Speaker 1: Perfect most water drown What is up, Dolphans, And welcome
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Speaker 1: and every day. How's it going, everybody? It is Friday.
Speaker 1: I am your host, Travis Wingfield, and I'm here to
Speaker 1: bring you your daily dose of Miami Dolphins football. And
Speaker 1: on today's show, we're gonna welcome in Channing Crowder, one
Speaker 1: of the all time great Drive Time and fish Tank
Speaker 1: podcast guests, one of the all time great post playing
Speaker 1: career media personalities there is in existence. Channing Crowder jumps
Speaker 1: in to talk about the two thousand and five season
Speaker 1: opening win over the Denver Broncos. Will also get Seth
Speaker 1: and o g on the podcast a little bit later
Speaker 1: to talk about what's next. On the Fish Tank, We'll
Speaker 1: get you the latest injury port for Dolphins and Broncos,
Speaker 1: and cover John Knjemmi's three key East to the Game.
Speaker 1: All of that and more on this Friday, November the
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Speaker 1: go ahead and jump into John Congemi's three keys to
Speaker 1: victory on this Sunday against Dever Broncos. Go through this
Speaker 1: thing real quick. First, he talks about continuing creating scoring opportunities.
Speaker 1: We talked about it on the podcast earlier. Context for
Speaker 1: short fields, getting hidden yardage, putting points on the board early,
Speaker 1: scoring fast, and putting the pressure on. Speaking of pressure,
Speaker 1: point number two, pressure the pocket that's been a key
Speaker 1: to this team and this defense every single week, getting sacks,
Speaker 1: putting pressure on the quarterback, creating takeaways. Guys like Emmanuel Ogbas,
Speaker 1: Shack Laws and Andrew Vanky GOLs, Zack Seeler and the
Speaker 1: entire crew. Number three, win third down, John right to
Speaker 1: the Dolphins are third in third down defense this season,
Speaker 1: but Denver's right behind them with the sixth best third
Speaker 1: down defense. Whichever team can win third down typically has
Speaker 1: a better chance to win the game. So the turnover
Speaker 1: is pressure on the quarterback, winning third down some of
Speaker 1: your keys to victory. Lets go ahead and get the
Speaker 1: Dolphins and Broncos injury report here for this week eleven
Speaker 1: matchup in Denver and first with the Miami Dolphins. Just
Speaker 1: two players questionable on the injury report, Kyle van Neu
Speaker 1: the linebacker and offensive guard Solomon Kinley are going to
Speaker 1: be questionable for the game on Sunday. Everybody else with
Speaker 1: no injury status for the Denver Broncos a whole heap
Speaker 1: of players on the questionable designation for this game that
Speaker 1: includes quarterback Drew Lock. James Palmer of NFL Network said
Speaker 1: that he's going to be questionable with that rib injury
Speaker 1: that he wants to play Saturday morning will play a
Speaker 1: factor if he can go. They want to see if
Speaker 1: he throws and feels it after throwing. Other players questionable
Speaker 1: for the Broncos, Graham Glasgow and Deshaun Willie were not
Speaker 1: on the injury report previously but have been added as
Speaker 1: questionable status for Sunday, and the same is true for
Speaker 1: cornerback Bryce Callahan. So some pretty big names on that
Speaker 1: list for the Broncos to check out the rest of
Speaker 1: the injury report. Go ahead and check out top news
Speaker 1: on Miami Dolphins dot com. We'll have that available for
Speaker 1: you guys on the website and writing Shotgun Now on
Speaker 1: the Drive Time podcast is former Dolphins linebacker currently the
Speaker 1: host of the Hawkman and Crowder Show. You can hear
Speaker 1: him on Dolphins pregame show on w q A. M
Speaker 1: Channing Crowder Channing, Welcome in, Man. We appreciate you every
Speaker 1: Travis Man, Bro. Not only it's it's been a minute, man.
Speaker 1: We lasted the podcast back in March, and that was
Speaker 1: I think it was like right before COVID became a
Speaker 1: part of our lives. And I haven't always spoke to
Speaker 1: you since, man, So like, catch me up. What's going
Speaker 1: on with you? Same stuff? Doing everything from home? Man,
Speaker 1: you know virtual school, so from home, everything from home.
Speaker 1: But you know it brings you closer to your family
Speaker 1: and your family and I know you're a family man,
Speaker 1: So get more time with the fam. And they're just
Speaker 1: getting through it, Bro. It's the new norm now, as
Speaker 1: they're called. That's exactly right. Like you said, there are
Speaker 1: always finding the silver linings, right. Spending more time with
Speaker 1: the family is definitely one upshot of of all this,
Speaker 1: I suppose, but another up shot right now is the
Speaker 1: Dolphins playing some damn good football, and you're very well
Speaker 1: innudated with the current sports landscape, especially down here in Miami,
Speaker 1: were business is kind of booming. Man Marlin's wipe out
Speaker 1: a playoff trout the Heat come within two games of
Speaker 1: an NBA championship. The Hurricanes are a top ten team.
Speaker 1: Not to mention your Florida Gators, Channing, and the Dolphins
Speaker 1: are writing a five game winning streak. If you can
Speaker 1: find it within yourself to pass up the talking point
Speaker 1: there about the Gators. What are you seeing from this
Speaker 1: Dolphins team right now? Channing, And it's it's amazing. They're
Speaker 1: They're a real team. You just seeing, you know, these
Speaker 1: last couple of games, Specimen two has gone in, Like
Speaker 1: the special teams make plays. The defense goes out and
Speaker 1: makes plays, and they're not putting it all on two
Speaker 1: in the offense. It's a it's a complete team. They're
Speaker 1: out there. You know, they're one of the top scoring
Speaker 1: defense in the league, and now with two of you know,
Speaker 1: they're rolling, putting thirty on the board. You a multiple times.
Speaker 1: So man, I'm I'm I'm excited. I've done some some
Speaker 1: shows and some interviews now nationally where people are interested
Speaker 1: in the Dolphins in l A, you know, in in
Speaker 1: d C, just around in New York, you know, around
Speaker 1: the nation. So it's where they should be. And man,
Speaker 1: it looks like Brian Flores was the guy he's bringing in.
Speaker 1: Those those those young guys, those young offens Lhomit are
Speaker 1: playing well. Young defenders are playing well, those lockdown corners
Speaker 1: are doing their thing on the outside. Becauxavier Howard playing
Speaker 1: out of his mind right now, travels this I think
Speaker 1: we saw around. Man, I think we're hitting the rec correction.
Speaker 1: It's hard to argue with the results right now. Plenty
Speaker 1: of plenty of games left to go, for sure, seven
Speaker 1: more to close this thing out. And yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: your excitement, I mean I can only reciprocate that so much, Channing.
Speaker 1: It's it's fun to turn on national TV shows and
Speaker 1: you know, I never put too much into, you know,
Speaker 1: what the talking heads say, but it is fun to
Speaker 1: see that Dolphins logo up on that screen for ten
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes of time as they do multiple segments on
Speaker 1: this Dolphins team. And that's that's kind of one of
Speaker 1: the talks of the league right now. But I want
Speaker 1: to go back to your first career your game. We're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about the two thousand five game at home
Speaker 1: against Denver Broncos on this Friday Flashback podcast. Dolphins linebacker
Speaker 1: Chain Crowded here first game of your career. The Dolphins
Speaker 1: are in Denver this Sunday at four oh five. But
Speaker 1: going back to that game in two thousand five, let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and start first by when you were drafted
Speaker 1: by the Dolphins, because that kind of gets us into this,
Speaker 1: you know, the season opener for your first career game.
Speaker 1: What was it like for you to know that I'm
Speaker 1: staying down in Florida after being with the Gators for
Speaker 1: for your entire college career, staying down in Miami being
Speaker 1: drafted by Nick Saban. What are your thoughts when you
Speaker 1: first got picked by the Dolphins. Well, on draft Day,
Speaker 1: I was kind of upset, not because I'm going to Miami,
Speaker 1: just because I went third round and I was the
Speaker 1: first round grade and all that stuff, you know, And
Speaker 1: uh so I was ready to get drafted about twelve
Speaker 1: thirty one and I didn't go to eight thirty at night.
Speaker 1: That's back when it was the first three rounds in
Speaker 1: the first day. So seven hours too late, a lot
Speaker 1: of beers in Whiskey in so when Nick Saban called me,
Speaker 1: I wasn't all of sound mind and body, if you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But then coming down, man and
Speaker 1: my draft class travels with Ronnie Brown and Matt Roth,
Speaker 1: and it's crazy John Denny, who just hung it up.
Speaker 1: You know, he was there with me. We had an
Speaker 1: awesome draft class. And coming in with Saving, you know,
Speaker 1: Saving was just you know, everybody knows the straight ends,
Speaker 1: you know kind of you know, ain't no type thing
Speaker 1: he he approached, you know, the way he approached the game.
Speaker 1: So I was excited to play in Miami outside to
Speaker 1: get drafted. And then when I got here, man to
Speaker 1: how Junior say out and Za Thomas took me under
Speaker 1: their wings and just really just talk to me about
Speaker 1: really how to play the game, the mental side from
Speaker 1: Zach aside from Junior, where Junior would always tell me,
Speaker 1: don't get over coach. Now you're here because of your ability,
Speaker 1: go go show off while you're here. So to have
Speaker 1: that Yang Yang in my in my room, to Hall
Speaker 1: of Famers in my linebacking room, man, I really, I
Speaker 1: really think it was the perfect situation to two rounds
Speaker 1: too late, but it was a perfect situation. Great guys,
Speaker 1: that's why I stayed in Miami. Great people down here.
Speaker 1: Still keep in touch with pretty much every name I
Speaker 1: just said. So it was a blessing. It was a
Speaker 1: blessing that I got arrested a bunch of time. So,
Speaker 1: you know, silver lining, like you said about COVID, I
Speaker 1: find a silver lining and going third round. That's exactly right.
Speaker 1: I think the last time I saw you in person
Speaker 1: was the Jets game last year, and we I asked
Speaker 1: you about the story when you got ejected from the
Speaker 1: game in two thousand and eight against the Patriots, and
Speaker 1: you kind of went into that and told me the
Speaker 1: silver linings behind that story as well. We won't go
Speaker 1: on the air with that story cheering, but but I
Speaker 1: am curious about you talk about that veteran leadership in
Speaker 1: that room, because I think it kind of is a
Speaker 1: good a good prelude back to the Dolphins current team
Speaker 1: right now with this good mix of Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: very young team, but you do have guys like you know,
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick and their for instance, the quarterback for the
Speaker 1: first six games or seven games or so, you've got
Speaker 1: Kyle Van noul. The defense kind of brings guys together,
Speaker 1: fulfills that role and has that that veteran leadership role
Speaker 1: you land in Robert serves as kind of a conduit
Speaker 1: for Brian Floores message to the players on the field.
Speaker 1: That two thousand five team you mentioned, Jason Taylor Jr.
Speaker 1: Say out yourself a rookie on that team, you still
Speaker 1: got Sam Madison out there. What was that blend? Like?
Speaker 1: How important is that blend for having those vet and
Speaker 1: guys that can kind of show the young guys the rope,
Speaker 1: but also still having that kind of young hungry blood
Speaker 1: coming in. It's it's perfect nothing. That's the that's design,
Speaker 1: especially defensively speaking from my perspective, is that you have
Speaker 1: those old guys and if you think about it, babies.
Speaker 1: Babies are emotional. You have a young one, anything happens,
Speaker 1: they start crying, and that doesn't change until you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like one to thirty five, you're still
Speaker 1: You're still emotional at twenty more than a guy like
Speaker 1: Zach Thomas and Jr. Say so, just knowing that the
Speaker 1: games is a long game. You give up a touchdown
Speaker 1: next play, bro, Let's move on. Let's move forward, and
Speaker 1: I made my you know, my favorite share of mistakes.
Speaker 1: Where as soon as I if I missed a tackle
Speaker 1: or something like that. You know, as a young guy,
Speaker 1: your first opportunity in front of you know, NFL crowd,
Speaker 1: NFL eyes, and you mess up where you know, kind
Speaker 1: of get down and you start, you know, get upset.
Speaker 1: Where Zach would always come up to me, good, bad
Speaker 1: or otherwise and be like, next place, you see, next play,
Speaker 1: next quarter, you know, let's get out. You know, it's
Speaker 1: just let's go. Let's do our job. So the young excitement,
Speaker 1: the jumping around and yelling at hooting the holler and
Speaker 1: shooting in you know, trying to kill full acts and
Speaker 1: I'm trying to knock people's helmets off. That's where the
Speaker 1: young guys break. The old guys bring the savvy and
Speaker 1: the intelligence and the X and O side of it.
Speaker 1: I talked to a lot of a lot about it
Speaker 1: exact where for about two years, Zach would tell me
Speaker 1: where the ball was going. He would flat out of
Speaker 1: the player would be going my way, my way, my way,
Speaker 1: coming in se see coming at you, where I wouldn't
Speaker 1: see what Zach saw. I can make the play, I
Speaker 1: can shoot any gap. I can hit any guard, but
Speaker 1: I didn't see it. It didn't slow down for me
Speaker 1: like it's slowed down for Zach. So that young energy
Speaker 1: combined with that veteran savvy, the ex and O side
Speaker 1: of the veterans, but also the calming effect of hey,
Speaker 1: home game, next play, next quarter, next series, Let's go
Speaker 1: out here and get a three and out. That's all
Speaker 1: we need to do is get three ounces together. And
Speaker 1: that's where I think the combination of an old veteran
Speaker 1: calm and the young energy really comes together. And to
Speaker 1: bring it back to this year is exactly what they had,
Speaker 1: you know, like the Wilkins and the and the davis
Speaker 1: Is and jump God Child. They're jumping around, dancing and
Speaker 1: you know, beating each other up where you have a
Speaker 1: NOI kind of hey, guys, take it. Even Jarome Baker
Speaker 1: Jarome Baka as an old soul drone kind of settles
Speaker 1: people down too. So you can you can see that
Speaker 1: dynamic on this current defense that is bowling right now.
Speaker 1: So I think that combination of you know, you can't
Speaker 1: you can't have an a r P team out there,
Speaker 1: but you also don't want to have a uh, you know,
Speaker 1: a middle school you gotta have that combination. And I
Speaker 1: think that's where good defense, that's how good defense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it seemed like that was a point of emphasis and
Speaker 1: free agency to go after guys that still had plenty
Speaker 1: of good ball ahead of them, right like Kyle van
Speaker 1: Noy and Emmanuel Ogba and Shack Laws and these guys
Speaker 1: in their mid to late twenties who still have plenty
Speaker 1: of good football in front of them, but they've also
Speaker 1: seen a lot of football previously. And you mentioned Zach
Speaker 1: Thomas in that veteran leadership. There's a great clip a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago after the Rams game, I believe
Speaker 1: it was where Ted Harris goes over to two on
Speaker 1: the sideline and to us, maybe not thrilled about his
Speaker 1: individual performance, but he's like, hey, rook, come on, man,
Speaker 1: it's a dub. But all the marriage of the dub
Speaker 1: right now and to it kind of got picked up.
Speaker 1: It lifted the spirit, you could, you could tell in
Speaker 1: that moment. And so you talked about Zach Thomas doing
Speaker 1: the same for you, and I want to spend this
Speaker 1: thing and jump a couple of questions ahead. Here are
Speaker 1: you in this game, in this Broncos game. It really
Speaker 1: got started at the end of the first half. The
Speaker 1: Dolphins kind of went took off after a four play
Speaker 1: goal line stand against the Broncos, and Zack had back
Speaker 1: to back plays where he shot in there and made
Speaker 1: plays in the backfield. Like was that when you guys
Speaker 1: saw him do that and kind of call those plays
Speaker 1: out and shoot those gaps and get those big plays.
Speaker 1: That has to energize the entire team, right, Oh my goodness, gracious,
Speaker 1: And he would you knew he was gonna do it.
Speaker 1: He knew those plays, like before they broke travels when
Speaker 1: they were in the huddle, Zach knew what gap was
Speaker 1: going in, which which which guard tackled, that they liked
Speaker 1: to run behind on short yardage where they're gonna motion
Speaker 1: the wing from Zack knew it already. So like I
Speaker 1: was saying, slowing everything down, how he slowed it down.
Speaker 1: But then when that ball snaps, like you said, it
Speaker 1: was not if he wasn't playing slow. He was thinking
Speaker 1: slow but playing fast. It was amazing. And to have
Speaker 1: have a better like that, and you know he was
Speaker 1: he was older than his career Zach what I think
Speaker 1: his last Pro bowls those six, So it was the
Speaker 1: ride around. You know, he was in his prime, but
Speaker 1: it was sneaking towards the end. And bro to have
Speaker 1: that old old guy to sit there and flat out
Speaker 1: call the play coming. Mom would come on my way,
Speaker 1: and then you see him disappear and he you know
Speaker 1: he ain't he a little fimble now, he ain't up
Speaker 1: by five tens or he would literally disappear into the line.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't see him, and he shoot out the other
Speaker 1: side and make a tackle. It was so amazing to watch,
Speaker 1: and especially on goal line because that's when the you know,
Speaker 1: big you you make a TfL on the fifty first
Speaker 1: and ten TfL second and eleven okay, good play. You
Speaker 1: make back to back stops on the gold line to
Speaker 1: take points off the board. That's why Zach was going
Speaker 1: to Pro Bowls. And I didn't go to many Pro
Speaker 1: bowl I didn't go to any Pro Bowl. Let's be honest.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of anybody, but it was. It did
Speaker 1: energize you to to see all of his studying and
Speaker 1: all of his hard work payoff year after year. And
Speaker 1: I said it before, I've told you before we talked.
Speaker 1: You know, a couple months ago, I would not have
Speaker 1: had this career I had, I would not have played
Speaker 1: as long as I had, made as many players, started
Speaker 1: as many games if it wasn't for Zach Thomas. Really
Speaker 1: really baby feet me football and I was All American
Speaker 1: in high school, all American college, and I got to
Speaker 1: the NFL, and Zach Thomas had the baby feeding me
Speaker 1: what football really is from the from the playmaking standpoints.
Speaker 1: So to have a vet making plays, taking points off
Speaker 1: the board, you saw it happened the rest of the game.
Speaker 1: We just it just like you said that that series
Speaker 1: really just you know, um, you know, shot us up.
Speaker 1: And then the offense, so the both sides of the
Speaker 1: ball where tour comes in now and you see the
Speaker 1: defense playing better energy from both sides of the ball,
Speaker 1: you can feed off of that. So then the offense
Speaker 1: goes and I think they scored twenty one points in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, like they just took off in the
Speaker 1: fourth and I think the defense they kind of fed off,
Speaker 1: fed us, fed off us, holding down who was it
Speaker 1: date Plumber and uh they were twelve and four team
Speaker 1: now I know Denver now isn't what they were. If
Speaker 1: you think about oh five, they were, they were a
Speaker 1: good team. The defense holding those guys down and just
Speaker 1: we kept pounding them, stopping them on fourth down, the
Speaker 1: offense started getting some momentum. And that's complimentary football. And
Speaker 1: I know it's a cliche, but it's true. Cliches are
Speaker 1: cliches because the usually true, right, So I mean, it
Speaker 1: definitely adds up. And you make a good point there
Speaker 1: about Denver being a twelve and four team that year.
Speaker 1: You guys would later go on to beat the Panthers
Speaker 1: two weeks later, who also played in their conference championship game.
Speaker 1: So to start the season, you're two and one with
Speaker 1: victories against the too, two of the final four teams
Speaker 1: that year. And I'm here, I've always been wondering how
Speaker 1: this works because like, you come into the league, you
Speaker 1: play at a college, and usually guys that get drafted
Speaker 1: highly typically play at blue blood programs where you are
Speaker 1: used to winning football games. And you come into the
Speaker 1: Dolphins and you mentioned fall into the third round, and
Speaker 1: you know, if your first round pick in the top ten,
Speaker 1: usually it means you're going to a pretty bad football
Speaker 1: team for the most part. And this Dolphin team was
Speaker 1: four and twelve of the year prior Ricky Williams had retired.
Speaker 1: They you know they bring in Nick Saban. I'm curious
Speaker 1: what your expectations were coming into your first season with
Speaker 1: a new team that was off of four and twelve
Speaker 1: season and didn't really change after that first game, I mean,
Speaker 1: thirty four ten over a team that had high expectations.
Speaker 1: Did that change things for you? Guys? Um, it really did,
Speaker 1: and we'll saving saving brainwashing. And he was such so
Speaker 1: nastily good at his job, just nasty, talked to your
Speaker 1: nasty and all. Everybody's heard the stories, but he was
Speaker 1: good at his job. So he would prepare you, you know,
Speaker 1: to get ready for a game. But talking about like
Speaker 1: the narrative amongst the team were a narrative that that
Speaker 1: I picked up was if you remember back then after Marino,
Speaker 1: it was always good defense, bad offense, good defense. The
Speaker 1: Ricky the run Ricky run thing was the thing because
Speaker 1: of the fact that it's the only offense we've really
Speaker 1: seen effective for years now. So it come in and
Speaker 1: like I said, man Vanni Holiday, Keith Trader, Kevin Carter,
Speaker 1: Sam Madison, Pat Surtan just got traded to the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: I believe Junior Zack Jason, like to Bucky Jones, he
Speaker 1: was a monster at safety at the time, like you
Speaker 1: walked in and the narrative, you know, spoken and unspoken,
Speaker 1: was bro we got a good defense. If the offense
Speaker 1: can I often can put points on the board, we're
Speaker 1: gonna win some games. And we we took pride in
Speaker 1: that that and so so it's kind of you don't
Speaker 1: want to say it was to two different teams. You know,
Speaker 1: it was a defense first, the offense kind of thing.
Speaker 1: But it was where defensively we would We knew that
Speaker 1: we were very good, we could play. The scheme was good.
Speaker 1: Nick Saban knew what he was doing. So let's give
Speaker 1: this offense as many chances as we can give them
Speaker 1: to score points because we are the stronger side of
Speaker 1: the ball. We would whoop their asks during every period
Speaker 1: of practice, traffics. We would they would start selling people
Speaker 1: out because they couldn't get a playoff. With the pro
Speaker 1: bowlers all up front, junior and Zach coming junior and
Speaker 1: Jason coming off there, just the offense couldn't do anything.
Speaker 1: So they would start putting the twos in so that
Speaker 1: they can get a little confidence in their offense. So
Speaker 1: we knew we were the better side of the ball
Speaker 1: and didn't didn't you know. It was no animosity, It
Speaker 1: was pride in it, where if they're gonna score, if
Speaker 1: they can't score for seventeen guys, we gotta hold the
Speaker 1: other team the six team. And that was kind of
Speaker 1: the approach of our defense, which was a very good
Speaker 1: defense that seam well. Yeah, and you guys probably prepared
Speaker 1: them well for that opening day game because, like you mentioned,
Speaker 1: thirt or four points against the Denver defense that had
Speaker 1: Al Wilson, had Champ Bailey back there as well, and
Speaker 1: had guys that could make plays on the football, and
Speaker 1: you mentioned the offense kind of going off in the
Speaker 1: second half. We were gonna have Marty Booker on this
Speaker 1: podcast back when the game was in Week six or
Speaker 1: whatever it was. We had to reschedule because of again
Speaker 1: COVID changes things, and I had a question for him.
Speaker 1: He had a sixty yard touchdown reception where he got
Speaker 1: on top of a cornerback. And now, Jenny, you can
Speaker 1: correct me my wrong here, but book wasn't the fastest
Speaker 1: guy on the planet, but on that play he looked
Speaker 1: like it was that just that Miami September heat gas
Speaker 1: in that Denver defense. Man. Yes, I remember very vividly
Speaker 1: the the the Miami heir would cover and it said
Speaker 1: the twelveth man, and on their sideline it was a
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty degrees. And I remember in that second
Speaker 1: half champ Bailey between snaps, champ Bailey, as soon as
Speaker 1: the rif blew the whistle, he would take his hammer
Speaker 1: off and taking knee. He didn't even get in the huddle.
Speaker 1: He was just trying to get as much of this
Speaker 1: six South Florida airing as lungs as he could. I
Speaker 1: was a good friend with Gerard Warren. He went to Florida.
Speaker 1: We're you know, he'd come back at Florida and he
Speaker 1: was there deeper than tackle. I remember Gerard Warren looking
Speaker 1: at me, you know, walking out, walking out a halftime
Speaker 1: and just shaking his head with the red eyes because
Speaker 1: then I used to that much sweat pouring in their
Speaker 1: eyes coming from beautiful Denver, you know, Mayo High and
Speaker 1: join their camp and then you come down here to
Speaker 1: a hundred and twenty degrees. So yes, I think I
Speaker 1: think that the twelve man. Why you schedule games at
Speaker 1: one o'clock when you're a Miami Dolphin, you know, administrator, coach,
Speaker 1: you want you want some early season one o'clock games,
Speaker 1: because I was in Gamesville. Games was one three hours north.
Speaker 1: It's it gets hot as helling Gamesville. It doesn't get
Speaker 1: hot and human like it does down to you. It's
Speaker 1: just something else. And then there's no winds there that
Speaker 1: that heat. The stink if you breathe out in your
Speaker 1: breast thinks it just stays in your face mask. There's
Speaker 1: no wind blowing, Travis. There's nothing moving, and it just
Speaker 1: you saw him slowly breaking down, breaking down. So Marty's
Speaker 1: let's be honest it right. Book Book ain't fast. Book
Speaker 1: wasn't fast. He's not fast. Now his kids probably aren't fast.
Speaker 1: Book ran about a four six or seven. Those dvs
Speaker 1: ran four fours in the fourth quarter Books four seven,
Speaker 1: it looked like a four four. That's that Son made
Speaker 1: those dbs four four look like four seven. You could see.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't just that game, Travis. I've seen it.
Speaker 1: I saw the number of times where you just saw
Speaker 1: guy's body slowly breaking down in that in that trumple
Speaker 1: digit hundred plus degree weather playing early in South Florid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you mentioned the twelfth Man that the Miami held cover.
Speaker 1: We we had Bart Scott on the Fish Tank podcast recently, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, they're talking about getting you back on
Speaker 1: is that gonna happen? They called me man like you
Speaker 1: man y'all, y'all asked me all the time. Y'all got
Speaker 1: my numble baby. We need part three because that still
Speaker 1: is the best episode of all time. Brandon Marshall was
Speaker 1: really good. Bart Scott was really good. Chance Crowder still
Speaker 1: number one in your in your programming in your heart
Speaker 1: store on the on the Fish Tank podcast, but they
Speaker 1: had Bart Scott on who talked about a different twealth man.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and just call it South Florida lifestyle
Speaker 1: if you if you catch my draft, he said that
Speaker 1: was a big part of it. But another unique part
Speaker 1: about playing in Miami back in September in those days
Speaker 1: was the infield dirt. You had to have hated that, right,
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. It was terrible. You see guys tripping,
Speaker 1: You see guys you just the falling down on it,
Speaker 1: you scrape yourself up. But I was you know, those
Speaker 1: pretty dude, those cute guys, you know, like a Chambers
Speaker 1: and Ronnie Brown, they're worried about little scrapes. I didn't
Speaker 1: give it them about scrapes. It was more the transition
Speaker 1: from running on grass to dirt. So you turn to
Speaker 1: go cover receiver and you're digging in the ground and
Speaker 1: you're you're, you know, you're digging, and then you get
Speaker 1: to that clay, you can't dig anymore. So it's almost
Speaker 1: like you have to change your gait when you transition
Speaker 1: from the grass to dirt. And this midplay, this is
Speaker 1: you know, between plays, And that's what I hated most
Speaker 1: about it because I remember a number of times where
Speaker 1: you would see guys not fall down but just trip
Speaker 1: up or slow down or have to gather themselves on
Speaker 1: that dirt. And in the NFL, and those inches to
Speaker 1: gather yourself could be a touchdown and not a touchdown.
Speaker 1: So that was my biggest thing. I know a lot
Speaker 1: of guys hate to get tackled on it because you
Speaker 1: get them them big straw baries. I remember, you know,
Speaker 1: me and Ronnie are real close and we hang out
Speaker 1: pretty much every day. I remember Ronnie just having I'm
Speaker 1: talking about nine ten ins long, just scrapes down his forearms,
Speaker 1: down his biceps from getting tackled on that dirt. And
Speaker 1: I know, I know offensive players hated it because of that,
Speaker 1: but everybody out there. They would talk about the footings.
Speaker 1: They ended up getting the Marblings their own little stadium
Speaker 1: and we we had real grass, but it was it was,
Speaker 1: It wasn't fun playing that. The Raiders had it too,
Speaker 1: So I just remember to two teams we were. We
Speaker 1: had it and the Raiders had it. And I just
Speaker 1: remember hating to go on what would that be the
Speaker 1: west side of Dolphin Stadium over there and playing on
Speaker 1: that side of the field because you know, sooner or
Speaker 1: later you would have to transition and you were gonna stumble,
Speaker 1: and that could be And on TV, Travis and and
Speaker 1: and you you're watching the game, you're not saying, oh, no,
Speaker 1: give crowd a break because he stumbled on the dirt.
Speaker 1: You're saying it wasn't an excuse, it was just a problem. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: no excuses for the fans. I don't want to hear
Speaker 1: that stuff. But you know, I as kids, we all
Speaker 1: went out and play in the street and played football
Speaker 1: on the street, and you know you might fall and
Speaker 1: get a scrape. But I can't imagine playing an NFL
Speaker 1: football game with grown ass man on basically what amounts
Speaker 1: to the pavement in front of your house so it's
Speaker 1: just that's another whole Southern subset of Dolphins football on
Speaker 1: those days. Man, it was one last play in that
Speaker 1: game I want to bring up to you was the
Speaker 1: strip sack and fumbled by j T where he scooped
Speaker 1: it and scored it. Did the jump man the whole thing? Like,
Speaker 1: I remember that play for two reasons. One the jump man,
Speaker 1: which you know obviously has Michael Jordan's infatuation and that
Speaker 1: kind of bled over into the celebrations and he had
Speaker 1: the shoes and everything. But also, like, did he regret
Speaker 1: that afterwards because the game was over? It was he
Speaker 1: picks up a fumble? Was he Like? Man, the touchdown
Speaker 1: is nice, But I couldn't saved my breath on that one. No,
Speaker 1: because I believe he has the most touchdowns for a
Speaker 1: defensive lineman in NFL history, So that might have been
Speaker 1: the one to put him over the head. I know
Speaker 1: we had one of the vikings. I know, you know
Speaker 1: throughout his career, but playing with Jake, I'm playing with
Speaker 1: JT was crazy because you knew sooner or later he
Speaker 1: was not gonna make a play. He was gonna make
Speaker 1: a gigantic play, and even at the end of that
Speaker 1: game where it's okay, we're winning, ya, let's you know
Speaker 1: they're trying to come back. Is gonna jat like, that's
Speaker 1: what he does. He was a big play. That's why
Speaker 1: the first ballot Hall of Famer, that's why he's he
Speaker 1: is what he is. So I know he doesn't regret
Speaker 1: it because the I could book show it and and
Speaker 1: his numbers are amazing. But that's just the thing where
Speaker 1: you're winning, keep playing ball. And that's going back to
Speaker 1: kind of what the vestis to tell you, bro, I
Speaker 1: don't give a damn what happened the first hundred plays.
Speaker 1: This is a hundred and first play play this play
Speaker 1: like it's the last one and the next one and
Speaker 1: the next one. And that's what J two was doing.
Speaker 1: They were should have blocked him if they didn't want
Speaker 1: him to stack Forrest Famer from recovery touchdown. And that's
Speaker 1: the whole that's the whole Father football. Next play up,
Speaker 1: that tackle was probably a little tired from that hundred
Speaker 1: twenty degrees and there's no chance he couldn't block J
Speaker 1: T if he was healthy, if he was rested. Now
Speaker 1: he's tired, fourth quarter, stinking that that heats on him.
Speaker 1: There's no way in the hell he's gonna block JT now.
Speaker 1: And JT players like JT jors that they were. They
Speaker 1: could smell blood in the water. They were like sharks.
Speaker 1: When you started getting tired, when you when you couldn't,
Speaker 1: when when you were getting exhausted, that's when I'm gonna
Speaker 1: play my best because now I know I can beat you.
Speaker 1: And that's what JT did a number of times that year.
Speaker 1: In the following year, that was the differen playing the
Speaker 1: year year old six. But j T made plays like that.
Speaker 1: We getting week out practices, ruining practices because the offense
Speaker 1: couldn't get the ball off. That was what you are
Speaker 1: when you're Hall of Famer. That that's that's the time
Speaker 1: plays you make. You play sixteen minutes every game, right,
Speaker 1: That's what the great ones do. They finished the game,
Speaker 1: start to finish. And and speaking of finishing, you guys
Speaker 1: finished out that season, you know, with six consecutive wins,
Speaker 1: and I mentioned off the top, the Dolphins have a
Speaker 1: chance to get their sixth straight win on Sunday in Denver.
Speaker 1: The last three six game winning streaks are twenty six
Speaker 1: team two thousand eight, the Wildcat year and two thousand five,
Speaker 1: your rookie season. For the following season, I think Sports
Speaker 1: Illustrated had Miami as their Super Bowl pick that season.
Speaker 1: Leaving that season, the exit meetings, the you know, the
Speaker 1: after the sixteenth game. I remember coming in for the
Speaker 1: exit team meeting, and that was the talk. They felt,
Speaker 1: we're rolling now, like we're a team they don't want
Speaker 1: to we were. We were saying like they wouldn't want
Speaker 1: nobody would want to play us in the playoffs if
Speaker 1: we if we even't want an extra game here and
Speaker 1: there with ten and six, like nobody we want to
Speaker 1: play us right now, we're we're bawling out. I remember
Speaker 1: the covered via um Sports Illustrated, the Dolphins Super Bowl
Speaker 1: contenders and all that stuff. So the energy was the
Speaker 1: energy was crazy all offseason. Offseason workouts were you know,
Speaker 1: I think and Saban was big into it and a
Speaker 1: lot of the centers for workouts, but a lot of
Speaker 1: guys would say nine percent. Guys had a hundred percent
Speaker 1: of attendance at those officers work us like this is
Speaker 1: the year we're gonna do something. And Dante cold Pepper
Speaker 1: looked good but didn't play good. He wasn't good and
Speaker 1: we know that the rest is history. But you talk
Speaker 1: about preseason that year, through camp, we we have a
Speaker 1: chance to get a ring, and that's how we prepared.
Speaker 1: And then we had to go play other people travelers,
Speaker 1: and then it didn't work out the way it was
Speaker 1: supposed to. But the energy wasn't there. The excitement was
Speaker 1: there throughout the entire preseason of that OH six season,
Speaker 1: which you would well, you know as a fan, it's
Speaker 1: almost it's almost just as good to have the off
Speaker 1: season like hype and build up because that sticks with
Speaker 1: you for eight months and you have that excitement. I
Speaker 1: remember that was my senior year of high school two
Speaker 1: thousand and five and I graduated in OH six, so
Speaker 1: that that whole year, I was just telling everybody that
Speaker 1: I could watch for these dolphins, man, watch out for
Speaker 1: these dolphins. And it didn't work out. It didn't work
Speaker 1: out for a lot of years. Means had that every
Speaker 1: single year, but hopefully things are kind of turning around. Now.
Speaker 1: Before I let you out of here, Channing, I want
Speaker 1: to ask you about your your recent project and you
Speaker 1: do it with Brandon Marshall and Chad Johnson Slash Sinko
Speaker 1: as well. I am athlete, man, what a hell of
Speaker 1: a show that is. Can you tell us about that
Speaker 1: a little bit? It's cool. Man Brandon had this idea
Speaker 1: and he just knows so many people know. Brandon has
Speaker 1: the House of Athletes. He trains you know, kids to
Speaker 1: you know, families, to NFL guys, you know, pre draft stuff.
Speaker 1: But it's called House of Athlete and they're opening another
Speaker 1: two locations. There's one out in Weston now, and um,
Speaker 1: he said, yeah, I want to do a show. He's like,
Speaker 1: there's all these podcasts out there, you know, the all
Speaker 1: the Smoke stuff with with Stephen Jackson and Matt Barnes,
Speaker 1: and like we we enjoyed watching that and Brandon. Man,
Speaker 1: Brandon is kind of like he's crazy smart. Like you
Speaker 1: remember he was crazy kicking balls and fighting people and
Speaker 1: slapping folks. But there's like a switch he turns on
Speaker 1: where he could come. He's like super intelligent. And he
Speaker 1: was like, hey man, we have all I know, all
Speaker 1: these personalities, you know, let's come together. Let's you know,
Speaker 1: get something. I'll get the film crew and we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens. And now we're on a second season. Think
Speaker 1: for what episode twelve we're gonna shoot next week and
Speaker 1: it and it's gaining legs. We have a hundreds of
Speaker 1: hundred thousand subscribers on YouTube. And it was really Brandon saying, Hey,
Speaker 1: we sit around in the gym and talk trash all
Speaker 1: the time. We're sitting in the gym and talk trash,
Speaker 1: and after it closes, you know, we break wine, bringing
Speaker 1: some whiskey, hang out. He was like, Hey, let's just
Speaker 1: let's just shoot this. Let's just catch this on camera
Speaker 1: and see what happens. And now the production is getting better,
Speaker 1: the topics are getting good. We're getting some guests too.
Speaker 1: Real Owens came on with us last week. He's coming
Speaker 1: on actually with us again next week. So it was
Speaker 1: just a Brandon martial idea that kind of that kind
Speaker 1: of hit and and and started started getting some legs. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: the key to any great show, in my opinion, is
Speaker 1: is it something different that no one else is doing.
Speaker 1: And you guys to me are doing that. So I
Speaker 1: really enjoyed Channing, really enjoy Yan Hawkman and Crowder. Of
Speaker 1: course the Dolphins pregame show. He finished his career with
Speaker 1: four hundred seventy tackles, Channing, three forced fumbles, a pick
Speaker 1: a tackles for lost Channing Crowder. Always a pleasure, my friend,
Speaker 1: and thank you so much that y'all stop holding out
Speaker 1: on me. Man, y'all know I'm down here. All I
Speaker 1: do is put kids in virginal school and go fishing.
Speaker 1: So I got you any time. Trap. Hey, Hey, you
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna you know I'm gonna hit you up.
Speaker 1: It took me a few texts to get you on now,
Speaker 1: so I I expect a little bit of both ways here. Man,
Speaker 1: I got you, brother, stay stay. I think you're four
Speaker 1: d seventy tackles. My rabbed me a little bit, but
Speaker 1: I'm rolled. There we go. I'll tell I'll tell O
Speaker 1: J about that. I'm just gonna jump on after you
Speaker 1: here and talk about this game a little bit too.
Speaker 1: He he has the same exact thing. He calls a
Speaker 1: football brain, so perfect perfect In the podcast, Channing Crowd
Speaker 1: thinks again, Man, thank you, So there he goes Dolphins
Speaker 1: linebacker Channing Crowd are always a fun interview. And speaking
Speaker 1: of fun interviews, time for my favorite part of the week.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and welcome and Seth and O J
Speaker 1: from the Fish Tank Podcast, and as always on Friday,
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined by the guys from the
Speaker 1: Fish Tank podcast. I've got Seth Levitt o j McDuffie,
Speaker 1: what's going on, fellas to be here, man, You know
Speaker 1: Juice's crossover games a little better than mine, but still
Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited to be here in D time. I've
Speaker 1: always had better handles, Seth, you know, always had hands, man,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, better handles, better jump shot,
Speaker 1: a better defender, just better. Well, there's a recent sess
Speaker 1: out there on the on the floor for those those
Speaker 1: competitive games back in the nineties and then early two thousands, right,
Speaker 1: it's players is a players only at the rule back then?
Speaker 1: I really, man, I mean, it depends on who wanted
Speaker 1: to get involved. And I try to make it a
Speaker 1: you know, staff friendly day times too, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? But what just only players? You know? But
Speaker 1: sometimes staff didn't want to play, right step man, when
Speaker 1: the players are out there playing as hard as they were.
Speaker 1: Seth played with both sides, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But yeah, for the most part, man, one day might
Speaker 1: have been all players, another day might have been a
Speaker 1: couple of players and guys from the staff. But one
Speaker 1: day at Wednesday was a rough play. Wednesdays were rough,
Speaker 1: but see. My secret, Travis is if you're the first
Speaker 1: guy there, get on. You may only get one in,
Speaker 1: but at least you're gonna get on because I wasn't
Speaker 1: getting picked up other one. Yeah. But then you get
Speaker 1: O J with like game point in the ball in
Speaker 1: his hand, and he's not gonna be denied. I'm just like,
Speaker 1: go ahead, man, I'm not I'm not getting in front
Speaker 1: of you for that, so I guess. But if you're
Speaker 1: on his team, and as long as I have my
Speaker 1: all my teeth still in my face, I'm good with it.
Speaker 1: So we're talking about the two thousand five Broncos and
Speaker 1: Dolphins game today on Flashback Friday, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: this was a game that I talked to you guys
Speaker 1: all the time about my golden era, my favorite era
Speaker 1: of Dolphins football, and I really love this game for
Speaker 1: a multitude of reasons. It's just the Dolphins I think
Speaker 1: going into that year didn't have high expectations coming off
Speaker 1: the four and twelve season, even with Nick Saban arriving,
Speaker 1: But to go out there and put it on a
Speaker 1: team that would eventually wind up in the a f
Speaker 1: C Championship Game thirty four or ten with a blowout victory.
Speaker 1: And you know, Seth, you were talking about it off
Speaker 1: air a little bit, the receiving corps and some of
Speaker 1: the talent that team had, and obviously what the defense
Speaker 1: became with Nick Saban and Ason Taylor and Zach Thomas
Speaker 1: and uh, Sam Madison was still there. And you told
Speaker 1: me a little bit as well that although j T
Speaker 1: and Saban had a great relationship, it didn't necessarily start
Speaker 1: off that way. It didn't. I mean, actually, you could
Speaker 1: go back to the end of OU four when Jim
Speaker 1: Bates was the interim head coach, and I remember an
Speaker 1: interview when coach Saban had been selected. The Dolphins had
Speaker 1: agreed to terms of coach Saban, but the Dolphins were
Speaker 1: still finishing out their season, and they asked Jason Taylor, Hey,
Speaker 1: what do you think about Nick the hiring of Nick Saban?
Speaker 1: He said, I don't give a damn about Nick Saban.
Speaker 1: Jim Bates is my head coach. You know, Jat is
Speaker 1: very loyal that way, at least he was up to
Speaker 1: that point. And uh and and so you know that happened,
Speaker 1: and then Saban had talked about, you know, changing the
Speaker 1: way that that Jason would fit into the defense and
Speaker 1: in that hybrid position, and said that, you know, if
Speaker 1: he had played linebacker his whole career, he could be
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame, which I think is kind
Speaker 1: of funny. And and and so Gary was starred Jason's agents.
Speaker 1: So wait a minute, this guy was pretty good with
Speaker 1: his hand in the dirt for the first however, in
Speaker 1: the is his career? What's going on here? And so
Speaker 1: there was there was contentious in the off season, but
Speaker 1: then two guys met, and you know, the love was
Speaker 1: fair ensued, and so did a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of plays, as j T continued to do for his
Speaker 1: entire career. And j T just like many guys who
Speaker 1: played Juice right, So many of those guys came in
Speaker 1: the tank and and just talked about how how much
Speaker 1: they learned about football, even at that stage of the career,
Speaker 1: how much they learned about football playing under Nick Saban.
Speaker 1: So you know, I gotta I gotta give credit where
Speaker 1: credit is due. But this was the first game we
Speaker 1: were going to see how how's this marriage gonna work.
Speaker 1: The defensive guys chat, let's get that right here. Love
Speaker 1: affair for Nick? You know what I mean? I don't
Speaker 1: think the same I don't think AMers been too Righty said,
Speaker 1: he in powered him as a leader. So you know,
Speaker 1: I have to I hate to do it. I hate
Speaker 1: to do it, but I have to give the effect credit.
Speaker 1: There was a there was a great sketch. It was
Speaker 1: Frank Caliendo when he was doing his weekly Fox bit
Speaker 1: every you know on Sunday, the Sunday pregame show and
Speaker 1: after the Dolf has won that game he had won
Speaker 1: the following week where he made fun of Nick Saban
Speaker 1: and he did it through through Jim Rome and it
Speaker 1: was I have watched that a million times in my life.
Speaker 1: It's it's a really good one. But you talk about
Speaker 1: Jason Taylor. That was his first game with Nick Saban.
Speaker 1: This was the first game in the career of Channing Crowder,
Speaker 1: who did the podcast right before you guys jumped on
Speaker 1: and as always he was great. I mean, you can't
Speaker 1: have a Channing Crowder episode not have it be great.
Speaker 1: But I'm curious, O, j is this guy? Is he
Speaker 1: number one in the all time Fish Tank power rakings
Speaker 1: because we had two episodes you couldn't shut him up obviously,
Speaker 1: two episodes of of just Pure Gold from Channing. Is
Speaker 1: he is he top of the list. There's he's ranking
Speaker 1: really high. He really is. Man. We've got a couple
Speaker 1: of will coming up, and one that we already had
Speaker 1: is this climbing on him. But Channing by far. You know.
Speaker 1: For one, he's been in there multiple times in the
Speaker 1: tank and that's hard to do first. And two we're
Speaker 1: thinking about bringing in the third time. So that tells
Speaker 1: you how we feel about Channing and what he can do.
Speaker 1: You knowing the tanks, he's up there. When it comes
Speaker 1: to in the food chain, Channing is probably the top
Speaker 1: right now. I told him, uh, he said at the
Speaker 1: end of the podcast. You know, you guys hit me
Speaker 1: up whenever. I can do whatever podcast you want. And
Speaker 1: I said, now, Channing, I've hit you out before and
Speaker 1: you haven't got back to me. And he was like,
Speaker 1: all right, that's fair, that's fair. You gotta say on me.
Speaker 1: He mentioned the football brand like you had mentioned OJ
Speaker 1: so good company all around in this game. Another really
Speaker 1: memorable point of this game. I'll go back to you
Speaker 1: for this one. Seth. Jason Taylor ends this thing, puts
Speaker 1: puts it on ice and I asked a dumb ask question, man,
Speaker 1: I asked the Channing did Jason regret picking that fumble
Speaker 1: up and running it back? Because remember when he when
Speaker 1: he fell into the end zone after the jump man,
Speaker 1: he was completely gassed. He couldn't like it looked like
Speaker 1: he was just my body is spent for the day.
Speaker 1: I need to go sit in a cold toub for
Speaker 1: about fourteen hours. And I asked Channing, did he regret that?
Speaker 1: But obviously he said no, because you know he's got
Speaker 1: a record in that department. What do you recall about
Speaker 1: that scoop and score eighty five yards? Seth? Yeah, you know, look,
Speaker 1: it's something we saw j T do his entire career. UM.
Speaker 1: Just for context, you know, I worked here from to
Speaker 1: the OH three or um through OH three into the
Speaker 1: OH four off season, miss the old four season thankfully,
Speaker 1: and then in O five I was still working in
Speaker 1: the press box and at that point working for Jason
Speaker 1: and uh, you know running the foundation. UM. So I
Speaker 1: was there at that game, seen so many times Jason
Speaker 1: do that. We saw it first right with the Chilly
Speaker 1: Smith the Cincinnati game, and you know he loves the trifecta,
Speaker 1: but that was you know, the game was pretty well
Speaker 1: in hand. But you talk to any defensive end and
Speaker 1: they love having a big lead in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: That's when those guys like to eat. I reamber j
Speaker 1: T would stand on the sideline to get mad if
Speaker 1: our offensive line weren't still playing hard at the end
Speaker 1: of games that we were getting blown out in because
Speaker 1: other guys were getting set, you know, And so he
Speaker 1: was competited that way. So they're looking for that time
Speaker 1: to just just end their ears back, turned the town
Speaker 1: the corner and go and uh. But it was it
Speaker 1: was a hot game, as they always are those opening
Speaker 1: games here, and Juice knows that better than I do
Speaker 1: because I sat at the press box from the air conditioning.
Speaker 1: But it was hot down on that field and those
Speaker 1: hasn't played almost seventy plays, and but you know, the
Speaker 1: eyes get big and and eighty five yards is a
Speaker 1: long way to run for those guys. But he did it.
Speaker 1: And I just remember, you know, Sam was looked like
Speaker 1: he was trying to give him CPR there in the
Speaker 1: end zone, trying to bring him back, and the whole
Speaker 1: team piled on him. And she was again you would
Speaker 1: know this better than I. But as much as they're
Speaker 1: celebrating you, it doesn't become harder to grieve. When you've
Speaker 1: got another ten guys laying on top of you, that's
Speaker 1: the worst position. That's the worst ever, the bottom, the
Speaker 1: last guys. The best position, the guy that poles him
Speaker 1: at the end, you know he's got the best position
Speaker 1: doesn't look as good. But at the bottom of any pope,
Speaker 1: you know, with a bunch of brown ass man, that's
Speaker 1: not good. Especially Yeah, absolutely, But you know the other thing, Travis, though,
Speaker 1: is the pr guy. And me knew that j T
Speaker 1: at that point had four fumble return career fumble returns
Speaker 1: for touchdowns and the NFL record at that time was,
Speaker 1: uh was it was this? No, he had five and
Speaker 1: was this the six? But he, I believe he I
Speaker 1: just be toled with this one. And that's not just
Speaker 1: for defensive lineman, that was any player in any position.
Speaker 1: He went on to have another one and holds the
Speaker 1: NFL record now. But so those are the things that
Speaker 1: I would keep tracking, counting sacks, which quarterback did he get?
Speaker 1: What NFL records didn't time as he's starting to set um.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, just all the way around. It
Speaker 1: was the exclamation point at the end of that game.
Speaker 1: And it was a lot of fun, particularly being my
Speaker 1: games our best offense back here, So I was gonna
Speaker 1: say he wound up with one of the following year
Speaker 1: in two thousand and six against the Chicago Bears, another
Speaker 1: one of my all time favorite games. They were they
Speaker 1: were won and six going into that game and wound
Speaker 1: up just putting it on the Bears too much to
Speaker 1: everyone's surprise once again to knock the Bears off the
Speaker 1: undefeated perch. So that was you know, two times and
Speaker 1: two decades they did that against the Chicago Bears. But Seth,
Speaker 1: you mentioned another another point about this game, and here's
Speaker 1: my kind of story for you guys again every week
Speaker 1: we do this. My senior year of high school was sure,
Speaker 1: bring bring it on. Let's just let's get it out
Speaker 1: of the way. Two five my senior year, and I
Speaker 1: was one of those kids that like to sleep until
Speaker 1: very very late on the weekends. I think most kids
Speaker 1: probably did. But I had one of those, like those
Speaker 1: original alarm clocks that you had to set. It was
Speaker 1: before your iPhone, and I always had to put an
Speaker 1: alarm on for ten am games on the West Coast
Speaker 1: for the Dolphins because I would miss it if I
Speaker 1: if I slept past the alarm clock and my alarm
Speaker 1: didn't go off, and I woke up in a full
Speaker 1: fledged panic because and I'm still this way. If I
Speaker 1: miss a Dolphins snap, I I feel incomplete. I don't
Speaker 1: like it. It bothers me. And so back then I
Speaker 1: woke up. It was like ten twenty five or something,
Speaker 1: and I was freaking out, and I turned the TV
Speaker 1: on and Chris Chambers is falling into the end zone
Speaker 1: on that reverse and I'm I'm like half asleep, like yeah, cheering,
Speaker 1: And then they panned the sideline that referee is saying, no, no,
Speaker 1: he stepped out of bounds and you said you gave
Speaker 1: him some crap for that, Well, no, he should be choose.
Speaker 1: How does he step out of bounds on that that
Speaker 1: should have been a touchdown? And nobody told the sidelines
Speaker 1: better than right, does that happen? I'm asking knew that.
Speaker 1: She was like, how do you know? What are you feeling?
Speaker 1: Because there's a lot you gotta you know, obviously you
Speaker 1: don't want to get hit by guys as as a
Speaker 1: player who's running some back into and scored plenty of times.
Speaker 1: How how do you feel the boundaries over there? And
Speaker 1: what the hell happened with Chris Why didn't you know
Speaker 1: even stepping on the grounds. Yeah, I don't know, man.
Speaker 1: It's guys, and you're, like you said, it's not like Chris.
Speaker 1: You know, Chris is the best when it comes to
Speaker 1: sideline work, end zone you know, back at the end
Speaker 1: zone work. You know, it's it's his footwork is flawless, man.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was just a little full pop by him.
Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't usually happens to guys like that.
Speaker 1: We see some other guys get out because they're free
Speaker 1: to contact, but Chris is usually uh yeah, for sure,
Speaker 1: for sure. The thing I always love about Chris from
Speaker 1: my personal perspective was he filled a void in my
Speaker 1: fandom heart when Ricky retired, because I told you guys
Speaker 1: just before, I was so heartbroken by Ricky Williams retiring
Speaker 1: and then Chris that next season in two thousand and five,
Speaker 1: I remember the sate line in the back of my head.
Speaker 1: I always remember eighty two catches, one thousand, eighteen yards
Speaker 1: and eleven touchdowns and that was big time production, you know,
Speaker 1: for it was his biggest year of his career, big
Speaker 1: time production for Dolphins receivers at that point, because that
Speaker 1: we hadn't had a big year like that and in
Speaker 1: a wild price since you o, j and um, so
Speaker 1: he really feels traded. Chris right after that, so we
Speaker 1: got rid of Yeah exactly. I did not take that
Speaker 1: very well either. I won't. I won't tell you my
Speaker 1: reaction to that. It's a little embarrassing. So let's go
Speaker 1: a little bit further back here. And this is a
Speaker 1: tough tone changer, guys. But um, last night, on on Thursday,
Speaker 1: we had we said goodbye to a Dolphins legend. Jake
Speaker 1: Scott passed away, um you know, on on Thursday night,
Speaker 1: and so I just wanted to kind of check out
Speaker 1: with you guys here and maybe get some perspective on
Speaker 1: on what Jake Scott meant to the Dolphins organization. Seth
Speaker 1: as a guy that was a long time safety. We
Speaker 1: saw Eric Rowe rock the no name cleats on Sunday
Speaker 1: with Jake Scott and Dick Anderson thought that was really
Speaker 1: really cool. And then you know, now we have this
Speaker 1: news about Jake Scott. But just for the for the
Speaker 1: younger fans that were in diapers for the two thousand
Speaker 1: five game, tell us tell us about Jake Scott. Seth. Well,
Speaker 1: let me first, in foremost say that I was in
Speaker 1: diapers that when Jake Scott was dominating the Dolphins backfield
Speaker 1: and not even born in some part of that. I
Speaker 1: was born in seventy three. So um, no, I mean,
Speaker 1: it truly is a loss of a legend. And and
Speaker 1: Jake's a guy that Look, he was a Super Super
Speaker 1: Bowl m v p Uh. You talk about the no
Speaker 1: name defense, but he you know, he and Dick Anderson
Speaker 1: back there were two of the best in in in
Speaker 1: that entire era. UM, and not just just great Dolphin players. Obviously,
Speaker 1: it's fun to watch old highlights and see Number thirteen
Speaker 1: do something other than throw eighty five yard touchdown passes.
Speaker 1: It's kind of wild to watch it. Um. But the
Speaker 1: more you learn about Jake, the more you read about Jake.
Speaker 1: We've had some guests, including Dave Hyde, who told some
Speaker 1: amazing Jake Scott stories in the tank. Um, he just was,
Speaker 1: he was a character. He was he was a unique individual. Uh,
Speaker 1: tough son of a gun and so and and clearly
Speaker 1: you can even look statistically just a phenomenal football player.
Speaker 1: So it's a loss all the way around. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, our heart goes out to his family. But
Speaker 1: certainly I think the entire family, that an extended family
Speaker 1: that is the Dolphins station. And I hope that people
Speaker 1: do recognize that, you know, Jake was a special special
Speaker 1: player with with this franchise for a long time and
Speaker 1: part of the reason why, you know, we pride ourselves
Speaker 1: and being the only team to go undefeated, um and
Speaker 1: untied in the history of the NFL, and Jake Scot
Speaker 1: some big reason why that happened. We've got plenty of
Speaker 1: content up on Miami Dolphins dot com taking a look
Speaker 1: at the life of Jake Scott, the career of Jake Scott.
Speaker 1: We have a photo gallery. Andy Cohen read a great piece.
Speaker 1: It's up on Miami Dolphins dot com right now, So
Speaker 1: go check that out if you guys have not done
Speaker 1: so already. Oh, j what's coming up next here in
Speaker 1: the fish Tank? We got I know Seth has been
Speaker 1: telling me about an episode that I can't waite to
Speaker 1: hear personally, but I'm not going to spoil it because
Speaker 1: I'm not sure when it's coming out yet. But what's
Speaker 1: coming up this week for you guys? Yeah, we're not sure,
Speaker 1: all right, We've gotta We've got a couple of things
Speaker 1: ruined tank. As we we'd like to bring out, but
Speaker 1: I know we've got it. We've gotta Doozy coming out
Speaker 1: with one of my of course, another white out, because
Speaker 1: every time we bring white outs, I say, let's break
Speaker 1: the news. Juice, go ahead and break it right here
Speaker 1: on Drive Time. All right, Yeah, we got we goton
Speaker 1: best this Tuesday, This Tuesday coming out. We got the
Speaker 1: vone best coming on. And boy was it. That's why
Speaker 1: I was talking about the beginning, about the whole Channing situation.
Speaker 1: Devin is gonna give me a run for his money.
Speaker 1: He's gonna give a run for its money. Man. It's
Speaker 1: one of the best episodes that we've recorded. We went
Speaker 1: about an hour and fifteen minutes. It was that good.
Speaker 1: He was. He was real. He was real and wrong man,
Speaker 1: and we we know the trials and tribulations that he's
Speaker 1: going through, and he talked about everything, man. So it
Speaker 1: was it was absolutely amazing. So if you would want
Speaker 1: to add anything to that, no, I mean, Juice just
Speaker 1: he said it all. Devon. Uh. Look, he was a
Speaker 1: fun guy to root for, right the underdog that shows
Speaker 1: up in the smaller guys who were tough and make
Speaker 1: all those catches. We know another one who might be
Speaker 1: sitting on the podcast with us here but divine. Well,
Speaker 1: although you know, I guess underdog can't be the first
Speaker 1: round pick Underdog, but the vines entire story, and I
Speaker 1: think there's elements of it that people don't even know
Speaker 1: from the front end, and then there are things that
Speaker 1: we saw, but we're really confused and concerned as to
Speaker 1: what happened to him on the back end of his career.
Speaker 1: And Devon talks about it all, but he's he's just
Speaker 1: so inspirational. Um. He did not hide from anything. He
Speaker 1: was so honest. He was so candid and vulnerable. I
Speaker 1: think a lot in this interview juice Um and we
Speaker 1: also talk about some fun moments during his career. You
Speaker 1: know that that season that he had as a rookie
Speaker 1: where he he was I think second all time in
Speaker 1: receptions for an undrafted rookie wide receiver. Um, it was
Speaker 1: it felt like he came out of nowhere, you know,
Speaker 1: for those of us, particularly on the East Coast, came
Speaker 1: out of why he felt like it came out of
Speaker 1: nowhere and was really just a spectacular player, also really
Speaker 1: wonderful in the community. I had an opportunity to work
Speaker 1: with him some of his best route functions that that
Speaker 1: he participated in. So we were really excited that Davon
Speaker 1: was that we were able to get in touch with
Speaker 1: Davon and that he was willing to come into the
Speaker 1: tank and and I think he had a lot of
Speaker 1: fun and telling stories that he felt he wanted Dolphin
Speaker 1: fans to hear. That's that's awesome to hear. I remember
Speaker 1: when he you mentioned kind of coming from nowhere. I
Speaker 1: was a big part of Dolphins message board communities back
Speaker 1: in those days, and we would cover we would cover,
Speaker 1: you know, I use air quotes O T A s
Speaker 1: In summer camps, and it was always dismissive, like, oh, sure,
Speaker 1: Devon Best, this little undrafted rookie's gonna make an impact,
Speaker 1: and everyone would dismiss it as this guy that's having
Speaker 1: good practices every single day. Low and behold, he winds
Speaker 1: up being a big time producer and made some big
Speaker 1: time catches on the division championship team in two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight. Seth Levitt, OJ mcdufee, the Fish Tank Podcast,
Speaker 1: Bob Bomb Howard and the Can last week and we
Speaker 1: got hopefully Devon Best this week coming up. We'll see
Speaker 1: what they come up on Tuesday. Guys, appreciate your time
Speaker 1: as always, cross over Friday another success, Thanks for having
Speaker 1: this and away they go. Fun as always with the
Speaker 1: guys from the Fish Tank Podcast. As for this edition
Speaker 1: of the Drive Time podcast, that's gonna be My time.
Speaker 1: We'll be back with you guys on Sunday night to
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