WEBVTT - Selects: How Pompeii Worked 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:03.840 Hey, everybody, it's Josh and Chuck is here in spirit too, 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:07.120 and we just wanted to drop a casual reminder that 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:11.440 we are going to have a swinging Pacific Northwest Swing 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:15.160 this coming February, and tickets are now on sale. February 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:18.280 one will be at the More Theater in Seattle, February 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:22.200 two will be at Revolution Hall in Portland, and on 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:25.439 February three, for SF Sketch Fest, will be at the 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:28.800 Sydney Goldstein Theater. Go check out all of our social 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:32.479 media's for more information and links to tickets, and we'll 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:38.240 see you in February. Hey, everybody, have you ever been 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:41.680 buried under ash from a volcano? Well? I haven't either, 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:45.000 but the people of Pompey were, so this episode How 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:48.559 Pompey Worked goes back to February and it was a 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:51.319 good one. It's our real cracker, so check it out. Now. 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:58.120 Welcome to Stuff you Should Know, a production of I 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:08.559 Heart Radio. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:12.800 There's Charles w Chuck Bryant, there's Jerry over there. We're 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:16.280 all wearing togas, which makes the Stuff you Should Know, 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:22.759 the Ancient Roman Edition or the Animal House Edition. Yeah 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:27.600 it could be. I'm blue do I just saw that 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:31.840 that movie that Netflix movie about Oh yeah, Doug Kenny 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:36.800 and then Lampoon. Is it good? Well, the documentary is better. 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:42.240 Oh is this like a biopic? Uh? Yeah, I mean yeah, 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:46.080 it's a movie movie. I got you. Yeah, I judge 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:49.640 my um what I watch on Netflix just based on 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:53.280 like the illustration or the drawing or the art. And 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:55.600 sometimes that's a good rule of thumb, in other times 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:57.880 it's not. But that one I kind of avoided it 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:00.920 because of the art. Yeah, I mean it's not great. 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:03.960 I kind of enjoyed it because I like all the 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:07.160 people and it's kind of fun seeing someone be Bill 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:10.280 Murray and someone be Chevy Chase and John Belushi and 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:12.920 a little bit of the making of Animal House and Caddyshack. 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:15.720 But ultimately the documentary is much better. What's the name 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:21.480 of the documentary, um A drunk, stoned, brilliant dead, or 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:23.960 some combination of those words. I'm not sure I've come 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:27.120 across that. Yeah, that's that's really good. But brilliant and 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:31.080 feudal gesture, feudal and stupid gesture. Yeah, that's right. Is uh? 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:35.840 I give it two stars. I don't know how out 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:40.040 of how many though, I've just been steady consuming riff 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:45.320 tracks as fast as they'll clear him on Amazon Prime. Really, yeah, 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:48.200 that stuff never gets old. It really doesn't. It really 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:52.040 really doesn't. All right, Chuck. Now that we've gotten our 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:55.640 initial tangent a k a. The introduction out of the 0:02:55.680 --> 0:03:03.320 way recommended viewing, right, um, let's talk Pompeii. Yeah, because 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:06.200 I mean that's what we're doing today. And frankly, it's 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:10.359 two thousand and eighteen. We've been doing this for almost 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:12.280 a decade now, we're coming up on a decade in 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:16.400 a few months in April. Yeah, and we this is 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:19.400 the first we're doing on Pompeii. And that is just 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:23.079 utterly mind blowing to me. It really is, considering we've 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:28.399 done shows on both volcanoes and super volcanoes um and 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:34.200 our our show on tiny volcanoes all right, that was 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:38.400 Little the Littlest Volcano. That was so good. It is 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:40.480 weird that we're finally getting around to us. Yeah, it 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:43.160 really is. Because we've also done like the Seven Wonders, 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:46.840 We've done tons of archaeology stuff. It's it's strange. We 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:50.320 did one on the real Atlantis, remember that one. Nope, 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:52.520 it was a good one. You should go back and 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:57.520 listen to it. Really, yeah, man, Yeah, I was like, oh, Monopoly, 0:03:57.560 --> 0:03:59.360 we haven't done one on that and looked it up 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:01.160 and yep, we should have. I do remember that one. 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:05.880 I was scouring my brain like, Okay, what what was 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:08.960 this episode? Like? What did we talk about? Nothing? It's 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:12.440 like it never happened. I mean, maybe we should just 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:14.240 go back and re record some of these for our 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:19.520 own benefit. Okay, reboot our own show, right just for us? 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:25.080 So um, okay, Well, we are finally talking POMPEII, and 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.640 to do that, we have to go back the way 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:32.159 Back machine and we should probably bring helmets and the 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:36.560 dog attack outfits that those those trainers wear. Yeah, and 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.039 also we need to fuel the way back with olive 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.039 oil on this trip. Let's we need to retrofit it 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.480 because we'll be in big trouble if we don't. Well, 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:47.279 let's use the good stuff, like the really high grade stuff, 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:49.760 because it burns my throat. I like the mid grade 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:52.279 e v o O, So let's save that for eating, 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:55.880 use the high test stuff for traveling. Oh you don't 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:59.160 like really get olive wood? H No, I don't I 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:01.159 want to say that I do, but I don't. It 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:05.680 burns my throat. Yeah, like when you just do shots 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:09.520 of it. Yeah, maybe that's the problem. Shot of olive oil, 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:15.040 shot of crank case soil. Well, you know what they say, 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:18.719 olive oil before crank case oil never sicker, right, No, 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:27.880 it's the other. Oh god, alright. So we're in the 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:31.839 way back machine. We have our our rescue gear. We 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:35.160 have our olive oil. It's our dog attack gear. Sure 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:38.560 why because the dogs there? No, because of the falling 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:41.920 pummice in stone that's about to hit the area. Yeah, 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.719 but there. I just wondered because they're very famously was 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:47.680 a cast of a dog, and there's actually a very 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:52.680 famous mosaic that says cave conum, which is aware of dog. Okay, 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.680 so yeah there are dogs there. Well, good thing, we 0:05:55.760 --> 0:06:01.640 got that suit right in our nice dispositions. Good dog. Okay. 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.280 So we're we're here. It's pretty nice. It's a very 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:08.239 nice area. It's pretty well populated. This is Pompeii itself, 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:11.720 and Pompeii is one of several towns right around here 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:13.800 on the Bay of Naples. And if you look up 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:19.600 over here, that giant, almost cartoonishly volcanic volcano over there. 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:24.200 That's Vesuvious. It's like an eight year old drew of 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:26.839 volcano and put it in Italy at the Bay of 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:31.839 Naples by Naples, and uh, that's it. That's that's Vesuvius. 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:37.680 It's a it's what's called a strato volcano. That's right. Uh, 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:40.120 And well, I guess we should. You can go back 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:45.360 and listen to volcanoes from December two thousand ten or 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:49.000 super volcanoes just last April. But for those of you 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:51.920 don't know, a strato volcano is sort of if you 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:55.800 think about the just the run of the mill traditional 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:59.800 volcano and a cartoon where it just pops like a 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:03.920 campaigne bottle, that's a strato volcano. Yeah, and it's it's 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:07.120 actually just built up from previous explosions. So the very 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:10.080 presence of a strato volcano indicates that there's been a 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:13.240 lot of activity in that area and it's blown straight 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.560 up into the air and then come down and settle 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:17.600 down around it, and now you have a new layer 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:20.400 and it just builds up as a cone. And the 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:22.840 thing about the strato volcanoes, like you said, it pops 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.200 like a cork. The reason it does that is because 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:28.320 the lava that's kind of slowly growing and building up 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:32.440 over time, UM has gases that it seeps into the rock, 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:35.920 the surrounding rock that makes up the volcano, right and 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:39.960 um when those gases finally overcome a certain threshold, the 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:43.720 pressure threshold, that's when that cork goes off. And it's 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:49.720 about to happen, because it's either August or September or October, 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:56.120 and we're here in Pompeii. Yeah, and we should also 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:58.880 mention to you there are other volcanoes around if you 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:03.640 look around, because this isn't a unique area of Europe. 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:06.920 That is called the companion arc uh and there are 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:08.360 quite a few volcans, well not quite a few, but 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:12.960 there are several volcanoes. Vesuvius obviously the most active and 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:17.920 deadly um and famous. But what the companion arc is 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:23.240 or companion is there's a process called subduction where basically 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:27.200 a tectonic plate bumps up against another one and moves 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:30.720 down into the mantle beneath the other plate. And that's 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:33.559 what's going on here where the African plate is meeting 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:36.679 the Eurasian plate. Right. So there's like all that um 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:40.520 hot molten earth that's kind of bubbling up through that seam, 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:43.160 and one of those holes is the volcano that we 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:47.079 know is Vesuvius. Right, yes, okay, so we got here 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:48.880 just in time to look around for a little bit 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:51.560 and kind of take in the the culture of the 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:55.960 area before the volcano. It's very nice. It is very nice. 0:08:56.000 --> 0:09:00.480 It was like a very very wealthy town, but not 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:02.960 really an important town as far as the Roman Empire 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:06.160 was concerned, but there were there was an inordinate amount 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:11.200 of wealthy people, and those wealthy people were inordinately wealthy. Um, 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:13.439 and they spend a lot of money on the town. 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:18.000 There's lots of statues everywhere. There's a good number of temples. Um. 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:21.720 There's one to isis. Uh, there's one a Jupiter. Um. 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:26.000 There's a big amphitheater and a big theater as well, 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:30.079 two separate things. Yeah, there's one that holds twenty thousand people, 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:33.680 which um, at its peak, that's how many people lived 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:37.200 in Pompeii. Which is a very democratic thing to do, 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:41.440 to say that, hey, uh, we're gonna host a show 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:43.200 here and we want everyone to be able to come 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.040 right and and that that's pretty cool that they did 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:49.000 do that, because there's a pretty mixed population in Pompeii 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:53.400 at the time, Pompeii and suburban Pompeii, which included Herculaneum, 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:58.640 uh Stabia, and um what was the other one, Chuck, 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:06.959 there's uh plazas, plazas Okay, Okay, So there's this string 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.439 of towns, but Pompeii is definitely the biggest of all 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:11.760 of them, and that's kind of like the center of 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:14.840 the area, right. But there's a lot of different people, 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.079 a lot of different type of people who were kind 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:20.240 of who kind of gravitated towards Pompeii. It was like 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:23.680 a cosmopolitan area, right, So you had wealthy people, you 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:26.719 have poor people, you have people from different areas. That's right. 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:30.640 And it was also kind of unique for its time 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:32.720 and that it was. It was a bit of a 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:39.400 resort town, so wealthy people all around Italy. Actually, some 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:42.080 of them would have I guess what you would call 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:44.840 it now would be a vacation home. Uh. And that 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:47.240 kind of got me down a rabbit hole of vacationing, 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:49.400 Like when did that actually begin? Because I had no 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:54.880 idea that the people of ancient Italy vacations. Yeah, but 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.400 apparently it's the thing. And even Nero is said to 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:00.599 maybe have had a place at Pompeii. Uh, And I 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:02.400 guess it's just you know, the weather here is lovely. 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:06.000 There's wine and olive oil everywhere. Like I said, that 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:08.720 big theater they built that and said, one day Pink 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:12.600 Floyd shall play here. Man, I watched that Echoes video 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:15.680 like ten times while I was researching this. It's pretty cool. 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:17.360 For those of you who don't know, Pink Floyd did 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:22.560 a very famous live concert, um, well not a concert 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:27.600 concert for no one, a live performance um in front 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:31.080 of whatever fifteen crew people that were filming it. Yeah, 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:33.920 in the middle of the Amphitheater at POMPEII. Yeah it's 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:37.520 a little trippy, Yeah, just a dad um. But then 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:40.880 David Gilmour uh a couple of years ago, I think 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:43.320 in two thousand and sixteen did a show there with 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:48.040 actual people there and it was the first like attended 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:52.199 concert event there since you know the Volcano Incante. Really 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:55.199 cool since the v I. Yeah, but and that also 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:57.520 is will kind of see in a little while. That 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:03.280 really gives away like just how accessible POMPEII is, the excavated, 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:06.520 ruined city. Um that you could go see a David 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:12.280 Gilmour concert there. Yeah. Um, like I said, wine and 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:14.360 olive oil was kind of one of the main trades. 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:18.440 But it was just a very rich farmland area because 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:22.600 that volcanic soil is so rich in nutrients. And they 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:26.000 were right there by the water with the Sarno River 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:28.480 and then right there on the bay, and they just 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:33.520 like life live in life there was pretty good and 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:37.360 even the slaves apparently could earn money and potentially even 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:40.760 by their freedom, which was pretty unusual. Um. I have 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:43.199 to say, also, you mean and I went to Pompeii, 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:46.199 as I've told you, and I can attest about that 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:50.120 that farmland and the fertility of it. They have lemons, 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:54.199 no joke, the size of your head, like they look 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:56.680 like you shouldn't. You shouldn't stand too close to them. 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:59.160 What do you do with that much? I don't, I 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:01.800 don't know. I'm mean make lemonade, I guess if you're 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:05.400 an optimist. Yeah, but it's just like you get one 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:08.840 lemon and you've really got fourteen lemons pretty much all right. 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:12.800 I think you're just slowly but surely cut away at it, 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:16.800 squeeze it into your face, pick up another piece, do 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:22.240 it again. Got you should we take a break. I 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:25.079 think that we weren't ready for a break yet until 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.600 that last joke, and now we are. Okay, So yeah, 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:29.720 all right, we'll be back right after this and talk 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:34.079 a little bit about the v I as watch my 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:56.000 sk sk but you should know I sk alright, Chuck, 0:13:56.280 --> 0:14:01.080 what is the v I? The volcano incidet okay, I 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:04.400 didn't realize it had been abbreviated, or the big one. 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:07.840 That's a good one too, So let's go with the 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:12.160 let's go with the b oh Okay. So um Pompey, 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:15.280 it's this nice driving city of twenty thousands. It's a 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:20.680 resort area to um and on. I guess the morning 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:24.960 of August, and we should say that date is actually 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:27.040 up for debate. Well sure, I guess we'll talk about 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:28.640 it a little more later, but we're going with August 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:33.840 because that's the date that's still in use. Um. There 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.840 was a rumble from Vesuvius. There was an earthquake in 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:40.800 the area enough to like get everybody's attention. But supposedly 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:44.680 that wasn't a very infrequent occurrence. That that Vesuvius caused 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:48.160 earthquakes pretty pretty frequently in the region, and it wasn't 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:51.400 a big cause of panic. Yeah, Like one reason so 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:54.280 many people died because I think because they were used 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:56.880 to that kind of activity and they were like, man, 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:58.640 a big deal. We're used to the earth moving under 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:01.600 our feet. No reason to to flee the town, right, 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:05.160 There have been a pretty substantial earthquake sixteen years before, 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:09.080 and I think sixty three ce Um where they had 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:12.040 to reconstruct a lot of stuff like entire temples and 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:15.440 things have been knocked down. So I'm sure they were like, 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:18.640 that's nothing compared to Old sixty three, the quake of 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:23.400 sixty three. Yeah. Yeah, and they also, um, they weren't 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:29.240 panicked because they the previous eruptions no one really knew about. 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:32.360 There were no records of those. There wasn't even they 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:34.880 didn't even say volcano. There wasn't a word for volcano, 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:39.080 so it wasn't really on their radar as Hey, this 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:43.160 thing has happened before on a grand scale. Uh. They 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:45.320 were just kind of enjoying their life. Yeah. There weren't 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:49.720 cartoons back then to be like that's a cartoonishly volcanic volcano, 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:53.000 that's right, So they that's kind of ironic too that 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:55.280 they didn't realize that there was a long history of 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:59.440 volcanic activity there because it turns out that modern volcanologists 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:03.200 in gall just an archaeologist, are pretty sure that there 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:07.120 are plenty of human settlements that were covered over by 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:10.720 the volcano, and that by the time Pompeii was built, 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:13.600 it was built atop these old settlements that have been 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:17.000 covered over. So it's like lost city thanks to the volcano. 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:19.960 Everybody forgets. Somebody's like, oh, this is a nice area, 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:23.480 will come build here, covered over by volcano. Everybody forgets 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:26.720 in the cycle repeats again, and that's where Pompeii found 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:32.360 itself and by s and so on this day the 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:36.040 earth rumbles And I want to direct you to this 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:39.680 really great website called open Culture and just search Destruction 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:42.440 of Pompeii Open Culture and they have a video it's 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:45.320 like eight minutes long, which is basically like a It's 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:47.800 like they placed a camera in the c g I 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:52.600 world of um Pompeii just and trained it on Vesuvius 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:56.600 and left it running for twenty four hours. And um, 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:59.560 it really gets to point across of how destructive this 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:02.120 this would have been. Yeah, I think we I think 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:04.719 you shouted that very same thing out on super volcanoes 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:07.600 had to have. It's a really cool video. If you 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:09.480 have you seen it yet, Yeah, yeah, I saw it 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:12.440 after you shouted it out. Yeah. I watched it again 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:14.960 this morning. And I think just from researching all of 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.119 this stuff, that really drove at home even more. It 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:19.840 was kind of unsettling to watch this time, you know 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:27.520 for sure. So uh, a little afternoon on is when this, um, 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:32.040 when this when the champagne cork popped. Uh. And they 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:35.239 were not ready for this. Uh, like we said, just 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:38.480 because of all the aforementioned reasons. Um. And the only 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:42.159 account or one of the only accounts we have is 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:45.000 we've talked about plenty of the elder and his nephew, 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:49.160 plenty the younger before. Uh, they were not there. They 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:54.000 were in my see Him, which is not too far away. 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:56.240 It was on the northwestern edge of the Bay of Naples, 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.119 but that's where plenty of the Elder was stationed. And 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:00.840 then plenty of the younger and his mom were there 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:05.080 as well. Uh. And apparently when this started to go down, UM, 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:08.640 plenty of the elder got a message from a friend saying, hey, 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:12.240 can you come and get me? It's going down, And 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:15.439 he took off to go and plenty the younger was like, no, 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:18.960 I'm gonna stay here, which was a pretty smart move. Yeah. 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:21.119 And and what's how do you pronounce that town? I 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:25.960 never tried my scene him is there right? Okay? So 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:29.840 he and his mom were there, and it's not really close. 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:33.760 I mean, as far as like Pompeii is concerned, Pompey 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.720 is way closer to Vesuvius than mycene him is. But 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:41.200 they still had an extremely harrowing um experience there on 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:45.800 mycene him too, just from the fallout from Vesuvius um, 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:50.240 even though Pompeii and Herculaneum and um uh Stabbia all 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:54.160 got the worst of it um plenty. The younger's account, 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:59.040 it's the only firsthand account of the eruption of Vesuvius. Then, um, 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:02.880 it's pretty scary stuff. Like he says, like the sky 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:05.920 went dark, but not dark, like the moon wasn't out, 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:08.600 or there weren't any stars. He said, it suddenly got 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:11.680 dark like somebody put a light out in an enclosed room, 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:14.560 like that kind of dark, like apparently you couldn't see 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:17.080 people just a few feet ahead of you. They just 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:19.840 got real dark, real fast. Yeah, And you can you 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:23.040 can read his entire account online but here's another nice 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:25.760 pull quote. You could hear the shrieks of women, the 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:28.719 wailing of infants, and the shouting of men. There were 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:30.920 some who prayed for death. In their terror of dying, 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:33.960 many besought the aid of the gods. But still more 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:36.680 imagine there were no gods left, and that the universe 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:40.800 was plunged into eternal darkness forever more. It's pretty grim, geez. 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:45.760 So this is again in Massini Um. I think I'm 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:49.680 not saying that right still seen him, my seeing him um. 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:53.000 And Pompeii the situation is much much, much worse. And 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:55.080 Pliny the Younger was saying that they were kind of 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:57.919 huddled in I think a house or something somewhere. But 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:01.359 even in this house, the ash that was like accumulating 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:03.360 around them and on top of them was so much 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:05.159 that they had to stand up every once in a 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:08.359 while and shake it off. It was again much worse 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:11.560 in Pompeii itself. There's a lot of ash falling and 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:16.680 covering people inside their houses and under structures, and either 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:19.359 you stay there and start to worry about getting buried, 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:22.280 or even worse, you start to worry about the roof 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:26.200 collapsing under the weight of all that gathering ash and pummice, 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:29.400 or you risk going out and being hit by one 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:32.159 of those pummice rocks, which if you've ever picked up 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:35.200 a volcanic rock, it is way lighter because it's very porous, 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:39.520 way lighter than a like a sedimentary rock of the 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:42.080 same size. But you still wouldn't want to get hit 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:44.280 in the head by one of those things after it's 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:47.159 falling twenty miles out of the sky. And this is 0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:50.440 actually what they think. Um the height that this ejective 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:53.800 coming out of the volcano reached was twenty miles or 0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:56.960 something like thirty two kilometers, I think. Yeah, So here's 0:20:57.000 --> 0:20:59.920 here's a couple of stats for you. Um ash was 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:02.640 falling at a rate of about six inches an hour, 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:07.240 which is you know, that's if you imagine that as rain, 0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:09.520 and if you've ever seen a rain like that, that's 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:13.159 an unbelievable amount of rain. So imagine that is Ashu 0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:17.680 lava was flowing at about sixty eight miles an hour 0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:21.800 by the time it started sailing down the hillside right right. 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:23.760 So so you've got a few things. You've got the 0:21:23.800 --> 0:21:26.680 first explosion, the eruption, where like you said, the court 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:30.320 goes off the ejective goes into the air. Pliny described 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:32.320 it as like a great pine tree with a big 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:35.360 long trunk, and then way up high it branches out, 0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:39.239 and those are now called pliny in eruptions um. And 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:43.959 then later on from all this activity, the the cone 0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:49.000 of the volcano collapses, and when that happened, it shot 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:52.639 out this pyroclastic flow, which is made up of ash 0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:55.960 and hot gas. From between. I think I saw four 0:21:56.040 --> 0:22:00.800 hundred to fift hundred degrees fahrenheight, which is um a 0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:06.680 substantial amount in celsius too. That's the that's the that's 0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:10.959 the translation. And um, it's it's like you said, flowing. 0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:13.159 I saw a hundred miles an hour. You saw sixty 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:16.480 three mile. But I mean that's one of those that's 0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:18.360 one of those things that I'm sure you know they 0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:21.520 can't really tell exactly, but at any rate that it's 0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:25.200 going to be super fast, super fast, super hot. And 0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:29.000 they think now, before they thought that everybody in Pompeii 0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:32.200 died from being covered in ash um, they think now 0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:34.800 that they actually died much more quickly than that, right 0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:38.040 when that priorro clastic flow was anywhere near them, especially 0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:40.680 when it overtook them, it would have killed them instantly, 0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:43.000 which actually is we'll see accounts for some of the 0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:46.639 faces that we've have been found around on the people 0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:51.240 of the Pompeii victims. Yeah, and they even think and 0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:53.679 by the way, we went right past the fact that 0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:56.919 Pyrochastic Flow is a great, great band name, it really is. 0:22:57.520 --> 0:23:01.320 Uh but they even think out that most of them 0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:05.320 died from head injuries even before that even happened. Oh really, 0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:07.679 I hadn't seen that one. Yeah, well we'll get to that. 0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:11.280 I'll just throw that out there as a tease. Uh. 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:15.760 So this is shortly after midnight is when herculan a 0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:18.920 Um was covered and obliterated. About six thirty a m. 0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:22.760 The following morning is when Pompeii started getting hit with 0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:26.600 this flow. The whole thing takes about twenty five hours 0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:31.560 for all, for about two plus square miles to get 0:23:31.560 --> 0:23:36.679 completely destroyed. Yeah, and it in nineteen hours. It shot 0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:40.719 out something like one cubic mile of rock and ash 0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:44.800 out of that volcano. A cubic mile. Imagine looking up 0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:49.000 and seeing a mile cube and it's just all coming 0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:52.119 down on you. Well and again seeing this and not 0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:56.320 like not even knowing what a volcano is yeah, that 0:23:56.359 --> 0:23:59.560 it makes it anything scarier, I guess. But they must 0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:02.400 have thought the world was ending. Well yeah, I mean 0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:04.240 if they thought there were no more gods, I would 0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:06.639 guess that that that they would think like, well, this 0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:10.639