Speaker 1: Look how it's only films to be buried with. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to films to be buried with. My name
Speaker 1: is Brett Golstein. I'm a comedian, an actor, a writer,
Speaker 1: a director of Foam Mattress, and I love film. As
Speaker 1: Alfred Tennyson once said, if I had a flower for
Speaker 1: every time I thought of the film Past Lives, I
Speaker 1: could walk through my garden forever. Every week I'm by
Speaker 1: a special guest over, I tell them they've died. Then
Speaker 1: I get them to discuss their life through films that
Speaker 1: meant that most of them. Previous guests include Barry Jenkins
Speaker 1: and but Ruffin, Mark Frost, Sharon Stone, and even Z Fambles.
Speaker 1: But this week it is the really wonderful and lovely
Speaker 1: and brilliant Michelle Visage. The last three dates of my
Speaker 1: stand up tour in North America Second Best Night of
Speaker 1: Your Life are available at Brett goldsteintour dot com. I
Speaker 1: think there's only a few tickets left at Baltimore, Bellingham
Speaker 1: and Seattle. Get your tickets there. And Shrinking Season two
Speaker 1: begins Wednesday on Apple TV Plus. Make sure you watch it.
Speaker 1: We're all very excited for you to see it. Shrinking too,
Speaker 1: is a fucking banger. Head over to the Patreon at
Speaker 1: patreon dot com forward slash Brett Goldstein, where you'll get
Speaker 1: about twenty minutes extra's chat with Michelle, including a secret.
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Speaker 1: forward slash Brett Goldstein. So, Michelle Visage is a singer,
Speaker 1: she's a television personality. She's a broadcaster, she's a producer,
Speaker 1: she's an actor. You know and love her from RuPaul's
Speaker 1: Drag Race. I've met her a couple of times at events,
Speaker 1: but this was the first time I had time to
Speaker 1: really sit with her. We did this on Zoom a
Speaker 1: few weeks ago and it was so wonderful and I
Speaker 1: really think you're gonna love this one. So that is
Speaker 1: it for now. I very much hope you enjoy episode
Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty one of Films to Be Buried With. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to Films to be Buried With. It is
Speaker 1: me Brett gold and I am joined today by a musician,
Speaker 1: a pop star, a radio star, a podcast a TV star,
Speaker 1: a country's Got talent, a celebrity, big brother, a Emmy winner,
Speaker 1: multiple times, so many awards, she doesn't know where to
Speaker 1: keep them. She's so insanely successful and popular and beloved,
Speaker 1: not just in Ireland but down Under and also in
Speaker 1: America and in England. You name a country that she's
Speaker 1: not beloved, and I'll tell you you've made up a country name.
Speaker 1: She's here. I can't believe it. She's a superstar. Please
Speaker 1: welcome to the show. It's the amazing it's Michelle Visage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost as if you introduced yourself.
Speaker 1: Almost says if I've never been on drag Race and
Speaker 1: I wish you know, do you want to, well, I'd
Speaker 1: be shy.
Speaker 2: No, you would not be shy. Stop, but I'd be
Speaker 2: right next to you.
Speaker 1: The only thing I wouldn't want to do is be
Speaker 1: me to anyone. That's what I don't think I could
Speaker 1: be on it.
Speaker 3: No, that's my job, darling. And it's not mean, it's
Speaker 3: honest to help. How many auditions have you gone on
Speaker 3: that you haven't gotten? And for me, as a chronic auditioner,
Speaker 3: as a theater kid, all I wanted were notes to
Speaker 3: get better, tell me how to improve.
Speaker 1: How I could have.
Speaker 3: Landed that job and it would be more frustrating to
Speaker 3: not get notes and just say you didn't get the job. Well,
Speaker 3: tell me why I didn't get the job. So I
Speaker 3: feel like it's my job to help you. Tell you
Speaker 3: why you're not getting the job or why you did
Speaker 3: get the job.
Speaker 1: That's what it is. So you don't have to be mean.
Speaker 1: You're literally there to.
Speaker 3: Help and encourage and give your guidance from what your
Speaker 3: life experience has brought you thus far.
Speaker 1: Very nice, very nicely put Michelle, thank you. Where are
Speaker 1: you right now?
Speaker 3: I'm in my home in Los Angeles for a change.
Speaker 1: It's very nice to you. We've met. We've met twice before,
Speaker 1: and both times i've met you, you've been holding an
Speaker 1: Emmy and I really like that about you.
Speaker 3: Well, let's tell people the truth. I assaulted you at
Speaker 3: the Emmys pretty much verbally, and I was like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, I love you, which you must hear all
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 1: But I don't know you said I have notes.
Speaker 3: Oh god, Oh yes, that's really what happened. I was
Speaker 3: a fan of ted Lasso before the world caught on
Speaker 3: to ted Lasso, so I felt like I had a
Speaker 3: little insight. And yeah, it's just the lovely cast and
Speaker 3: you're incredibly talented and.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm here for it.
Speaker 1: God bless you. Michelle.
Speaker 2: Are you here now? Are you in LA like I
Speaker 2: mean in London? Do you live here?
Speaker 1: Now? I live there mostly, but I'm actually in New Orleans,
Speaker 1: New Orleans, New Orleans. Why are you?
Speaker 2: Where are you feeling Leans?
Speaker 1: I'm doing my tour show stand up show?
Speaker 2: Are you bringing it to London?
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to have to at some point
Speaker 1: as soon as I have time. I was excited.
Speaker 3: I'm going to be there all of November. So I thought,
Speaker 3: if you were there, what were you doing there in November?
Speaker 1: May? I ask?
Speaker 3: So I live there half the year, so yeah, So
Speaker 3: I go back to do work whatever work. And then
Speaker 3: I filmed there in January and February. And when I'm
Speaker 3: not working here, I go over there because I'll work
Speaker 3: over there. And I love it there. I love your
Speaker 3: fair Land.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fun. Great. Tell me this. You are? I
Speaker 1: think a workaholic? Yeah? And I like that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean listen, work see work aholic.
Speaker 2: I have to what's your sign?
Speaker 1: Cancer? Are you whiny? I'm just wondering.
Speaker 3: I'm a virgo through and through, So if I'm not working,
Speaker 3: what does this mean? If I'm not working, I'm a
Speaker 3: bit like I don't know what to do with myself.
Speaker 3: Some people love to travel, which is lovely. I love
Speaker 3: to travel too, but it's I love to travel to work,
Speaker 3: and then I'll see places on my downtime.
Speaker 1: Yes, so that's my thing.
Speaker 3: It's probably avoidance as well, because I feel like when
Speaker 3: there's downtime there's things you have to face emotionally.
Speaker 1: And it's like I'm not not prepared for that.
Speaker 2: So if I work, I could just cover it.
Speaker 1: Just moving, Yeah, keep moving. Never feel amen?
Speaker 3: Are you the same way, brock?
Speaker 1: Of course, I am completely Never sit still for a
Speaker 1: second and have to listen to the voices in your head.
Speaker 1: No thank you, no, no thank you, no thank you, no,
Speaker 1: no thank you. What does happen to you when you
Speaker 1: have a day off. I don't know, break down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, because I don't let it happen.
Speaker 2: Literally, on my day off.
Speaker 3: I will be like, okay, so I'm going to go
Speaker 3: to a bar class and then I have to bar class.
Speaker 2: I'm going to go get my nails done. You have
Speaker 2: to get my nails done.
Speaker 3: I'm going to go like I will fill it and
Speaker 3: then it's like oh, I have to cook dinner for myself.
Speaker 1: I'm exhausted.
Speaker 3: I'll cook my dinner, I'll eat, and I'll go to
Speaker 3: bed and wake up and do it again. I just
Speaker 3: love creating and I love to work and I love
Speaker 3: If I'm not working on a television show, then I
Speaker 3: want to be singing or I want to be doing
Speaker 3: something that doesn't give me time to be Like.
Speaker 1: Was the last thing you did live? Was it The
Speaker 1: Adams Family Live? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the last thing that I did live?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: How is that so fun? I was so It's so good.
Speaker 3: The music is so good. It's so underrated and underappreciated.
Speaker 3: It's a brilliant score. The music is fantastic. The book
Speaker 3: is really fun. And we had a good time. And
Speaker 3: it was all about a transfer and now it's figuring
Speaker 3: out the dates for the transfer and hoping it could
Speaker 3: we could make it happen, but we'll see. I love
Speaker 3: live theater. There's nothing like it and it just makes
Speaker 3: me happy. It he is my soul. I love it.
Speaker 3: I love to sing, I love to dance. I love
Speaker 3: to be I'm that girl. Do you want to make
Speaker 3: more music yourself?
Speaker 2: Do I want to do you want to I love
Speaker 2: to sing, Brett. But this is the way that I
Speaker 2: look at it.
Speaker 3: The way that I look at it is I'm newly
Speaker 3: fifty six years old, and it's like, do we need
Speaker 3: a fifty six year old pop star?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: I love you. You say the right things, you charmer.
Speaker 3: I don't know, so you know again, see what I
Speaker 3: just said about have downtime. And then those voices in
Speaker 3: your head they'll stop me immediately and be like, no,
Speaker 3: that ship has sailed.
Speaker 1: But I guess it hasn't. It's because we sat down.
Speaker 1: If we were if we were having this conversation on
Speaker 1: a run, you'd be like, fuck exactly, not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I just I don't know. It's a very
Speaker 3: weird thing. But I love music. I love to sing,
Speaker 3: and if it presents, you know, I think of maybe
Speaker 3: I'll do a Broadway album. People love that, And then
Speaker 3: it's like do they So it's that.
Speaker 1: I think they really do. I think they really do.
Speaker 1: I genuinely think they really do. I think we've seen
Speaker 1: evidence of that many times. I also, I am curious
Speaker 1: if you forgive me for not knowing all of your work,
Speaker 1: because frankly, that's so much. It's okay, And if I
Speaker 1: caught up with all of it. At some point there
Speaker 1: would be a gap where I was sort of changing
Speaker 1: DVDs over and I'd feel let the sadness hit me DVDs.
Speaker 1: Are you still watching DVDs? Yes, of course that's what
Speaker 1: this podcast is still about. Look at you, Look at you?
Speaker 1: With the segue, I'm still this is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Forgive me for not knowing. Do you write your own music?
Speaker 1: Do you? You never did? Or you don't anymore?
Speaker 3: No, I have written lyrics like the song that I
Speaker 3: did on my Bodyguard soundtrack.
Speaker 1: I wrote the lyrics for that.
Speaker 3: I'm more of a lyric person, not a I can't
Speaker 3: just sit down and be like, you know, one of
Speaker 3: these prolific writers that could just bang them out.
Speaker 1: I just can't do it. Is it true that having
Speaker 1: a song on the Bodyguard album, if you weren't to
Speaker 1: work on, you certainly don't need to be because you
Speaker 1: could live on a desert island that you owned the
Speaker 1: rest of your life by having won so on, Well.
Speaker 3: My darling, that would be true if you had a
Speaker 3: good deal. But I was a young kid who walked
Speaker 3: into not the worst deal, but certainly not a great deal.
Speaker 1: So no, The answer to that is no.
Speaker 3: But if it was my song and completely my song,
Speaker 3: then yeah, absolutely no Michelle.
Speaker 1: Yes, I forgotten to tell you something. You love me? No,
Speaker 1: I do love you, and I've never forgotten that. Just
Speaker 1: to be very good, that's never gone away. Just double check.
Speaker 1: What I have forgotten to tell you, though, and I
Speaker 1: probably should have told you earlier is and I feel
Speaker 1: bad I didn't. I feel like an idiot that I
Speaker 1: didn't sort of say this up front. But you're pregnant. No,
Speaker 1: well I haven't tested in a week. Okay, you've died.
Speaker 1: You're dead. How did you die? I stopped working? The
Speaker 1: most tragic death with that? Stop working, and you just
Speaker 1: sort of just exploded? Yeah, spontaneous combustion. Wow? Were you
Speaker 1: with people or just on the street? Were in the home?
Speaker 3: I was probably home with my dogs and all that's
Speaker 3: left were some eyelashes and perhaps a pair of glasses.
Speaker 1: Wow, it's tragic. Wow, that is fucking tragic. Yeah. How
Speaker 1: old do you think you were when this happened?
Speaker 2: Hundred twenty four? Because I'm a biohacker.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, well but so you still work oka like
Speaker 1: all of that. Do you worry about death? Michelle?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Are you insane? I'm an erotic, have you?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I worry about death.
Speaker 1: There are people that come on this show that say,
Speaker 1: not really, I don't get that.
Speaker 2: I don't understand those people are aids.
Speaker 1: You d a kid? How much do you worry about death?
Speaker 1: Every second? Every day? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Do you too? Are we two peas at part?
Speaker 1: Not every second of every day. I'm sort of honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm less worried about death than I used to be. Okay,
Speaker 1: and I tell you the real truth. Yeah, And I've
Speaker 1: talked about this in my stantitarde and I really really
Speaker 1: mean it. It's because I did Sesame Street. And when
Speaker 1: I did Sesame Street, I was like, well I can
Speaker 1: die now, And I really mean that. I'm like, well
Speaker 1: I did the thing, you know what I mean. It's like,
Speaker 1: does that that was it?
Speaker 2: That was your ps the resistance at Swansong.
Speaker 1: It's like anything else, everything's a bonus. Like if I
Speaker 1: die today, you go, well, it did Sesame Street? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? What else is there? Really fair?
Speaker 2: I get it, Okay, not every second.
Speaker 3: Of every day, but I will say this, Brett Zuno
Speaker 3: Sasame Stream. But I have health anxiety, So every day
Speaker 3: there's a new something, and I don't tell anybody. It's
Speaker 3: just my like, oh, I didn't feel that before. That
Speaker 3: must be some kind of malaria. So I'll google it
Speaker 3: and be like, oh. And I have a cousin who's
Speaker 3: a surgeon, and I text him for everything and he
Speaker 3: just laughs at me. But because of that, I'm really
Speaker 3: on top of my health. I'm probably the healthiest person
Speaker 3: you've ever met in your entire life.
Speaker 1: So that's a good thing. So you have like a
Speaker 1: morning text with your with your morning.
Speaker 3: It's pretty much like that, and I send him and
Speaker 3: I read I am not a doctor, but I definitely
Speaker 3: play one in real life, so I read everything in
Speaker 3: like actual structural like medical journals, like I'm that bitch.
Speaker 3: So I don't bother anybody with it apart from my cousin.
Speaker 3: But inside it's like I'm aware of everything. I'm aware
Speaker 3: of everything, and everybody's kind of go to as a
Speaker 3: barometer of health. So they'll call me or text me
Speaker 3: and say what do you think of this? And how
Speaker 3: about this? And I'm that so a.
Speaker 2: Little bit pre consumed with death, but not really.
Speaker 1: Like it's almost like a baseline, like you you're so
Speaker 1: used to being consumed by it almost don't. Yeah, anxiously
Speaker 1: it negates it. Yeah, it like cancels it. I have
Speaker 1: a question and a new theory. You do all this work,
Speaker 1: A lot of it is on TV. A lot of
Speaker 1: it's very sort of public. Do you get nervous? Are
Speaker 1: you nervous, say, doing drag Race? Do you get nervous
Speaker 1: at the day of a shoot you? Are you nervous
Speaker 1: at the Emmys all that stuff? Do I like stage
Speaker 1: right stuff? Not stage fright? But are you like nervous
Speaker 1: in the day building up to it? Or is it
Speaker 1: all fine?
Speaker 3: Anytime we're nominated for an award, I'm nervous because it's
Speaker 3: not even about the winning. It's just the anxiousness things.
Speaker 3: It's not anxiety in the negative way. It's excitement. It's adrenaline,
Speaker 3: So that's there. I still get by butterflies and nerves
Speaker 3: when I go on stage all the time. But I
Speaker 3: always think about Sammy Davis Junior, and he said, you know,
Speaker 3: the day he stopped getting butterflies was the day he
Speaker 3: would quit.
Speaker 1: And getting nerves means you care.
Speaker 3: If you didn't care, and it's not that big of
Speaker 3: a deal, you can just kind of like whatever agreed.
Speaker 3: So I do get nervous, and I don't mind the nerves,
Speaker 3: and it's usually in a stage performance, if I'm singing
Speaker 3: or acting, it's usually associated with that more than anything else.
Speaker 3: I don't get nervous for drag Race, but I do
Speaker 3: get excited because I love it so much, so that
Speaker 3: it's that kind of adrenaline thing. But I think the
Speaker 3: nerves really only hit me when it's live performance. Yeah,
Speaker 3: do you get nervous when you do your stand up show?
Speaker 1: Yeah? For sure. Yeah that's because she can sure I
Speaker 1: think that, and I agree, I think, but I've also
Speaker 1: realized it's like it is useful. It is the you
Speaker 1: need the adrenaline to do the thing. Yep. It gets
Speaker 1: you through and it protects you and it increases your
Speaker 1: It's like you get a super brain, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Your brain. Sometimes people ask me things where
Speaker 1: they get like, what would you say if someone said this,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't know, but if you were
Speaker 1: on stage with the lights and the pressure of order
Speaker 1: to go, I'd fucking have an insect in the moment exactly.
Speaker 1: It's in the moment. I agree. What do you think
Speaker 1: happens after you die? Do you think there's enough to life.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm the right person had this conversation with
Speaker 3: because this is something I think about it at least
Speaker 3: twice a week. And it's funny. I was listening to
Speaker 3: Howard Stern. I've been a Howard Stern fan my whole life.
Speaker 3: I grew up on him, and he had this whole
Speaker 3: thing about the reason people make such a big deal
Speaker 3: about things here is because, in his opinion, when it's done,
Speaker 3: it's just done. And it's so hard to face the
Speaker 3: fact that when it's done, it's done. So when we're alive,
Speaker 3: we're searching for things, whether it's religion or cryogenic you,
Speaker 3: whatever it is to justify your being or who you
Speaker 3: are or your legacy, so to speak. The truth of
Speaker 3: the matter is to him, it's done. You're not floating
Speaker 3: around with wings on. So now again I'm not trying
Speaker 3: to get religious or whatever. That's his take, and I
Speaker 3: was like, huh, that's dark, but it's probably closer to reality,
Speaker 3: Thank you, Howard.
Speaker 1: But also.
Speaker 3: I'll just drive off the street and text my cousin
Speaker 3: drive into a cliff. He had a point, which was valid,
Speaker 3: but for me, I feel like we know science and
Speaker 3: science is we are all energy.
Speaker 2: This is a fact. We are all energy.
Speaker 3: And energy doesn't go away, it just changes, right, So
Speaker 3: this same energy that I have on this earth will
Speaker 3: happen somewhere in the zeitgeist. But I don't think that
Speaker 3: we're flying somewhere with wings. But I do know that energy.
Speaker 3: I do believe in ghosts and I do believe in energy.
Speaker 1: Have you had an experience with guys.
Speaker 3: Not that I can remember, but I remember when I
Speaker 3: was really young once, I must have been eight or nine.
Speaker 3: I remember I was a really bad sleeper because of
Speaker 3: anxiety and trauma, you name it, different podcasts. You and
Speaker 3: I will go out for coffee for that. And I
Speaker 3: remember waking up my grandmother had died. I remember waking
Speaker 3: up and I saw her sitting at the end of
Speaker 3: my bed. Nothing happened, no words were exchange, but I
Speaker 3: was like fuck, screaming in the middle of the night
Speaker 3: for my mother. That type of thing. That was the
Speaker 3: only experience that I remember ever having. But I do
Speaker 3: believe in it. I do believe that we are not
Speaker 3: alone on this planet. And I do believe in spirits.
Speaker 3: So whether that's the afterlife or energy or the spirit realm,
Speaker 3: I believe that our energy and our spirits have to
Speaker 3: go somewhere.
Speaker 1: They don't just dissipate. Yeah, I mean, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1: How it's wrong. I'm afraid. I'm always right. And there
Speaker 1: is a heaven and you're going to it. Of course
Speaker 1: you are. There huge fans in heaven. It's filled with
Speaker 1: your favorite thing. What's your favorite thing, Michelle.
Speaker 2: Thing like, person, place or thing like noun?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your favorite nown? It's my a favorite noun.
Speaker 2: That's a very grand question, Brett.
Speaker 1: It's a grand question for a grand podcast. Let's hear it.
Speaker 2: What do you mean my favorite thing?
Speaker 1: I guess for example, you could some people might say cheese. People.
Speaker 1: If people is your answer, people, I love people. Then
Speaker 1: it's filled with people I like personality.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't eat dairries cheese.
Speaker 1: I'm boring, all right. It's filled with you're not boring dogs? Dogs?
Speaker 2: Can it be filled with dogs?
Speaker 1: It can? But the thing is you ask for people.
Speaker 1: So I'm afraid bad.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's animals are animals, animal people.
Speaker 1: It's filled with people who are half animal, and it's
Speaker 1: actually quite terrified. It's very scary. You've just ruined the
Speaker 1: like terrifying animal people. They're like very people. They graw
Speaker 1: at you, but they're very told and they're all very
Speaker 1: excited to see you. But they want to talk to
Speaker 1: you about your life, but they want to talk to
Speaker 1: you about your life through film. And the first thing
Speaker 1: they ask you, Michelle Visage, what's the first film that
Speaker 1: you remember seeing.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to say the obvious, and because you
Speaker 3: don't want the obvious, I'm going to go with the
Speaker 3: second obvious. So I really fought hard to not do
Speaker 3: the obvious. But the really the first film I remember
Speaker 3: going to the theater and seeing was Star Wars, the
Speaker 3: original Star Wars, because I am a woman of a
Speaker 3: certain age, so that's what the world was doing. And
Speaker 3: I had a brother who was still to this day
Speaker 3: the biggest Star Wars geek on the planet. But because
Speaker 3: everybody says that, let's push that aside younger three years younger,
Speaker 3: so he was in the heyday of like he still
Speaker 3: has the original stuff that we had bought. Anyway, I'm
Speaker 3: going to say Superman with Christopher Reeves. It's another one,
Speaker 3: and I had a crush on him instantly, instantly had
Speaker 3: a crush on Christopher Reeves.
Speaker 1: Was he your first, like, ooh, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: No, it would probably be Captain Kirk William Shatner in
Speaker 3: Star Trek because I had a share doll and a
Speaker 3: Captain Kirkdall. And this is a true story. I don't
Speaker 3: know if I've ever told this story. I had Captain
Speaker 3: Kirk Dall William shatt and I had a share doll
Speaker 3: Barbie dolls like action figures, and I would strip them
Speaker 3: and put them in sixty nine and leave them on
Speaker 3: my shelf. And I had not been touched in appropriately
Speaker 3: by any family members or any darkness and that, yes,
Speaker 3: but my mother would take them apart constantly, and I'd
Speaker 3: put them back like I didn't know anything about that,
Speaker 3: Like what was I doing. I just knew that those
Speaker 3: parts connected that way, and I think that's weird.
Speaker 1: Would put them the right way round, though she would
Speaker 1: separate the good play she put them, wouldn't put them
Speaker 1: she would separate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, so I think William Shatner was my first
Speaker 3: inappropriate crust.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. Yeah. Where were you when you
Speaker 1: saw Superman and Star Wars?
Speaker 3: I would have been in South Plainfield, New Jersey, where
Speaker 3: I grew up at the local cinema. There was only
Speaker 3: one where people would go at the mall. We did
Speaker 3: not have a lot of money, so my mother was
Speaker 3: that Jewish mom who would say, well, buying you popcorn,
Speaker 3: but we're gonna bring a bag in with our own
Speaker 3: juice in a can and our own popcorn from home
Speaker 3: that I made on the stove, which was disgusting and
Speaker 3: not the same as buying it in the theater with
Speaker 3: butter and salt. So I'd see everybody around me getting
Speaker 3: to enjoy their taba popcorn and I had to open
Speaker 3: up a baggie, a jiffy bag and eat the burnt
Speaker 3: popcorn from the stuff.
Speaker 1: But distracted by the majesty of Christopher Reeve.
Speaker 3: You're so sexy with that curl. I wanted to be
Speaker 3: Lois Lane so desperately, and that didn't pan out for me.
Speaker 1: The only thing I love Sigma very much. I'm sure
Speaker 1: this has been discussed. Someone must have thought this. Anything
Speaker 1: that confuses me is when he takes her flying, he
Speaker 1: holds her and she flies next to Why isn't she like.
Speaker 2: Hah Because.
Speaker 3: The spirit went through her, his energy went through her.
Speaker 3: Obviously brat obviously all right, cool, thank you?
Speaker 1: What is what is the film that made you cry
Speaker 1: the most? Do you a cry of Michele visa cry?
Speaker 2: Do I strike you as a crier?
Speaker 1: I think to real quest, honestly real question, it is
Speaker 1: one or the other, as in, there's no like I
Speaker 1: dap my eyes. You're either a hysterical crier or you
Speaker 1: never You haven't cried in twenty years? Yes, you haven't
Speaker 1: cried into any answer is both? Right? I am. I'm
Speaker 1: not a crier. I can't.
Speaker 3: I try so desperately and as an actor, as a performer,
Speaker 3: like I'm in therapy literally right now, trying to deconstruct
Speaker 3: the trauma that's been done in my childhood so I
Speaker 3: can get to that point of it being attainable. And
Speaker 3: when I feel anything, I text my therapist. I'm like,
Speaker 3: I just felt something and it's really exciting to explore that.
Speaker 3: As I know it sounds so trivial, but I swear
Speaker 3: to you, Brett, I will text my therapist. I'm like,
Speaker 3: I feel like prickly bits behind my eyes. I think
Speaker 3: we're getting closer. It's it's literally the response to childhood drama.
Speaker 3: And I built this wall around me, and I am
Speaker 3: there for everybody else emotionally except not for myself, so
Speaker 3: I'm working on that. I am not a crier, but
Speaker 3: there have been movies that made me actually sob and
Speaker 3: probably one of the biggest is a film where Sean
Speaker 3: Penn was ripped off not winning the Oscar or.
Speaker 1: Did he win the Oscar for that?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: No, Dead Man Walking with Sean Penn and Susan Straanitch
Speaker 3: she won the Oscar. That movie had me in hysterics.
Speaker 3: That one and The Passion of the Christ. Those two
Speaker 3: had me in so absolute it starts and I went
Speaker 3: to both, I think by myself, and I was just
Speaker 3: uncontrollably sobbing in both of those films. And it is
Speaker 3: quite cathartic to be able to sob. I'm not a
Speaker 3: pretty sober. I don't really care what I look like
Speaker 3: anymore when I cry, but I'm not a pretty crier.
Speaker 1: Bite those films and with a crucifix. Yeah, maybe it's
Speaker 1: my thing. Yeah, maybe Jesus, maybe they're both religious. Yeah.
Speaker 1: What's the film that scared you? The mice? Oh? Do
Speaker 1: you like being scared? I love it.
Speaker 2: I love horror movies.
Speaker 1: I love to be scared. I'm also one of.
Speaker 3: Those people in the theater that's like ahh like I'm yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm a talker in a horror movie because I love
Speaker 3: a jump scare. I love I hate it, I love
Speaker 3: to hate it, but I love it. So I have
Speaker 3: a bunch of friends that will go together, and I
Speaker 3: just love it. So the film that scared me the
Speaker 3: most earliest that I can remember was Salem's Lot, but
Speaker 3: the nineteen seventy nine one with David Soul.
Speaker 2: I remember, being very young.
Speaker 3: I would have been eleventh just if that, and I
Speaker 3: remember they were watching it at my grandmother's house and
Speaker 3: I walked out I saw it. I literally couldn't sleep
Speaker 3: for nights after kind of creeping and watching it.
Speaker 2: It's frightening. I think Stephen King. It's just a very
Speaker 2: very scary movie.
Speaker 3: And I know there's been a remake, but I'm talking
Speaker 3: about the seventy ninety.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this new one coming now, I think.
Speaker 2: Again they've already done one. They're doing another.
Speaker 1: One that's an HBI showe.
Speaker 2: Oh, they're doing a series.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, No, this was the David Soul one, and
Speaker 3: I can't.
Speaker 1: You need to watch it if you never did. What's
Speaker 1: your favorite horror reason?
Speaker 3: I actually really enjoyed The Barbarian.
Speaker 1: Which did oh yeah, gravel.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed that one.
Speaker 3: It didn't get a lot of publicity, like people were
Speaker 3: not really talking about it, but it was well done.
Speaker 3: And listen, there's always holes in horror movies. Like when
Speaker 3: they walk in, it's like, okay, you both have the
Speaker 3: same Airbnb and you're going to stay there. Okay, it's
Speaker 3: the only house on that block that doesn't look like
Speaker 3: it's been ransacked and dilapidated. So those are the fun
Speaker 3: parts of horror movies, being like yeah, right, But it
Speaker 3: ended up being really enjoyable.
Speaker 1: I liked that. That's a lot of it. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: is the film that you love? It is not critically acclaimed,
Speaker 1: but you love it unconditionally.
Speaker 3: Okay, So anybody that knows me is going to scream
Speaker 3: this right now before you even say it.
Speaker 1: But it is Showgirls. It is the best movie ever made.
Speaker 3: It is the one that I wished I could have
Speaker 3: been in, even if I was in the cast, you know,
Speaker 3: in the background being a dancer.
Speaker 1: I don't care. Yeah, can I ask you this. I
Speaker 1: had Kyle McLaughlin on this show. I love him too,
Speaker 1: and he and he he brought up show Guys in
Speaker 1: like a well. I made this bad film, and I said,
Speaker 1: you absolutely did not. Can you in in two minutes
Speaker 1: passionately tell Kyle why he's in the greatest film at
Speaker 1: all time.
Speaker 3: Please, First of all, Kyle, I love you with all
Speaker 3: my heart and soul twin peaks like I can go
Speaker 3: on and on about Kyle McLaughlin.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is not about the best. This is about the.
Speaker 3: Masterpiece that is Showgirls, because and first of all, he
Speaker 3: was so good in it, and so good it's just
Speaker 3: epic in every way I'm not sure I can put
Speaker 3: into words. But Kyle, first of all, we love Portlandia,
Speaker 3: We love everything that you've done.
Speaker 2: We know that you're a serious actor.
Speaker 1: We get it.
Speaker 2: You are brilli in everything that you've done.
Speaker 3: But there are some things in life that don't have
Speaker 3: to be taken that seriously, and in this case, it
Speaker 3: was Showgirls.
Speaker 1: For you and your defense.
Speaker 3: It got so much hype that there was no way
Speaker 3: it could ever live up to a hype that was getting.
Speaker 3: There was absolutely no way that it was going to
Speaker 3: live up to what was presented. And then you had
Speaker 3: Elizabeth Berkeley in the lead role, who you know, came
Speaker 3: from this wholesome background, so it was all going to
Speaker 3: be a difficult ride. You were brilliant, Elizabeth was brilliant.
Speaker 3: Gina Gershan is always brilliant and everything that she does.
Speaker 3: It was brilliantly filmed, written, conceived, executed.
Speaker 2: There's no film like it. There never will be.
Speaker 3: They tried with the second part, which didn't even see
Speaker 3: the light of day.
Speaker 1: And you're my hero.
Speaker 2: I love you, right, I love it, greatest, greatest movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah. What is the film on the other hand that
Speaker 1: you used to like but you've watched recently and you've thought,
Speaker 1: I don't like this no more.
Speaker 3: There's a few, but I chose one that really made
Speaker 3: me laugh. I like stupid things, Brett. I like really
Speaker 3: dumb humor, you know, like Elvira that her movies are
Speaker 3: like the best ever, like dumb, funny, but dumb smart.
Speaker 2: This movie was dumb, just dumb.
Speaker 1: And it was Howie.
Speaker 3: Mandel's movie called Walk Like a Man, where he was
Speaker 3: like raised by wolves. Nobody has seen it, just me, like,
Speaker 3: and then he gets like domesticated, he gets like he
Speaker 3: literally was like a wolf boy. It is so dumb. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so you're laughing because it's that. But then I saw
Speaker 3: it recently, I was like, this is not as funny
Speaker 3: as I thought it was, but I used to It
Speaker 3: was my go to for a long time.
Speaker 2: But like there's some movies that still like.
Speaker 3: One of my favorite movies of all time that still
Speaker 3: holds up is Weird Science.
Speaker 2: It's one of the best movies ever made.
Speaker 1: Weird Si Mo ever made.
Speaker 3: I could quote every frickin' line from that movie and
Speaker 3: it still holds.
Speaker 2: Is it as funny as it was?
Speaker 3: Maybe in different ways you find different things, But Walk
Speaker 3: like a Man just didn't hold up.
Speaker 1: What is the film that means the most to you?
Speaker 1: Not necessarily the film is any good, but the experience
Speaker 1: you had seeing the film will always make it meaningful
Speaker 1: to you. Michell Olpissas.
Speaker 3: I think this one is because to understand me, to
Speaker 3: understand my trauma. Growing up, I was not a popular girl.
Speaker 3: I was not a pretty girl. The boys didn't like me.
Speaker 3: The boys made fun of me. And it wasn't until
Speaker 3: I started singing in a rock band going into high
Speaker 3: school and a popular boy liked me. So then people
Speaker 3: started taking notice of me and they were like, oh,
Speaker 3: she looks good now she lost weight's And it's like
Speaker 3: I always had to prove myself because I wasn't a
Speaker 3: cool kid. I was a theater geek and I had
Speaker 3: to make my own entertainment. So when this popular boy
Speaker 3: started liking me, we went on a date and we
Speaker 3: went to go see Jaws three in three D. And
Speaker 3: it's really not romantic or cute to get to the
Speaker 3: theater and have to put these paper glasses on. And
Speaker 3: I was very like self conscious of the fact that
Speaker 3: like I wanted to be cute because I wasn't like
Speaker 3: notoriously cute, and.
Speaker 2: He like my hand in the movie and it was like, oh.
Speaker 3: My god, and this is high school, like my girls
Speaker 3: had all my girlfriends, the three girlfriends that I had
Speaker 3: had already lost to virginity. And I hadn't even had
Speaker 3: a kiss at this point. We moved quick in Jersey,
Speaker 3: and uh, it was a big deal because I was.
Speaker 1: Like maybe, like maybe something will happen.
Speaker 3: So Jaws three and three D was a date with
Speaker 3: my very first boyfriend and I loved draws.
Speaker 1: Anyway, did you kiss? Kiss? We kissed with the glasses.
Speaker 2: On, not the glasses on.
Speaker 3: The glasses were off, and it was like at the
Speaker 3: end of the movie and I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: this is like in public, like people can see me
Speaker 3: kissing a popular boy.
Speaker 1: Oh, I got like, this is my.
Speaker 2: Moment kiss I mean, I don't, I don't. I'm definitely
Speaker 2: improved since then.
Speaker 1: I mean I was. I was new to it, and
Speaker 1: I immediately go to a sixty nine.
Speaker 3: Maake it right in the popcorn aside, just flip it,
Speaker 3: strip them off and flip it.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's a lovely story. Thank you? Did you? Did
Speaker 1: you go out with the popular for a while for
Speaker 1: four years? Whoa all through high school? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And I made him wait, I made him wait, he
Speaker 2: wasn't happy.
Speaker 1: He's longer. Yes, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was it because of me?
Speaker 1: So there's that. He was you also your first time? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was my first everything.
Speaker 3: He taught me everything, Like I was so scared to
Speaker 3: have sex for so long that other things needed to
Speaker 3: be done, and he taught me everything everything I knew.
Speaker 2: So all the boys out there since.
Speaker 1: Him, you can thank him. I love this guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so to a lot of.
Speaker 2: Other guys there, Brett.
Speaker 1: What's that? What's the what is the film you most
Speaker 1: relate to? I don't know.
Speaker 3: That's That's like one of those movies where you look
Speaker 3: and you go, there's movies that I wished like sixteen
Speaker 3: Candles could be relatable because I was not popular and
Speaker 3: I'm not lamenting, and this is just a fact I
Speaker 3: had to myself into. It was like square peg, round
Speaker 3: hole type of thing. I had to find where I
Speaker 3: fit in, because yes, it was singing, it was acting,
Speaker 3: but I used comedy. So I ended up being class
Speaker 3: clown because I wasn't going to be popular for my
Speaker 3: looks and I wasn't going to be the hot girl.
Speaker 3: So I made people laugh and that is what worked
Speaker 3: for me. So there was something about sixteen Candles where
Speaker 3: I wasn't necessarily forgotten in my house, but I felt
Speaker 3: like if I didn't force myself into situations, they probably
Speaker 3: would have passed me by. And then you know, the
Speaker 3: popular boy liked me, and I felt like I had
Speaker 3: arrived because the popular boy liked me. So there's probably
Speaker 3: other movies that do it a little bit better, but
Speaker 3: maybe sixteen Candles, because that's what I always Every girl
Speaker 3: my age dreamed of being Molly Ringwald in that movie,
Speaker 3: and we all had the hots for Jake Ryan, all
Speaker 3: of us. There was not one person who did not
Speaker 3: have the hots for Jake Ryan.
Speaker 1: That's nice.
Speaker 3: And then I watched Vision Quest just to see him
Speaker 3: and then fell in love with Matthew Modin. But that's
Speaker 3: a different topic.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, he can get it still. He knows.
Speaker 3: I've interviewed him a million Tipton, he knows. He knows
Speaker 3: how much I love him. Paul loves him too. We
Speaker 3: both we both have the hots for him. We have
Speaker 3: the hots for YouTube Brett. So don't feel left out. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we do, both of us. I'm just going to say it.
Speaker 3: Most women don't say it. I'll say it.
Speaker 1: So this is huge, huge news, wonderful news. A day, Yeah,
Speaker 1: good day, thank you. What is speaking of? Which, what's
Speaker 1: the sexiest film you've ever seen?
Speaker 3: There's been a few, probably sexy, not just pornographic. Would
Speaker 3: be nine and a half weeks because growing up, yes,
Speaker 3: that was the go to I'm not necessarily a lover
Speaker 3: of food during intercourse, but.
Speaker 1: Mickey work was like wow.
Speaker 3: And Kim Besinger as well. I mean they were both
Speaker 3: so like at their prime. They're still both well. Mike,
Speaker 3: he's had some things done, but he's an incredible actor
Speaker 3: and I actually really enjoy watching everything that he does.
Speaker 3: The wrestler was amazing, Like, he's just an incredible actor.
Speaker 3: That goes there in Nine and a half Weeks was
Speaker 3: one of those movies that everybody was the buzz. Everybody
Speaker 3: would talk about did you see Nine and a half Weeks?
Speaker 3: It was like hot stuff that kids like. When I
Speaker 3: watched it for the first time, I was like feeling something,
Speaker 3: but at the same time like ill because I didn't
Speaker 3: you know, I didn't know what like unleashed sexuality looks like.
Speaker 1: And then you see that and you're like, wow, So
Speaker 1: that was pretty hot. That was thet That was a
Speaker 1: hot movie. That's a fucking hot film. And you're right
Speaker 1: about the food thing. They do make it look good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like the honey and yeah, yeah, but you do think
Speaker 1: in reality, what a mess? What a mess? What a Yeah?
Speaker 1: There's a sub category to this question. Okay, traveling bin
Speaker 1: is worrying. Why dunce a film you found arousing that
Speaker 1: you weren't sure? You shit?
Speaker 3: Again, many I have crushes on weirder people.
Speaker 2: This is no, this is not meaning you you're not weird.
Speaker 1: You have plenty of people. You've already pointed that that you.
Speaker 2: You have plenty of people chasing you.
Speaker 3: Okay, this was dangerous Liaison's for John Malkovich.
Speaker 1: I had the hots for John. That's cool. I think
Speaker 1: that's cool. That's a sexy film about sexy people being sexy.
Speaker 3: But for him, like it wasn't about Keanu and it
Speaker 3: wasn't about Uma, Like I had the hots for John Malkovich.
Speaker 1: But he's the one doing the who the fuck it?
Speaker 1: He's just sexy.
Speaker 3: He's just sexy, And yeah, I have felt that way
Speaker 3: for a long time about him, About Sean Pan, there's
Speaker 3: quite a few that have always been like, I'll watch
Speaker 3: it because I think he's fit.
Speaker 1: John Hamm, you know, there's all the John's. Well, I
Speaker 1: think I need to defend all these John's and say
Speaker 1: I think they're they're all fake guys. These aren't weird Dice.
Speaker 1: I mean they might be weird Dice, but.
Speaker 3: No, John Hamm is not a weirdo. But John Malkovich
Speaker 3: is not one you hear being the hot guys.
Speaker 2: Let's be exactly right.
Speaker 1: But I think I think if if you think, when
Speaker 1: you think where you go, yeah, he's just slightly scary.
Speaker 3: Exactly think about his stuff that he's got. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: there's something about him that I think I like a
Speaker 3: guy with intensity and there's that Yeah, and that's what
Speaker 3: that is. I like people who can lock out the
Speaker 3: rest of the world and take shit seriously and then
Speaker 3: also have a laugh. And that's what I felt about him.
Speaker 3: And he was so powerful in that movie and so naughty.
Speaker 1: It's a great, great film. It is a good one
Speaker 1: great What is objectively the greatest film of all time?
Speaker 1: Might not be your favorite, but it is the pinnacle
Speaker 1: of cinema, and is it show Goes?
Speaker 3: For me, it's show Girls. There is no better film.
Speaker 3: Citizen Kane, Lah, you know, you do your thing. I
Speaker 3: also really enjoyed Twelve Angry Men, which is a film
Speaker 3: that a lot of people don't talk about, but I
Speaker 3: really enjoy that.
Speaker 2: I love all old cinema.
Speaker 3: I love Marlin di Dietrich, I love golden Earrings, I
Speaker 3: love Blonde Venus like. I can go on and on
Speaker 3: about those movies, and it's such a personal thing, that question.
Speaker 2: There are different genres.
Speaker 3: But for me, the greatest movie of all times will
Speaker 3: always be Showgirls.
Speaker 2: I used to be obsessed with a movie called Agnes
Speaker 2: of God.
Speaker 3: I used to think that when I was an actor,
Speaker 3: you know, and I was in theater school, like I was,
Speaker 3: like Meg Tilly was the pinnacle for me. Like I
Speaker 3: wanted to be able to act the way Meg Tilly
Speaker 3: acted in Agnes of God like so, I mean, it's
Speaker 3: all so personal.
Speaker 1: The Show Guys is the one dude, when you first
Speaker 1: saw Show Guys, were you like this is it? Did you?
Speaker 1: Were you in love immediately?
Speaker 3: Or it's one of those movies like Dirty Dancing where
Speaker 3: you watch it and you're like, I love this movie
Speaker 3: with all I've got and I will never turn the
Speaker 3: channel when it's on. I own it on DVD, I
Speaker 3: own it on every possible way to own it. Star
Speaker 3: eighty is another one that I could watch. Have you
Speaker 3: ever seen it? Yes, Eric Roberts, It's finest performance. He's
Speaker 3: an incredible actor. Papa Greenwich Village is great too. But
Speaker 3: Starity is another one of those movies that I can
Speaker 3: watch over and over and over again.
Speaker 1: That is a brilliant, brilliant film I've seen. I have
Speaker 1: an older sister, I've seen Dirty Dancing five thousand times,
Speaker 1: and I watched it. I hadn't seen it for about
Speaker 1: ten years, and it was on the other day and
Speaker 1: I watched it and I was like, fucking know, it
Speaker 1: holds up.
Speaker 2: We never never gets old. The chemistry is a.
Speaker 1: Perfect film it is. It's a really really good film.
Speaker 3: It is, but it was predictable, so I was trying
Speaker 3: to avoid predictability.
Speaker 1: For no, I appreciate you. What is the film you
Speaker 1: could or have watched the most over and over.
Speaker 2: Again, besides show Girls, which is a given.
Speaker 1: Besides show Yes, is Twilight the first one? Really?
Speaker 3: I have it on my flight my phone, like I
Speaker 3: have it saved. I will always default to Twilight. I
Speaker 3: love it so much.
Speaker 1: What is it you love about it? The romance, the vampires.
Speaker 3: I think it's the darkness, it's the taboo again, it's
Speaker 3: the intensity. I think Robert Pattinson was a perfect Edward.
Speaker 3: I thought Kristen Stewart was wonderful as Bella. I just
Speaker 3: thought it's fun. It's beautiful to look at. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: know it's cheesy, but cheesy is fun, Jesus Like I
Speaker 3: loved it.
Speaker 2: The music, the choices.
Speaker 3: I cannot ever get enough of that film ever.
Speaker 1: And you like all of the sequels or the other parts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But for me, the best one was the first one.
Speaker 3: The other parts were fine, they were fine. I'll watch them.
Speaker 3: Harry Potter fanatic two. So but for me, I think Twilight.
Speaker 1: Now listen, We've discussed this earlier. We don't like to
Speaker 1: be negative, so you can say that you can use
Speaker 1: this to be constructive. What's the worst film you've ever seen?
Speaker 3: No, I'm not gonna be construct those. There's some shit
Speaker 3: movies out there for me, and there's I've seen a
Speaker 3: lot of them. But the only one I ever remember
Speaker 3: walking out of was a film called Highlander two. The
Speaker 3: quickening was that the sub that was the worst thing
Speaker 3: I've ever seen. I walked out it was so bad. Now,
Speaker 3: mind you, I don't think I ever saw Highlander, but
Speaker 3: Highlander two was.
Speaker 1: So well, you liked it. The iron The irony, of course,
Speaker 1: is that the tagline for Highlander one is that can
Speaker 1: be only one? And then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's the fucking that. That's where we start
Speaker 2: to go wrong is the fact that there.
Speaker 1: Was a number two? Is it? You're very funny comedy?
Speaker 1: What's the film that made you laugh the most? Okay,
Speaker 1: there's a lot.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of films, but I'm going to go
Speaker 3: for something that's not stand up because you know, all
Speaker 3: the Eddie Murphy films in my day were lit. Yes
Speaker 3: there was, but one of my favorite, besides Weird Science,
Speaker 3: which we already established. I think one of the films
Speaker 3: that made me laugh the most was another unsung hero.
Speaker 3: It's a movie called Galaxy Quest, and it's one of
Speaker 3: my favorite movies of all time. Perfect film, Thank you,
Speaker 3: perfect in every fucking way. If you're any kind of
Speaker 3: a geek like I am, where you played D and
Speaker 3: D or you know what it's like to play any
Speaker 3: kind of online role playing game, or have anybody in
Speaker 3: your life that is a nerd. My brother is a
Speaker 3: hard core nerd like I grew up with him being
Speaker 3: a dungeon master in my basement.
Speaker 1: And play with him these things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it is. And Galaxy Quest is that.
Speaker 3: And Sam Rockwell can do no fucking wrong. I love
Speaker 3: him so much, amazing.
Speaker 1: The whole cast is a sigourney like.
Speaker 3: The whole cast is brilliant, And it's another one that
Speaker 3: I can watch fifteen hundred times and I'll never turn
Speaker 3: it off. So I left my ass off every time
Speaker 3: I see it.
Speaker 1: That holds up. Did you see Fossy Vernon No the
Speaker 1: TV show?
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh Fossey Vernon, Yes you did.
Speaker 1: Of course. He was brilliant and she was brilliantrilliant, She
Speaker 1: was brilliant. That was one of the best things I
Speaker 1: see in it.
Speaker 2: Agreed, agreed, So well done.
Speaker 1: Michelle visas you have been as expected, an absolute delight. However,
Speaker 1: when you were one hundred and twenty four years old
Speaker 1: by a hacking, and you were his work as ever,
Speaker 1: and you were rushing about you just finished doing The
Speaker 1: Moon's Got Talent and you were rushing back to Earth
Speaker 1: to do your new album. And you finished your album
Speaker 1: and everyone's coming. You said, oh, thanks very much, I
Speaker 1: must run to another thing. And someone says to you,
Speaker 1: do you want to take a break? You've just done
Speaker 1: means Got Talent and a new pop album, and you
Speaker 1: go maybe, and you're you're you're rushing down the street
Speaker 1: and you stopped for a second and you look up
Speaker 1: at the stars and you spontaneously combust. Yeah, you explode
Speaker 1: on the spot because you stopped and you felt.
Speaker 3: Oh you want to say that, I felt like a
Speaker 3: heat searing and ripping through my body.
Speaker 1: I feel like it, yes, but it was quick. It
Speaker 1: was like, what's that? And then you exploded and people
Speaker 1: covered in bits of Miss Michelle visarts, which for a
Speaker 1: lot of people is their dream. So you made a
Speaker 1: lot of people happy. And I'm walking past with a coffin,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm like. And I see some just
Speaker 1: some eyelashes and glasses on the floor and people just
Speaker 1: covered and stuff, and they go, what does happen? They go,
Speaker 1: They go, Michelle Visas just exploded all over us. And
Speaker 1: they go, wow, I've seen I've seen her life. That's
Speaker 1: that's what it feels like. And they go, yeah, and
Speaker 1: now what are we doing? I go, well, we have
Speaker 1: to get her in the coffin. So I'm feeling bits
Speaker 1: of you off everyone you're putting.
Speaker 2: That's so nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah you're still you're back together. Yeah, no, I'm sort
Speaker 1: of a sort of ghostly figure that and I'll pack
Speaker 1: you in the coffin. But there's more of you than
Speaker 1: I was expecting because of all the gear all the right.
Speaker 1: There's so much stuff there. The coffin is full. There's
Speaker 1: no room in there. There is just enough rooms, jams,
Speaker 1: just enough room for me to slip a DVD into
Speaker 1: the side for you to take across to the other side.
Speaker 1: And on the other side, it's movie night every night.
Speaker 1: What film are you taking to show the terrifying animal
Speaker 1: people of heaven? When it is your movie night? Michelle
Speaker 1: Visage go we're.
Speaker 3: Watching show Girls. We are watching in heaven. Those animals
Speaker 3: are gonna love, know me, Malone. They are going to
Speaker 3: want to be in the production of Goddess.
Speaker 2: And it's no better film.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Imagine having to watch like a classic every single night
Speaker 3: of your life, like the same one.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. Although Rocky Horror would be really.
Speaker 1: Fun to bring up there too, That's fine, that would
Speaker 1: be fine, but you brother.
Speaker 3: I guys, my daughter, when she was eight or seven
Speaker 3: years old, she was obsessed with two movies, Rocky Horror
Speaker 3: Picture Show and The Ten Commitments, And I had to
Speaker 3: find a way to buy it on DVD from.
Speaker 1: eBay and yeah, we'll go ahead.
Speaker 3: I think she saw it on the tele and she
Speaker 3: became obsessed with it, and I had to track down
Speaker 3: a DVD copy of it that somebody burned on eBay
Speaker 3: and so she could watch it over and over, and
Speaker 3: then she'd watch we had a laser disc remember those
Speaker 3: of Rocky Horror, and she would watch over and over
Speaker 3: and over again.
Speaker 1: I'd love to see how she turned out with those two.
Speaker 1: There an interesting combination.
Speaker 3: She's a brilliant kid, and she's she's sassy and gorgeous
Speaker 3: and she gets it.
Speaker 1: She's very sharp, sassy, gorgeous and likes rules only not ten.
Speaker 1: Maybe she likes maybe two rules. Michelle, what a pleasure
Speaker 1: this has been. Would you like to tell people anything
Speaker 1: to listen for look out for watch with you coming up?
Speaker 1: Other than your new album. You know where to find me.
Speaker 3: I'm always in the ether somewhere doing something we love.
Speaker 3: RuPaul's drag Race Rupuls Drag Race down Under is starting
Speaker 3: soon on Stan in Australia. I'm the host and I
Speaker 3: still call it RuPaul's Drag Race even though it's call
Speaker 3: drag Race down at Her because it was my room.
Speaker 3: But it'll be me as the host now. That starts
Speaker 3: soon on Stan and Whole Presents Plus and Everything Else
Speaker 3: is new season of Drag Race UK is on BBC
Speaker 3: three right now and Wole Presents Plus and Hiplayer.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm around. Thank you for doing this, Thank
Speaker 1: you for your time. I've really enjoyed this, been very special.
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me, my darling. I hope you
Speaker 1: have a wonderful death. It was nice to see you
Speaker 1: and you. So that was episode three hundred and twenty one.
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Speaker 1: you're all well. I really appreciate you all listening. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much to Michelle for giving me her time,
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Speaker 1: Thanks to Buddy Peace for producing it. Thanks to iHeartMedia
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Speaker 1: Thanks to Adam Richardson for graphics and needs to Land
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Speaker 1: But that is it for now. Thank you all for listening.
Speaker 1: In the meantime, I hope you have a lovely week
Speaker 1: and please now more than ever, be excellent to each others.
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