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Speaker 1: on target, Seawan Lake in studio with us, founder of

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Speaker 1: Bub's Naturals. And I think the big thing to say

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Speaker 1: of course, is a very close personal friend of the

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Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's good good company when you

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Speaker 1: find a like minded adventurer in your young years. You

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Speaker 1: know there's there's a lot of trouble to be had

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Speaker 1: out there. And Sean and I were talking before the

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Speaker 1: live stream just about how we met, right, and we

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Speaker 1: But I mean he brought high school buddies from the

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Speaker 1: Boston area together, Navy Seal community together, ski bombs out

427
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 1: of Utah, San Diego, CrossFit junkies, I mean, you name it,

428
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 1: like such eclectic groups all pulled together, and that was

429
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 1: part of his power. So I'm inclined to say anyone

430
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 1: listening to this, if you'd ever met Glenn, you would

431
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 1: have said he was your best friend. That's that's amazing man.

432
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 1: And then you know, if you want to plug the foundation,

433
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 1: well yeah, yeah. So so we we're looking at this

434
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 1: and we're like, well, we have to do something on

435
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 1: a Glenn's memory And what was the one struggle that

436
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 1: Glenn had And a lot of guys getting out of

437
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 1: the teams or special forces have it's a transition to

438
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 1: civilian life. And this isn't something new, but it's not

439
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 1: talked about a lot. And Glenn fucking struggled with how

440
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,400
Speaker 1: to get out of the Navy, as you know, basically

441
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 1: you're a military rock star, and how do you go

442
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 1: from being on the field to off the field. Well,

443
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 1: contracting is a great band aid. You're gonna go from

444
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 1: making sixty dollars a year on a good year two

445
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: hundred fifty thousand dollars a year to work half a year. Man,

446
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 1: that signed me up, and you still get that adrenaline,

447
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 1: you get that fix, you get that action. And a

448
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 1: lot of guys turned to contracting, which you know, I

449
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 1: get it. The money is there, but the longevity of

450
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 1: that as a career move fades, and it fades quick.

451
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 1: I mean Glenn was forty two years old and we

452
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 1: were working out cross fitting, like beating the tar out

453
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 1: of each other just to like keep up with these

454
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 1: twenty year old young bucks at the gym, and I

455
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,880
Speaker 1: mean we hurt, and you know that was just part

456
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 1: of it, but we're just like, funk it. Let's go again,

457
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 1: and you know we were this is kind of a

458
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: segue to the bub stuff we'll talk about later, but

459
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: like we would literally be like, way protein, here's a

460
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,880
Speaker 1: little pre workout, here's some B C A S, here's

461
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 1: some hydration, here's some meta musical because you always need

462
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 1: your fiber. And we would, you know, we would literally

463
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: like run through all this stuff and trying to keep up.

464
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Speaker 1: But he knew there was an end date. He knew

465
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: he couldn't contract forever, and he kept saying, this is

466
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: my last deal, this is my last one. And he'd

467
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 1: finally gone through like four career opportunities and landed on

468
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 1: I'm going back to school in Utah. I'm gonna go

469
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Speaker 1: into a p A program Physicians assistant program. I'm just

470
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: curious for was there ever, because I got to meet

471
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Speaker 1: Glenn really shortly at Serious x M, you know, the

472
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: first time. I remember the New York trip. Yeah. Yeah,

473
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Speaker 1: But I'm just wondering how to curiosity. Was there ever

474
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Speaker 1: a discussion with him, because a lot of your friends

475
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: like Eric Davis went on to work with you right

476
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Speaker 1: for the site. Was there like a discussion of a

477
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 1: Glenn you want to write for software? No, Glenn, actually

478
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 1: I drug him into many failed endeavor and now the

479
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: first business, none of the first business that I did,

480
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 1: it would freaking failed miserably. But Glenn was there and

481
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 1: did he would come back and work with me, and

482
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: we had had the same conversations that you had with him,

483
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 1: like what is he gonna do now? Like? And I

484
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: was like, I remember before he left saying, look this

485
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: website I'm launched like it's got fire man, Like it

486
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: is taking off, and I want you to be a

487
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: part of it. And I just I mean I I

488
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 1: have so Glenn has influenced me in so many different

489
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 1: ways to like the planes and everything. But I just

490
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: thought he would be around to to be flying with

491
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: me and doing all this crazy stuff now. Um. But

492
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 1: he was just like looking at me like, oh man,

493
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:21,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm ready to sign up from

494
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: one of brands crazy adventures again after the last one.

495
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: I mean that that was it, um. But it was something,

496
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 1: you know, like Sean was talking about the transition. A

497
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 1: lot of guys struggle with that. I mean I struggled,

498
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: not as bad as you guys at the site talk

499
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: about it. I mean it's just it's it's what do

500
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: you want to do? I mean, and you're right. I

501
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: mean Glenn, Glenn followed Brandon into a couple of things

502
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: that didn't work well, and and then in soft Rep

503
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 1: was just in its in its infancy stage. And I

504
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: mean I think you got him to write like one

505
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: editorial piece and then I made him a writer, just

506
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: put him up on the website. And he was like,

507
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 1: god damn it, like I'm not a writer, you know.

508
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 1: But he you know, he he didn't know, and that

509
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: was part of that struggle. But then he was like

510
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: when he finally made up his mind, He's like, this

511
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: is what I can do. I like the hours. I

512
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: like that I can keep my recreation intact. You know.

513
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: That's what it was all about. Hard play hard. So

514
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 1: he was a neurosurgeon on that surf trip we all

515
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: took together and he's like, dude, I will hire you

516
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: an heart whatever it was. It was a lot of money. Yeah,

517
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: I mean this is six figure job and boys in

518
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 1: the medical field. And you know, Glenn was eighteen delta

519
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: and like he had that training and like Glenn inspired

520
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: that med kit we did for the Greek Club because

521
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: that was always complained and he built me one. Yeah,

522
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 1: that was his whole ideas like funk Man, like one

523
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: of his entrepreneurial ideas that he never saw realized was

524
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: building a medikit that the everyday person could use that

525
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 1: was fully functional and removes all the crap. And I

526
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 1: remember we would talk about all the useless ship in

527
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: most over the counters sold med kits that just pads

528
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: the pricing, and he's like, you can do this, you

529
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,959
Speaker 1: can do it right, And there was no such thing

530
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: as like a seal indoor product back then, like the

531
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: perfect push up didn't exist yet, right, So if he

532
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: had done that today, I think the market would obviously

533
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: be completely different and curated by a guy who's literally

534
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: been in a medic for you know, fucking seventeen eighteen years.

535
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: So who better to validate that product line? So when

536
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: when you did, it was like a you know, like

537
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: an homage to you know, and which is why it

538
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: made sense to have Chrisporanto be a part of it

539
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: because he was there with Gwen. Yeah, Chris was there

540
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: and also a lot of medical experience. But that has

541
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: been our most popular thing we've done in the premium correct.

542
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: I could see that. I could see that well, So

543
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: so you know, ben Ghazi goes down, The ship show

544
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: goes down, and you know, the dust isn't even beginning

545
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: to settle. But Kate's got this fire, and we sit

546
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: in her basement and we talked about launching a foundation,

547
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 1: and we immediately like it's like we're completing each other's sentences.

548
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: This has got to be about helping guys transition out

549
00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: of the military to civilian life, education, scholarships, self improvement,

550
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: Glenn Doherty one oh one, be better improve yourself. And

551
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: then we're like, well, what was the second thing that

552
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: Glenn stood for? After you work hard, play hard. So

553
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: we we carved out a piece of the mission for recreation.

554
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: We're like, hey, we don't know what this looks like,

555
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: but if we can help someone who's in need in

556
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: this community, let's help them. And if that means like

557
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,719
Speaker 1: taking the family to Disneyland, fuck it, let's be there

558
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: to be able to help them for that. So we

559
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: launched this this mission and the first year there was

560
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: this outpouring of support and you know, like a hundred

561
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: thousand people donated a dollar each or you know whatever.

562
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: That we made a couple hundred thousand dollars. We're like, oh, fuck,

563
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: what do we do with this, and we're like, we

564
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: don't know anything about running a foundation. So then it's like,

565
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: well we should get an endowment. And one of our buddies,

566
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 1: Tom Donahue, on the foundation, um, you know, he's he

567
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: works in finance, and we're like, well, we're doing a downment.

568
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: We're protecting the investment, we're protecting the money, and it

569
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: also regulates from how much we can do with it.

570
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, that's a great idea because we don't know

571
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: what we're doing yet, but we don't want to give

572
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: these scholarships out. Oh it turns out we can't actually

573
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 1: give out scholarships. We have to use a third party

574
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: vetting system to give out a scholarship. No problem, So

575
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: we we form a partnership with this group called scholars First,

576
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: and you know, then we're taking in applications forum Navy Seals,

577
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: the family of Navy Seals, and any branch of Special

578
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: Operations soldiers and we vet them through this third party

579
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: system and they're the ones who actually approved them, and

580
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: then we effect we can hand out checks to help

581
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,719
Speaker 1: them go back to school. It's an instant feel good thing,

582
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: but you know, it's everyone's part time job or you know,

583
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: we do it nights and weekends, but every year we

584
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: were able to give a little bit more. Well, two

585
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: thousand seventeen was the first year that we had more

586
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: applicants than we had money. And we're like, oh, ship,

587
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: like we've now helped you know, I think we were

588
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: up to twenty eight scholarships and we're like, we're like,

589
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: we're starting to feel like we're making a very small

590
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: but you know, an impact, Like people are they notice

591
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: that they're they're able to go back to school. We're

592
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: helping people, but we ran out of money. We have

593
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: the endowments who were protected, but we can only give

594
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: out X amount of scholarships. How do we solve for that?

595
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: We already run marathon's. We run the Boston Marathon, New

596
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: York Marathon. We're running a five k race, you know,

597
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: in Glenn's hometown, in our hometown, Winchester. But when we

598
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: do a bake sale, like you know, we're just we're

599
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: kind of hit the wall. And I remember, like it

600
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:25,959
Speaker 1: was in April last year, I was chasing a pal

601
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: storm and I went on and I did a podcast

602
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: with this guy, Evan and j T, the founders of

603
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: Black Rifle coffee and we talked about the same subject,

604
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: like the nonprofit world. And it was great because Evan

605
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: had served with Glenn, he knew him, you know, they

606
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: did the contract and stuff together, and we laughed and

607
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: told a couple of jokes about time with Glenn, and

608
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: it was kind of left as this open ended things

609
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: like how do you institutionalize giving? And I had that

610
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: takeaway and I come home from that trip and this

611
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: is the segue into bubbs um, my wife buys me

612
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: a tub of college and pep tides. Now you guys

613
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: don't know my wife, but well, Brandon, you know my wife.

614
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: She's fourteen years younger than me. And you know, man,

615
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: what's the math. We talked about half half your age

616
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: plus seven, gentlemen, and you guys on the rebound out there,

617
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: and you want to know what to do. This is math,

618
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: by the way, that Brandon does not necessarily adhere to.

619
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: Let's not talk about that. I remember when you said it,

620
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: I'm dating a millennial on the show, and people are like,

621
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: he half half your age plus seven, My wife is

622
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: technically a millennial, and and that that offers up some

623
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: some great dinner time conversation between the gen X and

624
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: A and a millennial maybe plus two am I plus two.

625
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: We're not. We're actually just gonna we're gonna take a

626
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: high road on this one. I'm gonna cut you some

627
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: slacker um. And uh So, anyways, my wife buys me

628
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: a tub of collagen protein and collegen peptides and I

629
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: come home and she's like, I'm like, what's this. She's like,

630
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: it's collagen. I want you to start taking it. I'm like, collagen,

631
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: that's a ship that porn stars used to shoot into

632
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: their lips. And she looks at me. She's like, I

633
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: don't even know what you're talking about. But all the

634
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: health nutrition bloggers, like all the chick stuff, they're all

635
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: saying it helps you with your hair, your skin, and

636
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: your nails. And I'm like, I don't care about any

637
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: of that. She's like muscle recovery and joint recovery. I'm like,

638
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: oh now you got Now I'm paying attention. She's like, hey, look,

639
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: you're not getting any younger and I need to preserve you.

640
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: And that was like the only takeaway I had was

641
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: you're not getting any younger. And I'm like, all right,

642
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: I got that. So I started taking it and I'm

643
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: just I just obey her. Like it was the same

644
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: thing with Glenn when he said take protein. I took protein.

645
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: When he said here's the go go choose. I would

646
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: you know, I would just follow the rules. I wasn't

647
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: asking any questions. I've never cared to, you know, peel

648
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: back the onion of fitness and look into what I

649
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: was specifically supposed to do. I just did it. It's

650
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: like my friend come all, he's like, you know, I

651
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: just he's friends with Tim Ferris, and he's like, I

652
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: just go and take a photo of Tim's covered and

653
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: just buy all the same stuff and take it. That's

654
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: basically yeah. So Heather buys me a tup of collagen.

655
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: I take it for about a month, and literally a

656
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: month into it, I'm like, holy shit, nails are growing

657
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: like crazy. Now. This is a weird observation because like

658
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: I clipped my finger nails like every couple of weeks,

659
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: and I was clipping them every fucking week, and now

660
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: anyone who clips your fingers and I was like, it's

661
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: just one of those irritating chores. You do it because

662
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: you have to. It's not like, you know, like something

663
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: you're stoked on. But I was like, this is the

664
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: first time I've ever taken a supplement where I can

665
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: physically see the results. Well, the next month, we go

666
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: to a wedding and I need to get a haircut,

667
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: and I get a haircut. We come home and I'm like, man,

668
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: I just got a haircut. And I looked back because

669
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: I was curious and like, I just got a haircut

670
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: six weeks ago, and I just needed another one. That's

671
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,479
Speaker 1: never happened. So I'm like, data point number two hair nails.

672
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: What the funk? Like this stuff really works. The third

673
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: month was wild because that was when the recovery kicked in.

674
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: That's when I was like, oh my god. Like I

675
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: went to Boston with with Heather and my sister. My

676
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: sister is a gazelle and Heather's a gazelle. They run

677
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: all the time. We ran five to seven miles seven

678
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: days straight, like just for a week straight. Every day

679
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: we get out in the morning and run, and I

680
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: was ready to be crippled by it, Like I I'm

681
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: okay in the gym stuff, but if I'm gonna log

682
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: those kind of miles, I'm gonna suffer. And I bounced

683
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: up every morning out of bed I'm like, let's go.

684
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: Let's go every day. And by the end of it,

685
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I'm completely sold on this. So

686
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: around this time, my buddy comes over and we've been

687
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: pitching a couple of work projects. This guy t J

688
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: Ferrara and and he's like your e commerce guy. He's

689
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: the ninja in the back room on e commerce and

690
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: and we're buddies. We lived together and you know, like

691
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: work out together. And we were pitching a couple of

692
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: work projects and he sees the type of college and

693
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: on the counter and he's like, holy sh it, you

694
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: take this stuff. And I'm like, dude, it works. And

695
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: he's like, I know it works. I'm like, you take

696
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: it too. He's like he's like, no, I don't really

697
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: take it because he's a millennial and so you know whatever,

698
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: and uh and and he's like, I've been watching this

699
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: on some e commerce platforms. This is a growth industry.

700
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: It's being written about in a lot of health magazines

701
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: and blogs. And he's like, this is you know, this

702
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: is an emerging company. Uh. The the particular brand that

703
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: was on the counter, and he's like, you know, I've

704
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: always wanted to start a company I'm like, yeah, let's

705
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: talk about this. So we just nap can map out,

706
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: just shooting the ship over coffee, what would it look

707
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: like to start a supplement brand? And almost immediately we're

708
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: talking and we look at each other and we say,

709
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: we've got to do something for charity. And I'm like, well,

710
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: I know what charity. Obviously it's going to be Glen's

711
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 1: Foundation and he's like, yeah, Glen's Foundation. I'm like, well,

712
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: what do the best companies in charity do? And we

713
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: look at like Patagonia looks like about one percent of

714
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: net sales go to go to charity. I'm like, that's

715
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. Tom's Shoes they have their one for

716
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: one shoe program and I'm like Tom's Shoes, I'm like, well,

717
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: I know that a pair of shoes that's going to Africa,

718
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: are going to wherever the hell they're going to, don't

719
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: cost very much money, so it's a We've mapped it

720
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: up to be about the one same one percent of

721
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: net going there. And I'm like, what if we just

722
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: completely flipped this model on its head. What if we

723
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: did ten percent of every sale of every product directly

724
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: to charity. That's awesome, man, it's great when companies can

725
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: do that too. I mean, you were taught me with soccer.

726
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: But we have some stuff going on that that you've

727
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 1: been up to, right well that I mean we donated

728
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 1: to uh. I was talking to show on this morning

729
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: about the team Rubicon for the hurricane relief. You know,

730
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: we but but it's in our core values to give back.

731
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: Um And I told you, but like, I mean, how

732
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: much money did you give to those guys? I mean,

733
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: I mean it was I think five grand we we gave,

734
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: but I mean that's five thousand dollars that like has

735
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: a massive impact for that community, and it's unsolicited and

736
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, someone just gets a check for

737
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 1: five grand. I mean it means a lot to them

738
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: and it does a lot the um. I mean last year,

739
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: I think we gave thirty grand cash plus media you know,

740
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: and we gave Rubicon meted to it did a lot

741
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: of editorial stuff. But I mean when I when we

742
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: started to have a lot of growth, I wrote it

743
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: into our core values, like we give back. And this

744
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: year I told you and everyone in the company gets

745
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: to pick a charity and we're going to donate on

746
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: to that charity. On that person is behalf. So I

747
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: mean that's it's uh yeah, I'm all about running a

748
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: profitable enterprise with the ridiculous margin as I can grab.

749
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you can't hate you for that. Yeah,

750
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: I mean, and you know, and I see this a

751
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: lot of the millennial entrepreneurs doing this social enterprises, which

752
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: is great, but it's like, we have a social enterprise

753
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: to like, it's important to give back to the same

754
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: community that gave me everything that I have today. So

755
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: which I and tracking the the the companies, like you said,

756
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: there there are a few that do really good stuff,

757
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: but and then there are a lot of them, especially

758
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: in the military space, to kind of you know, yeah,

759
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: that's really not it's more of a marketing gimmick. It's

760
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: not giving back in a meaningful way. And that's what

761
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: you know when you and I were talking about Bubs

762
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: in San Diego, I mean, that's the solid commitment. You know.

763
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 1: Well it was as we kind of like, it's funny

764
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 1: we backfilled the company to the cause, and it was like, hey,

765
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: you take college and it works, Okay, so there's proof here.

766
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: Well it funny how it all it all came together

767
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: literally like lightning striking because I just on that podcast,

768
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: you know, I'd had the experience with college and it

769
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: was everything was kind of swirling around. And then you know,

770
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, we got to give the money to

771
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 1: Glen's Foundation. And then it was like, well, how much

772
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: ten percent of every sale? Can you even do that? Like,

773
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: we didn't even think you could get a company off

774
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: the ground with that kind of math. And we're like,

775
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: start doing the crunching the numbers. But while we're doing that,

776
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you know, bub was Glenn's call sign

777
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: in the Navy, So the company just named itself like

778
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: this all just happened. Boom boom boom, Like ten percent

779
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: to charity Glenn's Foundation, we gotta call it Bubb's. And

780
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: just like that, we're off and running and we're like

781
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: we don't even know if we can do this, but

782
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna do it. And you know, the packaging is awesome, dude.

783
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean you can just the good old USA,

784
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: and the branding is spot on, dude. And also just

785
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: it's it's great to know that there's someone using proven science.

786
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: I mean, there's like a million protein powders out there

787
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: and no one knows what the funk they're buying. Um,

788
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: if you've ever seen any documentaries in the whole industry,

789
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: it's like completely unregulated. So there's people putting all these

790
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: proprietary blends of nonsense in there, and it has like

791
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: a fraction of whatever you really need in the product. Dude,

792
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: it's a wild West out there. I mean, I mean,

793
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: I mean for anyone out there is listening to this, Like, Okay,

794
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: I get the glen thing, and I don't know what

795
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: the fun collagen is. All it is is hydrolyzed boiled

796
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: down cow hide joints cow hide like like think about

797
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: it's connective tissue, and everything that it helps with is

798
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: connective tissue, Like it helps with your knees, it helps

799
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: with your muscle, helps with your skin, it helps helps

800
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: with your hair, and you're like all of that stuff

801
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: for me, from like a sports recovery standpoint, makes perfect sense.

802
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: And one ingredient. There's no flavors. There's no like mystery ship.

803
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: I can't pronounce. It's just boiled cow The flavor so

804
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: is un flavored, which I actually like because I have

805
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: you know, where's your where's your cup? I just have

806
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: a couple of water right here, Are you're gonna throw

807
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: up some Yeah, you're you're you just became a test

808
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: monkey on this one. But I was gonna say. The

809
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: cool thing is that if it is on flavored, is

810
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: how you can mix it with stuff, because ILL sometimes

811
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: mix like bananas, oatmeal. Blend that all together on your

812
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: cheerios if you wanted to boom. Just like that. We're

813
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: not even mixing this and it'll take care of itself.

814
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: But just like that, we're doing a whole demonstration here.

815
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: It's gonna come back tomorrow like ten ten pounds jacked

816
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: up show that, Yeah, we're actually doing this. I usually

817
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: it's whiskey, but go ahead, but well, you know, it's funny.

818
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: People on the on the Facebook Live are like Brandon

819
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: always ends every show with a shot. Is he going

820
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: to do that? Because I saw people asking that I'll

821
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: take a shot with Sean. So I think we've pretty

822
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: much fun to wear our workout today. So yeah, it's

823
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: say it's it's pretty much on transition to whiskey at

824
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: this point. It's great, man, So this is I mean,

825
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: it's flavor. So you get like this little, this little

826
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: hint of something being there. But I put in my

827
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: coffee every morning because you can stand the heat. It's

828
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: it's it's cold. It's not like a you know, a

829
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: chemical concoction. It's because usually these protein patterns like it

830
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: tastes very fake. It just it just tastes very hard.

831
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: When you see something, say strawberry vanilla, I promise you

832
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: it's not organic strawberries and vanilla. But you know, the

833
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: bottom line is we've figured out a way to do it.

834
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: We source the best possible collagen in the country. It

835
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: all had to map, you know, match up to Glenn's

836
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: ideals like this kind of the standard that we had,

837
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 1: and you know, I want to make sure the braining

838
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: was on point. And this all represents different parts of

839
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: his life. So I mean, in a nutshell, this is

840
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: a tribute as much as anything. And this is the

841
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: first protein I could just like put in water and

842
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: it's yeah, good to go. Yeah that's I don't think

843
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: you're gonna be taking this one home. I think this

844
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: is going to be in the office for a while.

845
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: So it's you work out in the city. I work

846
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Speaker 1: out like at home on Long Island. So he's you know,

847
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Speaker 1: I've worked out with Brandon and he's pretty tense. So yeah,

848
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Speaker 1: I used to take the sales guys to work out.

849
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Speaker 1: Always fun, always, and then they're like, we don't want

850
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Speaker 1: to have a meeting with you because you're going to

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Speaker 1: take us to the gym for first Well I've worked

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Speaker 1: out with you just like a couple of times, because

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Speaker 1: you know, it's just we're in different areas, so am

854
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Speaker 1: I I just have to ask them. I able to

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Speaker 1: keep up better than they? That's what you did? The

856
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Speaker 1: deck of cards workout? Right? Yeah? I did? I think

857
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Speaker 1: you did at a certain and I'm not gonna lie.

858
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Speaker 1: He topped up, but he sucked it up. I'll give

859
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Speaker 1: you credit. But hey, the deck of cards. The problem

860
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Speaker 1: is this, I'll say, you guys wanted to take your shot. No,

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Speaker 1: here's the bub absolutely abu awesome man um. Yeah the

862
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Speaker 1: deck of cards. Now, I was probably more of a sipper,

863
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Speaker 1: so I'm gonna need to get a refill. Go for it. Man,

864
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Speaker 1: I just knocked it all back. I didn't realize what

865
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Speaker 1: we were. We're putting down the look over and saw

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Speaker 1: the Japanese harmony there. People were asking about what it

867
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Speaker 1: is yet Japanese a biky um but oh so the

868
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: deck of cards thing though, I think I'm used to

869
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Speaker 1: doing like afect form push ups and you'll bang out

870
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Speaker 1: like ten twenty. When you're doing the deck of cards,

871
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Speaker 1: you really cannot do perfect form push ups because you're

872
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Speaker 1: going to be done pretty quickly and just gotta do

873
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Speaker 1: them fast. We're doing man push ups, so it was

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Speaker 1: a man chest, a deck arms, a full lockout, no

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Speaker 1: hinging at the hips hole to standard, but doing an

876
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Speaker 1: entire deck of card and he's like, I remember, He's like,

877
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Speaker 1: how far are we going? I'm like, the whole fucking deck, man.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you run the numbers and I think it's something, uh,

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Speaker 1: what do you do like eighties seven reps per movement? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's hundred reps per movements something like. I'm

881
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Speaker 1: no mathematician, as you can, and I think it's it's

882
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Speaker 1: over five hundred push ups depending on what you make

883
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Speaker 1: the ace so the jokers, but it's it's a ball buster,

884
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Speaker 1: so you just do them all push ups. Yeah, we're

885
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Speaker 1: doing them all push ups, so Jesus fucking bam bam.

886
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Speaker 1: And he needs to get crushed by like three face

887
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 1: cards in a row. You know you can do other movements, yeah,

888
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: but we just did straight bang it out push ups

889
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: and he was just like, yeah, it was pretty sore.

890
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Speaker 1: For days. I did to do with my buddy Mike,

891
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Speaker 1: who's eco has a show called um Real Food with

892
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Speaker 1: col Me Echo cool dude us to be a pro

893
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: boxer turned chef and now it's a food show. But

894
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Speaker 1: I know we're running shorty, and so we want to

895
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Speaker 1: get to a couple of Yeah. Well, I was just

896
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Speaker 1: gonna say it. It was a funny thing to like

897
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Speaker 1: fun fact for the audience. That's where I decided were

898
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Speaker 1: you pitched to me coming on soccer at full time?

899
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Speaker 1: I was like to do a deck of cards and hey,

900
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 1: do you want to work with us full time? That

901
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: was your vetting process to yeah, you didn't completely puts

902
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Speaker 1: out well, so I mean, yeah, I know that you

903
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Speaker 1: guys got to run. I guess do you want to

904
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: get to emails? I was like, we should we get

905
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: to this another time. We got okay, and I should

906
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: throw out there. I was gonna mention it at the

907
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: top of the show, but like these stories are too

908
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: captivating to him to drop do honestly is for those

909
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: who don't know, We're back to doing the show free

910
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: on Apple podcast, two shows a week, the response has

911
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: been overwhelming. The only question I've been getting is they're like,

912
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,280
Speaker 1: what about the back episodes? Where are they gonna You're

913
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: not gonna go on SoundCloud, but they'll be on softwarep

914
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Speaker 1: dot com. They're not there yet. I'm still like Cordare

915
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: and then you know, we did that really good show

916
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: with Marcus Latrell, but but people are asking why where

917
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: is it now? I'm still coming in with Chris our

918
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: web guys, so they'll be there. But yeah, Marcus latrelle, Um,

919
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Speaker 1: Drago Drago, Mike Ritland, which people are asking all about,

920
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: and all these emails buzz buzz, all drin there. There's

921
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: a ton of them. Um. This is the you know,

922
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Speaker 1: if we're gonna get to one email, this is listen

923
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Speaker 1: to one to get to and then we'll take a

924
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: couple of things in here. From Brian Crane, thanks again

925
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: for another kick ass podcast. I love how you guys

926
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Speaker 1: covered music so in depth, which we did with the

927
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Speaker 1: odissean Uh. Music, love, and religion are the three most

928
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: powerful forces on Earth. They have the power to move

929
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Speaker 1: entire generations of people. You can be in a bad

930
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Speaker 1: mood and listen to the right song and being a

931
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: good mood. You can be in a good mood and

932
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Speaker 1: listen to the wrong song that mood to interrupt you.

933
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Speaker 1: I would add one thing and it starts with a

934
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Speaker 1: And I watched the game A Game of Thrones fans,

935
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Speaker 1: I'm not actually I didn't have I lost my my

936
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Speaker 1: time with again. I owe like a week straight of

937
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: getting caught up on all that. It's amazing. Man. So

938
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: but this guy is standing on this massive battle about

939
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 1: to be overrun, and and they're having this conversation about women,

940
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: and it was like, I did this for a woman.

941
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: I did that for a woman. It was basically money power.

942
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: Everything was all revolved around men in the pursuit of women,

943
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: which we could say use another name for but yeah,

944
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: that's it. I mean, that's a powerful force of nature.

945
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: You keep emphasizing the people can fill in the blank.

946
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: And I know my female fans are gonna give me

947
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: a ration of ship for this. But yeah, have you

948
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 1: ever see on the Power of Thoughts YouTube where people

949
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: when you end up talking about woman people calling it

950
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: the power of thought. I've seen that in the comments

951
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: and it's just like people breaking balls. So yeah, anyway,

952
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: you could be in a good mood, listen to the

953
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: wrong song being a bad with very true powerful stuff.

954
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: You guys rock And then this is the big part.

955
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: This podcast changed my life. I was fresh out of

956
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: the military and had no idea what I was going

957
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: to do in life afterwards and maintain my sense of purpose.

958
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: I heard an interview with Mike Ritland and I've been

959
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: training dogs and following this company ever since. Kudos again

960
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: and keep the pace up. It's been amazing to watch

961
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: this change and morph into what it is now. That's

962
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: from Brian. I thought that was super powerful. Um, I'm

963
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: gonna see we have any questions here because I've been

964
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: glancing and people are like, Hey, are you guys gonna

965
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: interact with us? Um? How does soffer Up not have

966
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: a whiskey sponsor at this point? Um? What well, Bub's

967
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: whiskey coming soon? Give us to like two thou to

968
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: figure out how to do that. It'll probably taste like gasoline,

969
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 1: but you know, count Janet Brooks says Brandon. I think

970
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: you should write about Glenn and only Glenn. Love to

971
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: read more about him. Among heroes I love but wanted

972
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: more Glenn, Um, Dave Pierce, Gwen Sound. It's like a

973
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: national treasure and beyond a great friend. Thanks for sharing.

974
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: Makes me even more bitter about the Benghazi fiasc fiasco.

975
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: And then people are just you know, is that Brandon Webther.

976
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: They're shocked that you're making sight because they're like, I

977
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: haven't seen you in a month or something. It isn't me,

978
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: it's not a virtual. Those of you have seen the

979
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: movie Blade Runner, which I don't know if you're a

980
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 1: fan of the original, dude, the follow up crushed it,

981
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: like so good man, like I would watch it was

982
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: three hours long. I think I would have watched it

983
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: over again on the spot right there. Epic show. But

984
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: they had this, um you know, speaking of the power

985
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: of women. They had this basically Sean Young was in it.

986
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 1: He had this girlfriend on a thumbstick right like boom

987
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: popped up. And it's just like I'm like, man, I

988
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 1: want one of them. I want one of those that

989
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: I just want to know if you could be Sean

990
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: Young from there just transported in. But the Blade those

991
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 1: of you haven't seen Blade Runner, the two nine, it

992
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: is epic. Yeahn Zimmer score heavy, like just chest pounding

993
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: score and just the dude, it was fucking awesome. It's

994
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 1: on the shore oft time I tried having Heather watched

995
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: the original Blade Runner and I'm like, fucking Rutger Howard's

996
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: gonna just funck this whole world up. And I'm like,

997
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: I can't wait. And they were five minutes in the

998
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: movie and she's pregnant. Yeah, yes, you know where this goes.

999
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: We turned the movie off and went to back to

1000
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: be continued. Dude, you have to see the follow up. Man,

1001
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: It's probably one of the best movies I've seen this year,

1002
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: hands down. I like it. Then I also see Mike Norwood.

1003
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: I ran out of whiskey last night. What's a good

1004
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 1: brand of Japanese whiskey to get? I know you want Becky.

1005
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: I think a Beeky is is is one of the

1006
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 1: best out there. Harmony, which is not an aged whiskey,

1007
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: but it's good. It's just a great whiskey, right out

1008
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: of the right out of the bottle. But our friend

1009
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: Phil compy AND's asking where it's Drago. Drago is coming back.

1010
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: We got to drag him out of the drag him

1011
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: out of the closet. Basically, yeah, he's coming. I've had

1012
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 1: a couple of conversations with Drago. He's coming back, and

1013
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: I'll see Phil in London November eleventh when we're bringing

1014
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,439
Speaker 1: over US boxing team to kick some British ass. Oh yeah,

1015
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: I will actually not be there. I'll be at will

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Speaker 1: Cows thing in Eminal Looney's. I saw the T shirt

1017
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: he put out for that, which looks so that'll be

1018
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: on Veterans Day for those of you in New York.

1019
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: But remember rumble To for the fans were We're streaming

1020
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Speaker 1: that live on Software Remembrance rumbled To Saturday, November eleventh,

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00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: live from your Hall, East London. Well, um, and in

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00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: all fairness like those guys, the hosts over there are amazing.

1023
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 1: Phil and the boys just put on an amazing event.

1024
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: And I couldn't believe it. Man. There was a cue

1025
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: a kilometer long around the block to get into this place,

1026
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: sold out event, people begging for tickets, chanting songs and

1027
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: the thing. I was like blown away. Man, it was home.

1028
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: It felt a little uh like we were definitely not

1029
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: on home turf. But just remember we're coming over the Americans,

1030
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: the original Brexit. You know we're gonna We're gonna come

1031
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: over there and and put on a good fight. Phil says, yeah, baby,

1032
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: are are two Um we're getting a lot of the

1033
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: I saw on YouTube the questions of like how do

1034
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: I become an acal? We'll avoid those. I'll get through

1035
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: this one last one because this was a good question

1036
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 1: actually to the recruiter and signed on the dotted line. Yeah,

1037
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,439
Speaker 1: I'll drive you down there. This is a good question

1038
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: for you. Um, would bobs be good to take even

1039
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: if you aren't working out and are recovering from back

1040
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: surgery from about two years ago? Good question? Yeah, I

1041
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: mean that's that's actually the beauty. But I was talking

1042
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: with the nutritionist, um was it two days ago, and

1043
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: I was saying, hey, I'm looking to grab some recipes

1044
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: and how you integrate this with your client base, And

1045
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 1: she said, well, right now, I'm using it every day

1046
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Speaker 1: in my daughter's cereal. She's a teenager and she broke

1047
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,720
Speaker 1: her wrist and I'm using it to help mend the bones.

1048
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, I hadn't really thought of that. I've

1049
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: always thought of it as more of a maintenance, like

1050
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: for exercise and wellness, and she's, no, the healing properties

1051
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: are really how I apply it. She's like, with my clients,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a combination of the gut health, and the

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Speaker 1: collagen is. It's a connection of all of those those tissues.

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Speaker 1: So to to you know, whoever posted that question, you know,

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Speaker 1: two scoops a day. I start with one scoopid and

1058
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Speaker 1: kind of ramped up, and you know it, it's the

1059
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Speaker 1: first time I can look, you know, look at anyone

1060
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Speaker 1: like this fucking works. Um, So yeah, give it a

1061
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1065
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1066
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Speaker 1: talking about Bubbs because we're the only brand in any

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Speaker 1: out with a ten percent give back to charity. And

1069
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Speaker 1: that's that's obviously where we're hanging our life. That's that's

1070
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: not something bullshit once a year promo like it is

1071
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Speaker 1: written into the fabric of the company. So and I

1072
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Speaker 1: think that's pretty special. So go buy Bubbs for sure.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go when Ian's got this stuff,

1074
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: but I gotta get mine. I guess that. Yeah, I

1075
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: can attach to the fact that it really it doesn't

1076
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: taste like anything, which is good. Well that's you know

1077
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: what I mean. You don't want something that has this

1078
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: artificial taste, It's great. I chug that thing right down. Yeah.

1079
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: I mean, for me, it's just it's part of the

1080
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Speaker 1: daily routine. It's just put a scoop in my coffee,

1081
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: go put a scoop in my you know, in my

1082
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: smoothie or a glass of juice. And I don't really

1083
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: taste it. I can get a little hint of it

1084
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: and put it in and the hint tastes good, so

1085
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah. And I mean it's and it's

1086
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Speaker 1: one ingredient. So it's like when you go out looking

1087
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Speaker 1: for stuff and you're like, wait a second, this is

1088
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Speaker 1: non GMO, it's it's gluten free, it's halal, you know, certified,

1089
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Speaker 1: it's got every one of the checks that you want,

1090
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 1: pasture raised, grass fed, and you're like, oh, well, all right,

1091
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Speaker 1: this has been presourced and curated to be the absolute

1092
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Speaker 1: best in quality. You saw how aluble it is. Dissolved

1093
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: round the water, and then the health benefits to speak

1094
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 1: for themselves. I mean, the only thing is, yeah, it

1095
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: took me a couple of weeks before I saw the results,

1096
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,919
Speaker 1: but I've never seen results periods. That's like anything that's

1097
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: gonna work is gonna take a while. It's just like

1098
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Speaker 1: doing your first couple of push ups. You've got to

1099
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Speaker 1: do a couple of them before you start seeing the results,

1100
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Speaker 1: and you know, once you get into the routine, it's

1101
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Speaker 1: just becomes part of the routine. It's like wake up

1102
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Speaker 1: in the morning, you take a ship. Just so happens

1103
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Speaker 1: after a while with this is trying to take a

1104
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Speaker 1: really good ship. He calls it the ghost away. So

1105
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: out of benefit, I know that you guys have to

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Speaker 1: run um. So the last thing I was gonna say,

1107
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this as we record, and we

1108
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: haven't done a throat punch for the Week recently, but

1109
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: I kind of want to give a double throat punch

1110
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: because we already did it, but to Drew Murray, the

1111
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: guy who completely plagiarized Jack Murphy's piece from a job. Yeah,

1112
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: and by the way, we sent a letter to the

1113
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: one of the executives at the chive and then this

1114
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: guy wrote this bullshit response to Jack and then it

1115
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: wasn't played your Yeah, no, we're and we're doing a

1116
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: whole series on plagiarism because Jack and the guys do

1117
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: such good work and we're tracked by all the journalists

1118
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: like we know the usual suspects. We we broke that

1119
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: Niger story about the ambush, and these guys are all

1120
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: kind of like grabbing what they do and writing around

1121
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: it as if it's their own. We think the people

1122
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: were just like, could we take your article con attacking Derek. Yeah, yeah,

1123
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Speaker 1: they wanted to one of the big I could say it. Yes,

1124
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: The Daily Beach just wanted to take it and just

1125
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Speaker 1: read give credit, give credit, what credits do? Yeah, well

1126
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: that's the problem. They don't want to give credit. They

1127
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: want to they want to repurpose it as their thing.

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Speaker 1: They have wanted to give credit, but at the end

1129
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Speaker 1: of the day, it's like it's driving people away from

1130
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: our site. So I know the value if we're breaking

1131
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: that's a tough one, right because now you're in the

1132
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: opportunity to share your information and possibly gain a broader audience.

1133
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: Because The Daily Beast speaks to a totally different demographic.

1134
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: Maybe those people are gonna learn about software can be like, well,

1135
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: I can skip the daily be East and come over

1136
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: to you guys. This guy plagiarized Jack Jack, Jack called

1137
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: him already changed his name on the article and move

1138
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: stuff around like to yeah, this is switching back to

1139
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 1: this yeah, not not to be at the tribe and

1140
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: this guy just wrote this bullshit answer and Jack and

1141
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: I you know what, Look, I'm I hate litigation. Yeah,

1142
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: I could go after because the tribe ran a took

1143
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: our content, ran a sponsored pose, like to drive revenue

1144
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: I think for NBC show using our content. I'm like,

1145
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: you know what, let's just write a piece on plagiarism

1146
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: and call this guy out like for what it did

1147
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: and and put his name in the bright lights like

1148
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: you want to do that or here you go. Um,

1149
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: but anyway, he drew a sword by choosing to do that,

1150
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 1: So throw a punch of the week or guy drew

1151
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Speaker 1: and I hope I see you in the city drew up.

1152
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Speaker 1: the first week of December. I think it's the it's

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Speaker 1: the Thursday, maybe the second week. We're doing a Craig Club.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, that's the whiskey. Come up, we're doing that

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Speaker 1: Craig Club. You know what's funny with the whiskey to

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Speaker 1: interrupt him, Sorry, but how funny is it? Jason Rale

1201
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Speaker 1: literally just brought this thing in and it's just the

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Speaker 1: cheers of Jason um and thank you Jason right, the

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Speaker 1: guitarist and breaking benament. That was his gift to Brandon. Yeah,

1204
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: it didn't last too long, but it was well well purposed.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't help when you guys from Big Mountain Heroes

1206
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Speaker 1: coming here. Yeah, but we're doing a E. D C.

1207
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Speaker 1: Street and street fighting class with Jim West at Emmetta

1208
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: Luney's for Craig Club members only. It's a members only

1209
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Speaker 1: two hour street fighting class with Jim West, who literally

1210
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 1: is like paralyzed some dude with his bare hands. That

1211
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Speaker 1: guys like the real deal, Like you don't, guys, I think,

1212
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how old the gym is,

1213
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: but I would not want to funk with this guy.

1214
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: Like you. Every time I see Jim, I think of

1215
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: mice and men and and that guy Lenny, except an

1216
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: intelligent man. Yeah. I don't want to make the comparison,

1217
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: but he's just got that retard strength and you just

1218
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: do not want to funk with this guy. But Jim,

1219
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: if you're gonna learn street fighting from Jim, like this

1220
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Speaker 1: is the grandfather of mixed martial arts and street fighting.

1221
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: And Jim is a great dude. Man. I just went

1222
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: to Jack's wedding and what do you think? I thought

1223
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: it was cool, man, It was heartfelt, Yeah, a little

1224
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: a little long, but Jim was He's a great guy. Man.

1225
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Speaker 1: I have nothing but love that guy. And and uh,

1226
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Speaker 1: it was just funny because I talked about it in

1227
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Speaker 1: the last show. Half these people are Italian, they don't

1228
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Speaker 1: even speak English. They're like, who's this giant man given

1229
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: this thirty minute speech? Best man's speech kept trying to

1230
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Speaker 1: applaud him off the stage to at the wed and

1231
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Speaker 1: he just kept powering that. He kept powering through it. Yeah,

1232
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Speaker 1: you know what's with him? And then I think, yeah

1233
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Speaker 1: it was Richard. At my table, someone was asking who

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Speaker 1: he was and he was like, this man has been

1235
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Speaker 1: in three hundred street fights. Yeah, he was like more

1236
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Speaker 1: than that. I think I don't even know the number club.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a Thursday, um but anywe're gonna put

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Speaker 1: it out on the email list for all the Craig

1239
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Speaker 1: Club members. But badass fight class and then we're having

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Speaker 1: a whiskey sponsor and cigars, so you know, in the

1241
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: age of you know, manhood suppression, we're going to celebrate

1242
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Speaker 1: being a fucking man at Amado Luneys in Times Square

1243
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Speaker 1: and Jim is going to give that fight class and

1244
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: it's a Craig Club exclusive events. So that's part of

1245
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Speaker 1: what we're doing with the club is it's a community

1246
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Speaker 1: as well. It's cool that it's said Amadolney is too

1247
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Speaker 1: instead of a dojo because it's like true street front fighting.

1248
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Speaker 1: That that's a pretty cool incentive. So create club dot us.

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Speaker 1: Sean has been awesome. These stories are incredible. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I've heard so much about Gwen, but it's great to

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Speaker 1: hear from a guy's close to him as you don't

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Speaker 1: you know, based on these stories, I don't think there

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Speaker 1: is anyone who I'm getting I'm getting, So we kept

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Speaker 1: him pretty pg for the audience, but he's told some

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Speaker 1: good adventure out there. He's told some X rated ones

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Speaker 1: on the show, I mean on the Thailand maybe. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's usually the one that pops up front of mine.

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Speaker 1: So Sean was awesome. Founder Abub's Naturals bubs Naturals dot com,

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Speaker 1: at Bub's Naturals on Twitter and Instagram. We should put

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Speaker 1: out like a coupon code for software listeners or something,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know. Comment no, actually, and it's comming.

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Speaker 1: We gotta we got that, and uh, the Creig Club

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Speaker 1: we got a special offer for the Creig Club guys too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so actually, yeah, you know, when you if you're subscribing

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Speaker 1: to the Create Club this month, we we threw an

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Speaker 1: insert in there kind of talking about the benefits of

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Speaker 1: college and why you would use it and why you

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Speaker 1: should be using it. And then there's a little something

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Speaker 1: something in there too to help get people to, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, give it a whirl. And um, obviously you know,

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Speaker 1: just know that every time you're buying it, you're you're

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Speaker 1: helping others. So it's kind of a help yourself because

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Speaker 1: you're going to see improvements in your health, and every

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Speaker 1: time you do, you're helping someone else's and Shawn's in

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Speaker 1: pretty damn good shape. You're not some guy who comes

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Speaker 1: in here like and talking about a supplement like you

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Speaker 1: can see it works. You got a fourteen year gap

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Speaker 1: in between you and your wife. You're gonna do a

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Speaker 1: couple of push ups to make sure you're keeping it fresh.

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Speaker 1: I love it, man, all right? Well with that? Follow

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Speaker 1: us on Twitter and Instagram at soft Rep Radio. UM.

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you guys are enjoying all the

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Speaker 1: content and that we're keeping it free. But please still

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Speaker 1: subscribe to the website as a team room member UM

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Speaker 1: leave us a new review on Apple Podcasts five star

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Speaker 1: review goes really help us out. Want to loose those

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Speaker 1: rankings up. So awesome, guys, and I think that sums

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Speaker 1: it up. It's been a great show. You originally said

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Speaker 1: we're doing this quickly, but I think for your file

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Speaker 1: we went way over time. A couple of glasses of whiskey,

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Speaker 1: you know, anyways, says lot front of you, guys. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. You've been listening to soulf Red Radio a

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