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Speaker 1: Let me start by saying this.

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Speaker 2: I think it's pretty clear now we can all agree

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Speaker 2: that the government institutions, the DOJ, the FBI, that we're

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Speaker 2: supposed to trust have zero credibility after what we have

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Speaker 2: learned from the whistleblowers this past week and the Hunter Biden,

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Speaker 2: James Biden, and Joe Biden, as well as the other

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Speaker 2: nine Biden family members corruption scheme.

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Speaker 1: That's what I can say, number one.

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Speaker 2: Number two, what we also know is that our government

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Speaker 2: institutions lied to us after the Hunter Biden laptop story broke.

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Speaker 2: They lied to us about its authenticity. They lied to

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Speaker 2: us about censorship, They lied to us about meeting with

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Speaker 2: big tech to sense of the story.

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Speaker 1: They lied to us on all of this. It's shocking.

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Speaker 2: It's surreal now you look at the censorship that we've

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Speaker 2: just learned about about the censorship of the Hunter Biden

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Speaker 2: laptop story three weeks before the twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: President show election.

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Speaker 2: It's also very clear now that this story would have

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Speaker 2: changed the election, and there's a very good chance that

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump would be President of the United States of

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Speaker 2: America right now if it wasn't for the deep state

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Speaker 2: and our government institutions doing everything they could to cover

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Speaker 2: up the crimes committed by the Biden crime family. There

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Speaker 2: wasn't Russian collusion, but there was Democratic Party collusion, colluding

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Speaker 2: with the media, colluding with big tech. To tell you

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Speaker 2: that a story that they knew that was real.

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Speaker 1: Was a lie.

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Speaker 2: They told you it was a lie, even though the

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Speaker 2: entire time they knew it was real. They knew the

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Speaker 2: was real. They knew that the government had it, and

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Speaker 2: they knew that the government should have covered it up,

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Speaker 2: that the government was covering it up. They knew that

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Speaker 2: the government was not investigating that source and the crimes

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Speaker 2: of the Biden crime family. They knew the entire time

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Speaker 2: that it was real. And what do they do. They

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Speaker 2: an election. Should you have faith in the top levels

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Speaker 2: top levels of the DOJ?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Should you have faith in our institutions of our government

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Speaker 2: right now? The answer is no, You should not, not

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Speaker 2: because we're paranoid any longer. Not because we are you know,

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Speaker 2: conspiracy theorists. You should not trust the government of the

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Speaker 2: United States of America now in our institutions, because they

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Speaker 2: lie to you about everything. That is the problem. That's

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Speaker 2: number one. Number two, we also know about how coordinated

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Speaker 2: the effort was to cover it all up. I want

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Speaker 2: you to listen to this from Foxdiction Channel with Maria

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Speaker 2: Bartiroma just about how bad the cover up actually was,

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Speaker 2: and the cover up was absolutely terrible. Take a list.

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Speaker 4: I'm sitting here with my father. I will make certain

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Speaker 4: that between the man sitting next to me and every

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Speaker 4: person he knows, and my ability to forever hold a grudge,

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Speaker 4: that you will regret not following my direction. I am

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Speaker 4: sitting here waiting for the call with my father. Sounds

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to get into commenting on that.

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Speaker 4: Well, you seem deeply uncurious about it, don't you? Almost

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Speaker 4: suspiciously uncurious? Are you protecting the Bidens?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 6: And that was Florida Republican Congressman Matt Gates asking FBI

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Speaker 6: for the Biden families alleged influence pedaling and crimes. This

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Speaker 6: A senior FBI official told Twitter that the laptop was

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Speaker 6: the public. Instead President Biden in fifty one, former intelligence

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Speaker 6: Post's account right before the election. Joining us right now

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Speaker 6: with more is the reporter who broke the Hunter Biden

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Speaker 6: also joining us as Kimberly Strassel columnist with The Wall

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Speaker 6: The Biden Malaise, How America bounces back from Joe Biden's

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Speaker 6: dismal repeat of the Jimmy Carter Years. Ladies, it's great

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Speaker 6: to have you both here, to be here, Thank you

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Speaker 6: so much for joining us. And Emma, tell us about

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Speaker 6: that testimony you testified in front of this committee last week,

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Speaker 6: walking through how the intelligence community censored you. That had

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was quite surreal. You know, this has been

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Speaker 3: especially after such a spursion has been cast on me

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Speaker 3: and my reporting, and you just tell the story exactly

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Speaker 3: how it is and exactly how you know it to

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Speaker 3: and the feedback from it has just been incredible. It's

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Speaker 3: saying what everybody has been thinking, which is, we know

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Speaker 6: Gratitude is a good word. Yeah, I mean I hear

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Speaker 7: Kim.

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Speaker 6: You wrote just last week the shame of Christopher Ray's FBI.

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Speaker 6: I mean, this is not the first time we've seen this.

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Speaker 6: It keeps happening and there's no accountability for it.

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Speaker 5: Well, there's the Russia collusion story. There's recently the decision

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Speaker 5: it's the kind of collusion between them and other entities

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Speaker 6: The news before that was Russia collusion, where there was

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Speaker 6: the world. Tell me more about that, Emma, and what

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Speaker 7: Are you being heard?

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Speaker 3: You know. There was something that was really striking to

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Speaker 1: These people are a joke.

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Speaker 2: She's right, by the way, Now, the big question is

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Speaker 1: Okay, they've lied about a hell of a lot.

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Speaker 2: They had to silence it, and then they had to

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Speaker 2: look at what some of the whistleblowers were saying here.

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Speaker 2: As part of the criminal investigation into Hunter Biden, multiple

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Speaker 8: Two IRS whistleblowers testify to Congress about the Hunter Biden scandal.

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Speaker 8: Tonight we talk with IRS Special Agent Joseph Ziegler, who

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Speaker 8: Joseph Siegeler, welcome to Special Report.

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Speaker 7: Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 9: I was raised and have always strived to do what

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Speaker 9: To consider that if you were in my position, with

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Speaker 8: When did you have that moment? Was there an event?

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Speaker 8: What was the calculation like for you because your loved ones,

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Speaker 9: Yeah, So it took I had to have that conversation

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Speaker 9: Yeah, when you work in an investigation, you want to

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Speaker 8: So prosecutors, obviously and attorneys assigned to this case are

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Speaker 9: Works out in the favor of the target in this case,

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Speaker 9: Let me be clear on that criminal investigations. When you

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Speaker 8: You've talked about that August phone call or a meeting

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so I guess that would go back to the

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Speaker 9: of the first times where we knew there was some

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Speaker 9: some sort of influence that was coming into the investigation.

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Speaker 8: The Attorney General and US Attorney David Weiss have both

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Speaker 8: said he's always had the authority he needed to charge

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Speaker 8: whatever he thought was necessary wherever he thought he needed

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Speaker 8: to pursue it. What was your understanding of the authority

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Speaker 8: that mister Weiss communicated to your team that he did

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Speaker 8: or did not have.

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Speaker 9: So I guess I would go back to his most

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Speaker 9: recent letter. So he stated in that letter that is

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Speaker 9: authority is restricted to the district that he is in.

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Speaker 9: So his district is the district of Delaware, and if

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Speaker 9: he needs to go outside that district, he needs to

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Speaker 9: ask those President Biden appointed US attorneys to partner with him,

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Speaker 9: and if they say no, then he can go back

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Speaker 9: and ask for this special attorney authority and he was

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Speaker 9: assured he would be given this. All I saw in

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Speaker 9: that letter was a verbal assurance. Where's the actual memo

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Speaker 9: or notice that says, here is your special attorney authority.

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Speaker 9: You should have no issues bringing charges where you see them.

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Speaker 8: So you were told Your understanding is he did try

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Speaker 8: to bring charges in places like DC and was told

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Speaker 8: no by the US attorney that would be in charge

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Speaker 8: of that district.

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Speaker 9: So all I know is in the District of DC,

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Speaker 9: the US attorneys. So the way that I recall, and

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Speaker 9: this is from conversations that I would have had with

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Speaker 9: the assigned attorneys, is it went to the line attorneys

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Speaker 9: that were that were in the DC US Attorney's office,

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Speaker 9: so that would have been the career employee. They got it.

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Speaker 9: They said, here's how we're going to help you out.

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Speaker 9: Here's what we're going to do to bring this case

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Speaker 9: here in the district of DC. Then I get a

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Speaker 9: phone call a couple days later that says, hey, they're

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Speaker 9: not going.

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Speaker 7: To bring it. They don't want to partner with us,

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Speaker 7: they're not going to help us.

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Speaker 9: And they also say that no, you shouldn't bring this

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Speaker 9: case in our district.

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Speaker 8: Let me ask you too. This new document that's been released,

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Speaker 8: not new, it's newly released. This FT ten twenty three

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Speaker 8: that Cinema Grassley has put out that has various allegations

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Speaker 8: involving the Bidens and they're unverified. This is one source

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Speaker 8: who said it involving payments to a Barisma official, payments

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Speaker 8: from that official to them from Ukraine. Did that document

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Speaker 8: ever become part of your investigation? Did that come across

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Speaker 8: your desk?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 9: I provided an additional document to the House Ways and

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Speaker 9: Means Committee, which they released that testimony that I had

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Speaker 9: in there said that I had never seen that document before.

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Speaker 9: So I had never seen that ten. And the reason

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Speaker 9: why that ten twenty three might have been important is

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Speaker 9: that can further validate some other evidence that we are

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Speaker 9: trying to prove in the case. And that's why all

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Speaker 9: information is necessary for especially the lead IRS case agent

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Speaker 9: to have.

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Speaker 8: So from this point, a couple of questions in the

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Speaker 8: wake of your testimony. Are you surprised there wasn't more

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Speaker 8: in depth media coverage of what you testified to on Wednesday?

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Speaker 8: And what's been the reaction for folks now that you've

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Speaker 8: gone public, as you said at the hearing, in contrast

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Speaker 8: to what a lot of people that you align with

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Speaker 8: politically don't want you to be doing.

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Speaker 7: At the end of the day.

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Speaker 9: I think it's my duty, my sworn duty as a

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Speaker 9: federal law enforcement officer, that I come forward and I

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Speaker 9: tell the truth.

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Speaker 7: I come forward. I've presented evidence.

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Speaker 9: There is a process that we're given in becoming a whistleblower.

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Speaker 9: I think that's the most important thing. And look at

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Speaker 9: everything we presented to Congress, to the House Ways and

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Speaker 9: Means Committee. None of it's been refuted. None of what

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Speaker 9: we have presented has been refuted so far that I've seen.

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Speaker 8: Okay, one quick last question. You referenced the David Weiss letter.

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Speaker 8: I believe that was July tenth of this year. He

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Speaker 8: said in that that he couldn't speak to the ten

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Speaker 8: twenty three form because there was an ongoing investigation. Do

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Speaker 8: you know if there's still an investigation going on involving

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Speaker 8: Hunter Biden.

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Speaker 9: So I was removed from that team May fifteenth, twenty

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Speaker 9: twenty three. I have no idea what's going on as

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Speaker 9: far as that investigation goes. I have stated multiple times

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Speaker 9: that I don't want to see other agents FBI, i

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Speaker 9: RS go through the same thing we went through. If

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Speaker 9: there is other charges that are venued outside the district

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Speaker 9: of Delaware, David Weiss is going to run into the

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Speaker 9: same problem again and again.

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Speaker 7: And that's why we need to have.

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Speaker 9: An independent attorney assigned who has authority, who can go

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Speaker 9: in there bring the proper charges so that there can

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Speaker 9: be some faith restored in our justice system.

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Speaker 2: This whistleblower. It's incredible what Joseph Ziegler has had to

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Speaker 2: say here. And if you go back to his testimony

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Speaker 2: and you look at all of this that has happened here,

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Speaker 2: you understand it now very clearly. You have an entire

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Speaker 2: government that decided to go against everything that could possibly

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Speaker 2: happen to hold these people accountable for their crimes.

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Speaker 1: They just said, we're not going to do it.

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Speaker 2: They made it clear that their job was to cover

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Speaker 2: it up and to protect the Biden crime family at

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Speaker 2: all costs, no matter what. They decided that the Biden

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Speaker 2: crime family was too big to fail and that they

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Speaker 2: were going to protect them so they could keep their jobs.

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Speaker 2: Many of these people just wanted to make sure that

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Speaker 2: their careers were not stopped and they needed the hardcore

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Speaker 2: Democrats that's the socialists of communists to be in charge

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Speaker 2: so they could keep their corruption alive. That's what this

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Speaker 2: really boils down to. It's that level of corruption. Now,

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Speaker 2: there's also one other part in here that I think

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Speaker 2: is important that we bring up, and it's the fact

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Speaker 2: that these whistleblowers now have As I said earlier, and

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say it again because it's important to

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Speaker 2: understand this, they've risked it all. They've risked it all

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Speaker 2: to make sure that they can tell their story about

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Speaker 2: just how bad and just how corrupt everything is. They've

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Speaker 2: risked their livelihoods, they've risked their futures, they've risked being ostracized.

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Speaker 2: I mean, think about how bad they must believe this

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Speaker 2: entire situation is for them to risk everything that they've

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Speaker 2: just risked. Think about how brutal, how horrible all this

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Speaker 2: must be be.

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Speaker 1: For them.

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Speaker 2: If this is the outcome that they believe that they

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Speaker 2: that they need right, that this is their only thing

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Speaker 2: they have left that they need to do. This is

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Speaker 2: the only thing that they can do right, This is

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Speaker 2: the only thing that they're able to do. Now, when

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Speaker 2: you talk about it from that perspective, and you realize

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Speaker 2: now that this is the Biden crime family to nutshell.

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Speaker 2: None of what they could do selling out the United

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Speaker 2: States of America could happen without others helping them do it.

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Speaker 2: It's not just their family now, it's the Secretary of State,

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Speaker 2: it's the FBI director, it's the irs, it's.

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Speaker 1: Members of Congress.

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Speaker 2: Without them, they couldn't do this, They couldn't pull it off.

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Speaker 1: Folks.

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Speaker 2: Without them, they would be I would argue in jail

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Speaker 2: right now. They would be in is in right now.

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Speaker 2: But there are too many people that are involved here

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Speaker 2: that said, hey, we've got careers too. We have big

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Speaker 2: careers that we have to protect. And that means we

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Speaker 2: have to protect the Biden crime family because if we

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Speaker 2: don't protect them, we.

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Speaker 1: Know what happens to us.

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Speaker 2: Right If we don't protect them, we know what's next,