WEBVTT - Manifesting a Good Time with Jamie Greenberg

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<v Speaker 1>Hi everybody. While I'm taking the month of September off

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<v Speaker 1>of doing stand up, I return on October one to

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<v Speaker 1>complete my Vaccinated and Horny tour. October, November, and December,

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<v Speaker 1>I have new dates up. I kick it off in Saratoga, California,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm coming to all parts of California, Long Beach,

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<v Speaker 1>Baker's Field. I'm going to Niagara Falls, Tucson, Arizona, Colorado, Minneapolis,

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<v Speaker 1>San Diego, Reading, Pennsylvania, and Baltimore, Maryland, just to name

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<v Speaker 1>a few. There's also some Floridian dates in there, since

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<v Speaker 1>this will be my last year that I'm able to

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<v Speaker 1>go inside the state of Florida. So check out Chelsea

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<v Speaker 1>handler dot com for more stand up dates for my

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<v Speaker 1>Vaccinated in Horny Tour. These are my last dates. Hi Catherine,

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Chelsea. Hi. How's it going. Oh, it's going so well.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited for our guest today. I know I'm

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<v Speaker 1>excited for her too. She's a real piece of work.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want you to know that I saw I

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<v Speaker 1>went way all watching yesterday, which was I did. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think next time it has to be a private affair.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I don't know why we get on these

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<v Speaker 1>boats and then you're stuck on these boats for like

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<v Speaker 1>four hours with a bunch of other people. We did

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<v Speaker 1>see an orca and we saw a humpback and that

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<v Speaker 1>was really really cool. Yeah, but yeah, they're they're too long.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's every I find all activities to be one hour

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<v Speaker 1>too long. Like everything needs to be condensed, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't want to be out on a boat

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<v Speaker 1>for three and a half hours. I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>out on the boat for two and a half hours. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that feels about right. My only question is like, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to have time enough to find those whales. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess right, Well, they're all there. They're all there because

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<v Speaker 1>in this season, I mean, they guarantee a site a

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<v Speaker 1>whale sighting, and yeah they did, and we we saw one,

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<v Speaker 1>like within twenty minutes, we saw a huge humpback that

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<v Speaker 1>was playing with the log. It was so cute. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean if I were in the water and I saw

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<v Speaker 1>a humpback swimming towards me, I think I would pass

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<v Speaker 1>out from the sheer. Well. I mean, they are so massive.

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<v Speaker 1>The orcas are not as big as I thought they were,

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<v Speaker 1>but not that I'm in the water with them. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, those humpbacks are just and the gray whales

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<v Speaker 1>are so big. Oh they're so beautiful, because that's the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing we're used to seeing, right, is those orcas

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<v Speaker 1>that are at you know, sea World, and those poor

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<v Speaker 1>things when you see them out in the free ocean,

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<v Speaker 1>swimming wherever the funk they feel like it, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you see them stuck. I mean, no wonder orcas are

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<v Speaker 1>killing people inside zoos or whatever the marine parks, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But apparently orcas are like horrible assholes. I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't smoke a lot of pop, but when I do,

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<v Speaker 1>I like to put on what I call ocean show,

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<v Speaker 1>which is you know, nature ocean documentaries. And I saw

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<v Speaker 1>one and it was like, these orcas just like bombarded

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<v Speaker 1>a nice other whale and her baby and killed the baby,

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<v Speaker 1>drowned it, baby beluga. They drowned baby beluga and then

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<v Speaker 1>they just left it like it wasn't even for eating,

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<v Speaker 1>it was for sports. Yet they're the top of the

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<v Speaker 1>food chain. Yeah they're mean. I mean that's because they're

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<v Speaker 1>at the top of the food chain. They didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>there by accident. But yeah, that's really horrifying to kill

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<v Speaker 1>your little baby. Because whales have emotions, you know, they're

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<v Speaker 1>like highly emotional, so if they lose like a family member.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember there was that whale. It was like kind of recently,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have no sense of time, so it could

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<v Speaker 1>have been six years ago or six months, but that

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<v Speaker 1>was she lost her baby. Her baby died. She had

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<v Speaker 1>just stated it for like eighteen months, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>baby was born and she swam around with it for

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<v Speaker 1>months because she was mourning the loss of it. Right exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what Orca's are doing. She should have called

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<v Speaker 1>into the podcast. We are going to take a quick

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<v Speaker 1>break so you can hear and add and then we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be right back. Let's move on to our guest. Her

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<v Speaker 1>name is Jamie Greenberg. She's my personal makeup artist. She

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<v Speaker 1>travels with me a lot around the country, sometimes on tour,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes for other stuff. We're very good friends. And she

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<v Speaker 1>likes to show me her ass, her boobs. Actually I've

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<v Speaker 1>never seen her Pikachu, and I would like to say

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for the hello, Jamie. Jamie's my makeup artist,

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<v Speaker 1>and she is a mother of three children, and she

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<v Speaker 1>has a husband. His name is Josh Hi Josh. He

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<v Speaker 1>just celebrated his sixty five birthday. Now, yeah, anyway, Jamie

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<v Speaker 1>has been an absenteem mother for the last six months.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no friends who are parents who are with

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<v Speaker 1>their children less than Jamie Greenberg. But when she is

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<v Speaker 1>with them, she is on the sidelines of a softball game,

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<v Speaker 1>fucking screaming and yelling like a lunatic. Because she's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those parents. I am a softball mom, and I

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<v Speaker 1>will cut a bit or pop attire and her son.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell the quick story about your son when he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to play with the extra basketball the like the

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<v Speaker 1>game when he they asked him to play with the

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<v Speaker 1>better team. Her sons seven. Okay, he's seven, and he

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<v Speaker 1>started basketball and he was pretty good. He's showing promise.

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<v Speaker 1>My husband was an athlete. I was an athlete. He

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<v Speaker 1>starts dribbling and one of the coaches says, can he

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<v Speaker 1>stay and play with us with the older kids. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>he's seven. In the old kids were eight. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to suck on the microphone. Okay. I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>my husband in a while, either, Okay, okay, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>what you're doing when you go home, I'm sure exactly

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<v Speaker 1>born again. Okay. So the coach comes over and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, he'll play. I just automatically, you know, offer

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<v Speaker 1>him up, and he starts crying and he's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I don't want to play. I'm scared, Like he

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<v Speaker 1>was nervous that the older kids were going to play

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<v Speaker 1>with him and he just didn't want to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, you will get over and you

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<v Speaker 1>will go, and this is what you're gonna do because

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get a scholarship and I'm not paying for

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<v Speaker 1>your college education, so you better get in there. A

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<v Speaker 1>little seven year old and she's telling me this story

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<v Speaker 1>and then she goes, and then Josh stormed out right

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<v Speaker 1>and through the uniform at the garbage. Oh that story.

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<v Speaker 1>That was another story. Oh that was the same day

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<v Speaker 1>we went and played Wreck. So this is a travel

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<v Speaker 1>team for those of you out there who knows sports

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<v Speaker 1>travels very serious. And then Wreck, anyone with a pulse

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<v Speaker 1>can play, right, you just have to be in the

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<v Speaker 1>age group. So we signed him up for that. When

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<v Speaker 1>we get there and there's no rules, like you can

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<v Speaker 1>run with the ball, you can triple dribble. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like a whole new sport genre. It wasn't basketball. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like yelling at the ref like, hey, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>call it a double dribble guy, and he's like nope,

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<v Speaker 1>just keeps ignoring me. I'm like, hey, that that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't do that. You can't you know, run ten

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<v Speaker 1>steps with the ball, like you know, like this is

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<v Speaker 1>not basketball. I don't know what this is, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>some bullshit. And in Sino, California and they were like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>the kids are just having fun. I'm like, they're not four,

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<v Speaker 1>there seven and we're on a mission here. So Josh

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<v Speaker 1>took the uniform and threw it in the trash can

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<v Speaker 1>and the coach was like, what are you doing? And

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<v Speaker 1>then I came out. I'm like, you shouldn't throw away

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<v Speaker 1>the wreck, you know, the wreck. They don't have any money,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was like get I fished it out and

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<v Speaker 1>gave it to the guy, but I'm like, we're done here.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's Jamie Greenberg. Everybody. She's a celebrity makeup artist.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how she introduces herself on her Instagram. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to follow her on Instagram Jamie Makeup at Jamie Makeup,

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie Makeup, and she has all these great products that

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<v Speaker 1>I use. Bl Lighter, which is a splosh that you

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<v Speaker 1>could use his eyeshadow, you could use it on your lips.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she has bloss and I think everything in

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<v Speaker 1>her product line she start with b L and she

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<v Speaker 1>is not on board with that, right, bless you for

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<v Speaker 1>saying that, But I don't know if that's such a

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<v Speaker 1>good idea. I don't know. I mean, I know because

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<v Speaker 1>everything was like like a hand job. You're right, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. You can't just stop and then

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<v Speaker 1>be like we're going to do something else. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're right. I think let's talk about the third

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<v Speaker 1>product when it comes to fruition, and you can help

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<v Speaker 1>name it. But you can get those products at Jamie

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<v Speaker 1>mckup and they're all light natural, like really nice organic.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gluten free and gluten free and just really really quick.

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<v Speaker 1>If you buy the clear one, I'm selling five of

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<v Speaker 1>the Clear ones, which is the Bloss. It's a clear

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<v Speaker 1>bloss bomb gloss. The first five hundred I'm giving a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent of the proceeds to Plan Parenthood. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>be clear, be clear. We're starting to get other brands

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<v Speaker 1>to be in this campaign. I just talked to Plan

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<v Speaker 1>Parenthood this morning. Sister from my activist friend Chelsea Handler,

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<v Speaker 1>how to get involved and stick up for what you

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<v Speaker 1>believe in. And I'm sticking up for my vagina and

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter's vagina and my son's vagina after that game. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just kidding. Jamie's so like I said, she's not.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a latch key mother. She has been traveling with me.

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<v Speaker 1>You came to New York with us, you came to Nashville,

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<v Speaker 1>then you went to Italy. I went to Italy and Mexico,

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<v Speaker 1>Mexico with your family. That was a nice throw them

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<v Speaker 1>a bone, take them to Mexico for a week, and

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<v Speaker 1>then she went back on another trip on her own.

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<v Speaker 1>These are all under the sub diffusion doing people's makeup work.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not what's happening, and I think that we

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<v Speaker 1>could all be honest about that. No, it's exactly I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I went, I did the bride in Italy. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>you were there for five days and you did one

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<v Speaker 1>day of work, seven days and two days of work rehearsal, dinner, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and the wedding, and then with you, I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>want my makeup away. I'm basically renting Jamie for her personality.

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<v Speaker 1>She said to me on occasion that my makeup is subpar,

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<v Speaker 1>but my personalities attend. Anyone can make it in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 1>You just have to have a good personality. Yeah, j

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<v Speaker 1>has the best personality. So Javie, let's talk a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about your attitude in life a little bit, because

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that I love about you so

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<v Speaker 1>much is how positive and what a party bringer you are.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know from personal experience that that could sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>be a burden because people are expecting a lot. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I I went through a lot, like a phase where

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<v Speaker 1>I was like very resentful of people expecting like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Chelsea's coming, She's gonna be hilarious, and I'm like, funk off,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know what kind of what time a month

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<v Speaker 1>that this is for me and what I'm doing or

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<v Speaker 1>how you know what shape I'm in, And so I

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<v Speaker 1>became resentful of that at a point in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel pressured to pick up the situation when

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<v Speaker 1>you walk into a room with clients or if you're

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<v Speaker 1>working or with your family, like, for sure, Well the

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<v Speaker 1>family gets the worst part of me, of course. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I just said that You're never right. Everybody knows. Yeah, Josh,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're listening, I love you. Josh is actually calling

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<v Speaker 1>in today. One caller, it's your husband again. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely think with maneuvering through my you know, business life.

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<v Speaker 1>I realized that when I brought positive vibes like it

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<v Speaker 1>changed the room, the dynamic. You could get anybody in

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<v Speaker 1>the room who's mad, angry and instead of taking it personally,

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<v Speaker 1>because in the beginning of the career, I would be like,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't like me, and I would go inside with

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<v Speaker 1>it and then I'm like, no, they're just they're having

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<v Speaker 1>their own ship and I'm gonna come in and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna like make everyone in this room have a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was like once I started doing that, like

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<v Speaker 1>I attracted the best clients you. I attracted just better

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<v Speaker 1>things in my life I did. I manifested a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>Who names some of your other clients CCO, Rashida Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>Molly Shannon, Julie Bowen, Elizabeth, Elizabeth Moss, I've done her,

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<v Speaker 1>Lizzie Kaplan Love, Lizzie Kaplan, Kristen Stress Store, like everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>it's crazy. Yeah you yeah, you have a great client list,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's not the skill that you just develop. Some

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<v Speaker 1>people don't have big personalities, so you already had that person.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean when we were doing a show back East,

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<v Speaker 1>I met like all of your friends from high school,

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<v Speaker 1>not all of them, but a lot of them from

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<v Speaker 1>growing up, like ten of them. And obviously like that

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<v Speaker 1>dynamic was at play while you were growing up, because

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people I don't think could just all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden become the person in the room that

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<v Speaker 1>makes everybody happy, you know. And I'm sure you were

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<v Speaker 1>like that because we talked about sometimes when you were

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<v Speaker 1>growing up, like you always had your point of view.

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<v Speaker 1>I always had my point of view whether I was

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<v Speaker 1>playing soccer, whether I was dancing, whatever I did, I

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<v Speaker 1>had fun with it. And I feel like my mom

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<v Speaker 1>was like that. My dad was always working, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>where I get the travel part from in my in

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<v Speaker 1>my life. But no, sorry, dad, he won't listen. But

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<v Speaker 1>my mom was always like just so vibrant and everything

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<v Speaker 1>she did, and so I think it just seeped into

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<v Speaker 1>me and everything I do. I try to be positive,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like it gets you really fall are

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I feel like it has. Yeah, there

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<v Speaker 1>are dividends. You know that it pays off in dividends

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<v Speaker 1>when you are positive and you are upbeat, like the

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<v Speaker 1>domino effect. It's like you're tipping over one domino that

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<v Speaker 1>tips over fifteen other ones. You could say that too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like when you withhold I heard this analogy, I

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<v Speaker 1>think from a friend of mine recently. If you're upset

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<v Speaker 1>with somebody and you don't say anything about it, you're

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<v Speaker 1>letting a domino tip over in the wrong way, and

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<v Speaker 1>you hold it, holds it, holds it, and then all

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<v Speaker 1>the dominoes go down, and then no one said anything,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's a whole fucking mestical And then conversely,

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<v Speaker 1>spreading joy and positivity is like tipping a domino in

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<v Speaker 1>that direction, you know, and then everybody kind of falls

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<v Speaker 1>in line, because when somebody's in a great mood, it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to be a fucking bitch and it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>be an asshole when there's positive vibes. It's absolutely and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean just think about it. Anywhere you go, there's

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<v Speaker 1>always somebody who comes in. Like even I was just

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<v Speaker 1>on the plane and one of the stores on the

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<v Speaker 1>plane was like moonwalking and having like the best time.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like six in the morning. Everyone just couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>help but laugh. He like spread smiles on everybody, even

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<v Speaker 1>though everybody was like shut up, but it's also like

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<v Speaker 1>thank you exactly. So yeah, I think it's so important

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<v Speaker 1>because I also have like a true Gemini in the

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<v Speaker 1>sense that like when I'm off, yeah, I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to participate, like I I my friends also know

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<v Speaker 1>like I won't go out or I won't show up

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<v Speaker 1>if I don't feel like I have enough energy to

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<v Speaker 1>be myself and be the best version of myself. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go and then I end up having fun, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just if I'm not in the right mindset. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like you're going to get a cold or

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<v Speaker 1>something if you go out, Like I'm just not committed

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<v Speaker 1>to being myself and having fun, so I'll stay in

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<v Speaker 1>and watch like tons of TV, which she introduced me

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<v Speaker 1>to my very first episode of The Housewives of Dubai,

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<v Speaker 1>which I was also your very first episode. So Jamie

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<v Speaker 1>loves reality television and she can't get enough of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and she tells me I'm at it all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and my assistant also loves a housewife series. But which

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<v Speaker 1>one is your favorite? Atlanta? I love Atlanta. I love

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<v Speaker 1>Beverly Hills, New York, New Jersey. I mean, I love

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<v Speaker 1>them all. I can't get enough. I really, and we're trying.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you should be on the Real Housewives of

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<v Speaker 1>Who's Who's My husbands? You have to be a housewife. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to. You don't know. I mean, I mean, no,

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<v Speaker 1>are they not married? Some of them aren't married. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's funny. It is fun I never thought of that,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, we watched. We had to lay over. What

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<v Speaker 1>city was at Chicago? I don't know what happened. Somehow

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<v Speaker 1>we got on a connecting flight. First mistake, okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>got weight laid, but we were all traveling together. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a nice, big group of us, so it was like

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even care about that because we were all together.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, okay, fine, well this will be an economic trip.

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<v Speaker 1>So we had to lay over I think four hours.

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<v Speaker 1>They said the plane was going to be and we

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<v Speaker 1>were like fun. But then they put us in a

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<v Speaker 1>private room in the lounge, you know, because of the

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<v Speaker 1>celebrity and Housewives of Dubai was premiering. Yeah, and we

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<v Speaker 1>got tons of Starbucks snacks. So so you guys and

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<v Speaker 1>showing me and we were I was like, oh, the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect opportunity for me. To get into this fucking show,

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<v Speaker 1>because honestly, the amount of people that air in my

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<v Speaker 1>life that watch The Housewives franchise, I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>missing Alan on something culturally because you can't relate. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe you don't watch it. Because if Recap with

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<v Speaker 1>You could be another podcast, like, it would be amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, and I do feel like when people are

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it, I'm like, funk, who's Felicia you know?

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<v Speaker 1>Or whatever? And even when I did I've done some

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<v Speaker 1>of the Housewives podcast and have had no idea that

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<v Speaker 1>they were housewives. Like my publicist will be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you should do this podcast. It's really popular to promote

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<v Speaker 1>something whatever, and I'll go on and then I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>how do I know that woman? And They're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>she's a real housewife like garcel I did Garcela do?

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<v Speaker 1>And then like she's on the Housewives. I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>she was on the reel as well. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>love her and she lives near me. To be fair,

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<v Speaker 1>she has had a lot of things she's for being

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<v Speaker 1>a house yeah. And is she married Garcela? No? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Was she married to someone someone else? Yeah? And the

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<v Speaker 1>men are never featured well, New Jersey. The men kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like rule the school, like Frank and Melissa's husband

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Gorga. And you know what I mean, do you

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<v Speaker 1>watch it? I? You know what, I have watched only

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<v Speaker 1>two seasons's watching the Kardashians. She's re watching the Kardashians.

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<v Speaker 1>I did watch the Utah One though. The first season

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<v Speaker 1>of The Utah One, I was into that. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that one was good. The second season is great. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend works on that show. That's a great franchise.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything moremon adjacent. But Dubai was a bomb. It was

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<v Speaker 1>not good. What's the word? So? I had subsequent episodes

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<v Speaker 1>of Dubaibe be any better. I haven't watched anymore that

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<v Speaker 1>that turned me off so bad. Like that room we

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<v Speaker 1>were sitting in, it might have carpeting, like a conference room.

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<v Speaker 1>How many times I had to go to the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like a corporate conference room. But it was

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<v Speaker 1>great to sit there instead of like covid Ali in

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<v Speaker 1>the airport because we're with someone's faus. I was just

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<v Speaker 1>telling Jackie about Jamie. Sorry, you can call me whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you like, Jackie. I was just like Jamie about I

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<v Speaker 1>got this laser don two weeks ago and I can't

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<v Speaker 1>fill my chin because they whatever they did, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>do a double dose because I was starting to get

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<v Speaker 1>that little, a little bit of it. I was coming

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<v Speaker 1>down from my chin to my neck, and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>just hit me hard with that because they were putting

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<v Speaker 1>me under. So I was like, I don't care about

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<v Speaker 1>the pain level, just fucking get that thing to tighten up.

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<v Speaker 1>And I haven't been able to feel my ships. They

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<v Speaker 1>killed your nerves. I'm like, I went in after it

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I can't feel anything in this area,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, you won't for about three months, three years,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, three years. Like my boobs, there's parts of

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<v Speaker 1>it I don't feel. I had a reduction lift, just

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<v Speaker 1>for everyone out there, and I there's areas of my

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<v Speaker 1>titty I can't feel. Well. You had a reduction lift,

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<v Speaker 1>and interestingly enough, her boobs crew back. You guys, I

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<v Speaker 1>just like to eat and they came all. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is a phenomenon because you are not my first friend

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<v Speaker 1>that has had boob reduction and had the boobs grow back.

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<v Speaker 1>They see that would happened to me because I have

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<v Speaker 1>a weird thing where like my boobs are like goldfish,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if I lose weight, they stay the same size.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I gain weight, they get bigger. So it

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<v Speaker 1>just is like, how is that growing? Uh? They grow

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<v Speaker 1>to the size of their environment. Yeah, and they taste good.

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<v Speaker 1>My kids live on the but look my body. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to just show it in the camera. Can say

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<v Speaker 1>like I have Like I don't gain it in my

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<v Speaker 1>in my butt, in my legs, nothing. I gain it

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<v Speaker 1>a little in the hip and all in the tip,

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<v Speaker 1>all on the tip, all on the tip. I just

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's like because I guess getting a boob

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<v Speaker 1>reduction is like a little bit like getting lightbo suction,

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<v Speaker 1>because when you get those procedures, they have to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you you cannot gain five pounds ever again. Otherwise it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to go straight back to where you where you

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<v Speaker 1>got it. Because I had lightbo done on my arms

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<v Speaker 1>when I was in my twenties, and then it like

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<v Speaker 1>on the back of my arms, you know, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it came around the front like the fat and all right, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>what the fund is it? And they're like, oh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>trans positioning. Yeah, it needs a new place to live.

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<v Speaker 1>To live, Well, you could have told me that in

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<v Speaker 1>the first place. They're like cockroaches that, yeah, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>get food production. You need specific instructions because it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>make any sense to take them off. You always have

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<v Speaker 1>to go smaller than what you think to account for

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<v Speaker 1>when you gain weight and they come back. The only

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<v Speaker 1>positive is they're very buoyant, like because I got them lifted.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like huge, but they're like they're high and tight,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. They're like a twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>year old. And my one of my friends is like,

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<v Speaker 1>you should start an only fan. So that's the backup

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<v Speaker 1>plan if this makeup thing doesn't work out. Well, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you already have an only fan, so how would you

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<v Speaker 1>start a new one under a different name and alias?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I plug the only fans? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we're here for, Jamie. So we're gonna use your

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<v Speaker 1>sagaciousness and great instincts and have you help us give

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<v Speaker 1>advice to be I'm so down. I'm so down. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to come to my worka in September? Catherine

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<v Speaker 1>and you're coming? They're yeah, yeah, I have to check.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna be fine, but I'm coming. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>come the last week when we're going. But we're yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're having the last week, we're having a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>girls funny, so please I'll no one parties like Chelsea.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I want to tell you we have the

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<v Speaker 1>I literally have the best time. Like it's just really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>You're fun person. Yeah, high five. I like to high five. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're honest too. She'll tell me what I'm being annoying,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I just leave and go watch TV. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes your marcos are too long, that's true, She's not

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<v Speaker 1>You're not saying anything, just like videotaping yourself like like

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<v Speaker 1>well like only fans. If I wanted to see that,

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<v Speaker 1>I would go on your only fans page. Then just

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<v Speaker 1>go to my own fans. Let's talk anymore. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you gonna say something or what I'm just like

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<v Speaker 1>videotaping or something like I'm in the shower. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>humid out and um, I have a zip right here

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<v Speaker 1>and my boobs are very big. Anyway, I hope you're

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<v Speaker 1>having a good day. I love you. That's what my

0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:59.760
<v Speaker 1>marcos are. Yours are always quick. Well, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>cut this often we're going to go to break Okay, okay, bye,

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<v Speaker 1>that was it. Jamie actually we've done. Okay, just one

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<v Speaker 1>one one segment of the show and we're back. We're back,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jamie, I don't usually do this, but since I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're a fan of the show, and I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like this email was very appropriate. I have a feedback

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<v Speaker 1>email that I'm going to read before we get into

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<v Speaker 1>some questions. You mean you don't normally do this, well,

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<v Speaker 1>not usually. Wall of the guest is here right. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to say it's so nice to meet

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<v Speaker 1>you because I've been listening to you for months now,

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<v Speaker 1>and really I was talking about you with my husband,

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<v Speaker 1>who works on the show, and I was like, Jamie

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<v Speaker 1>is coming. He's like, do you know her. I'm like no.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked for ten minutes. She's great. Thank you. Yeah, So,

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle says, Dear Chelsea, first huge fan. I had the

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<v Speaker 1>privilege of seeing Chelsea in Seattle in February with my

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<v Speaker 1>childhood best friend. It was our first post pandemic concert

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<v Speaker 1>and it was exactly what a couple of fifty seven

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<v Speaker 1>year old Jewish Jersey girls needed. So that's thank you

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<v Speaker 1>number one. Second thank you as this I was there, Yeah, okay, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I listened to whole relationship Red Flags with Julianna Margali's today,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was exactly the advice I needed to convey

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<v Speaker 1>to my twenty eight year old son, who's in a

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with a woman much like the man described in

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. I basically transcribed the advice and gave it

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<v Speaker 1>to my son to help him see how unhealthy his

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<v Speaker 1>relationship is, and it worked. So thank you, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. Nothing brings a parent to their knees more

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<v Speaker 1>than their child in pain, and you truly helped me

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<v Speaker 1>to help my child through and out of something very

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<v Speaker 1>unhealthy and difficult. From one Jersey girl to another, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for just being you and doing what you do best.

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<v Speaker 1>Miss Oh my god, you have to send that to Julianna.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have her info? I'll text her. I'll text her,

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<v Speaker 1>but you have to send that to her. She's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>forge that. So, Julianna Margatus, did you. I've never gotten

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<v Speaker 1>more texts and responses in my life about somebody being

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<v Speaker 1>so great on the podcast. She was. I knew nothing

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<v Speaker 1>about her except she's an amazing actress and she is

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<v Speaker 1>so real and cool, and you know what, she's so genuine,

0:23:24.280 --> 0:23:27.679
<v Speaker 1>she's without guile, like she's just very much present and

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<v Speaker 1>like you want her to win. You root for her,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's available for you, like you're talking to her.

0:23:33.400 --> 0:23:36.800
<v Speaker 1>She's present and she's not thinking about anything else and

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<v Speaker 1>just so filled with love. And I think everyone could

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<v Speaker 1>pick up on that. But that's why she had such

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<v Speaker 1>a big impact on her episode. She texted me also, Catherine,

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<v Speaker 1>and said, please let me know if anyone drops out

0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:49.520
<v Speaker 1>last minute. I'm happy to come back any time. I said,

0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:52.399
<v Speaker 1>we love that offer. Yeah, I enjoyed that episode. She

0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:55.600
<v Speaker 1>is amazing. She's so modest, she's so real, she's down

0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:58.720
<v Speaker 1>to earth, and she's just so she see there's something

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<v Speaker 1>ethereal about her. Like looking at her in her face

0:24:01.920 --> 0:24:04.080
<v Speaker 1>and her eyes and how open she is, you just

0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:09.440
<v Speaker 1>feel safe with her and her like buttery voice, very

0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:16.440
<v Speaker 1>different than Martha Stewart. It's a great episode. She tells

0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:18.240
<v Speaker 1>it how it is that Martha poked up on my

0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:20.480
<v Speaker 1>phone that day. I was like, I looked at the phone.

0:24:20.480 --> 0:24:23.919
<v Speaker 1>In the top news story was Martha Stewart wants friends

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<v Speaker 1>to die so she can marry them. It was front

0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:31.280
<v Speaker 1>and center on My People magazine and like little quotable

0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:33.000
<v Speaker 1>quotes I was, it was like, I just want them

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<v Speaker 1>to die. Oh my god, she must have been like funk.

0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:41.119
<v Speaker 1>Why vodka. She doesn't care, She's like says what she wants.

0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:43.720
<v Speaker 1>I know, she's like making a rhubarb pie somewhere. She

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<v Speaker 1>she seems to also be in the moment whatever with

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<v Speaker 1>whatever she's doing. She's in her own special moment. She's

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<v Speaker 1>a gold fish. She doesn't remember anything from the past. Well.

0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Our next email comes from Maggie. Maggie is in Reno,

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<v Speaker 1>she says, Dear Chelsea, I live in a small town

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<v Speaker 1>outside of Reno, Nevada, where it's sunny three hundred plus

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<v Speaker 1>days of the year. However, my husband refuses to wear

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<v Speaker 1>a sunscreen. We do a lot of yard work together,

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 1>and he's often out and about with the dogs. He

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<v Speaker 1>usually tans more than burns, but I'm beginning to notice

0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:25.199
<v Speaker 1>age spots on his face that weren't there before. He

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<v Speaker 1>notices them too, but shrugs it off. I know this

0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:30.760
<v Speaker 1>sounds vain, but I'm worried about the effect the sun

0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:33.760
<v Speaker 1>will have on his skin in the long run. After all,

0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm the one having to look at and kiss him

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<v Speaker 1>every day. Is it unfair of me to insist he

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<v Speaker 1>wears sunscreen? So he doesn't turn into a shriveled piece

0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:44.439
<v Speaker 1>of leather. I've touted all of its health benefits, but

0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:46.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm too afraid to flat out say that. I'm worried

0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:48.199
<v Speaker 1>he's going to look busted by the time we're in

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<v Speaker 1>our seventies. I mean, if he asked me to get

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:53.280
<v Speaker 1>a boob job, I'd be pretty offended. But this town

0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:55.320
<v Speaker 1>is already full of rednecks, and I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be married to one. I'm not sure what to do.

0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Am I being too superficial Maggie? Well, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>she's gonna go in on this the sun damage aspect

0:26:06.080 --> 0:26:08.280
<v Speaker 1>of it, because that's fucked up. First of all, you

0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 1>can couch it as protection, like refuses to wear sunblock

0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 1>is just stupid, Like there's skin cancer kills. Melanoma is

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<v Speaker 1>like one of the worst worst kind of cancers you

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:20.960
<v Speaker 1>can get and fatal like hello, So I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not even about vanity. It's about health and protection and no,

0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:28.240
<v Speaker 1>and vanity is there too. You have every right to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, hey, I don't want you to turn into

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<v Speaker 1>a shriveled up raisin. Obviously you don't give a ship,

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:34.720
<v Speaker 1>which makes me question a lot of things that you

0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:36.760
<v Speaker 1>don't think you should give a shit about the way

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:38.800
<v Speaker 1>that I feel about how you look, you know what

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:41.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean. Obviously, relationships don't have to be based completely

0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:44.280
<v Speaker 1>on that, but it is an element. But the most

0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:48.400
<v Speaker 1>primary reason is to protect yourself from cancer. So if

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:50.640
<v Speaker 1>if you have a husband that doesn't want to wear

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<v Speaker 1>sunscreen and doesn't think that it's going to affect him

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:56.359
<v Speaker 1>in any way, then that's a bigger issue. I know

0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:59.159
<v Speaker 1>it is it hiding something else, Like that's just like

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<v Speaker 1>a no brainer. It's like take out the garbage, put

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<v Speaker 1>on the sunscreen. Maybe you need to show him how.

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:06.119
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you need to reward him like a little baby,

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:08.359
<v Speaker 1>because sometimes guys need to be like you know, I

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:11.119
<v Speaker 1>have to make my husband's doctor's appointment sometimes, like I

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:13.480
<v Speaker 1>have to call or he won't go. It's just part

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<v Speaker 1>of their d n A. So maybe you know, attach

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<v Speaker 1>a reward to it, you know, like when kids are

0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:21.440
<v Speaker 1>trying to learn to potty train. Like I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>fun that you don't need a fucking reward to put

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<v Speaker 1>on sunscreen, you fucking asshole. I think she shows has

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:28.199
<v Speaker 1>to put it on him. If you have to do

0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:30.720
<v Speaker 1>it yourself, fine, who cares? Like a massage Yeah, give

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:33.119
<v Speaker 1>him a little face head massage if he's if he's bald,

0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:35.159
<v Speaker 1>that's fun to give him a little bald massage. And

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:36.560
<v Speaker 1>if he has a hair, just put it on him

0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:38.840
<v Speaker 1>for him. If he and if he doesn't let you

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:41.399
<v Speaker 1>do that, then I don't even you know. There's a

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 1>deeper Yeah, escape Reno come out here called nine one

0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 1>one and that police Academy will show that front door

0:27:55.880 --> 0:28:01.440
<v Speaker 1>with Carrie Kenny silver leading the chest and her best Yeah,

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:03.960
<v Speaker 1>so non negotiable. Yeah, if he's not willing to do that,

0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:05.639
<v Speaker 1>what else is he not willing to do? Call is

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 1>back when you have a real problem. I mean, these days,

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 1>like some people don't like the texture of SPF or whatever,

0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:15.200
<v Speaker 1>but these days there's all kinds of there's so many

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:19.359
<v Speaker 1>spfs and there's yes, there's oil, there's tinted they're great,

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 1>and there's ones that you don't feel and they don't

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:23.879
<v Speaker 1>change your skin. One I like the best is that Alta,

0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:28.240
<v Speaker 1>the tinted moist Alta, dr Alta md no Alta you

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:34.440
<v Speaker 1>you the beauty oh really also eats your ALTI. Okay, Yeah,

0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 1>there's a new one called Vacation that I really like

0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 1>because it smells like a vacation and it sheers down.

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I'll get you some. It's really delicious. Yeah, maybe, yeah,

0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:45.719
<v Speaker 1>maybe you have to find him something that like smells

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 1>good or beer. Doesn't the bunny ranch make an spfs.

0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh well let's start there. Well, our next caller, this

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<v Speaker 1>is Nikki. Nikki says Dear Chelsea. I'm a thirty eight

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 1>year old mother of four going through a relatively peaceful divorce.

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 1>I was with my ex for nine years. I've recently

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<v Speaker 1>started using bumble and dipping my toes into the dating pool.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking just to get out and have fun, with

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<v Speaker 1>no desire for a serious, long term relationship. I'm writing

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<v Speaker 1>because I keep getting a lot of matches that are

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<v Speaker 1>men ten or more years younger than me. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>anticipating this, and I feel predator ish considering I do

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 1>have an eighteen year old son. I know it's a

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<v Speaker 1>mental block for me, and I'm very attracted to several

0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:37.200
<v Speaker 1>of these younger guys, but I'm terrified. I need to

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<v Speaker 1>stop feeling like I'm an old hag and embrace this

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 1>really flattering response. Any tips on how to do that?

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Hi Nikki, Hi Nikki, Hi, Hi, Hi, Hi, My dear friend.

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Jamie's our guest today. She's hi, hi, Hi to Hi Jamie.

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Love your makeup girl. Thank you. How long have you

0:29:57.960 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 1>been single? First of all, a couple of mon okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And how long was your relationship that you're getting out of?

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<v Speaker 1>Nine years? Okay, well that's pretty quick to be dating.

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Are you ready to be dating? Um? Yeah, well I

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:16.720
<v Speaker 1>left the relationship five years of that. Yeah, I left

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 1>the relationship mentally a while ago. So yeah, okay, well

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 1>in that case, good for you. Good for you for

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 1>taking leave, taking permanent leave. I don't want that to

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 1>be confused with a leave of absence. And how old

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:33.160
<v Speaker 1>are you? I'm thirty eight okay, and the gout and

0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>you have an eighteen year old son, And so the

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 1>guys that are responding are how old? Twenty eight? I

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<v Speaker 1>actually to change the setting because they were as young

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<v Speaker 1>as twenty because I couldn't oh younger than that at all. No,

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 1>that's good, I actually think and eighteen is close. I mean,

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:55.280
<v Speaker 1>I do think you do need to consider your son's age.

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I think that as a mother, like you know what

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean. You're setting him up for the rest of

0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:00.040
<v Speaker 1>his life, so everything you do is going to have

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 1>an impact on him, and that's something to always keep

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 1>in mind. I know you need to get some action,

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:07.640
<v Speaker 1>so I want that to happen as well, but in

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 1>a way that you can have all situations working in

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 1>your favor. I would even say might be a little

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:15.000
<v Speaker 1>bit too close to eighteen because it's closer to his

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 1>age than it is to yours. So exactly, I maybe

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 1>like bump, but let's bump that age right. Thirties young too.

0:31:23.080 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean you're thirty five, I'm thirty eight. Yeah, bump

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 1>it up to thirty. Let's do that. That's enough of

0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 1>an age difference. It's more of an age difference between

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 1>your son and him. And then do you like older

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:35.960
<v Speaker 1>guys at all? Or no, you're only in the younger guys.

0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty open. I date older. My husband that we're

0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:43.960
<v Speaker 1>getting a divorce is four years younger than me, So

0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I've kind of been all over the place. What is

0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 1>you do? Have a cap on your age setting? Is okay?

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Maybe go sixty girl, get freaky. I worked with senior citizens.

0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 1>That's too too close to them. You just have sex

0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 1>with those people. I want to get fired. Sure, how's

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 1>it been? How's your dating experience been? Have you been

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 1>having a lot of fun. Yes, And actually, like, I

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 1>went on a date last night with someone like ten

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 1>years older than me, but the best date I've been on.

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 1>I went on a date one date with a year

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 1>old and it was the best date I've been on. Oh,

0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:31.280
<v Speaker 1>what was so great about it? He actually wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>hear what I had to say. It sound me interesting.

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:36.640
<v Speaker 1>And we just walked on the beach at night. It

0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:40.200
<v Speaker 1>was just pleasant and nice. Yeah, it was just great.

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 1>It's so funny you say that because my girlfriend in

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Vancouver was on this thread with my girlfriends from Canada

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 1>and she went out with a guy last night and

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:50.080
<v Speaker 1>she goes, I don't understand what the fund is wrong

0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:52.600
<v Speaker 1>with Ben. He has not asked me one fucking question

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:55.040
<v Speaker 1>about myself. She's in the bathroom. She's like, I'd rather

0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 1>be in the bathroom Marco poloing with you guys, then

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:01.640
<v Speaker 1>fucking sitting here listen to this asshole talk about himself.

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 1>She's like, he did not ask me one question. And

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:07.640
<v Speaker 1>this brings me to another point that my girlfriend said

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:09.480
<v Speaker 1>her brother works at a bar. He's like in his

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:11.720
<v Speaker 1>thirties in New York City, and he said, oh, all

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 1>girls under the age of thirty are bisexual now, all

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 1>of them because men are so disgusting and terrible that

0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:21.080
<v Speaker 1>they've all turned inward. You know, they're all like, we're

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 1>open to women too, because and it's so interesting you

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:26.080
<v Speaker 1>say that a younger guy asked you about yourself, because

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 1>younger men, this next generation, whatever that generation is called,

0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 1>what is that generation Z? They're the people that understand

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 1>the situation about how like everything is shifting and moving,

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:41.800
<v Speaker 1>and they understand you do need to ask women about themselves.

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 1>You do need to ask questions. Your moms are doing

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 1>a better job and raising them, you know, so listen,

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:52.080
<v Speaker 1>just use that as a template for like the fact

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 1>that you know what you're looking for, Like that day

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:56.560
<v Speaker 1>to have it in the first place was great because

0:33:56.880 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 1>now you know, you want to have somebody that's going

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:01.360
<v Speaker 1>to be interested in you, and you're gonna be able

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:04.440
<v Speaker 1>to find that above thirty, I agree. I hope you

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:09.319
<v Speaker 1>will will. Yeah. You're fun, you look intell, cool glasses,

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:14.279
<v Speaker 1>great tasks. Thank you. Yeah, go have fun this live

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:16.440
<v Speaker 1>your best life. Do you You have the freedom to

0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 1>fucking do whatever you want with whomever you want. Now

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:28.160
<v Speaker 1>over thirty, that's your one car ground. Try it alright, alright, alright, appreciate,

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you. Let us know how it goes. That's funny.

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 1>I can see why younger guys are into her because

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:39.880
<v Speaker 1>she's like vibrant, Like you said, she's got this cool tattoos.

0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:42.919
<v Speaker 1>She's stylish, you know, I can see it. It's funny though,

0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:45.359
<v Speaker 1>when you think about the age immediately, I'm like, no,

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 1>no, no no, the age has to be closer to you

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:49.239
<v Speaker 1>than to your son, right, and mean, well, who the

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:50.839
<v Speaker 1>funk am I to say that? But I just think

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:53.200
<v Speaker 1>that's the right way. I think it's the right way too.

0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:57.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, uncomfortable being in an elevator with somebody to you, like,

0:34:57.560 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 1>of the opposite sex. I'm like, I don't want to

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 1>make eye contact with m. I just don't want anything

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 1>to do with it. I get very uncomfortable if I

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:06.480
<v Speaker 1>feel like a young boy is floating with me. Yes,

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't like I've got into young at all. I've

0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:11.400
<v Speaker 1>never been no me neither. I mean, I guess when

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm older, I will be No. I think you'll still

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:18.439
<v Speaker 1>be going for the older. I'll probably be pound. Let's

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 1>be honest, But it turned into a full time pussy pounder.

0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:30.320
<v Speaker 1>We all are moving on. Our next question. Is that

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:33.960
<v Speaker 1>a flask, Chelsea? No, it's a it's a chia. It's

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 1>like an antioxidant concentrated superfoods that I suck at out

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:40.800
<v Speaker 1>of this little What is this called a pouch? Ouch?

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Thank you? I knew a mother would know. I'm gonna

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:54.480
<v Speaker 1>burp her. Now explain well. Our next call comes from

0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:58.919
<v Speaker 1>Brooke Brook, says dear Chelsea. I'm thirty five years old,

0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:01.280
<v Speaker 1>a freelance writer, and I live in your home state

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:03.279
<v Speaker 1>of New Jersey. I promise this is not all just

0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 1>email from journeys from New Jersey too. Well, my family

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 1>is Elizabeth. Oh that's right, you're not really. I love

0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:14.239
<v Speaker 1>your podcast and listen to it every day while I

0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:17.760
<v Speaker 1>walk my big fluffy dog. I could use your advice

0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 1>after a traumatic experience. By the way, this is a

0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:23.400
<v Speaker 1>little bit long, but it's because we have an update

0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 1>from her. I was twelve weeks pregnant with my first

0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 1>pregnancy when I had a miscarriage. My husband and I

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 1>were super excited to be parents and absolutely devastated when

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 1>we lost the baby. As I write this, it's been

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 1>seven weeks since I had the miscarriage and no matter

0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:39.799
<v Speaker 1>how much positivity I try to channel, it wasn't meant

0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:42.120
<v Speaker 1>to be. My life is still abundant without a baby,

0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:45.440
<v Speaker 1>et cetera. I cannot stop going down negative spirals of

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:47.439
<v Speaker 1>how there is a chance I'll never be a mother.

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:50.920
<v Speaker 1>It consumes me and is bringing my husband down. I've

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:54.319
<v Speaker 1>tried gratitude, journaling every morning, charging crystals under the moon,

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:57.319
<v Speaker 1>writing down affirmations, and no matter what I do, I

0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:59.960
<v Speaker 1>have this sinking fear that I'll never have a baby again.

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:02.319
<v Speaker 1>I know that you have no desire to be a mother,

0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:04.839
<v Speaker 1>but any advice on how to reframe the narrative into

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Speaker 1>a positive so I can move on? And so then

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:10.799
<v Speaker 1>she sent an update while we were getting scheduled. A

0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:13.480
<v Speaker 1>recent update. I just found out a week ago that

0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm pregnant again. I am, of course, so thrilled and

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:19.360
<v Speaker 1>grateful I was able to conceive again, but I'm so

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 1>terrified of having another miscarriage that it consumes my thoughts.

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:25.840
<v Speaker 1>That sinking feeling of never being a mother again that

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned in my first email, It's still very much there,

0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:32.279
<v Speaker 1>It's just taken a different form. I cry almost every

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 1>day and have had anxiety dreams, fearing that the most

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:37.600
<v Speaker 1>traumatic thing that's ever happened to me is going to

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:41.319
<v Speaker 1>happen again. Weirdly enough, that jealousy I have of other

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:44.759
<v Speaker 1>new mothers and pregnant women is still here too. I'm

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:47.839
<v Speaker 1>jealous that they're excited and planning baby showers when I'm

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:50.840
<v Speaker 1>crippled by anxiety and find myself almost waiting for the

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:53.120
<v Speaker 1>other shoe to drop. I really do not want this

0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:56.439
<v Speaker 1>to turn into a self fulfilling prophecy. My husband does

0:37:56.440 --> 0:37:58.799
<v Speaker 1>his best to reassure me, but the reality is he

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:02.000
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know that everything will be okay. Physically bleeding out

0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:04.400
<v Speaker 1>your baby after seeing its heartbeat on screen is not

0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:07.439
<v Speaker 1>something a man can fully comprehend. He lost his first

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 1>child too, but my anxiety of that happening again runs

0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:13.399
<v Speaker 1>far deeper than his. I know that it's not good

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:16.240
<v Speaker 1>for me, the baby, or my marriage. Please help Brook.

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:20.239
<v Speaker 1>Hi Brook, Hi Chelsea, how are you hi? This is

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:22.960
<v Speaker 1>my good friend, Jamie Greenberg. She's our guest today. She's

0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:26.920
<v Speaker 1>my makeup artist and buddy. Hi Jamie, Hi, how are you?

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:30.439
<v Speaker 1>So good to meet you? You too? You are a mother,

0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:33.640
<v Speaker 1>So why don't you speak to this first before I

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:36.440
<v Speaker 1>weigh in? Okay? So first, of all i've I've also

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:40.040
<v Speaker 1>had miscarriages. My first time I was pregnant, I had

0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:43.839
<v Speaker 1>a miscarriage, and I know exactly how you feel. And

0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:47.440
<v Speaker 1>it is a death and there is grief. You seem

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:50.240
<v Speaker 1>to be paralyzed by the grief. The thing about children.

0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:52.560
<v Speaker 1>When you have a child, I mean, your mind is

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:54.160
<v Speaker 1>always going to go to a dark place, and you

0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:57.440
<v Speaker 1>have to start now while you're preparing to train your

0:38:57.440 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 1>brain not to be like, well, if they sleep out,

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:01.319
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna die. If they drink that, they're gonna die.

0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:02.879
<v Speaker 1>If they go on the field trip, they're gonna crash.

0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:06.360
<v Speaker 1>Because you won't live. You're you're pretty much a prisoner

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:09.400
<v Speaker 1>of fear. So I don't know if there's a therapist

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:11.600
<v Speaker 1>that you could get into some therapy, or if there

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 1>is like a light antidepressant you could take. It's amazing

0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:17.319
<v Speaker 1>what antidepressants could do. Some of them you can take

0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:20.120
<v Speaker 1>when you're pregnant. Some you can't think, So maybe you

0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:22.480
<v Speaker 1>could take I don't know. I'm not a doctor, but

0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 1>I am, and you should talk to your doctor about

0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:26.800
<v Speaker 1>what would be good, what would be best for you.

0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Anti anxiety sounds like too, you know not, And I

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:33.160
<v Speaker 1>mean because You're anxious. That's what this is, right, Yeah, yeah,

0:39:33.200 --> 0:39:35.919
<v Speaker 1>which can present as depression. But you're just nervous, which

0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:37.759
<v Speaker 1>is so normal. I mean, do you know how I'm

0:39:37.800 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 1>common this is with women? Yeah, it's apparently it's one

0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 1>in four pregnancies and in miscarriage, which is unbelievable, but

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 1>it's crazy. I've had three miscarriages, Brooke, Wow, so it

0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:53.640
<v Speaker 1>can happen again. But it's okay and it's normal. And

0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:55.840
<v Speaker 1>that's what my doctor said. Your body is doing its job.

0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 1>That baby wasn't meant to be here because of whatever reason.

0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 1>You want to healthy baby, and your body is doing

0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:04.200
<v Speaker 1>its job. So I know it's really hard to switch

0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:06.360
<v Speaker 1>that and like just say thank you to yourself, but

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:09.000
<v Speaker 1>you have to start getting into that mind space. You're

0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:12.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna be such a better wife, mother and human because

0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:15.319
<v Speaker 1>you are also yourself. You're not just a wife and

0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:18.800
<v Speaker 1>a mother, You're you and you have to treat yourself good,

0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:21.960
<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, And I think you should wake up

0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:24.759
<v Speaker 1>every day and just write down fifteen times in a row,

0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:27.600
<v Speaker 1>thank you for this pregnancy, thank you for this pregnancy,

0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:29.960
<v Speaker 1>thank you for this pregnancy, and you know, to just

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:32.879
<v Speaker 1>change the drumbeat that's going on in your head and

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:35.680
<v Speaker 1>shift the narrative because you do have the power to

0:40:35.719 --> 0:40:38.560
<v Speaker 1>do that, you really do. There's plenty of meditation apps

0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:41.840
<v Speaker 1>that are gonna have be pregnancy specific, to calm down

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:45.080
<v Speaker 1>your nerves, to calm your anxiety, to take it down,

0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:48.760
<v Speaker 1>and to be grateful instead of fearful. They talk about

0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:52.720
<v Speaker 1>how gratitude leads to abundance. That's true. Your attitude does matter,

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:55.359
<v Speaker 1>and it's not like your anxiety is going to kill

0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:58.840
<v Speaker 1>your baby. But it's not helping anything, and it's certainly

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:02.120
<v Speaker 1>not helping you. So why not just figure out all

0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:05.000
<v Speaker 1>the tools that you can, you know, access and look online.

0:41:05.320 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Now everything is online, like these pregnancy support groups people

0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:11.680
<v Speaker 1>who have had miscarriage support groups. Just google that and

0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:14.320
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna find a bunch of women that feel exactly

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:16.239
<v Speaker 1>that the way that you do. That also are going

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:18.560
<v Speaker 1>to have tools and coping mechanisms that you may not

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:21.440
<v Speaker 1>know about. It's so true. I mean the first miscarriage

0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I had, I had something called a mular pregnancy. Google it.

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:26.239
<v Speaker 1>It's a whole thing. Anyway. I was had never heard

0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:28.319
<v Speaker 1>of it before, and I remember I went on like

0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Oprah's website. This was before christ I went on Oprah's

0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:33.800
<v Speaker 1>website and was like, you should have a show about

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:37.279
<v Speaker 1>Muller pregnancies. And I was like so depressed. I mean,

0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 1>it was a death. I know how you feel. And

0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:44.839
<v Speaker 1>I found this weird chat room in London in the UK,

0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:47.680
<v Speaker 1>and everybody there had gone through what I had gone through,

0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:50.359
<v Speaker 1>and we all like emailed each other and gave each

0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:52.240
<v Speaker 1>other tips and tricks, and it made me feel not alone.

0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:54.840
<v Speaker 1>You're not alone. And no one talks about this because

0:41:55.080 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 1>it's you just don't want to go around talking about

0:41:57.120 --> 0:41:59.440
<v Speaker 1>death all the time. But it's so common. It's more

0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:03.840
<v Speaker 1>common having a healthy pregnancy sometimes, you know, so figure

0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:06.520
<v Speaker 1>out what you need to do to get happy, because

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:11.920
<v Speaker 1>it's just gonna it's gonna dictate how everything else goes. Yeah. Absolutely.

0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 1>I think the big thing I've been struggling with is

0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I do try really hard to be positive and I

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:20.640
<v Speaker 1>do my journaling every morning. I Chelsea, I like your

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:23.719
<v Speaker 1>idea of maybe being repetitive about the one thing that's

0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:25.960
<v Speaker 1>really on my mind. So I definitely would like to

0:42:26.000 --> 0:42:28.759
<v Speaker 1>try that. But it's almost like I say things like

0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:31.880
<v Speaker 1>I will have a baby, everything will be fine, and

0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:34.799
<v Speaker 1>I want to do that I really want to believe it,

0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 1>and then there's like this little voice in my head

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:39.880
<v Speaker 1>that's like do I believe that? What if that's not true?

0:42:40.280 --> 0:42:41.960
<v Speaker 1>And then it's sort of like I go back into

0:42:41.960 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 1>the spiral. So do you have any tips for that? Well,

0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:47.440
<v Speaker 1>we all have that voice that's like the devil on

0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:49.920
<v Speaker 1>our shoulder. It's called our shadow. That's what like the

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:53.960
<v Speaker 1>where our bad thoughts come from. And pushing that away

0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:56.799
<v Speaker 1>you have to acknowledge that, you know, that's not your

0:42:57.000 --> 0:42:59.080
<v Speaker 1>that's not who you are, that is a part of you.

0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:01.640
<v Speaker 1>We all have a shadow. We all have someone telling

0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:03.520
<v Speaker 1>us we're not good enough, we're not smart enough. You're

0:43:03.520 --> 0:43:05.719
<v Speaker 1>not gonna get this. Everything's gonna fall to ship. You're

0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:07.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna lose this, You're gonna lose that, You're gonna run

0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 1>out of money, and then you're gonna you know, each

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:12.359
<v Speaker 1>it and die. Everyone has that voice. You're not the

0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 1>only person that has it. The difference that you could

0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:17.239
<v Speaker 1>make in your own life is by saying like, that's

0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:20.120
<v Speaker 1>my voice, that's my shadow, that's it, I have it.

0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:22.120
<v Speaker 1>You can hear that once in a while, but you

0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:24.239
<v Speaker 1>can't let it run you. You know what I mean.

0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:27.000
<v Speaker 1>You're in charge of you, not that little voice in

0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:28.759
<v Speaker 1>your head, you know. And the minute you let that

0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:32.360
<v Speaker 1>voice take over, and it's the only way that you think,

0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:35.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, even that's salvageable, you can even still get

0:43:35.960 --> 0:43:38.520
<v Speaker 1>back from that, but then you've lost your voice, which

0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:40.879
<v Speaker 1>is the big voice. That's the little voice, and you're

0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 1>the big voice, and you have to just be in charge,

0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:45.719
<v Speaker 1>you know. And even if it's a matter of repeating

0:43:45.760 --> 0:43:48.080
<v Speaker 1>that exercise, you know, writing it down fifteen times, if

0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:49.799
<v Speaker 1>you feel like that does something for you, then every

0:43:49.840 --> 0:43:52.520
<v Speaker 1>time you feel like that voice is overpowering you, you

0:43:52.560 --> 0:43:55.160
<v Speaker 1>can do that. You should start meditating, because that is

0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:57.799
<v Speaker 1>quieting of the mind. And what meditation does for me

0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:01.680
<v Speaker 1>is always quiet that voice. It always just like puts

0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:04.200
<v Speaker 1>me in touch with earth, the reason that I'm here,

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:07.160
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, like my body, and it's like,

0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:10.520
<v Speaker 1>stop thinking about all the little little negative things. Just

0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:13.719
<v Speaker 1>connect with the fact that you're here on earth and

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:16.440
<v Speaker 1>you're a living, breathing person and you have an impact

0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:20.360
<v Speaker 1>on people. Mm hmmm. Yeah. I actually tried meditation for

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:23.960
<v Speaker 1>the first time yesterday and I really enjoyed it. And

0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:26.279
<v Speaker 1>some what you just said about feeling like you have

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:28.480
<v Speaker 1>an impact on people. I've been trying really hard to

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:32.640
<v Speaker 1>actually find the positive of what happened, because that was

0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:35.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of making me feel better, like maybe it happened

0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:37.919
<v Speaker 1>for a reason. And even something like this of having

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:41.480
<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to share my story and connect with other

0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:44.480
<v Speaker 1>women because I know there's so many women suffering in silence,

0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:47.480
<v Speaker 1>it makes me feel like maybe I can help other

0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 1>people feel better too. Great. There you go. That's the

0:44:51.080 --> 0:44:53.000
<v Speaker 1>first that's going to get you out of your own

0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:55.120
<v Speaker 1>head right away. When you're talking to other people about

0:44:55.120 --> 0:44:58.600
<v Speaker 1>their stuff, you don't have the time for your negative thoughts.

0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:00.760
<v Speaker 1>And I love that you said you love meditating, because

0:45:00.840 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 1>sometimes for people it takes so long to love it.

0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:06.360
<v Speaker 1>So that use that as a science to start implementing

0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:09.319
<v Speaker 1>that into your daily life. Meditate every morning when you

0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:12.319
<v Speaker 1>wake up, do a gratitude meditation for where you are now.

0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:14.360
<v Speaker 1>You are going to be able to help people. I

0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:19.439
<v Speaker 1>believe that just you calling is helping somebody listening. That's

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:21.520
<v Speaker 1>very true, and that makes me feel a lot better.

0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Yeah you got this, Brook. I would also

0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:29.160
<v Speaker 1>recommend just specifically around your body. You're going through a

0:45:29.200 --> 0:45:32.719
<v Speaker 1>trauma that is body related and it probably feels like

0:45:32.719 --> 0:45:36.120
<v Speaker 1>your body betrayed you. One of my mentors that always said,

0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:38.440
<v Speaker 1>if you're going through a trauma or a grief, triple

0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:41.160
<v Speaker 1>yourself care and for you, I think doing stuff that

0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:45.319
<v Speaker 1>specifically as around your body. Taking long baths if that's

0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:49.120
<v Speaker 1>your thing, doing like a luxurious scrub, going to get

0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:52.560
<v Speaker 1>a massage, doing things to to treat your body in

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:56.480
<v Speaker 1>a way that makes you feel valued and good and

0:45:56.600 --> 0:46:00.439
<v Speaker 1>indulgent and positive about your body. Again, my be something

0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:04.440
<v Speaker 1>that's really helpful. That's a really good to chime in. Last. Also,

0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:07.279
<v Speaker 1>just because I've done this and I've I've done I've

0:46:07.320 --> 0:46:10.400
<v Speaker 1>had a lot of medical things within my family, you

0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:13.800
<v Speaker 1>have to be your own advocate. You know, it's really crazy,

0:46:13.840 --> 0:46:16.640
<v Speaker 1>but there's no gynecologist that's gonna say, hey, sorry about

0:46:16.640 --> 0:46:18.600
<v Speaker 1>your miscarriage. Here is a list of things that it's

0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:20.320
<v Speaker 1>going to make you feel better, and you should probably

0:46:20.360 --> 0:46:22.319
<v Speaker 1>go do this, and you should do that. You're gonna

0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:24.759
<v Speaker 1>have to seek it out and find what makes you

0:46:24.760 --> 0:46:29.480
<v Speaker 1>feel better, if that's acupuncture, meditation, getting on antidepressants, taking

0:46:29.480 --> 0:46:33.239
<v Speaker 1>a job. I run. I run my anxiety every day

0:46:33.360 --> 0:46:36.799
<v Speaker 1>and that works. So stay busy when you're feeling the

0:46:36.840 --> 0:46:39.200
<v Speaker 1>most paralyzed because it's going to take your mind and

0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:43.200
<v Speaker 1>that ego voice out of controlling you, you know, find

0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:45.680
<v Speaker 1>out what Brook likes and take care of yourself because

0:46:45.719 --> 0:46:48.600
<v Speaker 1>no one is going to help you do that. Absolutely,

0:46:48.800 --> 0:46:51.720
<v Speaker 1>I've been loving walking my dog every day and listening

0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:56.680
<v Speaker 1>to your podcast'll see. I love that. I do want

0:46:56.680 --> 0:46:58.960
<v Speaker 1>to tell you. Actually I let Katherine know this, but

0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:01.440
<v Speaker 1>the first time I ever listened to your podcast was

0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:04.120
<v Speaker 1>actually when I came back from the hospital after it

0:47:04.200 --> 0:47:07.480
<v Speaker 1>happened and I had to go walk my dog and

0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I usually listened to True crime, and I was like,

0:47:09.600 --> 0:47:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I can't do that right now, Like I need something funny,

0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:14.560
<v Speaker 1>and I you know, I read all your books and

0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I loved them, and I was like, I wonder if

0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Chelsea Handler has a podcast, and you did, and I've

0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:22.520
<v Speaker 1>listened to it every day since and I'm I love

0:47:22.560 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 1>it obviously. I love how it's funny but positive and uplifting.

0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:28.560
<v Speaker 1>So thank you so much for helping me get through

0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:30.920
<v Speaker 1>that really hard time. Oh my god, I'm looking now

0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:36.960
<v Speaker 1>you're on the podcast. I know it's crazy. Yeah, I

0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:39.640
<v Speaker 1>love that. I love that you are going to help people.

0:47:39.719 --> 0:47:43.560
<v Speaker 1>I can see it. You are, Yeah, and good luck

0:47:43.600 --> 0:47:46.839
<v Speaker 1>with everything. Everything's gonna be fine. Thank you, Everything's gonna

0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:50.359
<v Speaker 1>be okay. I needed to hear that. Thank you all right,

0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:53.239
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, Brooke, keep us posted. Okay, thank

0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:57.239
<v Speaker 1>you guys. Bye, Brook, bye bye. Nice to meet you.

0:47:58.040 --> 0:48:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh so sweetly love that. I was about to announce

0:48:02.920 --> 0:48:04.880
<v Speaker 1>your miscarriages for you, and I was like, let me

0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:13.120
<v Speaker 1>let Jamie actually speak to that, because miscarriages. I've had three. Yeah, yeah,

0:48:13.160 --> 0:48:16.759
<v Speaker 1>that's a lot devastating. Were they all as devastating as

0:48:16.840 --> 0:48:20.040
<v Speaker 1>the first one? I mean they're all devastating, but the

0:48:20.080 --> 0:48:22.680
<v Speaker 1>first one was like, it's because you don't have any kids,

0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:24.520
<v Speaker 1>so you think something's wrong. I'm never gonna have kids.

0:48:24.560 --> 0:48:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I felt the same way she did. And now look

0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:30.479
<v Speaker 1>I have three kids and I run away from them exactly. Book.

0:48:30.480 --> 0:48:32.759
<v Speaker 1>You're going to be there soon. Yeah, you'll be in

0:48:32.880 --> 0:48:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Italy soon. Brook. Would you like to come to Spain?

0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:41.719
<v Speaker 1>We have an opening. I feel like there is this

0:48:42.360 --> 0:48:45.120
<v Speaker 1>to me, It feels dated. Advice of like don't tell

0:48:45.160 --> 0:48:48.560
<v Speaker 1>anybody until the second trimester because what if something happens.

0:48:48.600 --> 0:48:51.080
<v Speaker 1>But what that then does is leave women in this

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:54.680
<v Speaker 1>position where if they do miscarry, their completely alone, their

0:48:54.719 --> 0:48:57.600
<v Speaker 1>families don't know what they're going through. What do you

0:48:57.680 --> 0:49:00.399
<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts about that? I mean, I think

0:49:00.400 --> 0:49:02.640
<v Speaker 1>you're right. I think that's like an old way of thinking.

0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:06.799
<v Speaker 1>It's like don't say the sea word or don't tell anyone. No,

0:49:07.040 --> 0:49:09.520
<v Speaker 1>you need your support system, you need your friends. I

0:49:09.640 --> 0:49:11.319
<v Speaker 1>was a blabber mouth. I would tell I'd be like,

0:49:11.400 --> 0:49:13.200
<v Speaker 1>my husband would be like, don't tell anyone. I'm like okay,

0:49:13.239 --> 0:49:15.560
<v Speaker 1>and I'd like tell ten of my friends. And then

0:49:15.680 --> 0:49:17.760
<v Speaker 1>when I had the miscarriage, I had those ten friends

0:49:17.800 --> 0:49:20.560
<v Speaker 1>to support me rather than having to tell the story again.

0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:23.520
<v Speaker 1>It's like, if people are in your life, they're in

0:49:23.560 --> 0:49:26.719
<v Speaker 1>your life for everything, not just like the good news. Yeah,

0:49:26.760 --> 0:49:28.600
<v Speaker 1>it's also yeah, it's also a great way to wead

0:49:28.640 --> 0:49:30.600
<v Speaker 1>people out if they're not there for you. You know,

0:49:30.719 --> 0:49:33.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm all about sharing everything. One of the best things

0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:36.040
<v Speaker 1>in life to learn is to ask for help, because

0:49:36.160 --> 0:49:39.760
<v Speaker 1>people really want to give it, and there's no shortage

0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:41.840
<v Speaker 1>of that. Even though if you even though you know

0:49:41.920 --> 0:49:44.440
<v Speaker 1>you may think, oh, people are selfish, they're not interested,

0:49:44.480 --> 0:49:46.960
<v Speaker 1>they're too busy. People want to be there for you.

0:49:47.880 --> 0:49:50.640
<v Speaker 1>I I want to be there for strangers, so I

0:49:50.680 --> 0:49:53.520
<v Speaker 1>know that this is true for so many people that

0:49:53.640 --> 0:49:56.279
<v Speaker 1>want to help, and you know, asking for help is

0:49:56.320 --> 0:49:58.920
<v Speaker 1>just like such a lift off of your shoulders. It

0:49:58.920 --> 0:50:01.040
<v Speaker 1>feels so good to get love back when you need

0:50:01.040 --> 0:50:06.520
<v Speaker 1>it in those dark times. Agree well, Our last question

0:50:06.880 --> 0:50:11.000
<v Speaker 1>comes from a. A says Dear Chelsea. I'm hoping you

0:50:11.000 --> 0:50:13.640
<v Speaker 1>can offer advice on how to get started with therapy,

0:50:13.960 --> 0:50:16.960
<v Speaker 1>not the finding the therapist part, but how to actually

0:50:16.960 --> 0:50:19.560
<v Speaker 1>talk with someone. I don't exactly know what I want

0:50:19.600 --> 0:50:22.000
<v Speaker 1>to work on or where to begin, but I definitely

0:50:22.040 --> 0:50:24.359
<v Speaker 1>know that I do have things to work on and

0:50:24.360 --> 0:50:27.080
<v Speaker 1>to work through. I have a lot of unresolved childhood

0:50:27.120 --> 0:50:31.680
<v Speaker 1>trauma and complex parent relationships still lingering, and I mostly

0:50:31.719 --> 0:50:34.440
<v Speaker 1>shove them down and try to ignore it. Up to

0:50:34.520 --> 0:50:37.600
<v Speaker 1>this point. I've self medicated quote unquote with self help

0:50:37.640 --> 0:50:40.920
<v Speaker 1>books and podcasts, but my experiences are pretty unique, and

0:50:40.920 --> 0:50:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I know one to one therapy would be beneficial to

0:50:43.120 --> 0:50:45.759
<v Speaker 1>me at this point, But how do I start? For years,

0:50:45.800 --> 0:50:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I put off therapy because I felt like I couldn't

0:50:48.200 --> 0:50:50.440
<v Speaker 1>afford it or access it. But I can no longer

0:50:50.560 --> 0:50:53.319
<v Speaker 1>use that excuse. I think what truly holds me back

0:50:53.400 --> 0:50:56.560
<v Speaker 1>is just nervousness around getting started and facing it. Like

0:50:56.600 --> 0:51:00.279
<v Speaker 1>where do you begin the initial consultation, the first meeting

0:51:00.280 --> 0:51:02.520
<v Speaker 1>with your therapist. I find that part to be the

0:51:02.520 --> 0:51:04.640
<v Speaker 1>most daunting. I just freeze at the thought of it.

0:51:04.880 --> 0:51:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Please help a well, okay, she or he said that

0:51:08.600 --> 0:51:10.560
<v Speaker 1>they didn't want, they didn't need to know how to

0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:13.560
<v Speaker 1>find a therapist, right, they just how to start. Okay,

0:51:13.760 --> 0:51:15.799
<v Speaker 1>I'll say this to you. Listen like this is a

0:51:15.800 --> 0:51:18.520
<v Speaker 1>bit a big topic of conversation in my life for

0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:23.640
<v Speaker 1>a long time. That you are postponing your true purpose

0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:27.239
<v Speaker 1>and potential when you do not look inward, when you

0:51:27.320 --> 0:51:30.640
<v Speaker 1>are put off facing what is has happened to you,

0:51:30.800 --> 0:51:33.359
<v Speaker 1>and something has happened to every single person, you are

0:51:33.400 --> 0:51:36.520
<v Speaker 1>postponing your true potential. You don't even know what is

0:51:36.560 --> 0:51:39.120
<v Speaker 1>on the other side. And yes it is it's a

0:51:39.200 --> 0:51:42.640
<v Speaker 1>daunting task, but you're courageous and your brave when you

0:51:42.719 --> 0:51:46.439
<v Speaker 1>take that step. I won't ever date somebody who isn't

0:51:46.440 --> 0:51:48.840
<v Speaker 1>in therapy or has been to therapy because it is

0:51:48.840 --> 0:51:51.680
<v Speaker 1>such a valuable tool. You are going to learn skill

0:51:51.719 --> 0:51:53.560
<v Speaker 1>sets that you didn't even think you needed to have.

0:51:54.239 --> 0:51:56.799
<v Speaker 1>And you're not only going to better yourself, you're gonna

0:51:56.800 --> 0:51:59.400
<v Speaker 1>better your relationship with people, and you're gonna better your

0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:01.920
<v Speaker 1>understanding of other people, and your life is going to

0:52:02.000 --> 0:52:04.720
<v Speaker 1>be richer. And that takes a little bit of work,

0:52:04.960 --> 0:52:06.880
<v Speaker 1>and you have to be willing to commit to going

0:52:07.280 --> 0:52:10.520
<v Speaker 1>and doing that work. And being honest with somebody is

0:52:10.560 --> 0:52:14.040
<v Speaker 1>going to lighten your load. Getting things off your chest

0:52:14.120 --> 0:52:18.120
<v Speaker 1>that have been stirring and harming you emotionally in ways

0:52:18.160 --> 0:52:21.839
<v Speaker 1>that are seen and unseen. And talking about that with

0:52:21.920 --> 0:52:27.080
<v Speaker 1>somebody a professional does wonders for your psychology. It helps

0:52:27.120 --> 0:52:30.839
<v Speaker 1>you in ways that are immeasurable. And I can't say

0:52:30.840 --> 0:52:34.440
<v Speaker 1>it enough that you know, get started now right away.

0:52:34.520 --> 0:52:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Go find somebody, and if that's not the right person,

0:52:36.600 --> 0:52:39.680
<v Speaker 1>then go find another person. But do not be You

0:52:39.719 --> 0:52:42.960
<v Speaker 1>have to be indefatigable in your pursuit of your therapy.

0:52:43.360 --> 0:52:45.840
<v Speaker 1>You have to go for it, like go be brave.

0:52:46.040 --> 0:52:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Just think about that. Do you want to be brave

0:52:47.920 --> 0:52:49.880
<v Speaker 1>or do you want to be a pussy? Yeah? And

0:52:49.960 --> 0:52:52.640
<v Speaker 1>do you want to like reap the rewards of how

0:52:52.680 --> 0:52:55.480
<v Speaker 1>good your life can get by you know, getting through

0:52:55.520 --> 0:52:57.960
<v Speaker 1>all the dark stuff, getting through the muck. You The

0:52:58.000 --> 0:53:00.480
<v Speaker 1>only person in your way is you. And like you said,

0:53:00.520 --> 0:53:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I do think that's good to point out, is that

0:53:02.360 --> 0:53:04.279
<v Speaker 1>sometimes the therapist. You go too, might not be right

0:53:04.320 --> 0:53:06.880
<v Speaker 1>for you. It's like dating. So find one that you

0:53:06.920 --> 0:53:10.200
<v Speaker 1>feel really completely yourself with that you can strip down

0:53:10.200 --> 0:53:13.880
<v Speaker 1>all this trauma, get it out. You'll flourish like a flower.

0:53:13.960 --> 0:53:15.839
<v Speaker 1>You need you need to do it. And we only

0:53:15.840 --> 0:53:18.320
<v Speaker 1>have one life here, so don't waste any more time.

0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:22.640
<v Speaker 1>That's right. People are dying every day, every day, so

0:53:22.719 --> 0:53:26.560
<v Speaker 1>good to therapy today. Well let's take a quick break

0:53:26.600 --> 0:53:33.680
<v Speaker 1>and we'll be right back with Jamie Greenberg and Chelsea.

0:53:34.520 --> 0:53:37.799
<v Speaker 1>And we're back, Jamie Petter under we're back on. Thank you,

0:53:38.120 --> 0:53:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Jamie Brad you can come back it now. Sorry, Well, Jamie,

0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:44.960
<v Speaker 1>is there any advice you'd like to get from Chelsea?

0:53:45.360 --> 0:53:50.399
<v Speaker 1>I do have a juicy question. How do you make

0:53:50.400 --> 0:53:52.880
<v Speaker 1>your motster ball soup? No, that's not it. Okay, this

0:53:52.960 --> 0:53:54.200
<v Speaker 1>is a good one I was thinking about. I was

0:53:54.200 --> 0:53:56.200
<v Speaker 1>talking about with my girlfriends from high school and I

0:53:56.239 --> 0:54:00.000
<v Speaker 1>was in New York. So I have a friend. Well

0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:02.040
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a sister of one of my friends from

0:54:02.120 --> 0:54:07.560
<v Speaker 1>high school. She is in her early thirties, she's single,

0:54:08.560 --> 0:54:12.799
<v Speaker 1>and she is dating an ex boyfriend of hers that

0:54:12.840 --> 0:54:15.160
<v Speaker 1>she dated in her twenties and now a decade and

0:54:15.200 --> 0:54:18.799
<v Speaker 1>a half have gone by. She's dating him again on

0:54:18.840 --> 0:54:24.279
<v Speaker 1>the side, but he is married with a child, and

0:54:24.360 --> 0:54:29.839
<v Speaker 1>he's miserable in his marriage and the wife is miserable,

0:54:30.000 --> 0:54:32.960
<v Speaker 1>and she feels like it's not that big of a

0:54:33.040 --> 0:54:36.600
<v Speaker 1>deal because they had a past and they're both miserable.

0:54:36.680 --> 0:54:38.840
<v Speaker 1>But you know, it's still dicey, and she's like, I

0:54:38.840 --> 0:54:40.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know what to do, and I was like, I

0:54:40.440 --> 0:54:43.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know what to tell you. Let me ask Chelsea, Jared, Chelsea,

0:54:44.800 --> 0:54:47.279
<v Speaker 1>what do you think? I mean? It's so it's like

0:54:49.880 --> 0:54:51.600
<v Speaker 1>if I was if I was more at the store,

0:54:51.719 --> 0:54:53.959
<v Speaker 1>I would say, I hope that that woman passes away

0:54:54.000 --> 0:54:56.439
<v Speaker 1>soon so I can marry her. In a nice, delicate way,

0:54:56.920 --> 0:55:00.239
<v Speaker 1>I think that it's just not good vibrations to be

0:55:00.280 --> 0:55:03.560
<v Speaker 1>participating in an affair. That's what you're doing. It doesn't

0:55:03.560 --> 0:55:07.080
<v Speaker 1>matter how miserable either of those people are. He can

0:55:07.160 --> 0:55:10.120
<v Speaker 1>leave his wife and end his marriage, and he should

0:55:10.200 --> 0:55:14.279
<v Speaker 1>if he's so unhappy. And also, I understand you have

0:55:14.320 --> 0:55:16.080
<v Speaker 1>a history with him, so that gives you a little

0:55:16.080 --> 0:55:18.880
<v Speaker 1>bit like I know psychologically what you're saying to yourself,

0:55:18.880 --> 0:55:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Like he was mine before he was hers, and we

0:55:20.719 --> 0:55:24.279
<v Speaker 1>have a history. It's still not right morally, you can

0:55:24.320 --> 0:55:27.120
<v Speaker 1>control yourself. He got a little taste of what could happen,

0:55:27.280 --> 0:55:29.399
<v Speaker 1>right if he wants to leave his wife and start

0:55:29.400 --> 0:55:31.960
<v Speaker 1>a life with you. So it's out there, he knows,

0:55:32.400 --> 0:55:35.000
<v Speaker 1>and you should draw that delineation and line in the

0:55:35.000 --> 0:55:37.400
<v Speaker 1>sand and say, like, listen, I'll be with you, but

0:55:37.480 --> 0:55:39.440
<v Speaker 1>I can't have an affair with you while you're married anymore.

0:55:39.440 --> 0:55:41.640
<v Speaker 1>It's just not who I want to be, and especially

0:55:41.840 --> 0:55:44.239
<v Speaker 1>if there's a future ahead for both of you, that's

0:55:44.239 --> 0:55:48.319
<v Speaker 1>not who you want him to be. That is great advice. Yes,

0:55:48.800 --> 0:55:51.560
<v Speaker 1>great advice. I just dropped the bike, did hear it? Yes?

0:55:52.160 --> 0:55:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Put in this past. I was in the pouch, so

0:55:54.920 --> 0:55:59.560
<v Speaker 1>you might not have heard of the liquid Mike. Actually,

0:56:00.000 --> 0:56:02.760
<v Speaker 1>before we go, Jamie, can I ask you a makeup

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<v Speaker 1>questions struggled with forever. I fancy myself pretty good with makeup,

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<v Speaker 1>but whenever I put on mascara, I always get mascara

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<v Speaker 1>on my lid. As I'm putting it on, it swipes,

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<v Speaker 1>It ruins my eyeshadow. My whole situation. What do I do?

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<v Speaker 1>There's two things you can do, well, there's three things

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<v Speaker 1>you could do. The first is slow down, make your

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<v Speaker 1>makeup time and meditation. Honey, slow down, relax. It's part

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<v Speaker 1>of the self care. I know we don't have time

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<v Speaker 1>for that. So if you're not going to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>the second thing you could do is actually take something

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<v Speaker 1>like a credit card or a super food pouch, put

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<v Speaker 1>it behind on top of your eyes like this, you

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<v Speaker 1>put it, you lay it on top of your eyelid,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you brush your mascara against the card or

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<v Speaker 1>the super food pouch. And can you do that with

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<v Speaker 1>like a Q tip to just put like a que tip,

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<v Speaker 1>put a cute tip, yes, and then I can just

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<v Speaker 1>in case you don't have a credit card or a

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<v Speaker 1>superfood couch in your bathroom or a business card. I

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<v Speaker 1>always have credit cards in my bathrooms. Lastly, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a great trick. Do your masscarra and then wait till

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<v Speaker 1>it completely dries. And if you take an empty SPOOLI

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<v Speaker 1>which is usually on the end of like an eyebrow pencil,

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<v Speaker 1>those little spoolies, you can actually chip away and the

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<v Speaker 1>mass scarrow will flake right off. Most people go in

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<v Speaker 1>and then they try to take it off and they

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<v Speaker 1>smear it and then you have a mess. If you

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<v Speaker 1>actually wait for it to dry, you can just chip

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<v Speaker 1>it off. Wow. Wait what you know, what's funny. I've

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<v Speaker 1>done it to Chelsea before because we have issues with

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<v Speaker 1>my eyes. Jamie and I have issues. She likes to

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<v Speaker 1>I like to get her smoky. She's got her signature look.

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<v Speaker 1>She likes to put eyeliner on the inside of my

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<v Speaker 1>eyes all the way down to here so that I

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<v Speaker 1>look cross side when I take picture. Yes, I was like, hey, Jamie,

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<v Speaker 1>I should have a picture. I go, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to ever look like this again, Okay. And now when

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<v Speaker 1>I asked herre she's like, you said you didn't like yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>She's got her signature look. And every once in a

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<v Speaker 1>while we'll pop a little color in the eyeline or something.

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<v Speaker 1>But besides that, she knows what she likes and she's

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<v Speaker 1>sticking with it. But one time I did get a

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<v Speaker 1>little mascara on your eyelid. But if you wait, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I like, was like sorry, and I just scraped

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<v Speaker 1>it away. It just it just flecks right off like

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<v Speaker 1>dry paint. You know, dry paint. How you can just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like yeah, yeah, and do you put your

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<v Speaker 1>mascara on from that? You don't do it from the

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<v Speaker 1>top of the la because if you want to get

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<v Speaker 1>more mascara on your eyelid, that would be a good approach. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>straight in your mouth as wide as you can when

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<v Speaker 1>you're putting on your mascara. Why do we do that?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. This lighting is next level awesome. Look

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<v Speaker 1>at your Claudia Shiffer. I'm sitting next and you did

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<v Speaker 1>your makeup? Did somebody else do your make up? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll kill him. Cut a bit like in softball. Okay, Well, Jamie,

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<v Speaker 1>I love you. Come back and visit us. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you should be a regular. I love you, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for having me. Okay, Jamie makeup at Jamie Makeup.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys, go get some bloss blighter and make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you support planned parenthood. So if you'd like advice from Chelsea,

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