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Speaker 1: So today I'm going to be talking about how to

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Speaker 1: gear up for a marathon, talking about marathon race day

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Speaker 1: with the one the only vice president of fitness programming

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Speaker 1: at Peloton, twenty six time marathon or author of Shut

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Speaker 1: Up and Run, Miss Robin Arzon.

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Speaker 1: with me for episode twenty eight of the podcast November nineteenth,

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 3: It was right after New York.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's been a minute. Yes, happy to have

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Speaker 2: you back in the studio.

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Speaker 3: Likewise, I'm happy to be here.

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Speaker 2: So today we're talking about race day for marathon ors.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, some of the things that we chat about they'll

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Speaker 1: be applicable to racers of all types. But we're chatting

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Speaker 1: marathons because it's fall marathon season. There's Berlin on deck

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Speaker 1: this weekend. We've got Chicago in two weeks, New York

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Speaker 1: two weeks or three weeks after that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's an exciting time, it.

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Speaker 3: Really is, and it's the culmination of months of just

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Speaker 3: slogging it out, like there's so many footsteps.

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Speaker 1: I know, and I mean I'm sure as a twenty

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Speaker 1: six time marathon er, I mean this is a conversation

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Speaker 1: like what do I need to do for this one

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Speaker 1: day that you have had so many times with yourself

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Speaker 1: and then of course with your audience at Peloton and beyond.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean I would think the first thing

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Speaker 3: I like to remind myself is trust the training. It's

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Speaker 3: really natural during the taper to start to try to

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Speaker 3: it's like you just have to focus on what you

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Speaker 3: can control at that point and you can't rewind the tape.

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Speaker 3: You can't rewind the time, so you know, definitely like

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Speaker 3: attend to injuries, go to pt like do the things

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Speaker 3: that you have been doing. But that's will be a

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Speaker 3: little bit less harsh, Like we really get in our

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Speaker 3: it becomes palpably real. So I would tell folks trust

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Speaker 3: the training, focus on what you can control, and then

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Speaker 3: start to figure out like if your mind is running,

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Speaker 3: no one intend if your mind is kind of going,

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Speaker 3: you know, at all cylinders. Start to unpack things like

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Speaker 3: race day logistics, like your gear, where's your cheer squad

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Speaker 3: going to be? Like specific corner of X root. Start

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Speaker 3: to look at the root if that doesn't provide relief

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Speaker 3: and it makes you more anxious, do the stuff that

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Speaker 3: you've been postponing, like go to coffee with a friends,

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Speaker 2: It's okay to do that. I love it.

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Speaker 1: And that's a great piece of advice to kick us off.

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Speaker 1: You guys know the drill. If you have you guys

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Speaker 1: know the drill. If you are racing, if you are nervous,

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Speaker 1: if you have feedback, feel free to reach out to me.

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Speaker 1: It's Emily at Hurdle dot us. Also over on Instagram

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Speaker 1: at Emily Body, and at Hurdle Podcast Robin after they

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Speaker 1: listen to all of your words of wisdom, where do

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Speaker 1: they find you on social media?

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Speaker 3: I am at robin NYC robin NYC Robinarson dot com

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Speaker 3: and of course I am on peloton.

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Speaker 1: Every day every day. All right, with that, let's get

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Speaker 1: to hurdling. Okay, So it's race day. It has arrived. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So the first thing, the golden rule. I know you're

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Speaker 1: golden rule of race day, Robin, What is it?

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Speaker 3: Nothing new on race day, not.

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Speaker 2: Even rehearse just so.

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Speaker 1: I would say that's that's number one most important, So

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Speaker 1: talk to me about why that's so important.

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Speaker 3: You don't want to be putting anything on your body

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Speaker 3: or ingesting anything that you haven't rehearsed. You want to

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Speaker 3: think of all the training as multiple dress rehearsals for

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Speaker 3: that you may not have ever considered would annoy You

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Speaker 3: fastest runners in the world, So why would you insert

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Speaker 3: a variable that you're unsure about that even the race shirt,

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Speaker 3: multiple runs, it's it's off the table to put up

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Speaker 3: the cool stuff at the expo, Like stop buying crap

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Speaker 3: you don't need, like seriously, like just truck, Like know

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Speaker 3: what you've done in those twenty milers eighteen milers and

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Speaker 1: It's totally true, especially like the misplaced seem I have

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Speaker 1: a pair of luggings that I've worn so many times.

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Speaker 1: I didn't a lot of people have varying feelings on this,

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Speaker 1: but washing before you wear I'm like, eh, I can

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Speaker 1: wear it, then I can watch it.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, Okay, I'm glad I wore them. Now

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we've establed, so nothing new. On race day.

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Speaker 1: We talked about it in relevance to gear, but that

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Speaker 3: I mean nutrition is nutrition makes or breaks a race,

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Speaker 3: definitely do your research on what's going to be provided

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Speaker 3: Like just have everything on your person that you think

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Speaker 1: And I know obviously we're already talking about race day itself,

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Speaker 3: Even earlier in the process, if you can start to

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Speaker 3: start to create a ritual around how you're gonna fuel,

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: the essential time that you need to visualize. Okay, what

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Speaker 3: day before the race. It really works if you ritualize it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the best athletes in the world have mantras

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Speaker 3: like what I define as legacy. That is what I

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Speaker 3: pretty dramatic, but like, why shouldn't you start in your

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Speaker 1: Totally okay, So you're the star of your story. It's

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Speaker 1: race day. You wake up, you get your stuff on,

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Speaker 2: What and when to eat in the morning before a race.

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Speaker 2: So let's talk a little bit about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's talk about it. So for a race like

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Speaker 3: So I kind of plan my breakfast in two parts,

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Speaker 3: Like I'll eat like almond butter and toast and banana

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Speaker 1: Oh god, those next day stairs, they're always an adventure. Yes, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you have the opportunity right now to offer some last

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Speaker 2: What do you leave them with, Robin?

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Speaker 3: I want them to look in the mirror and bang

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Speaker 3: on their chest until they believe that they are a badass,

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Speaker 3: because it really takes looking yourself in the eyes and

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Speaker 3: being like, we're doing this today, And it might feel

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Speaker 3: silly at first, but there's something really powerful of moving

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Speaker 3: people drive, and that makes you a very special superhero.

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Speaker 3: So own that shit.

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Speaker 2: It's a unique opportunity and an exciting one.

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Speaker 3: Get that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, awesome, Robin, thanks so much for sitting down with

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Speaker 1: me today.

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Speaker 3: I'm so happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know it was long overdue, long overdue

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Speaker 1: again at Hurdle Podcast at Emilia Body at Robin Nyc

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Speaker 1: on Instagram. You guys know how to reach us. Another

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Speaker 1: hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time.