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Speaker 1: That's thirty percent of people's income state income tax, not

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Speaker 1: even talking about local. Then you got property tax on

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Speaker 1: if Newsom goes forward with that. But I think you'll

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Speaker 1: lose half the population of California if he post tries

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Speaker 1: to pull that off. But anyway, you bring up good

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Speaker 1: I understand it to some extent emotionally. You know, when

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Speaker 1: to worry about my healthcare. The government's going to provide

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Speaker 1: everything for me. It's it's for a piece some people.

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Speaker 1: It's emotionally gratifying and reassuring to people. But the reality

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Speaker 1: is every time it's been tried, every name it's been given,

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Speaker 1: every manifestation it's taken on, it all results in the

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Speaker 1: same thing. More poverty, broken promises, and a loss of freedom.

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Speaker 1: That's that's socialism, statism, authoritarianism, communism, it's all. It's it's

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Speaker 1: one and the same, you know, to varying degrees. Thank you, Mike,

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Speaker 1: was the Pons Craig, North Carolina. Craig, how are you

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Speaker 1: glad you called? Hey? Sean? Thanks taking my call. Um.

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Speaker 1: I just want to talk about something you've mentioned before

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Speaker 1: about school choice. And fundamentally and philosophically I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: But as I learned in grad school and economics with

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Speaker 1: that kind of drive things. One is opportunity matters. You're

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Speaker 1: going to take what your opportunity matters to you the most.

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Speaker 1: And then perverse incentives. And that's where I think both

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Speaker 1: of these play in. If you go to school choice,

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Speaker 1: which I totally agree with, but who's going to regulate it?

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Speaker 1: The school thing is, this is where there might be

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Speaker 1: a period of adjustment, and I actually have an idea

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Speaker 1: on how to transition to it, and part of it

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Speaker 1: may also be a permanent solution, and that is that

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Speaker 1: you create and there are already programs in place. For example,

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Speaker 1: we have a sell Us Learning is a homeschooling program

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Speaker 1: that even school districts are now paying for. Or you know,

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Speaker 1: Hillsdale Colleges is put together a kindergarten through twelfth grade

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Speaker 1: education model that they're using. The transition would be online

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Speaker 1: and you would have every single grade, every single class,

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Speaker 1: and an ability for people to transition at home, be

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Speaker 1: it with a tutor or with a parent, or with

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Speaker 1: a grandparent or with a neighbor. While the schools then

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Speaker 1: get up and running. And I'll tell you what schools

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Speaker 1: are going to be successful. The schools that put kids

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Speaker 1: in uniforms, insist on discipline that reinforce the fundamentals of reading, writing, math, computers, history,

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Speaker 1: American history especially, And I think those schools would I

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Speaker 1: think you'd have parents competing. Let me give you an

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Speaker 1: an example. You know, New York City public schools are

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Speaker 1: so bad that you have parents literally fighting to get

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Speaker 1: in early, then the next step, kindergarten that becomes harder.

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Speaker 1: They don't get into that school, first grade becomes almost impossible.

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Speaker 1: And it is and you're paying sixty sixty five seventy

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Speaker 1: grand a year to get into these these private, elite

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Speaker 1: schools in New York and it's you have no idea

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Speaker 1: what it takes. I know parents that have done this.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's so much ass kissing that goes on,

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Speaker 1: and yet you're involved in and you've got to know

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Speaker 1: the right people, and you've got your kindergartener has to

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Speaker 1: get interviewed. You know, it's Linda, you know, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. It's nuts it is insane. It's

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Speaker 1: like it's the first thing going to college. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: and they're fighting and scratching and clawing and and what school.

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Speaker 1: You're almost judged immediately. You know, if you don't get

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Speaker 1: in that system early, you're never getting in, or the

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Speaker 1: odds are very low, you're saying. But I still I

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Speaker 1: still suspect that when public school unions and public school

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Speaker 1: teachers and government officials realize they're going to be losing

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Speaker 1: control of the schools, they are going to find ways

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Speaker 1: to take away accreditation, to say this isn't working, or

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Speaker 1: you don't have access to public sports or varsity sports

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Speaker 1: in high school. That's that's my point. I think there

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Speaker 1: will be a lot of pushback, and if they lose

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Speaker 1: a battle on the choice of schools, then the next

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Speaker 1: step will be to stop it from happening, or to

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Speaker 1: discredit it and use it. Also, I'll give you a

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Speaker 1: quick example that I got to run. But both my kids,

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Speaker 1: who are athletes, and I just worked out a system

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Speaker 1: for each of them, individual system whereby you know, one

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Speaker 1: actually home school the last year of high school and

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Speaker 1: the other was getting out of class for the last

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Speaker 1: two or three years of high school. You know, wouldn't

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Speaker 1: take lunch, but getting out early for training, practice, etc.

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Speaker 1: Like one thirty in the afternoon, and that gave plenty

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Speaker 1: of time, you know, get up, you go to all

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Speaker 1: your classes, you get them out of the way, boom,

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Speaker 1: than you're free for the day. So there's ways around it. Um.

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Speaker 1: But but for most parents, you know, the athletic athletics

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Speaker 1: is not that important. But for many kids it's a ticket.

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Speaker 1: You know, they play lacrosse, if whatever, baseball, basketball doesn't matter, football,

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Speaker 1: any sport. You know, for a lot of kids it's

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Speaker 1: it's a ticket to a much better college than they

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Speaker 1: otherwise would have gotten into academically. Anyway, I appreciate your call.

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Speaker 1: I'm not cutting you short. I'm just out of time.

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Speaker 1: Eight hundred nine one Shaun is a number. Senator Roger

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