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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Hammer Territory Podcast. My name is Showing Coleman.

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Speaker 2: Hope.

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Speaker 1: Wherever you are and wherever you are listening, you're having

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Speaker 1: a great start to your Wednesday, awesome into your Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Of course, The Hammer Territory Podcast part of the Foul

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Speaker 1: Territory family of podcasts. Always a pleasure to be with

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Speaker 1: you once again here with my co host Stephen Tolbert. Stephen,

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Speaker 1: I told you before the show, I'm trying to be

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Speaker 1: as positive as possible, but I'm just gonna be honest.

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Speaker 1: There are very few times over the past few years

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Speaker 1: in doing these podcasts covering the Braise what have you,

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Speaker 1: that I've started off a podcast pissed off. I'm pissed

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Speaker 1: off tonight. I'll be honest with you. It was not

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Speaker 1: a fun night to watch Braves baseball. Just a miserable performance,

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Speaker 1: as you put.

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Speaker 3: It on X. Yeah, what's up, Sewan, It's a you know,

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Speaker 3: my normal tag line here is it's always good to

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Speaker 3: do these with you, But I don't know tonight, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: That was miserable baseball that we watched tonight. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that was just miserable baseball. We're recording this on Tuesday, night,

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Speaker 3: right after the first game against the Cubs, and the

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Speaker 3: Braves just got walked off in ten innings, And I

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Speaker 3: mean it was just, I mean just the offense has

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Speaker 3: just been invisible for more than a month now. I mean,

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Speaker 3: the wind is blowing out in Wrigley Field, like that's

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Speaker 3: a that's a scenario where you typically score like seven

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Speaker 3: eight runs, especially a team as talented as this one.

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Speaker 3: They score three runs. I mean they all came early

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Speaker 3: in the game. The Brays have been doing this weird

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Speaker 3: thing where they can score a decent amount early in

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Speaker 3: the game and then just like after the fifth inning,

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Speaker 3: like I tweeted it out, like after the fifth inning.

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Speaker 3: In the last month, the Braves have like a SUBFRC

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Speaker 3: plus as a team, which is just but man, I

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Speaker 3: mean that just doesn't make any sense. Tonight was miserable

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Speaker 3: because they just had chance after chance after chance after

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Speaker 3: chance after chance and just did absolutely nothing with it.

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Speaker 3: And it's not like there were It's not just that.

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Speaker 3: It's not just the results. Honestly, that's not what pisses

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Speaker 3: me off. It's the quality of at bats that the

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Speaker 3: Braves are putting up right now that really annoys me.

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Speaker 3: Like that that ten thinning was just disgusting, Like Mattilsen's

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Speaker 3: having some atrocious at bats, Michael Harra, I mean, Michael

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Speaker 3: Harris had a home run tonight and still managed to

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Speaker 3: put up like four atrocious at bats, Like that's hard

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Speaker 3: to do, but that guy's got to learn how to

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Speaker 3: take a pitch. I mean, you know, Ozzi Albi's has

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Speaker 3: left like a small army on base the last three game.

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Speaker 3: Like it's just it's been bad. It's been very bad.

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Speaker 3: And you know, yeah, I'm frustrated. I know your first

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Speaker 3: sho I know Brace fans are frustrated. This is you know,

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Speaker 3: we try to stay pretty levelheaded about this stuff. It's

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Speaker 3: a long season. It's just may I think this one

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Speaker 3: is this one is a little worse than the rest,

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Speaker 3: just not just because of the Braves lost, but it's

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Speaker 3: how they lost. Dumb based running decisions, horrible offensive execution.

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Speaker 3: Can't even get a runner over. I mean the Braves

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Speaker 3: ended the tenth inning with a runner on first, Like,

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Speaker 3: they didn't even end the inning with a runner in

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Speaker 3: scoring position. That's how poorly they played that inning. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's just been brutal. But yeah, we're gonna get up.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get into it all, including the doubleheader, which

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Speaker 3: was another funday of Braves baseball. But yeah, well we'll

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Speaker 3: get into it.

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Speaker 1: All tonight, absolutely, And I want to keep it in context, right,

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Speaker 1: this was one of the more frustrating games that we

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Speaker 1: saw the Braves play all year, oh for fourteen with

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Speaker 1: runners in scoring position, and I want to keep it

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Speaker 1: in context with the fact that, yes, let's acknowledge it,

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Speaker 1: we're twenty seven and eighteen so far this year, still

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Speaker 1: nine games over five hundred. The Braves have struggled in

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Speaker 1: the month of May for years now. This is nothing new.

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Speaker 1: They have struggled in the month of May over the

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Speaker 1: past couple of years. They always seem to bounce back.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into a little bit later as to why

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Speaker 1: they have a good opportunity to bounce back over the

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Speaker 1: next few weeks. But it is a long season. There's

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Speaker 1: plenty of time and more than likely that I'm very

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Speaker 1: confident that they'll get back to normal Braze baseball in time.

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Speaker 1: But I do think that it's noteworthy just how long

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Speaker 1: we've been going through this for about a month now,

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Speaker 1: just how noteworthy their struggles are with runners in scoring position.

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Speaker 1: Steven we talked about it last week about when the

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Speaker 1: Braves offense really started to struggle, and that was back

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Speaker 1: towards the end of April. I point to April twenty sixth,

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Speaker 1: when we started having series where we faced really good

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Speaker 1: pitching staff. But since April twenty sixth until the present,

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Speaker 1: if you look at every team's production with runners in

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Speaker 1: to entering tonight, the Braves were last in overall played

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Speaker 1: appearances with runners in scoring position. They were last in

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Speaker 1: strikeout personage, meaning they were striking out more frequently than

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Speaker 1: any other team with runners in scoring position since April

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Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty six in walks and twenty eighth in ISO.

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Speaker 1: So yes, they've played the They've had the most off

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Speaker 1: days this season, so that may contribute to the plate appearances.

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Speaker 1: But what all those numbers come to mean is this,

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Speaker 1: they are having less overall opportunities to score than any

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Speaker 1: to your point, they're having the least frequency of productive

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Speaker 1: at bats the team right now is not hitting home runs,

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Speaker 1: but even more importantly that when they're not hitting home runs,

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Speaker 1: they're just in general struggling to create any sort of

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Speaker 1: consistency when it comes to scoring runs, and that keeps

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Speaker 1: rearing its ugly head and it makes play in winning

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Speaker 1: but a lot of it also just has to do

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Speaker 1: with this Braves team right now just cannot put together

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Speaker 1: the consistent productive at bats. It needs to be able

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Speaker 1: to score run if they're not hitting the home.

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Speaker 3: Run, yeah, I mean, and even when they hit a

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Speaker 3: home run, I mean, I mean, it's been solo shot

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Speaker 3: after solo shot. I think Arcia had a two run

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Speaker 3: homer tonight, but I mean they've been hitting a lot

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Speaker 3: of solo home runs that you know, when they've got

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Speaker 3: guys on base, they're doing very very little, which is

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Speaker 3: why they're scoring one at the most two run runs

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Speaker 3: at a time. I mean, yeah, and it's been everybody.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Acunya's looked like a shell of himself so

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Speaker 3: far this year. Ozzi has been I mean, Ozzie's entire

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Speaker 3: In the last two years, I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 3: know what's going on with him. Matt's looked terrible. Other

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Speaker 3: than a Zuna. Zun has been fantastic from day one.

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Speaker 3: Credit to him. He doesn't belong in this conversation. But

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Speaker 3: Michael's look bad. I mean, Arcia had a decent game tonight,

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Speaker 3: but he's been one of the worst hitters in baseball

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Speaker 3: the last month. Kelnick has been one of the worst

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Speaker 3: hitters in baseball. The last month of ball has been terrible.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, Darnault's been pretty consistent, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's just been up and down the lineup. And the

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Speaker 3: only time the Braves win right now, and we're gonna

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Speaker 3: get to this in a second when we talk about

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Speaker 3: Monday's game, But the only time the Braves win a

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Speaker 3: game right now is when they get elite pitching. That's it.

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Speaker 3: Like they won on Monday. There's the second game on

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Speaker 3: Monday because Sale was unbelievable and the bullpen was lights out,

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Speaker 3: and you know, they pitched a shutout and so they

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Speaker 3: won the game. But that's the only scenario in which

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Speaker 3: the Braves are winning a game right now. If their

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Speaker 3: pitchers give up any sort of runs, they can't win

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Speaker 3: the game because their offense just cannot cover anything up.

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Speaker 3: Last year, the Braves could fall into a five nothing

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Speaker 3: hole in the first inning and it was just a

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Speaker 3: matter everybody knew, it was just a matter of time

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Speaker 3: before they had six runs on the board. Every single

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Speaker 3: game that the Braves fell behind, they could, you know,

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Speaker 3: they always fought back, They always got back in it.

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Speaker 3: This year, it's just been holder. It couldn't be more opposite.

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Speaker 3: You know, the other team gets two three runs on

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Speaker 3: the board, You're like, well that that might be it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that might be the game. And and again,

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Speaker 3: it's not just the results, it's the quality of it bats.

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Speaker 3: It's it's how poor some of these at bats are

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Speaker 3: swinging at pitches two feet out of the zone, taking

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Speaker 3: strikes right down the middle, weak grounders, pop ups like

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Speaker 3: it's just really annoying. And I get it's May, and

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Speaker 3: the Braves always play that crap in May. I don't

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Speaker 3: know why. I wish I knew why. And I'm sure

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Speaker 3: when the Kyle calendar turns of June and Austin Riley

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Speaker 3: and Sean Murphy get back and you know, the weathers

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Speaker 3: is you know, we're officially in the summer. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: the team will look more normal. But I mean, maybe

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Speaker 3: Scott's got the right idea. Maybe the best thing to

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Speaker 3: do is just take a vacation at the you know,

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Speaker 3: the last two weeks of May and just not even

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Speaker 3: even think about the Braves and then you know you're

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Speaker 3: back in June when everything turns around. But yeah, it's brutal.

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Speaker 3: It's brutal right now. There's no other word for it.

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Speaker 1: So, without a doubt, the Braves are certainly having issues

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Speaker 1: right now when it comes to scoring runs with runners

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Speaker 3: years in the league at this point. So you know,

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Speaker 3: I never worry about the Braves clubhouse. You know Azuna.

429
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Speaker 3: We have to mention Azuna too. Everybody raves about Ozuna

430
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 3: as a guy clubhouse. But yeah, adding Sale his experience, obviously,

431
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 3: he's one of the most respected guys in baseball. I'm

432
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 3: sure anytime he speaks, everybody shuts up and listens very carefully.

433
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Speaker 3: And yeah, like you said, it's probably is helpful to

434
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Speaker 3: have a guy like that when you're playing like crap,

435
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 3: which is what the team is doing right now. They're

436
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,879
Speaker 3: playing like crap. So yeah, it is helpful. But I

437
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 3: mean it's all made even more, you know, impactful by

438
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Speaker 3: how he's pitching. I mean, he's literally I haven't looked

439
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 3: at the odds. Brad would be able to tell you

440
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 3: this off the top of his head, I'm sure, but

441
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,479
Speaker 3: I don't know what the Cy Young odds are at

442
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 3: the moment. But he's gonna be He's got to be

443
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Speaker 3: in that race somewhere. There's been a lot of really

444
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 3: good pitching performances in the National League so far, so

445
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 3: he might not be one, but he's up there because

446
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 3: he's been elite and he looks very much like the

447
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 3: guy that was the best pitcher in baseball five years ago.

448
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, a couple of other pitching performances from yesterday that

449
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Speaker 1: I think are noteworthy because you know, they sit out

450
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Speaker 1: to me in terms of the bullpen. Obviously, in Game one,

451
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 1: Joe Jamenez who in my opinion, may have been the

452
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Speaker 1: most consistent reliever so far for the Braves this year.

453
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Speaker 1: You know, his usage had been you know, kind of limited,

454
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Speaker 1: I guess, not as frequent, you know, in several days

455
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Speaker 1: before you know, his performance yesterday, But the Braves up

456
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Speaker 1: five to nothing, were up five to two when he entered,

457
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Speaker 1: I believe in the eighth inning, and he gives up

458
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Speaker 1: four runs to the San Diego Padres that resulted in

459
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Speaker 1: a six to five loss. Stephen. To me, it just

460
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Speaker 1: it seems like that that was more of a you know, hey,

461
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Speaker 1: you know you're going to see you know, a few

462
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Speaker 1: of these innings, even from the best relievers, you know,

463
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Speaker 1: a couple of times each year. It just seemed to

464
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Speaker 1: be wrong time, at the worst possible of the you know,

465
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Speaker 1: wrong performance at the worst possible time. More than something

466
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Speaker 1: I think long term to worry about. But ryceel Iglesias,

467
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Speaker 1: who also had been kind of limited in his utilization

468
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Speaker 1: several days before, he looked crisp. He looked very good

469
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Speaker 1: at the back end of the bullpen. So I think

470
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Speaker 1: with Jimenez, there's there's not really a lot to be

471
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Speaker 1: concerned about. He just had a bad outing at the

472
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Speaker 1: worst possible time. But rycell Iglesias looked a bit more,

473
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Speaker 1: you know, in form a bit more to being one

474
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Speaker 1: of the more consistent believers or closers that were used to.

475
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Speaker 1: So it will be interesting to see how both of

476
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Speaker 1: those relievers build off yesterday's performance moving forward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know how men as I mean, I watched

478
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Speaker 3: the inning back and he got squeezed quite a bit.

479
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Speaker 3: You know, there was like a leadoff walk where I

480
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 3: think the first two pitches were strikes, and the the

481
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Speaker 3: umbrare just didn't call him so obviously if that a

482
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Speaker 3: bat starts, oh two versus two, Oh, you know, you

483
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Speaker 3: never know what's gonna happen. And some ground balls. I mean,

484
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Speaker 3: I'm not particularly worried. I will say he didn't look

485
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Speaker 3: particularly sharp, but I mean, you know, he he he

486
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Speaker 3: threw those thirty pitches in New York about ten days ago,

487
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Speaker 3: and the Braves gave him a long, long rest after that.

488
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Speaker 3: He's only pitched Let's see, I wrote it down here

489
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Speaker 3: that that outing in New York came on May eleventh.

490
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Speaker 3: He's only pitched two other times since May eleventh, and

491
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Speaker 3: where today is made first, So that's two appearances in

492
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Speaker 3: eleven days. For one of your best guys. And you know,

493
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Speaker 3: there's a whole argument about rest versus rust. You know,

494
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 3: is too much rest actually worse for a guy because

495
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Speaker 3: now he's not sharp? You know, I do think they

496
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Speaker 3: probably went a little overboard on the amount of rest

497
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Speaker 3: they gave him after that New York extint, the Braves

498
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Speaker 3: had some winnable games that they just didn't pitch him

499
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Speaker 3: in because he he threw thirty pitches in New York.

500
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Speaker 3: But again, you know, we've now got to the point

501
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Speaker 3: where he's gotten so much rest that he's probably not

502
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Speaker 3: very sharp at this point. So and again he did

503
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Speaker 3: get squeezed. And I'm really not that worried about Joejamenez

504
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 3: or Rassio Glacis. Both those guys have been really good.

505
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Speaker 3: I expect him to continue to be really good. You're

506
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Speaker 3: gonna have bad outings, You're gonna have some bad luck.

507
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Speaker 3: But you know, if you had an offense that was

508
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 3: doing what it's supposed to do, you know, you could

509
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Speaker 3: cover some of that stuff up. I mean, look at

510
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 3: look at the games on Monday. I mean, they scored

511
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Speaker 3: five runs in the first three innings in the first game,

512
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Speaker 3: didn't score again after that. The second game this or

513
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 3: three runs in the first five innings, didn't score after that.

514
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Speaker 3: I mean, they're they're like shutting it down, you know,

515
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Speaker 3: after the fourth or fifth inning, the offense is just

516
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Speaker 3: shutting it down. And there's there's no bad on runs,

517
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 3: there's no extra room for the relievers, there's no there's

518
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 3: you know, all the stuff they did last year. It's

519
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 3: just like they score whatever they score in the first

520
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Speaker 3: three innings and then it's just hold on for dear

521
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 3: life after that. I hope the bullpen can hold it.

522
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Speaker 3: And that's a tough way to win games. You know,

523
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Speaker 3: other offense is gonna score runs too. Your bullpen's not

524
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Speaker 3: gonna be perfect. Your starters are not gonna be perfect.

525
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Speaker 3: You know, I attribute most of this to the offense,

526
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Speaker 3: if i'm you know, I know on Monday the game

527
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Speaker 3: one was technically a bullpen blow up, but I still

528
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Speaker 3: attribute to the office. The offense gotta be better. They

529
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Speaker 3: gotta score runs. I mean, this is what this team

530
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Speaker 3: was built on. And I know they're dealing with injuries,

531
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Speaker 3: but they've got guys who are healthy, who are way

532
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Speaker 3: better than this, who are playing like crap. And you know,

533
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Speaker 3: as we're recording this game on Tuesday night in Chicago.

534
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Speaker 3: That was that was the crappiest version of them of

535
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 3: them all maybe throughout the year so far. So then

536
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Speaker 3: the offense needs to wake up. I mean, there's just

537
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 3: no other. There's no other. The offense has to wake up.

538
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Speaker 3: This team was built to score runs, you know, They're

539
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Speaker 3: not built the starter to go seven shutout innings and

540
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 3: that's the only way they can win a game. They're

541
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Speaker 3: built to be able to, you know, score eight runs

542
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Speaker 3: a game, score six runs a game. I mean, I

543
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 3: don't remember last time they scored seven eight runs in

544
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 3: a game. And that's how long it's been it's been.

545
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 3: I think it's been over a month. That's crazy. This

546
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 3: team is way too good that the offense needs to

547
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Speaker 3: wake up. And it's just that's a.

548
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Speaker 1: Absolutely because you don't have any room freyer, right, you know,

549
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 1: as you've hit on you know, several points in this

550
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 1: show already, there's just no room fair when you were

551
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: hitting home runs as frequently as we were last year.

552
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: He had room freer when you had good health for

553
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: your offense overall. I think that's one thing that's not

554
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: talked about enough from last year is that the Braves

555
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: besides Ozzie Albi's you know, had some very good health

556
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: when it came to you know, their offense as a

557
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: whole overall last year, well, this year we've dealt with

558
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: some injuries. So the room for air, the margin for

559
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: air is just so small this year compared to last

560
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: year that you're really seeing, you know, if the Braves

561
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: just do not have the level of offense that they have,

562
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: even with the pitching performing at its level, that room

563
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: for error is so small that even you know, the

564
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: smallest stretch that you go without scoring runs, it could

565
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: really make it hard to win games consistently. But that's

566
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: where the silver lining comes in place, a bit of

567
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: reinforcement coming in place, hopefully over the next several days.

568
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 1: For one, we did finally get word that of Austin Riley.

569
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: It seemed as if he finally did swing a bat

570
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. The report was that he did some swinge

571
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: of the bat. It'd some soft toss situations, you know,

572
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: with the batty cages at Chicago. So that is certainly

573
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: a positive. But to me, the even bigger positive is

574
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Speaker 1: the fact that Sean Murphy returned to action for the

575
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: Stripers on Tuesday and immediately showed that he seems to

576
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: be in good form. A four hundred and fifty foot

577
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: home run, I believe in his first at bat in

578
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 1: his rehab assignment, a few other very hard hit balls

579
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: seemed to you know, be able to manage behind the plate.

580
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 1: He's got to play it in place throughout the week

581
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 1: in terms of how he's going to be used, and

582
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Speaker 1: then hopefully he'll be back at some point over this

583
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 1: upcoming weekend or next week, but who knows, maybe he'll

584
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: be back in a few days. But you know, it's

585
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: good to see Stephen continued positive progress for Sean Murphy,

586
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: whose return seems to be rather intimate, and then hopefully

587
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 1: Austin Riley within the next several days. If we can

588
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: get both those bats back in the lineup, it'll deepen

589
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: the lineup, give us some reinforcements, and hopefully start to

590
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: give us, you know, an opportunity to get more run

591
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: scoring opportunities going.

592
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Murphy played seven innings tonight, so he got

593
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 3: three or four at bats caught. He's been catching bullpins

594
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 3: and live VP for a while now, so it's really

595
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 3: just about swinging the bat. And obviously that's the case

596
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 3: when you have an oblique injury. But yeah, the the

597
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 3: fact that he played seven innings tonight in his first

598
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 3: rehab game, I mean, I think the Braves are probably

599
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 3: gonna speed run this rehab and get him back pretty quick.

600
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 3: They've been known to do that. Every time you think

601
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 3: they're gonna take it nice and slow, you know, they

602
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 3: they go the other way. And I wouldn't be surprised

603
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 3: to all if Murphy's back at the end of the week,

604
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 3: to be honest with you, once he gets three or

605
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 3: four games of it bats under his belt. Neil Bleak

606
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 3: looks good and he feels good, he's gonna be back up.

607
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 3: So it's yeah, it's it's definitely imminent with with Murph.

608
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 3: With Riley, you know, obviously, now that he's swinging a bat,

609
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 3: that's that's an improvement. Of course, it's been over a

610
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 3: week since he had the injury, and it was on

611
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 3: Sunday night baseball in New York, So yeah, it's been

612
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 3: a while and he's swinging the bat. He's still not

613
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,719
Speaker 3: doing a ton, but at least he's swinging a bat now,

614
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 3: so hopefully we're not too far away. The Braves need

615
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 3: all the offensive weapons they can get at the moment

616
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 3: because they are they are drowning on offense. They've just

617
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 3: got so many non competitive at bats up and down

618
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 3: the lineup every game. They could use some reinforcements. So

619
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Speaker 3: it'll be good to get those guys back.

620
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: Absolutely, But of course, you know the pitching staff. You know,

621
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Speaker 1: despite the injury that we saw to Schmitzer Strider this

622
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: year compared to last year, it's been a bit different.

623
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Speaker 1: It's the lineup that's dealt with, you know, some significant

624
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: injury in May versus last year. At being the pitching staff. Well,

625
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: now we're starting to see the fact that the pitching

626
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: staff is going to run to you know, some interesting

627
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: decisions in upcoming days. Now Tomorrow, which will be Wednesday,

628
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna see a fantastic pitching up matchup in my opinion,

629
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Speaker 1: you know, Max Spreed versus Justin Steelled, two of the

630
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: better left handers in the National League over the past

631
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: few years. They're going to go against each other on Wednesday.

632
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: But then Thursday, it's been reported that the Cubs may

633
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: go with the bullpen game after they put Kyle Hendricks

634
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: back in the bullpen. They're likely going to go with

635
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: the bullpen game on Thursday. But starting Thursday, Steven, the

636
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: Braves are gonna have some interesting decisions. So on Monday,

637
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: after the first game, the Braves sent Bryce Elder down

638
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: to Gwinnette and they called up Darius Fines, and then

639
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Speaker 1: they also sent down Ray Kerr after game two. And

640
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: of course ray Kerr is going to be a very

641
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: interesting case to watch because he's had several outings of

642
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: pitching multiple winnings, has had very good results. The Brian

643
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: snicker seemed to indicate maybe the Braves will be open

644
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: and looking at him as a starter, So maybe he

645
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: stretched out in Gwinnette. But that's something to watch for Gwinette.

646
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: In terms of Atlanta on Thursday and Friday, right now,

647
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: it's undecided who's going to be pitching for the Braves.

648
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: The thing is is that who starts those games may

649
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: not even be on the roster as of right now.

650
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: I think that the options are likely going to be Vines,

651
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: Dylan Dodd, A j Snishaber, or Alan Winings.

652
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 3: But the thing is is that.

653
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: The Braves are going to have some decisions to make

654
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: and they're going to have to possibly bring up a

655
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: couple of pitchers to start Thursday and Friday's game when

656
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: it comes to ending the series versus the Cubs and

657
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: starting that series against the Pirates in Pittsburgh.

658
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 3: I mean, anytime you have a double header, the complicated

659
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 3: part of a double header is what you do in

660
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 3: the rotation the next time through. Obviously, because you use

661
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 3: two of your pitchers in one day, So that means

662
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: when you get to the next time through the rotation,

663
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 3: there's gonna come a day where none of your five

664
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 3: guys are available. And obviously that's what the Braves happened

665
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 3: to the Raves. Uh, that's gonna be Thursday's game where

666
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 3: there that's why they called up Darius Vines probably to

667
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 3: pitch that game. And then obviously because they optioned the

668
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,719
Speaker 3: elder who was Friday's starter or was gonna be Friday's starter, Uh,

669
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 3: they're gonna have to fill that slot as well. So yeah,

670
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 3: so you know, it's all it's all kind of born

671
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 3: out of the fact that they had the doubleheader on

672
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 3: Monday and the fact that Bryce Elders looked terrible and

673
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 3: probably needed to be optioned anyways. But yeah, they've got

674
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,959
Speaker 3: some options. I think I think Smith Shauver is the

675
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 3: one who's technically lined up to pitch Friday for Guinnette,

676
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 3: so you know, if you just won to one, you

677
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 3: know they need a starter. And for Atlanta on Friday.

678
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: He's scheduled for Friday in Guinet. That's probably a decent guess,

679
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 3: but it could be any of those guys, you know,

680
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 3: like you said, could be Wine Ins, can be DoD Uh.

681
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 3: I guess his Vines is gonna pitch Thursday. That's why

682
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 3: I was so big that Charlie got through five innings tonight,

683
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 3: because they had Vines warming up in like the second inning.

684
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 3: And if Charlie had kind of blown up in the

685
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 3: second ending there and gotten taken out of the game

686
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 3: and Vines had to come in, I mean, then this

687
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 3: whole week would have just been a whole another adventure,

688
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 3: more so than it's already been. So that was big

689
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 3: from Charlie. But yeah, I think it's gonna be Vine's Thursday.

690
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 3: And my guess is a J Smith shaver on Friday.

691
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 3: But we'll see. They'll have to make a roster move

692
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 3: to make it happen. But yeah, they're having to shuffle

693
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 3: the deck a little bit. It's all, you know. It

694
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: all stems off the double header on Monday, absolutely.

695
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: And here's the thing, as we wrap up this edition

696
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,719
Speaker 1: of the Hammer Territory podcast, Steven to me, it's very simple.

697
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: We talk about the offense. This offense is more than

698
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: capable of switching the light on it instantly, be it

699
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: one of the best in baseball. At least we think

700
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: that they're capable of do it at with where they

701
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: are right now. When it comes to runners at scoring position.

702
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: It may take a bit of tide, but there's no

703
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: better tide than the present. And I don't mean that

704
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: to be cliche. I mean that to say that this

705
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: literally coming up over the next two weeks is going

706
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: to be one of their easiest stretches, in my opinion,

707
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: of the schedule, to really get right, to really be

708
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: able to put some ones together as they need to,

709
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: because because the Phillies listen. I'm not watching the Phillies

710
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: right now, simply because it's too early to really watch them.

711
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: And we know in recent history the Braves have done

712
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 1: just fie when it comes to closing the gap when

713
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: it comes to the division. But the Phillies are going

714
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: to continue to play excellent baseball more than likely if

715
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: the Braves don't want to find themselves in too big

716
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: of a hole. This is the time to get going

717
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: because you got two games left with the Cubs. You're

718
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: not going to have to worry about Abanaga in these

719
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: two games. Then you've got going to Pittsburgh over the weekend.

720
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 1: As of right now, you're not lined up to pay

721
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: face Paul schemes. And the next week you've got the

722
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: Nationals as well as the Athletics. As long as we

723
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: don't see something like last year, will be dropped to

724
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: in Oakland. These next two weeks are a really good

725
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: opportunity for the Braves to be able to get right

726
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: and put some wins together, but also really put together

727
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: some consistency that can once again help them go into

728
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: June and really have a lotching pad to be successful.

729
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: But they've got to take advantage of it right now.

730
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: Getting some reinforcements offensively should help. The pitching staff should

731
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: be able to figure itself out. But Steven, the golden

732
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 1: opportunity is right there. They need to take tonight. Just

733
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 1: flush it away. Know how bad they feel because they

734
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: weren't able to get the job done with how awful

735
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: they were, and really use that as motivation to take

736
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 1: advantage of the next two weeks to get.

737
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 3: Back on track. Yeah, I mean listen, especially with runners

738
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 3: in scoring position, you're gonna have ebbs and flows, like

739
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 3: you're gonna go through periods where you're doing well, you're

740
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 3: gonna go through periods when you're not doing what the results. Honestly,

741
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 3: the results don't bother me as much, especially this early

742
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 3: in the year where there's still so much baseball to play.

743
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 3: What bothers me is is more the process. And tonight

744
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 3: the brace process was just awful. Like, the quality of it.

745
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 3: Bats were just awful. The number of pitches they swung

746
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 3: at you out of the strike zone two three feet below,

747
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 3: two three feet outside was miserable. I mean, anytime they

748
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 3: had a runner and score a position, they they put

749
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 3: like their worst at bat of the night up. It's

750
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 3: it's not just the results, and it's really more about

751
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 3: I just want to see the quality of it bat

752
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 3: go up, you know, across the board, and even if

753
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 3: it doesn't immediately lead to results, it will eventually lead

754
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 3: to results, you know. That's what. That's what That's what

755
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 3: I That's why I'm in a bad mood. It's not

756
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 3: because they lost the game. I don't really give I

757
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 3: mean I could care less really about a loss in May.

758
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 3: I mean, there's so much baseball left to play. It's

759
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 3: not about losing. It's it's the way they're losing. It's

760
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 3: the process that's going into these games where there's just

761
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 3: miserable at bad after miserable at bad, no life, Like

762
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 3: after the fourth or fifth ending of the game, like

763
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 3: the offense just shut them like there's just nothing. There's nothing.

764
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 3: It's like no spark. And that's what bothers me. And

765
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 3: that's what I want to see improved it. And yeah,

766
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 3: I mean it's an easier part of the schedule, but

767
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 3: like you said, we learned last year the Braids went

768
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 3: up to Oakland and got their butt kicked in two games.

769
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: So anybody can beat you, especially the way the Braids

770
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 3: are playing right now, anybody can beat you. But that

771
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 3: that's what I want to see. That that that's what

772
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 3: annoys me most is just the lifeless low quality at

773
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 3: bats that happened night after night, regardless of whether or

774
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 3: not runners in scoring position or not. Honestly, it's just

775
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 3: the process needs to be better, and that's what I

776
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 3: want to see. And if that happens, then eventually they

777
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 3: will score runs. Eventually they will win games, but the

778
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 3: process has got to improve. From what we watched tonight,

779
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 3: what we watched tonight was maybe the most frustrating game

780
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 3: I've seen all season. And they've got to get you know,

781
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 3: I don't know if they need another players meeting, you know,

782
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 3: like they did the last couple of years and then

783
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 3: they take off. I don't know what they need. But

784
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 3: tonight was miserable, and they got to get They got

785
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 3: to do something more than what they're doing lately. And

786
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 3: that's there's got to be some quality at bats coming

787
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 3: at some point.

788
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: Absolutely since the start of twenty and twenty two. You know,

789
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: we won the World Series in twenty twenty one, but

790
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 1: I think since the start of twenty and twenty two, Steven,

791
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: that's really when people kind of, you know realize that,

792
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: you know, this Braves team, you know, it's pretty consistently

793
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: being you know, among of, if not the the the

794
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: thought of to be the best team in baseball. But

795
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: since two thousand, at least in the regular season, since

796
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: the start of twenty and twenty two, the are now

797
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: thirty six and thirty eight in the month of May.

798
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: In the months of June, July, and August, they're one

799
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: twelve and forty six, a seventy five percent winning percentage.

800
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: So again, when I say, from a grand scheme of things,

801
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: they've been here before, they've dealt with these struggles before.

802
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: This team is more than capable of balancing back, and

803
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: they're gonna bounce back. I have no doubt about that

804
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: at all. But to your point, we've also not gone

805
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: through this long of a stretch in many years where

806
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: their process to finding success at the plate has been

807
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: so much in question. I think they'll figure it out,

808
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: but they really need to figure out sooner rather than later,

809
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: especially with some great opportunities to win games here over

810
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: the next few weeks. Steven, as we wrap up this

811
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: edition of the Hammer Territory Podcast, anything Else is as

812
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: we go into what should be a pretty fun pitching

813
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: matchup between Justin Steele and Max Freed on Wednesday. Hopefully

814
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: the Braves can get some early runs to give Max

815
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: Freed some support to work with.

816
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, some early runs and then maybe, you know, if

817
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 3: they're not feeling too down about it, maybe some late

818
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 3: runs would be tremendous as well. But yeah, it'll be

819
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 3: you know, obviously, Max on the mound, you hope for

820
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 3: get outing. The Brads kind of need to get outing,

821
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 3: just because of They've got two probably uncertain starters for

822
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 3: Thursday and Friday, so Max's you know, Max's start tomorrow,

823
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 3: and obviously, coming off the loss, i'd be nice if

824
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 3: Max went out and shut down Chicago. But yeah, the

825
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 3: Brads need to score. The offense needs to wake up.

826
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 3: I mean we say it every week, offense needs to

827
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 3: wake up. We'll see. I mean, you know, maybe it

828
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,479
Speaker 3: has to be June before they do it. I don't

829
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 3: know why, but maybe that's what it is. Maybe they're

830
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 3: just waiting for June first. But I would love some runs.

831
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 3: I would love to put this stretch of baseball that

832
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 3: seems like it's lasted forever behind us. But until they

833
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 3: until they start scoring runs, then we're kind of stuck

834
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 3: in the same spot we've been for the last month.

835
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and you have to hope that Max Freed's able

836
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 1: to channel the last time that he was in Wrigley.

837
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 1: If you were called back last year, it was last August.

838
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: I believe you know Max Freed coming back. It was

839
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: either last August or September. Any the last time it

840
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: was coming off, I believe over three months of not

841
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: being on the mound due to his forearm injury.

842
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 3: It was a.

843
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: Friday, it was the afternoon, it was in regally, and

844
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 1: he was absolutely spectacular. Now earn runs, eight strikeouts over

845
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: six innings. You hope that he'll be able to put

846
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: together a performance like that tomorrow and if he can,

847
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: hopefully the Braves we'll be able to get some early

848
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: runs to be able to get the job done. But

849
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: of course we're going to continue to have you covered

850
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: when it comes to the Hammer Territory Podcast, part of

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