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<v Speaker 1>Man and the Tea Wolves moving to the fourth in

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<v Speaker 1>the Western Conference thanks to a one seventeen to one

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<v Speaker 1>oh eight victory over the Nuggets. Minnesota beat Denver for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time in four games this season. Ant Man

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<v Speaker 1>had twenty one bones, Highland had fifteen of his eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>in the first half, and Minnesota sweeps is three game

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<v Speaker 1>road trip to improve the thirty eight to twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>jumping to fourth in the West. Minnesota now moved a

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<v Speaker 1>game ahead of Denver in the Western Conference. There's just

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<v Speaker 1>two games separating the third seed, which is the Rockets,

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<v Speaker 1>and the sixth seed, which is the Lakers. They got

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<v Speaker 1>an outstanding performance in the fourth quarter from Naz Reid,

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<v Speaker 1>who looked like Kobe Bryant. He did an in and out,

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<v Speaker 1>got an an one, He did an out and end

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<v Speaker 1>and threw it up with a left hand. He got

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<v Speaker 1>that in a big three, so he played unbelievable. They

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<v Speaker 1>got great contributions. Ant Man didn't go off like he

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<v Speaker 1>had been in the last couple of games, but they

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<v Speaker 1>get with a total team effort. It was too much

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<v Speaker 1>for the joke to overcome joke and Murray, but they

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<v Speaker 1>got slopped with the ball late and the ball gave

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Joe, watching this game, what did you like about

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<v Speaker 1>what Minnesota did?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean every nas reed. Obviously being able to insert

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<v Speaker 3>himself towards the end of the game. I think that

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<v Speaker 3>made the difference in it. Ant Man not having the

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<v Speaker 3>game that he's had the past previous games. Obviously he's

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<v Speaker 3>been on fire, he's been hot, but he was efficient enough.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he was nine for nineteen. He had twenty

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<v Speaker 3>one points, if I'm not mistaken. Outside of that, it

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<v Speaker 3>looked they look good. They look good, and obviously the

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<v Speaker 3>god damn Nuggets didn't help himselves, turning the ball over

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<v Speaker 3>and missing some opportunities and chances to score and vital

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<v Speaker 3>moments that could have changed the outcome of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they didn't really get the contribution they needed from

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<v Speaker 1>Cam Johnson, and that I think he was all for

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<v Speaker 1>Yoke is gonna be yoke. I think he's what thirty five,

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen to nine. Jamal Murray came on strong. I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you. The turnovers late definitely didn't help their cause.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're gonna have to do a better job because

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<v Speaker 1>they were terrible when Yolk was off the floor today.

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<v Speaker 2>They can't give up.

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<v Speaker 1>That kind And I think there were minus fifteen, minus

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen or seventeen when Yolk was on the floor, and

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<v Speaker 1>he played a lot more minutes than I'm sure Adaman

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<v Speaker 1>wanted him to play in this ball game. And it

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like every time he went out, which he only

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<v Speaker 1>went out he played. What he does is that he

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<v Speaker 1>normally plays the entire first quarter, and then they try

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<v Speaker 1>to give him somewhere six to eight minutes in the

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<v Speaker 1>second quarter, and then played the entire third quarter, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the coming out of the half, and then try to

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<v Speaker 1>give him a big break in the fourth. But they

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<v Speaker 1>had to bring him back a lot sooner than they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to because the game started to slip away. But

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<v Speaker 1>give the team Wolves a lot of credit because every

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<v Speaker 1>time the Nuggets made a run, they quelled it. Somebody

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<v Speaker 1>hit a big three. Deevin Tenzo played unbelievable. They especially

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<v Speaker 1>in the first half with those four to three pointers.

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<v Speaker 1>Nas Red picked it up. Nasree picked it up in

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth quarter, hit a big three in and out

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<v Speaker 1>out and end did some great jobs. They did a

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<v Speaker 1>great job of rebounding the basketball. They just got to

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<v Speaker 1>do a better job because I thought, you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>start the game the way the Nuggets started up, I'm like, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>they might sweep this series yet. And the next thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, here come the Nuggets, Here comes man Deevinceinzo,

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<v Speaker 1>all those guys making contributions, and they ended up winning

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<v Speaker 1>this game. But it's gonna be Look, I think for me,

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<v Speaker 1>the class of the Western Conference is ok see. Still,

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<v Speaker 1>they got Shay back, and he comes back. They played

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<v Speaker 1>the Nuggets in his first game back, he drops I

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<v Speaker 1>think thirty five, and he didn't play in overtime. He he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't play late in the ball game because they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want him to over extend himself in the ball game.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to gradually build him back up. And thankfully

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't need him because I know that was really

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<v Speaker 1>tough to watch a game of that magnitude. And now

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<v Speaker 1>they've already given you a minute restriction said we're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna play with this. I don't care what the circumstance

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<v Speaker 1>called for. Even though it was a close ball game

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<v Speaker 1>late in the ball game and they could have definitely

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<v Speaker 1>used him. They've guys were Crucio did a great job

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<v Speaker 1>down to stretch, but looking at this ball game, we Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna have to find a way. This is why

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<v Speaker 1>they made they got rid of MP Michael Porter Junior

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<v Speaker 1>because the filming situations like this, And maybe he's he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a good fit because you look at what he's

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<v Speaker 1>doing with the nest. He's a guy that can legitimately

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<v Speaker 1>be a one or two scorer, yes, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>always he was never gonna be anything more than the

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<v Speaker 1>third score here because you got Yoke and you got murried.

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<v Speaker 1>So Cam Johnson is gonna have to be He's more

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<v Speaker 1>equipped than that in his mindset, is more equipped to

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<v Speaker 1>be a third option because pretty much that's what he's

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<v Speaker 1>always been. And in that situation, I just think he

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<v Speaker 1>has to be better. He hadn't been good in a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of games. In order for them to get to

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<v Speaker 1>where they need to be, he's gonna have to be

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<v Speaker 1>that third piece. Bruce Brown does what Bruce Brown does.

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<v Speaker 1>I like what Kristen Brown h Brown does, but wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>enough today the given Minnesota credit, Minnesota played the heck

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<v Speaker 1>of a ball game.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean Minnesota, Minnesota played the heck of a

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<v Speaker 3>ball game. But but for me and I think about mentality.

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<v Speaker 3>I think about confidence, especially when it comes to any sport.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, the specific topic is is basketball, and for

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<v Speaker 3>Cam Johnson, I think he needs to insert himself a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit more. I understand that there's a pecking order

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to shots selection and who has a

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<v Speaker 3>green light to take as many shots as they want to.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think players like Cam Johnson in that role

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<v Speaker 3>of when Yoka is not doing well, when Murray's not

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<v Speaker 3>doing well, I need to insert myself into the game.

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<v Speaker 2>How do I do that?

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<v Speaker 3>I already already need to be in rhythm. I need

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<v Speaker 3>to have some type of some type of confidence about

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<v Speaker 3>my game where I don't feel scared or I don't

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<v Speaker 3>feel nervous or a gunshot to take certain shots. And

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<v Speaker 3>there's only one way to do that is being able

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<v Speaker 3>to get yourself in rhythm and find ways to insert

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<v Speaker 3>yourself into the game even when it doesn't call for

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<v Speaker 3>you to do so.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think if.

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<v Speaker 3>He's able to do that late in ball games, in

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<v Speaker 3>situations like this, then he'll be able to insert himself

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<v Speaker 3>and feel okay about taking certain shots where it means

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<v Speaker 3>much more as opposed to the first three quarters in

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<v Speaker 3>the game, where it matters between wins and losses.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think the biggest thing you mentioned confidence is

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<v Speaker 1>that getting into a rhythm early, it's hard to miss

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<v Speaker 1>or shoot, but the confidence goes a long way. And

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<v Speaker 1>because he struggled the last couple of games he was

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<v Speaker 1>over the day, scored zero points. And I'm looking at Yoke,

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<v Speaker 1>Yoke with fifteen or twenty six, one or four from three,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was thirty five, thirteen and nine. You look

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<v Speaker 1>at Jamal Murray twenty five and wasn't efficient at all.

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<v Speaker 1>He was nine of twenty two, two or six. Christian

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<v Speaker 1>Brown was fifteen points. He played really well. Uh Strawther

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<v Speaker 1>gave him only two points. You got so you got

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<v Speaker 1>two of your starter as Oh Joe gave you two

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<v Speaker 1>points at two points and they played a combined forty minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't have that. Uh, Valanchoona's two points.

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<v Speaker 1>Hardaway Junior played well, he was five or six, three

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<v Speaker 1>or four from the three. Bruce Brown six points in

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four minutes. But they just gotta fight. They gotta fight.

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<v Speaker 1>They gotta fight a third option because you know exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what you're gonna get from Yoke and sometimes he peeps

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna thatfica. See, look, we can't stop this man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yoke's go get somewhere between thirty and forty. He's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get somewhere between twelve and seventeen rebounds, and he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get somewhere between eight and twelve assists. We just can't

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<v Speaker 1>let him get forty twenty twenty. That's what we gotta stop.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're not gonna stop him from getting those you know,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight twenty nine thirty points. He's gonna get that,

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna get three rebounds. We've just got to control

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<v Speaker 1>him getting those fifteen eighteen twenty assists because he's getting

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<v Speaker 1>his points and he's getting other people involved. Once he

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<v Speaker 1>starts getting other people involved, now what do we do

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<v Speaker 1>Because we can't leave anybody. There's nobody that's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>able to deal with him one on one. So you

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<v Speaker 1>try to make it as difficult as you possibly can,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe you let him go one on one and says, look,

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<v Speaker 1>i'd rather give him what the Clippers tried that and

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<v Speaker 1>then he ends up getting fifty six and thirteen and seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can't let him get fifteen assists. Oh, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't let him get eighteen twenty assists because he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have somewhere between twenty and thirty points. He might

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<v Speaker 1>even get thirty five forty. So now he has forty

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<v Speaker 1>and he's contributed because of those fifteen to twenty or six,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, at least seven of them on three pointers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can't have that. But they're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>find a consistent third option. Cam Johnson's been in these

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<v Speaker 1>moments before. He won a championship. If I'm not mistaken

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<v Speaker 1>with the no he's on that team to end up

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<v Speaker 1>losing to Milwaukee. But he's been in he's been in

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<v Speaker 1>pressure situations before, and he's just gonna have to come

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<v Speaker 1>through because right now he's not playing well and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what happened. I think he did have an injury,

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<v Speaker 1>O Joe, So I think he might be coming back

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<v Speaker 1>from an injury. But that look, they don't do excuses

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<v Speaker 1>in pro sports. Now you don't. Either you do or

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<v Speaker 1>you don't, and right now he's not doing. Go ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you want to add?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot and Drew randalm Drew Randall played an unbelievable game.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he didn't have twenty five thirty points, But I

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<v Speaker 1>thought the fourteen ninety seven that he did have came

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<v Speaker 1>out at a very opportunity time and it did a

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<v Speaker 1>great job on the glass. But I thought jew, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought all the auxiliary pieces, look, they're more and McDaniel

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<v Speaker 1>played well, they're more than.

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<v Speaker 2>Just ant Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I know aunt Man gifts a lot of the pub

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<v Speaker 1>and rightfully so, because he's electric. He's a dynamic score.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing he can't do. He can block a shot

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<v Speaker 1>to save a game, he can hit a clutch three

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<v Speaker 1>to win the game. He can play outstanding defense when

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to sit in the chair and guard. But

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<v Speaker 1>he's a consistent player, and we know what he is.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a superstar. But when you get contribution from Randal, you,

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<v Speaker 1>McDaniel and Devincenzo and all those guys starting to jump

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<v Speaker 1>in now, it makes them difficult. You know, Rudy Gobert

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<v Speaker 1>was Rudy Gobert. He gave you six, eight points, fifteen rebounds,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that's what he's going to do. But I thought, overall,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Minnesota going on the road, the end of

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<v Speaker 1>this road trip, Yeah, going to Denver, and that's a

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<v Speaker 1>very that's not an easy place then. Plus they had

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<v Speaker 1>been the Nuggets had been playing well, even though they

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<v Speaker 1>lost a tough game the other night to Okay see see.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you deal it, when you're dealing with Yoke

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<v Speaker 1>and Murray, and we know what those two guys represent.

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<v Speaker 1>They're a goodest duo that we have in this league.

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<v Speaker 1>They can put you in the pick and roll. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>Yo can hit the three, he can roll, he can

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<v Speaker 1>hit the mid range. Jamal Murray's insactiony' seeing pok on

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<v Speaker 1>Rudy Gobert. So he's sensational. He could hit the three.

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<v Speaker 1>He could in and out you. So but I was,

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I was surprised how well Minnesota withstood everything

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<v Speaker 1>that they had going on special in the first quarter

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<v Speaker 1>to withstand that, because I'm looking at it and they

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<v Speaker 1>had like a twelve point lead, and then they cut

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<v Speaker 1>it down to like five and a half and they think,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, the t Wolves up seven.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, damn, that was quick and it didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Take a whole lot of effort. But we'll see how

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<v Speaker 1>this thing play out. I think they got about twenty

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<v Speaker 1>games left o Hoe in the season. And when you

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<v Speaker 1>got the kind of closeness between three and six. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to stay in the sixth spot because you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to go into the play in so you

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<v Speaker 1>want to try to maintain where you are.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to stay because right now.

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<v Speaker 1>The Lakers are in the sixth spot, and so you

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<v Speaker 1>got the seven eight, seven, eight, nine ten or in

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<v Speaker 1>the play in tournament. You don't want to get into

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<v Speaker 1>the playing tournament. You don't want to play. You you

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<v Speaker 1>want to play as few games as possible, and playing

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<v Speaker 1>those you know, obviously, whether it's seven, seven plays ten,

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<v Speaker 1>eight plays nine, so obviously seven wins, they're in. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever wins the seven ten matchup is in, and then

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<v Speaker 1>situation like that, and then the losers play each other

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<v Speaker 1>for the chest to be out fointish up to eight seed.

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<v Speaker 1>So you got OKC, that's forty seven and fifteen, you

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<v Speaker 1>got the Spurs or forty three and seventeen they lost,

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<v Speaker 1>got blown out. Today the Rockets are thirty seven and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two. The Nuggets are thirty eight and twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, no, The timber Wolves are thirty eight to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three. The Nuggets are thirty seven and twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>The Lakers are thirty five and twenty four, Phoenix is

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four and twenty six. Golden State's in the eighth spot,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's reported that Steph Curry is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>out another at least at least five games, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where they get offense without Steph Curry. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Portland is in a ninth spot at twenty nine and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty three, and the Clippers fading obviously, you know they're

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<v Speaker 1>not going anywhere. And Kawhi louted as much. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>I think this season is already over. Uh, they're twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seven and thirty one, So that's where that's where they

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<v Speaker 1>are right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the rankings.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, go ahead right right now with the rankers

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<v Speaker 3>where they are right now, where we are in basketball

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<v Speaker 3>season with twenty games left. I mean, based on your

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<v Speaker 3>expertise and watching the game and your knowledge of the

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<v Speaker 3>game over time, if you were to take your picks

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<v Speaker 3>now for coming out the East and coming out the

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<v Speaker 3>West playing in the finals, who would you have to

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<v Speaker 3>this point right now unless some team just comes out

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<v Speaker 3>of nowhere and does some extraordinary you know, the last

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<v Speaker 3>twenty games and shocks everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Okay s would really love somebody to knock

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<v Speaker 1>off San Antonio because.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't have to deal with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they don't have to deal with Winby and those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the team that causes okay See the most problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Me personally, I think it's probably gonna be San Antonio

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<v Speaker 1>in okay See in the Western Conference finals.

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<v Speaker 2>But you never know.

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<v Speaker 1>Because ant man At has been there and done that before,

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<v Speaker 1>so he knows, he knows how to rise to the occasion.

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<v Speaker 2>Nuggets have won a championship before.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think the Rockets, I'm surprised the Rockets did

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<v Speaker 1>not get a point guard.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Paul was there, and maybe they.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't want to didn't want to deal with Chris Paul

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know what that issue is. But they

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<v Speaker 1>need a point guard and they don't have a point guard.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's the biggest thing, that's the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>hindrance to them. Phoenix, Okay book is out, Dylan Brooks

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<v Speaker 1>has a broken hand. How soon can those guys get back.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I think even with those guys back, they can

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<v Speaker 1>contend in the West?

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<v Speaker 2>I do not.

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<v Speaker 1>I do not think they have enough firepower to contend.

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<v Speaker 1>The Lakers don't play good enough defense. To contend. We

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<v Speaker 1>saw last night Austin Reeves get blown by Aydon.

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<v Speaker 2>I I don't know. I just don't know about him.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't know, really, all things being equal to

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, I think there's four teams seriously that

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<v Speaker 1>could end up in the Western Conference Final. That's Denver, Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>San Antoni, in Okac. Those are my teams that I

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<v Speaker 1>think can make it to the Western Conference Final. Went realistically, realistically, right,

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<v Speaker 1>You you make me put some money into something that

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<v Speaker 1>matters to me, and if it's my money, it matters.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I probably I'd probably picked Okac.

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<v Speaker 3>I probably pick the double back again and win a championship.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>The next the Knicks snapped the spurs eleven game winning

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<v Speaker 1>streak with a blowout one fourteen to eighty nine. Michal

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<v Speaker 1>Bridges had twenty five, Jaylen Brunton had twenty four. The

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<v Speaker 1>Spurs couldn't overcome twenty two turnals that led to twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four points and they were out rebounded fifty four to

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<v Speaker 1>forty one. Something that they're really they're not because of Winby.

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<v Speaker 1>Winby played well, but you know, they went on the run.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Knicks went on a twenty a run

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<v Speaker 1>outscored in twenty two. Oh and they could never get

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<v Speaker 1>back in the game after that. They never could. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>but they played. Look you got Miselle, Michel Bridges and Alvarado.

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<v Speaker 1>He comes in the game and he's a spark plug.

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<v Speaker 1>And you knew he would be that type of guy

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<v Speaker 1>that the Knicks crowd would love because he plays with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of energy. They like that, a lot of hustle,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of grid.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna make a big shot. He's gonna, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get to get you a couple of turnovers. He's gonna feed,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, get the crowd energized. I'm not surprised that

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<v Speaker 1>the nick on bas love him as much as they

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<v Speaker 1>love him.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to pull up this Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>No, this game. Uh scores here mm hm hm where

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<v Speaker 5>is it that? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Here it is? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Champagny three points Wemby was twenty was twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>and thirteen. Uh but they shot terrible from the three

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<v Speaker 1>nine of thirty four twenty what's that twenty six percent

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<v Speaker 1>forty two percent from the floor.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And as matter of fact that they only had eighty

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<v Speaker 2>nine points.

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<v Speaker 1>Lets you know, but they had og had twelve, called

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<v Speaker 1>Kat had twelve, Josh Hart almost had a triple double.

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<v Speaker 2>He had ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Michal Bridges had twenty five brothers and they had twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>De Warry had fourteen. But they got overall.

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<v Speaker 2>Contribution and look from everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes they did. And like I said, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Knicks want to play, you know, want to play.

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<v Speaker 1>They got Michail Bridges who's a wing defender. They got

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Hart who can defend. They got oj ca at defend.

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<v Speaker 1>Mitchell Robinson comes in and he can bang and he

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<v Speaker 1>can defend. But they do a great job. They do

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<v Speaker 1>a great job of kid creating chaos and turning turnovers

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<v Speaker 1>into points. And that was really the difference in the

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<v Speaker 1>ball game. They they just kept turning the Spurs over.

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<v Speaker 1>The Spurs couldn't protect the ball, and they're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to do a better job of that. Look, they had

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<v Speaker 1>won eleven games, had been playing really really well, and

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<v Speaker 1>to play at the level. I don't think they we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go undefeated heading into the postseason, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're you know, I think the coaches pleased with the

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<v Speaker 1>way they played thus far. But today was just one

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<v Speaker 1>of those games. A nationally televised game. It's an early game.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't normally play that early Oho, but give those guys,

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<v Speaker 1>give those guys credit.

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<v Speaker 2>They played.

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<v Speaker 1>The Knicks played an unbelievable game today and they got

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<v Speaker 1>the win and blow out fashion.

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<v Speaker 3>And the Knicks needed this too, that they needed. They've

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<v Speaker 3>been they've been played. They haven't been playing too well,

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<v Speaker 3>especially as a group collectively. The way they played today

0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:32.120
<v Speaker 3>is how they can play it. They can find some

0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:34.840
<v Speaker 3>type of balance, you know, not too high and not

0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:37.800
<v Speaker 3>too low, but finding an even way to play collectively

0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:38.280
<v Speaker 3>as a group.

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<v Speaker 2>The way they did today, they can. They can.

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<v Speaker 3>They can make some hay and make some noise similar

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<v Speaker 3>to what they did last year. I know I've been

0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:48.600
<v Speaker 3>watching Steven that he's been upset with the Knicks the

0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:52.040
<v Speaker 3>past few games and and what they've displayed out there

0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:54.520
<v Speaker 3>as far as the product is on the court. But

0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:57.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean shockingly to my to me, you know, knowing

0:21:57.960 --> 0:21:59.720
<v Speaker 3>that the Spurs were playing the Knicks, I thought, obviously

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<v Speaker 3>will run away with this game, and the Nick look

0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:05.320
<v Speaker 3>completely different, you know, a completely different team.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Washington play today what.

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<v Speaker 1>They swarm when when we have seven turnovers by himself

0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:12.640
<v Speaker 1>of those twenty two. You can't turn the ball over

0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:17.400
<v Speaker 1>like that because now you create, you get runouts, things

0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:19.959
<v Speaker 1>of that nature. And like I said, the Knicks can

0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:23.199
<v Speaker 1>cause you that type of problem if you turn the

0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:25.399
<v Speaker 1>ball over, because they got really good defenders. O g

0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:28.239
<v Speaker 1>can defend at the high level. We know Michal Bridges can,

0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:30.600
<v Speaker 1>we know Josh Hart can. So they got guys that

0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:32.440
<v Speaker 1>can clamp the ball and keep the ball in front

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<v Speaker 1>of them.

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<v Speaker 2>And so Mitchell Robinson comes.

0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Obviously Cat is seven foot and he'll block a shot

0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:40.359
<v Speaker 1>here or there, but that's not what Cat is known for.

0:22:40.440 --> 0:22:42.800
<v Speaker 1>He's known for, you know, being a perimeter big that

0:22:42.840 --> 0:22:45.439
<v Speaker 1>can shoot the ball extremely well. We know brunts and

0:22:45.440 --> 0:22:47.280
<v Speaker 1>his brunts, and he's gonna get your buckets. He's gonna

0:22:47.320 --> 0:22:49.600
<v Speaker 1>make clutch shots. He's as clutch as any player that

0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:52.040
<v Speaker 1>we have in this league. So we know what he

0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:56.120
<v Speaker 1>represents is that when they play defense like this, they

0:22:56.280 --> 0:22:59.159
<v Speaker 1>make they force you into turnovers, and they make you

0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:02.520
<v Speaker 1>shoot thirty twenty six percent from the three. You're not

0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:05.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna beat them. And they double. You know, they've made

0:23:05.040 --> 0:23:08.840
<v Speaker 1>seventeen threes, you made you May nine. So now they're

0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:10.879
<v Speaker 1>out they twenty four. They're plus twenty four from the

0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:13.879
<v Speaker 1>three point line. So if somebody's plus twenty four from

0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:16.120
<v Speaker 1>the three point line and they force you into twenty

0:23:16.119 --> 0:23:18.280
<v Speaker 1>two turnovers, this probably what's gonna be the outcome of

0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:20.800
<v Speaker 1>the game. You're probably gonna get blown out. Yeah, It's

0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:23.320
<v Speaker 1>it's really that simple. It's really that simple. And so

0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:26.040
<v Speaker 1>give the next credit. I mean, I'm sure steven A

0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:32.800
<v Speaker 1>is happy about this, happy but not satisfied, right because

0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:35.480
<v Speaker 1>he knows they got to uphill struggle because Boston's played

0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:41.480
<v Speaker 1>well Boston. Boston is playing extremely well. Toronto's putting that

0:23:41.480 --> 0:23:44.040
<v Speaker 1>thing together. Toronto's better than people think. I watched them

0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:45.960
<v Speaker 1>the other night. You know, Scotty Barnes and b I

0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:49.360
<v Speaker 1>those guys. Those guys are playing are RJ Barrett. They

0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:53.439
<v Speaker 1>got some scores over there. They're playing really well. Y'alla portal, portal,

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<v Speaker 1>They're they're better than you think. Now do I think

0:23:58.320 --> 0:24:00.800
<v Speaker 1>they can beat the Knicks in the seven?

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<v Speaker 5>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when it's all saying done, it's probably gonna

0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:10.000
<v Speaker 1>be Boston and and and probably the Knicks. Looking at

0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:12.400
<v Speaker 1>how everything is kind of like shaping upbout you look

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:14.000
<v Speaker 1>like it's gonna be Boston in the Knicks. If I

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<v Speaker 1>had to bet anything, I like Philly, but I just

0:24:19.880 --> 0:24:23.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know if if in b and BID's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>healthy enough, Tyres Max is gonna be Tyree's Maxy, edgcumb

0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:30.280
<v Speaker 1>is gonna do it, edgcamb things they probably you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if and when PG is coming back.

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<v Speaker 2>But if I had it, he was like, Okay.

0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Shannon, who do you if you I mean, who do

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<v Speaker 1>you think is gonna be in the Eastern Conference Finals?

0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I'd probably say Boston and uh Boston and the Knicks.

0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:45.800
<v Speaker 1>And that's a that's an old rivalry that they had

0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:48.000
<v Speaker 1>when it happened last year. I don't know if we'll

0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:51.320
<v Speaker 1>ever get those those eighties rivalries that like it once was,

0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:54.600
<v Speaker 1>but we'll see. We'll see. The Knicks played well today

0:24:54.600 --> 0:24:56.600
<v Speaker 1>and they needed this ball game. They definitely needed this

0:24:56.640 --> 0:24:59.440
<v Speaker 1>ball game more than the Spurs. The Spardan needed to

0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:02.919
<v Speaker 1>try to keep place with OKC because the thing is,

0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:05.760
<v Speaker 1>like all things being Nicolas like, I think they probably

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:09.840
<v Speaker 1>need the home court more than OKC because the type

0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:12.480
<v Speaker 1>of ball the OKC play, it does travel. They got

0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:14.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of wings. They got five six guys that

0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:17.040
<v Speaker 1>can defend an elite level Shay, you already know pencil

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Shade in for thirty. You just feel, you know he's

0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:22.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna get there. Yeah, And so now you get a

0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:24.439
<v Speaker 1>couple of those other guys that come along with him.

0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:27.200
<v Speaker 1>You get Chat, you get j Doub, you get Wallace,

0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:29.159
<v Speaker 1>you get some of those other guys, Isaiah, Joe, you

0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:32.000
<v Speaker 1>get some of those other and Karusho he always shows

0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:34.359
<v Speaker 1>up in big games. He's gonna make the right play.

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:37.240
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna create chaos, he's gonna create turnovers. He's gonna

0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:38.960
<v Speaker 1>knock down a big three, He's gonna get a big,

0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:42.600
<v Speaker 1>big steal. He knows what these moments meant mean, having

0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:45.879
<v Speaker 1>played on that Lakers championship team and before that and

0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:47.840
<v Speaker 1>last year. He was a big reason why they won

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:51.560
<v Speaker 1>the championship last year. Some guys just understand the moment

0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:54.359
<v Speaker 1>and they can rise to the occasion in said moment,

0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:58.159
<v Speaker 1>and carushow Is definitely is one of those guys. So, uh,

0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:01.199
<v Speaker 1>the Spurs look leven straight games to get back in

0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 1>this thing, and they're the team that gives okay see

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:04.879
<v Speaker 1>the most trouble.

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:07.320
<v Speaker 2>But you never know the seven game series. You never know.

0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:12.160
<v Speaker 1>An injury here or injury there and he lifts the series.

0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:17.960
<v Speaker 1>The Calves showed their toughness today when they beat the

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 1>next one O six to one.

0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:19.360
<v Speaker 5>On two.

0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:22.199
<v Speaker 1>James Harden scored twenty two points in his return and

0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:25.720
<v Speaker 1>the lineup with a broken thumb. Kean Ellis also played

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:27.760
<v Speaker 1>with a fractionened finger today and still was able to

0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 1>put up five blocks and steets three steals. The Cavs

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:34.680
<v Speaker 1>got a defensive minutes at the trade deadline from the

0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:36.240
<v Speaker 1>Sacramento Kings.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look, the thing is that I think the it's.

0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:45.800
<v Speaker 1>On this non non shooting hand James is left and

0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I think it's his right thumb. Yeah, he played well

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 1>today in his return. I think he had twenty two

0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:53.639
<v Speaker 1>died in seven. I say something like that. The Bigs

0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 1>played played okay. I thought Evan Mobley played well. Uh

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 1>you look at this. This this is grad I don't

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:04.159
<v Speaker 1>know if you guys can see it. But Detroit forty

0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:07.560
<v Speaker 1>five and fourteen, the one seed currently Boston forty and twenty,

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:10.600
<v Speaker 1>the two seed the Knicks of thirty nine and twenty two.

0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:12.159
<v Speaker 2>The three seed the.

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Calves thirty eight and twenty four. The fourth seed Toronto

0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 1>thirty five and twenty five. To five seeds. So if

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:22.440
<v Speaker 1>the season end of the day, Cleveland would face Toronto,

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 1>the Knicks will placed face to seventy six ers, Boston

0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:31.720
<v Speaker 1>place the Magic, and Detroit, well, we'll play the whoever

0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:38.000
<v Speaker 1>wins out of the seventh the seven ten matchup. But look,

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:43.639
<v Speaker 1>it's close, obviously, it's not as you know, what is

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:46.600
<v Speaker 1>three and six. Three and six is a bigger separation

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:48.320
<v Speaker 1>than what it is in the Western Conference because it's

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:51.359
<v Speaker 1>only two games separating three from six in the Western

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Conference and it's about six games separating five and a

0:27:55.840 --> 0:28:00.440
<v Speaker 1>half separating three to six in the Eastern Conference. But Detroit,

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Detroit's looked, it looked well all year, they played really well.

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Uh they got an All NBA selection in uh kay Cunningham.

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 1>I think during is gonna be an All NBA selection. Also,

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 1>he might make the All Defensive team. Hell, k might

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 1>make the All Defensive team because he's he's that good.

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:19.399
<v Speaker 1>The problem they're gonna have is that Dirty is gonna

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 1>damn to get a max contract five years, over two

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:24.600
<v Speaker 1>hundred over two hundred million dollars.

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 2>And it's better.

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:28.280
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like football, oo cho, it's better to

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:29.520
<v Speaker 1>sign these guys earlier.

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Than late because they don't.

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 1>And in basketball they don't give discounts and teams don't

0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 1>even ask them.

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 2>In baseball, they don't give them no discounts.

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Ain't nobody who with Darren justin, Hey, Jude, check this out, man,

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 1>we try to put a team around you. Can you

0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 1>cut it? No, the on of the player, the players associated,

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 1>you won't let you do it. Show hey, and you

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:50.320
<v Speaker 1>ain't cut no deal. The only deal that he cut

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 1>is that he says, you know what, I'm nice, I'm nice,

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 1>like boss, give me two million a year and then

0:28:57.440 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 1>the other sixty eight. So he gets done. So he's

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 1>only cost him to million dollars a year. That's why

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 1>they're able to just stack players on top of players.

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 1>You get a Bready Freeman, you get a Betts, the

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 1>guy that just signed for sixty million a year. You

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 1>get those kind of guys because you get guys taking

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 1>deferred compensation. Now they'll do that, but it still keeps

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 1>the market up here, right and so, but it's gonna

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 1>be very very interesting.

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 2>The NBA has kind of been quiet this year. Old show.

0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 1>What well Steph has been out because you can see

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 1>the shifts coming.

0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:32.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, it's coming. The young guards coming, gonna

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:33.239
<v Speaker 2>move on.

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Steph is gonna move on, Katie's gonna move on, you know,

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:41.120
<v Speaker 1>and so things things is gonna be different. Things is

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:44.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna be different. The league is transitioned away from those guys,

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:47.600
<v Speaker 1>and that's okay. Uh, the Legal is in great hands.

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 1>It moved on from Doctor j Larry and Magic. It

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 1>moved on from Jordan, It moved on from Kobe and

0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 1>all those Shack and all those guys. The Legal be fine.

0:29:56.760 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 1>The Legal continue to prosper and they'll be fine. U.

0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to hold I'm looking up trying to look

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 1>up these stats right here.

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:09.520
<v Speaker 3>I think I mean the NBA obviously, the new guard

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 3>that is coming in. Uh, they have a lot of excitement, obviously,

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 3>players that that that can put busts in the seats

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:17.280
<v Speaker 3>that a lot of fans regards to what team you support,

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:19.480
<v Speaker 3>you look, you look forward to watching them, obviously, and man,

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:22.320
<v Speaker 3>you got you got Wimby. I'm not sure if you

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 3>would put Zion in that due to the inconsistency of

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 3>actually being healthy and actually.

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Playing, and Jo could have been in there.

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, obviously in that conversation, John, I'm not sure what's

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 3>going on with jo over Over?

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:39.960
<v Speaker 1>You got you got s g A, you got Man, Yeah, yeah,

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, you got Yoke obviously. Yeah, we mentioned we

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 1>got Bronson, JB j T is out. But the young guy,

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:51.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there are a lot of under thirty, under

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 1>thirty guys that's the league is gonna that's gonna have

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 1>to carry the league like those old guard like Magic

0:30:57.480 --> 0:31:00.440
<v Speaker 1>and Bird and Doc and and and and and Jordan

0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 1>and then Kobe and Shaq and here come Lebron and

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Kad and Steph and all those guys hardened. It's gonna,

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, gonna move on also. But those guys, you know,

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 1>go ahead.

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 3>You know what's funny it is obviously with the new

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 3>guard coming in and all the great names you just name,

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:18.120
<v Speaker 3>who the hell is the face of the NBA? Now,

0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 3>once that old guard moves on, who's the face?

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 1>They don't have one and they won't ad man, but

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 1>that man said no, let Winby do it. And man

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:28.360
<v Speaker 1>want to be a man, and you know, and man

0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 1>and man want to go you know, and man because

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 1>there's a that's pressure that comes along with that. You know,

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 1>you're image and everything and where you're going. How you

0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 1>can like that and answer, No, that ain't dam because

0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 1>I ain't Fenna hold y'all. You know, I ain't really

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:44.640
<v Speaker 1>try to, you know, when I'm Atlanta, y'all, y'all see

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:46.920
<v Speaker 1>that that the collab is going on with Magic City

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 1>and the Hawks. You know, I'm trying to be down now.

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to get on them. The Lemon Pepper wins.

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Hey, the collab is Mars sixteen.

0:31:55.880 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 3>We're going right, You and Joe going okay, okay, okay,

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:01.760
<v Speaker 3>Well me with me and Joe will tall you.

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 2>We'll tell you about it. Yeah, we'll tell you about

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 2>I might hit back.

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I might hit made and say, man, let me get

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 1>where the hoodies and they gotta letter Hall Magic City

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:11.640
<v Speaker 1>collab hooded that side.

0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:12.640
<v Speaker 2>I might take a look at that.

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 1>But uh, right now, right now, oh Joe, I don't think.

0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they got to face of the league,

0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>and and and you know, uh, obviously, all things being equal,

0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 1>who they want to be the face of the league.

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 1>That's not what he wants to be. And you know,

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:36.120
<v Speaker 1>you want somebody to embrace that. Guys used to break

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, Magic and Bird and Kobe and Jordan Lebron

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 1>and staff. They embraced it, and there are guys that

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:47.080
<v Speaker 1>are willing to embrace it. But in the NBA is like, nah,

0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:50.440
<v Speaker 1>we we don't kind of want you all to.

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Be the face. We won't. We want him, we want

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 2>him to be the face, right right, right right.

0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 1>But I think eventually it might have to because it's

0:32:57.320 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 1>becoming such an international game and some of yours players

0:33:00.560 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 1>are international. If you probably had to take a pick

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 1>your top five players in the NBA, maybe top seven

0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 1>or all international players, so that might be your face

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:09.080
<v Speaker 1>of your league.

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 2>Uh, it might have to be someone that's not even

0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:12.840
<v Speaker 2>from here.

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, because if you look at if you look

0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:19.240
<v Speaker 1>at it, I mean, if you look at baseball, it's

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:21.840
<v Speaker 1>one of two players, it's Aaron Judge of show hate.

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 1>And if you take a poll, they're probably gonna say

0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 1>ninety percent say show hate.

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah.

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:30.719
<v Speaker 1>But the MLB ojo has always had that. They've all

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 1>had Dominicans, they've always had Cuban players, They've all always

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:37.560
<v Speaker 1>had players from you know those countries.

0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah.

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:43.120
<v Speaker 1>And so now in the Asian born players where it

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 1>be uh Normo or Decie mat Sue each Yeah, they've

0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 1>also some Korean players, so they've always had that.

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 2>Basically this shift that happened.

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there were a few foreign born players, Like I said,

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I think I read somewhere it might have been nine

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:04.440
<v Speaker 1>players that was in the NBA in ninety two. And

0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 1>now you might have every team that play in the

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Olympics might have three four guys. You look at Canadians,

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:11.400
<v Speaker 1>damn in the Canadians, whole team is in the NBA.

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 1>The Slovenian team have players in the NBA, the Serbian teams,

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:18.719
<v Speaker 1>joking team Greece. So it's a lot more so now

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:21.480
<v Speaker 1>it might be it might you might not have a

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 1>choice but to have a Shade or a Yannis or

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 1>you know one of those guys, you know, a yoke

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:34.239
<v Speaker 1>as the face. It is what it is. It is

0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 1>what it is. Because right now Kate is coming. I

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:39.560
<v Speaker 1>think he's a couple, I mean ant Man, but it's

0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 1>ant Man that has a charisma.

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 2>He has the personal Yeah, he has the yeah yeah, yeah,

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 2>yeah he is, he is. He has a game to

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:55.880
<v Speaker 2>match o cho. Yeah. You have to want someone to

0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:57.560
<v Speaker 2>want it. He has to want to be it. Yeah.

0:34:57.680 --> 0:34:58.799
<v Speaker 2>You can't force it on him.

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:01.440
<v Speaker 3>And it comes too much, It comes with too much

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 3>pressure because you have to conduct yourself a certain way,

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 3>not only on the court as an example, but even

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:08.719
<v Speaker 3>off the court and at I mean, if you know

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:13.200
<v Speaker 3>aunt personally, that ain't that ain't happening. That definitely ain't happening.

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:15.520
<v Speaker 1>And you look at the quarterbacks, you look at them

0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:18.880
<v Speaker 1>that that's been the face of the league. You know,

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>you look at being Marino or Lway or Montana or

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:27.400
<v Speaker 1>Brady or Manning or my homes you see Josh Allen

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:29.719
<v Speaker 1>the way they kind of lead to that. Yeah, you know,

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:34.360
<v Speaker 1>josh'lla like, Man, I want to be the fact. Baby,

0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:36.279
<v Speaker 1>we've been doing this thing. We've been day for like

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:38.680
<v Speaker 1>six months. You want to get married, you know what

0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. You want to get mad on yo? Do

0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:43.560
<v Speaker 1>you see the quarterback that don't be wasting no time

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:43.920
<v Speaker 1>on yo?

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:44.879
<v Speaker 2>No? Quick?

0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 1>So we will see. I think, uh, there's some American

0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:55.719
<v Speaker 1>players that's getting better. Like I said, Kay Cunningham is

0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 1>getting unbelieved. We got ant Man, we got j T,

0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:02.880
<v Speaker 1>we got j J be j T would gladly, gladly

0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:05.640
<v Speaker 1>accept that role. The problem that he's having that he's

0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:10.120
<v Speaker 1>getting pushed from a teammate. Right, it's hard to be HOLDO.

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:11.359
<v Speaker 1>How are you the face of the league and you're

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:12.520
<v Speaker 1>not even the best player on your.

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Team or something. Some would say, not that.

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>That's that's the point, right, right, And so you know

0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:23.360
<v Speaker 1>normally with the guys the face of the NBA, you've.

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:25.279
<v Speaker 3>Got to be going out, yeah, on your team.

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:28.600
<v Speaker 1>So it's gonna be it's gonna be very interesting in

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:31.359
<v Speaker 1>the next I think, Look, we do all this talk

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:33.440
<v Speaker 1>at all, we want to until twenty three for the

0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:34.240
<v Speaker 1>Lakers league.

0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:37.719
<v Speaker 2>He's still in, you think so still he's still in.

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 2>He's still in, right, You.

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Look at his social media, you look at his engagement,

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:46.720
<v Speaker 1>you look at who moves the needle.

0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:51.520
<v Speaker 2>Right, it ain't no question, no question understandable.

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Former Laka brons God wants Lebron James off the team.

0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:00.399
<v Speaker 1>Scott said, I think he should be his last year here.

0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:02.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't he don't have to go home, but you

0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 1>got to get the hell out of here.

0:37:04.040 --> 0:37:04.400
<v Speaker 2>O Jo.

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Are you see Byron Scott publicly calling for Lebron's departure?

0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 3>That that wasn't ai Byron Scott really said that.

0:37:14.880 --> 0:37:18.879
<v Speaker 2>You heard Bion Byron Scott really said that publicly. That's

0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:19.439
<v Speaker 2>what he's saying.

0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:23.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you podcast, I mean that's that's crazy. And obviously

0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:26.359
<v Speaker 3>maybe maybe I don't I doubt that Byron Scott would

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 3>really feel that way, or maybe he actually does, because

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 3>Lebron is not the same Lebron of old but but

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:34.520
<v Speaker 3>but but saying that he needs to leave LA and

0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:37.840
<v Speaker 3>Luke would just be the only person there that that

0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 3>is somewhat consistently outside of Austin Reeves makes no damn sense.

0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:44.760
<v Speaker 3>So why is Lebron being the one that's being called

0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:47.160
<v Speaker 3>out from Byron Scott when all the other issues that

0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:49.400
<v Speaker 3>even Ray Charles can see that they have going on

0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:50.399
<v Speaker 3>with the Lakers right now.

0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:51.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:54.680
<v Speaker 1>I think the thing is and I don't know when

0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:58.920
<v Speaker 1>this started happened, that that that guys from an organization,

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:02.520
<v Speaker 1>great guys from an organization with all of a sudden

0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:05.760
<v Speaker 1>call like guys that's currently within the organization. And maybe

0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 1>this is a Kobe thing. Lebron was never really accepted

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 1>even though he really revitalized the Lakers organization. I don't

0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:15.360
<v Speaker 1>care what anybody says. And I think the fans understand.

0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:18.480
<v Speaker 1>They know that they know what what what the Lakers

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 1>were Kobe last three years and when Kobe left, they

0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:24.440
<v Speaker 1>know what the Lakers were I don't know what what

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:26.520
<v Speaker 1>what is this? What?

0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:28.400
<v Speaker 2>What? What are we talking about?

0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:31.759
<v Speaker 1>If Lebron doesn't come, the Lakers are not selling for

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:35.200
<v Speaker 1>a billion dollars. You're not You're not gonna be able

0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:38.200
<v Speaker 1>to get Luca because you don't get a D. A

0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:42.760
<v Speaker 1>D is not coming to LAM. It's just I don't

0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what Lebron did to piss so many

0:38:46.560 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 1>great players off.

0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh he No, he didn't, No, he didn't.

0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I get it, Oh Joe. In a lot of times,

0:38:54.000 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 1>we talk about this on the show all the time.

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:56.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh Joe.

0:38:56.480 --> 0:38:59.120
<v Speaker 1>These guys currently in the in the in the NFL

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:03.319
<v Speaker 1>get and things we didn't get. But I don't begrudge

0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:06.160
<v Speaker 1>them because we got things in the nineties and two

0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 1>thousands that guys in the seventies and eighties didn't get. Yeah,

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:11.759
<v Speaker 1>they got things in the seventies and eighties that guys

0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:14.319
<v Speaker 1>in the fifties and sixties didn't get. It's this thing

0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 1>called evolution. The game grows, the game e bobs and

0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:23.839
<v Speaker 1>people get more things. It's okay, But this notion that

0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Lebron James is the only one that's ever had power

0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:30.040
<v Speaker 1>within the organization. Do y'all realize that a man won

0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:32.839
<v Speaker 1>a nationally win a championship and Magic had a fallen out,

0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:35.040
<v Speaker 1>and he says they seither him or me, and doctor

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Buss fired the coach that won an NBA title. Ye,

0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:44.759
<v Speaker 1>that happened, lam Bird did the same thing. It happens,

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:48.799
<v Speaker 1>but for some reason, anything that goes wrong, that is

0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:51.600
<v Speaker 1>the reason why. That's what free agency was meant to do.

0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:53.720
<v Speaker 1>So you mean to tell me you want free agency

0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 1>and then want guys to say if that was the case,

0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:56.719
<v Speaker 1>what was freeedgency for?

0:39:58.120 --> 0:39:59.319
<v Speaker 2>What was phregity for? O Joe?

0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:05.439
<v Speaker 1>If guys not gonna move around? I get it. Teams trade, team,

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:08.360
<v Speaker 1>a trade a player like it's nothing. Don't perform, and

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:10.160
<v Speaker 1>what they do, even if you do perform, if they

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:11.840
<v Speaker 1>think they can get better, they'll move you.

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 2>When now players say, you know what, I think, I'm gone.

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:19.680
<v Speaker 1>I think it's going about as far as it can. Yeah,

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:22.760
<v Speaker 1>But Lebron, there are been a lot of guys that's moved,

0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:26.399
<v Speaker 1>but nobody has caught the criticism. And Lebron James has

0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:29.640
<v Speaker 1>never asked for a trade. Every time Lebron James has

0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:32.840
<v Speaker 1>moved O Joe, he's played his contract out. He played

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 1>his contract out in Cleveland, he went to Miami. He

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:38.440
<v Speaker 1>played that four years out. He went back to Cleveland,

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 1>he played that four years out, and he headed to

0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:45.520
<v Speaker 1>l A. I just I just don't get it. I

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:49.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I've never You've never, I've never heard so

0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:55.200
<v Speaker 1>many great players, championship winning players take shots at Lebron.

0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:59.600
<v Speaker 3>It comes with the territory, he says at the top

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:02.640
<v Speaker 3>of the mountain. He's the great one, He's the chosen one.

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:05.799
<v Speaker 3>He's the one with the moniker, the king. So what

0:41:05.840 --> 0:41:09.279
<v Speaker 3>do they do regardless of his accomplishments, regards of his accolades,

0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:11.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, I mean you people, they argue that you're

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:14.640
<v Speaker 3>in Lebron debate. What's about the greatest basketball player of

0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:17.600
<v Speaker 3>all time? So what happens when you're the greatest at

0:41:17.640 --> 0:41:20.000
<v Speaker 3>what you do? Regardless of what you've done, even those

0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:22.480
<v Speaker 3>that have played, you know, your sport, they're going to

0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:24.800
<v Speaker 3>have something to say, whether it's good or bad, because

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:27.960
<v Speaker 3>what you've done is not enough to them, despite what

0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 3>we may think on the outside, despite what you may

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:32.680
<v Speaker 3>think and understanding how great Lebron is and what he's

0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:36.000
<v Speaker 3>done for organizations to date, again.

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:38.960
<v Speaker 2>He moved the needle. So what's one way to move

0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 2>the needle.

0:41:39.600 --> 0:41:42.160
<v Speaker 3>On a platform we want ies and viewers to listen.

0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:44.960
<v Speaker 3>You talk about the one all the way at the top.

0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 1>But I think Lebron is smart enough to know Ojo.

0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:51.600
<v Speaker 1>He knows there's nothing he could do to topple Kobe.

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 1>That's not what he's just because I be just because

0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:57.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to achieve something. That doesn't mean I'm trying

0:41:57.360 --> 0:42:01.640
<v Speaker 1>to take your statue down. Why can't we both regret?

0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I think he understands that in Miami it's gonna be

0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:06.760
<v Speaker 1>it's Wade County.

0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 2>He understood that.

0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Do I believe Do I believe in Dwayne Wade knows

0:42:10.400 --> 0:42:12.640
<v Speaker 1>that Lebron is a better player. Yes, but if you're

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:15.880
<v Speaker 1>my ask Miami Heat fan, they'll say d Wade right.

0:42:16.239 --> 0:42:19.279
<v Speaker 1>So he knew, no matter what he did, he could

0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:25.040
<v Speaker 1>not be winning US Championships to overcome Kobe, Magic, Kareem

0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:25.880
<v Speaker 1>and Shock.

0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 2>That wasn't gonna happen.

0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:30.560
<v Speaker 1>And I think he I don't think he's He was

0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:32.759
<v Speaker 1>that naive, just like man, you know what, And I

0:42:32.800 --> 0:42:35.759
<v Speaker 1>don't think he win it with that mindset. He did'n

0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:38.799
<v Speaker 1>going with that mindset Kobe. Kobe came there as a

0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:43.440
<v Speaker 1>seventeen year old kid and left as a fully grown

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:48.840
<v Speaker 1>married father of three four kids. Rest his soul and gig.

0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:54.279
<v Speaker 1>That's what he did there, and that's okay. Same thing

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:58.360
<v Speaker 1>with Magic. Magic came there and never left. Magic was

0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:02.520
<v Speaker 1>a twenty year old now mostly the other great player,

0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:06.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously a shock. Uh spent four spent four years,

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 1>if I'm not mistaken, in Orlando. Kareem spent I think

0:43:10.400 --> 0:43:14.920
<v Speaker 1>six years in Milwaukee. But you know, you look at

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:18.319
<v Speaker 1>James Worthy, you look at Jered Wes a lot, you know,

0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 1>and and and Elgin Baylor. Uh, those guys you know,

0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:28.680
<v Speaker 1>spent their careers there. But I just I don't know

0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:31.440
<v Speaker 1>what Lebron did to piss off so many people.

0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:35.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh Joe, Yeah.

0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I believe I can, like I can like Travis Kelce

0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:44.920
<v Speaker 1>without constantly taking shots at Gronk, constantly taking shots at

0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:46.880
<v Speaker 1>at Gates or Gonzales.

0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 2>I believe I can do that.

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 1>But it's almost like I wonder if he was, if

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:58.000
<v Speaker 1>he was anywhere else other than the Lakers. And I

0:43:58.040 --> 0:43:59.640
<v Speaker 1>love be Scott. I used to see be Scott all

0:43:59.680 --> 0:44:01.960
<v Speaker 1>the time. Gym we used to see the gym equinox

0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:03.440
<v Speaker 1>and I used to see beat Scott all the time.

0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:06.000
<v Speaker 1>We always talk and he's a great guy. But I

0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:10.040
<v Speaker 1>wonder if Lebron wasn't on the Lakers, would he still

0:44:10.080 --> 0:44:11.439
<v Speaker 1>feel his time for Lebron to leave?

0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:15.400
<v Speaker 3>No, absolutely not, because I mean is his love for

0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:18.120
<v Speaker 3>the Lakers. It'd be different because it's not on my team.

0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:23.399
<v Speaker 1>Because when Kobe last year's do you hear anything about

0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:23.880
<v Speaker 1>the Lakers?

0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:25.719
<v Speaker 2>You know, damn well, nobody would dare say that.

0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:28.719
<v Speaker 1>No, but no, I ain't talking about talking want Kobe

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:31.360
<v Speaker 1>to leave. But he wasn't even mentioned the Lakers. The Lakers,

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:34.319
<v Speaker 1>they have no chance. Ain't nobody talking about Lakers and

0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:36.839
<v Speaker 1>a chance to contend for a title? Nobody mentioned that?

0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 1>And then when Kobe left, ain't nobody mentioned the Lakers

0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:43.520
<v Speaker 1>to contending for a title. The mere fact that you

0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:47.480
<v Speaker 1>even think it's possible is because Lord was a forty

0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:50.560
<v Speaker 1>one year old to get to the championship. Let you

0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:53.239
<v Speaker 1>know just how great this man is. Tell me the

0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:56.920
<v Speaker 1>time in history another forty something year old has played

0:44:57.160 --> 0:44:59.719
<v Speaker 1>and you know what a chance to get to the

0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:02.840
<v Speaker 1>champ or they had a chance to contend for a TITANU.

0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Outside of time leaving New Englan until God damn to

0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:14.080
<v Speaker 2>the NBA. Okay, now, not Jordan, not Kobe. His longevity, yes,

0:45:14.640 --> 0:45:17.359
<v Speaker 2>but look you got his reading for whatever it is.

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know, so I don't want

0:45:19.600 --> 0:45:22.239
<v Speaker 1>to get into speculating. That was something said. I don't know.

0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:25.359
<v Speaker 1>And I know be Scott loved his Lakers and if

0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:28.279
<v Speaker 1>you played in this organization most especially he spent most

0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:32.279
<v Speaker 1>of his years there. Yeah, m but be Scott, you

0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:37.520
<v Speaker 1>know now, you know that there was a transition that

0:45:37.560 --> 0:45:40.080
<v Speaker 1>when Kobe won the championship in ten, nine and ten,

0:45:40.840 --> 0:45:46.200
<v Speaker 1>they didn't come close. They didn't come close, and nobody

0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:55.239
<v Speaker 1>said the thing ain't Nobody said so eleven twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen,

0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:59.000
<v Speaker 1>So eight years, nine years, the ain't.

0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:03.279
<v Speaker 2>No like if they ain't come loos. Yeah, m hmm.

0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:11.160
<v Speaker 1>And y'all had Kobe, So you had Kobe eleven twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixty,

0:46:11.320 --> 0:46:12.280
<v Speaker 1>fifteen fifteen.

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:16.000
<v Speaker 3>Hey, well they ain't had nothing to go with him though. Hey,

0:46:16.480 --> 0:46:18.080
<v Speaker 3>it was the main course with no sound.

0:46:18.320 --> 0:46:20.520
<v Speaker 1>You don't need nothing because when le when Lebron didn't

0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:21.520
<v Speaker 1>have nothing to go on to him, y'all to.

0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Say, if he was great, he would win. That's what

0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:24.840
<v Speaker 2>y'all did with Lebron.

0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:27.879
<v Speaker 1>Now they did this when Lebron when you never did

0:46:27.920 --> 0:46:30.760
<v Speaker 1>that with anybody else. Yeah, you didn't do that with

0:46:30.960 --> 0:46:32.560
<v Speaker 1>like you see what you say, You see what you're saying.

0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:32.919
<v Speaker 1>On yall?

0:46:33.000 --> 0:46:34.400
<v Speaker 2>They done got you convinced of that?

0:46:35.000 --> 0:46:37.319
<v Speaker 3>Oh No, I mean, I'm just being honest. I'm just

0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:39.640
<v Speaker 3>being honest. I mean Kobe, Kobe's the main dish. There

0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:41.840
<v Speaker 3>was no size to go with it. There wasn't no dessert,

0:46:42.120 --> 0:46:44.000
<v Speaker 3>so the chance of winning was slimming none.

0:46:44.239 --> 0:46:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Now do you so great?

0:46:46.200 --> 0:46:50.000
<v Speaker 1>That's what you do. You don't need nobody who needed teammates?

0:46:50.480 --> 0:46:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Show what y'all tell y'all be because every time I

0:46:52.719 --> 0:46:55.320
<v Speaker 1>turn around, he couldn't win a championship without d Wade,

0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:58.080
<v Speaker 1>he couldn't win a championship without Kyrie, He couldn't win

0:46:58.080 --> 0:47:00.960
<v Speaker 1>a championship with I Anthony Davis. And you just told

0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:04.240
<v Speaker 1>me Kobe ain't have nobody to go with it. Last

0:47:04.280 --> 0:47:06.640
<v Speaker 1>I checked Shacks in the Hall of Fame. Last I

0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:08.640
<v Speaker 1>checked piled the sault Is in the Hall of Fame.

0:47:09.200 --> 0:47:11.439
<v Speaker 1>Last I checked Scotty Pippot's in the Hall of Fame.

0:47:11.719 --> 0:47:14.719
<v Speaker 1>Tennis problems in the Hall of Fame. So in other words,

0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:16.799
<v Speaker 1>what you're trying to tell me if that, no matter

0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:20.239
<v Speaker 1>how great you are, you need a team made a.

0:47:20.280 --> 0:47:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Two absolutely, okay, I'm just checking.

0:47:22.960 --> 0:47:25.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm just you know, you got to have a two

0:47:25.560 --> 0:47:27.600
<v Speaker 3>headed monster. If you got three, it'd make it even

0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:30.440
<v Speaker 3>make it that it make it that that much easier

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:33.200
<v Speaker 3>if you got three. But thinking you're gonna get it done,

0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:35.279
<v Speaker 3>but one man, you got four, you know, just four

0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:37.239
<v Speaker 3>partners out there, just just going through the motion.

0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:40.080
<v Speaker 2>It's not happening. Duncan not happening.

0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Duncan had Manu, had Manu and Tony Parker and then

0:47:43.120 --> 0:47:44.400
<v Speaker 1>the last one he had Kawhi.

0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:48.719
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm, Hey, boy, Kawhi was crazy at uh with

0:47:48.760 --> 0:47:49.280
<v Speaker 3>the Spurs.

0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:55.120
<v Speaker 2>Boy oh after tim after Timmy left, what my goodness.

0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:57.000
<v Speaker 1>He knew, he knew he had to take over more

0:47:57.000 --> 0:47:58.640
<v Speaker 1>of a role. He had to take you know, he

0:47:59.040 --> 0:48:01.879
<v Speaker 1>was perfectly tim play in the back seat. You know, Hey,

0:48:01.880 --> 0:48:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I let all A, let Manu, let TP let Timmy.

0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:08.600
<v Speaker 2>Popsy Noah, bro, there's time for you.

0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:12.520
<v Speaker 1>He's like, Okay, I get you twenty five, twenty six

0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:14.960
<v Speaker 1>a night and lock it down on the other end.

0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:17.680
<v Speaker 2>But I'm surprised.

0:48:19.600 --> 0:48:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I think the thing that's surprised it is that people say, Look,

0:48:23.080 --> 0:48:25.800
<v Speaker 1>people might feel a certain way and might say things

0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:28.719
<v Speaker 1>in private oyo that never get public air.

0:48:30.120 --> 0:48:32.360
<v Speaker 2>But to say this publicly, I'm a little.

0:48:32.200 --> 0:48:34.880
<v Speaker 3>Surprised, you know what, and you know, we don't know.

0:48:35.239 --> 0:48:38.000
<v Speaker 3>Also what there might be things that go on behind

0:48:38.040 --> 0:48:40.000
<v Speaker 3>closed doors. There might be things that are said that

0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:42.799
<v Speaker 3>going behind closed doors that we don't know about. That

0:48:42.920 --> 0:48:45.960
<v Speaker 3>also makes Byron Scott say something like this publicly that

0:48:46.200 --> 0:48:48.960
<v Speaker 3>has nothing to do with anything that we know.

0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:50.240
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:48:50.480 --> 0:48:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Here, Scott also seemed to take issue with Lebron saying

0:48:53.120 --> 0:48:55.680
<v Speaker 1>today's games it's harder to play than in the eighties

0:48:55.719 --> 0:48:57.759
<v Speaker 1>and nineties. The game is different. I want people and

0:48:57.800 --> 0:48:59.840
<v Speaker 1>our fans to understand that playing eighty two games in

0:48:59.800 --> 0:49:02.000
<v Speaker 1>the eighties and nineties is not the same as playing

0:49:02.040 --> 0:49:04.640
<v Speaker 1>eighty two games in the twenty twenties. It's just not

0:49:04.880 --> 0:49:07.120
<v Speaker 1>the way we played. The level of pace, the level

0:49:07.120 --> 0:49:09.440
<v Speaker 1>of speed in which we're playing a different it's a different.

0:49:09.120 --> 0:49:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Game now is a totally different game. It is. It is.

0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:19.120
<v Speaker 1>When when when when? When Beast God played in the

0:49:19.120 --> 0:49:21.840
<v Speaker 1>eighties and the nineties, they might have had two guys

0:49:21.840 --> 0:49:26.480
<v Speaker 1>per team that can shoot the three. Now on the

0:49:26.520 --> 0:49:29.560
<v Speaker 1>twelve man roster, they got ten guys that can shoot

0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:31.520
<v Speaker 1>the three, and you have to guard them all.

0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:33.160
<v Speaker 2>Bless you.

0:49:35.000 --> 0:49:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Everybody is a vible option. There weren't no such thing

0:49:38.080 --> 0:49:40.160
<v Speaker 1>as no stretch five, no stretch four.

0:49:42.320 --> 0:49:42.840
<v Speaker 2>They have that.

0:49:42.920 --> 0:49:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Now the pace is increased, Blessing. Yeah, the pace has increased,

0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:52.359
<v Speaker 1>and you have to guard multiple every For the most part,

0:49:52.400 --> 0:49:54.800
<v Speaker 1>every agains evolution.

0:49:55.400 --> 0:49:59.959
<v Speaker 2>Guys are more skilled. The guys are skilled, yeah much better.

0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:02.640
<v Speaker 1>You ain't have no Kevin Durants. You ain't have no

0:50:02.719 --> 0:50:07.480
<v Speaker 1>damn whimpies. You didn't have that. You damn you ain't

0:50:07.480 --> 0:50:08.920
<v Speaker 1>have no Steph courage.

0:50:10.239 --> 0:50:10.520
<v Speaker 2>Lest you.

0:50:13.800 --> 0:50:21.480
<v Speaker 1>It's okay, it's okay, it's uh. It's a different game now.

0:50:22.600 --> 0:50:26.359
<v Speaker 1>The NBA is, the NBA is different that uh, the

0:50:26.440 --> 0:50:32.040
<v Speaker 1>NFL is different. I mean the game is. It's become.

0:50:32.120 --> 0:50:34.600
<v Speaker 1>The guys are doing, oh Joe, guys are doing more

0:50:34.640 --> 0:50:37.560
<v Speaker 1>exotic coverages now than when when when you and I played.

0:50:38.120 --> 0:50:39.960
<v Speaker 2>That's okay, it's okay to say that.

0:50:39.960 --> 0:50:42.800
<v Speaker 1>That's not to diminish our era, that's not to enhance

0:50:42.880 --> 0:50:43.319
<v Speaker 1>their era.

0:50:43.600 --> 0:50:48.000
<v Speaker 2>It's just facts. You no more. The scouting departments have

0:50:48.080 --> 0:50:48.720
<v Speaker 2>gotten better.

0:50:48.920 --> 0:50:53.239
<v Speaker 1>You think you think scouting now back you think when

0:50:53.239 --> 0:50:58.879
<v Speaker 1>they started scouting players, uh uh with Cleveland Browns when

0:50:59.080 --> 0:51:01.360
<v Speaker 1>they first started. The thing is is that Paul Bryd's

0:51:01.400 --> 0:51:03.799
<v Speaker 1>reported that Paul Brown the reason why they tied the

0:51:03.800 --> 0:51:06.520
<v Speaker 1>forty O joe, because that's how far the punt went.

0:51:07.320 --> 0:51:10.399
<v Speaker 1>So how fast could somebody get down there to gid you? Oh,

0:51:10.440 --> 0:51:13.439
<v Speaker 1>the ball normally hung up there by four point five seconds, right,

0:51:14.280 --> 0:51:16.279
<v Speaker 1>four point five seconds. You could run like that cause

0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:22.360
<v Speaker 1>you're running pretty good. That Dallas Cowboys and Gil Brandt

0:51:22.520 --> 0:51:24.960
<v Speaker 1>took it a step further because O joe. You know,

0:51:25.000 --> 0:51:27.480
<v Speaker 1>they used to draft players and never work them out.

0:51:27.640 --> 0:51:29.319
<v Speaker 1>They just look at the scouting thing, look at them

0:51:29.360 --> 0:51:31.120
<v Speaker 1>and look at them in college. Weell you gonna play,

0:51:31.160 --> 0:51:33.640
<v Speaker 1>So come on, we're gonna draft you first. We're gonna

0:51:33.719 --> 0:51:35.200
<v Speaker 1>draft you the second round. We're gonna draft you the

0:51:35.200 --> 0:51:39.360
<v Speaker 1>fifteenth round, the seventeenth round. Then the Cowboys take it

0:51:39.400 --> 0:51:44.400
<v Speaker 1>a step further. Gil Brandt tex stramp the actually brain players.

0:51:44.520 --> 0:51:48.480
<v Speaker 1>They put them through everything, hence a combine, a combined

0:51:48.560 --> 0:51:52.960
<v Speaker 1>style workout. So you think, so, you think the way

0:51:53.000 --> 0:51:55.719
<v Speaker 1>they started scouting players in the sixties is the same

0:51:55.760 --> 0:51:58.880
<v Speaker 1>way these scout players. Now, they got these scouts on

0:51:58.920 --> 0:52:02.920
<v Speaker 1>the road every day and weekend, every week, they find

0:52:02.960 --> 0:52:05.720
<v Speaker 1>somewhere looking at players. They didn't do that in the sixties.

0:52:06.080 --> 0:52:09.200
<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, they didn't even have a combine.

0:52:09.640 --> 0:52:11.840
<v Speaker 1>They just drafted a guy based on what his college

0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:14.720
<v Speaker 1>numbers were, how he looked at college, and they drafted him.

0:52:14.840 --> 0:52:17.920
<v Speaker 2>So things change people, and it's okay, it is okay.

0:52:18.200 --> 0:52:22.080
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't mean that doesn't take away anything from the sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties,

0:52:22.080 --> 0:52:23.360
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and so forth and on.

0:52:24.719 --> 0:52:27.799
<v Speaker 2>It's just that's just the way it is. It is.

0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:34.600
<v Speaker 1>It happens, and technology changes old choke. Look look at

0:52:34.680 --> 0:52:38.520
<v Speaker 1>the cleves, look at the helmets, look at the basketball shoe.

0:52:38.640 --> 0:52:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Look at the way they trained horses. That needs changed.

0:52:44.239 --> 0:52:46.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why people can't see that evolution. It's

0:52:46.920 --> 0:52:49.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna happen with your blessing or without not.

0:52:49.760 --> 0:52:53.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, or they don't care when one or

0:52:53.040 --> 0:52:55.680
<v Speaker 3>the other. They complain it. They're complaining about it anyway.

0:52:56.200 --> 0:52:57.479
<v Speaker 3>Everything gets better over time.

0:52:58.840 --> 0:52:59.240
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

0:52:59.360 --> 0:53:02.359
<v Speaker 1>Tonight, Lebron moved into fifth place on the Lakers all

0:53:02.440 --> 0:53:07.360
<v Speaker 1>time assist list, surpassing Michael Cooper. Magic is one Kobe

0:53:07.400 --> 0:53:11.520
<v Speaker 1>is two, Jerry West is three, Storming Norman Nickson is four,

0:53:11.920 --> 0:53:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Lebron is five, Cooper is six, Kareem is seven, elgend

0:53:16.480 --> 0:53:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Baylor is eight. Excuse me, this is Lebron's eighth season

0:53:22.800 --> 0:53:26.680
<v Speaker 1>with the Lakers. Obviously, we know Kobe spent twenty years

0:53:26.680 --> 0:53:29.920
<v Speaker 1>their Magic. I think from seventy nine. I think Magic

0:53:29.920 --> 0:53:37.000
<v Speaker 1>played about twelve years, Coop played. We know Kareem played

0:53:37.040 --> 0:53:47.800
<v Speaker 1>I think thirteen fourteen years there. And I saw Lebron

0:53:47.920 --> 0:53:50.120
<v Speaker 1>is the second Laker to make a thousand and threes,

0:53:51.080 --> 0:53:54.879
<v Speaker 1>only behind Kobe. And obviously, you know Kobe played twenty

0:53:54.920 --> 0:53:59.520
<v Speaker 1>season with that organization and was great, and Lebron is

0:53:59.560 --> 0:54:00.360
<v Speaker 1>already second.

0:54:00.360 --> 0:54:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Obviously, they shoot more.

0:54:01.360 --> 0:54:04.120
<v Speaker 1>Threes now than they did back when Kobe got into

0:54:04.160 --> 0:54:08.399
<v Speaker 1>the league. O Jo, how do you think Lebron would

0:54:08.440 --> 0:54:12.440
<v Speaker 1>be remembered as a Laker? You think that he You

0:54:12.480 --> 0:54:15.680
<v Speaker 1>think he gets his jersey retired. You think he gets

0:54:15.680 --> 0:54:16.840
<v Speaker 1>a statue out front.

0:54:18.320 --> 0:54:19.080
<v Speaker 2>You know what I don't.

0:54:19.120 --> 0:54:21.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't think he gets a statue off front, but

0:54:21.080 --> 0:54:23.160
<v Speaker 3>I think he gets in jersey retired. I mean what

0:54:23.040 --> 0:54:25.680
<v Speaker 3>he was able to do once he came to the

0:54:25.760 --> 0:54:29.120
<v Speaker 3>Lakers and helping that franchise obviously win a ring, a

0:54:29.200 --> 0:54:31.360
<v Speaker 3>ring that a lot of people put an asterisk behind

0:54:31.400 --> 0:54:34.759
<v Speaker 3>because it was a bubble ring or whatever it may be.

0:54:34.200 --> 0:54:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Because Lebron wanted somebody put no bubble behind it.

0:54:37.680 --> 0:54:42.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I understand what you're saying. But people have

0:54:42.200 --> 0:54:45.080
<v Speaker 3>to understand and and and and take whatever hate they

0:54:45.080 --> 0:54:46.880
<v Speaker 3>may have for Lebron to understand and what he was

0:54:46.880 --> 0:54:48.960
<v Speaker 3>able to do during his time during his tenure with

0:54:48.960 --> 0:54:52.040
<v Speaker 3>the Lakers, with what he had to work with outside

0:54:52.080 --> 0:54:54.520
<v Speaker 3>of that, I mean, being one of the greatest, arguably

0:54:54.800 --> 0:54:57.759
<v Speaker 3>the greatest, the one or two basketball players who ever

0:54:57.800 --> 0:55:00.520
<v Speaker 3>played this game, I think he should be ag knowledge

0:55:00.960 --> 0:55:03.759
<v Speaker 3>in such a fashion, in such a way based on

0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:06.680
<v Speaker 3>that alone, whether he gets a statue or not, but

0:55:06.800 --> 0:55:10.200
<v Speaker 3>retiring to twenty three jersey for the Lakers, it would

0:55:10.200 --> 0:55:13.640
<v Speaker 3>only be right, and not to do so, it'd be ridiculous.

0:55:13.640 --> 0:55:15.040
<v Speaker 2>It'd be damn egregious.

0:55:15.600 --> 0:55:17.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, imagine, Oh Jo, just thinking about this, I

0:55:17.560 --> 0:55:21.799
<v Speaker 1>want you to picture this. Tom Brady is one of

0:55:21.800 --> 0:55:26.399
<v Speaker 1>the three greatest high school football players ever. Yes, he

0:55:26.440 --> 0:55:30.200
<v Speaker 1>goes to college and he's one of the three greatest

0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:32.080
<v Speaker 1>college football players ever.

0:55:32.480 --> 0:55:37.320
<v Speaker 2>And the next big thing. And he comes to the NFL.

0:55:38.600 --> 0:55:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Even as a great high school player and a great

0:55:41.120 --> 0:55:47.600
<v Speaker 1>collegiate player, he's even better in the NFL. Well, that's

0:55:47.600 --> 0:55:50.879
<v Speaker 1>what Lebron James was. Yes, he's one of the three

0:55:52.120 --> 0:55:56.920
<v Speaker 1>great high school players ever. And whatever you may have

0:55:57.040 --> 0:56:00.279
<v Speaker 1>thought he could have been, he superseded.

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<v Speaker 3>That, exceeded it completely.

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<v Speaker 2>He's exponentially.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody thought this man would be a fourth time league MVP.

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<v Speaker 1>Go to ten NBA finals, win four of them, fourth finals, MVPs,

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<v Speaker 1>what two to three All Star Game MVPs. He's the

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<v Speaker 1>all time leading scorer, he's the fourth leading or sister.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a top thirty rebounder.

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<v Speaker 2>He the top.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifteen or ten, A six guy, I mean a steals guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody thought that whatever you thought Lebron James can be

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<v Speaker 1>based on what he was in high school. And they've

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<v Speaker 1>been a lot of great high school players, right Lebron.

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<v Speaker 2>O Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>And his name hadn't come up on any crime blodder,

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<v Speaker 1>he hadn't been a source of tabloid speculation.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been squeaky squeaky clean.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, most definitely, most definitely, And still people find fault. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>he flops. All great players hunt calls, they do just

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<v Speaker 4>like every time the quarterback gets hit, what does he do? O?

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<v Speaker 2>Yo, look the flag.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they just saw that man hit me. I know

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<v Speaker 1>we're playing football, but he wasn't supposed to hit me.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't supposed to hit me.

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<v Speaker 5>Hit me.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's supposed to lay me down. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>ain't got no pillow. Hey, you got to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the sideline and get him a pillow so he can

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<v Speaker 1>throw me on the pillow.

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<v Speaker 3>People always complain it just depends on who's doing the flopping.

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<v Speaker 3>It always depends on who's doing the hunting. Then they

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<v Speaker 3>turn a blind eye. Depends on who it is. That's

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<v Speaker 3>all it is true.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you though I don't think he gets

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<v Speaker 1>a statue, but I do think I think they based

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<v Speaker 1>on what he's done, you know, the All Star, the

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<v Speaker 1>All Star games. I think so he's been the eight

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<v Speaker 1>All Star, he's been, what he's been, he's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a seven time All NBA selection. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you cut his career up in sevens, in sevens, or

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<v Speaker 1>if you cut it up in eights, he's a Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Fame player. Every eight, every eight, he's a Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Famer.

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<v Speaker 2>That's crazy, And I know they're gonna miss him when

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<v Speaker 2>he's gone. Let him tell it.

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<v Speaker 3>The game will continue to go on. Yeah, it's gone,

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<v Speaker 3>but it won't be anything like that. We won't see

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<v Speaker 3>anything like this for a very long time, if ever,

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<v Speaker 3>if ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Again. No no no, no, no, no no no no no.

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<v Speaker 1>A guy, a guy, a guy that played this long

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<v Speaker 1>and to play play that great long.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah,