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Speaker 1: Man and the Tea Wolves moving to the fourth in
Speaker 1: the Western Conference thanks to a one seventeen to one
Speaker 1: oh eight victory over the Nuggets. Minnesota beat Denver for
Speaker 1: the first time in four games this season. Ant Man
Speaker 1: had twenty one bones, Highland had fifteen of his eighteen
Speaker 1: in the first half, and Minnesota sweeps is three game
Speaker 1: road trip to improve the thirty eight to twenty three,
Speaker 1: jumping to fourth in the West. Minnesota now moved a
Speaker 1: game ahead of Denver in the Western Conference. There's just
Speaker 1: two games separating the third seed, which is the Rockets,
Speaker 1: and the sixth seed, which is the Lakers. They got
Speaker 1: an outstanding performance in the fourth quarter from Naz Reid,
Speaker 1: who looked like Kobe Bryant. He did an in and out,
Speaker 1: got an an one, He did an out and end
Speaker 1: and threw it up with a left hand. He got
Speaker 1: that in a big three, so he played unbelievable. They
Speaker 1: got great contributions. Ant Man didn't go off like he
Speaker 1: had been in the last couple of games, but they
Speaker 1: get with a total team effort. It was too much
Speaker 1: for the joke to overcome joke and Murray, but they
Speaker 1: got slopped with the ball late and the ball gave
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, watching this game, what did you like about
Speaker 1: what Minnesota did?
Speaker 3: I mean every nas reed. Obviously being able to insert
Speaker 3: himself towards the end of the game. I think that
Speaker 3: made the difference in it. Ant Man not having the
Speaker 3: game that he's had the past previous games. Obviously he's
Speaker 3: been on fire, he's been hot, but he was efficient enough.
Speaker 3: I think he was nine for nineteen. He had twenty
Speaker 3: one points, if I'm not mistaken. Outside of that, it
Speaker 3: looked they look good. They look good, and obviously the
Speaker 3: god damn Nuggets didn't help himselves, turning the ball over
Speaker 3: and missing some opportunities and chances to score and vital
Speaker 3: moments that could have changed the outcome of the game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't really get the contribution they needed from
Speaker 1: Cam Johnson, and that I think he was all for
Speaker 1: Yoke is gonna be yoke. I think he's what thirty five,
Speaker 1: fourteen to nine. Jamal Murray came on strong. I agree
Speaker 1: with you. The turnovers late definitely didn't help their cause.
Speaker 1: But they're gonna have to do a better job because
Speaker 1: they were terrible when Yolk was off the floor today.
Speaker 2: They can't give up.
Speaker 1: That kind And I think there were minus fifteen, minus
Speaker 1: sixteen or seventeen when Yolk was on the floor, and
Speaker 1: he played a lot more minutes than I'm sure Adaman
Speaker 1: wanted him to play in this ball game. And it
Speaker 1: seemed like every time he went out, which he only
Speaker 1: went out he played. What he does is that he
Speaker 1: normally plays the entire first quarter, and then they try
Speaker 1: to give him somewhere six to eight minutes in the
Speaker 1: second quarter, and then played the entire third quarter, obviously
Speaker 1: the coming out of the half, and then try to
Speaker 1: give him a big break in the fourth. But they
Speaker 1: had to bring him back a lot sooner than they
Speaker 1: wanted to because the game started to slip away. But
Speaker 1: give the team Wolves a lot of credit because every
Speaker 1: time the Nuggets made a run, they quelled it. Somebody
Speaker 1: hit a big three. Deevin Tenzo played unbelievable. They especially
Speaker 1: in the first half with those four to three pointers.
Speaker 1: Nas Red picked it up. Nasree picked it up in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, hit a big three in and out
Speaker 1: out and end did some great jobs. They did a
Speaker 1: great job of rebounding the basketball. They just got to
Speaker 1: do a better job because I thought, you know, to
Speaker 1: start the game the way the Nuggets started up, I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: they might sweep this series yet. And the next thing,
Speaker 1: you know, here come the Nuggets, Here comes man Deevinceinzo,
Speaker 1: all those guys making contributions, and they ended up winning
Speaker 1: this game. But it's gonna be Look, I think for me,
Speaker 1: the class of the Western Conference is ok see. Still,
Speaker 1: they got Shay back, and he comes back. They played
Speaker 1: the Nuggets in his first game back, he drops I
Speaker 1: think thirty five, and he didn't play in overtime. He he
Speaker 1: didn't play late in the ball game because they didn't
Speaker 1: want him to over extend himself in the ball game.
Speaker 1: They want to gradually build him back up. And thankfully
Speaker 1: they didn't need him because I know that was really
Speaker 1: tough to watch a game of that magnitude. And now
Speaker 1: they've already given you a minute restriction said we're not
Speaker 1: gonna play with this. I don't care what the circumstance
Speaker 1: called for. Even though it was a close ball game
Speaker 1: late in the ball game and they could have definitely
Speaker 1: used him. They've guys were Crucio did a great job
Speaker 1: down to stretch, but looking at this ball game, we Joe,
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to find a way. This is why
Speaker 1: they made they got rid of MP Michael Porter Junior
Speaker 1: because the filming situations like this, And maybe he's he
Speaker 1: wasn't a good fit because you look at what he's
Speaker 1: doing with the nest. He's a guy that can legitimately
Speaker 1: be a one or two scorer, yes, but he was
Speaker 1: always he was never gonna be anything more than the
Speaker 1: third score here because you got Yoke and you got murried.
Speaker 1: So Cam Johnson is gonna have to be He's more
Speaker 1: equipped than that in his mindset, is more equipped to
Speaker 1: be a third option because pretty much that's what he's
Speaker 1: always been. And in that situation, I just think he
Speaker 1: has to be better. He hadn't been good in a
Speaker 1: couple of games. In order for them to get to
Speaker 1: where they need to be, he's gonna have to be
Speaker 1: that third piece. Bruce Brown does what Bruce Brown does.
Speaker 1: I like what Kristen Brown h Brown does, but wasn't
Speaker 1: enough today the given Minnesota credit, Minnesota played the heck
Speaker 1: of a ball game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Minnesota, Minnesota played the heck of a
Speaker 3: ball game. But but for me and I think about mentality.
Speaker 3: I think about confidence, especially when it comes to any sport.
Speaker 3: Right now, the specific topic is is basketball, and for
Speaker 3: Cam Johnson, I think he needs to insert himself a
Speaker 3: little bit more. I understand that there's a pecking order
Speaker 3: when it comes to shots selection and who has a
Speaker 3: green light to take as many shots as they want to.
Speaker 3: But I think players like Cam Johnson in that role
Speaker 3: of when Yoka is not doing well, when Murray's not
Speaker 3: doing well, I need to insert myself into the game.
Speaker 2: How do I do that?
Speaker 3: I already already need to be in rhythm. I need
Speaker 3: to have some type of some type of confidence about
Speaker 3: my game where I don't feel scared or I don't
Speaker 3: feel nervous or a gunshot to take certain shots. And
Speaker 3: there's only one way to do that is being able
Speaker 3: to get yourself in rhythm and find ways to insert
Speaker 3: yourself into the game even when it doesn't call for
Speaker 3: you to do so.
Speaker 2: And I think if.
Speaker 3: He's able to do that late in ball games, in
Speaker 3: situations like this, then he'll be able to insert himself
Speaker 3: and feel okay about taking certain shots where it means
Speaker 3: much more as opposed to the first three quarters in
Speaker 3: the game, where it matters between wins and losses.
Speaker 1: Well, I think the biggest thing you mentioned confidence is
Speaker 1: that getting into a rhythm early, it's hard to miss
Speaker 1: all those shots. And then because because you know, shoot
Speaker 1: or shoot, but the confidence goes a long way. And
Speaker 1: because he struggled the last couple of games he was
Speaker 1: over the day, scored zero points. And I'm looking at Yoke,
Speaker 1: Yoke with fifteen or twenty six, one or four from three,
Speaker 1: but he was thirty five, thirteen and nine. You look
Speaker 1: at Jamal Murray twenty five and wasn't efficient at all.
Speaker 1: He was nine of twenty two, two or six. Christian
Speaker 1: Brown was fifteen points. He played really well. Uh Strawther
Speaker 1: gave him only two points. You got so you got
Speaker 1: two of your starter as Oh Joe gave you two
Speaker 1: points at two points and they played a combined forty minutes.
Speaker 2: You can't have that. Uh, Valanchoona's two points.
Speaker 1: Hardaway Junior played well, he was five or six, three
Speaker 1: or four from the three. Bruce Brown six points in
Speaker 1: thirty four minutes. But they just gotta fight. They gotta fight.
Speaker 1: They gotta fight a third option because you know exactly
Speaker 1: what you're gonna get from Yoke and sometimes he peeps
Speaker 1: just gonna thatfica. See, look, we can't stop this man.
Speaker 1: Yoke's go get somewhere between thirty and forty. He's gonna
Speaker 1: get somewhere between twelve and seventeen rebounds, and he's gonna
Speaker 1: get somewhere between eight and twelve assists. We just can't
Speaker 1: let him get forty twenty twenty. That's what we gotta stop.
Speaker 1: So we're not gonna stop him from getting those you know,
Speaker 1: twenty eight twenty nine thirty points. He's gonna get that,
Speaker 1: he's gonna get three rebounds. We've just got to control
Speaker 1: him getting those fifteen eighteen twenty assists because he's getting
Speaker 1: his points and he's getting other people involved. Once he
Speaker 1: starts getting other people involved, now what do we do
Speaker 1: Because we can't leave anybody. There's nobody that's gonna be
Speaker 1: able to deal with him one on one. So you
Speaker 1: try to make it as difficult as you possibly can,
Speaker 1: and maybe you let him go one on one and says, look,
Speaker 1: i'd rather give him what the Clippers tried that and
Speaker 1: then he ends up getting fifty six and thirteen and seventeen,
Speaker 1: but I can't let him get fifteen assists. Oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: I can't let him get eighteen twenty assists because he's
Speaker 1: gonna have somewhere between twenty and thirty points. He might
Speaker 1: even get thirty five forty. So now he has forty
Speaker 1: and he's contributed because of those fifteen to twenty or six,
Speaker 1: you know, at least seven of them on three pointers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you can't have that. But they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: find a consistent third option. Cam Johnson's been in these
Speaker 1: moments before. He won a championship. If I'm not mistaken
Speaker 1: with the no he's on that team to end up
Speaker 1: losing to Milwaukee. But he's been in he's been in
Speaker 1: pressure situations before, and he's just gonna have to come
Speaker 1: through because right now he's not playing well and I
Speaker 1: don't know what happened. I think he did have an injury,
Speaker 1: O Joe, So I think he might be coming back
Speaker 1: from an injury. But that look, they don't do excuses
Speaker 1: in pro sports. Now you don't. Either you do or
Speaker 1: you don't, and right now he's not doing. Go ahead,
Speaker 1: what do you want to add?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: I forgot and Drew randalm Drew Randall played an unbelievable game.
Speaker 1: Now he didn't have twenty five thirty points, But I
Speaker 1: thought the fourteen ninety seven that he did have came
Speaker 1: out at a very opportunity time and it did a
Speaker 1: great job on the glass. But I thought jew, I
Speaker 1: thought all the auxiliary pieces, look, they're more and McDaniel
Speaker 1: played well, they're more than.
Speaker 2: Just ant Man.
Speaker 1: I know aunt Man gifts a lot of the pub
Speaker 1: and rightfully so, because he's electric. He's a dynamic score.
Speaker 1: There's nothing he can't do. He can block a shot
Speaker 1: to save a game, he can hit a clutch three
Speaker 1: to win the game. He can play outstanding defense when
Speaker 1: he wants to sit in the chair and guard. But
Speaker 1: he's a consistent player, and we know what he is.
Speaker 1: He's a superstar. But when you get contribution from Randal, you,
Speaker 1: McDaniel and Devincenzo and all those guys starting to jump
Speaker 1: in now, it makes them difficult. You know, Rudy Gobert
Speaker 1: was Rudy Gobert. He gave you six, eight points, fifteen rebounds,
Speaker 1: and so that's what he's going to do. But I thought, overall,
Speaker 1: I thought Minnesota going on the road, the end of
Speaker 1: this road trip, Yeah, going to Denver, and that's a
Speaker 1: very that's not an easy place then. Plus they had
Speaker 1: been the Nuggets had been playing well, even though they
Speaker 1: lost a tough game the other night to Okay see see.
Speaker 1: But when you deal it, when you're dealing with Yoke
Speaker 1: and Murray, and we know what those two guys represent.
Speaker 1: They're a goodest duo that we have in this league.
Speaker 1: They can put you in the pick and roll. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Yo can hit the three, he can roll, he can
Speaker 1: hit the mid range. Jamal Murray's insactiony' seeing pok on
Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert. So he's sensational. He could hit the three.
Speaker 1: He could in and out you. So but I was,
Speaker 1: I was. I was surprised how well Minnesota withstood everything
Speaker 1: that they had going on special in the first quarter
Speaker 1: to withstand that, because I'm looking at it and they
Speaker 1: had like a twelve point lead, and then they cut
Speaker 1: it down to like five and a half and they think,
Speaker 1: I know, the t Wolves up seven.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, damn, that was quick and it didn't.
Speaker 1: Take a whole lot of effort. But we'll see how
Speaker 1: this thing play out. I think they got about twenty
Speaker 1: games left o Hoe in the season. And when you
Speaker 1: got the kind of closeness between three and six. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you want to stay in the sixth spot because you
Speaker 1: don't want to go into the play in so you
Speaker 1: want to try to maintain where you are.
Speaker 2: You want to stay because right now.
Speaker 1: The Lakers are in the sixth spot, and so you
Speaker 1: got the seven eight, seven, eight, nine ten or in
Speaker 1: the play in tournament. You don't want to get into
Speaker 1: the playing tournament. You don't want to play. You you
Speaker 1: want to play as few games as possible, and playing
Speaker 1: those you know, obviously, whether it's seven, seven plays ten,
Speaker 1: eight plays nine, so obviously seven wins, they're in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: whoever wins the seven ten matchup is in, and then
Speaker 1: situation like that, and then the losers play each other
Speaker 1: for the chest to be out fointish up to eight seed.
Speaker 1: So you got OKC, that's forty seven and fifteen, you
Speaker 1: got the Spurs or forty three and seventeen they lost,
Speaker 1: got blown out. Today the Rockets are thirty seven and
Speaker 1: twenty two. The Nuggets are thirty eight and twenty three.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, no, The timber Wolves are thirty eight to
Speaker 1: twenty three. The Nuggets are thirty seven and twenty four.
Speaker 1: The Lakers are thirty five and twenty four, Phoenix is
Speaker 1: thirty four and twenty six. Golden State's in the eighth spot,
Speaker 1: and it's reported that Steph Curry is going to be
Speaker 1: out another at least at least five games, and I
Speaker 1: don't know where they get offense without Steph Curry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Portland is in a ninth spot at twenty nine and
Speaker 1: thirty three, and the Clippers fading obviously, you know they're
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. And Kawhi louted as much. He said,
Speaker 1: I think this season is already over. Uh, they're twenty
Speaker 1: seven and thirty one, So that's where that's where they
Speaker 1: are right now.
Speaker 2: So that's the rankings.
Speaker 3: I mean, go ahead right right now with the rankers
Speaker 3: where they are right now, where we are in basketball
Speaker 3: season with twenty games left. I mean, based on your
Speaker 3: expertise and watching the game and your knowledge of the
Speaker 3: game over time, if you were to take your picks
Speaker 3: now for coming out the East and coming out the
Speaker 3: West playing in the finals, who would you have to
Speaker 3: this point right now unless some team just comes out
Speaker 3: of nowhere and does some extraordinary you know, the last
Speaker 3: twenty games and shocks everybody.
Speaker 1: I think Okay s would really love somebody to knock
Speaker 1: off San Antonio because.
Speaker 2: They don't have to deal with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't have to deal with Winby and those guys.
Speaker 1: That's the team that causes okay See the most problem.
Speaker 1: Me personally, I think it's probably gonna be San Antonio
Speaker 1: in okay See in the Western Conference finals.
Speaker 2: But you never know.
Speaker 1: Because ant man At has been there and done that before,
Speaker 1: so he knows, he knows how to rise to the occasion.
Speaker 2: Nuggets have won a championship before.
Speaker 1: I just think the Rockets, I'm surprised the Rockets did
Speaker 1: not get a point guard.
Speaker 2: Chris Paul was there, and maybe they.
Speaker 1: Don't want to didn't want to deal with Chris Paul
Speaker 1: And I don't know what that issue is. But they
Speaker 1: need a point guard and they don't have a point guard.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the biggest thing, that's the biggest
Speaker 1: hindrance to them. Phoenix, Okay book is out, Dylan Brooks
Speaker 1: has a broken hand. How soon can those guys get back.
Speaker 1: Do I think even with those guys back, they can
Speaker 1: contend in the West?
Speaker 2: I do not.
Speaker 1: I do not think they have enough firepower to contend.
Speaker 1: The Lakers don't play good enough defense. To contend. We
Speaker 1: saw last night Austin Reeves get blown by Aydon.
Speaker 2: I I don't know. I just don't know about him.
Speaker 1: I just don't know, really, all things being equal to
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I think there's four teams seriously that
Speaker 1: could end up in the Western Conference Final. That's Denver, Minnesota,
Speaker 1: San Antoni, in Okac. Those are my teams that I
Speaker 1: think can make it to the Western Conference Final. Went realistically, realistically, right,
Speaker 1: You you make me put some money into something that
Speaker 1: matters to me, and if it's my money, it matters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I probably I'd probably picked Okac.
Speaker 3: I probably pick the double back again and win a championship.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep.
Speaker 1: The next the Knicks snapped the spurs eleven game winning
Speaker 1: streak with a blowout one fourteen to eighty nine. Michal
Speaker 1: Bridges had twenty five, Jaylen Brunton had twenty four. The
Speaker 1: Spurs couldn't overcome twenty two turnals that led to twenty
Speaker 1: four points and they were out rebounded fifty four to
Speaker 1: forty one. Something that they're really they're not because of Winby.
Speaker 1: Winby played well, but you know, they went on the run.
Speaker 1: I think the Knicks went on a twenty a run
Speaker 1: outscored in twenty two. Oh and they could never get
Speaker 1: back in the game after that. They never could. Uh,
Speaker 1: but they played. Look you got Miselle, Michel Bridges and Alvarado.
Speaker 1: He comes in the game and he's a spark plug.
Speaker 1: And you knew he would be that type of guy
Speaker 1: that the Knicks crowd would love because he plays with
Speaker 1: a lot of energy. They like that, a lot of hustle,
Speaker 1: a lot of grid.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: He's gonna make a big shot. He's gonna, you know,
Speaker 1: get to get you a couple of turnovers. He's gonna feed,
Speaker 1: you know, get the crowd energized. I'm not surprised that
Speaker 1: the nick on bas love him as much as they
Speaker 1: love him.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to pull up this Uh.
Speaker 5: No, this game. Uh scores here mm hm hm where
Speaker 5: is it that? Oh?
Speaker 2: Here it is? Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh Champagny three points Wemby was twenty was twenty five
Speaker 1: and thirteen. Uh but they shot terrible from the three
Speaker 1: nine of thirty four twenty what's that twenty six percent
Speaker 1: forty two percent from the floor.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: And as matter of fact that they only had eighty
Speaker 2: nine points.
Speaker 1: Lets you know, but they had og had twelve, called
Speaker 1: Kat had twelve, Josh Hart almost had a triple double.
Speaker 2: He had ten.
Speaker 1: Michal Bridges had twenty five brothers and they had twenty four.
Speaker 1: De Warry had fourteen. But they got overall.
Speaker 2: Contribution and look from everybody.
Speaker 1: Yes they did. And like I said, and you know,
Speaker 1: the Knicks want to play, you know, want to play.
Speaker 1: They got Michail Bridges who's a wing defender. They got
Speaker 1: Josh Hart who can defend. They got oj ca at defend.
Speaker 1: Mitchell Robinson comes in and he can bang and he
Speaker 1: can defend. But they do a great job. They do
Speaker 1: a great job of kid creating chaos and turning turnovers
Speaker 1: into points. And that was really the difference in the
Speaker 1: ball game. They they just kept turning the Spurs over.
Speaker 1: The Spurs couldn't protect the ball, and they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to do a better job of that. Look, they had
Speaker 1: won eleven games, had been playing really really well, and
Speaker 1: to play at the level. I don't think they we're
Speaker 1: gonna go undefeated heading into the postseason, but I think
Speaker 1: they're you know, I think the coaches pleased with the
Speaker 1: way they played thus far. But today was just one
Speaker 1: of those games. A nationally televised game. It's an early game.
Speaker 1: They don't normally play that early Oho, but give those guys,
Speaker 1: give those guys credit.
Speaker 2: They played.
Speaker 1: The Knicks played an unbelievable game today and they got
Speaker 1: the win and blow out fashion.
Speaker 3: And the Knicks needed this too, that they needed. They've
Speaker 3: been they've been played. They haven't been playing too well,
Speaker 3: especially as a group collectively. The way they played today
Speaker 3: is how they can play it. They can find some
Speaker 3: type of balance, you know, not too high and not
Speaker 3: too low, but finding an even way to play collectively
Speaker 3: as a group.
Speaker 2: The way they did today, they can. They can.
Speaker 3: They can make some hay and make some noise similar
Speaker 3: to what they did last year. I know I've been
Speaker 3: watching Steven that he's been upset with the Knicks the
Speaker 3: past few games and and what they've displayed out there
Speaker 3: as far as the product is on the court. But
Speaker 3: I mean shockingly to my to me, you know, knowing
Speaker 3: that the Spurs were playing the Knicks, I thought, obviously
Speaker 3: will run away with this game, and the Nick look
Speaker 3: completely different, you know, a completely different team.
Speaker 2: You know, Washington play today what.
Speaker 1: They swarm when when we have seven turnovers by himself
Speaker 1: of those twenty two. You can't turn the ball over
Speaker 1: like that because now you create, you get runouts, things
Speaker 1: of that nature. And like I said, the Knicks can
Speaker 1: cause you that type of problem if you turn the
Speaker 1: ball over, because they got really good defenders. O g
Speaker 1: can defend at the high level. We know Michal Bridges can,
Speaker 1: we know Josh Hart can. So they got guys that
Speaker 1: can clamp the ball and keep the ball in front
Speaker 1: of them.
Speaker 2: And so Mitchell Robinson comes.
Speaker 1: Obviously Cat is seven foot and he'll block a shot
Speaker 1: here or there, but that's not what Cat is known for.
Speaker 1: He's known for, you know, being a perimeter big that
Speaker 1: can shoot the ball extremely well. We know brunts and
Speaker 1: his brunts, and he's gonna get your buckets. He's gonna
Speaker 1: make clutch shots. He's as clutch as any player that
Speaker 1: we have in this league. So we know what he
Speaker 1: represents is that when they play defense like this, they
Speaker 1: make they force you into turnovers, and they make you
Speaker 1: shoot thirty twenty six percent from the three. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna beat them. And they double. You know, they've made
Speaker 1: seventeen threes, you made you May nine. So now they're
Speaker 1: out they twenty four. They're plus twenty four from the
Speaker 1: three point line. So if somebody's plus twenty four from
Speaker 1: the three point line and they force you into twenty
Speaker 1: two turnovers, this probably what's gonna be the outcome of
Speaker 1: the game. You're probably gonna get blown out. Yeah, It's
Speaker 1: it's really that simple. It's really that simple. And so
Speaker 1: give the next credit. I mean, I'm sure steven A
Speaker 1: is happy about this, happy but not satisfied, right because
Speaker 1: he knows they got to uphill struggle because Boston's played
Speaker 1: well Boston. Boston is playing extremely well. Toronto's putting that
Speaker 1: thing together. Toronto's better than people think. I watched them
Speaker 1: the other night. You know, Scotty Barnes and b I
Speaker 1: those guys. Those guys are playing are RJ Barrett. They
Speaker 1: got some scores over there. They're playing really well. Y'alla portal, portal,
Speaker 1: They're they're better than you think. Now do I think
Speaker 1: they can beat the Knicks in the seven?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 1: You know, when it's all saying done, it's probably gonna
Speaker 1: be Boston and and and probably the Knicks. Looking at
Speaker 1: how everything is kind of like shaping upbout you look
Speaker 1: like it's gonna be Boston in the Knicks. If I
Speaker 1: had to bet anything, I like Philly, but I just
Speaker 1: don't know if if in b and BID's gonna be
Speaker 1: healthy enough, Tyres Max is gonna be Tyree's Maxy, edgcumb
Speaker 1: is gonna do it, edgcamb things they probably you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if and when PG is coming back.
Speaker 2: But if I had it, he was like, Okay.
Speaker 1: Shannon, who do you if you I mean, who do
Speaker 1: you think is gonna be in the Eastern Conference Finals?
Speaker 1: I'd probably say Boston and uh Boston and the Knicks.
Speaker 1: And that's a that's an old rivalry that they had
Speaker 1: when it happened last year. I don't know if we'll
Speaker 1: ever get those those eighties rivalries that like it once was,
Speaker 1: but we'll see. We'll see. The Knicks played well today
Speaker 1: and they needed this ball game. They definitely needed this
Speaker 1: ball game more than the Spurs. The Spardan needed to
Speaker 1: try to keep place with OKC because the thing is,
Speaker 1: like all things being Nicolas like, I think they probably
Speaker 1: need the home court more than OKC because the type
Speaker 1: of ball the OKC play, it does travel. They got
Speaker 1: a lot of wings. They got five six guys that
Speaker 1: can defend an elite level Shay, you already know pencil
Speaker 1: Shade in for thirty. You just feel, you know he's
Speaker 1: gonna get there. Yeah, And so now you get a
Speaker 1: couple of those other guys that come along with him.
Speaker 1: You get Chat, you get j Doub, you get Wallace,
Speaker 1: you get some of those other guys, Isaiah, Joe, you
Speaker 1: get some of those other and Karusho he always shows
Speaker 1: up in big games. He's gonna make the right play.
Speaker 1: He's gonna create chaos, he's gonna create turnovers. He's gonna
Speaker 1: knock down a big three, He's gonna get a big,
Speaker 1: big steal. He knows what these moments meant mean, having
Speaker 1: played on that Lakers championship team and before that and
Speaker 1: last year. He was a big reason why they won
Speaker 1: the championship last year. Some guys just understand the moment
Speaker 1: and they can rise to the occasion in said moment,
Speaker 1: and carushow Is definitely is one of those guys. So, uh,
Speaker 1: the Spurs look leven straight games to get back in
Speaker 1: this thing, and they're the team that gives okay see
Speaker 1: the most trouble.
Speaker 2: But you never know the seven game series. You never know.
Speaker 1: An injury here or injury there and he lifts the series.
Speaker 1: The Calves showed their toughness today when they beat the
Speaker 1: next one O six to one.
Speaker 5: On two.
Speaker 1: James Harden scored twenty two points in his return and
Speaker 1: the lineup with a broken thumb. Kean Ellis also played
Speaker 1: with a fractionened finger today and still was able to
Speaker 1: put up five blocks and steets three steals. The Cavs
Speaker 1: got a defensive minutes at the trade deadline from the
Speaker 1: Sacramento Kings.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, the thing is that I think the it's.
Speaker 1: On this non non shooting hand James is left and
Speaker 1: I think it's his right thumb. Yeah, he played well
Speaker 1: today in his return. I think he had twenty two
Speaker 1: died in seven. I say something like that. The Bigs
Speaker 1: played played okay. I thought Evan Mobley played well. Uh
Speaker 1: you look at this. This this is grad I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys can see it. But Detroit forty
Speaker 1: five and fourteen, the one seed currently Boston forty and twenty,
Speaker 1: the two seed the Knicks of thirty nine and twenty two.
Speaker 2: The three seed the.
Speaker 1: Calves thirty eight and twenty four. The fourth seed Toronto
Speaker 1: thirty five and twenty five. To five seeds. So if
Speaker 1: the season end of the day, Cleveland would face Toronto,
Speaker 1: the Knicks will placed face to seventy six ers, Boston
Speaker 1: place the Magic, and Detroit, well, we'll play the whoever
Speaker 1: wins out of the seventh the seven ten matchup. But look,
Speaker 1: it's close, obviously, it's not as you know, what is
Speaker 1: three and six. Three and six is a bigger separation
Speaker 1: than what it is in the Western Conference because it's
Speaker 1: only two games separating three from six in the Western
Speaker 1: Conference and it's about six games separating five and a
Speaker 1: half separating three to six in the Eastern Conference. But Detroit,
Speaker 1: Detroit's looked, it looked well all year, they played really well.
Speaker 1: Uh they got an All NBA selection in uh kay Cunningham.
Speaker 1: I think during is gonna be an All NBA selection. Also,
Speaker 1: he might make the All Defensive team. Hell, k might
Speaker 1: make the All Defensive team because he's he's that good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The problem they're gonna have is that Dirty is gonna
Speaker 1: damn to get a max contract five years, over two
Speaker 1: hundred over two hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2: And it's better.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like football, oo cho, it's better to
Speaker 1: sign these guys earlier.
Speaker 2: Than late because they don't.
Speaker 1: And in basketball they don't give discounts and teams don't
Speaker 1: even ask them.
Speaker 2: In baseball, they don't give them no discounts.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody who with Darren justin, Hey, Jude, check this out, man,
Speaker 1: we try to put a team around you. Can you
Speaker 1: cut it? No, the on of the player, the players associated,
Speaker 1: you won't let you do it. Show hey, and you
Speaker 1: ain't cut no deal. The only deal that he cut
Speaker 1: is that he says, you know what, I'm nice, I'm nice,
Speaker 1: like boss, give me two million a year and then
Speaker 1: the other sixty eight. So he gets done. So he's
Speaker 1: only cost him to million dollars a year. That's why
Speaker 1: they're able to just stack players on top of players.
Speaker 1: You get a Bready Freeman, you get a Betts, the
Speaker 1: guy that just signed for sixty million a year. You
Speaker 1: get those kind of guys because you get guys taking
Speaker 1: deferred compensation. Now they'll do that, but it still keeps
Speaker 1: the market up here, right and so, but it's gonna
Speaker 1: be very very interesting.
Speaker 2: The NBA has kind of been quiet this year. Old show.
Speaker 1: What well Steph has been out because you can see
Speaker 1: the shifts coming.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, it's coming. The young guards coming, gonna
Speaker 2: move on.
Speaker 1: Steph is gonna move on, Katie's gonna move on, you know,
Speaker 1: and so things things is gonna be different. Things is
Speaker 1: gonna be different. The league is transitioned away from those guys,
Speaker 1: and that's okay. Uh, the Legal is in great hands.
Speaker 1: It moved on from Doctor j Larry and Magic. It
Speaker 1: moved on from Jordan, It moved on from Kobe and
Speaker 1: all those Shack and all those guys. The Legal be fine.
Speaker 1: The Legal continue to prosper and they'll be fine. U.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to hold I'm looking up trying to look
Speaker 1: up these stats right here.
Speaker 3: I think I mean the NBA obviously, the new guard
Speaker 3: that is coming in. Uh, they have a lot of excitement, obviously,
Speaker 3: players that that that can put busts in the seats
Speaker 3: that a lot of fans regards to what team you support,
Speaker 3: you look, you look forward to watching them, obviously, and man,
Speaker 3: you got you got Wimby. I'm not sure if you
Speaker 3: would put Zion in that due to the inconsistency of
Speaker 3: actually being healthy and actually.
Speaker 2: Playing, and Jo could have been in there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously in that conversation, John, I'm not sure what's
Speaker 3: going on with jo over Over?
Speaker 1: You got you got s g A, you got Man, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you got Yoke obviously. Yeah, we mentioned we
Speaker 1: got Bronson, JB j T is out. But the young guy,
Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of under thirty, under
Speaker 1: thirty guys that's the league is gonna that's gonna have
Speaker 1: to carry the league like those old guard like Magic
Speaker 1: and Bird and Doc and and and and and Jordan
Speaker 1: and then Kobe and Shaq and here come Lebron and
Speaker 1: Kad and Steph and all those guys hardened. It's gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, gonna move on also. But those guys, you know,
Speaker 1: go ahead.
Speaker 3: You know what's funny it is obviously with the new
Speaker 3: guard coming in and all the great names you just name,
Speaker 3: who the hell is the face of the NBA? Now,
Speaker 3: once that old guard moves on, who's the face?
Speaker 1: They don't have one and they won't ad man, but
Speaker 1: that man said no, let Winby do it. And man
Speaker 1: want to be a man, and you know, and man
Speaker 1: and man want to go you know, and man because
Speaker 1: there's a that's pressure that comes along with that. You know,
Speaker 1: you're image and everything and where you're going. How you
Speaker 1: can like that and answer, No, that ain't dam because
Speaker 1: I ain't Fenna hold y'all. You know, I ain't really
Speaker 1: try to, you know, when I'm Atlanta, y'all, y'all see
Speaker 1: that that the collab is going on with Magic City
Speaker 1: and the Hawks. You know, I'm trying to be down now.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get on them. The Lemon Pepper wins.
Speaker 2: Hey, the collab is Mars sixteen.
Speaker 3: We're going right, You and Joe going okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 3: Well me with me and Joe will tall you.
Speaker 2: We'll tell you about it. Yeah, we'll tell you about
Speaker 2: I might hit back.
Speaker 1: I might hit made and say, man, let me get
Speaker 1: where the hoodies and they gotta letter Hall Magic City
Speaker 1: collab hooded that side.
Speaker 2: I might take a look at that.
Speaker 1: But uh, right now, right now, oh Joe, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think they got to face of the league,
Speaker 1: and and and you know, uh, obviously, all things being equal,
Speaker 1: who they want to be the face of the league.
Speaker 1: That's not what he wants to be. And you know,
Speaker 1: you want somebody to embrace that. Guys used to break
Speaker 1: you know, Magic and Bird and Kobe and Jordan Lebron
Speaker 1: and staff. They embraced it, and there are guys that
Speaker 1: are willing to embrace it. But in the NBA is like, nah,
Speaker 1: we we don't kind of want you all to.
Speaker 2: Be the face. We won't. We want him, we want
Speaker 2: him to be the face, right right, right right.
Speaker 1: But I think eventually it might have to because it's
Speaker 1: becoming such an international game and some of yours players
Speaker 1: are international. If you probably had to take a pick
Speaker 1: your top five players in the NBA, maybe top seven
Speaker 1: or all international players, so that might be your face
Speaker 1: of your league.
Speaker 2: Uh, it might have to be someone that's not even
Speaker 2: from here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because if you look at if you look
Speaker 1: at it, I mean, if you look at baseball, it's
Speaker 1: one of two players, it's Aaron Judge of show hate.
Speaker 1: And if you take a poll, they're probably gonna say
Speaker 1: ninety percent say show hate.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But the MLB ojo has always had that. They've all
Speaker 1: had Dominicans, they've always had Cuban players, They've all always
Speaker 1: had players from you know those countries.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And so now in the Asian born players where it
Speaker 1: be uh Normo or Decie mat Sue each Yeah, they've
Speaker 1: also some Korean players, so they've always had that.
Speaker 2: Basically this shift that happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there were a few foreign born players, Like I said,
Speaker 1: I think I read somewhere it might have been nine
Speaker 1: players that was in the NBA in ninety two. And
Speaker 1: now you might have every team that play in the
Speaker 1: Olympics might have three four guys. You look at Canadians,
Speaker 1: damn in the Canadians, whole team is in the NBA.
Speaker 1: The Slovenian team have players in the NBA, the Serbian teams,
Speaker 1: joking team Greece. So it's a lot more so now
Speaker 1: it might be it might you might not have a
Speaker 1: choice but to have a Shade or a Yannis or
Speaker 1: you know one of those guys, you know, a yoke
Speaker 1: as the face. It is what it is. It is
Speaker 1: what it is. Because right now Kate is coming. I
Speaker 1: think he's a couple, I mean ant Man, but it's
Speaker 1: ant Man that has a charisma.
Speaker 2: He has the personal Yeah, he has the yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah he is, he is. He has a game to
Speaker 2: match o cho. Yeah. You have to want someone to
Speaker 2: want it. He has to want to be it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: You can't force it on him.
Speaker 3: And it comes too much, It comes with too much
Speaker 3: pressure because you have to conduct yourself a certain way,
Speaker 3: not only on the court as an example, but even
Speaker 3: off the court and at I mean, if you know
Speaker 3: aunt personally, that ain't that ain't happening. That definitely ain't happening.
Speaker 1: And you look at the quarterbacks, you look at them
Speaker 1: that that's been the face of the league. You know,
Speaker 1: you look at being Marino or Lway or Montana or
Speaker 1: Brady or Manning or my homes you see Josh Allen
Speaker 1: the way they kind of lead to that. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: josh'lla like, Man, I want to be the fact. Baby,
Speaker 1: we've been doing this thing. We've been day for like
Speaker 1: six months. You want to get married, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You want to get mad on yo? Do
Speaker 1: you see the quarterback that don't be wasting no time
Speaker 1: on yo?
Speaker 2: No? Quick?
Speaker 1: So we will see. I think, uh, there's some American
Speaker 1: players that's getting better. Like I said, Kay Cunningham is
Speaker 1: getting unbelieved. We got ant Man, we got j T,
Speaker 1: we got j J be j T would gladly, gladly
Speaker 1: accept that role. The problem that he's having that he's
Speaker 1: getting pushed from a teammate. Right, it's hard to be HOLDO.
Speaker 1: How are you the face of the league and you're
Speaker 1: not even the best player on your.
Speaker 2: Team or something. Some would say, not that.
Speaker 1: That's that's the point, right, right, And so you know
Speaker 1: normally with the guys the face of the NBA, you've.
Speaker 3: Got to be going out, yeah, on your team.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be it's gonna be very interesting in
Speaker 1: the next I think, Look, we do all this talk
Speaker 1: at all, we want to until twenty three for the
Speaker 1: Lakers league.
Speaker 2: He's still in, you think so still he's still in.
Speaker 2: He's still in, right, You.
Speaker 1: Look at his social media, you look at his engagement,
Speaker 1: you look at who moves the needle.
Speaker 2: Right, it ain't no question, no question understandable.
Speaker 1: Former Laka brons God wants Lebron James off the team.
Speaker 1: Scott said, I think he should be his last year here.
Speaker 1: I don't he don't have to go home, but you
Speaker 1: got to get the hell out of here.
Speaker 2: O Jo.
Speaker 1: Are you see Byron Scott publicly calling for Lebron's departure?
Speaker 3: That that wasn't ai Byron Scott really said that.
Speaker 2: You heard Bion Byron Scott really said that publicly. That's
Speaker 2: what he's saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you podcast, I mean that's that's crazy. And obviously
Speaker 3: maybe maybe I don't I doubt that Byron Scott would
Speaker 3: really feel that way, or maybe he actually does, because
Speaker 3: Lebron is not the same Lebron of old but but
Speaker 3: but but saying that he needs to leave LA and
Speaker 3: Luke would just be the only person there that that
Speaker 3: is somewhat consistently outside of Austin Reeves makes no damn sense.
Speaker 3: So why is Lebron being the one that's being called
Speaker 3: out from Byron Scott when all the other issues that
Speaker 3: even Ray Charles can see that they have going on
Speaker 3: with the Lakers right now.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think the thing is and I don't know when
Speaker 1: this started happened, that that that guys from an organization,
Speaker 1: great guys from an organization with all of a sudden
Speaker 1: call like guys that's currently within the organization. And maybe
Speaker 1: this is a Kobe thing. Lebron was never really accepted
Speaker 1: even though he really revitalized the Lakers organization. I don't
Speaker 1: care what anybody says. And I think the fans understand.
Speaker 1: They know that they know what what what the Lakers
Speaker 1: were Kobe last three years and when Kobe left, they
Speaker 1: know what the Lakers were I don't know what what
Speaker 1: what is this? What?
Speaker 2: What? What are we talking about?
Speaker 1: If Lebron doesn't come, the Lakers are not selling for
Speaker 1: a billion dollars. You're not You're not gonna be able
Speaker 1: to get Luca because you don't get a D. A
Speaker 1: D is not coming to LAM. It's just I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know what Lebron did to piss so many
Speaker 1: great players off.
Speaker 2: Oh he No, he didn't, No, he didn't.
Speaker 1: I get it, Oh Joe. In a lot of times,
Speaker 1: we talk about this on the show all the time.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe.
Speaker 1: These guys currently in the in the in the NFL
Speaker 1: get and things we didn't get. But I don't begrudge
Speaker 1: them because we got things in the nineties and two
Speaker 1: thousands that guys in the seventies and eighties didn't get. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got things in the seventies and eighties that guys
Speaker 1: in the fifties and sixties didn't get. It's this thing
Speaker 1: called evolution. The game grows, the game e bobs and
Speaker 1: people get more things. It's okay, But this notion that
Speaker 1: Lebron James is the only one that's ever had power
Speaker 1: within the organization. Do y'all realize that a man won
Speaker 1: a nationally win a championship and Magic had a fallen out,
Speaker 1: and he says they seither him or me, and doctor
Speaker 1: Buss fired the coach that won an NBA title. Ye,
Speaker 1: that happened, lam Bird did the same thing. It happens,
Speaker 1: but for some reason, anything that goes wrong, that is
Speaker 1: the reason why. That's what free agency was meant to do.
Speaker 1: So you mean to tell me you want free agency
Speaker 1: and then want guys to say if that was the case,
Speaker 1: what was freeedgency for?
Speaker 2: What was phregity for? O Joe?
Speaker 1: If guys not gonna move around? I get it. Teams trade, team,
Speaker 1: a trade a player like it's nothing. Don't perform, and
Speaker 1: what they do, even if you do perform, if they
Speaker 1: think they can get better, they'll move you.
Speaker 2: When now players say, you know what, I think, I'm gone.
Speaker 1: I think it's going about as far as it can. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But Lebron, there are been a lot of guys that's moved,
Speaker 1: but nobody has caught the criticism. And Lebron James has
Speaker 1: never asked for a trade. Every time Lebron James has
Speaker 1: moved O Joe, he's played his contract out. He played
Speaker 1: his contract out in Cleveland, he went to Miami. He
Speaker 1: played that four years out. He went back to Cleveland,
Speaker 1: he played that four years out, and he headed to
Speaker 1: l A. I just I just don't get it. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I've never You've never, I've never heard so
Speaker 1: many great players, championship winning players take shots at Lebron.
Speaker 3: It comes with the territory, he says at the top
Speaker 3: of the mountain. He's the great one, He's the chosen one.
Speaker 3: He's the one with the moniker, the king. So what
Speaker 3: do they do regardless of his accomplishments, regards of his accolades,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean you people, they argue that you're
Speaker 3: in Lebron debate. What's about the greatest basketball player of
Speaker 3: all time? So what happens when you're the greatest at
Speaker 3: what you do? Regardless of what you've done, even those
Speaker 3: that have played, you know, your sport, they're going to
Speaker 3: have something to say, whether it's good or bad, because
Speaker 3: what you've done is not enough to them, despite what
Speaker 3: we may think on the outside, despite what you may
Speaker 3: think and understanding how great Lebron is and what he's
Speaker 3: done for organizations to date, again.
Speaker 2: He moved the needle. So what's one way to move
Speaker 2: the needle.
Speaker 3: On a platform we want ies and viewers to listen.
Speaker 3: You talk about the one all the way at the top.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I think Lebron is smart enough to know Ojo.
Speaker 1: He knows there's nothing he could do to topple Kobe.
Speaker 1: That's not what he's just because I be just because
Speaker 1: I'm trying to achieve something. That doesn't mean I'm trying
Speaker 1: to take your statue down. Why can't we both regret?
Speaker 1: I think he understands that in Miami it's gonna be
Speaker 1: it's Wade County.
Speaker 2: He understood that.
Speaker 1: Do I believe Do I believe in Dwayne Wade knows
Speaker 1: that Lebron is a better player. Yes, but if you're
Speaker 1: my ask Miami Heat fan, they'll say d Wade right.
Speaker 1: So he knew, no matter what he did, he could
Speaker 1: not be winning US Championships to overcome Kobe, Magic, Kareem
Speaker 1: and Shock.
Speaker 2: That wasn't gonna happen.
Speaker 1: And I think he I don't think he's He was
Speaker 1: that naive, just like man, you know what, And I
Speaker 1: don't think he win it with that mindset. He did'n
Speaker 1: going with that mindset Kobe. Kobe came there as a
Speaker 1: seventeen year old kid and left as a fully grown
Speaker 1: married father of three four kids. Rest his soul and gig.
Speaker 1: That's what he did there, and that's okay. Same thing
Speaker 1: with Magic. Magic came there and never left. Magic was
Speaker 1: a twenty year old now mostly the other great player,
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously a shock. Uh spent four spent four years,
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, in Orlando. Kareem spent I think
Speaker 1: six years in Milwaukee. But you know, you look at
Speaker 1: James Worthy, you look at Jered Wes a lot, you know,
Speaker 1: and and and Elgin Baylor. Uh, those guys you know,
Speaker 1: spent their careers there. But I just I don't know
Speaker 1: what Lebron did to piss off so many people.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I believe I can, like I can like Travis Kelce
Speaker 1: without constantly taking shots at Gronk, constantly taking shots at
Speaker 1: at Gates or Gonzales.
Speaker 2: I believe I can do that.
Speaker 1: But it's almost like I wonder if he was, if
Speaker 1: he was anywhere else other than the Lakers. And I
Speaker 1: love be Scott. I used to see be Scott all
Speaker 1: the time. Gym we used to see the gym equinox
Speaker 1: and I used to see beat Scott all the time.
Speaker 1: We always talk and he's a great guy. But I
Speaker 1: wonder if Lebron wasn't on the Lakers, would he still
Speaker 1: feel his time for Lebron to leave?
Speaker 3: No, absolutely not, because I mean is his love for
Speaker 3: the Lakers. It'd be different because it's not on my team.
Speaker 1: Because when Kobe last year's do you hear anything about
Speaker 1: the Lakers?
Speaker 2: You know, damn well, nobody would dare say that.
Speaker 1: No, but no, I ain't talking about talking want Kobe
Speaker 1: to leave. But he wasn't even mentioned the Lakers. The Lakers,
Speaker 1: they have no chance. Ain't nobody talking about Lakers and
Speaker 1: a chance to contend for a title? Nobody mentioned that?
Speaker 1: And then when Kobe left, ain't nobody mentioned the Lakers
Speaker 1: to contending for a title. The mere fact that you
Speaker 1: even think it's possible is because Lord was a forty
Speaker 1: one year old to get to the championship. Let you
Speaker 1: know just how great this man is. Tell me the
Speaker 1: time in history another forty something year old has played
Speaker 1: and you know what a chance to get to the
Speaker 1: champ or they had a chance to contend for a TITANU.
Speaker 2: Outside of time leaving New Englan until God damn to
Speaker 2: the NBA. Okay, now, not Jordan, not Kobe. His longevity, yes,
Speaker 2: but look you got his reading for whatever it is.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, so I don't want
Speaker 1: to get into speculating. That was something said. I don't know.
Speaker 1: And I know be Scott loved his Lakers and if
Speaker 1: you played in this organization most especially he spent most
Speaker 1: of his years there. Yeah, m but be Scott, you
Speaker 1: know now, you know that there was a transition that
Speaker 1: when Kobe won the championship in ten, nine and ten,
Speaker 1: they didn't come close. They didn't come close, and nobody
Speaker 1: said the thing ain't Nobody said so eleven twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen,
Speaker 1: So eight years, nine years, the ain't.
Speaker 2: No like if they ain't come loos. Yeah, m hmm.
Speaker 1: And y'all had Kobe, So you had Kobe eleven twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixty,
Speaker 1: fifteen fifteen.
Speaker 3: Hey, well they ain't had nothing to go with him though. Hey,
Speaker 3: it was the main course with no sound.
Speaker 1: You don't need nothing because when le when Lebron didn't
Speaker 1: have nothing to go on to him, y'all to.
Speaker 2: Say, if he was great, he would win. That's what
Speaker 2: y'all did with Lebron.
Speaker 1: Now they did this when Lebron when you never did
Speaker 1: that with anybody else. Yeah, you didn't do that with
Speaker 1: like you see what you say, You see what you're saying.
Speaker 1: On yall?
Speaker 2: They done got you convinced of that?
Speaker 3: Oh No, I mean, I'm just being honest. I'm just
Speaker 3: being honest. I mean Kobe, Kobe's the main dish. There
Speaker 3: was no size to go with it. There wasn't no dessert,
Speaker 3: so the chance of winning was slimming none.
Speaker 2: Now do you so great?
Speaker 1: That's what you do. You don't need nobody who needed teammates?
Speaker 1: Show what y'all tell y'all be because every time I
Speaker 1: turn around, he couldn't win a championship without d Wade,
Speaker 1: he couldn't win a championship without Kyrie, He couldn't win
Speaker 1: a championship with I Anthony Davis. And you just told
Speaker 1: me Kobe ain't have nobody to go with it. Last
Speaker 1: I checked Shacks in the Hall of Fame. Last I
Speaker 1: checked piled the sault Is in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: Last I checked Scotty Pippot's in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: Tennis problems in the Hall of Fame. So in other words,
Speaker 1: what you're trying to tell me if that, no matter
Speaker 1: how great you are, you need a team made a.
Speaker 2: Two absolutely, okay, I'm just checking.
Speaker 3: I'm just you know, you got to have a two
Speaker 3: headed monster. If you got three, it'd make it even
Speaker 3: make it that it make it that that much easier
Speaker 3: if you got three. But thinking you're gonna get it done,
Speaker 3: but one man, you got four, you know, just four
Speaker 3: partners out there, just just going through the motion.
Speaker 2: It's not happening. Duncan not happening.
Speaker 1: Duncan had Manu, had Manu and Tony Parker and then
Speaker 1: the last one he had Kawhi.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, Hey, boy, Kawhi was crazy at uh with
Speaker 3: the Spurs.
Speaker 2: Boy oh after tim after Timmy left, what my goodness.
Speaker 1: He knew, he knew he had to take over more
Speaker 1: of a role. He had to take you know, he
Speaker 1: was perfectly tim play in the back seat. You know, Hey,
Speaker 1: I let all A, let Manu, let TP let Timmy.
Speaker 2: Popsy Noah, bro, there's time for you.
Speaker 1: He's like, Okay, I get you twenty five, twenty six
Speaker 1: a night and lock it down on the other end.
Speaker 2: But I'm surprised.
Speaker 1: I think the thing that's surprised it is that people say, Look,
Speaker 1: people might feel a certain way and might say things
Speaker 1: in private oyo that never get public air.
Speaker 2: But to say this publicly, I'm a little.
Speaker 3: Surprised, you know what, and you know, we don't know.
Speaker 3: Also what there might be things that go on behind
Speaker 3: closed doors. There might be things that are said that
Speaker 3: going behind closed doors that we don't know about. That
Speaker 3: also makes Byron Scott say something like this publicly that
Speaker 3: has nothing to do with anything that we know.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Here, Scott also seemed to take issue with Lebron saying
Speaker 1: today's games it's harder to play than in the eighties
Speaker 1: and nineties. The game is different. I want people and
Speaker 1: our fans to understand that playing eighty two games in
Speaker 1: the eighties and nineties is not the same as playing
Speaker 1: eighty two games in the twenty twenties. It's just not
Speaker 1: the way we played. The level of pace, the level
Speaker 1: of speed in which we're playing a different it's a different.
Speaker 2: Game now is a totally different game. It is. It is.
Speaker 1: When when when when? When Beast God played in the
Speaker 1: eighties and the nineties, they might have had two guys
Speaker 1: per team that can shoot the three. Now on the
Speaker 1: twelve man roster, they got ten guys that can shoot
Speaker 1: the three, and you have to guard them all.
Speaker 2: Bless you.
Speaker 1: Everybody is a vible option. There weren't no such thing
Speaker 1: as no stretch five, no stretch four.
Speaker 2: They have that.
Speaker 1: Now the pace is increased, Blessing. Yeah, the pace has increased,
Speaker 1: and you have to guard multiple every For the most part,
Speaker 1: every agains evolution.
Speaker 2: Guys are more skilled. The guys are skilled, yeah much better.
Speaker 1: You ain't have no Kevin Durants. You ain't have no
Speaker 1: damn whimpies. You didn't have that. You damn you ain't
Speaker 1: have no Steph courage.
Speaker 2: Lest you.
Speaker 1: It's okay, it's okay, it's uh. It's a different game now.
Speaker 1: The NBA is, the NBA is different that uh, the
Speaker 1: NFL is different. I mean the game is. It's become.
Speaker 1: The guys are doing, oh Joe, guys are doing more
Speaker 1: exotic coverages now than when when when you and I played.
Speaker 2: That's okay, it's okay to say that.
Speaker 1: That's not to diminish our era, that's not to enhance
Speaker 1: their era.
Speaker 2: It's just facts. You no more. The scouting departments have
Speaker 2: gotten better.
Speaker 1: You think you think scouting now back you think when
Speaker 1: they started scouting players, uh uh with Cleveland Browns when
Speaker 1: they first started. The thing is is that Paul Bryd's
Speaker 1: reported that Paul Brown the reason why they tied the
Speaker 1: forty O joe, because that's how far the punt went.
Speaker 1: So how fast could somebody get down there to gid you? Oh,
Speaker 1: the ball normally hung up there by four point five seconds, right,
Speaker 1: four point five seconds. You could run like that cause
Speaker 1: you're running pretty good. That Dallas Cowboys and Gil Brandt
Speaker 1: took it a step further because O joe. You know,
Speaker 1: they used to draft players and never work them out.
Speaker 1: They just look at the scouting thing, look at them
Speaker 1: and look at them in college. Weell you gonna play,
Speaker 1: So come on, we're gonna draft you first. We're gonna
Speaker 1: draft you the second round. We're gonna draft you the
Speaker 1: fifteenth round, the seventeenth round. Then the Cowboys take it
Speaker 1: a step further. Gil Brandt tex stramp the actually brain players.
Speaker 1: They put them through everything, hence a combine, a combined
Speaker 1: style workout. So you think, so, you think the way
Speaker 1: they started scouting players in the sixties is the same
Speaker 1: way these scout players. Now, they got these scouts on
Speaker 1: the road every day and weekend, every week, they find
Speaker 1: somewhere looking at players. They didn't do that in the sixties.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, they didn't even have a combine.
Speaker 1: They just drafted a guy based on what his college
Speaker 1: numbers were, how he looked at college, and they drafted him.
Speaker 2: So things change people, and it's okay, it is okay.
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that doesn't take away anything from the sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties,
Speaker 1: two thousand and so forth and on.
Speaker 2: It's just that's just the way it is. It is.
Speaker 1: It happens, and technology changes old choke. Look look at
Speaker 1: the cleves, look at the helmets, look at the basketball shoe.
Speaker 1: Look at the way they trained horses. That needs changed.
Speaker 1: I don't know why people can't see that evolution. It's
Speaker 1: gonna happen with your blessing or without not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, or they don't care when one or
Speaker 3: the other. They complain it. They're complaining about it anyway.
Speaker 3: Everything gets better over time.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: Tonight, Lebron moved into fifth place on the Lakers all
Speaker 1: time assist list, surpassing Michael Cooper. Magic is one Kobe
Speaker 1: is two, Jerry West is three, Storming Norman Nickson is four,
Speaker 1: Lebron is five, Cooper is six, Kareem is seven, elgend
Speaker 1: Baylor is eight. Excuse me, this is Lebron's eighth season
Speaker 1: with the Lakers. Obviously, we know Kobe spent twenty years
Speaker 1: their Magic. I think from seventy nine. I think Magic
Speaker 1: played about twelve years, Coop played. We know Kareem played
Speaker 1: I think thirteen fourteen years there. And I saw Lebron
Speaker 1: is the second Laker to make a thousand and threes,
Speaker 1: only behind Kobe. And obviously, you know Kobe played twenty
Speaker 1: season with that organization and was great, and Lebron is
Speaker 1: already second.
Speaker 2: Obviously, they shoot more.
Speaker 1: Threes now than they did back when Kobe got into
Speaker 1: the league. O Jo, how do you think Lebron would
Speaker 1: be remembered as a Laker? You think that he You
Speaker 1: think he gets his jersey retired. You think he gets
Speaker 1: a statue out front.
Speaker 2: You know what I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think he gets a statue off front, but
Speaker 3: I think he gets in jersey retired. I mean what
Speaker 3: he was able to do once he came to the
Speaker 3: Lakers and helping that franchise obviously win a ring, a
Speaker 3: ring that a lot of people put an asterisk behind
Speaker 3: because it was a bubble ring or whatever it may be.
Speaker 1: Because Lebron wanted somebody put no bubble behind it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I understand what you're saying. But people have
Speaker 3: to understand and and and and take whatever hate they
Speaker 3: may have for Lebron to understand and what he was
Speaker 3: able to do during his time during his tenure with
Speaker 3: the Lakers, with what he had to work with outside
Speaker 3: of that, I mean, being one of the greatest, arguably
Speaker 3: the greatest, the one or two basketball players who ever
Speaker 3: played this game, I think he should be ag knowledge
Speaker 3: in such a fashion, in such a way based on
Speaker 3: that alone, whether he gets a statue or not, but
Speaker 3: retiring to twenty three jersey for the Lakers, it would
Speaker 3: only be right, and not to do so, it'd be ridiculous.
Speaker 2: It'd be damn egregious.
Speaker 1: I mean, imagine, Oh Jo, just thinking about this, I
Speaker 1: want you to picture this. Tom Brady is one of
Speaker 1: the three greatest high school football players ever. Yes, he
Speaker 1: goes to college and he's one of the three greatest
Speaker 1: college football players ever.
Speaker 2: And the next big thing. And he comes to the NFL.
Speaker 1: Even as a great high school player and a great
Speaker 1: collegiate player, he's even better in the NFL. Well, that's
Speaker 1: what Lebron James was. Yes, he's one of the three
Speaker 1: great high school players ever. And whatever you may have
Speaker 1: thought he could have been, he superseded.
Speaker 3: That, exceeded it completely.
Speaker 2: He's exponentially.
Speaker 1: Nobody thought this man would be a fourth time league MVP.
Speaker 1: Go to ten NBA finals, win four of them, fourth finals, MVPs,
Speaker 1: what two to three All Star Game MVPs. He's the
Speaker 1: all time leading scorer, he's the fourth leading or sister.
Speaker 1: He's a top thirty rebounder.
Speaker 2: He the top.
Speaker 1: Fifteen or ten, A six guy, I mean a steals guy.
Speaker 1: Nobody thought that whatever you thought Lebron James can be
Speaker 1: based on what he was in high school. And they've
Speaker 1: been a lot of great high school players, right Lebron.
Speaker 2: O Joe.
Speaker 1: And his name hadn't come up on any crime blodder,
Speaker 1: he hadn't been a source of tabloid speculation.
Speaker 2: He's been squeaky squeaky clean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, most definitely, most definitely, And still people find fault. Well,
Speaker 4: he flops. All great players hunt calls, they do just
Speaker 4: like every time the quarterback gets hit, what does he do? O?
Speaker 2: Yo, look the flag.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just saw that man hit me. I know
Speaker 1: we're playing football, but he wasn't supposed to hit me.
Speaker 1: He wasn't supposed to hit me.
Speaker 5: Hit me.
Speaker 1: You know, he's supposed to lay me down. You know,
Speaker 1: ain't got no pillow. Hey, you got to go to
Speaker 1: the sideline and get him a pillow so he can
Speaker 1: throw me on the pillow.
Speaker 3: People always complain it just depends on who's doing the flopping.
Speaker 3: It always depends on who's doing the hunting. Then they
Speaker 3: turn a blind eye. Depends on who it is. That's
Speaker 3: all it is true.
Speaker 1: I agree with you though I don't think he gets
Speaker 1: a statue, but I do think I think they based
Speaker 1: on what he's done, you know, the All Star, the
Speaker 1: All Star games. I think so he's been the eight
Speaker 1: All Star, he's been, what he's been, he's gonna be.
Speaker 1: He was a seven time All NBA selection. So if
Speaker 1: you cut his career up in sevens, in sevens, or
Speaker 1: if you cut it up in eights, he's a Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame player. Every eight, every eight, he's a Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, And I know they're gonna miss him when
Speaker 2: he's gone. Let him tell it.
Speaker 3: The game will continue to go on. Yeah, it's gone,
Speaker 3: but it won't be anything like that. We won't see
Speaker 3: anything like this for a very long time, if ever,
Speaker 3: if ever.
Speaker 2: Again. No no no, no, no, no no no no no.
Speaker 1: A guy, a guy, a guy that played this long
Speaker 1: and to play play that great long.
Speaker 2: Yeah,