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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Minnesota, Minnesota played the heck of a

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Speaker 1: I think Okay s would really love somebody to knock

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Speaker 2: They don't have to deal with that.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna make a big shot. He's gonna, you know,

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Speaker 1: Josh Hart who can defend. They got oj ca at defend.

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Speaker 1: Mitchell Robinson comes in and he can bang and he

434
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Speaker 1: can defend. But they do a great job. They do

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Speaker 1: a great job of kid creating chaos and turning turnovers

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Speaker 1: into points. And that was really the difference in the

437
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Speaker 1: ball game. They they just kept turning the Spurs over.

438
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Speaker 1: The Spurs couldn't protect the ball, and they're gonna have

439
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Speaker 1: to do a better job of that. Look, they had

440
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Speaker 1: won eleven games, had been playing really really well, and

441
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Speaker 1: to play at the level. I don't think they we're

442
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Speaker 1: gonna go undefeated heading into the postseason, but I think

443
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Speaker 1: they're you know, I think the coaches pleased with the

444
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Speaker 1: way they played thus far. But today was just one

445
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Speaker 1: of those games. A nationally televised game. It's an early game.

446
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Speaker 1: They don't normally play that early Oho, but give those guys,

447
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Speaker 1: give those guys credit.

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Speaker 2: They played.

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Speaker 1: The Knicks played an unbelievable game today and they got

450
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Speaker 1: the win and blow out fashion.

451
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Speaker 3: And the Knicks needed this too, that they needed. They've

452
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Speaker 3: been they've been played. They haven't been playing too well,

453
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Speaker 3: especially as a group collectively. The way they played today

454
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Speaker 3: is how they can play it. They can find some

455
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Speaker 3: type of balance, you know, not too high and not

456
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Speaker 3: too low, but finding an even way to play collectively

457
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Speaker 3: as a group.

458
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Speaker 2: The way they did today, they can. They can.

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Speaker 3: They can make some hay and make some noise similar

460
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Speaker 3: to what they did last year. I know I've been

461
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Speaker 3: watching Steven that he's been upset with the Knicks the

462
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Speaker 3: past few games and and what they've displayed out there

463
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Speaker 3: as far as the product is on the court. But

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Speaker 3: I mean shockingly to my to me, you know, knowing

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Speaker 3: that the Spurs were playing the Knicks, I thought, obviously

466
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Speaker 3: will run away with this game, and the Nick look

467
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Speaker 3: completely different, you know, a completely different team.

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Speaker 2: You know, Washington play today what.

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Speaker 1: They swarm when when we have seven turnovers by himself

470
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Speaker 1: of those twenty two. You can't turn the ball over

471
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Speaker 1: like that because now you create, you get runouts, things

472
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Speaker 1: of that nature. And like I said, the Knicks can

473
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Speaker 1: cause you that type of problem if you turn the

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Speaker 1: ball over, because they got really good defenders. O g

475
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Speaker 1: can defend at the high level. We know Michal Bridges can,

476
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Speaker 1: we know Josh Hart can. So they got guys that

477
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Speaker 1: can clamp the ball and keep the ball in front

478
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Speaker 1: of them.

479
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Speaker 2: And so Mitchell Robinson comes.

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Speaker 1: Obviously Cat is seven foot and he'll block a shot

481
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Speaker 1: here or there, but that's not what Cat is known for.

482
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Speaker 1: He's known for, you know, being a perimeter big that

483
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Speaker 1: can shoot the ball extremely well. We know brunts and

484
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Speaker 1: his brunts, and he's gonna get your buckets. He's gonna

485
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Speaker 1: make clutch shots. He's as clutch as any player that

486
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Speaker 1: we have in this league. So we know what he

487
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Speaker 1: represents is that when they play defense like this, they

488
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Speaker 1: make they force you into turnovers, and they make you

489
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Speaker 1: shoot thirty twenty six percent from the three. You're not

490
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Speaker 1: gonna beat them. And they double. You know, they've made

491
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Speaker 1: seventeen threes, you made you May nine. So now they're

492
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Speaker 1: out they twenty four. They're plus twenty four from the

493
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Speaker 1: three point line. So if somebody's plus twenty four from

494
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Speaker 1: the three point line and they force you into twenty

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Speaker 1: two turnovers, this probably what's gonna be the outcome of

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Speaker 1: the game. You're probably gonna get blown out. Yeah, It's

497
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Speaker 1: it's really that simple. It's really that simple. And so

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Speaker 1: give the next credit. I mean, I'm sure steven A

499
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Speaker 1: is happy about this, happy but not satisfied, right because

500
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Speaker 1: he knows they got to uphill struggle because Boston's played

501
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Speaker 1: well Boston. Boston is playing extremely well. Toronto's putting that

502
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Speaker 1: thing together. Toronto's better than people think. I watched them

503
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Speaker 1: the other night. You know, Scotty Barnes and b I

504
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Speaker 1: those guys. Those guys are playing are RJ Barrett. They

505
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Speaker 1: got some scores over there. They're playing really well. Y'alla portal, portal,

506
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Speaker 1: They're they're better than you think. Now do I think

507
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Speaker 1: they can beat the Knicks in the seven?

508
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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 1: I don't.

510
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Speaker 2: I don't think.

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Speaker 1: You know, when it's all saying done, it's probably gonna

512
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Speaker 1: be Boston and and and probably the Knicks. Looking at

513
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Speaker 1: how everything is kind of like shaping upbout you look

514
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Speaker 1: like it's gonna be Boston in the Knicks. If I

515
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Speaker 1: had to bet anything, I like Philly, but I just

516
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Speaker 1: don't know if if in b and BID's gonna be

517
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Speaker 1: healthy enough, Tyres Max is gonna be Tyree's Maxy, edgcumb

518
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Speaker 1: is gonna do it, edgcamb things they probably you know,

519
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Speaker 1: I don't know if and when PG is coming back.

520
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Speaker 2: But if I had it, he was like, Okay.

521
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Speaker 1: Shannon, who do you if you I mean, who do

522
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Speaker 1: you think is gonna be in the Eastern Conference Finals?

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Speaker 1: I'd probably say Boston and uh Boston and the Knicks.

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Speaker 1: And that's a that's an old rivalry that they had

525
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Speaker 1: when it happened last year. I don't know if we'll

526
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Speaker 1: ever get those those eighties rivalries that like it once was,

527
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Speaker 1: but we'll see. We'll see. The Knicks played well today

528
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Speaker 1: and they needed this ball game. They definitely needed this

529
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Speaker 1: ball game more than the Spurs. The Spardan needed to

530
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Speaker 1: try to keep place with OKC because the thing is,

531
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Speaker 1: like all things being Nicolas like, I think they probably

532
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Speaker 1: need the home court more than OKC because the type

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Speaker 1: of ball the OKC play, it does travel. They got

534
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Speaker 1: a lot of wings. They got five six guys that

535
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Speaker 1: can defend an elite level Shay, you already know pencil

536
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Speaker 1: Shade in for thirty. You just feel, you know he's

537
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Speaker 1: gonna get there. Yeah, And so now you get a

538
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Speaker 1: couple of those other guys that come along with him.

539
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Speaker 1: You get Chat, you get j Doub, you get Wallace,

540
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Speaker 1: you get some of those other guys, Isaiah, Joe, you

541
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Speaker 1: get some of those other and Karusho he always shows

542
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Speaker 1: up in big games. He's gonna make the right play.

543
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Speaker 1: He's gonna create chaos, he's gonna create turnovers. He's gonna

544
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Speaker 1: knock down a big three, He's gonna get a big,

545
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Speaker 1: big steal. He knows what these moments meant mean, having

546
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Speaker 1: played on that Lakers championship team and before that and

547
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Speaker 1: last year. He was a big reason why they won

548
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Speaker 1: the championship last year. Some guys just understand the moment

549
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Speaker 1: and they can rise to the occasion in said moment,

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Speaker 1: and carushow Is definitely is one of those guys. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: the Spurs look leven straight games to get back in

552
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Speaker 1: this thing, and they're the team that gives okay see

553
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Speaker 1: the most trouble.

554
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Speaker 2: But you never know the seven game series. You never know.

555
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Speaker 1: An injury here or injury there and he lifts the series.

556
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Speaker 1: The Calves showed their toughness today when they beat the

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Speaker 1: next one O six to one.

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Speaker 5: On two.

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Speaker 1: James Harden scored twenty two points in his return and

560
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Speaker 1: the lineup with a broken thumb. Kean Ellis also played

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Speaker 1: with a fractionened finger today and still was able to

562
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Speaker 1: put up five blocks and steets three steals. The Cavs

563
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Speaker 1: got a defensive minutes at the trade deadline from the

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Speaker 1: Sacramento Kings.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, the thing is that I think the it's.

567
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Speaker 1: On this non non shooting hand James is left and

568
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Speaker 1: I think it's his right thumb. Yeah, he played well

569
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Speaker 1: today in his return. I think he had twenty two

570
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Speaker 1: died in seven. I say something like that. The Bigs

571
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Speaker 1: played played okay. I thought Evan Mobley played well. Uh

572
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Speaker 1: you look at this. This this is grad I don't

573
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Speaker 1: know if you guys can see it. But Detroit forty

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Speaker 1: five and fourteen, the one seed currently Boston forty and twenty,

575
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Speaker 1: the two seed the Knicks of thirty nine and twenty two.

576
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Speaker 2: The three seed the.

577
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Speaker 1: Calves thirty eight and twenty four. The fourth seed Toronto

578
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Speaker 1: thirty five and twenty five. To five seeds. So if

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Speaker 1: the season end of the day, Cleveland would face Toronto,

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Speaker 1: the Knicks will placed face to seventy six ers, Boston

581
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Speaker 1: place the Magic, and Detroit, well, we'll play the whoever

582
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Speaker 1: wins out of the seventh the seven ten matchup. But look,

583
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Speaker 1: it's close, obviously, it's not as you know, what is

584
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Speaker 1: three and six. Three and six is a bigger separation

585
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Speaker 1: than what it is in the Western Conference because it's

586
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Speaker 1: only two games separating three from six in the Western

587
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Speaker 1: Conference and it's about six games separating five and a

588
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Speaker 1: half separating three to six in the Eastern Conference. But Detroit,

589
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: Detroit's looked, it looked well all year, they played really well.

590
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Speaker 1: Uh they got an All NBA selection in uh kay Cunningham.

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Speaker 1: I think during is gonna be an All NBA selection. Also,

592
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Speaker 1: he might make the All Defensive team. Hell, k might

593
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Speaker 1: make the All Defensive team because he's he's that good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The problem they're gonna have is that Dirty is gonna

596
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Speaker 1: damn to get a max contract five years, over two

597
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Speaker 1: hundred over two hundred million dollars.

598
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Speaker 2: And it's better.

599
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Speaker 1: It's kind of like football, oo cho, it's better to

600
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Speaker 1: sign these guys earlier.

601
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 2: Than late because they don't.

602
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Speaker 1: And in basketball they don't give discounts and teams don't

603
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Speaker 1: even ask them.

604
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 2: In baseball, they don't give them no discounts.

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Speaker 1: Ain't nobody who with Darren justin, Hey, Jude, check this out, man,

606
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Speaker 1: we try to put a team around you. Can you

607
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: cut it? No, the on of the player, the players associated,

608
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Speaker 1: you won't let you do it. Show hey, and you

609
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: ain't cut no deal. The only deal that he cut

610
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Speaker 1: is that he says, you know what, I'm nice, I'm nice,

611
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Speaker 1: like boss, give me two million a year and then

612
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Speaker 1: the other sixty eight. So he gets done. So he's

613
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Speaker 1: only cost him to million dollars a year. That's why

614
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Speaker 1: they're able to just stack players on top of players.

615
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Speaker 1: You get a Bready Freeman, you get a Betts, the

616
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: guy that just signed for sixty million a year. You

617
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Speaker 1: get those kind of guys because you get guys taking

618
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: deferred compensation. Now they'll do that, but it still keeps

619
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Speaker 1: the market up here, right and so, but it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be very very interesting.

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Speaker 2: The NBA has kind of been quiet this year. Old show.

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Speaker 1: What well Steph has been out because you can see

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Speaker 1: the shifts coming.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, it's coming. The young guards coming, gonna

625
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Speaker 2: move on.

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Speaker 1: Steph is gonna move on, Katie's gonna move on, you know,

627
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Speaker 1: and so things things is gonna be different. Things is

628
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: gonna be different. The league is transitioned away from those guys,

629
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Speaker 1: and that's okay. Uh, the Legal is in great hands.

630
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: It moved on from Doctor j Larry and Magic. It

631
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Speaker 1: moved on from Jordan, It moved on from Kobe and

632
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Speaker 1: all those Shack and all those guys. The Legal be fine.

633
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Speaker 1: The Legal continue to prosper and they'll be fine. U.

634
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to hold I'm looking up trying to look

635
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Speaker 1: up these stats right here.

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Speaker 3: I think I mean the NBA obviously, the new guard

637
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Speaker 3: that is coming in. Uh, they have a lot of excitement, obviously,

638
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Speaker 3: players that that that can put busts in the seats

639
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Speaker 3: that a lot of fans regards to what team you support,

640
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Speaker 3: you look, you look forward to watching them, obviously, and man,

641
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Speaker 3: you got you got Wimby. I'm not sure if you

642
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Speaker 3: would put Zion in that due to the inconsistency of

643
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Speaker 3: actually being healthy and actually.

644
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Speaker 2: Playing, and Jo could have been in there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously in that conversation, John, I'm not sure what's

646
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Speaker 3: going on with jo over Over?

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Speaker 1: You got you got s g A, you got Man, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, you got Yoke obviously. Yeah, we mentioned we

649
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Speaker 1: got Bronson, JB j T is out. But the young guy,

650
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of under thirty, under

651
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: thirty guys that's the league is gonna that's gonna have

652
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: to carry the league like those old guard like Magic

653
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: and Bird and Doc and and and and and Jordan

654
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: and then Kobe and Shaq and here come Lebron and

655
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: Kad and Steph and all those guys hardened. It's gonna,

656
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: you know, gonna move on also. But those guys, you know,

657
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: go ahead.

658
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 3: You know what's funny it is obviously with the new

659
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 3: guard coming in and all the great names you just name,

660
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 3: who the hell is the face of the NBA? Now,

661
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 3: once that old guard moves on, who's the face?

662
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: They don't have one and they won't ad man, but

663
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: that man said no, let Winby do it. And man

664
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: want to be a man, and you know, and man

665
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: and man want to go you know, and man because

666
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: there's a that's pressure that comes along with that. You know,

667
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: you're image and everything and where you're going. How you

668
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: can like that and answer, No, that ain't dam because

669
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: I ain't Fenna hold y'all. You know, I ain't really

670
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: try to, you know, when I'm Atlanta, y'all, y'all see

671
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: that that the collab is going on with Magic City

672
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: and the Hawks. You know, I'm trying to be down now.

673
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get on them. The Lemon Pepper wins.

674
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 2: Hey, the collab is Mars sixteen.

675
00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: We're going right, You and Joe going okay, okay, okay,

676
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 3: Well me with me and Joe will tall you.

677
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: We'll tell you about it. Yeah, we'll tell you about

678
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: I might hit back.

679
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: I might hit made and say, man, let me get

680
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: where the hoodies and they gotta letter Hall Magic City

681
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: collab hooded that side.

682
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: I might take a look at that.

683
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: But uh, right now, right now, oh Joe, I don't think.

684
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: I don't think they got to face of the league,

685
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: and and and you know, uh, obviously, all things being equal,

686
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: who they want to be the face of the league.

687
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: That's not what he wants to be. And you know,

688
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: you want somebody to embrace that. Guys used to break

689
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: you know, Magic and Bird and Kobe and Jordan Lebron

690
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: and staff. They embraced it, and there are guys that

691
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: are willing to embrace it. But in the NBA is like, nah,

692
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: we we don't kind of want you all to.

693
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 2: Be the face. We won't. We want him, we want

694
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 2: him to be the face, right right, right right.

695
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: But I think eventually it might have to because it's

696
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: becoming such an international game and some of yours players

697
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: are international. If you probably had to take a pick

698
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: your top five players in the NBA, maybe top seven

699
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: or all international players, so that might be your face

700
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: of your league.

701
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 2: Uh, it might have to be someone that's not even

702
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: from here.

703
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because if you look at if you look

704
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: at it, I mean, if you look at baseball, it's

705
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: one of two players, it's Aaron Judge of show hate.

706
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: And if you take a poll, they're probably gonna say

707
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: ninety percent say show hate.

708
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

709
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,719
Speaker 1: But the MLB ojo has always had that. They've all

710
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: had Dominicans, they've always had Cuban players, They've all always

711
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: had players from you know those countries.

712
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

713
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: And so now in the Asian born players where it

714
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: be uh Normo or Decie mat Sue each Yeah, they've

715
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: also some Korean players, so they've always had that.

716
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: Basically this shift that happened.

717
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, there were a few foreign born players, Like I said,

718
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: I think I read somewhere it might have been nine

719
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: players that was in the NBA in ninety two. And

720
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: now you might have every team that play in the

721
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: Olympics might have three four guys. You look at Canadians,

722
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: damn in the Canadians, whole team is in the NBA.

723
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: The Slovenian team have players in the NBA, the Serbian teams,

724
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: joking team Greece. So it's a lot more so now

725
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: it might be it might you might not have a

726
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: choice but to have a Shade or a Yannis or

727
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: you know one of those guys, you know, a yoke

728
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: as the face. It is what it is. It is

729
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: what it is. Because right now Kate is coming. I

730
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: think he's a couple, I mean ant Man, but it's

731
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: ant Man that has a charisma.

732
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: He has the personal Yeah, he has the yeah yeah, yeah,

733
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 2: yeah he is, he is. He has a game to

734
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 2: match o cho. Yeah. You have to want someone to

735
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: want it. He has to want to be it. Yeah.

736
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 2: You can't force it on him.

737
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 3: And it comes too much, It comes with too much

738
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 3: pressure because you have to conduct yourself a certain way,

739
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 3: not only on the court as an example, but even

740
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 3: off the court and at I mean, if you know

741
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 3: aunt personally, that ain't that ain't happening. That definitely ain't happening.

742
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: And you look at the quarterbacks, you look at them

743
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: that that's been the face of the league. You know,

744
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: you look at being Marino or Lway or Montana or

745
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: Brady or Manning or my homes you see Josh Allen

746
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: the way they kind of lead to that. Yeah, you know,

747
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: josh'lla like, Man, I want to be the fact. Baby,

748
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: we've been doing this thing. We've been day for like

749
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: six months. You want to get married, you know what

750
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You want to get mad on yo? Do

751
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: you see the quarterback that don't be wasting no time

752
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: on yo?

753
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 2: No? Quick?

754
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: So we will see. I think, uh, there's some American

755
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: players that's getting better. Like I said, Kay Cunningham is

756
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: getting unbelieved. We got ant Man, we got j T,

757
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: we got j J be j T would gladly, gladly

758
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: accept that role. The problem that he's having that he's

759
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: getting pushed from a teammate. Right, it's hard to be HOLDO.

760
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: How are you the face of the league and you're

761
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: not even the best player on your.

762
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: Team or something. Some would say, not that.

763
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: That's that's the point, right, right, And so you know

764
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: normally with the guys the face of the NBA, you've.

765
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 3: Got to be going out, yeah, on your team.

766
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

767
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be it's gonna be very interesting in

768
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: the next I think, Look, we do all this talk

769
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: at all, we want to until twenty three for the

770
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 1: Lakers league.

771
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: He's still in, you think so still he's still in.

772
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 2: He's still in, right, You.

773
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: Look at his social media, you look at his engagement,

774
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 1: you look at who moves the needle.

775
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 2: Right, it ain't no question, no question understandable.

776
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: Former Laka brons God wants Lebron James off the team.

777
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 1: Scott said, I think he should be his last year here.

778
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: I don't he don't have to go home, but you

779
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: got to get the hell out of here.

780
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 2: O Jo.

781
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: Are you see Byron Scott publicly calling for Lebron's departure?

782
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 3: That that wasn't ai Byron Scott really said that.

783
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 2: You heard Bion Byron Scott really said that publicly. That's

784
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 2: what he's saying.

785
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, you podcast, I mean that's that's crazy. And obviously

786
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 3: maybe maybe I don't I doubt that Byron Scott would

787
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 3: really feel that way, or maybe he actually does, because

788
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 3: Lebron is not the same Lebron of old but but

789
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 3: but but saying that he needs to leave LA and

790
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 3: Luke would just be the only person there that that

791
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 3: is somewhat consistently outside of Austin Reeves makes no damn sense.

792
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 3: So why is Lebron being the one that's being called

793
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 3: out from Byron Scott when all the other issues that

794
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 3: even Ray Charles can see that they have going on

795
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 3: with the Lakers right now.

796
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: I don't know.

797
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: I think the thing is and I don't know when

798
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: this started happened, that that that guys from an organization,

799
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: great guys from an organization with all of a sudden

800
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 1: call like guys that's currently within the organization. And maybe

801
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: this is a Kobe thing. Lebron was never really accepted

802
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: even though he really revitalized the Lakers organization. I don't

803
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: care what anybody says. And I think the fans understand.

804
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: They know that they know what what what the Lakers

805
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: were Kobe last three years and when Kobe left, they

806
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: know what the Lakers were I don't know what what

807
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: what is this? What?

808
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 2: What? What are we talking about?

809
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: If Lebron doesn't come, the Lakers are not selling for

810
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: a billion dollars. You're not You're not gonna be able

811
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: to get Luca because you don't get a D. A

812
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 1: D is not coming to LAM. It's just I don't

813
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what Lebron did to piss so many

814
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: great players off.

815
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: Oh he No, he didn't, No, he didn't.

816
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: I get it, Oh Joe. In a lot of times,

817
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: we talk about this on the show all the time.

818
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 2: Oh Joe.

819
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: These guys currently in the in the in the NFL

820
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: get and things we didn't get. But I don't begrudge

821
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: them because we got things in the nineties and two

822
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: thousands that guys in the seventies and eighties didn't get. Yeah,

823
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: they got things in the seventies and eighties that guys

824
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: in the fifties and sixties didn't get. It's this thing

825
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: called evolution. The game grows, the game e bobs and

826
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: people get more things. It's okay, But this notion that

827
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: Lebron James is the only one that's ever had power

828
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: within the organization. Do y'all realize that a man won

829
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: a nationally win a championship and Magic had a fallen out,

830
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: and he says they seither him or me, and doctor

831
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: Buss fired the coach that won an NBA title. Ye,

832
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: that happened, lam Bird did the same thing. It happens,

833
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: but for some reason, anything that goes wrong, that is

834
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: the reason why. That's what free agency was meant to do.

835
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,720
Speaker 1: So you mean to tell me you want free agency

836
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: and then want guys to say if that was the case,

837
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: what was freeedgency for?

838
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 2: What was phregity for? O Joe?

839
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 1: If guys not gonna move around? I get it. Teams trade, team,

840
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: a trade a player like it's nothing. Don't perform, and

841
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: what they do, even if you do perform, if they

842
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: think they can get better, they'll move you.

843
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: When now players say, you know what, I think, I'm gone.

844
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: I think it's going about as far as it can. Yeah,

845
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 1: But Lebron, there are been a lot of guys that's moved,

846
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 1: but nobody has caught the criticism. And Lebron James has

847
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: never asked for a trade. Every time Lebron James has

848
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: moved O Joe, he's played his contract out. He played

849
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: his contract out in Cleveland, he went to Miami. He

850
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: played that four years out. He went back to Cleveland,

851
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: he played that four years out, and he headed to

852
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: l A. I just I just don't get it. I

853
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: don't know. I've never You've never, I've never heard so

854
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: many great players, championship winning players take shots at Lebron.

855
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 3: It comes with the territory, he says at the top

856
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 3: of the mountain. He's the great one, He's the chosen one.

857
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 3: He's the one with the moniker, the king. So what

858
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 3: do they do regardless of his accomplishments, regards of his accolades,

859
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 3: you know, I mean you people, they argue that you're

860
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 3: in Lebron debate. What's about the greatest basketball player of

861
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 3: all time? So what happens when you're the greatest at

862
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 3: what you do? Regardless of what you've done, even those

863
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 3: that have played, you know, your sport, they're going to

864
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 3: have something to say, whether it's good or bad, because

865
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 3: what you've done is not enough to them, despite what

866
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 3: we may think on the outside, despite what you may

867
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 3: think and understanding how great Lebron is and what he's

868
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 3: done for organizations to date, again.

869
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: He moved the needle. So what's one way to move

870
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: the needle.

871
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 3: On a platform we want ies and viewers to listen.

872
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 3: You talk about the one all the way at the top.

873
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

874
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: But I think Lebron is smart enough to know Ojo.

875
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: He knows there's nothing he could do to topple Kobe.

876
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: That's not what he's just because I be just because

877
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: I'm trying to achieve something. That doesn't mean I'm trying

878
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: to take your statue down. Why can't we both regret?

879
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: I think he understands that in Miami it's gonna be

880
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 1: it's Wade County.

881
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: He understood that.

882
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: Do I believe Do I believe in Dwayne Wade knows

883
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: that Lebron is a better player. Yes, but if you're

884
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: my ask Miami Heat fan, they'll say d Wade right.

885
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: So he knew, no matter what he did, he could

886
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: not be winning US Championships to overcome Kobe, Magic, Kareem

887
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: and Shock.

888
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: That wasn't gonna happen.

889
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: And I think he I don't think he's He was

890
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: that naive, just like man, you know what, And I

891
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: don't think he win it with that mindset. He did'n

892
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: going with that mindset Kobe. Kobe came there as a

893
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: seventeen year old kid and left as a fully grown

894
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: married father of three four kids. Rest his soul and gig.

895
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: That's what he did there, and that's okay. Same thing

896
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: with Magic. Magic came there and never left. Magic was

897
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: a twenty year old now mostly the other great player,

898
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously a shock. Uh spent four spent four years,

899
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, in Orlando. Kareem spent I think

900
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: six years in Milwaukee. But you know, you look at

901
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: James Worthy, you look at Jered Wes a lot, you know,

902
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: and and and Elgin Baylor. Uh, those guys you know,

903
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: spent their careers there. But I just I don't know

904
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: what Lebron did to piss off so many people.

905
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, Yeah.

906
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 1: I believe I can, like I can like Travis Kelce

907
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: without constantly taking shots at Gronk, constantly taking shots at

908
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: at Gates or Gonzales.

909
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 2: I believe I can do that.

910
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: But it's almost like I wonder if he was, if

911
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: he was anywhere else other than the Lakers. And I

912
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: love be Scott. I used to see be Scott all

913
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: the time. Gym we used to see the gym equinox

914
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: and I used to see beat Scott all the time.

915
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: We always talk and he's a great guy. But I

916
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: wonder if Lebron wasn't on the Lakers, would he still

917
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 1: feel his time for Lebron to leave?

918
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 3: No, absolutely not, because I mean is his love for

919
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 3: the Lakers. It'd be different because it's not on my team.

920
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 1: Because when Kobe last year's do you hear anything about

921
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: the Lakers?

922
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 2: You know, damn well, nobody would dare say that.

923
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: No, but no, I ain't talking about talking want Kobe

924
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: to leave. But he wasn't even mentioned the Lakers. The Lakers,

925
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: they have no chance. Ain't nobody talking about Lakers and

926
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 1: a chance to contend for a title? Nobody mentioned that?

927
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: And then when Kobe left, ain't nobody mentioned the Lakers

928
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: to contending for a title. The mere fact that you

929
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: even think it's possible is because Lord was a forty

930
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: one year old to get to the championship. Let you

931
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: know just how great this man is. Tell me the

932
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: time in history another forty something year old has played

933
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: and you know what a chance to get to the

934
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: champ or they had a chance to contend for a TITANU.

935
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: Outside of time leaving New Englan until God damn to

936
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: the NBA. Okay, now, not Jordan, not Kobe. His longevity, yes,

937
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 2: but look you got his reading for whatever it is.

938
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, so I don't want

939
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: to get into speculating. That was something said. I don't know.

940
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 1: And I know be Scott loved his Lakers and if

941
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: you played in this organization most especially he spent most

942
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: of his years there. Yeah, m but be Scott, you

943
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: know now, you know that there was a transition that

944
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: when Kobe won the championship in ten, nine and ten,

945
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: they didn't come close. They didn't come close, and nobody

946
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: said the thing ain't Nobody said so eleven twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen,

947
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: So eight years, nine years, the ain't.

948
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 2: No like if they ain't come loos. Yeah, m hmm.

949
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: And y'all had Kobe, So you had Kobe eleven twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixty,

950
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 1: fifteen fifteen.

951
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 3: Hey, well they ain't had nothing to go with him though. Hey,

952
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 3: it was the main course with no sound.

953
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: You don't need nothing because when le when Lebron didn't

954
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: have nothing to go on to him, y'all to.

955
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 2: Say, if he was great, he would win. That's what

956
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 2: y'all did with Lebron.

957
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: Now they did this when Lebron when you never did

958
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 1: that with anybody else. Yeah, you didn't do that with

959
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: like you see what you say, You see what you're saying.

960
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:32,919
Speaker 1: On yall?

961
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 2: They done got you convinced of that?

962
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 3: Oh No, I mean, I'm just being honest. I'm just

963
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 3: being honest. I mean Kobe, Kobe's the main dish. There

964
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 3: was no size to go with it. There wasn't no dessert,

965
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 3: so the chance of winning was slimming none.

966
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 2: Now do you so great?

967
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: That's what you do. You don't need nobody who needed teammates?

968
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: Show what y'all tell y'all be because every time I

969
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 1: turn around, he couldn't win a championship without d Wade,

970
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: he couldn't win a championship without Kyrie, He couldn't win

971
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: a championship with I Anthony Davis. And you just told

972
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 1: me Kobe ain't have nobody to go with it. Last

973
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: I checked Shacks in the Hall of Fame. Last I

974
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: checked piled the sault Is in the Hall of Fame.

975
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 1: Last I checked Scotty Pippot's in the Hall of Fame.

976
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: Tennis problems in the Hall of Fame. So in other words,

977
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: what you're trying to tell me if that, no matter

978
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: how great you are, you need a team made a.

979
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 2: Two absolutely, okay, I'm just checking.

980
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 3: I'm just you know, you got to have a two

981
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 3: headed monster. If you got three, it'd make it even

982
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 3: make it that it make it that that much easier

983
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 3: if you got three. But thinking you're gonna get it done,

984
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 3: but one man, you got four, you know, just four

985
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 3: partners out there, just just going through the motion.

986
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: It's not happening. Duncan not happening.

987
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: Duncan had Manu, had Manu and Tony Parker and then

988
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: the last one he had Kawhi.

989
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, Hey, boy, Kawhi was crazy at uh with

990
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 3: the Spurs.

991
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: Boy oh after tim after Timmy left, what my goodness.

992
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: He knew, he knew he had to take over more

993
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: of a role. He had to take you know, he

994
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 1: was perfectly tim play in the back seat. You know, Hey,

995
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: I let all A, let Manu, let TP let Timmy.

996
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: Popsy Noah, bro, there's time for you.

997
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: He's like, Okay, I get you twenty five, twenty six

998
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: a night and lock it down on the other end.

999
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 2: But I'm surprised.

1000
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: I think the thing that's surprised it is that people say, Look,

1001
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 1: people might feel a certain way and might say things

1002
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: in private oyo that never get public air.

1003
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 2: But to say this publicly, I'm a little.

1004
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 3: Surprised, you know what, and you know, we don't know.

1005
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 3: Also what there might be things that go on behind

1006
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 3: closed doors. There might be things that are said that

1007
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 3: going behind closed doors that we don't know about. That

1008
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 3: also makes Byron Scott say something like this publicly that

1009
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 3: has nothing to do with anything that we know.

1010
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 2: Okay.

1011
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: Here, Scott also seemed to take issue with Lebron saying

1012
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: today's games it's harder to play than in the eighties

1013
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: and nineties. The game is different. I want people and

1014
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: our fans to understand that playing eighty two games in

1015
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: the eighties and nineties is not the same as playing

1016
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: eighty two games in the twenty twenties. It's just not

1017
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: the way we played. The level of pace, the level

1018
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: of speed in which we're playing a different it's a different.

1019
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 2: Game now is a totally different game. It is. It is.

1020
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: When when when when? When Beast God played in the

1021
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: eighties and the nineties, they might have had two guys

1022
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: per team that can shoot the three. Now on the

1023
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: twelve man roster, they got ten guys that can shoot

1024
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: the three, and you have to guard them all.

1025
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: Bless you.

1026
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: Everybody is a vible option. There weren't no such thing

1027
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: as no stretch five, no stretch four.

1028
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 2: They have that.

1029
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: Now the pace is increased, Blessing. Yeah, the pace has increased,

1030
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 1: and you have to guard multiple every For the most part,

1031
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 1: every agains evolution.

1032
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,959
Speaker 2: Guys are more skilled. The guys are skilled, yeah much better.

1033
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: You ain't have no Kevin Durants. You ain't have no

1034
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: damn whimpies. You didn't have that. You damn you ain't

1035
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: have no Steph courage.

1036
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 2: Lest you.

1037
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: It's okay, it's okay, it's uh. It's a different game now.

1038
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 1: The NBA is, the NBA is different that uh, the

1039
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: NFL is different. I mean the game is. It's become.

1040
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: The guys are doing, oh Joe, guys are doing more

1041
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: exotic coverages now than when when when you and I played.

1042
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 2: That's okay, it's okay to say that.

1043
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: That's not to diminish our era, that's not to enhance

1044
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: their era.

1045
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 2: It's just facts. You no more. The scouting departments have

1046
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:48,720
Speaker 2: gotten better.

1047
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: You think you think scouting now back you think when

1048
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 1: they started scouting players, uh uh with Cleveland Browns when

1049
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: they first started. The thing is is that Paul Bryd's

1050
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: reported that Paul Brown the reason why they tied the

1051
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: forty O joe, because that's how far the punt went.

1052
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 1: So how fast could somebody get down there to gid you? Oh,

1053
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 1: the ball normally hung up there by four point five seconds, right,

1054
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: four point five seconds. You could run like that cause

1055
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: you're running pretty good. That Dallas Cowboys and Gil Brandt

1056
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: took it a step further because O joe. You know,

1057
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: they used to draft players and never work them out.

1058
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: They just look at the scouting thing, look at them

1059
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: and look at them in college. Weell you gonna play,

1060
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: So come on, we're gonna draft you first. We're gonna

1061
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: draft you the second round. We're gonna draft you the

1062
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: fifteenth round, the seventeenth round. Then the Cowboys take it

1063
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: a step further. Gil Brandt tex stramp the actually brain players.

1064
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: They put them through everything, hence a combine, a combined

1065
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: style workout. So you think, so, you think the way

1066
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: they started scouting players in the sixties is the same

1067
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: way these scout players. Now, they got these scouts on

1068
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: the road every day and weekend, every week, they find

1069
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 1: somewhere looking at players. They didn't do that in the sixties.

1070
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, they didn't even have a combine.

1071
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 1: They just drafted a guy based on what his college

1072
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,720
Speaker 1: numbers were, how he looked at college, and they drafted him.

1073
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 2: So things change people, and it's okay, it is okay.

1074
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that doesn't take away anything from the sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties,

1075
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: two thousand and so forth and on.

1076
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 2: It's just that's just the way it is. It is.

1077
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: It happens, and technology changes old choke. Look look at

1078
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: the cleves, look at the helmets, look at the basketball shoe.

1079
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: Look at the way they trained horses. That needs changed.

1080
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 1: I don't know why people can't see that evolution. It's

1081
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: gonna happen with your blessing or without not.

1082
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, or they don't care when one or

1083
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 3: the other. They complain it. They're complaining about it anyway.

1084
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:57,479
Speaker 3: Everything gets better over time.

1085
00:52:58,840 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 5: Uh.

1086
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 1: Tonight, Lebron moved into fifth place on the Lakers all

1087
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: time assist list, surpassing Michael Cooper. Magic is one Kobe

1088
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: is two, Jerry West is three, Storming Norman Nickson is four,

1089
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: Lebron is five, Cooper is six, Kareem is seven, elgend

1090
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: Baylor is eight. Excuse me, this is Lebron's eighth season

1091
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: with the Lakers. Obviously, we know Kobe spent twenty years

1092
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: their Magic. I think from seventy nine. I think Magic

1093
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: played about twelve years, Coop played. We know Kareem played

1094
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 1: I think thirteen fourteen years there. And I saw Lebron

1095
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: is the second Laker to make a thousand and threes,

1096
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 1: only behind Kobe. And obviously, you know Kobe played twenty

1097
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: season with that organization and was great, and Lebron is

1098
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: already second.

1099
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 2: Obviously, they shoot more.

1100
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: Threes now than they did back when Kobe got into

1101
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 1: the league. O Jo, how do you think Lebron would

1102
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: be remembered as a Laker? You think that he You

1103
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: think he gets his jersey retired. You think he gets

1104
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: a statue out front.

1105
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 2: You know what I don't.

1106
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 3: I don't think he gets a statue off front, but

1107
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 3: I think he gets in jersey retired. I mean what

1108
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 3: he was able to do once he came to the

1109
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 3: Lakers and helping that franchise obviously win a ring, a

1110
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 3: ring that a lot of people put an asterisk behind

1111
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 3: because it was a bubble ring or whatever it may be.

1112
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: Because Lebron wanted somebody put no bubble behind it.

1113
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I understand what you're saying. But people have

1114
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 3: to understand and and and and take whatever hate they

1115
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 3: may have for Lebron to understand and what he was

1116
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 3: able to do during his time during his tenure with

1117
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 3: the Lakers, with what he had to work with outside

1118
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 3: of that, I mean, being one of the greatest, arguably

1119
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 3: the greatest, the one or two basketball players who ever

1120
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 3: played this game, I think he should be ag knowledge

1121
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 3: in such a fashion, in such a way based on

1122
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 3: that alone, whether he gets a statue or not, but

1123
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 3: retiring to twenty three jersey for the Lakers, it would

1124
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 3: only be right, and not to do so, it'd be ridiculous.

1125
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 2: It'd be damn egregious.

1126
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: I mean, imagine, Oh Jo, just thinking about this, I

1127
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: want you to picture this. Tom Brady is one of

1128
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 1: the three greatest high school football players ever. Yes, he

1129
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: goes to college and he's one of the three greatest

1130
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: college football players ever.

1131
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 2: And the next big thing. And he comes to the NFL.

1132
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: Even as a great high school player and a great

1133
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: collegiate player, he's even better in the NFL. Well, that's

1134
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 1: what Lebron James was. Yes, he's one of the three

1135
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: great high school players ever. And whatever you may have

1136
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: thought he could have been, he superseded.

1137
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 3: That, exceeded it completely.

1138
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 2: He's exponentially.

1139
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: Nobody thought this man would be a fourth time league MVP.

1140
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 1: Go to ten NBA finals, win four of them, fourth finals, MVPs,

1141
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: what two to three All Star Game MVPs. He's the

1142
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: all time leading scorer, he's the fourth leading or sister.

1143
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: He's a top thirty rebounder.

1144
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 2: He the top.

1145
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: Fifteen or ten, A six guy, I mean a steals guy.

1146
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 1: Nobody thought that whatever you thought Lebron James can be

1147
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: based on what he was in high school. And they've

1148
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: been a lot of great high school players, right Lebron.

1149
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 2: O Joe.

1150
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: And his name hadn't come up on any crime blodder,

1151
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: he hadn't been a source of tabloid speculation.

1152
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 2: He's been squeaky squeaky clean.

1153
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, most definitely, most definitely, And still people find fault. Well,

1154
00:56:53,239 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 4: he flops. All great players hunt calls, they do just

1155
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 4: like every time the quarterback gets hit, what does he do? O?

1156
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 2: Yo, look the flag.

1157
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just saw that man hit me. I know

1158
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: we're playing football, but he wasn't supposed to hit me.

1159
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: He wasn't supposed to hit me.

1160
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 5: Hit me.

1161
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: You know, he's supposed to lay me down. You know,

1162
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: ain't got no pillow. Hey, you got to go to

1163
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: the sideline and get him a pillow so he can

1164
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: throw me on the pillow.

1165
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 3: People always complain it just depends on who's doing the flopping.

1166
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 3: It always depends on who's doing the hunting. Then they

1167
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 3: turn a blind eye. Depends on who it is. That's

1168
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 3: all it is true.

1169
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: I agree with you though I don't think he gets

1170
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: a statue, but I do think I think they based

1171
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: on what he's done, you know, the All Star, the

1172
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: All Star games. I think so he's been the eight

1173
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: All Star, he's been, what he's been, he's gonna be.

1174
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: He was a seven time All NBA selection. So if

1175
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: you cut his career up in sevens, in sevens, or

1176
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: if you cut it up in eights, he's a Hall

1177
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: of Fame player. Every eight, every eight, he's a Hall

1178
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 1: of Famer.

1179
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 2: That's crazy, And I know they're gonna miss him when

1180
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 2: he's gone. Let him tell it.

1181
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 3: The game will continue to go on. Yeah, it's gone,

1182
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 3: but it won't be anything like that. We won't see

1183
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 3: anything like this for a very long time, if ever,

1184
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 3: if ever.

1185
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 2: Again. No no no, no, no, no no no no no.

1186
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: A guy, a guy, a guy that played this long

1187
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,919
Speaker 1: and to play play that great long.

1188
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah,