1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Chelsea Handler. Welcome to Life Will Be the 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Death of Me, a production of I Heart Radio. Hi everybody, 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: we're here in studio this week. Instead of giving you 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: another stand up show, I thought we would give you 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: an in studio interview with my personal trainer. Brandon's here, 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: my personal assistant. Brandon. Are you an executive assistant now 7 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: or are you a secretary? Okay? And Bernice, it's all 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: of the bees, Ben, Bruno, Bernice, Brandon, and bitch Ben. 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: Thanks for sitting down with us today. That's actually how 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: I have you programmed in my cell phone? Oh? Really? 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: I thought it was kunt Nope. Good to know. He's 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: my personal trainer and he is also a friend. A 13 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: lot of people think that we have penetrated each other, 14 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: so we'd like to clarify at the top of this 15 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: podcast that that is not the case. That Ben is Ben. 16 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: Are you currently single? Ben is single and available? I 17 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: am single and available. Um Brandon are in a relationship? Okay, 18 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: so two out of three UM live ones? Correct live ones? Anyway, 19 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: I just got just mean we're actively like available, like 20 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: it's not for each other. Three out of three live ones. Well, no, no, 21 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: he's taken he has a love but we're not. He's 22 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: on a live one like he's not out there looking 23 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: to get some action. I get it. I know that 24 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: you're out there looking to get action, right, Yes, I 25 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: am also looking to get action. Are we going to 26 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: put my cell in the podcast? No? No, we'll put 27 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: your address on it. Um. I just got back from London. 28 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: I went and I saw Wimbledon. I saw a bunch 29 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: of people play tennis, which I love. I love going 30 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: to London for Wimbledon. It's one of the most civilized 31 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: sporting events and and it's civilized. Well just watching it 32 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: is just a civilized experience being at Wimbledon because I 33 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: have a royal problem with I know you love football 34 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: basketball because you train a lot of those guys to 35 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: Wimbledon's actually on my action not with a T. It's 36 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: wimbled and with a D. Wimble done. I can't even 37 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 1: say it right now, that's the right way, wimble Ton done. 38 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: Whatever is on my bucket list of sporting events. That 39 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: and the Masters are the next two that I want 40 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,399 Speaker 1: to check up. And the Masters is golf. Masters is golf? Yeah, yeah, 41 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: I don't need to see that. Do you have a 42 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: preference for sporting events, Brandon not one. I love to 43 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: go to a live supporting event, but I'm not going 44 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: to watch anything on TV. Okay, well, we had a 45 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: huge victory for the US with the Women's Cup, and 46 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: that is something that I could watch over and over 47 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: and over again. Even though I don't understand soccer. I 48 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: don't get any of the plays. I just know when 49 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: somebody makes a goal. The problem with soccer, though, when 50 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: you say that, I'm with you, is that in a 51 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: ninety minute game, there's like one to two goals and 52 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: they always seem to happen when you like get up 53 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: to take a piss or something like that. So the 54 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: most of the time you're watching the game, they just 55 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: kick it down, they shoot miss, there's a corner kick, 56 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: they go back the other way like nothing happens. That's 57 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: the tricky part for me with soccer. I feel like 58 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: soccer is on the sports to where you have to 59 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: have played it to really enjoy it. Like if you 60 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: go to watch it, you're not just going to a 61 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: football game, like have a beer and watch what happens soccer. 62 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: Those are committed people. But I used to play soccer, 63 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: but I still feel because there aren't a ton of 64 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: goals except the US running up to score in the 65 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: first in the first round. But for the most part, 66 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: it's one to two goals and you know, then a 67 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 1: whole lot of jogging around nothing. Well, I mean it's 68 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: but it's the most watched. Yeah, I mean, people love 69 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: women soccer. People love it more than men right now too. Yeah, 70 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm firmly on the bandwagon. Yeah, why would 71 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: There's nothing not to love for men and women. It's 72 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: got everything for something for everybody. This is their fourth 73 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: consecutive title. I don't know about that. It's their second 74 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: consecutive title, do you know, Ben, I don't. I don't. 75 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: I mean when I say I'm firmly on the bandwagon, 76 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: I was firmly on the bandwagon four years ago too. 77 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: For like, who's your favorite player? Well, I mean Megan 78 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: Rapino is a study. Um, Alex Morgan is stud to study. Yeah, yeah, 79 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: she's probably my favorite. Well, yeah, I like how viciferous 80 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: Megan Rapino is. I like really okay for Alex Morgan? Okay, Well, 81 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: I'll see if she contacts us and we can let 82 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: you know. Um, we brought you here specifically today, So anyway, 83 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: we first of all. Anyways, first of all, I want 84 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: to say congratulations, and I want to say that every 85 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: victory like this is so great for women. And this 86 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: has been happening a long time, but uh with women's soccer, 87 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: but it's really great to see it, especially when we 88 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: have such uh, such competitive women. I mean, we are 89 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: the best soccer team right now, right in the US. 90 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: But we won one seems like so easily. Each country. 91 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: It was like a gold and a half because it 92 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: was we won, but it was like a beat down 93 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: every Yeah. Okay, so let's talk about working out because 94 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: how long? How long have I known You've been a 95 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: lot of people are curious about our workouts and people 96 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: say I look really good. So I want to say 97 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: thank you because I know you know that I don't 98 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: always feel that way, that I'm very hard on myself, 99 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: and that I don't always take compliments very well well 100 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: at all. Okay, so when did we start working out together? 101 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:39,239 Speaker 1: We started working out I remember March of two thousand 102 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: and fifteen, so that's like four half years. It's it's 103 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: like the trainer equivalent of common law. It's been a while, yeah, 104 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of like trainers out here in 105 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: l A. And so I was very averse to having 106 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: one of those celebrity type trainers that trains a lot 107 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: of celebrities because I don't like that action. I like 108 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: to be on the d L. You do train other celebrities, 109 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: but you don't seem to be an asshole about it. 110 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: I try try not to be an asshole. Brandon, do 111 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: you think Ben's an asshole? No? Ben is the nicest 112 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: guy around, nicer than you. Well, I don't know. That's 113 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: a tough call, but Ben, do you think Brandon's nice? 114 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: Brandon is really nice? Thanks Ben. Earlier you mentioned that 115 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: he does train a lot of athletes, and what is 116 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: the difference in that clientele because it's pretty specific and 117 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: you don't talk about a lot of your celebrity clients, 118 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: but you do post a lot about your athletes. Yeah, 119 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: you know, well, uh, the thing about training athletes, my 120 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: background is actually training athletes before I moved to l A. 121 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: That's mostly what I did. And And where were you 122 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: before l A? Right outside of Boston, Luburn, Massachusetts. And 123 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: the thing about training athletes in l all So, to backtrack, 124 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: in Boston, I trained a mix of pro athletes, but 125 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: it was mostly year round. It was middle school, high school, 126 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: and Kyle of athletes, and in l A now it's 127 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: just pro athletes. So that means that when I say 128 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: that I train athletes, it's like for two or three 129 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: months out of the year and then the rest of 130 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: the time they're in season doing their thing. It's just 131 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: in the off season. So it's not like I'm training 132 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: the year round. The clients like Chelsea that live here, 133 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: it's year round. And so when you look at somebody 134 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: like me, because there's a big fallacy that women can't 135 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: lift weights because we're gonna get bulky, and you've shown 136 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: me that that's not true because I lift heavy weights 137 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: and I'm smaller than I have been my entire life 138 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: working out, and that's true for other clients of yours, 139 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: like kd Upton says the same thing, that she lifts heavy, 140 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: heavy weights and she's thinner than she's ever been. Um, 141 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: and you, so, what what is that? What is the 142 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: philosophy there to explain to women to not be scared, 143 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: not be scared of weights Because I was scared of 144 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: weights and I thought cardio was the way. And what 145 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: I've discovered is the less cardio I do the more weights, 146 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: the leaner I am. Well, I think a lot of 147 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: women are scared to lift weights, understandably so because a 148 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: lot of the programs out there come from guys, and 149 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: a lot of the guys that train women train the 150 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: women like they would train themselves. And I think that 151 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: when I talk about strength training for women, I'm not 152 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: talking about doing tons of bench press and that type 153 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: of stuff. It focuses on the areas that women want 154 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: to focus on. And when I you know, and the 155 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: thing now is like I do personal training, So the 156 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: workouts you do are different than some of the other 157 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: women I trained because of the areas you're trying to 158 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: focus on and your injury history and all that type 159 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: of stuff. But the thing about the weights is that 160 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: I don't think women always really realize. The word that 161 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: I hear a lot is they want to be toned 162 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: instead of like guys say, like jacked or whatever. Women 163 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: want to be toned, but like tone. When you hear 164 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: a guy come in and say I want to get jacked, 165 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: do you want to punch him in the face? I mean, 166 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: that would be real douchy. I've thankfully I've never really 167 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: had anybody say that. Maybe I have actually had people 168 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: say that, but because sometimes it seems like the week 169 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: the workouts you get up to on the weekends with 170 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: your buddies seemed very gerilla ish. Yeah, I I have 171 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: that inner meat head in me that I kind of 172 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: have to channel. You know, I used to be actually 173 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: before you met me, I was way more of a 174 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: meathead and then I've kind of become a little bit 175 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: soft since I moved to l A. But I still 176 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: have that meathead in me. Do you think that's the 177 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: thing people come becomes soft when they moved to l 178 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: A totally? And yeah, exactly. I mean it's happened to me. 179 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: I drink like greens juice and ship like things that 180 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: I would have like I want to kick my own 181 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: ass sometimes, Like for the things I'm doing now, it's 182 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: just hard to do. I haven't figured out a way. Um. Yeah, no, 183 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: I've definitely changed. I don't think I'm like a huge, 184 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: huge pussy yet, but it's like I'm more so than 185 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: I was when I moved here. But you're right, the workouts, 186 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: it's funny. I spend my whole I don't know if 187 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: it's funny. I say that too much, but it's not 188 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: funny at all, but thank you, because I don't want 189 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: the listeners looking forward to something funny. So I spend 190 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: my whole day with clients being somewhat of a mom 191 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: and being very um, you know, overly cautious with what 192 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: I have them do. I really don't want to hurt 193 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: my clients, which you know you shouldn't want to hurt 194 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: your clients. But then what makes me happy as far 195 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: as training is like doing all the stupid ship that 196 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: I tell my clients not to do, so, you know, 197 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: sort of when everybody goes home, then that's like when 198 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: my buddies come over and I do, you know, questionably 199 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: reckless things that I just want to do. On the 200 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: subject of moving to l a m becoming more, I 201 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: guess of a pussy, right, because we all we all 202 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: have I have to say that I said that, and 203 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: then I almost didn't say it because sometimes when I 204 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: say that, women say that that's a really mean thing, 205 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: and I shouldn't say that, So you don't I don't mean. 206 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: I don't mean that in the mean way. I love pussy, Okay, Brandon, 207 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: do you love pussy? Not in the same way, right, 208 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: So let's just get that off the table right now, 209 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: or on the table. Actually, let's get it off the 210 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: table right. So, Brandon, you have you taken some workout 211 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: tips from Ben? Because I know that you guys come, 212 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: you come in and try, and you know Ben's always 213 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: willing to help. I trying to not cross that line 214 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: and when you find someone who has a specific professions 215 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: like asking a doctor for medical advice all the time. 216 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: But he has given me good tips, He's given me supplements. 217 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: He's because Brett, Bret Brandon works out like a lunatic 218 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 1: more than I do. He's jacked. Yeah, you're what I'm saying. 219 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: I don't but I don't like it. But I think 220 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: that's one of those like body this morph your things. 221 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: You look at it, and as you get bigger, you 222 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: don't see it the same way. When you get thinner. 223 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: It's harder to realize until someone's like, oh, you look 224 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: really thin today, and then it's like, oh, that's the 225 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: affirmation that you need that you're doing the right thing. 226 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: I want to go back to something you said really quick, 227 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: because you said that like you never want to hurt 228 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: anyone that you train, But what does that threshold like 229 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: When Chelsea says that she wants to like either tone 230 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: or tighten a certain area, Like how do you know 231 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: how far to push it still making them uncomfortable to 232 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: get better but not hurting them obviously. Well, that's a 233 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: great question because when you're a personal trainer. I'm friends 234 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: with a lot of physical therapists and we always talk 235 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: about how our jobs are seemingly similar, but they're very 236 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: different because nobody comes to me to address their injuries. 237 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: They come to me to if they're an athlete and 238 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: you know, improve their performance or most people, it's more aesthetic, 239 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: you know, or or health or what. But most most 240 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: of the time it's aesthetic. And to get in really 241 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: really good shape, you have to train really really hard 242 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: and push your body, but you can't get hurt. You 243 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: know that the easiest way to get out of shape 244 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: is to get hurt and not be able to train. 245 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: And my clients always come to me wanting to push 246 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: it hard and getting good shape and things, and I 247 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: am sometimes I'm very conservative because having hurt myself and 248 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 1: had gone and I've actually had a couple of surgeries, 249 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: that's when you get out of shape. But my clients 250 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: don't always like see that. So, like Chelsea, sometimes feels 251 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: like I ask her too much how she's feeling, or 252 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: she wants to work through things when I want to 253 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: let it rest because I kind of know like in 254 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: the moment, they don't think about getting hurt, but I 255 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: know like if you get hurt, then you know that 256 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: sucks and that puts your life on hold. So safety 257 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: is kind of like the underlying thing of any program. 258 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: But at the same time, yeah, you do have to 259 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: train really really hard to get results. You know, it's 260 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: um but I also think that the you know, like 261 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: I I've been talking this whole podcast and my tour 262 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: of it has been a lot of therapy talk. I 263 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: think the to go hand in hand a lot because 264 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: I think becoming really physical, Like I used to look 265 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: at physical fitness as a necessary evil, like I just 266 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: had to do it to remain thin because I was 267 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: on TV all the time. Now I look at as 268 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: a mental necessity because to stay fit physically is linked 269 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: with staying fit emotionally and staying fit mentally. Like the 270 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: to go hand in hand. So when when when you 271 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: when I don't feel strong physically, it affects me mentally, 272 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: and I want to feel strong in both areas and 273 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: those two things. People say that to you, I think 274 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: a lot when you're learning about fitness or you're getting 275 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: into fitness, and you're like, yeah, funk off, but it's 276 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: so true. Oh, it's so true. Well for me, I've 277 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: always said that working out is like therapy for me, 278 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: and I've always met that. I used to literally just 279 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: work out. I didn't go to therapy. Now I do both. 280 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, we both go to there and we meditated 281 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: together the other day on the lawn right in the sunshine. 282 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: Wasn't that nice? Yeah? And then Ben fell asleep for 283 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: two hours. If that gives you any indication of his personality, 284 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: I just passed right out. What I was going to say, though, 285 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: is I think you know, guys tend to get a 286 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: default emotion is like anger, piste off. But a lot 287 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: of guys that I know feel similar literally to me, 288 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: that when they're piste off, that you know, doing a 289 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: really hard workout and turning on angry music and you know, 290 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: lifting really heavy weights just somehow makes you feel better, right, 291 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: you know? Do you feel that way when you work out? Like, 292 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: if you're angry, do you want to go work out? 293 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: I'm stoned a lot when I work out so it 294 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: helps me I deal with ben and then be It 295 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: helps me really focus on the workout and then I 296 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: get really strong, like the couple of times i've been 297 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: really stoned. Remember, you've had good workouts. I've had great 298 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: workout So now I know. Okay, you know, and I've 299 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: had good workouts when you're stone because you tend to 300 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: be nicer to me, which I appreciate. Right, Okay, well, 301 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: I guess you're welcome. Thank you. I want to ask 302 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: you a question about therapy because you never went to 303 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: therapy until you moved to California. Right. I did twice, 304 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: but I was over two. It was never stuck. And 305 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: so what made you want to go to therapy? I 306 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: like when men talk about therapy, so I think it's 307 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: important for us to discuss it a little bit. What 308 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: made you decide to bite the bullet and find a 309 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: therapist here? Well, I first went to therapy against my 310 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: will when I was like ten, and my my dad 311 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: committed suicide when I was nine. And that's really tricky 312 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: to figure out at any age, I think, but it's 313 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: I know. All I can say is that it's really 314 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: tricky to figure out when you're ten and I was 315 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: put in therapy with more of like a psychiatrist, and 316 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: also wanted to give me medicine, and I didn't like 317 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: the medicine. I didn't like talking about stuff, and so 318 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: I basically stopped going. As soon as I convinced my 319 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: mom to stop going, I just and I never bought in. 320 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: I used to with my psychiatrists. We would just play 321 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: cards and stuff like that, and I would very rarely 322 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: talk about anything. The second time I went to therapy, 323 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: I went through a really bad depression for like two years, 324 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: to the point that because I think my dad committed suicide, 325 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: I always vowed I would never do that because it 326 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: seems like a really frankly, just a cowardly thing to 327 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: do two people that love you. But I used to 328 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: really when I was like nineteen and twenty, I used 329 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: to like look at people that got in fatal car 330 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: accidents and think like lucky bastard, because I just felt 331 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: really in pain all the time, and I didn't think 332 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: I was going to get better, and I couldn't drive, 333 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: and I felt very isolated because my friends were in school, 334 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: and you know, you're kind of out of sight, out 335 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: of mind, so I just felt very lonely, and my 336 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: day consisted of this is prett. Netflix would buy like 337 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: box sets of like The Sopranos and The Wire and 338 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: stuff and just watch them and just try to kill 339 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: the day. So I actually went back to church and 340 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: I didn't like that, and I tried therapy again. And 341 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: did you go on antidepressants that time? No? I did 342 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: when I was ten, and I just like didn't want 343 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: to take him up. So I have an interesting stance 344 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: on antidepressants, interesting to me anyways that we can get into. 345 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: But I went to this therapy, but I wasn't open 346 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: to therapy, and so for somebody, I have a really 347 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: hard time and I still do with my current therapy. 348 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: I have a hard time talking about feelings because I 349 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: think I tend to be somebody that's kind of literal, 350 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: and when people ask me questions that are therapy ish, 351 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: it feels very weird to me, and so I don't 352 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: really know how to answer. Are you able to get 353 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: emotional in front of your therapist? I don't know. No, 354 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: I thinking now, I don't think I ever have. UM. 355 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: I've got emotional very few times. I can remember them all, 356 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: but it's always like random with friends and stuff. Like 357 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: that therapy feels very tricky to me. Um, and so 358 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: I didn't really like it that much when I was 359 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: twenty and then life kind of just chugged along. And 360 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: then I went back to if this is two November 361 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: of two thousand seventeen, I started it back up, and 362 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: that is, Um, it's almost two years now, but it happens. Yeah, 363 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: And I think the key to the key to it 364 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: is that when you're open minded, things come to you 365 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: when you break, like you know, me going to therapy 366 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: open my mind, because at first I was shut down, 367 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: and then I became more and more open, and then 368 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: then I'm open to what meditation and then I'm open 369 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: to listening to a podcast like Oprah Super Soul, which 370 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: five years ago I wouldn't have listened to. I wouldn't 371 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 1: have had the time for. I think being open minded 372 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: it helps in every way, you know, with regard to fitness, 373 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: with regard toss therapy, it's like, okay, I have something 374 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: to learn here. To assume that you don't know everything 375 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: and to say okay, I want to absorb everything I 376 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: don't know about this topic is a great healthy way 377 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: to be. Yeah. And I but I think just being 378 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: open minded too. The idea of therapy is huge too, 379 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: because when I first went, it was like, I don't 380 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: I probably didn't tell you for like three weeks of 381 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: going to therapy. I probably and and you might have 382 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: been one of the earlier people I told, because you 383 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: had told me about your therapy and stuff, so it 384 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: felt like a safe like I honestly kind of saw 385 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: it as a confession. And I didn't tell anybody in 386 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 1: the beginning. Uh, And a couple of my friends I 387 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: told them that I had a panic attack, and I 388 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: remember thinking I was super embarrassed to tell them, and 389 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of like how to describe the embarrassment. 390 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: But it was kind of like I felt like my 391 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: guy friends were going to be like, dude, you're soft, 392 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: Like you're just so soft for doing this. Well, they're 393 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: probably all in therapy. Well that's just it. There were 394 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: so many of my friends because for like five days 395 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 1: I didn't work out, and it's because my throat was 396 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: like just bugging me out. I felt like I couldn't breathe, 397 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: and so I didn't want to like have to breathe harder. 398 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 1: And I remember one of my friends coming over and 399 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: was like, dude, it's anxiety, like you could you can 400 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: work out like you're fun And I'm like, oh, you've 401 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: had this, and he was like, yeah, I've had this. 402 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 1: Come to find out, a ton of guys that I'm 403 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: friends with like go to therapy or we're like, I'd 404 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: like to go to therapy if my financial situation was different. 405 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: It's dope, you're doing that. Like there might be some 406 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: guys out there that are like, oh, man, Ben's a 407 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: huge pussy and but for the most part, I felt 408 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: like a lot of people were like, dude, that's really cool. 409 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: And still it's a little bit weird for me. I 410 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: don't think I've actually ever even like said this publicly, 411 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 1: but most people in my life know it now. I 412 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: still feel a little weird about the idea, but it 413 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: is there's so many guys that it's like, um, you know, 414 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: the Emperor's new clothes, Like everyone's thinking something, but they 415 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: never say it, Like I think it's that type of 416 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: thing where anybody that I know has has gone through 417 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: similar feelings to me. And don't think everyone's done therapy, 418 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: but a lot more people have than I thought. But 419 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: it's a thing that, um, I think when you talk 420 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: to your friends about those type of things that makes 421 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: your friendships a lot more real or meaningful. Because I 422 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: remember when I came to l A. This place will 423 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: teach you l A like, you know, probably more than 424 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: anywhere in the world. Like money doesn't buy happiness, And 425 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: I think that I've learned like it doesn't matter what 426 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: your life is like on the outside, Like everyone's got 427 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: ship they're dealing with, you know, a lot, even if 428 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: your life is ostensibly great. You know, there's stuff that 429 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: that irks people in me in real ways. And it's like, 430 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: you know, if you have a job, you have stress. 431 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: But it's like if you have if you have a family, 432 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: like you have shipped to deal with. If you don't 433 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: have a family, you have shipped to deal with. Like 434 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: there's just everyone's got shipped to deal with, because I 435 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: do think every everybody listening to this podcast has shipped 436 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: to deal with, you know, either some people have the 437 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: luxury of being able to to a therapist, which is 438 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: a luxury, and some people don't. Um but it is 439 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: good to hear that about a guy going to therapy 440 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: because I know every woman in a relationship with a 441 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: man would be happy to know that that person is 442 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: in therapy and that you know there are men going 443 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: and it does help and it's not stupid. I said 444 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: to my cousins recently after their father passed away, that 445 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: they should all go to a therapist and a grief counselor, 446 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: which they were like, we don't need therapy, we don't 447 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: need therapy. And they went to one session with a 448 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: grief counselor and you know, five boys in the room, 449 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: and every one of them came out going, oh my god, 450 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: that helped us so much. So it's good to hear 451 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: people talking about it. Brandon. We're gonna get you your 452 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: own therapists so you can stop confiding in my bell. Okay, 453 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back. 454 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: Uh So tell us how you became a trainer, first 455 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: of all, So do you want the short version or 456 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: the long version? Always the short version. It's going to 457 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: be kind of long. I could probably tell the story 458 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: for you that you were injured. Don't tell the story, 459 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, yeah. So I actually was a sociology 460 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: major in college and interned in finance with Raymond James 461 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: and hated that. And also in college, halfway through my 462 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: sophomore year, I had a back surgery that didn't go well, 463 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: and I had to take two years off a medical leave, 464 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: and I lost forty pounds of body weight, so I 465 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: was super skinny. So I used to do this core 466 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: stuff in two thousand six. I would wager a bet 467 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: that I did more planks, side planks and sit ups 468 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: than any human in the world in two thousand six, 469 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: because will you write two thousand six down in your 470 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: notes section and your on your iPhone, because that's no, 471 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: that's just what I did. I ment. I just wanted 472 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: to get better from this fucking surgery. And I'm somebody 473 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: that if some is good, more is better. And I 474 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: do that in good ways and in bad ways. It's both. 475 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: I've just always somebody that takes things to the extreme, 476 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: you know. And I would do sets of like hundreds 477 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: of sit up and ship and now, like, you're not 478 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: even supposed to do sit ups if you have a 479 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: bad back. I didn't know, So I just did a 480 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: fucking shipload of everything, like I just read, you know, 481 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: That's how I've always been. But I was giving long 482 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: story short, I was giving people advice. Some of it 483 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: was shitty advice, and I just really liked that. So 484 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: I connected the guy who I worked under at Raymond 485 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: James connected me with a trainer who trained his sons 486 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: for football, and that guy offered me a job. I 487 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: kind of parlayed finance into a training job. And then 488 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: it turned out that this guy was a real douche 489 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: bag and pulled the rug out from under me. I 490 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: hope he hears this too. I hate that guy. Well, 491 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: why don't give him a shout out? Yeah? I don't 492 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: want to call him out, but I would. We could 493 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: give him a shout out if you could land the 494 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: fucking plan on this story instead of going on and 495 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: on he said, I was going to be the abridged version. 496 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: It's a bridge dish. I could have gone longer. What 497 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: about boundaries? Did you want to ask him about boundaries? Brandon, 498 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm not great with boundaries, do you? How do you 499 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:01,239 Speaker 1: set boundaries for you and your clients? Because obviously you yes, uh, 500 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think I'm great with boundaries. I 501 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: think that's um. I have a bit of a different 502 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: training business because I don't have a gym and staff 503 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: or anything like that, you know, and and most of 504 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: my clients have trained for as long as we've trained, 505 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: you know, and um we and we we see each 506 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: other quite often. So well, I'm your worst client, though 507 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: you would say, right, or do you have about the 508 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: worst one than? I mean, you don't have to mention 509 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: anyone else's names. No, I don't have to because you're 510 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: the worst, like by far? What constitutes me being your 511 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: worst client? Just? I mean, can I really be honest? 512 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: I mean sometimes I just wish that I had a 513 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: security camera in my gym that could with audio, that 514 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: I could just let people know a normal day workout, 515 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: because I think, like when people see our Instagram videos 516 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: and you're chewing me out, I think like this is 517 00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: nothing compared to just the normal day of like like 518 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: you know, so just so people get an idea. Chelsea 519 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: will walk in and I'll say, hey, how are you doing? 520 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: And She'll go, why the fund do you always ask 521 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: me how I'm doing? I just saw you yesterday, not 522 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: like nothing's happened, Like why would you even say that? 523 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: Like why would you even ask me how I'm doing? 524 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: And I just sit there and think, like for split second, 525 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: just because of her tone, I think like, oh God, 526 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: I did something wrong, like I fucked up. And then 527 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: I think, and I didn't funk up. She's just kind 528 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 1: of a bit right now, like it just doesn't know. 529 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: You're right. In my defense, you you do say hey, 530 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: how you doing three or four times at the beginning 531 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: of every workout, So by the third or third or 532 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: four time, I want you to stop, not three or four, 533 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: but and then and then. For example, when we talk 534 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: about how I trained clients, most people, I will just 535 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: simply ask them for their feedback, like how are you feeling? 536 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: Does anything hurt? Like basic stuff that gives me info 537 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: to whatever. Chelsea doesn't want to answer, like does anything 538 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: like annoys her? If I ask how she's feeling, like 539 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 1: if or if I say to something hurt, she'll be 540 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: like she just like doesn't even say anything. She just 541 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: goes like in this way of like I'm super annoying. 542 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: So I don't have the info to even like, no 543 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: what to do, right, But you have to understand that 544 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: if something is hurting me, I'll probably come I'll lead 545 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: with that, yeah, but you you don't though, yeah, but 546 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: you'll say, like, for example, you know, my shoulder hurts, 547 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 1: and then I'll go, you know, I'm kind of captain obvious, 548 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: so you'll go my my shoulder hurts, and I'll go, okay, 549 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: well like lay off your shoulder and you're like no, no, no, 550 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: but I need to do like shoulder And I'm like, 551 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: well this you don't want to be hurt, Like I 552 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: don't want to tell you don't want to be you know, no, Well, 553 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: I will say, when something's really bothering me, is there 554 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: a way to work around it? Is there a way 555 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: to do something with my shoulder that's not going to 556 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: exasperate it, because I always exacerbate exasperate. Anyways, up top 557 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: there you go. What about for people? Oh and the 558 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: other reason that you're that the worst is you think 559 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: we've done over a thousand workouts. We probably have. Um, 560 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: it feels like it's probably we've done over a thousand, 561 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: and there hasn't been one. There hasn't been one of 562 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: those one thousand. We'll just say it's two thousand where 563 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: we have made a time and stuck to that time. 564 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: I've never met somebody that's not that's and that's a 565 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: that's an exaggeration, and that's the right word for that exaggeration. Well, 566 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: there's been a very few times, so like, yeah, you're 567 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: you're a lot. I do change my schedule around all 568 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: the time, and you're and you have no boundaries. I 569 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: will exactly exactly, so it's kind but I will say 570 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: as far as a client, uh, I kind of want 571 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: you to close your ears because I don't like to 572 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: be nice to your face. But you are the strongest 573 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: client I have with core stuff. Like it's funny because 574 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: you always like tell me I don't know how to 575 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: do apps and you do ship that like a lot 576 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: of people a lot of men can't even do. And 577 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: you hear that, Brandon, I'm listening. You're also the best 578 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: and I actually mean this literally the best uh at 579 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: you know, the exercise that you actually like, but it's 580 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: like the most hate ubiquitously hated exercise in the world. 581 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: The it's called were foot elevated split squads with your 582 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: back on the bench. Every listener is probably listening like 583 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: fun that exercise, but you actually like it and are 584 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: the strongest woman I've ever trained on rear foot elevated splits. 585 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: What I would like to say to all women listening 586 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: is that any exercise that looks so like brutal or hard, 587 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: or that you don't want to tackle, when you do 588 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: do it, and all you have to do is rehabituate yourself. 589 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,479 Speaker 1: If you make a commitment to yourself to say, hey, 590 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to do these workouts, you start to enjoy 591 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: your workouts. You don't hate them every single time. Sure 592 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: their days where you wake up and you're hungover or 593 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: you don't feel like working out, but if you push 594 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: through that stuff, it just becomes away. It's like breathing. 595 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I don't feel right unless I work out. 596 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what kind of shape on me in 597 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: that day. That to get in and like move your 598 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: body helps you maintain happiness throughout the day and maintain 599 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: entergy g throughout the day. So all of it is like, 600 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: you know, it's all of the things that I hate, 601 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: and I'm right there with all of you and I'm like, oh, 602 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: I can't do that, But I have to tell you 603 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: it pays off and it does work in your life 604 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: in a way. It adds something to your life in 605 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: a way that you know, I can always keep up 606 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: with guys no matter what I'm doing, whether it's skiing, 607 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: whether it's hiking or really good skier too. By the way, 608 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: thank you, Ben, that's nice. You're a good skier too. 609 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: It's well, this is nice. It's like a therapy session 610 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: for us. A lot of the women that I train now, 611 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: like you'll see our social media posts of them lifting 612 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: heavyweights and stuff. But like it didn't start there, you know. 613 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: I you know, like I kind of meet people where 614 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: they're at as far as their workout and as far 615 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: as like how gung ho they're trying to go and 616 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: just try to, you know, make small changes. Do you 617 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: tell people not to drink? Do you tell do you 618 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: tell any of your clients not that you don't do well? I? Yeah, 619 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: I do tell people to not to drink if you 620 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: need to look your absolute best for something. By the way, 621 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: if you choose to you know, not listen to me, 622 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: then that's fine. But I will tell people that have 623 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: to aesthetically look a certain way that drinking is not 624 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: going to help with that, you know, um, but for 625 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: just a lifestyle thing, you know, to me, that's like 626 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: a sad way to live. But teach. Are you drinking again? 627 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: I know you didn't drink for a few months because 628 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: you had some issue, right, No, I didn't. Well, yeah, 629 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: the answer is yes, because I got rid of this 630 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: goddamn cough, but I was, yeah, it was. I googled. 631 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: I just couldn't get I couldn't shake this cough and 632 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: and it said that that was that caffeine and alcohol 633 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: were no buenos. So I just said that and then 634 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: not coughing. So what were you going to say, Brandon? Well, 635 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: I was going to pay Ben a compliment because when 636 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: we I know, you plowed right over me. But this 637 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: was a good one I want to give. When we 638 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,719 Speaker 1: went to Park City, Ben went skiing with us, and 639 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: I had never seen him one. I've never seen a 640 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: photo of your shirtless, and your body is kind of 641 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: misleading because you wear you don't wear sue for tight clothes. 642 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: I would say everybody's body's misleading. Yes, you know, I 643 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: mean a lot of times it's misleading. Well, Ben's was 644 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: for me. Kine is definitely misleading because wine looks a 645 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: lot better than I believe it is. No, and see 646 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: I believe the opposite. Okay, anyway back to what you 647 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: were saying. Okay, so when we were in Park City, 648 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: Ben went up to hot tub and I say, sounds 649 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: about right, But again, I've never seen him without a 650 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: shirt on, and there's like no photo online that I've 651 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: seen his body. Your abs, all those abs that you 652 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: did in two thousand and six have endured because you 653 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: are built like a mannequin. Like every ab is perfectly symmetrical. 654 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: You look like Gaston from Beauty and the Beast. Oh 655 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: wasn't it my uncle Terry that you? Oh yes, I 656 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: remember this. He since passed away, so he's no longer 657 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: with us. But my uncle Terry, who was over one day. 658 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: Remember we went to Blue Plate Oyster it once and 659 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: we had some drinks, and we had some and then 660 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: we all went back to my house and you got 661 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: in the pool and my uncle was sitting outside of 662 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: my living I'm going, oh my god, look at that 663 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: guy's body. Can you believe it? And I thought he 664 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: was talking about Brandon. I'm like, Brandon's in the pool. 665 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: And then apparently he was talking about you. So he 666 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: had a big he had a big herd on for you. 667 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: But do you remember he hadn't stopped thinking about it, 668 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: and then a week later he brought it up. So 669 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: I have a question for you guys. Then that's interesting. 670 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I try to stay in good shape because 671 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm a trainer, and just you know, I still like 672 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: thinking myself like an athlete, so I like train harder 673 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: than I probably need to and stuff that said, I 674 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: always think it's super douchey when people that are trainers 675 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: like share lots of photos of themselves. I think it's yeah, 676 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: but I've had people actually a matter of fact, I 677 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: put on the Instagram Q and A if people wanted 678 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: us to talk about anything on the podcast, and somebody 679 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: wrote in like, why don't you ever take pictures with 680 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: your shirt off? And it's like, because I'm not he 681 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: was not a gay guy who asked no, no, It's 682 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: like I don't know who. It's definitely more of a 683 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: gay thing that men do than straight because as soon 684 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: as the guys with his shirt off. I have trainers 685 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: that it for their all their Instagram videos literally take 686 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: their shirt off to like lift their weight and then 687 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: they put their shirt bag. No, you don't need to 688 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: do that, insane. It's like when you go to Barry's 689 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: boot camp and all the guys take their shirt off 690 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: in Unison, like as soon as they go on a 691 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 1: chart moment, you don't even started sweating at. I think 692 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,879 Speaker 1: it's also inappropriate for men to be able to take 693 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 1: their shirts off while they're exercising when we're not allowed 694 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: to take our shirts off and run down. We're not 695 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: allowed to the rule in my gym is I don't 696 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: care if you wear a shirt, but you just can't 697 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: wear gloves. That's for men or women. Like a catchphrase, 698 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 1: which is also another question that I'd like to ask, 699 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: because you're wearing a shirt right now that says remember 700 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: when I asked for your opinion me neither? Like do 701 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: you look for these? Do people send them to you 702 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: because you like a shirt with a logo or not 703 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: a logo a catch Yes? I do. I have a 704 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: solid T shirt collection because people know what I think. 705 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: That's all I care about is what I think. Well 706 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: that's a great answa. Uh yeah, long story short, Yeah, 707 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,919 Speaker 1: I get these are gifts. That was a short story 708 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 1: that wasn't a story that actually there was an answer. Yeah, 709 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: long story. Short is only for storytelling, not for answer. 710 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: If you because people have said to me that you 711 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: know that you do this thing where you talk over somebody, 712 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: but because you were talking ship, I'm just trying to 713 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: get you shut the funk up. But I would say, 714 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: as a trainer, people tell me that you know you 715 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: should your body is your business card is one thing 716 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: that people say and that clients are more likely to 717 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 1: want to train with you if they see your in 718 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: good shape. But like, if you saw a trainer that 719 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: had all these shirtless pictures, would you be more apt 720 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: to train with him or less apt? Personally less? But 721 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: Brandon answer for yourself, because you're a gay man, do 722 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 1: you like that? No, I would say less as well. 723 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: I would. I think that for me, it's saying like 724 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: that they have that body, but I don't need to 725 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: see it, Like if they haven't, I know what they're doing, 726 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,479 Speaker 1: but like I don't need to look at it. There's 727 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: a personality type that goes along with posting naked photos 728 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: of yourself. I know because I'm one of those people. 729 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: So that is something that you know. If somebody's posing 730 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 1: like that, you're gonna have one of two reactions usually, 731 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure there's a group of people that 732 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: have a third reaction, which is in the middle and 733 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: they don't carry it away. But yeah, it seems to 734 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: be I was asking more out of curiosity. What about 735 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 1: your mom? Your your mom's personal trainer. Does that interfere 736 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: at all with your relationship with her? Are you able 737 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: to talk about personal stuff when you're training her. My 738 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: mom is how old? I'm not gonna one maybe or 739 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: I think twenty. She's turning soon. I give her at 740 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: workout tips sometimes. But you ever heard that saying you're 741 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: never an expert in your own home. I'm sure it's 742 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: just saying, but that's how I feel about my house. Brandon. Yeah, 743 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 1: that has different applications, but she doesn't always listen to 744 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 1: me on workout. But you do train your grandmother too, 745 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: who's like ninety right, she can work out. My grandmother 746 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,240 Speaker 1: can run circles around most people. She does exercise class 747 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: six days a week, you know, stuff in the pool 748 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: and everything. Um, and she's also year old. Okay, well, 749 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: this sounds like a good time to take a break. 750 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,720 Speaker 1: Is there a boundary or is there a thought process 751 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 1: that you have when working with like l Well, I'll 752 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 1: say this with any client I train. I always tell 753 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: trainers that are asking how to program because one thing, 754 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: a lot of trainers that train a high level clientele 755 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: are more specialists, are having a niche or is it 756 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: niche or niche niche I thought it was niche whatever, 757 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: So a lot of trainers will have a niche so 758 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 1: it could be training just you know, uh, models, or 759 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: just act you know, superhero actors, or just baseball players 760 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 1: or just basketball players. And my client tell is probably 761 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: the most like diverse of of any trainers. You train 762 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: a lot of athletes train you know, I trained my 763 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 1: youngest clients like eighteen, my oldest clients in his seventies 764 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: and and uh summer athletes, some are non athletes, And 765 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: you trained just Spiel right CBL. She's got it the 766 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,280 Speaker 1: best one. I mean, that's pretty much the best body 767 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: I think in my in my opinion, and have any 768 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 1: female I think Jessica Bale's body is what I would 769 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 1: they have a saying form follows function, but she does 770 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 1: some of the most savage workouts stronger, and she's stronger 771 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 1: than I am for sure. So what I was going 772 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,959 Speaker 1: to say though, with personal training is the personal part 773 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: refers to the client, not the trainers. So a lot 774 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: of trainers, in my opinion, go awry because they just 775 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: try to train everyone the same. And for me, uh, 776 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: I asked the client their goals and then just do that. 777 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: I know that sounds super obvious, but when you talk 778 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: about problem areas, I've I've actually never once said to 779 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: a woman like, oh, like, I know you said you 780 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: want to work on like your glutes, but like your 781 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: arms are pretty shitty, Like I think we might need 782 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 1: to work on that. I've never said that. Like when 783 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,240 Speaker 1: I first meet a new client, we have three questions, goals, 784 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: injury history, and past training history. The last one don't 785 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: really care that much about, but it just gives me 786 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: an idea of what they like and don't like. But 787 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: the goals in injury history are really the only things 788 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 1: I care about, and it comes from the horse's mouth 789 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: what they want to work on, and then we just 790 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: do that within the constraints of their injury. And I 791 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: also want to add that when there are trainers that 792 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 1: do the same thing for every client, that's how you 793 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 1: get injured. It's I've done that. I've been injured with 794 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: every trainer that I've ever worked with except for Ben, 795 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 1: and so uh that one prescription for everybody does not 796 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 1: work when people have you dancing around like a maniac, 797 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: and that that doesn't work for everybody. And with like, 798 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: for example, you're you're somebody that likes to do a 799 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,359 Speaker 1: lot of arms. I trained some women. We haven't done 800 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: arms in three years. None we do all lower body 801 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,919 Speaker 1: and core and what's happening with their arms. They don't 802 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 1: want to work on their arms. They don't want muscle 803 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 1: the I want muscular arms. Well, some women are uncomfortable 804 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: with the level of muscularity in their arms. They want 805 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: to back. Everybody is different, you know, and uh, guys 806 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,720 Speaker 1: are different in this regard. Some guys like being really 807 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: in and their worst nightmares like being like all jacked up. 808 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: Some guys like being bigger, and you know, women are 809 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: the same way, beauties in the eye of the beholder. 810 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: There's a lot of women that like a little bit 811 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: more muscle, some that don't. It just you know, it depends. 812 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: And as a personal trainer, it's not my place to 813 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 1: pass judgment on anything. It's just like basically doing what 814 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: they want to do. Yeah, but his question was, how 815 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: do you are you how do you remain appropriate when 816 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: you're dealing with especially with training women. I mean, I 817 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: think that's just that has nothing to do with being 818 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: a trainer. I think that's just more not being a creep. 819 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 1: You know. I've always just kept it above board. I 820 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: don't know how to really explain it because we laugh, 821 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 1: we joke, But I think you know, there's never a 822 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 1: question that it's like, you know, how do you think 823 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 1: being a trainer in l A has affected or impacted 824 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: your dating life helped you? No, I mean it doesn't 825 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 1: have any bearing. I guess I think it has a 826 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 1: lot of bearing. I mean you make a lot of 827 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,280 Speaker 1: connections just based on your social media because of your training. 828 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: So I think there is a linkage depends who you ask. 829 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: Being a trainer is either like my friends tell me, 830 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: for example, that I underplay my job a lot, because 831 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 1: if you were to meet somebody you talk about how 832 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: many trainers there are in l A, it seems like 833 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,360 Speaker 1: there's more trainers than people in l A. And most 834 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: of the time in l A, when I think trainer, 835 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: I think somebody that wants to be an actor or 836 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,879 Speaker 1: whatever and it's just training in their free time and 837 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 1: probably makes like ship money and you know whatever. And 838 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: my friends always tell me with girls that I need 839 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: to like talk my job up a little more because like, 840 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 1: you know, if you just say you're a trainer, like 841 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,919 Speaker 1: this girl might think like you just have a shitty job. 842 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: But to me that like like doing that or name 843 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: dropping everybody trainer things as akin to taking your shirt 844 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,919 Speaker 1: off every day on social media. It's a real douchebag move. 845 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,479 Speaker 1: So it's it's interesting you say the trainer thing, because 846 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 1: sometimes I wonder if that's a good thing or a 847 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: bad thing. Well, then what's your stance on dating a client? 848 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 1: I've never done it. Would you do it? Yeah? But 849 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: I never have. But I mean I would never just 850 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: like hook up with a client. But if there's somebody 851 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: that I really liked and whatever, then I mean I 852 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,240 Speaker 1: guess i'd have to like figure it out if that happened, 853 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: but I would probably either stop training or like whatever. 854 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: But um, yeah, I think. I mean one of my 855 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 1: friends it's a trainer, uh met his met his wife training. 856 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you know it's going strong. Yeah, it's been 857 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 1: like twenty years. My point, I mean, you always meet 858 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: people that you just like spend time with, so it 859 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: could happen. It's just never it's actually never happened. But 860 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 1: I'm not like, yeah, it could happen, but you have 861 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: a lot of like fitness models hit you up on 862 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: Instagram or like I feel like I feel like we've 863 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 1: talked about this a few times. Why anybody who's hooking 864 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,800 Speaker 1: up with you doesn't know you're hooking up with other people. Yeah, 865 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 1: I mean unless you're in some serious relationship, which you're not. 866 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody needs kid and wife and kids. But 867 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 1: everyone needs to understand as adults that if you're just 868 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 1: hooking up with somebody, that's simply all that it is 869 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,919 Speaker 1: until you get to the next level, and there should 870 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 1: be no hurt feelings about that. As long as everybody's like, 871 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 1: you know, not committing to anything. I mean, we're all single. 872 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: Everybody's trying to get just get a nut. Amen, Amen's sister, 873 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: love it, bro. Just just be glad you're not in 874 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 1: the single dating world. Brandon, Well, I have one more 875 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: question for Betton that's personal. So you're talking about once 876 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 1: and needs, and recently I realized that twenty nine I 877 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: need to start stretching before or after I work out, 878 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 1: which I never did. Yeah, let's do the stretching. What's 879 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 1: the deal because I get conflicting reports all the time 880 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 1: about what about stretching before. Yeah, there's so a lot 881 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 1: of trainers. Now, you know, everything goes in waves. It's 882 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 1: like same with food. You know, one point something is good, 883 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: at one point something's bad. Stretching has fallen out of 884 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 1: favor pre work out because people say it decreases your 885 00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,240 Speaker 1: strength and force production. So a lot of people don't 886 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 1: think that you should stretch pre workout. Uh. I do 887 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 1: believe in stretching pre work out for the most part 888 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 1: for people that are tight, because one the people I'm training, 889 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 1: if you told me, you know, we stretch at the 890 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 1: beginning of every workout. But if you told me my 891 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,280 Speaker 1: new goal is to set the world record and squats, 892 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: we wouldn't probably stretch pre workout. We would you know, 893 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 1: stretch after, and we would just everything would be, you know, 894 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 1: singularly focused around that goal. And so if you know, 895 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to maybe take the chance of your 896 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 1: force production going down or whatever. But for most people's 897 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 1: goals that are tight, I think the more you stretch, 898 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 1: the better. Uh. And stretching definitely does increase your mobility 899 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 1: in the short term, so it allows you to get 900 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 1: into the positions that you need to be in for 901 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 1: the workout more effectively, like for example, those rear elevated 902 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,320 Speaker 1: split squats, if you didn't stretch your hip flexor's first, 903 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,319 Speaker 1: it might be tough for you to get into that 904 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 1: position with an upright Torso like this is probably more 905 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 1: nerdy than people want to get. But okay, I'm gonna 906 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: stop you right there, Ben Bruno. We're gonna have to 907 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 1: wrap this up because I have to go Tanning. I 908 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 1: would like to thank Brandon for being here today, and 909 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,840 Speaker 1: I would like to thank Ben Bruno for being here today. 910 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: I will be on the road this weekend doing stand up. St. 911 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 1: Louis sold out, but there are tickets to Minneapolis. You 912 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,879 Speaker 1: can get tickets to My Life will Be the Death 913 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:26,280 Speaker 1: of Me stand up comedy tour in Minneapolis, New Orleans, Nashville, 914 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 1: coming up at Live nation dot com. Oh, in Australia, 915 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 1: I'm announcing in New Zealand. Yeah, how are you like 916 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 1: a news stand up again? Oh? Brandon? And it's just 917 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,359 Speaker 1: coming back to my roots, you know what I mean. 918 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 1: I just had to back my way right back into it. Well, 919 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 1: I'll be seeing your Nashville and New Orleans. Oh is 920 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 1: that right? Oh? Great? It'll be a whole family affair. 921 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,959 Speaker 1: Is my Bell coming as well? And on that note, 922 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 1: I want to announce that all of the proceeds from 923 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 1: my I Decide bracelets and the I Decide t shirts 924 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 1: that I've been selling on tour, and they're also available 925 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 1: on my website, Chelsea Handler dot com. 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