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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation, how we do it? Well, that's

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Speaker 2: good us too. Our number two here of the Drive

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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network. As

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Speaker 2: we continue to get ready for Steelers Dolphins Monday night football.

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Speaker 2: A massive one and let's continue that now little matchup segment, simple,

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Speaker 2: easy pasy, but a little thing we call five Star Friday.

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Speaker 3: We're humbled and excited to be in these five star matchups.

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Speaker 4: Five star matchup.

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Speaker 1: Somebody leaving here with the loves not gonna be a.

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Speaker 2: All right, Matt, We did, I think kind of potentially

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Speaker 2: cover the biggest one, and that is a chain. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if there's a specific I mean, maybe the

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Speaker 2: one thing that I didn't ask you when we talked

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Speaker 2: about how they run the fall, run the ball differently

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Speaker 2: than the Steelers last couple opponents.

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Speaker 3: His skill set, three.

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Speaker 4: Very different run games.

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Speaker 2: Frankly, yes, is this a Is this a big game

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Speaker 2: for Patrick Queen and for those off ball linebackers and

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Speaker 2: their ability to track sideline to sideline with a guy

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Speaker 2: like h Yeah, for.

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Speaker 5: Sure, even just keeping up with his speed first of all,

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Speaker 5: I mean, can you run with the guy? And right

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Speaker 5: if he doesn't play it well, it looks like he

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Speaker 5: would be the backup, or it would be the next

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Speaker 5: guy up. He was against the Jets. He also can fly,

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Speaker 5: but he's not like a chan But more so it's

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Speaker 5: understanding the blocking angles, not taking a false step, not

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Speaker 5: not taking the cheese, you know, like there's a lot

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Speaker 5: of eye candy for those line you can definitely take

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Speaker 5: the cheese.

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Speaker 4: So that's a huge deal.

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Speaker 5: But the one thing we have been touched on is

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Speaker 5: their offensive line isn't like littered with big name guys.

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Speaker 4: It's not Lane Johnson and you know Dickerson.

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Speaker 5: And but it's gotten better and better and better. It's young,

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Speaker 5: and I think they're like the quickest group I've seen

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Speaker 5: off the ball. Their center is very very active, like

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Speaker 5: a pouncy active type guy, I mean, really an athletic player,

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Speaker 5: and getting him to the second level is something they

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Speaker 5: do really really well. So just like Queen and the

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Speaker 5: linebackers in general, they may have some very active type,

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Speaker 5: quick you know linemen in their lap too. Especially Frankly,

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Speaker 5: if the Steelers D line plays as poorly as it has,

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Speaker 5: not cam, but the rest of them have been going

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Speaker 5: backwards a lot lately too. Yeah, and these guys are

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Speaker 5: good leverage, quickness players. They're not brutes, but they're they

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Speaker 5: get the job done, to say the least.

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Speaker 3: They get in the right spot quickly, out leverage you,

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Speaker 3: out you, and yeah, light on the fat and yeah you're.

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Speaker 2: Gonna have It's almost as much of a mental challenge

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Speaker 3: Just a group and a run game.

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Speaker 5: And everything Miami's offense does is fast and quick.

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Speaker 4: You know, it may really make you think.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's kind of the closest maybe to and I

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Speaker 2: hesitate to even say this because it almost feels like

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Speaker 3: But there's some like collegiate elements.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, their offense, Like we did the show with

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Speaker 5: Merrill last night and he's like, people look at it

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's innovative in that they do different their

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Speaker 5: their offense doesn't look like most NFL offenses, but don't

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Speaker 5: mistake that for it not being like fundamentally sound sure,

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Speaker 5: you know, right, right, And they'll even do old school

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Speaker 4: You know, so they throw a lot at you.

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Speaker 5: And I'm sure people especially remember like when Tyreek was

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Speaker 5: really him flying around behind the line of scrimmage before

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Speaker 3: Jet sweet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of crazy emotions and yeah, well, speaking of Tua,

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Speaker 2: let's talk about Tua because Matt, I think there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of misconceptions amongst I guess I could this week

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Speaker 2: label it as Steelers fans, but just whatever fan base

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Speaker 2: what I mean by that. I think a lot of

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Speaker 3: That was scrambling. He has completely changed his game since then.

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Speaker 2: He is I mean, could you is it fair to

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Speaker 4: Almost exclusively.

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Speaker 2: He does doesn't do the tuist stuff that I think

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Speaker 2: a lot of people got accustomed to and would expect. Again,

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Speaker 2: if you're someone who just watches your NFL team and

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Speaker 2: watching the Dolphins, if they're on national TV and you've

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Speaker 3: His first you know, handful of years in the league.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think he's very clearly exactly as I say,

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Speaker 5: like some of these guys like, oh you you pigeonhole them.

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Speaker 4: But they can do a lot of different things.

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Speaker 5: And this is what would bother me and really is

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Speaker 5: a challenge for designing an offense around this quarterback. Is

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Speaker 5: timing and rhythm is everything. You know that that back

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Speaker 4: Ball comes out. He's got He's very decisive and accurate

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Speaker 5: And over the last couple of years, they've done a

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Speaker 5: quick strike, low time to throw. But the league also

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Speaker 5: doesn't move particularly well. He is a pocket passer. I mean,

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Speaker 5: he's not a stiff, but like he has like thirty

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Speaker 5: don't run him unless it's absolutely necessary. He does take

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Speaker 5: then this year he's added a lot of interceptions to

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Speaker 5: he's leading league interceptions and they're hardly throwing the ball

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Speaker 3: Yes, you know, so he's he's a weird evil.

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Speaker 1: He is.

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Speaker 4: He's not for every right.

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Speaker 2: He's not for everyone, and he's not what we remember

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Speaker 5: Remember it was tank for Tua, like he was the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Tank for Tua was a real thing.

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Speaker 2: And then Joe Burrow ends up kind of having that

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Speaker 2: goes first in that draft. And yeah, there's been times

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Speaker 3: As the package, and.

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Speaker 4: It needs to be in a certain system, you know.

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Speaker 5: Like usually I give people a hard time and they're like, oh,

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Speaker 5: he's a system quarterback. I'm like Montana was a system quarterback,

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Speaker 2: Almost all these guys are. You need a system and

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Speaker 5: But he's really two is really a square peg you

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Speaker 3: You know, a good way to put it, very good

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Speaker 2: And then I guess kind of final piece of the

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Speaker 2: offense that I wanted to discuss with you is Jalen

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Speaker 2: Waddle another name, another name that people are very familiar with,

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Speaker 2: but I think even more so this year he is

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Speaker 2: his his his share of the pie is much greater.

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Speaker 2: Obviously with Tyreek Hill being out for such a long time.

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Speaker 3: He is.

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Speaker 2: You know, they will, they will grind you down almost low,

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Speaker 2: here comes here comes the speedy Jalen Wattle to beat

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Speaker 2: or find him in space. I don't know, Matt, if

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Speaker 2: he's like one of those Tier one wide receivers in

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Speaker 4: No, but not off.

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Speaker 2: But I think he's formally in that, in that next

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Speaker 3: And you've got to account.

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Speaker 2: For him on Monday evening or he will make you pay.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think people will. It's easy to kind

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Speaker 3: Lot of people were like, oh, they're one and six.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and frankly Waddle's numbers the last two years before

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Speaker 5: who he is. I mean, he's had some injuries the

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Speaker 5: with Tyreek there, he really had to play the role Robin,

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Speaker 5: but he's They had him do a lot of the

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Speaker 5: lot of the stuff at the Lion scrimmage versus press

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Speaker 5: it like a champ. I mean he's a Bama competitive sure. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: he was there with DeVante Smith. And you know, like

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Speaker 5: he's he's played with great dudes and he is unselfish,

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Speaker 5: but he can shine alone. And that's what's happening now.

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Speaker 5: I mean he's not just a speed guy, always great speed.

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Speaker 5: You always think about speed with Miami. He's a route runner.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he has pretty much pretty much the full package.

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Speaker 2: He's just not huge, twenty seven years old. He's in

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Speaker 2: his peak, in his prime right now.

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Speaker 4: They just paid him, gladly paid him.

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Speaker 2: He's always had the speed, but like you mentioned, he's

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Speaker 2: got the game brain and the full rounded skill set.

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Speaker 4: Right now.

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Speaker 3: He is dangerous.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's dangerous.

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Speaker 3: He's he's very dangerous.

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Speaker 5: This offense is great at getting the ball in their

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Speaker 4: And that's what on a chant.

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Speaker 2: That And I'm glad you mentioned that before we transition

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Speaker 2: to the other side of the ball. I think that's

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Speaker 2: the best way to describe it. They have square pegs

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Speaker 2: and round pegs on this Miami offense. They asked their

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Speaker 2: square pegs to do square peg stuff. Round pegs do

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Speaker 2: round peg stuff. It's very tailored to put their guys

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Speaker 2: in position to succeed. They don't have the best Jimmy's

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Speaker 3: They are like the You know, we were.

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Speaker 2: Laughing with Labs yesterday about that whole conversation of having

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Speaker 3: You haven't played anybody.

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Speaker 4: Than I thought it was.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a fair way to say it. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: One note though, is their defensive coordinator is Anthony Weaver's

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Speaker 5: Totally bummer. I mean, I hope it's total a lot

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Speaker 3: That'll do it for this. Uh, this five star Friday

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Speaker 2: When we come back on the other side, we are

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Speaker 4: It is we gain.

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Speaker 2: That road is narrow, Matt Williamson, and we'll discuss in

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Speaker 2: West Wheeler. Matt Williamson, it is the Drive on Steelers

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Speaker 2: Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network, your tunes.

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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, it is week fifteen across the National Football League.

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Speaker 3: Things are getting serious.

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Speaker 2: The road is narrowing and there are big games on

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Speaker 2: the docket now for just about everybody going forward every

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Speaker 4: That was find an interesting too.

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Speaker 5: It's fresh on my mind because last night of Who's

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Speaker 4: Too?

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Speaker 5: The guys that the teams have nothing to play for?

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Speaker 4: You know that kind of thing, you know, right.

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Speaker 2: You know something that I need to ask, Like, I

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Speaker 4: Maybe maybe like why.

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Speaker 2: Start next year this Saturday when college football season has

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Speaker 3: But let's ump into this week fifteen slate.

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Speaker 2: Of course, we did discuss earlier in the first hour

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Speaker 2: Let's take a look here now at Sunday's games Cleveland

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying he's like the answer or all of

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Speaker 4: I was so tired of talking about him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I do also have great respect for the

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Speaker 2: Eleven degrees in sunny in Chicago at one o'clock on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you. I don't like that seven and a half.

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Speaker 4: I mean neither. I thought it'd be like five and

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Speaker 2: If it's five and a half or six and a half,

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Speaker 2: that's what i'll take. I'll take that with Cleveland.

443
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 4: I don't know that Chicago just run all over them.

444
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,879
Speaker 2: Brown's defense is stout, as we all know. And I

445
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 2: think you're right there's a little momentum there or at

446
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,160
Speaker 2: least something to play for with Chador, I think that'll

447
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 2: be enough for Cleveland to keep it respectable.

448
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 5: So I think it's a four gone conclusion of Miles

449
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 5: Garrett's defensive player of the Year. I mean, like they

450
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 5: would have to like fall off the cliff. I mean, right,

451
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,200
Speaker 5: but I think Schwestioninger, their linebacker, could be defensive rookie

452
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:12,440
Speaker 5: ye right, yeah.

453
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 3: And he missed a few games earlier in the season.

454
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,360
Speaker 4: Nobody else really stepped up a really good player for them.

455
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to think but that, I.

456
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,920
Speaker 5: Mean, Abdul Carter's been kind of slow. I mean it's

457
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 5: a it's not a good ru.

458
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 3: Not a great rookie defensive class.

459
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 2: Now staying with a team from Ohio going into the

460
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 2: AFC North here and what could factor in to be

461
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,919
Speaker 2: a big one for the Steelers. If the Bengals are

462
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 2: able to sweep the Ravens this year, they will attempt

463
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,640
Speaker 2: to do so at home one o'clock at pay Course Stadium.

464
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 2: Tickets is low as just fourteen dollars. Wow, as Baltimore

465
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,160
Speaker 2: a two and a half point favorite in the Natty, you.

466
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 5: Think we should expect a lot of Ravens fans there, No, no.

467
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 3: Although when you go on the road, it's always a

468
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:58,119
Speaker 3: different story.

469
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,200
Speaker 4: Right, Let's make it a road trip. Let's go take

470
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 4: a weekend.

471
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and just think about it.

472
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 2: If you're a Baltimore Ravens fan that lives in Ohio

473
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 2: or Michigan or Indiana, yeah, you probably back in July,

474
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 2: plan to go to this game.

475
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 4: Right right now, and it's not as closed as obviously Pittsburgh.

476
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 4: It's a pretty good haul.

477
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 2: And that's kind of like similar for the Steelers. I

478
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 2: think even if the Steelers listen, folks, I'm gonna break

479
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 2: some news here, Okay, Yeah, one day again, the Steelers

480
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 2: will have a losing record time. Someday, one day again,

481
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 2: the Steelers will be bad and they'll pick in the

482
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 2: top ten or the top fifteen. It will happen again someday,

483
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 2: hopefully out anytime soon, but it'll happen again someday. So

484
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 2: if that were the case, if the Steelers in an

485
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 2: alternate universe right now, we're going to Miami, yeah, and

486
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,880
Speaker 2: the Steelers were instead of seven and six, they're three

487
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 2: and ten, there would still be a ton of Steelers

488
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 2: fans at that game, because you'd have all the Florida

489
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 2: Steelers fans that would have planned to go to that

490
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 2: game months ago, and we don't care. We only get

491
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 2: to see our team play every couple of years. We're

492
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 2: going and we're having fun, and we bought the tickets

493
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 2: and we got the parking pass and we reserved hotel

494
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 2: months ago.

495
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 5: Now, Miami, I'm not giving you a hard time, but

496
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 5: Miami isn't the best example, because a lot of people

497
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 5: go to Miami right now even though there's not a

498
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 5: game fair, you know what I mean, like nice place

499
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 5: to Baltimore to Cincy.

500
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 3: Nice place to escape this time of year.

501
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 5: It's not like I'm gonna bring my swim trunks to

502
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 5: Cincy from Baltimore, you know, all right?

503
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 3: You mean the weather Cincinnati isn't great.

504
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 4: Like the Great Winner Getaway. I don't want to make

505
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 4: this game.

506
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 5: I keep really looking into the Burrow comments heavily like

507
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 5: that to me is really bad Mojo, and he kind.

508
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 3: Of like double like went on the Pat McAfee show

509
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 3: and doubled down on it.

510
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 4: The other day, totally in on it.

511
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, and Higgins has been ruled out, But I'm not

512
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 5: all that impressed with Baltimore, and since he just beat them, I'm.

513
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 4: Sure Burrow will still play well. I mean, I don't

514
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 4: think he's like not interested anymore. It's two and a half, right.

515
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 3: I think I'm taking the points of Cincinnati game too.

516
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 4: In their building.

517
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 2: This is one that if I would try and tease

518
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 2: that up to three and a half, I'm I'm all

519
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 2: in for Cincinnati. I might try and get an extra

520
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 2: point there, just to cover the field goal.

521
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 5: But what's the pursuit. Always say, like, if you think

522
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 5: there's a good chance they win, you know, take the points.

523
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 5: You always take the points. And I think there's a

524
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 5: good chance they win.

525
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 2: Don't don't be greedy and get them on the money line.

526
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 2: Still take the points and just put a couple extra

527
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: shillings on it if you're that confident. But yeah, that's

528
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 2: gonna be an odd one with everything going on with

529
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, with what's going to be you know, probably

530
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 2: a stadium that's going to be seventy percent full.

531
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 3: You know, it won't be a.

532
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: Crazy, roucous crowd type atmosphere there, clearly by the ticket prices.

533
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 3: But I think I'm gonna take the points with Cincinnati.

534
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 3: I'd like to buy it up.

535
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 2: Another point, though, if I was really gonna put some

536
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 2: some action, some cheddar on this in Kansas City at Arrowhead,

537
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 2: maybe they are still technically Monty Python, They're not dead yet.

538
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 2: But if the Chiefs lose at home to the Chargers,

539
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 2: can we officially stick a fork into Matt Williamson.

540
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think all the tie breakers and stuff just

541
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 5: destroy them. AFC Division game.

542
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 2: They would need everybody else to lose out and they

543
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 2: would need to win out.

544
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 3: And then even then it's.

545
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 5: Still be like like a three percent or something crazy,

546
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 5: which wouldn't break my heart at all. Like I'm I'm

547
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 5: expecting Steers go to the playoffs. I'd love Mahomes not

548
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 5: to be one of the ones in the AFC field

549
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 5: be there.

550
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: Let's keep the Homes out of there, see Josh Allen

551
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 2: in the first round.

552
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 5: That being said, one week ago, I picked the Chiefs

553
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 5: to go and not the Chargers, and now that doesn't

554
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 5: look as good after the Chargers win, you know, last week,

555
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 5: and the Chiefs losing to Houston. I'm still going to

556
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,959
Speaker 5: bank on Kansas City here though. That spreads bigger than

557
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 5: I expect. I know it's bigger than I thought, but

558
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 5: I still don't believe in the Chargers.

559
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 4: Oh line.

560
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 3: I don't believe in the Chargers. Oh line. I don't

561
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 3: really believe in the Chargers with just how injured they

562
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 3: are everywhere I know, but five and a half is

563
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 3: up city.

564
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 2: I'm taking the points like I just straight up. I

565
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 2: think the Chiefs will find a way to win a

566
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: lower scoring, ugly one that over under and this is

567
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 2: only forty and a half. That's on the lower end

568
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 2: of things this weekend. By the way, the biggest biggest

569
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 2: over under by far is Baltimore in Cincinnati fifty one

570
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 2: and a half. So expecting some points.

571
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 5: I guess Bengals always have a hide. Yeah, it totally

572
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 5: adds up.

573
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna take the five and a half

574
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 2: with the Chargers. I think the Chiefs will win by

575
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 2: three or four, maybe even five.

576
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 3: I'll take the five and a half.

577
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 4: It wouldn't shock me. I wouldn't touch it with that's.

578
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, though, that's mister Grinch. Yeah, thirty

579
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 2: nine and a half foot Paul, I'm not touching it.

580
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 2: At Foxboro Stadium in Massachusetts, the Patriots, the Bills a

581
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 2: big one, and Buffalo looking to get some revenge against

582
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 2: a New England team that has not lost since mid

583
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 2: September when the Steelers were there, Buffalo a point and

584
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 2: a half favored on the road. Matt, when the Patriots

585
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 2: went to Buffalo back early in the season and shocked

586
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 2: everybody and beat the Bills, you and I both said,

587
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 2: I don't care what the spread is the next time

588
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 2: these teams play. I'm taking Buffalo. Is our energy matching

589
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 2: our commitment from a few months ago.

590
00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 4: Mine is not. Since then, since then, I bought the Patriots.

591
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 5: I mean, I really think May is a tremendous player

592
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 5: and yet another potentially elite AFC quarterback, which stinks for

593
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 5: the rest of the AFC teams that don't have one

594
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 5: team we're working for at the moment.

595
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 4: You know, for the long.

596
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 5: Term, how did the Patriots win. They're coming off of bye.

597
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 5: They they've played like the second or third most rookie snaps,

598
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 5: and I bet all those rookies loved the bye.

599
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 3: Love.

600
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 4: That is a long year. You know.

601
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 5: They played a lot of preseason. They played thirteen fourteen games.

602
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 2: Their career, their their football season was basically over unless

603
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 2: they were playing for Ohio State around Georgia, like.

604
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 5: We got four more games in playoffs, like, give me

605
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 5: a week off, And I don't know that Buffalo's great.

606
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 5: Will Buffalo run all over them like they did the Steelers?

607
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 5: Allen's playing great? I mean, I just think Buffalo has problems.

608
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 5: I don't think they're an elite team. I'm not saying that, Bat,

609
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 5: I agree with you on that. Yeah, I also think

610
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 5: it's going to be a rock and atmosphere.

611
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 2: Their second most points a most expensive get in price

612
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 2: of the weekend. The old add only ticket that's more

613
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: expensive is the Broncos hosting the Packers. Uh In in Denver.

614
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 2: Is the only get in price more expensive than this one.

615
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: I'm I'm laying the points of Buffalo. I just I

616
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 2: keep waiting, and it's a testament to them. It hasn't happened.

617
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: They are, without a doubt, a good team, a legitimate

618
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 2: threat in the AFC. But I keep waiting for like

619
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 2: the shoot to fall for the Patriots a little bit kind.

620
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 2: They're good, they're legit, they're a playoff team, but they're

621
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: not eleven and two good. They're not the Rams or

622
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: the Seahawks or and I just I.

623
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 4: Think up like an eight or nine win team.

624
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 2: Even as this is This is probably the fourth time

625
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 2: I've said this in the last seven or eight weeks.

626
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: But I just I think the Patriots are kind of

627
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: due for some medicine, for a little dose or reality,

628
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 2: And so I am with you. I don't think Buffalo

629
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 2: is elite. I don't think Buffalo is nearly as good

630
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: as we thought they were going to be coming into

631
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 2: this season. But I think Josh Allen will sprinkle some

632
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 2: faery dust up there in the middle of those neighborhoods

633
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: in Foxborough and Buffalo will find.

634
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 3: A way to win, wouldn't shock me?

635
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 4: Yeah?

636
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: Can I tell you I saw hilarious video I actually

637
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 2: meant to send this to you in TV.

638
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 3: It was like some.

639
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 2: Dude from Europe complaining about the World Cup, lying about

640
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: the stadium locations.

641
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 3: So it's basically like, look at this, Look at his stadium.

642
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 3: They say it's in Boston.

643
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: It's forty miles outside of Boston in the middle of

644
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 2: How am I supposed to get there?

645
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: Look at it? They say it's in San Francisco. It's

646
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 3: in Santa Clara, sixty miles away. How were we supposed to

647
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 3: get there?

648
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 4: I guess that's a pretty good complaint.

649
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 3: I was cracking up. I was cracking up. They say

650
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 3: it's in Dallas. It's not really in Dallas. It's eighteen

651
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 3: miles south and there's no public transportation. Good luck.

652
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we all supply it was another one.

653
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 3: Oh New York City. It's not in New York City.

654
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 4: It's not even this not even closed right right right?

655
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 3: And yeah our public transportation.

656
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 5: In downtown New York or downtown State of Manhattan.

657
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 3: And you're from you know, Argent Pina.

658
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 4: How am I going to get there? Right?

659
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 3: Without paying? That's like if we flew dollars for an

660
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 3: Uberg good luck.

661
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 4: Like we flew into Dublin and the game was in

662
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 4: the side of the country, but.

663
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 2: It's actually it's actually in Killarney. But at least they

664
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 2: have public transportation as they get you there.

665
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, Well that's actually a really good I.

666
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: Was cracking I meant to send it to you and

667
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 2: TV a few days ago, and I just remembered, like

668
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 2: how they go to the only one of these stadiums

669
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: that are actually in their cities, and like Philadelphia speaking

670
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: of MetLife Stadium, not in New York City. It's an

671
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: East brother for New Jersey. The Giants host the Commanders,

672
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 2: two teams that are kind of Cancun on three here, Matt,

673
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 2: I don't think I don't think this one will inspire

674
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: much greatness on Sunday afternoon. But the Giants are two

675
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: and a half point favorites at home over Washington.

676
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 5: It seems like a lot over anybody. Mariotas played pretty well,

677
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 5: that was my thing, but boy, Washington's defense is so

678
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 5: bad right now. I'm gonna take the Giants off a bye.

679
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 5: I assumed darts Back.

680
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,959
Speaker 2: I think the Buye is the kicker there. Yeah, I

681
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: think Washington will look a little bit better than they

682
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 2: did last week. But you're right, Giants are off the

683
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 2: by dart Back. I think that'll be enough for them

684
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: to get it done.

685
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 4: But yuck. I kind of wanted to pick against both

686
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 4: those teams.

687
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 2: Tickets is low as just thirteen dollars at MetLife Stadium.

688
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: I promise you they'll be much more expensive to that

689
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: when the World Cup rolls into town in June. In Philadelphia,

690
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett seems like he is going to get the

691
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: go as Gino Smith is still not practiced this week

692
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: with that shoulder injury. The Eagles, my goodness, second largest

693
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: spread of the weekend, no part of me third largest

694
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: eleven and a half point. There's some big, chunky spreads

695
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,479
Speaker 2: here when we get into some of these later. Now

696
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: Eagles are eleven and a half point favorites in a

697
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: game that is only thirty eight points over and under

698
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: Matt Vegas expecting Philadelphia to rolla Vegas expecting Philadelphia.

699
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 4: To roll Vegas.

700
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 3: H do you concur eleven and a half. That's a

701
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 3: big number.

702
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 4: It's a big number, but cross cusher. It's a one

703
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 4: o'clock game, two o'clock, yep.

704
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 5: And I can't I can't take the Raiders against anybody.

705
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 3: Same.

706
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Eagles offense is kind of broken.

707
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: Though it is, but this is also one of those

708
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: spots where it feels like a good team beats up

709
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: on a bat. You know, we've been getting crushed in

710
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: the media and buy our fan base for this past week.

711
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: We just, you know, we felt like we gave one

712
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: away on Monday Night Football against the Chargers. We're gonna

713
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 2: come back and we're gonna Max Starks barbecue chicken this

714
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 2: bad team.

715
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 4: And said, I just can't pick the Raiders. They're such

716
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 4: a bad game.

717
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: And I with Philadelphia right now, I hate the idea

718
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 2: of laying eleven and a half points to This is

719
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: another mister Grinch game. Stay away from it with a

720
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: thirty nine and a half foot pole, But I will

721
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: lay the eleven and.

722
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 5: A half Philly scored on defense or something like that.

723
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: Sure, Jacksonville hosts the Jets. Big one for the Jags

724
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: as they look to continue to stay firmly in the

725
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 2: division lead and playoff race. They are biggest spread of

726
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 2: the weekend. Matt tied with Seattle for biggest spread of

727
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 2: the weekend thirteen and a half points at home the Jets.

728
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 5: I really liked how the Jets have played despite not

729
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 5: having any talent until last week. I mean, Miami had

730
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 5: no problems with them whatsoever. They just announced Cook is

731
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 5: going to start again for the Jets.

732
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 4: Who Yeah, I forget his first name.

733
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 3: That's what I mean.

734
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 2: When when Matt When when a team signs a guy

735
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: or starts a guy and Matt Williamson goes.

736
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 3: I don't think I even know much about him, right,

737
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 3: That's when you really know.

738
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 4: I can't take the Jets. Jags are playing really well.

739
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 4: That's such a big number.

740
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: Though, this is another one I'm just staying away from

741
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: I just want no part of it. But if you

742
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: made me choose, I think I would lay the points

743
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 2: with Jacksonville because, yeah, Jets, just.

744
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 4: That was miserable what they did yesterday.

745
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had a few weeks of life there after

746
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 2: the trade.

747
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 4: They did did some decent things, but I think it

748
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 4: was a tyrod.

749
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: And I think they're back to Cancun on three now,

750
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: and hey, nice a nice sunny day in Jacksonville might

751
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 2: might only add to that. In Houston, another big one

752
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: in the AFC South. There, big one for Jacksonville, big

753
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 2: one for Houston. They host the Arizona Cardinals. They're a

754
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 2: big number two, nine and a half point favorites at

755
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 2: home are the Texans.

756
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 5: I think Arizona's cast it into like Marvin's I'll playing again,

757
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 5: bring Benson.

758
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 3: Ben like a lot of guys.

759
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of guys I thought probably could play.

760
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 5: They don't seem I think Arizona's pretty excited about getting

761
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 5: a good draft pick. I love how Houston's playing. They

762
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 5: don't beat I mean, they're a defensive minded team. So

763
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 5: I bet the over unders not super high, and I

764
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 5: hate taking you know, big favorites with low over unders.

765
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 5: I just don't know where Arizona's at. I don't like

766
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 5: their headspace right now.

767
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 3: Say I'm with you, that's a big number, but it

768
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 3: is not big numbers.

769
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: If this one was like thirteen and a half, i'd

770
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: probably I'd probably lay them. I'd probably take or sorry,

771
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 2: I'd probably take the points with Arizona. But at nine

772
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 2: and a half.

773
00:34:58,760 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll lay them.

774
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll lay them.

775
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 2: Did you see the funny video with the Texans owner

776
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: that they put out today? So it was Sunday night

777
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 2: football they played last week against the Chiefs.

778
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, if I'm remembering correctly.

779
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: There was a funny clip from the end of that

780
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 2: game where CJ.

781
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 3: Stroud was kind of walking off the.

782
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: Field and waving to the fans and celebrating, and the

783
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 2: owner of the Texans was on the sideline at Arrowhead Stadium,

784
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: but he was like wearing a hat and a jacket,

785
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 2: was kind of bundled up and CJ. Stroud just in

786
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 2: the chaos and waving to the fans and the owner

787
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 2: wearing a you know, a hat and a jacket. The

788
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 2: owner was like hand out trying to high five CJ.

789
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: And CJ didn't see him. And so it's the classic,

790
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 2: you know, like the like a guy that's just standing

791
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: there with his hand up, like you get left hanging.

792
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: They put out a video on social media that was

793
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,479
Speaker 2: like the owner came into the office in Houston, still

794
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 2: dressed like in his winter outfit with his hand up

795
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 2: and was like walking around like anybody's seen, CJ.

796
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: Anybody seen. It was pretty fun.

797
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 4: That's good.

798
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 3: It was pretty good. In Denver.

799
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 2: The owner off, you can you can't blow the owner off,

800
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 2: Come on, mate in Denver. The most expensive ticket of

801
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 2: the weekend if you want to sit in those bleeds,

802
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 2: two hundred and eighty five dollars just to get in

803
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: as the Broncos host the Packers, one of the more

804
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: intriguing games in this week fifteen slate at Mile High Stadium.

805
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: Denver's actually a home dog the Packers. Yeah, favored by

806
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 2: two and a half points.

807
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 5: I think this one super interesting and it doesn't even

808
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 5: mean that much because it's an AFC NFC match.

809
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 3: And they're most likely both going to the playoffs. Yeah

810
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 3: both but safe.

811
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 2: You know you're right if like, other than the Steelers

812
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: obviously for our jobs, this is probably this sort of

813
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 2: the Patriots Bills game is probably like the proverbial.

814
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 3: Other game that I would most like to watch, ye

815
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 3: Rams Lions.

816
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 5: I'd put it there too. That's also an interesting We'll

817
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 5: get to that one. So I think this is going

818
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 5: to be very low scoring. I think both defenses are

819
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 5: really good. I know Denver's is really good. Green Bays

820
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 5: has gotten better and better better. Yeah, and I don't

821
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 5: love and I think clearly Denver's offense is the worst

822
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 5: unit of the four. I'm a little shocked at the

823
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 5: spread though, And I don't think Denver can win the

824
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 5: Super Bowl, and I think green Bay can. I think

825
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 5: they're a better team. And maybe I'm overthinking this, but

826
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 5: if this is gonna be a tight game, green Bay

827
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 5: only plays in Denver once every eight years.

828
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 4: I mean, that's an.

829
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 5: Awful place to play, especially in the second half when

830
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 5: you're sucking wind, and if you're in a tight dog fight,

831
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 5: I'm taking the points at home. I mean, is Jordan

832
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 5: Love ever played in altitude like that? Or I mean

833
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 5: most of these guys are probably never played.

834
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 2: I bet you Jordan Love, I bet you Jordan Loved

835
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 2: maybe College.

836
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 3: LA and then some of those Pac twelve elevations.

837
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 4: Played the UTAs State. So he played in the Mountains.

838
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 3: Or Utah State. Why am I thinking UCLA? He played

839
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 3: at Uta Stybe.

840
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 4: He's not the best example.

841
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 3: He played he played in the But yes, Green Bay

842
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 3: never goes there. I know what you're saying, though, it's

843
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: a different environment. The cold.

844
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: I'm looking here at the altitude to be sixty degrees

845
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 2: in sunny actually, so maybe not that cold, but the

846
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: altitude is that's a pike game, I think, especially this

847
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 2: time of year. To Yeah, it gets to the altitude

848
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 2: in early October, when you're not beat down by playing

849
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 2: thirteen fourteen games already at that point, it can be

850
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: a little bit of a different story.

851
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 5: If you talk to players that don't play there, often

852
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 5: it takes them aback, like, oh man, you don't acclimate

853
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 5: in a day or whatever.

854
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: This is a tough one because Denver's a weird evaol.

855
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 2: They are, They're a weird evail. I don't really trust

856
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 2: the offense much at all, but I think the defense

857
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: is very good. I think it might be the second

858
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 2: best defense in the NFL after Houston. I'm with you

859
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: in your thought part process that the Packers, like, if

860
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 2: I had to pick one of these teams to win

861
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, it would definitely be Green Bay.

862
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 4: At some point, I'm gonna look at what are NFC

863
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 4: records in Denver. I bet they're bad.

864
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 3: It's a good one.

865
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 4: I mean, I know early season in Denver's really bad,

866
00:38:58,920 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 4: really bad.

867
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 3: Really is winning there in Week two? Was that last

868
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 3: year year before.

869
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 4: Last year ago? There was not quite in shape, big.

870
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 2: Deal and hey, maybe you know bow Knicks playing in

871
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 2: just his second start in the National Football League was

872
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 2: part of that. You get him at the right time.

873
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely was.

874
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 3: I don't like I think I'm gonna lay the points, though.

875
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 2: I I just something about Green Bay to me has

876
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 2: felt like they've kind of flipped the switch a little bit.

877
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 4: Oh, I think so. I'm a Green Bay believer.

878
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 3: They've won a lot of close games against good teams lately.

879
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 5: Guys like Christian Watson have really stepped up, and Jayden

880
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 5: Reed is back.

881
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 4: I'm a green Bay believer. I just because it's why

882
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 4: I'm doing the other I.

883
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 3: Think I'm gonna lay the points.

884
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: I think I I think I'll take the Packers minus

885
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: two and a half. Bronco is another one of those

886
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: teams kind of similar to New England. I think that

887
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: they're really good, but I think they've been getting away

888
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 2: with it a little bit too.

889
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 3: I don't think.

890
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 5: I don't know if like they're due for one above them,

891
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 5: I do.

892
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you on that.

893
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 4: Here was a Super Bowl, I would pick the Packers.

894
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, if it's if it's a neutral sight in San

895
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 2: Francisco or something and the weather's not going to play

896
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 2: a factor. Here's another great one, Matt at beautiful Sofi

897
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: Stadium in Southern California, the Rams hosts the Lions. A

898
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: big one for the Rams in the sense of trying

899
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: to win the division and get that first round by

900
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 2: A big one for Detroit in the sense of trying

901
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 2: to stay in the wild card hunt. This is a

902
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 2: massive one for both of these teams for different reasons

903
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 2: of playoff implications. The Rams six point favorites at home

904
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: against Detroit. That's a big number.

905
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 5: I think the numbers too big. I think the Rams

906
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 5: are the best team in the league. Have nothing negative

907
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 5: to say about them. It's just a desperate Campbell coached,

908
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 5: nasty team.

909
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 3: How often are you going to get the Dan Campbell

910
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 3: Detroit Lions plus six?

911
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 5: That's what I mean when they absolutely have to have it,

912
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 5: And I don't know if This is true, but it

913
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 5: seems like since the Golf Stafford trade they've played against

914
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 5: each other several times. I know there's a playoff game,

915
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 5: so there's some familiarity there. Again, I have nothing bad

916
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 5: to say about the ram I think they're tremendous. It's

917
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 5: just I don't know that it's the best home field

918
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 5: advantage of in the league.

919
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: Oh, I can tell you someone who's been someone who's

920
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 3: been there twice. It is not.

921
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 4: I'm sure it's not, and I'm sure there'll be some Lions.

922
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 3: In fact, it's one of the worst.

923
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll take the points. I don't think they win,

924
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 5: but I'll take the point.

925
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: I don't think Detroit wins, but I think that they

926
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 2: keep it closer than six.

927
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, well every seven, So.

928
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 5: They're gonna go for it on every fourth. They're gonna,

929
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 5: I mean, they're gonna do anything it takes.

930
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: Rams win.

931
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 2: But by three or four, give me the Lions plus

932
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 2: six to cover A big one for the Carolina Panthers

933
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 2: in New Orleans. Carolina suddenly in the lead in the

934
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: NFC South New Orleans playing a little bit better and

935
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: you know, not rolling over and taking it down the

936
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: stretch here despite their poor record and not having much

937
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: to play for tickets as low as just twelve dollars

938
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 2: lowis get in price of the week of any of

939
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: these games at the Superdome, where Carolina is a two

940
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 2: and a half point road.

941
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 5: Favorite, Carolina is gonna be looking their shops and they're

942
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 5: coming off a bye and they're a physical team. I

943
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 5: just don't know if they're good. I don't think they are.

944
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 5: They're good, I just don't think they are. And I

945
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 5: think New Orleans is still playing hard and Shuck's done

946
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 5: some good things, kind of like the should or Sanders

947
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 5: conversation we had and the NFL just just when you

948
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 5: think like we got them where we want them, I

949
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 5: just have to have this easy win in New Orleans

950
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 5: and then I got the division by the short ones.

951
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 4: It's like.

952
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 5: The Saints just end up winning, you know, the rivalry

953
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 5: game at home. Division spoiler. I'm taking the Saints, and

954
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 5: it's just a hunch.

955
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: I completely agree with you, But I'm gonna lay the

956
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 2: points with Carolina better than the Saints. If it was

957
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: three and a half, I think I'd take the points

958
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: with New Orleans at two and a half. All they

959
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 2: got to do is win by a field goal. I'm

960
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: gonna go Panthers. We are going long winded here. Let's

961
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 2: let's run through these last couple ones. In San Francisco,

962
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 2: Tennessee their second biggest spread of the weekend, nine ers

963
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 2: twelve and a half point favorites over the Titans at home.

964
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 4: It's a ton of points. But I guess I'll take

965
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 4: the Niners.

966
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 3: I think so. Yeah, I just can't do Tennessee any

967
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 3: benefit of the death.

968
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 4: Like the Raider conversation, Matt if.

969
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: I would have told you a couple months ago that

970
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 2: when the Colts go to Seattle in December, they're gonna

971
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 2: be thirteen and a half point dogs.

972
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 4: Do we know the storting quarterback's gonna be?

973
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 2: It sounds like it's gonna be Philip Rivers, I assumed, so.

974
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 2: It sounds like it's gonna be Philip Rivers. According to

975
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: all the reporting.

976
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 3: Thirteen and a half point favorites on the Colts too,

977
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 3: at one point had the best record in the NFL,

978
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 3: and where the story of the year. It's a big number.

979
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 3: Can they keep it closer than two touchdowns?

980
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 4: I think so. I mean, I'm gonna expect him to

981
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 4: at least do smart things at the line of scrimmage.

982
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 4: That's where I'm and hand the ball to Taylor a

983
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 4: million times and try to shorten.

984
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 3: The game, lose by eleven or twelve.

985
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 4: I don't think they'll win.

986
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 3: It'll be one of those like the result is never

987
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 3: in doubt.

988
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 5: I'm not worried if I'm Seattle. But that's a lot

989
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 5: of points. I mean, the Colts are a talented team,

990
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 5: and I don't think right.

991
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 2: Like, that's the type of spread that Seattle wouldn't need

992
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 2: to score a defensive touchdown or two, which we've seen

993
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 2: them do plenty. But I think the one thing Philip

994
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: Rivers is going to do is take care of the ball.

995
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 4: I would think, give it to Taylor and over and

996
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 4: over away.

997
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 2: Throw it to the popcorn vendor in the tenth row

998
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: if there's nothing there. Last one, in prime time, the

999
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 2: Cowboys host the Vikings. Still for Dallas playoff implications is,

1000
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 2: as you know, as far down as their odds may be,

1001
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 2: they do still have something to play for, and they

1002
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 2: are five and a half point favorites at home over Minnesota.

1003
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 5: Give me Dallas, but I don't feel strong about it.

1004
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 5: I mean, Minnesot's coming off a pretty good outing as

1005
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 5: is McCarthy and kind of rooting for him. Everyone's just

1006
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 5: kind of like kicked them into his grave already. But

1007
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,439
Speaker 5: Dallas is better on their best day, for sure.

1008
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 2: I agree, And they've had the long week to get

1009
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: ready for it.

1010
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 4: Yeah. Same with Detroit. I wanted to mention that too.

1011
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that game and Dallas got The one thing I

1012
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 2: think you can count on for the Cowboys is to

1013
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 2: embarrass themselves when they're getting all the credit in the world,

1014
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 2: and then to respond after they like they did a

1015
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 2: roller coaster.

1016
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 4: Things like Pickens might have won sixty, you know, like.

1017
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 2: Everyone dumps on them, and then for three or four

1018
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: weeks they look like the hottest team in the league,

1019
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 2: and then every one's stinging their praises and then they

1020
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 2: go out and lay an egg. I expect them to respond.

1021
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: I'll lay those points as well too. We'll give Steelers

1022
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 2: thoughts and predictions before we get up out of here.

1023
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 2: On the other side, West Yuler, Matt Williamson, It's the

1024
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 2: Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

1025
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,040
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1026
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal.

1027
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 4: Steelers Nation Radio.

1028
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: Final segment here on a Friday, and with the game

1029
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 2: time on Monday and our responsibilities and our duties and everything,

1030
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 2: we will not have a.

1031
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 3: This This will be our last show before kickoffs. Basically

1032
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 3: is all that I'm trying.

1033
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 5: To Tom and iight for though, is when we come on.

1034
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 2: You and Tom will be on it for four Yeah,

1035
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 2: there will be a lot of other, you know, stuff

1036
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: going on between now and then, but yes, our coverage

1037
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 2: will aren't at four fifteen fifteen game four hours ahead

1038
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: of time on DVE. You'll have Matt and Tom for

1039
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 2: two hours, which we'll roll right into pursuita du Lac

1040
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: and the Dean of Doom himself, Bob Labriola, for a

1041
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 2: two hour pregame show leading up to kickoff at eight

1042
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: fifteen Steelers Dolphins, Big one for the Steelers and Miami,

1043
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 2: you know, suddenly with a lot of pride and not

1044
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 2: necessarily something to play for, but they've been playing for

1045
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 2: reputation jobs.

1046
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 4: They're not eliminated.

1047
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: There they are, you know, not a cankun on three team.

1048
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: I think as we all assumed they would be.

1049
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 5: I should have mentioned slier in the week, but it

1050
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 5: blows me away. The Chiefs and Dolphins have the same

1051
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 5: record insane.

1052
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 3: Absolutely insane.

1053
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 2: If you would have taught us that before the season,

1054
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 2: I'd be like, oh, wow, so the Dolphins really had

1055
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 2: a good year. The Dolphins won like double digit games.

1056
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 5: If he told me that after the first month, I'd

1057
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 5: be like, what did Mahomes get hurt?

1058
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: You know?

1059
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 4: Right?

1060
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 2: The Indy Reid retire and at the middle of the season,

1061
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 2: Matt Steelers after being Dawn is a couple weeks in

1062
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: a row. Here three and a half point favorites part

1063
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 2: of me three point just three, three flat three point

1064
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: favorites Monday Night against Miami.

1065
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 4: I guess Steelers twenty three seventeen.

1066
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 5: I hate this Watt news, but I definitely think there's

1067
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 5: something to Miami and weather Steelers on Monday Night. I

1068
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 5: don't have a lot of respect for Miami's defense, to

1069
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 5: be honest with you, but Miami's running.

1070
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 4: Game scares the heck out of me.

1071
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 5: Right now, I'm hoping Harmon's back with that that prediction,

1072
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 5: you know, we're.

1073
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 3: That's a very key indicator.

1074
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 5: We have one less day and one less practice report

1075
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 5: to do our predictions, you know what I mean. And

1076
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 5: I'm hoping and I'm assuming he's going to be back,

1077
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 5: which is big.

1078
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 2: I'm going another weird one. I'm going Steelers twenty three

1079
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: Miami nineteen. That's gonna be my That's gonna be my

1080
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 2: score prediction for Monday Night. Not the prettiest, you know,

1081
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 2: most aesthetic, sexy victory performance for the Steelers, but I

1082
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 2: think they just I think they got enough veterans, enough

1083
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: dudes to get it done in a tight spot. Uh.

1084
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 3: You know, the Dolphins will blink first and.

1085
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 2: Hope, so yeah, make them make the mistake or the

1086
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: Steelers will make the play. That is that is the

1087
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 2: difference in this one. I think another another big spot

1088
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 2: for Aaron Rodgers.

1089
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 4: I think Rogers keeps his momentum going.

1090
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: I think he keeps his momentum going national TV spot, right,

1091
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 2: He's probably looking at this like, hey, like other than

1092
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: the playoffs, you know, this is going to be one

1093
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 2: of those few opportunities I have the rest of the

1094
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 2: way to really be at the center of attention. And

1095
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: him and the Steelers group in general have typically played

1096
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 2: very well in those type of situations.

1097
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 5: They have and I don't I'm not saying they're great players,

1098
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 5: but MVS and especially theel and I think.

1099
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 4: Will be where they're supposed to be details.

1100
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, details, you know, uh, the stuff

1101
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: that maybe Roman Wilson was lacking for Aaron Rodgers in

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Speaker 2: that regard and is why you've turned to the veterans,

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Speaker 2: and I think they will be very buttoned up on

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Speaker 2: Monday night.

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Speaker 3: There it is.

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Speaker 2: There's our shows for the week. There's our predictions for Monday.

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Speaker 2: A big thanks to all our guests this week. Big

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Speaker 2: shout out to Missy Matthews for joining us today. Big

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Speaker 2: thanks to mister TV Tyler V himself. A big thanks

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Speaker 2: to tell me once again the name of the company

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Speaker 2: that's center year. Yeah, Yin's er gear for the cool

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Speaker 2: coffee mugs and T shirt.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm pre psyched for our S and R drive here.

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Speaker 2: Now Matt and I just have to figure out where

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Speaker 2: we're hiding those things for the rest of the well,

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Speaker 2: I guess for you know, going forward in perpetuity here

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Speaker 2: as we'll continue to rock and roll on the drive

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Speaker 2: throughout the year for Matt Williamson throughout the year, throughout

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Speaker 2: again perpetuity. Just sign off, you'll learn get out of

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Speaker 2: here on a Friday for Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 3: I'm west Shuler.

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Speaker 2: Take care, everybody, enjoy the weekend and we will be

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Speaker 2: back win loser draw on Tuesday to break it all

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Speaker 2: down with you. As always, you know where to find us.

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Speaker 2: It's on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 2: Black and Gold. It's Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers

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