Speaker 1: What's that at the bed. It's spooky, Hey jooky, I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I'm ghosted, hirass.
Speaker 3: Hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome to another listener
Speaker 3: phone call Extravaganza. I love doing these episodes and I
Speaker 3: hope to do some, you know, early January or something.
Speaker 3: So as always, if you have a ghost story, maybe
Speaker 3: you have a little bit of time over the holidays.
Speaker 3: If you want to send me an email, do it
Speaker 3: to ghosted by Raz at gmail dot com. I'm put
Speaker 3: in the subject line listener episode. I week have been
Speaker 3: just ghosted away and talking to so many different people
Speaker 3: for some upcoming episodes. I'm thrilled for the beginning of
Speaker 3: the year on this podcast, and I'll just tell you
Speaker 3: who I have because I can give you if you know,
Speaker 3: if you're looking for things again over the holidays, you're
Speaker 3: looking for a good thing to watch, a good thing
Speaker 3: to read, I can I can help you.
Speaker 1: Out here, Okay.
Speaker 3: I first up in the beginning of the year have
Speaker 3: on winner of RuPaul's Drag Race, Jink's mom soon on
Speaker 3: the show, and Jinks has become kind of alongside Ben
Speaker 3: de la creme of RuPaul's drag Race. The two of
Speaker 3: them have become like the queens of Christmas this year
Speaker 3: and you can actually see them in a couple of
Speaker 3: different things. They did their own holiday special which is
Speaker 3: so fun and absolutely gorgeous, and if you want to
Speaker 3: watch it, it's at Jinxandela dot com. And they also
Speaker 3: happen to make an appearance in this movie that everyone's
Speaker 3: talking about. It's on Hulu called The Happiest Season, starring
Speaker 3: Kristen Stewart and truly an all star cast.
Speaker 1: I mean Aubrey.
Speaker 3: Plaza, Alison Bree, Victor Garber. The two of them make
Speaker 3: a little cameo in that. So that's pretty fun for
Speaker 3: the holidays. And then okay, so then after I have
Speaker 3: on Jinks, I also will be having in January. Amy Brune.
Speaker 3: Now I know that a lot of you know who
Speaker 3: Amy Brune is. She is huge in the paranormal investigating
Speaker 3: TV world and she is the star of the TV
Speaker 3: show Kindred Spirits. We also might know her from ghost Hunters,
Speaker 3: and she has a book out that is so current.
Speaker 3: It is so current that she even wrote it in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty and she references all the craziness that's going
Speaker 3: on with the pandemic. And the book is called Life
Speaker 3: with the Afterlife Thirteen Truths. I learned about ghosts and
Speaker 3: I loved it, and so we talked and I had
Speaker 3: a ton of questions. And I'm very proud of both
Speaker 3: my Jinks and Amy episodes. And they're both so loaded
Speaker 3: that they're also going to be likely two part episodes.
Speaker 3: We'll see, but there's just a lot going on with
Speaker 3: them now. I have told you guys that I will
Speaker 3: not be able to do regular episodes for next week
Speaker 3: or the next week. That's why I'm talking about January now.
Speaker 3: But on Patreon, I have got some pretty cool conversations.
Speaker 3: I'm doing, like some pretty you know, full length about
Speaker 3: the length of a podcast.
Speaker 1: A typical episode.
Speaker 3: There will be EVPs, there will be storees. On Christmas Eve,
Speaker 3: I'm talking to my friend Tammy M. Chavez, who is
Speaker 3: a paranormal investigator. Actually met her at that place, the
Speaker 3: Omen House, and she is out there doing the paranormal investigating,
Speaker 3: particularly here in Hollywood, and she's been making tiktoks. You
Speaker 3: can find her at Hollyweird Paranormal and she's just she's
Speaker 3: really fun and she knows what she's talking about. So
Speaker 3: you could hear that on Patreon, on my second tier,
Speaker 3: and then on New Year's Eve, my friend mister Malone,
Speaker 3: who is He does automatic pen writing, you know, a
Speaker 3: type of channeling, and he can communicate with the dead
Speaker 3: and he's had a ton of experiences and he's a
Speaker 3: fun person. You might know him if you listen to
Speaker 3: Straight Talk with Ross Matthews the podcast. He's on there
Speaker 3: as a regular and I really enjoy him. And so
Speaker 3: you could hear that conversation on my second tier of
Speaker 3: Patreon and on Patreon. I'm gonna keep making videos every
Speaker 3: single Tuesday.
Speaker 1: This week I did.
Speaker 3: Another little video around my home and showed you some
Speaker 3: of my weird taste and the things that I love
Speaker 3: so much in my home. And you know what, having
Speaker 3: weird taste is better than having no taste, That's what
Speaker 3: I say. So go check that out if you're interested.
Speaker 3: But from what I heard, people really enjoyed seeing my
Speaker 3: living room last week, so I'll give you a little
Speaker 3: bit more of that. All right, Well, this Listener episode,
Speaker 3: we've got some good stories. We got some beginning middle,
Speaker 3: it ends, and on Patreon. The bonus clip this week
Speaker 3: is actually two different little stories. I've got one from
Speaker 3: Ryan where we talk about since I do know o
Speaker 3: Ryan a little bit. We were actually on Zoom that
Speaker 3: night that I had an earthquake a couple months ago,
Speaker 3: and so we talked about that together. And I had
Speaker 3: on Paul, who on Patreon this week is telling us
Speaker 3: about a real spooky dream situation that he had at
Speaker 3: one point. So go listen to that, and I'm ready
Speaker 3: to just start the show. I don't know about you.
Speaker 3: Let's hear some ghost stories on with the show there's
Speaker 3: a ghost in my house. Hello, I am joined by
Speaker 3: Ryan in Chicago.
Speaker 1: How are you.
Speaker 2: I'm fantastic.
Speaker 3: I hear you got some ghost stories? Which one should
Speaker 3: we talk about? What's the first one? What's the first
Speaker 3: ghost story that ever happened to you? Or supernatural paranormal phenomena?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I would say that it started when I
Speaker 2: was a child growing up in Central Illinois. I would
Speaker 2: wake up in my bed at night and just kind
Speaker 2: of be frozen. But at the end of my bed
Speaker 2: would always be this dark cloaked figure that would just
Speaker 2: stand there at the very end of my bed, and
Speaker 2: like I couldn't move, I couldn't speak, I couldn't do anything.
Speaker 3: Now when you say this, how detailed are we talking?
Speaker 3: Like does it did it look like like you could
Speaker 3: almost be like, oh my god, that's a human with
Speaker 3: like a party City Grim Reaper costume on. Or was
Speaker 3: it like more misty or what do you think?
Speaker 2: It just you know, honestly, it was just it honestly
Speaker 2: looked like if you just took a black a big
Speaker 2: black cloak and just like put it over a human body.
Speaker 2: That's basically it look like it really didn't have a
Speaker 2: lot of features and like I didn't see a face,
Speaker 2: but it just like you knew there was just something
Speaker 2: standing at the end of the bed. And this happens
Speaker 2: to me every time I would move, like my parents
Speaker 2: moved a few times. But every time I would move,
Speaker 2: like not too long after you know, we had moved,
Speaker 2: I would wake up in the same scenario would happen
Speaker 2: that it would just stand there at the end of
Speaker 2: my bed. It never moved, It never came any closer.
Speaker 2: It just stood in my bed, and it would it
Speaker 2: would feel like hours. I would just have to stare
Speaker 2: and look at this thinking like oh my god, like
Speaker 2: what's going to happen? Is it going to do something,
Speaker 2: and it was never it always felt like it wanted
Speaker 2: to do something or it had like bad intentions. So
Speaker 2: this kind of just followed me through my life.
Speaker 1: And then but it.
Speaker 3: Seemed like it was just still or did it seem
Speaker 3: like it was like as if like if a human
Speaker 3: was standing at your bed, it would like kind of
Speaker 3: breathe a little, it might move a little at a time,
Speaker 3: or was just like still staring.
Speaker 2: Oh, very just still, like it was just almost like
Speaker 2: waiting for me to make a move, or waiting for
Speaker 2: me to move so it would make a move. So
Speaker 2: then I just felt so frozen, like I couldn't do
Speaker 2: anything because if I did, then it would attack or something.
Speaker 2: And so I just felt like I had to stay
Speaker 2: so still. And so when I moved finally to college
Speaker 2: to Chicago, I got my first apartment and I had
Speaker 2: two roommates that I moved in with, and you know,
Speaker 2: it was a very kind of like new experience living
Speaker 2: on my own and a new big city and everything,
Speaker 2: and so you know, it was kind of an emotional time.
Speaker 2: And so I remember going to bed it was like
Speaker 2: the this time was like the first night, and I
Speaker 2: woke up and it felt almost like it was like
Speaker 2: beginning of a new day or something like the sun
Speaker 2: was just coming up or something. And I didn't see
Speaker 2: anything at the time at the end of my bed,
Speaker 2: but I looked over on my wall to the right
Speaker 2: of me, and there was a cross on my wall,
Speaker 2: which was strange because I did not bring across with
Speaker 2: me or anything. And the cross on the wall started
Speaker 2: to shape and tremble, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: out of each end of the cross, a new cross
Speaker 2: formed and it just started spreading across the wall as if,
Speaker 2: like I don't know, like a virus or something, and
Speaker 2: it was going all over and that freaked me out.
Speaker 2: And then I looked over and there it was. It
Speaker 2: was back. It was in this new space of mine
Speaker 2: that I'd moved to, but this time it didn't just
Speaker 2: stand still at the end of my bed. It actually
Speaker 2: started to move, and it moved to the left of me,
Speaker 2: and it came right up to me and it started
Speaker 2: like moving out its arm or hand or whatever it had. Again,
Speaker 2: you do, you couldn't see any detail. All you could
Speaker 2: see was a lifting of this like cloak, and it
Speaker 2: put its arm over my arm. And I just remember
Speaker 2: being so scared because of course, this thing has always
Speaker 2: scared me. It's always followed me, but it's never moved,
Speaker 2: it's never done anything.
Speaker 1: And so were you frozen like before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. I was just like and part of it.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was like frozen out of
Speaker 2: fear or fro or like, actually my body couldn't move.
Speaker 2: I just remember feeling like I couldn't I couldn't move anything,
Speaker 2: and so I couldn't like get up, I couldn't run,
Speaker 2: I couldn't do anything. And so it finally it put
Speaker 2: its like whatever on my arm and then that was it.
Speaker 2: And then I just remember kind of like blacking out
Speaker 2: waking up a little while later. But when I did,
Speaker 2: my arm on the left side was like red all over.
Speaker 2: And I have no idea why. I have no idea
Speaker 2: what happened, but I felt like it it had had
Speaker 2: like finally made contact and.
Speaker 3: It's like a horror movie. This is like a conjuring
Speaker 3: ree to me out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was terrifying. And honestly, after that experience, you know,
Speaker 2: I started having weird things happen and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: And then in this particular apartment that I moved to,
Speaker 2: which is a whole nother story which was haunted in itself.
Speaker 2: I one night was in my living room and we
Speaker 2: were like eleven stories up and you could look across
Speaker 2: the street and there was like a new building being constructed,
Speaker 2: a huge tower, but it was like in its initial phases,
Speaker 2: so it was very much just like you know, open
Speaker 2: sea through floors and everything. But one night I looked
Speaker 2: across the street and there again was the cloaked figure
Speaker 2: just standing there just oh almost like staring in like watching,
Speaker 2: And that really freaked me out. And I was living
Speaker 2: at that point with my boyfriend, and you know, I
Speaker 2: told him and he's like, yeah, right, you know, like
Speaker 2: he didn't really ever have anything happen. He didn't have
Speaker 2: any supernatural things happen to him, so he just kind
Speaker 2: of like you know, shrugged it off. And I was like, Okay, sure,
Speaker 2: you know, another one of your like ghost stories or whatever.
Speaker 2: But then when he had a friend over one time,
Speaker 2: when I was actually like away on vacation or doing something,
Speaker 2: his friend like saw the same thing and saw a
Speaker 2: cloaked figure on the other side of the street and
Speaker 2: like freaked out and was like, oh my god, someone's
Speaker 2: like looking into our apartment. And so finally he was like,
Speaker 2: holy shit, like that's what my you know, boyfriend had
Speaker 2: told me. Like I thought it was like totally making
Speaker 2: some bullshit story up, and so like that kind of
Speaker 2: made me feel like, Okay, like I'm not maybe the
Speaker 2: only one that's seen this, but it's so interesting because
Speaker 2: it's clearly attached to you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and somebody else witnessed it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so that was like the first time that
Speaker 2: someone else had said like, oh I saw something that
Speaker 2: matched this description of what you were talking about. And
Speaker 2: so and it was weird because like, yeah, like this
Speaker 2: person was connected to me, but not very closely, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, like yeah, family member or really
Speaker 2: close friend. It's like a friend of a boyfriend. So
Speaker 2: that was really interesting. And the last thing I would
Speaker 2: say about the entity, I just call it like the
Speaker 2: entity because I don't know what else to call it.
Speaker 2: But I had a dream after all these things happened,
Speaker 2: is like the last time I've had any kind of
Speaker 2: connection with it. And I remember my dream. I just
Speaker 2: was in this almost like marketplace in this other country
Speaker 2: and there was this person that would just stare at
Speaker 2: me with this just like grin. It's like evil grin.
Speaker 2: And it just started walking towards me, and I felt
Speaker 2: that in that like freezing feeling again. And he walked
Speaker 2: up to me and he said, you can run, you
Speaker 2: can move, but I'll always be there. Yeah, and that
Speaker 2: just like and like, of course, like this person had
Speaker 2: a face, like he looked like a normal person, but
Speaker 2: I had that feeling like I know who this is,
Speaker 2: Like this is that thing that's followed me for my
Speaker 2: whole life.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. So when's the last time that this happened.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, the last time I saw it would
Speaker 2: have been probably the time when I saw it across
Speaker 2: the street in the new building.
Speaker 1: That was being But I mean, like how long ago
Speaker 1: that was.
Speaker 2: Probably that was several years ago. That was probably around
Speaker 2: two thousand and ten or eleven.
Speaker 1: So it's been a while. Actually that's good.
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you. So I'll tell you. Then I
Speaker 2: guess kind of what I did to try to maybe
Speaker 2: get rid of it. So there's this there's this really
Speaker 2: cool occult bookstore in Cago. Supposedly it's the oldest one
Speaker 2: in America. I don't know for sure, but that's what
Speaker 2: they say. And so I go there and it's really
Speaker 2: cool because it's like, I mean, they have got everything.
Speaker 2: They've got jars with like graveyard dirt and like everything
Speaker 2: you can think of, and so like they are ready
Speaker 2: to like do the real shit. And so I went
Speaker 2: there just like kind of like almost like desperate, because
Speaker 2: I was just to the point where I'm like, something,
Speaker 2: I've got to get rid of this thing. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't want this to follow me anymore. I don't
Speaker 2: want this to be around me. And so I told
Speaker 2: him like what had happened, and they're like, yeah, that
Speaker 2: sounds like maybe you've got something attached to you. And
Speaker 2: they're like, here, right, there might be something we can
Speaker 2: do to like figure this out. So they walk me
Speaker 2: over to this cabinet and they open it up and
Speaker 2: there is this stone and he doesn't say like what
Speaker 2: it is or anything, and he just like close your
Speaker 2: eyes and I do, and he's like lift out your
Speaker 2: hand and I'm going to put something in your hand,
Speaker 2: grasp it and put it against your chest and then
Speaker 2: just tell me what happens. I'm thinking, Okay, this is weird.
Speaker 1: This you could yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: But I was with a friend and so she was
Speaker 2: there too, and so I'm like, okay, if he like,
Speaker 2: dress something really weird. She's gonna be like, wait up
Speaker 2: a second. But anyways, so I do it, and like
Speaker 2: at first, nothing happens. Of course, I'm thinking like this
Speaker 2: is so ridiculous. I feel like I feel so dumb.
Speaker 2: But then all of a sudden, like whatever it was, like,
Speaker 2: I started feeling it like push away from me, almost
Speaker 2: like you would see like with battery or with magnets
Speaker 2: and how it's just like it just will not stay
Speaker 2: against it. It just pushes away. And I pushed away
Speaker 2: until like it was it was like all the way
Speaker 2: away from me, and then like the guy just grabbed
Speaker 2: it out of my hand and he's like there you go.
Speaker 2: That's your answer, and I'm like what and he's like,
Speaker 2: what I put in your hand was a bizoar stone,
Speaker 2: and I guess for reference the bizoarre stone in modern
Speaker 2: like stuff, Harry Potter actually uses that in one of
Speaker 2: the films. When I saw Very Party filmed app because
Speaker 2: this happened before that. Before I saw it, I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, that's the stone they had me like hold,
Speaker 2: And I guess it's supposedly like a gall stone or
Speaker 2: something passed by an animal that is like with a
Speaker 2: shaman or something, and so there's like a spirit that's
Speaker 2: supposed to be attached to these stones or rare, but
Speaker 2: I guess they're like supposedly like good spirits. So if
Speaker 2: there's something negative that's like attached to you, they like respond.
Speaker 2: And so that's why he was like, it responded to
Speaker 2: something that's attached to you. So he's like that's her answer,
Speaker 2: and so I'm like, Okay, that was really that was
Speaker 2: really crazy. That was that was so weird. And so
Speaker 2: he's like he made me this like candle and I
Speaker 2: had all this stuff all over it. He told me
Speaker 2: I needed to break a mirror into shards. I had
Speaker 2: to like put it all on a white tablecloth and
Speaker 2: he's like light it and he's like, you know, just
Speaker 2: stare into the flame and just like whatever you feel
Speaker 2: like your element is, whether it's fire, wind or water
Speaker 2: or whatever. He's like, use that and like feel like
Speaker 2: you see it like made out of a sword, and
Speaker 2: you cut it, like you're cutting the connection between you
Speaker 2: and this thing, and like if you do that, then
Speaker 2: it will it'll lose the connection to you and it
Speaker 2: will get lost in the mirrors. And so I did
Speaker 2: that and honestly, it after that, it kind of just
Speaker 2: didn't I never, like I said, I haven't seen it
Speaker 2: in all those years. I didn't kind of feel like
Speaker 2: there was necessarily something following me. So I took that
Speaker 2: as maybe I got rid of it, or or it's
Speaker 2: maybe a little lost right now and can't find me.
Speaker 1: So well, when was that dream with the smiling guy?
Speaker 2: That was? Oh, that was a while after I saw
Speaker 2: it across the streets, So maybe a couple a few
Speaker 2: months or a year or two after that, So that
Speaker 2: probably happened like twenty eleven, twenty twelve or something.
Speaker 1: Well, I think he's gone. I think he's gone.
Speaker 2: I hope so.
Speaker 1: Well, So do you have another story that you could tell?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this one is probably like I have so many,
Speaker 2: Like I could probably be on here for hours.
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll have to be back.
Speaker 2: But one, the other one that I would say is
Speaker 2: really it really meant something to me? I guess was
Speaker 2: so the apartment, like I said that I was living
Speaker 2: in when I moved to Chicago, My first apartment was
Speaker 2: definitely haunted, and you know, I'd seen like things like
Speaker 2: scratches on the walls. I would hear things and h
Speaker 2: one night I came home and my roommates to the
Speaker 2: two room once I had both said that they had
Speaker 2: experienced things or heard things or saw things, and we're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's something here. I don't know what it was. And
Speaker 2: so and one of my friends was like atheists, and
Speaker 2: she like did not believe in like anything, and so
Speaker 2: she was just like, I know, really normally don't believe
Speaker 2: in stuff like this, but there's just something here. And
Speaker 2: so one night I came home, I think from work
Speaker 2: or you know, from class or something, and it seemed
Speaker 2: like the apartment was empty, like no one was home,
Speaker 2: like I was the only one there, and so I
Speaker 2: just like all the lights were off, and it was
Speaker 2: kind of like turn into night. And so I turned
Speaker 2: on the kitchen light. And the way the department was
Speaker 2: set up was like right after you walk in, there's
Speaker 2: like a hallway and it goes right into a kitchen
Speaker 2: and the good and then it goes like right into
Speaker 2: the dining room with like a windows all in there.
Speaker 2: And so I turned that light on and I sat
Speaker 2: down to like eat, and when I did, I looked
Speaker 2: up and then the reflection of the window was a
Speaker 2: man standing in the like entryway of the kitchen, and
Speaker 2: I just like froze and I like looked, and I
Speaker 2: was like and I turned around and like, of course
Speaker 2: no one was there, but I thought, okay, well, maybe
Speaker 2: maybe someone was home. And so, you know, I get up,
Speaker 2: I go to look around. I'm like calling my roommate's names,
Speaker 2: and I'm like nothing. And that was the first time
Speaker 2: I like seen like a you know, a person or
Speaker 2: entity or anything in the apartment besides of course the
Speaker 2: cloach figure, which I felt was like it felt like
Speaker 2: they were two different things, right. And I also would
Speaker 2: have my record player would turn itself on at various times,
Speaker 2: like I would just wake up and I would hear music,
Speaker 2: and I would be like, what what is that? And
Speaker 2: I thought maybe he was like a neighbor. My windows
Speaker 2: were open, I'm hearing it from outside. But I would
Speaker 2: go into my living room and the record player would
Speaker 2: be turned on, playing like a jazz station.
Speaker 3: I was like that, oo, so what do we think,
Speaker 3: Like it's haunted by a man from me who.
Speaker 2: Loves jazz, right, what a perfect roommate. So then to
Speaker 2: shoot forward, I was at my one of my best
Speaker 2: friend's houses one night. We were all together hanging out
Speaker 2: and I was getting ready to leave, so I try
Speaker 2: to like hail a cab and everything, and I remember
Speaker 2: like getting one and the guy was asking me where
Speaker 2: I was going. He was really disgruntled and everything. And
Speaker 2: I tell him and he's like, oh, well, I'm not
Speaker 2: going that way. I'm going like north. So he just like,
Speaker 2: you gotta get out of my cab. I'm like what.
Speaker 2: And so I get out of his cab and I'm
Speaker 2: just kind of standing there and I have to like
Speaker 2: hail another cab, and so I get into this new
Speaker 2: cab and I'm talking to this guy. He's like an
Speaker 2: older guy, right, and he's very friendly and we start
Speaker 2: talking and I tell him where I'm going. He's like, oh,
Speaker 2: He's like that that sounds familiar. He's like, I'm pretty
Speaker 2: sure I lived in that building in like the early eighties.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, well, that's that's a coincidence. That's
Speaker 2: kind of cool. And so we kept talking. He's like
Speaker 2: telling me, abow back in the early eighties in that
Speaker 2: area in Chicago was like a really rough place to live,
Speaker 2: and like he said that pizza delivery people like wouldn't
Speaker 2: even want to come because it was just so dangerous
Speaker 2: and stuff. And then he started talking about his roommate.
Speaker 2: And you could tell that when he talked about his roommate,
Speaker 2: like you could tell like they were very close, and
Speaker 2: he would talk about him like in the past sense,
Speaker 2: like he wasn't around anymore. And so I kind of
Speaker 2: like kind of pushed into that and I was like, well,
Speaker 2: what happened to your roommate And he's like, well, he
Speaker 2: came home one night and he died. He had a
Speaker 2: massive heart attack in the lobby and he died. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I'm really sorry. And then he kind
Speaker 2: of like paused and he was like, well, he wasn't
Speaker 2: just my roommate, he was my husband. And I was like, oh, wow,
Speaker 2: that's that's incredible, and I'm so sorry that, you know,
Speaker 2: you had that experience. And and I just something clicked
Speaker 2: and I'm just like, well, I'm not gonna lie, like
Speaker 2: I have been experiencing things in my apartment that I
Speaker 2: can't really explain, and you know, and I think I
Speaker 2: was like one of the things that's really weird is
Speaker 2: that my you know, record player will just come on
Speaker 2: by itself and it will just always play this jazz
Speaker 2: station he's like what. He's like he loved jazz, Like
Speaker 2: he loved jazz so much, and I'm like what. And
Speaker 2: we just kept talking and like I'm like, I don't
Speaker 2: know if you believe in like ghosts or anything like that,
Speaker 2: but I almost feel like he could possibly be in
Speaker 2: my unit. And he just starts crying. He's like, oh
Speaker 2: my god. He's like I believe you, like I think
Speaker 2: that that's what's happening. And he's like, will you tell
Speaker 2: him that? Like I miss him, I love him, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm doing okay, And then I start crying because I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, like, what are the chances of me
Speaker 2: randomly getting kicked out of a cab to get into
Speaker 2: another cab of this guy who you still live in
Speaker 2: my building and whose partner had had died, you know,
Speaker 2: and he never really got to say his goodbyes. And
Speaker 2: so he's like, you know, telling me all these things
Speaker 2: he wants me to like tell him, and I'm you know, thinking,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't even know if this is really
Speaker 2: the same person, but okay, and so he like writes
Speaker 2: down his name and his number and he's like, if
Speaker 2: you experience anything or if anything else happens, please let
Speaker 2: me know, like I really want to know. So I'm
Speaker 2: like okay, and we part and I go back up
Speaker 2: to the space and on my apartment and I sit
Speaker 2: on my bed and I'm just like, hey, I think
Speaker 2: I might have met your partner, your husband, and he
Speaker 2: wanted me to tell you that he misses you, he
Speaker 2: loves you, and he's doing fine, he's doing good. And
Speaker 2: he just wanted me to tell you that. And after
Speaker 2: that happened, I never had anything else happen. Wow, stopped
Speaker 2: and I never saw anything, never heard anything, nothing.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can't believe in that. I can't.
Speaker 3: I can't run my head around that coincidence, which many
Speaker 3: people say there's no such thing as coincidence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I especially after that, I'm prone to agree
Speaker 2: with that that you know, it just there's way too
Speaker 2: many variables that would have had to happen to make
Speaker 2: this occur, and they all fell into place, and you know,
Speaker 2: it happened, and it's that one has always stayed with me.
Speaker 2: And his name was Robbie, his husband, So I believe
Speaker 2: Robbie the ghost was literally in my apartment. Just I think,
Speaker 2: you know, just confused or sad or like he didn't
Speaker 2: get closure because you know, he never made it home
Speaker 2: that night, and so he didn't have a way to
Speaker 2: say goodbye. And I think he was just kind of
Speaker 2: looking for that, looking for some kind of closure or
Speaker 2: to know that his partner was Okay.
Speaker 3: I am joined by Claire in Portland.
Speaker 4: Hello Claire, what's up everybody?
Speaker 3: Thanks for doing this. So I want to hear about
Speaker 3: the ghost in Japan that you were telling me you're
Speaker 3: nervous about tell Now, why are you nervous about telling
Speaker 3: the story?
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I don't entirely know. I'm not
Speaker 4: really like the type of person who is who welcomes
Speaker 4: this kind of thing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's just a.
Speaker 4: Little bit anxiety inducing because, like, for real, what if
Speaker 4: the spirit catches wind of me talking about this or
Speaker 4: listens to your podcast.
Speaker 3: I have so many ghost listeners it's insane.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I hopefully they don't catch wind of
Speaker 4: this and like start haunting my current residence because again,
Speaker 4: like I'm not looking for this kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Well, what happened? Tell me the whole story?
Speaker 4: Big breath, deep breath. Yeah, it was in my early
Speaker 4: twenties and I moved to Japan because I you know,
Speaker 4: I did the whole teaching ESL thing when I was younger.
Speaker 1: You speak Japanese, I no, no, I do not.
Speaker 4: I mean I tried to, but people would respond in
Speaker 4: like perfect English. So I just gave up after like
Speaker 4: three living there. But but yeah, I taught English. I
Speaker 4: taught USL for a couple of years when I was
Speaker 4: in my early twenties. So I sort of hopped around
Speaker 4: all over the place.
Speaker 1: And one of the.
Speaker 4: Places that I taught ESL in was Gifu City in Japan.
Speaker 4: So it was a it was a really sweet gig actually,
Speaker 4: Like I got the job online and so I moved
Speaker 4: out to Japan and I get picked up by my boss,
Speaker 4: and it was just a really surreal situation. I like
Speaker 4: I landed in Japan in the middle of the night
Speaker 4: and he met me at the airport, and I was
Speaker 4: just so tired and so like, you know, it's kind
Speaker 4: of like you don't know what the fuck's going on,
Speaker 4: you know, when you're like in your early monies and
Speaker 4: you moved to Japan, it's just like what the fuck
Speaker 4: is that, you know, But like he picks me up
Speaker 4: from the airport, he starts driving me. We're like in
Speaker 4: the car for a really long time, and he just
Speaker 4: drives me to this house and that was where I
Speaker 4: was going to live while I worked there. And so
Speaker 4: it was kind of a surreal, like a said situation,
Speaker 4: because we pull up to the house and like right
Speaker 4: away it was just like this feels weird. It just
Speaker 4: felt kind of eerie. And so I get into the
Speaker 4: house and it's like, you know, it's it's late and
Speaker 4: there were all these other people living in the house,
Speaker 4: other teachers and also Japanese staff who worked at these schools,
Speaker 4: and so nobody was up and I was just told that,
Speaker 4: you know, I was supposed to go upstairs, that there
Speaker 4: was a room on the right, and that that was
Speaker 4: going to be my bedroom. So I get into the
Speaker 4: house and I get up to my room and it's
Speaker 4: a it's a traditional Japanese room, so it had a
Speaker 4: what are called to Tommy four matts, and I had
Speaker 4: a fluteon and so I get kind of settled in,
Speaker 4: feeling kind of weird about the whole situation, you know,
Speaker 4: but I get settled in, and for the next couple
Speaker 4: of days it was just I was just getting a
Speaker 4: foothold you know, like just kind of getting my bearings
Speaker 4: because you know, yeah, I didn't speak the language, didn't
Speaker 4: know anybody. So on the third night, this is where
Speaker 4: the story gets weird. On the third night, I go
Speaker 4: into my room, I close the door, and I turn
Speaker 4: off the light, and I lay down on my futon
Speaker 4: and I'm laying there just kind of staring up at
Speaker 4: the ceiling and I see this shadow move around the
Speaker 4: room like at lightning speed.
Speaker 1: Hmmm, Now was there a window that could have caused that?
Speaker 4: Or oh well, so there was a window, and the
Speaker 4: reason I could see the shadow was because there was
Speaker 4: moonlight coming in. But it looked like a figure was
Speaker 4: suddenly just just moved around like the walls as quickly
Speaker 4: as possible. Yeah, yeah, and it was, I mean it was.
Speaker 4: I was terrified. So I jump up off of the
Speaker 4: food tongue and I turned the light on and there's
Speaker 4: nothing there. And you know, I mean, again, this is
Speaker 4: the third night that I've been living here. I'm not
Speaker 4: going to go knock on one of my roommate's stores
Speaker 4: and be like, yo, I think there was a ghost
Speaker 4: in my room.
Speaker 3: You know, is that where your mind goes to a
Speaker 3: ghosts or did you think like someone was in there
Speaker 3: or mine.
Speaker 4: My mind immediately went to a ghost like it just
Speaker 4: if it was nothing like nothing I.
Speaker 2: Had ever seen before, you know, huh.
Speaker 4: So I leave the light on that night, right like,
Speaker 4: I lay back down the futon and I go to
Speaker 4: sleep and I wake up early, like it's dawn when
Speaker 4: I wake up, and there's blood.
Speaker 1: On my pill up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I feel something on my ear and I
Speaker 4: reach up to touch my ear, and it's like somebody
Speaker 4: has insized, like somebody hasn't cut the inside.
Speaker 2: Of my ear.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yeah, yeah it was.
Speaker 4: You know, obviously it was like freaking out about this.
Speaker 4: But I mean again, I hadn't been there for very long,
Speaker 4: and so I didn't know who to talk to or
Speaker 4: you know, what I was supposed to do about the situation.
Speaker 4: So I come downstairs in one of the people who
Speaker 4: had been living in the house. I mean, he'd been
Speaker 4: living in Japan for a really long time and he
Speaker 4: had been living in the house for a while too,
Speaker 4: and I said, you know, I don't know what happened
Speaker 4: last night, something happened to my ear, And he was
Speaker 4: just like, oh, yeah, was it your third night?
Speaker 2: Was it a Tommy room.
Speaker 4: No, yeah, yeah, And so I said, yeah, I mean
Speaker 4: I guess it was my third night, and he was
Speaker 4: just like, yeah.
Speaker 2: It happens.
Speaker 1: What happens to the room?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I like it was. We really didn't
Speaker 4: even talk about it anymore after that. It was it
Speaker 4: was so unsettling, you know, because that was that was
Speaker 4: my room too, so.
Speaker 3: But so you just left it at that. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that happens. You weren't like, what is it a ghost?
Speaker 2: No, you know, And that's.
Speaker 4: The weird thing about it, honestly, Pugin. I don't know
Speaker 4: if I just didn't want to know, I didn't want to,
Speaker 4: you know, or if I was just kind of still
Speaker 4: getting familiarized with this new place that I was living
Speaker 4: and I didn't, you know, I didn't want to like
Speaker 4: weared out my roommates and be the person who's like, I.
Speaker 2: Think the house is haunted.
Speaker 4: So I just yeah, I just kind of like left
Speaker 4: it at that. But you know, of course that's not
Speaker 4: where the story ends, because you know, as I, as
Speaker 4: I got more comfortable living in the house, and of
Speaker 4: course they became really fast good friends with a lot
Speaker 4: of the people who were living in the house. Everybody
Speaker 4: had had some kind of an experience, and so we
Speaker 4: sort of started to band together. And you know, really
Speaker 4: interestingly too, it was we were living in a small
Speaker 4: town and Gifa City is not a big town, especially
Speaker 4: by Japanese standards, and so there were people in our
Speaker 4: neighborhood who knew about this house and who believed that
Speaker 4: there was a spirit in the house. And so as
Speaker 4: I got to know my students who also I mean,
Speaker 4: it was a fabulous experience. Like I became really really
Speaker 4: good friends with all my students in Japan. And I
Speaker 4: had a couple of students, one in particular, who was
Speaker 4: a psychic, and I was telling her about the house
Speaker 4: and about that room in particular, and she was just like, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, I think that you have a spirit, and
Speaker 4: I think that the spirit is in that room. And so,
Speaker 4: you know, she came over and she did a cleansing
Speaker 4: and she said, yeah, it's the Tatammy room is where
Speaker 4: the energy is, and so she did a cleansing ritual
Speaker 4: and she kind of gave us some advice on what
Speaker 4: we could do about it. But yeah, I mean, there
Speaker 4: were lots of experiences in that house that were extremely unsettling.
Speaker 4: Another time, I came home, and I just assumed that
Speaker 4: we had staff, Japanese speaking staff who were in the
Speaker 4: house because I've heard people upstairs speaking Japanese. And then
Speaker 4: one by one everybody came home and there was nobody
Speaker 4: up there. Yeah another time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh sorry, go ahead, I'm.
Speaker 4: Just gonna say another time. You know, we had these
Speaker 4: kind of sliding bamboo doors, and the house didn't have
Speaker 4: central heat, and so each room just had its own
Speaker 4: little space here. So we were really, you know, conscientious
Speaker 4: of conserving the heat. And so I was in the
Speaker 4: family room and I got up to go get my dinner,
Speaker 4: and I opened up the doors and I closed them
Speaker 4: behind me and started to walk towards the kitchen, and
Speaker 4: I just felt, yeah, I mean, you know that feeling
Speaker 4: where it was just like, uh, like somebody's staring at me,
Speaker 4: or somebody's looking at me. And it turned around and
Speaker 4: the doors were wide open.
Speaker 3: So when you would talk to the people in the house,
Speaker 3: what would they say, Well, like your other people living
Speaker 3: like the human people.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's funny because I was actually I was obviously thinking
Speaker 4: about coming on your show and thinking about the whole experience.
Speaker 4: I messaged my friend Gretchen, who also she lived in
Speaker 4: the house for you know, the same time. She was
Speaker 4: there at the same time that I was, and actually
Speaker 4: continued to live in the house a little bit longer
Speaker 4: after I left, and we were just, yeah, talking about
Speaker 4: what a what a spooky experience it was, because she
Speaker 4: too had a lot of pretty gnurly, you know, spooky
Speaker 4: experiences happened there, which you know, I mean, we became
Speaker 4: really good friends, but it was definitely a bonding thing
Speaker 4: where she would you know, what actually happened was I
Speaker 4: wanted to get out of that bedroom, like I just
Speaker 4: I knew that there was something in that bedroom, and
Speaker 4: so the minute that somebody moved out, I moved into
Speaker 4: their room. And the thing about this house was that
Speaker 4: it was I mean, it was huge. There were I
Speaker 4: can't even remember, like there were seven or eight bedrooms
Speaker 4: in it. So it was a really big house. And
Speaker 4: there was kind of the part of the house that
Speaker 4: was original, and that part was like two hundred, two
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty years old, the really old house, and
Speaker 4: then there were new additions, and so I moved downstairs
Speaker 4: into a part of the house that was really disconnected
Speaker 4: from the main portion of the house, and I didn't
Speaker 4: have any experiences down there, Like I was really comfortable
Speaker 4: down there. But my friend Gretchen, she was upstairs and
Speaker 4: there were several nights when she would come down to
Speaker 4: my room and ask if she could sleep with me
Speaker 4: in my room because she was scared.
Speaker 3: Now, when you moved out of that room, did somebody
Speaker 3: move in? And then you got to be the person
Speaker 3: after the third night that goes third night in the
Speaker 3: the domin.
Speaker 2: So we ended up.
Speaker 4: I think that there was kind of an unspoken understanding
Speaker 4: that nobody wanted that room, and so nobody moved into
Speaker 4: that room while I was living there. I was the
Speaker 4: last person to call it my bedroom for the duration
Speaker 4: of my stay in Japan. But one of the teachers
Speaker 4: who lived in the house, her brother, came to visit,
Speaker 4: and you know, I mean it was it the Toatmmi
Speaker 4: room had kind of become like a guest room, I
Speaker 4: guess at that point, and so her brother stayed in
Speaker 4: the Tatami room, and like it's I can't believe, I mean,
Speaker 4: it's just so bizarre. On the third night he he
Speaker 4: was staying in the Tatammi room, and I honestly, I
Speaker 4: don't know how else to describe it. I mean, I
Speaker 4: think he was possessed. He just out of the blue,
Speaker 4: out of the blue. It was late at night, and
Speaker 4: out of the blue, this guy opens up the window
Speaker 4: in the Tatammi room and just starts screaming out into
Speaker 4: the night about how he hates Japan, fucked Japan. And
Speaker 4: he was really, I mean like just losing it, really
Speaker 4: really agitated.
Speaker 2: Out of the blue.
Speaker 4: He had gone into that room perfectly fine, and then suddenly.
Speaker 2: Everybody in the house woke up to him screaming out.
Speaker 4: The window, and he was so agitated that there was
Speaker 4: concern he was actually going to try to jump out
Speaker 4: of this window. So sister, yeah, his sister ran up
Speaker 4: there and tried to calm him down.
Speaker 3: It's so creepy to think that, like the ghosts knows
Speaker 3: it's the third night, like like that that means that
Speaker 3: they're watching the first night. Okay, just two more nights
Speaker 3: and then one more night and then okay, showtime, baby.
Speaker 3: Like that is so creepy. And I've never heard anything
Speaker 3: like like the ear thing.
Speaker 1: What is that?
Speaker 4: I don't know, And I think that that's part of
Speaker 4: you know, I've like I've I've thought about it a
Speaker 4: lot over the years, and I've told the story to
Speaker 4: you know, I've told the story here and there, but
Speaker 4: every time, yeah, it just like it really does. It
Speaker 4: concerns me, you know, because it was I was like,
Speaker 4: did I get marked?
Speaker 1: You know, it sounds very dangerous.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I know, it's it's I can't believe it happened,
Speaker 4: to be honest. And you know, so this is one
Speaker 4: of those things where it's just like, I'm not trying
Speaker 4: to invite this shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, no, you're sife. Don't worry that they're
Speaker 3: not listening. When the student did the cleansing, did did
Speaker 3: that help?
Speaker 4: I think you put my mind at ease a little
Speaker 4: bit because she basically said that, you know, it was
Speaker 4: it was a negative energy. I mean, Japan has a
Speaker 4: lot of really interesting kind of spiritual and metaphysical beliefs.
Speaker 4: A lot of the people who live in Japan do it.
Speaker 4: And so she was basically just like, you know, the
Speaker 4: ghost probably doesn't want to hurt you, but they do
Speaker 4: need to be told to go away from you. They
Speaker 4: do need to be told to that you're unable to
Speaker 4: help them. And so when she did the cleansing ritual,
Speaker 4: you know what she did is she she mounded some
Speaker 4: salt in a sake cup, and she put it in
Speaker 4: front of the door, in front of the door at
Speaker 4: the Tommy room, and she advised us that if we
Speaker 4: were feeling, you know, scared, or were feeling like we
Speaker 4: were being followed by the ghosts, that we could take
Speaker 4: a bath in stake as well, and that would alleviate
Speaker 4: some of the fear. But that if we felt like
Speaker 4: we came face to face with the spirit or with
Speaker 4: the energy or that ghost or whatever you won't call it,
Speaker 4: that we should say that we couldn't help it and
Speaker 4: to please go away. And so I had one experience
Speaker 4: where I came into the house, you know, like I said,
Speaker 4: the room that I ultimately moved into was detached from
Speaker 4: the main structure of the house, and so I had
Speaker 4: to walk through a courtyard to get to the bathroom.
Speaker 4: So I walked through the courtyard to get to the
Speaker 4: bathroom late at night, and I went to close the
Speaker 4: door to the bathroom, and you know, when you when
Speaker 4: you looked out of the bathroom, you basically just looked
Speaker 4: straight up into this dark hallway and then up a
Speaker 4: flight of stairs. It were a really ominous kind of
Speaker 4: view and So I walked in the bathroom, went to
Speaker 4: close the door, and it was it felt like somebody
Speaker 4: was standing there and I just kind of froze for
Speaker 4: a moment, and then I said, you know, I'm really sorry,
Speaker 4: I can't help you. Please go away, And it felt
Speaker 4: like this this energy just evaporated.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, what's good to know that that works.
Speaker 2: Right after that, I was kind of like that maybe
Speaker 2: I can.
Speaker 4: Hand you know, maybe I can handle this.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And so how long ago was this?
Speaker 4: This would have been in two thousand, Wow, it would
Speaker 4: have been two thousand five or two thousand and six.
Speaker 3: Oh see, ghost or human from two thousand and five
Speaker 3: does not know how to use a podcast. They're not listening.
Speaker 2: We relief ross.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, because I'm very concerned. I'm like, I
Speaker 3: don't want this girl was to come back. What do
Speaker 3: you think about it? Like if you were like back
Speaker 3: to the future style came like time traveled from two
Speaker 3: thousand and five, you'd be like, are you talking about
Speaker 3: like radio? No, it's like something that a drag queen
Speaker 3: can do from her couch and talk to somebody in
Speaker 3: Portland about a Japanese coat. They wouldn't know what we
Speaker 3: were talking about ladies and gentlemen. I am joined by
Speaker 3: Paul from Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm good?
Speaker 3: How are you so good? Okay, you have got some
Speaker 3: ghost stories. Where do we begin?
Speaker 5: Well, I guess since it's Christmas time, I want to
Speaker 5: tell a little Christmas ghost story.
Speaker 4: Love that.
Speaker 1: Oh, you know, that's that's such a tradition.
Speaker 3: You know, people don't tell ghost stories like they used to,
Speaker 3: but historically that was like a thing people did on
Speaker 3: Christmas Eve is tell ghost stories.
Speaker 1: And I love that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's also it's kind of a sweet one,
Speaker 5: so it's nice to start with that before we get into
Speaker 5: the really spooky ones.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So well, just a.
Speaker 5: Little backstory about my grandmother, who this story is about.
Speaker 5: She loved Christmas. I love Christmas and she would always
Speaker 5: tell this the story about when she was a little girl.
Speaker 2: She would.
Speaker 5: She wasn't like a theatrical person like myself, but she
Speaker 5: was in a little in a little Christmas show and
Speaker 5: had a poem that she had to read when she
Speaker 5: was like real tiny, and she would read she would
Speaker 5: recite the poem. Even though you know she's in her
Speaker 5: seventies and eighties and all that, she still remembered it
Speaker 5: would recite it. She had like a print of it
Speaker 5: framed that she got at Christmas time. Wow, and it went,
Speaker 5: what can I give him poor as I am. If
Speaker 5: I was a shepherd, I'd bring a lamb. If I
Speaker 5: was a wise man, I'd do my part. What can
Speaker 5: I give him? Give him my heart? And so in
Speaker 5: twenty sixteen she passed away. And you know, she was older,
Speaker 5: fairly conservative, and was not real happy about the fact
Speaker 5: that I was gay, and was invited to our wedding
Speaker 5: but did not come. Sent a letter the only person
Speaker 5: who didn't come who sent me a letter sort of explaining,
Speaker 5: you know, it's because of her faith and her belief,
Speaker 5: you know, in God and those sorts of things that
Speaker 5: she didn't want to come to my wedding, which had
Speaker 5: created sort of you know, a strain there, and that
Speaker 5: you know, there's just certain things that I couldn't tell her.
Speaker 5: So after she passed away the first Christmas, because it
Speaker 5: was in fall, it was late October, the first Christmas,
Speaker 5: I am putting together a new Christmas playlist. I decided
Speaker 5: that I wanted to throw on sort of do a
Speaker 5: collection sort of Lilith Fair type artist, you know, some
Speaker 5: torri amos, some jewel that kind of vibe. And I
Speaker 5: was like, oh, that's right. The Indigo Girls have a
Speaker 5: Christmas album. Let me just pick a couple of songs,
Speaker 5: throw it on the playlist. If I don't like them,
Speaker 5: I'll just take them off. So I am, you know,
Speaker 5: starting to decorate, and I get out these ornaments that
Speaker 5: she had crochete for me and given me for Christmas
Speaker 5: years before. I'm hanging these ornaments and the Indigo Girls
Speaker 5: song comes on and it's in the bleak midwinter, and
Speaker 5: I did not realize until it started playing that the
Speaker 5: third verse is that poem, her poem that she.
Speaker 2: Loves so much.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 5: And so the song starts playing and I'm like, wait,
Speaker 5: I know these words, I know this story, and like
Speaker 5: I just get this tingle and I'm holding these Christmas
Speaker 5: balls that she crocheted, and the song comes on and
Speaker 5: it felt like a message like she was like I
Speaker 5: get it now to hear like these lesbian folk icons
Speaker 5: sing the same waves that she had. It felt like
Speaker 5: a message from her that she understood better whatever happens
Speaker 5: after we die, you know, she understood, you know, sort
Speaker 5: of being gay is okay.
Speaker 1: So wow.
Speaker 3: Or is it possible that she was secretly a big
Speaker 3: fan of the Indigo Girls this whole time?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's possible.
Speaker 5: I mean she Yeah, everybody loves a little lesbian folk icon, you.
Speaker 1: Know, so or she was one of their songwriters.
Speaker 3: Well maybe attributed she contributed a verse. Wow, that's amazing though, God,
Speaker 3: that would be so crazy about and you're.
Speaker 1: Like, wait a minute, Grandma, Oh my god, yeah cool.
Speaker 5: So so that one's like that one was just kind
Speaker 5: of a sweet and of course, you know it's it
Speaker 5: could be a coincidence. You know, you can explain that away,
Speaker 5: but like it if I could feel it, like in
Speaker 5: my soul that there was like a connection there.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's so sweet. That's so nice to get that,
Speaker 3: that confirmation. I think that's that seems like the fear
Speaker 3: that you probably got surrounding that were probably really confirmed
Speaker 3: that for you.
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, and I had my dad passed away when
Speaker 5: I was sixteen before I came out, and I'd seen
Speaker 5: a psychic and I kind of just asked like, did
Speaker 5: he know does he know now? Wherever he is now?
Speaker 5: And she was like she was like, he he gets it.
Speaker 5: He doesn't have a problem with it. Like he understands.
Speaker 5: So it was kind of that same vibe of like,
Speaker 5: you know, after you die, things are you know clearer,
Speaker 5: you know, so well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like you're so wrapped up in the human
Speaker 3: just every day material, human shit, and I think that
Speaker 3: it seems like that just goes away, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's more about our souls and the bigger picture. M yeah, wow, okay,
Speaker 3: now tell me spook you one.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 5: So this when I was in the first grade, I
Speaker 5: think the summer before I went into first grade, so
Speaker 5: I was like six. We moved into a older brick
Speaker 5: house that was a duplex, so it was like two
Speaker 5: houses connected by a wall, and there was some weird
Speaker 5: stuff that started happening. Like I was little, so like
Speaker 5: my memories are a little bit hazy, but based on
Speaker 5: the stories my parents would would tell me, you know,
Speaker 5: kind of piecing together what happened there, we would have
Speaker 5: like stuff would suddenly come, like in the summertime, suddenly
Speaker 5: come flying out of the heat events like they had
Speaker 5: turned on and stuff would move. The really creepy moment
Speaker 5: was we my sister, who was little like two years old,
Speaker 5: was upstairs by herself and was going to walk down
Speaker 5: the steps and somebody pushed her even though she was
Speaker 5: up there by herself. And you know that's just spooky.
Speaker 1: Uki, Yeah, a two year old, you said.
Speaker 5: Yes, oh no, And and this isn't like supernatural.
Speaker 2: It was just weird.
Speaker 5: The sister that was younger than her, who was like
Speaker 5: a like a newborn less than year old, that same sister,
Speaker 5: the two year old climbed up and pushed her off
Speaker 5: of the changing table. And you know, obviously you know
Speaker 5: that wasn't a ghost that did that, but like what
Speaker 5: two year old just goes around pushing their baby sister
Speaker 5: off of things? Like you know, just there was weird
Speaker 5: vibes like that. And I have a distinct memory of
Speaker 5: being like in the living room by myself and getting
Speaker 5: kicked up and thrown oh and that that's like I
Speaker 5: it was weird because like I had a memory of it,
Speaker 5: like someone must have picked me up, and it's sort
Speaker 5: of like recovered, like no, there was no one else there,
Speaker 5: Like I was picked up by nothing and thrown across
Speaker 5: the living room.
Speaker 1: Did you get hurt?
Speaker 5: Not that I regard, Like I've never had a broken
Speaker 5: bone or anything like that. So it wasn't like enough
Speaker 5: to like damage me, but you know, it's still pretty scary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I.
Speaker 5: Like, I don't know what all else may have happened
Speaker 5: at that house, because like, those are the things that
Speaker 5: I like witnessed or was told to Some of them
Speaker 5: were told to me later. But so I'm in first
Speaker 5: grade and I come home from school one day and
Speaker 5: my grandfather is at the door and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: you guys moved, And my mom was just like, I've
Speaker 5: had enough. I can't stand this haunted house. We are leaving,
Speaker 5: and we moved in with my grandparents for a while.
Speaker 5: And by the time, like I was old enough to
Speaker 5: ask her questions she had She has a history of
Speaker 5: mental illness and actually had to have lecture of show
Speaker 5: therapy in the nineties, and so like her memories of
Speaker 5: that time in the house are real fragmented. So she's like,
Speaker 5: I don't know, maybe I was just crazy. I'm like maybe,
Speaker 5: but we all remember some of that shit, so it
Speaker 5: wasn't just you, you know.
Speaker 1: Wow, Oh that's so scary. It sounds so violent. Eugh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And we because we were there for less than
Speaker 5: a year, because we moved in that summer and we're
Speaker 5: out by I don't know exactly when, but it would
Speaker 5: have been like late winter, early spring, so it wasn't
Speaker 5: even a full year that we were.
Speaker 1: In this house. Do you have another one?
Speaker 5: Well, my husband is uh, has a little bit of
Speaker 5: the gift. He doesn't like it, doesn't want it, but
Speaker 5: he will hear things and see things.
Speaker 2: And I've the weird thing.
Speaker 5: Is like I've always been like, not skeptical, but kind
Speaker 5: of like, well, is there another explanation?
Speaker 2: Are you sure of what's happened? That kind of vibe.
Speaker 5: But he one of our apartments, the first apartment we
Speaker 5: lived in together, he would hear like voices call his
Speaker 5: name when he was home by himself, and like the
Speaker 5: dog would hear them too. But I never really experienced
Speaker 5: those things until the house we live in now. When
Speaker 5: we first moved in, my sister and her son were
Speaker 5: living here as well, and after they moved out, which
Speaker 5: was this past spring, right before everything went crazy here,
Speaker 5: we started. He started before I did. He would see
Speaker 5: like shadows like in the doorways, like something was like
Speaker 5: peeking around the door at us, and he didn't want
Speaker 5: to say anything, I guess because I'm a little skeptical.
Speaker 5: And finally he was like I don't know, Like I
Speaker 5: just I thought I saw something, and my sister was
Speaker 5: all like I used to see the same thing, and
Speaker 5: I didn't want to say anything. So it's like concentrated,
Speaker 5: like kind of is the side of the house where
Speaker 5: the bedrooms are where like he would see these shadowy things,
Speaker 5: like peek out through the doorways. He'd be because we
Speaker 5: don't smoke, he doesn't. He smokes, but he doesn't smoke
Speaker 5: in the house, so he'd be out on the porch
Speaker 5: smoking and then be all like, did you go into
Speaker 5: the bedroom for something?
Speaker 2: Like it's a weird time a.
Speaker 5: Day for you to be in the bedroom. We're like no,
Speaker 5: and he's like, well, it looks like something was moving
Speaker 5: around in the bedroom. And then so I was like, Okay,
Speaker 5: I don't want to say it didn't happen, but you know,
Speaker 5: we live on a busy street. There's literally a burger
Speaker 5: king next door to us. You know, it could be
Speaker 5: just you know, the headlights or whatever. Like I'm trying
Speaker 5: to come up with other explanations, just kind of partially
Speaker 5: not to freak myself out. But then the one day
Speaker 5: I was out in the kitchen and I'd been like
Speaker 5: doing dishes, or something, and so i'd just sit down
Speaker 5: for a second, take a breather, you know, browse TikTok,
Speaker 5: and I and like I felt him walk past me
Speaker 5: and go down into the basement like he was gonna
Speaker 5: do laundry. And so then after a bit, I'm like,
Speaker 5: why is he coming back up? Like it takes like
Speaker 5: five minutes to if the laundry started, And I got
Speaker 5: to poke my head down and no one's down there.
Speaker 5: And so then I walk out into the living room
Speaker 5: when he's ou out here and he's out on the
Speaker 5: porch smoking, and I'm like, did you go down and
Speaker 5: do laundry. He's like, no, I'm down in the basement
Speaker 5: all day. So I'm like, I don't know what walked
Speaker 5: past me because I didn't like see it, like as
Speaker 5: like a figure was out of the corner of my eye.
Speaker 5: But I saw movement come into the kitchen and then
Speaker 5: go into the basement.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: So with him having the gift, does he have any
Speaker 3: insight into what's going on?
Speaker 5: Not really like he he tends to see things more,
Speaker 5: but he doesn't get like communication or like feelings about
Speaker 5: what these these things are. It tends to be more
Speaker 5: like he'll see things that no one else is seeing,
Speaker 5: you know, movements and figures and that sort of thing.
Speaker 5: So yeah, so he has no idea. The house is
Speaker 5: about one hundred years old. So I tried googling the
Speaker 5: addresses to see if something came up, but nothing did.
Speaker 5: But yeah, so we don't know a whole lot besides that.
Speaker 5: We just we see these figures and it's just the
Speaker 5: two of us.
Speaker 1: So how do you feel about that?
Speaker 3: Like, do you do you feel like you might want
Speaker 3: to get someone in there and ghostbust it.
Speaker 5: Or at the moment, it doesn't, it doesn't bother to
Speaker 5: me too much because they're like leaving us alone. Because
Speaker 5: in the meantime, I've had I've had another situation where
Speaker 5: I kind of felt like it was going on to
Speaker 5: the basement. We've had the basement door kind of creak
Speaker 5: open and creaked shut on us, so that it's like
Speaker 5: it's it's spooky, creepy, but it's not like dangerous feeling.
Speaker 5: So at the moment, it's kind of like, leave well
Speaker 5: enough alone and hope it leaves us alone.
Speaker 1: I guess just coexist.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god, Well, Paul, these are some good ones.
Speaker 1: I mean, are there other ones or.
Speaker 5: That's pretty much it of things that I okay experience. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you know, like I said, it's nothing's like a full
Speaker 5: like narrative arc of like. And then we discovered that
Speaker 5: a little girl died in the attic, you know kind
Speaker 5: of stories. It's just like weird shit just follows me
Speaker 5: around apparently.
Speaker 1: Well, but you're currently living in a narrative.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so you let me know when you find
Speaker 3: out that there's a little girl buried in the attic
Speaker 3: or whatever.
Speaker 5: I will.
Speaker 2: I will definitely let you know.
Speaker 1: But I hope not. I've been ghosted too. Special.
Speaker 3: Thank you to Ryan, Claire and Paul, and if you
Speaker 3: want just a little more of them, head on over
Speaker 3: to patreon dot com slash ros dres false and you
Speaker 3: can find some bonus clips of me talking to Ryan
Speaker 3: and Paul. I cannot stop thinking about Claire's ear bleeding
Speaker 3: as the result of a ghost, and then I started thinking, Okay,
Speaker 3: the only time I've ever had blood on my ear
Speaker 3: was when I got my ears pierced at wait for it,
Speaker 3: Claire's at the Mall at the Glendale Galleria. I went
Speaker 3: to Claire's and they pierced my ears and it only
Speaker 3: I mean it bled just a little tiny bit, but
Speaker 3: still I was thinking about that and I'm like, wait,
Speaker 3: but we just heard that story from Claire. Is there
Speaker 3: a connection there? Am I onto something? Was it the
Speaker 3: ghost of somebody that worked at Claire's?
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Speaker 3: I'll talk to you in twenty twenty one. I love
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