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He's a legendary queen's rapper, 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:40.880 Hang Segre it is your boy in nor E's a 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:43.760 Miami hip hop pioneer. What up is d J e 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:46.159 f N. Together they drink it up with some of 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:48.919 the biggest players in music and sport. You know, I 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:53.240 mean the most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:56.120 source for drunk facts. This is Drinks chap Radar. Where 0:00:56.200 --> 0:01:02.600 he day is New Year's Eve? Just round, he said, Hope, Savia, 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:05.959 it's your boy and r DJ and his Drink Chance 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:14.080 Mother podcast. Right now, right now, we have the legendary, 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:17.480 a guy that I feel like cinema should be handed 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:20.280 to him like period. Like when it comes to cinema, 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:22.880 he has to be the executive producer of the word 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:25.400 of the word. Like when you look up cinema, he 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:28.400 gotta be his face, gotta be right there. He's made 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:32.679 legendary movies. He's got to work with the legends of 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:36.000 the legends. He made the legends put him in the 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:40.640 first movie. But especially hip hop. When it comes to 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:43.640 hip hop, he was I feel like he invented this. 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:47.039 I ain't gonna take the rappers and I'm gonna make 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:50.600 them movie stars. I feel like he gives some jobs. 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:53.360 Right now, we got the legendary John Singleton and the mother. 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:00.240 Now where did you get the love for developer? Been 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:02.440 sent him a period? How did how did that even 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:04.840 come to you? I grew up next to a drive 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:08.520 in theater and I used to look out my window 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:11.520 and I s to see like Kung Fu movies and 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:16.480 horror movies and Michael Myers and stuff and Last Protection movies. 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:20.360 And I saw Pam Gris titties and I was like, 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:26.160 are you saying Pam's great titties is what made you focus. 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:30.760 I gotta get that's what made me do that. That's 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:32.560 what happened. It's true story. I'm not making it up. 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:36.600 Everybody knows baby Boy was supposed to be a role 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:41.120 for tupac Y. How how difficult was that saying that, 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:43.480 you know what, I wrote this originally for my friend 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:47.239 because you guys was friends and he's not here. How 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:50.600 difficult was that to pick that actor? That Tyre's actor. 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:53.240 I put it up on the show for years after 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:55.360 that because the last thing, the last conversation I had 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:58.280 with Pop was at the crushaw Mall. He was doing 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:02.000 this video to Live and Die in l A and 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:03.560 I was like, I got the movie that's gonna get 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:06.720 you on Oscar, you know, And that was it. That 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:09.000 was And then you know, a couple of weeks later, 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:12.919 he wasn't with us anymore, So I didn't. I wasn't 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:15.120 had a planning on doing the movie at all at all. 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:19.120 And it's just, uh, I know Tyres since he was 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:23.040 sixteen years old, and I dished this movie Shaft. He 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.239 was supposed to Tyres was supposed to be in the movie, 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:27.799 but he was too busy being an MTV v J. 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:32.360 And then I said Okay, I got this movie. I'm 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:34.560 gonna pull off the shop and you know, you know, 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:37.600 just like people have stuff and files and stuff, I 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:41.000 got movies and crates and stuff that I've written, and 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:42.720 I said, okay, maybe this is the time to do 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:45.280 this movie. But by the way, Shaft, like when people 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:49.760 do remix, it's very hard because and I can't believe 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:52.320 how you pulled off Shaft like that. Yeah, but it was. 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:53.920 It was good. It was good to be in New York. 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:58.080 It was a crazy time to be I wasn't. We 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:00.000 was in the high school. We was. We was hard. 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:03.680 It was all over the whole city. Um, it was. 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:06.440 It was you know, you remember it was that was 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:08.320 when I was making that movie. We were the only 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:10.960 movie that was shooting at the time. It was like 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:13.960 in the daytime and the night I was shooting in 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.720 the night and then sometimes the night I was up 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:19.680 in Cheetah and sent your flying like the first thing. 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.960 That was the first thing I said to you. What 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:28.760 I like, I was like, oh my god. But I 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.599 was like I was a wild person then I was. 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:41.200 I'm different now, more conservative, servative. When movies, it's movies 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:43.200 with like you have to go through something like you 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:45.960 know how sometimes comedians will come out with things every 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:48.359 five years because it's like they actually got to go 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:52.360 through experiences. But for me, it's for me, making films 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:55.839 is kind of an emotional experience. Um. You know, I 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:58.200 put my all into it. I put my heart and 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:02.159 soul um you know. Um, and it's just like it 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:04.840 takes something out of you, but it gives something back. 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:07.360 And every time I do a movie, it's an adventure. 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:12.360 So um you know. Um, lately I've been just like 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:16.200 concentrate on television instead of movies because people are watching 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:18.640 more TV than our films and there's a lot more 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:22.279 to do. Um you know, Like you can make it 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:24.320 make a movie every two or three years, but the 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:27.520 film a TV show, it's like doing a movie every week. 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.320 You get a chance to shoot, pull a new talent, 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.200 put people in and see how they work, and then 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:35.200 maybe if they work on the TV show, then you 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:37.560 take them off to a movie. So that's my that's 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:41.400 my body. You feel the same way about writing and directing, Yeah, yeah, 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:43.680 I mean I have to whatever I do, I have 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:46.080 to write. I have to write because I have to 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:49.080 put my on stink on it. That what made you 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:52.880 say to ice Cube. You said, because because I remember 0:05:52.920 --> 0:06:00.760 you saying that you knew. Thank you. So you said 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.280 to ice Cube and just so you know, it's it's 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:05.320 a plastic on it, come on, you help him out. 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:11.120 Come on your closest thing. Come on, okay, let me 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:13.360 sure it open dearly. I don't even want to do it. 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:16.960 But you said to ice Cube that his first rhymes 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:20.640 were like movie like so and then he went later 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:25.320 on and created Friday. Did you ever think you should 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:27.320 have been a part of Friday as well? Yeah? I did. 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:36.080 Let his true story Cube. When we were doing Boys 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:39.040 in the Herd, he started like looking at how movies 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.480 are made, watching the set, so that he did a 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:45.800 video called Dead Homies. You've seen that video. It's really cinematic. 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:48.440 He started like, you know, slow wing shots and really 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:50.960 cinematic stuff. And you know, even when Cube had other 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:54.440 people direct the movie, the videos, he wouldn't be quasi directed. 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.880 So then he was like, okay, I want to write movies. 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:00.159 I said, well, okay, I've gotta get a laptop. He 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:05.040 meet him and his now wife when she was time 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:08.880 when going on laptop and he's a screenwriting stuff. So 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:12.080 he started he wrote, he wrote from that, the next 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.760 year and a half he wrote like three screenplays. He 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.520 wrote different titles and screenplays and everyone, and I was 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:21.600 like this one. And then he stopped showing me his screenplays. 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:24.000 So then he wrote because I kept shipping on him 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:27.840 a little bit because I was like, because it's my brother, right, 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:31.000 you could do better than this, right. And then but 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:33.840 he was also selling them too. You know, it didn't 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:36.840 matter if I thought there was happy. He sold some 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:41.840 stuff to Universal. He was selling like that I got produced. 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:44.720 He was just selling screenplays. And then so that he 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:48.240 did he we do we do higher learning together. And 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:50.480 then he's like I'm doing this other movie and said 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:53.120 and he's like I'm um, and it's like okay. But 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:56.920 but he started Friday out independently on Money Up on Friday, 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.920 and the new line was like we want to help you. 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:01.320 And I was like if people have told me that, 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:04.200 I would like everything in it, because it was like, 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:06.560 you know, when he finally got it done and showed 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:08.880 it to me, I was like, that's gonna it's gonna 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:11.000 be huge, and it was you know what I mean, 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:16.080 are we talking about Friday? Friday? Friday? Okay, so Friday, 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.080 you know, he did that all on his own, man, 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:23.040 you know, looking at now man, Yeah, yes, so so 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:27.320 now I'm glad you brought up higher learning, right because 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:31.520 higher learning. I feel like it was a socially conscious movie. Yeah, 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:36.000 we don't really have socially conscious movies anymore. No, we 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:39.280 don't matter. Are we missing that? We're missing a lot 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:42.760 of things we were missing. It's a little John. That's 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:46.959 how we're doing in drink chants, That's how we're doing. 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:50.400 So are we missing social conscious movies? I think we're 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:54.280 missing movies that about something. I think we need that 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:56.480 now more than ever because I'm kind of brought proud 0:08:56.520 --> 0:09:00.120 of jay Z for the writer's alan Doctor Brout. That 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:02.600 was nice. That was that was it was beautiful. That 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:05.079 was beautiful for him to tell that story. And now 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:07.920 him he's doing a trade Von Martin story. I feel 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:10.079 like doing a movie and the doctor trade mar and 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:14.280 I think that's really smart. Um and and um something 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.679 that needs to be done. Yeah, because we need that, 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:20.559 like for our community. Because um, I just feel like 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:23.040 it's balanced. I feel like levels fell backwards. This level, 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:24.600 we've gotta balance it. And I feel like that's the 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:27.199 perfect way. It's just it's because there's so many of 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:31.640 us more in our community, a walk more than they read. Yeah, 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:37.040 exactly exactly. I mean, I mean it's what I do. 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:40.160 I like to do films that are life, make people think, 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:42.760 but also entertained, so then they have to watch it 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.320 several times and be like, you know, did I really 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.760 see that in there? Hold on that another time? So 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:51.839 you know, even when I make a film that that 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:54.920 it's really really has heavy issues in it. It Uh, 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:57.920 it's entertaining. You know what I'm saying. You don't really notice, 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:04.080 you know, now poetic This role ice Cube role was 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:09.840 originally to excuse me, Tupac's role was originally ice Cubes. Yeah, yeah, exactly, 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:16.600 and Cube said he wanted to do do was okay, And 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:20.520 now why why at the time we see Tupac and Juice. 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:23.560 We see Tupac everywhere else. But what makes you say 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:28.520 I'm gonna make Tupac riding the mall band with Jackson 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:32.800 he killed? Because um, I mean, you know he was. 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:35.520 It's crazy because I didn't even give it a second 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:37.880 thought because you know, I realized Pocket just and it 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:40.720 hadn't even come out yet. Oh yeah, but I heard 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:42.440 you say you saw the movie in advance. I saw 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:44.880 the movie were in advance. I said, okay, let's let's dude. 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:47.800 You know, I wasn't I wasn't thinking about him to 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:49.760 be in poor jestice. I was still thinking about cute 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:51.680 and I was like, we gotta do something together. So 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:55.240 we chopped it up and just like you know, and 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:57.839 he just he just got back because he had got 0:10:57.840 --> 0:10:59.199 into l A and I was like, we gotta do 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:02.240 something together. So when Cube said what he said, I said, okay. 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:04.120 I called up him and I said, you know you 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:05.840 want to do it? He said, yeah, yeah, I'll do it. 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:11.480 You know, now, boys in the Hood, Boys and Hook 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:14.920 comes out first, right, the minister society comes out. Yes. 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:20.920 I gotta ask a petty question, what's the time. What's 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:25.240 that time between them? Just two years? Did you ever 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:33.760 think like they could have it? I was not hug Brothers. Yeah, yeah, 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:35.560 we never heard your side of the story because I 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:38.600 kind of felt like, oh ship, they just madetion with 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:41.120 that movie too. Well, No, they just made they made 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:44.040 an interesting film that was more violent than my movie. 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:47.280 My movie was my movie was? I say, it was 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:52.120 more kind of embedded in what um, what my personal 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:55.440 experience was in the studio that made Mini Society said 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:57.200 that we gotta have some pans too. There was you know, 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:00.760 there's a lot of movies, but in retrospect, when Society 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:03.160 is the best of all of those movies that came 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:05.760 after Boys, you know, because there's a lot of movies 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:08.600 that they tried to copy. It was like, you know, yea, 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:12.280 but but you know, in fact, my favorite character and 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:15.720 the Society's old dog, because he was he was like 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:18.920 most asociated, right, you know, to Pap was supposed to 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:22.319 play this character, this other character, that another dude that 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:24.760 was in Boys Fante Sweet play he was a more 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:31.440 conscious brother. Oh that's right. I was a teacher that right, 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:33.480 and then he had court Beef and the Hughes brothers 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:40.760 and to So so what is what? What? What? What? 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:43.400 What is? John Singleton? What are you sitting back and 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:45.360 saying that, you know, happy that you didn't produce I 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:46.959 know you're doing a lot of TV what I was, 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:52.240 But what do you enjoy like when you yeah, I 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:57.079 mean like in terms of like just life and stuff, movies, TV. 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:59.080 I know you're doing too much TV to watch TV. 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:02.840 I'm too much TV to watch TV. I don't even 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:04.640 get a chance to really watch my TV because I'm 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:07.600 making TV right now. I mean, like, you know, I 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:10.480 like movies and stuff and everything, but the movies, the 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:13.320 movies now are not you know, I don't feel that 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:18.000 they're they don't push hard enough in terms of the 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:20.319 culture as much as possible, you know what I'm saying. 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:22.480 You know what I mean, Like in terms of mainstream movies, 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:25.719 you know, um, and that needs to be done, you 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.280 know what I mean, because like because like like Boys 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:30.600 in the Hood was so much of an important message. 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:32.960 It's just like, yo, you know, you can live the 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:37.199 street life, but there's actually consequence. Exactly, there's actually and 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:40.600 that's what hip hop sometimes fails to tell. We only 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:46.880 always yeah, I don't know you're gonna do nine years, 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:49.040 you know what I'm saying. Not at the other end 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:51.480 of it, Yeah, exactly, No, I'm out about the reality 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:53.199 of it, you know what I'm saying. What was that 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.760 like your goal? Because I know no, oh wow, My 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.400 goal was just basically a telling story. I was just like, 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:02.600 you know, just like trying to get something off my chest, 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:07.679 that an experience that I lived, that that I lived through, um, 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:10.960 and that a lot of my family and friends had 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:14.240 had left through. So that was always about what if 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:20.320 ice Cube said no to play dough Boy would want 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:24.880 to go there? Think of nobody, where will we be 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:27.280 now he didn't play the part man, it was like, 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:29.880 you know, I think he was robbed up Oscar nomination. 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:33.400 I think he should because it's one of those timeless 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:37.560 performances that that just exists. You know what I'm saying. 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:39.280 And I'm gonna be honest with you when I look 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:41.640 at like, if I want to describe the West Coast, 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:45.560 how I first visualized the West Coast, I wouldn't start 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.320 at Poison. Yeah, I would start there and be like 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:51.040 you work around there. I actually go there first and 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:57.480 then call us. I cursed it when I was a 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:02.160 school with film East Coast, so I don't no, but 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:05.120 it wasn't real. It was it was derivative. It wasn't 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:07.880 because it wasn't done by by by black people. It 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:09.720 was like it was like, you know, it was like 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:13.880 there was nothing about that that thing that was really true, 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:16.800 truly whatever. You know, like people were more caricatures and 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:20.640 caricatures they weren't real, you know. And then so you know, 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:23.760 so now I gotta get to the million dollar question. 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:29.640 Listen why is it John Singleton directing this Tupac, Why 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:32.920 I feel like you gotta get another shot. I feel 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:34.680 like you gott get another shot because we want the 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:38.280 real answer, and I'm gonna take one with you. I'm 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:40.440 not gonna busy myself on this. And then because you know, 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:45.440 you're gonna bring up fashions and you know, and everything 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:48.800 and stuff, because because it's documented that you guys are friends, 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:52.960 it was like nobody can't dispute that. Well, just say 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:54.920 that the people that that got the rights to do 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:57.320 the movie, they had different ideas on how to do 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:00.480 the movie than I did. And that's part of it 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:02.800 at some point, right, Yeah, it was yeah in the beginning, 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.800 right exactly. Well no, not as it came in through 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:07.960 and everything. But you know, let them, let them make 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:10.520 that move and let's see how it does and let's 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:13.640 see what's because you're personally involved, So does that ever 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:17.280 like like mess up in your creative process? Like because 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:19.720 I'm personally of all, that means I'm more focused and 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:23.520 born like you know, I'm more like get it, you 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:26.440 know what I'm saying. Like that means I'm I'm you know, 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:28.120 as I'm saying better, you know, what I'm saying, I'm 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:30.160 down on the ground. I'm ready to shoot, you know 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.640 what I mean? Like that makes it more powerful that 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:36.480 I'm more personally involved. And you know if Bennie Boom 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:39.000 haven't even met too, funk, I don't want to go. 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:41.040 Beny is my friends. By's my friends too. But I'm 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:44.280 just thinking, I'm just I don't care. You got that, yes, boy? 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:47.400 Every time I say something bad about with Betty Cosby 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:50.480 and said, you know, so, it's like, you know, I 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:52.200 don't even want to touch you right now. You know, 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:55.240 let the movie come out. Y'all make your own judgment 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:57.320 what you want to say about the movie. But if 0:16:57.360 --> 0:17:00.520 you had your choice, how would you have done it? 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:02.040 Because I think I don't know if you've seen like 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:05.399 the Outlaw guys, he had just said something, Yeah, he 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:07.399 accused you of saying that he wanted he wanted to 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:10.080 put a rape scene of Tupac in. Then well, there's 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:12.200 a whole lot of things that that that they were 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:16.480 not having the movie, that that actually happened, that they 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:18.760 won't want to We're not saying Tupac got raped. There's 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:20.560 a whole lot of things that happened. There's a whole 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:23.240 lot of stuff. That's the stuff that why why who 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:26.159 actually was involved in his death? Why didn't die? And 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:28.520 I'm saying, well, the lead up to his death, know 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:30.280 what I'm saying. Like, so I don't know what they 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:32.320 did with the movie. So you know, it's like I 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:33.840 can't even speak on it because I don't know what 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:36.080 that did with the movie. And I won't watch the movie, 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:38.200 you know what I mean? But if you had your choice, 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:40.119 how would you did the movie? If you'd have had 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:42.240 your choice, how would you did the movie? How would 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:45.280 I did the movie? Like, I'm not saying that over podcast. 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:49.160 Ye I'm gonna make you know, I make them right movie, 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:52.560 I'm you know, not to understand. And I don't want 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:56.120 to speak on this over and over there. I come from, 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:59.400 I come from, I come from you know. Um Tipac 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:02.440 was born nineteen seventy one. I was one n seventy eight. 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:05.920 We are revolutionary babies. It's a difference between being a 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:10.840 revolutionary baby and being someone who's just hip hop, you 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:13.120 know what I mean. We were built, you know, for 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:16.679 the betterment of our people. We were built for to 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:18.919 bring everybody up, you know what I'm saying. And a 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:21.840 whole lot of stuff that happened, and and and in 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:25.760 terms of black black liberation was faltered because black people 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:28.800 were not in solidarity with each other, you know what 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:32.879 I'm saying. So you know that's what I'm saying. I 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:34.399 don't want to be. I don't want to be that 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:37.359 person that keeps on having dissension or whatever. That they've 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:39.960 made the movie. They stole the rights from his mother, 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:44.840 so they made the movie they want to make. And 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:46.800 hopefully one day I will get a chance to tell 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:49.520 that story. But otherwise I got all this other ship 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:53.640 that I'm trying to do that is is in line 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:56.520 with what my principles are as a person and as 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:58.440 a black man, and that I'm going to do. So 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:00.320 that's that's all I want to speak. To make some 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:02.360 noise for that. Damn, let's make some noise for that. 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:06.160 Someone still trying to make a part movie in the future. Yeah, 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:08.119 of course, I think you should do a commentary or 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:09.680 at least at least. No. No, this has to be. 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:11.600 It has to be a movie. It's it's too it's 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:14.399 too it's too it's too important not to just make 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:16.080 a movie. I mean, like, you know, there's so many 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:20.200 different things around life, who he was as a person, 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:23.840 you know, and why people can be inspired by it, right, 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:27.040 you know, now it's such it's such a great story. So, 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:29.399 um when I hear, like, you know, when people have 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:33.320 differences with it, I always listen because, um, I never 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:35.840 got to meet Tupac A. Yeah, I never got to 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:38.560 meet Tupac. Actually, uh he actually hung out in my 0:19:38.640 --> 0:19:42.680 hood and I was in jail, So I actually never 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:45.280 got to meet Tupac. So I'm always this is actually 0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:47.840 me as a fan. They just asking. But now you 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:51.040 also got to work with somebody who's also legendary and 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:54.440 who also I think is innocent. Um O J. Simpson, 0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:57.040 you got to work with Old J. I don't have 0:19:57.119 --> 0:20:00.879 to work with him. I met him before. I met 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:03.560 him before, but I did. I did a episode of 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:08.199 the show based on the people first Old J. Okay, Now, 0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:10.400 how was that? Like? It was good, it was interesting, 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:12.359 it was fun, it was like, you know, it was 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:16.080 good because, um, he changed l A after that, but 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:21.560 he changed he changed culture. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:26.840 I mean, I mean what I mean is like we 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:30.240 just looked at l A like from the couture, like 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:32.040 at this coast point of view, we were just like 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:36.560 old because yeah, here that's weird. I mean, it was 0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:38.639 just weird. It was just I mean because like we 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:42.159 never knew we thought only our cops was racist. We 0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:44.800 never knew that outside of our ship, this as other 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:46.760 people that's racist. You know what I'm saying. Like we 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:49.439 didn't travel. But after Old J, it was like clear, 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:52.840 it was just like, holy mole, guacamole, this is what's 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:55.760 going down. But I never thought Old J did it. 0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:58.840 And I met Old J as well. When we met him, 0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:02.840 it was right, you know, I met him twice, you know, 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:08.919 can do kid? Yeah, you know our neighbor. Yeah, he 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:13.040 was at that time. Yeah, and he was walking out 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:15.080 the best. But he said, my leg is killing me. 0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:16.800 And I thought that was the funniest thing in the world. 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:20.080 And he said that I don't get he was limping, 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:21.480 something was wrong with his leg. And he goes, my 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:24.720 leg is killing me. Just sat killing Yeah, bad lads, 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:27.159 bad leg. But I just you know, you know what 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:29.680 it is. I don't go around like real killers, right, 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:34.240 and like this. It's always a certain instinct about exactly, 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:36.879 and he didn't have it exactly. He did not have it. 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:39.040 But I got to say the story about when we 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:41.120 met him at the concert. What he said, you gotta 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:43.680 tell the story, please. I feel like I feel like 0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:46.600 you don't co sign like that you're talking about it. 0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:50.080 So what concert? It was something? It was a radio station, 0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:52.280 you know they do like summer jams and the concert 0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:54.680 Fort Myers. So my record Labe would tell me, don't 0:21:54.760 --> 0:22:01.120 stand next to old Jacks had posting it. He's it's 0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:04.600 the oddest thing in the world. It's me host. Honestly, 0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:07.480 this is crazy. So we're all backstage done with him 0:22:07.520 --> 0:22:10.920 and his boys and his crew at that time. His 0:22:11.000 --> 0:22:16.800 boys called murder Uni murder. Oh Jay comes back, and 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:20.120 then everybody's like, let's take a picture together. And there's 0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:23.520 this infamous picture when when he snapping the shot, one 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:31.119 of his boys says, you Richard. He said, yeah, it 0:22:31.240 --> 0:22:43.040 was all it was. So you clearly remember that I'm 0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:46.080 making this. I thought it was me who said it's 0:22:46.520 --> 0:22:50.920 I'm looking at him. Then this thing like oh hell yeah. 0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:55.199 But I'm honestly I never thought yeah yeah. And this 0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:57.760 is before Instagram. But we do gotta picture that the figure. 0:22:57.760 --> 0:22:59.080 We don't have a picture of that moment, but we 0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:01.439 gotta picture of that night. No, you have a picture 0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:10.280 of when he said that, right, yeah, alright, but that 0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:12.840 was awesome working on that because you from you from 0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:16.119 that time, you live through that exactly. So is it 0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:18.880 better for you to be passionate about the project. It's 0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:21.800 much better for me to be like passionate about it 0:23:21.960 --> 0:23:25.200 taking personal like you know, just feel it in my heart, 0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:28.200 you know, And that's you know, that's what it's about. 0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:30.520 Have you ever done something for the money? It was 0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:33.399 just like this is just for the money, yeah, you know, 0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:35.080 but it doesn't work out, like it doesn't work out 0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:37.719 too well. Explain that to you. It's like it's just 0:23:37.760 --> 0:23:41.840 you have to whenever you do something you know, artistic, 0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:44.520 whether or not, even if you're getting paid for it, 0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:46.399 it's better to do it for the passion of it, 0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:49.119 for the heart of it. And she really feel it that, 0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:51.359 you know. It's just you know, in your blood, like 0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:53.959 you would do anything, you know, you kill somebody if 0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:55.600 they funk with your ship, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:59.000 you know, that's that's that's how I am about certain things, 0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:00.440 you know what I mean when I'm doing or something, 0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:03.280 you know, and not everybody's about that. People are just 0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:05.720 you know, they're just going about the jobs and you know, 0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:08.479 whatever it is for me, I'm like, I'm like Laser, 0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:12.160 I'm like, I gotta get it, you know, I feel 0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:14.160 like I feel like I just I mean, I mean, 0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:16.880 you know, I know you for years, I know you 0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:21.520 your real drinking years, right, But I feel like I 0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:24.800 feel like that's what drives you. It's passionate first, and 0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:27.520 you feel it in the world because you like, when 0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:30.320 you're watching something, you feel it. You feel it passion. 0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:32.800 That's why I can get people to do things that 0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:35.199 they would they would do with me, but they wouldn't 0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:36.600 do what other people. You know what I'm saying, Like, 0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:40.399 you know, like scenes and baby boy everything, you know 0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:50.359 what I mean. Like it's great, right, you already know 0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:52.760 what the drink Chance is gonna be watching Sunday, June 0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:57.119 at eight pm Eastern seven pm Central. BT Awards two 0:24:57.160 --> 0:25:00.000 thousand seventeen is live hosted by no other than comedian 0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:02.480 and Leslie Jones. 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We're back 0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:09.000 to Drink Champs Radio with Rapper and R and d J. 0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:16.879 Then now, now, what was the moment in life that 0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:22.160 you passed on um but you regret it? Like something 0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:26.000 wasn't there passed him? Didn't you pass on the wire? Yeah? 0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:30.959 I passed. I just didn't think like doing the whole thing. No, No, 0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:33.080 the first season, I didn't. I didn't know it was 0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:35.480 gonna be what it was, but it was. By the 0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:37.439 time it got into this like thirst season, I was like, 0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:40.240 wait a minute, because corners corners came before and corners 0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:43.120 it wasn't that great. Corners is all right, but it wasn't. 0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:46.159 But the wire, it wasn't that why it was. The 0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:48.280 wire was lit, you know what I mean? It was lit. 0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:51.680 It was so lit. It was like I really, yeah 0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:54.800 it did. So who you get the call for the wires? 0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:57.600 HPO or the agent called me. I was like, I'm 0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:01.320 not gonna do that. I was like, is that the 0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:03.240 only thing you ever passed on? You regret it? Or 0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:05.280 the only thing I can remember right now? You know? 0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:13.359 You know, now, is there anything that like, uh, you 0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:18.440 have set out to do? You did it and then 0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:21.520 you was disappointed in the outcome? No, not at all. 0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:23.040 I mean, like, you know, I think of my work 0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:33.280 that thousand right now, you know, so you know, I'm 0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:37.600 still still hitting it really hard, you know, I'm I'm 0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:40.160 gonna do you know, some my TV and up tell 0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:43.000 and do some of my movies. But everything I do 0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:46.240 is gonna be real passionate and hitting it really really hard. 0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:48.639 Now what do you like better? Though? I know you're 0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:51.520 you're doing the same thing TV, TV or the same 0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:53.320 thing and it's the same thing. It's the same thing 0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:54.840 to me. It's the same thing to me. You watch 0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:57.919 anything that I produced on TV, it looks, you know, 0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:01.520 like one of my any less or more work. No, no, now, 0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:05.000 we got Rebel on BT correctly, and you gotta permit 0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:09.000 for Rebel tonight. Yeah, an that episode today? Okay? And 0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:12.720 what is this act? So people couldn't oh this is private? 0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:16.760 What what the Rebel premiere tonight? Oh no, no, in 0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:18.480 the night? This it's not in the night. But you 0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:21.560 know you said you do it every week before the joints, 0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:23.080 so we would like to go, oh yeah, we just 0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:25.720 have a little thing in sin Lounge in the in 0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:30.600 the valley in San Fernando Valley. It's like bab um 0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:33.159 So on the Lancashire. You know, it's a little spot. 0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:37.640 So what's the next thing for black media? Like, okay, 0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:41.000 Birth of the Nation came out, It didn't work right, 0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:44.800 because it felt like it was. It worked. It just 0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:48.040 got squashed, it got it got squashed. So what's the 0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:50.840 movie got squashed because they didn't want that movie to 0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:53.320 come out? You know, you know with the Black Lives 0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:55.920 Matter stuff and all stuff, they that movie. They squashed 0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:58.920 that movie. You know what I mean. That's the real time. 0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:01.040 It's very true. That's talk that squash the movie. And 0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:03.840 and black people are kind of like, you know, they 0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:06.000 have a completit of squashing that movie. But as a 0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:10.520 movie director, was the movie? Uh? Good? Period? The movie 0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:12.120 was good. It was good movie. It was good. It's 0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:14.400 a good movies good. Okay, you see the movies. I 0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:18.000 didn't know you see the movie. I've been running around. 0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:20.880 I've been running around. I ain't see my old movie. 0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:26.080 I can do my old movie right now. But listen, man, um, 0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:29.520 we need more directors like you, right. We need more 0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:32.440 people who are passionate and they work. So so if 0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:35.560 a person is listening to this podcast and they that's 0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:40.040 their goals, that's there there there, that's the that's what 0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:42.760 they want to achieve, how do you get started? Because 0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:46.600 now these kids can just buy the equipment. Like when 0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:49.640 you started, that was you had to be almost rich 0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:52.360 to get cameras. Yeah, but you have to you have 0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:54.760 to look at to do it really really well, you 0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:56.720 have to study it. You have to study what came 0:29:56.800 --> 0:30:01.959 before and in the style and tone, um you know, 0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:04.440 and and theme and you have to like be round 0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:08.160 read about how story story you know people, you know, 0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:12.120 how stories to propagate universally, you know what I mean, um, 0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:14.960 in different languages and stuff, right, And that's what you know. 0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:18.040 That's what made me do what I create and create 0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:20.080 and then and then you create your style when you 0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:23.160 went to film school though, Yeah, but before film school 0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:25.000 I was doing all that. And even after film school, 0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:27.840 I kept learning. I'm learning all the time, you know. 0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:30.720 So if a younger record director is sitting out there 0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:33.360 and they feel like they're creative, they feel like they 0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:36.040 can write, what's the first step you suggest for the 0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:40.720 UH to watch all movies and watch movies from around 0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:43.880 the world, hard, hard far back. You think they should 0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:47.080 watch movies to the beginning of cinema, to the beginning 0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:49.160 of the moving picture. You have to you have to 0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:52.600 study it. Be a student of the game. Student of 0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:56.960 the game. Now now you you rolled off all colors? 0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:03.239 Is American meat really authentic. That was a great I mean, 0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:08.080 I'm not saying that because I'm not good. How about 0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:15.520 blood and blood out? That was the color? Were doing 0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:17.400 another shot. I don't let me doing those. Come on, 0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:20.040 you gotta do. You're gonna to a party. You're on 0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:22.560 your way to you so rich man were here, you 0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:26.280 got yacht to all type of things, and you know 0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:29.000 what your humble god, but almost I'm a brag for 0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:33.960 brag for you backdam I'm brack for you man. You 0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:35.640 know what I mean. We're gonna listen. I don't know 0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:37.520 if you know what our show was about. Giving all 0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:41.000 legends flowers when they can smell them, and treats when 0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:44.240 they get in hell them because our our society so 0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:47.120 much praise as a person after they die, and I 0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:50.200 feel like that is so backwards. Yeah, I should be 0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:52.360 able to tell you how much I appreciate you right 0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:55.440 here and face to face man and man, as opposed 0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:57.440 to waiting for you to pass away and then be like, yeah, 0:31:57.440 --> 0:31:59.200 he's a great guy, me and him party they get 0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:01.600 back in the day. I should say that now, like 0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:03.920 you know what I'm saying, like, and I actually learned 0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:07.120 that through Dave Chappelle. You know when the way it 0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:09.880 was print and it was like he started praising Prince 0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:12.240 while Prince was alive. And it's just like, that's what 0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:14.480 we got to continue to do. And that's not just 0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:17.400 as a culture, that's as as people, like as human 0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:20.720 human beings. As human beings, we gotta start praising our people. 0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:23.080 Why are they're here? So with that being said, how 0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:27.360 wasn't working with Janet Jackson penny? You know, come on, 0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:29.600 it's beautiful. It was jerked off the penny a lot. 0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:32.520 Throw that out there. It was good. I don't know 0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:36.480 that's serious. The whole age thing. No, that was not serious. 0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:38.120 That was a joke that we was having on the set. 0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:42.640 Because the real talk is Tupac was attracted de Jana. 0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:48.120 I was attracted de Jana. The world was. We're in 0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:52.560 the set, we're both trying to like, you know, floodwater 0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:55.000 and stuff, and I'm like, you know what, I don't know, 0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:57.080 if you know, I should have you kissing on my 0:32:57.400 --> 0:33:00.480 actress because you know, you've been fucking around all this ship. 0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:03.240 You know, Pop was just coming to his own then, right, 0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:05.920 And I was like, man, that was like, yeah, you 0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:07.360 know what you're gonna have to do an as test 0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:09.080 for y'all do this left scene. It was a joke, 0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:13.080 but he said, no, no, you know it's me saw 0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:15.880 not my nigger on the side right before, just like 0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:18.960 talking sh and then we're like, oh, ship, we should 0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:21.040 we should we should use this, we should put this 0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:23.560 out there. So that's what we did as a publicity thing. 0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:26.520 As a publicity thing, we just did that shot. But 0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:29.680 it's just like us talking about Twitter got mad at 0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:32.440 Jackson about it, but it was just us talking on 0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:34.440 the ship, on the set and everything this and you know, 0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:37.040 it was an inside Joe. That's when it works. Now, 0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:39.640 not only did you get to work with Janet Jackson, 0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:44.080 you got to work with the big man, Mike Jackson. 0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:46.240 Did he have a glove one when you met him. No, 0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:48.240 he didn't have a guy. He's where he wore the 0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:51.920 old like a lot and he did. He did. It's 0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:54.520 a crazy because in his in his problem was you 0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:57.360 see it Michael on camera and stuff. He didn't talk 0:33:57.400 --> 0:34:00.160 the way that he talks, you know, and you say 0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:02.960 that like Mike was a nigger, like mich was like 0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:09.400 different difference every tune and everything that. Yeah, you know, 0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:12.560 I'm just saying that just that was a petition that 0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:14.440 he put on for the cameras. He didn't he wouldn't 0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:15.799 talk about it. He was just a brother. He was 0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:18.640 a different every different to me and everything. It's just like, 0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:21.120 you know, he's just like hey, you know. And he 0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:23.680 was really despite what he you know, he ended up 0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:27.359 doing to his face and his skin got lighter and everything. 0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:29.720 He was a real brother man. It was really about 0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:34.319 black people because I heard that video. He actually that 0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:38.440 was after Magic actually announced and he wanted to do 0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:41.960 something and Mike wanted Mike wanted Magic in the video. 0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:43.680 He said, you know, caling Magic, Let's get him in 0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:46.799 the video. Remember the time, remember the time. I hate 0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:53.560 that ship in my head, right, I ain't gonna lie. 0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:55.640 I couldn't have met Michael Jackson. I would have like 0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:57.520 I would have gave him. I would gave him on 0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:02.880 fire too hard games a great oh not Nature gave 0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:08.440 us the crazy Michael Jackson. But so how was it? 0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:11.799 Was he a pure genius? Like was he everything? He was? 0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:14.400 His damn their genius? I mean Dan Mar genius. I 0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:17.319 mean like you know the things that that that he 0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:20.600 did and that he uh and that he wanted to 0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:26.480 do and stuff, you know, like unprecedented in this business. 0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:31.479 Have you ever been um starstruck? Yeah? Who, I gotta 0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:33.480 hear this. I mean, I've only been star shot two 0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:35.520 times in my whole career. I need to hear both. 0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:39.680 Let's go for it. The first was meeting Steven Spielberg 0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:44.000 because it's like, you know, as a kid going up, 0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:47.560 you know, like he was, you know, the the young 0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:51.000 person that went on to make movies at an early age, 0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:54.680 and I wanted to be like that. Um, just nervous 0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:56.879 to you know, I saw him and that it was 0:35:56.920 --> 0:35:59.600 as soon as I saw him and we met, just 0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:02.960 was like it was like, um, you know it was. 0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:04.920 It was as great you know, he's like the golfather 0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:10.040 godfather filmmaking and filmmaker. The second was what your prior 0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:15.680 rich Probor. I remember was prior at the comedy store. 0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:17.600 I was. I used to hang out the comp store. 0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:19.640 As soon as you tell you char prior, I thought, 0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:22.680 the comedy store and so uh. And it's funny because 0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:24.880 Richard probably was hanging out with opportuna comedy club was 0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:32.280 Hollywood this with Alpat Richard probably saying that with Opportuno 0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:37.960 and I can't even your life is dope and I'm like, 0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:39.680 let's throw that out there. I don't even look at 0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:43.879 opportune and I'm looking at much private. But Richard used 0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:45.840 to have this do that work for him. Um it 0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:49.680 came over to me, um and and he said, uh, 0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:53.160 you know, uh, Richard would like to say hello, J 0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:56.399 And I walked across to him and Richard was kind 0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:58.400 of frail. Here the ms was getting him. But it 0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:00.799 wasn't as bad. It wasn't wheelchair. Yeah, it wasn't built 0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:04.279 your both and he just said, uh uh, you young 0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:06.279 man that made that movie poison the hood just came 0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:08.479 out and I said, yes, sir, I am. And mind 0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:11.600 you because you're like me. You listen to every rich 0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:21.880 pe Mama had s birth curse. He said, are you 0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:24.680 the man that mad the movie? I said, yes, sir, yeah, 0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:27.000 and he goes against me a hut niger. I just 0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:30.480 cried on the shoulder I saw, I said, because because 0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:33.239 this is a man. And then after that we became friends. 0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:34.640 I used to go up to his house and he 0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:36.719 said he'd be sitting up in the bed. He had 0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:39.400 a gun right by the side of his bed. This 0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:43.160 mother had a gun right next to and every comedian 0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:46.520 Wayne's brothers, whoever it was, he pulled guns out. No, No, 0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:50.880 these people would come through. They would come through every 0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:54.600 day to pay homashed Richard. And this before he really 0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:57.319 got sick. So it's like, you know, we were just 0:37:58.200 --> 0:37:59.840 he was on his way to being sick. That's what 0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:02.080 was coming. He was sick, but he was coming to 0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:04.200 pay homages. Just to pay hommy. They were they know 0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:06.960 there was coming pan house, because you just want to 0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:08.279 be around with you probably if you want to be 0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:10.680 a comedian, you want to be around with your pride, 0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:13.640 and so um, we were just sitting chop it up 0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:15.719 and he was just you know, it was just tell me, 0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:20.080 how about other business? How about that movie? You should 0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:23.719 be a part of that movie. I can't do them all, man. 0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:28.479 I would love to. I would love to, yeah, because yeah, 0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:32.640 he was. He was ultimate storyteller. And I still take 0:38:32.680 --> 0:38:35.279 a lot from him as a storyteller in terms of 0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:39.480 the way that he with Ben. Stuff been lines and 0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:42.120 he would just you know, he was the he was 0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:44.920 the storyteller the streets. If you think about all the 0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:48.040 stuff that Joseph you listened to him, they were really 0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:52.719 sad stories, some of them. Don exactly. He was like 0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:54.839 Don going to the Pemper comedy, so people knew how 0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:57.160 to do that. So I so when I take a 0:38:57.200 --> 0:38:59.879 lot from him in terms of like when I when 0:38:59.880 --> 0:39:02.680 I tell a story, I just toestuff that maybe a 0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:06.640 little sad but funny, funny but sad, you know what 0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:09.520 I'm saying, because that's what life is. Life. It's not 0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:11.120 just one thing, you know what I mean. We go 0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:13.600 to movies and say, oh, that's just a comedy. That 0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:15.640 movie is just a serious movie. When you watch one 0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:18.279 of my movies, it's it's a reflection of life. So 0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:22.279 I mean Richard, Richard is an ultimate storyteller. To me, 0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:28.040 what we ever have uh dope error like that? Again, 0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:31.239 like the nineties cinema, would that ever be turn a 0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:33.040 different way? I think we had a different way. I 0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:36.040 think we're having a different way. I think the as 0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:39.680 own as has been more voices that are really uncut, 0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:44.800 impure and just like you know, not afraid to maybe 0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:47.440 necessary offend some people, you know what I mean, Like 0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:49.719 you know that's what it's about. It's not you know, 0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:51.600 I don't think people push it as far as they 0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:54.680 could push it in terms of uh of any anything. 0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:58.440 You know. Now, it was Empire, like your first TV 0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:00.799 That wasn't your first TV it was. It was my 0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:04.680 first TV show directing on Yeah, what did you work 0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:07.000 on TV before prior to part? I mean I was 0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:09.799 on TV shows, but I never directed. That's the first 0:40:09.800 --> 0:40:12.439 one I worked on. But you know that came about 0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:15.759 because you know, without Empire, that without me, that would 0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:22.120 be not st get real talk Okay, because Hustle and 0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:27.200 Flow Yeah you you invested in herself. Flow paid said 0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:31.120 for the whole movie. Yeah wow, so that was Lee Daniels. No, no, 0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:36.439 I supposed me what was supposed produced some Flow Okay, okay, okay, okay, 0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:39.680 but Lee funded from them get the whole whole thing. 0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:42.440 So what does Lee Daniels had to do with nothing? 0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:46.160 He had not He made He made Empire. Oh, Terence, 0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:50.600 you got my veterans from Horse and Flow to do 0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:54.680 a TV show. Oh that's with the relationship, you know. 0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:57.920 But we are brothers. You know that. It's beautiful to 0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:00.600 see us win and celebrate us winning, all of us 0:41:00.640 --> 0:41:03.120 as people. It's just it's about time. That of the 0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:05.000 show is about man, The show ain't about you know. 0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:08.040 You go on certain you know, internet shows and you 0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:11.320 can see negative ship we just celebrate all people. We drink, 0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:13.919 we smoke. I was about to ask you you're gonna smoke, 0:41:14.040 --> 0:41:16.680 but I feel like you've got sponsors. No, I don't 0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:26.480 know sponsors if I want to, but I want to. 0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:31.000 I don't want you to get my friend. You take it, 0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:33.200 You're take it. Take it man like. I just want 0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:36.279 to thank you man for um for being a part 0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:38.680 of this. You know, this is just just like again, 0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:41.840 we want to continue to celebrate our culture, our lifestyle, 0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:44.480 all ways of life and just continue to get back 0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:47.120 to the community and just have fun doing it. It's 0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:49.640 so much you know, dumb ship happened in the world. 0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:52.040 When people turn on the news and you get sad, 0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:54.640 I would rather they turn on this and get happy, 0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:56.600 happy yond they you know what I'm saying, You're gonna 0:41:56.640 --> 0:42:00.600 put me in the movie or somethinghere, gona like anything. 0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:06.680 I'm whatever I've been. I've been trying to get one 0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:11.600 of the first year he's my friend. I'm like, I'm talking, 0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:14.640 I gotta get in one one Like it's just it's 0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:19.719 it's that you called I MB, M, D D. You 0:42:19.760 --> 0:42:23.080 know I'm foul, Hollywood. I need the I, M, B 0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:26.600 and D and B. No I need more than my list. 0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:29.440 I'm good. I want to do East Coast movies. I 0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:32.680 want to try to play a West Coast crib movie 0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:35.880 on the West Coast. I did The hard Heart, the 0:42:35.920 --> 0:42:38.799 one don't you ever watching? It's called seven? Oh did 0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:42.640 I just say? And I played the Black Guy died 0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:49.720 as soon as you chop my head off, I fucking 0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:56.960 chop my head off. That's that's so black. That's a 0:42:57.000 --> 0:43:00.839 horrid movie. We don't lask a horror movies in real life. 0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:04.279 I think I would survive hard, Like if you put 0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:06.520 me in some scary shot, like you know what, I 0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:08.680 rably get shot at though that's a hard movie to me. 0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:11.799 I rably get shot at. And then a snake chase me, like, 0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:15.240 I gotta I got no experience in the snake chase, 0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:19.279 Like I've got got that before, no good behind the call, 0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:24.879 wait all your gold like, but now for snake chase me. 0:43:25.719 --> 0:43:28.440 That's not my element, Like I'm gonna just be like, 0:43:28.480 --> 0:43:31.520 wait a minute, hold, well, I'm getting bit. I'm dying. 0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:33.759 If a snake hit me, I'm dying. I got no 0:43:33.880 --> 0:43:37.800 experience with that. We got we gotta make real reality shows. 0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:39.960 You know what they've got fair factor. You gotta mean 0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:46.400 like hood factor, like fiery shot at some hood? Second, 0:43:46.440 --> 0:43:49.080 what good if you shot at what's the internet? Don't 0:43:50.000 --> 0:43:52.000 you're able to give me someone put me on to this. 0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:56.799 It's a little suspect put it's something where they do 0:43:56.880 --> 0:43:59.839 goes chasing and it's it's a little crazy, little straight 0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:03.480 Now that we don't have those TV we got those services. 0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:06.960 Ghost is in the hood. We got we gotta wander 0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:09.080 that wakes up every day and say that's good morning. 0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:13.399 That ship is an experience, you know what I'm saying. 0:44:13.440 --> 0:44:16.160 Like every every hood's got a crazy person, right like 0:44:16.320 --> 0:44:20.560 every hood has a crazy person. It's the characters that 0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:23.480 you write as they based on real characters to tell 0:44:23.480 --> 0:44:26.480 a lot of them, especially the hood one. Yeah, exactly, 0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:28.040 there's some of the characters in the hood. You know, 0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:31.279 you're right, there's always a neighborhood characrazy person. There's always 0:44:31.080 --> 0:44:34.080 and everybody deals with they're crazy like they were like, 0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:38.600 yeah that's that she does like and stuff maybe one 0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:41.560 and then maybe on Sundays they're not crazy And I 0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:43.439 don't feel like they're crazy to day, like I don't 0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:46.040 you know, and they don't the best advice and you 0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:50.160 don't listen to Yo, John John Man. I can't thank 0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:52.880 you enough. Man, Yo, you're such a legend. Man. You 0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:55.480 did so much for this game, You did so much 0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:58.480 for the for for for hip hop, and particularly by 0:44:58.560 --> 0:45:01.319 you always incorporated the hip hop artist even you got 0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:06.800 method man and right now, and you also do the facts. 0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:10.440 We didn't even risines and snow far. You know, it's 0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:12.759 a whole lot of you keep it hip hop incorporated. 0:45:12.760 --> 0:45:15.880 We appreciate that, man, because I do. You don't do. 0:45:15.920 --> 0:45:19.120 You a legend. You know, we were one of the 0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:22.560 best artists ever and you keep us alive and there's nothing. 0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:25.440 And you also was the first person to put a 0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:28.560 West Coast guy and the East Coast guy higher learning 0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:31.120 and busted us. Yeah, I don't know if you ever 0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:32.799 I don't know if you ever beat that. That was 0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:35.799 like the first That was like the first union from 0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:38.279 the West Coast and East coast is because we was 0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:42.040 high and learning at actually act and it was in 0:45:42.200 --> 0:45:44.120 l A. Okay. See, we never knew that on the 0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:47.640 East coast us. It was just that was neutral. It 0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:50.719 was like a good way the West Coast l East coast. 0:45:50.760 --> 0:45:53.200 Think this is crazy. You didn't know that, right, now 0:45:54.080 --> 0:45:56.279 you know just it's my folks. It's just people I 0:45:56.719 --> 0:46:00.080 was knowing at the time that you know it and 0:46:00.080 --> 0:46:02.759 I also here that that that that's how passionate you are. 0:46:02.800 --> 0:46:06.200 You like you like like the Adam Samma because Adam 0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:09.799 Sama always hired the same crew. You kind of hi 0:46:09.920 --> 0:46:12.440 the same crew like to put you know, people I know, 0:46:12.680 --> 0:46:14.520 and work with people I know you know, and we 0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:18.480 just we make something happen. You know. Is it easier 0:46:18.520 --> 0:46:20.080 that way when you work with somebody you know, because 0:46:20.080 --> 0:46:21.520 you know you can scream on him and you can 0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:24.399 text later and scream on I screamed on everybody. That's 0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:27.160 what everything you know. But but what I do is 0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:29.520 I make careers. Though what I'm saying, when people work 0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:32.319 for me, they end up doing other stuff. Though that's 0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:34.759 not just a flash in the pan. Oh get the 0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:38.279 latest rapper in the movie for facelook whatever. Like No, 0:46:38.440 --> 0:46:42.880 it's like people do up doing things, you know what. 0:46:42.880 --> 0:46:46.080 I've been trying to getting something for John Singleton. He 0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:48.000 wouldn't come out of the SOX line. I'm just weird. 0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:51.839 Like I'm down with John Singleton. That's my mother, my brother, 0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:53.880 Thank you so much with my brother. Be good. We 0:46:53.960 --> 0:46:57.440 got anything else? And do you want to come eat? Um? 0:46:57.640 --> 0:46:59.239 They got it all man, you know we got it 0:46:59.280 --> 0:47:02.080 all right, Yo, man, this has been an honor man, 0:47:02.200 --> 0:47:06.200 y'all first director, I am um first for drink chance, 0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:08.839 the first first drink in the first direction to that, 0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:12.520 I'll take another one out. Damn it. Don't don't don't 0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:14.759 don't tell me to have a good time. And now 0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:18.720 you're going to going to premiere Rebel. Also on effects 0:47:20.000 --> 0:47:25.200 on btthers on BT, snowfalls or effects stuff, the stuff 0:47:25.200 --> 0:47:27.399 all you didn't talk about stuffass, that's what I'm saying. 0:47:27.480 --> 0:47:30.000 Snow falls about the it's the beginning of the whole 0:47:30.160 --> 0:47:35.000 um crackt trade in at about cocaine tonight too. Then 0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:38.480 we've got two shows for ABC. Stuff that was in 0:47:38.480 --> 0:47:41.719 the summer. Tonight you have ABC. You got an ABC two. 0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:49.439 No l A Bernard, l A Bernard? Is it the anniverse? Hold? 0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:57.480 Do you realize how busy is he got another man? Yeah, 0:47:57.560 --> 0:48:05.440 let's make some noise for him. Burns about anniversary of 0:48:05.480 --> 0:48:08.880 the l A Riots. Damn, it's crazy. It's been that 0:48:08.960 --> 0:48:16.280 long already. That's after Rodney King. Yeah, that is old world. 0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:22.399 Rodney King got years ago. That's rare. Yeah, verdict. Yeah yeah, 0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:24.600 So let's let's break that down for the people who 0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:27.759 quickly we get about it here. Yeah, it's just you know, 0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:31.160 it's it's a's documentary about what happened and takes it 0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:33.920 from the street point of view of the people who 0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:39.960 basically from South since South central and uh, the Korean 0:48:40.000 --> 0:48:43.840 culture and the Latin of people who were really scarred 0:48:43.840 --> 0:48:47.040 by it were in the middle of it. Okay, when 0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:51.960 when you say Korean, the Koreans was varriety to their businesses. 0:48:52.080 --> 0:48:55.239 They were defending their their businesses from being looted. Yeah, 0:48:55.280 --> 0:48:56.560 you know what I mean, Like it was a war. 0:48:57.000 --> 0:48:59.320 There's a war zone, you know. Like so but we 0:48:59.680 --> 0:49:02.719 got you know, we got perspectives that no one else has. 0:49:02.960 --> 0:49:06.719 And in this documentary and what was the latinos saying 0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:10.760 coming from just um, well, the people in the documentary 0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:13.040 just they got caught up in it. They got actually 0:49:13.160 --> 0:49:14.640 you know, they got hurt by it. You know what 0:49:14.640 --> 0:49:16.400 I'm saying. But that's what I'm trying to tell you. 0:49:16.480 --> 0:49:19.839 Like my grandparents lived in Englewood and they called me 0:49:19.920 --> 0:49:25.040 during the riots. Blood. No, they everybody blood right, That's 0:49:25.040 --> 0:49:28.359 not that's not the truth. That's that's mixed. And they 0:49:28.400 --> 0:49:30.120 called me and they were telling me they were like, 0:49:30.680 --> 0:49:33.719 the Latinos are writing too, because it wasn't showing it 0:49:33.760 --> 0:49:36.560 on TV. They were they made that right pretty much 0:49:36.560 --> 0:49:40.520 a black and they were they were more Latino was 0:49:40.600 --> 0:49:42.399 right and then the black people riding, but they didn't 0:49:42.400 --> 0:49:43.879 want to show that. It says I'm not gonna front 0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:47.000 since my family's Cuban. They look, they're like, we're not Mexican. 0:49:47.160 --> 0:49:51.640 So they're like, the Mexicans are right, but it wasn't. 0:49:53.719 --> 0:49:57.080 But it was like, but it was Mexicans and Al Salvadorians, 0:49:58.000 --> 0:50:00.279 you know what I mean, Like people would who who 0:50:00.320 --> 0:50:05.080 basically are you used to like war situations that were 0:50:05.120 --> 0:50:08.120 like really going at it. It was like it was 0:50:08.160 --> 0:50:10.400 like let's go anarchy, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:50:10.400 --> 0:50:14.040 you know for war. They grew up in war. So 0:50:14.239 --> 0:50:15.919 they were like, hey, you know, i'm gonna get my car. 0:50:16.080 --> 0:50:18.359 I'm gonna put it up on pet boys, I'm gonna 0:50:18.360 --> 0:50:20.600 give me some new tires, I'm gonna put the transmission. 0:50:20.840 --> 0:50:23.960 People were doing transmissions and changing their cars. You know, 0:50:24.000 --> 0:50:26.280 we didn't show this in the documentary, but I'm saying, 0:50:26.600 --> 0:50:28.239 you know, should be doing that, you know what I mean, 0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:31.480 like doing the riot. So I mean, there's so many 0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:34.040 different stories to be told within that man, so many 0:50:34.040 --> 0:50:36.040 of this wild time. It was a wild it was 0:50:36.080 --> 0:50:38.680 wild time. And I know you're not gonna tell me this, 0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:42.160 but not feel like, what is John? What is your 0:50:42.239 --> 0:50:46.040 next move? My next one? Are you making the big 0:50:46.040 --> 0:50:49.359 pun movie with me? That would be an amazing movie, 0:50:50.400 --> 0:50:55.960 big movie. I don't know the whole story. You know 0:50:56.000 --> 0:50:58.160 what's really funny is because we was rolling the same 0:50:58.200 --> 0:51:03.480 time of nice like punt had all the bad conditions 0:51:05.480 --> 0:51:11.680 right now, all the funniest I was so jealous. I 0:51:11.800 --> 0:51:15.960 admit that right now, I was so jealous. Girls like 0:51:16.640 --> 0:51:19.239 he's not he's not, he's not, he's not fat like 0:51:19.280 --> 0:51:23.759 belly fat. He's fat the whole room and he has 0:51:23.840 --> 0:51:26.920 three or four around him, right And they were so 0:51:27.760 --> 0:51:30.440 kill me. But don't worry about it. Keeping they were 0:51:30.520 --> 0:51:34.120 so beautiful, like your face will hurt when you saw them. 0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:37.680 And we would hang out at Jimmy's Bronx. We were 0:51:37.760 --> 0:51:40.040 hanging with Jimmy's Bronx and it would just be like 0:51:40.080 --> 0:51:42.520 it would be girls coming from d R and from 0:51:43.080 --> 0:51:46.520 from Puerto Rico. They couldn't speaking laders that were like models, 0:51:47.800 --> 0:51:49.600 and every nigger that was a hip hop would be 0:51:49.600 --> 0:51:52.279 a Jenny's Bronx. That's right what I'm saying. That's right. Look, 0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:56.800 look you can tell. Yeah, you know. I used to 0:51:56.800 --> 0:51:59.560 walk up there and Joe would be there and be like, 0:51:59.560 --> 0:52:01.520 what do you want? It would be like we eat, 0:52:01.960 --> 0:52:04.719 you eat all you can eat, drink all you can eat, 0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:07.799 and then you go dance. And that would be Friday night. 0:52:07.960 --> 0:52:09.960 It was like Friday night. It was Friday Night was 0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:14.200 a band and then Saturday was hip hop exactly. So yeah, 0:52:14.280 --> 0:52:17.359 you know because I went to spots in New York. 0:52:17.400 --> 0:52:19.320 I lived in New York. I was at the grandest 0:52:19.360 --> 0:52:23.480 spots right there, and you know, like we we eat, 0:52:23.640 --> 0:52:26.880 we would drink, and you know, it was always like 0:52:27.200 --> 0:52:29.560 Saturday night. Friday night was the people who would newly 0:52:29.600 --> 0:52:36.800 emigrated to New York because English some kind of Spanish 0:52:36.840 --> 0:52:39.680 to get him in, right, yeah, a little bit. Yeah, 0:52:39.719 --> 0:52:42.360 that whole boy to be like, hey listen, right, but 0:52:42.480 --> 0:52:49.200 Saturday night, somebody w always get shot. But when we 0:52:49.280 --> 0:52:52.759 go both right, that's right now, that what you got 0:52:52.800 --> 0:53:00.000 to You got that so because you got a Latin movie, right, 0:53:00.440 --> 0:53:03.200 you never did a whole Latin movie. You had that 0:53:03.239 --> 0:53:05.880 the list called legal tender. Oh yeah, it's like they't 0:53:05.880 --> 0:53:09.040 got it on. I Potato Potato called it on in 0:53:09.120 --> 0:53:10.840 this first movie and then they took him off and 0:53:10.840 --> 0:53:13.799 put him in Faster Furious. That's my brother brother from 0:53:14.080 --> 0:53:22.840 from I think that's no. They go the Loisa me 0:53:22.880 --> 0:53:25.920 and you will be the the most light skinning they died. Yeah, exactly, 0:53:25.960 --> 0:53:28.440 like yeah, you like I shot that down there. I 0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:30.400 produced it now there. I shot that down there and 0:53:30.440 --> 0:53:31.880 we were just you know, it was it was an 0:53:32.200 --> 0:53:33.480 on that team of movie. I was then you had 0:53:33.520 --> 0:53:35.400 the other dude and then the young kid with the 0:53:35.440 --> 0:53:48.680 afro brick basketball. Yeah, because I know you gotta go 0:53:48.880 --> 0:53:51.600 so um, But how do you actually see talent? Like 0:53:51.640 --> 0:53:55.520 when people say like what what what is it? Is? 0:53:55.520 --> 0:53:58.080 It is it? When you It's just my vibe. It's 0:53:58.120 --> 0:54:00.440 like when I vibe of somebody, I've been like okay, 0:54:00.920 --> 0:54:02.719 I vibe with him and say, okay, if I can 0:54:02.719 --> 0:54:06.279 get that original what's really special about them? In the 0:54:06.320 --> 0:54:10.239 original vibe on camera out to the world, then then 0:54:10.280 --> 0:54:12.520 the world see what I see And that's how it 0:54:12.560 --> 0:54:16.600 goes from me. I don't know. I can't say it was, 0:54:18.080 --> 0:54:21.600 but because I got a friend, right, Sunny Sunny d 0:54:22.080 --> 0:54:27.080 Sunny DBT is the funniest guy off camera. Off camera, 0:54:27.239 --> 0:54:35.560 he will roast you. But the minute action and I'm like, 0:54:35.920 --> 0:54:38.520 I mean, he's not that bad, but yeah, you made 0:54:38.560 --> 0:54:43.600 him like a nite he that so sorry, But it's 0:54:43.640 --> 0:54:49.319 not the same. It's not the same. How do you 0:54:49.640 --> 0:54:51.320 like if you was to see that from the actor, 0:54:51.440 --> 0:54:53.920 you just say, damn, you know, I see you off 0:54:54.040 --> 0:54:56.879 camera off camera you're fucking excellent. But once I say, 0:54:56.920 --> 0:54:59.520 I spend time off camera pulling it out of people 0:54:59.520 --> 0:55:02.040 because I've had people like that too. They really like 0:55:02.160 --> 0:55:05.680 they got that, but they don't. They they're nervous. You know, 0:55:05.719 --> 0:55:07.839 it's like get out of yourself. You know. What helps 0:55:07.960 --> 0:55:10.400 them get out of that? What would help if you 0:55:10.520 --> 0:55:13.440 was to do that? Is it liveries? Like it depends 0:55:13.440 --> 0:55:16.040 on the person. It depends on the person, Like are 0:55:16.080 --> 0:55:18.040 you already hiring them or sending them to like a 0:55:18.120 --> 0:55:20.480 coaching class where they're like a little bit of buff, 0:55:20.600 --> 0:55:23.279 a little bit of buff and you know, um, you 0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:25.720 know I called them and and you know, and and 0:55:25.760 --> 0:55:27.759 I have other people work with them too, you know 0:55:27.760 --> 0:55:30.320 what I mean? Well, John Man we robbed you for 0:55:30.400 --> 0:55:34.040 all your knowledge. Thank you. So you know we are schools, 0:55:34.280 --> 0:55:37.000 we are blasted, we are honest. I want to tell 0:55:37.040 --> 0:55:40.240 you you're you're you're You're one of the greatest artists 0:55:40.280 --> 0:55:44.320 of all time. And that's included everything at all art period. 0:55:44.480 --> 0:55:46.200 You were one of the greatest artists of all time. 0:55:46.280 --> 0:55:50.520 I was very honest, it's my boy. Trevor told me, 0:55:50.560 --> 0:55:52.239 you're John to do it. I was like, for real, 0:55:52.719 --> 0:55:54.960 like I was so, I was so scared. I went, 0:55:55.040 --> 0:55:57.560 I was. I watched every interview you ever did a 0:55:57.680 --> 0:56:00.400 google every I knew, I knew you personally. I just 0:56:00.440 --> 0:56:04.440 wanted I wanted to appreciate your art and we did it, 0:56:04.560 --> 0:56:07.520 and um man, I just can't tell you how much 0:56:07.560 --> 0:56:09.640 I appreciate you. I want you to continue to do 0:56:09.680 --> 0:56:13.640 your tell and continue to do your thing because we 0:56:13.719 --> 0:56:16.680 are proud of what you're doing in cinema and we 0:56:16.719 --> 0:56:19.320 watch everything and we support everything, and we're gonna continue 0:56:19.360 --> 0:56:21.680 to do that. That makes a noise for motherfucker John. 0:56:26.480 --> 0:56:54.319 And I'm still finishing my drink too as well. Find 0:56:54.320 --> 0:56:56.960 all your favorite movies and shows factor with Actimity just 0:56:57.000 --> 0:56:59.200 speaking to the excellent voice for most to search apost 0:56:59.280 --> 0:57:02.600 live TV on demand, even Netflix and Prime Video. Now. 0:57:02.640 --> 0:57:06.680 That's simple, easy, awesome. Switch to Excenity today and get 0:57:06.680 --> 0:57:09.239 a great offer. 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