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Speaker 1: a guy that I feel like cinema should be handed
Speaker 1: to him like period. Like when it comes to cinema,
Speaker 1: he has to be the executive producer of the word
Speaker 1: of the word. Like when you look up cinema, he
Speaker 1: gotta be his face, gotta be right there. He's made
Speaker 1: legendary movies. He's got to work with the legends of
Speaker 1: the legends. He made the legends put him in the
Speaker 1: first movie. But especially hip hop. When it comes to
Speaker 1: hip hop, he was I feel like he invented this.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna take the rappers and I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: them movie stars. I feel like he gives some jobs.
Speaker 1: Right now, we got the legendary John Singleton and the mother.
Speaker 1: Now where did you get the love for developer? Been
Speaker 1: sent him a period? How did how did that even
Speaker 1: come to you? I grew up next to a drive
Speaker 1: in theater and I used to look out my window
Speaker 1: and I s to see like Kung Fu movies and
Speaker 1: horror movies and Michael Myers and stuff and Last Protection movies.
Speaker 1: And I saw Pam Gris titties and I was like,
Speaker 1: are you saying Pam's great titties is what made you focus.
Speaker 1: I gotta get that's what made me do that. That's
Speaker 1: what happened. It's true story. I'm not making it up.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows baby Boy was supposed to be a role
Speaker 1: for tupac Y. How how difficult was that saying that,
Speaker 1: you know what, I wrote this originally for my friend
Speaker 1: because you guys was friends and he's not here. How
Speaker 1: difficult was that to pick that actor? That Tyre's actor.
Speaker 1: I put it up on the show for years after
Speaker 1: that because the last thing, the last conversation I had
Speaker 1: with Pop was at the crushaw Mall. He was doing
Speaker 1: this video to Live and Die in l A and
Speaker 1: I was like, I got the movie that's gonna get
Speaker 1: you on Oscar, you know, And that was it. That
Speaker 1: was And then you know, a couple of weeks later,
Speaker 1: he wasn't with us anymore, So I didn't. I wasn't
Speaker 1: had a planning on doing the movie at all at all.
Speaker 1: And it's just, uh, I know Tyres since he was
Speaker 1: sixteen years old, and I dished this movie Shaft. He
Speaker 1: was supposed to Tyres was supposed to be in the movie,
Speaker 1: but he was too busy being an MTV v J.
Speaker 1: And then I said Okay, I got this movie. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pull off the shop and you know, you know,
Speaker 1: just like people have stuff and files and stuff, I
Speaker 1: got movies and crates and stuff that I've written, and
Speaker 1: I said, okay, maybe this is the time to do
Speaker 1: this movie. But by the way, Shaft, like when people
Speaker 1: do remix, it's very hard because and I can't believe
Speaker 1: how you pulled off Shaft like that. Yeah, but it was.
Speaker 1: It was good. It was good to be in New York.
Speaker 1: It was a crazy time to be I wasn't. We
Speaker 1: was in the high school. We was. We was hard.
Speaker 1: It was all over the whole city. Um, it was.
Speaker 1: It was you know, you remember it was that was
Speaker 1: when I was making that movie. We were the only
Speaker 1: movie that was shooting at the time. It was like
Speaker 1: in the daytime and the night I was shooting in
Speaker 1: the night and then sometimes the night I was up
Speaker 1: in Cheetah and sent your flying like the first thing.
Speaker 1: That was the first thing I said to you. What
Speaker 1: I like, I was like, oh my god. But I
Speaker 1: was like I was a wild person then I was.
Speaker 1: I'm different now, more conservative, servative. When movies, it's movies
Speaker 1: with like you have to go through something like you
Speaker 1: know how sometimes comedians will come out with things every
Speaker 1: five years because it's like they actually got to go
Speaker 1: through experiences. But for me, it's for me, making films
Speaker 1: is kind of an emotional experience. Um. You know, I
Speaker 1: put my all into it. I put my heart and
Speaker 1: soul um you know. Um, and it's just like it
Speaker 1: takes something out of you, but it gives something back.
Speaker 1: And every time I do a movie, it's an adventure.
Speaker 1: So um you know. Um, lately I've been just like
Speaker 1: concentrate on television instead of movies because people are watching
Speaker 1: more TV than our films and there's a lot more
Speaker 1: to do. Um you know, Like you can make it
Speaker 1: make a movie every two or three years, but the
Speaker 1: film a TV show, it's like doing a movie every week.
Speaker 1: You get a chance to shoot, pull a new talent,
Speaker 1: put people in and see how they work, and then
Speaker 1: maybe if they work on the TV show, then you
Speaker 1: take them off to a movie. So that's my that's
Speaker 1: my body. You feel the same way about writing and directing, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I have to whatever I do, I have
Speaker 1: to write. I have to write because I have to
Speaker 1: put my on stink on it. That what made you
Speaker 1: say to ice Cube. You said, because because I remember
Speaker 1: you saying that you knew. Thank you. So you said
Speaker 1: to ice Cube and just so you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: a plastic on it, come on, you help him out.
Speaker 1: Come on your closest thing. Come on, okay, let me
Speaker 1: sure it open dearly. I don't even want to do it.
Speaker 1: But you said to ice Cube that his first rhymes
Speaker 1: were like movie like so and then he went later
Speaker 1: on and created Friday. Did you ever think you should
Speaker 1: have been a part of Friday as well? Yeah? I did.
Speaker 1: Let his true story Cube. When we were doing Boys
Speaker 1: in the Herd, he started like looking at how movies
Speaker 1: are made, watching the set, so that he did a
Speaker 1: video called Dead Homies. You've seen that video. It's really cinematic.
Speaker 1: He started like, you know, slow wing shots and really
Speaker 1: cinematic stuff. And you know, even when Cube had other
Speaker 1: people direct the movie, the videos, he wouldn't be quasi directed.
Speaker 1: So then he was like, okay, I want to write movies.
Speaker 1: I said, well, okay, I've gotta get a laptop. He
Speaker 1: meet him and his now wife when she was time
Speaker 1: when going on laptop and he's a screenwriting stuff. So
Speaker 1: he started he wrote, he wrote from that, the next
Speaker 1: year and a half he wrote like three screenplays. He
Speaker 1: wrote different titles and screenplays and everyone, and I was
Speaker 1: like this one. And then he stopped showing me his screenplays.
Speaker 1: So then he wrote because I kept shipping on him
Speaker 1: a little bit because I was like, because it's my brother, right,
Speaker 1: you could do better than this, right. And then but
Speaker 1: he was also selling them too. You know, it didn't
Speaker 1: matter if I thought there was happy. He sold some
Speaker 1: stuff to Universal. He was selling like that I got produced.
Speaker 1: He was just selling screenplays. And then so that he
Speaker 1: did he we do we do higher learning together. And
Speaker 1: then he's like I'm doing this other movie and said
Speaker 1: and he's like I'm um, and it's like okay. But
Speaker 1: but he started Friday out independently on Money Up on Friday,
Speaker 1: and the new line was like we want to help you.
Speaker 1: And I was like if people have told me that,
Speaker 1: I would like everything in it, because it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, when he finally got it done and showed
Speaker 1: it to me, I was like, that's gonna it's gonna
Speaker 1: be huge, and it was you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: are we talking about Friday? Friday? Friday? Okay, so Friday,
Speaker 1: you know, he did that all on his own, man,
Speaker 1: you know, looking at now man, Yeah, yes, so so
Speaker 1: now I'm glad you brought up higher learning, right because
Speaker 1: higher learning. I feel like it was a socially conscious movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't really have socially conscious movies anymore. No, we
Speaker 1: don't matter. Are we missing that? We're missing a lot
Speaker 1: of things we were missing. It's a little John. That's
Speaker 1: how we're doing in drink chants, That's how we're doing.
Speaker 1: So are we missing social conscious movies? I think we're
Speaker 1: missing movies that about something. I think we need that
Speaker 1: now more than ever because I'm kind of brought proud
Speaker 1: of jay Z for the writer's alan Doctor Brout. That
Speaker 1: was nice. That was that was it was beautiful. That
Speaker 1: was beautiful for him to tell that story. And now
Speaker 1: him he's doing a trade Von Martin story. I feel
Speaker 1: like doing a movie and the doctor trade mar and
Speaker 1: I think that's really smart. Um and and um something
Speaker 1: that needs to be done. Yeah, because we need that,
Speaker 1: like for our community. Because um, I just feel like
Speaker 1: it's balanced. I feel like levels fell backwards. This level,
Speaker 1: we've gotta balance it. And I feel like that's the
Speaker 1: perfect way. It's just it's because there's so many of
Speaker 1: us more in our community, a walk more than they read. Yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. I mean, I mean it's what I do.
Speaker 1: I like to do films that are life, make people think,
Speaker 1: but also entertained, so then they have to watch it
Speaker 1: several times and be like, you know, did I really
Speaker 1: see that in there? Hold on that another time? So
Speaker 1: you know, even when I make a film that that
Speaker 1: it's really really has heavy issues in it. It Uh,
Speaker 1: it's entertaining. You know what I'm saying. You don't really notice,
Speaker 1: you know, now poetic This role ice Cube role was
Speaker 1: originally to excuse me, Tupac's role was originally ice Cubes. Yeah, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: and Cube said he wanted to do do was okay, And
Speaker 1: now why why at the time we see Tupac and Juice.
Speaker 1: We see Tupac everywhere else. But what makes you say
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make Tupac riding the mall band with Jackson
Speaker 1: he killed? Because um, I mean, you know he was.
Speaker 1: It's crazy because I didn't even give it a second
Speaker 1: thought because you know, I realized Pocket just and it
Speaker 1: hadn't even come out yet. Oh yeah, but I heard
Speaker 1: you say you saw the movie in advance. I saw
Speaker 1: the movie were in advance. I said, okay, let's let's dude.
Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't I wasn't thinking about him to
Speaker 1: be in poor jestice. I was still thinking about cute
Speaker 1: and I was like, we gotta do something together. So
Speaker 1: we chopped it up and just like you know, and
Speaker 1: he just he just got back because he had got
Speaker 1: into l A and I was like, we gotta do
Speaker 1: something together. So when Cube said what he said, I said, okay.
Speaker 1: I called up him and I said, you know you
Speaker 1: want to do it? He said, yeah, yeah, I'll do it.
Speaker 1: You know, now, boys in the Hood, Boys and Hook
Speaker 1: comes out first, right, the minister society comes out. Yes.
Speaker 1: I gotta ask a petty question, what's the time. What's
Speaker 1: that time between them? Just two years? Did you ever
Speaker 1: think like they could have it? I was not hug Brothers. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we never heard your side of the story because I
Speaker 1: kind of felt like, oh ship, they just madetion with
Speaker 1: that movie too. Well, No, they just made they made
Speaker 1: an interesting film that was more violent than my movie.
Speaker 1: My movie was my movie was? I say, it was
Speaker 1: more kind of embedded in what um, what my personal
Speaker 1: experience was in the studio that made Mini Society said
Speaker 1: that we gotta have some pans too. There was you know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of movies, but in retrospect, when Society
Speaker 1: is the best of all of those movies that came
Speaker 1: after Boys, you know, because there's a lot of movies
Speaker 1: that they tried to copy. It was like, you know, yea,
Speaker 1: but but you know, in fact, my favorite character and
Speaker 1: the Society's old dog, because he was he was like
Speaker 1: most asociated, right, you know, to Pap was supposed to
Speaker 1: play this character, this other character, that another dude that
Speaker 1: was in Boys Fante Sweet play he was a more
Speaker 1: conscious brother. Oh that's right. I was a teacher that right,
Speaker 1: and then he had court Beef and the Hughes brothers
Speaker 1: and to So so what is what? What? What? What?
Speaker 1: What is? John Singleton? What are you sitting back and
Speaker 1: saying that, you know, happy that you didn't produce I
Speaker 1: know you're doing a lot of TV what I was,
Speaker 1: But what do you enjoy like when you yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean like in terms of like just life and stuff, movies, TV.
Speaker 1: I know you're doing too much TV to watch TV.
Speaker 1: I'm too much TV to watch TV. I don't even
Speaker 1: get a chance to really watch my TV because I'm
Speaker 1: making TV right now. I mean, like, you know, I
Speaker 1: like movies and stuff and everything, but the movies, the
Speaker 1: movies now are not you know, I don't feel that
Speaker 1: they're they don't push hard enough in terms of the
Speaker 1: culture as much as possible, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like in terms of mainstream movies,
Speaker 1: you know, um, and that needs to be done, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, because like because like like Boys
Speaker 1: in the Hood was so much of an important message.
Speaker 1: It's just like, yo, you know, you can live the
Speaker 1: street life, but there's actually consequence. Exactly, there's actually and
Speaker 1: that's what hip hop sometimes fails to tell. We only
Speaker 1: always yeah, I don't know you're gonna do nine years,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Not at the other end
Speaker 1: of it, Yeah, exactly, No, I'm out about the reality
Speaker 1: of it, you know what I'm saying. What was that
Speaker 1: like your goal? Because I know no, oh wow, My
Speaker 1: goal was just basically a telling story. I was just like,
Speaker 1: you know, just like trying to get something off my chest,
Speaker 1: that an experience that I lived, that that I lived through, um,
Speaker 1: and that a lot of my family and friends had
Speaker 1: had left through. So that was always about what if
Speaker 1: ice Cube said no to play dough Boy would want
Speaker 1: to go there? Think of nobody, where will we be
Speaker 1: now he didn't play the part man, it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I think he was robbed up Oscar nomination.
Speaker 1: I think he should because it's one of those timeless
Speaker 1: performances that that just exists. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be honest with you when I look
Speaker 1: at like, if I want to describe the West Coast,
Speaker 1: how I first visualized the West Coast, I wouldn't start
Speaker 1: at Poison. Yeah, I would start there and be like
Speaker 1: you work around there. I actually go there first and
Speaker 1: then call us. I cursed it when I was a
Speaker 1: school with film East Coast, so I don't no, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't real. It was it was derivative. It wasn't
Speaker 1: because it wasn't done by by by black people. It
Speaker 1: was like it was like, you know, it was like
Speaker 1: there was nothing about that that thing that was really true,
Speaker 1: truly whatever. You know, like people were more caricatures and
Speaker 1: caricatures they weren't real, you know. And then so you know,
Speaker 1: so now I gotta get to the million dollar question.
Speaker 1: Listen why is it John Singleton directing this Tupac, Why
Speaker 1: I feel like you gotta get another shot. I feel
Speaker 1: like you gott get another shot because we want the
Speaker 1: real answer, and I'm gonna take one with you. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna busy myself on this. And then because you know,
Speaker 1: you're gonna bring up fashions and you know, and everything
Speaker 1: and stuff, because because it's documented that you guys are friends,
Speaker 1: it was like nobody can't dispute that. Well, just say
Speaker 1: that the people that that got the rights to do
Speaker 1: the movie, they had different ideas on how to do
Speaker 1: the movie than I did. And that's part of it
Speaker 1: at some point, right, Yeah, it was yeah in the beginning,
Speaker 1: right exactly. Well no, not as it came in through
Speaker 1: and everything. But you know, let them, let them make
Speaker 1: that move and let's see how it does and let's
Speaker 1: see what's because you're personally involved, So does that ever
Speaker 1: like like mess up in your creative process? Like because
Speaker 1: I'm personally of all, that means I'm more focused and
Speaker 1: born like you know, I'm more like get it, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like that means I'm I'm you know,
Speaker 1: as I'm saying better, you know, what I'm saying, I'm
Speaker 1: down on the ground. I'm ready to shoot, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like that makes it more powerful that
Speaker 1: I'm more personally involved. And you know if Bennie Boom
Speaker 1: haven't even met too, funk, I don't want to go.
Speaker 1: Beny is my friends. By's my friends too. But I'm
Speaker 1: just thinking, I'm just I don't care. You got that, yes, boy?
Speaker 1: Every time I say something bad about with Betty Cosby
Speaker 1: and said, you know, so, it's like, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't even want to touch you right now. You know,
Speaker 1: let the movie come out. Y'all make your own judgment
Speaker 1: what you want to say about the movie. But if
Speaker 1: you had your choice, how would you have done it?
Speaker 1: Because I think I don't know if you've seen like
Speaker 1: the Outlaw guys, he had just said something, Yeah, he
Speaker 1: accused you of saying that he wanted he wanted to
Speaker 1: put a rape scene of Tupac in. Then well, there's
Speaker 1: a whole lot of things that that that they were
Speaker 1: not having the movie, that that actually happened, that they
Speaker 1: won't want to We're not saying Tupac got raped. There's
Speaker 1: a whole lot of things that happened. There's a whole
Speaker 1: lot of stuff. That's the stuff that why why who
Speaker 1: actually was involved in his death? Why didn't die? And
Speaker 1: I'm saying, well, the lead up to his death, know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, so I don't know what they
Speaker 1: did with the movie. So you know, it's like I
Speaker 1: can't even speak on it because I don't know what
Speaker 1: that did with the movie. And I won't watch the movie,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? But if you had your choice,
Speaker 1: how would you did the movie? If you'd have had
Speaker 1: your choice, how would you did the movie? How would
Speaker 1: I did the movie? Like, I'm not saying that over podcast.
Speaker 1: Ye I'm gonna make you know, I make them right movie,
Speaker 1: I'm you know, not to understand. And I don't want
Speaker 1: to speak on this over and over there. I come from,
Speaker 1: I come from, I come from you know. Um Tipac
Speaker 1: was born nineteen seventy one. I was one n seventy eight.
Speaker 1: We are revolutionary babies. It's a difference between being a
Speaker 1: revolutionary baby and being someone who's just hip hop, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. We were built, you know, for
Speaker 1: the betterment of our people. We were built for to
Speaker 1: bring everybody up, you know what I'm saying. And a
Speaker 1: whole lot of stuff that happened, and and and in
Speaker 1: terms of black black liberation was faltered because black people
Speaker 1: were not in solidarity with each other, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So you know that's what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be. I don't want to be that
Speaker 1: person that keeps on having dissension or whatever. That they've
Speaker 1: made the movie. They stole the rights from his mother,
Speaker 1: so they made the movie they want to make. And
Speaker 1: hopefully one day I will get a chance to tell
Speaker 1: that story. But otherwise I got all this other ship
Speaker 1: that I'm trying to do that is is in line
Speaker 1: with what my principles are as a person and as
Speaker 1: a black man, and that I'm going to do. So
Speaker 1: that's that's all I want to speak. To make some
Speaker 1: noise for that. Damn, let's make some noise for that.
Speaker 1: Someone still trying to make a part movie in the future. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, I think you should do a commentary or
Speaker 1: at least at least. No. No, this has to be.
Speaker 1: It has to be a movie. It's it's too it's
Speaker 1: too it's too it's too important not to just make
Speaker 1: a movie. I mean, like, you know, there's so many
Speaker 1: different things around life, who he was as a person,
Speaker 1: you know, and why people can be inspired by it, right,
Speaker 1: you know, now it's such it's such a great story. So,
Speaker 1: um when I hear, like, you know, when people have
Speaker 1: differences with it, I always listen because, um, I never
Speaker 1: got to meet Tupac A. Yeah, I never got to
Speaker 1: meet Tupac. Actually, uh he actually hung out in my
Speaker 1: hood and I was in jail, So I actually never
Speaker 1: got to meet Tupac. So I'm always this is actually
Speaker 1: me as a fan. They just asking. But now you
Speaker 1: also got to work with somebody who's also legendary and
Speaker 1: who also I think is innocent. Um O J. Simpson,
Speaker 1: you got to work with Old J. I don't have
Speaker 1: to work with him. I met him before. I met
Speaker 1: him before, but I did. I did a episode of
Speaker 1: the show based on the people first Old J. Okay, Now,
Speaker 1: how was that? Like? It was good, it was interesting,
Speaker 1: it was fun, it was like, you know, it was
Speaker 1: good because, um, he changed l A after that, but
Speaker 1: he changed he changed culture. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean what I mean is like we
Speaker 1: just looked at l A like from the couture, like
Speaker 1: at this coast point of view, we were just like
Speaker 1: old because yeah, here that's weird. I mean, it was
Speaker 1: just weird. It was just I mean because like we
Speaker 1: never knew we thought only our cops was racist. We
Speaker 1: never knew that outside of our ship, this as other
Speaker 1: people that's racist. You know what I'm saying. Like we
Speaker 1: didn't travel. But after Old J, it was like clear,
Speaker 1: it was just like, holy mole, guacamole, this is what's
Speaker 1: going down. But I never thought Old J did it.
Speaker 1: And I met Old J as well. When we met him,
Speaker 1: it was right, you know, I met him twice, you know,
Speaker 1: can do kid? Yeah, you know our neighbor. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was at that time. Yeah, and he was walking out
Speaker 1: the best. But he said, my leg is killing me.
Speaker 1: And I thought that was the funniest thing in the world.
Speaker 1: And he said that I don't get he was limping,
Speaker 1: something was wrong with his leg. And he goes, my
Speaker 1: leg is killing me. Just sat killing Yeah, bad lads,
Speaker 1: bad leg. But I just you know, you know what
Speaker 1: it is. I don't go around like real killers, right,
Speaker 1: and like this. It's always a certain instinct about exactly,
Speaker 1: and he didn't have it exactly. He did not have it.
Speaker 1: But I got to say the story about when we
Speaker 1: met him at the concert. What he said, you gotta
Speaker 1: tell the story, please. I feel like I feel like
Speaker 1: you don't co sign like that you're talking about it.
Speaker 1: So what concert? It was something? It was a radio station,
Speaker 1: you know they do like summer jams and the concert
Speaker 1: Fort Myers. So my record Labe would tell me, don't
Speaker 1: stand next to old Jacks had posting it. He's it's
Speaker 1: the oddest thing in the world. It's me host. Honestly,
Speaker 1: this is crazy. So we're all backstage done with him
Speaker 1: and his boys and his crew at that time. His
Speaker 1: boys called murder Uni murder. Oh Jay comes back, and
Speaker 1: then everybody's like, let's take a picture together. And there's
Speaker 1: this infamous picture when when he snapping the shot, one
Speaker 1: of his boys says, you Richard. He said, yeah, it
Speaker 1: was all it was. So you clearly remember that I'm
Speaker 1: making this. I thought it was me who said it's
Speaker 1: I'm looking at him. Then this thing like oh hell yeah.
Speaker 1: But I'm honestly I never thought yeah yeah. And this
Speaker 1: is before Instagram. But we do gotta picture that the figure.
Speaker 1: We don't have a picture of that moment, but we
Speaker 1: gotta picture of that night. No, you have a picture
Speaker 1: of when he said that, right, yeah, alright, but that
Speaker 1: was awesome working on that because you from you from
Speaker 1: that time, you live through that exactly. So is it
Speaker 1: better for you to be passionate about the project. It's
Speaker 1: much better for me to be like passionate about it
Speaker 1: taking personal like you know, just feel it in my heart,
Speaker 1: you know, And that's you know, that's what it's about.
Speaker 1: Have you ever done something for the money? It was
Speaker 1: just like this is just for the money, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't work out, like it doesn't work out
Speaker 1: too well. Explain that to you. It's like it's just
Speaker 1: you have to whenever you do something you know, artistic,
Speaker 1: whether or not, even if you're getting paid for it,
Speaker 1: it's better to do it for the passion of it,
Speaker 1: for the heart of it. And she really feel it that,
Speaker 1: you know. It's just you know, in your blood, like
Speaker 1: you would do anything, you know, you kill somebody if
Speaker 1: they funk with your ship, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's that's how I am about certain things,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean when I'm doing or something,
Speaker 1: you know, and not everybody's about that. People are just
Speaker 1: you know, they're just going about the jobs and you know,
Speaker 1: whatever it is for me, I'm like, I'm like Laser,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I gotta get it, you know, I feel
Speaker 1: like I feel like I just I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I know you for years, I know you
Speaker 1: your real drinking years, right, But I feel like I
Speaker 1: feel like that's what drives you. It's passionate first, and
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Speaker 1: you're watching something, you feel it. You feel it passion.
Speaker 1: That's why I can get people to do things that
Speaker 1: they would they would do with me, but they wouldn't
Speaker 1: do what other people. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, like scenes and baby boy everything, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like it's great, right, you already know
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Speaker 1: Then now, now, what was the moment in life that
Speaker 1: you passed on um but you regret it? Like something
Speaker 1: wasn't there passed him? Didn't you pass on the wire? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I passed. I just didn't think like doing the whole thing. No, No,
Speaker 1: the first season, I didn't. I didn't know it was
Speaker 1: gonna be what it was, but it was. By the
Speaker 1: time it got into this like thirst season, I was like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, because corners corners came before and corners
Speaker 1: it wasn't that great. Corners is all right, but it wasn't.
Speaker 1: But the wire, it wasn't that why it was. The
Speaker 1: wire was lit, you know what I mean? It was lit.
Speaker 1: It was so lit. It was like I really, yeah
Speaker 1: it did. So who you get the call for the wires?
Speaker 1: HPO or the agent called me. I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna do that. I was like, is that the
Speaker 1: only thing you ever passed on? You regret it? Or
Speaker 1: the only thing I can remember right now? You know?
Speaker 1: You know, now, is there anything that like, uh, you
Speaker 1: have set out to do? You did it and then
Speaker 1: you was disappointed in the outcome? No, not at all.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, you know, I think of my work
Speaker 1: that thousand right now, you know, so you know, I'm
Speaker 1: still still hitting it really hard, you know, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do you know, some my TV and up tell
Speaker 1: and do some of my movies. But everything I do
Speaker 1: is gonna be real passionate and hitting it really really hard.
Speaker 1: Now what do you like better? Though? I know you're
Speaker 1: you're doing the same thing TV, TV or the same
Speaker 1: thing and it's the same thing. It's the same thing
Speaker 1: to me. It's the same thing to me. You watch
Speaker 1: anything that I produced on TV, it looks, you know,
Speaker 1: like one of my any less or more work. No, no, now,
Speaker 1: we got Rebel on BT correctly, and you gotta permit
Speaker 1: for Rebel tonight. Yeah, an that episode today? Okay? And
Speaker 1: what is this act? So people couldn't oh this is private?
Speaker 1: What what the Rebel premiere tonight? Oh no, no, in
Speaker 1: the night? This it's not in the night. But you
Speaker 1: know you said you do it every week before the joints,
Speaker 1: so we would like to go, oh yeah, we just
Speaker 1: have a little thing in sin Lounge in the in
Speaker 1: the valley in San Fernando Valley. It's like bab um
Speaker 1: So on the Lancashire. You know, it's a little spot.
Speaker 1: So what's the next thing for black media? Like, okay,
Speaker 1: Birth of the Nation came out, It didn't work right,
Speaker 1: because it felt like it was. It worked. It just
Speaker 1: got squashed, it got it got squashed. So what's the
Speaker 1: movie got squashed because they didn't want that movie to
Speaker 1: come out? You know, you know with the Black Lives
Speaker 1: Matter stuff and all stuff, they that movie. They squashed
Speaker 1: that movie. You know what I mean. That's the real time.
Speaker 1: It's very true. That's talk that squash the movie. And
Speaker 1: and black people are kind of like, you know, they
Speaker 1: have a completit of squashing that movie. But as a
Speaker 1: movie director, was the movie? Uh? Good? Period? The movie
Speaker 1: was good. It was good movie. It was good. It's
Speaker 1: a good movies good. Okay, you see the movies. I
Speaker 1: didn't know you see the movie. I've been running around.
Speaker 1: I've been running around. I ain't see my old movie.
Speaker 1: I can do my old movie right now. But listen, man, um,
Speaker 1: we need more directors like you, right. We need more
Speaker 1: people who are passionate and they work. So so if
Speaker 1: a person is listening to this podcast and they that's
Speaker 1: their goals, that's there there there, that's the that's what
Speaker 1: they want to achieve, how do you get started? Because
Speaker 1: now these kids can just buy the equipment. Like when
Speaker 1: you started, that was you had to be almost rich
Speaker 1: to get cameras. Yeah, but you have to you have
Speaker 1: to look at to do it really really well, you
Speaker 1: have to study it. You have to study what came
Speaker 1: before and in the style and tone, um you know,
Speaker 1: and and theme and you have to like be round
Speaker 1: read about how story story you know people, you know,
Speaker 1: how stories to propagate universally, you know what I mean, um,
Speaker 1: in different languages and stuff, right, And that's what you know.
Speaker 1: That's what made me do what I create and create
Speaker 1: and then and then you create your style when you
Speaker 1: went to film school though, Yeah, but before film school
Speaker 1: I was doing all that. And even after film school,
Speaker 1: I kept learning. I'm learning all the time, you know.
Speaker 1: So if a younger record director is sitting out there
Speaker 1: and they feel like they're creative, they feel like they
Speaker 1: can write, what's the first step you suggest for the
Speaker 1: UH to watch all movies and watch movies from around
Speaker 1: the world, hard, hard far back. You think they should
Speaker 1: watch movies to the beginning of cinema, to the beginning
Speaker 1: of the moving picture. You have to you have to
Speaker 1: study it. Be a student of the game. Student of
Speaker 1: the game. Now now you you rolled off all colors?
Speaker 1: Is American meat really authentic. That was a great I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that because I'm not good. How about
Speaker 1: blood and blood out? That was the color? Were doing
Speaker 1: another shot. I don't let me doing those. Come on,
Speaker 1: you gotta do. You're gonna to a party. You're on
Speaker 1: your way to you so rich man were here, you
Speaker 1: got yacht to all type of things, and you know
Speaker 1: what your humble god, but almost I'm a brag for
Speaker 1: brag for you backdam I'm brack for you man. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. We're gonna listen. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you know what our show was about. Giving all
Speaker 1: legends flowers when they can smell them, and treats when
Speaker 1: they get in hell them because our our society so
Speaker 1: much praise as a person after they die, and I
Speaker 1: feel like that is so backwards. Yeah, I should be
Speaker 1: able to tell you how much I appreciate you right
Speaker 1: here and face to face man and man, as opposed
Speaker 1: to waiting for you to pass away and then be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a great guy, me and him party they get
Speaker 1: back in the day. I should say that now, like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like, and I actually learned
Speaker 1: that through Dave Chappelle. You know when the way it
Speaker 1: was print and it was like he started praising Prince
Speaker 1: while Prince was alive. And it's just like, that's what
Speaker 1: we got to continue to do. And that's not just
Speaker 1: as a culture, that's as as people, like as human
Speaker 1: human beings. As human beings, we gotta start praising our people.
Speaker 1: Why are they're here? So with that being said, how
Speaker 1: wasn't working with Janet Jackson penny? You know, come on,
Speaker 1: it's beautiful. It was jerked off the penny a lot.
Speaker 1: Throw that out there. It was good. I don't know
Speaker 1: that's serious. The whole age thing. No, that was not serious.
Speaker 1: That was a joke that we was having on the set.
Speaker 1: Because the real talk is Tupac was attracted de Jana.
Speaker 1: I was attracted de Jana. The world was. We're in
Speaker 1: the set, we're both trying to like, you know, floodwater
Speaker 1: and stuff, and I'm like, you know what, I don't know,
Speaker 1: if you know, I should have you kissing on my
Speaker 1: actress because you know, you've been fucking around all this ship.
Speaker 1: You know, Pop was just coming to his own then, right,
Speaker 1: And I was like, man, that was like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna have to do an as test
Speaker 1: for y'all do this left scene. It was a joke,
Speaker 1: but he said, no, no, you know it's me saw
Speaker 1: not my nigger on the side right before, just like
Speaker 1: talking sh and then we're like, oh, ship, we should
Speaker 1: we should we should use this, we should put this
Speaker 1: out there. So that's what we did as a publicity thing.
Speaker 1: As a publicity thing, we just did that shot. But
Speaker 1: it's just like us talking about Twitter got mad at
Speaker 1: Jackson about it, but it was just us talking on
Speaker 1: the ship, on the set and everything this and you know,
Speaker 1: it was an inside Joe. That's when it works. Now,
Speaker 1: not only did you get to work with Janet Jackson,
Speaker 1: you got to work with the big man, Mike Jackson.
Speaker 1: Did he have a glove one when you met him. No,
Speaker 1: he didn't have a guy. He's where he wore the
Speaker 1: old like a lot and he did. He did. It's
Speaker 1: a crazy because in his in his problem was you
Speaker 1: see it Michael on camera and stuff. He didn't talk
Speaker 1: the way that he talks, you know, and you say
Speaker 1: that like Mike was a nigger, like mich was like
Speaker 1: different difference every tune and everything that. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that just that was a petition that
Speaker 1: he put on for the cameras. He didn't he wouldn't
Speaker 1: talk about it. He was just a brother. He was
Speaker 1: a different every different to me and everything. It's just like,
Speaker 1: you know, he's just like hey, you know. And he
Speaker 1: was really despite what he you know, he ended up
Speaker 1: doing to his face and his skin got lighter and everything.
Speaker 1: He was a real brother man. It was really about
Speaker 1: black people because I heard that video. He actually that
Speaker 1: was after Magic actually announced and he wanted to do
Speaker 1: something and Mike wanted Mike wanted Magic in the video.
Speaker 1: He said, you know, caling Magic, Let's get him in
Speaker 1: the video. Remember the time, remember the time. I hate
Speaker 1: that ship in my head, right, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I couldn't have met Michael Jackson. I would have like
Speaker 1: I would have gave him. I would gave him on
Speaker 1: fire too hard games a great oh not Nature gave
Speaker 1: us the crazy Michael Jackson. But so how was it?
Speaker 1: Was he a pure genius? Like was he everything? He was?
Speaker 1: His damn their genius? I mean Dan Mar genius. I
Speaker 1: mean like you know the things that that that he
Speaker 1: did and that he uh and that he wanted to
Speaker 1: do and stuff, you know, like unprecedented in this business.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been um starstruck? Yeah? Who, I gotta
Speaker 1: hear this. I mean, I've only been star shot two
Speaker 1: times in my whole career. I need to hear both.
Speaker 1: Let's go for it. The first was meeting Steven Spielberg
Speaker 1: because it's like, you know, as a kid going up,
Speaker 1: you know, like he was, you know, the the young
Speaker 1: person that went on to make movies at an early age,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to be like that. Um, just nervous
Speaker 1: to you know, I saw him and that it was
Speaker 1: as soon as I saw him and we met, just
Speaker 1: was like it was like, um, you know it was.
Speaker 1: It was as great you know, he's like the golfather
Speaker 1: godfather filmmaking and filmmaker. The second was what your prior
Speaker 1: rich Probor. I remember was prior at the comedy store.
Speaker 1: I was. I used to hang out the comp store.
Speaker 1: As soon as you tell you char prior, I thought,
Speaker 1: the comedy store and so uh. And it's funny because
Speaker 1: Richard probably was hanging out with opportuna comedy club was
Speaker 1: Hollywood this with Alpat Richard probably saying that with Opportuno
Speaker 1: and I can't even your life is dope and I'm like,
Speaker 1: let's throw that out there. I don't even look at
Speaker 1: opportune and I'm looking at much private. But Richard used
Speaker 1: to have this do that work for him. Um it
Speaker 1: came over to me, um and and he said, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, Richard would like to say hello, J
Speaker 1: And I walked across to him and Richard was kind
Speaker 1: of frail. Here the ms was getting him. But it
Speaker 1: wasn't as bad. It wasn't wheelchair. Yeah, it wasn't built
Speaker 1: your both and he just said, uh uh, you young
Speaker 1: man that made that movie poison the hood just came
Speaker 1: out and I said, yes, sir, I am. And mind
Speaker 1: you because you're like me. You listen to every rich
Speaker 1: pe Mama had s birth curse. He said, are you
Speaker 1: the man that mad the movie? I said, yes, sir, yeah,
Speaker 1: and he goes against me a hut niger. I just
Speaker 1: cried on the shoulder I saw, I said, because because
Speaker 1: this is a man. And then after that we became friends.
Speaker 1: I used to go up to his house and he
Speaker 1: said he'd be sitting up in the bed. He had
Speaker 1: a gun right by the side of his bed. This
Speaker 1: mother had a gun right next to and every comedian
Speaker 1: Wayne's brothers, whoever it was, he pulled guns out. No, No,
Speaker 1: these people would come through. They would come through every
Speaker 1: day to pay homashed Richard. And this before he really
Speaker 1: got sick. So it's like, you know, we were just
Speaker 1: he was on his way to being sick. That's what
Speaker 1: was coming. He was sick, but he was coming to
Speaker 1: pay homages. Just to pay hommy. They were they know
Speaker 1: there was coming pan house, because you just want to
Speaker 1: be around with you probably if you want to be
Speaker 1: a comedian, you want to be around with your pride,
Speaker 1: and so um, we were just sitting chop it up
Speaker 1: and he was just you know, it was just tell me,
Speaker 1: how about other business? How about that movie? You should
Speaker 1: be a part of that movie. I can't do them all, man.
Speaker 1: I would love to. I would love to, yeah, because yeah,
Speaker 1: he was. He was ultimate storyteller. And I still take
Speaker 1: a lot from him as a storyteller in terms of
Speaker 1: the way that he with Ben. Stuff been lines and
Speaker 1: he would just you know, he was the he was
Speaker 1: the storyteller the streets. If you think about all the
Speaker 1: stuff that Joseph you listened to him, they were really
Speaker 1: sad stories, some of them. Don exactly. He was like
Speaker 1: Don going to the Pemper comedy, so people knew how
Speaker 1: to do that. So I so when I take a
Speaker 1: lot from him in terms of like when I when
Speaker 1: I tell a story, I just toestuff that maybe a
Speaker 1: little sad but funny, funny but sad, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because that's what life is. Life. It's not
Speaker 1: just one thing, you know what I mean. We go
Speaker 1: to movies and say, oh, that's just a comedy. That
Speaker 1: movie is just a serious movie. When you watch one
Speaker 1: of my movies, it's it's a reflection of life. So
Speaker 1: I mean Richard, Richard is an ultimate storyteller. To me,
Speaker 1: what we ever have uh dope error like that? Again,
Speaker 1: like the nineties cinema, would that ever be turn a
Speaker 1: different way? I think we had a different way. I
Speaker 1: think we're having a different way. I think the as
Speaker 1: own as has been more voices that are really uncut,
Speaker 1: impure and just like you know, not afraid to maybe
Speaker 1: necessary offend some people, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: you know that's what it's about. It's not you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think people push it as far as they
Speaker 1: could push it in terms of uh of any anything.
Speaker 1: You know. Now, it was Empire, like your first TV
Speaker 1: That wasn't your first TV it was. It was my
Speaker 1: first TV show directing on Yeah, what did you work
Speaker 1: on TV before prior to part? I mean I was
Speaker 1: on TV shows, but I never directed. That's the first
Speaker 1: one I worked on. But you know that came about
Speaker 1: because you know, without Empire, that without me, that would
Speaker 1: be not st get real talk Okay, because Hustle and
Speaker 1: Flow Yeah you you invested in herself. Flow paid said
Speaker 1: for the whole movie. Yeah wow, so that was Lee Daniels. No, no,
Speaker 1: I supposed me what was supposed produced some Flow Okay, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: but Lee funded from them get the whole whole thing.
Speaker 1: So what does Lee Daniels had to do with nothing?
Speaker 1: He had not He made He made Empire. Oh, Terence,
Speaker 1: you got my veterans from Horse and Flow to do
Speaker 1: a TV show. Oh that's with the relationship, you know.
Speaker 1: But we are brothers. You know that. It's beautiful to
Speaker 1: see us win and celebrate us winning, all of us
Speaker 1: as people. It's just it's about time. That of the
Speaker 1: show is about man, The show ain't about you know.
Speaker 1: You go on certain you know, internet shows and you
Speaker 1: can see negative ship we just celebrate all people. We drink,
Speaker 1: we smoke. I was about to ask you you're gonna smoke,
Speaker 1: but I feel like you've got sponsors. No, I don't
Speaker 1: know sponsors if I want to, but I want to.
Speaker 1: I don't want you to get my friend. You take it,
Speaker 1: You're take it. Take it man like. I just want
Speaker 1: to thank you man for um for being a part
Speaker 1: of this. You know, this is just just like again,
Speaker 1: we want to continue to celebrate our culture, our lifestyle,
Speaker 1: all ways of life and just continue to get back
Speaker 1: to the community and just have fun doing it. It's
Speaker 1: so much you know, dumb ship happened in the world.
Speaker 1: When people turn on the news and you get sad,
Speaker 1: I would rather they turn on this and get happy,
Speaker 1: happy yond they you know what I'm saying, You're gonna
Speaker 1: put me in the movie or somethinghere, gona like anything.
Speaker 1: I'm whatever I've been. I've been trying to get one
Speaker 1: of the first year he's my friend. I'm like, I'm talking,
Speaker 1: I gotta get in one one Like it's just it's
Speaker 1: it's that you called I MB, M, D D. You
Speaker 1: know I'm foul, Hollywood. I need the I, M, B
Speaker 1: and D and B. No I need more than my list.
Speaker 1: I'm good. I want to do East Coast movies. I
Speaker 1: want to try to play a West Coast crib movie
Speaker 1: on the West Coast. I did The hard Heart, the
Speaker 1: one don't you ever watching? It's called seven? Oh did
Speaker 1: I just say? And I played the Black Guy died
Speaker 1: as soon as you chop my head off, I fucking
Speaker 1: chop my head off. That's that's so black. That's a
Speaker 1: horrid movie. We don't lask a horror movies in real life.
Speaker 1: I think I would survive hard, Like if you put
Speaker 1: me in some scary shot, like you know what, I
Speaker 1: rably get shot at though that's a hard movie to me.
Speaker 1: I rably get shot at. And then a snake chase me, like,
Speaker 1: I gotta I got no experience in the snake chase,
Speaker 1: Like I've got got that before, no good behind the call,
Speaker 1: wait all your gold like, but now for snake chase me.
Speaker 1: That's not my element, Like I'm gonna just be like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, hold, well, I'm getting bit. I'm dying.
Speaker 1: If a snake hit me, I'm dying. I got no
Speaker 1: experience with that. We got we gotta make real reality shows.
Speaker 1: You know what they've got fair factor. You gotta mean
Speaker 1: like hood factor, like fiery shot at some hood? Second,
Speaker 1: what good if you shot at what's the internet? Don't
Speaker 1: you're able to give me someone put me on to this.
Speaker 1: It's a little suspect put it's something where they do
Speaker 1: goes chasing and it's it's a little crazy, little straight
Speaker 1: Now that we don't have those TV we got those services.
Speaker 1: Ghost is in the hood. We got we gotta wander
Speaker 1: that wakes up every day and say that's good morning.
Speaker 1: That ship is an experience, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like every every hood's got a crazy person, right like
Speaker 1: every hood has a crazy person. It's the characters that
Speaker 1: you write as they based on real characters to tell
Speaker 1: a lot of them, especially the hood one. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: there's some of the characters in the hood. You know,
Speaker 1: you're right, there's always a neighborhood characrazy person. There's always
Speaker 1: and everybody deals with they're crazy like they were like,
Speaker 1: yeah that's that she does like and stuff maybe one
Speaker 1: and then maybe on Sundays they're not crazy And I
Speaker 1: don't feel like they're crazy to day, like I don't
Speaker 1: you know, and they don't the best advice and you
Speaker 1: don't listen to Yo, John John Man. I can't thank
Speaker 1: you enough. Man, Yo, you're such a legend. Man. You
Speaker 1: did so much for this game, You did so much
Speaker 1: for the for for for hip hop, and particularly by
Speaker 1: you always incorporated the hip hop artist even you got
Speaker 1: method man and right now, and you also do the facts.
Speaker 1: We didn't even risines and snow far. You know, it's
Speaker 1: a whole lot of you keep it hip hop incorporated.
Speaker 1: We appreciate that, man, because I do. You don't do.
Speaker 1: You a legend. You know, we were one of the
Speaker 1: best artists ever and you keep us alive and there's nothing.
Speaker 1: And you also was the first person to put a
Speaker 1: West Coast guy and the East Coast guy higher learning
Speaker 1: and busted us. Yeah, I don't know if you ever
Speaker 1: I don't know if you ever beat that. That was
Speaker 1: like the first That was like the first union from
Speaker 1: the West Coast and East coast is because we was
Speaker 1: high and learning at actually act and it was in
Speaker 1: l A. Okay. See, we never knew that on the
Speaker 1: East coast us. It was just that was neutral. It
Speaker 1: was like a good way the West Coast l East coast.
Speaker 1: Think this is crazy. You didn't know that, right, now
Speaker 1: you know just it's my folks. It's just people I
Speaker 1: was knowing at the time that you know it and
Speaker 1: I also here that that that that's how passionate you are.
Speaker 1: You like you like like the Adam Samma because Adam
Speaker 1: Sama always hired the same crew. You kind of hi
Speaker 1: the same crew like to put you know, people I know,
Speaker 1: and work with people I know you know, and we
Speaker 1: just we make something happen. You know. Is it easier
Speaker 1: that way when you work with somebody you know, because
Speaker 1: you know you can scream on him and you can
Speaker 1: text later and scream on I screamed on everybody. That's
Speaker 1: what everything you know. But but what I do is
Speaker 1: I make careers. Though what I'm saying, when people work
Speaker 1: for me, they end up doing other stuff. Though that's
Speaker 1: not just a flash in the pan. Oh get the
Speaker 1: latest rapper in the movie for facelook whatever. Like No,
Speaker 1: it's like people do up doing things, you know what.
Speaker 1: I've been trying to getting something for John Singleton. He
Speaker 1: wouldn't come out of the SOX line. I'm just weird.
Speaker 1: Like I'm down with John Singleton. That's my mother, my brother,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much with my brother. Be good. We
Speaker 1: got anything else? And do you want to come eat? Um?
Speaker 1: They got it all man, you know we got it
Speaker 1: all right, Yo, man, this has been an honor man,
Speaker 1: y'all first director, I am um first for drink chance,
Speaker 1: the first first drink in the first direction to that,
Speaker 1: I'll take another one out. Damn it. Don't don't don't
Speaker 1: don't tell me to have a good time. And now
Speaker 1: you're going to going to premiere Rebel. Also on effects
Speaker 1: on btthers on BT, snowfalls or effects stuff, the stuff
Speaker 1: all you didn't talk about stuffass, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Snow falls about the it's the beginning of the whole
Speaker 1: um crackt trade in at about cocaine tonight too. Then
Speaker 1: we've got two shows for ABC. Stuff that was in
Speaker 1: the summer. Tonight you have ABC. You got an ABC two.
Speaker 1: No l A Bernard, l A Bernard? Is it the anniverse? Hold?
Speaker 1: Do you realize how busy is he got another man? Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's make some noise for him. Burns about anniversary of
Speaker 1: the l A Riots. Damn, it's crazy. It's been that
Speaker 1: long already. That's after Rodney King. Yeah, that is old world.
Speaker 1: Rodney King got years ago. That's rare. Yeah, verdict. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: So let's let's break that down for the people who
Speaker 1: quickly we get about it here. Yeah, it's just you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's a's documentary about what happened and takes it
Speaker 1: from the street point of view of the people who
Speaker 1: basically from South since South central and uh, the Korean
Speaker 1: culture and the Latin of people who were really scarred
Speaker 1: by it were in the middle of it. Okay, when
Speaker 1: when you say Korean, the Koreans was varriety to their businesses.
Speaker 1: They were defending their their businesses from being looted. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it was a war.
Speaker 1: There's a war zone, you know. Like so but we
Speaker 1: got you know, we got perspectives that no one else has.
Speaker 1: And in this documentary and what was the latinos saying
Speaker 1: coming from just um, well, the people in the documentary
Speaker 1: just they got caught up in it. They got actually
Speaker 1: you know, they got hurt by it. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But that's what I'm trying to tell you.
Speaker 1: Like my grandparents lived in Englewood and they called me
Speaker 1: during the riots. Blood. No, they everybody blood right, That's
Speaker 1: not that's not the truth. That's that's mixed. And they
Speaker 1: called me and they were telling me they were like,
Speaker 1: the Latinos are writing too, because it wasn't showing it
Speaker 1: on TV. They were they made that right pretty much
Speaker 1: a black and they were they were more Latino was
Speaker 1: right and then the black people riding, but they didn't
Speaker 1: want to show that. It says I'm not gonna front
Speaker 1: since my family's Cuban. They look, they're like, we're not Mexican.
Speaker 1: So they're like, the Mexicans are right, but it wasn't.
Speaker 1: But it was like, but it was Mexicans and Al Salvadorians,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like people would who who
Speaker 1: basically are you used to like war situations that were
Speaker 1: like really going at it. It was like it was
Speaker 1: like let's go anarchy, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: you know for war. They grew up in war. So
Speaker 1: they were like, hey, you know, i'm gonna get my car.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it up on pet boys, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give me some new tires, I'm gonna put the transmission.
Speaker 1: People were doing transmissions and changing their cars. You know,
Speaker 1: we didn't show this in the documentary, but I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you know, should be doing that, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like doing the riot. So I mean, there's so many
Speaker 1: different stories to be told within that man, so many
Speaker 1: of this wild time. It was a wild it was
Speaker 1: wild time. And I know you're not gonna tell me this,
Speaker 1: but not feel like, what is John? What is your
Speaker 1: next move? My next one? Are you making the big
Speaker 1: pun movie with me? That would be an amazing movie,
Speaker 1: big movie. I don't know the whole story. You know
Speaker 1: what's really funny is because we was rolling the same
Speaker 1: time of nice like punt had all the bad conditions
Speaker 1: right now, all the funniest I was so jealous. I
Speaker 1: admit that right now, I was so jealous. Girls like
Speaker 1: he's not he's not, he's not, he's not fat like
Speaker 1: belly fat. He's fat the whole room and he has
Speaker 1: three or four around him, right And they were so
Speaker 1: kill me. But don't worry about it. Keeping they were
Speaker 1: so beautiful, like your face will hurt when you saw them.
Speaker 1: And we would hang out at Jimmy's Bronx. We were
Speaker 1: hanging with Jimmy's Bronx and it would just be like
Speaker 1: it would be girls coming from d R and from
Speaker 1: from Puerto Rico. They couldn't speaking laders that were like models,
Speaker 1: and every nigger that was a hip hop would be
Speaker 1: a Jenny's Bronx. That's right what I'm saying. That's right. Look,
Speaker 1: look you can tell. Yeah, you know. I used to
Speaker 1: walk up there and Joe would be there and be like,
Speaker 1: what do you want? It would be like we eat,
Speaker 1: you eat all you can eat, drink all you can eat,
Speaker 1: and then you go dance. And that would be Friday night.
Speaker 1: It was like Friday night. It was Friday Night was
Speaker 1: a band and then Saturday was hip hop exactly. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you know because I went to spots in New York.
Speaker 1: I lived in New York. I was at the grandest
Speaker 1: spots right there, and you know, like we we eat,
Speaker 1: we would drink, and you know, it was always like
Speaker 1: Saturday night. Friday night was the people who would newly
Speaker 1: emigrated to New York because English some kind of Spanish
Speaker 1: to get him in, right, yeah, a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that whole boy to be like, hey listen, right, but
Speaker 1: Saturday night, somebody w always get shot. But when we
Speaker 1: go both right, that's right now, that what you got
Speaker 1: to You got that so because you got a Latin movie, right,
Speaker 1: you never did a whole Latin movie. You had that
Speaker 1: the list called legal tender. Oh yeah, it's like they't
Speaker 1: got it on. I Potato Potato called it on in
Speaker 1: this first movie and then they took him off and
Speaker 1: put him in Faster Furious. That's my brother brother from
Speaker 1: from I think that's no. They go the Loisa me
Speaker 1: and you will be the the most light skinning they died. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: like yeah, you like I shot that down there. I
Speaker 1: produced it now there. I shot that down there and
Speaker 1: we were just you know, it was it was an
Speaker 1: on that team of movie. I was then you had
Speaker 1: the other dude and then the young kid with the
Speaker 1: afro brick basketball. Yeah, because I know you gotta go
Speaker 1: so um, But how do you actually see talent? Like
Speaker 1: when people say like what what what is it? Is?
Speaker 1: It is it? When you It's just my vibe. It's
Speaker 1: like when I vibe of somebody, I've been like okay,
Speaker 1: I vibe with him and say, okay, if I can
Speaker 1: get that original what's really special about them? In the
Speaker 1: original vibe on camera out to the world, then then
Speaker 1: the world see what I see And that's how it
Speaker 1: goes from me. I don't know. I can't say it was,
Speaker 1: but because I got a friend, right, Sunny Sunny d
Speaker 1: Sunny DBT is the funniest guy off camera. Off camera,
Speaker 1: he will roast you. But the minute action and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not that bad, but yeah, you made
Speaker 1: him like a nite he that so sorry, But it's
Speaker 1: not the same. It's not the same. How do you
Speaker 1: like if you was to see that from the actor,
Speaker 1: you just say, damn, you know, I see you off
Speaker 1: camera off camera you're fucking excellent. But once I say,
Speaker 1: I spend time off camera pulling it out of people
Speaker 1: because I've had people like that too. They really like
Speaker 1: they got that, but they don't. They they're nervous. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like get out of yourself. You know. What helps
Speaker 1: them get out of that? What would help if you
Speaker 1: was to do that? Is it liveries? Like it depends
Speaker 1: on the person. It depends on the person, Like are
Speaker 1: you already hiring them or sending them to like a
Speaker 1: coaching class where they're like a little bit of buff,
Speaker 1: a little bit of buff and you know, um, you
Speaker 1: know I called them and and you know, and and
Speaker 1: I have other people work with them too, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Well, John Man we robbed you for
Speaker 1: all your knowledge. Thank you. So you know we are schools,
Speaker 1: we are blasted, we are honest. I want to tell
Speaker 1: you you're you're you're You're one of the greatest artists
Speaker 1: of all time. And that's included everything at all art period.
Speaker 1: You were one of the greatest artists of all time.
Speaker 1: I was very honest, it's my boy. Trevor told me,
Speaker 1: you're John to do it. I was like, for real,
Speaker 1: like I was so, I was so scared. I went,
Speaker 1: I was. I watched every interview you ever did a
Speaker 1: google every I knew, I knew you personally. I just
Speaker 1: wanted I wanted to appreciate your art and we did it,
Speaker 1: and um man, I just can't tell you how much
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. I want you to continue to do
Speaker 1: your tell and continue to do your thing because we
Speaker 1: are proud of what you're doing in cinema and we
Speaker 1: watch everything and we support everything, and we're gonna continue
Speaker 1: to do that. That makes a noise for motherfucker John.
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