1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: I'm Rashaan McDonald, the host of Money Making Conversations Masterclass, 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: where we encourage people to stop reading other people's success 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 2: stories and start planning their own. Listen up as I 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: interview entrepreneurs from around the country, talk to celebrities and 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: ask them how they are running their companies, and speak 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: with nonprofits who are making a difference in their local communities. Now, 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: sit back and listen as we unlock the secrets to 9 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 2: their success on Money Making Conversations Masterclass. The interviews and 10 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 2: information is that this show provides are for everyone. It's 11 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: time to stop reading other people's success stories and start 12 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 2: living your own. I'm here to help you reach your 13 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: American dream. Just keep listening. If you want to be 14 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: a guest on my show, please visit Moneymakingconversations dot com 15 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: and click the b A guest button. My guests founded 16 00:00:55,080 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: the Blurred That's b Lerd Academy That's Black Nerds. It's 17 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: a wealth building program that helps high achieving Black American 18 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 2: youth get scholarships to attend HBCUs. They have secured over 19 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: eight million dollars. That's since twenty sixteen. I believe eight 20 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: million dollars in scholarships. Please work with the Money Making 21 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 2: Conversation Masterclass Douglas Fort Douglas. 22 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: Is that number correct? I don't want to underserve you 23 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: with a number that's incorrect, sir. 24 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: No, the number is correct, and I'm proud of Yes, sir. 25 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: Well, you know something I'm telling you this week, I 26 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 1: am taking nine students who have a sickle sale trade 27 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: or cickle Selle. Disney worked out a deal with them 28 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: and they're going to go to a college fair that's 29 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: in Orlando. It'll be about forty HBCUs there and it'll 30 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: be h All they got to do is bringing their 31 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: you know, the rope SAT scores or ACT scores and 32 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: high school transcript and they can enroll on the spot 33 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: and they can qualify for scholarships full half of tuition. 34 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: So I'm a fan of what you're doing. I just 35 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: wanted to get that little out the way because that's 36 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: a proud moment for me, man, because be able to 37 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: playing that out. So tell us how you got involved, sir. 38 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 3: Well, I'm a blurred myself. I'm a black nerd, but 39 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 3: I didn't know no better growing up in the hood. 40 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 3: It was just you know, you had to mask. You know, 41 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: you had to compete with tupacs and the snoop dogs 42 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 3: at the time. So, you know, when I got of 43 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: age and got into an argument with my actually one 44 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 3: of my best friends about our condition of our community 45 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 3: and what we was talking about. We in our community, 46 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 3: we highlight the entertainer, the athlete, and the misbehaved, but 47 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 3: all of those nerds, they don't pay no attention to us. 48 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: And so we was talking amongst ourselves. If we created 49 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 3: we had this type of insight and information, how much 50 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 3: further will be as young men being black nerds in 51 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 3: this environment. So we created it and there are to 52 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: both graduates from HBCUs. He went to Howard University. I 53 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: graduated from Jackson State University. And we started off just 54 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: trying to you know, hey, where is the money at right, 55 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 3: And we went from there and we was able to 56 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: build relationships with these sbcus and get these kids in. 57 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: So that's how it started. 58 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I want to say I'm a nerd 59 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: to my degree is in mathematics. Okay, I'm a black nerd. 60 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna claim it. I'm gonna claim it. Douglas. 61 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: I'm claiming it. Douglas with two esses. By the way, 62 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: Douglas with two s's Douglas for you know, but the 63 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: journey man. You know when I look at the you know, 64 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: the creating change in young people. You know, you know, 65 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: I think your sister, she's went through this program, correct, 66 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: my sister, the relative of yours? Does anybody went through 67 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: this program? My niece, your niece, I apologize your niece 68 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: went through this program. And when you first started out, 69 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: you know, everybody has doubts. Everybody go, how can you 70 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: pull this off? I hear your dreams. How did you 71 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: overcome that part of a Douglas out comes? 72 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: You know what I've learned about working in our community is, 73 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 3: you know, we got to just put out outcomes. So 74 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 3: what we did was have that conversation, an intellectual conversation 75 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 3: with the parent and the child, saying, hey, if you 76 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 3: get these certain numbers, we've got a relationship with Prayer 77 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 3: of You and you can leave you're debt free. Also, 78 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 3: Prayer View offers a one year master's degree in engineering, 79 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 3: so you can leave here debt free with a master's 80 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 3: degree in engineering and going into your industry with noe debt. 81 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 3: By the time you're twenty five, you can buy your 82 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 3: first preb by the time you're twenty seven, you can 83 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 3: buy your second one by twenty eight, you can be 84 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 3: married starting with your children. 85 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: And so what we've got some great timelines there, Douglas, 86 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: there's a great timelines. 87 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 3: But what it is is that if you have the plan, 88 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 3: if you have the schedule in place, instead of we 89 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: put this out there and we see all these outcomes, 90 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 3: you know. So the way what the way it works 91 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 3: is when you start seeing the success of all our blurs, 92 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: then you'll be like, oh, okay, that's how you beat 93 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 3: the next Sayers was the outcomes, you know. So for us, 94 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: we really don't do a lot of talking. It's like 95 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 3: you want to go talk to a blur then they 96 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 3: could tell you what's going on, so stuff like that. 97 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 3: So that's how I got rid of them, got rid 98 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 3: of the next sairers were it's simply putting out great outcomes. 99 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: And that's really important because they sayers, you know, they 100 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: want to win, man, they want to win they and 101 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: they have no plan, brother, They says don't have plans, man, 102 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: they just have negative They have negativity rules, you know, 103 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: and their fingerpoinners. And I told you so that's their quote. 104 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: I told you so. And uh, when I look at 105 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: organizations like yours, you know, because their bootstep organizations, you know, 106 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,679 Speaker 1: they're they're start with an idea, you have a vision, 107 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: and then but then you when you start seeing results 108 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: and your wow. You know, I think about it, man, 109 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: I think about my life, man when I look back 110 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: on you know, started the Mentoring cap with Steve Harvey 111 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: way back in two thousand and seven. You know what 112 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying, and and and and and and and then 113 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: doing these HBCUs and working with Steven A. Smith with 114 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: his uh HBCU week, you know, you know what I'm saying, 115 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: so so and realizing the amount of scholarship dollars that 116 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: are out there available to students and parents and they 117 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: don't know how can we can we help them because 118 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: they don't know, you know. And but these HBCUs are 119 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: sitting there, they kind of like aren't promoted, they're underfunded, 120 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: they don't have the endowments. And then they turn around 121 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: and basically the government, whether it's a president, my fund 122 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: and I look at the fund they give the government, 123 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: like I think that the funds they gave HBCUs were 124 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: like one point three billion dollars or something like that. 125 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: And you look over the University of Nebraska, their endowment 126 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: along is one billion dollars. Yeah, you know, and and 127 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: and so and so when I went so, I get 128 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: frustrated a little bit. And so when. 129 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: I've heard about it, naturally, when I heard. 130 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: About your program, you know, I want to be able 131 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: to help you have a voice. And so let's talk 132 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: about how can people get in touch with your organization. 133 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: And then we're gonna talk about the qualification because everybody goes, 134 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: I got a kid with. 135 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 3: Every kid Camp, Yeah, everybody. 136 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, we talk aboutainst college, trying to get your kid 137 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: to finish there. 138 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 3: So there's two things. I'm glad you spoke about all that, 139 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 3: the funding and all the organizations and all that. So 140 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 3: let's break it down in all those categories. So first off, 141 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 3: you can reach us at you can see all the 142 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 3: work really in two different places. One is our Instagram 143 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 3: page and that's just the blurd Academy or Black Nerds, 144 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 3: and you'll see all the work there. All are blurts there. 145 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 3: You can need to follow us follow us on LinkedIn 146 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 3: as well. So those are kind of our two points 147 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 3: that you can see the work being done there all right. Now, 148 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 3: when it comes to funding, we don't We're not an 149 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 3: organization like that where me and my friend kind of 150 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,239 Speaker 3: did this in the front of a philanthropist standpoint because 151 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 3: we wanted to be underni I will leave and unequivocally 152 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: black empowered, you know. So we wanted to not be 153 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 3: someone telling us what we can and cannot do by 154 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 3: just because they want to give us some dollars, not 155 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 3: saying we don't take any. But that was one of 156 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 3: our original things. So we created this, uh hall. 157 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: This is what we're going to do it this way, right. 158 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah yeah. Because then then then we created something 159 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 3: where we always tell our blurs, just create a small 160 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,239 Speaker 3: business to help fund your other business. So we create 161 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: a small business called Proud Black Nerds where you can 162 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 3: buy our shirts, our mugs, and that's how you give 163 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 3: to us. It's through creating companies and small businesses, and 164 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 3: then we're showing our blurs. We're not talking about it, 165 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 3: we're being abided by creating a small business. So that's 166 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: how your listeners anybody else can support the BLURD Academy 167 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 3: is through the Proud Black Dirts ww dot, Proud Black 168 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 3: Dierts dot com and just get our merch and that's 169 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 3: how you help us. And so just to just to 170 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 3: go right into what you're saying about getting them qualified. 171 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 3: So let's use an example. I'm gonna give you primise. 172 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 3: I'm gonna use my alma mater for an example. Is 173 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 3: that Okay University State right? Yes? Jackson State? 174 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: Yes? 175 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 3: Uh so at Jackson State University, your baby, I'm talking 176 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 3: to the kids. Where the kids need to have a 177 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 3: three point two five eleven thirty SAT or twenty three 178 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 3: ACT and that would get you a full tuition scholarship. 179 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 3: So that's number, that's stage one, Stage two. If you 180 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 3: got a three point two five with a twelve hundred SAT, 181 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: that's a full ride scholarship, room board to you know 182 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 3: all that. Then if you got a three point five 183 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 3: with a twenty eight ACT or a thirteen hundred SAT, 184 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 3: it's a presidential scholarship. That's room boards, books, fees, everything. 185 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 3: So these are things that when you partnership with these 186 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 3: types of schools, they saying, hey, Dougie or Dougie, that's 187 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 3: my name, doug go get go get If you got 188 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 3: some babies like this, we got the brand form because 189 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 3: those type of kids literally would go in especially be 190 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 3: in Georgia. They say, Okay, I'd rather go to University 191 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 3: of Georgia or right, that's fine, that makes sense. I'm 192 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 3: not mad at you going to those what they would 193 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 3: call the higher branded schools. But I'm just saying, look 194 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 3: at our schools as an option, because I'd rather you 195 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 3: leave debt free at Jackson State than being debt at 196 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 3: Georgia University of Georgia, because it just stops you from 197 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 3: and now stops you It just slows you down from 198 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 3: the economic sides, buying the home, all these other things, 199 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: starting a small business and all that. So that is 200 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 3: kind of the matrix on is in one institution as 201 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 3: an example of how do you get money at HBCUs. 202 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: You know, it's really interesting now, Douglas, you got it 203 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: called with that? Dougie, Hey, Dougie, what's up? 204 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 4: What's that? What's that? 205 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: What's up? Now? You know you man, your your your story, 206 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: your backstory? Now you was you got the streets won 207 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: the streets one when you know the team. You know, 208 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: I look back on my life and uh, I grew 209 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,599 Speaker 1: up in Fifth Ward in Houston, Texas. So when you 210 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: say prayer View, there's just wrong hold. You know that 211 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: bail boy, he all in my neighborhood preview in Houston, Texas. 212 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 3: And and I, you. 213 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 1: Know, my school, and and I didn't get the HBCUs 214 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: coming out of college. You know how the high school, 215 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: you know they were they're recruiting me. And I wound 216 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: up going to I went to enrolled in the Southern 217 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: University in Baton Rouge, and then at the last minute 218 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: opted out and eventually got my degree at the University 219 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: of Houston in Houston, Texas. But because I didn't understand, 220 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I didn't value what an HBCU was and 221 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: didn't understand what it brought to the table. And you're 222 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: talking about tier one students, and that is the most 223 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: value student that every college wants in this situation. That 224 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're a tier one student at a predominant 225 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: white institution. You're going to get a scholarship, that doesn't 226 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: mean you're going to get a full ride. And I 227 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 1: was talking to a good friend of mine, doctor Sonya Lewis, 228 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: out of Philadelphia. She said, reach out, I'm gonna tell 229 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: you something. Student loans are the only thing in college now. 230 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: If you try to get a student loan, and you 231 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: and look at for a house, you have nothing to 232 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: offer for a student loan. They don't really check your credit. 233 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: They don't ask you do you have any equity, They 234 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: don't ask you're gonna put up any collateral. They just 235 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: give you the money. She said, when you look at 236 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: the hides works out. It is the craziest system in 237 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: the world. And people are driving up forty thousand and 238 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: fifty half a million dollars worth of student loans. 239 00:12:55,720 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, insane. And we use that matrix too. We 240 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 3: use the d the debt to income racio analogy when 241 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 3: we say, yeah, you graduated from Stanford with four hundred 242 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 3: thousand in debt, but I graduated from Jackson State. But 243 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 3: you go into the bank, your debt to income ratio matters, 244 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 3: your credit matters, the amount of money that you get 245 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 3: from your house. So I'm not knocking those branded schools, 246 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 3: of course, but if you can't get in and leave 247 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 3: your undergrad but little to no debt, that's the go 248 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 3: for all the institutions, especially for Black Americans. So we 249 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 3: created this well building conversation to have with those kids 250 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 3: that actually qualified for the Yales. The Princeton's the staffords 251 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 3: to say, hey, yeah you got in the Stanford, you 252 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 3: got any Yale. But those same numbers are full rides 253 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 3: at our institutions, the Tuskegees, the Tennessee States. So just 254 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 3: consider these as an option and then whenever the financial 255 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 3: aid come out, you can determine as a family what 256 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 3: is best and also tell parents, hey, that same amount 257 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 3: of money you to pay for that brand, you can 258 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 3: use it on the back end to cover either graduate 259 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 3: school or get them a their startup condo or house. 260 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 3: So let's use our money efficiently as we're trying to 261 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 3: make long term economic gains for our children. I'd rather 262 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 3: you spend that one hundred thousand going to spend at 263 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 3: these other institutions on the back end, at for his 264 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 3: starter home in roll Up, North Carolina, or outside of Atlanta, 265 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 3: or somewhere you know in Houston, outside of Houston where 266 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 3: he can buy and own. Those are life changing things. 267 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 3: And so that's what we leveraging our conversations, and we're 268 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 3: talking about money. At the end of the day. Let's 269 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 3: get this. 270 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: Money and throw some facts at the Douglas. Okay, this 271 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: is blacks who attend HBCUs. 272 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 3: Come on. 273 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: Of the people who are black that are as they 274 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: say is in stem come from HBCUs. Seventy percent of 275 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: the doctors who are black come from HBCUs. Seventy of 276 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: the dentists who are black con from HBCUs. The lawyers 277 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: who are black come from HBCUs. Seventy percent of the 278 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: judges who are black come from HBCUs. Do you see 279 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: where I'm going? Educational system sixty percent of the black 280 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: teachers come from HBCUs. So in this conversation, what I'm 281 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: just trying to tell everybody, we're not just hyping. And 282 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: I didn't go to an HBCU, but I gotta talk. 283 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: I gotta state the facts when I start seeing the facts. 284 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: And the facts is that your child can go to 285 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: an HPCU. Your child can walk out of there with 286 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: a degree and get hired, and you'll be competitive, you 287 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: get hired and also debt free. Come on that. When 288 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: we get back, we're gonna talk to some more with 289 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: Douglas with two S is a dougie. Like he likes 290 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: to say it, it broke me down with the dougie. 291 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: Na Douglas Fort come back, man, this is great. The 292 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: black nerd I got them on my show money Making 293 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: Conversations Master Class. 294 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 3: Go. 295 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: Hear about how those streets almost swallow them up, but 296 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: he fall back and he created this organization, this academy 297 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: to day with his boy. 298 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 4: Please go anywhere. We'll be right back with more money 299 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 4: Making Conversations Masterclass. Welcome back to the Money Making Conversations Masterclass, 300 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 4: hosted by Rashaan McDonald. Money Making Conversations Masterclass continues online 301 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 4: at Moneymakingconversations dot com and follow money Making Conversations Masterclass 302 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 4: on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. 303 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: I am a black nerd. I am not a member 304 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: of the Blurred Academy because it was founded after I 305 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: went to college Douglas. After I went to college, it 306 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: was good. I'm going to tell you some way after 307 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: because I graduated seventy six. So you you you have 308 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: a long time ago, brother. But along the way, man, 309 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: I understood the value of HBCUs and I'm an advocate. 310 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: I am an ambassador. One could say that, you know, 311 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: because of the fact that I see the value as 312 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: Hee Tier one students see the quality of it. Do 313 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: my research, like you said, do your research. A lot 314 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: of people don't do the research. Now and when I 315 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 1: was interviewing doctor Sony Lewis when she really broke it 316 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: down about how they just be passing out these student 317 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: loans and these people just be just accepting and guess 318 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 1: what you need them. But then you don't know the 319 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: consequences because they do impact your lifestyle. When you try 320 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: to move on, you can't. True, it's true, and you know, 321 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: but you came from California and the streets almost swallowed 322 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: you up. And help us understand what mentor saved you 323 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: and how did you make it to Jackson State. 324 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 3: Well, two things. I'm born and raised in the city 325 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 3: of East Palazzo, California, predominantly black institution right on the 326 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 3: South Plinch was right in the heart of Silicon Valley. 327 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 3: And at the time I grew up, it was the 328 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 3: middle of the crack apademic And in nineteen ninety one 329 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 3: I got shot in the face twice. The bullet is 330 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 3: still in my neck by well, one of the bullets 331 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,239 Speaker 3: is still in my neck. And how I transitioned. I 332 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 3: was always a nerd. It was just that environment turns. 333 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 3: You have to become something to defend it, to make 334 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 3: it in that environment. Did a lot of fighting growing 335 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: up and doing these things, and so how I got 336 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 3: to the journey. How I got to Jackson State is 337 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 3: very interesting because I remember in nineteen ninety five, our 338 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 3: crack house got raided. It is a true story, y'all. 339 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 3: This is what happened. And I remember one of the 340 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 3: homies that one of the homies that was one of 341 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 3: my big homies at the time, he went to the penitentiary, 342 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 3: so that house was shut down. And I'm walking down 343 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 3: the street and I ran into another big homye of mine. 344 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 3: He like, my nickname from the neighborhood is called Fresh. 345 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 3: If they call me Fresh. Fred's getting the car and 346 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 3: he like, what you up to? And I'm like nothing, man, 347 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 3: I'm just trying to get this money because I was 348 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 3: rocked in my pocket. I'm about to go hustle at 349 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 3: the park at Jackville Park at the time. And he's like, hey, man, 350 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 3: what you got going. I'm like, noney, Like you think 351 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 3: you think about going to school. I'm like, nah, bro, 352 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 3: I'm making too much money out here. And my old 353 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 3: g told me this. He said this, and he said, look, 354 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 3: promise me this. You go off to college and you 355 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 3: put the same energy putting into this block, and if 356 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 3: it don't work out, you can come home. It is 357 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 3: what it is. So my old gene told me, you 358 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 3: need to go off to college, and that's when I met. 359 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 3: I went, I went, and I never looked back because 360 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 3: I put the same energy I put in the hustling 361 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 3: into into college and I became an honor student. I'm 362 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 3: an honors college graduate from jack State Magnan Cumlati. Uh 363 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 3: and uh that's how I got to jack State University. 364 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: You know. The sad part of that story is he knew. 365 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: He knew what he was doing was a dead end. 366 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: And I always talk about people get to a point 367 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: in life where they think that's all they can do, 368 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: or they go, this is me, and that's not true. 369 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: I don't care what you do. We're getting out of jail. 370 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: That does to mean that it's the end of the 371 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: row when you get in jail, or living it, because dude, 372 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: I lived. I look at it my life today and 373 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: I go, yeah, it was probably three times in my life. 374 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: I honestly couldn't tell you. I probably should be dead 375 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: at least three times. Yeh, at least three times. And 376 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: I think about it and I tell people when I 377 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: wake up in the morning. You know, there's an earnest 378 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: to me waking up because I have to accomplish something, 379 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: to have to do something, Douglas. And when I heard 380 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: that you was coming on my show and I heard 381 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: your backstory, you know, it almost brought me to tears 382 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 1: because I knew somebody pushed you out the door, but 383 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: didn't pushed himself out the door. Yeah, and his story 384 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: is a sad story because it ain't gonna aat good 385 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: because he stayed. Yeah. 386 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think that if you add it, 387 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 3: you know, coming back and forth to school and just growing, 388 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 3: you know, when it would really changed the whole thing. 389 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 3: When I started my first company when I was twenty 390 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 3: years old, when I got to that was one of 391 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 3: the things that really changed my life. When I gave 392 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 3: my life over to Jesus Christ in nineteen ninety eight 393 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 3: and I created a nonprofit Call for Youth by Youth 394 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 3: that was a reentry in youth development and healing traumas 395 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 3: and trauma program in the city of East Palalato. And 396 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 3: I ran that for twelve years and I've done so 397 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 3: much great work in that thing. So it was more 398 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 3: or less Jackson State allowed me to be in a 399 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 3: safe place to grow my spirituality and my friendships and 400 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 3: my black love, and it allowed me to go back. 401 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 3: It's like an incuebaker that they created them in there 402 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 3: where I could be completely myself there and I was 403 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 3: able to take that those teachings and those friendships and 404 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 3: all that do Christians cruse safe for Christ and come 405 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 3: on back home and really trying to rebuild my whole community, 406 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 3: like you know I created. I helped launch a program 407 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 3: called Living Peace. I helped launch another program called the 408 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 3: East Palato Greyhounds that got a bunch of NFL players. 409 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 3: I even helped through one of the peace treaties I 410 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 3: did in the neighborhood. The director of the US Marshals 411 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 3: right now, doctor RONA. Davis, we did some work together 412 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 3: in the neighborhood and he's where he's acted some of 413 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 3: the work we did in the neighborhood. So God has 414 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 3: put our hands on all these people I just named 415 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 3: through the Worker for Youth by Youth and what I 416 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 3: did in our neighborhood. So I'm excited about all the 417 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 3: things that I was able to put my hands on. 418 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 3: And it's pretty much leave it back to what God 419 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 3: has put on my heart to do. Right. 420 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: I want to have a quote that I have of yours, Douglas, 421 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: this is a spiritual calling. My mission is to rebuild 422 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: our community and then start with young men because they're 423 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: the ones who will be the providers for their families. 424 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: We exist as an organization to build a healthy community 425 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: that is black, educated, resourceful, and determined. And we're doing 426 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: it as black nerds are blurred at a time. 427 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 3: That's my quote. 428 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something, brother. I don't get too 429 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: emotional on this show, but you get me there because 430 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: it almost makes me feel like I'm not doing enough. 431 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: And you know, you know what I'm saying. You know, 432 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: you know it. You've seen it, man, You know when 433 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: you grew because a lot of people don't know when 434 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: you grow up in the hood. Man, you go back, brother, 435 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 1: it ain't it ain't got it hadn't gotten better, It 436 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: hadn't gotten better. You know, it might be Hispanic now, 437 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 1: it might be Hispanic, Like my hood is e Hispanic now. 438 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm talking about. 439 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: It's like they moved out and I don't know where 440 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: the black people went. But they ain't in my hood 441 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: no more. Okay, you know, and uh and so but 442 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: but I but I won't stop, man, I won't stop, Dougs, 443 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: I can't stop. But I love the fact that you 444 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: encourage your students to buy property. I love the fact 445 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: that you tell them to secure that bag of money 446 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: through graduate school. There's not there's more to your academy 447 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: than just education. It's a story about life. As we 448 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,239 Speaker 1: wrap up, just tell everybody what drives you. What's your 449 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: vision for the future for the blur to cad me. 450 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 3: Calling, you know, to rebuild our community, one blurred at 451 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 3: a time. And my goal is to make all these 452 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 3: blurres be happily married and wealthy. To build each black family. 453 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 3: I've seen it growing up in these palanza before crack hit. 454 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 3: I've seen a vision of a healthy black family. And 455 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 3: so for me, that's my mission is to see black 456 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 3: men be provider males so they can leave their families, 457 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 3: uh to the next next to the next day. So 458 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 3: that's my mission. 459 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: Well, bro, brother, if you don't have my cell numb, 460 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it to you. And if you ever 461 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: need me, uh, you know, to say, Rashaan, could you 462 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: you know, break me off some of I'll go talk 463 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: to the wife's and wife uh the nerds. The black 464 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: nerds need me, baby, they need to. 465 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 3: Proud black Just go to Look you can, like I said, 466 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 3: proud of your crew. Look, go to the w W dot. 467 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 2: Buy some of that, Buy some of that swag, some 468 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 2: of that some cups and T shirts, you know. 469 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: And also, man, I want to sit down. Man if 470 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: I can help you with a sponsor, you know that 471 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: understands what you're trying to do, because you got history, 472 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And uh, there are a 473 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: lot of corporations out there, you know, despite their rhetoric 474 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: out there, by diversity, equity, inclusion, understand the value of diversity, 475 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: understand the value of educating, and understanding by creating qualified 476 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: student citizens who want to vote, they'll pay these taxes. 477 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: And so I want to sit down and talk to 478 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: you about it. So yeah, you know what I'm saying, 479 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: that's the game. But more importantly, Man, I'm glad you 480 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: took the time to call in my show so we 481 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: can hear the story of Douglas Ford. Man, you're a 482 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: powerful brother, and I'm happy I'm able to share my 483 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: story over my airways and it's pretty big airways, my brother, and. 484 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 3: Uh, I appreciate it. 485 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: And again thank you for calling money Making Conversations massic class. 486 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: My brother, We talked soon, all right. This has been 487 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: another edition of money Making Conversations Master Class hosted by 488 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: me rashand thank you to our guest on the show 489 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: today and thank you our listening audience now. 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