Speaker 1: Welcome to the Solid Verbal. Call that for me. I'm
Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,
Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy
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Speaker 2: Is that? Whoo whoom? And Dan and Tie welcome back
Speaker 2: to the Solid Verbal boys and girls. My name is
Speaker 2: Ty Hildebrandt joining me over there. Fine gentlemen. You know
Speaker 2: Ms Dan Rubinstein, Dan and I. We run a little
Speaker 2: show called It'll Come to Me Dan. What is this called? Well?
Speaker 1: I would I would hope that everybody knows the name
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Speaker 2: Sir. How are you you?
Speaker 1: I'm good. I feel like you're having a day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been a long day for.
Speaker 2: Me, Dan, okay, long day of meetings, a long day
Speaker 2: of corporate America. So I'm a little bit I'm a
Speaker 2: little bit of a brain drain state right now.
Speaker 1: That's good I love that because I know you've had
Speaker 1: this show. Not unlike fans looking at the fall schedule,
Speaker 1: the football slate, they got that that week circled. Oh
Speaker 1: when we go to X State, x Tech, that's the game, right,
Speaker 1: I feel like we've had this, or at least you
Speaker 1: have have had this topic. We're doing a Q and
Speaker 1: A show. We've got a ton of college football questions.
Speaker 1: Don't worry, it's still, at least in name, a college
Speaker 1: football show. But we also have bathroom etiquette questions, which
Speaker 1: I would venture to say, and I will stress this Ty.
Speaker 1: Bathroom etiquette not procedure. Right. We had some people write
Speaker 1: in and say, like should I wipe standing up or
Speaker 1: sitting down? It's like, you know what, that's a you thing,
Speaker 1: follow your bliss. I can't tell you the right or
Speaker 1: wrong answer, but etiquette wise, Ty and I have strong thoughts.
Speaker 1: But you, in particular, this is this is not just
Speaker 1: a professional endeavor for you, right, this is a personal passion.
Speaker 2: It's sort of like my life's work. You could say you.
Speaker 1: Love space, you love bathroom etiquette, and the forever search
Speaker 1: for a full night's sleep.
Speaker 2: Correct. There are other oddball subjects in there. No, Yes,
Speaker 2: the subject has been something I've observed in my professional
Speaker 2: life in my personal life.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, So we'll try to get into it without
Speaker 1: getting a lot of question Intenny Laura details.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we should point out we decided bab we'll throw
Speaker 2: it out there to people ask us some questions. We
Speaker 2: received more questions on this subject for lack of a
Speaker 2: better term, because this is a bathroom Meticutt show. It
Speaker 2: binds us. Tie, don't forget you can write a review
Speaker 2: for the show. I saw some folks out there saying, well,
Speaker 2: we like the show, but they talk a little bit
Speaker 2: too much about themselves, too much personalized stuff. It is
Speaker 2: may this is what we do.
Speaker 1: This is a show about ourselves, and we get sidetracked
Speaker 1: into college football. We promised to get to more college football,
Speaker 1: fair criticism, but we're going to start with college football
Speaker 1: here this evening, and then we will see where the
Speaker 1: conversation takes us.
Speaker 2: If that is fine with you, Dan.
Speaker 1: I know where it's going, Ty, It's going down that
Speaker 1: drain quite literally and figuratively.
Speaker 2: Congratulations, Skippy, you've got mail.
Speaker 1: You've got mail.
Speaker 2: On the solid verbal Dan. As often as we can,
Speaker 2: we like to play that age old sound. One of
Speaker 2: the lone holdovers from our early days back in two
Speaker 2: thousand and.
Speaker 1: Eight, a by gone era.
Speaker 2: We like to pay homage Dan to those folks who
Speaker 2: write in via email, via Twitter, Facebook, what have you
Speaker 2: messenger pigeon. In this particular case, we decide to ask
Speaker 2: for football and some other college football or not college
Speaker 2: football related questions. Why don't we start with the college
Speaker 2: football If I think that's a good direct, that is
Speaker 2: all the same to you, Let's go to John John Tucker, Dan,
Speaker 2: John Tucker must die? He said, who is the next
Speaker 2: Bill Snyder?
Speaker 1: Okay, how do you take that interpretation? How do you
Speaker 1: take that question? What does that mean to you? Who's
Speaker 1: the next coach of Kansas State? Or who's the next
Speaker 1: legendary coach to retire and come back? That's how I
Speaker 1: took it.
Speaker 2: I was I was thinking more along the lines of
Speaker 2: the ladder, maybe with a weird twist of an age
Speaker 2: old starter jacket. I don't know if you're going to
Speaker 2: find a whole lot of coaches who retire and come back,
Speaker 2: that's that's almost impossible to predict. But I kind of
Speaker 2: thought of it more broadly in the sense of which
Speaker 2: coaches are currently in a role that I could see
Speaker 2: them being in forever.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, that's more of a Paterno. I'm going to say,
Speaker 1: like in a role, they maybe move on to another level.
Speaker 1: Maybe they go up to the NFL and maybe they're fired.
Speaker 1: Maybe they just decide it's not for them, and they're
Speaker 1: more of a like a say in situation, they're more
Speaker 1: of a college type and returned to the place that
Speaker 1: helped to build that reputation. So not unlike and this
Speaker 1: would be an example, Bobby Patrino at Louisville, right, sort
Speaker 1: of realized NFL wasn't for him, got into trouble at Arkansas,
Speaker 1: returned to the place that helped to build him. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to say he was going to be thought
Speaker 1: of as fondly as as Bill Snyders in Manhattan, but
Speaker 1: I'm going to say that return to past glory sexy
Speaker 1: Randy Edsel, Right, So let me let me ask you this.
Speaker 2: Then, Yeah, if Lane Kiffin were to somehow, in a
Speaker 2: weird alternate universe be rehired by Tennessee or USC, would
Speaker 2: that count.
Speaker 1: No, Because he left on acrimonious terms. So did Bobby
Speaker 1: Patrino from Louisville. I think it was Okay, maybe it
Speaker 1: was acrimonious in that, like you're losing this guy who's
Speaker 1: been so good for your program, but he was advancing
Speaker 1: to the NFL at that point. Okay, it was an
Speaker 1: understandable It's not we hate Bobby Patrino because he left
Speaker 1: us for the Falcons. Like if you were to leave
Speaker 1: your job for like a higher class gentleman's club, your
Speaker 1: current job couldn't say this doesn't make sense. Right, So
Speaker 1: here's what I have, and it saw me if you
Speaker 1: have the same thing. Legendary Cincinnati coach Brian Kelly returns
Speaker 1: to his glory. Maybe he takes a shot with the
Speaker 1: Vikings in three years and doesn't work out. He's a
Speaker 1: legend and unfinished business like the Sugar Bowl that he
Speaker 1: abandoned his team in Sexy Randy Etzel obviously as the
Speaker 1: opportunity right now, I mean, taking Yukon to a festival
Speaker 1: now appears to be more significant than it perhaps seemed
Speaker 1: at the time. Robert Davey at Notre Dame and with
Speaker 1: Wisconsin and Barry Alvarez, like thirty yards from the head
Speaker 1: coach's office, it's always on the table ty. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: about Tom Herman long term because Tom Herman. If Tom
Speaker 1: Herman has any degree success in rebuilding Texas, right, he
Speaker 1: is clearly going to get a call from the NFL okay,
Speaker 1: and if that doesn't work out, you have to believe
Speaker 1: that if Texas needs a guy, they'd go back to
Speaker 1: the Herman well, because he started his career there. Clearly
Speaker 1: at that point he wove some credibility within Longhorn Nation.
Speaker 1: I could see perspectively him being an interesting name for this.
Speaker 1: So that's two steps you're looking at two steps. So
Speaker 1: he has not you know, he's only built his legend
Speaker 1: basically at Houston. He was only there a couple of years.
Speaker 1: So I don't feel like so Bill Snyder's first go
Speaker 1: round at Kansas State was sixteen or seventeen years nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty nine to two thousand and five. Came back in
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine when it was clear that the
Speaker 1: Wildcats needed his help. So I would imagine Tom Herman
Speaker 1: would have to be at Texas for a while to
Speaker 1: compare it to a Bill Snyder situation. What about Chip
Speaker 1: Kelly going back to Oregon. So that seemed like it
Speaker 1: was on the table, and that would have fitted slightly
Speaker 1: different circumstances. Than Bill Snyder and Kansas State. But yes,
Speaker 1: realizing that perhaps his speed was more Eugene, Oregon than
Speaker 1: Philadelphia or San Francisco in the NFL would have been
Speaker 1: a cousin to the Bill Snyder situation.
Speaker 2: Good question here from John Deaker. Next John, No, Josh,
Speaker 2: excuse me, Josh, how about some Big ten West talk?
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, how about some Big ten West talk? We
Speaker 2: do have a soundtrack for this, Dan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to spice this Big ten West talker.
Speaker 1: Fuck you?
Speaker 2: What are Northwesterns chances to win the division? How about
Speaker 2: Purdue's timetable for success? With Jeff Brahm at the helm,
Speaker 2: is his offense going to change the league? Like Joe
Speaker 2: Tiller in the ninetiesel Youl?
Speaker 1: So here's how I see the Big ten West at
Speaker 1: the moment. Wisconsin is probably still in the best overall
Speaker 1: shape even though they're on there. What it's third defensive
Speaker 1: coordinat in three years? Yes, and agreed, lost some big
Speaker 1: names on defense. TJ. Watts was a first round pick.
Speaker 1: I think he went to the Steelers.
Speaker 2: Also, did you know JJ Watts brother?
Speaker 1: I did? I did just find that out this morning. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what a crazy world in which we live. Experience back
Speaker 1: at running back. They got a couple of pieces to
Speaker 1: fill in on the offensive line. Your boy Alex Hornybrook
Speaker 1: is full time now quarterback. So I think Wisconsin's still
Speaker 1: in the best position. It appears. They miss Ohio State
Speaker 1: and they get Michigan and Iowa at home. It's it's
Speaker 1: a good time to have a nice schedule in the
Speaker 1: Big Ten. West Iowa new quarterback Brian Farrens is now
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator, so you know that Farence family. They're
Speaker 1: gonna open things up on offense. Nebraska will be starting
Speaker 1: a kind of below average Tulane QB. So get excited
Speaker 1: about that. Bob Diaco so great head of hair, great
Speaker 1: hit that three four. Nebraska replaces pretty much everybody than
Speaker 1: the very fast and sometimes injured de Mornay. Piersonell and
Speaker 1: also a really really good name on Nebraska's defense. His
Speaker 1: first name is Freedom. I'm not going to even attempt
Speaker 1: to pronounce his last name, but he's an edge rusher
Speaker 1: for Nebraska and his name is Freedom. I have PJ Flack,
Speaker 1: you have Purdue with Jeff Broms, so two new head
Speaker 1: coaches there, so Minnesota has a lot of work to do.
Speaker 1: Rob Smith. You may remember Rob Smith from his time
Speaker 1: giving up every single yard at Arkansas last year and
Speaker 1: Northwestern it's a really good time and all seriousness, ty,
Speaker 1: it is a really good time to have a steady program.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. You mentioned that, and you're right,
Speaker 2: I think Northwestern. The question here is what are their
Speaker 2: chances to win the division? They probably have as good
Speaker 2: a chance as anyone outside of Wisconsin because they bring
Speaker 2: back Clayton Thorson, who we both like. Justin Jackson had
Speaker 2: a huge Bowl game. The question will be what do
Speaker 2: they put around those two guys from a playmaker stamp
Speaker 2: can they block for them? But they do bring back
Speaker 2: a very talented defense that should help them in the
Speaker 2: Big Ten West. Do you look at the schedule, I
Speaker 2: mean there are some land mines on there, but no
Speaker 2: Michigan Ohio State though no Michigan or or Ohio State,
Speaker 2: so they're set up pretty well if they want to
Speaker 2: make a run, if they can get it together early enough.
Speaker 2: The meat of their schedule is Wisconsin on the road,
Speaker 2: followed by Penn State, and that's relatively early in the season,
Speaker 2: so we'll get a better idea of where the Wildcats
Speaker 2: stand as far as that goes. But I like Northwestern
Speaker 2: per do. I like moving forward, but they've got holes
Speaker 2: all across the field. While I do think Jeff Brom
Speaker 2: will build them up, it's going to take time.
Speaker 1: So on our Coach Higher podcast Weird show that we
Speaker 1: did a couple weeks ago, one of the things that
Speaker 1: I think Stephen Godfrey mentioned was the most important hire
Speaker 1: is the coordinator on the side of the ball in
Speaker 1: which the coach is not used to or not his
Speaker 1: background specifically. Sure, so Jeff Brom brings over one of
Speaker 1: my all time favorite defensive coordinators and Nick Holts from
Speaker 1: Western Kentucky. You may remember, I think Pete Carroll had
Speaker 1: hired him at USC, spends some time at Idaho as
Speaker 1: their head coach has been around and Nick Holts at
Speaker 1: Western Western Kentucky. The S and P plus defense went
Speaker 1: from one to eighteen to sixty to forty two the
Speaker 1: past three years, and that includes a jump in one
Speaker 1: year from the first to second year of one seventeen
Speaker 1: to twenty five against the pass pass efficiency defense against
Speaker 1: the conference teams, So there is a track record of
Speaker 1: defensive improvement from year one to year two. Year one
Speaker 1: is just establishing culture scheme, playbook, getting to know what
Speaker 1: you need to fill in. Purdue is not going to
Speaker 1: do all that much beyond. I think have some fun
Speaker 1: nuggets this year, but I would not expect a ton
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen Northwestern. When I look at the Big
Speaker 1: Ten West, I don't know if you want to play
Speaker 1: the medal again.
Speaker 2: Uh, there we go, Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1: Northwestern may have the best and most proven backfield. Is
Speaker 1: that weird to say in the division? I'm a little
Speaker 1: uncomfortable with that. So Clayton Thorson last year finished third
Speaker 1: in the Big Ten inefficiency as a quarterback, ahead of J. T. Barrett,
Speaker 1: ahead of C. J. Bethard, ahead of Alex Harnybrook, Tommy Armstrong,
Speaker 1: Mitch Lyner, all these people hit a good year. Justin
Speaker 1: Jackson's been there for seventeen years. He's going to rush
Speaker 1: for a million yards if he stays healthy. And here's
Speaker 1: the big thing with Northwestern that we have not even
Speaker 1: mentioned yet. They're coming off of an enormous Pinstripe Bowl victory.
Speaker 1: Time cannot overstate the importance of that Pinstripe bowlwin. So
Speaker 1: I think the Big Ten West will go as follows.
Speaker 1: Top three Wisconsin, Northwestern Iowa.
Speaker 2: Moving on, let's go to Ryan. He says, would you
Speaker 2: rather Danny Ettling or June arriving Malik Zayer to run
Speaker 2: Matt Canada's offense at LSU in twenty seventeen?
Speaker 1: I think, Zayir, I think the ceiling is higher. I
Speaker 1: think we have a concept for Danny Etling's ceiling. That said,
Speaker 1: I think Matt Canada is very good at fine wrinkles
Speaker 1: and the best position for his quarterbacks in offense. You
Speaker 1: saw that last year with the blending of some spread
Speaker 1: concepts and power with James Connor a pitt. I feel
Speaker 1: as if, I don't know why I need to preface
Speaker 1: it with I feel it seems as if LSU with
Speaker 1: an experienced offensive line, intriguing skill talent, a legitimately great
Speaker 1: running back, if not one of the best in the
Speaker 1: country already, it seems as if Malik Zayre gives them
Speaker 1: an element if he can stay healthy and if Matt
Speaker 1: Canada can put him in position to complete completable throws
Speaker 1: for him, that the offense will have a higher ceiling
Speaker 1: with Zayre, So I would go. I would go in
Speaker 1: that direction if he is as advertised, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2: LSU has had mobile quarterbacks who could scramble but couldn't
Speaker 2: necessarily throw. Zaire can throw. Zaire can throw. Last year
Speaker 2: might not have been the absolute most representative sample of
Speaker 2: what he has to offer on the football field, but
Speaker 2: dude can throw and he can certainly run, so absolutely
Speaker 2: higher ceiling for league's are. Like you said, you already
Speaker 2: have a baseline for Danny Eetling. You know what you're
Speaker 2: getting there with Matt Canada, I think MALIGU'SAIA would be
Speaker 2: a much better option.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it. What'll come down to, especially when
Speaker 1: Zaya gets to campus, is who picks up the verbiage.
Speaker 1: Who is just more comfortable running the sort of skeleton
Speaker 1: of that offense?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Uh, Santos be free, Santos. If Oregon played Notre Dame
Speaker 1: in a future championship game, which of you would take
Speaker 1: the loss better? And would you be friends afterwards? Yeah?
Speaker 2: This is an interesting question.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you've you have recently fallen asleep while watching
Speaker 1: a Notre Dame national championship game.
Speaker 2: I have. I would be outwardly more upset you, really,
Speaker 2: I would. You would probably be a little more tranquil
Speaker 2: on the surface, but more passive aggressive later. That's my
Speaker 2: on the situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would shut down having to watch what three
Speaker 1: national championship losses in say, a ten year span. If
Speaker 1: this happened in the next couple of years, that'd be rough. Tie,
Speaker 1: that'd be rough. It takes me a little bit. You
Speaker 1: were sort of resigned and made peace with it pretty quickly.
Speaker 2: The thing about it is that people don't realize neither
Speaker 2: one of us is really a trash talker.
Speaker 1: That's true. I'm much more passive aggressive with the music
Speaker 1: and the elderly audience for Notre Dame football. Okay, but we.
Speaker 2: Don't necessarily have a trash talking not to each other,
Speaker 2: not to each other. We put on a good show here.
Speaker 2: But so from that standpoint, there wouldn't necessarily be a
Speaker 2: very obvious reason to be mad at that person. It
Speaker 2: would be more directed at our teams or their opponents.
Speaker 2: But right, so, yeah, I think friends afterwards as be
Speaker 2: would be in order. Yeah, absolutely earliest friendly acquaintances. I
Speaker 2: don't know about this sub question here.
Speaker 1: Oh you don't like that sub question, No, you can
Speaker 1: ask it, But I'm just wants to know has type
Speaker 1: been antagonistic towards Oregon lately, Am I just being sensitive?
Speaker 1: You're probably just being sensitive, which is okay, that's part
Speaker 1: of being a fan.
Speaker 2: But in fairness, Dan, h I have taken a lot
Speaker 2: of crap. After the Fantasy Thing show and after the
Speaker 2: Secret Garbage Bracket, people really have really come at me.
Speaker 2: And I'm a big boy. I can take the criticism right,
Speaker 2: but there seems to be an assertion out there that
Speaker 2: I am just a giant beta male unable to hold
Speaker 2: my ground against you.
Speaker 1: Oh, ty well. I think it also hurts that everybody
Speaker 1: loved the Notre Dame fourn eate thing an Oregon one
Speaker 1: fourn eight, and everybody just sort of glossed over that
Speaker 1: and turned their collective attention to Notre Dame's record.
Speaker 2: What people don't realize is that you're so insistent that
Speaker 2: eventually I have to give otherwise our show is going
Speaker 2: to be four hours. That's true, Okay, relentless, You're relentless,
Speaker 2: But I have maybe been a little bit more antagonistic towards.
Speaker 1: Organ That's okay. We'll see what happens during the season.
Speaker 2: Kenneth right, he writes, in which Arizona School will have
Speaker 2: a better season.
Speaker 1: Dan shout out to the territorial cop tie.
Speaker 2: That's right. Arizona and Arizona State are the two most
Speaker 2: obvious choices here. Do you have a strong lean?
Speaker 1: Probably Arizona, but I'm worried about that defense.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: Arizona State's overhauling everything. They've got two new coordinators. The
Speaker 1: Blake Barnett edition is interesting, but they are philosophically just
Speaker 1: overhauling everything. And Arizona State, since they went what three
Speaker 1: years ago now to the Pac twelve Championship game, they've
Speaker 1: been kind of secret garbage. They have not been good
Speaker 1: as well as Todd Graham has coached this team early on,
Speaker 1: Whereas with Arizona, I think there is something with the
Speaker 1: Wildcats that I feel better about than I do about
Speaker 1: anything with Arizona State, and that's some sort of combination
Speaker 1: of Brandon Dawkins Khalil Tate. Now they have a twenty
Speaker 1: six year old quarterback, Donovan Tate, I believe his name
Speaker 1: is Okay, was a minor league baseball player drafted now
Speaker 1: is coming back to college and they've got a really
Speaker 1: fun running back duo that has been beat up constantly.
Speaker 1: But if they're healthy, they can cover up for some
Speaker 1: offensive deficiencies JJ Taylor and Nick Wilson. So there's sneaky
Speaker 1: danger for Arizona and secret garbage for Arizona State. So
Speaker 1: I'm going to go with Arizona, not confidently, but Arizona
Speaker 1: at the moment things aren't great.
Speaker 2: I tend to agree. Yeah, moving next question, Lee right,
Speaker 2: So with a very interesting question, yes, and we actually
Speaker 2: got a bunch of questions as it relates to college
Speaker 2: football quarterbacks. Lee says, is this year really the quote
Speaker 2: unquote year of the quarterback in college football? And can
Speaker 2: we expect a slight shift towards the pro norm pro
Speaker 2: style NFL quarterback in Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, Josh Rosen, etc. Etc.
Speaker 2: I got a couple questions about Sam Darnald, Kyle writes
Speaker 2: in is there too much hype for him? He was
Speaker 2: second best quarterback on his team a year ago, now
Speaker 2: he's second on a Heisman list. We also got a
Speaker 2: question from Blaine who wants to know a few under
Speaker 2: the radar quarterbacks other than the obvious ones, who could
Speaker 2: have a really strong impact in twenty seventeen. So a
Speaker 2: bunch of quarterback related questions. My comment on the Year
Speaker 2: of the quarterback, the Year of the pro style quarterback.
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's going to be any great
Speaker 2: movement of foot in college football towards any pro style systems.
Speaker 2: My hunches. No. I just think we're kind of entering
Speaker 2: a chapter where the better quarterbacks in college football happen
Speaker 2: to be pro style. Does that seem fair to you
Speaker 2: to say?
Speaker 1: I think that's right. And the term pro style is
Speaker 1: such a loose catch all for things that aren't super
Speaker 1: defined in college Because USC will run the zone read
Speaker 1: with Sam Darnold, they run RPO stuff with Sam Darnold,
Speaker 1: same for Josh Rosen and UCLA. Trace McSorley runs a
Speaker 1: ton of RPO and spread concepts at Penn State, even
Speaker 1: though he is super productive in getting Heisman Trophy attention
Speaker 1: at this point. So it's hard to sort of write
Speaker 1: unless you're looking at maybe Stanford, and even they run shotguns,
Speaker 1: spread option running stuff with certain quarterbacks. Recently, Kevin Hogan
Speaker 1: ran a bunch of that, Andrew Luck ran some of that.
Speaker 1: Even So style isn't pro style anymore, right exactly, And
Speaker 1: as we see more and more quarterbacks and offenses in
Speaker 1: the NFL sort of introduce all sorts of different concepts
Speaker 1: to their repertoires. I think it's hard to define anything
Speaker 1: as pro style and spread. That said, under the radar
Speaker 1: quarterbacks at this point, I think Josh Allen is going
Speaker 1: to continue to get a ton of attention for Wyoming.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and they play Oregon and somebody else of
Speaker 1: significance early on in the season. I want to say, God,
Speaker 1: it's not Wisconsin. I think it's one of the big
Speaker 1: ten teams I was looking up. I think I think, oh,
Speaker 1: they play Iowa early on, so he'll have an opportunity
Speaker 1: early on to make some sort of statement in either direction.
Speaker 1: I think Will Greer is an interesting name.
Speaker 2: I have Will Greer down on mine as well. I
Speaker 2: also have Eric dungeye okay, a little slight maybe yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's so much under the radar,
Speaker 2: but he does play for Syracuse and it will be
Speaker 2: year two of the Dino Babers offense, which we know
Speaker 2: is pretty potent. So he's a name that you can
Speaker 2: get used to hearing more of and probably won't be
Speaker 2: on that headline, but he's going to bring up some
Speaker 2: sick numbers.
Speaker 1: Both quarterbacks in the state of Washington put up and
Speaker 1: have put up ridiculous numbers. You know, Jake Browning didn't
Speaker 1: end the season super well with the games against Colorado,
Speaker 1: USC and of course Alabama. Luke Fox has been there
Speaker 1: forever and I think we'll receive attention because he is
Speaker 1: really he stands in and he's a warrior. I know
Speaker 1: he plays in the raid, but he has a nice
Speaker 1: arm and he will just he will deserve attention throughout
Speaker 1: this season. Jake Browning is not under the radar, but
Speaker 1: he is a name that perhaps isn't garnering NFL attention
Speaker 1: in the way that Sam Arnold and Josh Rosen halfmen.
Speaker 1: But he throws a hell of a ball. Also kind
Speaker 1: of small though outside of that. Curious about Shane Michelle
Speaker 1: in an offense that was very productive these past couple
Speaker 1: of years.
Speaker 2: Speaking of slight, oh, I.
Speaker 1: Got one more name. I have one more name that
Speaker 1: could find himself into a very productive We know about
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. He's not under the radar. He's been a
Speaker 1: playoff quarterback, Mason Rudolph. Same state has Junkyard Jim Waite.
Speaker 2: He is he under the radar.
Speaker 1: Probably he's under the radar because he plays in a
Speaker 1: state with Baker Mayfield, who is I think received the
Speaker 1: lion's share of the attention in that area.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know if subscribe to that.
Speaker 1: I would say Mason Rudolph just because Oklahoma State has
Speaker 1: not been in big national conversations as much as perhaps
Speaker 1: they should have, because probably because of the defense.
Speaker 2: All Right, agree to disagree on that one. I want
Speaker 2: to go to Set's Arnold though, Kyle Kyle wrote in
Speaker 2: and this was a question about him being the second
Speaker 2: best quarterback on his team last year. Now he's like
Speaker 2: second on the Heisman preseason Heisman list. Has the hype
Speaker 2: gone too far? I don't think so at all. I
Speaker 2: think he's really good. If if I'm an NFL fan
Speaker 2: and my team has an opportunity to get him, I
Speaker 2: want Sam Darnald. I'm very excited to see what he
Speaker 2: can do this year.
Speaker 1: No, I'm with you. And the part of the comment
Speaker 1: early on second best quarterback on his team, I don't
Speaker 1: think it's totally accurate. I imagine Max Brown had been
Speaker 1: in the program for a while, and the first game
Speaker 1: was against Alabama and it was in Jerry World, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So I just at a certain point, I think the
Speaker 1: USC coaches said it might hurt Sam Donald long term,
Speaker 1: to just throw him against the Wolves against Alabama as
Speaker 1: his first start in an NFL stadium. We're not expecting
Speaker 1: all that much from this year, so why don't we
Speaker 1: ease in and see where we are in a few games.
Speaker 1: Because I think in fall camp reports were coming out
Speaker 1: that Sam Donald was more talented than Max Brown, but
Speaker 1: he was a red shirt freshman and didn't have the
Speaker 1: experience in the program, so they just they went with
Speaker 1: the experience early on. Not unlike what happened with I
Speaker 1: want to say it was Cole Stroud and Deshaun Watson, yeah,
Speaker 1: right right against Georgia. I imagine Clemson coaches in practice said, yes,
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is clearly more special than Cole Strout, but
Speaker 1: that's okay. We'll see what happens against Georgia and we'll
Speaker 1: work him in at an appropriate pace. I think that
Speaker 1: was more of the thinking than he was the clear
Speaker 1: second best.
Speaker 2: All right, we've got one, two, three, four, or five, six,
Speaker 2: six or seven questions.
Speaker 1: We can do as many as these as you want, Ty,
Speaker 1: I want to rifle through the college football ones if
Speaker 1: we could please very quickly, Matt, which two Power five
Speaker 1: teams in the same conference or rivals would be best
Speaker 1: and worst pairing for a love This question couple's marriage.
Speaker 1: So okay, you're about to get married and what three weeks? Yes,
Speaker 1: coming up on us here less than three weeks? Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you have any any thoughts on this question? So,
Speaker 1: I think if you're talking about fan bases that you know,
Speaker 1: sort of oil and water, whatever, you have to stay
Speaker 1: away from, perhaps schools with families mixing in only there's
Speaker 1: one game in town in that state, in that area,
Speaker 1: so like Michigan, Michigan State, a lot of people within
Speaker 1: the same family are attending both of those schools. That
Speaker 1: becomes troublesome. South Carolina, Clemson, Ole, miss Mississippi State, Oregon,
Speaker 1: Oregon State. I think people look at the Michigan Ohio
Speaker 1: state rivalry or Oregon Washington as super fierce and above all,
Speaker 1: but I don't think there's as much familial mixing. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I think that's I think the same state thing
Speaker 1: where there's not not a lot else going on, that's
Speaker 1: the worst. I think for the best. Maybe common enemies,
Speaker 1: maybe like an Auburn Tennessee they both hate Bama, Michigan State,
Speaker 1: Ohio State the enemy of Michigan is exactly Oklahoma, Texas
Speaker 1: Tech that kind of thing to say, I would stay
Speaker 1: away from rivals or any kind of intra.
Speaker 2: SEC type stuff because the SEC always reached for the SEC, right,
Speaker 2: you know? So maybe that's the answer for the best,
Speaker 2: All right, Mike, Which new coach will see the most
Speaker 2: success in their first year with their new team? Which
Speaker 2: will see the least amount of success? Is Tom Herman
Speaker 2: too obvious an answer at Texas for most?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean because any success at all, any four oh progress,
Speaker 2: I think is going to be viewed very positively. Well,
Speaker 2: Charlie Strong at us F could have a hell of
Speaker 2: a year, right, Quintin Flowers, sure with how much they
Speaker 2: return there new coach Wise, I like Texas just because
Speaker 2: I think Charlie Strong recruited well enough and there are
Speaker 2: enough interesting pieces there. PJ. Fleck is going to move
Speaker 2: the needle, and I think that will be view to success.
Speaker 2: I guess it depends on how you define that in
Speaker 2: terms of actually driving interest to a program. PJ. Fleck
Speaker 2: will be successful in that regard.
Speaker 1: Shore Matt Rule might have a really long year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt Rule, I was going to say, is probably
Speaker 2: the obvious answer for a least.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Jeff Brohm Matt rule for just looking
Speaker 1: at Power five schools. Yeah, I don't think it's going
Speaker 1: to be great there.
Speaker 2: All right, Joe wants to know, can you give me
Speaker 2: the best case, worst case scenario for the Maryland Terrapins
Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen. I'm sure Joe is aware of this,
Speaker 2: but Maryland is replacing pretty much everybody. They need help
Speaker 2: across the board, a new quarterback situation, So I think
Speaker 2: I think the best case scenario is twofold. First off,
Speaker 2: if you can get to a bowl game, I think
Speaker 2: that's an accomplishment. Yeah, that's an accomplishment because the Big
Speaker 2: ten East is going to be pretty tough again. Got
Speaker 2: to one last year, Yeah, got to one last year.
Speaker 2: If you can do it again this year, I think
Speaker 2: that's good. I think what you really need to see
Speaker 2: is development from a player's standpoint, some guys that you
Speaker 2: can hang your hat on for twenty eighteen. Not to
Speaker 2: give two Morbid an outlook here, but I think Dj
Speaker 2: Dirkin is doing a really good job. He certainly brought
Speaker 2: in plenty of coaching talent to help mold that program.
Speaker 1: Man, it's tough to find five wins on here. It's real,
Speaker 1: it's real, tough. They have tousand, UCF is improving. They
Speaker 1: go two Minnesota to Ohio State, two Wisconsin, two Michigan States. Luckily,
Speaker 1: they are a team that will get Rutgers every year.
Speaker 1: They have Indiana, changing Indiana a little bit. They have
Speaker 1: Penn State to finish out the year. Aye, Man, I
Speaker 1: don't see five wins here. Yeah, that's ROF, Texas and UCF.
Speaker 2: And the non con is just I don't think a
Speaker 2: ball is probable because of all they have to replace. Right,
Speaker 2: But again, if you can hang they've been recruiting well,
Speaker 2: right exactly, If you can hang your hat on some
Speaker 2: new AMMO coming in on the recruiting side, if you
Speaker 2: can see a few names on defense that develop and
Speaker 2: can give you reason for excitement as you move forward,
Speaker 2: I think that. I think that right now is what
Speaker 2: you have to hang your hat on.
Speaker 1: So if we did the drive for six for Illinois,
Speaker 1: I want the path to danger five, from path to
Speaker 1: danger five like they've won it, very dangerous. They're a
Speaker 1: dangerous five win team like any given week they could
Speaker 1: be weird. That's what they need to aspire to this year. Probably,
Speaker 1: let's go to John. He says, pretend you're six five
Speaker 1: two twenty. You've got poster boy good looks, don't we all?
Speaker 1: You're also the number one quarterback in the twenty eighteen class.
Speaker 1: Rumor has it that some NFL teams are already salvating
Speaker 1: over you. Hell yeah, which program spelled in the British
Speaker 1: way with the two m's and.
Speaker 2: The e at the end? Are you committing to Dan?
Speaker 2: We've had this question. Yeah, not in a while, but
Speaker 2: several times in the past. Hmm.
Speaker 1: I've always answered Georgia. I know you have.
Speaker 2: George has been my go to answer here. But I
Speaker 2: think think if you're six five, number one quarterback, you
Speaker 2: are entering college under the assumption that you're going to
Speaker 2: go onto the NFL, I might have to amend that
Speaker 2: answer and go Mark Richt at Miami, Okay, because we
Speaker 2: know we can develop quarterbacks. I think that's what you're
Speaker 2: going for. If you've got the poster boy good looks,
Speaker 2: maybe maybe you're looking for a place where you can
Speaker 2: be big man on campus, and you know, Miami is
Speaker 2: an interesting place for that kind of mentality as well.
Speaker 2: So let's change the answer. Let's go Miami.
Speaker 1: I'm taking Stanford, and I'm not thinking twice. You're in California,
Speaker 1: You're gonna have really good offensive line in front of you.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna have a ton of top NFL type
Speaker 1: talent at on the defensive line that you're seeing, defensive
Speaker 1: back that you're seeing, you'll have a good running game.
Speaker 1: Worst case scenario, you're at Stanford, you blow out your knee,
Speaker 1: You're getting a Stanford education.
Speaker 2: Diggity dog rights. It hit me, why are there such
Speaker 2: few PAC twelve versus SEC, more versus ACC non conference
Speaker 2: bowl matchups? And what can be done to change this? Dan?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would assume they're not a ton of these
Speaker 1: matchups because where are you gonna have them? You want
Speaker 1: PAC twelve and SEC fans to travel, and West Coast
Speaker 1: is far away, ty, You know this only having been
Speaker 1: to the West Coast two or three times, right, that's correct. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a far away place. And I understand the attraction
Speaker 1: of going to like Pasadena or San Diego. But still
Speaker 1: that's if you're coming from Athens, if you're coming from Knoxville,
Speaker 1: if you're coming from Columbia, that's a ways and what's
Speaker 1: in between. I don't know if it's an attractive New
Speaker 1: Year's Ish destination. If you're trying to go exactly in between.
Speaker 1: You're not going to hold a bowl game in Little Rock.
Speaker 1: You're not going to hold a bowl game in Houston
Speaker 1: in that that's going to attract people from Seattle. So
Speaker 1: I think it's geography. I honestly do. And there probably
Speaker 1: isn't all that much more to it that. That's just
Speaker 1: unless you're playing in the Rose Bowl. Why would And
Speaker 1: especially sac and Acc country is pretty warm, even in
Speaker 1: the winter, So coming out west to play a bowl
Speaker 1: game in San Francisco or Portland or wherever, it's not
Speaker 1: that attractive.
Speaker 2: Why all right? You're comfortable This next gentleman who rides in.
Speaker 2: Do you think this is his real name?
Speaker 1: I don't think it is.
Speaker 2: He goes by the name Owl Owl. What is a
Speaker 2: venue you have not yet visited that you would like
Speaker 2: to see a game in? He does not specify college
Speaker 2: football if it's non college football, and the answer for
Speaker 2: me is Wimbledon. Yeah. I was going to say something
Speaker 2: across the pond, but if we are assuming college football,
Speaker 2: I'd love to see Neiland Stadium. Yeah, visit the Vaal Navy.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I'd be crazy about hearing Rocky Top
Speaker 2: every every other minute, but Neiland Stadium would be pretty
Speaker 2: damn cool. I've not been yet.
Speaker 1: You know where it might be. It might be Norman,
Speaker 1: it might be at it might be going to see
Speaker 1: an Oklahoma game, just because it's a huge, huge program
Speaker 1: and I haven't been there.
Speaker 2: Either Norman or Fordham obviously or for obviously.
Speaker 1: That always goes without saying.
Speaker 2: All right, and finally before we drastically shift gears here, yes, Curtis,
Speaker 2: longtime listener. Curtis writes, and he says, you've gone the
Speaker 2: indie and semi indie route in covering the National Championship
Speaker 2: on site. Do you have any tips or pitfalls to
Speaker 2: avoid if one is thinking of heading down in twenty
Speaker 2: eighteen to Atlanta.
Speaker 1: I would see to me, I would avoid everything that
Speaker 1: has to do with the game until the game, right.
Speaker 1: I would avoid the concerts and the open media days
Speaker 1: or you can pay to go to media days, whatever.
Speaker 1: I would avoid all of the lead up stuff because
Speaker 1: it's just sort of corporate and sale. Not that exciting
Speaker 1: to me, because that's you can do that in any city.
Speaker 1: What I would do, specifically, and this is specific to Atlanta,
Speaker 1: is personally, I'm super into food, So I would try
Speaker 1: to go to as many different neighborhoods as possible and
Speaker 1: eat as well as I possibly could locally, or just
Speaker 1: like take in a city, see what's awesome in the city,
Speaker 1: if it's an aquarium, if it's like running the steps
Speaker 1: to the Rocky Statue. I use food as my sort
Speaker 1: of guide. But figure out what excites you about life.
Speaker 1: If you like running in parks, find out where the
Speaker 1: best running trail is in Atlanta. Do that.
Speaker 2: Find some good Facebook groups. Find some Facebook groups. Well
Speaker 2: I'm not talking like furries or anything. I'm saying, find
Speaker 2: people who are going to the game, fans of whatever
Speaker 2: team are playing in said game. Go on the reddit
Speaker 2: and subreddit for college football. There are always a lot
Speaker 2: of great fans on there, and see what other like
Speaker 2: minded fans are up to, cause you'll find that there
Speaker 2: are a lot of college football fans who just go
Speaker 2: to these types of things and sure may not have
Speaker 2: a rooting interest. So I would start there.
Speaker 1: All right, fair enough, I just go eat, Go eat
Speaker 1: at Heirloom Barbecue. It's wonderful. It's great barbecue in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: with like a Korean touch.
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Speaker 1: go the other end. Awkward transition, boom, where are we going?
Speaker 2: Talk to me?
Speaker 1: So we asked for bathroom medico questions because you have
Speaker 1: lots of strong thoughts. I do, yeah, and I found
Speaker 1: out I have strong thoughts, so we solicited these questions.
Speaker 1: We got these questions. First off, a couple of people
Speaker 1: mentioned this to us. Did you see Tom Herman's Guide
Speaker 1: to Peing?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I saw that, and hydration it's very weird. Do you yourself, ty,
Speaker 1: because there are no secrets between us, do you take
Speaker 1: hydration and peeing seriously?
Speaker 2: Do I take it as a basic human function? Yes?
Speaker 2: Of course, who doesn't a.
Speaker 1: Lot of Well, obviously, if you are so, we should explain.
Speaker 1: Tom Herman, head coach at Texas, has put up these
Speaker 1: laminated signs above. I would assume urinals and toilets in
Speaker 1: the Texas facility.
Speaker 2: Very well, very very weird behavior.
Speaker 1: I dig this. I think it's wonderful and it's basically
Speaker 1: different shades of I guess clear to orange, burnt orange.
Speaker 1: I suppose of championship level hydration levels next to shades
Speaker 1: that are like white and very faintly yellow selfish teammate
Speaker 1: deeply yellow, and then more gold and light orange is
Speaker 1: associated with and I quote, blatant disregard for your teammates.
Speaker 1: You are headed to area fifty one.
Speaker 2: Okay. See, here's the thing about bathrooms in general. And
Speaker 2: I don't care if you're in a public facility. I
Speaker 2: don't care if you're at a work facility. What I've
Speaker 2: found is that people in bathrooms you learn a lot
Speaker 2: about them. Presumably you're not in the stall with them,
Speaker 2: but just in general, watching people just go about their business,
Speaker 2: you find out which people were raised by wolves in
Speaker 2: which were not right. So this to me is just
Speaker 2: you see weird stuff going on in there in the
Speaker 2: hydration chart, while kind of funny, is just weird to me,
Speaker 2: excessively weird to me.
Speaker 1: If you give me an opportunity to take pride in
Speaker 1: my hydration and color code, it, I'm all about it.
Speaker 1: I love it. Strong disagree.
Speaker 2: We got several different buckets of questions here, Okay.
Speaker 1: We did, and again should we stress etiquette not procedure? Right.
Speaker 2: The first big general category we got was summed up
Speaker 2: I thought pretty well by Michael who wanted to know
Speaker 2: is it okay for someone to see someone using the
Speaker 2: stall and to talk to them. This whole topic around
Speaker 2: bathroom conversations.
Speaker 1: Or speaking in general, like on the phone, perhaps dialing
Speaker 1: into a conference call while you're sitting on the john.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so bathroom etiquette as it relates to conversation. Do
Speaker 2: you have strong thoughts on this topic?
Speaker 1: Dan Sync totally fair game as you're washing hands, I
Speaker 1: think yeah, if you are friends with the person, and
Speaker 1: like you walk into the bathroom sort of together incidentally,
Speaker 1: and you head towards the urinal friend heads towards the stall,
Speaker 1: and you want to say something like hey, good luckome there,
Speaker 1: I think that's fine. But once the door is closed,
Speaker 1: that's their office. That is their business, and you let
Speaker 1: them to it. But if you've got a great goof
Speaker 1: that's where they accept is TI to me? I would say,
Speaker 1: no conversation though, no, like, hey, should I expect the
Speaker 1: file by three or none of that.
Speaker 2: I've already been in this situation where just as kind
Speaker 2: of a random passerby washing my hands going for the
Speaker 2: retuck of the shirt, I've witnessed two gentlemen. Not actually witness,
Speaker 2: but heard two gentlemen in adjacent stalls having a full
Speaker 2: on business discussion. That's so odd it struck me as
Speaker 2: odd too. It's the holiest of places, no pun intent.
Speaker 2: I've also been in the stall listening to a business
Speaker 2: pep talk occur on the outside of the wall.
Speaker 1: I'm not with it.
Speaker 2: In general, pleasant trees can be exchanged, but the full
Speaker 2: on conversation the cell phone.
Speaker 1: Come.
Speaker 2: If you hear a cell phone conversation going on in there,
Speaker 2: just flush, make as much noise as you can. We've
Speaker 2: conducted interviews here with Houston Nut where presumably he was
Speaker 2: in the bathroom may have been his own private bathroom,
Speaker 2: may have been his own private bathroom, in which case okay, fine.
Speaker 2: But if in fact you hear an associate in the
Speaker 2: restroom talking on the cell phone, I don't care how
Speaker 2: important the call is. Initiate the flesh. Let him know
Speaker 2: whose boss, right, I would also ask, and then perhaps
Speaker 2: we can move on to a related subject. Have you
Speaker 2: ever been in a situation where someone's walked into a bathroom,
Speaker 2: saw you, maybe for the first time in a while,
Speaker 2: and offered offered their hand to shake your hand.
Speaker 1: No I've never gotten like, hey, what's up, dude, long time,
Speaker 1: never for like a hand even a fist bump.
Speaker 2: Now see, I've already been walking out of the bathroom
Speaker 2: and I've seen someone walking in that I hadn't seen
Speaker 2: in a while.
Speaker 1: M hm.
Speaker 2: And curiously enough that gentleman put his hand out, Hey,
Speaker 2: how are you? I'm fine. I'm curious how you're gonna
Speaker 2: be after I shake your hand here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would just sort of give you like the
Speaker 1: sort of like hand like show the hands, like, hey, sorry,
Speaker 1: just wash my hands.
Speaker 2: Do you go with the the gear shift and try
Speaker 2: and go fist hound now I'll pull.
Speaker 1: My hands back. I was like, it just was in
Speaker 1: the bathroom.
Speaker 2: Very odd circumstances. But I'm generally no on talking, no
Speaker 2: on the on the cellular conversation. I'm okay with texting
Speaker 2: if you can do it discreet.
Speaker 1: Will you play a game on your phone?
Speaker 2: I have played a game on the phone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Yeah, I think that's that's fine for bathroom time.
Speaker 1: And when I say goof. By the way, our pal
Speaker 1: will here at espianation claims, and I really hope it's true,
Speaker 1: because it's so wonderful that if he is in the
Speaker 1: bathroom and he's using the urinal and somebody else is
Speaker 1: in the stall and they have a louder experience in
Speaker 1: the stall. Will will while he's right next to the
Speaker 1: stall peeing at the urinal, go, I'll have what he's having.
Speaker 1: And that's wonderful. That's wonderful because it makes the person
Speaker 1: so uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is what is our next sort of bucket item?
Speaker 1: This one I thought was borderline brilliant and not the
Speaker 1: easiest to answer. This comes from a tiger tiger, I
Speaker 1: don't know how that's what his name is on name
Speaker 1: on Twitter. How inappropriate would it be to bring your
Speaker 1: own toilet paper?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 1: The in laws have thick toilet paper so multiple ply
Speaker 1: I'm guessing what he means by that. But weak toilets Okay,
Speaker 1: wife and I average about one and a half clogs
Speaker 1: per visits.
Speaker 2: Wow, that might be grounds for a new house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean some places the plumbing just is not great,
Speaker 1: or the toilets are low flow, whatever it is. Bring
Speaker 1: your own TP is definitely an option if they're like
Speaker 1: on triple ply and you could bring one and a
Speaker 1: half ply one. You know, if you can take one plly,
Speaker 1: I don't recommend it.
Speaker 2: But here's here's the thing, though, one and a half
Speaker 2: average indicates there have been somewhere there, maybe five.
Speaker 1: In a multi class. Yeah, sure.
Speaker 2: So the question is would bringing your own toilet paper
Speaker 2: have any effect on that at all? It might bring
Speaker 2: that number down, but it still leaves you in a
Speaker 2: circumstance where you're you're clogging things up. The answer here
Speaker 2: might be to bring your own plunger.
Speaker 1: That's a not a particularly easy thing to travel with.
Speaker 2: I mean, Amazon has to have a retractable version somewhere
Speaker 2: for like, you know, nine ninety nine on Prime.
Speaker 1: Okay, So short of bring your own plunger or simply
Speaker 1: buying in laws a really top notch elite plunger, right,
Speaker 1: you could be more efficient with the toilet paper, which
Speaker 1: is not a great ask. Ty, No, I'm gonna be honest,
Speaker 1: it's not a great ask.
Speaker 2: Rationing toilet paper is difficult.
Speaker 1: It's it's tough. You could start figuring out the timing
Speaker 1: of your daily schedule. Say you go out for breakfast
Speaker 1: all the time. Maybe you have an early coffee knowing
Speaker 1: you will be at a different facility at around ten Ah.
Speaker 2: Okay, right, right, so you're you're talking a little co
Speaker 2: location situation here.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I'm talking about. It's just sort of
Speaker 1: timing some sort of caffeine intake or you know, a
Speaker 1: catalyst that if you can time it right, that you
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about the plumbing there. If you
Speaker 1: know you're going to a park, if I know, park's
Speaker 1: not the greatest place, but if you're going somewhere you
Speaker 1: want a bookstore, you always go into town at this hour,
Speaker 1: you always do that whatever, and just sort of adjusting
Speaker 1: your timing if that's on the table. I would also say,
Speaker 1: eat less roughage less fiber. Just offer less to the cheese, yeah,
Speaker 1: or eat a bunch of nuts that'll stop you up.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I'd never advocate people slowing down. I'm a job creator, ty,
Speaker 1: I keep that factory moving, and so I will never
Speaker 1: advocate people slowing down the matap. So that's what I
Speaker 1: would say at this point. But I don't think there's
Speaker 1: anything wrong with bringing your own TP.
Speaker 2: That's your movantic moment.
Speaker 1: If you are downstairs and you have to go kind
Speaker 1: of badly and your portable TP is upstairs, it's easy
Speaker 1: to forget. You have your eyes on the prize, it's
Speaker 1: easy to forget. You write your own customizable TP situations.
Speaker 2: If you brought your own, would you tell the in laws?
Speaker 2: I feel like that's an odd conversation to have.
Speaker 1: No, But here is a situation I've been in my
Speaker 1: one of my younger brothers former fiance's family.
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's very difficult to follow, but I think
Speaker 2: so his.
Speaker 1: Would be in laws and it didn't work out. Have
Speaker 1: a very old home, and it's a nice home, but
Speaker 1: it's very old and the plumbing is such that I
Speaker 1: think the pipes are particularly thin. So they tell people
Speaker 1: when they are in the house or about to use
Speaker 1: the bathroom or staying with them, like, hey, if you
Speaker 1: have to go to the bathroom, don't use a lot.
Speaker 1: And they have to have that conversation with everybody. So
Speaker 1: I've been there. Wow, it's not great. Okay, So that's
Speaker 1: that's the best I can do.
Speaker 2: Your own TP.
Speaker 1: How long, brother Mazonne difference to the wire? How long
Speaker 1: would you need to be dating somebody before pooping in
Speaker 1: his or her bathroom knowing they would smell it? Okay?
Speaker 2: Okay, ty.
Speaker 1: Wow, I don't think there's any one right answer.
Speaker 2: No, No, but I would It obviously depends on the
Speaker 2: level of urgency.
Speaker 1: You have to have some sort of idea, and I
Speaker 1: think everybody in some sense does have some sort of
Speaker 1: idea of how potent, the ceiling of the potency, what's
Speaker 1: common and would I would judge in that way.
Speaker 2: This is where you need to develop a very good
Speaker 2: courtesy flush. Yes, that's what the courtesy flush was invented for.
Speaker 1: I would also do some scouting of is there some
Speaker 1: sort of freshener, Is there a fabrize situation already in
Speaker 1: these or her bathroom matches?
Speaker 2: Something? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, be ready to go with something like that
Speaker 1: very quickly.
Speaker 2: We did get one another one here from al He
Speaker 2: says three urinals, two men. No one should be at
Speaker 2: the middle. Correct, Yeah, that's correct. That's a no brainer.
Speaker 1: Unless there's something particularly heinous in one of the side urinals.
Speaker 1: But yes, I think you're fine.
Speaker 2: What like a human what wouldn't Yes, I don't see
Speaker 2: any explanation for going in that middle one. Well, sometimes
Speaker 2: urinals can be stopped up and kind of gross. I
Speaker 2: think you go stall, I think that's right, all right,
Speaker 2: brushing your teeth in the bathroom at work, okay? Or gross?
Speaker 1: That comes to us from old pal Quinn. I can't
Speaker 1: do it, Dan, My brother does this here at this
Speaker 1: office regularly. Yes, every day after lunch. No, yeah, one
Speaker 1: hundred percent. Tro Your brother is a little weird. You
Speaker 1: said he's all about dental hygiene. Oh yeah, everybody here
Speaker 1: is a little bit weird.
Speaker 2: True. I mean, if you've got a dentist appointment, then yeah,
Speaker 2: I get that. If you've got something stuck in your teeth,
Speaker 2: if it's an emergency, I understand the need to keep
Speaker 2: the keep the portable toothbrush handy in case you got
Speaker 2: a big meeting or ate something with a lot of onions.
Speaker 2: I get that, I do. I've never done it. It
Speaker 2: sort of grosses me out a little bit.
Speaker 1: Why it just does?
Speaker 2: It just does. If it's my own bathroom at home,
Speaker 2: it's different. I can control the cleanliness of it, right,
Speaker 2: But in a public facility where I'm not sure. Now,
Speaker 2: it's just not for me.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think it's fine. I think it's just people
Speaker 1: taking their dental hygiene seriously. And I feel more ashamed
Speaker 1: that I'm not as serious about my teeth than they are.
Speaker 2: Let's go two or three more very quickly.
Speaker 1: Okay, how about Brian. Brian, Okay, my wife and I
Speaker 1: moved into our condo about a year and a half ago. Unknowingly,
Speaker 1: when setting up the living room, I created a situation
Speaker 1: with a slightly with a slight a jar of our
Speaker 1: bathroom door. I have a perfect line of sight to
Speaker 1: the TV.
Speaker 2: Nice. This is a thinking man right here, Brian.
Speaker 1: My question is when is it appropriate to use the
Speaker 1: door as slightly ajar to see the TV from my toilet?
Speaker 1: I would say never, ever, ever.
Speaker 2: Really, So, he's basically saying that he has inadvertently created
Speaker 2: a situation where if he leaves the door slightly a jar,
Speaker 2: he can see his TV. Plenty of situations arise during
Speaker 2: college football season due to the dawn of the DVR.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and every game streaming on your iPad and your phone.
Speaker 2: Right, you can probably bypass the need for this in
Speaker 2: a way that you couldn't five to ten years ago. Right,
Speaker 2: But still, in a live sporting event type situation, I
Speaker 2: can see I can see pulling it off for that.
Speaker 1: That's how would say, since outfit your phone or tablet
Speaker 1: with some sort of streaming app if it's live sports.
Speaker 1: If not, there's enough to entertain you. People aren't gonna
Speaker 1: be in there for twenty five minutes if they rushing
Speaker 1: to get back to something. What if his wife's not home,
Speaker 1: You're still polluting everything time. Yeah, do whatever you want yeh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now you got the waves coming.
Speaker 2: All right. We got a bunch of questions here as
Speaker 2: it relates to troughs in the men's bathroom. Yeah, this
Speaker 2: seems to be a thing. Somebody made this decision. Yeah,
Speaker 2: around the time they invented the cotton gin that ap
Speaker 2: trough would be a good idea in men's facilities. Dan
Speaker 2: a lot of questions around what is the strategy for
Speaker 2: using the trough? I try to avoid it at all costs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say, don't drink any liquids for two
Speaker 1: hours and during any sort of supporting event.
Speaker 2: The ultimate test of this is it just comes at
Speaker 2: the top of my mind because I went to Penn State.
Speaker 2: But up in State College, the saloon, which is a
Speaker 2: popular location, used to have a trough situation. I don't
Speaker 2: know if they still do, right, used to have a
Speaker 2: trough situation, And I could remember the apprehension amongst my
Speaker 2: friends and I knowing that we were there to consume
Speaker 2: a reasonable amount of liquid and that the trough situation
Speaker 2: is what awaited. So in a lot of situations we
Speaker 2: would use saloon as the initial location. Go there early,
Speaker 2: hit there for happy hour, and then you know, either
Speaker 2: hit your apartment afterwards or go somewhere else to get
Speaker 2: a little bit more privacy.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: I'm not a fan of the trough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the worst ty. When is it appropriate, if ever,
Speaker 1: to use the handicap stall, Oh, if you are yourself
Speaker 1: not differently able.
Speaker 2: I'm not a fan of this, Dan, I'm not a
Speaker 2: fan of it. I feel I feel like I am
Speaker 2: breaking my moral compass by by utilizing it.
Speaker 1: So generally speaking, the handicap stall the higher throne I believe, yep,
Speaker 1: and more spacious to accommodate, like a wheelchair or something. Right,
Speaker 1: So I would say, if we're talking office or a
Speaker 1: business of you know, you're out of Barnes and Noble
Speaker 1: or something at an office or a busy business during
Speaker 1: peak hours or during office hours, avoid unless I would
Speaker 1: say there is a caveat unless you are almost positive
Speaker 1: nobody in your office, if you have a smaller office
Speaker 1: needs to use it because of a physical ailments or
Speaker 1: is around that day or something like that. And if
Speaker 1: you've got some sort of you know how Phil Jackson
Speaker 1: sat on that special chair because he had like a
Speaker 1: million different back and whatever hip issues. If you've got
Speaker 1: I don't know if it makes you handicapped, it probably doesn't.
Speaker 1: But if you've got like a terrible, terrible back and
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, that's more comfortable for you, I think
Speaker 1: I'm morally okay with it. If you were at the
Speaker 1: office at an off hour, if you have a late
Speaker 1: meeting and you're one of three people still at the
Speaker 1: office at eight forty four pm, go ahead and use it, Okay?
Speaker 1: Would you never use it?
Speaker 2: No? I don't use it.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think that would be a reason for
Speaker 1: me too. Sometimes when if I'm at the airport at
Speaker 1: like five am and I've got a bunch of luggage
Speaker 1: and it's just easier in the in that stall, I
Speaker 1: might go for it.
Speaker 2: I think for the most part, it's kind of an
Speaker 2: irrational fear. Sure it's not usually that heavily used, but
Speaker 2: just a mental thing. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Sure. The one here kind of along the same lines.
Speaker 1: We'll do this one and one more.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, someone asked for the etiquette and is there
Speaker 2: like a line length any situation in which using the
Speaker 2: opposite bathroom is acceptable, or what is the strategy for
Speaker 2: using the opposite bathroom? Right, so your guy along line girls'
Speaker 2: bathrooms open, you decide to make make the move, try
Speaker 2: and get in there and out. I think it's only
Speaker 2: acceptable if you have pre screened to see what the
Speaker 2: situation is there, like, if it's not heavily trafficked, then
Speaker 2: it's okay. And also if you can have someone's stand guard,
Speaker 2: that would be right. If you have a century at
Speaker 2: the gate, that would be ideal.
Speaker 1: I probably just wouldn't. Yeah, I probably just wouldn't, just
Speaker 1: to avoid any any sort of problematic situations that could
Speaker 1: arise over undertie toilet paper, Which direction do you skew?
Speaker 2: I'm not heavily in favor of one over the other.
Speaker 1: Oh okay. I used to be an under. I thought
Speaker 1: it was more aesthetically nice, but now I'm an over
Speaker 1: because I think I'm an over because I just why
Speaker 1: would I want something touching the walls? I don't need particles.
Speaker 1: I'm good, all right.
Speaker 2: So here's the deal. We've got one left, and I
Speaker 2: want to try and actually help someone with this show.
Speaker 2: We've got a lot of questions here. So my thought
Speaker 2: is that because we've been doing one of these per month,
Speaker 2: because it's a long off season, we should save these.
Speaker 2: We should share this dock out, and we should we
Speaker 2: should save these and use them moving forward, maybe sprinkle
Speaker 2: a few in here and there. But we got one
Speaker 2: from a gentleman who's going to be living in a
Speaker 2: house with eight guys. Yeah, all right, this is from Michael.
Speaker 2: He says next year, I'm living with eight other guys,
Speaker 2: so nine guys in total in a house with only
Speaker 2: two bathrooms. He says, at least there are four showers.
Speaker 2: Any general tips or advice.
Speaker 1: So if becoming an early riser is an option, I'd
Speaker 1: go with that, uh for the household itself. I would
Speaker 1: also start scouting out. If you are in college and
Speaker 1: you're gonna be on campus, figure out a super under
Speaker 1: traffic bathroom that's on campus somewhere. I think we all
Speaker 1: have figured out where that is.
Speaker 2: TI.
Speaker 1: Did you remember did you have a bathroom on Penn
Speaker 1: State's campus?
Speaker 2: I did, Yeah, I did.
Speaker 1: Where was it in the uh the Hetzel Union Building
Speaker 1: aka the Hub? Okay, mine was in the EMU also
Speaker 1: the UH the Union building. Sure, and it was on
Speaker 1: the floor where the radio station was, which you needed
Speaker 1: like a passcode to get into.
Speaker 2: The very's very smart dan So it was it.
Speaker 1: Smelled a little bit like cinnamon. It was wonderful.
Speaker 2: Do you have a secret Do you have a secret
Speaker 2: bathroom at your current job?
Speaker 1: I don't, but we have the the individual ones, so
Speaker 1: it's not as needed. Here's somebody else asked this question,
Speaker 1: and I feel like it's sort of adjacent to this topic.
Speaker 1: Will you can you be strategic? We use different floors
Speaker 1: if you were going to have a lengthier stay. So
Speaker 1: in our old building, we used to be in Midtown.
Speaker 1: Now we're downtown in New York and Manhattan. In our
Speaker 1: old building, we had the eighth, ninth, tenth, and fourteenth floor,
Speaker 1: and I worked on the ninth floor, and I would
Speaker 1: sometimes go to the eighth floor for lengthier stays whatever.
Speaker 1: But apparently the tenth floor was super popular among people
Speaker 1: because that floor was like ninety percent women at least,
Speaker 1: So the men's room was a ghost town. So people
Speaker 1: would go up there specifically to have some privacy. What
Speaker 1: I guess the people that went up there didn't realize
Speaker 1: was that the people working in the office there was
Speaker 1: glass doors and you go in whatever. All of the
Speaker 1: women that worked for those you know, the office that
Speaker 1: was on the tenth floor could see people getting off
Speaker 1: the elevator and coming onto the floor. They would come
Speaker 1: into the office so they wouldn't whatever, and they realized
Speaker 1: anybody that came up to the tenth floor that didn't
Speaker 1: walk into the office area was dropping a load. They
Speaker 1: were just like so we could just chart people's schedules
Speaker 1: in trying to be less obvious. Everybody was indeed alerting
Speaker 1: a lot of people that it was time.
Speaker 2: This has been a very productive discussion.
Speaker 1: Dan absolutely, Ty absolutely, I love that. Email us at soliverbal.
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Speaker 1: I'm still thinking about the dating thing, Ty, there's some
Speaker 1: people who won't do it at all.
Speaker 2: I know married really won't do it. Yeah, email us
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