WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Pugh Excited About O-Line 0:00:02.000 --> 0:00:05.440 Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. Oh ahead, 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:09.479 he got Jack. This is the big red rain boom 0:00:09.880 --> 0:00:14.080 presented by satan Ford in Gilbert Harry's Gonna Score Touchdown 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:17.200 Slam to the ground by Buddha Baker Like a torpedo. 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:22.799 He came flying into the backfield. The rage is brought 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:28.000 to you by satan Ford in Guilford. Are you Santanford 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:31.400 State Farm? Talk to an agent today at eight hundred 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:37.120 State Farm and buy Arizona Cardinals podcasts, Visit Acy Cardinals 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:45.920 dot Com, Slash podcasts, The Rods Rising Guard, Temperaturizing vision, flurring, 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:50.360 rage taking over. Here's Paul Calvci. I'm ready. I'm one 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:53.480 hundred percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready. And Ron 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:58.000 will flint. It doesn't get any better than that. Unleash 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:06.080 the far hashtag. Don't blink before you know it, Ron Wolfley, 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:10.880 They're all grown up. Cards Camp twenty twenty two seemingly 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:15.640 kicked off like yesterday and tomorrow. It's already a rap. 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:18.760 I mean three words. Every player in that locker room 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:21.759 looks forward to you did once upon a time. Cardinals 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:25.679 break Camp. Although we still have a couple of joint 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:28.160 practices to go next week. And by the way, did 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:31.520 you see did you hear what happened at joint practice 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.840 today between the Titans and the Buccaneers what was described 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:38.039 Ron Wolfley as a quote mini brawl at the end 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:42.760 of today's practice featuring a couple of heavyweights, Leonard Fournette 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:47.279 and Jeffrey Simmons exchanging punches, actually a root and a twoting, 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:49.680 wolping and a stopping out there and that joint practice 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:55.080 between the Bucks and the Titans. I did not hear that, Paul. 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:58.160 I did not, Okay, I took a little nap. I'm 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:00.920 not gonna lie to you. Paul down a little bit. 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:04.040 Maybe he had a little something something right there. You're 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:07.960 telling me there was a near brawl once again. Although 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:10.080 were blows exchanged, they were there, they were there, There 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:13.520 were hands thrown in the Titans Buccaneers at the various 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:15.840 Some described it as a full on melee. But the 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:18.480 beat writer who's got like thirty years experience, that nah, 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:22.440 wasn't a melee, but it got good. This is exactly 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:25.600 what happened last year. This is what happened between the 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:29.200 Tennessee Titans and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Last year they 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:32.560 had two practices and on the second day there was 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:37.480 brawl City. Well, apparently Jeffrey Simmons there stand out All 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:41.520 Pro defensive lineman, defensive end um. Apparently he was the instigator. 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:44.239 He had gotten into it earlier with a Tampa guard. 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:47.640 So I just have a h that possibly happened. Paul hugged. 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:50.280 That happened on the football field exactly. So so what 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:52.160 do you think, what are the odds? Let's go ahead, 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:54.400 I mean, somebody called bet MGM. We need a Pauli 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:57.519 prop here. What are the odds that, oh, I don't know, 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:00.560 Jeffrey Simmons might get into it with a Will Hernandez, 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:04.680 or Jeffrey Simmons might get into it with the guy 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:08.079 they're calling Big Mo, Markus Hayes, who will cover in 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:11.040 depth in this edition of The Big Red Rage, presented 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.280 by Santan Ford and Gilbert. By the way, it's featuring 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:16.360 Justin Pugh and we talk about this seventh round rookie 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.519 and mister nasty Marquis Hayes coming up here shortly on 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:22.600 the Big Red Rage. Just amazing, Polly, I cannot even 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:26.919 believe the way Marquis Hayes is starting to explode this 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:30.359 after Justin Pugh I had a conversation with him. I 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:34.400 cannot wait to talk about Marquis Hayes because of Justin 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:39.360 Pue and what Justin Pew was saying about Markuis Hayes well, 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:41.360 and I can't wait to hear what he told you 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.600 in your conversation. Like I said, we're gonna talk to 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:46.320 Justin Peue. I'll just say this. There were two other 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.720 members of the old line Ink was yesterday who pointed 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:52.200 to seventy eight and said, that's a real popular kid 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:55.280 in our room right now because they like the way 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:57.800 he's taking it to the D line. They like the 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:02.400 tone that he's setting. So that's a very very physical 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.880 PAULI in the first preseason game. All right, So we're 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:07.880 gonna get into that. We're gonna talk to Justin Pugh 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:11.360 about Oh, I don't know, Kyler Murray and his head coach. 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:14.480 There'll be some interesting comments on that front. Here is 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:17.320 the head coach though, talking about things that happened this week. 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:19.280 You couldn't help but notice, in fact, we saw it 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:22.599 again today. Kyler Murray Hollywood Brown out on the field 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:25.920 together on Twitter at Paul kelvc. We coined it the 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:29.320 one two punch. That's their new nickname. Kyler to Hollywood Brown, 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.239 he wears one, then Hollywood wears two, the one two punch, 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.840 And people let me know that Actually Cardinals Twitter had 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:39.080 coined that like in the off season, so apparently I was. Anyway, 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:42.640 here's Cliff Kingsbury talking about Kyler and Hollywood finally together 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:45.760 out on the practice field. Look good, Kyler looks sharp, 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.320 Hollywood look fast. So that's what we're looking for, and 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:52.520 we just gotta keep building that rapport. Did some ten 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.520 personnel and lined up all four of those whiteouts together 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:58.640 and look like we could have some fun with that. 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:01.360 You know, he's gonna fun with that ten personnel. You 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:03.280 know that, Ron wolf Lay, Yeah, you know what ten 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:06.240 personnel one back of course, no tight ends. That means 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:09.440 four wide receivers out there, Paully, did you know the 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:13.080 Arizona Cardinals. Of course, they lead the National Football League 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:15.840 year after years since Cliff Kingsbury has been their head 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:20.560 coach in four wide packages, ten personnel. Did you know that, Paully? 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:22.560 I knew they were near the top, really, so they're 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:24.920 ahead of the Rams and Sean McVay yes, no doubt 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.240 about it. As a matter of fact, Polly, it's a 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:30.599 situation where you've got the New York Jets. The New 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:34.000 York Jets are number two at eight percent use eight 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:38.240 percent use of ten personnel, where the Arizona Cardinals are 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:41.760 at thirteen percent. Paul, that's number one in the National 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:46.000 Football League, and the Buffalo Bills are number three. Largely 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:48.840 I would say, based on what they did in the 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:53.280 first half of last season their number seven, Paul. So 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:57.840 the Arizona Cardinals basically almost double the Buffalo Bills and 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:01.560 Josh Allen and how much ten percent they actually use 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:05.359 really interesting. I've got a little bit of a prediction 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:08.000 for you, Paul. I think that thirteen percent for the 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:13.279 Cardinals goes up to about all sixteen, seventeen percent somewhere 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:16.680 in there, especially effective week seven when it's d Hop 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:19.320 and AJ Green and Hollywood Brown and Rondale Moore. Is 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:22.600 that what you're saying, Yeah, especially Week seven, which means, 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:27.320 of course it'll increase exponentially. Well, what's interesting is Cam 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:29.480 Turner told us recently here in the Big Red Rage, 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.600 the quarterbacks coach and passing game coordinator, that the Cardinals 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:37.240 that the offense, quote majors and eleven personnel. Yes, and 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:40.320 so okay, but yes, you see plenty of four wide 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:42.840 receivers out there. Now. You're not going to see either 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:47.039 Kyler Murray or Hollywood Brown we expect on the game 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:50.479 field this preseason. That was according to the head coach. 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:53.279 Whereas a Josh Allen, you actually are going to see. 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:55.640 I mean, you saw Jalen Hurts. He saw a big 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:58.680 hit taken by Jalen Hurts. He saw Zach Wilson go down. 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:01.360 You speak into the Jets the back. You're not going 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:04.320 to see a preseason game with Kyler Marie and Hollywood Brown. 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:06.679 But the two of them were talking about their chemistry 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:08.840 because I know there's been some consternation WAYNMUK and I 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.440 get their chemistry down well, as we know. We saw 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:14.400 him out together in Cincinnati. I saw him together after 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:17.040 practice today today hanging out. These guys are the best 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:20.480 of friends, legit. They have the chemistry going back to Oklahoma, 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:22.960 and they were both asked about that this week. Starting 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:25.720 with Hollywood, me and him be apart for months. We 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:28.360 get together in summer good against some DBS and were 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.360 clicking like never before. I mean, I know him he 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:33.440 knows me, he knows what I like, I know what 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:35.600 he likes. So it's just something that you know, we 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:37.680 kind of just got what we did was in the past, 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:40.440 but like this is just natural connection. That first practice, 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:42.880 just being out there, seeing him out there was kind 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:45.080 of weird. But you know, I think everybody you see 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:46.520 him make a couple of plays, I'm like, oh, yo, 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:49.240 he's not just this fast guy or whatever you know, 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:51.800 people think he is. But I'm excited for him to, 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:52.920 you know, prove a lot of people are wrong and 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:55.880 make a lot of plays. Yeah, but yeah, I'm really 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.880 excited to see that as well. I think it's going 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.160 to be a situation though. Oh you've got to keep 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:04.520 in mind, Paul. With Hollywood Brown, it's not just about 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:09.280 him making place. It's about him running routes. He runs 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:14.360 routes pawly, those vertical routes in particular in the secondary. Man, 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.480 that's gonna get a safety's attention, and that's gonna get 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:21.400 a defensive coordinator's attention as well. It's what he does 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:23.360 even when he doesn't get the ball. I talk about 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:25.200 it all the time. Yeah, I think it was yesterday 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:28.000 he got behind the secondary for a deep ball, big, 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:32.360 big connection with Kyler Murray. So that obviously was good 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:34.199 to see. And you wonder about that chemistry because you 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:36.559 know what, players talked about it in the off season, 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:39.640 during the OTAs, during the mini camp. Greg Dortch talked 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:41.560 about it with the media this week. He said, instantly 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:43.319 you could see the chemistry they have and you forget 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:47.200 they just didn't have twenty eighteen, the Heisman winning campaign 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:49.480 by Kyler. They spent their two years prior when Baker 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:51.959 Mayfield was a starting quarterback at Oklahoma on the scout 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:55.480 team and that was their game day, those scout team practices, 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:57.679 Kyler to Hollywood Brown. They would try and take it 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:00.920 to the first team defense at Ouse. So they really 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:03.760 have three years of that sort of of chemistry going. 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:05.920 By the way, we'll speaking of personnel groups. Did you 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:10.280 see the signing late today out of the Cardinal's front office? Oh? Yeah, 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:12.440 I did. As a matter of fact, PAULI, what are 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:15.960 you saying. Are you saying that there's an actual fullback 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:18.760 on the roster? Paul? You did see it, and you 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:21.360 do know where I'm going with this hashtag fishy fishy 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:24.319 When the tight end happens to be six one two 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.520 twenty six, and has spent parts of the last two 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:31.040 years on the Niners practice squad, mostly as a full 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:35.520 bat Josh hokit, so if he's been studying under Kyle 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:41.920 Uschek in San Francisco, interesting, is it not? Yes? It is, Paul. 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:44.520 Can I just say this to PAULI are you sure 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:47.680 it's hoke it Paul, because I was hoping it was hocket? 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:51.719 Well is that high? I saw the pronunciation and it 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:55.839 was a capital ho, which I translate is as hoke it. Okay, 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.120 So that's the way I'm going, Paully. Okay, you know what, 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:00.559 I'm gonna go with the hocket right now. I don't know. 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:03.520 I'm just gonna go with hacket because it sounds so 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:05.400 much better and it looks so much better on the 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:08.679 back of a full backs jersey. Hack it. Yeah, but 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:11.040 nobody wants to hear you clear your throat what you're saying. 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:16.120 That was really why, Paul, I ask you what exactly 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.640 why would you do that? So? I don't know, but 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:22.079 that's gonna be interesting to watch right now, you know 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:24.720 the way that I feel. Listen, last year, the Arizona 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:28.640 Cardinals on a twelve personnel one back two tight ends, PAULI, 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:30.959 they were right in the middle of the league, number 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:33.840 fourteen in use of two tight ends. I think that's 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:36.760 a little surprising to most people right there as well, 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:40.800 Right number fourteen, Paul, right in the middle. I think 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:44.480 that number is going to go up significantly as well well. 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:46.800 The preseason opener at Cincinnati, how many times did we 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:48.679 see a tight end in the backfield in the gun, 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:51.199 whether two backs flanking the quarterback? In that game, you 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:54.679 saw it fairly often. You saw Steven Anderson in that role. 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:57.240 Steven Anderson is nicked up right now, so maybe you 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:59.559 know they bring in Josh Hokit. He fills that Steven 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.720 Anderson role at least for now. And and so yeah, 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:04.599 I think this is an aspect of the offense that 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:07.880 will evolve this year because Steven Anderson himself has played 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:09.840 a lot of fullback in his four years in the NFL. 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:13.600 Trey McBride will go Sunday Night. According to Cliff Kingsbury, 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:15.960 the second round rookie tight end out of Colorado State, 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:18.199 and then a guy's got a lot of reps and 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:21.199 got his first career catch of any sort in the NFL. 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:25.640 Bernhard's Psychovitz. He met the media today, Wolf And here's 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:29.000 the beginning of the press conference, starting with Darren Urban 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:31.400 and a little Q and a. Here, you're a year 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:33.560 into this thing, a little bit more in the year. 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:37.400 Just how far have you called today football player? At 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:40.040 that time? Yeah, I was coping this man, and yeah 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:44.959 we have been first effort at Tweland. I'm choking. Um. 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:47.319 I think I think I got pretty far in this 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:50.960 one year alone. Um, I feel way more confident. Um, 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:55.520 I know their calls, I know how people move solid. 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:58.679 That's good, Wolf, I mean, okay, some personality out of 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:01.160 Psycho and then you know, I mean yourself as a 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:02.839 guy with a last name like wolf Ley. Do you 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:04.920 care to translate what he said? They're in German? No, 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:07.400 you know what he said, they're in German, Paul, I'm 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:09.920 going to kick your face in. That's what I think 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:13.120 he said. I don't hold me to that, Polly, But yeah, 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:16.880 this is seriously psycho Vitz. Psycho is I like to 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:18.760 call him, and I think he actually likes it when 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:22.280 I do call him that, Polly. I honestly think this 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:27.160 guy has got a chance now again. Um, I think 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:31.680 practice squad could be his final destination. But I really 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.480 like what I'm seeing from this guy. There's no doubt 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:37.040 he has taken the next step. He's holding his own 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:41.000 in the full contact drills and in his hands, he's 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:45.000 been catching most everything I've seen in all the passing drills, 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:47.400 and so then they targeted him and he's been getting 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.839 a lot of reps with even the first team, with 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:52.400 some of the other tight ends either getting a vet day, 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:54.599 you know, zach Ertz obviously has missed most of the 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:57.040 last two weeks, and then they're going easy somewhat on 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:59.520 Max Williams and then Trey McBride with a back, So 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:03.120 he's had a lot of opportunities. Just getting ready poly 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:09.360 twenty one personnel coming your way to the Arizona Cardinals. Okay, 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:12.240 tasted baby, good time to say hey, A reminder of 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:14.520 the day. Pash Podcast catch it now wherever you get 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:19.559 your podcasts featuring an ESPN analyst, Dusty Divorcheck available now 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:22.280 and you can follow via Twitter at pashpod. All Right, 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:26.320 Popularity Contest in the Old Line Room, DJ Humphrey's Justin 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:29.640 Pew I mean Kelvin Beecham or the new rookie that 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:31.920 is all next Justin Pew on the Big Red Rage. 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:37.640 Justin Pew came off the ball with a dark heartner 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:41.640 painted face, getting some movement at the point of attack. 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:46.120 That's a physical football play for pay Dirt. We have 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:48.120 a lot of competition in our offensive line room, and 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:50.199 I always says every year, the more competition you have, 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:53.120 the better. We played fourteen different offensive lineman last year, 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:55.199 so you have to have guys ready to play. So 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:58.840 having Harlow getting valuable reps, having Josh Jones getting valuable reps, 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:02.880 that that's great for our team. You know, I learned 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:05.800 over the years that if you really want to know 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:08.120 what's going on in a training camp, you go into 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:10.199 the old line room. You find a guy with a 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:12.839 decade under his belt the wisdom that comes with that, 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:15.600 and then and then you bring him in here onto 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:18.200 the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:21.200 So that said, that's our intro for starting left guard 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:24.560 Justin Pugh. Although does your intro still include backup center? 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:27.000 Where does that stand these days? Swiss Army Knife? You know, 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:29.680 we played right guard, right tackle, left tackle. I actually 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:32.520 haven't played center in a game, so the other three 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.880 positions probably fit a little bit better. You take everything 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:37.960 in stripe, But if you had to play center, that 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:41.040 would be a little daunting, wouldn't it. Yeah, it would be, 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:42.280 But you have to do you have to do for 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:45.200 the team. I mean, I enjoy the challenge. I would 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:47.560 have fun with it. I mess with Kyler a little 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:49.840 more than I do already because we've been interacting a 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:53.920 little bit more. It would definitely be a difficult task, 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:57.520 but something that I'll be up for. Speaking of messing 0:14:57.600 --> 0:14:59.560 with people, I asked some of your colleagues, Okay, I 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:01.320 went into the old line room. I said, what should 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:03.640 I hit? Justin peu up with? Okay, let's see. Sean 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:07.760 Coogler said, just everything. Everything's fair game, didn't specify. A 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:10.040 couple other guys said, you know what, you should ask him? 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:14.880 How much did he weigh on his wedding day. I 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:18.520 had gotten pretty light on my wedding day. Again, I 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:20.600 didn't know. I just found out that I was coming 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:25.040 back to play this year. I thought after the pay 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:28.240 cut last year and the way things were going, I'm like, oh, 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:30.520 you know, they're gonna have me walking out the door 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:33.680 here and all my wedding day. I pretty light. I 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:36.080 would say probably two sixty five and today I waited 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:39.040 into two eighty six, twenty pounds since my wedding, And 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:41.640 what'd you play at most of the last year two 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:43.960 eighty two eighty five. Really, I'm as heavy as I 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:46.120 was last year, and you like the weight you put 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:49.560 on since since getting light over the off season. Yeah, 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:51.200 it's a different type of strength. I mean since I 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:55.320 started training at with La Charles Bentley over in Tempe 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:57.640 with a bunch of the offensive lineman, it's more being 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:00.680 able to control your body weight, doing weren't more O 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:03.640 line specific drills every day all day and I feel 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:05.000 a lot better. I mean I can do ten pull 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:07.800 ups now, where when I started with you know, it 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:12.400 was OLP. Now it's amdgum training. I wasn't I wasn't 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:14.680 able to do any So it's been something that's been 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.320 great working with those guys. I work with DJ Humphries 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:20.160 all throughout the offseason, Calvin Beacham, so we have a 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:21.960 great rapport that we can just show up and you know, 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:24.560 take pick up where we left off. Justin Pugh was 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:26.680 our guest here on the Big Red Race presented by 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:29.880 Santan Ford and Gilbert So what stands out about this 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:33.440 camp so far. Um, you know, it's been been a 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:36.400 lot of ups and downs. We've had a chance to 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:38.640 you know, things don't always go your way in a 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:41.400 training camp, and then the same cliche cliche things are 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.520 set over and over again. You know, we got to 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:44.960 get back to the drawing, but we got to have 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:47.760 time to gel and you know tomorrow is gonna be 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:49.920 a better day. There's always a day where the head 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:52.280 coach yells at you. There's a day where everyone gets 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:55.240 into a bench clearing brawl. M So we've checked all 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:57.560 the boxes. I mean, this is just like most training camps. 0:16:57.600 --> 0:17:00.840 I mean we've the beauty of being in Arizona as 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:02.640 we get to be inside on this grass and it 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:05.679 really takes care of your lower extremities. The knees feel good, 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:07.679 the ankles feel good. I know a lot of places 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:10.040 you're on a tour for your outside and the heat. 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:13.480 This has been good for us and I'm excited to 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:16.720 get over a Tennessee for a few days go against 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:18.880 someone else other than our defensive line. I know we're 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:21.840 tired of seeing each other and it's been it's been 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:24.879 a good camp so far. Yeah, you termed Will Hernandez 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.360 an enforcer. Right the first week of camp, I took 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:29.440 that Calvisia consulting. We said, we're gonna print up some 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:32.800 T shirts will versus everybody, but now we have to 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:36.320 put out another T shirt seventy eight against everybody. That 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:40.119 would be Marquis Hayes, the rookie, and he was filling 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:42.480 in for you on your VET day at left guard. 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:44.840 Tell us about him because he met the media and 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:47.840 if you want to catch everyone's notice as a seventh rounder, 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:50.160 I mean he's been doing that recently, hasn't he. Yeah, 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:52.399 he's playing awesome. I mean that's one of the things. 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:54.880 I mean I tell him every day when I take 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:56.320 a day off, if you're not, if I don't come 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:58.480 back the next day and you're closer or taking my job, 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:01.480 you messed up. It's that I love. I love the competition. 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:02.920 I want him to go out there and push me 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.120 to be better. I want him to be the next 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:07.480 left guard that plays for the Arizona Cardinals. That's that's 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:09.760 that's my goal for him, and giving him all the 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:11.960 advice that I can, everything that I see or little 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:15.400 nuances and when Coach Coogler corrects him, he's not correcting 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:19.600 him on losing a rep. He's saying, all right, this 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:21.120 is what you can do to get a little bit better. 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:23.280 And that's something that's very impressive for me to see. 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:26.680 It's not like he's having these to make overarching, overhaul changes. 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:29.640 It's little nuances that once he gets those down, he's 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:31.760 going to be even better. So excited to see him 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:34.520 play this weekend. And he's got that element that you 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:37.080 can't teach, that edge, right. DJ called him an old 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:40.840 school mawler. That dog. I mean, when you have a 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:42.640 dog in there and you got there and you bully people, 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:44.920 that's going to catch the odds of everybody. And he's 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:47.399 been going out there playing that way and he's got 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:50.080 a great attitude, he's asking questions, he's and then on 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:52.359 top of that, he's been a great rookie. For my birthday, 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:54.520 they went out and got me blizzards from Dairy Queen. 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:57.960 They got pizzas for coach Coog's on his birthday. So 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:00.919 they've done their rookie duties as well. That's well done. Absolutely. 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:04.240 I asked this a lot of veterans players, no players, right, 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:07.000 how long does it take you to determine when a 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:08.800 rookie comes in If he's got a shot if he 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:10.840 can be a player. How long does it take you 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:13.439 the first day in meeting him, I mean it's more 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:16.760 offensive lines, more about demeanor. It'd be the first day 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:19.040 meetingum if I know his mentality is right, and then 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:21.320 the first day in full pads in training camp whether 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:24.119 I know they're gonna match up, because sometimes so I 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:26.399 guess that there's a difference in those two. It probably 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:28.959 takes the first day of training camp, once we get 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:30.960 in full pads to see how they're going to react. 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:33.680 And then I guess there's three tests. The first one 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:35.840 meeting him is a mentality right to fit into the 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:38.920 offensive line scheme. This isn't a me, me and me 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:41.680 type atmosphere. You got to fit into the room, first 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:44.879 day in pads, and then first real game once the 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:48.040 bullets are flying live, you got fans in the stadium. 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:50.200 There's a little more pressure, there's a little more angst 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:51.879 of like having to you know, it's not in the 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:53.760 same as as going through a full pad of practice. 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:56.399 Those three tests. You pass those three, we know that 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:58.760 there can be some success down the road, justin pure 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:01.399 I guess in the big red rage. So look, if 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:04.440 you're Marquis has Lucida Smith. These guys training camp is 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:08.080 very important. The preseason games are important, But for veterans 0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:11.119 who are already atop the depth chart, it just seems 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:14.399 like preseason games they just don't matter much anymore. Think 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:16.800