1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up, 2 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: straight Fire fan, it's your boy, Jason McIntire. Straight Fire 3 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: for Tuesday, August thirty one, final day of the month. 4 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: You know what September means? Ah? Yes, football, it's almost here. 5 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: Very exciting pod today we talked about week one in 6 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: college football with Brock Heward. He calls games former Washington quarterback, 7 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: former NFL quarterback as well, Washington Huskies. That is not 8 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: Washington Football club, and uh, you know, we get excited 9 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: for that. He's a big Seattle guy, so we dive 10 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: into the Seahawks. I know I have several friends who 11 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: are listeners of the pod and they I don't know 12 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: if they're gonna love what they hear from Brock Heward 13 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: about Seattle. But before we get to that, just a 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: quick announcement, Holy cal Carson Wentz continues to step in it. 15 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: Oh my god, can this guy ever get anything right? 16 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: It's Carson Wentz coming off his garbage year in Indy 17 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: where he just took sack after sack after sack. Uh. 18 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: Somebody told me a funny joke that um Carson Wentz 19 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: was sacked fifty times last year. Oh no, wait, fifty 20 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: one if you include when Doug Peterson benched his ass 21 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: um it was just a nightmare for him. And he 22 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: was a fumble machine. He led the league in interceptions, 23 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: he was tied for the league lead, actually, and his 24 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: confidence is shot. He's like Chuck Knoblock when Chuck Na 25 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: Chuck Knoblock forgot how to throw from second base to first. 26 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: Any Yankee fans surely will remember that. Um, it was weird. 27 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: He just had the yips. And um, I don't know 28 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: if Carson Wentz has the yips, but my gosh, is 29 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: that guy afraid to make things happen? Um like take 30 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: the snap, drop and fire and he just a confidence 31 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: isn't there? And guess what now his offensive line we 32 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: talked about him Monday. They loads the left tackle for 33 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: the season. That was the backup left tackle, the phill 34 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: in until Eric Fischer comes off the Achilles. Well, they 35 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: got more news on Monday. Okay, Carson Wentz hits on 36 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: the COVID list. Center i Am Kelly also on the 37 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: COVID list, and receiver Zach Pascal. Now, apparently they had 38 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: a close contact with a Colts staffer who had tested positive, 39 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: so they got to sit out for five days. Now 40 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: listen out five days meet presumably means this week. I'm 41 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: assuming you know Wentz who kind of sort of is 42 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: coming off of surgery, you know, kind of a big 43 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: deal coming out of surgery. Now he's got to be 44 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: sidelined due to COVID I mean the COVID reserved list. 45 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he has it. By the way, if 46 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: you're wondering, Carson Wentz has not answered the question if 47 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: he's an accidented or not. Take that how you want. 48 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: But a lot of people, I'm not doing this, are 49 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: lumping him in the Kirk Cousins, Lamar Jackson grouping and 50 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: folks like this is just one crappy thing after another 51 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: for Carson Wentz. It's just off to a very rocky start. Now, 52 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: I have a buddy who is a huge Colts fan. 53 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if he listens to the podcast. I 54 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: probably should ask him if I can say this, Um, 55 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: but he he's a big time Colts fan, and he 56 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: said that. Um. Carson Wentz went and spoke to his 57 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: company after the Eagles were in the Super Bowl. And 58 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,839 Speaker 1: now remember Wentz did not play in the Super Bowl. 59 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: That was the Nick Foles show, and Carson Wentz very 60 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: very religious, had a colossal ego that comes from someone 61 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: who believes they live so righteously they are somehow special 62 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: and above others. Now, I will step in and say, 63 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: this guy who sent me this text, super nice guy, 64 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: normal dude. You'd hang out and have beers with him. 65 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: He's not a jerk. Um. I don't know if he's religious. 66 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: I know obviously I am, um, but we're not going 67 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: to bring religion in to this podcast. Um. But I 68 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: do know the type for sure, um. And bottom line 69 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: is that, you know, he thought Wentz came off kind 70 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: of smug and you know, frankly, if you looked at 71 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: the Colts last year, they kind of rallied around Jalen 72 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: Hurts because Wentz had turned off a lot of guys 73 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: in that locker room. He really had. He had a 74 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: couple of cork people. But remember there was all these 75 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: like little stories behind the scenes about Carson Wentz and ego, 76 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: and then him and the coach went at it and 77 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: then he had like no allies. You know, when you're 78 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: going down, you want of friends to be there for you, 79 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: and if they're not there for you, could be that 80 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: it's you or you need new friends. But in Carson 81 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: Wentz's case, it looks like it's both because he's now 82 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: an indie and listen, first impressions are everything, Hey Carson, oh, 83 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: surgery on? Okay? And now the COVID reserve list all right? 84 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: Got it? Like the pressure is on, like Seattle is 85 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: what twelve days away? Like it's rapidly approaching the season opener. 86 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: Will he start? I don't know. Will it be Jacob Eeson? 87 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: We'll see, but um my goodness, this is just a 88 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: staggering development for uh, the Indianapolis Colts and Carson Wentz, 89 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: who continues to struggle to get out of his own way. 90 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: Other than that, not a lot happening in sports on Monday. 91 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: Um So, without further ado, let's get to our interview today, 92 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: brock Heward. Jason likes to think he knows everything when 93 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: it comes to sports. I know what sports stands want, 94 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: but for everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does. 95 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: Let's just say I know a guy who knows. Guy 96 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: another guy. Let's welcome into straight fire. A guy who 97 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: called college football games, calls NFL games, was a superstar 98 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: in college football, was drafted in the NFL I mean basically, 99 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: if you want to talk football pigskin at all with him, 100 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: you need to talk to Brock. He or Brock. How 101 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: are you? Man? I'm doing great, man, fun to be 102 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: a part of the Straight Fire podcast the first time. 103 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: I'm taking the time. I mean listen, I heard heard 104 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: the uh the call you were on the Nebraska game 105 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: over the weekend, and uh oh, boy, Brock. You know, 106 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: these are tough times for Scotty Frost. Everybody thought like, oh, 107 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: natural fit Nebraska guy going home, the prodigal son returns, 108 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: and I mean, you look at the record, You're like 109 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: year four. I don't. I don't know, man, I feel 110 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: a little bad for Frost. This would be one Jason 111 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: that of all of my takes over the years, I 112 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: know they do those freezing cold takes. I think there's 113 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: a I think there's a website or a Twitter follow 114 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: or something like that. If you were to go back 115 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: four plus years when he was hired. This would be 116 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: a freezing cold take for me because I was very 117 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: much if anybody was going to do it, or if 118 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: you could buy stock like a company in any in 119 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: any coach coming into a circumstance, this is one that 120 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: I would have bought it's a big ten West. Number one, 121 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: he's not. It's not Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State. Right, 122 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: this is a big ten West. It's Wisconsin and Iowa's 123 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: certainly some some really quality programs, But nothing there from 124 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: a recruiting standpoint that should be fearful or that you 125 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: can't compete with. Number two. This guy knows everything about 126 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: this program was where all the bodies are buried. One 127 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: national titles, there is beloved there, as you said, the 128 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: chosen son come home. And number three he had everything 129 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: on a resume that you could possibly want. Everything. He 130 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: coached college NFL, he he played for Parcels Right, he 131 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: played in in for Tom Osborne, he coached under Chip Kelly, Heck, 132 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: he won a national title thirteen and oh crowned himself 133 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: at UCF and beat Auburn in that Peach Bowl that 134 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: I got to call. So yeah, this this is a 135 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: this is a stunning one that there's probably doably six 136 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: or seven tentacles that we could get into it as 137 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: to why. But but bottom line is there's a huge 138 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: amount of expectation and when you make the kind of 139 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: mistakes that his teams have made over these four years, 140 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: five and thirteen and one possession games five and thirteen 141 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: in one possession games. That tells you that they can't 142 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: get over the hunt, they don't believe within enough, and 143 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: that the weight of those expectations is just burdening decision making, 144 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: burdening playmaking, and just causing catastrophic a word. They used 145 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: a lot catastrophic mistakes at all the wrong times. I mean, 146 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: you want to give the guy a chance. He's by 147 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: all accounts, a great human being. He's always done the 148 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: right thing, as you said, you know, and maybe you 149 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: toss out last year's COVID year, But you know, I 150 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: don't know, Brock. This isn't Florida. Will you dump a 151 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: coach after two years if he stinks or he's not delivering? 152 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: Like this is Nebraska? Like should we set realistic expectations? 153 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: You know? Should we give you more time to let 154 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: a bake and get to maybe more than one full 155 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,559 Speaker 1: recruiting cycle. There was a great column that I read 156 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: Sunday morning, one of the local guys there in Lincoln, 157 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: a really good writer, and forgive me for not remembering 158 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: his name, but he but he made the same point 159 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: that a little bit of what You're just asking there, 160 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: and others are saying in college football, if not Scott Frost, 161 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: then who. And I know that's been written about with 162 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh, that's been written about with Scott Frost. I 163 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: don't like to write that, especially in that locale where 164 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: he is the chosen son, where he was a national champion, 165 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: where he was everything that I talked about. But honest 166 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: to goodness, if not Scott Frost, and who and and 167 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: and I from from every side of that, Jason, because 168 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: the way that I've learned these coaches and fifteen years 169 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: of being on the road, you know how they think. 170 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: Bret Bielema thinks this way Illinois will work because Ron 171 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: Zook made it work and Ron Turner made at work. 172 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: And you can win there. And there's enough there that 173 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: we can win in seven eight games and maybe an 174 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: occasional like Kirk ference has done. And I wann occasional 175 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: run with a really special group because it's been done 176 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: there in the past. It's not been done since Tom Osborne, 177 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 1: and coaches look at that and go, if Scott can't 178 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: do it with that resume, with that background, with his 179 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: coaching acumen, if he can't do it, what makes me 180 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: think of that that I can do it and go 181 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: into that locale. And that's a pretty dangerous scenario to 182 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: be in. So some outsiders going to come in and 183 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: turn it around instantly. Sure, we'll get to the NFL 184 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: in a minute, but there's a monster college football weekend, Brock. 185 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: I mean, the games are ridiculous. You know, I don't 186 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: know obviously, Georgia Clemson is the marquee matchup, but I 187 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: am curious, where are you in Alabama? Miami? Like, what's 188 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: your interest level in that? I know people want to 189 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: talk up Miami, but we've seen this pretty much every year. Okay, Alabama, 190 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: even though they lost seventeen coaches to the NFL and 191 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: seventy four guys to the first three rounds or whatever, 192 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: they're still going to destroy Miami here correct, well eighteen 193 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: and a half points. The guys in Vegas think so. 194 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: And by the way, lines and I love it. Announcers 195 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: who look at him seriously, can I just say and 196 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: I didn't I I'll look at the line, that's all. 197 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: I'm not. I I don't even understand the rest of 198 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: it um at all. I kind of kind of get 199 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: the game total. How how did they do that in 200 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 1: in in Champagne fifty two and a half it was 201 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: thirty to twenty two. Is the guy lined up for 202 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: a p A T in which I know he missed 203 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: one earlier in the game. He didn't miss one all 204 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 1: of last year. How did they do that? Well? You 205 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 1: know they built casinos in the desert, uh and they 206 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: are really nice. It's a nice setups. They kind of 207 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: know what they're doing. I will say the I already bet. 208 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: We had a guest last week who really talked up 209 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: the Alabama Miami under under sixty two. It's come down 210 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: from like sixty four because let's be realistic, Alabama's defense 211 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: returns a lot. And you know, you remember Michigan went 212 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: up against them early. I think someone else did. It's 213 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: always like forty nine. Nothing USC did got absolutely destroyed 214 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: and humiliated and it beat him up, frankly for the 215 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: rest of the season. And that if you're a Miami fans, 216 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: like the biggest concern. And Mannyda is doing a good job. 217 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: Derrick King, if healthy off of his knee, is a 218 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: nice player. At Lastly, the o C is innovative, right. 219 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: They showed some some peaks and valleys last year. But 220 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: all in all, it was a pretty positive step. What 221 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: you can't have is not only a throttling, but a 222 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: physical beatdown where you lose people. And that's what's happened 223 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: to USC That's what's happened to Michigan. That's what's happened 224 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: in this game over the years is Alabama beats you up, 225 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: not on the scoreboard, not even emotionally, but physically. Now, 226 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: that is where you would hope for Miami and where 227 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: they are and expectations that it wouldn't be that quite 228 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: a bad of beating, but eighteen plus is what Vegas thinks. 229 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: And yeah, I think it could start a little slow. 230 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: I think Miami couldn't. I think Miami could keep it 231 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 1: kind of interesting in that first half. I do I 232 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: I don't think they'll just get raced and run off 233 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 1: of the field. I think there's some pride there, there's 234 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: a little bit of swagger there, there's some athleticism, some 235 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: size at the line of scrimmage. Rice Young's makings first start. Um, 236 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: you know, he's not the biggest guy in the world. 237 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: Sometimes you've got to see things before he fires the trigger. 238 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: Like a lot of a young quarterbacks and be short quarterbacks. 239 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: They want to see it before they throw it. So 240 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: will he played with the anticipation of Mac Jones, a 241 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: first year starter. No, because he had three years underneath 242 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: his belt watching the best do it? Is there a 243 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator with a new voice in his ear? Yes? 244 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: You know? Are there? Is there enough newness? Eight new 245 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: starters on offense for Obama? Yes? So, I think for 246 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: college football's sake, you hope that that thing remains interesting 247 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: into the second half. But ultimately Alabama is just really 248 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: really deep. What do you are you on a game 249 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: this weekend? I am? I got another good one of 250 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: SEC versus the Pac twelve. So l s U making 251 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 1: the trip out to Pasadena. Yeah, that's now that's interesting 252 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: because a lot of people are really on U c 253 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: l A and this one. They don't love the L 254 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: s U team. I know LSU has had a rough 255 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: week with the hurricane down there. Um the ls US 256 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: only favored by three and a half. Um, I don't know. 257 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: I did not watch a lot of U C l 258 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: A Hawaii. Were you impressed her? I was very I 259 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 1: tried to go in Jason last night totally unbiased to 260 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: the tape. So Sundays I try to We got a 261 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: couple of kids. Sunday night's like a homework night at 262 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 1: the table now that school started, right, My wife does 263 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: interior design. We have like okay before dinner, after dinner 264 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: and just set time at the table, and it gives 265 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: me a chance to pull out the iPad and watch tape. 266 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: And I was I just tried to be like totally umbiased. 267 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: Let me just go into this. I don't want to 268 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: watch TV compy, I don't want to read commentary and 269 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: I gonna read articles. Was this more about how bad 270 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: Hawaii is or more about wow? U c l A 271 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: is different? And I would say U c l A 272 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: is different defensively, and Hawaii is really atrocious on defense. 273 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,599 Speaker 1: So the U c l A offense and Charbonne a 274 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: running through them and over them and around them for 275 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: seventeen yards to carry that won't happen Saturday night in 276 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: Pasadena U c l as defense man. They got a 277 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: new assistant in there, Norwood as a passing game coordinator. 278 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: Came from Navy. Other spots has these dudes playing hard 279 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: and they are funky too. They're a fun study for me. 280 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: Sometimes it gets a little boring in college because you'll 281 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: get just like four or three quarters. Right, there's just 282 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: not as much innovation at times in the college game 283 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: defensively as there is the NFL game. But not them. 284 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: They are everywhere and anywhere. They don't run the same 285 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: thing twice. L s u as a young quarterback Max 286 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: Johnson Bradson, the old super Bowling quarterback, started a couple 287 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: of games the end of last year. Lefty still you 288 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: know this, not a lot of starts under his belt. 289 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: Some new people, receiver, new running backs, like it's there's 290 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: gonna be newness there. And they were pretty They were 291 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: pretty feisty on defense, which is not something the Powder 292 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: Blue normally is. So uh, they were really good on 293 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: that call. Are you calling the U c L a 294 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: boon and soft process? I'm saying in the past and 295 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: not always been the most violent physical team, Jason, And yes, 296 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: I think that. Well, you know that leads to a 297 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: good question. Um, you're a West Coast guy, right, grew 298 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: up in Seattle. I only moved to the West Coast 299 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: five years ago with the family from Pennsylvania. We I'm 300 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: a Northern Virginia guy born in New York. And there 301 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: is this stigma that the West Coast has software football 302 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: players that's been out there forever and not breaking new 303 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: ground here. Where do you come in on that? Being 304 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: a West Coast guy, Yeah, I wouldn't say softer. They 305 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: just don't have the size, right, So you take ah 306 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: And I remember this vividly one time I was out. 307 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: You do these media days right in college football, and 308 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: you travel to the media days, and this year I 309 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: got to go to the Big twelve, Big ten. You 310 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: see those guys, you see players. A couple of years ago, 311 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: the folks of the ESPN when I was working there, 312 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: said hey, we'd really like you guys to go out 313 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:53,359 Speaker 1: to the American Conference media days. It's out on the coast, Gosh, Providence, 314 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: Rhode Island. I believe there was lobster um small lobster. 315 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: I don't that they'd be big lobsters, a little small lobsters. 316 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: And I remember at that media day looking at those 317 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: players and going chief. You just see the difference, Like 318 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: the SEC Big ten linebacker is six two six three 319 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: to thirty. The American Conference linebacker is five eleven six 320 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: ft two five. Right. The d lineman in the SEC 321 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: Big ten whatever, you know, three pounds the the lineman 322 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: and the American or two eighty pounds right pack twelve 323 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: is kind of right in between there, and they don't 324 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: especially at the point of attack like U. C. L 325 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: A's group. I've watched him last night, like that center 326 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: the left guard or to nine, and you're you're going 327 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: up against three thirty five pound wardatties. So it's not 328 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: that they're soft. It is just simply a mass. Right. 329 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: It's the old Einstein right. Uh. I shouldn't say that 330 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: because I don't know the theory, but whatever that quotion 331 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: about speed and mass and force is that equals and 332 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: there's there's a lot more of it, and that force 333 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: is a lot heavy and a lot thumpier and a 334 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: lot stronger when of his bigger dudes running at the 335 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: rate that they can run, especially in that conference. Fox 336 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 337 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot 338 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: com and within the I Heart Radio app search f 339 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: s R to listen live. Al Right, so we'll wrap 340 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,479 Speaker 1: up college football with Georgia Clemson, obviously a Markey matchup. Now, 341 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: it's weird because the game totally doesn't mean a lot 342 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things, because Georgia can still 343 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: obviously get to the SEC championship game. Uh, and Clemson 344 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: is gonna still roll to the a SEC title game. 345 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: But are these two legit title contenders do you still 346 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: have like Alabama cut above and in Oklahoma there in 347 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 1: no house dat as well? No, I think they're I 348 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,719 Speaker 1: think they're right there. And you know, I was chatting 349 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: with my new colleague Chris Peterson, how about that Bill 350 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: Belichick of college football? It's come to the other side. 351 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: And I messed with him about that too, Like you were, 352 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: you were terrible with the media as as a coach, 353 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: and he's like took my notes from Belichick one to 354 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: say nothing wait wait wait he terrible or just didn't 355 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: say much. He just didn't want Yeah, no, he just 356 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: didn't want any part of it. He just does not 357 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: did not like it, didn't see the advantage of it, 358 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: didn't want any did not want really any piece of it. Um. 359 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: But now he is so excited to talk football, and 360 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: he's been away from it for a couple of years. 361 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: He's thrilled to do it, you know. And he said 362 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: to me, Gosh, I really think this is gonna be 363 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: a year or some curveballs. I think if there was 364 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: any year to have some upsets, a little bit of 365 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: chaos curveballs because of last year's wonkiness because you don't 366 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: really know teams, you know, you don't see behind the 367 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: scenes how much growth and development was actually made in 368 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 1: some of these places. Um, you you could be totally 369 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: like falsified evidence from a season ago because it was 370 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: so strange, so difficult in those places. And you know what, 371 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: the heck last weekend was the first indicator that nobody 372 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: saw u c l A just forty one three and 373 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: the start of the third quarter against Hawaii, Illinois was 374 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: a seven point dog. They were up thirty to nine. 375 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: If Martine this doesn't get out for seventy five yard run, 376 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: they may win that game by two or three touchdown. 377 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 1: So I hope, for college football's sake that there is 378 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: some turnover. I hope there is a little bit of chaos. 379 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: I hope on Monday we're sitting here and going, wow, 380 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: I didn't necessarily see that coming. This is super healthy 381 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 1: for college football. But Clemson and Georgia their rosters, no, 382 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: they are absolutely you know, top six, top seven roster 383 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: in all of college football. And I don't think there's 384 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: much debate about that. All right, let's move to the NFL. 385 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: Let listen. I probably haven't said a lot of kind 386 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: things about the Seattle Seahawks recently. They stole my guy, 387 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: Jamal Adams. But I did not want Jamal Adams to 388 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: stay in New York. He wanted all the money, UH brought. 389 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: The way I look at Adams is like great in 390 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 1: the box and transformative safety. But I mean the coverage 391 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: stats were awful last year. You know, you talked to 392 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: a lot of front office guys, You interview people all 393 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: the time. It seems a little crazy that Seattle gave 394 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: him all the money Jason. They had to. And I 395 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: don't know think this was We're talking earlier about Alabama, 396 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: Miami physically, emotionally, you know, just bottom line points. Just 397 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: when it comes to Seattle. I think what people maybe 398 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: because I was super super close to it for so long, 399 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: is you don't realize they are paying a premium for him. 400 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: They're paying him what they're paying him because they need 401 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: his edge. Once once that l ob walked out and 402 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: unfortunately Cam's career shortened. Unfortunately it blew up with Earl 403 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: in the end. Uh. You know, Richard's body gotten beat up, 404 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: and once that door closed, they didn't have any juice. Man, 405 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: there was no edge. They tried to draft it, try 406 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: to develop it. Frank Clark was his own kind of juice. 407 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,479 Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner is just Bobby's not that guy. That's just 408 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: you know, he's Hall of Famer, but that's not his 409 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 1: And Pete bounces around on that sideline. And you know 410 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: his favorite team's grown up were the Oakland Raiders of 411 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: the seventies. He wants colorful guys, he wants animated guys. 412 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: He wants energy and juice like he he wants that, 413 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: and they didn't have it, didn't have any of it. 414 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: Is he limited as a coverage guy? Yes, it's incredibly physical. 415 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: Does he love football? I think they're paying him the 416 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: highest paid safety rate because they need that juice. And 417 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: you saw when he came onto the scene the second 418 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: half of last year with Carlos Dunlap in some editions, 419 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: they went from the worst defense historically statistically in the 420 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: history of the NFL through eight games to one of 421 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: the top defenses the second eight. And I'm going to 422 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: say the energizer Bunny, the juice that is Jamal Adams 423 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: was a big part of that. Interesting. Now on the 424 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: offensive side, I kind of listen Schottenheimer is what he was, right, 425 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: just an old school guy from his dad. But I 426 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: like how the Rams would crush Seattle offensively. They've dominated. 427 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,719 Speaker 1: I think they've won six of eight. So what did 428 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll do? Hey, give me your passing game coordinator. 429 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: Let's bring him in to let Russ cook. I feel 430 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: like that's an underplayed move, like you know, a new 431 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. Hopefully they're not going to just run three 432 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: yards in a cloud of dust with Carson. Yeah. I 433 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: don't think they will. Jason, there's gonna be a learning 434 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: curve though. It kind of reminds me of the last 435 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: time this kind of marriage happens, this pairing, and that 436 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: was Aaron Rodgers and Matt Lafleur coming out of this 437 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: kind of system. Aaron Rodgers had been in his system 438 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: for long, even longer than Russell. But Russ have been very, 439 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: very competent for nine years. Same language from Bevel Schottenheimer. 440 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: That didn't change much, right, So same language everything else. 441 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: This is this is new nomenclature, this is new verbiage. 442 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: This is a whole new offense. Uh doing NFL last year. 443 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: I remember the flu and Aaron Rodgers saying before the 444 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: first game, your number one was Okay, this is some 445 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: of Erin's language, This is some of what Aaron likes, 446 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: This is some of what Matt wants, some of what 447 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: Matt's language. But it was never the Green Bay system, right. 448 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: It was those two worlds just kind of blending. And 449 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: you know, I think there's gonna be some of that. 450 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: Russell is not Aaron Rodgers. He's not his opinion aiated. Uh, 451 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: he rris himself differently, you know, all of that stuff. 452 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: But he knows ball for nine ways one way. So 453 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: does Pete Carroll. By the way, in Seattle, Shane Waldron's 454 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: never called plays, right, He's never done that other than 455 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: his time at bbing in the private school up in 456 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: the northeast. Yes, yeah there was a school. Yeah, I 457 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: would know. I should know what my co host, Mike Salt, 458 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: that's where he went to schools. Yeah, so it's a 459 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: very elite academic school, certainly, yes, but one year calling 460 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: plays they're very different than calling actual plays in a game. 461 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: Do you know Waldron at all? But because like it 462 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: could be tough going in there with you know, like 463 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: you said, La Fleur going into with Aaron Rodgers and 464 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: it's like, bro, what are you gonna tell Aaron Rodgers? 465 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: Like what's he gonna tell Russell Wilson? Yes, And I 466 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: think one of the other differences and make it even 467 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: you know, if you want to paint this narrative and 468 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: some more of the challenges for an the learning curve 469 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: A the division they're hand is just absolutely brutal and 470 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: loaded defensively. But be Matt Lafleur is the head coach, 471 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: so Matt Fleur still had all of the power. Shane 472 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: Waldron has a very dominant head coach, a very defensive minded, 473 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: dominant head coach, a very loud, defensive minded, loud head 474 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 1: coach who even in the playoff game last year, totally 475 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: butchered a third, fourth down. What do we want to do? 476 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: He got into the ear Schottenheimer, you know, just like 477 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: he's gonna be in his ear. He's gonna want some 478 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: of the things that he's gonna want. He's gonna manage 479 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: the game in ways that Sean McVeigh didn't. Very aggressive. 480 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: Matt mcflura didn't didn't have to answer to anybody because 481 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: he's the head guy. Calling the shot. So yeah, there's 482 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: even that layer too to watch transform, which, as I said, 483 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: I think burdens and heavies that sprint up the learning 484 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: curve that much more too. I don't want to use 485 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: the word pessimistic, Brock, but that did not sound like 486 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,719 Speaker 1: an overwhelming positive outlook for the Seahawks. Do you think 487 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: they're a playoff team. I think they're a playoff team. 488 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: I don't. This whole seventeen game thing just sucks, Like 489 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: I just it was so easy to say, I think 490 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 1: they're a ten win team, right right, But a ten 491 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: win team now ten and seven? Is that going to 492 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: be good enough? That probably makes playoffs? As the wild 493 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: the NFC, probably yes, Do they win the division? Do 494 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: they go like last year twelve and four? So thirteen 495 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: and four, fourteen and three? I don't. Yeah, well Aaron 496 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: Rodgers did. They went thirteen and three with the floor. 497 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: They did. But again you said Russ is not Aaron 498 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: Rodgers and then in the NFC North was not the NFC. Yeah, 499 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: that's a good point. So I want you to rank 500 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: the teams in the NFC West for me, without looking 501 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: the schedule, Let's go with this, best rosters in the 502 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: NFC West. San Francisco has got the best roster when healthy, 503 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: so they got the most top end. And obviously, you know, 504 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: if you were to put Wressell on San Francisco forty niners, 505 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: they would be Super Bowl favorites, right yeah, I think 506 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: that I think they would be. So I think that's 507 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 1: the best roster. I think the Rams and the Seahawks 508 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: are are you know right there there Dan Freendz and 509 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: A I put those two probably B plus and I 510 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: put the Cardinals at a B. You know, they've they've 511 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: it up on some veteran guys. I don't know how 512 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: how A. J. Green or J. J. Watts or even 513 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: New Compkins play seventeen games. They couldn't play sixteen the 514 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: last few years. And entropy, I do know the law 515 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: of entropy. Everything decays. Yeah, I mean you said the 516 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: word nomenclaycher. I just wrote it down to look that up, 517 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: because Brock, I mean, you're raising the level of discourse, podcasting, 518 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: firm of dynamics and entropy. What was your were your 519 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: double major or something at Washington? Goodness, gracious, jeez, I 520 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: need your NFL playbook, But I'll be hard pressed to 521 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: believe they'll stay totally healthy. They're still pretty average on 522 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: their offensive line. Um, so you know they're but they're 523 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: not a D. They're not a C. You know there 524 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: there will be the Rams and Seahawks or B plus 525 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: and I think the forty Niners are in A. I 526 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: can't argue with any of that. All right, he is 527 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 1: brock Cewed. He's calling games all season long. I mean, jeez, 528 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: it sounds like he's vocabulary. He's really strong. Uh, maybe 529 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: you're helping your kids with English and in high school. 530 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: You know all those books behind you and your little 531 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: show read three of them. I'm just trying to sound smart. 532 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: That's it, all right, Brock, Thanks Ben, and now we'll 533 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: talk to you soon. Sounds great, Jason, thanks