1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: It is Thursday, August eighth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour 2 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: and now a guy with the look of an Olympic 3 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: artistic swimmer, J. P. Chackick, and welcome in. It is 4 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on Thursday, August eighth. Preseason week one 5 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: is here. The Jaguars and the Kansas City Chiefs coming up. 6 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: And here's what's coming up on the show today, Chiefs Jaguars. 7 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: Both teams playing their starters in the first quarter, at 8 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: least we'll get to that coming up, a first chance 9 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: for the coaches to work on their operation during a game. 10 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: There is a new defensive staff this year, so who's 11 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: talking to who? At what point we'll talk a little 12 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: bit about that. The young players making their debut under 13 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: the lights for the first time in the NFL. And 14 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: we'll hear from the head coach Doug Peterson on You 15 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: Guessed at the Doug Peterson Show that's at five o'clock 16 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Radio Network, the best of his press 17 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: conference from earlier today. We're on ten to NEXL ninety 18 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: two point five FM, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube. Also 19 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: hit us on x at JP Shadwick at Logs five six. 20 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: Jeff Logoman with me now here in the Hyundai studios 21 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: of the Miller Electric Center. Good afternoon, Jeff, Good afternoon, 22 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: Good afternoon. How you doing. I'm well. Are you ready? 23 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: It's game week? Are you ready for some football? I 24 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 1: think I've heard that song before. Well is it real football? Though? Yes, 25 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: it's better than no football. The first you know, a 26 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: couple drives it will be right, well, I mean kind of, 27 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: but I mean it's not. It's not. It's not real yet, 28 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: but it's it's close enough to kind of feel the 29 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: need that you've been that itch or whatever that you've 30 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: been wanting to scratch. Scratched it an inch, So I 31 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: like it from that standpoint. I also, look, I love 32 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: this time of year just because you know, you see 33 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: a lot of new players that you've been watching throughout 34 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: the offseason, and you think you have an idea of 35 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: where they are from one watching their college film and 36 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: then two laying your eyes on them in person and 37 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: then through training camp. But until you get into a 38 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: game type situation against quality talent, Okay, on the other 39 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: side of the field, it's hard to really understand exactly 40 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: where a player is gonna fit. You might have an idea, 41 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: and the coaches might have an idea, but the reality 42 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: is you really don't until you see the lights get bright. 43 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: Chief Saguars game presented by ticket Master, the official ticket 44 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: marketplace of the Jacksonville Jaguars and the National Football League. Well, 45 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: Andy Reid said it earlier this week that he'll play 46 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: the chief starters in the first quarter or standing, which 47 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: he normally does. And Doug Peterson used to work for 48 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: Andy Reid, you might have heard, so he takes that 49 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: same idea a lot of times. And so that means 50 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: the world champs will be in town Saturday night with it. 51 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes on the field for a little bit and 52 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: some of those frontline players against the a new look 53 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: Jaguars defense and vice versa Jaguars offense, Trevor Lawrence against 54 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: that Chiefs team. Are you surprised, because I am okay, 55 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: we've seen I don't know. The fines came out from 56 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: the Detroit Giants practices, the two hundred thousand dollars fine 57 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,839 Speaker 1: for each team for fighting. Are you surprised? Andy Reid 58 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: and Doug Peterson have a relationship that goes back right 59 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: many years. Aren't you surprised that there was no practices 60 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: with the Chiefs this week leading up to the preseason game. 61 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I kind of take this 62 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: and I haven't talked to anybody about this. I'm just 63 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: spectat neither. I have just full speculation. If I'm the 64 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: world champion Chiefs, I'm not going anywhere. Why would you 65 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: go somewhere else? You know they're gonna come to us. 66 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: Good point. Maybe that's the wrong perspective. I don't know. Yeah, 67 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: And maybe they're doing it next week against another team. 68 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: I don't know they're schedule after this, so maybe they've 69 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: set it up differently. I know the Jaguars are next 70 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: week the Buccaneers. The Buccaneers and what two days of 71 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: practice and in the game. I'm looking forward to that. 72 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: That's hopefully there's no uh, there's no fighting going on. Yeah, 73 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: the league with the two hundred thousand dollars, fine, I 74 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: guarantee you that Doug Peterson is going to be having 75 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: a conversation with his football team because I know if 76 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: I'm the head coach, I don't want my pocket booklet 77 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: getting any lighter. I mean, look, I like my money. 78 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: I'd like to keep it that way, like to keep 79 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: that money in my pocket. But you know, sometimes in football, 80 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of testosterone, you know, a 81 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: lot of positioning, so to speak. You know, they got 82 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: alpha dog and alpha dog, and there can only be 83 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: one alpha dog. What's the second dog? Whoever? You figure 84 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: out who the alpha is, that's a great question. Beta 85 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: dog is that's a great question. Is that the second 86 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that. I'm gonna have 87 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: to gts it. The depth chart released for the first 88 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: time in the first game release of the season, and 89 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: we heard from defensive coordinator Ryan Nielsen this week. He 90 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: asked about the first defensive depth chart his first season 91 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: with the Jaguars, and he said, you know what, the 92 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: depth chart is etched in sand. Great line, great line, 93 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: but is it really you know what, here's the reality 94 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: the top part. No, here's the reality. The lineups are 95 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: always etched in sand in the National Football League. And 96 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: the reason why because if you've get another player who's 97 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: better than said player that's in the top of the lineup, 98 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 1: the reality is he's going to get replaced if Trevor 99 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: Lawrence all of a sudden and this is obviously just hypothetically. Here, 100 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: let's say all of a sudden, Mac Jones came in here 101 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: was just lighting it up, I mean lightening it up, 102 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: you know. And he was an undrafted guy. And Trevor Falters, 103 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: you know, has a couple of bad games, turns the 104 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: ball over all of a sudden. This other kid goes 105 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: in maybe in one of those games, and lights it up, 106 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: leads the team to the NFL's greatest comeback. I mean, 107 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: could you not maybe foresee a change. I mean, you know, 108 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: you never know. I'm just saying is that performance always 109 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: speaks louder than what the card says as far as 110 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: lineups go. But the other thing that I will point 111 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: out that Ryan Nielsen brought up and I thought that 112 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: this was I thought this was outstanding. He said that 113 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: if you have pads on on game day, we consider 114 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: you a starter and that you have to play. And 115 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: the one thing that is for certain with his defense, 116 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna roll that defensive front end waves this year. 117 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: I really believe that. You know, in the past, under 118 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: Mike Caldwell, they would have kind of the main guys 119 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: would play the bulk of the snaps and the main 120 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: guys you might consist of six or seven guys. If 121 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: there's eight or nine guys active on game day on 122 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: the defensive front. With that four to three, they're all 123 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: gonna play. They're all gonna play one hundred miles an 124 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: hour and then get out and then the next guy 125 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: go in. But the bulk of the snaps are still 126 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: going to go to a Josh and a Trayvon. Yeah, 127 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: but they're gonna roll, I think, more frequently than what 128 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: they have done in the past, and I like that. 129 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: But they're not gonna roll it like corner Tyson. Campbell's 130 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: not gonna like go out for you know, three series 131 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: in the game. You know, but Josh Allen, Josh Heinz 132 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: Allen may end up coming out for three series in 133 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: the game for somebody else. Kevin Gibson to say that, Trevis, 134 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: Trevis Gibson, Yeah, thank you. But yeah, so yeah, everybody's 135 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: gonna play, and I like that. That's what it should be. 136 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: The twenty twenty four season is almost here. You don't 137 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: want to miss the matchups this season for the Jags, 138 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: and whether you want to become a season ticket member, 139 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: catch three or more games with Bundle at the Bank, 140 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: or experience the season with prowpass. 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But I asked him today 149 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,119 Speaker 1: in his press conference about Ryan Neils a great question, 150 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: by the way, great question, would he be upstairs or downstairs? 151 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: He's like, you know, I don't know. He really thought 152 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: about that. It was awesome. But then he followed it 153 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: up with his own answer, saying that Press Taylor, as 154 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: he had answered earlier, Press Taylor will be calling plays 155 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: in the preseason, Press Taylor will be downstairs, which is 156 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: a new development. So Press Taylor will be on the 157 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: sideline calling offensive plays, and that gives them an opportunity 158 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: to make corrections a little quickly and a little more quickly, 159 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: and the adjustments will be there. So I found that 160 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: fascinating that we're two days out. What was fascinating to me. Again, 161 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: Doug does not like the question about who's calling the 162 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: right his face when I think it was Hayes Carl 163 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: I got him today. Oh he just he just gets 164 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: this like he's got a sour look on his face 165 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 1: just for a second, and then he's like, Okay, here 166 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: it is and you just swallowed a line. But I 167 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: thought he had a great answer when he talked about 168 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: and explained what it's like to be calling plays in 169 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: the booth versus on the sideline, and I thought it 170 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: was very revealing. I loved his answer. He said, you know, 171 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: when you're on the sideline. Some things that he pointed out. 172 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: I think it was like four points that he pointed out. 173 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: You can have conversations directly with the players, you can 174 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 1: feel the pulse of the game, you can make corrections immediately. 175 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: There was one other thing, and I forget what it was, 176 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: but it essentially it's a big difference, and that by 177 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: being there, you can be there. On the flip side 178 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: of that, what he didn't talk about. There's a lot 179 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: of coaches that I've talked to about why they like 180 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: being in the booth is that as a play caller, 181 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 1: you can take the emotion out of the game, and 182 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: so you detach a little and so you're watching it 183 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: from kind of that all twenty two Schematically you can 184 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: see the scheme. You're detached from the emotional part of 185 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: the game and you're just trying to make the best 186 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: call for your team. So I think there's something to 187 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: be said that there's positives and negatives on both sides 188 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: versus being in the booth and then also being on 189 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: the sideline. And this will be new for Press Taylor. 190 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: The one thing though, that you do have to have 191 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: after many conversations that I've had with coordinators that make 192 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: the calls through the years, is that they said, if 193 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: you're going to be on the sideline, you have to 194 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: have somebody that you trust, that is your eye in 195 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: the sky, that can give you the information that maybe 196 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: you would normally glean yourself from being in the booth. 197 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: And that's critical. So who would that be for Press 198 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: Taylor don't know the answers to that. I mean, they 199 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: might just be working through that, you know, because it's 200 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: the first time doing it. And same thing with Ryan Nielsen. 201 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: Now you have you know, if Ryan's on the field, 202 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: is christa Shard in the booth. I would imagine it's 203 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: gonna be one or the other. I don't know if 204 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: Christmashard would be able to stay beside himself in the booth, 205 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: like he's that kind of energy guy. He needs to 206 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: be on the field. He's the coach that wears cleats 207 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: on the practice the bottom three I think, by the way, right, 208 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: come on, so it'll be fascinating to see it. It always is. 209 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: And uh, this is the part of the year. The 210 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: preseason games are a test for some of the stuff 211 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: and if it doesn't work, they'll try it different next 212 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: week and the week after then they'll figure it out 213 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: for week one. And that's a great point. It is 214 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 1: it's a it's an exercise, it's a test. And as 215 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: a coaching staff, you think you have an idea of 216 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: maybe how you want to do things, but until you 217 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: actually touch it, feel it, execute it, then you know. 218 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: Then you make the call. But it's good, I mean, 219 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: it's good having that flexibility. And by the way, I'm 220 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: so fired up that this first preseason game is the 221 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. I mean, this is the this is 222 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: the and in the National Football League, I mean this 223 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: is two times looking to be a three peat champion. 224 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: Arguably has four of the best players at their positions 225 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: in the National Football League, and then numerous others that 226 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: are I would consider top five at their positions. I mean, 227 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: this is a great I'm gonna say it's a measuring 228 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: stick because it's a preseason game. They're not scheming for that, right, 229 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: I mean, so you can't look at the scoreboard and go, ah, 230 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: you know, we lost. For yeah, if the Jags defense 231 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: shuts out the starting Chiefs offense, you're gonna hear about it. Yes, 232 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: you know. But but again, they're not game planning. They're not. 233 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: But that's just the way it's gonna be. But what 234 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: I like about it is, and for me, it's it's 235 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: more of the film that you get from it. Okay, 236 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: so they have really good players, and so what you're 237 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: trying to do is figure out the players that you're 238 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: going to have played during the regular season. So getting 239 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: an evaluation off your players that are facing really good players, 240 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: that's what you're looking for. That's the magic of having 241 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: this matchup in the first preseason game. It's not a 242 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: matter of Okay, we scored twenty points against Kanas City, Well, 243 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: you might have scored twenty points against kan City when 244 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: they sat Chris Jones down or maybe never played him 245 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 1: at all, and they also sat a whole bunch of 246 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: other guys down and they ran one coverage for those 247 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: twenty points. I mean that some teams do that, they 248 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:29,599 Speaker 1: don't play game plan coverages as a defense and then offensively. 249 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: And here's the other reality. Ryan Nielson's got the gift 250 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: of surprise a little bit here. What's this really gonna 251 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: look like? Yeah, exactly, so you know, And I think 252 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: the depth chart kind of speaks a little bit to that, 253 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: just in my opinion. But my point of that is 254 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: is that look, he's gonna have a little bit of 255 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: an advantage for a little bit, okay, for a hot minute, 256 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: and that he can go into Week one against the 257 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins and maybe Mike McDaniel doesn't know exactly what 258 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: he's going to run as a defense as far as 259 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: personnel and what positions, what kind of coverage. Because when 260 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: you put a new staff together, even though they can 261 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: go back and they will look at your film from 262 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons, the reality is is that when you 263 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: have new coaches that come and join this guy that 264 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: came from Atlanta. There's always going to be a little 265 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: bit of a blend and a little bit of difference 266 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: from the previous stop in Atlanta. How long is a 267 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: hot minute technically in the NFL? Yeah, about a week 268 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: and a half about it. That's about I guess that's 269 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: about right, you know, because I mean once you get 270 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: it on the film, I mean, and everybody's kind of 271 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: got an idea. And you know the other thing too, 272 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: that we're looking forward to JP, and I know we're 273 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: going to get to this the kickoff stuff, you know, 274 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: the new kickoff stuff. And JP was a celebrity this week. 275 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: He was was I asking questions of uh, I mean, 276 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: I had a question I answer. It was a great question. 277 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: By the way. The former NFL official who now is 278 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: in the league office, Walt Coleman, who was an outstanding 279 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: of in the National Football League, longtime official, he did 280 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: a great job. One thing he didn't clarify that I'm 281 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: going to try to get clarified and we'll talk about 282 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: this later though. I'm going to talk to some of 283 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: the officials prior to the game, but also JP next 284 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: week when the Bucks are in town. We're going to 285 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: have the advantage of the officials are going to be 286 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: here in training camp, and so we'll be able to 287 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: have some conversations with them as well. Go get some 288 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: answers these I don't know about answers, but I love 289 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: that the league does that that they give They give 290 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: media members points of emphasis about So I mean, look, 291 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: because I mean you're getting ready to call a game 292 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: and you want to make sure that you're accurate, and 293 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: because if you're not, then I think you're doing a 294 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: disservice to the broadcast audience. Log I know you and 295 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: I have been to the Firehouse Subs in San Marco, right, 296 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: we've been there before together? Yeah, a few times? Yeah, 297 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: I think so. But if you go tomorrow from three 298 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: to four pm Friday, August ninth, a very special event. 299 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: Current Jags players, Jackson Deville and the Roar of the 300 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: Jaguars cheerleaders will be there to kick off. Come on 301 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: the thirtieth year of Jaguars football and Firehouse Subs and 302 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: Jackson Nice. I'll take a large Italian on white bread, 303 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: extra vinegar combo please, medium engineer, no onions and Dorito's 304 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: not cho I do the jalapeno chips and I can't 305 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: remember which brand it is that makes it. But I 306 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: love the Halopeeno chips and also baked barbecue laies. I 307 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: kind of go back and forth going now. My daughter 308 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: likes to straight to data chips. Miss Vicki's she no, no, 309 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: I can't remember what they're called. Oh wow, my daughter 310 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: gets the boring turkey sandwich with wheat and cheese. And 311 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: that's it. Okay, go check out the Jaguars at Firehouse tomorrow. 312 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: Order some food while you're there. This is tenon Xcel 313 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: ninety two point five FM and this is Jaguars appiout. 314 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 2: They do a lot of things together, you know, they're families. 315 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 2: And I do think that there's the more you spend 316 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,479 Speaker 2: time with people, this is why I do things like 317 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 2: in the off season with the team. The more we 318 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 2: can do things together and share experiences together, I think 319 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 2: it just becomes stronger bond, you know, with individuals and 320 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: with your you know, with your teammates, and you begin 321 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: to sort of understand the other person a little bit more, 322 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 2: how they think and and and it's you know, it 323 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 2: shows up on the field. 324 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: Set coach Doug Peterson earlier today, More from the head 325 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: coach coming up at five o'clock on the Doug Peterson Show. 326 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadwick, Jeff Logman ten to 327 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: Excel ninety two point five FM. 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So how's he gonna buy 337 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: all this stuff? Well, it's the technology these days. I 338 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: bet it's got its own you know, Zell account. You 339 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: can do whatever you want, all right. Hey. By the way, 340 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: the Doug comment there about team building things and the 341 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: question that he answered there was more about Christian Kirk 342 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence and then it morphed into more of 343 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: a team answer. But the connection between teammates, yes, and 344 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: just a real quick thing like in the off season, 345 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 1: Doug Doug does a great job with this and that 346 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: they do team building things. For example, they've done paintball. 347 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: This past offseason, they did a bowling thing to where 348 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: they went to the bowling lanes and had a full 349 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: blown competition. And I know that the Jaguars, the Hunt 350 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: Cisco was kind of big into that and was trying 351 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: to act like he was a good bowler, but he 352 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: was really not a good bowler. Really. Yeah, it didn't 353 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: look very good. He didn't have very good form. But 354 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: but you know, look Trevor, I'm sure he was dressed 355 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: well though. That's fine, He's always That's what I'm saying. 356 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: That's fine. Yeah, but the relationship between Trevor and Christian 357 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: is pretty unique and special. I mean, these guys play 358 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,479 Speaker 1: golf together, their neighbors, their wives and themselves get together, 359 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: and I mean that's a that's a that's a pretty 360 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: big deal. And and you can tell that the relationship 361 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: is strong just to why the way that those two 362 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: the way they connect on the field, you can tell 363 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: that those two guys they got something. And at some 364 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: point you'd like to say that Gabe has kind of 365 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: something similar. And I'm not saying they need to be 366 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: the best of friends off the field. But the more 367 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: that you can build that relationship off the field, I 368 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: think the more the relationship, the stronger it is to 369 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: weather tough times when you're on the field, whether it's 370 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: Gabe Davis or Brian Thomas Junior. Now Brian Thomas Junior 371 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: is gonna have to come out of a show a 372 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: little bit. My question is how long does that take? 373 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: I mean for a rookie especially, but even Gabe Davis, 374 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,239 Speaker 1: a guy who's been in the league. You can go 375 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: work it all off season and everything, but you don't 376 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: really know until the season gets you right. Yeah, well, 377 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: but I mean, look that they're putting in the work now, 378 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: Gabe Davis and Trevor Lawrence and Brian Thomas. So I 379 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: think does it take more of regular season stuff? Sure 380 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: it does. It. The more you get, the better you're 381 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: gonna be. But with Gabe Davis, he's had a lot 382 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: of snaps with a really good quarterback in Buffalo, so 383 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: I think the time that it takes to develop that 384 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: relationship is much less than it's going to be with 385 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: a Brian Thomas junior. Gave Davis is a total pro 386 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: by the way, total total pro. Some of the things 387 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: that he does when you watch the film on him, 388 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: and I'm not talking about just in practice, but watching 389 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: him in the past when he has been in Buffalo, 390 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: the little things that he does to get open down 391 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: the field are amazing. He's crafty, incredibly crafty. He is 392 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: a great compliment to this offense. And I said this before, 393 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it again. If I had a choice 394 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: between Gabe Davis and Calvin Ridley and the money's equal, 395 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: I'm taking Gabe Davis in this offense just because he's 396 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: somebody different. And by the way that you hear Trevor 397 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: lauding Parker Washington today and this press conference, absolutely okay, 398 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: Parker Washington's another reason why he didn't need a Calvin Ridley. 399 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: Parker Washington is going to be a good football player 400 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: for this team. I think this wide receiver group is 401 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: going to be really interesting to watch. The part that's 402 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to watch for me is last year 403 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: in the preseason, Elijah Cooks was I think the highest 404 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: rated player according to PFF in the preseason, which okay, 405 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: it's PFF, and but the reality is other teams are 406 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: going to notice that where does he fit? Where does 407 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: he fit? Where does Tim Jones fit? Tim Jones a 408 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: good special teams player, really good special teams player. Once 409 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: you get passed four guys, that fifth guy, he's got 410 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: a ball on teams now, I mean he's got to 411 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: be really good on special teams. Ken Ken Elijah Cooks 412 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: be that guy special team and break through that. Yeah, 413 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: it's a good question. I don't see him being better 414 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: than Tim Jones. Gabe Davis, Christian Kirk, Brian Thomas Junior, 415 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: Devin DuVernay four. Yeah, and DuVernay's kind of a little 416 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: bit of that. Uh. I guess it's similar to thirty 417 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: nine last year. Jamal Agnow he has but he's more 418 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: of a polished receiver than a and he's going to 419 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: be active on game day because he can play special team. 420 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: He's a returner. Right, So that's four. That means you 421 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: got two spots left for Parker Washington's five. He ain't 422 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: go anywhere. And then so there's really one spot if 423 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: you're keeping sings, and that one's got to be special teams. 424 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: Got to be a special team. Tim Jones is the 425 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: kind of the incumbent in that role. Tim Jones does 426 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: a great job on teams. I mean, it's just you 427 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: can't ignore that. I mean, can you imagine going to 428 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: your coaches and saying, you know, hey, you know, look, 429 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: I get it, Luke and Heath. You know that you 430 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: guys want to have you know, Tim Jones, but you 431 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: know we're thinking about keeping somebody else who's not as good. 432 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, that doesn't work for me, right, because 433 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: the time he's going to see the field in theory 434 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: is special teams. Yes, all the receivers are healthy and going. 435 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: And for example, and I think you bring up a 436 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: great point. Okay, let's let's focus in on Elijah Cooks 437 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: here for a minute, not to be critical of him, 438 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: but if he's going to be active on game day 439 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: as a wide receiver, who was he going to replace? Yeah, 440 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: Gabe Davis, who you're sitting down, not gonna be gay. 441 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: It would have to be an injury situation exactly. So 442 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: I think he's one of those guys that, barring an injury, 443 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: between now and the final cuts, you almost don't want 444 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: to get a whole lot of snaps in the preseason 445 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: so you can slip them onto the practice squad. Came 446 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: over there, What do you need to see out of 447 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior. What would be an ideal first preseason 448 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: game for the first round pick. I want them to 449 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: just I want to I want to see that he 450 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: knows where he's supposed to be and that there's a 451 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: little bit of chemistry starting to build with Trevor. The 452 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: one thing I think with a young player that's still learning, 453 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: a lot of times, it's hard to play fast, and 454 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: one of the greatest assets that Brian has is that 455 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: he's fast. It's hard to play fast when you're thinking. 456 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: And I think the more that he learns, the speed 457 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: that he has and the speed that he showed at 458 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: LSU will become more prevalent, more visible. But in the 459 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: first preseason again, I want to see him, Yep, Number one, 460 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: stay healthy. Number two, get a couple of balls, you know, 461 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: one to let him gain some confidence, to let him 462 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: kind of move past that hurt. Okay, you know, all right, 463 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: now I've maybe a couple of catches in the National 464 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: Football League. Okay, now let's just get to work instead 465 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: of you know, if he doesn't get a couple of balls, 466 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: he still had that anxiety of maybe getting that first 467 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: one or the first couple. So I just want to 468 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: see him get a couple of balls and look good 469 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: and stay healthy. It's felt to me the last week 470 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: or so we've seen more of him making catches in 471 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: training camp practice. Yes, the first week was a little quiet. Well. 472 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: He talked about how he's getting more comfortable. The way 473 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: to get more comfortable is just throw the ball to him. 474 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: I think they I think they press him a little 475 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: bit and I think you got to see him play. 476 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: The one thing I will say about him, and one 477 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: of the biggest adjustments in the National Football League for 478 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 1: wide receivers is is the detail of route running. It's 479 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: and a lot of people don't think about this because 480 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: people think of wide receivers where they get the ball 481 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: thrown to them, they catch it, and then they just 482 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: run down the fields. There's an intricate, intricate amount of 483 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: details to route running which enables the windows to be bigger. 484 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: I think that's something that's going to take some time 485 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: to develop with him because in college a lot of 486 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: times these guys that can just fly like Brian, they fly, okay, 487 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: it's not the intricate details. Like Gabe Davis is a 488 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: crafty right, I was talking about him earlier, So I 489 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: think it will take a little bit of time. But 490 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 1: he's a smart guy. He's hard working, he's been there 491 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: every day. I like his work ethic. But I can't 492 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: wait to see him go route, take off with maybe 493 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: a little utter go or something like that, because he 494 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,719 Speaker 1: can fly. I mean he can he can roll roll roll. 495 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: Watching him at LSU, that's all you had to do there. Well, 496 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: who's the other guy? Who's the other guy that was 497 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: there with him that got drafted higher than him. We've 498 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: had a couple of waves of guys come through there. 499 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: There's been like it been wide receiver you it seems 500 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: like but the guy that he was with his past 501 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: year got drafted ahead of him, and I might have 502 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: taken Brian over him. Was Washing, Yeah, he was at Washington. 503 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: It's the other one anyway. P r I Productions, the 504 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 1: official event production company of the Jags, has everything you 505 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: need to bring your next idea to life. Visit pr 506 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: I productions dot com. When we were turn logs Jaguars Defense, 507 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: we have heard of Josh heinz Allen and Trayvon Walker. 508 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: What's after that? What is that second wave of pass rushers? 509 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: Great question. We'll get into that when we come back 510 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: and Shagars Happy Hour. 511 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 3: I feel like it's me great. We're playing for straight 512 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 3: four and I feel like with me playing with my 513 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 3: hand in the dirt, I feel a lot more explosive 514 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 3: and I feel like I can just play ball now. 515 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: You can miss any part of dropping in the coverage. 516 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 3: Oh I mean no, no, not at all. But I 517 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 3: mean the more you can do, the more the better. 518 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 3: So whatever my. 519 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: Teams need, it's Trayvon Walker form. We're number one overall. 520 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: Pick Welcome back a Shaguars Happy Hour from the Honday 521 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: Studios at the Miller Electric Center, JP Shadrick with Jeff 522 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: Logoman on ten jen XL ninety two point five FM, 523 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube at JP Shadrick at logs 524 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: five to six on x Pass Rush. By the way, 525 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: Trayvon's getting a lot better watching him in practice. How 526 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: so he's he's really doing a good job of working 527 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: the edges of the of the offensive tackles and offensive 528 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: line because there the rub against him was that he 529 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: was running between the numbers of the tackle and not 530 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: having any moves. He was just a bullrush trying to 531 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: be a power bull rush guy. But and you know, 532 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: and he's strong enough that he can do that at times. 533 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: But look, everybody's stronger when you have a guy off balance. 534 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: You know Reggie White, which his name came up with 535 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson today. We'll talk to him about that at 536 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: some point. But Reggie was one of the strongest guys 537 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: to ever play in the National Football League. But his 538 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: legendary hump that he had was so damaging because he 539 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: always had them running an off balance and then the 540 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: power that he showed was because he had them off balance. 541 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,239 Speaker 1: It wasn't that they were expecting to get humped and 542 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: that they could stop it. Like Larry Allen was like, 543 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: you know what, I've got him stopped and then got 544 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: thrown in the air like he was off balance, off 545 00:29:55,240 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: got thrown. So the great players, strong players like Trayvon, 546 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: find a way to keep the offensive lineman off balance 547 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: so that when they go to the strength, the strength 548 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: is really good, really good. And part of his problem 549 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: has been as a young player sometimes you got to 550 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: learn that because in college you can overpower guys at 551 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: this level. That doesn't work all the time, if hardly 552 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: at all. And so he's doing a really good job 553 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: of staying on the edges of guys in camp, and 554 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: you can really see that he is staying at tent 555 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: of to that because in the one on one pass 556 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: rush period, he's trying different things to stay on the edge, 557 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: and I love it. Instead of reverting back to I'm 558 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: going to overpower this guy and go down the middle 559 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: on him again, He's continuing to work it and that's 560 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: what I love about him. Trayvon has got great work ethic. 561 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: I mean, this team has two guys and Josh and Trayvon, 562 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: that have an incredible work ethic. And it's awesome to 563 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: have two guys that because it's going to be a 564 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: naturally competitive situation between the two of it, two of them, 565 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: and it's going to make both of them better. The 566 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: conversation you're referencing, Doug Peterson this week was asked about 567 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: on The Rich Eisen Show, which player does Josh heines 568 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: Allen remind you of when it comes to work ethic, 569 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: and Doug Peterson mentioned Reggie White, which is an amazing compliment. 570 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: We've been saying for a number of years about how 571 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: good of a guy that Josh heines Allen is in 572 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: the locker room. But also, I mean just one of 573 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: the highest quality guys. You could ever have a foundational 574 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: building block character guy for this organization. And that's it's 575 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: high praise because you know, Reggie White was one of 576 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: the great all time leaders in the history of the 577 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: National Football League. I'm talking big time. Like if you 578 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: surveyed some of the Hall of Fame players and said, 579 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: give me a top ten all time leadership list, I 580 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: think Reggie White's on that list. And Doug is talking 581 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: about Josh Heines Allen in the same breath as Reggie White. 582 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: I mean, that's incredibly high praise, incredibly high praise. And 583 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: here's the thing, you know what, I love it. It's 584 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: a great learning lesson I think for team building and 585 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: that let's go back to the beginning point of Josh's 586 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: career in the National Football League. He comes here and 587 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: he's got who kalais Campbell correct as a mentor? Yes, 588 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: it just to me. It goes to show you the 589 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: importance of having those foundational building block, high character guys 590 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: to raise that next generation so that they can be 591 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: that for the generation after them. And so it's important 592 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: that you have one of those guys, I think in 593 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: every position group, so to speak. And the more you 594 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: can have. If you can have two awesome, great, but 595 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: I think it's hard and it makes it very difficult 596 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: if you have a young room as a whole and 597 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: you don't have any of the veteran leadership. If that's 598 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: the case, then I think you have to have a 599 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: very strong coach as far as leadership goes, because he 600 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: has to provide that for that position group if they 601 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: don't have one of those type of players like Claus 602 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: or what Josh is now or what Reggie White was 603 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,479 Speaker 1: back in the day. Looking for the MVP of the 604 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: truck game, better check out the twenty twenty four Ford 605 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: F one fifty. Loaded with impressive capability and game changing tech. 606 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: You can dominate, workplay and everything in between. Test drive 607 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: an F one fifty at your local Ford dealer. Proud 608 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: partner of the Jacksonville Jaguars Jaguars Happy Hour continuing on 609 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: ten ten XL ninety two point five FM, Jaguars dot Com, 610 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: Jaguars YouTube JP Shadrick with Jeff Flagman. Well, we've discussed 611 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: Josh Heinz Allen of course, and Trayvon Walker, but you 612 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: mentioned Earl. You're about the defensive line wanting to play 613 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: in waves this year more so than in the recent past. 614 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: So my question is what did the Jaguars have after 615 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: those two at the pass rushing edge position. The first guy, 616 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: I think, the next guy up right now is Trevis Gibson, 617 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 1: who they signed in free agency from the Tennessee Titan. 618 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 1: Has been a little bit of a journeyman. I think 619 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 1: he's got he's got a really good motor, really good motor. 620 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: He's got some pass rush ability. If you look at 621 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: all of the guys that have been I think pass 622 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: rushing in one on one is the win rate. He's 623 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: probably right there behind Josh and Trayvon. Who's next after that? 624 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: I think there's there's an interesting question. Remember they drafted 625 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: your Sir Abdullah for a true kind of three four 626 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: outside linebacker. Yeah, and he's he's kind of cross training, 627 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: so he's playing the sam linebacker position it seemed like. 628 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: And then he's also doing some pass rush, so he 629 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: could be a guy that could have kind of a 630 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:06,240 Speaker 1: dual role. He's got he's still you know, going against 631 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: some of those higher tackles. When I say higher tackles, 632 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: if he goes up against seventy two or seventy four, 633 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: which you know, you walk a little Cam Robinson, Anton Harrison. 634 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: You know, he's not having the success rate that you 635 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: know Josh or Tremon is having or even Trevis. So 636 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 1: he's I think he's still a ways away now. Sean 637 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 1: Dixon was a guy who, by the way, had an 638 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 1: ACL injury and is going to be lost for the season. 639 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: Was waved injured. If nobody claims him, he's going to 640 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: revert to IR, which is that nobody's gonna claim him. 641 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: And he was kind of competing for that role. And 642 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: so now with his injury, now you have a position 643 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: to fill on your roster that you would like to 644 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: find somebody that can maybe compete for that role. The 645 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 1: Jaguars ended up signing a guy that was the UFL 646 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year, Breally Speaks, who is a 647 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: second round pick of the Chiefs. I think back in 648 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: eighteen correct didn't really have a great career watch I 649 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: remember watching him when he was with kan City and 650 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 1: very unimpressive. Ended up having substance abuse issues, was suspended 651 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 1: by the league four games I think in nineteen and 652 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: then bounced around to about four or five different teams, 653 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: but never played another game after that point and has 654 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: been out of the league since so. But I mean, 655 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: if he's a second round pick of the Chiefs or 656 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: any team for that matter, there's some talent there, shouldn't 657 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: he And there's some traits there. Here's the question with 658 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: the substance abuse issues obviously probably impeded some of the 659 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: performance that they expected out of him in Kan City. 660 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: Is he over that? Has he matured? You know, you'd 661 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: like to think, Okay, here's a guy that's matured. He 662 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: had nine and a half sacks at the UFL level. 663 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: Is it the same type of tackles you're rushing against 664 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: in the NFL. No, but good pass rushes are hard 665 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: to find. And if he can give you a boost 666 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: and he's not going to be, you know, an issue 667 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: in the locker room, then you know, give him a chance. 668 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: You know, there's nothing wrong with giving guys second chances 669 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: as long as you have the intel that tells you 670 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: that they are not. I was going to use a 671 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 1: bad word, a detriment to the locker room. There you go, 672 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: that's a better word. I think I knew where you 673 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 1: were going. That was dog poop and the D Yeah, yeah, fine, 674 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: you could have said it. It's not a bad that's 675 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: not a bad word. I don't think so, turd. You 676 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: just said it, all right, you you said I could 677 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: do it, save it. So if I get in trouble, 678 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: it's your fault. Hey, it's yours whatever, man, So I 679 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 1: get it. So my final question about this for you, 680 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: this past rush situation. Are you comfortable with the depth 681 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: of it? Or is there still work to be done? Well, 682 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: I want to see our garb Stead back, right. I mean, 683 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: he hasn't touched the field. I don't know when he will. 684 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: You know, the one of the big free agent signings 685 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: that they got from the San Francisco forty nine ers. 686 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: He's you know, he's six foot six, two hundred and 687 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: ninety pounds, he's a he's a gigantic presence in the middle. 688 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: He's going to be an interior pass rusher. You So, 689 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: I want to see him out there, and we may 690 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: not see him at all in the preseason, but at 691 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: some point he's got to start practicing. And uh but okay, 692 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: let's say he's fine and he's the same Eric Armstead 693 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,359 Speaker 1: that we've seen in the past for the forty nine ers, 694 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: and he's playing well, who, Well, there's got to be 695 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: another guy. Well, Devon Hamilton seems to be showing some 696 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 1: signs that he's getting back as a pass rusher. Yeah. Well, 697 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,839 Speaker 1: most accounts, he's been playing really well in practice. Yeah, 698 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: there's some things though that he's still got a show. 699 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,439 Speaker 1: Look you gotta he still got a ways to go yet. 700 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,240 Speaker 1: In my opinion, I think he's shown some really good things. 701 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: I'm not negative on it at all. I just think 702 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: that they're still little ways to go for him. Mason 703 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: Smith unblockable, really unblockable, the Jaguar second round pick out 704 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: of LSU. I use the word p the P word 705 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: with him when after the draft I said he's a 706 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: guy who's got potential. Sometimes that word is terrible because 707 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,919 Speaker 1: it means that it wasn't necessarily the other P word, 708 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: which is productive. There's a lot of P words. Those 709 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: are two of them. The uh, but unblockable is quite 710 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: a statement. I'm just telling you. He's a rookie, just 711 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,399 Speaker 1: telling and he's unblockable on the first knocking on wood. 712 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 1: Let me give myself a speeding pass or speeding ticket. 713 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,919 Speaker 1: Slow down a little bit. He has been unblockable at 714 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: times in one on one pass rushka. He's long, they 715 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 1: can't get their arms on him. He's got an outstanding 716 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: swim move, he's got power, he plays the game with 717 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: lean hmm. I mean, I'm trying not to sound and 718 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 1: I'm trying not to get too excited. No you're not. 719 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: You think you're overflowing with excitement saying it's uneka. He 720 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: has been an absolute joy to watch, joy to watch 721 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: two weeks of practice. Let's go see it in some games. 722 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I'm giving myself a speeding ticket here. 723 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 1: You are rowing down. It's like you're going down three 724 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:29,919 Speaker 1: to one headed towards Gainesville. Coming of Chris Jones, I'm 725 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 1: just saying that he has looked really good, really good. 726 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 1: And he works hard too. He works really hard. And 727 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 1: and by the way, yeah, he had the aco at 728 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 1: L s U in ear and then last year he 729 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: was coming back and he was gimpy a little bit 730 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,959 Speaker 1: for the season. Watching him on film, I don't see 731 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,280 Speaker 1: any gippiness out of him right now. And he played 732 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: inside last year. He was outside two years ago. And 733 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: that's he have a change. He's and he's gonna be 734 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 1: an interior pass rusher. You put him on some of 735 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: these guards that are six foot two and a half 736 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: six foot three and he's six foot six, six foot seven, 737 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,439 Speaker 1: whatever he is, and got arms that are probably forty 738 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: inch for leave length. Good luck blocking him. We're back 739 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 1: in a moment injury report, our final thoughts, and then 740 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: at five o'clock it's the Doug Peterson Show. This is 741 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. We're back Jaguars Happy Hour from the 742 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: Hyundai Studios at the Miller Electric Center on Tenson XL 743 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 1: ninety two point five FM, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube 744 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: JP Shadwick with Jeff Logman. It's preseason week one, the 745 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: Jaguars and the world champion Chiefs coming up this Saturday night, 746 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: seven o'clock. Jags fans want customized Jags furniture for your home. 747 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: Check out zipchare dot com and browse all customizable options 748 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 1: ZIP Chair furniture for fans. Wow, this sounds good to say. 749 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,720 Speaker 1: Preseason week one, of course, Chiefs coming up game sponsored 750 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 1: by Ticketmaster. Excited for that because yeah, it's gonna be great. 751 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 1: Let's get logs microphone out. What do you think the 752 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 1: chances of Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelcey, and Chris Jones all played? 753 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 1: If he said starters, maybe I mean playing what a drive. 754 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,479 Speaker 1: I don't know if I put Chris Jones out there, 755 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if I put Kelsey out there either. 756 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: To think of it, I wouldn't either. I mean, I'd 757 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 1: bubble wrap those guys. But that's just me. But Andy 758 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: Reeve's had a different philosophy. The quarterback, you can always 759 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 1: kind of game plan to protect. Yeah, get it out 760 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: of here, yeah, hand the ball off a couple of times, 761 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,359 Speaker 1: you know, three step balls out of his hands quick 762 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: so he doesn't get touched. Okay, Well, tight end defensive 763 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 1: tackles a little different. You know, it gets a little 764 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 1: bit loud where they're at sometimes. Yeah, and you know 765 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: that those three are those are three guys that are 766 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 1: the best at theirsition in the National Football League. Remember 767 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,800 Speaker 1: trying to block Jones here last year? Poor Anton kidding me. 768 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 1: Not a great job by the Jacks coaches doing justin that. 769 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, but those Would you agree that 770 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 1: those three guys are the best at their position in 771 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 1: the National Football League at quarterback, defensive tackle, and tight end, Well, 772 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, yeah. Could you make an argument that 773 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,720 Speaker 1: they're not? You could make an argument for like Kittle 774 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 1: at tight end? Okay, from a from a past catching 775 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: tight end standpoint. But you could make that better with you. 776 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,839 Speaker 1: Here's another guy that I would put up in there 777 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: is the best at his position right now. Because of 778 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,919 Speaker 1: the retirement of Travis Kelcey. I'd put the center Creed 779 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 1: Humphrey up there. Of his brother Kelsey, Jason, Jason Kelsey, 780 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: thank you breaking news, Travis, But I would put Creed 781 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 1: Humphrey right up there at the top arguably is the 782 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 1: best center in the National Football Okay, well, Devon Hamilton 783 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 1: nose tackle up against it. It's a great it's a 784 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: great test, great test. Let's go the guard to his left, 785 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 1: Joe Tooney. I would put him in the top five 786 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 1: guards left guard certainly in the National Football League. I mean, 787 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 1: they've got some really really good players on this football team, 788 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 1: which is what you want to have is a measuring 789 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 1: stick to kind of compare your players too. I got 790 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: to protect that asset back there in the quarterback. That's 791 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 1: how fifteen is something else now And by the way, 792 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 1: for people that don't know, will be a little bit 793 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: of a reunion of sorts. Carson Wentz, the backup quarterback 794 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: of the Kansas City Chiefs. About that, Doug Peterson and 795 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz kind of also, by the way, just kind 796 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 1: of along those lines, Nick Foles announced his retirement. It's 797 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 1: a lot of like kind of news around all though. Yeah, 798 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 1: so that's kind of the you know, going back to 799 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 1: the Eagle Super Bowl win when Doug was a coach, 800 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 1: he was there. They have a statue in fact, he 801 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 1: and Nick Foles together. Cool outside of the stadium. Is 802 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: that where Rocky statue is at. Not at the art museum, 803 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: It's at the stadium. That's that's the statue. The Liberty 804 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 1: bells pretty good too, but that counts. I think that qualified. 805 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 1: That's the top, by the way, every one time for 806 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,880 Speaker 1: the injury report presented by Baptist Health, changing healthcare for 807 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,439 Speaker 1: good well. Doug Peterson today discussed some players who will 808 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,839 Speaker 1: not be available for Saturday's game. Ezra Cleveland with a 809 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,320 Speaker 1: heel issue. The left guard will not play. Seems to 810 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 1: be trending the right way, just really more of a 811 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: precaution not put him out there. He's done some individual 812 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 1: drills lately, so that's good. Anton Harrison, right tackle, coming 813 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,240 Speaker 1: off the concussion protocol. They'll hold him out as a precaution. 814 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,360 Speaker 1: On seventhy haven't seen him. He was around today, he 815 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,439 Speaker 1: had like an arm jersey on was walking around first time, 816 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 1: so that's good. Just step in the right direction to 817 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 1: get him back on the field. It's part of the 818 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,879 Speaker 1: protocol to have him at least out although he's been 819 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,880 Speaker 1: really good in camp. Yeah, and and and and just 820 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 1: real quick on him. What he played with last year, 821 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 1: which was a significant shoulder injury. And Tom Harris tough 822 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 1: as nails. Tough as nails, love him, love him for 823 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 1: what he was able to do last year. Love him. 824 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 1: So expect Walker Little to get some time at right 825 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 1: tackle and Blake Hants probably will be the left guard 826 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 1: on Saturday Night. Probably. He's had a like an elbow 827 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 1: thing on recently the last few days which he didn't 828 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,920 Speaker 1: have on early on, and he's he's been having a 829 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: good camp as well. Another player who will not go 830 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: on Saturday running back Keillan Robinson tow issue. We have 831 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,880 Speaker 1: not seen him in pads yet. And for a rookie 832 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 1: who's looking for a spot, especially a kick returner kind 833 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 1: of special teams, which is jp availability. You can't make 834 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 1: the club in the tub, correct, So he will not play. 835 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 1: Stephen Jones offensive lineman with a calf issue will not play. 836 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 1: Rookie defensive tackle Jordan Jefferson from LSU with an ankle 837 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 1: issue will be held out. Andrew Wingard, Well, just real quick, 838 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 1: just before you go to Winger, Jordan Jefferson, you there's 839 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,319 Speaker 1: an example that you might be able to make the 840 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 1: club in the tub. Oh he's gonna make it. Okay, 841 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,399 Speaker 1: pretty good. But just with Kevin Robinson, you know, fifth 842 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 1: round pick, and you know they got running backs. Yes, yeah, 843 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 1: Andrew Winger has been out for a little bit with 844 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,799 Speaker 1: a knee issue. No word on how long that could go. 845 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 1: All the word the words were from Doug. It's gonna 846 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 1: be a while. It's not a good sign. Right. That 847 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,319 Speaker 1: means Andre Cisco has taken over. You know he was 848 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 1: starting safety anyway. But remember Wingard was very involved on 849 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 1: special teams. Personal protector on punt PP. Andre Sisko is 850 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,839 Speaker 1: doing that. Is that p word again? The double there 851 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 1: is another there's personal protector. But with Winger also, let's 852 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,879 Speaker 1: not forget some of the flexibility that they had last 853 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 1: year with him in the nickel and dime packages. So 854 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,959 Speaker 1: I mean it hurts definitely not having him out there. 855 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 1: But the emergence and again I've been tooting his horn 856 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,240 Speaker 1: since last year. Antonio Johnson is a really good football player, 857 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 1: really good football player. Darnold Savage will not play shoulder issue, 858 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 1: and as you mentioned before, Eric Armstead still on physically 859 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 1: unable to perform, so with a knee issue is out. 860 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 1: Shaun Dixon acl going through the waiver process now, and 861 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 1: Patrick Murtag still on the roster with that ankle fracture. 862 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 1: So international players. Fortunately, by the way, the Chiefs have 863 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 1: two international players. Don't remember exactly, but I was putting 864 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 1: the roster of the game board together and I saw 865 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 1: that they had two. Doug Peterson show is coming up 866 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,360 Speaker 1: next five o'clock, No coaching studio. We're gonna have the 867 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 1: best of his press conference today. There was a lot 868 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 1: to come out of that press conferences. It was about 869 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 1: a fifteen minute press conference. Yeah, and so a lot 870 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 1: of news to come out of that. And we'll hear 871 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 1: from Jaguars rookie defensive tackle Mason Smith. I caught up 872 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 1: with him earlier this week. You'll get to hear from 873 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,279 Speaker 1: your favorite new Jaguar. I love him. I love him, 874 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,920 Speaker 1: And there's real quick just a little bit of a 875 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 1: I guess to curb the enthusiasm a little bit because 876 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 1: I got them. Okay, unblockable in one on ones. Ah Okay, 877 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,279 Speaker 1: And when you play defensive tackle and you pass rush 878 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 1: as a defensive tackle, your head's in your bet. No, 879 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:34,359 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I hear the beeping. You don't get 880 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 1: those one on one opportunities all the time, but they 881 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,239 Speaker 1: do happen. You're backing off that hot Tay has been 882 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:45,920 Speaker 1: unblockable in one on one. We'll return with Jaguars Radio 883 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:50,719 Speaker 1: Network coverage of the Doug Peterson Show. Thanks to Joe Fortunado, 884 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,239 Speaker 1: Brent Reeber, our entire crew for Jeff Flagman. I'm j P. 885 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 1: Shadwick and thanks for listening to Jaguars Happy Hour.