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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast. The season's feel longer and longer.

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Speaker 1: They do because they are from the Chris Westling podcast studio.

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Speaker 1: It's Around the NFL. Um Dan Hansas Heroes here, Greg Rosenthal,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, what is up? Men? Yeah, this used to

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Speaker 1: be the last week of the season. Now it's the

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Speaker 1: second to last. Our calendars are off. But there. I

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Speaker 1: heard a theory this week that I like that the

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Speaker 1: second to last week of the season's the best week

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Speaker 1: of the season. It's when the most things are decided.

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Speaker 1: I have something from the research and notes, Mark, I'll

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Speaker 1: tee you up on this. Despite Bill's Bengals being the

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Speaker 1: only game where both teams are currently in playoff position,

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Speaker 1: fifteen of six team games have direct playoff implications where

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Speaker 1: at least one team can still make the playoffs, win

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Speaker 1: a division title, earn a higher seed, or clinch a

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Speaker 1: playoff by but has not done so yet. Arizona Atlanta

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Speaker 1: is the only game that does not qualify. I think

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Speaker 1: there is a tangible difference from when we started this show,

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Speaker 1: and I mean, obviously this is what the league wanted.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that this is like the exact thing

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Speaker 1: they wanted, where a lot of these teams are alive

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Speaker 1: because there aren't Titanic kind of dynasties hanging out there

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Speaker 1: at this point. But in the past, we would have

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Speaker 1: four or five games in a week like this where

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Speaker 1: both sides were sort of trash bag operations, and that's

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Speaker 1: just not the case with any one of these games.

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Speaker 1: But one well said Mark, and I feel like some

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Speaker 1: of these teams, like remember when you're a kid and

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Speaker 1: you have like, um, someone sleeps over at your house,

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Speaker 1: still in my living room eating my food. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: like um. And then the kid is like, hey, why

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Speaker 1: don't we do another sleepover? Like I know, how about

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Speaker 1: you get your mom over here? Friendships? Fine, Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: just need a little let's refresh, let's breathe a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Should we get into the games before talking about Greg

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Speaker 1: Rosenthal's jobs. In mock Turtleneck, it's riding a little high

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Speaker 1: right up there? Is that a mock turtleneck, a mock

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Speaker 1: It's like bunching up or something. Yeah, I mean it's

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Speaker 1: that time of years. I feel like he's going to

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have regrets about being a bad dad to

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Speaker 1: like my first child. Damn Steve Jobs taking fire. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's get to it, as we always do, we start

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Speaker 1: with the primetime games before we get to our draft.

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Speaker 1: First up, Sunday Night Football. Pittsburgh Steelers seven and eight,

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Speaker 1: but not your typical seven and eight. They are a

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Speaker 1: seven and eight team feeling itself right now, and they

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Speaker 1: go to Baltimore to get the Ravens here ten and five.

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Speaker 1: Ravens have clinched a playoff spot. Um, they're still trying

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Speaker 1: to win the a f C North, so they have

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Speaker 1: a lot to play for here. But regg it is

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Speaker 1: the Steelers that have been coming on in recent weeks,

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Speaker 1: and this feels like it's going to be a close game,

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Speaker 1: doesn't it. I think so. It was just a month

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Speaker 1: That was the game where Kenny Pickett started immediately got

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Speaker 1: expect this to be a similar game where it's sixteen

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Speaker 1: ceilings a little lower than Drabinsky, but his floor is higher.

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Speaker 1: And it's gonna be hard for either of these teams

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Speaker 1: and Ravens, so even though they've both been running well,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough in this game. And I feel

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Speaker 1: like the team that can run and ends up winning. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: get on. The Packers is a team that annoys you

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Speaker 1: They were celebrated for zigging when everyone else was zagging.

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Speaker 1: that they're they're buildings towards something. They have a lot

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins beat the Patriots, check your later, Steelers, but

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Speaker 1: these Monday night games don't carry as much heat now

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Speaker 1: They're gonna do, as Mike Francesco say, a huge number,

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Speaker 1: parody there. There's not great teams because is like trending

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Speaker 1: and around Robin here. If this game goes the Bengals way,

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Speaker 1: you could see a rematch in the divisional round and

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Speaker 1: this game would be just to have home field. I

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Speaker 1: have a hard time picking between Josh Allen and Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow right now because you think it's Burrow who's a

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Speaker 1: little more consistent. But Josh Allen's running is so incredible.

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Speaker 1: expect it to be a one score game to come down?

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Speaker 1: And then right, and so who's picking against the Vikings

429
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 1: at the end of a game. I'm not. I'm like,

430
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna find a way to get it done. In

431
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 1: the Packers, despite the wind streak, will find a way

432
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 1: to blow it. That's how the past three games and

433
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,480
Speaker 1: freezing weather three and oh these little stats about Kirk

434
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,639
Speaker 1: Cousins vanishes and disappears in some of these areas of

435
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 1: football football environment. Not this year. It's really really funny

436
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,680
Speaker 1: if they wind up going fourteen and three and holding

437
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 1: onto this too. See, forty Niners are just like every

438
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 1: week like are you kidding me? And I also, you

439
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 1: gotta you have to now at least open your mind

440
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 1: to the possibility that, in spite of all the football

441
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 1: history and sports history where it's so clear where a

442
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,640
Speaker 1: team is due to regress in a certain category or overall,

443
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 1: maybe they just do this the entire season, right, that's

444
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 1: for the different team next season where none of this

445
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,880
Speaker 1: happens to them. I don't know, it's weird. They were

446
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 1: playing these close games a year ago, in the year

447
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 1: before that too, not to this extent, but this is

448
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 1: who they've been collectively for a while. I mean, hitting

449
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 1: a sixty one yard field goal with the gun it's

450
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 1: just like absurdity, I know, but I also feel like

451
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 1: everyone's like like almost wanting it to regress. It's like,

452
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 1: this is one of the most exciting things about this

453
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Speaker 1: season is that the Vikings are doing this. I hear that.

454
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Speaker 1: Then I've seen this sort of discussion among Vikings fans

455
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 1: and it's true, like, enjoy this. Vikings fans like, you

456
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,399
Speaker 1: went through all these anointing seasons with Kirk guns this

457
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 1: is fun. Well, they're also they've been through a lot

458
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,159
Speaker 1: of heartbreak, and there's a lot of Viking fans are like,

459
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:56,640
Speaker 1: I know what's happening here. You know how Wait, don't

460
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 1: follow a football team, but we're on a magic carpet, right,

461
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 1: Not that easy. Mr says. I'm saying that other fan

462
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,679
Speaker 1: bases would take this as their season, their team doing this.

463
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 1: And you have a buddy that's a Vikings fan. If

464
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Speaker 1: you if you have a personal connection with a Vikings

465
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: fan in your life, you know what they've gone through.

466
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 1: And there is not a doubt that every Vikings fan

467
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Speaker 1: in the back of their mind is a little concerned

468
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Speaker 1: that this is all building towards something ironically termed They

469
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Speaker 1: were concerned a year ago in the year before that,

470
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Speaker 1: in the year before that, like the like there, you know,

471
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Speaker 1: I'm not like crying huge tears for the Vikings fan base.

472
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 1: Right now, they're on fire. Let's talk in January. I'm

473
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Speaker 1: sure it will go south. I don't think they're gonna

474
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Speaker 1: win the super Bowl, but like, it's not like this.

475
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 1: There's I can I can think of situations that are

476
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Speaker 1: more you know, chaos late and at the moment there

477
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Speaker 1: are all right, let's take a break and we'll be

478
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Speaker 1: right back. All right, welcome back. The draft rolls on

479
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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler's Uh, well, I I love this like Carolina

480
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Speaker 1: Panthers Buck situation um a ghastly division where they lodged.

481
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: In any other division, this would be a dirt knap

482
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 1: situation where neither mattered at all. But it really is

483
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: like like kind of the story. And I think that

484
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Speaker 1: what Carolina did last week against Detroit on the ground

485
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 1: was one of the more powerful showings by any team

486
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: in this division where there's you can't point to the

487
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Speaker 1: Bucks and say they do this great. They should be

488
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: better than they are at all these things, and they're not.

489
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Speaker 1: That's why they're a disappointing watch. After week, the Panthers

490
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 1: were one of the most disappointing teams in the league.

491
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Speaker 1: And then when they get hot and they can run

492
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Speaker 1: the ball. Because I know the Lions, for instance, they

493
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Speaker 1: don't have a good run defense, and they've been better

494
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 1: than they were to start the season. But it was

495
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 1: so crystal clear. The Panthers are telling you week after week, Oh,

496
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 1: Sam Donald's been clean and he'll make some passes, but

497
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Speaker 1: that's not what our offense is about. We're just gonna

498
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: run at you, and Tampa Bay we're gonna do the

499
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 1: same thing at you. And I do think if you're

500
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Speaker 1: on the flip side for Tampa Bay, like they're probably,

501
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Speaker 1: I'm giving up any hope for them to be anything different.

502
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Speaker 1: We talked about Vikings fans like Bucks fans just have

503
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Speaker 1: to accept like this is probably just who you are.

504
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 1: You're gonna be a sleepy operation for three and a

505
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 1: half weeks and you're gonna lose that game like you

506
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: did against the Niners, or Tom Brady is gonna do

507
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: Tom Brady things for half a quarter and you're gonna

508
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 1: win in overtime, or you're gonna win in regulation in

509
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 1: a bizarre way. I do like that. Right now, We'll

510
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 1: see what happens, but practicing at this point in the week,

511
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 1: Tristan Worth's and Donathan Donovan Smith, because I think if

512
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 1: you love if you don't have those guys in there.

513
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 1: Tom Brady to me looks like a different quarterback last

514
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, with the turnovers and probably just trying

515
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Speaker 1: to not get hit and getting rid of the ball.

516
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Speaker 1: It just does not seem like if if his name

517
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Speaker 1: were you know, Tom Fabeats, we would not be thinking

518
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Speaker 1: this guy is definitely I would go f A B

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Speaker 1: I t Z I had a E t Z. Well

520
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Speaker 1: that works. There's different ways to because when you come

521
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 1: to the Statue of liberty, you can just choose, choose

522
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: what you want way back and they choose for you,

523
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: or they choose for you unfortunate Brady probably an easier

524
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Speaker 1: way to God. Does Tom Brady right now look good? No?

525
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: I think we should refer to him as fabeats uh

526
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Speaker 1: moving forward until he comes back to being Tom Brady,

527
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: because you're right, the last few weeks are the first

528
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Speaker 1: time that I can remember as a Brady apologist believer,

529
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: always thinking like, look, if you get everything around him working,

530
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 1: he he actually was playing better in that than you

531
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: thought same thing this season last couple of weeks. I

532
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: don't know. He's not playing with confidence. He's waiting till

533
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: the receivers are open before throwing it. So he's not

534
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: confident in his receivers. He's not confident in himself and

535
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: his accuracy, his his time to throw his one point

536
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: eight last week, which is just preposterous. He just doesn't

537
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: want to get hit. This looks like an old team

538
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Speaker 1: who knew what it was like to play in real games. That. No,

539
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: they're not a real team waiting to be put out

540
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: of their misery. I think the Panthers out the team

541
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Speaker 1: to do it. Yeah. I think the thing with Brady

542
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,719
Speaker 1: in this offense is they could thrive in spurts now

543
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: and then if that leads to a win. You know

544
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: people that could just focus on that, like Tom Brady.

545
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: He does it again, he six for six and overtime.

546
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, but the bigger picture is yeah, he's

547
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: not playing at a high level. The offense hasn't played

548
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: at a high level all season on the Panthers side.

549
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 1: I don't know, Greggy, I I I don't know what

550
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: to make I don't know how to make sense of that.

551
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: Lions game. But that's not the only time they've done

552
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: that on the ground. It was But but wait a second.

553
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: They also had twenty one yards on the ground the

554
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: previous week against the Steelers, which is not to you know,

555
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: take away from what they managed against the lines. But

556
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: I just like, I don't know what happened with Detroit.

557
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to the lines later. But some of

558
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: those defensive fronts, the way it even lined up, it

559
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 1: was like anybody could have had a huge game, the

560
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: way they ran the ball a hundred yards by their

561
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 1: second possession on the ground three by the end of

562
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Speaker 1: the game. Is that going to continue against Tampa Bay? No,

563
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: because I think Tampa Bay will deliver an actual professional

564
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: outing on defense and make it harder. Now I have

565
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: to and you know, Sam Donald apologist, but he uh

566
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 1: with that running game, which what quarterback wouldn't benefit from that?

567
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: Uh maybe Zack Wilson. Um he really played well as well.

568
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: And he you want to talk about how Tom Brady

569
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 1: doesn't look confident, Sam Donald's playing with confidence right now.

570
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: He's playing like a guy. He knows it's his job,

571
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: he knows the offense, he knows where to get the

572
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: ball and he's not flashy, and he's not a star,

573
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: and he's not as good as what the previous team

574
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: wanted wanted it to be when he made him a

575
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: number three overall pick. But he's somebody that could lead

576
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: this offense playing at this tempo, and I think I'm

577
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: just happy for him personally, and I hope it continues.

578
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Look, I think that he's in the

579
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: perfect place for him if they're going to not ask

580
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: him to do everything's not in an air raid scheme

581
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: or something. Um, he's looked really clean. He's not turning

582
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: the ball over. They did run for a hundred and

583
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 1: seventy on Tampa last time. I'm not trying to keep

584
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: the game was a dominant game. That was also the

585
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: PJ Walker like throwing all over the place. So just

586
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: as in you know, it has been inconsistent for Carolina.

587
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 1: But Tampa's defense, which I think you know there's if

588
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: you're not watching the Bucks, you're thinking, oh, there's still

589
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 1: a great defense, like they were destroyed by the Niners.

590
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: Not that that's the only team that the Niners haven't

591
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: done that too, But then when they've been bad, they've

592
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: been a floodgate and I just I think the but

593
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: what's more perfect than the Bucks just fizzling out? Though?

594
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: I think they lose this game, but you know, and

595
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: nothing would surprise me. I think it's a coin flip essentially.

596
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: But Donald's development, to me, is the biggest thing for

597
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: the Panthers. They're gonna really miss J. C. Horne, who

598
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: changed their defense to me as a top ten cornerback

599
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: in the league right now and may even return if

600
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 1: they make the playoffs. It sounds like or maybe even

601
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: week eighteen, he had surgery, but he's definitely out this week.

602
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: But Donald's development is the reason I give this team

603
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: a chance. I think he's had the best month of

604
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: his career. I know he had some high points late

605
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: in his rookie year again when he was with the Jets,

606
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: and he showed more high level play during that stretch,

607
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: But to me, he never looked like a quarterback, like

608
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: he never knew how to be an NFL quarterback. And

609
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: by that I just mean go through his progressions and

610
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: make good decisions. I think he's doing that now. I

611
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: think he's comfortable, like he's getting into his second and

612
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: third read. Yeah, he's been put in a good situation,

613
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: but he just looks like a guy that's like getting

614
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: it a little bit, and I think they can get

615
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: excited about you. You're in this situation. He's he's never

616
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: he's been attached to bad teams where there's no state,

617
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: you know what. Like the other part of it is

618
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: like we could say that and that's true, like he

619
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: was always attached to floating trash bags, as we like

620
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: to say when but on the Panthers, his head coach

621
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: is an interim head coach and the offensive coordinat there's

622
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: a guy we've mocked on the show, mercilessly, Ben McAdoo.

623
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: So it's like, whatever is happening in Carolina is a

624
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: great football mind. He saw Gino as a star well there,

625
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: and so I'm just saying, like it's on paper, it's like, oh,

626
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: now he's in a healthy situation. Well it seems that way,

627
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: but he does deserve credit. And Greg, one thing that

628
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: you and I went back and forth on um in

629
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: the past was like you called Donald one of the

630
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: biggest bus ever. I think this is kind of who

631
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: he can be and he showed that at times with

632
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: the Jets, like Zach Wilson, ironically a guy that hadn't.

633
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: He's he qualifies as that to me, there is basically,

634
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: but it's basically start your career as a jet and

635
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: then half a decade later you become Geno Smith or

636
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: you get you become Sam Zach Wilson. Five years from

637
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: now we're talking about comeback player. I'm just but Donald

638
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: was a bus Now. If he can do this and

639
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: reclamate some of it, I don't think you roll into

640
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: you don't pitch him as a starter next necessarily, but

641
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,959
Speaker 1: he saved his career in a Baker Mayfield quay too.

642
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: He's a He's a free agent at the end of

643
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: the year. This is a huge game though, for him,

644
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: I mean, and for this franchise. They win this game,

645
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: they controlled the NFC South. They'll still have to win

646
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: though next week, so they don't clinch it. The Bucks

647
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: clinch the division if they win this game. Donald's has

648
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: has the tougher opposition to me, uh in terms of

649
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: the defense that he's playing. If he plays well this week,

650
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: that that is a franchise changing, career changing type of win.

651
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: And I think I just mean Wilkes. Wilkes gets there,

652
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: you know, he keeps that. Oh, I think so let's

653
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: move on, uh, the old zooster on the clock. And yes,

654
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: let's talk about Sam Donald's former team, the New York Jets,

655
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: traveling to Seattle to face the Seahawks. This is uh,

656
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: this is a loser goes home match, no doubt about it.

657
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: Both teams seven and eight, both teams struggling. The Jets

658
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: are officially eliminated. They lose, So there you go, loser

659
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: goes home five of six. Uh. Seattle has lost. The

660
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: Jets have also lost five of six straight. UM. So

661
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: the way things broke um for New York after the

662
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: Thursday Night to Bacle with Zack Wilson was beautifully They're

663
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: they're very much in the race. They win this week

664
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: against Seattle and in Miami next week. One Patriots loss

665
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: and they're in. So there is a path here for

666
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: the Jets. It's not far fetched. Now they have to

667
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: play better. Um. And it's not just I think one

668
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: thing that got papered over with how miserable Wilson was

669
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: in the apparent end of his Jets career, because, by

670
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: the way, as we talked about on the Tuesday show,

671
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: Mike White cleared on mon Day, Zack Wilson not even

672
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: active for this game, so he's inactive again. He's out

673
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: of the picture. Joe Flacco is the backup. UM. So

674
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: the Jets played poorly in all phases. UM against the Jaguars,

675
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: the defense, which has been so good this season, they

676
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: got beat on the last drive by Detroit, and then

677
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: really we're not sharp against Jacksonville after their initial drive

678
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: where they forced to turn over. It was kind of

679
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: downhill at that point. UM, So they need to play better. Seattle,

680
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: on the other side, is a team that's really struggling

681
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: in almost every phase. So I think the way this

682
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: sets up is two teams, uh that that are not

683
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: playing well. Somebody's gotta win. Um. There could be a

684
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: situation where this is a is an ugly game and

685
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: one team wins an ugly fashion and then gets quickly

686
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: wiped out the week after. I don't know about that.

687
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: We'll see. But it's just nice to see Mike White

688
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: back in because I think that's gonna lift all boats

689
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: for the Jets, because I think Wilson was just a

690
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: negative suck on the entire operative. Mike White and I

691
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: think that this stuff matters. I I hear all these people.

692
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: There's no momentum that none of this has to do

693
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: with human It's all numbers and analytics. You're talking no,

694
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: no no, I mean like no no. Momentum is also

695
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: an analytics community. Like claimed by many too that none

696
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: of this stuff is really just like it is, you're

697
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: good or you're not good kind of thing. But Mike

698
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: White has generated four d and fifty plus total yards

699
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: and four of his six starts, so like, there is

700
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: a tangible difference in this. Well, this is a great

701
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: set up for the Jets, and it's a great set

702
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: up for them to be balanced, for them to make plays,

703
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: and like you see just a complete difference when he's

704
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: in there. And I will say one thing about Robert

705
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: Solid because I think like year two for him, uh,

706
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: this was a big season and maybe they don't go

707
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. I don't know what happens here, but

708
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: he handled as much chaos at quarterback as you could

709
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: ask and having to flip flop back and forth, and

710
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: he's been nothing but even keel about it. And in fact,

711
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: I'd say that there's been a human side too, where

712
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: you could allow a lot more angst and anger to

713
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: come from within the building towards Zack Wilson because Zach

714
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: Wilson's a kind of guy right now with the trajectory

715
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: of his career that could cost a different type of

716
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,719
Speaker 1: g M if you hadn't had a great draft class

717
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: and a coaching staff their jobs and all you ever

718
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: did was prop up Zach Wilson and try to show

719
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: him some dignity. And now Zach Wilson mercifully is inactive

720
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: and he should stay that way and he probably never

721
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: plays in the Jets uniform again. But Solaced proven to me.

722
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: I think that he is the kind of guy you

723
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: want as your head coach because through all of this

724
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: he's just been that dude. He's not going up and down.

725
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: He's just been steady, and I think that's a great

726
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 1: mark of someone who could stay around in New York

727
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 1: for a long time. They have not had that coach.

728
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: Although they lose these two games, I think there's a

729
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: significant chance Robert salins, well, that's that'd be a terrible decision.

730
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 1: I agree. The whisperers have already started. There was a

731
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 1: report in the Washington Post Woody Johnson did not hire

732
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: Robert Sala. He would get so much pushed back. I

733
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: think if this comes out there, I know you're saying

734
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: no because you don't want this to I don't think

735
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: they're gonna lose this game, and I think they should

736
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: be favored in their next two games, so none of

737
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: it matters. But I've seen Woody Johnson ter decisions. I

738
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: do not care what the watching post says everyone that

739
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: anybody that knows what's going on with this team knows

740
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 1: anything negative with this season is connected to a terrible

741
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: decision quarterback. But if they lose sixth straight to miss

742
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: the playoffs, in these next two games, you will have

743
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: Mike White back. I do want to see their defense

744
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: step up to me their favorite in this game. They

745
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,919
Speaker 1: are in Vegas as well, and I think it could

746
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: be even more. They're a better team to me overall.

747
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: And we've heard this is a great Jets defense. Show up,

748
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: be a defense that just be an offense that was

749
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 1: just dominated by Kansas City that's struggling up front. It's

750
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: been very erratic, uh running the ball like show up

751
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: and dominate this game and you won't have to worry

752
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: about it. But it would be very Jetsy if they

753
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 1: lost sixth straight and he'd be out and people watchington

754
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: posts aren't the only one thinking about it, Like I

755
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: think there's been some whispers around that team. If the

756
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: Giants make the playoffs here and they lose sixth grade,

757
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: that's nothing with surprise, Absolutely awful and how scouting if

758
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: that's what they do, Because what would you point to

759
00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 1: Robert Sala as the problem here? Anybody feel we're wasting

760
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: our time even having this conversation. Robert sal is not

761
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: going anywhere. I don't care what happens these last two games.

762
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: Like that's crazy to me, Gregg, that's something that's even

763
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: being speculated or being floated. I mean, this team is

764
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: going in the right direction, and a lot of it

765
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: is connected to him. They played hard for him. That

766
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: defense has gone from the worst in the league to

767
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: one of the best in football under him and his

768
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: Toutelage is the defensive mind that came over from San Francisco.

769
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 1: They missed on Wilson. That's hurt them this year, as

770
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: did the briefe Hall injury that really hurt their offense

771
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: and the offensive line issues. This team. Next year, when

772
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: they're healthy and get a better quarterback in the building,

773
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: a lot of people are gonna be very high on

774
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: this team. It actually makes me nervous. Thinking about it

775
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: that people are gonna be talking about them being an

776
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: acre next year. I think they're gonna make the play off.

777
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: My point is this year. I think they're making it.

778
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: This year. I think they're better than the Dolphins and

779
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Maybe Woodward and Bernstein should operate and focus

780
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: on something else down at the Washington Post in the

781
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: solid situation. Let me say this, but I asked, I

782
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: don't think it's bad reporting. I they're not the only

783
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: ones kind of talking about UM. I never do this,

784
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: it's been It's very rarely happened on this pod. But

785
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 1: I did grow up in a coal town. And when

786
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 1: you grow up in a coal town, UM, you're told

787
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: to temper hope. Sometimes hope isn't a good thing. Sometimes

788
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: it's just better to go down in the hole, as

789
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 1: we called it, do your work, come home, have dinner

790
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: with the family, go to bed, and get up for

791
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: the work the next day. Um. But with that set,

792
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: I will have hope here because I have watched his

793
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: team all year, and I think I think they're gonna

794
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: play really well in this game, and I think they're

795
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: gonna win this game, and I'm gonna lock up the

796
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: new York Jets. And you could say it's uh, you know,

797
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: tugboat setting himself up for failure maybe and whatever. I'll

798
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: deal with that if that happens. But I think White

799
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 1: will make this offense much better. They will move the ball,

800
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,959
Speaker 1: the defense is going to be hyper motivated. Um, every

801
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: one's going to be hyped for this game, and Seattle's

802
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: going in the wrong direction. I think the Jets are

803
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: alive going in this weekends. I love that. I think

804
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: that's you're putting it where all this fan hope businesses.

805
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: That's the right thing to do. I like this situation

806
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: for you. Um, you are one of the rare people

807
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: attached to a coal mining village with like your own

808
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: theme song and like a voice where you can you know,

809
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: do a little soliloquies on a nationally broadcast, internationally broadcast show.

810
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: Not the typical coal miners. You know, I made it out.

811
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: I'm not sure you were in it, but you were

812
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: made out of town in the country is like five

813
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: nicest places to retire if you have a lot of money.

814
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: Nobody retires in Pearl River. But it does get my

815
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: mom angry when I when I bring up the coal mine.

816
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: Why because it's fabricated. Well, what's angry? And I should

817
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: ask go talk to her as I will, because I

818
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: I sense that her frustration could be valid with this

819
00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: entire narrative. But um, let's move on to snakes of

820
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: the zeo, sir, Let's grab that other a f C

821
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: East game. Um, Dolphins of Pats from Gillette weird weird,

822
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: wild stuff. Carson Um Teddy Bridgewater probably starting this game.

823
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: It's been announced now Okay, So Teddy Bridgewater starts in

824
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: place of Tua, who was diagnosed with a concussion after

825
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: being placed in concussion protocol. Uh so, obviously disappointing there,

826
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 1: and you hope um he is in a good place

827
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,439
Speaker 1: um as he recovers from his latest head injury. Um.

828
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: So Teddy now steps in to face a Patriots team

829
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: that just found ways to lose in just crushing fashion

830
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: and back to back weeks against Vegas and then Cincinnati. Um, Greg,

831
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: to your credit, Uh, after that ugly Monday night football

832
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: game against the Cardinals, you predicted this team was gonna

833
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 1: go down in flames and there would be more ugliness

834
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: to come. Well that's happened, and I just wonder, like,

835
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: you know, did you watch the game. Yeah, we all

836
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: watched that game and it was bad, And you just wonder, Greggy, like,

837
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: if this is all kind of heading towards some type

838
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: of grand finale of dysfunction with with the mac Jones

839
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: situation and how unhappy he is with Patricia and Belichick.

840
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 1: Are we heading towards a big finale? Uh? I would

841
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: like to see it, but I don't think it could

842
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: happen emotional explosion, something something like mac Jones gets benched

843
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: or something after another apple or something. Well, we've also

844
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: gotten through the whole Belichick needs to change the offensive

845
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: staff or else, so he might not be there next year.

846
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: I do think there will be a surprise firing or two.

847
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: I think these three a f C East teams are

848
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: all candidates um to just have something out of nowhere.

849
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: Fir to No, Well, he wouldn't be fired, but we've

850
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: already talked about it. Well, I think it's pretty clear

851
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: Craft is telling every reporter possible that if he doesn't

852
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: make changes, then we're getting Bill O'Brien's name Florida there.

853
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: I think they probably wanted Bill O'Brien last office. That's

854
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: off for later, Like this is essentially a playoff game. Uh.

855
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: For these two teams. The Dolphins UH could theoretically get

856
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: in still if they get a loss. The Patriots need

857
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: to win these two games. I don't know. I don't

858
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: trust anything about this Patriots team. Nothing about last week

859
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: made me feel any better about their offense. To me,

860
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: it's unsalvageable. But it's going against the Dolphins defense that's

861
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: also been really disappointed, led by former Patriots assistant Josh Boyer. Like,

862
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: these two units have really let their teams down. Because

863
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: the Patriots defense they played great. They have a lot

864
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: to be excited about in the future. The Dolphins offense

865
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: has has, you know, taken a step back lately, but

866
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: they've done their job. And I'm not that worried about

867
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater. I don't think it's gonna be a big decline.

868
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: But like which of these two groups, Patriots offense Miami defense,

869
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: which has been so disappointing this year, can step up

870
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: for a week. I tend to trust Miami more. I

871
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: would trust Miami or any defense against New England's in

872
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: the center. So I think New England creates as many

873
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: problems for themselves on that side of the ball as

874
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: almost any team in the league. I mean, I know

875
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: the second half against Cincinnati paints a different picture, but

876
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: they this is typical for them. He had seventy yards

877
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: of offense at half. Mac Jones had thirty four yards passing.

878
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: How many halves have we seen like that from mac Jones?

879
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: Where whatever it is, if they get in some sort

880
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: of a hole, and I think Teddy Bridgewater stands out.

881
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 1: There is a top three or four backup quarterback who

882
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: has been through a lot, who knows this. He's gonna

883
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: do fine in the system. It's not gonna be a

884
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: big step down for him. Uh. You still get the

885
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: wide receivers they have create these big plays. It's not

886
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: coming from to the same way it would be from

887
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: m Patrick Mahomes or something. So I think you can

888
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: generate the offense, still be explosive and handle a Patriots

889
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: team that. Frankly, the only reason they're still hanging around

890
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: at this point is because the league is what it is.

891
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: They're not a playoff team on any level to the eyes.

892
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 1: You know the idea of Miami going on the road

893
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: now to New England with a backup quarterback, I don't

894
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: know they've They've lost, they haven't won a road game

895
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: since Week nine. Um, but I do agree with you

896
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: on the Teddy thing. I think that it's not gonna

897
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: be might be less erratic than to it. Yeah, like

898
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: he I could. I can absolutely see him moving the

899
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: ball with this offense. And then if they can do

900
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: that and they can score some points, then you're putting

901
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: the pressure on New England again to find ways because

902
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: look at like New England one thing, it's also getting

903
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: lost a little bit and how bad the offense is.

904
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: Look at last week, for instance, they nearly dug out

905
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: of that twenty two nothing hole. One touchdown was on

906
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: yet another defensive score. Uh. And then they had essentially

907
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: a third and forever Hail Mary type throw from midfield

908
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: that got deflective receiver's hands for a touchdown. Uh. And

909
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: then when they finally actually moved the ball down the field, reminder,

910
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: Stevenson blows the game with the fumble. It's just it's

911
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: just so dysfunctional that it just feels like to me, Greggy,

912
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: um to what you were saying a couple of weeks ago,

913
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: that this is all heading a certain direction and it

914
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: makes more sense to me that the Dolphins of the

915
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: team that is moving on and playof football, not the

916
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: Pets still alive in Week eight team It does to

917
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 1: me as well. Now the now the Dolphins could lose

918
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: this game and then beat the Jets next week, and

919
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: if the Patriots then lose to the Bills, you know,

920
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: both pretty realistic outcomes, then the Dolphins would be the

921
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: team that gets in. So this is less of a

922
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: winning in uh like elimination scenario for the Dolphins. The

923
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: Patriots do need to win this game. I am curious

924
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: the Week one, I know is early in the Dolphins season,

925
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: but the Patriots defense did a fantastic job against too

926
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: uh and and they've exploded essentially the next week. And

927
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: they played a similar type of style that the forty

928
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 1: Niners did and the Chargers did when this whole thing started,

929
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: which is, I don't think they have the cornerbacks to

930
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: actually play press man right now. They're also missing uh

931
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: three of their their their top three cornerbacks are out

932
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 1: of practice, Dan Marcus Jones, Jack Jones, and Jalen Mills.

933
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: So that's like Marcus Jones has been a difference. That's

934
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: a bit of a disaster. But the Patriots are the

935
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: team that would actually play some press man. How McCarthy back.

936
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: They're playing kind of that cover one look and almost

937
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: dare Teddy Bridgewater. They can rush the past or two.

938
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: They have their third in the league and takeaways their

939
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: second in sacks. So there are elements to like Belichick's

940
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: coaching the defense along with people trust. They got bar

941
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: Mower back, who is a breakout player. He's made the leap.

942
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 1: Judan is great. Uh, They've somehow turned Juwan Bentley into

943
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: a good player, and they have some dynamic safeties. Like

944
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: it's a pretty good defense, It's just that's not the

945
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: side of the ball that's gonna be enough. Do you

946
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: think might be enough to win this game? Though? I

947
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me. I had to pick the Dolphins. Speaking

948
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 1: of hot seats, do you think Mac Jones in these

949
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: next two weeks could be playing for his job? I

950
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: think we've said that on the show. I don't think

951
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: he's on the Patriots next season. I don't. I don't

952
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 1: think these two weeks are gonna make or break him.

953
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be on the Patriots next year

954
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: for sure, and whether he has competition or not, that

955
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think they want to see without

956
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 1: think Belichick is not blind love each other right now,

957
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: If Belichick is there next year, then assume it's with

958
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator. He's not blind. I think he's

959
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: want to see mac Jones with a different uh. I mean,

960
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 1: we've seen it. We saw it with McDaniels early part

961
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 1: of last year. Jones kind of got bang a little

962
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 1: bit here. But I wonder, I'll say, because I wonder

963
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: if the relationship with Belichick, with the whole situation just

964
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: needs to refront. We don't know what's going on, but

965
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: like you're what you're saying, we're gonna start, will we

966
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: see on like an emotional explosion over the next two weeks.

967
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: We've been seeing it for a month plus. Like, I

968
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: don't think Belichick loves his quarterback doing that on the

969
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 1: sideline and having to be the number one narrative surrounding

970
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Belichick obviously is the king, you know, kingmaker there.

971
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: He believed that mac Jones enough to make him a

972
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: first round pick. Obviously, his strategic decision making and coaching

973
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: hires hurt mac jones development. I would say it's more

974
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: likely that they just redo the offense um. But we'll

975
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: less things are you know, ugly behind the scenes, certainly possible.

976
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: Let's take a break and we'll roll on. All right,

977
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: welcome back. It's time now for the Sunday Drive presented

978
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: by Toyota Mark. You're up in the draft, all right,

979
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick my late game. I'm gonna go Niners

980
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: at Vegas. Um, it's gonna be a strange trip to

981
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: Vegas this time around. The Raiders, we just talked about

982
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: a team what will lay with their quarterback. I think

983
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: we were suspicious that Derek Carr would be back with

984
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: the Raiders a year from now. There were a lot

985
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: of reasons to suggest that Josh McDaniels and Derek Carr

986
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: were not maybe totally copasetic. He's been shut down for

987
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: the rest of the year. He's left the team to

988
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: not be a distraction. Jared's Stidham, old Patriots quarterback, will

989
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: be starting against the Niners. I feel like you're Jared Stidham.

990
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: You're thinking, wait, this is the week that you're play.

991
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: Offensive line is collapsing, and uh, now we're going to

992
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: play the I have to deal with Nick Bosa in

993
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: the flesh in a few days. The Niners defense right

994
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 1: now is so incredibly dominant on this eight game win streak,

995
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: they have allowed twenty or fewer points under three passing

996
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: yards and under a hundred rushing yards and every one

997
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: of those games. That's the first team to do that

998
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: in eight straight games since the ninety two Bears led

999
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: by George Hallis. And it's like there are only a

1000
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,439
Speaker 1: couple of defenses out there that we trust. Week after week,

1001
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: the Niners are doing it, and certainly against Jared's did

1002
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 1: Him Well, no, I think this, this feels like I

1003
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: like to pick a blow out here and there. This

1004
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: has that the ear markings of that bar and something

1005
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: really weird. I mean, I don't think Josh Jacobs is

1006
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: a very happy camper. If you listen to his comments

1007
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: from after last week. Run Josh Jacobs to another team.

1008
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: He Jared's Didham also a free agent. You know, Jared Stidham,

1009
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: Who's San Francisco is awesome right now. I moved them

1010
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 1: up to number one of the power rankings Rock Parties

1011
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: three and oh I got a little bit of an

1012
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: issue with them. Okay, well we can talk about that.

1013
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: But the the fact that the offense is continued to

1014
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: hum along evenent Deebo Samuel out and now the third

1015
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: string quarterback in and the defense being absolutely dominant. It Um,

1016
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: that's enough for me to say that they're the best

1017
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: team in football right now. And and well, let's talk

1018
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: about that pushback just very quickly. Yes, there's no way

1019
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 1: on a neutral field I have taken any team led

1020
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: by Brock Purty against Josh Allen, Joe Burrow or Patrick

1021
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: Mahomes and those teams just no chance. What about Jalen

1022
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: Hurts and Eagles or them maybe either? Are you are

1023
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: you factoring in beyond the quarterback? What about the defense

1024
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 1: going against those those two teams meet in the Super Bowl?

1025
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: No way I am picking Purty except pretty has actually

1026
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: outplayed Jimmy Garoppolo statistically. You gotta beat these Do you

1027
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: think this is irrelevant bias by you? I'm talking about

1028
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 1: the reason it's more defensive based, But it's the fact

1029
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: that he's been able to hit the ground running. They

1030
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: don't feel to me like they've lost anything with him there.

1031
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just three A teams are the

1032
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 1: best three teams, not the number the number one according

1033
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 1: to the are burying the lead here. Derek Carr is

1034
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: no longer going to be at the Raiders. Yeah, and

1035
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: that one. This one annoys me a little bit. And

1036
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: they could say like, oh, we we have to bench

1037
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: him because we decided he's not part of our future

1038
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: and we can't risk him getting injured. They won't even

1039
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: say that, And all that is just like whatever, what

1040
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 1: happened to just having some basic decency, Like this guy

1041
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: who who every day for you know, eight years, like

1042
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: represented or franch as well, played his butt off. Sometimes

1043
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: it was great, sometimes not so hot, but always represented

1044
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: the team I thought in a in a professional way

1045
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: and was a good player. And this is how you

1046
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,959
Speaker 1: just kick him out the door, and you you shut

1047
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: him down and embarrass the guy this way, and it's

1048
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: like whatever, I don't like the way. I get the

1049
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: reason why you're doing it, but sometimes I feel like

1050
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: there should be when you're doing business, a classier way

1051
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: of handling things that I think the rates tied probably

1052
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 1: from if you're looking at it from a front office angle.

1053
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: If he were hurt over the next two games, which

1054
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 1: is highly unlikely. He's very durable quarterback. You're on the

1055
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: hook for thirty two million. But like Dan, I'm not

1056
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: disagreeing with you, Like I think they treat him terribly.

1057
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: I just think like there were technical problem of reasons

1058
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: why they shut them down. But I said, I mean,

1059
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: I said that Mark in the set. I'm saying you

1060
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: could point the reasons why you shouldn't play him because

1061
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,959
Speaker 1: you have to protect your franchise interest. But how about

1062
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: you just show some respect to some of them if

1063
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,439
Speaker 1: it's not Josh McDaniels running the show here, I don't

1064
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: know if it happens that way. I just don't think

1065
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: it does. I don't think it was Josh McDaniels who

1066
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: made this decision. Based on Vic Tafer of The Raiders

1067
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 1: that there was back to back nights of meetings between

1068
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels and his GM and it sounded like they

1069
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 1: were leaning towards keeping Car in the lineup, And according

1070
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:41,479
Speaker 1: to Tafer, he thinks it's Mark Davis, who's never really

1071
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: been in love with Derek Carson. Essentially like, look, if

1072
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: you guys have decided you're moving on from Derek Carr

1073
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 1: in the off season, which they had, I don't want

1074
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: you starting him. Uh. He He wasn't as explicit. I'm

1075
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: not saying he was reporting that, but that's what he

1076
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: believes happened, and that would make sense because he was

1077
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: trying to get rid of Derek Carr for Tom Brady

1078
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. They might be trying to

1079
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: get Tom Brady again. I do understand why Derek Carr

1080
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 1: leaves the team. It really does sound like the two

1081
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: sides met and they tried to be adults about it,

1082
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: like here's the situation, and and both sides understood it's

1083
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: time to go. And I do think they will be

1084
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: able to trade him. They signed him to a contract

1085
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: last year which turns out to just be essentially a

1086
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: five million dollar rays. We said it at the time,

1087
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: this was not really a long term commitment. But he

1088
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: has a no trade clause as part of that, so

1089
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 1: he is going to control the situation. We'll get into

1090
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 1: all that in the offseason plenty. But if Matt Ryan,

1091
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: with his forty million dollar dead cap hit, UH can

1092
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 1: get a third round pick, and I know once was

1093
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: you know, cost too much? Uh, Derek Carr can absolutely

1094
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: get some of the learned from some of those deals.

1095
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: I think there's some but one one third round pick.

1096
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: I don't think his contract is crazy, so I think

1097
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: they'll be able to I feel like Derek Carr will

1098
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: be the He will be seen when he's traded somewhere

1099
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 1: someone that's gonna go absolutely elevate another roster. And I

1100
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: never viewed Derek car that way. I think he's gonna

1101
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 1: go somewhere to be like Derek Carr will solve these

1102
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: problems average quarterback, and this has a lot of value.

1103
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: And I think that part of the issue is like

1104
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: in the NFL today, some of these front offices are like,

1105
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: that's not good enough. We need to swing higher and

1106
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: find the big guy. But you might end up way worse,

1107
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: Like you might end up with Tom Brady at age

1108
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: forty six next year playing the way Tom Brady might

1109
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,240
Speaker 1: have Matt Ryan or Carson Wentz. Derek Carr. This level

1110
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: is a is a better option, and there will be

1111
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: a team, whether it's the Jets or the Commanders or

1112
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: the car like the Cardinals. For some Kyler very happy

1113
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: to have a plan here because that's how you get

1114
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: fired if you bring in someone who's way less than

1115
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: Derek Carr and you suffer another terrible season. And like

1116
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,439
Speaker 1: above the tree tops opening the kimono, here a little

1117
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: bit like not for nothing, We'll go look at the numbers.

1118
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: Derek Carr's production in the last three years or so

1119
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: under John Gruden compared to what he did with Josh McDaniels.

1120
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: With Davante Adams there. Now you could say that Derek

1121
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: Carr has has blamed for his numbers going down. Sure

1122
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 1: he does, but maybe there's some scheme in there involved

1123
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 1: two and then that's your head coach and the guy

1124
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 1: that's running your operation on the field. Now, it wouldn't

1125
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 1: surprise me, and this would drive Raiders fans crazy, but

1126
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: just be ready for it. Wouldn't surprise me if we

1127
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 1: hear some Davante Adams trade rumors. Remember that he went

1128
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: there to play with his buddy from college. That was

1129
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 1: the Sunday Drive presented by Toyota Greggy. I am taking

1130
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: the team of a row in a big spot, huge

1131
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: spot at home against the Chicago Bears. You know, you know,

1132
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,760
Speaker 1: nice matchup to prove that last week was one off

1133
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: for the Lions. Two hundred and fifty eight yards. That's

1134
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: how many yards they gave up to the Bears the

1135
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: last time they played in a game they narrowly and

1136
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: I would say luckily one in Chicago. And yet I

1137
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: think this team is going to respond defensively. I think

1138
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: they're much better when they play with a lead, and

1139
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: I think they can get the lead in this game,

1140
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 1: and I think that they're going to protect Jared Goff

1141
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: very well against a defensive line for the Bears. It's

1142
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 1: not been good. The Bears defense playing a little with

1143
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: a little more energy since thereby, I'll give them that credit,

1144
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: but it's not going to be enough. And that's why

1145
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 1: I'm locking up the team again. Like that. I mean,

1146
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: they betrade you in the lock camp, but I like

1147
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: that you're showing that respect to them. You're saying that

1148
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: was a fluke. You're not alone, by the way, gentlemen,

1149
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: I intended to start this off with an apology for

1150
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: not being on last week, but then Dan calls me

1151
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 1: out on Christmas Eve, acts like I'm the bad guy

1152
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: for not having time to do the video last week.

1153
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: You know, some of us have real jobs. We don't

1154
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: just sit around watching football and talking about our lives

1155
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,439
Speaker 1: all day. You know, we have to go into work

1156
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: put hours in lead people. You guys, go ahead and

1157
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 1: give me a hard time for not doing the video.

1158
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: Speaking of which, I'm not getting paid to do this.

1159
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: Your ratings have since I've been on. I want to

1160
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: get paid next year. My agent will be in touch.

1161
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: But in the meantime I will give you this one.

1162
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: We will be locking up for the first time this year,

1163
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: the team of a t L. You're the music justin

1164
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: lock it up? Wait? Did did Nick? What a broadcaster

1165
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 1: he's becoming? Did he pause there for the two beautiful? Nick?

1166
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I called you out a Christmas evel of

1167
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: all I mean based on their results? Are you at

1168
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: all concerned? Greg? I am a little bit. My plan

1169
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: was initially to lock up the Eagles and other people,

1170
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: and now it was it was the Eagles. But now

1171
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurt sounds like you might return. We'll get to that,

1172
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: and that that doesn't pass the mirror tists as well.

1173
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: I do think that they will respond. The thing that

1174
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: concerns me in this game is, like I said, I

1175
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: think the Bears defense has been played with more energy

1176
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 1: and that they still have justin fields. But if you

1177
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 1: can't take care of business at home against the Bears,

1178
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: what are we talking about? All this flowery stuff we

1179
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: talked about the Lions was wrong and I don't believe

1180
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: they're that team. I believe they're a better team if

1181
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: you go back to when they played the first time.

1182
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: Justin Fields had one of his most explosive days on

1183
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: the ground thirteen carries for a hundred and forty seven

1184
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: and two touchdowns. Detroit gave up three hundred and a

1185
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: million year yards of last week, so it's like that

1186
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: that weakness still exists. But I'm with you if you

1187
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: are the Lions and you can't offer this Bears team

1188
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,919
Speaker 1: a bad defense itself, because golf and the offense weren't

1189
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: the problem last week against Carolina, like they should be

1190
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: able to put up points. Golf splits at home or insane.

1191
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: And I think the Lions, you know that they're going

1192
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: to be going right. They're learning to become this team

1193
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: that's a different type of Lions team, and you're gonna

1194
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: have these up and down weeks. This will be an

1195
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: up week. Is that? Does the head coach have the

1196
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: motivational ability to get this team ready after a humbling

1197
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: lassit here from Dan Campbell, I feel like they do. Look,

1198
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say this again. It stings. It's awful, um,

1199
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: but man, it's the best thing can happen to us,

1200
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: you know, um, Because I think no matter who you

1201
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: are and whatever you do, some of your best work

1202
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: is when you get your face kicked in, And so

1203
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: I mean that literally. I don't know everybody gets their

1204
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: face kicked in, but but I do know. Man, when

1205
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: your backs against the wall and you get trotted on

1206
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: and it's and everything that it's worse. You either just

1207
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: stay down there or you get up and you come

1208
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: back motivated and upset um with calculated energy and aggression

1209
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: and men you go and there's a purpose. And so

1210
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: I think this is the best thing for us. You

1211
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 1: don't think he's setting the town this week. And by

1212
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: the way, for people out there, that is absolutely great advice.

1213
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: Everybody gets kicked every once in a while. I gotta

1214
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: get back up the measure of a man or a woman.

1215
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: Sometimes you can be the kicker too. If you want

1216
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: to give someone else that gift, if you're saying it,

1217
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 1: give them, hey, this is for you. Yeah, you grow

1218
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: from it. I'd like them to give the Bears that gift.

1219
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: Then their offensive line kick them in the teeth, like dominate,

1220
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: don't let fields run. They didn't really run with fields

1221
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: last week. I do wonder if that is a little

1222
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: bit of preservation. They're not gonna sit fields, and I

1223
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: expect that although abral Flus said absolutely not, even though

1224
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: he got his footstepped on and he his left shoulder

1225
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: was aggravated that injury. At certain point, it's like, I

1226
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: get it, But they have the number two overall pick

1227
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: right now. They could end up moving up to number

1228
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: one a win. Uh, this is how you end up

1229
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: with Zack Wilson instead of Trevor Lawrence and people at

1230
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: the time we're like, oh, yeah, try your hardest, and

1231
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: it's like, well they are rising eight came losing streak

1232
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: the longest in team history. So you took about these

1233
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: coaches that are like on hot seat. Is Aberflus just

1234
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: automatically safe? No, But I have noticed, like no one

1235
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: ever comments that the Colts defense got better and that

1236
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: I know there's a million reasons why the Bears defense

1237
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: is terrible, but he is a defensive coach and they're

1238
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,439
Speaker 1: like the worst defensive league. It's worth mentioning. But he six.

1239
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: So it's back to me. It's back to me, and

1240
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to make a selection. That's how it works.

1241
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: Very clear. I'm going to make us selection in this draft,

1242
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: and that selection is Giants Colts. Let's do that. Okay,

1243
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: why did you pick that correct. Why don't you I

1244
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: could guess on the off chance the Giants have a

1245
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: layup chance to make the playoffs and the Cults beat them,

1246
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: and he can just dance because I wasn't ready and

1247
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: do a jig. It wasn't ready. I think you made

1248
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: a terrible pick. But just like, knock this game out.

1249
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: I think I think the Giants are gonna play better

1250
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: in this game. I think it's a great challenge for

1251
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones in this offense. I think people have been

1252
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: slamming Isaiah Hodgens and Darius Slayton like a little too

1253
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: much now each week. It's like, look, Daniel Jones is

1254
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: out here, and like his receivers are Darius Slayton and

1255
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgens. Last month, Isaiah Hodgens is a good player.

1256
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: I think he has a like a future in the

1257
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,919
Speaker 1: NFL now that he wouldn't have had if he didn't

1258
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: get this opportunity. Like he's been more durable and consistent

1259
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: as sort of a possession receiver who can can win

1260
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: someone on one matchups in eight areas. And Darius Layton's

1261
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: a good player. He's gonna be a free agent this year,

1262
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: and it's like, why do they always bench steriously. I'm

1263
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: not saying this is a dynamic receiver group, but those

1264
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: two guys have stepped up. Daniel Jones has stepped up

1265
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: paying better. It's a tough matchup though for Evan Neil

1266
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: in this offensive line, which has struggled against a good

1267
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: Colts defense. So I think it's the perfect setup. It's

1268
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: a challenging game for their offense, but ultimately a comfortable

1269
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 1: game for the Giants and they can celebrate a playoff

1270
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 1: victory at home. That would be pretty special for this team.

1271
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: I know because of the nature of the season, because

1272
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:36,439
Speaker 1: started so well and they've been in you know, ah

1273
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: precipitous decline with the exception of that Sunday night win

1274
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: over Washington that it doesn't feel like that anymore that

1275
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 1: they're having a good year. But if they win this game,

1276
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: as they should and I think they will, it might

1277
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: not be pretty, but it very rarely is when when

1278
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: they win this game, feen or whatever, uh, and they

1279
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: are celebrating that playoff but that's a huge um. That's

1280
01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: a huge victory for the organization, uh, for the head

1281
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 1: coach and everyone in that building. Daniel Jones in a

1282
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: crucial year, in his development and with his UH contract situation. Um,

1283
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: they this is something that no one expected. Who predicted

1284
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: the Giants to make the playoffs this year. There were

1285
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 1: tons of tons of reasons to not go down that room.

1286
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 1: And they're they're winning in and just the way the

1287
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,959
Speaker 1: NFC looks, they could lose and get in the way

1288
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: the NFC looks. But I get it, get it done with. Well,

1289
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: you have no business losing this. I also think that

1290
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: you're playing a cults team that is found a way

1291
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 1: to become as broken as possible. I mean, you don't

1292
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 1: have Shack Leonard or Jonathan Taylor at this point, but

1293
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 1: your offensive line, which was perceived to be a strength,

1294
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: is given up fifty six sacks and you put Nick

1295
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: Foles back there, who looked absolutely washed and awful on

1296
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: Monday night. So I to me, it's like, this is

1297
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 1: a great situation for Dexter Lawrence, for our friend cave

1298
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: On Thibodeaux to haveau Thibodeaux have a great game, and

1299
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: that won't help my friendship with him. They they got

1300
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 1: a Dorry Jackson back in practice this week. I think

1301
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 1: this is it's important for the Giants. I think they've

1302
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 1: played a little better lately, as Ezolari, who injured last

1303
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: week also as a practice, so they're getting healthier. They

1304
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: actually have a good defensive line. That's something they can

1305
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: build around. There's there's some outrageous stats out there, and

1306
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: I was hoping I could find it before you guys

1307
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 1: stopped talking, but you didn't. You guys stopped talking too soon. Um,

1308
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: but do you want me to talk again? I mean

1309
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 1: it's always an yeah exactly, but it was just yeah, sure,

1310
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: I will. Um. The cults know have been outscored an

1311
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 1: absurd amount of points at the fourth quarter under Jeff Saturday.

1312
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 1: And I know there's uh, you know, a lot of

1313
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: people want to to dunk on Saturday and dunk on

1314
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: the Colts operation for it, and I'm not here for that.

1315
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: But whatever the intended, um, what what was intended by

1316
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: ursay here hasn't played out. It's actually led to kind

1317
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: of a little bit more embarrassment for the organization when

1318
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 1: they could have just installed someone from the coaching staff

1319
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 1: and ended the season with some level of modicum grace. Instead,

1320
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: this feels like a circus, uh. And it's been just

1321
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: and they're keeping by the way that was news falls

1322
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 1: will start falls doesn't want to play the last two games.

1323
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 1: Fowls also like basically had quotes saying he never expected

1324
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: to see the field this season on any level. So

1325
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 1: it's like, I'm assuming he's a hard worker, but it's

1326
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 1: like this is a bizarre reality for him to suddenly

1327
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 1: be thrust into this situation. The thing I like the

1328
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,439
Speaker 1: least about this Cults team is that they're putting Matt

1329
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 1: Ryan out to pasture with the worst ending possible, and

1330
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: they're putting Super Bowl hero Nick Foles probably these are

1331
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 1: the last starts of his career. Come on, insane. India

1332
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 1: has been out scored in the fourth quarter since the

1333
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: there was that Dallas thirty three points. No, my nug is,

1334
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:48,959
Speaker 1: I'm locking up the Giants beat the Jags this week

1335
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 1: and when next week they have a chance to push

1336
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 1: Indie to fourth place in the a f C South.

1337
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 1: The sandwich prop is alive. Just throwing it out there

1338
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:02,959
Speaker 1: heady times. Pinch me. Uh was the Desert say about

1339
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 1: that game? By the way, it's like a five point spread.

1340
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on, Mark back to you. All right,

1341
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: I'll go Cleveland at Washington. Obviously Cleveland eliminated Washington plane

1342
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 1: for a lot right now, and you're putting Carson Wentz

1343
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 1: back in there. I think Greg likes this move um

1344
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: better than I do. Um. I don't have this innate

1345
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: trust and Carson Wentz excepting I think that well, you

1346
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: were saying that you like you Kineke, you call the

1347
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 1: worst quarterback in the league, which I don't. I don't

1348
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 1: have any innate trust in Carson Wentz, but I do

1349
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: like the move. I think I think that Carson Wentz.

1350
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: If anything, it's like they did need They needed to

1351
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: get away from some of Heinekes, like self inflicted wounds

1352
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 1: and the turnovers, and you just got to find a

1353
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 1: way to beat a Cleveland defense that I think you

1354
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 1: can run on. Washington wants to run the ball, and

1355
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 1: Cleveland's offense has, you know, not to go down this

1356
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 1: road over and over. But they've looked so disjointed that

1357
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 1: if you look at the worst two quarterback ratings passer

1358
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 1: ratings in the league, the second worst is Zach Wilson.

1359
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 1: Somehow the worst is the Shawn Watson and it's looked

1360
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: that way. And my bigger issue with Cleveland's offense is

1361
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 1: that it has completely affected what their strength was, which

1362
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: is Nick Chop. I mean, he just is not in

1363
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: the same situation as he was before. There's a lot

1364
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 1: of shotgun going on. Washington's defense is better. I think

1365
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 1: their offense with someone like Jahan Dotson, who has seven

1366
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: touchdowns this season despite missing five games, has become a

1367
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: big playmaker. You've got Terry McLaurin. You can move against

1368
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 1: this Brown's defense. It's in Washington, everything's on the line.

1369
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 1: I think this is ron game. No, I'm not, but

1370
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna do it. I thought you were

1371
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 1: going to do it. No, I can't believe the Browns

1372
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 1: have missed the playoffs nineteen. There's a graph of if

1373
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: you want to sign YouTube years or on NFL networks right,

1374
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 1: thank you for uh. This is a very winnable game

1375
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 1: for them. But my thing with Wentz is that I

1376
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 1: think his floor is similar to Heineke. Heineck was more

1377
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 1: or less can assistant as who he was, and I

1378
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: think Wentz will give you that at worst, which is

1379
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: a couple of decent plays and a couple of plays

1380
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: that drive you absolutely crazy and overall it's bad. But

1381
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: the better level of Carson Wentz and we've seen plenty

1382
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 1: of it, including in Washington. Uh this year. Like even

1383
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 1: a good Wentz game or the good Wins games you

1384
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: got from the cults, those are all better than the

1385
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 1: good Heineke games to me. So to me, the ceiling

1386
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 1: is higher. I don't think the floor is getting any lower.

1387
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 1: And I think it's really telling. With Ron Rivera and

1388
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 1: a playoff spot on the line and new ownership supposedly

1389
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 1: coming this offseason, this is riverbolt Ron if there ever

1390
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 1: was one. This is as gutsy as a pick as

1391
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 1: there is, and he trust Wentz. I'll give it to him,

1392
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: and it does feel like ahead and start. This is it.

1393
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 1: This is everything that we built up through the summer.

1394
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is a goal to take command on the

1395
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 1: private jet. Maybe one more take would have been good.

1396
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: There he's so wishes he never recorded. If he doesn't

1397
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 1: play well, um or even if he does play well,

1398
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: he would have to play outstanding football. I think otherwise

1399
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna see a complete reboot of this organization. Way

1400
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 1: to bring car ownership, maybe head coach, quarterback. I think

1401
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: a lot of change for a team that's still in

1402
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 1: the mix. I think there is that possibility. If they

1403
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 1: lost out, Yeah, they're another team. If they lost out,

1404
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 1: it would be bad for once because he lost to

1405
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: win an in games to close last year on a

1406
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,759
Speaker 1: different team, so there's no way he'd stick around in Washington.

1407
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:32,679
Speaker 1: If that's the case, you gotta win this game. Chase

1408
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 1: Young return last week and really looked like Chase Young.

1409
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 1: So they have a huge strength upfront that will make

1410
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 1: it harder on Cleveland. And this is a great game

1411
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,600
Speaker 1: of like do steaks matter? We really get into like

1412
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 1: this team's gonna try harder this week. This is this

1413
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 1: is a perfect test case of like the Washington Commanders

1414
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 1: have everything on the line. They the brown do not.

1415
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 1: Their season is absolutely over into even teams. You would

1416
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 1: think that should be a difference. I don't know if

1417
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 1: that's a difference, but it should I think matter a lot.

1418
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:07,759
Speaker 1: Then the Commanders win this game and perhaps perhaps uh

1419
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:09,879
Speaker 1: it could not be a more fitting way for Cleveland

1420
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 1: season too to end. Then the way that game went

1421
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 1: last week, Mary Cooper slips wide open in the back

1422
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 1: of the end zone, uh to miss a surefire touchdown

1423
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 1: past that's a four point play, and then Donovan Peoples,

1424
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 1: Jones and David and Joco both failed to come up

1425
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 1: with really good Deshaun Watson passes that would have uh

1426
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 1: stolen that game and kept them in the mix, but

1427
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 1: it didn't. So it was just yet another um on

1428
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 1: the previous drive to throw the ball on close to

1429
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 1: the end zone on second and two and third and two,

1430
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 1: and then Watson gets dropped to the ground on fourth

1431
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 1: and two. It's like, what were you the Browns? For

1432
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 1: Watson to show some semblance of his talent in the

1433
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 1: last two weeks, I think they would. They would love

1434
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:52,839
Speaker 1: to see that. They need that. It's like a narrative

1435
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 1: change to that point. If he gets a little help

1436
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 1: from his teammates. People are saying he had a good

1437
01:09:56,800 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 1: game last week, but he didn't. But he doesn't comfortable,

1438
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:02,759
Speaker 1: kind of like I was talking about with Donald previously

1439
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 1: in his career, Like, yeah, he could have made a

1440
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 1: couple of throws that I think anyone in that system

1441
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: could have made, but he isn't going through his programming.

1442
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 1: He's just not playing quarterback. Well, he's been out for

1443
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: two years. It's like, yeah, well, whose fault was that?

1444
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 1: Like you knew that when you signed, Well, they went

1445
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: from fifth in yards per game. He wasn't recovering from

1446
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 1: an a C L he was recovering from something that

1447
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 1: got him removed from the NFL. Truth Truth. Let's take

1448
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 1: a break, We'll be right back. Welcome back. All right,

1449
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 1: let's wrap this draft up. We got five more games.

1450
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 1: Let's roll through it. Let's start with the New Orleans

1451
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:43,759
Speaker 1: Saints at Philadelphia Eagles. Interesting, the Saints improbably still alive

1452
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 1: at six and nine, uh in the NFC South Race,

1453
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,680
Speaker 1: So this game matters a lot to them. And here

1454
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 1: are the Eagles now at thirteen into What do the

1455
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 1: Eagles need? What do they need to do? They gotta

1456
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 1: clinch the number one seed. How do they do it?

1457
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 1: Win a game? Win a game. Who's the quarterback for

1458
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 1: the Eagles. It's the latest as of taping right now,

1459
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 1: Greg rose Doll. Jalen Hurts is gonna be on the field.

1460
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 1: He was on the field to start practice on Thursday

1461
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 1: throwing some passes. They don't know what his official designation is,

1462
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 1: whether that means he's returning or not. But I do

1463
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 1: think our guy Ian Rappaport put it out there on

1464
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 1: Wednesday that, like, keep an eye, Jalen Hurts might end

1465
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 1: up playing in this game. We have some sound from

1466
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 1: Nick Serrianti on Jalen Hurts, he was a tough man.

1467
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 1: He will continue to see how how he progresses throughout

1468
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 1: the week. Um, you know, does he have a chance.

1469
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 1: Of course he does, because his body heals. His body

1470
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 1: just knows how to heal. He's he's a freak, and

1471
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 1: so we'll see what happens as the as the week progresses.

1472
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,600
Speaker 1: How does his body differently for everybody else? If you

1473
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 1: and him went up and you does shot baskets together,

1474
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 1: he'd whoop you. If you guys went out and you

1475
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 1: guys raced against each other, he'd whoop you if you

1476
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 1: guys went out And uh, let's see try to throw

1477
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 1: the football. So he was to throw up more accurate

1478
01:11:55,479 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 1: or further and so his body heals faster, you know

1479
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 1: a sports reporter, Yeah, you know, I guess he's just

1480
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 1: saying he's an athlete at a higher level. But I

1481
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: understand yet anybody else noticed a little h Kevin Patrick

1482
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 1: energy with Nick Sirianni, what about see where you're coming

1483
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: from a little bit. So, I mean he's been talking

1484
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 1: about this for two weeks now, Sirianni, about what a

1485
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 1: freak Hurts is, So I'm expecting him to play at

1486
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 1: this point now, because you don't just keep on talking

1487
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:23,719
Speaker 1: about how top a guy is and now he heals

1488
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 1: so quickly and then keep him out an extra week.

1489
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 1: So if he does play, I think Eagles role in

1490
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 1: this game. If Gardner Minshew plays, maybe it's a little tighter.

1491
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 1: But either way, I think this is a game that

1492
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 1: Philadelphia is going to grasp the moment understand they don't

1493
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 1: want to mess around and push this thing to Weka

1494
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 1: teen where things get freaky. I predict a blowout. Eagles

1495
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 1: are the number one seed in the NFC comes Sunday night.

1496
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:47,520
Speaker 1: You also don't have Lane Johnson, so you're you're potentially

1497
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 1: with or without you're starting to go back you don't

1498
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 1: have it. Sounds like Lean Johnson will be back for

1499
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 1: the playoffs though, which is that is a show of

1500
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 1: um fortitude and strength as well because he's dealing with

1501
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:59,679
Speaker 1: a peck injury. I think it's an abdominal tendon injury.

1502
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 1: But then think about it, if if they take care

1503
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 1: of business here without Lane Johnson, they think he could

1504
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 1: be back by the place you have the buy, which

1505
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 1: means he misses essentially one game that matters and you

1506
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 1: have him back if everything goes to plan in the

1507
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 1: divisional playoffs. I would say the thing of the thing

1508
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 1: that's optimistic no matter what happens with all this is

1509
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 1: that Minshew against the Cowboys, um, we we thought he'd

1510
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 1: play well. We I think Minshew is shown he can

1511
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 1: do that is his numbers have been good career wise,

1512
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 1: but they didn't have to go change the offense a

1513
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 1: lot for him. I think it's like you, you you don't

1514
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 1: have to cope to be something completely different hurts. It's

1515
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 1: gonna obviously give you something on the ground, and you

1516
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 1: can base an entire games scheme around that if you want.

1517
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen with Minshew to some degree at all,

1518
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 1: but he makes the throws. I thought that. I thought

1519
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 1: for the Eagles, offense is so balanced that you just

1520
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 1: need him to not make mistakes. What happened last week,

1521
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 1: I thought it was closer than it needed to be

1522
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 1: at times because Minshew did make a couple of mistakes,

1523
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,839
Speaker 1: so you need him to be error free. The Saints

1524
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 1: defense has been played, has played better lately. You know

1525
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 1: they've They've been a little closer to what you expected

1526
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 1: coming into this season. I would say the last six

1527
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,759
Speaker 1: or seven weeks, if Dennis Allen wants to uh prove

1528
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 1: that he should stick around and that he's a great

1529
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 1: defensive coach and that this all was just a lot

1530
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 1: of bad luck because there were a lot of injuries

1531
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 1: and there were let's see it you shut down the Eagles, Uh,

1532
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 1: then we believe it. I don't believe it. I am

1533
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 1: curious how the Eagles will respond here. They've only lost

1534
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 1: once all year, and you think like, oh, they're gonna

1535
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 1: come out with their hair on fire. Remember the last

1536
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 1: time they lost, they almost lost to the Jeff Saturday Colts.

1537
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 1: They were down sixteen six and they got it done

1538
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 1: in the end. But it's not like they came out

1539
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 1: playing great and the Saints team is okay. I I

1540
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 1: wanted to lock this up. This is like the lock

1541
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,000
Speaker 1: that I feel the most confident. But I looked at

1542
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 1: the line before we taped. It just moved from six

1543
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 1: to six and a half. I kind of see with

1544
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 1: Hurts possibly starting, it'll move over that. So I I

1545
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 1: couldn't look in the mirror and do it. But just know,

1546
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 1: I think the Eagles will win this game about thirty

1547
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 1: four to ten, even if Garden Bye they're nice. It's

1548
01:14:56,479 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 1: it's been annoying. See your next summer uh game six

1549
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 1: snakes to me. Broncos at Chiefs. All right, let's roll

1550
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 1: through this one. The Broncos obviously a team in turmoil.

1551
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 1: They fired their head coach after dropping again a fifty

1552
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:14,719
Speaker 1: burger dropped on him by Baker Mayfield and the Rams.

1553
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 1: So that's where they're at. By the way, I was

1554
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 1: on Ricky's ram Jam podcast over in rams Land, Erica

1555
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 1: tam Pose yesterday, so check that out. And also Ricky

1556
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 1: gonna join us on the Friday fund. I did that show.

1557
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 1: It's a delightful vehicle coming out of a little football,

1558
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 1: a little bit of fun. It's very Ricky esque, very Ricky.

1559
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 1: Let's move on into the game talk. I think the

1560
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs gonna take care of business here. This

1561
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 1: is an easy win. It's almost been a weird Chiefs

1562
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 1: back into the season where I feel like the schedule

1563
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:50,640
Speaker 1: has been very soft and every week it seems like

1564
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 1: they you know, just that. Let me take a look

1565
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 1: at this schedule because it feels like maybe I'm crazy,

1566
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 1: but let's look at it. Say they had they had

1567
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 1: a bad Rams team. They had since a Nati lost

1568
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 1: play field goal at Denver at Houston Seattle and Flames Denver,

1569
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 1: and then they get the Vegas. They couldn't possibly be easier,

1570
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 1: so they should absolutely go fourteen and three. Uh. And

1571
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 1: then you just hope that the Bengals beat the Bills

1572
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 1: and Walla the Chiefs of the number one seed. I

1573
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 1: hope that doesn't happen because I don't think they're the

1574
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 1: best team in the C, but they certainly have the

1575
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:23,560
Speaker 1: best pack. I see these three teams in the a

1576
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 1: f C as like basically equal because only one of

1577
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:28,719
Speaker 1: them has my homes the I'm sick of the Chiefs

1578
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 1: hosting the AC championship. It's totally fair, and they would

1579
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 1: have the easier path. I think there are some things

1580
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 1: to watch for for them in this game in the

1581
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 1: next two weeks. Number One, their defense, like under spack Nola,

1582
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 1: has shown a propensity to be very mediocre throughout the

1583
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 1: course of the season and then suddenly pick it up

1584
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 1: at the end, and so just keeping an eye on that.

1585
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 1: They did play well last week, like can they dominate

1586
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 1: this game coming to the the postseason feeling a little

1587
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: more confident about who they are and in their offense. Look,

1588
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 1: they were first in the league and e p A

1589
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 1: expected points added right there by, so much like number

1590
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 1: two was way behind. So their offense is still playing well.

1591
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 1: But if you look over the last six weeks or so,

1592
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 1: their fourth in the league, and they're so they're back

1593
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 1: to just being like a really good offense. And I

1594
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 1: think to your point, Dan, for them to be the

1595
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 1: best team in the NFL, they need to be the

1596
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 1: best offense. They need to be putting up points. They

1597
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 1: can't just be a top five offense. They have to

1598
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 1: get exactly. They gotta get back to just lighting teams up.

1599
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna put a fifty burger feel good about you.

1600
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 1: They're legitimately a different attack than they were a year ago,

1601
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 1: and it's it's Tyreek Hill. I mean, Kelsey's on on

1602
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 1: pace to break his own personal career records. So you

1603
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:47,759
Speaker 1: still have Kelsey, but they have twelve players with multiple touchdowns,

1604
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 1: which is the most in the NFL. The record in

1605
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 1: the NFL is thirteen. Mahomes has been using his running

1606
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 1: backs in his tight ends so heavily this season that

1607
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 1: they're literally just a different attack. McKinnon has been huge

1608
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 1: for them. I want to see more narious Tony two.

1609
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 1: So they got things to work on. Uh. And just

1610
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 1: because I don't want to denigrated at all what the

1611
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 1: Chiefs have done. It is hugely impressive what they've done

1612
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 1: in the Mahomes eras starting twelve and four made to

1613
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 1: the conference title game, twelve and four won the Super Bowl,

1614
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 1: fourteen and two lost the Super Bowl, twelve and five

1615
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 1: lost the conference title game, and now twelve and three

1616
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 1: and they've beaten the Broncos fourteen straight times, which is

1617
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 1: an embarrassment for Denver. That's why I'm locking it up now. Alright,

1618
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 1: gonna go Jacksonville at Houston. Trevor Lawrence at speaking of

1619
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 1: weird records, has never beaten the Texans. Now. Two of

1620
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 1: those games obviously happened last year when Lawrence and the

1621
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 1: Jaguars were held hostage by Urban Meyer. Uh. I think

1622
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 1: we've already talked about Lawrence a ton. What's happening here

1623
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 1: is really special. I thought the Jets game was sort

1624
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 1: of a in terrible weather. Another example of Trevor Lawrence

1625
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 1: kind of like with Patrick Mahomes. From Patrick Mahomes has

1626
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 1: we always knew he could run, but his legs have

1627
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 1: been a real difference maker in that Kansas City offense,

1628
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 1: and I thought against the Jets, Lawrence showed that he

1629
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 1: has that element of absolutely and like, I think that's

1630
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 1: when it matters when you're there are a lot of

1631
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 1: different type of running quarterbacks and it's not this type

1632
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 1: of size, but to be six ft six and you're

1633
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 1: watching it right here on the clip if you're watching

1634
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 1: NFL never like just to run the way he does

1635
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 1: with his power. I think that's just something that is

1636
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 1: another special element to a player that at the beginning

1637
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 1: of the season was real up and down. It's a

1638
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson obviously bump as well. The coaching helps, but

1639
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence just seems to me, ever since that London game,

1640
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 1: which he noted where something clicked in his mind where

1641
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 1: it is time to become who you can become. And

1642
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 1: I think they could beat any team in the league

1643
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 1: right now. And I know the Texans have been really

1644
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 1: well coached. A couple of weeks, they pushed the buttons

1645
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 1: of the Chiefs not to too too long ago. They've

1646
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:48,680
Speaker 1: been winning winning games here and they're they're not just

1647
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 1: the team that we just dismissed out of out of hand,

1648
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 1: but Jacksonville, this is a huge moment for them. You

1649
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 1: gotta set up that week at they're going to win

1650
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 1: this game. But because it just comes down to week

1651
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 1: because the matter, because they still have an outside shot

1652
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 1: at the wild card each week eighteen, but ultimately it's

1653
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 1: down to Week eighteen. So really, Jacksonville doesn't need to

1654
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:12,680
Speaker 1: win this game. And they've also lost nine straight as

1655
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 1: a franchise to the Texans. Change those records, just keep rolling.

1656
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 1: They've been changing record alright, Uh anything else in that game? Boys,

1657
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 1: I think the Texans are finding some young players. Jalen

1658
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 1: Petriet has been playing great for them. Obo o'caran Quo

1659
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,639
Speaker 1: has made some money. He's going to be a free agent.

1660
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 1: The Jaguars made a point to say they're not going

1661
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 1: to rest any starters. Doug Peterson doesn't want to rest

1662
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 1: and uh, yeah, this is a great streak. To end

1663
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 1: nine straight losses is a lot and they've they've ended

1664
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 1: a lot of these streaks like haven't won on the road,

1665
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 1: haven't done this, haven't done that, and this one because

1666
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 1: this will show t laws improvement. He was not good

1667
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 1: in that first game against the Texans at all. It's

1668
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 1: got to be like the Houston's wins over the last

1669
01:20:55,920 --> 01:21:00,679
Speaker 1: like straight, Houston and the fans all know this. Stay

1670
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 1: right where you are. There is one number one pick

1671
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 1: right now. Don't win another game. There is one more

1672
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:07,680
Speaker 1: thing in this game. I'm locking up the Jaguars. Is

1673
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 1: he gonna do it? Is he gonna do it? What's

1674
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:13,600
Speaker 1: the spread of that one? It was quite you're is

1675
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:17,680
Speaker 1: It wasn't too crazy thinking that the Jags could wrestle me.

1676
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 1: I think maybe they're maybe they're pointing to some of

1677
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 1: these bizarre Houston Jacksonville trends that we've it's four. I

1678
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 1: think the Texans are The way they've played over the

1679
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 1: last month have has engendered. When was the last time

1680
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 1: they didn't cover? I guess with jackson was playing well though.

1681
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 1: That's a good luck Marky. By the way, what is

1682
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 1: the checking on the lock standings? Where are we at

1683
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:42,480
Speaker 1: as we head towards the penultimate week of the regular season? Penultimate?

1684
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 1: It does go through the playt Yes, it does. Basically

1685
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 1: the final locks standings give Greig the trophy. I'm at

1686
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 1: twelve and four. I'm literally only one game up with

1687
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 1: eight weeks to go. I like this is like the

1688
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 1: old school of the NFL standing sixteen game schedule, Greggy,

1689
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 1: twelve and four zoos an five mark your name spelled right,

1690
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 1: and the correct record is that. Yeah, I don't know what.

1691
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. That was a sort of a gag

1692
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 1: that died out. I haven't seen that in mind, whoever

1693
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 1: made one? Third place? There? Ten and six, the West

1694
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 1: Brothers hanging around at nine and seven, and Grave Digger

1695
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 1: at this point, Grave Diggers in the Mike Tomlin camps, like,

1696
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 1: can I just finish over five? Grave Digger? Yeah, honoring

1697
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:25,719
Speaker 1: his team, the Titans by being a seven win team

1698
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 1: with um. All right, let's move on, Greggy. Oh, we

1699
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 1: have games to go. Let's go Rams and Chargers. It's

1700
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 1: the battle for l A. I just said that and

1701
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 1: said it. I just tacked it up. Okay, we're just

1702
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,520
Speaker 1: we're making it a thing. You should go the showdown

1703
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 1: in the south Land. That's good. I do like that

1704
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 1: these uh like the front offices, don't like each other

1705
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:57,720
Speaker 1: like I think the ownership, Like the war on the

1706
01:22:57,720 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 1: West Coast, there is a whole thing between the ray

1707
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 1: Ums and Chargers that's similar to Giants Jets back in

1708
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 1: the day when the Jets were a tenant of the

1709
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 1: The Giants creates a little bit of heat. Yeah, that

1710
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,560
Speaker 1: the charge he called a giant stadium. That's been a

1711
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:14,680
Speaker 1: little bit of a slap. Let's make no mistake. The

1712
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 1: Chargers are tenants of the Rams and uh, I'm sure

1713
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 1: they would love those Super Bowl rings. But right now

1714
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 1: they're the toast of the town. They're the heavy favorite.

1715
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:25,800
Speaker 1: They're the defense that over the last five weeks is

1716
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,600
Speaker 1: the top five defense in terms of de v O

1717
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 1: Way and they can snuff out this Baker Mayfield story.

1718
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 1: I love what Brandon Staley has done. I really think

1719
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 1: he's he's kind of change what he does on a

1720
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 1: week week basis in a Belichickian way, and I think

1721
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:44,719
Speaker 1: the players finally get it, like they understand the defense

1722
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 1: enough and he's being able to coach it enough that

1723
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 1: they can be flexible about who they did. They designated

1724
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa to return off I r that just means

1725
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 1: he's practicing, doesn't mean he's playing in that what a

1726
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:57,720
Speaker 1: great sign for this team. Derwin James is in the

1727
01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 1: concussion protocol, so it sounds like he probably won't play

1728
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 1: it is I mean, it does help that I think

1729
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh knows Brandon Staley's defense I think that in

1730
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 1: other situations when he's familiar with the defensive coordinator. It

1731
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:13,640
Speaker 1: what happened last week, Like I know that like the

1732
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield thing. It's not unlike Sam Donalds me, at

1733
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 1: least a month ago, we were wondering at Baker Mayfield

1734
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 1: because of his sort of personality makeup. He wouldn't be

1735
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 1: a backup. He'd be Curry creating problems. Like he's changed

1736
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 1: his career with this whole Sean McVeigh thing, and I

1737
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 1: think it's changed the Rams end of their season. And

1738
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 1: he was like twenty three of twenty six under pressure

1739
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 1: last week, but two touchdowns, so it's working. And they

1740
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 1: have all their stars out, so I think it's it's

1741
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 1: you know, I would heavily favor the Chargers in this,

1742
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 1: but what the Rams did against so the Dolphins was

1743
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 1: real to me. They match up well because Akers is

1744
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 1: really playing with juice. He's changed his uh trajectory over

1745
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, like he looks fantastic, And

1746
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 1: I do think you can run against the Chargers. Yeah,

1747
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:55,640
Speaker 1: I think. Um, you know, if I'm Baker, I know,

1748
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 1: if you finished the season strong, you're gonna want to

1749
01:24:57,600 --> 01:24:59,599
Speaker 1: test the market and see if maybe there's a stay

1750
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 1: right here. I agree, I think maybe there's a case

1751
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 1: to be made for him staying in l A play

1752
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 1: behind the old man quarterback, and you're probably gonna get

1753
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 1: another opportunity now, whether he takes the long game or

1754
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 1: I assume the Rams would be interested in staying in

1755
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:16,600
Speaker 1: business with him he finishes strong, It'll be interesting to

1756
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 1: see how that plays out. Um and if they if

1757
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 1: they could win this game, it is kind of like

1758
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 1: their super Bowl. They would love to beat the freaking Chargers.

1759
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 1: They would love to meet him. Yeah, And and on

1760
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 1: the Charger side of this, you know the Chargers are

1761
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:30,560
Speaker 1: an interesting team is that they're a playoff team. And

1762
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:32,600
Speaker 1: as a fan of a Star Cross team, I like

1763
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 1: when a team takes care of business the way they

1764
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 1: did against the bad Colts last week. Just clinch the

1765
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:40,839
Speaker 1: playoff uh spot and don't let any of the demons

1766
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 1: into the building. And now you have a chance against

1767
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:45,799
Speaker 1: the Rams team that I know. They destroyed the Broncos,

1768
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 1: who obviously have all sorts of issues, but they're there.

1769
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 1: They're not a good team this year. And then they're

1770
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 1: at Denver, who were the team that the Rams destroyed

1771
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 1: they can go into the playoffs feeling really good, potentially

1772
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 1: at eleven and six and be a heart out with

1773
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert in his first playoff game. So I think

1774
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 1: there's incentive for the Chargers to keep rolling here while

1775
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 1: resting the guys that are banged up. Finally Cardinals, we

1776
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:12,800
Speaker 1: mean finally Cardinals Falcons. This is the one dead game

1777
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 1: you referred to. There's only one this week. This is

1778
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 1: a trash bag game. This is trash bag teams right now,

1779
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: and it's it's tough, it is, it is what it is, though, Greggy,

1780
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 1: I watched the Hard Knocks. Um there's a lot of

1781
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 1: cult McCoy involved. Yeah, I don't know. It just is

1782
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 1: so depressing that I just thought, how are they going

1783
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 1: to handle this thing with? We got a lot of

1784
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 1: J J. Watt Or is that next week's finality? I

1785
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:36,640
Speaker 1: guess so perfectly. I was curious about that too. I

1786
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 1: got fast forward to some of it. But they they

1787
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,639
Speaker 1: didn't know he was gonna retire, clearly because they didn't

1788
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 1: have anything extra. It's been a lot of Trey McBride

1789
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 1: going to Denver. It's been cult McCoy, a lot of

1790
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 1: cult McCoy. Uh. I've I've enjoyed parts of it, but

1791
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 1: it's sad. It is sad. I love vance Joseph. That's

1792
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 1: the one thing that this thing has made me feel.

1793
01:26:58,040 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 1: I want I kind of want them to win, just

1794
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 1: for the hard stake of it. Win a game. This

1795
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 1: is there miserable. I think everyone's I think it's there's

1796
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 1: gonna be turned over in the coaching staff and just

1797
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 1: get one win to go out on at least. Yeah,

1798
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 1: I mean they put food a baker on I R

1799
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 1: which it sounded like, you know, he thought he was

1800
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 1: hurt before and he suddenly was healthy days later. But

1801
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting that Cliff Kingsbury he finished

1802
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 1: that game too, and made a tackle right on the

1803
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,719
Speaker 1: goal line against the Bucks, like with a broken shoulder.

1804
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 1: That dude is crazy. Not a great look for Cliff

1805
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 1: Kingsbury to not even know that J. J. Watt was

1806
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 1: going to retire. Am I reading too much into that?

1807
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 1: That feels like a weird what's a personal decision? And

1808
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 1: I don't know J J. Watt did it how he

1809
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 1: wanted to do it. I'm not gonna Yeah, it just

1810
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 1: seems very Cardinals asked to have no concept. I feel

1811
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 1: like nothing matters with the Cardinals. Right now, with the Falcons,

1812
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 1: at least you could point to Desmond Ritter was a

1813
01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 1: day to draft pick um in a bad quarterback draft class,

1814
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 1: I would imagine the Falcons would be very active looking

1815
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 1: at quarterback options in the off season. Could Desmond Ritter

1816
01:27:58,240 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 1: with a couple of good games at the end of

1817
01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 1: the season changed in minds. I know it seems silly,

1818
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:04,639
Speaker 1: Oh who cares what happens in the last two meaningless

1819
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 1: games of the season, But teams do put stock into that.

1820
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 1: Consider played well, it's good tape to look at, he

1821
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 1: played a say it's worthless. But sometimes I think too much.

1822
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:17,840
Speaker 1: I think they overdo it. Like coaches saved their jobs

1823
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:20,600
Speaker 1: by a great Week seventeen or Week eighteen something. So

1824
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 1: their fourth and sixth in the draft order right now,

1825
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 1: so that's what matters. And they can get some nice

1826
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 1: tight ends there, you know, get another wide receiver, another

1827
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 1: tight end. Um. All right, we're good. There you go.

1828
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 1: That is the Week seventeen preview. Check back in on

1829
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:40,640
Speaker 1: Sunday night when we do our flagship podcast on a

1830
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:43,639
Speaker 1: t N and cover every game that we just previewed here.

1831
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 1: Thank you, uh and remember the Friday fun show check

1832
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 1: that out and uh five shows a week. We do

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