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Speaker 1: Welcome to pod meets t World, a podcast that one's chronicled.

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Speaker 1: Two guys who had never seen Dancing with the Stars

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Speaker 1: but watched a season and somehow walked away experts.

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Speaker 2: From there, we ventured into Traders, a show I'd never seen,

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Speaker 2: but one Will swore he could win. And now we turn.

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Speaker 1: To Survivor season fifty, the Big One, and this time

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Speaker 1: the roles are reversed. Will has seen exactly one season,

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Speaker 1: the first one. Meanwhile, I've watched for years. We are

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Speaker 1: Wilford l who prefers his wilderness with room service, and

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Speaker 1: Right or Strong, who will hike any mountain but hates

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Speaker 1: the beach. Two best friends, one devoted to the comforts

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Speaker 1: of civilization, one who would never leave the woods if

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Speaker 1: he could. Both reality competition scholars yep, join us as

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Speaker 1: we dive into Alliance's blind sides, fire making, sand related misery,

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Speaker 1: and twenty five years of television history culminating in a

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Speaker 1: single massive season.

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Speaker 2: This is Odd meets Twirled Seeking Immunity. Yes, all right?

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Speaker 1: In your journey through Survivor, how did this episode didn't

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Speaker 1: make you feel better?

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Speaker 2: Are you still not into it? I'm still my god,

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Speaker 2: I don't like the show. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: It's it's it's literally just people sitting around lying to

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Speaker 3: each other and and having our awful conversations about who

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Speaker 3: to aids.

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Speaker 1: Is no traders completely that with samon locks being taken,

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Speaker 1: there's all it.

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Speaker 3: Is three people lying on traders, everyone else telling the truth.

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Speaker 3: The point is to go and find the liars in

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Speaker 3: this wonderful pageantry. It's so over the top and crazy.

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Speaker 3: This takes itself so seriously and it's just it's five

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Speaker 3: minutes let's walk on the beach and and and and

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Speaker 3: uh swim in the ocean to Untie Knots, and then

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Speaker 3: ninety minutes of them.

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Speaker 2: Going who should we kick off? I think we should

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Speaker 2: kick this person off. I think we should kicked it.

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Speaker 3: And then people sitting there like staring at the camera.

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Speaker 3: The people are annoying. I like nobody.

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Speaker 2: I don't like the show.

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Speaker 3: This is.

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Speaker 1: This is This gets to the heart of like a

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Speaker 1: major difference between you and me in that we both

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Speaker 1: like a reality show where people I think are sort

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Speaker 1: of tasked with the same thing, which is do you

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Speaker 1: trust people or do you not?

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Speaker 2: Right? Whereas I think you like a level of.

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Speaker 1: Irony and humor and sort of like playfulness, yes, and

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Speaker 1: I like a certain level of like life or death

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Speaker 1: steaks or earnestness. But again, there's no life or death.

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Speaker 1: Like Sue and I were watching last night and she's like,

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Speaker 1: what happened to the chickens?

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Speaker 3: What do they do with the chickens? Are do they

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Speaker 3: kill the chickens? Do they get eggs with the chickens?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they just don't, don't.

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Speaker 3: I know, they don't know any of that. What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Do they get the chicken? Are these people eating? Are

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Speaker 3: they not eating? It is a high school cafeteria, which

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Speaker 3: is the worst place in the world.

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Speaker 2: Put on an island, that's all it is.

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Speaker 1: But they're at least they're on an island, and they

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Speaker 1: really are struggling. They are starving at all. I know,

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Speaker 1: you're you're just you're just seeing the way that they're

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Speaker 1: editing it. I totally get that, and but but it's

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Speaker 1: increasing the stakes for them in a way that when

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Speaker 1: they are deciding whether to trust each other or not,

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Speaker 1: they're literally going to eat or not or you know,

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Speaker 1: like the whereas like traders, I just look at it

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Speaker 1: and I'm like.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is just like fun.

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Speaker 1: You know, mostly rich people sitting around playing like a

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Speaker 1: board game for ten days.

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Speaker 3: It's a fun game. Well again, some people are rich,

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Speaker 3: some people aren't. And survivors the same way. You know,

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Speaker 3: some of these survivors have made a ton of money

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Speaker 3: being reality stars, but the same way.

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Speaker 1: You know, the stakes are so much. Don't in survivor

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Speaker 1: showing me any of this. I know, but you but

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Speaker 1: they are like we had Sophie on the show, like

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Speaker 1: she telling me, right, but.

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Speaker 3: A good television show, I should be able to have

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Speaker 3: to tell me the Hey, here's what they're not showing you.

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Speaker 3: Here's why it's really tough. Well, then you're showing me

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Speaker 3: half a story. A good show anybody should could be it.

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Speaker 3: You never saw Traders, you sat down, you got it

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Speaker 2: They do this.

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Speaker 3: I shouldn't get into a show where it's like I

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Speaker 2: I'm just supposed to have seen.

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Speaker 3: All of the episodes before, and that's how I'm supposed

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Speaker 3: to have known what's going on. So they're going to

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Speaker 3: for the people that are already fans.

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Speaker 2: That's bullsh But.

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Speaker 1: See, I think what's funny is that the what you're

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Speaker 1: actually seeing on screen is identical. They're just in Traders,

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Speaker 1: They're just in nice outfits in a nice castle eating loss.

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Speaker 2: See I disagree. It's like literally and they're like playing.

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Speaker 1: They're like walking around like a beautiful grounds and like

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Speaker 1: That for you makes it more fun because it's like,

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Speaker 1: like the stakes are never supposed to be high, whereas

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Speaker 1: this you're mad that the stakes are implied to be higher,

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Speaker 1: but you don't get to experience those high stakes.

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Speaker 2: Well it's got to be one. You can't have your

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Speaker 1: If it's a high stakes thing, show me the high

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Speaker 1: what's actually happening is identical. Like the complaint that you

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Speaker 1: have for Survivor you could apply to Traders. No, but

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Speaker 1: it's not a group of liars. But Traders is not

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Speaker 1: twenty liars. They pit they purposely pick three liars.

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Speaker 2: Okay, watching decide whether they can trust each other or not.

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Speaker 3: Right right, But it's but again, but again, when when

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Speaker 3: they're all at Tryina and I'm jumping ahead, but when

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Speaker 3: they're all tribal council later.

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Speaker 2: One of the things the tribal councils.

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Speaker 3: By the way, if I have to hear the music

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Speaker 3: I'm going to start swinging on whoever sitting next to me.

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Speaker 3: So I feel bad. It's awful. It's like, oh my god, up.

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Speaker 3: So they're sitting there, Will we got angry?

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Speaker 1: Will this sport?

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Speaker 2: Oh God? They're sitting there? Because I'm like, how, how? What? What?

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Speaker 3: This is a show made for people that are already

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Speaker 2: It's like, that's all this is. So they even say like.

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Speaker 3: They're sitting there and they're going, oh yeah, I know

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Speaker 3: that I'm being put this there. I'm here with twenty

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Speaker 3: my head is like, how does Ryder like this?

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Speaker 2: He hates lying, he hates people that lie.

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Speaker 3: And now not only that, but they're not even showing

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Speaker 3: the thing that Rider would love is the actual survival skills.

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Speaker 2: Now, it's just the lying. How does Ryder still like

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Speaker 3: I couldn't wrap my head around it. I don't like

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Speaker 3: a lot of the people. Some of them are fine.

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Speaker 3: I've connected with nobody. So again, if you don't know

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Speaker 2: Why what? What did Is that something I should know?

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, then cut back to what happened in a

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Speaker 2: It's like he might as well. Somebody might turn.

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Speaker 3: Around and go choop boop, but choop poop, and everybody goes,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, he didn't, and I'm going, what, What's

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Speaker 3: what's going on? So they're literally just making this show

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Speaker 2: I totally get your criticism.

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Speaker 1: I totally get your complaints, but I think, like the

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Speaker 1: that didn't need to be established that she just was

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Speaker 3: You know, she said it was important for me to

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Speaker 3: great way to end a great wrap around. They're clearly

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Speaker 3: stating that this had happened in the past and somebody

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Speaker 2: I didn't get that.

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Speaker 1: I literally just thought it was like, no, oh, she's

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Speaker 3: That's why they all looked at her and they're like, oh, man,

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Speaker 3: that's so cool that you did the saying that happened

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Speaker 2: Hell is going on?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I guess that, man, But I still

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Speaker 2: You to come in on. Oo, I gotta start earlier ones. Apparently.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm surprised that you can't, like cause, like,

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Speaker 2: Just tone, but also the care.

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Speaker 3: It's also casting because the there's such characters on Trader

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Speaker 2: Well, that's that distancing. I think that like, that's that

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Speaker 1: That like I've always loved when people are you know,

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Speaker 1: it's not even that because they're not all lying. I

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Speaker 1: they just are finding themselves in a position where they

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Speaker 1: Rob won last season.

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Speaker 2: It's like you couldn't fault him.

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Speaker 1: You could never say, like this person is a good

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Speaker 1: up for grabs, like you could be you could go

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Speaker 1: in pretending with an accent, and you know, if you

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Speaker 2: Won, or you know whatever.

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Speaker 1: Whereas in Survivor there's a level of like you're here

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Speaker 1: to like be your best self, to truly reveal yourself.

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Speaker 1: You're like, we're gonna strip you down. It's like the

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Speaker 1: psychological spermen. We're gonna strip you of your social conventions,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna strip you down, take away all the tools

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Speaker 3: But it's also you listen when when you there's something

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Speaker 2: That's what it is. No one knew what to expect.

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Speaker 3: And it's essentially, let's see if it reverts to Lord

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Speaker 2: Which it is. It still is, but they show none

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Speaker 3: So what it is now is it's reality TV game

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Speaker 3: players who've already played this game before. Yes, who were,

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Speaker 2: It's a set, That's all it is, is a set.

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Speaker 1: It's harder to be on Survivor than it is to

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Speaker 3: But show that if you're going to show the pageantry

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Speaker 3: want to scallop?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 3: Hey, here's because catching scallops. Show me that, show me that,

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Speaker 3: show me the survivor. In Survivor, this was if you

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Speaker 1: Get past like the editing produce orial question, can you

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Speaker 3: Sure, the same way we had to accept they didn't

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Speaker 2: Over produce well for Heaven. But when they're not show

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Speaker 2: making it harder for them, one is making it easier

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Speaker 2: for them. But again, it's all just special. It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: It's all just what they're deciding to show us, and

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Speaker 1: Like that, let's accept the reality that they You know,

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Speaker 1: She's like, let's accept that reality. Could you get into

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Speaker 1: and who's lying? Doesn't that elevate it and make it

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Speaker 2: No, I want to see part of that.

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Speaker 3: If you're gonna say you've got to accept that they're deprived,

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Speaker 2: Then why do I care I just have to.

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Speaker 3: That's like saying, you know, as far as I know,

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Speaker 3: They literally walked over this time and for somebody who

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Speaker 2: Okay, So they're you have access to freshwater. They like,

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Speaker 3: Show me that stuff. And then Rizzo was sleeping in

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Speaker 3: show me these things. Can they fish?

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Speaker 2: Show me? He's honestly, yes, show me this stuff.

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Speaker 3: The idea this is where it's made for people that

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Speaker 2: It it's two things. You have to survive.

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Speaker 3: You have to survive the harshness of the land and

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Speaker 3: now what we're going to do is we're going to

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm asking you, as my fellow co host, to

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Speaker 1: but it's but that it makes.

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Speaker 2: For bad television.

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Speaker 3: Sure, but that's what that's all I'm asking for in

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Speaker 1: But I think it's not bad television for those of

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Speaker 2: Or just accept that that's the given.

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Speaker 1: You know, you talk about the pageantry of traders, right,

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Speaker 2: Do you see what I'm.

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Speaker 3: No, what I'm saying is, as a television fan, afficionado addict.

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Speaker 3: When you came into Traders, you got it right away.

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Speaker 3: That's a show made for people. The show every year

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Speaker 3: Here's what you get, you know, show them cooking a

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Speaker 2: There's no we overcooked this. We didn't catch any fish

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Speaker 1: I honestly think what happened is that their ratings probably

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Speaker 2: I think they didn't I send you that thing? Didn't

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Speaker 2: I send you that thing?

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Speaker 3: That the the Luke whatever, Luke Bryant, Luke Brown? What

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Speaker 3: apparently the lowest rated episode of Survivor in history. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: You lose your fire.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you now have a water filtration system you have

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Speaker 2: Is all it is. It's people.

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Speaker 3: It's I'm seeing a bunch of ten year olds backstabbing

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Speaker 2: And here's what we should do.

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Speaker 3: I have an idol so that that's.

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Speaker 2: All Traders is. That's literally all Traders is.

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Speaker 1: But it literally Traders literally says we're going to take

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Speaker 2: They're playing a game. They're playing.

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Speaker 3: There's children's game where three people, you know, three people

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Speaker 3: are liars, not all twenty six are liars.

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Speaker 1: Well, I totally get your criticism. I just don't see

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Speaker 3: Complete and total difference between a bunch of aventally now

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Speaker 2: They are, which is all traders was again agreed.

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Speaker 3: No, no, I'm talking about Traders, and again a lot of

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Speaker 3: be liars. Yes, it's about who you're going to trust

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Speaker 3: in kind of the fun way. And all the rules

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Speaker 1: Not all the rules are always the same, the rules

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Speaker 1: It's exactly the same. The thing that they do in Survivor, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: now we have a shield. Now we can't, we won't,

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Speaker 1: I agree with everything you're just saying. They're exactly the

438
00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,879
Speaker 1: same show up until when, Like, at what point are

439
00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:39,359
Speaker 1: they different?

440
00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,800
Speaker 2: Because what you described was exactly right. Again, there's a lot,

441
00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,000
Speaker 2: there's a lot a lot different.

442
00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,719
Speaker 3: First of all, there's you get the there's more characters

443
00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,520
Speaker 3: on Traders that are playing into the fact that they're characters.

444
00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,440
Speaker 3: With the pageantry, with the execs, with the glamour, there's

445
00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:55,320
Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff.

446
00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,080
Speaker 1: It's the fact that people on Survivor take themselves seriously

447
00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:58,840
Speaker 1: that bothers you.

448
00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,120
Speaker 3: No, what bothers me is it's a show called Survivor

449
00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,080
Speaker 3: that doesn't show surviving at all.

450
00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,439
Speaker 2: I'm saying, have faith that they are actually no, and

451
00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:06,600
Speaker 2: that the editing is not that.

452
00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,800
Speaker 3: No, I'm not as a viewer who doesn't watch the

453
00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,720
Speaker 3: show need I shouldn't have to call my friend who

454
00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,679
Speaker 3: watches the same show to explain to me the faith

455
00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,200
Speaker 3: of why I need to watch the show.

456
00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,480
Speaker 2: That's a bad television show.

457
00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,439
Speaker 3: I should be able to turn on season four of

458
00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,960
Speaker 3: the Office and not have to call my friend to

459
00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,040
Speaker 3: ask who Michael Scott is or what he's about. You

460
00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,679
Speaker 3: get him right away. You know what's happening. It's a

461
00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,240
Speaker 3: good television show. I didn't need to see the first

462
00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,119
Speaker 3: three seasons to understand what's happening on the show. And

463
00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,840
Speaker 3: when I watch Survivor and again, I'm watching this and

464
00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,240
Speaker 3: I'm like, they're cutting to things specifically just.

465
00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:42,320
Speaker 2: For the fans.

466
00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,119
Speaker 3: And I know, for the record, people are going to

467
00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,240
Speaker 3: go this one's called for the fans by the fans.

468
00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,600
Speaker 3: That's fine, I get that. But then there's a reason

469
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,480
Speaker 3: your ratings are dropping. And from a television standpoint, the

470
00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,040
Speaker 3: ratings are dropping because it's inside the normal people. It's

471
00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,560
Speaker 3: all inside base get it, just I And again it's

472
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,480
Speaker 3: then inside baseball with a lot of characters I just

473
00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:05,520
Speaker 3: don't like.

474
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,760
Speaker 2: So in Traders, you don't you. Oh I love to

475
00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:09,360
Speaker 2: hate that guy.

476
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,560
Speaker 3: Oh I love this person. Oh my god, her accent

477
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,720
Speaker 3: so funny. These people are just kind of despicable. And

478
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 3: so I I'm just I haven't found anybody I'm rooting for.

479
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:22,920
Speaker 3: Literally everybody is so self aggrandizing. Here's the nickname I've

480
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,120
Speaker 3: given myself for this this season. And now I'm this

481
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,160
Speaker 3: and oh my god, Well, don't get too cocky because

482
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,720
Speaker 3: the Dragon's been released and I'm riz the god.

483
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 2: See, that's that's what I like.

484
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,680
Speaker 1: That to me gets to the heart of like, what

485
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,920
Speaker 1: what what I think you have a problem with, which

486
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 1: is that they take themselves seriously and that that that

487
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,679
Speaker 1: they take this if they yes, dude, it's not that

488
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,919
Speaker 1: take the Survivor too, but they are they're just not

489
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, Okay, you're.

490
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 2: Like, they're just not showing the Survivor.

491
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,440
Speaker 1: Part of your criticism of the show as the editing

492
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,960
Speaker 1: and the production totally, like I get it, like it's

493
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 1: working on this meta meta level, it's it's only for

494
00:20:58,680 --> 00:20:59,680
Speaker 1: the fans, totally.

495
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

496
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,919
Speaker 1: But I think that that's separate from your saying like

497
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 1: I don't like these people, or that they're just acting

498
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 1: they're acting like a caddy group of ten year olds

499
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,680
Speaker 1: or whatever that criticism. That's the only part I take

500
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,919
Speaker 1: issue with with what you're saying, because I'm like and

501
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 1: that I take issue with it. It's just my perspective.

502
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 1: And I think this is going back to where we started.

503
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 1: A huge difference between you and I is that I

504
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 1: like when people take themselves seriously. For better or worse,

505
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 1: and I enjoy that way more than I then watching

506
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 1: people play a character version of themselves or come in

507
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 1: with this like you know, level of distancing that allowed,

508
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 1: Like that level of distancing made the gameplay of Traders

509
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,119
Speaker 1: fun for you and made it sort of trivial and

510
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 1: useless for me.

511
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 2: On the flip side, in Survivor, them taking.

512
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 1: Themselves seriously and like thinking that this is revealing their

513
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 1: true selves and like that that they're a god if

514
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 1: they win or not whatever, that makes Survivor tolerable for me,

515
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,120
Speaker 1: whereas for you it makes it intolerable.

516
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 2: But actually we're describing is the same thing.

517
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 1: Like we're watching reality show people compete with one another

518
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 1: and form alliances or trust one another or not.

519
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:06,439
Speaker 2: I don't know.

520
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 3: I agree and I disagree because at the same time,

521
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 3: something like Dungeons and Dragons I take very seriously and

522
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 3: the people I play with get very seriously. But again,

523
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 3: it's either likable, right, But can you play these games

524
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 3: with Alex you got you're famous for playing all these

525
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 3: games that you guys have game nights and do all

526
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 3: this kind of stuff. Do you take it seriously or

527
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 3: you guys having fun?

528
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 2: We're having fun.

529
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 1: No, totally, but yeah, but yeah, but I'm also not

530
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: starving to death in order to do right.

531
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 2: But then it then make that a part of the show.

532
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 2: I can say.

533
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 3: That's the point is, maybe I would like these characters

534
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 3: more if I really, if I'm as a as somebody

535
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 3: who's I'm a I'm on an island of my own,

536
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 3: I'm in a vacuum, and this show is put on

537
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 3: in front of me right now, this season is put

538
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 3: on in front of me. And I don't like Riz

539
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 3: the God, and I don't like Coach, and I don't

540
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 3: like any of these people. But if I've seen now

541
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 3: they haven't eaten eleven days and they're kind of losing

542
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 3: it a bit, I'm gonna I'm gonna forgive them for that,

543
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 3: because I'm gonna be like, dude, he's probably.

544
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 2: Delusional by this point. I mean, actually, what's happening? But

545
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 2: I don't know that I know. The point is, I

546
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 2: don't know.

547
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: But you could keep saying that, like when I close

548
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: my eyes to go to sleep at night, how do

549
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: I know the world doesn't disappear? You keep saying that

550
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 1: we have all the evidence telling us that the reality

551
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: is they are starving.

552
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 2: Will they are struggling, So.

553
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 3: Why don't we just do America? Why don't we do

554
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 3: the Why isn't the next American Idol? Nobody sings? But

555
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 3: we just know they can't. No, no, we know they can't.

556
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 3: Other people have told us they can sing. That we

557
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 3: don't need to see it. We have to know that

558
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 3: off camera they're really good at singing.

559
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: No, it's different reality having to see them practice, like

560
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: because because the comparison is the word, because what they're

561
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: actually competing on is the challenges which we do see

562
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 1: start to finish, and then those determine the tribal councils

563
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: which we do see start to finish.

564
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 3: So those are although that is determined by how weak

565
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 3: you are, how sleep deprived you are, how much you're

566
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 3: you're cold, how much you're wet, how much those.

567
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 1: Are the things that you have to make assumptions about

568
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 1: or you know, coming with the.

569
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 3: And you are just describing how to make a bad

570
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 3: television show. I'm going to make this a super important

571
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 3: part of the show that I'm not going to show

572
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 3: you at all. You just have to assume it's happening.

573
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 3: And I'm saying that's a bad TV show.

574
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 2: All right, let's get into our recap of episode five.

575
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 1: We start off with Ozzy lectured everybody back at camp,

576
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 1: which brings up a parallel to his Cochrane season. Christian

577
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 1: takes the blame for not telling Ozzy, which I thought

578
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 1: was a nice moment that kind of got blown by

579
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: where he's like, hey, don't blame the girls here, I've

580
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 1: been the one that told them not to tell you.

581
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 1: And it was like my first thought was like, that's

582
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: the kind of honor and integrity that like Coach is

583
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 1: always talking about, like that you don't actually see him

584
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 1: do I was like, in this case, Christian was like, hey,

585
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: you know I did. I had this plan. I backstabbed

586
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 1: you and don't blame the girls. I thought that was

587
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: super admirable.

588
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: I agree.

589
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 3: I also was a little scared at first because when

590
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 3: he's like, hey, I'll catch you up and he's like

591
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 3: too late, it's like oh yeah, I mean it's the

592
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 3: first thing he says is just like, no, you missed.

593
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 2: You missed your boat to catch me up.

594
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 3: Dude, And then I felt it because I was like, oh,

595
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 3: I would have been like wow, So then everyone's plotting

596
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 3: against me against me if you're not gonna put I

597
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 3: get the psychological stuff that stuff would it's so.

598
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 1: And yeah, and that's what you can see, like you

599
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: know how like Ozzy you know that after the opening credits,

600
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 1: meditated in the morning, like trying to be like the

601
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: bigger man, but like still feeling his feelings, you know,

602
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: Like so he goes and he apologizes to Christian. They

603
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: hug it out. Ozzie does, Yeah he does. Okay, Yeah,

604
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 1: Ozzie still has his idol.

605
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 2: That was gifted to him.

606
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: I think, by Gene God, I'm losing track of how

607
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: he got it.

608
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 2: The Billie Eilish thing is too hard.

609
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: Yes, you know, he says, it was trying to be Yeah,

610
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 1: so he still got his idol. Okay, Yeah, And I

611
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 1: you know, like I feel this man, like if you

612
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: got if I, if I got backstabbed, I would have

613
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: a hard.

614
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 2: Time just being like gool for or games a game, you.

615
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 3: Know, like cool, but you gotta I have to say something. Yeah,

616
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 3: And it's to your point from before maybe and it's

617
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 3: this is quite possible. This says, Oh my god, this

618
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 3: is I need to talk to a psychiatrist kind of thing.

619
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 3: What this could be bringing me back to is times

620
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 3: in like middle school and high school where you find

621
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 3: out there's a party and your friends were there and

622
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 3: weren't invited. Totally, man, that kind of stuff it brings

623
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 3: Maybe it's the adjuta.

624
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 2: I'm feeling that it brings me back.

625
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: To it and it's real. It's not game friends, dude,

626
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 1: and it feels real. And that's dude. I feel the

627
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: same way. This is This is why I think I

628
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 1: would be really bad at any of these kinds of things.

629
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: Is I take the ship so personally and like.

630
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 2: And you know, like they talk about later on in

631
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 2: this episode.

632
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 1: I think it was Devon's at tribal Council about how

633
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: important it is to see the show that you were on,

634
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: to see how.

635
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 2: Other people react behind your.

636
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: Back, and I was like, yes, that's why I don't

637
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: want to be out of reality because I like living

638
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: in the delusional world where I'm the coolest person and

639
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: like people don't talk about me behind my back and

640
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: no one knows anything about me ever, Like I know

641
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: that's not true, but I also don't want to see it.

642
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it. I don't even This

643
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: is why, like being a public figure sucks so bad,

644
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: Like being on reality. It's like I like, that's what

645
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: I like about being an actor is that you're within

646
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: the context of the movie or the show being Traders,

647
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: but being a famous person. Yeah, Traders, I think you're acting.

648
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 2: That maybe the same.

649
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 3: I'm drawn to it because it's like a caricature of

650
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 3: yourself as opposed to this. But I felt that feeling

651
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 3: of like, and we did it without social media and

652
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 3: where it's nowadays, kids are like, wait, there's a big

653
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 3: party and my two best friends were there and I

654
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 3: didn't get a call. That shit happens all the time,

655
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 3: and so I got that kind of act the man.

656
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I appreciate that honesty. I think that

657
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: that is getting to the heart of something.

658
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 2: Why you can't enjoy this.

659
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe maybe it feels stickier in a way for you. Yeah,

660
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: I agree, man, I it's funny because I'm attracted to

661
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: that ickiness in a way that.

662
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 2: With the gameplay of Traders, I'm just like, who cares?

663
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 3: Like, you know, there's a there's a wink and a

664
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 3: smile with Traders, whereas this seems devious, totally and totally

665
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 3: man and so there's a there's a meanness to the

666
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 3: show that then people are then like, oh, come on,

667
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 3: we're just playing a game, and it's kind of like yeah,

668
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 3: but you slap me in the face so you can.

669
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 2: You're sorry, but it still stings.

670
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: And that's why people carry you know, That's why I

671
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: like in this episode, Charlie is still carrying around that

672
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: weight from his previous season, which totally works against him.

673
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 1: You know, Like he turns on on Rizzo and you

674
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: can see that those lingering feelings, man, like it's real.

675
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 3: It is, Yeah, maybe that's what it is. It's there's

676
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 3: an ickiness to this show that you don't get with Traders.

677
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 2: All right.

678
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: It's over at Cela Jonathan and Charlie and Camilla and Dee,

679
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: who are the original like Calo four, and you've cut

680
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: Rick kissing up to Jonathan. He's trying to be friendly

681
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: with the Calo four and then de goes to Rizzo

682
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: and says, would you want to work with the girls?

683
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: And Rizzo's like yeah, and that of course plays out

684
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: throughout the rest of the episode. Over at Callo, Coach God,

685
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I just love hate so much and when

686
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: you give yourself yes, dude, this is why I can't

687
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: take him seriously. It's like the ultimate douche twat and

688
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: what our pod means world language. I mean, And here's

689
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: the thing, I bet if I met this guy, we'd

690
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: probably get along. You know, he seems smart, he's obviously

691
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: like he's probably like a great person of your love.

692
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: But on Survivor, it just.

693
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: Seems like he can't resist slipping into this like cheeseball

694
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: leadership role. I mean, obviously you call himself coach like

695
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: you are already like he's already given himself the nickname

696
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: of coach. Now he's got to like triple down. He

697
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: has the old nickname of dragons layer. Now he's going

698
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: to be the tide walker. And I just want to

699
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: shoot this guy and then myself for having.

700
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 2: Listened to this guy.

701
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 3: And the old proverb, it's the old proverb of the

702
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: the the wannabe leader who sees his entire population of

703
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 3: people running in one direction, he says, oh, there go

704
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 3: my people. I have to find out where they're going

705
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: so I can lead them.

706
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: Yes, that's exactly that's what it's like. I like that

707
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 2: proverb that like, let me just jump in front of

708
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: them and raise my hand and find out where they're

709
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 2: going so I can lead them.

710
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,959
Speaker 1: Yes, But then also, it's just like you know, cult

711
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: number one, like cult rule number one, rename people. It

712
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: really is like if you look at any cult throughout history,

713
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: when they get to the point where they're like, I'm

714
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: going to call you this, you are a man guard

715
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: this yeah, and then you just he literally knights them.

716
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: He goes to Joe and he's like, and I can

717
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: just see this is what he does. Man, he just

718
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: creates a cult around himself and I can't And you know,

719
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: these guys are so nice. I can see it on

720
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: Colby's face. He's just like, sure, whatever, Japanese folklore.

721
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: Wasn't expecting that.

722
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: And then he's like, I'm flattered, and it's like I

723
00:30:58,760 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: would totally be the same guy.

724
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: I'd be like, sure, coach, I'll be your oak bound warrior.

725
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: But then if you call me that again in front

726
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: of people, I'm gonna say, like, dude, like, let's chill.

727
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, not other people give you nicknames, dude. Such a

728
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 2: cult like it's I was just like, oh, I'm a sidewalker,

729
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 2: Like okay, exactly right.

730
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: So then Aubrey and Tif forgetting along, and Aubrey knows

731
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: that Genevieve wants her out. This is going to be

732
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: the rivalry to you know, I'm sure he's going to

733
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: play out throughout the rest.

734
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: Of the season.

735
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: So Aubrey goes to Coach and makes good with Coach

736
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: because he's the cult leader.

737
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 2: Everybody's gonna have to make good with Coach.

738
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 3: People don't seem to like Aubrey for some she just

739
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 3: always seems like she's on the outs.

740
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: Well, you know, she's usually she's typically been the underdog,

741
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: and here she is the underdog again. But usually it

742
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: was because she was sort of nerdy and like not that,

743
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: and in this case, I guess that's playing into it,

744
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: but it seems more like Genevieve just doesn't trust her,

745
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: like she might just think she's a good player. Therefore,

746
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to play with this person. You know,

747
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: she's gonna backstam me, which is a little unfair. But yeah,

748
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: I feel like I would be the Aubrey on this tribe.

749
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: I'd be looking around being like all these you know,

750
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: dude bros playing with honor and integrity and giving ourselves

751
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: oak bound nicknames, and like like coaches isn't nicknaming the girls? No,

752
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: He's not going on being like I bless you, No,

753
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: they haven't earned one yet. The tide Walker has not

754
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: bestowed upon him.

755
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 3: All.

756
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: Right over at Cela, Charlie is still spinning his wheels

757
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: out over.

758
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 3: Get rid of one said no man, and I get

759
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 3: I get why where he's like, you didn't vote for

760
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 3: the number your number one person to win, Like you

761
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 3: didn't win, I know, and you have to vote for

762
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 3: one person winning, you don't vote for your number one.

763
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: But here's the irony is that Sophie was the number

764
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: one that Charlie's talking about. And Sophie was on this show,

765
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: and she loves Rizzo for Rizzo, so it's Charlie's baggage

766
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: more than this is actually that Rizzo did something wrong, do.

767
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

768
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: Like he wasn't bothered at all that her her friends

769
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: don't if she didn't know.

770
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: She's still best friends with him.

771
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: She's like the way that she talked about it on

772
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: our show is like totally cool, like just loves him

773
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: and is hoping he wins. So I think it's just yeah,

774
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: it's just Charlie spinning out. And what I love is

775
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: the way that this plays out. So he goes to Rizzo,

776
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: asks him, you know, wakes him up. In the boat

777
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: and says, like, who did you tell about the Billy

778
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: Eilish thing, the Billie idol. Charlie says, then, well, you know,

779
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: because he tells him Rizzo's honest with him. He's like, oh,

780
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: I told d And then Charlie says, well, I told Jonathan,

781
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: which isn't true, right, just to have like one up

782
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: on Rizzo, which Rizzo then sees through doesn't believe. So

783
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: that turns everybody on Charlie this one moment. So it's

784
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: actually like Charlie's paranoia about Rizzo completely backfires and makes

785
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: it a reality. You see what I'm saying, Like Charlie

786
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: had just been like you know what, I'm gonna be

787
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: the better person. I'm going to assume the best of Rizzo,

788
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have been voted out this episode.

789
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 2: And like you see it in this moment, don't do

790
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: anything completely out of character.

791
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 3: Who goes and wakes up, don't knock on my boat

792
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: at five point fifteen in the morning, totally like like, dude,

793
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 3: that's even it's really aggressive, it was too weird.

794
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't do anything weird.

795
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: No, yes, yes, And it just goes to show that

796
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: like when you're paranoid. If you activate it, you can

797
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: make it a reality, do you know what I mean? Like,

798
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 1: that's if everybody's against me, then oh my god, guess what.

799
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: Eventually everybody's going to be against you?

800
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: Did you keep acting? All right?

801
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: So then Rizzo goes and tells D that he is

802
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: the idol. He goes and gets.

803
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: Siri on board, So now he has this alliance with Camilla, D.

804
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: Siri, and him, which is great gameplay, you know, as

805
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: much as like Rizzo's honestly kind of annoying to me,

806
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 1: I like Charlie better as a person, I think based

807
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: on what we see edited wise, at this point, I

808
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 1: was like, Rizz is playing a good game.

809
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 3: I was when it comes to Rizzo, I find him

810
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 3: incredibly annoying. But then I realized he's also really young,

811
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 3: absolutely talk about self adizing.

812
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: Onl find himself and probably hungry as hell.

813
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's it's that kind of stuff where it's like,

814
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be the best player ever in the history

815
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 3: of and he's.

816
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: Just so high on his own supply from season forty nine,

817
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: he's just like.

818
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 2: Jeff said this to me, and Jeff said this, and

819
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 2: not even to be Jef yeah, yeah, it is all right.

820
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: So we get to the challenge.

821
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: Everyone's shocked that Mike White was voted out, which got

822
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: I gotta remember it's one day later, like you think

823
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: about like how this game is going, you know, like

824
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 1: they're they're showing up with this immunity challenge and they're like, oh,

825
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: Mike's gone. What well?

826
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 2: No, I'm just thinking.

827
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 3: A joke came into my head that perfectly sums up

828
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 3: Rizzo to me. Do you remember the joke of the

829
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 3: It's the Old Bowl with the young Bull.

830
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: No. Oh, so there's an old there's a.

831
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 3: Father bowl, and a and a and a son bowl

832
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 3: on the top of a cliff and they look down

833
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 3: and they see, you know, cows everywhere, and the young

834
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 3: bull looks up and says, Dad, I'm gonna run down

835
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 3: there and one of those cows.

836
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 2: And the dad looks at him and says, son, let's

837
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 2: walk down there and them all. And that's what it

838
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 2: seems like to me with Rizzo, like he's like, I'm

839
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: so excited, I'm gonna win, I'm gonna do all this,

840
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: and you haven't. Oh god, it's been around forever. She's

841
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 2: so old. But it's true. It's like patient proverb proverbs

842
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: are you are the proverb walker.

843
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 3: I have to give myself a nickname rider. I'll find

844
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 3: out what it is, all right.

845
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: So this challenge is they got to swim to coconut bags.

846
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:38,720
Speaker 1: Untie them, grab some keys to the platform. So crazy,

847
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 1: al right, challenge starts. Jonathan and Nazzi take the lead.

848
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: Joe struggling a little bit. He's gassed, as Charlie says,

849
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,439
Speaker 1: which I was surprised by. I was like, dude, Yeah.

850
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 3: You know, muscle like lean a lot of times, especially

851
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 3: when you're not getting calories and sustenance.

852
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 2: Big muscles is not great. The big problem.

853
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, you see people struggle with this ship all the time,

854
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: like the big guys because they've been eating a lot

855
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: and building muscle.

856
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: That's again, starve yourself, ye.

857
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 3: Starving somebody like Rizzo's body type could could be way

858
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 3: better there than somebody liked the Giant's body exactly exactly.

859
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: So Kalo does start to fall behind, but then Tiff

860
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: does this rope wit move killing ass Is that killing

861
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: the coolest thing? And like, I think that literally wins

862
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: them the challenge. Yeah, because she does that, which catches

863
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: them up almost immediately.

864
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 2: Well, did you notice the other thing she did.

865
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 3: She wasn't going one bag at a time, she wasn't

866
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 3: opening a bag and dumping it. She undid all the

867
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 3: bags and she just did one motion, grabbed the next

868
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 3: one the next question that instead of stopping to dump

869
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 3: the bags so then she could dump them all.

870
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 2: It was brilliant, so cool.

871
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 1: I wonder if she like practiced that or just discovered

872
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: it in the moment, but it was awesome to see

873
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: and I love it.

874
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: Even Jeff is like, yeah, yeahs man, she called you're right.

875
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 2: I think she want it for them.

876
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: I think so because she did that and then coach

877
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: gets it with a grappling nook on his first toss,

878
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: so that like it was just like, oh okay, and

879
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: I put them in the lead.

880
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: Sure enough they also, I hear your voice in my

881
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 3: head every time I see these and this is brilliant.

882
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 3: Two things this show that are genius, Jeff Probes is

883
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 3: amazing ye And the fact that you do need everybody

884
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 3: to do these challenges and everybody can do these challenges

885
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 3: and the sections that they have. It's not go lift

886
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 3: big Boulder all the time totally, and that is really brilliant.

887
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: The way it's yeah, and it's taken them a while.

888
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: We are going to have my old friend Miles and

889
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: I who was I talked about him as somebody who

890
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: developed games for Survivor or challenges. I don't know if

891
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: he still does it, but I know he did it

892
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: and he reached out. So we're going to have him

893
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: on our show. I cannot wait to get some of

894
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: the behind the scenes of how this stuff has developed,

895
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: because it's definitely progressed over time. All right, So now

896
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: we're having a double elimination too, you know, and this

897
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: is what happens. They have to start eventually evening and

898
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: announce so it's not just on team constantly losing. So yeah,

899
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: you know, before the merge, you start doing these double eliminations.

900
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: So now over at Cela, Charlie you know, recaps his game.

901
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: He needs Camilla on his side in order to make

902
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: his liance a four. He lies to her, says Kyle

903
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: told me to play with Camilla, which she doesn't believe.

904
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: And I was like, I was watching with Indy. I

905
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 1: was like, see, don't lie, dude, because this is the

906
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: second time now where lies have backfired in this episode.

907
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's also an unnecessary lie. I why lie there?

908
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 3: Just be like, I want to play with you. I

909
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: think this would be great. We're strong together, we could

910
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 3: work together. Why make an unnecessary lie? You never lie

911
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 3: when you don't have to.

912
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: And sure enough, when Charlie goes back to Camilla and

913
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: finally tells her about the idol, which is the good

914
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: thing that they have, like, she says, well, your game

915
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 1: is slow, Rizzo already told yeah, so yeah, it's bad

916
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 1: all right. Over Atvatu, Christian is aiming for Angelina and

917
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: Ozzy doesn't feel that he can trust and he asks

918
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 1: Christian to give him his shot in the dark, which

919
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 1: is you probably don't understand that. I knew.

920
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: I knew it was something like a bonus, but I

921
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 2: don't know what a shot.

922
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: No, It's sort of like if you are pretty positive

923
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: that you're going to get voted out, that you're going

924
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: to get blindsided rather than voting.

925
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: In other words, you give up your vote. I think

926
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: that's how words.

927
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: You give up your vote and then you get a

928
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: shot in the dark, which means basically you have a

929
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: I think it's one in six chance of stay of

930
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: being gaining immunity.

931
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: I think it's yeah, so it's a one in six chance.

932
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: It's like basically rolling a six sided dice that you

933
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 1: will just survive no matter what before you know, before

934
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: the vote, and then nobody can vote for you.

935
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 2: So it's like basically if you go to it's a way.

936
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: So like if you're sitting on a tribe and there's

937
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: you know, it's a it's because the problem if you didn't,

938
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: if you before they had shot in the darks, what

939
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: could conceive what we happened It did happen a few

940
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: times is that the whole trib would get together and

941
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: they'd be like, well, we all hate person X, you know,

942
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: and there's five of us and one of them, so

943
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: they just say, person X, we're sorry, we're all voting

944
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,479
Speaker 1: for you. And they could just say that and it'd

945
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 1: be no gameplay for the rest of the episode because

946
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: then Person X would just be like, well, I'm screwed,

947
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: and they do anything about the majority just votes for them,

948
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: and you could just get everybody to agree we all

949
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: hate person X, get them out. And so the shot

950
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: in the Dark subverts that possibility because person X can

951
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: play their shot in the Dark and still have a

952
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 1: one six chance of just that, and then that's cool.

953
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: So it's a very important gameplay that they had to introduce.

954
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: I think it's only been like ten seasons or maybe

955
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: a little bit more. But until before that, yeah, it

956
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: was just like majority rule. It would just be like, hey,

957
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 1: let's all get together and decide. So it's a very

958
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: important gameplay. But yeah, so I found this interesting, you know,

959
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: And I love the way that you know, Ozzy is

960
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: he's kind of like cheesy in this way.

961
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, he.

962
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: Just wants you to prove that you I can trust you, right,

963
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: And you know, I love that Christian calls it this

964
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: like ritual of subservience to Ozzie of the Island, and

965
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: I was like, it's true though, And I have to

966
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: say it plays like Christian does give his shot in

967
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: the dark to Ozzie.

968
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 3: But only after somebody comes up to him and says,

969
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 3: Ozzie's gunning for you. And then he was like, all right,

970
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 3: the the only move I have left is that I

971
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 3: have to give them the shot in the dark.

972
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all I got. And it works out, it

973
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 2: really it is.

974
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 4: And I actually think that between last episode and this episode,

975
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 4: I hope that Ozzie can see how much Christian went

976
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 4: through in these two episodes, and that the two of

977
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 4: them actually have formed a pretty awesome alliance if they

978
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 4: if they if they're willing to forgive each other like

979
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 4: they did exactly, they ritualistically played out what they needed

980
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 4: to have like an incredible alliance together.

981
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if Ozzy's going to see it that way.

982
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:32,439
Speaker 2: I think Christian does.

983
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 3: Like but again, it's the second you get somebody does

984
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 3: something super sketchy like they started this episode with, there's

985
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 3: always going to be that seed of doubt, like now

986
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 3: I have to I have to think about everything you

987
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 3: say to me because you left me out of something

988
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 3: really major.

989
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 2: But see, that's what I think giving it.

990
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: When Christian gives him the shot in the dark, that's

991
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: a way to say, like, I'm I'm giving you something

992
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: major now.

993
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,479
Speaker 2: I hope that because I like both of them.

994
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,919
Speaker 1: They're very different players, but I actually like the two

995
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: of them, so i'd like to see that work out.

996
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 2: You know.

997
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: I also like Emily, who is you know, once they

998
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: merge that they're going to have each other.

999
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 2: I think still is my favorite. I think Ozzie's my favorite.

1000
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 2: I like him a lot.

1001
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 3: I think he's I mean again, I'm trying to find

1002
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 3: favorites and trying to find people to root for. I

1003
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 3: like him, but again and again, not to keep harping

1004
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 3: on this, I just wish I knew the backstory is

1005
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 3: better of all the people, because then I'm sure I

1006
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 3: think you told me that Ozzie's like come close, but

1007
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 3: they keep voting him out after just keeping everyone fed. Like, like,

1008
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 3: knowing all that stuff would make me root for people more.

1009
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 2: So I get it.

1010
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 3: But you know, maybe in the future, Survivor, if you're listening,

1011
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 3: maybe do a bonus episode, Maybe put it up online.

1012
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 3: Maybe do something where it's a recap of all the

1013
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 3: characters you're bringing back and all this stuff holding on,

1014
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 3: so as somebody who doesn't know the show can go

1015
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 3: in knowing the backstories of everybody, knowing what's going on.

1016
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 2: For you, eisode of absolutely and do that episode if

1017
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 2: you want to put it up on CBS.

1018
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 3: Great, if you just want to put it online, But

1019
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 3: it would be super helpful to have that kind of

1020
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 3: road map.

1021
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 2: I agree, man, I wonder if they actually do and

1022
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 2: we just don't know that that's super possible. CBS website

1023
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: that's dedicated to map catch me up on Survivor dot Com.

1024
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 2: You idiot. Oh sorry, they made it just for wil Ford.

1025
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 2: Now it's will for those primers. CBS produced this What

1026
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 2: are you talking? They did this show? What are you doing?

1027
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, but no, I do Now question is is

1028
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 3: this in perpetuity? Now he has this thing and he

1029
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 3: has to give it away.

1030
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: It's not like I think he just gave it to

1031
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: him for this vote and then he'll give it back.

1032
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 2: So it's just every Yeah, I'm assuming unless he's gonna

1033
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: steal his.

1034
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 3: He could turn around and be like, no, I'm just

1035
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 3: keeping it.

1036
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 2: You can't touch it.

1037
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: Go ahead, grab grab it, go get it, go get it,

1038
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: Come on, come up, all right. So then Rizzo tells

1039
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: SII that he has an idol, and she returns the

1040
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 1: favor by telling him that she has the extra vote

1041
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: from Ozzie, which I totally forgot about. By the way,

1042
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: this is when the very first one read first thing

1043
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: is like, don't give me the pot. So he but

1044
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: I didn't realize. I forgot that he gave that vote

1045
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 1: to Siri as a show of like.

1046
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 2: Hey, yes, okay, I don't.

1047
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: I totally didn't even remember that. So she says she

1048
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: has extra which is great. So that's what I really

1049
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: do think that, like, right now we're heading towards this

1050
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: place where if Christian and Ozzy can oversee their differences.

1051
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: You've got Christian, Ozzy, Emily and Surrie who might be

1052
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: working together, which is like an incredible team before Emily,

1053
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: Emily is the sort of nerdy girl with Ozzy and Christian.

1054
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: She's the one who can't keep her mouth shut, who

1055
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: keeps blurting out like.

1056
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: Oh got she's a very good player.

1057
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 2: Actually yeah.

1058
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: And and and if those guys that they can keep

1059
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: their alliance that team before, because once they merge, they

1060
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: got to deal with all the other people. And I

1061
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: feel like because Sirie is such a good player and

1062
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: she's been kind of flying under the radar, but.

1063
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing.

1064
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 3: I feel like, the way to win this is you

1065
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 3: kind of you you connect yourself with with a strong team,

1066
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 3: but then you kind of become a leaf on the wind.

1067
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 3: And because she's not notice she's not throwing out who

1068
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 3: they should vote for, She's like, who are voting for

1069
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 3: this week? And either Ozzie or it's usually Christian come

1070
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 3: up with here's.

1071
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: What she's like.

1072
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 3: Okay, And so I think you do that for as

1073
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 3: long as you can, until then you've got to start

1074
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 3: playing exactly.

1075
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: And then look at the the and Ozzie says it,

1076
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: the three of them have been to every single tribal.

1077
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: Yes, those three crazy.

1078
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: So think about that trauma bonding though going into the

1079
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: rest of the show, they're like they're survivors.

1080
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 2: They have survived together.

1081
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 1: I think that's going to be really instrumental moving forward,

1082
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: which is going to be fun to see, you know.

1083
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: I mean, because think about they're gonna be on the

1084
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: same tribe as Coach probably next episode actually, I know

1085
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: because of the review said that their merging next one,

1086
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: So like they're going to be dealing with people, you know,

1087
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: and see this.

1088
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: I'll get there, God, I'll get it. So all right.

1089
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 1: So Rizzo is then bragging about his game on forty nine,

1090
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 1: which starts turning people off and I turning me off.

1091
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:53,919
Speaker 2: I was like, dude, just keep your mouth shut.

1092
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: Be cool. And it turns out that Camilla is sort

1093
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: of the swing vote between her four alliance and this

1094
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: alliance that she has with Syria and.

1095
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 2: D and Rizzo. Which way is she gonna go? I

1096
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 2: was pretty surprised.

1097
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: I was like, she's gonna stick with her original and

1098
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: it didn't work out that way.

1099
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: We get to tribal Jeff Probes. You know, he's.

1100
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: Really just like coming to his own as a like

1101
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: he's he's like, he's rapping now, he's doing impersonations. Stick

1102
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 1: with the impersonations. N give you the music, buddy.

1103
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 2: But god, he's good at this. I mean, man, he's

1104
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 2: good at this.

1105
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 3: He also so I have to imagine from the way

1106
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 3: he runs the tribal councils, he's getting constant intel of

1107
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 3: the inside stuff that's going on on the island because

1108
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 3: he's asking the right questions to the right.

1109
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: That's why I thought he had an earpiece, dude. I

1110
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: was sure that there were producers in his ear helping him,

1111
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: like every news anchor has or whatever to do there.

1112
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 2: But no, he's literally flying out there.

1113
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: And you know, these tribal councils are much longer than

1114
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: they actually show you there he was running this room,

1115
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: this fireplace. But he's running this this fire circle without

1116
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: without any help. So even if they are telling him, yeah,

1117
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're giving him the download of like what

1118
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: happened that day, it might.

1119
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 2: Even be watching.

1120
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 3: He might be watching the feeds of what's going on

1121
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 3: on the watching the footage because it's like, oh, they're

1122
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 3: in the line, just keeping track of everybody's be insane,

1123
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 3: Like I still don't know, I know, I still don't know.

1124
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 2: I know. So yeah, No, he's very good at this job.

1125
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: And getting to sit in a probably really nice hotel

1126
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: room every night.

1127
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 2: Well, these people somewhere in Fiji, Yeah, just being fed grapes.

1128
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: I remember somebody saying that they saw they saw an

1129
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 1: interview with him or talk and he was just like

1130
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: describing the smell, like just the way that people smell

1131
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: after thirty days.

1132
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 2: I was like, oh right, these are people like you know, yeah.

1133
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,720
Speaker 3: That's when you're bathing yourself in like the fishy ocean

1134
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 3: right near you, where there's clams and mollusc Yeah, you're

1135
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 3: probably not smelling like roses at this point.

1136
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: All right.

1137
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: So first tribal kind of goes like that, you know,

1138
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: there's this slight implication that maybe they're going to turn

1139
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,439
Speaker 1: on Ozzy. It turns out it's kind of faded there.

1140
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: They're just sticking with their original. Angelina's out, which is fine.

1141
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: I mean, she has not played a huge part of

1142
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: the show, so I don't really have feelings one way

1143
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: or another. I was watching with Indy he can't tell

1144
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: the difference between Angelina and Stephanie, which I kind of

1145
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: agree with.

1146
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 2: I was like, Yeah, they haven't developed these people. They

1147
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 2: haven't stood out enough.

1148
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: You know.

1149
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 2: I know a lot about Zach Brown. Yep, I know

1150
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 2: a lot about him, cook his fish. I know a

1151
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: lot about I don't.

1152
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 3: Know the players on the show, but I could tell

1153
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 3: you three of Zach brown songs and how he likes

1154
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 3: to spend his weekends.

1155
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1156
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 2: So, yeah, I know what you're saying. Man, they really screwed.

1157
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 3: They've really That was There was a big backlash against

1158
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 3: that too. There was a lot of stuff online about.

1159
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 2: Like, I know, I made that joke.

1160
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: I was like, Jesus, do we need a whole commercial?

1161
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: But it turns out everybody felt the same way. It's

1162
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: a little uh yeah. I think that they've gotten a

1163
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: little ahead of themselves or or something. They've lost a

1164
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 1: little sight of like who there who they're playing to?

1165
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,439
Speaker 1: You know, it's like people. Yeah, I I think there's

1166
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: like survivor nerddom, and I feel like they're getting a

1167
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: little too into their nerd.

1168
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 3: Exactly what this is I get about for the fans.

1169
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 3: I get this is a show for the fans by

1170
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 3: the fans this season. I understand that. But you'd think

1171
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 3: the fans would want to bring in more fans.

1172
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 2: And the way that you do that is you you

1173
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 2: open it up.

1174
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 3: And then I think, so, you've got the Billie Eilish,

1175
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 3: she's a fan. They're bringing fans onto the island. It's

1176
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 3: like I've been watching it, so I get the whole season.

1177
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: By the way, why hasn't Billy Eilish popped in, like

1178
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: even with just like a video, Is she going to

1179
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: show up at the end, Like I'm maybe so, Like

1180
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: she obviously is a fan, lends her name to this

1181
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: ible thing, but I thought maybe there'd be like a

1182
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: message from her, like a video message like here I

1183
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: am good luck and there's nothing. I'm like, does she

1184
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: just refuse to do it? Was she just like no,

1185
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: I love it, but I'm not gonna.

1186
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be out of the camera.

1187
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe maybe like in the last thing, she'll be there.

1188
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: Or she'll perform at the final Maybe it's super interesting though,

1189
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: like because I don't know Billy Eilish all that way,

1190
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 1: Like I'm not I just know some of her songs,

1191
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: but I know that like her whole jam is like

1192
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,720
Speaker 1: much more about like being authentic and like not showy.

1193
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: Like she's like her whole thing is like she's just

1194
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 1: wide open with her fans. It's like she she rips

1195
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: her heart out on stage and she's like like hugs everybody.

1196
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: So I wonder if she's just like not cool with

1197
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: being on a reality show. Yeaes say, Zach Brown is like,

1198
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: make me look cool with my twelve foot long kid,

1199
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: I got it. Have you seen the size of my

1200
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: man things? All right? Second, Tribal just comes down to

1201
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: this battle between Rizzo and Charlie and yeah, like you

1202
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: know they everything they say at Tribal was fine but

1203
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: gave no hint of which way it was gonna go.

1204
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, let me set the mood.

1205
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh my god, I know.

1206
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,720
Speaker 1: And they time it perfectly so that they when somebody

1207
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: says something slightly dramatically, I.

1208
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 2: Know, man, it's so cheesy. It's true. It's so turned

1209
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 2: the music down. Please, it is just.

1210
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 3: And with the Tiki Tour, it just it looks like

1211
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 3: there honestly looks like you're waiting in line for the

1212
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 3: Indiana Jones, Right, I.

1213
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 5: Know, I know it's yeah, you could say I think

1214
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 5: it was more problematic when the show started because they

1215
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 5: would lean into the tribalism even worse.

1216
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: Uh. Now I think it's a little more just like

1217
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: it's its own survivor style. Right, It's like, you know,

1218
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily like one culture versus another.

1219
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 2: It's like it's just kind of a blend. Right, it's

1220
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 2: the Pokies from from ploys it.

1221
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 1: Totally, which is maybe more offensive because it's like somewhat Aboriginal,

1222
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: somewhat Native Americans, somewhat Island. It's f it's just blah

1223
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: anything that's not white. Hey, but it's nice. It's savage,

1224
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: it's not civilized.

1225
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a little but it is.

1226
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 3: I'm just waiting for the guy to come on and

1227
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 3: be like, it's a forty five minute wait for the

1228
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 3: Indiana Joe's ride.

1229
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 2: So you sit back like, okay, I get it.

1230
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: Make sure you're wearing your seatbelts for the trial, and

1231
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: do it in Spanish, right, or you know what they

1232
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: do at Disneyland.

1233
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 2: They always when the ride breaks down, they say it

1234
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 2: in theme.

1235
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: They're always like, you know, those have hijacked with the

1236
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 1: Haunted Mansion rides. What would survivaling and be like, yeah,

1237
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: a tribe of natives has taken over the tribal council.

1238
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 2: We don't have to wait forty five minutes until so true.

1239
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 2: That's one of the best days I've ever had at

1240
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 2: Disneyland or Disney World. I was, I was with you.

1241
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: Don't happened. I was doing the.

1242
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 3: Big Country Mountain whatever broke down and we were in

1243
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 3: the booth when it broke down, and they let me

1244
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 3: do the.

1245
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 2: Sorry folks, looks like I was not with you. I

1246
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 2: swear to god you were. I was like, can I

1247
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 2: do the announcement.

1248
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 3: Both because we had we were back dooring everything at

1249
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 3: that point, and they're like, yeah, come on and see

1250
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 3: how we're Everyone know what I mean.

1251
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:16,240
Speaker 2: So I don't know you were at Big I was there.

1252
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 3: I swear to God you are with me. And the

1253
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 3: ride broke down and the microphones right there. It's like,

1254
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 3: can I do the stuff? And he's like sure, And

1255
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 3: it was seriously me going like.

1256
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 2: Well, oh, folks, looks like we got a little problem

1257
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 2: searching for gold. Like that guy was like making stuff up.

1258
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 2: It was so I love it. Oh, that's so cool.

1259
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, it would be that for Survivor.

1260
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: Too bad we didn't have cameras back, they would have

1261
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: had footage of that, right.

1262
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 2: Like exactly, it's great, all right, Well, uh, tribal ends

1263
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 2: with Charlie getting voted out. I was surprised. I thought

1264
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 2: I thought they were doomed. Yeah, me too, bombed, me too.

1265
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 3: You're feeding into this dude's ego about how he's the

1266
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 3: greatest of all time.

1267
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not better than the Tidewalker.

1268
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 1: And I guess this is Charlie's first time because he

1269
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: the last season that he played, he made it to

1270
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: the final three, so the only time he's ever been

1271
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: voted out.

1272
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 2: So that's what he says, and he's like, guess, and

1273
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 2: now I.

1274
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: Know what it's like to have my uh my smoke

1275
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: trapped in as Indy would say, exactly, smoking chapter smoking.

1276
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 2: So the last it makes it to a final three, Yeah.

1277
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: There's sometimes some seasons has been four, some seasons it

1278
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: has been two.

1279
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think it's been a final three now.

1280
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 3: So then you're obviously not voted out. It's just somebody

1281
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 3: of that group wins.

1282
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, gotcha.

1283
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, But it gets really interesting when you get to

1284
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: the final three because one person wins immunity in order

1285
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: to guarantee.

1286
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:41,479
Speaker 2: That they're in the final three. And then god, so wait,

1287
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 2: maybe it doesn't.

1288
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not gonna pretend I know what's going on,

1289
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: because everything I say will just make our listeners scream

1290
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: at the radio.

1291
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

1292
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: Will it's gonna be exciting, You're gonna you're gonna be excited.

1293
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 1: What it comes down to often is that they make

1294
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: people go to fire, so it becomes a fire building

1295
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: contest for the final position. Yeah.

1296
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, because if you.

1297
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: Can build a fire, and they have like a rope

1298
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: above like like like a full foot and a half

1299
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: above the fire, and you have to build a fire

1300
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: that's sustained long enough to burn through the rope, and

1301
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: then whoever builds the fire long enough to burn through

1302
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: the rope gets to go into the final three. Yeah,

1303
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: that's super interesting, you'll see. But that's why I like,

1304
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 1: why you would ever go into Survivor without knowing how

1305
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 1: to make fire backwards and forwards in any condition.

1306
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's like a you got to make fire,

1307
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 2: you got to make shelters, Like that's the most important

1308
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 2: all right.

1309
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: Well, I feel like we started off with you being

1310
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: very uh, you know, against the show, just with your criticism,

1311
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: but through the course of our recap, I feel like

1312
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:42,879
Speaker 1: you got a little back into it. We can.

1313
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 3: I just I want and I know that our listener

1314
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,919
Speaker 3: is going to, uh say to me, you got because

1315
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 3: I'm seeing the comments a lot of people are like,

1316
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 3: go back and watch you earlier seasons.

1317
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1318
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 3: So I just think at this point with the season,

1319
00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 3: and I get it, it's about the fans and buy

1320
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 3: the and so it's it's just the gameplay. But I

1321
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 3: think they're missing the balance that would bring in a

1322
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 3: new audience. And I think they're seeing that with the

1323
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 3: numbers where it's like that's that's all it is is

1324
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 3: there's no it's just Caddy people now. And I'd like

1325
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 3: to know again I can give you a pass on

1326
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 3: some of the things you're saying, knowing that you've had

1327
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 3: three grains of rice in the last week and a half.

1328
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 3: I want to see that SEUs spent the entire thing

1329
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 3: just going like what happened to the chickens? Are the

1330
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 3: chicken they do? Do they eat all the chickens? Are

1331
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 3: they there for the eggs?

1332
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 2: What happened to the chickens.

1333
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 5: Here?

1334
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 2: What are you stuff?

1335
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: Here are two things that I hope happened this season

1336
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: that have that have that have happened in seasons past

1337
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: and then also not been a part of seasons past,

1338
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: and I'm hoping that the fans have voted for these

1339
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: two things to happen. One is they have what's called

1340
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: Survivor Auction, which is they give them cash, like literally

1341
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: can hand them all cash, equal amounts of cash, and

1342
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: then bring up objects which are mostly going to be

1343
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: food but sometimes disgusting things, but you just get it

1344
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: like a cake, you know, a cake band. So you

1345
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: just see like this thing, you don't know what's in it,

1346
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: and they vote they spend their money to like and

1347
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: sometimes it's like you get an octopus eye and they

1348
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: have to eat that if they want it or they can't,

1349
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: or it'll be like a chocolate cake or a fries

1350
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: and beer, and you get to see these people lose

1351
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: their shit over and you really yeah, So that's something

1352
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: that's super fun and it hasn't been in every season.

1353
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 2: I hope the fans order for that.

1354
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: The other one is they bring their family members to

1355
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: nice and and they have these moments where they you know,

1356
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: they get to reunite with somebody either their husband, their wife,

1357
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: their child, their mom, somebody from them, and you see

1358
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: these people lose their minds because they really are struggling,

1359
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: and you see them like they're just they just fall

1360
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: apart and hugging their person, and then you get to

1361
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: see them have a moment or two if they win

1362
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: the chance. Often what the reward challenges is, like the

1363
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: result is you either get to spend a couple hours

1364
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: with your family or you don't.

1365
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 2: So people don't get.

1366
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: To spend time with their family and they're like and

1367
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: they just lose their shit, or they get to spend

1368
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 1: time alone with them and you see them communicating with

1369
00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: their person from back home, and you get to see

1370
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 1: the real because there's there's no strategy and they're just like, mom,

1371
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: I'm scared to be out here by myself.

1372
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 2: These people hate me and.

1373
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: You get to see like, So I think that would

1374
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: help you understand how severe it is for them. And

1375
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: so those are like two of my favorite things that

1376
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,439
Speaker 1: haven't been a part of every season. So I really

1377
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: hope they do that this season because it is a month. Yeah,

1378
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: it's like thirty.

1379
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 2: Days okay, yeah, okay, yeah, well so we're only a

1380
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 2: quarter the way through.

1381
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got one segment. Uh, this is, of course

1382
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 3: Will's history of the People.

1383
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 2: That's stuff. I got one today. And you're gonna say,

1384
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 2: Will Friedle, you're a liar, but I'm not. This is

1385
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 2: Vesna Volovic, Vesna Volovic.

1386
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: It's weird that even though you know this off the

1387
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: top of your head, you have a hard time pronouncing.

1388
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 2: And I have a weird thing. It's called pronunciation brain

1389
00:59:54,240 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 2: matter problems. More p b MP. Where did you just

1390
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 2: close your eyes and say the name again? Like if

1391
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 2: you reach it, I can. There's the Velovac.

1392
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: I feel like you're still keeping the one eye opens.

1393
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 2: The Volovac is her name? Okay, Yeah.

1394
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 3: She was a Serbian flight attendant who survived the highest

1395
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 3: fall ever without a parachute.

1396
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 2: Wait didn't we already do this one? Nope, different, lady,

1397
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 2: We did this one. She fell in Peru into the Okay,

1398
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 2: this is different, lady.

1399
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 3: This is the highest Guinness highest fall ever without a parachute,

1400
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 3: because the other lady you remember fell from ten thousand

1401
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 3: feet and survived.

1402
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 2: Yes, is even higher. Thirty three thousand, three hundred and

1403
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 2: thirty feet or cruising out to two point three one

1404
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,439
Speaker 2: miles she fell into?

1405
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 3: What?

1406
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 2: Where? How did?

1407
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 3: She? Was the sole survivor of JAT flight three sixty

1408
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 3: seven after an explosion tore through the baggage compartment on

1409
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 3: twenty sixth of January nineteen seventy two, causing it to

1410
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 3: crash near a place in Czechoslovakia.

1411
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 2: I'm not even to attempt to pronounce because of the

1412
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 2: problem I have my brain. I'm not going to say

1413
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 2: the brain pronunciation matter. Serviska kamnitzse Oh my god? So

1414
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 2: they was there an explosion in the package compartment.

1415
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 3: Air safety investigators attributed the explosion to a briefcase bomb.

1416
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 3: The Yugoslav authority suspected the Croatian nationalists word of blame,

1417
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 3: but no one was ever arrested. Following the bombing, she

1418
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 3: spent several days in a coma and was hospitalized for

1419
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 3: several months.

1420
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 2: She suffered a fractured skull. Okay, but how did she

1421
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 2: first survive the fall? She just did? They don't have

1422
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 2: to say what she fell into. Nope, let me wait,

1423
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 2: Let me rack through my brain, let me rack through

1424
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 2: my croatia. How do you like?

1425
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: She must have hit a tree line or like what

1426
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: breaks your fall from thirty thousand.

1427
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 3: Feet She was discovered by a villager who heard her

1428
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 3: screaming amid the wreckage. Her Turkose uniform was covered in

1429
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 3: blood and her stiletto heels had been torn off by

1430
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 3: the force of the impact. Oh so she stayed with

1431
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 3: the plane, She apparently stated, with the plane, Oh, Aeronica, he.

1432
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 2: Went on rocking my brain.

1433
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 3: Recommend there's the fact I need air safety investigators a tree.

1434
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: We did.

1435
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 3: Her survival to being trapped by a food cart in

1436
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 3: the DC nine's fuselage as it broke away from the

1437
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 3: rest of the aircraft and plummeted towards the ground. When

1438
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 3: the cabin depressurized, the passengers and other crew were bore.

1439
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 3: Other crew were blown out of the aircraft and fel

1440
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 3: to their deaths, but the fuselage pinned inside. This woman

1441
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 3: was pinned inside landed at an angle in a heavily

1442
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 3: wooded and snow covered mountain side, which cushioned the impact.

1443
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 3: So she broke her skull thirty three thousand She fell

1444
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 3: six point three one miles. She suffered a fractured skull,

1445
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 3: three broken vertebrate, broken legs, broken ribs, and a fractured pelvis.

1446
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 3: She was temporarily paralyzed from the waist down, but made

1447
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:42,919
Speaker 3: an almost complete recovery, only walking with a slight limp wow.

1448
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 3: And then in nineteen ninety was f She went back

1449
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:50,479
Speaker 3: to be flying again, what back to being a flight

1450
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 3: attendant on the same airline, and then the airline fired

1451
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 3: her in nineteen ninety because she went to an anti

1452
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 3: government protest during the breakup of yukoslaf.

1453
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: Wow.

1454
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 2: Yep. See, that's one of.

1455
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: Those when you survive something like that, that's when you

1456
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: just Tony robbins your life and you just decided to

1457
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 1: become like a public speaker.

1458
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 2: You know, the first Slovakia.

1459
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 3: It just become like a motivational, motivational speaker.

1460
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like that's what the guys who survived

1461
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: for the Live Live story like, that's what they did.

1462
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: Like you just like, don't go back to the thing

1463
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 1: that put you in this position in the first place.

1464
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 2: That's horror.

1465
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 3: She went back and was a flight attendant and then

1466
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 3: they fired her.

1467
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 2: Can you imagine those termination papers? Like are you kidding me?

1468
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 2: Thirty thanks for all your service.

1469
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 3: She fell six points I drove four miles yesterday. She

1470
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 3: fell six point three one Miles and crazy.

1471
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 2: All right, you've been listening to Pod meets Twirled.

1472
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 1: The torches may be snuffed, but our questionable analysis burns on.

1473
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 2: We'll see you next time. A tribal trap. You're smoking,

1474
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 2: but the along