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Speaker 1: He's a legend, legend. He for you. Many years I
Speaker 1: was scared of him. We're gonna get into it. You
Speaker 1: don't know what too, abue. No, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: Let me just get get that out the way. For
Speaker 1: years I was scared of Benny Blockole all that he
Speaker 1: creeps up on you and then.
Speaker 6: Like I didn't know that, like like I was like
Speaker 6: so young when I first saw that.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was a character.
Speaker 6: Like I thought that was somebody sent you in another build.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, wait a minute, why bitty block? Ye possible?
Speaker 1: You must you were mad young, so you quee. That's
Speaker 1: another thing that even Queen Jackson Heights.
Speaker 7: Got Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay he was seventy nine.
Speaker 3: Okay, so March for one year, be a Ford Catholic
Speaker 3: school Okay, okay, then Bertram the rest Okay.
Speaker 6: So no, they're from the Queens where I'm from. Like,
Speaker 6: like what I mean by that is uh. I recently
Speaker 6: ran the Queensboro U and they called it Queens the
Speaker 6: world borough. Now I had never heard that expression already,
Speaker 6: but it is the world bor. Like I grew up,
Speaker 6: like my neighbor was Russian. Yeah yeah, I know I'm
Speaker 6: sad in naive. I know I'm sat the naive, right,
Speaker 6: But I grew up My neighbor was Russian. My downa
Speaker 6: blocked person was a Haitian. Up the block was a Colombian.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I know I'm sat in naive.
Speaker 6: I didn't understand racism until like I was an adult,
Speaker 6: because we all kind of lived.
Speaker 3: It's okay, Yes, So when I cut to Jackson Heights,
Speaker 3: we were the second Latin family on the block, and
Speaker 3: it was white flight was happening. You know, well you
Speaker 3: know before they left. It's trying to give me a beating,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: And it was everybody was leaving.
Speaker 3: All the whites peoples were leaving, Irish, Italian, Jews, Germans,
Speaker 3: there were there were everybody was leaving. But I got
Speaker 3: beat up a lot. Yeah, so I saw racism matterly.
Speaker 3: And like when you when you're playing games with these
Speaker 3: when with the white kids and you beat them at something,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden you're a spick and that's like,
Speaker 3: you know, nine years old, I realized, oh I'm somebody,
Speaker 3: I'm other.
Speaker 1: I've seeing this other no matter what. Now your Puerto
Speaker 1: Rican and Columbia.
Speaker 3: Yah, that's right, okay, I got it mixed.
Speaker 6: I was reading where you said that you had to
Speaker 6: like study the Colombian accent.
Speaker 1: Yes, it did. Now for people who don't know, right,
Speaker 1: who has it come to Jackson Heighth schoo Corona, I'm Hurrison.
Speaker 6: What is the difference between the Puerto Rican accent and
Speaker 6: a Columbia accent.
Speaker 1: Well, a Puerto Rican accent is more.
Speaker 3: I got wrong, I hindle man because and then Colombian.
Speaker 3: But was you get sat down food mal.
Speaker 1: People from sound.
Speaker 4: More Caribbean like they they got American action Puerto Rican.
Speaker 1: That was a myth.
Speaker 3: The gene action that's a Pablo Escobar type of accent.
Speaker 6: Gene accent is different from overall Columbian exactly, exactly the
Speaker 6: old school colonial conquest accent because in Spain and.
Speaker 3: Think, okay, scornation and that that's the same one from
Speaker 3: Spain is the same one. They haven't met the gene
Speaker 3: like I said, so that you know.
Speaker 6: There's been so many stories told by Pablo and I
Speaker 6: heard the difference between your story. This is the first
Speaker 6: time the family actually, Kosa, that's that's rights unique.
Speaker 1: I saw the whole There is a unique, very unique.
Speaker 3: Ye, right, Joe, because it's the first authorized by the
Speaker 3: family and by the son. So we're telling stories that
Speaker 3: no one knows. So he's telling what happens behind closed
Speaker 3: doors between his father and his mother, what happened between
Speaker 3: him and his father, and the conflicts that they had.
Speaker 3: Even though Pablo was the son told me directly. His
Speaker 3: new name is said Stam for security purposes.
Speaker 2: And at the end they called him when he was Argentine.
Speaker 1: He's a teacher or something, right, he does.
Speaker 3: He goes around preaching around the world and doing speeches
Speaker 3: about peace and love and all that. So he really
Speaker 3: escaped the life. He definitely did. But he told me,
Speaker 3: you know, growing up in that life, you know, he
Speaker 3: had these babysitters because he couldn't go to school because
Speaker 3: theyre afraid of being kidnapped or assassinated, and the other
Speaker 3: kids were scared of him, so he.
Speaker 1: Had to be homeschool.
Speaker 3: But his pops, Polo Schobar, got him babysitters who were
Speaker 3: he didn't know where assassins right, right, but they were
Speaker 3: real killers.
Speaker 1: Their friends.
Speaker 2: He raised them, they raised you, getting the whole series.
Speaker 1: But they're not family.
Speaker 3: So some of them became informants, right, and so had
Speaker 3: off them. And that's when the son in him got conflict.
Speaker 3: At nineteen, before his pops died, he had words with
Speaker 3: his pops and he said to him, look a you're
Speaker 3: gonna kill next my my grandma.
Speaker 1: She looks you the wrong way.
Speaker 3: Mind, she says the wrong thing to you is this
Speaker 3: the kind of life that when does this killing stop?
Speaker 3: And that was the last speech he had it with
Speaker 3: his pops work for word, and that's what we have
Speaker 3: in the series.
Speaker 4: Yet the POV is very unique for especially for these
Speaker 4: type of series like the Narco series, because I hadn't
Speaker 4: seen nothing like.
Speaker 1: It, and my action is the best.
Speaker 3: But all the Latin actors, because you know, white actors
Speaker 3: have to do Hamlet Latin actors and uys have to
Speaker 3: do public because he tore did it, Javier Bardem did it,
Speaker 3: Wagner More did it. But I think my accent is
Speaker 3: the dopest, you know, I did. And I got the
Speaker 3: physicality too, because because he had like a slow movement
Speaker 3: for like a tough guy, he was mad slow and
Speaker 3: he had like a breathing problem. He paused a lot,
Speaker 3: so I don't think so I was trying to really
Speaker 3: capture all his rhythms and patterns.
Speaker 1: How do you did you study?
Speaker 2: Like home footage, like what did you watch?
Speaker 1: You got someone? He had home footage that he showed me.
Speaker 3: Of a couple of home visits, the showing you this,
Speaker 3: yeah yeah, yeah, he's got to showing me all these uh,
Speaker 3: behind the scenes footage of different events they had for family,
Speaker 3: and then I study everything on YouTube and and tapes
Speaker 3: and to get it perfect. And the other thing he
Speaker 3: told me was that in Columbia back in the eighties,
Speaker 3: pops were about tough love. When they had a Sunday
Speaker 3: it was it wasn't your kissing it. It's like, you know,
Speaker 3: be tough with the macho kids. But his pops, because
Speaker 3: he was near death all the time, hogged them kissed him,
Speaker 3: said I love you publicly and change. The culture in
Speaker 3: Columbia between fathers and sons.
Speaker 1: Must have been conflicting too. For the sun like showing conflicting, bro.
Speaker 3: He grew up in this place where his dad was
Speaker 3: so charismatic and loving, but they lived in total paranoia.
Speaker 3: Like Pablo couldn't hang out with the family all the time.
Speaker 3: He had to be the from place to be a decoy.
Speaker 3: So how do you live like that? Constant movie and
Speaker 3: constant changing spots.
Speaker 1: It's rough.
Speaker 4: Like we when I went to when I went to Columbia,
Speaker 4: we went to many yings and we went to that
Speaker 4: building the one that.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeahs leather right yeah yeah yeah, and not.
Speaker 2: Too far as where he died, now you the meloe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we filed in areas near where Pablo lived and
Speaker 3: was assassinated. But we had to do new spots because
Speaker 3: it's all destroyed.
Speaker 1: Everything is destroyed. And how much of the movie you
Speaker 1: say you shot in Columbia?
Speaker 3: All of it? Okay, okay, fifty Vacasians. Crew was Argentine,
Speaker 3: Mexican and Colombian. So much talent, man, so much talent
Speaker 3: in Latin America.
Speaker 1: Okay. Now us as rappers.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah and DJs and.
Speaker 6: We go to Columbia and most of us, for lack
Speaker 6: of a better term, we be extorted.
Speaker 1: Like they make us.
Speaker 6: Like, you know, you want to go look at Pablo's
Speaker 6: you got to pay a certain amount of a certain amount,
Speaker 6: yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Is that something that you you ran into him? No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: had the blessings?
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, because we we we promised them also that
Speaker 3: we weren't going to idolize him in the series.
Speaker 1: Like meaning like ida the criminal part of him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, to make him like you know, become a
Speaker 3: recruiting you know situation. We want to make sure we
Speaker 3: showed the humanize him, but also showed that he lived
Speaker 3: on the paranoid that's not a lifestyle that ends up.
Speaker 1: You know, you end up surviving, you don't survive it.
Speaker 3: He's he's we're fascinated by him because he grew up
Speaker 3: from extreme poverty and became the wealthiest criminal in the
Speaker 3: history of the world. He died being worth thirty billion
Speaker 3: by today's uh seventy billion.
Speaker 1: Did we make some noise to that? You got to
Speaker 1: make some noise. He was one of the most ruthless
Speaker 1: ones too. He kind of like invented the n terrorism. Yes,
Speaker 1: he did narco terrorism exactum, I hit it correctly. You know.
Speaker 3: He did a ton of assassinations on politicians, journalists, anybody
Speaker 3: who opposed them.
Speaker 1: Crazy wow, like what Trump does verbally.
Speaker 6: That's that's the point that I wanted to bring, Like yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, what's the book you wrote?
Speaker 3: Pimps whole pimps, host and player hitters and the rest
Speaker 3: of my Hollywood friends. Don't ever Here's here's the big tip.
Speaker 3: Don't ever write an autobiography until you're about to die
Speaker 3: or retire, because you fuck up your life. I mean,
Speaker 3: I was only like thirty nine or forty was. It
Speaker 3: cost me a lot of problems for real, because you're
Speaker 3: gutting people, well, you're saying ship that nobody wants to
Speaker 3: be set and I said it, and then all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, I'm like, not casting this movie, not casting
Speaker 3: that movie. Yeah, you know, on the d L, nobody's
Speaker 3: telling me I'm being blasted, blacklisted.
Speaker 1: But it's not on you know, on full blast.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: But was was Hollywood something that let you down?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 1: Absolutely?
Speaker 3: But you know I didn't know as a young man
Speaker 3: what was going on. I just thought, you know, Hollywood
Speaker 3: is not completely for us, but that's the way life is,
Speaker 3: you know. I accepted it. And then as you get older,
Speaker 3: I going, wait a minute, why isn't it for us?
Speaker 3: Lattin people are thirty percent of the US box office,
Speaker 3: a third of streamers, less than six percent of the actors,
Speaker 3: and less than one percent of the stories and less
Speaker 3: than point nine percent of the executives. How is that possible?
Speaker 3: They're taking from us but giving us nothing back. That's
Speaker 3: not okay. That's when I realized, and I woke up
Speaker 3: and I was like, wait a.
Speaker 1: Minute, what the fuck is going on? How can we
Speaker 1: accept this?
Speaker 3: White people are only fifty eight point two percent of
Speaker 3: the population. Why were they getting a ninety percent of
Speaker 3: the roles executive stories everything. It's an overreach and an
Speaker 3: overrepresentation that's not not fair in any kind of book.
Speaker 6: I saw you at a breakfast club and you was
Speaker 6: talking about, are you going to watch all white movies?
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna see white. I didn't realize. It's like
Speaker 1: there's some good like.
Speaker 4: You.
Speaker 1: Like. I was like, you said that.
Speaker 3: I didn't even realize you so used to realize that white.
Speaker 1: Movies Jaws, I was like, all white. It was like
Speaker 1: because even in the background. But I just finished watching
Speaker 1: George and I was like, how the funk? I didn't
Speaker 1: bet that future.
Speaker 3: There's not one person called, not one person called Poulter.
Speaker 1: Guys.
Speaker 6: I'm bouncing around a little bit, but I love that
Speaker 6: you got Ah, that's a Latin story for me.
Speaker 1: I think it's up there with.
Speaker 6: Up there with Willie Cologne as a story that I
Speaker 6: would like for you to participate.
Speaker 1: The big punch story. Oh that would be hot. We
Speaker 1: got to do that. Why not? How come Fat Joe
Speaker 1: hasn't done it? Family? Is the family not letting?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to speak on that because
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I don't know like the particulars, but I know that's
Speaker 6: something that the hip hop game is missing and have
Speaker 6: you you got to make me bit fun.
Speaker 3: I didn't get to meet Wow. I met Bis Marquis.
Speaker 3: I went to school with Q Tip.
Speaker 1: Wow, I'm two weeks older yet. No, no where broke
Speaker 1: went to Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: No, No, Police Plaza, Manhattan.
Speaker 1: Ok.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm two years older than him.
Speaker 1: No. I didn't mean him though. I was about that
Speaker 1: met him. Yeah, I was.
Speaker 3: I was like kind of hollywoody at that time. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I was living in the hood anymore. I was like,
Speaker 3: I was like trying to live large and try to
Speaker 3: be you know, famous and shipped.
Speaker 1: But when Holly would let you down, they were letting
Speaker 1: me down. But they don't want to keep me away.
Speaker 1: You can try to lock those doors, but I'm a
Speaker 1: bust them open, right. But what was the hottest year
Speaker 1: for me, dude?
Speaker 3: A good year from was nineteen ninety four. I did
Speaker 3: Carlito's Way, and I did Super Married Brothers, and I
Speaker 3: did Tu Wang Fu And two years later I did Spawn.
Speaker 3: I was the Clowning Spawn. I did The Pest. I
Speaker 3: did Romeo and Juliet and I said three plays.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you're speaking of plays.
Speaker 1: You did a one man play yeah, I did six,
Speaker 1: six of them.
Speaker 3: Four of them on Broadway. I'm broady man, and it
Speaker 3: was hard to get the broad When I did Freak
Speaker 3: on Broadway, they were like, they don't know if Latin
Speaker 3: people are going to go to the theater.
Speaker 1: They don't know if a.
Speaker 3: Comedy about a Latin guy is gonna appeal to white people.
Speaker 3: And Brody was all white at that time, you know,
Speaker 3: so I was like the first all Latin show and
Speaker 3: then half the population was Latino and black, and they
Speaker 3: were astounded and sold out.
Speaker 1: Like white people who come to the Broadway show though, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: The majority you know, the plays were mostly having classes. Yeah, y,
Speaker 3: the Monica wonderful.
Speaker 1: I love him.
Speaker 6: So so I we asked you all, did Hollywood disappoint you?
Speaker 6: What was something that Hollywood that that gave you?
Speaker 1: And you was like, man, I.
Speaker 6: Mean besides you know, getting out the hood or something
Speaker 6: like that.
Speaker 3: Well, I think Spike Lee giving me the lead role
Speaker 3: in Summer Sam was a big deal for me. That
Speaker 3: was a turning point in my life. And we went
Speaker 3: to Cannes Film Festival with that, which I had never
Speaker 3: been to. Was a big, big deal in Hollywood. Sisters,
Speaker 3: and uh, it's well with Spike, and Spike is the
Speaker 3: one that had the balls to make me a Latin.
Speaker 1: Guy be the lead Spike's best.
Speaker 4: Did you expect because with this series and it seems
Speaker 4: like you've always there's a third that you've always been
Speaker 4: trying to go back to your roots, like represent your roots.
Speaker 1: Yeah, me and I have young.
Speaker 4: Children, So in Gonto, I was like, this is dope
Speaker 4: for representation for Colombians. Like I thought it was super dope,
Speaker 4: Like how did that come about?
Speaker 1: That?
Speaker 2: The creation of that you be involved?
Speaker 3: Oh dude, that was such an incredible experience for me
Speaker 3: and how far we Latino people have come in this
Speaker 3: country to have all Latin cast right and Latin director
Speaker 3: and writer fran Conto Limnuel wrote the music, the ass music.
Speaker 3: It was an incredible turning point for me. And I
Speaker 3: improvised a lot for Bruno. I'm the Bruno.
Speaker 1: Yeah yes, yeah.
Speaker 3: The whole part too is if all we do is
Speaker 3: talk about Bruno, that's another story.
Speaker 2: So they're gonna have a ride in in Disney.
Speaker 3: Now I did your voice for that. There's a parade
Speaker 3: in Disney World for in Conto. Yeah. Yeah, that's huge, man, huge.
Speaker 3: It be frozen, Yeah, it's the number one. It was
Speaker 3: the number one Disney song in the history of Disney.
Speaker 2: And I think it's it brings a lot of pride
Speaker 2: being laudin.
Speaker 4: When you go to Disney, you see these little girls
Speaker 4: of all races, of all nationalities dressed up as the.
Speaker 3: Little Because in Conto had the true Latino experience, black, indigenous,
Speaker 3: and white. I didn't mixed and had you had all
Speaker 3: the hair textures, the hair color, the different color skins.
Speaker 3: It didn't have colorism, right, it was. It was such
Speaker 3: a powerful experience.
Speaker 2: I guess you didn't. You didn't watch little Kids?
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, let me bounced around
Speaker 6: real quick.
Speaker 1: Right. Did you get to see Bad Bunny in Puerto Rico? No,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't get I was filming, Uh, I
Speaker 1: can't remember. I was filming.
Speaker 3: Uh. The which is coming out in July. It can
Speaker 3: be the biggest movie in the history of Hollywood.
Speaker 1: A shot to that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, shot two Latinos and three black people in it.
Speaker 1: It's not an all white movie, so I'm gonna see it.
Speaker 6: But I just wanted to, like, the first time I've
Speaker 6: ever seen this before, what Bad Bunny did, Like he
Speaker 6: brung everyone.
Speaker 1: To the island right like like he did it all back.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he and he said uh uh like he
Speaker 6: basically went on tour in Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1: Incredible.
Speaker 6: I've never saw this now in my life, Like and
Speaker 6: like all the people that showed up, like it was
Speaker 6: all energy, like the.
Speaker 3: Beautiful man half time Super Bowl. Come on, you know,
Speaker 3: I was crying.
Speaker 1: Man's so beautiful.
Speaker 3: It was, dude, it was so emotional after what you're
Speaker 3: watching on TikTok and the gram. You see all these
Speaker 3: Latin bodies being assaulted, moms and children, and then you
Speaker 3: saw this love against hate theme, you know, all these
Speaker 3: Latin young people celebrating their culture, celebrating themselves. Yo, that
Speaker 3: was so powerful. And all the Easter eggs, like the
Speaker 3: original Puerto Rican flag that was banned. Yeah, the slavery like, yes,
Speaker 3: the whole thing is so powerful. Man, he had to
Speaker 3: bat buddy.
Speaker 6: Okay, let's schoo back to beating block for a second, right, Okay,
Speaker 6: our rest I'm weere that you had to actually because
Speaker 6: a queen's kid anybody from New York, right, Yeah, Well
Speaker 6: though Queens and Bronx is twenty minutes away, it's still
Speaker 6: a whole sepper who a whole super field, even even
Speaker 6: Queens Long Island, even Queens oh yeah, Brooklyn totally like
Speaker 6: it's totally different. So how did you, like, I know,
Speaker 6: you said you hung out in the Bronx, but how
Speaker 6: did you actually study for that character? Because like to
Speaker 6: this day, I know who you are and I can
Speaker 6: still look at that character and still be scared.
Speaker 1: So how did you study for that?
Speaker 9: Like like, oh, yeah, well, you know, I mean I
Speaker 9: grew up in Queens and when I was young, I
Speaker 9: hung out a lot, and there were some drug dealers
Speaker 9: and I hung out with them at times.
Speaker 3: You know, I never did anything bad. Well not really,
Speaker 3: I'm not lying. I'm lying, but I but you know,
Speaker 3: I I that was in my life. I saw where
Speaker 3: I was leading to, so I kind of avoid I
Speaker 3: just hung out with them at the park and played
Speaker 3: handball with them and whatnot in basketball. But for the movie,
Speaker 3: I I.
Speaker 1: I did the research. I hung with these two brothers. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: we did in the l e s okay.
Speaker 3: And then his brother had been shot the week before, okay,
Speaker 3: So I was walking around with him doing the rounds,
Speaker 3: going to the house, storing the stuff and whatnot in
Speaker 3: the collection and and they were selling and I was
Speaker 3: just viewed and watched, but it was it was kind
Speaker 3: of stupid because I could have been shot too. I
Speaker 3: mean yeah, I mean I was kind of I was
Speaker 3: kind of dumb and young and and I put my
Speaker 3: life into my hands. But you know, I learned a lot.
Speaker 3: And so when I came to Carlito's way, I was gonna, Yo,
Speaker 3: this movie is mine. I'm gonna take this movie.
Speaker 1: You did you did? Yeah? Yeah. And then.
Speaker 3: But it was Brian de Palma, the director. We had
Speaker 3: just done Casualties of War and we did something. Seann
Speaker 3: and Michael J. Fox uh uh.
Speaker 1: Uh bing Raims. Uh yeah, everybody was in it. Sean
Speaker 1: p was in on College this way as well. He
Speaker 1: was in Champagne.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh he was incredible man. Yeah, he was playing
Speaker 3: Alan Dershowitz. The shaved his head, burned his hair. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and he did. He was doing mad research too, if
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: He's like to the party.
Speaker 3: And uh so the Parma gave me free reign.
Speaker 1: Man. He would let me do like thirty takes.
Speaker 3: This was filmed. Nobody got thirty takes. He just loved
Speaker 3: what I was doing so much that he let me
Speaker 3: do whatever I wanted. The whole posse at the club.
Speaker 3: Those are all my friends and my ex wife.
Speaker 1: They don't want to talk about it, but yeah he.
Speaker 3: Let me like, yeah you felt like yeah exactly, we
Speaker 3: had a real life and experience there going on because
Speaker 3: we know each other.
Speaker 6: But but do you realize how how you change the trajectory.
Speaker 1: Of street people Like street people if they see.
Speaker 6: Somebody who reminds them the self, now they know like
Speaker 6: like because nobody was really.
Speaker 1: You know, you killed, but you know what your.
Speaker 3: Time people when the movie came out was stopped me
Speaker 3: everywhere like.
Speaker 6: They was hated at you, right, but you have to
Speaker 6: kill He was gonna get away.
Speaker 3: You got a problem, and I go, yo, it wasn't
Speaker 3: a documentary.
Speaker 1: He he's still he was mouto Rican. Yeah he wasn't.
Speaker 1: So they took him by.
Speaker 6: How about scoff Face though, yeah, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 6: Alpancino does play a mean Latino though, yeah, yeah he does,
Speaker 6: he does.
Speaker 4: We were on the fence about really Scott Face, Yeah
Speaker 4: got his his accident wasn't all the way there like
Speaker 4: it wasn't you know, but.
Speaker 1: It was like Mexican. It was up to my little
Speaker 1: friend it wasn't even in Miami, really, you.
Speaker 6: Know, Cubans were just happy to see you heard about
Speaker 6: Please take that back.
Speaker 3: Of His acting as car leader was also kind of
Speaker 3: slightly whacked too. I mean that wasn't Puerto Rican. No, no,
Speaker 3: that he sounds like a Southern blues man because he
Speaker 3: was talking.
Speaker 1: You were talking. I don't want you to come into
Speaker 1: my club.
Speaker 3: Your pert snatcher and your first snatch.
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk to you.
Speaker 6: But you realize you're one of the like the only
Speaker 6: people in the world that killed Alpacino on camera. I know,
Speaker 6: Like he doesn't mean they give me the rolls. I
Speaker 6: think that's in his script, like yo, I don't die yea,
Speaker 6: and you killed him?
Speaker 1: You know what's off there? I was.
Speaker 3: I was around when they killed Stephen sagal To in
Speaker 3: a movie executive decision because he was such an asshole
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 10: He hit me no way, Steven Stevens got we're doing
Speaker 10: exacutive disc acting. We were just meeting for the first
Speaker 10: time and he comes in in military garb, like you
Speaker 10: ain't military. So I started laughing at him, and he
Speaker 10: didn't like that, so he elbowed me.
Speaker 3: My solar plexus and knocked me out. So when he
Speaker 3: was going to die in the movie, which was fake,
Speaker 3: but I wanted to believe it was real. I was
Speaker 3: there five a year. I wanted to see it so badly,
Speaker 3: and he won't come out of his trailer. He didn't
Speaker 3: want to die, even though it was a fake dead.
Speaker 3: But I was like, please, please just kill him and
Speaker 3: get rid of him.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was in the book to that costs me a
Speaker 3: lot of problems. But now that that sounded fucking and for.
Speaker 4: The record, die in score for these Yeah yeah, but.
Speaker 1: He got to like other people.
Speaker 3: Kill kill trying to Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So did you ever think about doing like a
Speaker 6: spin off of that?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they did do one.
Speaker 1: Get out of Here without Me? Oh no, that the reason.
Speaker 1: That's the reason. About what was it called? What was
Speaker 1: it called? I don't know. I'm not in it. I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 5: I remember it was terrible, no way, oh yeah, something
Speaker 5: like No I was I was talking about.
Speaker 1: His character, like I spin off of his character.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, like Bennie prequel to Benni Blanco
Speaker 4: getting to that point.
Speaker 3: Somebody offered it to me like ten years ago, but
Speaker 3: it was too late by then. Yeah, they missed they
Speaker 3: missed the window.
Speaker 2: The window closed on that that person, that archetype.
Speaker 1: But you know.
Speaker 3: Empsire was that for me when I did Empire?
Speaker 12: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that flip with fat Joe.
Speaker 3: Joe uh uh trench.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe that.
Speaker 6: Joe's line is I'll kill your ass quicker than I
Speaker 6: did in an Empire.
Speaker 1: Yes, he died very early in the Empire. What happened
Speaker 1: you guys?
Speaker 3: Up, he was a big target. It's easy to take
Speaker 3: him out.
Speaker 1: He's now, he's now regular Joe. He's not bad Joe, Joe,
Speaker 1: how do you keep that name? Just keep I don't know.
Speaker 6: He's he's thinking with it, drinking mad die of coaches.
Speaker 1: Okay, Joe, listen.
Speaker 2: The flowers.
Speaker 6: Yes, our show was about giving people they flowers, they
Speaker 6: though us where they can tell him, they drinks when
Speaker 6: I can drink them, and the thoughts where they can
Speaker 6: take him and we want to give you. That's dope,
Speaker 6: because like you're truly one of those people that you
Speaker 6: can really do anything like I like, it's like you didnzel,
Speaker 6: It's like I feel like every role that you played
Speaker 6: was written for you.
Speaker 1: It probably wasn't. I did. That's how that's how natural
Speaker 1: it is so when you look at a like I forget,
Speaker 1: I forget the name of hold On. I got it
Speaker 1: right here? Which one? Uh yeah, yeah? Like how do
Speaker 1: you how do you like study for that type of role?
Speaker 3: I'm method man, I'm mad methods. So I had a
Speaker 3: real drag queen, Leritza Dumont, who was Puerto Rican and
Speaker 3: she hung with the bron from the Brons somebody just
Speaker 3: you feel like from the Bronx.
Speaker 1: And she coached me.
Speaker 3: She coached me how to walk, how to talk, how
Speaker 3: to move my hands and stuff like that to make
Speaker 3: yourself like more more feminine. And then uh, Patrick and
Speaker 3: Wesley myself we went.
Speaker 1: To like Patrick Swayze, Yeah.
Speaker 6: I can't just yeah Patrick here, Wesley.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is life is a monster.
Speaker 3: And Patrick was a dope aacter too, And so we
Speaker 3: would go to all these drag queen bars that were
Speaker 3: Puerto Rican and black Les Qualita Sally Sally's two, and
Speaker 3: we did mad research.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: We wanted to make it authentic, We wanted to do
Speaker 3: it with dignity and respect for the community. And I
Speaker 3: think we did a great job. Man. It was that
Speaker 3: was back in the era where they didn't do movies
Speaker 3: about LGTBQ plus.
Speaker 1: So that was a big deal, right, No, that's real,
Speaker 1: that's real.
Speaker 4: What do you say about you know, there's there's a
Speaker 4: whole thing that that narrative that people say that when
Speaker 4: male actors do those kind of rules, that they're sacrificing
Speaker 4: something to get in Hollywood more.
Speaker 3: No, there's no sacrifice, man. I mean, I think in
Speaker 3: modern days it should be an LGTBQ plus person playing
Speaker 3: those roles, like.
Speaker 1: A Puerto ricanould playing a Puerto Rican.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly where at that point where we have the
Speaker 3: populations hire them, and and the talent in that yes, high,
Speaker 3: more disabled, higher l g TVQ plus hire Latinos for
Speaker 3: Latino roles.
Speaker 1: Let's stop the appropriation. There's no need for that. I
Speaker 1: like the appreciation, but no more appropriation. CJ.
Speaker 3: Paul say, he's gonna come up with blackface. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: better not do that, man, That's not okay. Just because
Speaker 3: easy did that?
Speaker 1: Man like that was that was?
Speaker 3: That was? I mean, it was it was in fun
Speaker 3: and comedy.
Speaker 1: What what was done in.
Speaker 3: Blackface was not done yeah, party, it wasn't done for comedy.
Speaker 1: It was to humiliate.
Speaker 3: So stop that nonsense. Understand history read a book right
Speaker 3: and shout out to Drew Skis hell talented.
Speaker 1: Crazy. I didn't take it as him trying to be
Speaker 1: offensive at all. He wasn't trying to make fun of
Speaker 1: white folks as a comediat. Well, all this cancel culture? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Is that something that you have to change your approach because,
Speaker 6: like I mean sometimes, like you know, I used to
Speaker 6: used to be an artist. I write robs and I
Speaker 6: still write robs now. But when I when I when
Speaker 6: I look at my lyrics like oh, I actually be
Speaker 6: like no, and I do it on my iPhone now,
Speaker 6: So I look at it. Do you have a write
Speaker 6: material and say, you know what, this might be insensitive
Speaker 6: to a certain Absolutely.
Speaker 3: I think it's not a bad thing man to be
Speaker 3: looking at the world through a lens of respect for others. Yeah,
Speaker 3: especially in New York. You grew up in a time
Speaker 3: where there was mad disrespect. Most of comedy was disrespect
Speaker 3: on the streets. You know, it was all about disrespect.
Speaker 3: But what if he flipped it and made it about respect.
Speaker 3: You could still be mad funny, right, you know, and
Speaker 3: giving respect to people. I don't know, I think you'd
Speaker 3: still be incredibly funny. I did Land History for morons,
Speaker 3: with that kind of respect, you know, I mean making
Speaker 3: sure that everybody was respected, because the piece was about
Speaker 3: lack of respect, my son being bullied at school for
Speaker 3: being Latino, which is disrespect, And so I wanted to
Speaker 3: teach my weaponize history and knowledge, not fisticuffs, not fighting,
Speaker 3: you know, break the cycle of violence.
Speaker 2: What about going backwards and editing stuff.
Speaker 3: To well, I can't do that now, and it's too
Speaker 3: late for that. I mean yeah, I mean yeah, it'd
Speaker 3: be great to fix the stuff, but you can't. How
Speaker 3: do you fix it without carus?
Speaker 4: I mean, we live in this digital age now where
Speaker 4: I think that's dangerous to to go back and edit
Speaker 4: things as you pleased.
Speaker 1: Where there might be for the right reasons, but I feel.
Speaker 3: Like it's wrong absolutely, the changes history.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, yes, sir. Well said, how about AI?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you know that Hollywood anti AI because it's
Speaker 3: gonna come for jobs. It's gonna come quick.
Speaker 1: Actors voice jobs.
Speaker 3: I mean I've seen a couple of UH TV series
Speaker 3: that were all AI dubbed, really and they fit in
Speaker 3: the mouth perfectly, but they have no soul, no personality,
Speaker 3: nothing has no flavor. So that's gonna take jobs away,
Speaker 3: you know, we made sure that this show had no AI.
Speaker 1: You know, I did my own, Uh I did. It's
Speaker 1: a dub version that I did myself.
Speaker 6: I could identify with AI, like my son he looks
Speaker 6: at something, they'd be like, that's a I like he'll he'll, no,
Speaker 6: I can't see. It's too good for like I played
Speaker 6: on record for Doctor dre and Doctor dre.
Speaker 7: Knew off top like he was like, Yo, you could
Speaker 7: tell a difference. Yeah, I can't tell them because the
Speaker 7: bay You can't. No, I can't tell the difference because
Speaker 7: it's troubling.
Speaker 3: Tip of the dove, the duve that could tell that
Speaker 3: that because it was like it fits in the mouth
Speaker 3: so perfectly, but it's got no heart, no soul.
Speaker 1: Right, So what happens if you get into it with
Speaker 1: a studio?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: No? See? And did they go get AI person that
Speaker 1: sounds like you? They can't?
Speaker 4: Then, Okay, give up those which they're doing those deals
Speaker 4: now where people are.
Speaker 3: Giving if you're hard up for money, you can sell
Speaker 3: the rights to your voice and your face.
Speaker 4: Person likes the studios, Yeah, so they can use it
Speaker 4: and do AI stuff and train their models off of
Speaker 4: you and everything.
Speaker 1: Oh this is getting scary, man, no, this is real.
Speaker 1: It's scary. No, say it's out there. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you saw The Andy Warhol.
Speaker 3: Diaries was a documentary series that was incredible and Bill
Speaker 3: Over in this amazing actor did the voice, but they
Speaker 3: used AI to make his voice just like Andy Warhol.
Speaker 3: And when you listening to you're going wait a minute,
Speaker 3: when did they get those And that was a while
Speaker 3: ago when they did that. Yes, and yeah they did
Speaker 3: just to match his voice to put it in the
Speaker 3: right pocket. And it was incredible. But at the same
Speaker 3: time you're like, but he's soon, they won't even need
Speaker 3: Biller when you know what I mean to get the
Speaker 3: AI and you skip him in the salary and the
Speaker 3: job and.
Speaker 2: And every time we use this technology work training those Yes, yes, what.
Speaker 11: Was that game?
Speaker 1: Member?
Speaker 3: Remember the Pick of Chew whatever game it was that
Speaker 3: you went around?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: That was teaching AI GPS, so mapping things that they
Speaker 3: couldn't map.
Speaker 6: Now I'm about a little bit like I said the Honeymooners, right, Yes,
Speaker 6: it was a black honeymoon.
Speaker 1: How amazing was that?
Speaker 6: A love that countt you know, Cramden And then you
Speaker 6: get the call that you're going to be the dog trainer,
Speaker 6: Like just actually because when I look at the Honeymooners,
Speaker 6: speaking of white, I didn't realize the Honeymooners was an
Speaker 6: old white cat.
Speaker 1: Wow, Like I.
Speaker 5: Didn't realize that because, by the way, was black and white.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you couldn't till they were waiting black
Speaker 1: come on, you might have had about TV. That's the
Speaker 1: first thing that I didn't when we make it black
Speaker 1: Mikes and they got so you get the call and
Speaker 1: then what is the scene that be? Like when you
Speaker 1: get the call?
Speaker 3: I was so excited and what a great constant with
Speaker 3: a great idea. I love Cedric, I like Mike Apps.
Speaker 3: And then we had a great time on set the
Speaker 3: movie not so much.
Speaker 1: I love the movie.
Speaker 3: That I'll take it back that yeah, yeah, my dad,
Speaker 3: can you raise that? You know?
Speaker 1: Lovehing to It really captured the New York City, like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: You know we shot that movie.
Speaker 1: Was it in New York?
Speaker 3: It wasn't in America, Canada, No, bro Ireland. Wh way
Speaker 3: to Ireland, that's where we shought that they brought it.
Speaker 1: They brought a city bus to Ireland. It was train.
Speaker 1: What the fuck is that insane? That's crazy? All right?
Speaker 1: So when when Ralph is yelling to Norton that's in Ireland. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is that wild? God?
Speaker 3: Because now they have Latin black people in Ireland, so
Speaker 3: they could do it because the extras were all Irish,
Speaker 3: like you would. You would talk to him and they'd
Speaker 3: be like, oh, what the top of the Martin? How
Speaker 3: are you about to go? Well, they kissed the bar,
Speaker 3: did you? And and but they're black on the team.
Speaker 1: You're like an Irish accent. Yeah, that was terrible. You
Speaker 1: need a it's not you before you grew up here
Speaker 1: in Miami. Okay, we grew up in Queens.
Speaker 3: We had everybody or Jamaican.
Speaker 12: Yeah, they were all in Jamaicans.
Speaker 13: In a movie, you killed the guy who invaded? Who
Speaker 13: invented method acting? No, no, no, in real life. In
Speaker 13: real life, I studied with Lee Strassburg. He meant to
Speaker 13: the method, and I was in his class one day.
Speaker 1: Invented the method that about method acting, method acting.
Speaker 3: Le Strassberg created the method for me, which is what
Speaker 3: I follow in my technique. And I was in his
Speaker 3: class for one day and my acting exercises killed him.
Speaker 3: My acting was so bad and killed him.
Speaker 1: He died that night.
Speaker 3: I did exercise in his classicus.
Speaker 1: The way said, I didn't killed him, I mean, why
Speaker 1: is what? He died that night? Okay, so he died.
Speaker 3: He died for real February second, nineteen eighty two or
Speaker 3: something like that.
Speaker 1: Look it up. It's for real. He died that day.
Speaker 1: I was in his Contebruary first. Say what was he.
Speaker 3: Very second in the morning, very second?
Speaker 1: That night he passed? Yeah, yeah, for real. And he
Speaker 1: told you he didn't like you act. Yeah he said
Speaker 1: it was. It was terrible. I don't like it. What
Speaker 1: the hell are you doing in my class?
Speaker 3: That was?
Speaker 1: It was my first day.
Speaker 3: You can't pay me to be good, but it's class
Speaker 3: for to fail, right, So I went there and I failed.
Speaker 1: And the fact that he was from from New York,
Speaker 1: he was like whatever, yeah whatever. But it didn't even
Speaker 1: affect you. No, I kept going, I kept going. Did
Speaker 1: you figure this guy was supposed to be Yeah? No, no,
Speaker 1: I knew he was massive.
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, especially the day after he passed, it
Speaker 3: was like so quiet, you know, and then they closed
Speaker 3: the school down, and yeah it was a big deal.
Speaker 1: I mean it was a big loss.
Speaker 3: I mean he he taught uh Brando James Dean, Malon
Speaker 3: Monroe I mean he told yeah, yeah, all the it.
Speaker 1: Was all white all the movie you stopped watching. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry, but did that throw you off a
Speaker 1: little bit?
Speaker 3: Like, oh, yeah, I definitely throws you off a little bit.
Speaker 3: I mean I'm not imperviable, I'm not invincible. So yeah,
Speaker 3: and then I went and say with other acting teachers
Speaker 3: and killed him as well.
Speaker 1: I did it. He died as well. I did a
Speaker 1: season in his class and he passed us. No, I'm
Speaker 1: not lying, going on, where's this classes at? Okay?
Speaker 2: Okay, you find out Betty Blank is the one attending
Speaker 2: the classes.
Speaker 6: So have you ever been I've gotten better since Yeah,
Speaker 6: you're all aged. Have you ever been off of a
Speaker 6: role that you was offended?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean lots, lots, lots.
Speaker 3: I mean there's so many I can't remember now which
Speaker 3: ones they were, but yeah, there was too many dealers,
Speaker 3: too many villains. Yeah, and I got sick of that.
Speaker 3: Go I can't keep denigrating my people like this, because
Speaker 3: now I'm becoming part of the problem.
Speaker 1: You know, is the drug dealer name Jose? What is
Speaker 1: the drug dealer name holds? Always?
Speaker 3: They always Jose Ray Ray.
Speaker 11: Ray, because way great way, I thought that was like
Speaker 11: for the black actors, they got very right.
Speaker 1: Well, you got yeah, I got in New York, we
Speaker 1: do you know everything?
Speaker 3: Yes, that's right, that's right, cross couch and whatnot.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then and then there were stupid roles that I
Speaker 3: shouldn't have. I mean, great roles that I turned down
Speaker 3: that was dumb, Like what mister and Missus Smith the
Speaker 3: Vinced one part.
Speaker 1: I turned it down mister and Missus Smith, well because
Speaker 1: they offered me scale.
Speaker 3: And I was like, you know, they're making the biggest
Speaker 3: bucks of their life, twenty million each and they're gonna
Speaker 3: offer me two thousand dollars a week.
Speaker 1: I was like, is it because I'm Latinos? Why do
Speaker 1: you know me?
Speaker 4: You know me?
Speaker 3: So I passed on that Happy Feet, I passed on
Speaker 3: the Robin Williams part o the cart Yeah okay, I said,
Speaker 3: I said, yeah, I SAYD six is coming out in
Speaker 3: spring six.
Speaker 4: Do you find it there's more freedom in those those
Speaker 4: type of roles that the animated roles.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, it's so fun. I mean I had a
Speaker 3: lot of freedom in Bruno and Canto. We did mad
Speaker 3: ad libs and improvisations.
Speaker 1: It was so fun.
Speaker 3: Had a blast with said, I do get to improvise
Speaker 3: and ad lib a lot, but not as much because
Speaker 3: there's so much action involved. It gets a little a
Speaker 3: little tricker. But I was the first to record I
Speaker 3: sage by myself, and then I laid the groundwork and
Speaker 3: then everybody else jumped in.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Has there ever been a role you turned down onto?
Speaker 6: You spogled earlier that you regret.
Speaker 1: The mister and missus Smith. Oh yeah, I regret that
Speaker 1: one a lot. That was that was that was.
Speaker 2: That was a big miss You would have even though
Speaker 2: knowing what you know now, you still you would have you.
Speaker 3: I would have gone back and I would have said, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: negotiating more.
Speaker 1: No, they said that said this no negotiating, So you
Speaker 1: would have taken it. Yeah, I would take you and
Speaker 1: shut up because I was.
Speaker 3: I was going to rock that role. I was gonna
Speaker 3: make it so fainy. But in the two thousand dollars
Speaker 3: a week just just offended me.
Speaker 1: Man, they're defending me. You know, sometimes when.
Speaker 3: You're a minority, you feel like everything's against you or
Speaker 3: or it's an insult, but sometimes it isn't. Sometimes you're
Speaker 3: so used to responding negatively to things.
Speaker 2: It's important to differentiate that.
Speaker 1: It's hard to man, how do you do? How do
Speaker 1: you It's hard.
Speaker 3: It's hard my therapist because I recommend therapy to all
Speaker 3: Latin people because we're the most people that need it
Speaker 3: because of the assaults on us constantly. So I've been
Speaker 3: in therapy and my therapist would say, you know, Jon,
Speaker 3: they look at that window.
Speaker 1: You see that person running. He had a Spanish accent.
Speaker 1: Look at that you see that person running? Why is
Speaker 1: he running?
Speaker 3: And I go because they're trying to kill him. He goes,
Speaker 3: no junk, He's trying to catch the bus. And I
Speaker 3: was like, oh wow, that's how I see the world, man,
Speaker 3: thank you, That's how I see the world, like in negative,
Speaker 3: negative kind of way constantly, you know, because this is
Speaker 3: the way you grow up. They say, kids in the
Speaker 3: ghetto grew up with PTSD for them so much stretch
Speaker 3: they don't even know how to quantify it.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I was watching it's crazy.
Speaker 6: I was watching the you know, it's a bad part
Speaker 6: of the Internet, and it's like, okay, part of the Internet.
Speaker 1: I was on the bad part of the Internet. I
Speaker 1: was watching this guy and he was.
Speaker 6: Yelling to his girl, and that's the jealousis girls like, yo, man,
Speaker 6: come outside, like forgive me or whateverever, and there's a
Speaker 6: straight shootout happening.
Speaker 1: He doesn't flinch at Oh wow, He's just sitting there
Speaker 1: like hey, please come up. And I'm talking about this guy.
Speaker 6: He's just sitting there and I'm like, that's some funked
Speaker 6: up ship like like he's almost used to a war
Speaker 6: like yeah, used to.
Speaker 3: Walk functioning in a war war zone. Absolutely, so, uh
Speaker 3: thank you Boom.
Speaker 2: You did you did a role in the original Miami
Speaker 2: Vice series.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, nineteen eighty six. I was I was like
Speaker 3: nineteen twenty years old, and.
Speaker 1: Did you have your shirt open? Yeah, you got your shirt?
Speaker 3: But I looked like a child.
Speaker 1: That looks so I look like a punk.
Speaker 3: I look so yeah, yeah I look.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was supposed to be the villain. Y now
Speaker 1: look like I was a villain of.
Speaker 3: The episode, like come to Revenge the the first episode
Speaker 3: was supposed to be my dad who started the whole
Speaker 3: Miami Vice series. So I was coming into revenge room.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so you know, I'm supposed to be this
Speaker 3: mafia prince and I'm blowing my sister up for betraying
Speaker 3: us the family and she's got her baby, and I
Speaker 3: blow them up.
Speaker 1: It was ridiculous. Now you told CMO to take Christopher
Speaker 1: Columbus statute.
Speaker 3: That, Yeah, come on, he telling people? Why do we
Speaker 3: tell people love?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Put Tonyanner, put Frank Sinadra.
Speaker 1: Come on, you got a lot of legends. Hold on
Speaker 1: to him. He's like Hitler. You know.
Speaker 3: He came here and and basically genocided all the Caribbean
Speaker 3: of Taino people and Arawak tribes.
Speaker 1: He tortured.
Speaker 3: If you try to run, he will cut your feet off,
Speaker 3: if if if you weren't producing enough gold or silver,
Speaker 3: he will cut your hands off and hang him on
Speaker 3: your neck. He burnt, he's sick, dogs on babies. He
Speaker 3: burned people alive. He was the cruelest man in the
Speaker 3: history of the world. He had a ring. He bragged
Speaker 3: in his journal about having a prostitution ring of nine
Speaker 3: year old Native American girls.
Speaker 1: He was the first. Jeffrey Yeah, yeah, he was. That's
Speaker 1: why he went to the island.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yea, so yes, I talked Hobo. There's so many
Speaker 3: others to Tony Bennett. Come on, put the pucino up there.
Speaker 3: You don't need Columbus.
Speaker 1: Let him go. Let them go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, Italians, Yeah, exactly, put the nero put Marissa
Speaker 3: Tom Yes, yes, but let's let let let let Columbus go.
Speaker 6: And then how about Spain people, people from people from Spain,
Speaker 6: people from Spain.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't got nothing against them, except they're
Speaker 3: not Latino. That you're Spanish, you're white European Latino people.
Speaker 3: For the majority part, we're part indigenous part after Latino.
Speaker 3: We we got a mixed breed that's a beautiful culture
Speaker 3: in our own language and everything and and and history
Speaker 3: of literature and and art and.
Speaker 1: Europe different Europe, European.
Speaker 2: But it is hard to negate because we speak Spanish.
Speaker 4: A lot of our some of not all of our culture,
Speaker 4: a lot of our cultures mixed African everywhere else. But
Speaker 4: a lot of our questions just come from Spans, from
Speaker 4: Spain and Spain to a degree.
Speaker 3: You know, we gave weed line people because we were colonized.
Speaker 3: All our contributions have been erased. But we gave the
Speaker 3: world and Spain a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had.
Speaker 3: We gave Spain five hundred thousand tons of gold. That's
Speaker 3: like filling up the Empire state building a time and
Speaker 3: a half. And that funded all of Europe for the
Speaker 3: Renaissance later Renaissance Enlightenment. That was all our gold and
Speaker 3: our silver funded the Constantinople Empire and the and the
Speaker 3: and the Chinese government.
Speaker 1: Because that's where they love silver.
Speaker 3: We gave the world rubber uh, Chili's, uh, sunflower seeds, tapioca, chocolate, vanilla, popcorn, peanuts.
Speaker 1: Tambell does yea, the rubber ball we met the rubber ball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and uh galvanization. We invented that before Goodyear.
Speaker 3: Goodyear took the credit, but we had invented that already.
Speaker 1: Hold the means to bathroomall keep going yeac keuep going. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm the ray Man of Latin facts. I
Speaker 1: know all that shit.
Speaker 4: Well, no, because I mean I'm saying that because if
Speaker 4: you're Latino, it's hard.
Speaker 2: We speak Spanish derives from Spain.
Speaker 4: So I mean, well, I have my grandfather on my
Speaker 4: dad he's full Spanish right right, So you know, I
Speaker 4: just feel like there is a part of us that
Speaker 4: we can the gate from that part.
Speaker 2: You understand, no doubt what that empire did you go
Speaker 2: to Spain?
Speaker 4: Now they have Christopher Columbus statues all over it because
Speaker 4: it enriched their empire.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean it made Europe the powerful empires
Speaker 3: that they were in eighteen hundreds and nineteen hundreds. But
Speaker 3: that was all from us, right, They wouldn't be those
Speaker 3: powerful empires if it wasn't they were taking all our gold,
Speaker 3: all our all our silver, all our emeralds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I just think sometimes it's it's a
Speaker 2: tough to break away.
Speaker 1: It ain't tough for me. It ain't tough, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I mean for me because family, it's direct family. So well,
Speaker 1: you know, I went on.
Speaker 3: Henry Lewis Gates show, and I'm the first person in
Speaker 3: this show because everybody else is like three or four generations,
Speaker 3: and then back to Europe, especially Latin people is one
Speaker 3: or two generations. In back to Spain, I'm five hundred
Speaker 3: years on both sides. In the Americas, the only person
Speaker 3: that's been on Lewis Henry Gates show that goes that
Speaker 3: far back.
Speaker 2: But there's definitely no doubt.
Speaker 4: And this is I think that Latinos and all Caribbean
Speaker 4: and Latin American people's suffer for is we're suffering from
Speaker 4: the effects of colonialism.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, the way.
Speaker 2: It brainwashed, it divided people by different you.
Speaker 3: Know, exploitation has been NonStop. Every time we're about to
Speaker 3: democratize the country, the US comes in and because they
Speaker 3: start to nationalize all the oil or resources and they
Speaker 3: come in and take them out and put a right
Speaker 3: wing guy that becomes an assassin, an autocrat, a dictator.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing in Africa.
Speaker 3: Every time Africa wants to become the United States of Africa,
Speaker 3: that that leader is going to disappear, is going to
Speaker 3: be found dead.
Speaker 6: Okay, you want to do a quick Thomas Lnes do
Speaker 6: it man, explain to him the ruth.
Speaker 1: Well, let's get week.
Speaker 2: Since you guys aren't drinking, we got some some drinkers.
Speaker 1: I need to come on. So you need two alcoholics.
Speaker 1: Were about join? Oh yes or no? Bro? You're like, okay,
Speaker 1: so just Sonny, don't wry. You've been rowing out. You
Speaker 1: can get a drunk for a while lately. I've been
Speaker 1: watching you. I really want to drink. He's sitting it out.
Speaker 1: You need a shot glasses. I thought that was Eddie.
Speaker 4: I was like, don't use that little Thing's wrong with you, bro,
Speaker 4: brow have a real properly dog glass.
Speaker 2: So this is our drinking game, A nice We're gonna
Speaker 2: give you something to get.
Speaker 1: Drunk from me.
Speaker 3: Ye awesome, I love that. I wish I had you
Speaker 3: growing up.
Speaker 1: Designated drink good. We all needed that. We're gonna give
Speaker 1: you two choices.
Speaker 2: If you pick one, we don't.
Speaker 4: Drink, right, So whatever this versus if I lose you drinking,
Speaker 4: but if you decide you don't really want to answer,
Speaker 4: or you say both, you really don't want to pick one.
Speaker 1: I want to pick.
Speaker 3: I say I say both.
Speaker 4: If you say both or neither, we're drinking all of us?
Speaker 4: Will us who are drinking? What if I say both,
Speaker 4: you can say.
Speaker 1: Both of us. I don't want to come in and drink. Charlie,
Speaker 1: you want to drink it? Come on, come on, come
Speaker 1: out against somebody else.
Speaker 4: Really, what we want out of this is any stories
Speaker 4: that come up of anything we mentioned, any ideas anything.
Speaker 2: Come on, Charlie, you're represented, see mama?
Speaker 1: Or what what are you drinking? What are you drinking?
Speaker 1: You're drinking, mamajuana, Mama.
Speaker 3: That's some good ship Dominican.
Speaker 2: You know you know what I put myself last. No
Speaker 2: ste here, that's don't listen to those.
Speaker 8: Guys over there, all right, but I don't got no
Speaker 8: you got the.
Speaker 1: List you said to it. Oh God, I got I
Speaker 1: got it. You need a glass to all right, So
Speaker 1: drinking with.
Speaker 4: Us today, we got sunny, DBT and chill.
Speaker 2: Right, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: All right, ready let me set it on, go set
Speaker 1: it off. He's playing on the rules already, right I did.
Speaker 3: Okay, So NAS or l L who j oh wow,
Speaker 3: that's a tough one, man. I mean they're both such
Speaker 3: huge legends. Goes for real, both from Queens Queens. Oh,
Speaker 3: from Queens. Nas is from Queensbridge Projects.
Speaker 1: So that's closer than me.
Speaker 3: Right, so I think I'm gonna have I like, oh man,
Speaker 3: l A l A had the more pop sound, the
Speaker 3: more catchy tunes, but Nas add more teeth, more bite
Speaker 3: into what he was saying.
Speaker 1: I go no, because he was just closer to me geographically. Okay,
Speaker 1: cool Carris, want to rock him? Fuck?
Speaker 3: These are hard Harris one was a teacher man racquem
Speaker 3: you know he took it, brought the jazz into hip hop.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say both, Okay, good fellas.
Speaker 3: That's a that's a toughess.
Speaker 1: I kind of think I know the answer. It is
Speaker 1: off for you New York guys, Mets Yankees.
Speaker 3: Oh that's easy.
Speaker 1: Come on, I'm from Queens. What am I gonna go
Speaker 1: betray my people?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Mess, that's in that house. There's a lot of people
Speaker 1: from Queens who are Yankee fans. Yeah they don't. A
Speaker 1: lot of people like they're a little confused. Queens Queens
Speaker 1: of Ballata. I gotta go both. How can I You
Speaker 1: got it? Big l or big punt? Oh wow?
Speaker 3: Well you know we we wanted to do the story
Speaker 3: of big puns. I'm gonna say big punt so the
Speaker 3: family will give me the rights?
Speaker 1: That right? Bad Bunny or Daddy Yankee?
Speaker 3: Oh Man, Daddy Yankee was the first guy to come
Speaker 3: out with rigatone. He was the first one to Oh
Speaker 3: but then Bad Bunny took it to like international levels, man,
Speaker 3: and what he's doing with this platform, being political and
Speaker 3: outspoken like that. I gotta go Bad Bunny, I'm sorry, Okay, okay,
Speaker 3: Well he's done for the culture is incredible.
Speaker 1: Man skipped ONEX. I met the MX man.
Speaker 3: He's from New York too, He's from a state young
Speaker 3: because yeah, yeah, what a nice dude, man. I mean,
Speaker 3: but Tupac, Come on, DMX had the angry party voice.
Speaker 3: I love the angriest Party Voice, you have work. Except
Speaker 3: for Onyx, you were angry. They were angrier Party Voice.
Speaker 3: But Tupac was legendary. Man, He's like took it to
Speaker 3: the whole.
Speaker 2: I feel like they filled the same void, you know, like.
Speaker 1: You both like a little grime year.
Speaker 4: But I felt like that energy, you know, like after
Speaker 4: Park passed, I feel like, DMX.
Speaker 1: What what do you What do you think? What do
Speaker 1: you think? I want to know what you think?
Speaker 3: With me?
Speaker 1: M I would go Park. Yeah, I think you gotta
Speaker 1: go Park. I mean just yeah, because I mean influenced,
Speaker 1: I believe as well. Yeah.
Speaker 3: DMX would say Pocket, he definitely would.
Speaker 1: Okay, the Pest or super Mario Bros. But you trying
Speaker 1: to say about me ship snap Yeah okay.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know, when I did Superman Brothers, I thought it
Speaker 3: was gonna be a much bigger hit than it was.
Speaker 1: It wasn't.
Speaker 3: It wasn't critically loved, but so many people grew up
Speaker 3: with it and fell in love with and now the
Speaker 3: remake it was massive, man.
Speaker 1: So that was because of what we did.
Speaker 3: The past was my attempt at doing you know, Latin comedy,
Speaker 3: and it was before get Out because the plot of
Speaker 3: the Pest is this Puerto Rican kid who is brought
Speaker 3: to this island, so this white hunter can and can
Speaker 3: hunt them down like like like a species.
Speaker 1: We were first. I'll say both drink. Okay, okay, now
Speaker 1: technically it's super Mario. Is he Italian? Yeah?
Speaker 3: They catch me the Latin kid.
Speaker 1: Okay, I got one off there.
Speaker 2: Dick Cheney or Steven Miller?
Speaker 1: Wow, would you pick up.
Speaker 3: For you? Who would I picked for one?
Speaker 1: This is your criteria to get hit.
Speaker 2: One of them has better here?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Wow, wow, the president of that shot.
Speaker 3: They're both disgusting, I say both. They're both unbearably Yeah,
Speaker 3: they're both despicable, disgusting, horrible human beings. Yeah, both, so drink.
Speaker 3: Don't drink to them? Thought Heavy D? Oh? Wow, I
Speaker 3: met Heavy Dan, I met I met bis Marquis.
Speaker 1: Yeah, rest in peace. Amazing. I thought Heavy D was
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican, but he wasn't. He's not. No, he's not
Speaker 1: I thought he was. You know, he wasn't. He's just
Speaker 1: playing a lot. He's drunk.
Speaker 3: He's only three shots, three shots, he's already.
Speaker 1: Three sheets to the wind. Puerto Rican. Oh snap, that's
Speaker 1: a horriblee man. Biz Marquis or Heavy D They're both fun.
Speaker 3: They had such great swing to their hip hop brought
Speaker 3: so much fun since lightness, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: That was when hip hop was fun. It was about
Speaker 3: fun things, about being funny and and having a great
Speaker 3: groove before gang should rap. Damn, I gotta say both both.
Speaker 3: The legendary bro.
Speaker 1: I'most skip one. You will go back to that, all right,
Speaker 1: Jake Alvin, Oh fat, Joe, Oh wow, once Colombian, once,
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican once from the b X one.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you know appropriate appropriates? Didn't Jay Balma get canceled?
Speaker 1: What will happened? Write somethh it happened but went down? Relax?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: The Dominican girls that he had unleashes and onnot for
Speaker 3: a music video.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah that was kind of rough. I'll say.
Speaker 1: Everybody here knows. Yeah, yeah, it's so okay. So we're
Speaker 1: not so I say both.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what you get, A fucking drug. I said,
Speaker 3: you're incanto. Oh man, don't make me choose. I can't
Speaker 3: choose between my two bread winners. I don't have to both.
Speaker 2: Can't enough man, cheers, cheers, cheers.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's rough, because Spike Lee is my boy.
Speaker 3: Summer Sam was a Spike Lee joint and to Wong
Speaker 3: Fu was groundbreaking. Man. A lot of L G T
Speaker 3: b Q plus teenagers came up to me and they
Speaker 3: said that movie gave the course to come out to
Speaker 3: their folks. I gotta say both both are great.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, you're killing us that he doesn't want
Speaker 1: to drink.
Speaker 3: That's the point. So okay, Nick, you ready the faces
Speaker 3: Nick for the next Come on, that's easy, bro. Come on,
Speaker 3: I've been nicked forever. I'm going to the game this Thursday,
Speaker 3: court side next to fight. So nixt all the way,
Speaker 3: nixt all the way it's been, it's been.
Speaker 1: I'm a lifetime Knicks fan. It's been a rough, rough journey.
Speaker 6: It has been a rough looking very good the last
Speaker 6: year he's looking incredible.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, these last few weeks not so great. But okay,
Speaker 1: last week weeks we've been. Yeah, we had a couple
Speaker 1: of losses that he wasn't gonna get to that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but we'll pick it back up. I mean,
Speaker 3: Bronson has having a little bit a difficult time. Bridges
Speaker 3: also having I don't know what's going on, man, Davin.
Speaker 1: Since heart put his finger up brusting butt.
Speaker 2: Same, I don't even know what you you got the
Speaker 2: talk about.
Speaker 3: You're already gone, you're fucked out.
Speaker 1: Somebody, but that's serious. The next one like it was
Speaker 1: like a yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah to h thement in Vegas, like I guess that's
Speaker 6: how they play, but it got caught on camera and
Speaker 6: it looked it looked weird. Be Real to Fat Joe No,
Speaker 6: I replaced Jake Wilburma, Oh you did, yeah.
Speaker 2: To be Real real real from Cypress Him or Fat Joe.
Speaker 1: Oh be Real, Fat Joe.
Speaker 3: Oh snap, that's a hardbum man, I mean be Real
Speaker 3: and uh Cypress Hill. They did some gangster fun stuff, man,
Speaker 3: and it was like the early latinos to come.
Speaker 1: Out with him Cubist Cuban, Mexican grew up with Afro Cuban.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah and be really is is Afro Cuban,
Speaker 4: half Mexican, half.
Speaker 1: Cuban, right, but he's also Afro Cuban. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: no no doubt, yeah yeah from Southgate.
Speaker 3: I'm I mean did great, great, great music.
Speaker 1: Man, It's so fun both Okay, I like this game
Speaker 1: of course you do, right, I love it? Good Royal
Speaker 1: Hector Levo.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's impossible, man, I mean George Royal Colombian
Speaker 3: just some of the most powerful.
Speaker 1: Those are the political.
Speaker 3: Songs and sounds that you ever heard in your life.
Speaker 1: Political, but you did.
Speaker 3: Song to it and love all had the voice of
Speaker 3: the people. Man.
Speaker 1: That voice was was represented all of us. They call
Speaker 1: the voice. Yeah, the voice both they're not gonna get
Speaker 1: able to get out. I mean, which is you better
Speaker 1: get a designated driver I do over there rolling on
Speaker 1: the bluffs or scarface.
Speaker 3: Oh you know, I'm gonna go with Carlito's. Wait, man,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna choose my own.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, metal man ace Okay for us?
Speaker 3: Oh man, I got a special place for both of
Speaker 3: those songs because when I heard the Streets, I felt
Speaker 3: like I was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is too you know. You know Middleman is
Speaker 1: some dogs bro. Yeah, yeah, I didn't know. I didn't
Speaker 1: know it. I met him.
Speaker 3: I met him back in the day. Oh shoot, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna say both because they were really important to us.
Speaker 1: And then then yeah, kinds of reasons for you to drink.
Speaker 1: So this is the last question for Qui. Okay, this
Speaker 1: was the last question with Kaslim. Do you're gonna get
Speaker 1: back in the interviews? Thank you that loyalty or respect.
Speaker 3: Loyalty or respect? Oh shoot, that's that's a beautiful uh and.
Speaker 2: It seems like it's a true question for a lot
Speaker 2: of our guests.
Speaker 3: Loyalty is kind of weird because it's such a gangster thing, like,
Speaker 3: you know, that's what Trump likes, loyalty. But I think
Speaker 3: respect is something that's earned that you don't just get that.
Speaker 3: You have to have certain qualities and certain virtues to
Speaker 3: be respected.
Speaker 1: I'll go with respect respect. Okay, yeah, okay, he said,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, both. I meant whatever.
Speaker 4: Thank you, fellas, Hey take your coming, see the come Sonny, Sonny, Sonny.
Speaker 1: Thank you said. Let's talk about mambo mouth. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's talk about it. How did that come about? By
Speaker 1: the way, this Cuban coffee got.
Speaker 4: But I'm like, yeah, yeah, would you like no, no, no,
Speaker 4: bring me one really quick.
Speaker 1: You need it. You need this over up before we
Speaker 1: get to Mamo mam.
Speaker 6: Okay, let's let's talk about coffee because that was a unique.
Speaker 1: This is how we judge our interviews. We've been doing
Speaker 1: this for ten years. We go on ten years.
Speaker 14: Yeah yeah, yeah, so we we like we we judge
Speaker 14: like where time they come and and what what's their
Speaker 14: drink order?
Speaker 1: One? You came super early? Which is which is which
Speaker 1: is super early? Yeah? He came half an hour yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah time. But you ordered coffee? Now you have do
Speaker 1: you have love for coffee?
Speaker 3: Or is that coffee? And when I do press okay? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I want to stay up. I want to stay hyper,
Speaker 3: I want to stay on point.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So what what what?
Speaker 1: What's that?
Speaker 3: Don't make mistakes? Mistakes are costly in the biz right now?
Speaker 6: Yeah, So what's your favorite coffee that we should go to?
Speaker 6: Americano cappuccino?
Speaker 3: I mean this capito is the bomb. This is this,
Speaker 3: but you don't get this in New York. Yeah, the
Speaker 3: home he was making it.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no that that. This is called the big
Speaker 1: Guy okay and makes the best ball out in Miami.
Speaker 1: And I'm a Lobo weather reporter that bring out weather.
Speaker 3: And I bring up asino every day and this is
Speaker 3: the this is the best ball had cheers.
Speaker 1: You know. This is like rocket field, right, I'm like, yea,
Speaker 1: even the bust around. I'm sitting I'm sitting still. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like this. I'm like, oh I got run.
Speaker 3: I'm like I've been reading on my sirs, whole time,
Speaker 3: like Hulk, except for coffee.
Speaker 1: But I lie, this is this is? This is your eye?
Speaker 1: Tell me he's something like?
Speaker 3: It was something like that something?
Speaker 1: Did they only make this here in Miami? Like?
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I don't make it in Manhattan. No, like
Speaker 3: she didn't make it anywhere.
Speaker 1: Okay, Like you have Cubans. I mean that's one thing
Speaker 1: you're reading. Yeah yeah, Holy Ship? Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: You queens you never had that, Okay, you would have
Speaker 3: got good grades. Then we spoke about it lightly, but
Speaker 3: it's Cuban atter.
Speaker 1: All you need to relax. I like talking to something.
Speaker 3: Like that.
Speaker 1: I gotta sell you one more thing. So that's that's
Speaker 1: that's good. We got the series out, Yeah, yeah, Prime?
Speaker 1: So what it's on Prime?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: No, Disney Plush? Oh Ship? Well I thought I saw
Speaker 1: it on Prime. No No, No, I don't think they
Speaker 1: shared it yet. I watch it on Disney Plus. I
Speaker 1: don't got Hulu. Do you have Disney Plus? See what
Speaker 1: your little kids? You got Disney Plus? Oh Ship? Not
Speaker 1: getting because you got ESPN with it too.
Speaker 2: You might just get it, I know.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying I saw it. Are you sure it's
Speaker 1: not a problem? No, bro, it's not.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's not a problem if you got
Speaker 3: a Buleg version.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Leg, you gotta be a version.
Speaker 4: I recall it, and it's a quick watch because the
Speaker 4: episodes are relatively short.
Speaker 1: Half out. Yeah, and it's all Spanish, right, all Spanish.
Speaker 3: And I did a dumb version in English, but the
Speaker 3: Spanish one is I.
Speaker 2: Started watching English and I reverted to the Spanish.
Speaker 3: Oh good, good, good man, because because I worked hard
Speaker 3: at my action to make it as a spot version,
Speaker 3: I dubbed it really okay.
Speaker 1: People who don't like to read.
Speaker 4: The girl saicadio, she's Argentina, right, No, Colombia, is she?
Speaker 2: I swore to got her accents seemed Argentina to me.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, I might be wrong. I just know
Speaker 1: I might be wrong. I know she was Argentine. I
Speaker 1: was like, she sees Argentina to me.
Speaker 2: Everybody else had the Colombian accent.
Speaker 3: One of the one guy was Mexican. Who the kid
Speaker 3: with the boyfriend of that girl, the d the one
Speaker 3: that got killed.
Speaker 1: Yes, what was it?
Speaker 3: He was Mexican dude, but he had a good Colombian accent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 3: Jo contentions and Colombiano Okay, Alchimo Parlo, she loves for.
Speaker 1: That wasps see.
Speaker 6: What Pablo's So, now do you do you experience because
Speaker 6: they say this is a new Columbia, right, like a
Speaker 6: new Columbia, you know, like right now like yeah, like
Speaker 6: like like like married man cannot go Oh that's hard.
Speaker 3: You look for that many man you look for that's
Speaker 3: always been there, always be like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's here in America too. Just why no, no Columbia,
Speaker 1: Columbia like this.
Speaker 6: Listen on the marriage certificated, they say, if you go
Speaker 6: to Columbia, so yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean they.
Speaker 1: Got seriously beautiful women down there. I mean ridiculous beautiful,
Speaker 1: ridicuously beautiful.
Speaker 3: I mean the gene is known as the sex capital
Speaker 3: is beautiful.
Speaker 1: Yeah you knew that, but that's beautiful. I looked at it.
Speaker 2: That's what I said.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's the sex capital of the world. Okay.
Speaker 3: I shot there, and you know there was like people
Speaker 3: from all over the world looking for, you know, a fund.
Speaker 1: Opportunity that we know of. We have our homies here,
Speaker 1: the go there all the time. I'm just like this,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go like this. By the way, that's the
Speaker 1: cocaine section. Just the show.
Speaker 6: You know Columbia, right, they break the questions for quick
Speaker 6: Thomas line.
Speaker 1: We felt.
Speaker 4: I went into the documentary out there and out of
Speaker 4: the five dudes I was with, two of them went missing.
Speaker 1: For sure, get back happy as hell after yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it's it's a wild time out there. Yeah, holy moam,
Speaker 1: you've been Columbia.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you been coming to I tell you what I'm
Speaker 4: talking about it and now it is Colombia.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, listen. I hate.
Speaker 6: I'm hating clearly when I was when I had to
Speaker 6: break it up, it was not it was not the Columbia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is. I've been looking at.
Speaker 4: Instagram, like he saw titlan to the creator killing it
Speaker 4: in Colombia.
Speaker 6: What did he do?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah yeah he was killing well.
Speaker 4: He went to he did a Latin American roum which
Speaker 4: he paid homage to every country was in and he
Speaker 4: was on love and he was like he wore the
Speaker 4: the like the straw hat in Columbia.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, it was good for him. You got
Speaker 6: to work and you got to work in That's the
Speaker 6: reason why when we broke up Spain earlier, when we
Speaker 6: was on so we went we stopped in Spade. I
Speaker 6: believe it was Madrid and Mado. I always tell the story.
Speaker 6: Mato was like Meto is, he's my Dominican friend, but
Speaker 6: he knows every accent, so he knows the Mexican accent,
Speaker 6: he knows the Dominican accent, like we bring him and
Speaker 6: he just they think he's whatever.
Speaker 1: The only place that did not work. He started speaking
Speaker 1: and the guy just looked at him and excuse me
Speaker 1: speaking English? You're like English, And I was like ship
Speaker 1: because the food was too good.
Speaker 6: I was like, I said, they ship at some point
Speaker 6: because because they started.
Speaker 1: Going back and forth. That the only place and didn't work.
Speaker 3: At Yeah, that song was an anthem and your song
Speaker 3: was in you know the Man, and there was the
Speaker 3: first stoutration in the flag.
Speaker 1: It was the first time I wanted to put like,
Speaker 1: you know, like the flags together all that.
Speaker 6: You know, I actually traveled to at least ninety percent
Speaker 6: of those countries.
Speaker 1: So when Bad Bundy did that, and he kind of
Speaker 1: remade that or from me. So you said, you said,
Speaker 1: you said you was crying. I was crying too.
Speaker 6: I didn't want to steal that moment from you because
Speaker 6: because like when I saw that, I was just like, yo,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean? Because one thing that I
Speaker 6: noticed about traveling outside of the United States, this is
Speaker 6: some crazy thing, is if you're racist to me, I'm
Speaker 6: prejudiced towards you. You know what, They all look at
Speaker 6: us like Americans right right, Like if you're racist or
Speaker 6: if you like I hate other people that you live by,
Speaker 6: I suggest you travel outside of the United States because
Speaker 6: soon as they say something you like, oh, you're American,
Speaker 6: like they categorized us in the same category. And that's
Speaker 6: the same thing they do with Latinos, you know what,
Speaker 6: I tell you, always a poppy or cheekos.
Speaker 2: The same on for Latinos and comfortable places too.
Speaker 4: I tell, like, my Latin friends here that are kind
Speaker 4: of leaning right, I said, uh, travel outside of Miami
Speaker 4: and see.
Speaker 1: How you're leaning right. That's that's that's the republic whatever.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 1: I really don't. I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't care about either side of the coin of
Speaker 4: the government, side of the parties. I think they're actually
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, probably both against us.
Speaker 1: But the ones that that lean to.
Speaker 4: The right, that are my friends right now that are
Speaker 4: dealing with right now, I tell them, leave this city
Speaker 4: and see.
Speaker 1: How your comfort level is you don't gonna go that far.
Speaker 1: You go to Fort Mayas, Yeah yeah, you go to
Speaker 1: alle Alley, Jacksonville, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: You leave Brower County and you're already Oh damn, this
Speaker 4: is a little yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 8: So what is it?
Speaker 1: What is your favorite part of the the business?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 1: Is it making a movie or is it actually seeing
Speaker 1: the movie premiere? Oh? Wow? I mean, I love the
Speaker 1: process of creating the work. Uh.
Speaker 3: I just did this incredible movie called The Odyssey that
Speaker 3: comes out in July seventh.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be the monster hit of the decade. Uh.
Speaker 3: And and it's and it's and it was an incredible process.
Speaker 3: First of all, Chris Nolan is an amazing visionary. He's
Speaker 3: above every other director I worked with. I mean, and
Speaker 3: and and I've worked with some amazing people, Baz Luhrmann,
Speaker 3: Brian de Palmer, Tony Scott, Spike, Lee, Ava Duberniy. I
Speaker 3: worked with some greats, but he takes it to a
Speaker 3: hall of the level, man. I mean they filmed in
Speaker 3: seven different countries Morocco, Sicily, Greece, Iceland, Scotland in la
Speaker 3: six months.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Everything was organic, no no c G I no AI.
Speaker 3: The Greek ships from the three hundred BC were all
Speaker 3: made for the movie. Actual locations. We were shot on
Speaker 3: the top of Sicily, on top of this two.
Speaker 1: Hundred foot mountain.
Speaker 3: We all had to be helicoptered every day for a month.
Speaker 3: The whole entire crew, seventy people had to be helicopter
Speaker 3: and all the animals that live on top of this
Speaker 3: mountain where there was a castle from the uh uh
Speaker 3: the three D.
Speaker 1: They flew all the animals up.
Speaker 3: There because they couldn't get the cows and the and the.
Speaker 1: Boars and then the pigs and all that.
Speaker 6: Ah, that's crazy. That makes alloyds for that. Yeah, but
Speaker 6: God comes down from earth heaven. I'm sorry, that's the
Speaker 6: define I'm.
Speaker 1: Drink.
Speaker 6: So God comes down from Heaven his job. You're gonna
Speaker 6: make a movie to save humanity.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 6: You get to pick your director and you get to
Speaker 6: pick your coastar. Yeah, who's your director?
Speaker 1: Who's man? Googler? Is my director? Googlers?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay from the Bay Area? Are ye work foods? Fell Station?
Speaker 1: Your food?
Speaker 6: Michael Jordan Yeah yeah, I could be Jordan, but in
Speaker 6: my co star you will be the Latine Jordan's Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: I'll be the Latin.
Speaker 1: B Jordan's.
Speaker 3: And my co star is going to be uh Melissa Barrera.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, whom Melissa barrere supposed to google that? Google
Speaker 1: that fast?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, come on bro. Now you're looking at me.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at you. You're looking at me. It's Googles
Speaker 1: are working getting approval.
Speaker 6: Okay, it's green bron Okay, okay, now let me actually
Speaker 6: looking hip proofs.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, I know,
Speaker 1: I forget.
Speaker 6: But there's a famous movie right hallm nights right yeah yeah,
Speaker 6: and you know you get you get the hints that
Speaker 6: you know, Kevin Hard is making me making this over.
Speaker 6: What Latino movie would you want to make over?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm always.
Speaker 3: A great.
Speaker 1: I love that make fun of love.
Speaker 12: Man's a coffee, it's extra you go creation so milk.
Speaker 1: Yo.
Speaker 3: I mean, I I don't want to put so many
Speaker 3: gangs the films into the into the atmosphere, but Scarfish
Speaker 3: would be done. To remake that with a real Latin actor,
Speaker 3: like like Niciel Toro or or Benjamin it would be dope,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like really make remake it,
Speaker 3: but make it real.
Speaker 1: He just made me think did you see that movie?
Speaker 4: Oh man, the one was Sean Payne Benicio, the one
Speaker 4: that just got Chicario's No.
Speaker 3: No. One Battle after another.
Speaker 2: I just saw recently.
Speaker 1: Crazy Yeah, the best part. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Have you seen how about our go Let's do our goal,
Speaker 3: Let's do it over again?
Speaker 4: Guy?
Speaker 3: Yeah, was playing a Mexican dude, that's right.
Speaker 1: He was an FBI, a Mexican FBI. He didn't Latin guy.
Speaker 3: He dot his hair black, he put ahead a mustache.
Speaker 1: I didn't see that. But let me hello, let me
Speaker 1: play Devil's advocate.
Speaker 2: If someone told you, but an actor could play anything.
Speaker 3: Right, that's the way it should be, right. But it
Speaker 3: hasn't been like that.
Speaker 1: We couldn't even play in our own movies.
Speaker 2: Man, right, I see what you're saying.
Speaker 3: That's the problem.
Speaker 1: I mean, is the catching touch of evil.
Speaker 3: A bird Lancaster playing Mexican with like brown face and
Speaker 3: whatnot Eli wallach In in Sam Peckham Paul movie The
Speaker 3: Last like this, we don't need those thinking budges, you know, like.
Speaker 1: The Last Mexican played by Brad Pitt.
Speaker 3: That's another one. I mean, there's so many of that.
Speaker 1: It's called the Last Mexican and Brad Pitt the last Mexican.
Speaker 11: You know, remember something like that last last summer last.
Speaker 1: That's what.
Speaker 3: A different one?
Speaker 1: That's a different one, this one, the.
Speaker 5: Last He's like, yes, something like that, something like that
Speaker 5: becomes a Brad is playing the last Mexicans, like, did
Speaker 5: you guys find that?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 8: I know, crazy, get something, and I changes the context
Speaker 8: the last saying I'm like, what the fuck.
Speaker 1: With Julia Wabas Yeah? Yeah, and Tony Soprano in there too, yeah,
Speaker 1: change Dandelfini yea.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I wondered nothing thinking about this the way we
Speaker 4: said it. I wonder if Japanese people felt that way
Speaker 4: about the Lesson. We're like, what the funk?
Speaker 1: Yeah? What about the last summer?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: The last group? It's like people, all right, they must
Speaker 1: have been coming.
Speaker 3: That's why you go to the last last quarto Ricans?
Speaker 1: Who's gonna play that?
Speaker 2: Honey?
Speaker 1: Is no bad money to kill it? Yeah? Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do it. I'm doing I'm doing a movie on handball,
Speaker 1: oh for real?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You nice? Sure, I'm not a nice you see
Speaker 1: how you think about it? You gotta get that that
Speaker 1: from that back, cracking your hand, Yeah.
Speaker 3: You gotta get that early before everybody starts playing, because
Speaker 3: otherwise your hand's not gonna be hard enough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to kill it, to kill it. Everybody in the
Speaker 1: corner and let it roll out. Yeah, okay, you spin
Speaker 1: on the ball, Okay, okay, yeah, be sneaking into the handball?
Speaker 3: No, you knows dump into handball. Is Ed O'Neil, the
Speaker 3: guy from a Modern Family really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he loves he loves handball.
Speaker 5: Hero.
Speaker 1: He's from Queens.
Speaker 3: He's trying to playing hand Yeah, he's the guy man,
Speaker 3: he plays handful.
Speaker 1: Man, I know how to put my hands in my
Speaker 1: shorts because.
Speaker 6: I mean he was, He's all he's alleged. When you
Speaker 6: watch TV, you gotta you gotta do the out Bundy,
Speaker 6: come on, come on, goddamn.
Speaker 1: So he knows how to play hand yeah yeah, wow.
Speaker 6: You know like dodgeball, Yeah yeah, dodgeball like that's like
Speaker 6: the Underground funny movie, but handball handball, like you know.
Speaker 1: The guy with the.
Speaker 2: Head man and he says the pitch right now.
Speaker 1: Definitely is.
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 1: Both drink.
Speaker 6: Do you ever do you ever think where like uh
Speaker 6: it would it ever be like uh, you know, like
Speaker 6: they haven't the moment like you know, like uh like
Speaker 6: I said with hard them Knights, was like, yeah you
Speaker 6: see these these a black comedian, you'll go into the
Speaker 6: four four.
Speaker 1: Do you ever feel like the Latin movement is going
Speaker 1: to have that moment?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's definitely coming.
Speaker 3: I mean we've got a lot of obstacles to overcome,
Speaker 3: you know, but we're getting to the point where we're
Speaker 3: getting more and more and more power, more and more stars.
Speaker 3: You know, we got Oscar Isaacs, we got Petter up
Speaker 3: b a scal you know, you got j Low, you
Speaker 3: got Dennist. We got enough talent now and moving up
Speaker 3: in the power structure to be able to green light
Speaker 3: those type of movies that are all Latin. I mean,
Speaker 3: look at Incanto, that finally happened man, in all Latin
Speaker 3: Latin story.
Speaker 1: You had the animated movie before.
Speaker 2: Coco, Coco.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a great one. That was
Speaker 1: another great Yeah Coco. I thought that was about the
Speaker 1: Hawaiian people. No, no, no, no, you're thinking of Mowana.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the last Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're getting there, man, We're getting close.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that changes a lot because it's changing the
Speaker 4: children's ideas of themselves.
Speaker 1: They see themselves represented.
Speaker 3: I mean, did you see those little kids dancing to
Speaker 3: and Kanto seeing themselves. I mean, it was incredible when
Speaker 3: when little apple Latino children saw themselves in that movie
Speaker 3: reflected back and they light their eyes light up seeing.
Speaker 1: That they know that they're beautiful.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 4: But you know the problem for Latinos. I think the
Speaker 4: hurdle that we have is that we're against each other.
Speaker 4: And that's a huge hurdle.
Speaker 3: I'm not against you, No, we can't deny you're not
Speaker 3: against me.
Speaker 1: No, what are you talking about? But there's a thing.
Speaker 1: There's a thing.
Speaker 4: There's the Mexicans, the Cubans, the Dominicans, the Colombians, and
Speaker 4: it's the colonials mind frame.
Speaker 1: That's that's keeping us divisives a little. I feel like
Speaker 1: we're all much more united. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I feel like when I tour around the country and
Speaker 3: the rice and Bean circuit, you know, the twenty six cities. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I did that twenty six cities across America. I made
Speaker 3: mad money, and it was like, you know, Mexicans, Central Americans.
Speaker 3: I came to Miami, it's all Cubans and Puerto Ricans
Speaker 3: and Colombians. You go, you go to Boston, it's Puerto Rican.
Speaker 15: And Dominican, and then Chicago is Puerto Rican, Mexic, Cuban
Speaker 15: and Mexican, and they all came out for me and
Speaker 15: supported me, and George Lopez did that in Fluffy.
Speaker 1: It's I don't know. I saw much more unity than
Speaker 1: I felt like they didn't.
Speaker 3: They all supported, they all understood what I was talking about,
Speaker 3: they all related.
Speaker 1: I didn't feel the divisiity. No, I think you're right.
Speaker 1: You're right. The majority are not like that.
Speaker 4: But it's always in this world the small minority that
Speaker 4: has the louder voice that I think, like and what
Speaker 4: you're just saying, Like I'm going to say. I don't
Speaker 4: know if I've told this on Drink Shins, but I
Speaker 4: had a conversation with pit Bull at one point in
Speaker 4: his career when the label he was originally on TVT Records,
Speaker 4: they were they were going bankrupts, right, and Pitt was
Speaker 4: going through some difficult times in that time, and I
Speaker 4: remember I was like, Yo, what I don't remember exactly
Speaker 4: the conversation, so I'm going to give you a sense
Speaker 4: of the conversation. He was like, I'm performing every weekend
Speaker 4: on the West Coast and in Mexico, He's like, they
Speaker 4: support the ship.
Speaker 1: Out of mean he's Cuban.
Speaker 4: He's like, I'm doing shows every weekend there, so in
Speaker 4: this time that it looks like he's falling off and
Speaker 4: everything's over this side of the country and these people
Speaker 4: are embracing him. And then I had the opportunity to
Speaker 4: do a show with one of my artists. I had
Speaker 4: a Cuban artists. We went out to Mexico, to Mexicali,
Speaker 4: and we did a show out there with Pitt. We
Speaker 4: opened up for the Mexican folks, put a flag, a
Speaker 4: Cuban flag all the way down showing look and then
Speaker 4: Pitt it's smart as he is and embracing.
Speaker 2: This comes out to Mariacci music.
Speaker 1: Wearing from Joe and I was like, hate it back.
Speaker 4: I was like, this is this and then taught me
Speaker 4: a list like how we're all in the shared experience
Speaker 4: of being Latino.
Speaker 1: Let's support each other, all of us.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what would be for office bro? I know,
Speaker 1: we said remade that we still do we do we
Speaker 1: answer that we make Yeah, We're gonna do. But Margo
Speaker 1: Argo is not really a Latin movie. But you said
Speaker 1: he played he played.
Speaker 3: He played the Mexican, an FBI guy, but he did,
Speaker 3: you know, But it should have been a Latin version,
Speaker 3: is all right? Okay, it should have been a Latin movie, yes,
Speaker 3: because it was a Latin idol and he should have
Speaker 3: been a hero for us and an icon.
Speaker 1: But it's not because a white guy played it so
Speaker 1: and he did a great job. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: He directed the ship out of it. But still not
Speaker 1: American mean, not blood in blood American meat.
Speaker 3: Was Oh my god, that was so hard man, that
Speaker 3: was hard.
Speaker 4: Even, and that's the real story. Was the real story
Speaker 4: that American Meat was trying to depict.
Speaker 1: What do you mean confused? You know? You know the
Speaker 1: politics behind that? You know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of street politics behind American means versus.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, now I know.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: I saw a documentary they made about American document up
Speaker 1: over that movie.
Speaker 3: Because of the they said names and they talked about sing.
Speaker 4: They depicted certain things that either wasn't agreed upon by
Speaker 4: by the by.
Speaker 2: Or or they felt it was wrong one or the others.
Speaker 1: People lost their lives, right, yeah, But.
Speaker 4: Blood and Blood Out was they felt was more accurate,
Speaker 4: and that was supported so.
Speaker 1: They got a green light on that they got passed.
Speaker 1: Did you feel that that way about, you know, making
Speaker 1: the esketball? Well, no, we had to we had the
Speaker 1: son the sons, uh but.
Speaker 6: Still but still it was still that the son's approved
Speaker 6: was different from his enemies approved.
Speaker 3: No, but they're God now, I think we're safe now.
Speaker 3: I mean that that was nineteen eighty. Most of those
Speaker 3: people are not alive, the majority of the Pollo's enemies.
Speaker 6: But you did hear Griselda blocker Blo. She went back
Speaker 6: to Colombia and they killed you.
Speaker 1: But whatever? Is that nothing? That was ten years ago? Yeah,
Speaker 1: ten years ago?
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, I'm ten years It be fine, I'm cool,
Speaker 3: I'm cool. Most of the people not alive, right, yeah, yeah, No,
Speaker 3: you gotta be careful sometimes with the kind of stuff
Speaker 3: you say and do. I mean it, it has consequences.
Speaker 3: Just because the movie doesn't mean you have immunity, right right, Well, well.
Speaker 5: He's gotta go, he's gotta get Yeah, we're gonna take
Speaker 5: pictures and yeah, you want more drink?
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, you want to hold on, Yeah,
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