WEBVTT - The WNBA!  They’ve finally got our attention

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<v Speaker 1>And with the number one selection in the WNBA Draft

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty seven, the Minnesota Links select Julie Tatar and

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<v Speaker 1>the second pick, the Chicago Sky pick Ennis Canter Freedom.

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<v Speaker 1>What the hell is going on with the WNBA? Look

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<v Speaker 1>at the chaos, the brawling. Oh my god, it's all

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<v Speaker 1>so Frankly, it's brilliant. We'll get into that and the

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<v Speaker 1>latest with Amy Griffin. It is Hot Mike's with Billy

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<v Speaker 1>Bush and away we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Here doing me right, might Shark.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the same, like another compliment there the NBA. Hello, Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>my friends, and welcome to Hot Mikes. Thanks for being

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<v Speaker 1>like to have you with us. Boy, we got a

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<v Speaker 1>busy day here today. Uh, what is going on with

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<v Speaker 1>the WNBA. It's like it is it just my algorithm?

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<v Speaker 1>Or has it totally like infested yours? It's everything the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA has always wanted, Right, They're about to be thirty

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<v Speaker 1>years old as a league, and finally everybody's talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the w everybody's watching the WNBA. It's incredible, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>not talking about the skill level or you know, who

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<v Speaker 1>beat whom, or what it's all about. The chaos. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all about the side show and bonjour, Julie Tetar. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you believe, Julie Tetara, This is the only person the

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<v Speaker 1>debate of transgender women playing in the WNBA, playing professional

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<v Speaker 1>women's basketball. This is the only person whom the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>really affects. Right, the sideshow guys like enniscanter Freedom and

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<v Speaker 1>Royce Wilson or White whatever the hell his name is,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get into the league, you know, after having

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<v Speaker 1>marginal NBA careers, you know, jumping in as a women's player.

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<v Speaker 1>These guys are opportunists, their side show, they're looking for

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<v Speaker 1>something to do. But Julie Teta would a French professional

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<v Speaker 1>player would of course, the French have you know, transgender men,

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<v Speaker 1>women whatever playing women's basketball. But maybe Julie would come

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<v Speaker 1>over and play here. But it probably only affects Julie.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a great hot button issue, something that the

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<v Speaker 1>the woke left puts out there as a litmus test,

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<v Speaker 1>and now every coach and every player has to speak

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<v Speaker 1>about it. They have to give their opinion about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and basically they have to survive their opinion going public

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<v Speaker 1>before they get you know, called for cancelation. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all this drama in the WNBA, it's about racial tensions, sism,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about bias and white privilege and all these things

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<v Speaker 1>and at the courts biological men in the w NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great debate. I mean, it's like it's gathering

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<v Speaker 1>so much attention. Commissioner Kathy Engelbert of the WNBA is

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<v Speaker 1>voicing an official position after a task force of presidents

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<v Speaker 1>and gms of different teams convene this week. Okay, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course these bozos who've announced for the draft cannot

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<v Speaker 1>be taken seriously. There's irony in here, too beautiful irony.

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<v Speaker 1>There are cries of sexism, as some female coaches are

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<v Speaker 1>pissed off that there are too many male coaches in

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<v Speaker 1>the WNBA. Should be more women on the bench than men.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute, what coach, you don't want men in

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<v Speaker 1>the league? Little duplicitous. I think that's kind of what

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about on the court here. The level of

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<v Speaker 1>play in WNBA is obviously vastly inferior to the NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>So all this debate and this discord, is it unfortunate?

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<v Speaker 1>Do we blame the patriarchy? Why? Why is this happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you, the whole league seems to have been

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<v Speaker 1>bravatized like the Real Housewives of the WNBA. It's basket

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<v Speaker 1>brawl in full hair and makeup. It reminds me of

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<v Speaker 1>Roller Derby. When I was a kid. I used to

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<v Speaker 1>watch these women just careening around the corner and just

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<v Speaker 1>taking each other out. It was fascinating. You can't take

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<v Speaker 1>your eyes off it. And that seems to be what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on in the WNBA. But what matters here? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's entertainment, isn't it. But it seems to be like

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<v Speaker 1>a little WWE and it seems to be a little

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<v Speaker 1>Roller Derby, and of course built around basketball as a game,

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<v Speaker 1>but all these side shows and antics and fights and

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<v Speaker 1>cat fights and you know, her versus her, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems to me that it's kind of the main attraction.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the WNBA has a second star. It was Caitlin

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<v Speaker 1>Clark alone, and now Sophie Cunningham is in there. The

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<v Speaker 1>tall blonde. She is absolutely gorgeous. She's hot, blonde, mouthy, feisty, tailor,

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<v Speaker 1>made for social media. She is if the Real house

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<v Speaker 1>was the NBA was a thing. She's the Bethany Frankel.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, she's got a big mouth, and she's good looking,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's absolutely entertaining. She got mauled in a game

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<v Speaker 1>against Djona Carrington, who plays for the Chicago Sky got

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<v Speaker 1>ejected for what would be called assault and battery if

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<v Speaker 1>it were to happen on the streets somewhere. And by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, apparently Florida. This is extended that the Attorney

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<v Speaker 1>General of Florida has commented on this. The WNBA knows

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<v Speaker 1>better than to play games down here in Florida because

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be charging people with assault. What are you doing

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<v Speaker 1>commenting on the WNBA, sir, go back to work, James Ofthmeyer,

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General of Florida. This isn't even a Florida team.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about Indiana versus Chicago. Leave it to the

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<v Speaker 1>Midwest here, by the way, He then came back and

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<v Speaker 1>corrected himself, as I should clarify assault and battery, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>the referee crew chief for this game where the drama

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<v Speaker 1>was was male and white like Sophie, So of course

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<v Speaker 1>d Jena, after getting ejected from the game, cries white privilege, girl. Please.

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<v Speaker 1>Djona loves beef as much as her thighs on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>She is a tremendous self promoter. She's you know, she

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<v Speaker 1>has a history with the white male for now referee

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<v Speaker 1>Roy Gulbaien. She posted in twenty twenty five after he

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<v Speaker 1>ejected her, oh after sorry, he called security because she

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<v Speaker 1>was going after him after the clock when the game

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<v Speaker 1>had ended. He called security on her and she posted

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<v Speaker 1>hashtag micro aggression. Amazingly in this situation, when the altercation

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<v Speaker 1>occurs between Sophie Cunningham and Djona Carrington, Djona gets goes

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<v Speaker 1>back to the locker room, and two minutes before the

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<v Speaker 1>game end, with two minutes left to play, she tweets

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<v Speaker 1>the white privilege. The game is still going on, but

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<v Speaker 1>she has the fortitude to go out and hit Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>and post that it's brilliant. It gets people engaged. But

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<v Speaker 1>the idea that white players get special treatment in the WNBA,

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<v Speaker 1>do you buy that it's three to one black players

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<v Speaker 1>to white players, so I imagine that you know that

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<v Speaker 1>would be outrageous. I don't think that's the case. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's undisputable that Caitlin Clark is head and shoulders,

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<v Speaker 1>the best athlete on the court, the best player on

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<v Speaker 1>the court, and the best player was Michael Jordan and

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<v Speaker 1>w in NBA and Lebron and they get all the

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<v Speaker 1>attention in the world because they are the best, not

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<v Speaker 1>because they're the black best. Sophie Cunningham has three point

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<v Speaker 1>six million Instagram followers. Djna now has five hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine thousand. Picking a fight with Sophie Cunningham is

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<v Speaker 1>a brilliant move for Djna Carrington, who, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>also gorgeous, a gorgeous blod, totally stunning. These two are

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<v Speaker 1>right now, what's drawing in a lot of people? Does

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<v Speaker 1>white chick drama sell more than I don't know, white

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<v Speaker 1>and black or black and black? Does it? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm new to This doesn't seem like it to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Caitlin Collins, the star of the WNBA, just got a

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<v Speaker 1>ridiculous call against her overturned. Is that privilege or is

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<v Speaker 1>that just because the call was absolutely horrible they had

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<v Speaker 1>to overturn it or it would have been you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there would have been calls of racism the other way.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a black baseline judge who made the call

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<v Speaker 1>of a technical foul because she went up for a

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<v Speaker 1>layup and then like literally the ref was underneath the rim.

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<v Speaker 1>She kind of moved out of her way and tapped

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<v Speaker 1>her as she went by, and Caitlyn knew there is

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<v Speaker 1>no way this is going to stand. This technical foul

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<v Speaker 1>and it was her eighth technical foul, which means she

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<v Speaker 1>had to sit out the next game. She said, this

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<v Speaker 1>will be overturned, and it was overturned, and for only

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<v Speaker 1>one reason. It's a shitty call. The Real Housewives of

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA. They need Sophie Cunningham. She's like she's tailor made.

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<v Speaker 1>She's unbelievable. Caitlyn Collins is very good, but she's not

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<v Speaker 1>She can't hold the audience enough, right, She's a little

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<v Speaker 1>boring on the drama side. Sophie Cunningham's unbelievable. How about

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<v Speaker 1>the Donald? Caroline Levitt, the Press Secretarya, for the way

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<v Speaker 1>she's asked in a press conference, hey, has Trump connected

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<v Speaker 1>with Sophie Cunningham because you know they're trying to of course,

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<v Speaker 1>because she speaks in one statement that's a common sense statement.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump usually sees that and says, okay, they're maga. Like

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<v Speaker 1>Spencer Pratty. Tried to make Spencer pratt his They asked

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<v Speaker 1>as Donald reached out to Sophie. It would be very

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Donald sk to reach out and make Sophie

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<v Speaker 1>Cunningham his put her under his tent. No hasn't happened.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're Sophie Cunningham, believe me, you're sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>going please please, mister president, move on. Do other things?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't come to me. Caitlin Clark is definitely too big

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<v Speaker 1>a star to She's she's what keeps the credibility of

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<v Speaker 1>the w NBA as a sport. She's she's the best

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<v Speaker 1>player by far. She drives the ratings as far as

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<v Speaker 1>basketball goes. But Sophie Cunningham, I mean, she's like a

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<v Speaker 1>defender on the court. She's tough, she's great looking. She

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<v Speaker 1>is central casting here. And this all started when Sophie

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<v Speaker 1>Cunningham said one simple thing. She said to ESPN. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to protect young girls in the locker room or

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<v Speaker 1>girls in sports who shouldn't have to go up against

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<v Speaker 1>biological men. That is exhibit one. Do we have that, Harry?

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<v Speaker 1>Do we have exhibit one?

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<v Speaker 3>I think I said what I said.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's kind of common sense, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>I'll always believe in that. I think it's really important

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<v Speaker 4>to protect children and that's little girls who are also

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<v Speaker 4>involved in that category. And so I stand on what

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<v Speaker 4>I said, and I always believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you see your Yeah, who's trying to No one

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<v Speaker 1>really disagrees with this, No one serious disagrees with what

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<v Speaker 1>she's saying. But it's like this great litmus test. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, it just makes everybody have to come out

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<v Speaker 1>and say what you believe, or you know, see if

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<v Speaker 1>you can survive the next gotcha moment. Every coach is

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<v Speaker 1>shitting her pants when she's sitting in a press conference

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<v Speaker 1>and she's asked about this the next game after Sophie

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<v Speaker 1>Cunningham said this was against the Seattle Storm, and one

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<v Speaker 1>of the co owners, ce Les Keaton, comes out and

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<v Speaker 1>she's berating fans outside the stadium or you know, being

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<v Speaker 1>anti trans Celess got fined by the WNBA for attacking

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<v Speaker 1>fans as she should. She got fined and she has

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<v Speaker 1>to serve a five game suspension home games Suspensionly can't

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<v Speaker 1>like at ten games or something. Yeah, it's not about

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<v Speaker 1>exclusion or hate. It's about fairness. There are absolutely no

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<v Speaker 1>trans men women who become men who play in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not going to happen. And there's no chance in

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<v Speaker 1>hell any one of them would survive. But in contrast,

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA player with the least amount of minutes and

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<v Speaker 1>points would be an unbelievable star in the WNBA MVP

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<v Speaker 1>every year. Right, So stop like those who are trying

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<v Speaker 1>to create infighting and tear down every last wall in society.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the people that are actually perpetuating this debate.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the WNBA is you know, they're benefiting from

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<v Speaker 1>it overall. They're getting a lot of attention. But there

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<v Speaker 1>is this movement in our country. I can feel it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess you call it wokeism or whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's people just wanting to tear down every.

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<v Speaker 3>Wall.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't mean wall that means locks somebody out,

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<v Speaker 1>but every bit of structural support as a society we

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<v Speaker 1>can rely on to hold us together. Right, every statue

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<v Speaker 1>of it's the same people, a statue of a Civil

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<v Speaker 1>War general, Oh my god, they were a terrible racist

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<v Speaker 1>or something else. Tear down the statue, tear rewrite our

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<v Speaker 1>history so much shame, Like, who are these people that

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<v Speaker 1>try to do that? And it's such a small group.

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<v Speaker 1>We all know that it's a small loud group. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's effective. So Sophie Cunningham's statement in defense of girls,

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<v Speaker 1>as she said, has prompted the typical role call around

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<v Speaker 1>the league, right, the highly pressurized where do you stand?

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<v Speaker 1>We need to hear from you and then we'll decide

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not to run you out of business. Here

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<v Speaker 1>is coach Cheryl Reeve of the Minnesota Lynx, right, she

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<v Speaker 1>came out wearing this shirt trans kids belong. Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a hedge. Do trans athletes belong in your league? She

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<v Speaker 1>thinks that she can virtue signal here and she's been

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<v Speaker 1>accounted for, and then she can, you know, slide back

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<v Speaker 1>into the background. But you know, this is a woman

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<v Speaker 1>who is actively complaining to the press that men are

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<v Speaker 1>taking WNBA coaching jobs. So what about them taking you know,

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<v Speaker 1>positions in the starting lineup? Would it help if the

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<v Speaker 1>coaches wore pleated pantsuits? By the way, the Fever are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna need some dudes on their team to protect Sophie Cunningham,

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<v Speaker 1>who's getting mauled while she protects against Caitlin Clark. And

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look at this is the foul that everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. She got absolutely banged in the face with

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<v Speaker 1>an elbow it. It's blatant no protection or backup from

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<v Speaker 1>Sophie's own coach. By the way, the Indiana Fever coach,

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<v Speaker 1>Stephanie White, she was one of the people who had

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<v Speaker 1>to take to a press conference. She was asked about

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<v Speaker 1>her feelings about the issue, and the verbal diarrhea that

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<v Speaker 1>escaped this woman's mouth is indicative of the looming fear

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<v Speaker 1>of cancelation. It's alive and well. Listen to coach White

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<v Speaker 1>here of the Fever.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that I would say that I'm educated enough from

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<v Speaker 3>a scientific standpoint, I don't ever believe that exclusion is

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<v Speaker 3>an answer.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I do think, you know, when we think about various

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<v Speaker 3>levels of sport, various governing bodies of sport, and things

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<v Speaker 3>that go into that, Like I said, I'm not I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not educated enough at the different levels. I know growing up,

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<v Speaker 3>I played with the boys.

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<v Speaker 1>All the time sports. Would you welcome a biological mail

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<v Speaker 1>in w n B A.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, It's like, I don't know when we talk about

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<v Speaker 3>biological mail and scientifically where we are. I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>a totally different scenario. You know, as I said, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not educated enough. And in terms of trans transgender and

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<v Speaker 3>transitioning to give you.

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<v Speaker 4>Mensor.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say though that I just don't feel like

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<v Speaker 3>exclusion is an answer, and I think that we need

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<v Speaker 3>to have deeper, more layered conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>What got that off rapp right there? I think exclusions there, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I need and out. She goes, uh, yeah, that was unhewful.

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<v Speaker 1>But listen, I empathize with her because everybody's did this

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<v Speaker 1>is a litmus test. Like I said, this is just

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<v Speaker 1>about a gotcha. It's a gotcha question meant to drive

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<v Speaker 1>social media and Coach White could go up in flames.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Coach White will be coaching the next game.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a satisfactor. It was a terrible answer, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you survived. But you know, she's scared to

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<v Speaker 1>support her player in this case. I think also because

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<v Speaker 1>the woman that gave her the big elbow is a

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<v Speaker 1>black player, and she went out of her way in

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<v Speaker 1>the same press conference to to you know, compliment Dja

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<v Speaker 1>Carrington for her tough play. And she's a great she's

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<v Speaker 1>a great athlete, and but we just love you know, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>she plays hard and all this stuff. Why why it's

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<v Speaker 1>too bad you're the coach of the team. You should

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<v Speaker 1>say what the hell was that? Who's talking about Sophie Cunny.

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<v Speaker 1>Sophie Cunningham is getting hit everywhere like Caitlyn Collins. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>another anti woke and WNBA coach, Natalie Nicassi from the

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<v Speaker 1>Golden State Valkyries.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's her all about women, little girls deserving to play,

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<v Speaker 3>and that includes trans women.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm all about inclusivity. Ooh, there you go. She's

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<v Speaker 1>all about trans women playing in your league. Really, Natalie,

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<v Speaker 1>are you really? I hope her players like approach her

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<v Speaker 1>in the locker room and say, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you doing? Virtue signaling? Check? Look at me?

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to invite trans players again, It's not a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people. Julie Tetar would definitely play in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not if you want to like look Commissioner Kathy Engelberg, right,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a giant headache for her of the WNBA,

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<v Speaker 1>although she should be very excited that a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>attention is on the league. Next year will be the

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<v Speaker 1>third anniversary of the WNBA, and it is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>people are talking about it and going to games and

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<v Speaker 1>participating in the drama. Sadly, a lot of it is

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<v Speaker 1>real housewives, you know, basketbawl and not just you know

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<v Speaker 1>who shot how many three pointers? But this should be

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<v Speaker 1>easy for the commissioner, who's convening a task force this

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<v Speaker 1>week to talk about this, which is it's such a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just you know, to say we did.

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<v Speaker 1>But the IOC, the International Olympic Committee, just banned trans

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<v Speaker 1>athletes from competition. They will give genetic testing. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the WNBA can just draft in behind that. They're the one,

0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:49.439
<v Speaker 1>they're a bigger governing body, and they're international and they

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<v Speaker 1>have said this is bullshit, it's not happening. So all

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<v Speaker 1>you can do you can defer to them, tuck in

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<v Speaker 1>behind their way. Can do a little genetic testing too.

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<v Speaker 1>I say to Enniscanter Freedom, who wants to play. He

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<v Speaker 1>wants to register for the twenty twenty seven WNBA draft,

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<v Speaker 1>And Royce White who wants to register, Okay, chop off

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<v Speaker 1>your twig and berries. You don't just get to put

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<v Speaker 1>on a dress and heels, Ennis, you gotta chop off

0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:18.080
<v Speaker 1>the twig and berries if you want to play. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you do that, I don't know, I'm tempted to

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<v Speaker 1>let the guy. I mean, that's a major sacrifice they'd

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<v Speaker 1>better not be junk underneath that dress my friend's if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to, although nice legs on enniscanther freedom. So

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<v Speaker 1>Kathy Engelbert, in a leaked memo nothing is leaked by accident,

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<v Speaker 1>went out to all the teams acknowledge there have been

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of questions lately about the transgender athletes in

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<v Speaker 1>women's basketball issue. She said, this is a complex and

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<v Speaker 1>nuanced issue, is it really? We're gonna hold discussions and

0:21:56.880 --> 0:21:59.919
<v Speaker 1>listening sessions for any and all who want to discuss.

0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:03.040
<v Speaker 1>That'll be a very small zoom as soon as you say, hey,

0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:05.960
<v Speaker 1>we're all getting together to talk about this. We'd rather

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<v Speaker 1>just like post a loud tweet about it. But we're

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<v Speaker 1>not actually interested in the discussion. The intellectualism of it all. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So the task Force is convening its presidents and gms

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<v Speaker 1>this week. It's an already scheduled meeting, they say, but

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<v Speaker 1>they'll get into it now. The WNBA Players Association, the

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<v Speaker 1>other official statement, said, we embrace justice and DEI diversity,

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<v Speaker 1>equity and inclusion. Those are the values that unite this

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<v Speaker 1>union and allow it to protect women's sports while creating

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<v Speaker 1>transformational change. Word salid word salid word salid. Hate abuse

0:22:42.840 --> 0:22:46.520
<v Speaker 1>and demonization of any person or group of people, including

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<v Speaker 1>transgender people, only fuel fear, division, and harm will continue

0:22:51.080 --> 0:22:53.439
<v Speaker 1>to have hard conversations, but will not be used as

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<v Speaker 1>political pawns. This is, you know, you take a larger stance.

0:22:57.800 --> 0:23:03.840
<v Speaker 1>This is it's a greater mission. Hate abuse, demonization of

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<v Speaker 1>any person or group of people, including transgender people, only

0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:12.440
<v Speaker 1>fuel fear. Look, this is just about fairness, right. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a reason why women's professional tennis players don't play men's tennis.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just fairness. How about Obama. I gotta say this

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<v Speaker 1>is a good look for Obama. He's not weighing in

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<v Speaker 1>on the issue, but he's just a plain and simply

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<v Speaker 1>a Caitlin Clark fan. And you know, I probably some

0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:40.679
<v Speaker 1>black players aren't going to love this, but please remember

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<v Speaker 1>Obama is Switzerland. He is half black and he is

0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:46.679
<v Speaker 1>half white, so he is racial Switzerland. He is allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to come and he just likes Caitlin Clark sore at

0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:52.159
<v Speaker 1>an event, and he was super excited and encouraged her

0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:55.400
<v Speaker 1>to like keep up the tough skin. Exhibit six.

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<v Speaker 2>Obama, how are you yeah really nice to me? Oh hey, Caitlyn,

0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:05.120
<v Speaker 2>how are you really nice to meet you. You're great,

0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:11.320
<v Speaker 2>You're fantastic. Don't let all this nonsense get you back. Yeah,

0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:13.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, I always say.

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<v Speaker 5>One of the things that was luckiest for me was

0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:20.240
<v Speaker 5>I didn't get famous to a lot like forty five,

0:24:21.000 --> 0:24:23.440
<v Speaker 5>so I was the old ass man. I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 5>my daughter. Say you're not to have that much sue. Yeah,

0:24:26.840 --> 0:24:32.159
<v Speaker 5>you know, person nonsense, So don't lose that joy. The

0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:35.600
<v Speaker 5>game's like again, yeah, and you're a hooper and either

0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:39.080
<v Speaker 5>sometimes you always heard and you're on a nice little

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<v Speaker 5>run right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on, that's very presidential. That's very

0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:48.399
<v Speaker 1>old bull. Been there, done that, you know, seeing that,

0:24:48.920 --> 0:24:52.040
<v Speaker 1>and you know there's no colors in all of this.

0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Caitlin Clark is totally targeted by everybody in the league,

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<v Speaker 1>but she drives the league and that pisses off a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people. But he loves it. He loves her fight,

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:05.720
<v Speaker 1>he loves her ability. She gets back up. That was cool.

0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:11.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's not a political moment. Whenever there is

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<v Speaker 1>an uproar though, or like you know, chaos or something

0:25:14.560 --> 0:25:17.760
<v Speaker 1>a row, you know, in the public sphere, there are

0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:21.920
<v Speaker 1>those ready to capitalize and exploit. We laughed about Royce White,

0:25:22.280 --> 0:25:27.040
<v Speaker 1>who wants to register for the WNBA twenty twenty seven draft.

0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:30.800
<v Speaker 1>He's a former NBA player and not that great. He also,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, is wanting to run for US Senate.

0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:38.200
<v Speaker 1>So he's just got two whatever comes first, right, running

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<v Speaker 1>for senator or WNBA power Forward. I'll take either one, Royce.

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:48.359
<v Speaker 1>We appreciate your hustle, but that's opportunism right there. But

0:25:48.480 --> 0:25:50.440
<v Speaker 1>there are other people getting in on the act, and

0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:53.679
<v Speaker 1>you know a lot of guys like it. The manisphere

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:57.440
<v Speaker 1>is loving this action. Dave Portnoy from Barstool Sports. He

0:25:57.600 --> 0:26:02.000
<v Speaker 1>loves this whole topic. Ex players love it. As you

0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:07.520
<v Speaker 1>saw OutKick Sports. Clay Travis is putting his money where

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:11.080
<v Speaker 1>his mouth is. Ten million dollars. He said he will

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<v Speaker 1>give ten million to any WNBA team who can beat

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<v Speaker 1>the high school boys state champion of your choice. Any

0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:24.960
<v Speaker 1>state you choose could beat you know, Maine, Rhode Island, Delaware,

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:33.840
<v Speaker 1>small places. The truth is he's right right, Most boys

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<v Speaker 1>high school state champions I think would win over a

0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:41.520
<v Speaker 1>WNBA team. Also, you have to decide what size ball

0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:43.520
<v Speaker 1>you're going to be using, because the women use a

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<v Speaker 1>six and the NBA uses a seven. So you know

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 1>you got to work that out, but I would say

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<v Speaker 1>a second of your time, sir, as you talk about size, Eric, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll make it quick please, I'm on ah.

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<v Speaker 2>The size of walls so six, like the size of

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<v Speaker 2>your shoe is what you're saying, like versus my eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>Sixth Okay, moving forward here, I don't know what that was.

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:22.400
<v Speaker 1>The amazing thing here is it's drawing all kinds of commentary.

0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, Klay Travis means it. He says, he means it.

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<v Speaker 1>So if we is it too much of a side

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:36.280
<v Speaker 1>show to have a boys state champion team from America,

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:38.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, like anywhere in the country take on a

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:43.240
<v Speaker 1>WNBA team. It's diminishing. I think it's certainly pissed off

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:48.679
<v Speaker 1>this local sports anchor, Jenna Shortel from very liberal Minnesota.

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Here we go.

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:54.040
<v Speaker 3>They veiled sexist show, revealing the actual truth of how

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:56.400
<v Speaker 3>he and his organization feel about women's sports.

0:27:57.040 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 1>It's not about caring about them. They think women's sports

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<v Speaker 1>chok Well, Jenna, I think it's not Clay Travis that

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:11.680
<v Speaker 1>started making a joke out of all of this. It's

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>it's the w n b A is allowing it. Right,

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 1>They're allowing this to be a joke. They're encouraging it.

0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Seems it's a whole circus. I call it the bravatization

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 1>of the w n b A. I don't think it's

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:38.720
<v Speaker 1>Clay Travis. I really don't anyway. Move over, Barack Obama.

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Zoran Kwame Mamdani abdul Raman Mohammad al Sayad has taken stage,

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 1>the center stage. He is the new Senate candidate from Michigan.

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 1>What is happening on the lefts of this country. I

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know. How did free Palestine become a litmus test

0:28:56.200 --> 0:29:00.680
<v Speaker 1>for the careening left of the Democrat Party. I'm watching it.

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:05.800
<v Speaker 1>It's unbelievable. Somebody brilliant but evil looped in all of

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 1>liberalism under the Palestinian flag. It's now the symbol of intersectionality.

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Right party implosion is guaranteed. Here's what the crazy lefties

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:21.880
<v Speaker 1>are selling to the normal lefties. We cannot be free

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:26.960
<v Speaker 1>until Palestine is free. We who's we? That's gays, that's

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 1>trans that's Muslim Muslim Americans. I don't think black people

0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 1>are down with this. I don't think this whole It's

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:37.240
<v Speaker 1>got to be free Palestine as a litmus test to

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 1>be a Democrat right two weeks after October seventh, stop

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 1>the genocide encampments take over elite university campuses. I don't

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 1>understand how that happens. How do you end old school

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 1>black white racial tension. I think this is the answer.

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 1>Send in so oh many crazies that misery finds company.

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 1>We're bonded together. Is the impending radical Islamization of America

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:14.440
<v Speaker 1>a real thing? Ben Shapiro's putting it out there like

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:16.800
<v Speaker 1>this has happened? Or is it the algorithm scaring the

0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:20.520
<v Speaker 1>shit out of you? I don't know. Have the majority

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 1>resident you know, US government hating American Muslims of dearborn

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Michigan taken over your algorithm or mine? Is that real?

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Is that designed to scare? I don't know? Should we

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>should you? If you are, you know, should you be

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:41.240
<v Speaker 1>shitting your pants? I can't tell if big tech is

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:45.240
<v Speaker 1>just fueling all this stuff, you know, how hateful it is,

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 1>how much of a threat there is to America, or

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:54.000
<v Speaker 1>if it's just you know, technology out of control. Does

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 1>anyone have a real feeling on that? I can't. I

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:04.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know. It's a question. It's the final arrow. Social

0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 1>media tech companies as we know award They reward hate, crazy, divisive,

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 1>violent commentary, and they're feeding it to us like crack MySpace.

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Did you hear about this? MySpace is relaunching algorithm free.

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:29.960
<v Speaker 1>It scrolls in order, is what they're saying. It doesn't

0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 1>just feed you sh It doesn't detect what you're afraid

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:36.960
<v Speaker 1>of and hit you with it over and over again

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 1>to make you more afraid. It just scrolls in order.

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:43.479
<v Speaker 1>Problem is, that's like asking someone to voluntarily quit heroin.

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean, Like, yeah, I know it's

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:49.480
<v Speaker 1>not good for me, but you know people don't do that.

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Problem is you can't turn away. That's why it works.

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 1>So where is elected leadership on this? I don't know.

0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't this have to go to Congress? Doesn't tech have

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:03.560
<v Speaker 1>to be We're all worried about, you know, superintelligence and AI,

0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 1>but the algorithm on social media is I think more poisonous.

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:12.800
<v Speaker 1>One is dangerous, the other's poisonous. Okay, we're going to

0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 1>talk about Amy Griffin.

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 3>Here.

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Has Amy Griffin issued NDAs to all of the key

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 1>players in this ordeal that she's in? And does it

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:30.280
<v Speaker 1>matter because NDAs don't stand up under subpoena? So a

0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:35.120
<v Speaker 1>few things are at the top of my mind. Real Claudia,

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:39.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean, I've texted with her. I

0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:45.320
<v Speaker 1>know who she is. She's playful, she's got a personality.

0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel badly for her at this point because

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:52.160
<v Speaker 1>she said it herself and Amy's put it in her

0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:55.719
<v Speaker 1>book and in her declarations that nothing happened to her.

0:32:56.520 --> 0:33:00.400
<v Speaker 1>She doesn't connect with Amy and nothing happened in middle school.

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 1>She was not abused. I don't understand why she doesn't.

0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 1>She won't, you know, engage with me or anyone. But

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you this, she will if she is subpoenad.

0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 1>I think she's a good law abiding citizen and she

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 1>will participate. And if the case goes forward, she absolutely

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 1>will be subpoena. I think Amy's friends, from what I understand,

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:33.720
<v Speaker 1>are telling her get out of this thing. You don't

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 1>want this to go forward. There is no win here.

0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 1>But how does it? What's the off ramp for Amie?

0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 1>You know? Can she has? She issued NDAs and compensated

0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 1>people for it. Apparently James in the book, if you

0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 1>read the tell James is the guy who, at twenty

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 1>years old or so, when she was studying in Europe,

0:33:58.240 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 1>or had a job in Europe for the summer that

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 1>this guy you know was there and he graped her

0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:09.680
<v Speaker 1>a date. Grape is the way she writes about it. There.

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I've heard from a source that he has an NDA

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:20.239
<v Speaker 1>and was likely paid for that this was a guy

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:24.319
<v Speaker 1>who was They remained friends after the grape at twenty

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:27.640
<v Speaker 1>years old. They remained friends for the next thirty almost

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:31.279
<v Speaker 1>thirty years of life. Family friends, family vacations together, the

0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:32.839
<v Speaker 1>whole thing. And then when she was writing the book,

0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:34.960
<v Speaker 1>She's like, wait a minute, I can't be friends with

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:38.839
<v Speaker 1>this person. You know, I can't overlook what happened here.

0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm not that much of a people pleaser. I got

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:42.440
<v Speaker 1>to get rid of this person in my life and

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 1>just cut them off. He had sent her an email

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:47.240
<v Speaker 1>that said, Hey, I'm going on vacation with the kids,

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 1>and you know everything about this particular area. Can you

0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 1>give me some advice? And she was like hm hm,

0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:54.440
<v Speaker 1>And she writes in the book, I stood up for

0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 1>myself finally, and I just said no, and I deleted

0:34:57.239 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 1>his email and never responded. I've texted this guy several times.

0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 1>He does not respond at all. The real person, But

0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 1>question is, did he sign an NDA. The coach, the

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:15.279
<v Speaker 1>volleyball coach who's a very central character in the book.

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 1>A source from Amy's Austin Middle School, her Boston Middle

0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 1>school class, whom I spoke with, confirms that she definitely

0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:26.920
<v Speaker 1>did says that she signed an NDA, which makes you

0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:30.880
<v Speaker 1>wonder did mister Mason in the book the teacher the

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:35.240
<v Speaker 1>ultimate alleged assailant here, the worst person that ever lived,

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 1>the person she alleges did such horrible, violent and graphic

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:43.359
<v Speaker 1>things to her when she was a child. Did that guy,

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 1>what is your reputation worth? Did he sign an NDA?

0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Did he take money for to disappear and not talk?

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:54.839
<v Speaker 1>Or apparently the guy lives in Amarilla and many people

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:58.959
<v Speaker 1>know his real name, me included. But I mean, what's

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:00.880
<v Speaker 1>it worth to you? Would you taken it? Would you

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:03.399
<v Speaker 1>take money? Would you take an NDA? Would you sign

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 1>an NDA and get paid? However many million? What's it

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:08.720
<v Speaker 1>worth for people to look at you in the grocery

0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 1>store and say, I mean, I don't know if I

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 1>don't think he did, but like what if he did?

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:17.320
<v Speaker 1>And that kind of wherever you go, it's not that

0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:21.520
<v Speaker 1>big a town. Our friend Katie and k C, who

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:24.399
<v Speaker 1>I noticed in the comments section is second ago. She's

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:30.280
<v Speaker 1>a top sleuth in the biz. She discussed the postcard issue.

0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:32.160
<v Speaker 1>I know this is a little old, but for me

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:37.239
<v Speaker 1>it's worth repeating because I haven't yet. It's pretty good.

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Jane Doe contends in her lawsuit that Amy coordinated a

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:47.279
<v Speaker 1>meeting in Palm Springs in twenty nineteen between the two

0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 1>of them. Totally random. Reaches out and says, yo, let's

0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:56.480
<v Speaker 1>get together, and Amy denies that she was ever in

0:36:56.600 --> 0:36:59.800
<v Speaker 1>the area in twenty nineteen twenty eighteen. She says, I

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 1>and haven't been there either of the years surrounding that.

0:37:04.040 --> 0:37:06.640
<v Speaker 1>But Jane Doe says, yes, they did meet, and at

0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:10.759
<v Speaker 1>the end of the meeting, Amy bought two postcards and

0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 1>suggested that the two of them mail each other postcards

0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 1>to stay in touch. Well, that's written about in the book, right,

0:37:21.440 --> 0:37:23.799
<v Speaker 1>But both gave each other the post guard with their

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:25.879
<v Speaker 1>addresses on it. It's kind of cute, like you would

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:28.800
<v Speaker 1>do with another kid at camp or something. And the

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:33.319
<v Speaker 1>post guard is a black and white postcard with their

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 1>addresses on it. The postcard is black and white. It's

0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:39.880
<v Speaker 1>taken in It's a picture of taken in nineteen sixty

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:44.759
<v Speaker 1>four by Gary Winnigram, and it's depicting kids playing on

0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:49.799
<v Speaker 1>a fence inside It's like in the Bronx in New York.

0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 1>In the tell the postcard that Amy anonymously receives includes

0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:59.920
<v Speaker 1>a quote attributed to Amy, you know circle the second grid,

0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:04.080
<v Speaker 1>But on the postcard it says Amy in the seventh grade.

0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:09.120
<v Speaker 1>The question about the postcard is in contention, right. The

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 1>stamp on the card indicates that it was postmarked in

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:18.359
<v Speaker 1>New York. And you know, either a piece of mail

0:38:18.400 --> 0:38:20.480
<v Speaker 1>that has a New York stamp on it was either

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:26.000
<v Speaker 1>processed in the area or sent from the area. And

0:38:26.400 --> 0:38:30.600
<v Speaker 1>what Katie and KC was able to do is find

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:34.759
<v Speaker 1>out that in twenty nineteen at the thirtieth Annual Palm

0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:38.439
<v Speaker 1>Springs Film Festival, it was showing a documentary there called

0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:43.719
<v Speaker 1>Gary Winnigrad All Things Are Photographable? Is that a coincidence? Right?

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:44.480
<v Speaker 5>Like?

0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Were they selling postcards in the area or did they

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:51.880
<v Speaker 1>put up free postcards in different cafes and restaurants to

0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 1>promote the screening for Gary Winnegran's you Know documentary. Katie

0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:01.560
<v Speaker 1>says she's willing to bet money that that is exactly

0:39:02.040 --> 0:39:06.200
<v Speaker 1>where Amy got her postcard. Pretty interesting. Also, there was

0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:09.799
<v Speaker 1>up there's Katie right there, her commenting her off ramp

0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:12.800
<v Speaker 1>is to try to get claims dismissed with the demuror

0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:16.200
<v Speaker 1>that's on the table. Otherwise it's discovery and then the

0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:20.960
<v Speaker 1>MSJA and that would be catastrophic. Yeah, no kidding, Right,

0:39:23.160 --> 0:39:25.799
<v Speaker 1>she's got it. What is the way to get out

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 1>of this? Where's the real offer? How do you say? Look,

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna settle this because I would just say, I

0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:35.880
<v Speaker 1>come to believe I know what happened to me, and

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't need to go and get into a courtroom

0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 1>to defend myself. And I think something happened to this

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:44.239
<v Speaker 1>nice person, Joe Lean too, And I'm going to give

0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:46.600
<v Speaker 1>her some money because I think I want her to

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:49.000
<v Speaker 1>find some happy And I'm also going to give money

0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:53.760
<v Speaker 1>to this you know, this Father's ranch where she worked

0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:57.919
<v Speaker 1>with children who are victims of you know, adult sa.

0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:00.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give money to that program because it's doing

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:04.160
<v Speaker 1>valuable work. And you know, just pay the right people

0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:08.359
<v Speaker 1>or give but never admit fault. You can a lot

0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:11.800
<v Speaker 1>of money can do that. And from what I understand,

0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:19.720
<v Speaker 1>her friends are encouraging her to do that. Hoh speaking

0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:24.040
<v Speaker 1>of friend if you've ever have you wondered where Sam

0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Lansky is the ghost writer for Amy's to tell We

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:35.320
<v Speaker 1>have located Sam. Early this morning Eastern time. Sam posted

0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:38.520
<v Speaker 1>this on his story. There he is with Lindsey vonn

0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:46.080
<v Speaker 1>in it looks like the Mediterranean. They're living a beautiful summer.

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Speaker 1>There's Sam Lansky. What's interesting is Amy Griffin is really

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:53.160
<v Speaker 1>good friends with Lindsay von So in her cabal of

0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:57.480
<v Speaker 1>a list friends is Lindsay von They're together at the

0:40:57.760 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 1>you know time one Amy lin Yvonne posted to my

0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:04.440
<v Speaker 1>best friend, Amy, You're the most amazing person what you've

0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:06.840
<v Speaker 1>been through. You are the face of courage. And this

0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:10.520
<v Speaker 1>is at the time one hundred. Amy Griffin was picked

0:41:10.560 --> 0:41:13.680
<v Speaker 1>for the Most Influential list and so she and Lindsay

0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 1>have been together and of course they went to the

0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 1>morning show premiere for Apple TV because she's super tight

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:28.000
<v Speaker 1>with Reese Witherspoon. You know, Lindsay and Amy were posing together.

0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:32.520
<v Speaker 1>They're super tight friends. So there's Sam Lansky. The question

0:41:32.640 --> 0:41:35.759
<v Speaker 1>is is Amy Griffin with them like I don't know?

0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Or is Sam now just like so enamored? And Amy

0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:45.800
<v Speaker 1>has a huge bank account and lots of fancy friends.

0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:48.680
<v Speaker 1>If you're Sam Lansky, you are with her until the end.

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:51.799
<v Speaker 1>But Sam, remember is still in the lawsuit. It's Jane

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Doe versus Amy Griffin. Sam Lansky and no longer Penguin

0:41:56.600 --> 0:42:01.759
<v Speaker 1>Publishing dial Press. They were dismissed the suit. And on

0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:04.399
<v Speaker 1>that note, I read a article a couple of days

0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 1>ago in the Wall Street Journal about the editor in

0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:12.960
<v Speaker 1>chief of dial Press, a very impressive woman named Whitney Frick.

0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:18.440
<v Speaker 1>She runs dial Press. She's badass, she's you know, she

0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:24.799
<v Speaker 1>just looks. She's great looking, she's intelligent, the glasses chic,

0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:30.640
<v Speaker 1>and very very successful. She runs a hell of an imprint.

0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:34.120
<v Speaker 1>She had a great rise in the business. She used

0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:36.600
<v Speaker 1>to you know, she worked at Scribner for years as

0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:38.920
<v Speaker 1>an editor on the rise, and then she made some

0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:43.719
<v Speaker 1>excellent picks. She picked Annapolitano's Hello Beautiful book was a

0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:48.960
<v Speaker 1>giant success. Then she picked Glennon Doyle's Untamed Right story

0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:51.680
<v Speaker 1>of Glennon Doyle going from a Christian mommy blogger to

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 1>the wife of Abby Wambach. Whitney Frick and her imprint

0:42:57.640 --> 0:42:59.759
<v Speaker 1>have been dismissed from the lawsuit, as you know, But

0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:04.800
<v Speaker 1>and she's been mostly silent she's not defending Amy, but

0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 1>in this Wall Street Journal article she says a few things, So,

0:43:10.760 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 1>like a book editor myself, let's grade her comments. First,

0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:21.120
<v Speaker 1>she's sort of passively aggressively presenting Amy as a victim

0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:24.759
<v Speaker 1>of the times. Right. She says, we live in a

0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 1>culture now more than ever, where any person can be

0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:31.920
<v Speaker 1>a keyboard warrior, and there's nothing more valuable online than

0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:36.799
<v Speaker 1>having a hot take, particularly takes against women. She says,

0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:40.000
<v Speaker 1>if you achieve a certain level of success and cultural influence,

0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:42.480
<v Speaker 1>there will be people who will want to make controversy

0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:47.320
<v Speaker 1>around it. That's a predictable, sort of lazy comment for

0:43:47.480 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 1>someone so intelligent and running such a big I think

0:43:51.680 --> 0:43:56.240
<v Speaker 1>that's obviously true sometimes. But in this case, some lives

0:43:56.320 --> 0:44:02.560
<v Speaker 1>have been definitely destroyed and a lawsuit has been filed

0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:05.920
<v Speaker 1>by a credible person, So I don't know. I give

0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:09.799
<v Speaker 1>that a c that comment only because sometimes it is true.

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Then she speaks on the justification for dial Press's dismissal

0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:17.520
<v Speaker 1>from the Jane Doe lawsuit. She says, we do not

0:44:17.680 --> 0:44:23.160
<v Speaker 1>assume responsibility for formal fact checking. That's the author's responsibility.

0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Book publishers are not investigators. I trust my authors. I

0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:30.640
<v Speaker 1>give her a bat plus for that comment. Fair enough.

0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:34.520
<v Speaker 1>They can't be the FBI too, right. Amy's got lawyers,

0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:37.759
<v Speaker 1>she's got fact checkers, she's writing her book. They are

0:44:37.840 --> 0:44:41.239
<v Speaker 1>there to amplify the story. So I'm with you on that.

0:44:42.320 --> 0:44:45.200
<v Speaker 1>On her role in all of this, she said, a

0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:49.239
<v Speaker 1>memoir is a narrative of the meaning an author has

0:44:49.360 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 1>made from their experiences, and the writer of the article

0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:56.960
<v Speaker 1>says she looked visibly frustrated by the line of questioning. Here,

0:44:58.320 --> 0:45:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Whitney says, when the author tells this is what happened

0:45:01.719 --> 0:45:05.400
<v Speaker 1>to me, I work to help them make sure that

0:45:05.560 --> 0:45:09.680
<v Speaker 1>the meaning they draw from those experiences is clear. So

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<v Speaker 1>not like the literal experiences, but the meaning they get

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<v Speaker 1>from it. It's kind of like the MDMA thing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like these are it's symbolism. It's what I feel in

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<v Speaker 1>all of this should it be taken literally. So here

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<v Speaker 1>she's kind of distancing herself from Amy in a subtle,

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<v Speaker 1>subtle as way as possible, and sort of emphasizing like

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<v Speaker 1>individual responsibility unless unless she coaxed, oh, coerced you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Amy in the editing, which she did not. Pretty good comment.

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<v Speaker 1>As for the scrutiny that the tell has received, Whitney

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<v Speaker 1>Frick says, there's the conversation out there, and then there

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<v Speaker 1>are the conversations that are small and happening with individual readers,

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<v Speaker 1>And those are the conversations I try to focus on. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say, when three men's lives have been

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<v Speaker 1>all but destroyed, perhaps compensated for effectively ruined because of

0:46:10.200 --> 0:46:15.359
<v Speaker 1>unsubstantiated or corroborated accusations, you got to be a little

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<v Speaker 1>more concerned with the ramifications of the book, if not liable. Right,

0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:24.719
<v Speaker 1>her entire career is miss Frick, by the way, her

0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:29.719
<v Speaker 1>entire career is harnessing the awakenings and the transformations you know,

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<v Speaker 1>through challenging times of the female experience. That's that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>what she's here for. So but if lives have been affected,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it, You know, it matters more. There are

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<v Speaker 1>real consequences here, and that's what you know I've said

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<v Speaker 1>all along is my only interest in this is that

0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:55.960
<v Speaker 1>one lives have been affected in a real way. And

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<v Speaker 1>I am the supporter of a and this loved one

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<v Speaker 1>who has been through what was written about here in

0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:13.200
<v Speaker 1>a terrible way. And you know that that's that's deeply

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<v Speaker 1>personal and also psychedelic assisted therapy can help a lot

0:47:18.280 --> 0:47:20.840
<v Speaker 1>of people, but it really has to be treated carefully.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't it's fragile to become legal in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a there's a fragility around it that can't be

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<v Speaker 1>tampered with.

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<v Speaker 4>Here.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't just you know this, This, I think is

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<v Speaker 1>setting it back in the literati. All the people that

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<v Speaker 1>promoted the book still silent, haven't said a word, haven't

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<v Speaker 1>come forward, none of the big interviewers. I gather from

0:47:50.680 --> 0:47:53.000
<v Speaker 1>sources in the middle that many are advising Amy to

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<v Speaker 1>exit the deal, like I said, to Settle, to get

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<v Speaker 1>out of this. They're worried that it's gone too far.

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<v Speaker 1>And at this point it's like, as you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you know me, Lance Armstrong syndrome, how do you get

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<v Speaker 1>out of this? How do you get out of it?

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<v Speaker 1>And what I said before was all they can come

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<v Speaker 1>up with. I think you have to say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's now become a side show. I want to give

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of money to those who have been who

0:48:19.960 --> 0:48:24.400
<v Speaker 1>are victims like me, insist that it's still you and

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<v Speaker 1>also include Joe Lene. Try to bridge a gap here

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<v Speaker 1>and try to create some type of it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>cost you try to create an alliance and it might

0:48:34.560 --> 0:48:37.440
<v Speaker 1>cost you more than you wanted to. But I think there,

0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:40.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe that will help and to give to

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<v Speaker 1>those who are not known around the country to causes

0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:48.640
<v Speaker 1>like that and just say that's the bigger issue here.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want to be a side show that might

0:48:50.920 --> 0:48:54.640
<v Speaker 1>get her out. But again, sort of like the like Liveliest,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll never get your answer right and if that's important

0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:01.879
<v Speaker 1>to you then but again that's the privilege of money

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<v Speaker 1>right there. I think, all right, Uh, that's it for

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<v Speaker 1>us today. Gotta get out on a picnic, Gotta get

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<v Speaker 1>out and remind me to put my sun's screen on. Jesus,

0:49:12.920 --> 0:49:15.800
<v Speaker 1>my face is like a tomato, like a like a

0:49:16.040 --> 0:49:20.279
<v Speaker 1>boiled lobster. Anyway, hit subscribe, hit notification bell, Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>being with us, Big Harry, thank you, my friend, your

0:49:23.320 --> 0:49:25.719
<v Speaker 1>beautiful guy. And that's it for us. We'll see you

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<v Speaker 1>on whimesday. You're doing me right, that's the same. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like another compliment.

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<v Speaker 3>Jarsey and