WEBVTT - From the Chandelier 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:05.440 I mean some people would say it was Beyonce's mus 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:10.959 while she was writing Lemonade. I mean I was Guttenberg's 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:21.360 mus when he invented the printing pass. It's so unusual 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:24.320 that you've experienced something in pop culture that I haven't, 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:27.639 and something like consistently you have told me is that 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:30.800 I needed to watch Obsessed, starring Beyonce nals Carter. I 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:33.879 have said it, and which Beyonce kills a woman who 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:37.240 is trying to steal her husband um with a chandelier 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:41.800 from a Fandilier chandelier. And so Fran I finally watched 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:45.960 Obsessed last night. My god, Yes, and we're going to 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:49.559 talk about Obsessed and also maybe like some other psycho 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:54.920 sexual thrillers like yeah, like a fatal Attraction, basic instinct 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:58.760 based on the girl, the invention of the psycho herod 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:03.120 and woman exactly exactly, because this is like a virgin 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:06.399 where we give yesterday's pop culture today's takes. I'm ros 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:09.520 Damo and I'm Fran Toronto, and by the end of 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:12.280 this episode I will have killed Fran with a chandelier. Well, 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:15.360 I mean that's kind of most episodes, to be honest, 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:29.520 because I'm what the Phantom of the Opera, Franny, What 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:33.560 did you do this weekend? So I saw our boys 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:39.480 in Muna perform Silk Chiffon to the Staples Stadium which 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:41.920 is now known as the Crypto dot Com Stadium, but 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:44.280 like it was a stadium, which is the most important 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:48.600 part of the Crypto dot Com Stadium. That's amazing, Yeah 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:52.280 it is. I was so happy to see that song 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:57.400 performed such a huge audience. Like I'm so proud of 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:00.400 Muna and everything they've done so far. And that's as 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:03.760 you know, we just look love it so hard, sick 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:07.880 cheff on and you were in the music video speaking 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:11.840 so truly a full circle moment. And let me tell you, 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:18.400 speaking of uncle hat you have you seen Casey musgraveson 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:23.160 concert before? Wouldn't care to to be honest, Okay, so 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:28.040 I may change your opinion on that. You won't. Okay, 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:31.760 love that love love love. How malleable you are. This 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:33.960 is not is not a yes and to day this 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:36.720 is a note, but day and I accept that. I 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:41.200 accept you where you are. Um, Casey is she's a 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:44.200 very chill performer. She's a chill girl, she's a stoner. 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.840 She doesn't I was boring. No, no, no, that's not 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:50.040 what I'm trying to say. I'm saying that you wouldn't 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:53.160 expect her to pull out all the stops for a 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:57.560 stadium tour, like you think she might just do it straight. However, 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:02.400 she did pull out seven all stops um and I 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:08.560 will also say Casey's voice is perfection Crystalline performed live, 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:12.760 she sounds exactly like the recording she is like. I 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:15.840 think her voice is very simple. I don't mean simple 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:17.840 as a dig I mean that she is very much 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:21.239 like a country star and that she's not like wailing 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:24.000 on her songs. It's like a very heart felt, like 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:27.760 clear tone. It's very pure, and so I would imagine 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:32.639 that that that that translates really well to live performance. Yeah, 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:35.600 it did, because she's not pulling in Adena Manzell and 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:39.880 doing something in the booth that she can't do on stage. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.200 that's exactly a t But she was amazing, and so 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:44.360 I had just have to describe a few moments for you. 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:46.800 First of all, hit me. Halfway through she goes, oh, yeah, 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:50.720 like we're gonna do casey Oki and I have a 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:52.640 list of four songs, and one of you can pick 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:55.160 the song that we're going to do a karaoke two together, 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:57.480 which I thought was so cute. And she pulls out 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:01.560 this scroll and it's like nine to five by Dolly Parton, 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:06.880 killing Me Softly, No Scrubs and Dreams by Fleetwood Mac, 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:10.040 which is like an amazing group of songs. Which one 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:12.839 would you have picked? By the way, Uh, if we're 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:17.559 talking like a traditional karaoke scenario, I'm probably going with 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:22.480 no Scrubs, Okay, Okay, I would have picked no Scrubs 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:24.760 or ninety five. I think everyone around me was like, 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:29.440 if you and I were doing karaoke together as a pair, 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:32.560 we would do nine to five. Okay, that is t 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:36.440 for sure. She finds a girl in the front who 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:38.880 it's like her birthday person. You can't you can't assume 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:42.120 this person's gender. I actually can. I this was definitely 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:45.279 this woman because it was her birthday, and it was 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.080 like it felt like a you know, a bachelorette party 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:49.479 kind of vibe. And she's like, this girl is maybe 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:54.440 like bachelor X. You don't right, right, right, right, of course, 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:58.960 of course, and so this girl's maybe like sixteen seventeen okay, 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:01.840 And Casey really says to her like, don't sunk this up. 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:05.080 Like this is like you're picking the song that we 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:07.279 all want to hear. It's a lot of pressure. It 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:12.960 is actually the girl picks killing me softly. Casey, who 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:16.160 is definitely stoned, has already talked about being on xan 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:19.000 X and did a shot of tequila on stage, is 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:22.000 like totally over the whole experience in a in a 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:24.480 good way, like a very like chill girl way. And 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:26.760 she looks at the girl whose birthday it is, and 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:31.480 she goes, I'm sorry, you picked wrong, and we're gonna 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:35.040 do nine. But well, it's kind of case it's fault 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:38.280 for putting that on the list. Yeah, it is actually 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.520 her fault. And and and she knew the song that 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:43.560 she wanted to do. And it's iconic though to crush 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:45.960 this girl's birthday. You know, I wonder if that girl 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:52.039 would killed herself. She did it on the right person. No, 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.880 don't kill yourself, You're so sexy. She threw this, She 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:56.800 threw the scroll to her, so like, I think that 0:05:56.880 --> 0:06:00.960 was like her consolation prize. But Rose, there's a moment 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:03.520 at the end of this concert where I thought of you. 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:06.120 I wish I had gotten it on video. I I 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:09.919 felt your energy so clearly at that moment. Okay, what 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:13.160 read is this gonna be? No, it's not. It's a compliment. 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:16.680 Casey ended with Gracia Slavita, which is like this kind 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:21.719 of like activist folk song from I want to say, well, 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.560 this song is kind of a bummer, and it's also 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:26.760 not a song that I really would have wanted her 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:29.279 to do at our concert, And I was like, why 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:31.560 is she doing this song? And towards the end of 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:34.600 the song, the curtains open and there's this big staircase 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:38.200 that she kind of ascends, and there's like big lights 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:42.800 behind her. It's this very anthemic, kind of fiery, dramatic moment, 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:45.880 and she goes to the top of the staircase and 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:47.960 at the end of this song, there's this really kind 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:51.279 of spooky voice distortion that happens. I kind of wish 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:53.360 she did it more on that album, to be honest, 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:56.720 but it's a very big note to end on, and 0:06:57.040 --> 0:07:00.479 Casey at the top of the staircase, looks out to 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:05.160 the audience belt the last note of this song and 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:13.560 falls back perfectly and then disappears like in Black Fucking Swan. 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:20.360 It was. It was literally exactly black Swan. It was. 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:25.280 It was such a gag. It was high drag. I 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:28.560 was living. I I literally could not have had more 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:31.760 fun at this concert. And to be totally honest, I 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:36.040 kind of had lower expectations because this album was not 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:38.440 my favorite I did. What did you think of the 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:41.880 album star Crossed? Um? It was fine? You know, I 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:44.880 enjoyed it. It like it grew on me with time, 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:48.720 but it's not something I'm ever like, Oh, I gotta 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:52.040 listen to star Crossed. Yeah, I feel the same way. 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:55.680 I really like hookup scene and there as a Light. 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:57.960 I think those are stand up, but like, overall, I 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.640 felt like the whole album need had like a punch 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:03.360 up on the production, and I thought that I thought them. 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:08.120 The film was also kind of not whack, but just 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:11.200 like not enough. What the Virgins don't know is we 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:16.280 watched the first video from that film together and we're like, oh, 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:19.280 that was good, And then we watched Chloe Bailey's video 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:23.640 for Mercy and we were like, but I guess what 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:26.200 I'm trying to get at is the album was extremely 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:30.720 powerful to hear in person because Casey did still put 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:33.240 so much emotion into it, and also I felt like 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:36.400 her lyrics were really championed and her as a songwriter 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:39.439 is always going to be strong even if the production 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:42.920 isn't always there. Um. But yeah, anyways, I had a ball. 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:45.960 I wish you were there. You know, not much to 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:48.120 talk about this week. I mean, like drag Race was 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:52.760 kind of fine, the salt Like, I thought the drag 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:57.960 Race challenge was funny, but then the twist of the 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:02.160 soap opera being about farting. I don't like a fart joke. 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:05.800 I no, I don't like a fart joke. Wow, so 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:10.640 you hate fun I don't hate fun I like smarter. No, 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.120 I think a fart joke is funny the first couple 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:15.920 of times, but when it goes on for that long, 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:19.040 I guess by the end it did swing background being 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:23.160 funny again. I do forget sometimes that Rue has that 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:27.400 sense of humor though. Yeah, Ru, Rue like stuff that's 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:32.600 very simple, like very bare bones, like fart slapstick humor. 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:34.680 And I don't know, I felt like this is a 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:37.000 moment where like Rue and whoever is writing this ship 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:40.000 like really thrived, Like I love the challenge. You think 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:42.719 Rue wrote the script for the Delta. Yeah? Yeah, Ru 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:47.640 Rue in his office with with his quill and his ink. Well, um, yeah, 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:50.360 I I'm sure you were extremely mad that no one 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:53.960 was eliminated. I think that it's a little bit of ause, 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:55.719 but I'm hoping that means next week there will be 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:59.320 a quadruple elimination. Yeah right, Um, I feel like it 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:01.439 maybe when it comes down to the math, it was 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:03.520 always supposed to happen this way, Like there was always 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:05.640 supposed to be an episode where no one was eliminated 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:10.240 because there's so many episodes now for these seasons. Um, 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:14.880 I feel like it was deserved. I thought everyone killed 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:18.720 that runway shockingly. I thought that everyone did had a 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:23.000 passing grade on this sketch itself. Um, But like when 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:28.160 it comes down to like I don't know, like overall performance, 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:32.640 Like I mean Camden's runway where she fell and revealed 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:37.880 this year to completely unexpected, But like why was she 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:41.360 kicking so often? Was that a Freddie Mercury thing? Did 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:43.760 he kick a lot? I mean he's he was kind 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:47.240 of legging? Where is that maybe like her only move? Yeah, 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.760 I will say the Real House as of Salt Lake 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:54.160 finale was totally underwheling that season is still on. Well, yeah, 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:56.280 it's it's it felt like this season has been like 0:10:56.320 --> 0:11:00.400 a thousand years um. But the most important takeaway from 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:03.600 the experience of watching The Real House Lives finale Rose 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:08.680 is that the Chichi Trainers we are eaten because in 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:12.439 a commercial for The Real House as Assault, like the finale, 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:15.720 we have now learned that Megan Trainer is hosting a 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:20.079 Peacock original of a kid's version of Top Chef called 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:23.240 Top Chef Family Style. I thought that we're going to 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:27.120 say something like Megan Trainer was hosting the reunion all 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:33.560 of Nikki hosting Potomac, or like Megan Trainer was joining 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:36.240 The House Lives a Salt Lake City, which, like I 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:39.840 actually would believe that would totally watch. I would believe that, 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.000 like she has a house there and that that's the 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:45.440 point her career is at. Can you imagine how underwhelming 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:49.160 it would be to watch her host a reunion? Literally 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:51.440 any I don't know that I've ever actually heard her speak, 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:56.680 so I she probably sounds like Julia Fox. So in 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:58.840 the finale, in the like the previous they showed that 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:01.800 Jenny is still the reunion, which I didn't realize. I 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:03.880 thought that she was the one who got fired, right, 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:06.280 she was the one that got fired and then Mary 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:10.640 also left, and I mean Jen is literally going to 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:13.679 be in jail by the time that the next season 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:17.079 is filmed, which means we'rely we're losing three housewives from 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:21.199 this franchise. I think maybe we should just lose the franchise. Um, 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:23.679 you wouldn't say that if you actually watched it. It is. 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:26.920 It is definitely a top tier franchise, if not my 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:29.079 favorite right now, Like, I think I even enjoyed it 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:31.760 more than I enjoyed this last season of Beverly Hills. 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:48.439 That's sacrilege. Are you happy to be in Belies? It 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:51.480 is so rare that there's something in pop culture that 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:54.840 you have experience that I never have. Yeah, Actually, this 0:12:55.000 --> 0:13:00.040 is a nice little turning of the tables. Um. I 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.000 for years people have been telling me that I needed 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:04.120 to watch Obsessed, and I don't know why I never did. 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:06.880 And I'm honestly shocked that I didn't see it when 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:11.800 it came out because two thousand nine, like, what, you know, 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:14.040 what was I doing? Yeah? What were you doing? I 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.280 was graduating. I was doing a lot of drugs action, 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:20.200 so that that actually makes a lot of sense. It was, 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.640 if I remember correctly, like a box office hit. It is, 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:27.000 I think, Um, it's the only film. It's only feature 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:32.120 film that Parkwood Productions, which is Beyonce's production company UM produced, 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:35.760 other than Cadillac Records and Black Is Gang, which isn't Beyonce. 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:39.640 Beyonce Knowles is listed as an executive producer. Well, I 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:42.760 noticed when I watched the movie last night. Yes, today 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:45.160 we were talking about Obsessed to the two thousand nine 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:49.760 films starring Beyonce Elba, Ali Larder, and we'll get into, 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:51.840 you know, the thick of it, maybe a slightly broader 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:56.800 conversation about this trope of the murderous scorned woman, a 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.719 trope that Rose dam You did in fact invent and 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:03.439 in herself. Well, if like me, you've never seen the 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:10.240 film film Obsessed, um, here's a quick recap. Beyonce is 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:15.480 married to Idris Elba. Her name uh in a in 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:18.880 a in a turn that made me feel absolutely psychotic. 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:23.680 Her character's name is Sharon, which is just not realistic 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:26.800 at all. For someone who looks like Beyonce to be 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:30.200 named Sharon. It would just it simply would would never happen. 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.280 There there's so many things I kept waiting for a 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:35.160 twist that like she had a secret identity. Yeah, if if, 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:37.880 if there was a supernatural twist, I could suspend my belief. 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:40.080 But I draw the line at someone who looks like 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:43.840 Beyonce named Sharon. So Beyonce is married to Idris Elba. 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.840 She actually used to be his assistant at his law firm, 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:50.000 and they have since fallen in love, gotten married, had 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:53.120 a child a child who will become important to the 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:58.000 plot later. Um and Idris um is you know, working 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:01.360 in the city and he there's a new temp but 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:05.440 his office, played by Ali Larder of Heroes and legally 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:09.320 blonde fame and for at the time, Ali was I'd 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:11.040 never heard of her before, but she was kind of 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:14.480 everywhere around she was. She was definitely moving and shaken 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:19.040 around this time because because specifically Heroes Um because Heroes 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:22.360 was like such a big cultural moment. So Ali Larder 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:28.360 starts temping at Idris's law firm and becomes obsessed with 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:34.880 him and starts like manufacturing run ins between the two 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:39.560 of them, and increasingly like you see Adris be like, oh, 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:42.080 this is kind of weird. Should I say something to 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:44.560 my wife? And then he doesn't because he thinks saying 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:47.920 something will just like make it into something it's not 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:51.880 until eventually it comes out ahead at the company Christmas party, 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:55.040 where Ali Larder like throws it back at him the 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:57.880 kind in the restroom if you can't see me, Like 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:01.640 it's kind of a movement. It's like gazelle like kind 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:04.160 of like white girl dance. That's happening. And so now 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:07.520 Adris knows that Ali Larder wants him, but he like 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:12.040 again weirdly like doesn't I This was one thing that 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:13.880 was so confusing to me was that like he had 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:18.360 many chances to say, like go to HR or be 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:21.960 like hey, this woman is like harassing me, like she's 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:25.400 attempt get rid of her. And so Ali Larder, it 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:28.680 becomes clear like his manufactured this relationship between the two 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:31.600 of them and does crazy things like she shows up 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:36.080 in his car with only underwear on, she leaves the 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:40.000 company because to be with him, because like they can't 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:43.280 have a relationship. And then she shows up his business 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:46.960 trip drugs him and I forgot that, drugs him and 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:50.840 sexually assaults him. Um, I forgot about that. And then 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:54.560 when he like really like tells her like you're crazy. 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:57.320 This isn't happening. She o d s in his bed 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:00.640 and is taken to the hospital, where like a detective 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:05.320 starts an investigation. Beyond well, Sharon finds out about it, Um, 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.880 and they all like kind of quickly go from like 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:11.800 what like what did he do to this girl, like 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:15.080 you know, taking it as the way it looks, to like, oh, 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:18.439 I guess she is actually crazy. Because Ali Larder, like 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:21.400 after getting out of the hospital and like going with 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:24.680 her sister, Um comes to their house one night after 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:29.280 Beyonce has forgiven Adris Elba, and they think that she 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:33.000 has stolen Beyonce's child because the child is missing, and 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:35.919 then it turns out she like put him in a car. 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:39.920 So then it all comes to a head when Ali 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:43.160 Larder shows up at the house and Beyonce has forgotten 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:46.560 to put in the security code, which come on girl. 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:50.399 Actually this morning, coming into the studio, the security alarm 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:54.160 went off, and I found myself thinking like if only 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:57.800 this had happened in Beyonce's home. Of course, Um, so 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:00.960 Beyonce and Ali Larder have a fight to death, which 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:03.640 is like the set piece of the film and which 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:06.640 I discovered last night upon doing some research. It took 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:09.760 them a week to film it, no way, and then 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:14.199 Beyonce gets Ali Larder. In the end, Sharon wins and 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:17.960 Ali Larder dies, and then Beyonce and DRI's elbow like 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:21.359 hug and make up at the end where Okay, there's 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:23.520 never really so that is that is the plot of 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:27.120 the movie. Essentially, my let me let me say this. 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:31.160 I was obsessed. I think it's the best movie ever made. Okay, amazing. 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:33.199 I was going to ask because obviously you and I 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:36.600 had the exact same first impression, which was why is 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:38.560 her name Sharon? But why is her name? Your second 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:41.280 impression was like what was the second was? This is incredible? 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:43.439 I loved it. I had so much fun watching it. 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:47.920 But I was also very confused because I wasn't confused 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:49.960 by anything that happened. I was confused by like the 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:53.000 way people reacted to things. And I understand that these 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:55.240 things needed to happen for the plot of this film, 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:58.080 but like, if you take that away, it makes no 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:02.080 sense that Drew's elbow wasn't like, um, this woman is 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:06.119 like harassing me, she needs to go um, and you 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:11.119 do like he even if he didn't cheat with this woman, 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:15.520 he had so many options to like do the right thing, 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:18.879 tell the truth, be like this is crazy, Um, you 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.040 need to stop this, tell his wife what was going on? 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:24.440 And so and by the end of the movie, even 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:27.520 though they have survived and this woman hasn't gotten what 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:30.440 she wanted, which like she didn't get Adris Elba or 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:34.560 you know, the baby, Sharon has come out on top. 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:39.600 Like how does Beyonce go back to him at the 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:44.040 end because he has created a situation in which she 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:47.560 had to kill a woman in her own home and 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:51.399 be scarred by that forever. So like, how do you, like, 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:54.760 how do you go back to like getting fro you 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:58.280 with that person? I like what I don't think that 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:00.480 if there was an obsessed to I think it would 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:04.200 be about their divorce. Okay, so you're you're I'm picking 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:05.960 up on some of the things you're reacting to, And 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:07.879 I think that it should be said that this movie 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:10.119 did pretty good in the box office, but it was 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:13.600 a critical flop obviously, and a lot of things yeah 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:16.080 I know, yeah exactly, and a lot of the things 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:18.520 that people were talking about. We're just what you're naming, 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:21.679 is that the kind of emotional and relational steaks of 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:26.399 these three characters are a bit off, and because it is, 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:29.639 you know, so such a kind of carbon copy of 0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:32.359 movies we've seen before, they were like, well, this is 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:36.840 like a lower stakes, moralistic kind of version of well 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:39.800 those films. Yeah. I think like some of the criticism 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:43.160 and the little bit of research I did is that 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:46.920 at the time, people were like, this is bad because 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:49.760 we don't understand why these people are doing the things 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:52.720 that they're doing. Like they never explain why Ali Lard 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:55.600 are so obsessed with but other than like he's hot 0:20:56.600 --> 0:21:00.720 because they never have sex, they even yeah, if this 0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:04.040 was no, they don't well she I mean she assaults him, right, 0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:07.120 I mean, if this was like a Hitchcock film, which 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:09.480 like there is some kind of like Hitchcock e and 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:12.360 thing going on here, you know, we would find out 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:15.720 Ali Larter's tragic backstory where she had been like assaulted 0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:18.720 as a child or something. That's a very trophy thing 0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:21.520 with these movies, like you find out why the crazy 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:26.000 woman is crazy, um, and in this there's no explanation 0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:29.200 of it. And something else to me that stuck out 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:34.199 was that Idris is never really tempted like his like 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:37.600 I mean, besides like he he looks at her legs, 0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:41.119 you know, when they first meet, he notices that she's hot, 0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:43.520 Like he thinks she's hot enough to to lie to 0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:46.879 his wife about it, exactly, asks him like if she 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:48.800 is your new assistant attractive? And he's like, no, is 0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:51.560 your ugly? Yeah? Yeah exactly, yeah yeah, And so I 0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:55.040 think that that it's like it kind of renders Idris 0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:57.119 to be renders all three of them to be like 0:21:57.320 --> 0:22:02.640 very uncomplicated characters. Like I think the film, and I think, honestly, 0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:06.480 because it was done by Parkwood Productions and because Beyonce 0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:09.160 was maybe over this, it would make sense to me 0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:13.119 that these characters would kind of champion fidelity instead of 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:16.520 like trying to nuance our challenge. Well, because Idris even 0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:20.000 says once he and Beyonce have reconciled and like they 0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:22.639 go to dinner on his birthday, he asks her if 0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:25.160 she wants a divorce and she says, we don't get 0:22:25.160 --> 0:22:29.200 divorces in my family exact, and that, oh my god, 0:22:29.240 --> 0:22:32.400 that is such a like a kind of which it's 0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:36.240 a microcosm of, to be honest, Beyonce culture, like Beyonce 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:40.120 is like we all saw Lemonade. We all well there 0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:43.200 is a direct line from obsessed to lemonate. We've seen 0:22:43.400 --> 0:22:46.160 the live performance of resentment in the wedding dress. Okay, 0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:49.960 we know that fidelity is something that Beyonce champions in 0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:52.760 kind of almost old school way. Yeah, I mean, well 0:22:52.800 --> 0:22:55.600 it seems kind of faith based. Yeah, and obviously it 0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:57.840 has to do with like blackness, that has to do 0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:00.760 with like ways you grow up religious. Um, but like 0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:05.119 it has I think to me, it makes total sense 0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:07.600 that Idris would never not once cheat, you know what 0:23:07.640 --> 0:23:09.960 I mean. But it also makes it kind of boring, 0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:12.840 makes him boring, It makes movie a little boring. Well, 0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:15.760 there's also this like missed opportunity and like I'm not 0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:19.199 saying that race should have played a bigger part in 0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:22.840 this film, but like when Ali Larder is like using 0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:27.520 the fact that she could get him in trouble by 0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:30.919 the way that things look, you know, to manipulate him, 0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:34.880 Like it goes kind of unsaid this dynamic between them 0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:36.240 that he is a black man and she is a 0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:39.800