WEBVTT - Written by… Julia DeVillers 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:16.759 Thank you so much everybody for joining us on this 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:19.880 par Copper episode, and we've got a very special one 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:22.759 today for a number of reasons. One because well, we 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:25.479 already watched Read and Weep and we talked about Reading 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:27.720 and Weep, but also because we're meeting something that is 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:31.080 somewhat of a rarity in the world, a friend of Sabrina's. 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:35.360 I'm kidding, I love you so much. 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:40.400 I had to. 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:44.280 I had to do it, not only a friend of Sabrina's, 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:46.920 but somebody who has worked with Sabrina on a pretty 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:50.080 cool project which we're going to get into. I'm not 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:51.199 going to hold up anymore. 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:55.639 You know, I love you Sabrina again. You please help us. 0:00:55.680 --> 0:01:02.960 Welcome author Julia de Villers. Hi, Julia, I've heard so 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:07.200 much about you. Sabrina talks about you glowingly and Tru 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:09.680 said you had such a wonderful time working together. And 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:12.480 we're going to get into all of that, of course, yes, 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:15.600 but we have to start with well why, I mean, 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:16.920 you're here for a number of reasons. 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:18.480 But we watched Read It and Weep? 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:20.759 Why, Well, we did, and we love we liked Read 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:24.399 It and Weep a lot, and we have several questions, 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:25.880 and by that I mean a whole bunch of questions 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:30.479 about the project and just curiously, how did the entire 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:31.959 thing come to fruition? 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:32.880 Where did this come from? 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:36.360 So the short answer is, I guess read it and 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:38.959 we've actually came from my brain, my imagination, which is 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:44.600 kind of wild. One moment, you're, you know, making up 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:46.680 an alter ego. The next minute, I guess it comes 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:48.680 on the screen. So read it and weep was such 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:51.400 a great experience. I wrote the book. It was based 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:55.160 on how my private personal journal became a bestseller, and 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:58.480 it was kind of a wish fulfillment of what I 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:00.640 would have wanted to happen when I was a teenager. 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:02.640 I loved books, and I thought, wouldn't it be cool 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:05.840 if I became a best selling author? Where's the you know, 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:08.480 where's the drama in that? So and Jamie is the 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:12.359 most like me of any character that I've written. And 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:15.720 the spoiler alert, the book actually ends with the main 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:20.480 character getting a movie deal. Oh okay, So it turns 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:22.440 out to be a lot like real life. It's almost 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:25.480 like I'm manifested in a book. So let your listeners, 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:28.560 anyone who wants to write a book use that as 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:29.880 something to inspire them. 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:32.160 Yeah, I'll say so. 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:35.239 When the book came out, somebody at Disney was scanning 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:38.600 the shelves at Barnes and Noble. She pulled it out 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:41.040 and she said, I see this as a d com. 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:46.320 Ah, that's just that's great advice. And when I leave here, 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:48.000 I'm going to write a book where at the end 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:49.720 I win the lottery, which will be great. So we 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:51.760 can we can get that manifested in the world, which 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:55.240 will be fun. Now, were you familiar with the world 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:58.000 of dcom? Was this something that you were excited about? 0:02:58.040 --> 0:02:59.679 Did you know anything about it? Where you were you 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:02.280 ware wry about going into the world? How did that feel? 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:05.720 Just pure excitement? I had little kids? 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:08.040 Yeah. How old was Quinn at this time? She has 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:08.960 a daughter named Quinn? 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:12.320 How old was she Quinn when we went to the set, 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:15.200 which I think I've got some good stories for you about. 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:20.360 Quinn was ten when that was filming, or ten and 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:22.359 my son Jack was too little to come to the 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:27.760 set and he's you know, forever bidder. So we'll put 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:29.520 in another movie and get him on there. 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.840 But so would they d calm watchers like were you 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:36.640 seen d com? You were in the mom World of 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:40.280 Disney Channel just on your screen twenty four to seven. 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:43.920 Then my favorite was Stuck in the Suburbs, which stars 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:46.200 Danielle Pana Baker. 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:51.160 Does so okay, So then you get contacted by the 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:54.560 channel at how involved were you able to be just 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:58.600 alone in the castine process? Were you able to come 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:01.680 into any castine reads or were they putting anyone's name 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:04.920 in front of you at all? For opinions, I think. 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:07.120 This one might have gone a little differently because they 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:11.080 wanted to hurry into production, so they green lit this 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:15.480 movie really fast because Danielle and kay Pana Baker had availability, 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:18.960 I believe. So when they called me, they said, we 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:23.680 have the two stars. It's up to you say yes 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:24.039 or no. 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:27.960 So the power that is very cool they gave you 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:29.560 that that's pretty awesome. 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:33.440 As a writer, I wanted to be low maintenance. You know, 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:36.280 you don't want the writers hovering or you know, getting 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.320 becoming an obstacle in the process. So I was thrilled 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:41.600 that I even knew who was starring in it. Never 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:44.120 thought i'd hear from them again until the movie came 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:45.720 on the air. But that wasn't the nic. 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:49.279 It's also I mean, that's one of the things we 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:52.920 loved about the movie was you couldn't have done better 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:58.000 casting where it's your older sister playing the idealized version 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:01.880 of yourself. There's some things so kind of wonderful about that. 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:04.920 I mean, forget about the fact. So Danielle. I've met 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:08.120 Danielle and she's wonderful and as an actress she's phenomenal. 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:11.279 But Kay killed it in this movie. 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:14.520 Uh, and we've seen her in a couple now and 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.760 she is really really talented. 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:19.280 Were you was this kind of like just a home 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:21.560 run for you? Casting wise? Home run? 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:25.520 It was amazing, from Kate and Danielle to the zach 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:31.920 Efron look alike. Oh man, I think who was still 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:33.880 a friend of mine. He still comes to my book signings, 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:34.400 believe it or not. 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:35.920 Oh gosh, so sweet. 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:38.800 Allison Skagliotti played the meanest, mean role but was the 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:41.159 nicest person. But I have to tell you that I 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:43.680 think you all owe me a thank you because if 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:47.320 it wasn't for me, not really, Jason Dolly wouldn't be 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:53.520 Oh Jason, Sir, Jason, Jason. 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:56.279 Was this his first Disney thing? 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:01.520 Jason Dolly's very first is the Chapel role, and I 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:03.919 believe it or not, he wasn't the one originally cast 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:07.240 for it. He was, I believe, the backup plan. And 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:08.160 he might have told you. 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:13.480 This, but he did. He did tell us this, Yes, And. 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.920 What was really interesting was the other actor they had 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:19.080 picked to play Connor ended up acting in other things. 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:22.320 And he looks nothing like Jason. He has dark hair, 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:25.719 and he started Jason is the epitome of who I 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:28.440 had in mind when I wrote the character of Connor. 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:29.559 Wow. 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:31.320 Well, that's one of the things I wanted to ask 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:33.040 you about because you know, a lot of times you 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:36.880 talk to writers, especially television writers or film writers, and 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.320 they'll write with an actor or actress in mind. So 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:43.719 when you're writing a novel, the characters obviously created in 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:46.040 your head. You're the only one in the world who 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:49.640 actually knows what this character looks like. How close did 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:51.479 they get? I mean, you said Jason was kind of 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:53.680 right on the button. How close were the rest of 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:55.520 them for the cast? Was it? Did you walk in 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:57.880 and go, oh, there they are, That's that's who was 0:06:57.920 --> 0:06:58.520 in my head. 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:03.200 Yes and no, So Kay absolutely, because I have to say, 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:06.520 Kay is the epitome of a cooler version of what 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:09.279 I looked like at that age. So I walked in 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:11.840 and I thought, okay, was a mini meme, which is 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:15.360 kind of how I wrote this first character. Now I 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:17.920 have to put it out there that I in the 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:24.280 book Is is solely a fictional character. She does Jamie 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:28.320 does not talk to Is in the book. Okay, she 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:32.640 is an altered ego, but she doesn't go back and forth. 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:35.760 So you know, Danielle was a revelation. She's such a 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:40.480 hugely talented actor, and the dynamic between the sisters was 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:43.080 really incredible on and off the screen. So that was 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:46.920 thrilling to see how they took my idea and brought 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:49.920 it to life. And then all of the other actors, 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:51.760 they were great. So I got to come to set, 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:54.360 So we'll back up a little bit there. I guess 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.320 I was low maintenance enough. They invited me and my 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:57.119 daughter's set. 0:07:57.760 --> 0:07:59.160 Yes, so I thought we'd. 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:01.320 Again be fighting in the corner. No one would know. 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:03.960 I told my daughter, don't speak for the next three days. 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:08.360 He walked in and it was just full on welcome. 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:11.800 The cast came in and they said, I'm Harmony, and 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:14.520 I hope I do it for justice and or they'd say, 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:16.920 I'm Jennifer one and two, can you give us some 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:20.400 backstory and motivation? So we ended up being really really 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:23.160 part of the process, and you know, I love that. 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:25.640 I thank Paul Howe and the director, you know, and 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:27.640 all the cast and crew for making us feel such 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:29.440 a part of things. Yes. 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:33.000 Wow, so you were on set for three days? 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:33.199 Then? 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.560 Yes, okay, how fun? And to me, I feel like, 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:40.960 obviously for you, it's amazing to see your book come 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:44.360 to life, But how is it watching your daughter? I 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:46.199 mean she was a fan, like you said of the 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:49.760 Panabaker's sisters, Like, how amazing was it as a mom 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:53.360 to watch her just like light up? And you know, 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:56.400 both your kids have so much personality and they both 0:08:56.440 --> 0:09:00.320 act a little bit right, Yes, So how amazing was 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:03.120 that to just watch her be on a set and 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:05.120 see like, this is if this is what you kind 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:05.719 of want to do? 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:10.120 Here we are like, oh, it's you'll see it. And 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:13.120 your daughter's dancing, so when you see he and glow 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:16.679 and shine, it's that mom feeling. But also for good 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:19.120 or for bad, it really did spark my daughter into 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:20.760 wanting to be in the entertainment business. 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.120 Hey, that's a good way of saying it. That's absolutely. 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:29.120 She is a play right in New York City. She 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:31.880 just had a very successful run off a play she created, 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:35.280 So that's exciting. And my son again a little bitter 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:38.400 in hindsight, he didn't get to come. So he's actually 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:41.280 an actor and his first movie role was with Ross 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:42.640 Lynch of the Disney Channel. 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:44.479 Oh okay, sure all comes. 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:45.679 Full certain I remember that. 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:49.439 How so did you know that they were going to 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:52.240 put like, put you in a scene when you got there? 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:54.160 Was this something they had discussed with you? Or are 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.040 they like, hey, why don't you come and just sit 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:56.520 right here? 0:09:57.120 --> 0:10:00.520 Yes? So they said, oh, you do you want a 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:03.680 cameo quinn to my daughter, and of course she said, 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:05.679 you know, I would love to. So they brought her 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:08.080 back to hair and makeup. You know, they fixed her 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:10.120 cute little outfit. They put her in the it's the 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:12.920 Pizza place and they put her at the chair and 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:14.800 then they looked at me and they said, mom, can you, 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:16.280 you know, just go sit with her and watch her. 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:18.880 You might be in the background. And I said, sure, 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:22.680 no hair, no makeup, nothing, So I go and I 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:26.560 sit in the chair and they said, just be natural, 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:30.560 have natural reactions. So, actually, we're sitting in the Dad's 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:34.920 you know, bizarre pizza place, and suddenly I smell the 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:38.080 worst smell I possibly have ever smelled in my life. 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:39.839 And I kind of look out of the corner of 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:41.840 my eye and I see the cast and crew just 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:45.880 cracking up, laughing. They bring out this pizza and you 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:49.000 can see it in the movie. They served us a 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:54.920 chicken feet pizza. My daughter went, Mommy, that's not real, 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.520 is it? And I said, of course, it's not real. 0:10:57.840 --> 0:10:58.680 It was totally real. 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:02.199 Oh, you could spell it. 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:04.679 So I make a fake that I will spare you 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:09.320 because unfortunately I've seen it thousands of times, Oliver, because 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:12.000 they did a close up on us, which is adorable, 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:14.640 but I think I'm going to vomit. So imagine me 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:19.240 like premieres seeing on the big screen moment is me 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:21.400 looking like I'm literally going to throw up. 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:25.120 My god, Oh I love that so much. 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:35.560 Well, I'm curious. You mentioned that you wanted to be 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:37.679 kind of in the background. You didn't want to be, 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:41.560 you know, the overbearing writer. But that being said, was 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:44.960 there any part of the book where you were kind of, 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:48.200 you know, steadfast, like you can't change this, this this 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:50.000 part right here is not up for grabs. 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:53.640 No, I gave it to Disney. I trusted the writerstricken 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:56.560 Beth Wow. I was a big d Coom fan. But 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:58.800 they were kind enough to let me see the script, 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:02.000 and there were that I thought didn't quite fit, just 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:06.240 two minor things. So I asked, you know, I suggested 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:09.240 those as changes, and they made those as changes, and 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:12.960 then they changed a lot in the movie the I 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:15.600 didn't have an older brother, I had an older sister. 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:21.679 She did not talk to her alter ego and interesting ways, 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:25.040 Oh we said flicked. I had it like them flicking 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:30.120 instead of zapping. But when you say flick somebody off, 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:32.280 that's probably not the greatest. 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:35.120 You know, that might sound a little too close to 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:35.760 another word. 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:39.320 Yeah. Yeah, So they changed that, and she in my book, 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.640 she didn't really lose touch with reality. But that's a 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:44.280 whole other moment. But one scene that made the movie 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:46.720 from my book that really cracked me up was something 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:51.040 when you were talking about embarrassing moments in Hollywood, and 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:54.320 I remember you asked, Sabrina. I listened to your episode, 0:12:54.440 --> 0:13:02.040 of course, because I follow your podcast mostly because of Sabrinas's. 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.600 I know, I get it. That's why I'm on it. 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:07.720 I love the podcast. But one of the things is, 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:09.800 I remember you had asked if she had ever had 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:13.720 an embarrassing moment in Hollywood, and I actually wrote a 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:16.920 scene that took place at one of the hotel clubs 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:19.280 in Hollywood. I was working at the time for Mister 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:22.880 T of the A Teen. Yes, I'll just you have 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:25.760 to picture this. I live in Ohio, so I'm working 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:28.800 suddenly for mister T. I'm out in Hollywood. There were 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:32.960 tons of A listers. There were these really cool round couches, 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.960 so I sat down on one and I lay back 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:38.160 looking at the sky, and I remember thinking, this is 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:41.000 a moment I will not forget. This is really cool. 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:43.080 You know. I was really young at the time. And 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:47.520 then all of a sudden something yanked my hair. I 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:50.560 had a butterfly bar and my hair and someone else 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:53.440 had leaned back on the couches. I look up. I 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.400 see one of the Friends cast members looking at me, 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.240 and he said, uh are you are you guys okay? 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:02.760 And we both went we just like in the movie. 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:05.600 Do you remember the scene where, of course, of course, yeah, 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:10.040 Amber Tiffany's Tiara I had gotten caught in one of 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:16.000 the friends stars of Friends here which friend? Yeah, David Swimmer. 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:18.880 That's awesome. 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:22.440 So I so we try to sit up and just 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:24.280 like they filmed it in the movie, and I remember 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:27.600 acting this out for somebody. We went out and we 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:33.760 go through the Montopoi Hotel, the ladies room, stuck together, 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:37.720 where we finally untangled. So that and then they pulled 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:39.080 that right out of my real life. 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:42.360 Well, you know, what moments have you ever seen him since? 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:43.720 No? 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:47.080 No, okay, because I mean that there's so many things, there's. 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:49.000 So many interactions with people in your life you're never 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:52.600 gonna remember. But the time you were connected to somebody 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.960 at the hotel by your hair, I'm guaranteeing you he's 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:57.960 gonna he would remember that instantly. 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:00.520 So I can tell you I there are a lot 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:03.280 of other alest celebrities. There were musicians, there were actors. 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.000 It was the biggest scene place to be, and we 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:08.840 went through them going excuse me, for me, excuse me? Me? 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:11.240 Oh my god. 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:13.920 Oh. 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:15.760 I hope we get a chance to talk to him someday, 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:18.320 because I swear he will absolutely remember that. 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:22.360 Remember that for the moment, and the funniest it was 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:24.360 as if you had written it because I remember leaning 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:26.920 back looking at the stars in the sky above and thinking, 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:32.440 I will always remember this moment. Out didn't we didn't weep? 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:34.480 Love it? 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:38.000 Was there anything in the movie that kind of bombed 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.960 you out that they that they added in or was 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:43.960 there anything that they took out that you were like, Ah, man, 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:46.240 I wish they had. I know you were, I know 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:48.400 how you are, and I know you would not You 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:50.600 just gave it to them and and knew they'd do 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:52.840 a great job. But was there anything that kind of went, 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:54.960 oh man, they missed the mark. 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:58.800 On that, or I wish I would have done it? Yeah? 0:15:58.880 --> 0:15:59.680 Yeah, I wish they would. 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:02.800 Yeah, one single line that must have been put in 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.560 after I read the script, and that was about having 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:06.440 a nutty. 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:09.760 Was it really? Isn't we we did a whole thing 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:10.360 about that? 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:10.880 Really? 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:14.200 Oh man? Because even Sabrina was like, what does that mean? 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:18.120 He will knew what that meant? Like, oh of course, 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:21.880 And I'm like, I can only think terrible thoughts of 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:24.640 whatever that means. That does not sound like a Disney 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:27.760 line in any sense. I feel like it doesn't need 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:30.160 to be there. We could have thought of something else. 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:31.760 I'm right there with you again. 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:33.360 Back in the day pitching a nutty. 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.920 You can't, Yeah right, you can't. 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:40.640 Don't flick a nutty. That's not a good thing. 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:44.800 Will You saw decades of me wondering did they pick 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:49.040 it up where they dispatch happened? I was like a 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:52.720 second he an embarrassing watching her try to say that line. 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:56.920 I thought, did you like now you said that in 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:00.280 the book is doesn't interact with her alter ego? Did 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:02.440 you like how they did that or was that kind 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:04.720 of like not sure I would have gone that route. 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:09.800 Well, Danielle and Kay did such an amazing job with it. Yes, 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:13.520 sometimes I was a little concerned for my characters, especially 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:15.359 as I said, you know, I wrote this character as 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:18.080 a mini me, so I wld check to make sure that, 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:21.560 you know, I hadn't talked to any imaginary characters that 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:24.600 I have written. Most people, No, my husband may have 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:29.600 said yes, but but he did so. I mean it 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:33.679 was such and of the moment. Yes, it was really 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:37.159 of its time. Everything from that computer tablet that she 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:39.760 got to draw, and we didn't have anything like that nothing. 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:45.000 We have said that time and time again about Disney 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:50.040 being so much on the forefront of technology. We just 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:54.400 did We've done Smart House recently, and it's like the 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:56.160 whole movie, you're just going. 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:58.080 It's just they just put their predicted the future. 0:17:58.080 --> 0:17:58.560 They knew. 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:02.080 Everything all this. 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:04.960 You're just going, how does Disney do it? I mean 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:07.760 this is lightly This was years before any of this 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:10.639 stuff that's come out. So yes, the tablet was so 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:13.760 cool and it looked great how they did it, and 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:17.080 you know, I mean, it was just so fun for me. 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:20.840 I loved it because I felt like it really talked 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:25.359 to a girls' teenage point of view. A lot of 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:27.800 stuff that you go through, a lot of things that 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:31.119 you kind of make up in your head, you know 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:34.119 what I mean, as you go through those those teenage years. 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:35.800 And I just feel like it was such a great 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:39.719 message and it was just fun. It's an easy watch. 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:42.040 You don't have to sit there and ask questions. There's 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:44.639 some movies Will and I've covered that were like, I'm like, 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:48.320 my brain was on overdrive trying to figure out what's 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:51.400 going on? Why does the magic situation not make sense? 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:54.560 Like all that this isn't the dog talking like the 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:55.360 dog talking? 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:57.920 And I think that I think when you talk about 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:02.680 those two characters having someone an actual interaction I think 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:06.199 made it make it easier versus like her being like 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:08.639 on her shoulder or like you know, or in her 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:11.840 head of some sort. Having them actually have interactions when 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:14.040 you read it through a book is easy to do, 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:17.280 but watching it on camera was it just made it 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:19.480 so such a nice watch it did. 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:22.320 I think I mentioned smack a little bit of mental illness. 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:24.320 We talked about that a little bit as she's talking 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:27.640 to imaginary people the whole time. It does maybe as 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:30.680 a parent, would concern you slightly if you're walking around 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:32.119 talking to imaginary people. 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:36.359 Yeah, possibly it's a conversation between parents and children's about 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:41.080 important mental health issues. Yes, absolutely, But like I said, 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:44.480 I don't talk to my fictional characters. Let's make that clear. 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:46.200 It was I think that, Hey, I have a friend 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:48.199 of mine who's a screenwriter who he writes all the 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:51.240 dialogue with two puppets. So he does the voices and 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:52.840 the puppets are going, we'll have the puppet on you 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:54.400 chan and they go back and forth as he writes 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:55.040 the dialogue. 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:59.600 So, wow, what the writing process. 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:03.080 Rina our next book? Maybe we have puppets. We have 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:04.160 a will puppet? 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:09.440 Yes, oh my god, brought it up. Destroys to Rita. 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:12.560 And never you brought it up. 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:14.880 So we've got to talk about Please take it away 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:17.040 because you both wrote a book together. 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:20.119