1
00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:16,759
Speaker 1: Thank you so much everybody for joining us on this

2
00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,880
Speaker 1: par Copper episode, and we've got a very special one

3
00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,759
Speaker 1: today for a number of reasons. One because well, we

4
00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,479
Speaker 1: already watched Read and Weep and we talked about Reading

5
00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,720
Speaker 1: and Weep, but also because we're meeting something that is

6
00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,080
Speaker 1: somewhat of a rarity in the world, a friend of Sabrina's.

7
00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,360
Speaker 2: I'm kidding, I love you so much.

8
00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:40,400
Speaker 3: I had to.

9
00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,280
Speaker 1: I had to do it, not only a friend of Sabrina's,

10
00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,920
Speaker 1: but somebody who has worked with Sabrina on a pretty

11
00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,080
Speaker 1: cool project which we're going to get into. I'm not

12
00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:51,199
Speaker 1: going to hold up anymore.

13
00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:55,639
Speaker 2: You know, I love you Sabrina again. You please help us.

14
00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:02,960
Speaker 1: Welcome author Julia de Villers. Hi, Julia, I've heard so

15
00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,200
Speaker 1: much about you. Sabrina talks about you glowingly and Tru

16
00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,680
Speaker 1: said you had such a wonderful time working together. And

17
00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,480
Speaker 1: we're going to get into all of that, of course, yes,

18
00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,600
Speaker 1: but we have to start with well why, I mean,

19
00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:16,920
Speaker 1: you're here for a number of reasons.

20
00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,480
Speaker 2: But we watched Read It and Weep?

21
00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,759
Speaker 1: Why, Well, we did, and we love we liked Read

22
00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,399
Speaker 1: It and Weep a lot, and we have several questions,

23
00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:25,880
Speaker 1: and by that I mean a whole bunch of questions

24
00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,479
Speaker 1: about the project and just curiously, how did the entire

25
00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:31,959
Speaker 1: thing come to fruition?

26
00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:32,880
Speaker 2: Where did this come from?

27
00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,360
Speaker 3: So the short answer is, I guess read it and

28
00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,959
Speaker 3: we've actually came from my brain, my imagination, which is

29
00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:44,600
Speaker 3: kind of wild. One moment, you're, you know, making up

30
00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,680
Speaker 3: an alter ego. The next minute, I guess it comes

31
00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,680
Speaker 3: on the screen. So read it and weep was such

32
00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,400
Speaker 3: a great experience. I wrote the book. It was based

33
00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,160
Speaker 3: on how my private personal journal became a bestseller, and

34
00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,480
Speaker 3: it was kind of a wish fulfillment of what I

35
00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,640
Speaker 3: would have wanted to happen when I was a teenager.

36
00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,640
Speaker 3: I loved books, and I thought, wouldn't it be cool

37
00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,840
Speaker 3: if I became a best selling author? Where's the you know,

38
00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,480
Speaker 3: where's the drama in that? So and Jamie is the

39
00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,359
Speaker 3: most like me of any character that I've written. And

40
00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,720
Speaker 3: the spoiler alert, the book actually ends with the main

41
00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:20,480
Speaker 3: character getting a movie deal. Oh okay, So it turns

42
00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,440
Speaker 3: out to be a lot like real life. It's almost

43
00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,480
Speaker 3: like I'm manifested in a book. So let your listeners,

44
00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,560
Speaker 3: anyone who wants to write a book use that as

45
00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:29,880
Speaker 3: something to inspire them.

46
00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say so.

47
00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,239
Speaker 3: When the book came out, somebody at Disney was scanning

48
00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,600
Speaker 3: the shelves at Barnes and Noble. She pulled it out

49
00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,040
Speaker 3: and she said, I see this as a d com.

50
00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:46,320
Speaker 1: Ah, that's just that's great advice. And when I leave here,

51
00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to write a book where at the end

52
00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,720
Speaker 1: I win the lottery, which will be great. So we

53
00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,760
Speaker 1: can we can get that manifested in the world, which

54
00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,240
Speaker 1: will be fun. Now, were you familiar with the world

55
00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,000
Speaker 1: of dcom? Was this something that you were excited about?

56
00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:59,679
Speaker 1: Did you know anything about it? Where you were you

57
00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,280
Speaker 1: ware wry about going into the world? How did that feel?

58
00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,720
Speaker 3: Just pure excitement? I had little kids?

59
00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,040
Speaker 4: Yeah. How old was Quinn at this time? She has

60
00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:08,960
Speaker 4: a daughter named Quinn?

61
00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,320
Speaker 3: How old was she Quinn when we went to the set,

62
00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,200
Speaker 3: which I think I've got some good stories for you about.

63
00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:20,360
Speaker 3: Quinn was ten when that was filming, or ten and

64
00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,359
Speaker 3: my son Jack was too little to come to the

65
00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:27,760
Speaker 3: set and he's you know, forever bidder. So we'll put

66
00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,520
Speaker 3: in another movie and get him on there.

67
00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,840
Speaker 4: But so would they d calm watchers like were you

68
00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,640
Speaker 4: seen d com? You were in the mom World of

69
00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,280
Speaker 4: Disney Channel just on your screen twenty four to seven.

70
00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,920
Speaker 3: Then my favorite was Stuck in the Suburbs, which stars

71
00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,200
Speaker 3: Danielle Pana Baker.

72
00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,160
Speaker 4: Does so okay, So then you get contacted by the

73
00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,560
Speaker 4: channel at how involved were you able to be just

74
00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,600
Speaker 4: alone in the castine process? Were you able to come

75
00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,680
Speaker 4: into any castine reads or were they putting anyone's name

76
00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,920
Speaker 4: in front of you at all? For opinions, I think.

77
00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,120
Speaker 3: This one might have gone a little differently because they

78
00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:11,080
Speaker 3: wanted to hurry into production, so they green lit this

79
00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,480
Speaker 3: movie really fast because Danielle and kay Pana Baker had availability,

80
00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,960
Speaker 3: I believe. So when they called me, they said, we

81
00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,680
Speaker 3: have the two stars. It's up to you say yes

82
00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:24,039
Speaker 3: or no.

83
00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,960
Speaker 4: So the power that is very cool they gave you

84
00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,560
Speaker 4: that that's pretty awesome.

85
00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,440
Speaker 3: As a writer, I wanted to be low maintenance. You know,

86
00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,280
Speaker 3: you don't want the writers hovering or you know, getting

87
00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,320
Speaker 3: becoming an obstacle in the process. So I was thrilled

88
00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,600
Speaker 3: that I even knew who was starring in it. Never

89
00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,120
Speaker 3: thought i'd hear from them again until the movie came

90
00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:45,720
Speaker 3: on the air. But that wasn't the nic.

91
00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,279
Speaker 1: It's also I mean, that's one of the things we

92
00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,920
Speaker 1: loved about the movie was you couldn't have done better

93
00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:58,000
Speaker 1: casting where it's your older sister playing the idealized version

94
00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,880
Speaker 1: of yourself. There's some things so kind of wonderful about that.

95
00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,920
Speaker 1: I mean, forget about the fact. So Danielle. I've met

96
00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,120
Speaker 1: Danielle and she's wonderful and as an actress she's phenomenal.

97
00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,279
Speaker 2: But Kay killed it in this movie.

98
00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,520
Speaker 1: Uh, and we've seen her in a couple now and

99
00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,760
Speaker 1: she is really really talented.

100
00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,280
Speaker 2: Were you was this kind of like just a home

101
00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,560
Speaker 2: run for you? Casting wise? Home run?

102
00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,520
Speaker 3: It was amazing, from Kate and Danielle to the zach

103
00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:31,920
Speaker 3: Efron look alike. Oh man, I think who was still

104
00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,880
Speaker 3: a friend of mine. He still comes to my book signings,

105
00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:34,400
Speaker 3: believe it or not.

106
00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:35,920
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, so sweet.

107
00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,800
Speaker 3: Allison Skagliotti played the meanest, mean role but was the

108
00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,159
Speaker 3: nicest person. But I have to tell you that I

109
00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,680
Speaker 3: think you all owe me a thank you because if

110
00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,320
Speaker 3: it wasn't for me, not really, Jason Dolly wouldn't be

111
00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:53,520
Speaker 3: Oh Jason, Sir, Jason, Jason.

112
00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,279
Speaker 4: Was this his first Disney thing?

113
00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,520
Speaker 3: Jason Dolly's very first is the Chapel role, and I

114
00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,919
Speaker 3: believe it or not, he wasn't the one originally cast

115
00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,240
Speaker 3: for it. He was, I believe, the backup plan. And

116
00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:08,160
Speaker 3: he might have told you.

117
00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:13,480
Speaker 4: This, but he did. He did tell us this, Yes, And.

118
00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,920
Speaker 3: What was really interesting was the other actor they had

119
00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,080
Speaker 3: picked to play Connor ended up acting in other things.

120
00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,320
Speaker 3: And he looks nothing like Jason. He has dark hair,

121
00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,719
Speaker 3: and he started Jason is the epitome of who I

122
00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,440
Speaker 3: had in mind when I wrote the character of Connor.

123
00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:29,559
Speaker 4: Wow.

124
00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,320
Speaker 1: Well, that's one of the things I wanted to ask

125
00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,040
Speaker 1: you about because you know, a lot of times you

126
00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,880
Speaker 1: talk to writers, especially television writers or film writers, and

127
00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,320
Speaker 1: they'll write with an actor or actress in mind. So

128
00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,719
Speaker 1: when you're writing a novel, the characters obviously created in

129
00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,040
Speaker 1: your head. You're the only one in the world who

130
00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,640
Speaker 1: actually knows what this character looks like. How close did

131
00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,479
Speaker 1: they get? I mean, you said Jason was kind of

132
00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,680
Speaker 1: right on the button. How close were the rest of

133
00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,520
Speaker 1: them for the cast? Was it? Did you walk in

134
00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,880
Speaker 1: and go, oh, there they are, That's that's who was

135
00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:58,520
Speaker 1: in my head.

136
00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:03,200
Speaker 3: Yes and no, So Kay absolutely, because I have to say,

137
00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,520
Speaker 3: Kay is the epitome of a cooler version of what

138
00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,279
Speaker 3: I looked like at that age. So I walked in

139
00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,840
Speaker 3: and I thought, okay, was a mini meme, which is

140
00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,360
Speaker 3: kind of how I wrote this first character. Now I

141
00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,920
Speaker 3: have to put it out there that I in the

142
00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:24,280
Speaker 3: book Is is solely a fictional character. She does Jamie

143
00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:28,320
Speaker 3: does not talk to Is in the book. Okay, she

144
00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,640
Speaker 3: is an altered ego, but she doesn't go back and forth.

145
00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,760
Speaker 3: So you know, Danielle was a revelation. She's such a

146
00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:40,480
Speaker 3: hugely talented actor, and the dynamic between the sisters was

147
00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,080
Speaker 3: really incredible on and off the screen. So that was

148
00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,920
Speaker 3: thrilling to see how they took my idea and brought

149
00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,920
Speaker 3: it to life. And then all of the other actors,

150
00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,760
Speaker 3: they were great. So I got to come to set,

151
00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,360
Speaker 3: So we'll back up a little bit there. I guess

152
00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,320
Speaker 3: I was low maintenance enough. They invited me and my

153
00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:57,119
Speaker 3: daughter's set.

154
00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,160
Speaker 4: Yes, so I thought we'd.

155
00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,320
Speaker 3: Again be fighting in the corner. No one would know.

156
00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,960
Speaker 3: I told my daughter, don't speak for the next three days.

157
00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,360
Speaker 3: He walked in and it was just full on welcome.

158
00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,800
Speaker 3: The cast came in and they said, I'm Harmony, and

159
00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,520
Speaker 3: I hope I do it for justice and or they'd say,

160
00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,920
Speaker 3: I'm Jennifer one and two, can you give us some

161
00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,400
Speaker 3: backstory and motivation? So we ended up being really really

162
00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,160
Speaker 3: part of the process, and you know, I love that.

163
00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,640
Speaker 3: I thank Paul Howe and the director, you know, and

164
00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,640
Speaker 3: all the cast and crew for making us feel such

165
00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,440
Speaker 3: a part of things. Yes.

166
00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,000
Speaker 4: Wow, so you were on set for three days?

167
00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:33,199
Speaker 3: Then?

168
00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,560
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, how fun? And to me, I feel like,

169
00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,960
Speaker 4: obviously for you, it's amazing to see your book come

170
00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,360
Speaker 4: to life, But how is it watching your daughter? I

171
00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,199
Speaker 4: mean she was a fan, like you said of the

172
00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,760
Speaker 4: Panabaker's sisters, Like, how amazing was it as a mom

173
00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,360
Speaker 4: to watch her just like light up? And you know,

174
00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,400
Speaker 4: both your kids have so much personality and they both

175
00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,320
Speaker 4: act a little bit right, Yes, So how amazing was

176
00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,120
Speaker 4: that to just watch her be on a set and

177
00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,120
Speaker 4: see like, this is if this is what you kind

178
00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:05,719
Speaker 4: of want to do?

179
00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:10,120
Speaker 3: Here we are like, oh, it's you'll see it. And

180
00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,120
Speaker 3: your daughter's dancing, so when you see he and glow

181
00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,679
Speaker 3: and shine, it's that mom feeling. But also for good

182
00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,120
Speaker 3: or for bad, it really did spark my daughter into

183
00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,760
Speaker 3: wanting to be in the entertainment business.

184
00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,120
Speaker 2: Hey, that's a good way of saying it. That's absolutely.

185
00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,120
Speaker 3: She is a play right in New York City. She

186
00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,880
Speaker 3: just had a very successful run off a play she created,

187
00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,280
Speaker 3: So that's exciting. And my son again a little bitter

188
00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,400
Speaker 3: in hindsight, he didn't get to come. So he's actually

189
00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,280
Speaker 3: an actor and his first movie role was with Ross

190
00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:42,640
Speaker 3: Lynch of the Disney Channel.

191
00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,479
Speaker 2: Oh okay, sure all comes.

192
00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:45,679
Speaker 4: Full certain I remember that.

193
00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,439
Speaker 1: How so did you know that they were going to

194
00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,240
Speaker 1: put like, put you in a scene when you got there?

195
00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,160
Speaker 1: Was this something they had discussed with you? Or are

196
00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,040
Speaker 1: they like, hey, why don't you come and just sit

197
00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:56,520
Speaker 1: right here?

198
00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,520
Speaker 3: Yes? So they said, oh, you do you want a

199
00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,680
Speaker 3: cameo quinn to my daughter, and of course she said,

200
00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,679
Speaker 3: you know, I would love to. So they brought her

201
00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,080
Speaker 3: back to hair and makeup. You know, they fixed her

202
00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,120
Speaker 3: cute little outfit. They put her in the it's the

203
00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,920
Speaker 3: Pizza place and they put her at the chair and

204
00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:14,800
Speaker 3: then they looked at me and they said, mom, can you,

205
00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,280
Speaker 3: you know, just go sit with her and watch her.

206
00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,880
Speaker 3: You might be in the background. And I said, sure,

207
00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,680
Speaker 3: no hair, no makeup, nothing, So I go and I

208
00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,560
Speaker 3: sit in the chair and they said, just be natural,

209
00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,560
Speaker 3: have natural reactions. So, actually, we're sitting in the Dad's

210
00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,920
Speaker 3: you know, bizarre pizza place, and suddenly I smell the

211
00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,080
Speaker 3: worst smell I possibly have ever smelled in my life.

212
00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:39,839
Speaker 3: And I kind of look out of the corner of

213
00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,840
Speaker 3: my eye and I see the cast and crew just

214
00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,880
Speaker 3: cracking up, laughing. They bring out this pizza and you

215
00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,000
Speaker 3: can see it in the movie. They served us a

216
00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:54,920
Speaker 3: chicken feet pizza. My daughter went, Mommy, that's not real,

217
00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,520
Speaker 3: is it? And I said, of course, it's not real.

218
00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:58,680
Speaker 3: It was totally real.

219
00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,199
Speaker 1: Oh, you could spell it.

220
00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,679
Speaker 3: So I make a fake that I will spare you

221
00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:09,320
Speaker 3: because unfortunately I've seen it thousands of times, Oliver, because

222
00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,000
Speaker 3: they did a close up on us, which is adorable,

223
00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,640
Speaker 3: but I think I'm going to vomit. So imagine me

224
00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:19,240
Speaker 3: like premieres seeing on the big screen moment is me

225
00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,400
Speaker 3: looking like I'm literally going to throw up.

226
00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,120
Speaker 2: My god, Oh I love that so much.

227
00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,560
Speaker 1: Well, I'm curious. You mentioned that you wanted to be

228
00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,679
Speaker 1: kind of in the background. You didn't want to be,

229
00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,560
Speaker 1: you know, the overbearing writer. But that being said, was

230
00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,960
Speaker 1: there any part of the book where you were kind of,

231
00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, steadfast, like you can't change this, this this

232
00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,000
Speaker 1: part right here is not up for grabs.

233
00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,640
Speaker 3: No, I gave it to Disney. I trusted the writerstricken

234
00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,560
Speaker 3: Beth Wow. I was a big d Coom fan. But

235
00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,800
Speaker 3: they were kind enough to let me see the script,

236
00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,000
Speaker 3: and there were that I thought didn't quite fit, just

237
00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:06,240
Speaker 3: two minor things. So I asked, you know, I suggested

238
00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,240
Speaker 3: those as changes, and they made those as changes, and

239
00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,960
Speaker 3: then they changed a lot in the movie the I

240
00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,600
Speaker 3: didn't have an older brother, I had an older sister.

241
00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:21,679
Speaker 3: She did not talk to her alter ego and interesting ways,

242
00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,040
Speaker 3: Oh we said flicked. I had it like them flicking

243
00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:30,120
Speaker 3: instead of zapping. But when you say flick somebody off,

244
00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,280
Speaker 3: that's probably not the greatest.

245
00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,120
Speaker 2: You know, that might sound a little too close to

246
00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:35,760
Speaker 2: another word.

247
00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So they changed that, and she in my book,

248
00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,640
Speaker 3: she didn't really lose touch with reality. But that's a

249
00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,280
Speaker 3: whole other moment. But one scene that made the movie

250
00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,720
Speaker 3: from my book that really cracked me up was something

251
00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:51,040
Speaker 3: when you were talking about embarrassing moments in Hollywood, and

252
00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,320
Speaker 3: I remember you asked, Sabrina. I listened to your episode,

253
00:12:54,440 --> 00:13:02,040
Speaker 3: of course, because I follow your podcast mostly because of Sabrinas's.

254
00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,600
Speaker 2: I know, I get it. That's why I'm on it.

255
00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,720
Speaker 3: I love the podcast. But one of the things is,

256
00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:09,800
Speaker 3: I remember you had asked if she had ever had

257
00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,720
Speaker 3: an embarrassing moment in Hollywood, and I actually wrote a

258
00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,920
Speaker 3: scene that took place at one of the hotel clubs

259
00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,280
Speaker 3: in Hollywood. I was working at the time for Mister

260
00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,880
Speaker 3: T of the A Teen. Yes, I'll just you have

261
00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,760
Speaker 3: to picture this. I live in Ohio, so I'm working

262
00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,800
Speaker 3: suddenly for mister T. I'm out in Hollywood. There were

263
00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,960
Speaker 3: tons of A listers. There were these really cool round couches,

264
00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,960
Speaker 3: so I sat down on one and I lay back

265
00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,160
Speaker 3: looking at the sky, and I remember thinking, this is

266
00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,000
Speaker 3: a moment I will not forget. This is really cool.

267
00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,080
Speaker 3: You know. I was really young at the time. And

268
00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:47,520
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden something yanked my hair. I

269
00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,560
Speaker 3: had a butterfly bar and my hair and someone else

270
00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,440
Speaker 3: had leaned back on the couches. I look up. I

271
00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,400
Speaker 3: see one of the Friends cast members looking at me,

272
00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,240
Speaker 3: and he said, uh are you are you guys okay?

273
00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,760
Speaker 3: And we both went we just like in the movie.

274
00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,600
Speaker 3: Do you remember the scene where, of course, of course, yeah,

275
00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:10,040
Speaker 3: Amber Tiffany's Tiara I had gotten caught in one of

276
00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:16,000
Speaker 3: the friends stars of Friends here which friend? Yeah, David Swimmer.

277
00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:18,880
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

278
00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,440
Speaker 3: So I so we try to sit up and just

279
00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,280
Speaker 3: like they filmed it in the movie, and I remember

280
00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,600
Speaker 3: acting this out for somebody. We went out and we

281
00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:33,760
Speaker 3: go through the Montopoi Hotel, the ladies room, stuck together,

282
00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,720
Speaker 3: where we finally untangled. So that and then they pulled

283
00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,080
Speaker 3: that right out of my real life.

284
00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,360
Speaker 2: Well, you know, what moments have you ever seen him since?

285
00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:43,720
Speaker 3: No?

286
00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,080
Speaker 2: No, okay, because I mean that there's so many things, there's.

287
00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,000
Speaker 1: So many interactions with people in your life you're never

288
00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,600
Speaker 1: gonna remember. But the time you were connected to somebody

289
00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,960
Speaker 1: at the hotel by your hair, I'm guaranteeing you he's

290
00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,960
Speaker 1: gonna he would remember that instantly.

291
00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,520
Speaker 3: So I can tell you I there are a lot

292
00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,280
Speaker 3: of other alest celebrities. There were musicians, there were actors.

293
00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,000
Speaker 3: It was the biggest scene place to be, and we

294
00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,840
Speaker 3: went through them going excuse me, for me, excuse me? Me?

295
00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,240
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

296
00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:13,920
Speaker 3: Oh.

297
00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:15,760
Speaker 1: I hope we get a chance to talk to him someday,

298
00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,320
Speaker 1: because I swear he will absolutely remember that.

299
00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,360
Speaker 3: Remember that for the moment, and the funniest it was

300
00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,360
Speaker 3: as if you had written it because I remember leaning

301
00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,920
Speaker 3: back looking at the stars in the sky above and thinking,

302
00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:32,440
Speaker 3: I will always remember this moment. Out didn't we didn't weep?

303
00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:34,480
Speaker 2: Love it?

304
00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,000
Speaker 4: Was there anything in the movie that kind of bombed

305
00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,960
Speaker 4: you out that they that they added in or was

306
00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,960
Speaker 4: there anything that they took out that you were like, Ah, man,

307
00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,240
Speaker 4: I wish they had. I know you were, I know

308
00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,400
Speaker 4: how you are, and I know you would not You

309
00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,600
Speaker 4: just gave it to them and and knew they'd do

310
00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,840
Speaker 4: a great job. But was there anything that kind of went,

311
00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,960
Speaker 4: oh man, they missed the mark.

312
00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,800
Speaker 2: On that, or I wish I would have done it? Yeah?

313
00:15:58,880 --> 00:15:59,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wish they would.

314
00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, one single line that must have been put in

315
00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,560
Speaker 3: after I read the script, and that was about having

316
00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:06,440
Speaker 3: a nutty.

317
00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,760
Speaker 2: Was it really? Isn't we we did a whole thing

318
00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:10,360
Speaker 2: about that?

319
00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:10,880
Speaker 4: Really?

320
00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,200
Speaker 2: Oh man? Because even Sabrina was like, what does that mean?

321
00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,120
Speaker 4: He will knew what that meant? Like, oh of course,

322
00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,880
Speaker 4: And I'm like, I can only think terrible thoughts of

323
00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,640
Speaker 4: whatever that means. That does not sound like a Disney

324
00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,760
Speaker 4: line in any sense. I feel like it doesn't need

325
00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,160
Speaker 4: to be there. We could have thought of something else.

326
00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:31,760
Speaker 4: I'm right there with you again.

327
00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,360
Speaker 2: Back in the day pitching a nutty.

328
00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,920
Speaker 1: You can't, Yeah right, you can't.

329
00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,640
Speaker 2: Don't flick a nutty. That's not a good thing.

330
00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,800
Speaker 3: Will You saw decades of me wondering did they pick

331
00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:49,040
Speaker 3: it up where they dispatch happened? I was like a

332
00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,720
Speaker 3: second he an embarrassing watching her try to say that line.

333
00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,920
Speaker 1: I thought, did you like now you said that in

334
00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,280
Speaker 1: the book is doesn't interact with her alter ego? Did

335
00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,440
Speaker 1: you like how they did that or was that kind

336
00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,720
Speaker 1: of like not sure I would have gone that route.

337
00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,800
Speaker 3: Well, Danielle and Kay did such an amazing job with it. Yes,

338
00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,520
Speaker 3: sometimes I was a little concerned for my characters, especially

339
00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,359
Speaker 3: as I said, you know, I wrote this character as

340
00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,080
Speaker 3: a mini me, so I wld check to make sure that,

341
00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,560
Speaker 3: you know, I hadn't talked to any imaginary characters that

342
00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,600
Speaker 3: I have written. Most people, No, my husband may have

343
00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:29,600
Speaker 3: said yes, but but he did so. I mean it

344
00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,679
Speaker 3: was such and of the moment. Yes, it was really

345
00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,159
Speaker 3: of its time. Everything from that computer tablet that she

346
00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,760
Speaker 3: got to draw, and we didn't have anything like that nothing.

347
00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:45,000
Speaker 4: We have said that time and time again about Disney

348
00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:50,040
Speaker 4: being so much on the forefront of technology. We just

349
00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:54,400
Speaker 4: did We've done Smart House recently, and it's like the

350
00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,160
Speaker 4: whole movie, you're just going.

351
00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,080
Speaker 2: It's just they just put their predicted the future.

352
00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:58,560
Speaker 4: They knew.

353
00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:02,080
Speaker 2: Everything all this.

354
00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,960
Speaker 4: You're just going, how does Disney do it? I mean

355
00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,760
Speaker 4: this is lightly This was years before any of this

356
00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,639
Speaker 4: stuff that's come out. So yes, the tablet was so

357
00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,760
Speaker 4: cool and it looked great how they did it, and

358
00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,080
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, it was just so fun for me.

359
00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,840
Speaker 4: I loved it because I felt like it really talked

360
00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:25,359
Speaker 4: to a girls' teenage point of view. A lot of

361
00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,800
Speaker 4: stuff that you go through, a lot of things that

362
00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,119
Speaker 4: you kind of make up in your head, you know

363
00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,119
Speaker 4: what I mean, as you go through those those teenage years.

364
00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:35,800
Speaker 4: And I just feel like it was such a great

365
00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,719
Speaker 4: message and it was just fun. It's an easy watch.

366
00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,040
Speaker 4: You don't have to sit there and ask questions. There's

367
00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,639
Speaker 4: some movies Will and I've covered that were like, I'm like,

368
00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,320
Speaker 4: my brain was on overdrive trying to figure out what's

369
00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,400
Speaker 4: going on? Why does the magic situation not make sense?

370
00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,560
Speaker 2: Like all that this isn't the dog talking like the

371
00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:55,360
Speaker 2: dog talking?

372
00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,920
Speaker 4: And I think that I think when you talk about

373
00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:02,680
Speaker 4: those two characters having someone an actual interaction I think

374
00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,199
Speaker 4: made it make it easier versus like her being like

375
00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,639
Speaker 4: on her shoulder or like you know, or in her

376
00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,840
Speaker 4: head of some sort. Having them actually have interactions when

377
00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,040
Speaker 4: you read it through a book is easy to do,

378
00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,280
Speaker 4: but watching it on camera was it just made it

379
00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,480
Speaker 4: so such a nice watch it did.

380
00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,320
Speaker 1: I think I mentioned smack a little bit of mental illness.

381
00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,320
Speaker 1: We talked about that a little bit as she's talking

382
00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,640
Speaker 1: to imaginary people the whole time. It does maybe as

383
00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,680
Speaker 1: a parent, would concern you slightly if you're walking around

384
00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,119
Speaker 1: talking to imaginary people.

385
00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, possibly it's a conversation between parents and children's about

386
00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:41,080
Speaker 3: important mental health issues. Yes, absolutely, But like I said,

387
00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,480
Speaker 3: I don't talk to my fictional characters. Let's make that clear.

388
00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,200
Speaker 1: It was I think that, Hey, I have a friend

389
00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,199
Speaker 1: of mine who's a screenwriter who he writes all the

390
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,240
Speaker 1: dialogue with two puppets. So he does the voices and

391
00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:52,840
Speaker 1: the puppets are going, we'll have the puppet on you

392
00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,400
Speaker 1: chan and they go back and forth as he writes

393
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:55,040
Speaker 1: the dialogue.

394
00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:59,600
Speaker 2: So, wow, what the writing process.

395
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 3: Rina our next book? Maybe we have puppets. We have

396
00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:04,160
Speaker 3: a will puppet?

397
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:09,440
Speaker 4: Yes, oh my god, brought it up. Destroys to Rita.

398
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,560
Speaker 2: And never you brought it up.

399
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,880
Speaker 1: So we've got to talk about Please take it away

400
00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,040
Speaker 1: because you both wrote a book together.

401
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,119
Speaker 4: Right, Yes, it's right behind her. Do you see that

402
00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 4: little bit?

403
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,840
Speaker 2: I do? I see it?

404
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:26,280
Speaker 3: Right next to it is the Indonesian edition.

405
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

406
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,679
Speaker 4: Indonesia picked it up as well, which was really very cool.

407
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 1: So how did how did you guys meet? How did

408
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,960
Speaker 1: this process start? Who came up with this idea?

409
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 4: Come on, dish, Well, I feel like did we did

410
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,160
Speaker 4: Mel introduce us? Is that how we met? And how

411
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 4: do you? I don't remember what your connection is with Mel?

412
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 3: Yeah? So I met Mel at a book festival. Mel's

413
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 3: a book person and a creative person, and she and

414
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,639
Speaker 3: I was doing a keynote and she came up afterward

415
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,639
Speaker 3: and she said, I would love to talk to you,

416
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 3: and then we just hit it off immediately, as you

417
00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 3: do with Mel.

418
00:20:58,520 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 2: Who's Mel?

419
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 4: Mel's my manager? Oh okay, yeah, Who's been with me

420
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 4: for years, like just a few years. Outside of the

421
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,920
Speaker 4: Cheetah Girls, she worked with Deborah Martin Chase, who we've

422
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 4: talked about, who's done Princess Diaries, Cinderella, and also the

423
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 4: Cheetah Girls. So Mel worked with Deborah and that's how

424
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 4: I got introduced with Mel. And she's just amazing. She

425
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,360
Speaker 4: just she's the visionary. I swear she's just incredible.

426
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,399
Speaker 3: And she said, I really want to connect you with

427
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 3: Sabrina Brian who's going to have a movie coming out

428
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 3: called the Cheetah Girls. And went, how nice, thank you.

429
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:38,679
Speaker 3: Let me sign your book. But then we did an event.

430
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:43,159
Speaker 3: Do you remember this, Sabrina, Yes, limited to which was

431
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 3: between the stores that were in all the malls and

432
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,679
Speaker 3: all the raining and we did an event at Legal

433
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 3: Lands and it was a meet and greed and a concert.

434
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 4: Jessica Simpson and Nick Lache when they were together, performed

435
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 4: at it. Yeah, that was fun. That was that Lego Land,

436
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 4: so fun Lego Land.

437
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 3: So that's where I first met Sabrina. But what was

438
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 3: amazing was it was right after Cheetah Girls was aired.

439
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, like just a few months after.

440
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 3: I feel like, yes, very close after, and girls were

441
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 3: coming running up to Sabrina and asking for her autograph.

442
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 3: And I got to see and I you know, I joked,

443
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 3: I didn't mean you were immature, You've never been immature,

444
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 3: but you were maybe you were young and you handled

445
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,719
Speaker 3: it with such toys, and you were so kind and

446
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 3: generous to all of the fans that were coming up

447
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 3: and asking for your autograph, asking for Cheetah Girl stories.

448
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 3: It was it was adorable.

449
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 4: It was a really it was a fun, fun day,

450
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 4: and we sort of talked about like kind of and I,

451
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 4: you know, anything that I would ever want to write,

452
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 4: and I mean not trying to this is also should

453
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 4: be very inspirational in the sense of like I liked writing,

454
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 4: but I knew I wasn't super good, like in school,

455
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 4: I just wasn't wonderful at it. And it was amazing

456
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 4: to have her take my ideas in us and teach

457
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 4: me so much and work together. But where the Princess

458
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 4: of Gossip idea came from was that was back in

459
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 4: the day when my Space was huge, and that's just

460
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 4: really aged me. But my Space was big, and there

461
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 4: was I don't know if it was a girl or

462
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 4: a boy, but there was someone on MySpace that was

463
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 4: posing as me Adrian Keeley and Raven and they had

464
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 4: four different myspaces and they were like she would chat like,

465
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 4: hey girl, so fun, I loved that hat that you

466
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 4: wore the other day, Raven so cool, And then she'd

467
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 4: be like thanks babe, like kisses, and like it was

468
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 4: I found these pages and they're going back and forth

469
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 4: and it's not us, right, Like.

470
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 1: So wait, it wasn't supposed to be fake, like you

471
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 1: didn't they were. This person was actually claiming to be

472
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 1: the four of you.

473
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 4: Correct, Yeah, and would make announcements like We're going to

474
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 4: be at this mall at three thirty and all this stuff, right,

475
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 4: and had a lot of followers on it, and so

476
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 4: I kind of was telling her. I was like, this

477
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 4: would be such a cool idea. I mean, this is

478
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 4: talking about like cat fishing before casha was a thing,

479
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 4: and I'm like that just somebody kind of posing as

480
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 4: an influencer type situation that we now have. This was

481
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 4: before influencing and all that stuff. And it was like,

482
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 4: but how cool would it be if they actually got

483
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 4: into like events and we're able to like create this

484
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 4: actual alter ego and become kind of famous. But nobody

485
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 4: knows who she is. So that's where we started. And

486
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 4: then she's I mean she came back maybe a week

487
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,199
Speaker 4: later with just the full I got all these ideas

488
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh my gosh, yes, yes, yes, and

489
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 4: we just started bouncing and then the book kind of

490
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 4: just came to be and it was I love it.

491
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 4: I've just read it recently again. Just it's just so

492
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,959
Speaker 4: crazy to see how relevant it is now because of

493
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 4: influencers and stuff. Right, Like people actually have that as

494
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 4: a job. Literally, that's their soul income now is something

495
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 4: based off not based off of what you know. They

496
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 4: didn't get the idea for me, but that's kind of

497
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 4: what the book's about.

498
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 3: So but talking about vision, I mean, you had that choo,

499
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 3: so it's incredibly creative for ideas. Oh I remember you

500
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 3: had an idea about identical twins and one of them

501
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 3: was a ghost. That's always stuck my head.

502
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god, So one of the twins died during

503
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 1: birth or something.

504
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, well, because my grandmother was a set

505
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 4: of a twin and her twin passed away. And it's like,

506
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 4: what if that twin kind of came with you along

507
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 4: with your life. Like I've always been obsessed with twins.

508
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 4: I wish I was one. I prayed so hard that

509
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 4: I would have a set of twins. There's still time.

510
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 4: I just am obsessed with twins. I just love it.

511
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 4: So yeah, I would be like, what if I actually

512
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 4: did have a twin and she just was with me

513
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 4: all the time, but nobody knew.

514
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 3: Wow.

515
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of my best friends is a twin.

516
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: So he said, you're He said, you're born with a

517
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 1: friend or an enemy for life, period forever.

518
00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

519
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 3: I actually am an identical twin, are you?

520
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 4: She is? It's bonkers. I mean I do.

521
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: Friend or enemy for life, friend of me.

522
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 3: Some of the books behind me we co author. She's

523
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 3: also an author.

524
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 2: John Amazing.

525
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 1: My mom is an author and she co authors with

526
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: her sister, No, so the two of them partner together.

527
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: They do historical fiction novels.

528
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I would love to read those.

529
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: They're really cool. They're they're actually very very cool. The

530
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 1: first series of three is about a group of girls

531
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: who get involved with the Boston Tea Party and the

532
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: birth of the country. They become like spies for they've

533
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: become American spies, this group of like fifteen sixteen year

534
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: old girls.

535
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 2: It's really cool. Yeah.

536
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 1: The first one's called The Trouble with Tea. It's they're

537
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: they're really great. So yeah, so twins is that that's

538
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: a great idea.

539
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 2: I want to read that. But it's a great children's

540
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 2: story that's also such a d Coom right there.

541
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know it would be so cool.

542
00:26:55,600 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, kay, and Daniel is the parents they ant.

543
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, you mentioned stuck in the Suburbs because

544
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: we got to get back a little bit to dcom.

545
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: Other than Stuck in the Suburbs, what were some of

546
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: your other favorites?

547
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 3: Well, it was what was really fun was right before

548
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 3: read it and Weep was filmed in Salt Lake City.

549
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 3: We did the whole Little America. You know. The movie

550
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 3: that had just wrapped filming was High School Musical one.

551
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 2: Okay, wow, I.

552
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 3: Remember when you know they drive you back and forth

553
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 3: in the shuttles and golf courts and things, and they

554
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 3: kept saying, you don't understand who was in your room

555
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 3: before you You don't know who Zach Efron is, but

556
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 3: that was his hotel room vs. Yes, my daughter later

557
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 3: tells that story. You know, Oh, you could wait till

558
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 3: you find out what High School Musical and Vanessa Hudgins

559
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 3: so we got kind of a sneak preview of High

560
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 3: School Musical. So that was so exciting of course when

561
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 3: that came out. But of course, you know I love

562
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 3: the Cheetah girls. I mean I met Sabrino when like

563
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 3: right after they had the biggest premiere I think in history, right,

564
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 3: I mean exploded.

565
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 4: Yeah that at the time, Yes, it was, and it

566
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 4: was right when there was like a huge blackout in

567
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 4: New York, so we couldn't believe that. We all kind

568
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 4: of went dang, that sucks, like we just lost a

569
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 4: giant region of what the viewers would be and it

570
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 4: still broke the numbers of the time. So, I mean

571
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 4: it was pretty pretty awesome.

572
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 3: And then Rina invited me to Cheetah Girls concert. Great,

573
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 3: you have to see this, so if you're listening, I

574
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 3: will explain it to you. This is by Cheetah Girls,

575
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 3: One World awesome. Yes, sticker, Oh my gosh, I love that.

576
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 3: Youthing in my house I didn't have to go look for.

577
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 3: But so what a journey that was. I love to

578
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:57,959
Speaker 3: jump in.

579
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 2: We haven't done jump In yet.

580
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's with Corbin Blue. Yeah, and we haven't talked

581
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,479
Speaker 4: about you working with Paul Holan. We'll get there. But

582
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 4: he did jump in as well. And Cheatah and Cheetah

583
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 4: three One World.

584
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 3: Right, and that was my favorite. And then even recently

585
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 3: on my three of my very close friends had a

586
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 3: d com called Upside Down Magic made just wo maybe

587
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 3: two years ago, so that's new ones. That's super fun.

588
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 3: We kind of do that one, yes, because I did.

589
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 3: We were there at you know, such a golden moment

590
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 3: of d coms with cheetah girls and people and and everybody.

591
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: So that was really fun. And the Disney Channel games,

592
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 3: the whole era was so exciting, Jason, unless.

593
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 2: You're on the team. Apparently, according to Sabrina.

594
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 3: Oh, I tried cheering on the Yellow team. It was

595
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 3: you and Jason, Dolly. It was really hard. I think

596
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 3: defected Chi's team, but it.

597
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 4: Just gets worse.

598
00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 2: That's great.

599
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 4: That people noticed how bad we were.

600
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: Was there ever a talk of a sequel?

601
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 3: There wasn't, but there have been talks about other books

602
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 3: that I've written, and you know, and hopefully, you know,

603
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 3: I would love to have another d com. I loved

604
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 3: the experience. Paul hon and crew, everybody was you know,

605
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 3: so fabulous, and it was so fun watching the movie.

606
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 3: I watched it again this weekend. You know, I don't

607
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 3: sit and watch it like in a dark room, you know,

608
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 3: for Will and Sabrina this weekend, and I just it

609
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 3: made me so happy, you know, I loved it, so

610
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 3: I love writing in this space and if something you

611
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 3: know can be on the big screen.

612
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 4: Totally, I mean that is your prime like demo, inspiring

613
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 4: young kids and stuff with all of your books. So

614
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 4: I'm sure there'll be many more d coms in the future,

615
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 4: and especially since I know how easy you probably were,

616
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 4: just like hands off, you guys, do your thing. I

617
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 4: trust you. And I was really excited because you know,

618
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 4: I didn't reckon when it came out and I watched

619
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 4: it the first time back in the day, Paul Howen

620
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 4: wasn't a name that I was like super aware of.

621
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 4: And now what's amazing is I got to do the

622
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 4: third movie with him. He did your movie and he's

623
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 4: done a bunch other How was it for you with him? Like,

624
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,719
Speaker 4: how was that collaboration? I know how great Paul is,

625
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 4: so how was that for you? With working with him?

626
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 3: So cool? I mean I have to say I got to,

627
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 3: you know, work with and interact with both Gary marsh

628
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 3: and Paul Hohen. I mean, you know, it's legends. So

629
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 3: with Paul on the set, they took my daughter off

630
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 3: and they were swimming in the pool with her or

631
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 3: something for I don't know, something fun. And Paul took

632
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 3: me to lunch, so I got to know him over

633
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 3: lunch and I just thought that was amazing that, you know,

634
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 3: he would take the time to sit and talk to

635
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 3: me about everything. So he's just I mean, he's fabulous. Yeah,

636
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 3: he's so like you know Instagram stories.

637
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah.

638
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: Now you also because you you haven't an interesting story

639
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: in that you can show us both sides of something

640
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: that maybe a lot of people don't get a chance

641
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: to see. So not only did you have a DCM

642
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: that was very successful, but you also sold a pilot

643
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: to CBS.

644
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 3: I did, and it's very, very different than anything I'd written.

645
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 3: But you know, I'm a children's book author obviously, as

646
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 3: you know, I'm actually married to a terrorist and gang prosecutor.

647
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: Sheeesh, isn't that amazing?

648
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: Slight, the slight, the slight, the slight, balance of life,

649
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: I would say, the two sides of the coin.

650
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

651
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 3: So I would be, oh, no, I have to meet

652
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 3: my deadline. I don't know what my character, you know,

653
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 3: is going to what drama is going to happen to

654
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: my character? And my husband would be like, I'm going

655
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 3: to Iraq, I'm going to work on the Saddam Hussein trial,

656
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 3: so there was a definitect.

657
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: Wait, you're right, that's what Little Rosemary will do in

658
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: the book.

659
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: She will go to a terrorist ore goan to say, okay, wait,

660
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: that's not gonna work. Well, thank you.

661
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 4: That gonna work for a little.

662
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 3: Very His party stories are great. So of course, you know,

663
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 3: I've been writing steadily ever since have my Private Personal

664
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 3: Journal became a bestseller. It was actually my very first

665
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 3: novel that I wrote.

666
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 4: Wow, I didn't know that. Okay, I did write.

667
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,719
Speaker 3: Fiction before that, but that was my first fiction. So

668
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 3: ever since then, I've it's been steady and I've been

669
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 3: writing books, you know, hopefully to inspire and motivate kids

670
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 3: and teenagers and you know the people the growing ups

671
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 3: who like to read the books too. So when I

672
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 3: was talking to a producer friend of mine, and you know,

673
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 3: I said, yeah, my husband, she said, well, there's a

674
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 3: show right there. So what if the children's book authors

675
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 3: start solving the terrorists and gang prosecutors crimes.

676
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: Behind this great idea?

677
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 3: So it was pitched. CBS bought it, and it was

678
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 3: pitched to sort of been update to Moonlighting with a

679
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 3: very bantery husband and she gets into his business, which

680
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 3: in real life I do not because I'm squeamish. I've

681
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 3: learned the hard way not to look through his files

682
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 3: and things.

683
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I couldn't do it any.

684
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 3: But you know, we'll get made. I don't know, but

685
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 3: kind of a cool, cool thing. So that's my one

686
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 3: of a couple adult grown up projects.

687
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 2: That I that's really great. Well, so last question for you,

688
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 2: if that's all right.

689
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: I got to ask, of all of the ip that

690
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: you have, of all the books that you've written, if

691
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 1: you could pick one to become the next d com,

692
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: which one would you pick?

693
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 3: Man two?

694
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 2: Sure, you're the guest. You can do whatever you want.

695
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 4: Thank you.

696
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 3: Now I'm being high maintenance. Of course, is Princess of

697
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 3: Gossip or whatever. Sabrina and I were brainstorming how to

698
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 3: develop that into different media. No. I love working with Sabrina,

699
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 3: of course. And the other one. Thanks for asking. My

700
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 3: next book, Yeah, it's called Meet Me in Wonderland. This

701
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 3: is a mock up because it's not out yet and

702
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 3: it's a teen rom com that I wrote in you know,

703
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 3: keeping the old school d coms in mind. It's actually

704
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 3: inspired by my own high school job at Chuck E Cheese.

705
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 3: As Chuck E cheese.

706
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: You were chuck e chee, you were chucky.

707
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, thing I wouldn't admit for a long time,

708
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 3: but now it's out. The opening chapter takes place. The

709
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 3: girl is in a sweaty mascot costume, just like I

710
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 3: had to do me. She stumbles into the employee breakroom

711
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 3: to get some fresh air because you can just think

712
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 3: of the stench of s a sewer wrap costume. He

713
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 3: stumbles into the breakroom, she just like me, takes off

714
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 3: the head, your hair, staticky, your sweaty. You look and

715
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 3: you see the cutest boy you've ever seen in your

716
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 3: entire life sitting there for got his new job application.

717
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 3: Oh that happy and that really happened I in my

718
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 3: real life. I tried to shove the head back on

719
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 3: and back out of the room so he see me

720
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 3: in what she drips falls and you know, and a

721
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 3: whole dramatic meat cute ensues.

722
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 2: Did you date in real life? I have to know?

723
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 2: Did you date in real life?

724
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 4: You did?

725
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 2: Right?

726
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

727
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 4: He gets the guy.

728
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 3: You know I write about. I really want kids to

729
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 3: be validated that you can, you know, have these embarrassing moments.

730
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 3: Have I had a really rough middle school after having

731
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 3: a great you know, growing up childhood at a rough

732
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 3: middle school. And I think that's why it tappened too

733
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 3: that age group, because I want, you know, kids to

734
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 3: realize that you know, yes, you can be embarrassed, humiliated,

735
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 3: you can be bullied, all these terrible things you know

736
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 3: that kids go through in drama. But look at the

737
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 3: kind of things that can happen, you know, afterwards in life.

738
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 3: And also if it didn't happen to me, I wouldn't

739
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 3: have all this material to write about.

740
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: So right, exactly.

741
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 4: Totally, and you get through it, you know what I mean.

742
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 4: It's you know, when time is tough and and I

743
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 4: just that age is so hard. We stayed a lot

744
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 4: on on the podcast of these things that we see

745
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 4: in d com and it's like that comes where whoever

746
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 4: was writing it, that came from somewhere probably yeah, because

747
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 4: it is rough to go through such a hard time.

748
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 4: It's just being a teenager is not easy. It's you're

749
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 4: you're growing, You've got a little bit of independence, you

750
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 4: want to fight for more, you know, you're trying to

751
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 4: figure out how things are just working out whatever, and

752
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 4: but you get through it. You know, there is it,

753
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 4: there is another side take your learning lessons and well.

754
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: What's the old thing is it? Is it trauma plus

755
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: time equals comedy.

756
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I love that.

757
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 3: Love that.

758
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what happens. I mean, that's just how it is.

759
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: So you have to you have to flip it and

760
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: make it your own.

761
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 4: So totally.

762
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

763
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 4: I mean Will cracks me up because he talks about

764
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 4: how like he's like, oh, that just wasn't me. I

765
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 4: wasn't the cool guy. And I'm like, you were like

766
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 4: so many people's first crush. They're probably still crushing on you.

767
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 2: Like very sweet. No one I knew, very sweet.

768
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: No one believes you will your Well, it's true, it's true.

769
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: I didn't have a date on prom night, so I

770
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: ended up in the parking lot of a bowling alley

771
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: with a bunch of hippie kids and we couldn't even

772
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: rent shoes because they were wearing tivas with no socks,

773
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: and they wouldn't rent us the shoes because no one

774
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: had socks. That was my prom night. So yeah, I

775
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: promise you. Yeah, Trump time equals comedy. You could laugh

776
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 1: at it now your.

777
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 3: Face is plastered all over you know girls walls, and

778
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 3: yeahous weird.

779
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: Well, I'm I'm convinced it was just because the pictures

780
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: were load bearing in the house would have fallen down

781
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: without them. Oh, thank you so much for joining us.

782
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 2: This was awesome. Everybody, Please go out read all the books.

783
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: We've got, Princess of Gossip of course, which was also

784
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: written by our very own Sabrina Bryan, and your new

785
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: one coming out, Meet Me in Wonderland, which sounds incredible.

786
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: And then we've got the goat the original because it

787
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: was read it and weep on Disney. But it was

788
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: how my personal Journal became a bestseller?

789
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 3: Right, yes, and will on set they hadn't changed the

790
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 3: name yet to read it and weep, and I think

791
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 3: they finally gave up on trying to Danielle and Ca

792
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 3: actually gave me a mug afterwards with how my private

793
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 3: personal journal became a bestseller?

794
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 2: Love came here you go.

795
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 3: I think they just couldn't say it anymore, and honestly

796
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 3: neither could. I.

797
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: Well, please come back and join us again, and we

798
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: want to know all about the new book when it

799
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: comes out. And of course when that becomes a d com,

800
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 1: we'll uh we gotta watch that one too, So that's too.

801
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: Cool well and Sabrina. This was so much fun. Thank

802
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 3: you for thank you for coming.

803
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 4: It was so good seeing you again. I can't wait

804
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 4: till we can get together.

805
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 3: Can't wait.

806
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 2: I'm joining, I'm joining.

807
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 4: Yes, you're you're.

808
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 3: In, You're in the click now.

809
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm so excited.

810
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: I'm such a I'll get my cheetah chatter down and

811
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: my my all my read it and weep stuff and I'll.

812
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 3: Sell he won't zap you away from the lunch table, or.

813
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: Please don't flick me, or I will have a nutty.

814
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Thank you so much, bye, thank you.

815
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 2: By She is so sweet, isn't she the sweetest?

816
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 4: I just love her.

817
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: I can't you know.

818
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: The interview amazing, the book's incredible, the dcom wonderful. But

819
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm the thing I'm taking away from this is what

820
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: a great idea that is of yours of the twins

821
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: where one of them's a ghost.

822
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it'd be so cool. We're really trying

823
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 4: to like sess that out and figure out.

824
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: How to give a name to a title. There's got

825
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: to be a great title for that.

826
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 4: No, we haven't gotten to the title part. We're kind

827
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 4: of just still, we really do want to do something

828
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 4: with Princess of Gossip that's kind of where like where

829
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 4: can we take it, you know, whether it is something

830
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 4: like a d com or is it something we could

831
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 4: do on a podcasting type thing. And because there's just

832
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 4: so many adventures that that that main character could still

833
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 4: go on, sure continue, especially nowadays because it's actually very

834
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 4: relevant now.

835
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 3: It is.

836
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 2: It's almost answers in a way.

837
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: It's almost like Leonardo DiCaprio's movie Catch Me if you Can. Yeah,

838
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: but for for for more based on a you know,

839
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: the female side of it, where it's likely somebody who's

840
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: getting into all these cool events and is kind of

841
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: lying their way into everything, and yeah, the real kind

842
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: of question becomes who are they really?

843
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 2: Do they even know who they are exactly?

844
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 4: So yeah, where's the reality of life for them? And

845
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 4: I mean it all came from an actual fan of

846
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 4: the Cheetah Girl that I found and it was like

847
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 4: I can say I was catfish, but it was like

848
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 4: in such a the best way to be catfish because

849
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 4: it gets a safe way is safe way and there

850
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 4: was no harm being done, you know, she just whoever

851
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 4: it was, was just living this like idea of being

852
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 4: a cheetah girl and what that would be with friends.

853
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 4: So it was safe and and it was okay, I'm

854
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 4: not condoning catfishing, but.

855
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 1: No, of course not unless you're actually fishing for catfish,

856
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: in which case we can done that all day.

857
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: That's a healthy practice. Go get some catfish, but don't

858
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 2: do the other one. Yes, So thank you everybody so

859
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 2: much for joining us.

860
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: Thank you Julia de Villars for joining us. That was

861
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: such a fun conversation. And you can see how you

862
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: guys get along so well and seem to work together

863
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: so well, and we're hoping for big things from both

864
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: of you in the future. Join us over on the

865
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: other feed where we watch our next movie, because we

866
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: can't do this without you. You need to watch with us.

867
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: We're having so much fun and we will see you

868
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 1: next time. Bye everybody, Bye,