WEBVTT - The Mark Moss Show - Talking with Ella Moss

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone, Welcome to another episode of The Mark Moss Show

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<v Speaker 1>where we talk about bitcoin. We talk about the intersection

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<v Speaker 1>of politics, technology, and finance. We're talking about the decentralized

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<v Speaker 1>revolution that is changing the world as we speak. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, of course, that's bitcoin that is leading the charge.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the financial system, well, every system is changing

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<v Speaker 1>right now, as we know what. The world is changing

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<v Speaker 1>right before our very eyes. Lots of things about the

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<v Speaker 1>world are changing the way that we interact, um, you know, politics, socially, culturally,

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<v Speaker 1>um censoring you know speech. I mean, everything we know

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<v Speaker 1>is just changing. Of course, the financial system is changing.

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<v Speaker 1>And some of the biggest financial experts in the world

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<v Speaker 1>that I really respect. I mean I'm talking about Ray Dalio.

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<v Speaker 1>I just been reading his book The Changing New World Order. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an amazing book. I highly recommend it. And he

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<v Speaker 1>charts history. Of course, if you listen to the show

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<v Speaker 1>on a regular basis, you know I'm a history buff.

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<v Speaker 1>He charts the course of history. And these financial markets

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<v Speaker 1>Zoltan pos Are. If you're in the financial world, you

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<v Speaker 1>might know who that name is. He's been nailing this

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<v Speaker 1>transition to this new financial system as well. But what

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<v Speaker 1>both of them are missing. And I hate to say

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<v Speaker 1>that because these guys have forgot more information than I'll

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<v Speaker 1>probably ever know in my life. Uh. They're both giants,

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<v Speaker 1>and I recommend that you listen to what they're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>But glaringly missing is that neither one of them talks

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<v Speaker 1>about technology. And when we look through thousands of years

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<v Speaker 1>of history, what we see is that it's technology that

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<v Speaker 1>changes the world, right, not politics, Uh, not social cultural issues, um,

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<v Speaker 1>not even the money. Money is a cycle, and Radialio

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<v Speaker 1>highlights that very well, that it's the cycle that repeats

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<v Speaker 1>over and over and over. But it's technology that changes everything.

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<v Speaker 1>And both of those uh financial giants will call them

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<v Speaker 1>intellectual giants, completely miss that. And so I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the intersection of UM technology where it connects to finance

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<v Speaker 1>and of course political issues, and so when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at all three of those together, it brings everything into

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<v Speaker 1>context and what's happening today now, I just got back

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<v Speaker 1>from one of the largest conferences in the world to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that. Specifically, it was the Bitcoin conference I've

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<v Speaker 1>been talking about on this channel for the last several weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>You've probably been hearing me telling you about it. UM

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<v Speaker 1>to buy your ticket and things like that, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I want to give you UM an insider's perspective of

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<v Speaker 1>what happened at the largest bitcoin conference, the largest cryptocurrency conference,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe one of the largest conferences in the world. There

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<v Speaker 1>was about they're expecting about thirty thousand people there. It

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty massive, and I was a speaker on the

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<v Speaker 1>main stage, I worked on the news desk. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>give you all that, but let's just say that I

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<v Speaker 1>had behind the scenes access to all the biggest events,

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<v Speaker 1>all the best speakers, all the best parties, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna give you an insider's perspective on that. But before

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<v Speaker 1>we do that, I wanted to do something else, and

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<v Speaker 1>so UM one of the things that I found over

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<v Speaker 1>and over and over at the Bitcoin conference was all

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<v Speaker 1>these speakers kept talking about we gotta push adoption, we

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<v Speaker 1>gotta push adoption, we gotta push adoption. And I said,

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<v Speaker 1>my my unpopular opinion is that we don't. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to push adoption, UM, because we don't need mass adoption.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point. People will come in when they need it,

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<v Speaker 1>but that we don't need to push for that. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And so an example of that would be UM in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineties, there was no such thing as cell phones really,

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<v Speaker 1>but there was some Wall Street traders and investors that

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of money, and they had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of money writing on their every move, and so they

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<v Speaker 1>were able to spend a lot of money to build

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<v Speaker 1>a mobile phone. And it was like a big old

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<v Speaker 1>box right at the probably fifty dollars or whatever for

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<v Speaker 1>this big old box of a phone. And they got

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<v Speaker 1>those phones because they needed them. They had an urgent

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<v Speaker 1>need for that um technology. But we didn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>push for mainstream adoption for phones. We didn't need the

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<v Speaker 1>whole world everyone needs a phone. Go, everyone got the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>We we didn't need to do that. They needed it,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a need for it, and then buy them.

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<v Speaker 1>Pioneering that and spending that money. Then eventually we got

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<v Speaker 1>phones for um I don't know, forty thousand and thirty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and twenty thousand and five thousand, and eventually now

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<v Speaker 1>they're down to where everybody can afford them. And then

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<v Speaker 1>everyone in the United States got a phone, which then

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<v Speaker 1>made them cheap enough, which then people in Africa were

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<v Speaker 1>able to get phones, and so we don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>push for adoption. Uh. And there's and That's one of

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<v Speaker 1>these why not everybody needs at the beginning. The other

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<v Speaker 1>reason why is as I kind of made the case

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<v Speaker 1>when I was working at the event, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get into some of the inside details, some of the

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<v Speaker 1>juicy details, like I said, of of of an inside

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<v Speaker 1>of the parties and the speakers and whatnot. But another

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I was saying is that, um, something like

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't look it up a forehead, but something like

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<v Speaker 1>Americans today don't even have four hundred dollars saved up

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<v Speaker 1>for an emergency expense. They don't even have that for savings.

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<v Speaker 1>Those people, they don't need to worry about bitcoin or cryptocurrency.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to push those people to adopt bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>or cryptocurrency. They're not even saving, they have nothing. Those

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<v Speaker 1>people should be focused on making more money. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>they should be focused on. How can they make more money,

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<v Speaker 1>How can they cut their expenses, how can they get

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<v Speaker 1>to a point where they're saving. And then at that

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<v Speaker 1>point when they're saving money, then of course, hey, do

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<v Speaker 1>you understand what's happening to your savings? They're losing value

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<v Speaker 1>every year. Maybe you should buy bitcoin, cryptocind everything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But those people don't need to worry about So My

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<v Speaker 1>point is we don't need to push for adoption. Um

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<v Speaker 1>it's in marketing. We would say that it's much easier

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<v Speaker 1>to sell food to someone who's starving then to first

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<v Speaker 1>convince them that they're starving and then try to sell

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<v Speaker 1>them food. If someone was drowning in a lake and

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<v Speaker 1>there was a floatation device right next to them, I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have to convince them why they should grab that

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<v Speaker 1>flotation device. They would just know the urgency would be

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<v Speaker 1>so high that they would just grab it. And so again,

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<v Speaker 1>at some point, everybody will know why they need it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to convince people today why they need it.

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<v Speaker 1>In Venezuela, where the currency is blowing up by tent

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<v Speaker 1>literally you have to get paid multiple times a day

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<v Speaker 1>to go buy your goods because prices are going up

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<v Speaker 1>so fast, you don't have to convince them why they

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<v Speaker 1>need to put their money into something else. They already know.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were in Canada a couple of weeks ago

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<v Speaker 1>or a month ago, when people's bank accounts were getting

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<v Speaker 1>frozen and they're being kicked out of the financial system,

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't have to go convince them why they should

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<v Speaker 1>get out of that money. They already knew the urgency

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't high enough, and so we don't need to push

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<v Speaker 1>UH for um mass adoption. Everybody will come in at

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<v Speaker 1>the point when they feel the urgency to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I also say that, like, I'm a big

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<v Speaker 1>believer in chiropractic. I've gone to chiropractic most of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it, I believe in it. But even for

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<v Speaker 1>someone like me who believes it, and I know a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of you are thinking I'm crazy and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe it, and that's okay, UM, But even for someone

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<v Speaker 1>like me who does, I typically don't go and tell

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<v Speaker 1>them in pain. And that's that urgency part that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. UM. And so in bitcoin we might say

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<v Speaker 1>that everybody will buy at the price they deserve, and

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<v Speaker 1>so you cannot buy today, and that's fine. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to convince you of that, UM. But at some

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<v Speaker 1>point you're going to see that sense of urgency. At

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<v Speaker 1>some point you're gonna realize like, oh shoot, I need

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<v Speaker 1>to do something, and you'll just have to pay at

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<v Speaker 1>that price. And some of you will catch on sooner

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<v Speaker 1>because you're paying attention, UM, because you see opportunities or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it may be. UM, and you can get in

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<v Speaker 1>at a lower price. UM. And that's just how it is,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not it's not mean, it's just the way

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<v Speaker 1>it is now. Of course, I'm doing my part um

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<v Speaker 1>here each and every week trying to explain this to

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<v Speaker 1>you so you don't get left behind, so you can

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<v Speaker 1>buy in earlier than everybody else. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>if you haven't already, make sure to bookmark this day

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<v Speaker 1>and time to join me each and every week. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not driving, pull at your phone, put a

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<v Speaker 1>calendar reminder to join me on this channel at this

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<v Speaker 1>time each and every week, so I can explain to

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<v Speaker 1>you what's going on with bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in this

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<v Speaker 1>decentral revolution. Because everybody will get in at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just at what point are you going to get in?

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<v Speaker 1>And so UM. With investing, we always have to have

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<v Speaker 1>an edge. If you don't have an edge with investing,

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm sorry. If you don't know what your edge

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<v Speaker 1>is with investing, that means you don't have one. And

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<v Speaker 1>so if you have information that most people don't have,

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<v Speaker 1>like if you listen to me each and every week

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<v Speaker 1>and you have that information, then you'll have an edge.

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<v Speaker 1>Now to illustrate this, I'm going to UM bring on

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<v Speaker 1>a special guest, and I want to bring on a

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<v Speaker 1>special guest, very special guests. I'm talking about my daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>La Moss, and she just turned thirteen. She's in middle school,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to find out, UM, what people in

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<v Speaker 1>middle school have been taught about money, UM, and what

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<v Speaker 1>they think about bitcoin, and we'll start to see what

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<v Speaker 1>this urgency is like. UM. So I want to ask

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<v Speaker 1>her some questions. He's super embarrassed, but everyone's gonna welcome

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<v Speaker 1>her and give her a good reception. Here in a second.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, you're listening to the Mark ma Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, we're talking about bitcoin, cryptocurrencies, the decentralized revolution.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about the intersection of politics, finance, and technology,

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<v Speaker 1>so we can put everything that we're seeing in the

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<v Speaker 1>world into context today so we can navigate it correctly.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, everyone's going to get in eventually, but

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<v Speaker 1>at the price they deserve, and I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>get in earlier. That's why I'm trying to give you the

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<v Speaker 1>the information that you need. I'm gonna be back with her, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk about that for a couple of minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we're gonna say it. Like I said, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk to the I'm gonna give you the behind

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<v Speaker 1>the scenes access to the Bitcoin conference. Um, you can

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<v Speaker 1>only get it here. Don't go away, I'll bear it back.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Welcome back. You're listening to the Mark Mass Show,

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<v Speaker 1>where we're talking about bitcoin and cryptocurrencies and the decentralized

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<v Speaker 1>revolution the world is going through. Talking about the intersection

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<v Speaker 1>of politics, technology, and finance. You have to understand all three.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't just focus on politics or just finance because

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<v Speaker 1>you won't understand the greater context of what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>and of course how you should navigate through that. I

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<v Speaker 1>told you before the break that I want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you about what happened at world's largest bitcoin meeting

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<v Speaker 1>last week in Miami. I'm talking about the Bitcoin Conference.

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<v Speaker 1>About thirty thousand people were there. I was there as

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<v Speaker 1>an insider, as a speaker on the main stage. I

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<v Speaker 1>got access to everything behind the scenes, including the parties

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<v Speaker 1>and the meetings and so forth. I want to give

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<v Speaker 1>you the nitty gritty details that only I got access to,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna share them with you. Don't worry about

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<v Speaker 1>that before we do. I got a special guest with

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<v Speaker 1>me here. I'm talking about my daughter, La Moss. Hey, Ella,

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<v Speaker 1>so Ell has never been on the radio before. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>she's a little bit of afraid. That's okay, no one's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be mean to her. And I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>bring her on. She's here, and uh, just let's get

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<v Speaker 1>a let's get a middle schoolers perspective. Now. Henry Ford

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<v Speaker 1>said over a hundred years ago that if the American

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<v Speaker 1>people knew how the banking system worked, there would be

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<v Speaker 1>a revolution before the morning. Now there's a reason why

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<v Speaker 1>nobody knows how the money system works, and that's because

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want you to know, because there would be

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<v Speaker 1>a revolution before the morning. So Ella, first thing I

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<v Speaker 1>would ask you is, um, do you know what money is? Yes? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So what is money? Money is a way of paying

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<v Speaker 1>for things, a way to pay for things. So we

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<v Speaker 1>call money like a medium of exchange. So you're exchanging

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<v Speaker 1>the money for the good or service that you want. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And then if you wanted to sell something, like if

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<v Speaker 1>you if you had like some old clothes or like

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<v Speaker 1>your old bicycle, you want to sell what, you would

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<v Speaker 1>sell it for money? So you're exchanging that thing for money.

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<v Speaker 1>So money is a medium of exchange. Have you noticed

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<v Speaker 1>that the prices of everything seems to be getting very expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything's going higher and higher and higher. You've noticed that.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, you just pay with my credit card, so

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<v Speaker 1>you don't really notice it, but you see it. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know why the prices of everything are going

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<v Speaker 1>so high? Right now? Um? Yeah? Um? The people running it?

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<v Speaker 1>And also what's it called supply and demand? Supply demand?

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<v Speaker 1>Now she has a little bit of a head start

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<v Speaker 1>because she's my daughter and she hears me talk about

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<v Speaker 1>these things sometimes. Of course, every time I try and

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it at at the kitchen table, she rolls

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<v Speaker 1>her eyes and says, ah, Dad, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>hear it anymore. Um, supplying demand. So what is supplying demand?

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's the people that want to buy things and

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<v Speaker 1>there's not enough, so it goes higher up in price.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that was not really good explanation. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you have more people wanting to buy something than

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<v Speaker 1>there are things available, So if there was ten people

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<v Speaker 1>trying to buy one house, what would happen? The price

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<v Speaker 1>would go higher, The price of the house would go higher,

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<v Speaker 1>why because more people want it? Okay, what if there

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<v Speaker 1>was ten houses for sale but only one buyer, the

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<v Speaker 1>prices would go down. The prices would go down. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's supply and demand. So you can listen to these

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<v Speaker 1>economists and they can make this super complex about the

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<v Speaker 1>financial system and the interest rates and the yield curve controls,

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<v Speaker 1>and they can talk about the bond rates and all

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<v Speaker 1>these things, but just know that all prices are always

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<v Speaker 1>going to be driven by supply and demand. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>if supply and demand is driving prices and the prices

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<v Speaker 1>of things are going higher than what's happening, it's going

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<v Speaker 1>the prices going on there's more demand than there are prices,

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<v Speaker 1>right or goods, goods and services, so, um, the things

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<v Speaker 1>that you want to buy, your your new bicycle that

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<v Speaker 1>we got you, or the food that you went and

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<v Speaker 1>got earlier this morning, they got more expensive because we

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<v Speaker 1>have more people wanting to buy those things than there

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<v Speaker 1>are of those things available. Right now. We can get

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<v Speaker 1>we can get complicated. So why are there not enough

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<v Speaker 1>of those things? Well, there's a bunch of reasons, and

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<v Speaker 1>so they can say, well, it's about supply chains, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the problem. They can't get enough goods and services to us. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but but why we used to get enough goods and services.

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<v Speaker 1>Why not today? Well, that's because we have more demand

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<v Speaker 1>than we used to have. And why do we have

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<v Speaker 1>more demand, Well, because they printed a bunch of money.

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<v Speaker 1>So back to supply and demand. If they if we

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<v Speaker 1>have a limited amount of money, that money is has

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<v Speaker 1>a certain value. But if they print way more money,

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<v Speaker 1>what happens value? Oh, look at that. See it went

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<v Speaker 1>down in value. So it's not that prices are getting

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<v Speaker 1>more expensive. It's that our money is losing value. Even

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<v Speaker 1>even a thirteen year old got that. So it's not

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<v Speaker 1>that things are getting more expensive. Is that our money

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<v Speaker 1>is losing value and that's why it takes more dollars

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<v Speaker 1>to buy those things. Now, let me ask you a

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<v Speaker 1>simple question. Um, you've done a pretty good job of

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<v Speaker 1>saving money. I think it's in your wallet's stuck stuck

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<v Speaker 1>in my safe somewhere. Right, would you rather that money

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<v Speaker 1>that you have saved up? Would you rather that money

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<v Speaker 1>buy you more goods and services in the future or less? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd rather to have it more? Right? You don't want less? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want less, right, And I would think everybody

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<v Speaker 1>would want their money that they've been working and saving

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<v Speaker 1>for their whole life, and so at some point you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna want to retire on your savings. You would want

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<v Speaker 1>that to buy you more goods and services. Simple. But

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<v Speaker 1>if they keep printing more money and the money keeps

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<v Speaker 1>losing its value, then that money is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>worth it's going to buy you less goods and services.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what you want right now. Um, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of guys over in Washington, d C. They decide

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<v Speaker 1>if they want to print more money, and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have any say over it. They just print as much

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<v Speaker 1>as they want whenever they want, and they put it

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<v Speaker 1>in their own bank accounts and they get to buy

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<v Speaker 1>whatever they want with it. Does that seem fair? So

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<v Speaker 1>these guys can artificial They can just print more money

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<v Speaker 1>whenever they want. They can go buy whatever stuff they

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<v Speaker 1>want with that money they gave themselves. But when they

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<v Speaker 1>did that, it made all your money that you have

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<v Speaker 1>saved in my safe buy less goods and services. So

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<v Speaker 1>they stole you're purchasing power, or they stole money from you,

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<v Speaker 1>and they bought stuff with the money they stole from you.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that sound fair? If you could, would you want

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<v Speaker 1>to change that? What would you want to do? Like

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<v Speaker 1>make it where they couldn't do that? Yeah, and some

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<v Speaker 1>money stays the same word. Yeah, and they didn't just

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<v Speaker 1>steal it by printing more and going and spending stuff. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think if if the average people understood that

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<v Speaker 1>guys in Washington and Critical print a bunch of money

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<v Speaker 1>and buy a bunch of things for themselves and that

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<v Speaker 1>literally stole money out of your safe, they'd be okay

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<v Speaker 1>with that? They wouldn't, would they? That goes back to

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<v Speaker 1>the quote, like I said, Henry Ford said, if people

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<v Speaker 1>understood how it worked, there would be a revolution, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you'd want to change that? Right? Like do you think

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<v Speaker 1>it's crazy that they don't teach you that in school? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>What do they teach you about money in school? Not

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. Have they hught you anything about money? Not

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<v Speaker 1>really like anything at all. Have you learned about like

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<v Speaker 1>the history of money? No, so nothing you can think of. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well there you heard it. You heard it from a

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<v Speaker 1>middle school. So this is someone that's growing up in

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<v Speaker 1>a middle school there, in middle school in junior high

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what they know. So that's a little illustration

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<v Speaker 1>and That kind of goes back to why we're not

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<v Speaker 1>pushing from mainstream adoption. Most people have no idea they

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<v Speaker 1>we don't. We have first let them know there's a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>So back to trying to convince someone they're starving. First,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd have to first convince Ella that is she's starving.

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<v Speaker 1>Convince her that there's this massive problem with the financial system.

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<v Speaker 1>And then maybe if she gets that, then maybe she'd

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<v Speaker 1>be willing to find the solution. Right, And that's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>where right, and that's why we're not trying to push

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<v Speaker 1>for mainstream adoption. However, you are listening to me right now,

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<v Speaker 1>so you have this head start and so you're getting

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<v Speaker 1>this And that is back to what I said earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>That is your edge. You have a chance to front

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<v Speaker 1>run Most people like Ella are older than Ella, but

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<v Speaker 1>have never learned about the financial system. Now, um, hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>that made sense, and I just wanted to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>bring that in. She's here in the studio with me

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<v Speaker 1>today and coming back from the Bitcoin conference, that was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the big takeaways that I had. Now coming back,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go back and I'm gonna tell you about

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<v Speaker 1>the parties. I'm gonna tell you about the late night parties.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you about what happened behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 1>backstage in the speaker room, who I got to meet,

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<v Speaker 1>and so much more. Don't go away, I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>right back, all right, Welcome back. You are listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the Mark Moa Show. We're talking about bitcoin. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about cryptocurrencies. We're talking about the decentralized revolution. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the intersection of politics, finance, and technology, how they

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<v Speaker 1>all three come together and create this massive change into

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<v Speaker 1>what we are seeing right now. Before the break, I

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<v Speaker 1>talked about I was talking about some of this. Just

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<v Speaker 1>got back from the Bitcoin Conference, the largest bitcoin kind

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<v Speaker 1>of cryptocurrency gathering in the world. There was about thirty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand people that showed up in Miami, Florida. I did

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<v Speaker 1>broadcast live from there last week with a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>interviews with some people that I had grabbed from around

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<v Speaker 1>the conference. Hopefully enjoyed that, UM and I want to

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<v Speaker 1>give you some of the behind the scenes takes that

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<v Speaker 1>I had. As I said before the break, I was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about why they was just everyone was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this big push. We have to have this push, push push.

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<v Speaker 1>We need mainstream adoption and I said, well, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>really and one of the reasons why we don't need

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<v Speaker 1>it is because most people have no idea that why

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<v Speaker 1>we would even need it. And so I just had

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter on lamas just to kind of show you

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<v Speaker 1>what what a junior hire knows about money. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is someone who who lives in my house and listens

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<v Speaker 1>to me talk all the time and has read and

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<v Speaker 1>watched many videos. Um, and that's still where she's at.

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<v Speaker 1>So just imagine that the rest of the kids probably

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<v Speaker 1>sekew a little bit less than that. I guess was

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<v Speaker 1>my guest. But um, act to the bigcoin conference. So

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<v Speaker 1>um yeah, the largest crowd, right, like I said, about

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<v Speaker 1>thirty thousand people. Was was pretty amazing to be there. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what's interesting about going there is that, you know, what

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<v Speaker 1>mainstream media wants to tell us today is that we

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<v Speaker 1>align on identity identity politics. You're black, you're white, you're Mexican,

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<v Speaker 1>your woman, your male, your whatever sex you are. Your

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<v Speaker 1>preference is this, you're gay, y're straight, whatever? Right, um,

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<v Speaker 1>your religion, this religion, that whatever, And they wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>divide us into all these different identities. Identity politics is

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<v Speaker 1>what we call it, and that's wrong. It's not the

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<v Speaker 1>way that the world works. It's not the way that

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<v Speaker 1>we identify. It's not the way that we align. We

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<v Speaker 1>align on shared values. That's what we align in. Now

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<v Speaker 1>when we at try to try to divide people by identities,

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<v Speaker 1>the problem is is that we're lots of things. So like, um, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I belong in the Mail group. Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>also belong in the California group. Can I belong in

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<v Speaker 1>the mail and the California group at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also a surfer? Do I also align in the

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<v Speaker 1>surfer group? So now I'm a surfer and I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>California emin a mail So which one do I belong in? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>And so we start trying to like break people up,

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<v Speaker 1>but like I can belong to multiple different identities at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time. And so what really happens is we

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<v Speaker 1>align based off of values. And then values would be

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<v Speaker 1>things like I value freedom. For example, I value UM, honesty,

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<v Speaker 1>I value transparency. I value these types of things. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I value UM those things. And then the higher those

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<v Speaker 1>values are, then um, the stronger that alliance can be.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would consider myself, what I say, a freedom maximalist.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm maximizing for freedom, and I want to align with

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<v Speaker 1>other people that are freedom maximalists. If you're somebody who,

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<v Speaker 1>um wants to be a little mini authoritarian and you

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<v Speaker 1>want to tell people what they should do, what they

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<v Speaker 1>can and can't do, but then you and I probably

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<v Speaker 1>aren't going to align very well. We're probably not going

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<v Speaker 1>to have very good conversations. We're not going to agree

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<v Speaker 1>on things. And so what we see at the Bitcoin conference,

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<v Speaker 1>we have twenty people there all aligning on shared values.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're all different races and sexes and religions and

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<v Speaker 1>preferences and everything you're gonna imagine, but it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the identities that matter. They're all aligning on

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<v Speaker 1>shared values of freedom, of monetary independence, on progress, on innovation,

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<v Speaker 1>things like that, and so, UM, what you get is

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<v Speaker 1>this like electricity in the air. I mean, everybody that

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<v Speaker 1>you meet is just like somebody that you can connect

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<v Speaker 1>with and like your friends with and like you you

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<v Speaker 1>can have these deep conversations and it's just like it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like electricity. I mean, just walking around, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>awesome and you feel that. Um. And the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>that we noticed is that with bitcoin specifically, not crypto.

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<v Speaker 1>So I say bitcoin here, not crypto. And then then

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why is because what happens with bitcoin is that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>it changes you. Anyone who's been around bitcoin long enough

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<v Speaker 1>knows that bitcoin changes you. And I spent a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of time talking about this, partically at the at the

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<v Speaker 1>event last week. Why why does bitcoin change you? How

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<v Speaker 1>does it change you? Well, I think the biggest thing

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<v Speaker 1>is is that bitcoin changes your time preference. So you

0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:52.960
<v Speaker 1>can have a high time preference or a low time preference. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>think about it like your long your your long term perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>So unfortunately, the way most people are in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the United State dates and maybe even the world today

0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:05.480
<v Speaker 1>are our high time preference. They want instant gratification. If

0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't get rich quick, if I don't see instant results,

0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:11.760
<v Speaker 1>if I don't get what I want now right, well

0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:15.719
<v Speaker 1>have this instant gratification. The problem is that in life,

0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:19.000
<v Speaker 1>I hate to break it to you, but nothing good

0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:22.439
<v Speaker 1>comes quickly, nothing good comes easy. All the best things

0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:26.440
<v Speaker 1>require you to wait, to work hard, and things like that.

0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:30.159
<v Speaker 1>And so, um, what bitcoin does is it changes that

0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:32.639
<v Speaker 1>type preference to a low time preference. I mean I

0:23:32.640 --> 0:23:34.800
<v Speaker 1>don't prefer time that much. It's very low. I have

0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:37.960
<v Speaker 1>a long term perspective. So now I don't need to

0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:40.120
<v Speaker 1>get rich by tonight. I just want to make sure

0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:42.680
<v Speaker 1>that I have enough money to retire on right. Um,

0:23:42.720 --> 0:23:45.439
<v Speaker 1>I can eat a healthy diet because I know that

0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:46.879
<v Speaker 1>it's going to keep me healthy over the long term.

0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:49.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to get like some lose weight quick

0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:53.199
<v Speaker 1>you know scheme or something like that. And so what

0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:55.960
<v Speaker 1>happens is what you see with bitcoiners is because they

0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:57.960
<v Speaker 1>have this long term perspective. And the reason why I

0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:01.160
<v Speaker 1>say that is people get into cryptocurrent see just how

0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:03.520
<v Speaker 1>rich can I get? How much money? What's the next

0:24:03.560 --> 0:24:06.240
<v Speaker 1>hot cryptocurrency? Mark the reason why I'm tuning indio so

0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:07.920
<v Speaker 1>you can tell me about cryptocurrency to buy. What's the

0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:09.919
<v Speaker 1>next one? Is? Is it another dog coin or some

0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:12.359
<v Speaker 1>meme coin. I want to make twenty times my money

0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:15.480
<v Speaker 1>in two weeks. If I don't make in two weeks,

0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:18.400
<v Speaker 1>that I'm out right, it's it's a scam. But people

0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:21.040
<v Speaker 1>don't come into bitcoin for that, right and you understand

0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:24.800
<v Speaker 1>that like bitcoin is at whatever forty thousand today, it

0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:27.400
<v Speaker 1>will probably be at a million dollars in the next decade.

0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:30.840
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty damn good. The stock markets were turned about

0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:33.840
<v Speaker 1>eight percent over the last whatever sixty eight years, six

0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:37.199
<v Speaker 1>or eight percent. So if I can get a thirty X,

0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:40.520
<v Speaker 1>that's amazing, and I gotta wait ten years, that's pretty

0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:42.600
<v Speaker 1>dann good. But no crypto guys want to make that

0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:45.840
<v Speaker 1>in two weeks. And so what happens is most bitcoiners

0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:47.679
<v Speaker 1>come in, it changes their time preference. And when that

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:52.720
<v Speaker 1>starts to happen, they start to see lots of other things. So, um,

0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:55.000
<v Speaker 1>it's that, And it's also people that have been able

0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:59.959
<v Speaker 1>to put enough time in to understand everything they've been

0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:03.640
<v Speaker 1>told isn't necessarily true or right. And so then they

0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:07.040
<v Speaker 1>start to question other things like, well, if I've been

0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 1>misled or lied to about money, what else have I

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:14.840
<v Speaker 1>been lied and misled to? What about my health? The

0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:17.040
<v Speaker 1>f d A tells me that I should eat seven

0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:19.919
<v Speaker 1>servings of grains per day? Is that true? Well you

0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:21.880
<v Speaker 1>quickly find out that's not. As a matter of fact,

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:24.160
<v Speaker 1>you take the FDA food pyramid. You should actually flip

0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:27.000
<v Speaker 1>that upside down. You should actually do the opposite of

0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:30.239
<v Speaker 1>what they tell you. Um, everything the medical system has

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:34.359
<v Speaker 1>told me, it's mostly wrong. Um, everything that these relationships

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:37.640
<v Speaker 1>people have told me it's mostly wrong, and you start

0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:41.520
<v Speaker 1>to question everything. It's like cognitive dissidence. Um, if I

0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:43.399
<v Speaker 1>believe this to be true, then everything else I know

0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:45.879
<v Speaker 1>has to change is not true. And so then you

0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:48.000
<v Speaker 1>have this long term time preference, and so you start

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:50.440
<v Speaker 1>thinking about your health. So most of the bitcoiners are

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:52.960
<v Speaker 1>really health conscious. A lot of them are carnivores. They

0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:55.399
<v Speaker 1>just eat meat only, diets. Um. A lot of them

0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 1>think about savings, think about building. A lot of them

0:25:57.640 --> 0:25:59.879
<v Speaker 1>have very good relationships. And you start start to see this.

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:03.280
<v Speaker 1>They're not spending flashy money on Lamborghinis and Ferraris and

0:26:03.320 --> 0:26:06.480
<v Speaker 1>all these types of things. They're saving their building, they're growing,

0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:10.640
<v Speaker 1>they're building farms, they're building food, they're building businesses. They're

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:13.639
<v Speaker 1>having a bunch of kids, right, things like that. Um.

0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:16.840
<v Speaker 1>And then crypto crypto people is a little bit difference.

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna and the reason why I'm setting that

0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:19.720
<v Speaker 1>up is because I'm gonna talk about some of these

0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:21.600
<v Speaker 1>parties that I went to. So I went to a

0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:23.720
<v Speaker 1>lot of parties. Um. In life, they say, it's not

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:27.000
<v Speaker 1>who you know, it's actually who knows you. And because

0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:28.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm on the radio and I have a big YouTube

0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:30.639
<v Speaker 1>channel and whatnot. A lot of people know me and

0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I get invited to all the best parties. I got

0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:36.160
<v Speaker 1>invited away more parties than I could go to. UM,

0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't wanna tell you about some of the parties.

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I know you wanna know about that. I'm gonna tell you,

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:40.200
<v Speaker 1>like I said, about the behind the scenes, some of

0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:43.520
<v Speaker 1>the people I met, some of the politicians I met, UM,

0:26:43.560 --> 0:26:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to tell you more about the parties and

0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:47.320
<v Speaker 1>some of the big announcements that came out. So don't

0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 1>go away. I'm gonna be right back. All right, welcome back.

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:52.720
<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Mark Moa Show. We're talking

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:57.000
<v Speaker 1>about bitcoin and cryptocurrency and the decentralized revolution. We're talking

0:26:57.040 --> 0:27:02.320
<v Speaker 1>about the intersection of politics, technology, and finance all coming

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:04.600
<v Speaker 1>together to change the world as we speak. And so

0:27:04.920 --> 0:27:06.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about the Bitcoin conference. I just got back.

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I was there for eight days in Miami, Florida, and

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 1>it was it was big, and it was the intersection

0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:16.960
<v Speaker 1>of those things. Politics. There was lots of politicians there. UM.

0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Some of the more notable ones was Cynthia Loomas, Senator

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:23.920
<v Speaker 1>from Wyoming. She was there talking UM. She is a

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:28.000
<v Speaker 1>very big proponent of of bitcoin. We but we also

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:31.720
<v Speaker 1>had politicians for other countries. So we had dignitaries from

0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 1>El Salvador from Mexico. I gotta even hang out with

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:39.159
<v Speaker 1>Prince Philip, who's the Princess Serbia was there. Um, So

0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 1>we had we had politicians and dignitaries from the United

0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:44.159
<v Speaker 1>States and all over the world were there. It was

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:46.000
<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. I was gonna talk to you about some

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:49.199
<v Speaker 1>of these parties I went to. So most of these

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 1>bitcoin parties are bitcoiners that have these long term perspectives.

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:55.720
<v Speaker 1>And so the first night I was there, Um, Lawrence

0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:57.919
<v Speaker 1>Lepard had had a kind of a big dinner with

0:27:57.960 --> 0:28:00.399
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of bitcoiners. He's been on the radio show before,

0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:03.320
<v Speaker 1>and so, uh, there was fifteen twenty I don't know

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:06.560
<v Speaker 1>twenty five people and we ate steak, big little steak.

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:08.399
<v Speaker 1>That's what bitcoin is like, That's what I like. I

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 1>try to eat as much steak as I possibly can. Um.

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:14.359
<v Speaker 1>And then the next day we're at investor meetings. All

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:18.199
<v Speaker 1>day I was at UH. I'm a senior advisor for

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:22.439
<v Speaker 1>a venture capital fund called Trammel Venture Partners t v P,

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 1>and we only invest into companies that are building on bitcoin,

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:29.639
<v Speaker 1>and that was pretty amazing. UM seeing all the companies

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:31.199
<v Speaker 1>that we've been investing in to come and do their

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:34.280
<v Speaker 1>product demos. You could not believe the technologies that are

0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:36.680
<v Speaker 1>being built on bitcoin. If you aren't paying attention. A

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 1>lot of times people think bitcoin's old technology and all

0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 1>the all the tech is being built on cryptocurrency and

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 1>all coins, and that's just not true. The stuff that's

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 1>being built on bitcoin would blow your mind. One of

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 1>the biggest most anticipated releases is one called Impervious Um.

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 1>It's a company that is going to blow your mind.

0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:56.960
<v Speaker 1>It's a new browser, so like a Google browser for example,

0:28:56.960 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>like a Google Chrome browser, but it has everything built in.

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:04.400
<v Speaker 1>So you have Zoom but without Zoom. What does that mean, Well,

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to use a company like Zoom or

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 1>a company like Google Meat. I can just go video

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 1>peer to peer between me and the other person without

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 1>somebody in the middle trying to stop that block out

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 1>the prevented or spy on me. We have Chat and

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 1>I can do chat peer to peer from person to

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:22.200
<v Speaker 1>person without having to go through Google servers. I can

0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:24.840
<v Speaker 1>use Google like it has like a Google Docs built in,

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:27.720
<v Speaker 1>except for Google doesn't have access to it. They can't

0:29:27.720 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 1>spy on me, they can't watch it. It's my docs,

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 1>and I can share them directly peer to peer with

0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 1>another person. It's pretty amazing what Impervious is doing. I

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 1>think there's gonna be a full score release here in

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 1>a couple weeks, pretty amazing. A bunch of more technologies

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:40.320
<v Speaker 1>that were coming out, that's pretty cool. Then then I

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 1>got to go to, uh see the ambassador of El Salvador.

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:46.160
<v Speaker 1>So a lot of you guys that don't know or

0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 1>you should know by now, that El Salvador was the

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 1>first country to make bitcoin legal tender. The president of

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 1>El Salvadore was supposed to be there at the conference.

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 1>He didn't end up making it, but the ambassador was there.

0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:56.480
<v Speaker 1>I got to go to a little private function with

0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 1>with her. I meet her. That was pretty cool. And

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:03.160
<v Speaker 1>then um, I Heart Media had a party with Galaxy Digital.

0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 1>And Galaxy Digital is a cryptocurrency fund, not a bitcoin fund,

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 1>a cryptocurrency fund, and it was amazing to see this

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 1>glaring difference of going from like this bitcoin venture fund

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 1>all day and then going to a crypto fund. And remember,

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:20.560
<v Speaker 1>the bitcoiners have this like long term time perspective, so

0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 1>they're they're investing their money. They're building real things, and

0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Crypto was like all flash. And we went to this

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 1>party and it was like a hundred people were there

0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 1>and they had this DJ that's that played for eighty

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 1>five thousand people like the week before, and he was

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 1>here playing for like a hundred people. So they probably

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:36.840
<v Speaker 1>paid all kinds of crazy money. You know, these are

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 1>the beautiful people wearing their expensive outfits and they probably

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:43.600
<v Speaker 1>drove there in their Lamborghinis and whatever. And just what

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 1>a glaring difference. Like we were eating steak before and

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 1>here we are there, We're getting like little orders of

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 1>like lobster bisku or something right, like just like little

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:54.680
<v Speaker 1>mouth little bites. Um. And it was just, uh, the

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:57.480
<v Speaker 1>glaring difference of having going from one to the other.

0:30:58.200 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 1>It was pretty interesting. But she it out to iHeart

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Media and Galaxy for putting that on. And then let's

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 1>see what else did we do? Um. Well, one of

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 1>my good friends, Robert breedlove how to sit down private

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 1>function with Jordan Peterson. And if you don't know Jordan Peterson,

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 1>and then I don't know where the heck you've been

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:19.320
<v Speaker 1>living in this world? Uh, he's I would have to say,

0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:23.080
<v Speaker 1>he's probably the smartest intellectual alive today in my opinion,

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 1>and um, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to quantify that. If you're not

0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 1>listening to Jordan Peterson, you should be check them out

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube. But they they sat down and they talked

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 1>about things from a first principles level, so understanding what

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 1>we call a priori truth. These are things that are

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 1>known to be true. And they built on this conversation.

0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:44.640
<v Speaker 1>It was amazing. Um. And then we hung out and

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 1>it was like all these bitcoiners there and Robert Breedlove

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:49.480
<v Speaker 1>and Jordan Peterson hanging out. And then I left there

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:50.840
<v Speaker 1>and I went to this other party that was put

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 1>on by Jim and I and it was at this

0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 1>uh at this mansion on this island, and very exclusive island.

0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 1>You have to have a go through a gate just

0:31:57.560 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>to get on the island. And and again I get there,

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 1>like a hundred people out the side, and it's like

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 1>the most beautiful people you've ever seen, like the beautiful

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>girls and guys dressed up. I'm like, oh man, where

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 1>the heck am? I And I go in and like

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 1>these DJ spinning and like all these ice sculptures and bars,

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:15.479
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, where am I at? This is crazy?

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 1>This is like pure fiat. That's what we call. It's like,

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 1>it's like pure fiat. And uh, luckily I was able

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 1>to find some people I knew when we kind of

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 1>had this little private area. Um. It was a pretty

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:30.680
<v Speaker 1>crazy party. But again, just this glaring difference of bitcoin.

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 1>And I don't want to say the bitcoinners are no fun.

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 1>It's just just a different story. Um. But it was

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 1>an amazing time. I tried to take it easy because

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 1>like eight days, they're talking to thousands of people, shaking

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 1>thousands of hands. Um. I did a book launch. Um,

0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:46.680
<v Speaker 1>so for those you guys that don't know, I launched

0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:50.160
<v Speaker 1>a book at the Bitcoin conference. Is called the Uncommunist Manifesto.

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 1>You can check it out at Uncommunist dot com. We

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:55.560
<v Speaker 1>got about I think five or six more days left

0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 1>of our kickstarter campaign if you want to check that

0:32:57.320 --> 0:33:00.200
<v Speaker 1>out and support it Uncommunist dot com. But at at

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 1>the Bitcoin Conference a couple two days I did book

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 1>signings there was pretty awesome. And then I told you

0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I worked the news desk, so I gotta work that

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:12.960
<v Speaker 1>with Mr wonderful Kevenal area was pretty awesome. Alex Gladstein,

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<v Speaker 1>who runs the Human Rights Foundation. We talked about how

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin is solving human rights issues around the world, like

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<v Speaker 1>North Korea, like in Tongo, UM, you know, all throughout Africa, UM, Lebanon,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. Was pretty amazing. I gotta share the news

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<v Speaker 1>desk with Andrew Yang, former presidential candidate. UM was pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Um man, so much happened there, let's see. Oh and

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<v Speaker 1>some big announcements. One of the biggest announcements. And again

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<v Speaker 1>people think that bitcoin is old technology, it's too slow,

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<v Speaker 1>it can't be used for payments. Um, it's only good

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<v Speaker 1>for store of value. But again they don't understand what

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<v Speaker 1>they're talking about. And so a big announcement was made

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<v Speaker 1>with Strike and Strike uses what's called Layer two, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's allows bitcoin to be transferred almost at the speed

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<v Speaker 1>of light and almost for free, and so you can

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<v Speaker 1>actually transfer bitcoin faster and cheaper than another cryptocurrency. And

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<v Speaker 1>they announced that they just made it a partnership with Shopify.

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<v Speaker 1>So now all Shopify stores, when you go to check out,

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<v Speaker 1>you can choose credit card like you could choose PayPal,

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<v Speaker 1>and now you can choose bitcoin right there. All the

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<v Speaker 1>Shopify stores that they announce the partnership with that And

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<v Speaker 1>I was in cr I believe, which is the largest

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<v Speaker 1>payment processor for stores. So stores use like a POS

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<v Speaker 1>a point of sale terminal to run your credit card,

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<v Speaker 1>and this company runs one out of every six payment

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<v Speaker 1>terminals in the country and they will all now be

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<v Speaker 1>accepting bitcoin um using this lightning rail. And so that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>So expect to see that happening very very quickly. About

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<v Speaker 1>one in six stores will now be accepting bitcoin completely

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<v Speaker 1>bypassing the entire dollar payment network. Pretty amazing to see

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<v Speaker 1>that happen. So remember, with the new technology, we're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at two things, right, We're looking at user growth, the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of users on the network are they growing and

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<v Speaker 1>the development that's happening on the network. And so um

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<v Speaker 1>the Bitcoin conference two years ago or three years ago had,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a few thousand people. Last year was ten

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<v Speaker 1>thousand people. This year was thirty thousand people. So the

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<v Speaker 1>rate of users is growing so fast it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>even comprehend. And the development happening is so fast that

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<v Speaker 1>now it was announced that all shopify stores and one

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<v Speaker 1>in six retail stores with a credit card terminal will

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<v Speaker 1>now be accepting bitcoin. Not x y Z crypto, not ethereum,

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<v Speaker 1>not x RP, not Cardano, not fill in the blank,

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<v Speaker 1>but using bitcoin. Pretty amazing time at the Bitcoin conference.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully you enjoyed some of that behind the scenes stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Um check out my Instagram at one Mark Moss you

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<v Speaker 1>can see some of my stories and photos and some

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. And of course said follow me on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter as well at one Mark Moss and check out

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<v Speaker 1>the book Uncommunist dot com. Like I said, we still

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<v Speaker 1>got a few more days left in the launch if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to support that. But this space is growing

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone's gonna get in at the price they deserve.

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<v Speaker 1>You can either get in now and front run everybody else,

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<v Speaker 1>or you can wait until you're starving or drowning like

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<v Speaker 1>my analogy, and grab it. Then that's what I got

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<v Speaker 1>here today. Thanks for listening, See you next time.