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Speaker 3: Welcome to the twenty twenty three Patriots Unfiltered Draft Show,

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Speaker 4: Did everybody quick, you pick one guy, one player?

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Speaker 5: You gotta find off on it. That's what the Patriots

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Speaker 5: are taking it.

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Speaker 6: Fourteen Christian Gonzalez. I'm gonna take Christian gonzalas too.

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Speaker 2: Going to be with us book, I think, okay, just

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Speaker 2: like Witherspoon better. I'm saying it's going to be. It

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Speaker 2: is going to be withersbook. I worry about your use

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Speaker 2: of the word shop. They went shock. What does that mean?

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Speaker 6: I afraided guys.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so the guys on the chop they didn't they

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Speaker 2: didn't try.

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Speaker 6: J Carter, I mean, if I haven't seen anybody, I've

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Speaker 6: seen it a few times now.

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Speaker 2: Confirms the pick is in for Eagles. Paul, you got

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Speaker 2: a tip the Eagles? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Oh, Bear's pick is in. Oh.

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Speaker 7: I love this offensive tax Charnell Right, all right, Tennessee, Right.

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Speaker 8: Chicago, Chicago, Alright, Tennessee.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna need you to listen what Evan just talked about.

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Speaker 6: Right about two minutes.

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Speaker 2: I was just I just had to go to the bathroom. Sat.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for taking you, Mike. We did I do?

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Speaker 2: I do?

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Speaker 2: I didn't. I'm although I could have got an electric shoot.

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Speaker 3: But this is the twenty twenty three Patriots Unfiltered Draft Show,

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Speaker 3: presented by Aristocrat Game.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered, the twenty twenty three

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Speaker 2: Draft Extravaganza. We are here in the bowels of Gillette

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Speaker 2: Stadium while the team, the football part of the team,

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Speaker 2: and three tonight. We are gonna be here from seven

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Speaker 2: o'clock until ten o'clock live, covering everything we can during

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Speaker 2: then per league rules, will be just going to audio

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Speaker 2: from eight to ten. But it's Mike, So, it's Evan Lazarre,

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Speaker 2: It's Paul Perowell, myself, Matt Morel, and Matt Lapan in

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Speaker 6: Maybe Christian Gonzalez.

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Speaker 2: We might even we might hear from Christian Gonzalez later

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Speaker 2: in the show. But so let's let's get right into it.

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Speaker 2: Patriots took Christian Gonzalez yesterday consensus. I haven't heard anyone.

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Speaker 2: I mean some have tried to you know, you know,

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Speaker 2: Christian Gonzales. Christian Gonzalez is one of the highest rated cornerbacks,

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Speaker 7: I'm happy, yeah, to be honest, I got home last

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, eight five five Pats five hundred is

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Speaker 2: the ace ticket Hutline web radio at Patriots dot com

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Speaker 7: Him, yeah, you know, and they grabbed Anton Harrison right no, sorry,

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Speaker 7: Breer just saying that that George's Darnell Washington might have

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Speaker 8: So that's just always so crazy to me when a

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Speaker 8: where was the medical issue a couple of months ago?

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Speaker 7: Maybe maybe somebody's getting out there because they want them

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Speaker 2: Sometimes isn't even like a physical thing. Well, a lot

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Speaker 7: But do you think it's some of these guys, like

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. No, Yeah, so.

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Speaker 6: Something to think about.

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Speaker 7: But I still think tackles on the board, I would

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Speaker 6: But I think now, I wait a little bit. I

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Speaker 8: Guy, Matthew Bergron nor Blake Freeland.

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Speaker 6: Guy that that's kind of inexperienced. Does he know have

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Speaker 6: different opinions, like really polarizing kind of yeah, like do

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Speaker 8: A true right tackle, which I don't know, I'm not

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Speaker 6: I think I would rather go with a better player

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Speaker 8: I Lovedwan Jones. Every time I watched him, I was like,

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Speaker 8: as clear as day with him. So if they like

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Speaker 7: To maybe that's why I'm well, And that's and that's

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Speaker 2: It's not his skill set, it's his attitude you're not

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that it's hard to have like a

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Speaker 7: I would just say, what consistency due the injury to

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Speaker 7: I just wonder what their what their philosophy is on

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Speaker 7: And you know, it's just I think that's what's hard

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Speaker 6: Do they think we're just gonna keep trying on the

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Speaker 7: And you know, I traditionally, I think you think you'll

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Speaker 2: So the pick is in for Pittsburgh. Do we have

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Speaker 6: Joey Porter June they.

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Speaker 8: Drafted drafted the Sun.

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Speaker 6: I thought that, you know why not? Right?

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Speaker 2: That's that's very Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, family place.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that they would do.

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Speaker 6: I gotta talk to Tom about that.

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Speaker 2: So Joey Porter Jr. Off the board a cornerback. Uh,

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Speaker 2: that's good for the Patriots. So maybe you know, whoever

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Speaker 8: Took a tackle in the first round, so I think.

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Speaker 6: They try to get away.

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Speaker 7: I mean they, I mean they should probably get the

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Speaker 7: two guys Mike and Evan.

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Speaker 6: If the Patriots were to be trading up, you know,

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Speaker 7: I would say, yeah, Mayor Washington, I think those are

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Speaker 7: we got a solid player. We got a solid player.

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Speaker 7: He's gonna be a third tight end this year. He's

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Speaker 7: Or Joe Thomas? Now like those two hold offensive linemen.

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Speaker 6: Now's like funny how those offensive linemen they either go

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Speaker 7: Who were we just saying and Drewsy the other night,

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Speaker 6: Who's gonna be nice? He went the other way? I said,

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Speaker 2: I would you know what, I think I'd like to

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Speaker 7: I And that was the next point I was going

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Speaker 7: out edge still, you know, I think there's definitely some

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Speaker 2: But you're not going to get well unless you get

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I wouldn't sleep on Josh Downs. Yeah, Josh Downs

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Speaker 6: I think he's.

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Speaker 8: Ninety percent, maybe eighty five percent of what Jay Flowers

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Speaker 8: I think he's a true Number one guy. No, but

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Speaker 8: So I wouldn't be surprised if he's the pick. If

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Speaker 8: Darnel Washington has medical red flags and that's that report

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 8: Mayor I think is basically Hunter Henry, but can block

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Speaker 8: the only tight end in this group that is something different,

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Speaker 8: So some of these other guys in the third and

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Speaker 2: If you did get a Mayor and you brought in Kasiki,

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Speaker 8: I just don't even know what you get for him?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean for a conditional sixth Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 6: I'm not making fun of Hunter, but those that's what

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I don't know, like you throw him

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Speaker 6: about you know, this this replicated. We talked about Dalton

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Speaker 8: I think a guy like Mayor is is probably the

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Speaker 8: But even guys a little bit later, like a zach

440
00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,000
Speaker 8: Kunz who just destroyed the combine a couple of months ago,

441
00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,280
Speaker 8: like that guy has some athletic untapped potential that he

442
00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,040
Speaker 8: could become something really special in the league. So I

443
00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,520
Speaker 8: just wonder if that's part of the equation. You know

444
00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,239
Speaker 8: that you kind of already have the steady guys, you

445
00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,760
Speaker 8: already have the reliable guys. You need somebody that's a

446
00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:36,320
Speaker 8: game changer.

447
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,760
Speaker 6: Is a trade, but it's not who we hoped for.

448
00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a first trade. Today Titans are moving up

449
00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:46,439
Speaker 2: into the Cardinals second spot of the third round. So

450
00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:48,080
Speaker 2: is this Levis?

451
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:49,040
Speaker 8: This could be Les?

452
00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh boy, yeah, little boy.

453
00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,480
Speaker 6: But you know, I find interesting I would say too, though.

454
00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,960
Speaker 7: I mean, I think Evan had some good points about Mayor,

455
00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,280
Speaker 7: and part of me can't help, But wonder, like, do

456
00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,359
Speaker 7: you wait a little longer for laporta schoon maker?

457
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,240
Speaker 6: You know? I mean, I don't know exactly how to

458
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:05,720
Speaker 6: flush all those out, but there.

459
00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,760
Speaker 7: Is some intrigues still with those guys who are maybe

460
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 7: just a little bit.

461
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,119
Speaker 8: I just think if you're counting on Hunter, Henry and

462
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,479
Speaker 8: Gasiki for this year, those are the guys that you're

463
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,000
Speaker 8: rolling with for the twenty twenty three. Then get a

464
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,240
Speaker 8: developmental guy with some upside and Mayor is a guy

465
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 8: that should play right away yea, but isn't really a

466
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 8: game changer.

467
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:24,160
Speaker 6: I don't think.

468
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,719
Speaker 8: I think he's a really well rounded, solid tight end.

469
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,080
Speaker 8: I compared him to TJ. Hockinson, which like good player,

470
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,440
Speaker 8: but is he really an elite? You know, we got

471
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,800
Speaker 8: to worry about TJ. Hockinson when we come into the

472
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 8: game plan meetings and things like that. So I don't

473
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,280
Speaker 8: think I would rather take a flyer on a more

474
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,199
Speaker 8: athletic upside type of prospect that we know we're going

475
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,119
Speaker 8: to give him a year or two to develop behind

476
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 8: the veterans anyways, especially.

477
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 7: Where it's like you can just put him out there

478
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,239
Speaker 7: in a package you don't really have to worry about, Hey,

479
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 7: you're gonna have to go, you know, help block on

480
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 7: the edge, Like just yeah, get him out there and

481
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,440
Speaker 7: let him play, you know, move tight end. And there's

482
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 7: a lot of those guys that have some intrigue. I

483
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 7: think that that's a suitable kind of alternate to trying

484
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 7: to get that slot guy. You know, just somebody in

485
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 7: the middle of the field that can work for.

486
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 6: It's another one of your things where it's just if

487
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 6: Tennessee's moving up and we got to assume it's Levis,

488
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,199
Speaker 6: that's another pick that helps the papers. I mean, I know,

489
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 6: we're still another player that the Yeah we're still third interest. Yeah,

490
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 6: we're still thirteen picks away. Yeah, so they go.

491
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 8: They traded seventy two and a twenty twenty fourth third,

492
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 8: which is basically the equivalent of a fourth this year.

493
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 8: So right now we're still in that territory where you

494
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 8: have to give up a third and the fourth to.

495
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,679
Speaker 6: But they also got a third back. They switched spots.

496
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 8: Okay, I see, all right, so that's not that that

497
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 8: bad that now you could probably do it for those

498
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 8: two fourth round picks at this point.

499
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, they swapped. It looks like they switched spots in

500
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 6: the second and third rounds and picked up a twenty twenty.

501
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 6: Surely not much at all.

502
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that is it Levis.

503
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 6: I would assume I didn't. I haven't seen it. Yes

504
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 6: it is Levis, I just yeah.

505
00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 7: Yes, Chefter and rapaport, will Levis Levi's is.

506
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 6: A tight ten. So some interesting things.

507
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 7: Then going on the AFC South with some new some

508
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 7: new quarterbacks down there, it'll be interesting.

509
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 2: Okay. Well, like Paul said, this is another player the

510
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 2: Patriots wouldn't be interested in. So it pushes it pushes those.

511
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 6: I don't think they would have drafted.

512
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,880
Speaker 2: It pushes those guys down that they would be interested

513
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 2: in closer to where they're picking. So that's good.

514
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 7: I just think we're all waiting for the tight end

515
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 7: train to start, you know, like who's gonna take mayor

516
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 7: who's gonna you know, Brian Branch I just yeah, I mean,

517
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,959
Speaker 7: I mean we're still a long way away from the Patriots.

518
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 7: It's like twelve to thirteen picks though, but like you

519
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 7: mean from a general point of view or a Patriots

520
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,959
Speaker 7: point well, Patriots as a mccordy replacement.

521
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 6: But just as a good football player.

522
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's no question he's a good football player. I

523
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,239
Speaker 7: just I just think he's Dugger. I mean, I think

524
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 7: he's going to play that role, and you know, I

525
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 7: think he'd be great at it.

526
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 6: He might be better than Dugger at it.

527
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 7: Are you ready to make that that switch?

528
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 6: I don't know that's I.

529
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 8: Think he's got the instincts to play a little bit

530
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 8: more on the back end. I don't know if he's

531
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 8: a true center fielder. I don't know if he's got

532
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 8: the rain and the speed to do that. But he's

533
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 8: definitely got instincts to play a deep safety or free

534
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 8: safety a little bit. He's a really good player and

535
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 8: probably has some of the best film of any of

536
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 8: these prospects. And you know, saban Is, I'm sure raving

537
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 8: about him to teams just because you can tell how

538
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 8: much he put on him mentally, right, you know, all

539
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 8: the roles, all the different assignments and things like.

540
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 2: Say, you know, he would be a mccordy replace.

541
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,919
Speaker 8: Yeah, I definitely think that he's one hundred and ten

542
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 8: percent of fit. And if you put him in that

543
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 8: secondary and you grew re sign Kyle Duggar and you

544
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 8: have Christian Gonzales there now and the two young Joneses,

545
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 8: I mean, that's a secondary and that's a group right there.

546
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 6: If they do that, you know, defense in general, but

547
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,360
Speaker 6: if they did it with Branch in particular, that's kind

548
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 6: of the answer to the question that Mike Evan and

549
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 6: I were batting around during our podcast with the Draft

550
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 6: podcast about you know, what do you do to try

551
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 6: to Oh, Will Levis at Patriots training camp?

552
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, with a Brady jersey.

553
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 6: That's that's a cute picture. The the the whole notion

554
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 6: of you know, how do you go about trying to

555
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 6: compete in the a f C and the new supercharged

556
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,479
Speaker 6: AFC East, but the AFC in general. And everybody's like, well,

557
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 6: you got to have some firepower to keep up, and

558
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 6: Bill says, noope, you know, we need to try to

559
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 6: figure out a way to slow him down.

560
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, I'm interested how they how this all AFC

561
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 7: is going to play out. Trevor Lawrence is, you know,

562
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 7: kind of established himself last year, but you have you know,

563
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 7: three three teams.

564
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 6: I don't, I don't know you.

565
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 7: I mean, do you think Levis is going to play

566
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 7: for Tennessee this year?

567
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 10: Is this?

568
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 6: I think he'll play this year? I don't think he'll probably,

569
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 6: I don't think he'll play out of the gate. Yeah

570
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 6: I think so, I mean it will be there something interesting.

571
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 7: I just I wonder who how do you feel if

572
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 7: you're Houston, Indie?

573
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 6: You know, and and uh Jacksonville. Sorry not Jacksonville the

574
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 6: other the other AFC South team. Sorry I'm getting a

575
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 6: little fright here. They don't say much of Milike Willis

576
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 6: by the way. Yeah, I mean he played last year

577
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 6: and to the point where they got like Josh Dobbs

578
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 6: off of someone's practice squad to play what in essence,

579
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 6: I'm outed to a playoff game there. He's more competitive

580
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 6: than they were with Malki. And then the Detroit Lions

581
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 6: like Sam.

582
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 8: That's my guy.

583
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, so maybe that starts your your tight interest to

584
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 6: start it.

585
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 8: But Laporta over Mayor, so I was almost right. I

586
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,959
Speaker 8: had Laporta as the second rated tight end the class.

587
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 8: I had Mayor is number one, in Kincaid is three.

588
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 8: So the league ended up seeing it as Kincaid one,

589
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 8: Laporta two. But at least these teams did based off this.

590
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 8: So it's interesting but interesting.

591
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 6: Jeffords Detroit probably their best pick so far.

592
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 7: Very weird draft, you know, yeah, But offense, I mean

593
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 7: they're trying to trying to put those pieces in place.

594
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 7: I mean, they definitely have some some weaponry that they're

595
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 7: that they're building there.

596
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 8: It seems like the Troit gives two s is about

597
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 8: positional value in the draft. They draft a running back,

598
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 8: an inside linebacker, and a tight end with their first

599
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 8: three picks. The Nerds are going crazy somewhere.

600
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 2: So now the Colts are on the board. What they say,

601
00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 2: their first pick was Tony Richardson, So we'll see what.

602
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 7: Tony the old Kansas City Chiefs full back Tony richards So.

603
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 2: We'll see what they do with their second pick. Could

604
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 2: be a tight end, I mean makes it right?

605
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it And this this could start it now.

606
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 7: I mean we've got the Colts on the clock here

607
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 7: after a Laporta went to the Lions.

608
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 6: So they have Moelie Cox. Yeah, yeah, they could go

609
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 6: with one for sure.

610
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 7: I mean another you talk about another, you know, team

611
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 7: with a rookie quarterback trying to put pieces around him,

612
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 7: trying to you know, be successful. I mean i'd consider

613
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 7: Down sir too, if I were them.

614
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 6: We have a trade. Yeah, and it's the Raiders disappointment

615
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 6: in it.

616
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 2: The Raiders have moved into the Colts spot.

617
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 6: I don't hate them, so I don't want to like

618
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 6: It's not necessarily something I'm worthy of. But I don't

619
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 6: like Josh Downs as much as you guys do. That's okay,

620
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 6: He was kind of like there's a lot of production there,

621
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 6: but not a lot of There's a lot of catches there,

622
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 6: but not as much. I don't think.

623
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 7: I think that's just about every receipt as much.

624
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're probably right. It's just I'm probably looking at

625
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 6: it like, you know, where's the like the dynamic element,

626
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 6: and I don't really see a lot of that. That's

627
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 6: probably true. It's probably like just looking at the class

628
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 6: in general, and I'm like, yeah, he's okay, he's okay,

629
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 6: Like that.

630
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 8: Is much more crafty than he is explosive.

631
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know what I wrote for him was

632
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 6: that his floor is very high. Like I don't think

633
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 6: he'll be one of these guys you're like, oh my god,

634
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 6: Nikhil Harry, he can't play Like No, I think he's

635
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 6: just like kind of a quote unquote safe pick. I

636
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 6: kind of like the kid from Cincinnati, Tyler Scott. Yeah, yeah, fast,

637
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 6: like you know, kind of similar.

638
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 7: I mean, I listen, I don't know, but I mean

639
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 7: I think I hate when I get into that because

640
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 7: I'm not I don't pretend to be a scout. I

641
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 7: don't know it, but I just think all that you

642
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 7: can have, you know.

643
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 6: Like a Tyler Scott where he got a positive for

644
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 6: long speed and deep speed and maybe.

645
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 7: The ability to stretch the field a little bit from

646
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 7: the slot. But you know, size, like I mean, this

647
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 7: is all these a lot of these guys. It's a

648
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 7: size issue where they're all I.

649
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 8: Know, concerns about them developing a player like Tyler Scott,

650
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 8: because right now he is an athlete that just outruns

651
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 8: everybody on a football field. And once you get to

652
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 8: the pros, you're gonna have to learn how to set

653
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 8: guys up and how to get off press man and

654
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 8: how to you know, be a little bit more crafty

655
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 8: in your route running. And they just haven't really shown

656
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 8: very many signs of being able to develop that type

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Speaker 8: of player.

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Speaker 2: All right, the Raiders are on the clock. Good time

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Speaker 3: This is the twenty twenty three Patriots Unfiltered Draft Show

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Speaker 2: All right back here and Patriots Unfiltered the Draft Extravaganza

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Speaker 2: here until ten o'clock. And the Raiders have just chosen

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Speaker 2: a tight end.

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Speaker 6: Somewhere in England. Claire is having I really have a

678
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 6: heart palpitations every single time.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I gotta I gotta Sam Laporte, and I'll probably

680
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Speaker 8: get a Michael Mayer.

681
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 2: Michael Michael Mayer is the pick for the Raiders. A

682
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: good pick. I think they get themselves a good player.

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Speaker 6: Solid.

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Speaker 7: If it feels like a Josh move, you know, I

685
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 7: mean it's it's he's a good He's a good player.

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Speaker 6: Mark Andrews, I don't like that. Com He's not that good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah really.

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Speaker 6: T J.

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Speaker 8: Hockinson can block, can move around a little bit, good receiver,

690
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Speaker 8: I've also another comp I really liked for him was

691
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 8: Hunter Henry, but a better inline blocker. That that's a

692
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Speaker 8: I think from a receiving perspective, really similar movement. It's

693
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Speaker 8: not like a burner, not somebody that just pops off

694
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Speaker 8: like the film at you that is this dynamic athlete,

695
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 8: but somebody that can get open, is crafty, good hands.

696
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Speaker 7: Like they have to know that their tight ends couldn't

697
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 7: block last year, right Like It's just like it was

698
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 7: such a struggle even to me to watch them, you know,

699
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 7: try to try to do that. I thought they improved.

700
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 7: I mean, but even they talked about, you know, it

701
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 7: was just a challenge.

702
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 6: And I hate saying, like.

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00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 7: Man, I just wish they had that third blocking tight end,

704
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 7: like that would be the difference.

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Speaker 6: But it's just such a glaring kind of.

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00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:20,239
Speaker 7: A you know what we need right here here, We

707
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 7: need a blocking tight end.

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Speaker 6: We needlock the draft. But it's such like a role

709
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Speaker 6: that I would feel like that they as football guys,

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00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 6: would see as important and just you know, and not

711
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Speaker 6: having to use a third tackle somebody at least who

712
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 6: can have a little bit of a threat at least

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Speaker 6: to go out in pass.

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Speaker 2: You know, our next make They didn't have a pick

715
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Speaker 2: in the first round, right, they did.

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Speaker 6: Not, so they don't believe. Don't believe the ROMs.

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00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 2: The Rams are up.

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Speaker 8: The Rams have taken a kind of tippet.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Steve Avila, the guard from TCU, good, good, solid player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I like.

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Speaker 6: I like how it's going for the Pats though.

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Speaker 8: I love that the Rams have no picks and then

724
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 8: they're taking guards with their with their only pick.

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Speaker 6: Well, they wanted cold strange last year, Evan, and they

726
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 6: didn't get them. I finally got it because their guy.

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Speaker 8: God, thank god, we are ever moved from that.

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Speaker 6: Right right, I was just gonna say yeah with a

729
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Speaker 6: Super Bowl title and that was not strange. Now they

730
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Speaker 6: have Steve Wieler on their roster.

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Speaker 2: Good for them, I got all right, So that hasn't

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Speaker 2: been announced yet. But after that is the Seahawks, who

733
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: were very active in the first round.

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Speaker 6: Fly Seahawks, I got. I gotta have to consult the

735
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Speaker 6: board here because I'm starting to run out of like,

736
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,719
Speaker 6: off the top of my head, who's available. I need

737
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 6: to That's why I made to run down some of

738
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Speaker 6: the top the top hundred.

739
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 2: Brian Branch, we talked about them. You like Drew Sanders,

740
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Speaker 2: linebacker out of Arkansas.

741
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Speaker 6: I do like him, but I wouldn't pick them.

742
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: How about Luke Muskgrave.

743
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 6: Evan doesn't like them. I kind of like yeah, Mike,

744
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 6: and I like him a little bit. Evan does not

745
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 6: want one trick pone.

746
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: We talked about Darnell Washington. You guys like him. How

747
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 2: about Jaylen Hyatt, the wide receiver.

748
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 6: Evan hates the big guy Evan. Evan hates Hi almost

749
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 6: as much as he.

750
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Speaker 8: Hates wouldn't touch him with a ten foot poles.

751
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 2: This next guy is the guy that I I might

752
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Speaker 2: be interested in taking bj edge guy out of l

753
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Speaker 2: s U.

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Speaker 8: Talk about a guy with some hands man, That guy's

755
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Speaker 8: got them cornerback.

756
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Speaker 2: They probably won't take Kali Ringo out of Georgia.

757
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 6: Now corners are off.

758
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: Uh, there's a guard Osyrus Torrance.

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Speaker 6: He's good. He's one of the higher guys I have.

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Speaker 8: He's one of their guys to like, one of those

761
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 8: power right guard, gigantic human beings.

762
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Speaker 2: Another front seven guy, Trent and Simpson out of Clemson

763
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Speaker 2: Nope linebacker.

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Speaker 8: Week side linebacker.

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Speaker 2: In A four three, we talked about Josh Downs out

766
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Speaker 2: of North Carolina. People like him. Uh DJ Turner another

767
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Speaker 2: cornerback out of Michigan, Fast Joe Tipman Center out of Wisconsin.

768
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Speaker 2: I mean, just getting up.

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Speaker 8: There, Timmans kind of their type. He's that, you know,

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Speaker 8: he's a Wisconsin tough type of guy.

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Speaker 6: That's the guy I brought up and I couldn't remember.

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Speaker 6: I told you I couldn't remember his name. But the

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Speaker 6: Wisconsin guy that he don't trust the center, now that

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00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 6: would kill Everyone's.

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Speaker 8: About Cody Mouk, guard out of so Cody Mock is

776
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Speaker 8: my favorite player in the draft.

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Speaker 6: But why because he loves He's just a He's just

778
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Speaker 6: a road grader.

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Speaker 8: That guy just eats nails, you know. Just his teeth

780
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 8: looks like he looks like he's missing some teeth. He

781
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Speaker 8: just you watch him on film and he's just putting

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Speaker 8: people in the ground constantly.

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Speaker 2: I love wrong with that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but he's a guard on.

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Speaker 2: White Georgia Tech.

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Speaker 6: That's That's something on the list.

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Speaker 2: How about Tyler Scott wide receiver.

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Speaker 6: That's guy we just talked about a little bit. He

789
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 6: scares me. I like him a little bit.

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Speaker 2: We're out of it. We're not going to be taking

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Speaker 2: Hendon Hooker.

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Speaker 7: Why do you just dismiss these things. And I'm being

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Speaker 7: dead serious.

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00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: Because I just don't think that's my opinion. I don't

795
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: think they're not Yeah, they're not going to take it.

796
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 2: It's you know, we have opinions.

797
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 6: Stamp by it. Yeah, there's the receiver.

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00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 2: This guy has to take one.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's really that's a good one. I mean,

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Speaker 6: those are the guys Bio and and the Beast over there,

801
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 6: because Dan Bruger actually broke a little bit of news

802
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 6: in the Beast and said that Bill O'Brien and Nick

803
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 6: Saban tried to recruit Tucker Craft to Alabama with a

804
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Speaker 6: lucrative nil deal.

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00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 2: Steve, Well, we knew that. How about I'm gonna skip

806
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: over the corner back matth. We talked about it tonight.

807
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Speaker 6: I know, I'm sorry, Sport. I can't believe playing that's

808
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 6: the Syracuse.

809
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 2: Yes about Gervon Dexter Senior tackles.

810
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 8: Explosive interior defensive lineman. Yeah, he's he's got a really

811
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 8: good get off, a really good explosiveness into the gap.

812
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 8: Maybe would remind Patriots fans too much of Dominique Easley, though.

813
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 6: So does he have a funny walking stride like Paulin.

814
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 8: Now he doesn't have the injury concerned as easily does.

815
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 8: But it's Florida. It's an a tier lineman.

816
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 2: There's another line defensive lineman, Keno Benton.

817
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's a fun player. It's a game wrecker on

818
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 8: the inside. But I think he's a little bit I

819
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 8: don't know, maybe maybe he's more like Christian Barmore insurance,

820
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 8: but they're kind of similar players a couple more.

821
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 2: We don't want to bore people, but Cedric Tillman to

822
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: you like him.

823
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 6: A little bit like him.

824
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 7: He was fighting fighting injuries last year, I think in

825
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 7: an ankle injury, so I think that kind of limited

826
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Speaker 7: him as his earlier his first year whatever it was,

827
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Speaker 7: his junior year two years ago. I think he was better.

828
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Speaker 6: I liked him better than Hyatt to be honest.

829
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Speaker 8: Yeah, he whooped uh Killy Ringos, but that game last year, so.

830
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Speaker 6: He is better than Hyatt, Like he was their guy

831
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Speaker 6: going there, and then he dealt with a bunch of

832
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 6: injuries during the course of the year, and then Hyatt

833
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 6: had all the touchdowns a good kind of blew up.

834
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 6: But but Tilden was the guy heading into the year

835
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Speaker 6: that was the premiere.

836
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just gonna skip down here the.

837
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Speaker 6: Trade, Falcons on the clock. Okay, well, Seahawks picked by

838
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 6: the way and edge guy Derek Okay, that's yeah. I

839
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 6: liked him too. I liked him. That would have that

840
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 6: would have been one that I would Patriots trade up.

841
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 6: I can see that kind.

842
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 2: Of I'll do one more. Marvin Mims.

843
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 8: Yes, I love Marvin Mims. Marvin Mims should have won

844
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 8: the bulletant cough. But Jalen Hyatt did one chick pony?

845
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: Did you say that the Falcons had a trade?

846
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 6: Falcons have traded up now and they're on the clock. Okay,

847
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 6: it sounds like they're coming faster, faster than I like it.

848
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 6: Minutes right, yeah, I like it.

849
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Speaker 2: We're on the seventh pick of the second round already, correct,

850
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: So the Falcons around the cross.

851
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 8: So the Patriots Brunes eight teams away now, right, If

852
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 8: the Falcons are on the clock at thirty eight, this

853
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 8: is about where if you package two fourth round picks

854
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 8: you would get up to this pick. So if they're

855
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 8: trying to trade up for anybody at this point, this

856
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 8: is the Christian Barmore trade. Right, here's the time forty

857
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 8: six to thirty eight for two fourth rounders.

858
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 7: I gotta be honest, though, I'm having a real hard

859
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 7: time saying I think they should go up and get certain.

860
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 6: That's why I actually got about a half hour ago.

861
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 6: Who you'd target? Yeah, And I'm not sure that to them.

862
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 6: I'm not sure I have a name of anybody who

863
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 6: I would target. And I don't want to just trade

864
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 6: for the sake of trading. Yeah, I mean, other than

865
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 6: from my convenience. It's that weird. It feels stupid to

866
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Speaker 6: me right now. I feel like, definitely, if we finish

867
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Speaker 6: this night with a second round pick and the third

868
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 6: round pick and we have to come tomorrow, it's like

869
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 6: for nine picks nine times if they go chime tonight,

870
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 6: I don't know what that means knowing Yeah, he's just

871
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 6: leading you down the primros.

872
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 2: So of all the plays that I just mentioned, is

873
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 2: there anyone that you'd move up for?

874
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 6: I mean not really.

875
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 8: The way then is shaking up if I just don't

876
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 8: even know if the positions of need that they need to,

877
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 8: you know, I mean, Derek Hall just went so I

878
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 8: guess maybe there could be a slight run of edge

879
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 8: rushers right now. I guess we can see what Atlanta does.

880
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 8: But I'm not the biggest Keyon White fan. But I

881
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 8: know that there was some first round buzz for ke

882
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 8: On White. Maybe he's a player that they that they

883
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 8: would like, kind of a tweeter inside, you know, a

884
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 8: defensive and outside linebacker, play at his hand in the dirt,

885
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 8: can stand up, can do a little bit of everything.

886
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 2: That's just hard.

887
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 6: Is your kid worth moving up for? I mean they're

888
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 6: probably about where he's gonna go. Yeah, yeah, I think.

889
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 7: I mean, like I said, I just I'm having trouble

890
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 7: really saying I wish they would trade up for this guy.

891
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 7: I feel like right now I would just kind of

892
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 7: wait and see because I'd probably be happy with a.

893
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 6: Lot of those things the same they kind of are.

894
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 6: So the Pro Football Talk tweet that I mentioned before

895
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 6: the start of the second round, Titans, Falcons, and Raiders,

896
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 6: all that's really sure. They all made trades yea in

897
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 6: the second round. Yep, yep, they weren't lying.

898
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 2: So the Falcons pick is in. While we're waiting for that,

899
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: why don't we go to the phones. We have some

900
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 2: listeners hanging on there. Let's go to We'll start with

901
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: Patty and Agawam.

902
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 13: What's up Patty, Good evening, gentlemen, how are you all right?

903
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 6: Evening?

904
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 13: So the guy I want to trade up for, and

905
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 13: I'll tell you what, Carolina might be the perfect candidate

906
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 13: to trade up with, because they don't have that many picks,

907
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 13: Darnel Washington. I sent it on Catch twenty two today,

908
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 13: and I think I started a new draft tradition last night, guys,

909
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 13: which is stay sober. No, obviously you like the patriotsmer

910
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 13: that I passed out like between pikes, I think picks

911
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 13: eight and nine.

912
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 6: Third, third, different person that's informed me that they did

913
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 6: not make it to the Patriots pick sorry ten It

914
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 6: was like ten tennis, and.

915
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 14: They did great.

916
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 13: And I think I'm going to do that every year

917
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 13: now and hopefully they you know, from here on out,

918
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 13: they make.

919
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,959
Speaker 7: Thanks Pat, Yeah, Paul, I'm gonna give you credit, Paul

920
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 7: for highlighted there good.

921
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 6: First of all, I wouldn't I wouldn't give I wouldn't

922
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 6: give me credit for it. I was asking if you

923
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 6: guys thought he was worth moving up for, like I

924
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 6: guess he. I guess he was because he would you

925
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 6: would have had to.

926
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 8: An He measured in a lot bigger than I was expecting.

927
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 8: So I actually think he is somebody that can play tackle.

928
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 8: He's got almost thirty four inch arms. He's six foot five.

929
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 8: He looked like a guard to me watching him, but

930
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 8: I think his size actually suggested that he could maybe

931
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 8: stick a tackle. Really physical run blocker.

932
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 6: Kind of new to the sport a little bit, is he?

933
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 6: I mean from Canada?

934
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 8: I think, right, Yeah, maybe he's a He's a really

935
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 8: really physical, tough, dependable, smart like he checks so many

936
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 8: of the Patriots boxes. So maybe they're thinking tackle more

937
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 8: in those middle rounds. That third and fourth round might

938
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 8: be their their tackle.

939
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 7: We got fisticuffs going on in the Carolina on the clock.

940
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 2: Let's go to Eldred in North Carolina. What's up Eldred?

941
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 5: Hey, so let's tell y'all doing today.

942
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: Okay, good, pretty good?

943
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 5: Shoot U scenario edge, even though I like receivers, I

944
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 5: don't see one in it. I would even down to

945
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 5: a Mingo or Kielman. What about another corner either cam

946
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 5: Smith or Ringo.

947
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 2: I'm outside to double dip like that. It would people think,

948
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: why would they do that? I wouldn't rule it out.

949
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,959
Speaker 6: I would rather have Branch stay in the second day. Yeah,

950
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 6: he moved my needle a little more. At least it's

951
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 6: something different. You keep your needle, work your light.

952
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,720
Speaker 2: If your lighthouse get bigger.

953
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 7: With this draft, my lighthouse just keeps getting bigger.

954
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 6: I don't know. Yeah, Branch, at least he's not a

955
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 6: corner to me.

956
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: Go ahead Ald safety, Yeah he's safety.

957
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 5: But Ringo or Camsmith because I'm thinking man corners on

958
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 5: the outside. Do you got Jonathan Jones and Marcus Jones,

959
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 5: Jack Jones and Bryant and uh bils just don't do it.

960
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 5: But I'm sorry, just you know, yeah, start with some

961
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 5: height feet you know you can need to be in

962
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 5: that defense.

963
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: No, listen, Branch would make sense, you would make sense.

964
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 8: Branch would make sense. Another outside corner. I I just

965
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 8: can't stomach that. I mean, if you want to do that,

966
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 8: if you want to do that in like the fourth

967
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 8: round and and maybe just double dipped ahead your bets

968
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 8: on on Christian Gonzales and fine, but this offense needs

969
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 8: some help, Like you gotta get some tackles. You got

970
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 8: to get a pass catcher.

971
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 6: I think where's your boy mok scheduled together?

972
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 8: I would say somewhere in the middle of today. Yeah,

973
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 8: I think this is a little early for him, but

974
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 8: I give it another.

975
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 6: He's tight and if he's there, then you haven't.

976
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's a guard, though he's really a guard, like

977
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 8: he's built like a guard. He plays like a guard,

978
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 8: he's not. He's not like Burger On where you can

979
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 8: maybe play him at tackle.

980
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 2: Let's go to Carolina's Mario Mingo Mario.

981
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 14: And what's going on?

982
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 2: Guy?

983
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 14: Hey, still pinching myself from Kristen Gonzales. Never thought it

984
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 14: was gonna happen in my wildest dream man way. What

985
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 14: do you guys think about Darnelle Washington and with their

986
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 14: pick coming up, than trading a couple of their fourth

987
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 14: round picks and a pick from next year to move

988
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 14: up for Josh Down.

989
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 6: I mean, at this point, I don't know if you've

990
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 6: really got to move up.

991
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 8: I mean it's yeah, well I think he's talking about

992
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 8: moving up from seventy six.

993
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 6: Oh oh at him?

994
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 8: Yeah you get both guys, sure, sure?

995
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 7: I mean I also think there are you know, at

996
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 7: this point, there's guys that aren't too far below Downs,

997
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 7: but I just think where they are right now, it's

998
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 7: hard to get past Washington.

999
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 6: I don't know if they would like Washington, but I

1000
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 6: think that.

1001
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 7: He's a player that just is so unique and would

1002
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 7: just instantly provide a buzz. I don't know if it's

1003
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 7: a buzz of high level offensive performance. It might just

1004
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 7: be kind of more of a third tight end role

1005
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 7: player who can kind of chip in from time to

1006
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 7: time with huge side on the inside.

1007
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 6: That you know that they could have sploit. But yep, yeah, it's.

1008
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 8: Uh he's I love Darnel Washington, the idea of Darnell Washington,

1009
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 8: but I do think he gets misunderstood a little bit.

1010
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 8: He's he's a project like that is not a ready

1011
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 8: made tight and he had forty five career catches at Georgia.

1012
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 6: That's it.

1013
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 8: You know, He's not somebody that's going to come in

1014
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 8: as a polished receiver. This is he's going to take

1015
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 8: some time to develop.

1016
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 6: But you're banking on a projection as a receiver. I totally.

1017
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 8: But to your point, Mike, He's would be their best

1018
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 8: inline blocker at the position day one. So if you

1019
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 8: want to put him on the field on first down,

1020
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 8: if you want to put him on the field in

1021
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 8: short yardage and have him run block, he's going to

1022
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 8: be better at that than the two guys they have

1023
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 8: on the roster. So he can do that as rookie season.

1024
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 8: But if you're expecting him to come in and add

1025
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 8: fifty catches to this offense, that's not happening.

1026
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 6: I agree. But but here's the thing that is intriguing

1027
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 6: about him to me is when you think of a

1028
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 6: guy with that kind of skill set that Evan's talking about,

1029
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 6: that extra tight end that you rarely throw the ball to,

1030
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 6: and maybe when you do, it's like, you know, one

1031
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 6: of those fourth in inches and you you leave him

1032
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 6: out and he gets the first down. This is an

1033
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 6: athletic beast in the open field. Yes, if so, maybe

1034
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 6: he doesn't catch fifty ball, but maybe he catches twenty

1035
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 6: and averages like seventeen yards to catch on those on

1036
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 6: those twenties. I mean, that's what he did at Georgia.

1037
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 6: You know, he's average kind of athleticism I think he has,

1038
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 6: and then maybe he grows into a bigger role as

1039
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 6: a receiver.

1040
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 8: At Georgia, I think he was at eighteen yards per

1041
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 8: catch because every time you catch.

1042
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 6: The ball, who's tackling? He tried tackles the guy who's

1043
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 6: like six ' eight, right, yeahah, six seven?

1044
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 2: How was he in the red zone like in you know,

1045
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 2: in the end zone.

1046
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 6: Well, I mean Evan said, how many passes did he catch?

1047
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 6: I mean it's it's you know.

1048
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: How many of them were touchdowns? How many touchdowns?

1049
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 6: Not very many?

1050
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, but he's somebody that has great body control and

1051
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 8: great size, so he can can toward his body and

1052
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 8: you know, catch back shoulders, catch passes that are outside

1053
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 8: of his frame and and make those types of catches.

1054
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 8: So I think he could definitely be a red zone player.

1055
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 2: Thanks Mario, Panthers selecting wide receiver.

1056
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 8: Okay, I was a fan of Mingos. I thought that

1057
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 8: he had probably the best upside out of any of

1058
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 8: the receivers that were going to go on Day two.

1059
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 8: Reminds me a lot from a just an athletic profile

1060
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 8: standpoint of AJ Brown. You know, six foot two, two

1061
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 8: hundred and twenty pounds, four four six in the forty

1062
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 8: he can run. Yeah, he's explosive player. I would have

1063
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 8: liked to have seen him in New England, and they

1064
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 8: got pretty close. I mean thirty nine and they're getting there.

1065
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 6: I liked him a little bit more than the guys

1066
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 6: we were talking about earlier.

1067
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 2: Let's go to Willem and philhim. What's up, William, what's

1068
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 2: going on how are you doing good?

1069
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 9: I tried to call in yesterday.

1070
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 15: I had a hangout dose.

1071
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 9: That's my apology on that.

1072
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 2: No problem, just thank you.

1073
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 9: Just a two questions, but just one thing I wanted

1074
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 9: to say about the pig yesterday. Thank you, Jill, you

1075
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 9: family made take your things happy that I'm a fan

1076
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 9: of Christian Gunzalas Morgan Beast. Yes, we needed someone tall,

1077
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 9: someone blew it know, someone that can move and everything.

1078
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 15: And I love to pick. I have no problem with it,

1079
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 15: love it. So my well, my favorite receiver just went

1080
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 15: off the board, Jonathan Mingo, So that had it done.

1081
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 15: So I don't want Marvin Mills.

1082
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: I don't want him, Okay, why yeah, why not? Why not?

1083
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 6: Opinion?

1084
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 14: Sure you got you got nothing.

1085
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 8: He's five eleven, he's not short.

1086
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, five eleven is fine.

1087
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 8: Josh Downs is short. He's five five seven, five foot eight.

1088
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 8: Marvin Mims, I think it's like five ten, five eleven.

1089
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 6: It's not.

1090
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 8: He's not a tall guy. Like I'm not going to

1091
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 8: say he's he's not six or four. But I wouldn't

1092
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 8: call him short.

1093
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 16: So you win trade so you still won't want You

1094
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 16: wouldn't want Jerry Judy over Marvion Mills.

1095
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, I don't think that that's the question.

1096
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 8: I don't think that that's the my options.

1097
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 9: Okay, okay, all.

1098
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 2: Right, thanks William, Thanks thanks for listening. Melvin and tennessee

1099
00:48:59,440 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 2: what's up?

1100
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 17: We could cut what's going on? Hey, Hey, I just

1101
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 17: wanted to get in real quick and say that, like

1102
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 17: I guess this makes obviously obviously just makes sense. But

1103
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 17: it's just what's what's going on in the division and

1104
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 17: the struggles we've had being able to, you know, stop

1105
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 17: people throwing the ball. I love the fact that we

1106
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 17: got a corner somebody that can help stop that, and

1107
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 17: you know, just it's still just gonna be such a

1108
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 17: struggle in the division because like you all kind of

1109
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 17: talked about that, you should probably have probably the fourth

1110
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 17: best quarterback probably in his division now. And I've been

1111
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 17: trying to look to get you know, two games truly

1112
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 17: better not worse. So havn't you know, havn't the kind

1113
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 17: of counter stopping people like Aaron Rodgers and to who

1114
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 17: used to have and beat really so just all those

1115
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 17: little things factors going into it. It's gonna be It's

1116
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 17: good to get that pick. I would love to match

1117
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 17: that up with probably like a young guy off the

1118
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 17: edge that we can depend down just to slow things

1119
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 17: downs where that would be a great pair to get

1120
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 17: a young corner that can play and somebody out the ash.

1121
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 17: That's kind of helped to break up some passes too.

1122
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 17: And I think it's good. You're just moving in the

1123
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 17: right direction.

1124
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 14: Yeah, we can pair that up.

1125
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 17: What's going to point then we'll actually.

1126
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 2: Be actually make a run up, all right, thanks Melvin.

1127
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, so Isaiah Fosky went to the Saints. I liked

1128
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 6: him too, good player.

1129
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 8: I wonder if Keon White's their guy. Of course I

1130
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 8: didn't have him on the big board.

1131
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 6: Because I had it.

1132
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 8: I just liked other guys a little bit better. I

1133
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 8: don't know, I just he's a strong guy.

1134
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 14: Uh.

1135
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 8: He's kind of like a round two Lucas van Ness,

1136
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 8: you know type of player. Can play inside, can play outside.

1137
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 8: But he just every time I watched him, it just

1138
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 8: wasn't I was just missing something Like it just wasn't

1139
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 8: that it was not impressive. You know, It's like, okay, fine,

1140
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 8: he can play the spot. He's going to hold his

1141
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 8: ground and he's not going to be a liability. But

1142
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 8: it's not a difference maker.

1143
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 7: He was one that I think I initially kind of

1144
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 7: passed over, and then somebody who I respect, I forget

1145
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 7: who said oh, he's a great Patriots fit, and then

1146
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 7: I was like, and I went back and I still

1147
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 7: kind of like I guess, but I kind of felt

1148
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 7: similar to you, Like I could see why they might

1149
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 7: like him and how he might fit. But again, I

1150
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 7: think that fits more to like just the liquid nature

1151
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 7: of their edge play and whether it's hand down, stand

1152
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 7: up guys, you know, six foot four, two fifty. Like,

1153
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 7: I'm just I don't know exactly what they want anymore schematically,

1154
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 7: and they kind of hide behind that we're a game

1155
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 7: plan defense, so we can kind of plug whoever we want,

1156
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 7: and we can take a Joshu Jay and you know,

1157
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 7: make him, you know whatever, It is a forty percent player,

1158
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 7: and you know, we still has a significant role.

1159
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 6: So it's u I'm not sure if they were gonna

1160
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 6: go edge early.

1161
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 8: I just wanted someone that's just a little bit more flashy,

1162
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 8: just someone that makes a little bit more splash, like

1163
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 8: a three down guy.

1164
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, and like you, I'll give you a little of

1165
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 6: everything and has some strength.

1166
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 8: And I'm already mad about something they haven't done yet.

1167
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 2: So let's go to Daryl in Virginia. What's up Daryl?

1168
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 6: Hey?

1169
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 2: All right?

1170
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 18: Pretty good.

1171
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: So I'm really excited to love the Chrystal Gonzalez pet.

1172
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 17: I wanted to kind of get I've.

1173
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 19: Been stompeds on Garrett Williams later.

1174
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 9: On in the draft and possibly some other options that

1175
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 9: I want to receive.

1176
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 14: We're not a mingos off.

1177
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 8: The board, Yeah, Gary, Garret Williams is another one of

1178
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 8: those guys that's just he's fine, Like he's not He's

1179
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 8: not gonna get totally torch. He's not gonna be a liability,

1180
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 8: but he's not a difference maker. I just I don't know,

1181
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 8: I thought in this cornerback class, I just feel like

1182
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 8: there's quite a few more guys than him that have

1183
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 8: a little bit more upside. Now he had the injury,

1184
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 8: so maybe it's somebody that you stash more more than anything.

1185
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 6: But I don't know. I didn't love him.

1186
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 2: All right. Let's go to Brendan and Pennsylvania. Brendan, Hey,

1187
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 2: how's it going.

1188
00:52:58,520 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 20: Uh?

1189
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 5: Long time list there for time caller.

1190
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 21: So I just want to say hello, everybody watching Tom

1191
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 21: Brady for twenty years. We always said interior pressure. Is

1192
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 21: we to get to him. Who's left in the draft

1193
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 21: tonight that you guys can see interior defensive linemen that

1194
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 21: can help get after the quarterback.

1195
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 8: Well, there's a couple of guys that are really intriguing.

1196
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 8: I mean, the one name that I think is the

1197
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 8: best out of the bunch is Keanu Benton from Wisconsin,

1198
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 8: who just is an absolute game wrecker. Not necessarily someone

1199
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 8: that's gonna have ten sacks in the season, but you're

1200
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 8: gonna just see play to play that he's going to

1201
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,959
Speaker 8: be in the backfield, he's going to be pushing people,

1202
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 8: he's going to be causing problems up front. I really

1203
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 8: enjoyed watching him play.

1204
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 2: Would he compliment bar More?

1205
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 8: I think you could. But they're they're basically the same guy.

1206
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 8: They're an explosive, long, big interior guys that can get

1207
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,959
Speaker 8: off the ball and shoot gaps and make plays behind

1208
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 8: the line of scrimmage. I don't think that either one

1209
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 8: of them is a guy that you are going to

1210
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 8: have hold the fort in the middle of the line.

1211
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 8: They're both guys that want to get up the field.

1212
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 7: And that's another great question because I think that there's

1213
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 7: a lot of the big hold the fort kind of

1214
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 7: guys later in the draft too.

1215
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1216
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 7: I mean, look, I'm not going to try to pump

1217
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,760
Speaker 7: up and tell you that daniel Aqualay is anything special,

1218
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 7: but I mean these are kind of bit roles, and

1219
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 7: I mean I think we're all hoping that Barmore gets

1220
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 7: back into what you know he did as a rookie

1221
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 7: and get back into that kind of production. Sorry on

1222
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 7: the power play, but I think that's bert. It's just

1223
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 7: all part of how fluid the Patriots lineup is and

1224
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 7: you just never know quite what they're looking for. I

1225
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 7: just I think for me, a slam dunk is to

1226
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 7: get one of these big fatties tomorrow, probably to you know,

1227
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,439
Speaker 7: to groom behind Lawrence, Guy Devon Gotschaw, these older guys,

1228
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 7: Carl Davis. I mean, you could draft one of these

1229
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 7: guys tomorrow. I think they could come in and compete

1230
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 7: with Carl Davis tomorrow. I don't know if they're gonna

1231
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 7: beat him out, but you know, I think you need

1232
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 7: to be a little bit proactive on the defensive line

1233
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 7: because that group is getting old. We've seen them in

1234
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 7: some big games that they haven't quite been able to

1235
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 7: deliver like they have against you know, some of the

1236
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 7: lesser teams, So that that's another spot I think they

1237
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 7: need to continue to build.

1238
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's one guy that is in that vein that's

1239
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 8: gonna probably go tonight, and that's Sakka from Baylor, who

1240
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 8: is I think he reminds me mostly of Danny Shelton,

1241
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 8: like he's that kind of player.

1242
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 6: But I don't know Ben.

1243
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 8: I really like Ben Dexter. I think is a good

1244
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 8: player too. When he's on his motor is a little inconsistent,

1245
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 8: but when he's plugged in, he's a really disruptive guy.

1246
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 8: But I'm with Mike. I think that most of those

1247
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 8: guys you wait for it tomorrow.

1248
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 6: Your boy just went Cardinals.

1249
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 8: Bjali's got like seventeen different pass rush moves. That guy

1250
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 8: was really fun to win.

1251
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 6: It looks like Luke Musgrave to the Packers. That makes sense.

1252
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 6: They they were poking around tight ends. Yeah, interesting, interesting,

1253
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 6: Well I think that might you know, we might work.

1254
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1255
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 7: I think they'll continue to get some of these tight

1256
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 7: ends off the board. But you know, I think you're

1257
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 7: getting into that lower level now. Guys like Craft, who

1258
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,439
Speaker 7: you know, was an FCS guy, and you know, maybe

1259
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 7: gonna need a little bit more time Musgrave had injur reissues.

1260
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 7: But I mean, what what, I got enamored with him

1261
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 7: just watching him at Senior Bowl practices. I just thought

1262
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 7: he is an an elite athlete. I don't know if

1263
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,720
Speaker 7: he's going to ever be a blocker, but in today's NFL,

1264
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 7: who cares if he can be, you know, a matchup

1265
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 7: weapon piece, and hey, we're not going to ask you

1266
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 7: to block, but he could be.

1267
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 6: He could be a real good target for Jordan Love

1268
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 6: up there.

1269
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 8: He's a one trick pony. He can run the seam

1270
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 8: and run and that's all he can do. He doesn't

1271
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 8: break rouds, he doesn't block. He's Mike a sickie, which

1272
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 8: is fine, I guess at this point of the draft.

1273
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 6: Drafted right, Yeah, what's up, Ben?

1274
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 14: Hey, how's it going? Uh?

1275
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 19: You know, I love to pick of Christian for Gonzalez

1276
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 19: because the value was just incredible. But don't the Patriots

1277
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 19: need to invest in some offensive help for Max because

1278
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 19: I feel like there's so much doubt well macare after

1279
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 19: last year, and there's certainly excuses for why things didn't

1280
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 19: go well, but something has to invest in offense so

1281
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 19: that you know, we can see whether or not. You know,

1282
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 19: Mac is the guy moving forward.

1283
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 2: I mean specifically you're you're talking about wide receiver, right, because.

1284
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 7: You know, I think anything really I mean, yeah, and

1285
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 7: I mean I even say, I know it's not a weapon,

1286
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 7: but tackle, I mean, I agree, I agree. I just

1287
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 7: think that the way things went in the middle of

1288
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 7: the first round last night, there just wasn't that player there. Now,

1289
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 7: if this was a class in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty,

1290
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,479
Speaker 7: those like loaded receiver classes where there were five guys

1291
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 7: or whatever going in the first round, then I think

1292
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 7: they absolutely would have been all over that. But given

1293
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 7: how the board played out, I think cornerback, as much

1294
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 7: as you know, we all know the offense was bad

1295
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 7: last year, I think we can't discount Bill O'Brien and

1296
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 7: you can't discount.

1297
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 6: The need for that top cornerback.

1298
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 7: And I think that's you know why everybody is high

1299
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 7: on Gonzalez, even though it came at the expense.

1300
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 6: Of Yeah, and the other thing is you can't expend,

1301
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 6: you can't force it. And I agree, I think that

1302
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 6: they need to get probably a higher level of talent

1303
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 6: around the quarterback. But that doesn't mean I just think

1304
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 6: for this you got to take a wide receiver. I

1305
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 6: think if if you have guys that you think makes sense.

1306
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 6: And that's why I think what you guys were talking about,

1307
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 6: Evan and Mike early when we came on tonight about

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00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 6: tight end, I think makes more sense. Now some tight

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00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 6: ends have gotten taken. So maybe you don't have the

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00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 6: same kind of value there, and maybe you do. Pick

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00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 6: you're a boy from North Carolina, yep. I understand that

1312
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 6: the mindset of someone who says, you know, we need

1313
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 6: to help Mac a little bit, we need to get

1314
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 6: something more around him. I understand that completely. I just

1315
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 6: don't think that you do it just for the sake.

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00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 6: You're doing it well right.

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Speaker 8: That's why I said the other day, you got to

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Speaker 8: put a name to the claim, because at this point

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00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 8: the receivers are really starting to be stretched pretty thin.

1320
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Speaker 8: I mean, I like Marvin Mims, maybe more than other people.

1321
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 8: Josh Downs, I like him too, But it seems to

1322
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 8: me like a guy like Downs is falling because of

1323
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 8: his size, and he might be teams might have him

1324
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 8: way different than what the media has. And that's sort

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00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 8: of the sense I'm starting to get, is that the

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00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 8: media thought this guy's a top fifty player but because

1327
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 8: he's only five foot seven, one hundred and seventy pounds,

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00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 8: the league is very really viewing him as a more

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Speaker 8: mid round guy, So he might be around for a

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Speaker 8: little bit if he does and go here soon.

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Speaker 2: So green Bay takes Musgrave, the Jets are on the

1332
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 2: clock following green Bay. Then it's green Bay again. No,

1333
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 2: then it's the Colts, green Bay and the Patriots. So

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00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 2: we're getting up there.

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Speaker 8: If the Patriots really want one of these tight ends,

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00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 8: they they really need to start thinking about just taking

1337
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 8: the guy here at forty six, because you got Darnel Washington,

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00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 8: you got Tucker Craft, and then you have Coons and

1339
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 8: schoon Maker left and those guys I think are going

1340
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,919
Speaker 8: to be more like third or fourth round players. Once

1341
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 8: you get rid of those four guys, you are jumping.

1342
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 8: You're falling off a cliff here. So if you want

1343
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 8: one of these tight ends, you better take one.

1344
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 6: What's up with Brian Branch anybody? We have his combine?

1345
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Speaker 8: His combine was pretty pedestrian, and you know he's got

1346
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 8: a great film. But what you like a four to

1347
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 8: six or mid four fives, high four to five something

1348
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 8: like that.

1349
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, just a little programming note. In a

1350
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Speaker 2: few seconds, we're gonna have to switch to audio, and

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Speaker 2: when we we'll catch up with Christian Gonzales, who stopped

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01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 2: into the studio. So let's do that. I think we're

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01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 2: going to audio now. So while we wait for the

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Speaker 2: Patriots pick, why don't we listen to what Christian Gonzales

1355
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Speaker 2: had to say earlier today in the studio. All right,

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Speaker 2: we're joined now on Patriots Unfiltered Draft Show by Christian Gonzales,

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Speaker 2: the Patriots' first round pick. And I got to tell you,

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01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 2: we put in a lot of work to the draft.

1359
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 2: When we heard your name, we were all like hallelujah,

1360
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 2: because usually the guys that we want don't get picked,

1361
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 2: but you were the consensus guy that everybody wanted. So

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01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 2: congratulations from being a Patriot.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I appreciate it. It means a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So, have you had a chance to breathe yet?

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01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I know you got on a plane first

1366
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:49,919
Speaker 2: thing this morning, went out here. What do you think

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01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 2: so far?

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Speaker 22: It's amazing. I can already just feel the atmosphere just

1369
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 22: being around. The coach is super excited to learn and

1370
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Speaker 22: just come in and work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean that's what we hear about you.

1372
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 2: You're a head down, just work coach pleaser. Where do

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01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 2: you get that from?

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Speaker 22: Just kind of just raised that way with my sisters.

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01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 22: You know, I took the way of being I was

1376
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 22: the baby for ten years until my younger sister was born,

1377
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 22: and just always watching my two older sisters. Kind of

1378
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 22: just had to keep my head down.

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01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 2: That's a lot of pressure when you're the boy two

1380
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Speaker 2: older sisters who are good athletes.

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Speaker 6: You got to keep up, right, for sure.

1382
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, when did you finally turn the tide with your

1383
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 7: older sisters, like playing sports, the backyard, that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 22: I mean, it was a competitive with them, growing very

1385
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 22: competitive to the smallest things of playing cards. We competed

1386
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 22: everything we did. But really I probably started beating them

1387
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 22: in races and stuff when I was ninth tenth grade.

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01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 22: So so yeah, okay, I.

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Speaker 6: Wanted to ask you a little bit. I know, Evan's

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01:01:56,280 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 6: probably going to have some real film breakdown. Evan's our

1391
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 6: resident football jumping, So we'll leave the football stuff to Evan.

1392
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 6: But I wanted to ask you about I'm just watching

1393
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 6: some of the highlights as the draft just getting ready

1394
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 6: to get under way tonight. Just what the atmosphere was

1395
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 6: like in Kansas City for you. You know, we got

1396
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 6: to see you get out there and you had your

1397
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 6: custom suit and you know seeing you know, Commissioner A. Goodell.

1398
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 6: Just what was the atmosphere overall like last night?

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Speaker 22: Oh, it was amazing. It was a dream come true

1400
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 22: kind of flew by, you know, just sitting in the

1401
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 22: green room with a lot of people I know too,

1402
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 22: my family and then all the other prospects. Being able

1403
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 22: to just you know, we worked so hard for that

1404
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 22: moment and being able to go in there and just

1405
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 22: enjoy it with our families meant everything to me.

1406
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 8: And we were just talking to the assistant coaches and

1407
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 8: Coach Mayo told us that he came out to Oregon

1408
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 8: to talk to you and meet with you before the draft.

1409
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 8: What was that meeting like And did you have an

1410
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 8: inkling at all after that meeting that the Patriots might

1411
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 8: be called.

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01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 22: Oh, it was a great meeting. You know, we sat

1413
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:02,439
Speaker 22: down talkball, Jimmy's stuff. But you know, I didn't really

1414
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 22: think anything of it, of oh I was gonna end

1415
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 22: up here. Kind of just went along with the process.

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01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 8: And at Oregon you played in the coverage system that's

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01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 8: pretty complex, you know, in college sometimes teams just sit

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01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 8: in one type of coverage, but you guys really spun

1419
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 8: the dial on quarterbacks. I know coach Loupoid was at

1420
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 8: Alabama and you know Patriots connection to Alabama. What was

1421
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 8: that system like and how multiple was it? You know,

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01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 8: in terms of your mental side of.

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01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 10: Things, Yeah, it was a lot.

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01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 22: But I think that was great to be able to

1425
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 22: play in that and just learn it was. It's gonna

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01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 22: give me a good transition to the league. You know,

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01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 22: There's still so much more to learn that I'm super

1428
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 22: excited to learn. But I'm glad I played in that system.

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01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, you played a lot of positions growing up

1430
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 2: in football, and then you know you've settled on cornerback

1431
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 2: once you did that, once you said okay, I'm a cornerback.

1432
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 2: Was there a guy you know in the NFL that

1433
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 2: you kind of fashioned yourself after, you know, former player,

1434
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 2: a current player that you said, yeah, I want to

1435
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 2: be like that.

1436
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,919
Speaker 10: Guy when I started playing really for real.

1437
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 22: It was Pastor Tan, big, tall, kind of corner you know,

1438
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 22: I'm kind of around the same size. He's a big technician,

1439
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 22: elite technician. So someone I could try to play like

1440
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 22: seeing someone move at this size, being fluid, kind.

1441
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 10: Of just what I try to model my game after.

1442
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

1443
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 6: I wanted to ask you a little bit about that

1444
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 6: speed that you have, and obviously you've been pretty versatile

1445
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 6: in that secondary or for Oregon, but if you have

1446
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 6: any return experience, I figured with that kind of speed

1447
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 6: and athleticism that you'd be a natural with the ball

1448
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 6: in your hands if you had any opportunities to do that,

1449
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 6: something the coaches keep you away from because they're trying

1450
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 6: to make.

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01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 22: Sure they protect you. I mean I did in high

1452
01:04:56,200 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 22: school and kind of wanted to in college. Never really did.

1453
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 10: I would in practice, but never really never did in

1454
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 10: the game, but I definitely.

1455
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 6: Got I'll let you in on something. I heard your

1456
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 6: position coach talking about it on the radio today and

1457
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 6: he said it was intentional. He wanted to make sure

1458
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 6: he was a little selfish and made sure it kept

1459
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 6: you away from that. He knew you had that ability.

1460
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 6: He did that.

1461
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 2: It's a little old school, but look up on YouTube

1462
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 2: Mike Haynes highlights from back in the day Hall of

1463
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 2: Famer going to do my homework, Okay, pe trade.

1464
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 8: Hall of Famer return skills though one play. I wanted

1465
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 8: to ask you about it is again call Colorado last

1466
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 8: year and you're playing zone. I think I think it

1467
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 8: was cover six, I'm not sure if it was Cover six,

1468
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 8: and it's a post wheel and you kind of carried

1469
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 8: the post and then came off the post and jumped

1470
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 8: the wheel route. And when I saw that play, I

1471
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 8: was like, this guy's pretty good, right, you can do that?

1472
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 8: And then yeah, that return ability down the sideline. Just

1473
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:54,919
Speaker 8: walk me through that play. What was that play alive

1474
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 8: from your perspective.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, they actually hit us earlier on the same exact

1476
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 22: play early in the game, and I knew the play

1477
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 22: was coming again. That was their go to when they

1478
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 22: got in a little nasty bunch. So I told my

1479
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 22: we were actually in the cover three. I told my

1480
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 22: nickel and my safety. I told my safety hold the

1481
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 22: post because I'm a jump the corner, knews coming, and

1482
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 22: I just trusted my instincts.

1483
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Speaker 6: So yeah, yeah, a little extra sweet that it was

1484
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 6: against Colorado.

1485
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Speaker 14: It was.

1486
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 10: It was a little it was cool to have two

1487
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 10: picks that game.

1488
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 6: Speaking of that, you know you.

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01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 2: Took advantage of the portal. How grateful are you to

1490
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 2: have that ability to have made that move.

1491
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 22: I'm very grateful because that was My whole thing is

1492
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 22: I wanted to play with Demetris Martin. Yeah, committed to him.

1493
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 22: He told me he was gonna get me in and

1494
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 22: out in three years. So that's what I You know,

1495
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 22: I'm loyal to my coach, and that's that's what's super

1496
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 22: intriguing about being here, is is Hall of Fame coaches.

1497
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 22: So I'm just excited to be in that, in this

1498
01:06:58,360 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 22: opportunity to work with them.

1499
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Speaker 2: I can tell you, if you love football, this is

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01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 2: the place for this is the place. Well, any any

1501
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 2: other questions, I know you've got a lot of other

1502
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 2: things to do.

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Speaker 6: You're now the best athlete in the family. I know

1504
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 6: that they talk to you a little bit.

1505
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 10: My little sister said she.

1506
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 2: But I just picture though, like we all like played,

1507
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 2: you know, one on one basketball with our dads in

1508
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 2: the driveway. I could just picture your dad just swamming

1509
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 2: away balls. Did you ever do that with it?

1510
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Speaker 6: Oh?

1511
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got and he didn't take it easy, just

1512
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:40,919
Speaker 2: like bang try again, kid, All right, Well, congratulations again

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Speaker 2: and welcome. You know, I know there's a lot to learn.

1514
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 2: Uh So you've got a lot ahead of you, but

1515
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 2: it's really exciting and you know you should be proud

1516
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 2: of yourself that you kept this far. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 2: Christian Gonzales here on Patriots Unfiltered. We'll be right back

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Speaker 2: All right back here and Patriot's Unfiltered. The pick is

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Speaker 2: in for Detroit. Who is who made a trade to

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01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 2: get to the fourteenth spot? And the Patriots will be

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Speaker 2: on the clock as soon as this pick is announced.

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Speaker 2: They're actually probably on the clock right now. Do we

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01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 2: know who Detroit took? Check?

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Speaker 6: Think Brian Branch? Yes, bro, really Brian Branch?

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Speaker 5: Wow?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's uh, you gotta one. He gotta wonder if

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Speaker 7: they thought, I mean, he's definitely a.

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01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 2: Patriots kind of guy, so they jumped over. The Patriots

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01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 2: thought to get this guy. Probably, I mean, maybe we

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Speaker 2: were interested in Brian Branch.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I like Brian Branch, but I just I

1556
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 7: thought he was redundant. But I couldn't ignore him. I

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01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 7: kept him on the board just because I thought he's

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01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 7: just one of their guys. He plays there way, he

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01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,560
Speaker 7: went to Alabama. There's too many boxes being checked. So

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Speaker 7: I think I understand, uh, what they're what they were thinking. Uh,

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Speaker 7: And it looks like and it looks like it's out

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Speaker 7: there right now what the Patriots have done.

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Speaker 2: But don't you think that they jumped over the Patriots

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Speaker 2: to get the guy that they think the Patriots might

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Speaker 2: have been interested in?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think definitely.

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Speaker 8: And I don't think thet no the Patriots turned in

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Speaker 8: the car that they of the guy that they picked

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Speaker 8: awfully fast.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So I think the Patriots maybe that's so. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Connor Hughes, who's a reporter, he's saying, the Patriots have

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Speaker 7: selected key On White, who.

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Speaker 6: Was we just talked about a little bit.

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Speaker 7: He's a defensive end edge front seven, big guy, not

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Speaker 7: a lot of I mean, he's kind of a little

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Speaker 7: bit of a project. I think we just say, I mean,

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Speaker 7: he's a kind of a developmental guy, a little bit rough,

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01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:54,560
Speaker 7: but has all the all the kind of size and

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Speaker 7: all that for for.

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Speaker 6: An edge player in this in this system.

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Speaker 8: I don't know if he's a raw he just he

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01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 8: doesn't have a lot of juice to me as in

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01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 8: terms of first step explosiveness. He's not somebody that's gonna

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Speaker 8: get off the ball before everybody else and and be

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Speaker 8: that type of guy that's gonna get into the backfield immediately.

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Speaker 8: But he's got great versatility. He can play inside outside

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Speaker 8: hand in the dirt, stand up a two hundred and

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Speaker 8: eighty five pounds, so he's gonna have that power to

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Speaker 8: set the edge that they like. He's a he's a

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Speaker 8: bowling ball. He's somebody that's got good length, good power,

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Speaker 8: a good hand placement, and can really push the pocket

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Speaker 8: and move blockers in the run game. So he's just

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Speaker 8: their type of guy. I think the one thing that

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Speaker 8: I questioned about it just to Tad is he's somebody

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Speaker 8: that I think is a little bit of a tweeter,

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Speaker 8: and I think he's a little bit too big and

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Speaker 8: too you know, heavy footed to truly play with his feet,

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Speaker 8: you know, in a two point stance on his feet,

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Speaker 8: but he doesn't really have that first step explosiveness to

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Speaker 8: really get into the teeth of the offense.

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Speaker 2: He's play can play against the run.

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Speaker 8: Yes, that that's I would say probably his best trait

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01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 8: is his versatility and his ability to play the because that's.

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Speaker 2: Something they kind of need, right because buche doesn't really

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Speaker 2: do that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I just don't know. I don't know if he's

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Speaker 8: going to be in a two point stance.

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Speaker 6: I think that we might be.

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Speaker 8: The further he gets, yeah, the further he gets out,

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01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 8: the more problems that he seems to have because he's

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Speaker 8: not athletic enough to play in space. So if you

1612
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Speaker 8: put him in like a read option like forget, like

1613
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Speaker 8: the guys are going to run right around him.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going back to the three to four.

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Speaker 6: He's kind of a three four end. Yeah, yeah, No,

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Speaker 6: your mic is not on Paul Matt Can you now

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Speaker 6: is that better?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I've seen some things that he can move inside, maybe

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Speaker 6: in collapse the pocket from the inside on on third downs.

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Speaker 6: I mean it's funny, like you look at the profile.

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Speaker 6: He started his career as a tight end. Yeah, to

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Speaker 6: the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 25: NFL Draft, the Detroit Lions Select.

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Speaker 8: I know there's some people with Keon White that feel

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Speaker 8: like he's gonna be a better three technique. So somebody

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Speaker 8: that's gonna line up in the B gap and shoot

1628
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 8: the B gap and and play in that vein, then

1629
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Speaker 8: he's gonna be an outside guy. So I'm interested to

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Speaker 8: see how they're gonna use him. Honestly, I think that

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Speaker 8: they they grabbed him here because he was the most

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Speaker 8: most talented guy on the board. I hate to use

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Speaker 8: that cliche, but I think that, yeah, I think that

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Speaker 8: he you know, he was in the green room like

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Speaker 8: they thought he was gonna he might go to last night.

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Speaker 8: So I think they they looked at him as the

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Speaker 8: guy that was one of the more talented guys on

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Speaker 8: the board. I just preferred some of the edge guys

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Speaker 8: that were a little bit more in that mold, that

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Speaker 8: that could get after the passer and it could bend

1641
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 8: the corner and things like that. But I think a

1642
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 8: lot of those guys went in the last ten picks

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Speaker 8: or so.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I I see him as Deetrich Wise's role,

1645
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 7: which is, you know, he played right defensive ends, he

1646
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 7: stands up occasionally, he can reduce inside on passing downs.

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Speaker 7: I mean this is of course, if if it works out,

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Speaker 7: you know, just to reiterate the point you know I've

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Speaker 7: made recently, just they don't have a lot of edge

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01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 7: player right now.

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01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 6: I mean after judea On.

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01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 7: It's a pretty quick drop off you know of guys

1653
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 7: who aren't pass rushers and unless you you know, are

1654
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 7: ready to invest in infony, Jennings being you know, one

1655
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 7: of your top guys, I think they needed to add

1656
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 7: to the depth.

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01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 2: I had a feel and they were gonna go front seven.

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01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 6: I mean it's I think edge was a and I

1659
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 6: know a lot of people didn't agree with it, but

1660
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Speaker 6: I think we all felt that was a need. Yeah,

1661
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 6: you know, it wasn't like banging the door we have

1662
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 6: to have we can't get out of this truck. But

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01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 6: I think it was as at least as big a

1664
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 6: need as wide receiver. Yeah. I just say, I think

1665
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 6: that's again, Judon goes down. What do you got.

1666
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 7: I mean, it's just this just a quick drop off,

1667
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,560
Speaker 7: and you're asking who Jay to play outside of what

1668
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 7: he's good at. I don't know if Jennings has any

1669
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 7: pass rush juice at all. I mean, I think he

1670
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 7: can stop the run a little bit as a stand

1671
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 7: up outside linebacker, So we'll see. I mean, I think

1672
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 7: trick wise had a good season last year, but you know,

1673
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 7: I think they need to continue to get those guys.

1674
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:52,560
Speaker 7: Those are bills kind of guys that I'm sure you

1675
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 7: know there are probably a handful of people that are,

1676
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:56,599
Speaker 7: you know, upset that the offense is kind of getting

1677
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,640
Speaker 7: ignored to this point, but it is easy.

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01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 6: To see what the need is and what they could

1679
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 6: potentially see him doing here. I got a bit.

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Speaker 8: I don't love the pick. I don't love the pick.

1681
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 8: I I'm not crazy about the player. I just don't

1682
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 8: necessarily see the flash or the playmaking ability. If you

1683
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:14,640
Speaker 8: were going to take an edge, I was fine with that,

1684
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:16,640
Speaker 8: but it had to be a guy that was going

1685
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 8: to impact the game. I think Kean White is going

1686
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 8: to come in and just be a solid in whatever

1687
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 8: role did they use him in. But I'm not sure

1688
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:25,679
Speaker 8: he's going to be a game changer for them upfront.

1689
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 8: And if you're going to take an edge with one

1690
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 8: of these picks over offense, like he kind of needed

1691
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 8: it to be somebody that was going to make a

1692
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Speaker 8: difference eventually.

1693
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Speaker 6: Maybe he does.

1694
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:35,639
Speaker 8: I could be wrong on it, but he was pretty

1695
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 8: he was where they picked him in terms of the

1696
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 8: run of edge defenders that went here. You know, I

1697
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:45,640
Speaker 8: think I had him right in this range, like.

1698
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 6: The player, you know, I think that's the question, and

1699
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 6: you feel that. I don't hate it.

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01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 2: I just don't know exactly where some people thought he

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01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 2: would go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, So that as of

1702
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 2: this moment, is the only picked that the Patriots have

1703
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 2: in the second round? Correct, They've got a third rounder

1704
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 2: coming up, so I guess there's still hope that they

1705
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 2: could package that third rounder where the fourth may and

1706
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 2: move into the second. Uh, you know, back into the second.

1707
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 2: But right now a little bit of a wait. Yeah,

1708
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 2: it could be a little bit of a wait for us.

1709
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 2: We'll be here until ten o'clock taking your calls and emails.

1710
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 2: And I know I haven't gotten to any emails yet,

1711
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 2: so why don't we do that? Have plenty to choose from,

1712
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 2: that's for sure. Let's see where would we go? Joe says,

1713
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 2: Evan is doing a great job. He seems to be

1714
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 2: on another level of expertise. One tiny critique. His nonsense

1715
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:44,440
Speaker 2: could use a little work. This is too little, too professional.

1716
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 2: Can we fight about tides or something? Come on, Paul.

1717
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 2: Wasn't it great how Bill just knew we could trade

1718
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 2: down and still get his guy.

1719
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 6: I'm not interested in fighting because I.

1720
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Speaker 2: Like that, but but you know, I kind of I

1721
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 2: kind of smirked though. And you know the trade was

1722
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 2: made and they took Branch, and you said, well, they

1723
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 2: they knew who they wanted because the Patriots got their

1724
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 2: pick in right away. Sometimes teams do that just to

1725
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 2: have people think that, oh, that wasn't the guy we want.

1726
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 6: Especially might carry themselves as being maybe a little bit

1727
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 6: more cerebrals.

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Speaker 8: Well, I'll say this, I that emailer is one hundred

1729
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 8: and ten percent right that I need to lighten up

1730
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 8: a little bit sometimes. All right, I'm not one for jokes.

1731
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Speaker 6: I'm not a good time.

1732
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 2: Well listen, if you want to see the lighter side

1733
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Speaker 2: of Evans, go to Patriots TikTok Kevin talk. Oh Sebastian

1734
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Speaker 2: Volmer on stage, Well, wow, why.

1735
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:52,720
Speaker 6: Will play a game in Germany this year? So I

1736
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 6: wanted to give a.

1737
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 25: Spot US in Germany and everywhere else in the world,

1738
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 25: but without but the select.

1739
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 8: Des I'm glad he said defensive end because I think

1740
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 8: he's truly a defensive end.

1741
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 6: She's he looks.

1742
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 8: I really don't think he's an edge guy. I think

1743
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 8: he's that it's hard to eighty five poss.

1744
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 6: I'm happy he didn't look fair he was.

1745
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 2: He wasn't too happy.

1746
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 7: I think he was shaking his head like I gotta

1747
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 7: go play for him.

1748
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:32,560
Speaker 6: See that was a weird reaction. Does that do it

1749
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 6: for what was the emailer? Does that work?

1750
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 2: What was that?

1751
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 6: Did you see his reaccurity? I didn't. That was watching

1752
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 6: over face and he was shaking his head like no,

1753
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 6: I don't. I mean if they were patting him on

1754
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:47,600
Speaker 6: the back like they were consoling him. Oh no, I

1755
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 6: got I gotta go look at that replay, like I mean,

1756
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 6: just reading his profile, you think you would be a

1757
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 6: little bit more dynamic, you know, a tight end. Who actually,

1758
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 6: I mean, I know it was that old dominion, but

1759
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 6: he played and caught passes as a freshman in back

1760
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 6: in like twenty eighteen, and you know he's he's got

1761
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,680
Speaker 6: the size of the profile, but then you know he

1762
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:09,759
Speaker 6: doesn't twive pounds. I mean, I think that your description,

1763
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 6: Mike of Dietrich Wise makes sense to me in my mind.

1764
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:14,680
Speaker 6: I'm like two hundred and eighty five pounds. That's a

1765
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 6: big that's a big guy. To call an edge. I

1766
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 6: agree with you guys saying it's more of a like

1767
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 6: a pure defensive end than like a dynamic edge. But

1768
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 6: it doesn't.

1769
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 7: I mean, it seems like you've seen Dietrich Wise stand

1770
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 7: up every now and then, but it's not like part

1771
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,599
Speaker 7: of the you know, it's just like time to time thing.

1772
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 7: So I mean, that's probably what it is. But I

1773
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 7: feel like he's he's a hand down front guy.

1774
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:36,640
Speaker 6: That's that's what he's gonna be as big boyd hit

1775
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 6: a whit.

1776
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 2: But I was before we got interrupted there, I was

1777
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 2: gonna say, if you want to see the lighter side

1778
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 2: of Evan, go to Patriots.

1779
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 6: Go to TikTok. That's where that's where he unleashes his fun.

1780
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:50,759
Speaker 2: John and Maynard Mass, I've been listening to your podcast

1781
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,559
Speaker 2: for the last month, and I love the draft research.

1782
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 2: We need an outside wide receiver. I was looking forward

1783
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 2: to trading up to the end of the first round

1784
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 2: to draft Flowers or to the beginning of the second

1785
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 2: round to draft Mingo. Seems like a missed opportunity to

1786
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:06,600
Speaker 2: at least take a shot on an offensive weapon to

1787
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 2: scare a defense. We have no weapons to scare a defense.

1788
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 2: Well maybe next year. Ps we need to trade up

1789
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 2: though we have too many picks.

1790
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:16,599
Speaker 6: It's a good email.

1791
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:17,759
Speaker 10: I agree tomorrow.

1792
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 8: Look, I understand that you know we were just talking

1793
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:22,639
Speaker 8: about you can't force it, and I think there's pretty

1794
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 8: clearly something up with Darnel Washington that is pushing him

1795
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 8: down the board, and maybe that's that's why he's not

1796
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:32,720
Speaker 8: an option here. But I think at some point I

1797
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 8: don't want to reach by a full round or two

1798
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:36,640
Speaker 8: on a receiver, but you're gonna have to take a

1799
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 8: receiver of some ilk, whether it's a tight end or

1800
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:43,919
Speaker 8: it's a wide receiver tonight or I can understand fans frustration.

1801
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 8: I mean, he took two defensive players, Christian Gonzalez hit

1802
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:49,600
Speaker 8: it out of the park, Keon White, Luke Warmon. I

1803
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 8: think he's somebody that's gonna have to wait and see.

1804
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 8: Let's prove it to me.

1805
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:53,720
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1806
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 8: I'm just not a I don't love this pick. I

1807
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 8: don't love the position. I don't love the player. If

1808
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 8: they had got and somebody that I.

1809
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 6: Thought would be a double digit sack guy, I would

1810
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 6: be I'd be thrilled about it. But I just don't.

1811
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 6: I don't get it.

1812
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:09,679
Speaker 8: I you know, why, why another one of these types

1813
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 8: of guys that's kind of where are you gonna play him?

1814
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 8: What's his position, what's what's his standout trades? Probably power,

1815
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 8: I guess, you know, in length, But is that really

1816
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:21,599
Speaker 8: what you need right now?

1817
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 6: To move the needle? It feels like one of those

1818
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 6: types of picks. To me, I wonder what is?

1819
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 14: What is?

1820
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 2: Oh, Mike and Evan are needed in ksph.

1821
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 6: Oh okay, let me let me go take care of

1822
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 6: this because I think we're just gonna do yeah one.

1823
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, h Deuce is gonna do some video obligations.

1824
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 2: Let's see. Sam writes in I like the Gonzales pick,

1825
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 2: and obviously there's great value there. But are there any

1826
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 2: concerns with his tackling ability Christian Gonzales.

1827
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 6: I know that there is some talk about that that

1828
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 6: he's he could be a little undisciplined as tackler. I

1829
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 6: listened to, you know, his position coach, and I know,

1830
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 6: you know, every year we do these, we talk to

1831
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 6: position coaches, and really I can count on one hand

1832
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 6: the amount of negatives that have ever been spoken about

1833
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 6: the players that these guys coach. But he talked about

1834
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:16,680
Speaker 6: that being something that he has really improved on and

1835
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 6: used to be he was very focused on form tackles

1836
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 6: and being perfect with his technique as opposed to just

1837
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 6: getting the guy on the ground. And now he's a

1838
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 6: little bit more, a little bit more results oriented rather

1839
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 6: than technique oriented, and that's not as big of an

1840
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 6: issue for him. Now we'll see when he starts playing,

1841
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 6: but that I have read that as a potential negative

1842
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:42,640
Speaker 6: on him in some of these recaps. But listening to

1843
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 6: Demetrius More I think is his name, his positional coach

1844
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 6: at Oregon didn't seem to think it was that big

1845
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 6: of an issue.

1846
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 8: No, I don't think that Christian Gonzales has any sort

1847
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 8: of want to issue or effort issue when it comes

1848
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 8: to tackling. You need to improve his technique. Last year

1849
01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 8: he only missed three tackles at Oregon. He missed eight

1850
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 8: the year before, but he seemed to clean it up

1851
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 8: pretty nicely last year with Oregon. So I think that's

1852
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 8: a little bit of an overblown thing. I look at

1853
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 8: there's some things to this game that he needs development.

1854
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 8: We mentioned his age, you know, he's he's a younger player,

1855
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 8: and he's not he's not a finished product just yet.

1856
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 8: But I don't really see anything on his film that

1857
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 8: screams fatal flaw, like this guy's not gonna make it

1858
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:21,720
Speaker 8: in the pros. There, not going to be a good

1859
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 8: player because of reason X, and certainly not tackling. I mean,

1860
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:28,799
Speaker 8: I look, I I I feel like tackling with corners

1861
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 8: is to begin with is a little bit of something

1862
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 8: that we're stressing over that I totally agrees if you

1863
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 8: were drafting, if you were drafting a corner to tackle,

1864
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 8: then you should have just drafted a linebacker as far

1865
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:41,679
Speaker 8: as I'm concerned.

1866
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 2: Uh, do we mentioned that Washington took Drtavius Martin and

1867
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay took your guy Cody mout Ah.

1868
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1869
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 8: Martin was one of was one of my guys to

1870
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 8: a versatile defensive back and play the nickel, can play safety.

1871
01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:59,599
Speaker 8: I thought he would be an interesting player for them

1872
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 8: in that Devin mccordy role.

1873
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 2: Okay, so the Steelers around the clock. Let's get back

1874
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 2: to the phones. We've got Tom in New Jersey. What's

1875
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:08,639
Speaker 2: up Tom?

1876
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 5: Tom?

1877
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 2: Hello?

1878
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 14: Hello?

1879
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 2: Yes, Tom, go ahead?

1880
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 4: Hey, how are you guys? First time called it, A

1881
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:22,679
Speaker 4: long time listener, really enjoyed the show. I just wanted

1882
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 4: to kind of get you guys with my hot take

1883
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 4: on the whole Patricia thing from last year. I think

1884
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 4: Belichick really wanted O'Brien last year, but that out of

1885
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 4: respect for Saban and maybe O'Brien didn't want to come

1886
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 4: right away, he kind of just used Patricia's like a stopgap,

1887
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 4: and because rather than him hire somebody else, if they

1888
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 4: did well, how could you really fire him at the

1889
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:49,760
Speaker 4: end of the year. So I think kind of the

1890
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 4: pickle along for him. But you know, he just kind

1891
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 4: of didn't want to put anyone in that spot because

1892
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 4: you know, ultimately he wanted Billy O'Brien to come, and

1893
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 4: the everything on the cake was that he didn't have

1894
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 4: to pay him either.

1895
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:05,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I also think I think there's credence to

1896
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 2: that he wanted O'Brien couldn't you know, couldn't get him

1897
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 2: right away. But I do think that he thought the

1898
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:16,640
Speaker 2: Patricia put the Patricia thing was gonna work, you know,

1899
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 2: and if it had worked, Bill O'Brien wouldn't be here now.

1900
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 2: So I think once he decided that he was gonna

1901
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:25,640
Speaker 2: go with Patricia, I do think he thought it was

1902
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 2: gonna work.

1903
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 9: It.

1904
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 2: You know, he didn't look at it as just a

1905
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 2: one year thing, and as we obviously know, nothing works.

1906
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:37,960
Speaker 2: So but I do think that I think had he

1907
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 2: had his choice last year, he would have brought an O'Brien.

1908
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 2: I agree with that, gotcha.

1909
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 4: And then if I can asked one question, just I

1910
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 4: was kind of hoping to see Branch fall to us.

1911
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 4: You know, we got swooped in by the Lions. If

1912
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 4: I've been still there kind of like, what do you

1913
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 4: think we should go for? You know we're gonna trade

1914
01:25:57,520 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 4: back in. You know, I was kind of looking at

1915
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:03,600
Speaker 4: baby get either Downs or like I said, I was

1916
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 4: hoping Branch to kind of replace mccordy, or if it's

1917
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 4: like a tackle we should go for.

1918
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:13,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, I look, I think that at this point we

1919
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:16,680
Speaker 8: could see the needs at corner and edge. But now

1920
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 8: you really have to start thinking about some offense. And

1921
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 8: I understand the board might not have fallen in the

1922
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 8: direction that the offense made sense in these first two rounds,

1923
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 8: but I look at guys like Down, certainly, Marvin Mims,

1924
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 8: Cedric Tillman, we've talked about a little bit. Maybe at

1925
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 8: the tight end position, someone like Darnell Washington. If the

1926
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 8: medical red flag isn't too big of a deal, I

1927
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:39,720
Speaker 8: think a tackle you can start to think about maybe

1928
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 8: the third and fourth round for that. Tyler Stein from

1929
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 8: Alabama is a player that played for Bill O'Brien last year,

1930
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:49,639
Speaker 8: played left tackle in Tuscaloosa. Maybe he's someone that bill

1931
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 8: O'Brien signs off on and think they can bring him in.

1932
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 8: I think that do you really need to start hitting

1933
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:57,720
Speaker 8: on offense at some point though, I mean, thanks, this

1934
01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 8: is starting to get a little bit dicey in terms

1935
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 8: of adding talent to that side of the ball.

1936
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 2: Seawan said Vancouver, Hey, Sean.

1937
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 21: Hey guys.

1938
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 26: Well, the other player that i'd like to see the

1939
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 26: Patriots take a right tackle Dewant Jones, and I want

1940
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:16,559
Speaker 26: them to move up as well because I also still

1941
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 26: I hope for a Mushington. I don't know what's going

1942
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:20,720
Speaker 26: on with the medical I don't think what does. But

1943
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 26: everyone's been clamoring for him and he's still there.

1944
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 2: It's yeah, wide receiver, yep, Washington, Washington and crap right, yeah,

1945
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:33,640
Speaker 2: yeah they are.

1946
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:37,719
Speaker 6: I just said we got a little while though before picks.

1947
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1948
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 7: I just feel like you kind of have to wait

1949
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:41,640
Speaker 7: and see what's going to happen here a shocks, you know,

1950
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 7: ten to fifteen picks before you really get a sense

1951
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 7: of I mean Washington, I mean he might not be there.

1952
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 7: Dwan Jones, he might not be there. I mean there's

1953
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:50,640
Speaker 7: I think that the talent's going to start to go

1954
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:51,879
Speaker 7: now here after the second.

1955
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, uh Nixon, La, what's up? Nick?

1956
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:58,760
Speaker 20: Hey, guys, how you doing. I'm really just calling to

1957
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 20: Ben here this key on White pick. I'm a big

1958
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 20: draft guy.

1959
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 27: I love the drafts and watching it.

1960
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:07,719
Speaker 20: That's ninety eight. This is like the most frustrating Bill

1961
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:10,639
Speaker 20: Belichick type pick. To me, like, this is so Bill.

1962
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 20: It's like like I think Evan's got a heavy footed

1963
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 20: Ryan Steel, Like when Nikhil Harry would get a screen,

1964
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 20: it would take forever for him to turn around and go.

1965
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 20: If this guy moves so slow.

1966
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 27: I get he's big.

1967
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 20: I just I don't understand he's just another body. Like

1968
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:26,639
Speaker 20: three years from around, we're gonna be like, oh yeah

1969
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 20: that guy Kean Whity Yeah, yeah, he's on the team.

1970
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 20: It just is like sort of a forgettable just big presence.

1971
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 20: I know it's in need. I just I don't understand

1972
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:37,480
Speaker 20: why Bill is like I hate so it was fascinated

1973
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 20: by this type of player, like not twitchy, just big,

1974
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 20: just a presence.

1975
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 27: So I've just been thinking about that.

1976
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:46,719
Speaker 20: And also I'm curious as to what you guys would

1977
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 20: have thought we were maybe trading up for. Hear these

1978
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 20: rumors we're trying to get into the early second back

1979
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:54,599
Speaker 20: in the first I love guys like Mouth and Branch.

1980
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 20: I think those are the types of players we need,

1981
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:57,799
Speaker 20: we need neat identity.

1982
01:28:57,920 --> 01:28:58,680
Speaker 17: We don't have any of that.

1983
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:01,720
Speaker 27: I think guy thought we might have been trading up for.

1984
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 2: I think Branch might have been the guy maybe, But

1985
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 2: I just don't.

1986
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 6: I don't love. I don't love necessarily the idea of like,

1987
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 6: you know, all these rumors about trading up and they

1988
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 6: didn't trade up well, like I think we talked about it,

1989
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 6: I don't. I don't really have a lot of criticism

1990
01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:23,879
Speaker 6: for that, because who, like what what is the specific

1991
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,679
Speaker 6: player like they must have had somebody when everybody talks

1992
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:29,920
Speaker 6: about the lack of like, you know, the high quality

1993
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 6: of talent, you know, I think as those guys start

1994
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 6: getting drafted, I think it becomes a little bit more pigeonholed.

1995
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 6: I think that with all the picks they have, they

1996
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:41,720
Speaker 6: should be able to move around a little bit. And

1997
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:46,920
Speaker 6: I'm surprised they haven't. But I'm not like, I like,

1998
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 6: we were just asked to give an opinion on Keon

1999
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 6: White and and I'm sort of disappointed that they didn't

2000
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 6: take you know, offense there. But I mean, truth be told,

2001
01:29:57,439 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 6: I don't really. I mean, I Washington in craft with

2002
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:02,439
Speaker 6: two guys that popped into my head. But I'm not

2003
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 6: gonna tell you that it's a travesty that those guys

2004
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:06,120
Speaker 6: are still on the board right now.

2005
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:09,519
Speaker 8: Like I can't say that I would rather them trade

2006
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:10,639
Speaker 8: back than take Keyon White.

2007
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:13,559
Speaker 6: I just see you don't like key On White, which

2008
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 6: is fine. Like, I don't know as much about.

2009
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 8: The caller that we just had. I think nailed the evaluation.

2010
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 8: There's nothing eye popping about his game. He's not twitchy,

2011
01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:28,000
Speaker 8: he's not explosive. Uh, he's a three to four defensive

2012
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 8: end that's gonna hold the fort, that's gonna hold the

2013
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:32,840
Speaker 8: point of attack. He's gonna two gap, he's gonna use

2014
01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:34,679
Speaker 8: his length, and he's gonna use his power to play

2015
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 8: the run. And what where does that get you? This

2016
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:40,080
Speaker 8: is a draft where they really how.

2017
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:42,080
Speaker 2: Many times have we said, boy, they really stink against

2018
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 2: the run lately?

2019
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 8: And how much does that? I just don't know how

2020
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:47,080
Speaker 8: much that really as a factor. Like do I care

2021
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:49,799
Speaker 8: how much the Buffalo Bills run the ball on the Patriots?

2022
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 6: No?

2023
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:52,519
Speaker 8: I care how many touchdown passes Josh Allen throws all

2024
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:54,720
Speaker 8: over them. Yeah, And He's not somebody that's gonna get

2025
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:57,479
Speaker 8: after the passer effectively if they wanted to draft an

2026
01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:00,080
Speaker 8: edge guy. I totally saw the reasoning and they and

2027
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 8: the thinking. But isn't the idea to draft the edge

2028
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:04,719
Speaker 8: guy to replace josh Ucha?

2029
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 6: Right?

2030
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 8: I mean, you're you're not going to pay josh Ucca?

2031
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 18: Or are you?

2032
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 2: Are?

2033
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:10,759
Speaker 8: You know you have one year left on Ja's contract.

2034
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 8: Judon's coming up on the end of his contract too.

2035
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 8: I don't think they're going to pay josh Uca. I

2036
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 8: don't know about the rest of you guys, but I

2037
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:18,960
Speaker 8: don't see them doing that. And this is not a

2038
01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 8: player that's going to replace josh Ucha. This is a

2039
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:22,960
Speaker 8: player that's going to play on the inside with his

2040
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 8: hand in the dirt. So where is the vision? Like,

2041
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 8: what where does he get on the field? Well, what's

2042
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 8: his role for this team next year? I just I

2043
01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 8: don't I can't find it. Is he going to probably

2044
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 8: Tetrick Wise? Like is he replacing Lawrence Guy who's bigger

2045
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:38,560
Speaker 8: and stouter than he is?

2046
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:40,800
Speaker 7: So well, I mean, how do you feel about those guys?

2047
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:42,800
Speaker 7: How do you feel about Rick Wise and Lawrence Guy?

2048
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 8: I mean, I thought Dietrick WWI is coming off the

2049
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:45,240
Speaker 8: best year of his career.

2050
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 6: I agree with that. Early. I think Lawrence Guy is

2051
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 6: a candidate. Yeah, I mean he's not this guy, Lawrence Guy, right.

2052
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 8: But Lawrence Guy is much bigger than he is.

2053
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:57,719
Speaker 6: No, absolutely, but I just think might not necessarily be related.

2054
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:00,120
Speaker 6: But I think Lawrence Guy is one of those those

2055
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:03,000
Speaker 6: guys that they pulled the plug on a year early

2056
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 6: rather than a year late. Veteran making a little bit

2057
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:09,560
Speaker 6: of money, not a ton, But that's that. I'm just

2058
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 6: going by history.

2059
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see, the Steelers took Keanu Benton from Wisconsin

2060
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 2: defensive tackle.

2061
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 6: Dolphins took Cam Smith too. Yeah, but I'm going I

2062
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:23,040
Speaker 6: think that's a pretty good pick for them. I think

2063
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:25,600
Speaker 6: I think they got two good corners right now, and

2064
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 6: they got a third now to And now you have

2065
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 6: a young corner who was one of those guys, depending

2066
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 6: on where you looked, was rated to go, uh you

2067
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:38,080
Speaker 6: know a little bit higher than this, you know, green Bay.

2068
01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:39,800
Speaker 6: This particular list has him twenty ninth.

2069
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 2: Green Bay took Jaden Reid Michigan State we downs downs

2070
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:45,799
Speaker 2: hasn't gone yet.

2071
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:49,880
Speaker 8: No downs to the sizes he's downsing because of his size.

2072
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:53,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, read the same isn't read. I mean reads

2073
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 7: is kind of the same.

2074
01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:56,559
Speaker 6: I like to read, but I like to read. Then

2075
01:32:57,520 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 6: that's that's disappointing. Yeah, I don't know. I gotta dig

2076
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 6: more into two Keiomite.

2077
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:05,040
Speaker 7: I was kind of dismissive of him, and I, you know,

2078
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:07,840
Speaker 7: I obviously respect what Evan's saying about him. I just,

2079
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 7: you know, I think in the right system, you never

2080
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:12,599
Speaker 7: know with some of these guys. So I mean, I'm

2081
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 7: willing to give him a chance and try to find

2082
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:16,680
Speaker 7: some some but I hear every you know, I hear

2083
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 7: everything you're saying.

2084
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:20,800
Speaker 6: It's also just tough because I think we talk all

2085
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:21,120
Speaker 6: about the.

2086
01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:23,639
Speaker 7: Edge need and I think to your point to even

2087
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 7: feel like you filled that, you know, like I don't

2088
01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:26,760
Speaker 7: know for sure.

2089
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:28,840
Speaker 6: I love the way Evon said he goes. You know,

2090
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:31,160
Speaker 6: I'm okay with taking an edge guy, but take an

2091
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:32,840
Speaker 6: edge guy, yeah right, Yeah.

2092
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:35,320
Speaker 8: That that I think is the whole thing to me,

2093
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 8: is that he he is a three four end in

2094
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:43,519
Speaker 8: their system. If they're sticking to that system, he's I

2095
01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:45,840
Speaker 8: don't think that he's athletic enough or loose enough to

2096
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 8: stand up. And so if you're gonna the whole idea

2097
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:53,240
Speaker 8: of of us arguing for them taking an edge guy

2098
01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:55,200
Speaker 8: when we started talking about edge guys in the first

2099
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 8: round on the show and things like that, was to

2100
01:33:57,840 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 8: take an edge guy because you think you're not paying josh.

2101
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 8: This guy is not josh u j This is nothing,

2102
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:07,040
Speaker 8: totally different type of player. So where what's the what's

2103
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:09,800
Speaker 8: the vision of getting him on the field? What's the

2104
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:12,599
Speaker 8: role for him next year? When in a draft where

2105
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:14,719
Speaker 8: I just really felt like they needed to come away

2106
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 8: with at least two impact guys that were gonna help

2107
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:19,680
Speaker 8: the twenty twenty three Patriots. This guy might help the

2108
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:22,760
Speaker 8: Patriots down the line, and I'm willing to give him

2109
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:25,080
Speaker 8: a chance and all that stuff, But what's he doing

2110
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:27,840
Speaker 8: to help this team this year? I don't even know

2111
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:29,960
Speaker 8: if he's gonna get on the field against some of

2112
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 8: these other guys that they have already in the room

2113
01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:32,799
Speaker 8: and the veterans.

2114
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:35,000
Speaker 7: I'd have to look at Sam Roberts measure enough, but

2115
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 7: he feels kind of in that in that range kind

2116
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 7: of too, you know, he feels like that that kind

2117
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:41,240
Speaker 7: of body type a little bit. I'd have to look

2118
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 7: at the measurables, But I mean, did.

2119
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 2: Some people have this guy, you know, maybe lower first

2120
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:48,880
Speaker 2: round some people.

2121
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:51,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, you know, every look, it's everybody has

2122
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:54,880
Speaker 8: a different opinion on these guys. My I don't think

2123
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:58,080
Speaker 8: he's a bad football player. I just don't really see

2124
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:01,840
Speaker 8: the need for for him. If you wanted to draft

2125
01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:03,559
Speaker 8: an edge guy, then draft an edge guy. You drafted

2126
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:06,439
Speaker 8: a three to four end. I just don't know where

2127
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 8: is he playing and what's his role on the team,

2128
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:10,880
Speaker 8: and he'll play on the.

2129
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:14,599
Speaker 6: End o difference between a defensive end and an edge guy.

2130
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:15,840
Speaker 6: I understand what that was saying.

2131
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean when you think of edge guy, you

2132
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:19,120
Speaker 2: think disruptive.

2133
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know.

2134
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 7: But I mean, just to offer this up, this is

2135
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:24,640
Speaker 7: NFL dot Com offering a quote on him from a

2136
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 7: personal executive for an AFC team. You have to see

2137
01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:28,400
Speaker 7: him in person to get a feel for how he

2138
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:31,240
Speaker 7: moves around and how big he is. Really athletic, with

2139
01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 7: a high floor, he'll be a riser, so you know,

2140
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:36,479
Speaker 7: I mean, there's a reason why I mean he was

2141
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:38,000
Speaker 7: projected there in rounds one to two.

2142
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 6: I don't know.

2143
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:41,200
Speaker 7: I think this is the kind of guy where you

2144
01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:42,680
Speaker 7: don't really know what you got and I don't think

2145
01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:46,200
Speaker 7: expectations are very high. But I do think that there's

2146
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:48,720
Speaker 7: a need to be better on defense, and I don't know.

2147
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:52,760
Speaker 8: I think that the sky whoever that was a high

2148
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:54,720
Speaker 8: He's got a high floor. That's what he said, right,

2149
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 8: That's exactly how I describe him. He's a high floor player,

2150
01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:01,120
Speaker 8: which there's nothing wrong with that. But didn't I just

2151
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:03,720
Speaker 8: I was feeling I was clamoring for ceiling. I was,

2152
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 8: I was clamoring for upside, and that's totally what they

2153
01:36:06,439 --> 01:36:09,040
Speaker 8: got last night with Christian Gonzalez. So yeah, I think

2154
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 8: Keon White can come in. He can play a role.

2155
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 8: He can be solid in that role. But they got

2156
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 8: enough guys that are solid in a role. You know,

2157
01:36:17,560 --> 01:36:19,280
Speaker 8: they had they had to take a chance on some

2158
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:21,280
Speaker 8: of these guys with some higher upside. I don't know

2159
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:21,800
Speaker 8: if they did.

2160
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:25,720
Speaker 2: That here, let's see Matt and Carlsbath says, if ke

2161
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:27,640
Speaker 2: On White is so bad, what are the reasons some

2162
01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:29,599
Speaker 2: thought he would be drafted in the first round.

2163
01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:32,800
Speaker 8: I didn't say he was bad. I just he's just

2164
01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:33,720
Speaker 8: not my type of guy.

2165
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:36,519
Speaker 6: That's it. I have I have an answer for this, Okay,

2166
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:39,120
Speaker 6: and stick with me here, and I'm gonna stay upfront

2167
01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:41,560
Speaker 6: that I don't know and I've said this already. I

2168
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 6: don't know what tremendous amount about ki On White, So

2169
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:45,840
Speaker 6: this isn't Keon White specific. I'm gonna leave that to

2170
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:49,439
Speaker 6: Mike and Evan who have watched far more tape on

2171
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:53,720
Speaker 6: these guys than I have. Okay, but you can't say

2172
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 6: the experts got it wrong with Christian Gonzalez when he

2173
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:03,120
Speaker 6: went ten picks after he was widely considered to have

2174
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:05,920
Speaker 6: been off the board, and then say, well, well the

2175
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:10,240
Speaker 6: experts think that Keon White could have gone ten twenty

2176
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:16,120
Speaker 6: picks higher. Yeah, the NFL didn't. The NFL thought Christian

2177
01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:20,519
Speaker 6: Gonzalez was seventeen, and the NFL thought that Keon White

2178
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 6: was forty six. So what the experts said? Obviously. I

2179
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:29,719
Speaker 6: went through a number of mock drafts today. The best

2180
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:33,720
Speaker 6: one I found had three hits. Right, nobody, because it's

2181
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:36,639
Speaker 6: a ridiculously hard thing to do, YEA, When you don't

2182
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:38,800
Speaker 6: have the information, you're not the team's.

2183
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:41,720
Speaker 2: Neil and new Brunswick says Daniel Jeremiah had White as

2184
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:44,240
Speaker 2: his twenty eighth ranked player. He said he was a

2185
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 2: converted tight end who was twitchy, unlike our callers perspective.

2186
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:51,280
Speaker 2: I know we all have to take to Evans' analysis,

2187
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 2: but there are other opinions that many thought he was

2188
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:56,559
Speaker 2: a good player. Also, he looked pissed he wasn't drafted

2189
01:37:56,640 --> 01:37:58,439
Speaker 2: last night as he was in the green room, so

2190
01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:01,040
Speaker 2: he was pissed when he got drafted. So he's got

2191
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:03,280
Speaker 2: a chip on his shoulder. So can we let the

2192
01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:06,040
Speaker 2: kid come to training camp and play before we cut him?

2193
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:06,920
Speaker 6: I knew this.

2194
01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:13,120
Speaker 2: Daniel Jia, Daniel Jeremy, Daniel Jeremiah problem. Daniel Jeremiah is

2195
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 2: best at this and actually worked in the league.

2196
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:17,320
Speaker 6: I agree with that.

2197
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:19,439
Speaker 2: Someone by Evan a Jersey Mike Subbers.

2198
01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:24,280
Speaker 8: Okay, just to be totally clear, all right, I have

2199
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:27,479
Speaker 8: nothing wrong with There's nothing wrong with Kean White the player.

2200
01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:30,559
Speaker 8: He's got some upside. He's got some things going for him.

2201
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:33,840
Speaker 8: I mentioned all of them. He's a physical guy. I

2202
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:36,559
Speaker 8: think he's a bowling ball. He's got power, he's got length,

2203
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:38,720
Speaker 8: all these types of things that they cover it right,

2204
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:41,439
Speaker 8: And I just don't like the position the player of

2205
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:42,240
Speaker 8: that that they took.

2206
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:44,880
Speaker 6: I I don't think that he changes the equation for him.

2207
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:45,200
Speaker 6: That's it.

2208
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:48,360
Speaker 8: I maybe Kean White ends up being a great football player.

2209
01:38:48,439 --> 01:38:50,479
Speaker 6: I don't know. I'm not saying that he can't be good.

2210
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:53,720
Speaker 6: I'm just saying that why this why now, Like, why

2211
01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:56,200
Speaker 6: why is this the spot that you're looking at, Like

2212
01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:58,479
Speaker 6: in terms of like the rankings and all the stuff

2213
01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 6: that everybody wants to cherry pick the one that suits

2214
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:05,360
Speaker 6: their argument. I did a Google search today, Freddie has

2215
01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:08,760
Speaker 6: I think the Dame Brugla one. So I did a

2216
01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:12,760
Speaker 6: Google search today on top one hundred prospects and I

2217
01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 6: found one that was compiled as an aggregate of a

2218
01:39:17,240 --> 01:39:19,720
Speaker 6: lot of different top hundred lists. Kean White on this

2219
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:23,920
Speaker 6: list is fifty nine. Okay, So like, there you go.

2220
01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:28,839
Speaker 6: You can find someone to either back up or dispute

2221
01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:32,240
Speaker 6: your view. Again, I'm not I don't know what tremendous

2222
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:34,320
Speaker 6: amount about this guy. I've watched them a little bit,

2223
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:36,600
Speaker 6: but not anywhere near as much as you guys have.

2224
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:39,880
Speaker 6: So I'll defer to you guys. I think that there

2225
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:42,519
Speaker 6: was I think it was time to sort of like

2226
01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 6: look unless you could get like a real impact player,

2227
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:47,519
Speaker 6: I think it was time to look at offense there.

2228
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:49,479
Speaker 6: That's what I'm a little disappointed at, not the player.

2229
01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:51,840
Speaker 6: I don't know enough about the player to be happy

2230
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:52,680
Speaker 6: or sad about them.

2231
01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:55,280
Speaker 8: I think that's exactly where I'm at. I just I

2232
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 8: wish that they had gone offense with this pick. They

2233
01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 8: went defense last night. They got their corner last night,

2234
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:02,760
Speaker 8: and I think there were other This is a deep

2235
01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:04,720
Speaker 8: edge class to good edge class, and I think there

2236
01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 8: were other guys in this skill set that they could

2237
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 8: have gotten later on and maybe grabbed somebody on the

2238
01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:11,920
Speaker 8: offensive side of the football. I will say, you know

2239
01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 8: a lot of the guys that I had graded out

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01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:16,720
Speaker 8: higher than Keon White or were off the board at

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01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:20,759
Speaker 8: this point. You know, Derek Hall, Isaiah Foski, bjo Jalari,

2242
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:23,080
Speaker 8: you know some of the guys that went last night.

2243
01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:26,320
Speaker 8: So I had him right about here and they took

2244
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:28,720
Speaker 8: him right about here. I just would have rathered a

2245
01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 8: different player.

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01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:34,040
Speaker 2: That's it, Matt in Connecticut. Here's what ESPN said how

2247
01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:36,600
Speaker 2: he would fit. White is the ideal fit for the

2248
01:40:36,640 --> 01:40:41,080
Speaker 2: Patron's versatile defensive scheme. With Matt Juden crashing off one edge,

2249
01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:42,880
Speaker 2: White could use his power and speed to make an

2250
01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:46,160
Speaker 2: impact as both a defensive and potentially a defensive tackle.

2251
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:48,719
Speaker 2: Given his size and strength, he is similar in ways

2252
01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:52,080
Speaker 2: to Dietrich Wise and can play a similar type of

2253
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 2: role as a rookie.

2254
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:56,479
Speaker 8: Absolutely, I don't disagree with any of that. Besides the

2255
01:40:56,920 --> 01:40:59,240
Speaker 8: use of the word speed, I would I would not

2256
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:04,240
Speaker 8: call him an explosive first step player. I would call

2257
01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:08,320
Speaker 8: him a bowling ball, somebody that just is a wrecker

2258
01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:11,280
Speaker 8: in between the trenches that can really get off into

2259
01:41:11,439 --> 01:41:13,080
Speaker 8: people and push people around it.

2260
01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:15,720
Speaker 2: Better or not as good as Ty Warren was.

2261
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:19,720
Speaker 6: I saw someone compare him to Ty Warren's. I love

2262
01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:22,360
Speaker 6: Ty Warren. I don't necessarily need Ty Warren in the

2263
01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:23,400
Speaker 6: twenty twenty three.

2264
01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 7: Okay, no, Ty WARN's three hundred pounds plus, right, I.

2265
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:31,840
Speaker 2: Mean Chad in Atlanta? Well, Belichick giveth and Belichick taketh away.

2266
01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:34,519
Speaker 2: These two picks were on the complete opposite end of

2267
01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:37,120
Speaker 2: the spectrum when it comes to excitement and fan approval.

2268
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:39,679
Speaker 2: Is Bill going to try and get an offensive weapon?

2269
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:42,920
Speaker 2: Isn't the goal to help Mac? Or is he sabotaging him?

2270
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:45,479
Speaker 2: Don't like the white pick at all?

2271
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:51,040
Speaker 7: Well, I don't think he's sabotaging him, But I do

2272
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:55,680
Speaker 7: think that you're quickly running the course of there just

2273
01:41:55,720 --> 01:41:58,599
Speaker 7: aren't a lot of these immediate impact kind of guys

2274
01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:00,800
Speaker 7: that are that are left. And you know, I think

2275
01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:02,840
Speaker 7: you're you're okay to swallow that at a position like

2276
01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:04,800
Speaker 7: tight end where you have two guys under contract for

2277
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:07,000
Speaker 7: the next year. But you know, I get, I get

2278
01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:09,559
Speaker 7: what everybody wants. They want one of those tackles maybe,

2279
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:11,639
Speaker 7: but I mean everybody really probably wants a wide receiver.

2280
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:11,880
Speaker 9: You know.

2281
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:14,080
Speaker 7: I think if they had taken Josh Downs right there,

2282
01:42:14,439 --> 01:42:15,599
Speaker 7: everybody would have been happy.

2283
01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:19,600
Speaker 6: But Josh Downs isn't isn't gone yet, So you know,

2284
01:42:19,720 --> 01:42:21,960
Speaker 6: it's which is part of my point, Like, you know,

2285
01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:26,960
Speaker 6: when you like a guy like we all like Christian Gonzalez,

2286
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:29,640
Speaker 6: we're able to say what a steal. You got him

2287
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:31,519
Speaker 6: ten picks later then everybody thought he was going to go.

2288
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:34,080
Speaker 6: And when you kind of Lukewarman a guy, because I

2289
01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:36,320
Speaker 6: don't want to say we don't like Keon White, let's say, well,

2290
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:39,040
Speaker 6: Luke warm on the pack, he's fine. Yeah, Well you know, well,

2291
01:42:39,439 --> 01:42:42,160
Speaker 6: what are the experts know, like they thought he was

2292
01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:44,280
Speaker 6: going to go, Well it doesn't work that way.

2293
01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:46,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, Or what if they had traded up to thirty

2294
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 7: two for Washington, you know, like we would have been like,

2295
01:42:49,200 --> 01:42:51,880
Speaker 7: oh my god, they did it, but he's still coming in.

2296
01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:53,400
Speaker 6: It's also just to that.

2297
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:55,559
Speaker 8: Point, like I think people think I'm bashing the pick,

2298
01:42:56,040 --> 01:42:58,400
Speaker 8: but last night I was elated, so like, I'm just

2299
01:42:58,479 --> 01:42:59,800
Speaker 8: trying to give it to you the way that it is,

2300
01:42:59,920 --> 01:43:01,760
Speaker 8: like the way I feel. I watch a lot of

2301
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:03,840
Speaker 8: these guys. I study a lot of these guys. I

2302
01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:06,439
Speaker 8: put a lot of work into it. And he's fine.

2303
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 6: That's what.

2304
01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:10,639
Speaker 8: I can't describe him any other way. And we'll see

2305
01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:13,240
Speaker 8: where he plays and we'll see what happens. But just

2306
01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 8: the position that he plays and the way that he

2307
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:19,960
Speaker 8: plays it, to me, is just another one of those patriots.

2308
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:22,040
Speaker 8: Like he's gonna bring his lunch pail to work every

2309
01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:24,519
Speaker 8: single day and he's gonna do his job, and he's

2310
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:27,200
Speaker 8: gonna make, you know, an impact in that sort of vein.

2311
01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 8: But I don't necessarily see somebody that has elite, game

2312
01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:34,519
Speaker 8: changing type of potential. And I think that's what this

2313
01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:37,599
Speaker 8: team needs and so cool we can play a role

2314
01:43:37,760 --> 01:43:39,760
Speaker 8: in their defense. That's what That's what he's got.

2315
01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:43,120
Speaker 6: Two quick things. The Chiefs. I believe took that wide

2316
01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:45,040
Speaker 6: receiver from SMU that I liked that you guys didn't,

2317
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:50,480
Speaker 6: But you guys said that he looked kind of irritated

2318
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:52,840
Speaker 6: when he got picked. Did you see. So I'm just

2319
01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:55,599
Speaker 6: someone on Twitter. I don't know who it is said

2320
01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:59,640
Speaker 6: that he got a little FTB VIDs. I don't know

2321
01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:01,960
Speaker 6: what that. Yeah, he does. He got a little emotional

2322
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:04,320
Speaker 6: when they saw the pick announced on TV. So I

2323
01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:06,360
Speaker 6: don't know does that mean emotional like he was mad

2324
01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:10,160
Speaker 6: or emotional? Maybe we misread because I didn't see his

2325
01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:15,679
Speaker 6: mama was crying. I saw his mom last night, his daddy,

2326
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:19,559
Speaker 6: his mama. I will say this for Kean White for sure.

2327
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:22,439
Speaker 6: The NFL did him a disservice by inviting him to

2328
01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:24,560
Speaker 6: the draft last night because he was never going in

2329
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:26,960
Speaker 6: the first round. I don't know what intel. So maybe

2330
01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:32,600
Speaker 6: that's why some people are like, no, well he was Yeah.

2331
01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:33,679
Speaker 8: He was never going in the first round. They brought

2332
01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:35,960
Speaker 8: him out to Kansas City in the green room, and

2333
01:44:37,120 --> 01:44:39,120
Speaker 8: that's embarrassing. It is so maybe he does have that

2334
01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:40,120
Speaker 8: chip under his shoulder.

2335
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:42,600
Speaker 2: I wouldn't go if they asked me to go.

2336
01:44:43,960 --> 01:44:48,920
Speaker 6: You know, he's not that's not Yeah, he's not happy.

2337
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:51,759
Speaker 6: His mother is crying. He's not well. Who I assume

2338
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:55,080
Speaker 6: is his mother? Yeah, he was not. They did not

2339
01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:57,360
Speaker 6: look happy. The only possible explain might just show me

2340
01:44:57,439 --> 01:44:59,720
Speaker 6: the video was that he was just.

2341
01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:01,720
Speaker 7: Still frustrated from last night that they made him come

2342
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:04,040
Speaker 7: and sit and he was just like finally, you know,

2343
01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 7: I mean that's what I can only.

2344
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:07,599
Speaker 6: Hope that everybody I'll ask him about it. I just wonder,

2345
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:09,160
Speaker 6: like everybody will welcome him.

2346
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:12,080
Speaker 8: It was it his agent? Was it the league that

2347
01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:14,240
Speaker 8: was telling him he was going to get drafted last night?

2348
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:16,519
Speaker 8: Like what was the motivation of going to the Because

2349
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:18,840
Speaker 8: I really do genuinely feel bad for him because there

2350
01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:21,040
Speaker 8: was no chance he was going last night, and he

2351
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:23,360
Speaker 8: sat in that green room for thirty one picks and

2352
01:45:23,479 --> 01:45:25,599
Speaker 8: all of us knew that he wasn't going last night,

2353
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:27,599
Speaker 8: and and he was, yet he was still sitting there.

2354
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:31,280
Speaker 8: So I wonder how that's going to affect him in

2355
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:32,320
Speaker 8: a positive way.

2356
01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:33,120
Speaker 2: Take it out on the.

2357
01:45:33,160 --> 01:45:33,920
Speaker 6: Field, I think.

2358
01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:35,280
Speaker 7: I think part of the hard thing too, is that

2359
01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:38,320
Speaker 7: with Gonzalez, you know, we're going to see him in

2360
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:40,360
Speaker 7: a week or two out here, and he's a cornerback,

2361
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:42,840
Speaker 7: and he's a really athletic guy, and you're instantly going

2362
01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:44,920
Speaker 7: to be able to watch him and get some kind

2363
01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:47,360
Speaker 7: of just idea of him. And it's a lot harder

2364
01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:48,800
Speaker 7: with a guy like ke On White. You have no

2365
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:50,679
Speaker 7: idea where they're going to really line him up. They're

2366
01:45:50,720 --> 01:45:52,519
Speaker 7: not going to play really physical, and you know, it's

2367
01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 7: just these are these are shorts and not you know, helmets.

2368
01:45:55,560 --> 01:45:58,479
Speaker 7: So it's it's harder to build excitement with him until

2369
01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:00,519
Speaker 7: you get to like day one of pads and even then,

2370
01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:02,320
Speaker 7: you know, what, have they even hit really anymore?

2371
01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:02,519
Speaker 6: Ye?

2372
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:05,280
Speaker 2: All right, So we're on the twenty fourth pick of

2373
01:46:05,439 --> 01:46:07,960
Speaker 2: the second round. That's Kansas City. Paul, you said they've

2374
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:08,719
Speaker 2: already chosen.

2375
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:12,559
Speaker 6: I think they took uh, yeah, Rashie Rice, wide receiver

2376
01:46:12,680 --> 01:46:14,519
Speaker 6: out of SMU, who I liked a little bit. I

2377
01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:15,880
Speaker 6: mean not that I was in love with him or anything,

2378
01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:18,479
Speaker 6: but I liked him. And yeah, the boys I liked

2379
01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:20,640
Speaker 6: him too. No, I didn't think which is fine. No,

2380
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 6: I like that a lot of separation.

2381
01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:24,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just well that's that's what I kind of

2382
01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:26,200
Speaker 7: felt like two of them. More I watched him, he

2383
01:46:26,320 --> 01:46:27,560
Speaker 7: just he felt like he kind of got to the

2384
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 7: top of the route and he kind of gets stuck

2385
01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:31,639
Speaker 7: and you know, couldn't really break. But now I think

2386
01:46:31,640 --> 01:46:33,439
Speaker 7: he's a good player. I mean I I would have

2387
01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:34,439
Speaker 7: I would have been happy with him.

2388
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:38,640
Speaker 8: He's a he's a he's a physical, uh you know,

2389
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:43,360
Speaker 8: competitive guy, Rashi Rice, Like he's when that ball is

2390
01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:45,479
Speaker 8: in the air, Hi Rice is coming down with the

2391
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:46,560
Speaker 8: football a lot, you know.

2392
01:46:46,760 --> 01:46:46,800
Speaker 9: He.

2393
01:46:47,200 --> 01:46:49,400
Speaker 8: I think a lot of people that really really liked

2394
01:46:49,479 --> 01:46:52,639
Speaker 8: him saw some DeAndre Hopkins in his game where even

2395
01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:55,000
Speaker 8: when it doesn't look like he's open, he's open because

2396
01:46:55,040 --> 01:46:57,679
Speaker 8: he just out muscles the other guy for the football.

2397
01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:00,680
Speaker 8: I just didn't really want that skill set for Patriots, Like,

2398
01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:02,600
Speaker 8: we don't need a guy I would agree with that,

2399
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:05,479
Speaker 8: you know, And I don't like that that's just gonna

2400
01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:07,720
Speaker 8: not gonna get open and not going to be explosive.

2401
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:08,960
Speaker 6: He's just gonna out muscle guys.

2402
01:47:08,960 --> 01:47:11,080
Speaker 2: We had another running back taken by the.

2403
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:15,400
Speaker 6: Freddy check out This goal by so Pasta scored a goal.

2404
01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:15,880
Speaker 1: What I.

2405
01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:21,479
Speaker 6: Was told Pasta couldn't score goals. That's the goal. Score

2406
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:24,320
Speaker 6: a goal. Your shows, Yeah, that's ridiculous. No one ever

2407
01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:26,160
Speaker 6: says he can't. A guy with sixty goals can't score

2408
01:47:26,160 --> 01:47:29,800
Speaker 6: a goal? Where where is he? Where where is he been?

2409
01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:31,960
Speaker 6: He's had a terrible series. Here are they supposed to

2410
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:32,679
Speaker 6: pretend he's played?

2411
01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:32,880
Speaker 14: Well?

2412
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:38,080
Speaker 6: My god, now you're just making crap up. That's sixty goals.

2413
01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:40,720
Speaker 6: Someone said he can't score. Yes, your show said that,

2414
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:44,400
Speaker 6: you guys where hate him so much you can't even listen.

2415
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:48,519
Speaker 6: It's unreal. You're very defensive, right, because that's because that's

2416
01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:50,840
Speaker 6: asked night when someone makes fun of somebody for turning

2417
01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:52,479
Speaker 6: the puck over too much, and you say that he

2418
01:47:52,560 --> 01:47:55,040
Speaker 6: can't turn the puck over too much because he's trying

2419
01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:59,000
Speaker 6: to score and he's gonna you guys the time living

2420
01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:00,840
Speaker 6: it over, so make fun of for that. Now we're

2421
01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:02,960
Speaker 6: in front of them for saying. Now, I'm just fun

2422
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:04,640
Speaker 6: of them saying he can't score goals when he had

2423
01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:06,760
Speaker 6: sixty guys. I think this is really about Keon White

2424
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:07,080
Speaker 6: right now.

2425
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:10,960
Speaker 8: It's much better than I'm giving ke On White a

2426
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:14,960
Speaker 8: third time through. I watched him yesterday morning because I

2427
01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:18,920
Speaker 8: had this last second inkling of like it's kind of

2428
01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:21,400
Speaker 8: their type of guy, right, So I went I watched

2429
01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:24,799
Speaker 8: him initially, I watched him again yesterday, and I'm watching

2430
01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:27,200
Speaker 8: him again now. So I'm gonna try to sell myself

2431
01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:29,080
Speaker 8: by tomorrow. Talk to me tomorrow tomorrow.

2432
01:48:29,160 --> 01:48:30,920
Speaker 7: I'll think that it's like I'm just gonna put my

2433
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:33,000
Speaker 7: positive Homer hat on for a second and just say

2434
01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:35,320
Speaker 7: what I'm hoping for, Like I'm I'm hoping that this

2435
01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:38,160
Speaker 7: guy does bring an element of a kind of a

2436
01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:41,599
Speaker 7: unique element of power and athleticism to the I don't.

2437
01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:42,800
Speaker 6: Know if he's going to have the speed it's what

2438
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:44,840
Speaker 6: he has. But Mike, you just sold me you know

2439
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:46,599
Speaker 6: that that's what I like that. You want to talk

2440
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:50,519
Speaker 6: about unique combos of power, and I mean, I'm here

2441
01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:52,080
Speaker 6: for that. Let's I'm here for that.

2442
01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:56,080
Speaker 2: Let's be honest, all right. Dietrich Wise started out on

2443
01:48:56,320 --> 01:48:59,840
Speaker 2: fire last year and he faded down the stretch, he disappeared.

2444
01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:02,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought he had a pretty good year. I've

2445
01:49:02,040 --> 01:49:02,559
Speaker 6: been I've been.

2446
01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:05,120
Speaker 7: I've been fine trying to upgrade him for a while now.

2447
01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:06,680
Speaker 7: But I mean, I would just say I fell in

2448
01:49:06,720 --> 01:49:09,000
Speaker 7: love with Trayvon Walker last year. I don't think he's

2449
01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:10,920
Speaker 7: going to be Trayvon Walker, but I don't I see

2450
01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:13,280
Speaker 7: similarities to like, you know what we've been talking about.

2451
01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:15,160
Speaker 6: Is he going to be a speed rusher off the edge?

2452
01:49:15,160 --> 01:49:17,880
Speaker 7: Probably not, But I just look, they've been kind of

2453
01:49:17,960 --> 01:49:19,760
Speaker 7: running it back with this front seven for the last

2454
01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:21,840
Speaker 7: few years and it hasn't been good enough. So if

2455
01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:23,360
Speaker 7: you're telling me that maybe they're going to take a

2456
01:49:23,439 --> 01:49:25,800
Speaker 7: chance at a potential guy that could upgrade things along

2457
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:27,719
Speaker 7: the line of scrimmage and maybe give them a different

2458
01:49:27,800 --> 01:49:31,840
Speaker 7: dynamic than what we've been looking at with guy Godshaw.

2459
01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:34,080
Speaker 6: Like maybe they want to get maybe they want to

2460
01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:36,400
Speaker 6: get away from those three hundred and fifteen pound guys

2461
01:49:36,479 --> 01:49:38,479
Speaker 6: up front and get a little bit more athletic. Yes,

2462
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:39,639
Speaker 6: he definitely has.

2463
01:49:40,360 --> 01:49:42,200
Speaker 8: I think that the two things that I can give

2464
01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:45,200
Speaker 8: to him or that he has significant play strength, Like

2465
01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:47,679
Speaker 8: this is somebody that you can see a noticeable shock

2466
01:49:47,760 --> 01:49:50,240
Speaker 8: when he puts hands into people, that he can really

2467
01:49:50,360 --> 01:49:52,920
Speaker 8: press a block and get off a block in that vein.

2468
01:49:53,320 --> 01:49:55,160
Speaker 6: And I do think he has a little.

2469
01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:58,360
Speaker 8: Bit more of that like bowling ball, you know, game

2470
01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:00,880
Speaker 8: wrecking ability than a guy like a Orange Sky does.

2471
01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:03,320
Speaker 8: It's just really there to just hold the fourth, so

2472
01:50:03,400 --> 01:50:05,880
Speaker 8: there's a little bit more playmaking there than some of

2473
01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:09,160
Speaker 8: those other guys. I just I just really wanted to

2474
01:50:09,240 --> 01:50:11,000
Speaker 8: go offense with this pick. I think that that's what

2475
01:50:11,160 --> 01:50:13,439
Speaker 8: I'm kind of coming to terms with. Is where my

2476
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:16,519
Speaker 8: initial frustration was was that I just really wanted to

2477
01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:18,559
Speaker 8: go offense. And now the Bruins will make me feel better,

2478
01:50:18,640 --> 01:50:19,080
Speaker 8: So it's fine.

2479
01:50:19,120 --> 01:50:19,439
Speaker 2: Bruins.

2480
01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:21,960
Speaker 6: There's suddenly dominated. But it's just like the other night

2481
01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:22,439
Speaker 6: all we saw.

2482
01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:26,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've flipped the switch. Let's see brad AND's new Brunswick.

2483
01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:28,920
Speaker 6: I'm wondering, and Carlos score goal.

2484
01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:32,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm wondering why they haven't traded up by using

2485
01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:34,439
Speaker 2: their fourth and sixth rounders. Like Fred said last night,

2486
01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:36,439
Speaker 2: you have to have a partner. Do you think there

2487
01:50:36,520 --> 01:50:40,080
Speaker 2: is some sort of anti Patriots bias or Patriots fatigue

2488
01:50:40,479 --> 01:50:43,240
Speaker 2: or even Patriots hangover. Yes, even though we are five

2489
01:50:43,320 --> 01:50:44,920
Speaker 2: years removed from our last Super Bowl.

2490
01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:47,000
Speaker 6: That's why there was seventeen other trades in the round.

2491
01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:49,320
Speaker 2: All the other teams are just saying, no, we're not

2492
01:50:49,439 --> 01:50:51,000
Speaker 2: going to help the Patriots get better.

2493
01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:54,880
Speaker 6: Correct. Yeah, I think that might be Carlo's goal. I

2494
01:50:54,880 --> 01:50:55,599
Speaker 6: don't think that got.

2495
01:50:55,560 --> 01:51:01,400
Speaker 2: Tipped Mike, and Raleigh says taking off the ledge. I

2496
01:51:01,439 --> 01:51:03,920
Speaker 2: would rather have an offensive player there as well. But

2497
01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:06,519
Speaker 2: at least they're taking players in the round they're supposed

2498
01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:10,560
Speaker 2: to go in and like Jordan Richards, Tevan Strange.

2499
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:12,759
Speaker 8: Okay, I go on, who's this emailer? Good, good email?

2500
01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:16,840
Speaker 8: I told you to buy tomorrow. I and I also

2501
01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:18,800
Speaker 8: want to take a little bit because I haven't really

2502
01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:19,960
Speaker 8: heard Evan on the ledge.

2503
01:51:20,160 --> 01:51:22,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not like I think.

2504
01:51:23,120 --> 01:51:25,519
Speaker 2: It's just it was such a polar opposite from last night.

2505
01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:26,479
Speaker 2: People are he's.

2506
01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:28,960
Speaker 7: Being consistent, he has integrity for what he watched and

2507
01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:30,479
Speaker 7: select the guy he doesn't like.

2508
01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:32,280
Speaker 2: He said, I think we all know this team isn't

2509
01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:34,080
Speaker 2: going to win anything next year. I just hope they

2510
01:51:34,160 --> 01:51:37,000
Speaker 2: come out of this draft with good foundational pieces to

2511
01:51:37,080 --> 01:51:38,880
Speaker 2: the roster that will be here for years to come.

2512
01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:42,240
Speaker 2: Let's all give Keon White a chance and show that

2513
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:44,000
Speaker 2: he can be a good player come this summer.

2514
01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:48,559
Speaker 8: I just want to say, just give the kid a shot,

2515
01:51:48,760 --> 01:51:51,240
Speaker 8: to give ke White a chancing, like we're all giving

2516
01:51:51,320 --> 01:51:51,920
Speaker 8: him a chance.

2517
01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:57,240
Speaker 28: Like obviously we're all giving him a chancet. What don't

2518
01:51:57,280 --> 01:51:59,400
Speaker 28: worry How about those that want to give mac Jones

2519
01:51:59,400 --> 01:52:02,080
Speaker 28: a chance? No, maybe by getting in some players.

2520
01:52:02,360 --> 01:52:06,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely not, Clint says, don't worry, Evan, I get you.

2521
01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:10,120
Speaker 2: It's late, we're probably trading back anyway. Let's talk again tomorrow.

2522
01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:10,960
Speaker 6: You're right.

2523
01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:13,960
Speaker 8: By the time we get on the air tomorrow, I

2524
01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:16,400
Speaker 8: will have grinded some more ke On White tape for

2525
01:52:16,479 --> 01:52:19,439
Speaker 8: now the third time trying to I found there and

2526
01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:21,920
Speaker 8: by tomorrow, I will tell you all you know what

2527
01:52:22,200 --> 01:52:24,920
Speaker 8: I was wrong. My reaction was incorrect, and now the

2528
01:52:25,000 --> 01:52:27,759
Speaker 8: Patriots have two game wreckers on defense in the draft.

2529
01:52:29,840 --> 01:52:35,680
Speaker 2: Me too. Lock In Adelaide says, I just wanted to

2530
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:37,920
Speaker 2: chime in and say that evans response to key On

2531
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:41,639
Speaker 2: White is reminiscent of Paul's reaction to Richard Seymour. He's

2532
01:52:41,680 --> 01:52:44,960
Speaker 2: not quite resigning. I think that he reminds me a

2533
01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:47,559
Speaker 2: bit of Sebastian Volmer pick a diamond in the rough,

2534
01:52:47,640 --> 01:52:49,240
Speaker 2: possibly with somebody else I was.

2535
01:52:49,439 --> 01:52:51,320
Speaker 6: I was way more negative.

2536
01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:54,880
Speaker 8: Bastian Volmer didn't go to the combine. He was the

2537
01:52:54,960 --> 01:52:58,120
Speaker 8: highest draft pick ever to not go to the combine.

2538
01:52:58,200 --> 01:53:00,960
Speaker 8: Ke On White is at least an other emailer is right.

2539
01:53:01,120 --> 01:53:02,840
Speaker 8: The way to talk me off the ledge right now

2540
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:04,920
Speaker 8: is that Kean White was at least supposed to be

2541
01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:07,120
Speaker 8: drafted here. They drafted a guy that was supposed to

2542
01:53:07,120 --> 01:53:10,519
Speaker 8: be drafted there, and they didn't draft Sebastian Volmer. Sabastian

2543
01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:12,920
Speaker 8: Volmer was a was a out of nowhere type of

2544
01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:13,599
Speaker 8: pick at the time.

2545
01:53:14,680 --> 01:53:17,840
Speaker 2: Let's see PAULI writes in in Ohio, how have we

2546
01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:20,360
Speaker 2: not made a trade? There are so many reasons to

2547
01:53:20,439 --> 01:53:22,280
Speaker 2: have moved up and gotten a guy, and they have

2548
01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:25,080
Speaker 2: the ability to move anywhere they want. I'm very confused.

2549
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:29,040
Speaker 2: I want Darnell Washington, Josh Downs, Byron Young, don't want

2550
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:33,600
Speaker 2: they want Jones, Zach Harris, Kenny mcintize, Zak Koontz. So

2551
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:37,280
Speaker 2: he names more. Also, the Patriots could have drafted defensive

2552
01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:39,760
Speaker 2: end Mike Morris in the five or sixth round and

2553
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:43,000
Speaker 2: gotten a better player than White. Unbelievable pick. Why they

2554
01:53:43,040 --> 01:53:46,560
Speaker 2: didn't trade up for someone like Mingo or Laporta and

2555
01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:47,400
Speaker 2: made it differ.

2556
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:50,280
Speaker 6: Now better players are available in the sixth round, like like,

2557
01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:53,000
Speaker 6: go on, I'm going to become the biggest key On

2558
01:53:53,120 --> 01:53:54,920
Speaker 6: White fan in the world with the way that some

2559
01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:56,519
Speaker 6: of these people are reacting to this pick.

2560
01:53:57,280 --> 01:54:01,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's my fault on you guys came out too

2561
01:54:01,520 --> 01:54:02,160
Speaker 8: hot against the.

2562
01:54:02,360 --> 01:54:05,160
Speaker 2: Bread and Lemister says, we're tipping the bruin scores. I

2563
01:54:05,200 --> 01:54:06,840
Speaker 2: guess we're seeing it before he is.

2564
01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:10,120
Speaker 6: I don't know what just happening. This school get overturned,

2565
01:54:11,400 --> 01:54:14,680
Speaker 6: and I'm not sure, but I think I, Matt, do

2566
01:54:14,760 --> 01:54:17,040
Speaker 6: you know what's going on in there in the crease?

2567
01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:19,920
Speaker 6: The busk in the crease? Okay, because I thought that

2568
01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:22,080
Speaker 6: may have been a hand pass. Very early in the

2569
01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:24,760
Speaker 6: whole sequence. Everyone was looking at the what a terrible rule?

2570
01:54:25,360 --> 01:54:27,080
Speaker 6: Are sorry? What hand pass?

2571
01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:27,880
Speaker 9: No?

2572
01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:31,320
Speaker 6: Just like Luke scoon Maker guy went to down and

2573
01:54:31,720 --> 01:54:34,680
Speaker 6: after they gained the zone an hour later, while this

2574
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:38,160
Speaker 6: was a good law, Yeah, now we're gonna call it fairness.

2575
01:54:38,200 --> 01:54:39,640
Speaker 6: I don't have the volume up. I don't know that.

2576
01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:42,280
Speaker 6: That's why everybody on Twitter is just saying that's garbage.

2577
01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:45,760
Speaker 6: Drew Pearson announcing the Cowboys pick. That could be like

2578
01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:48,840
Speaker 6: the end of the show. Who's the the Schoonmaker?

2579
01:54:49,000 --> 01:54:53,280
Speaker 8: Scoon Maker? Ye can't have schoon that's too nice.

2580
01:54:53,800 --> 01:54:55,160
Speaker 6: The goal is off the board. But I don't know

2581
01:54:55,360 --> 01:54:57,560
Speaker 6: that's too that's too nice of an offensive piece.

2582
01:54:57,960 --> 01:55:02,560
Speaker 2: Back to to two to Okay, So Dallas takes Luke

2583
01:55:02,600 --> 01:55:07,000
Speaker 2: Schoonmaker from Michigan. Second Michigan guy they took, I think. Yeah.

2584
01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:12,160
Speaker 2: So the Bills, the Buffalo Bills are on the board

2585
01:55:12,240 --> 01:55:16,280
Speaker 2: at the twenty eighth pick, fifty ninth overall. Uh so

2586
01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:18,360
Speaker 2: we're getting to the end, close to the end of

2587
01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:23,880
Speaker 2: the second round. Let's go to the Phones's see it's

2588
01:55:23,960 --> 01:55:26,800
Speaker 2: Christian in La who's very disappointed and sad.

2589
01:55:26,920 --> 01:55:28,360
Speaker 6: What's up, Christian Evan.

2590
01:55:29,280 --> 01:55:32,400
Speaker 16: Well, I just don't know what we're doing. I mean,

2591
01:55:32,440 --> 01:55:35,960
Speaker 16: it seems like what we decided, and hey, I love

2592
01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:39,000
Speaker 16: Christian Gonzalogi is the great player, the impact player, and

2593
01:55:39,120 --> 01:55:41,480
Speaker 16: this kid key On White, he may be an impact player.

2594
01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:45,280
Speaker 16: But here's the essential question that I'm asking is how

2595
01:55:45,400 --> 01:55:49,520
Speaker 16: many wins do these guys translate to? I don't think

2596
01:55:49,560 --> 01:55:50,440
Speaker 16: more than one or two.

2597
01:55:52,200 --> 01:55:54,160
Speaker 6: We said is not quarterbacks.

2598
01:55:55,840 --> 01:55:57,560
Speaker 2: It seems like what we said is okay, now that's

2599
01:55:57,640 --> 01:55:59,920
Speaker 2: ten wins this seeon, Yeah, that's getting better.

2600
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:05,880
Speaker 6: But how is how is a draft pick responsible for? Like, yeah, wins? Well,

2601
01:56:06,040 --> 01:56:07,840
Speaker 6: if you have a good draft, that helps you get better.

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01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2603
01:56:08,200 --> 01:56:10,360
Speaker 6: But like I mean, that's I think what you're saying,

2604
01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:11,640
Speaker 6: we're going to get a guy in the third round

2605
01:56:11,680 --> 01:56:12,720
Speaker 6: that's going to be responsible for.

2606
01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:15,839
Speaker 2: What you say, Christian is you're looking for impact players.

2607
01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:18,920
Speaker 2: High impact players, right, You're not going to get them

2608
01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:20,880
Speaker 2: unless you were in the top ten of the first round.

2609
01:56:21,880 --> 01:56:23,040
Speaker 2: You know, Gonzales could be.

2610
01:56:23,800 --> 01:56:24,520
Speaker 27: If I don't know what.

2611
01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:28,040
Speaker 16: Christian goes out to a great player, but I really

2612
01:56:28,080 --> 01:56:31,960
Speaker 16: think we needed to look at some offensive firepower.

2613
01:56:31,640 --> 01:56:32,480
Speaker 27: Or help for Mac.

2614
01:56:32,760 --> 01:56:35,280
Speaker 16: It seems like Bill is saying we're going to try

2615
01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:38,840
Speaker 16: the whole team below twenty one point because our team

2616
01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:42,240
Speaker 16: as is can maybe generate seventeen to twenty one points.

2617
01:56:42,640 --> 01:56:46,280
Speaker 16: So it doesn't seem like a good philosophy. Maybe I'm

2618
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:47,080
Speaker 16: just missing something.

2619
01:56:47,840 --> 01:56:50,480
Speaker 2: No, I mean, listen, everyone, A lot of people I

2620
01:56:50,480 --> 01:56:53,360
Speaker 2: shouldn't say everyone, thanks, thanks for the call, Christian. A

2621
01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:56,000
Speaker 2: lot of people think the Patriots need to upgrade their offense.

2622
01:56:56,040 --> 01:56:58,680
Speaker 2: There's no doubt, there's no doubt. That's why they brought

2623
01:56:58,720 --> 01:57:00,560
Speaker 2: in Bill O'Brien Gonzales.

2624
01:57:00,720 --> 01:57:03,960
Speaker 8: Why it's not part of this though the Christian Gonzales

2625
01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:05,520
Speaker 8: pick was the right pick, and it was a good

2626
01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:08,560
Speaker 8: pick yesterday. The problem is is that now they need

2627
01:57:08,680 --> 01:57:11,120
Speaker 8: to address some offensive holes, like now you need some

2628
01:57:11,360 --> 01:57:14,080
Speaker 8: help in the pass catching department, and you need to tackle,

2629
01:57:14,520 --> 01:57:17,280
Speaker 8: and whether the board fell your way or not, if

2630
01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:20,000
Speaker 8: now in the third round, go get yourself a receiver,

2631
01:57:20,120 --> 01:57:22,040
Speaker 8: and go get and trade up in from the fourth

2632
01:57:22,160 --> 01:57:22,920
Speaker 8: round and get attacked.

2633
01:57:22,960 --> 01:57:25,920
Speaker 2: But see, I don't, come on, I don't. I don't

2634
01:57:26,040 --> 01:57:29,360
Speaker 2: like that philosophy. If it's if you're just saying I'm

2635
01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:32,960
Speaker 2: drafting for needs because you gotta like the player. You

2636
01:57:33,080 --> 01:57:34,720
Speaker 2: can't just draft. But their positions.

2637
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:37,040
Speaker 8: So they've they've done that, right, which is fine. But

2638
01:57:37,600 --> 01:57:39,280
Speaker 8: at some point the board has to fall in a

2639
01:57:39,320 --> 01:57:42,160
Speaker 8: direction that you can take an offensive player. At some point,

2640
01:57:42,240 --> 01:57:44,560
Speaker 8: the board has to be in a position where you're saying,

2641
01:57:45,040 --> 01:57:47,880
Speaker 8: we have a highly graded offensive player that we like here.

2642
01:57:48,320 --> 01:57:53,840
Speaker 2: So you can't just that's higher, that's higher than you know, got.

2643
01:57:53,840 --> 01:57:57,840
Speaker 8: Comparable or comparable comparable in the same tier, right, So

2644
01:57:57,960 --> 01:57:59,320
Speaker 8: at some point that has to happen.

2645
01:57:59,440 --> 01:58:00,960
Speaker 6: That's all so real quick.

2646
01:58:01,000 --> 01:58:03,600
Speaker 2: Maybe it hasn't had Maybe it didn't happen in that pick.

2647
01:58:03,800 --> 01:58:08,720
Speaker 6: Maybe so Keon White is talking to our local media here,

2648
01:58:09,360 --> 01:58:12,120
Speaker 6: so someone obviously felt the same way that you guys

2649
01:58:12,200 --> 01:58:15,480
Speaker 6: did when you saw the the TV reaction. He says,

2650
01:58:15,520 --> 01:58:17,760
Speaker 6: I don't know if you've all seen on TV, but

2651
01:58:17,800 --> 01:58:20,240
Speaker 6: I'm a chill person. I'm taking it all in. I'm

2652
01:58:20,280 --> 01:58:24,520
Speaker 6: handling it myself. So he didn't necessarily back away from

2653
01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:27,360
Speaker 6: it completely. And that's a couple and he says, I

2654
01:58:27,400 --> 01:58:29,720
Speaker 6: haven't even talked to my family, to be honest, I'm

2655
01:58:29,800 --> 01:58:34,240
Speaker 6: just kind of taking it all in. Oh boy, Florida

2656
01:58:34,320 --> 01:58:37,400
Speaker 6: just screwed. What a what a screw job on that hand, pass,

2657
01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:41,680
Speaker 6: I mean, that's bad. I mean, like, like Evin said,

2658
01:58:41,720 --> 01:58:44,120
Speaker 6: it was like a good forty five seconds after the play.

2659
01:58:44,000 --> 01:58:46,320
Speaker 8: And it was barely like he grazed his finger and

2660
01:58:46,400 --> 01:58:49,879
Speaker 8: they called it a hand path anyways, Draft Show Patriots.

2661
01:58:50,280 --> 01:58:53,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so what is so? What else did Keon

2662
01:58:53,960 --> 01:58:54,400
Speaker 2: White say?

2663
01:58:55,520 --> 01:58:57,400
Speaker 6: You know, just a lot that was the stuff about,

2664
01:58:57,560 --> 01:59:01,920
Speaker 6: you know, the TV reaction. I think so, But he

2665
01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:04,440
Speaker 6: didn't necessarily say no, no, I'm excited. He was like,

2666
01:59:05,280 --> 01:59:07,360
Speaker 6: I'm I'm a chill guy, you know chill.

2667
01:59:07,600 --> 01:59:09,360
Speaker 7: I mean, I was gonna say he's one of my

2668
01:59:09,880 --> 01:59:11,280
Speaker 7: I think you hate this though, Paul my one of

2669
01:59:11,320 --> 01:59:13,240
Speaker 7: my serious football guys. Like he's just one of those

2670
01:59:13,320 --> 01:59:15,640
Speaker 7: dudes that don't look like he plays around like it's Dante.

2671
01:59:16,120 --> 01:59:16,800
Speaker 6: That's how he plays.

2672
01:59:16,840 --> 01:59:18,680
Speaker 7: But that's how he plays. That's fine, that's not He

2673
01:59:19,040 --> 01:59:20,880
Speaker 7: looked mad. No, No, he did look mad, but I

2674
01:59:20,920 --> 01:59:23,880
Speaker 7: mean it's nothing to be mad. Lived mad a lot

2675
01:59:23,920 --> 01:59:24,280
Speaker 7: of the time.

2676
01:59:24,360 --> 01:59:24,520
Speaker 10: Now.

2677
01:59:24,600 --> 01:59:27,640
Speaker 6: I guess he has a lot of business interests outside

2678
01:59:27,680 --> 01:59:30,800
Speaker 6: of football. Yeah, there's there's some stuff out there about

2679
01:59:30,800 --> 01:59:34,160
Speaker 6: this in real estate specifically. You know, you read this

2680
01:59:34,320 --> 01:59:36,680
Speaker 6: quote like independently without knowing that, and it's kind of odd.

2681
01:59:36,720 --> 01:59:39,040
Speaker 6: He says, I have to quote have to assess the

2682
01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:41,520
Speaker 6: numbers where I stand contract wise and go from there.

2683
01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:44,320
Speaker 6: But definitely the goal is to be financially free. The

2684
01:59:44,440 --> 01:59:46,720
Speaker 6: more financially free I am, the better play better I

2685
01:59:46,760 --> 01:59:49,840
Speaker 6: can play football. I don't like that, what I have

2686
01:59:50,000 --> 01:59:53,600
Speaker 6: to admit, I thought that was a weird and when

2687
01:59:53,600 --> 01:59:55,880
Speaker 6: I just saw the quote of it, you're gor that, come.

2688
01:59:55,840 --> 01:59:59,400
Speaker 2: Up, you drafted forty six overall, what was it, forty seven?

2689
02:00:00,160 --> 02:00:04,000
Speaker 2: You're going to get what they get, Like, there's not

2690
02:00:04,040 --> 02:00:05,640
Speaker 2: a lot of negotiation.

2691
02:00:05,200 --> 02:00:10,320
Speaker 6: There, not very explosive in excitement in any form. No,

2692
02:00:10,520 --> 02:00:11,560
Speaker 6: he's an interesting dude.

2693
02:00:11,680 --> 02:00:12,520
Speaker 7: I kind of like him.

2694
02:00:13,680 --> 02:00:16,600
Speaker 8: I mean none, none of this has any impact on my.

2695
02:00:17,640 --> 02:00:20,000
Speaker 2: I've never I've never heard a second round pick talk

2696
02:00:20,040 --> 02:00:20,360
Speaker 2: about his.

2697
02:00:20,440 --> 02:00:25,560
Speaker 6: Contract, about the business stuff of Yeah.

2698
02:00:26,240 --> 02:00:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just not crazy about that.

2699
02:00:29,160 --> 02:00:31,320
Speaker 8: I come back to the position. I think that's ultimately

2700
02:00:31,360 --> 02:00:33,480
Speaker 8: what it is. It's it's just if you were going

2701
02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:35,600
Speaker 8: to draft another defensive player, then it needed to be

2702
02:00:35,720 --> 02:00:37,720
Speaker 8: someone that was really going to move the needle in

2703
02:00:37,840 --> 02:00:40,040
Speaker 8: some direction, right, A pass rusher that's going to get

2704
02:00:40,080 --> 02:00:43,760
Speaker 8: after the quarterback. A defensive back like Brian Branches who's

2705
02:00:43,800 --> 02:00:47,120
Speaker 8: going to play on the back end and help replace mccordy. Instead,

2706
02:00:47,160 --> 02:00:49,520
Speaker 8: they took a three four end. I mean it's hard

2707
02:00:49,600 --> 02:00:51,240
Speaker 8: not to be a little bit underwhelmed by that.

2708
02:00:51,520 --> 02:00:52,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree.

2709
02:00:53,240 --> 02:00:58,600
Speaker 2: Uh, let's see, the Bills took a guard, Osirius Torrence.

2710
02:00:58,400 --> 02:00:59,280
Speaker 6: One of the better guards.

2711
02:00:59,400 --> 02:01:02,600
Speaker 7: I'm so he lasted this long. I mean, at least

2712
02:01:02,600 --> 02:01:04,000
Speaker 7: as far as the Senior Bowl was going. A lot

2713
02:01:04,240 --> 02:01:05,880
Speaker 7: those guys were like, this is the first round guard.

2714
02:01:06,040 --> 02:01:08,120
Speaker 7: So in this aggregate he was twenty fifth. That was

2715
02:01:08,120 --> 02:01:09,800
Speaker 7: the highest player by far.

2716
02:01:09,960 --> 02:01:10,520
Speaker 6: That was totally.

2717
02:01:10,560 --> 02:01:10,680
Speaker 14: Man.

2718
02:01:10,800 --> 02:01:12,280
Speaker 7: The thing that stood out to me when they were

2719
02:01:12,320 --> 02:01:14,640
Speaker 7: talking about that though, was, you know, just comparing him

2720
02:01:14,720 --> 02:01:16,760
Speaker 7: to what we saw out of Cold Strange, and it's just,

2721
02:01:16,840 --> 02:01:18,640
Speaker 7: you know, they look like a better player to me

2722
02:01:18,760 --> 02:01:20,840
Speaker 7: than Cole Strange did, just as far as you know

2723
02:01:20,920 --> 02:01:22,360
Speaker 7: what a first round guard should look.

2724
02:01:22,200 --> 02:01:24,000
Speaker 6: Like, I should say, with the exception of Hendon Hooker,

2725
02:01:24,040 --> 02:01:27,120
Speaker 6: who's thirty on this list, but quarterbacked a little bit different,

2726
02:01:27,240 --> 02:01:27,840
Speaker 6: Yeah Hooker.

2727
02:01:28,800 --> 02:01:31,840
Speaker 2: Let's see, we'll go to the ace ticket hutline eight

2728
02:01:31,880 --> 02:01:34,800
Speaker 2: five to five pats five hundred Kurts in Canada. What's up, Kurt?

2729
02:01:36,720 --> 02:01:41,160
Speaker 1: Hello? Hello, Yes, longtime listener, first time caller.

2730
02:01:41,480 --> 02:01:41,760
Speaker 2: Thank you.

2731
02:01:43,360 --> 02:01:49,400
Speaker 1: You guys do a great great show. But to Evan, Evan,

2732
02:01:49,880 --> 02:01:53,400
Speaker 1: you know more about the draft than most people. Don't

2733
02:01:53,520 --> 02:01:57,520
Speaker 1: back up. You're entirely right. They should have picked offense

2734
02:01:58,000 --> 02:01:59,920
Speaker 1: and the second pick was not a good pick.

2735
02:02:00,080 --> 02:02:03,320
Speaker 2: Okay, name to the claim, You're right, my friend, who

2736
02:02:03,400 --> 02:02:04,760
Speaker 2: on offense should they have picked?

2737
02:02:05,880 --> 02:02:07,840
Speaker 1: Well, I think they should have either that they should

2738
02:02:07,880 --> 02:02:11,200
Speaker 1: have tried to get the receiver because I think they

2739
02:02:11,240 --> 02:02:14,320
Speaker 1: can get an offensive tackle later around.

2740
02:02:14,720 --> 02:02:17,520
Speaker 2: You have it in any particular name or just.

2741
02:02:17,800 --> 02:02:19,160
Speaker 1: Just the little guy.

2742
02:02:20,400 --> 02:02:26,080
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, yeah, I like and he's available. Yep, Okay,

2743
02:02:26,200 --> 02:02:29,640
Speaker 2: you hold your ground, all right? Thanks.

2744
02:02:29,760 --> 02:02:33,800
Speaker 8: Kurt Downs is down here. That's why doesn't like down down.

2745
02:02:34,040 --> 02:02:34,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2746
02:02:34,640 --> 02:02:36,440
Speaker 7: I just think though, I mean, I you know, you

2747
02:02:36,560 --> 02:02:39,720
Speaker 7: look around, like what was selected around them. I mean

2748
02:02:39,800 --> 02:02:42,160
Speaker 7: it's you know, there's a lot of defensive players going

2749
02:02:42,520 --> 02:02:44,440
Speaker 7: in this range. You weren't gonna unless you were gonna

2750
02:02:44,440 --> 02:02:48,160
Speaker 7: get up to get Mingo or Matthew Bergeron, probably not

2751
02:02:48,240 --> 02:02:50,240
Speaker 7: going up for Avila or Michael Meyer. But I mean

2752
02:02:50,280 --> 02:02:53,760
Speaker 7: then it's you know, edge edge, and that's where cornerback

2753
02:02:53,840 --> 02:02:54,600
Speaker 7: cornerback edge.

2754
02:02:54,640 --> 02:02:56,600
Speaker 6: You know, if that's where the second guess is for me?

2755
02:02:56,800 --> 02:02:56,920
Speaker 2: Right?

2756
02:02:57,080 --> 02:03:00,440
Speaker 8: Is Bergeron goes thirty eight? And John of the Mingo

2757
02:03:00,520 --> 02:03:03,520
Speaker 8: goes thirty nine. That's right in that, you know, trade

2758
02:03:03,600 --> 02:03:06,360
Speaker 8: up for two fourths in your in your second makes

2759
02:03:06,480 --> 02:03:08,520
Speaker 8: gets you up that eight spots to go get a

2760
02:03:08,560 --> 02:03:11,440
Speaker 8: guy like that that that to me would have would

2761
02:03:11,480 --> 02:03:14,800
Speaker 8: have been exciting. That was especially Jonathan Mingo U the

2762
02:03:14,880 --> 02:03:17,800
Speaker 8: receiver from Ole Miss This is uh, this is a

2763
02:03:17,840 --> 02:03:19,720
Speaker 8: bill pick. Whoever said that earlier was right?

2764
02:03:20,000 --> 02:03:22,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, time to take a break. We'll be

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02:03:22,760 --> 02:03:25,720
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Speaker 2: All Right, we're back here Patriot's Unfiltered check.

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Speaker 6: All right, another tight end, went Bret Brenton strange, so

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Speaker 6: kind of a little bit surprised he went this highway.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Darnel Washington definitely has some sort of medical red flag.

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Speaker 6: That's well. After the combine, everybody was like first rounder.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's not making out of the first round

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Speaker 6: and uh and we got another penalty on the Bruins.

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Speaker 6: Oh believe Sorry, I'm gonna stop updating this because it's

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Speaker 6: just making me miserable.

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Speaker 2: H Yeah.

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Speaker 6: DJ Turner two went to the Bengals, so I know,

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Speaker 6: I know, have you liked him?

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Speaker 7: I have to admit I'm getting a little bit a

2873
02:09:07,200 --> 02:09:10,160
Speaker 7: little bit disappointed here about the tight end situation. Just

2874
02:09:10,960 --> 02:09:12,760
Speaker 7: of all the things that I felt like they had

2875
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Speaker 7: to come away with, was you know, one of these

2876
02:09:14,240 --> 02:09:14,840
Speaker 7: guys and there are.

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Speaker 6: Still a couple left.

2878
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Speaker 7: But yeah, they're going fast. I mean, it is running

2879
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Speaker 7: out like you wouldn't believe you if you.

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Speaker 8: Just scratched Darnel Washington off. Just assuming that there is

2881
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Speaker 8: some sort of medical red flag or something like that.

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Speaker 6: I kind of am in my mind.

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02:09:26,520 --> 02:09:28,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, Tucker Craft and Zach Koonz are like the two

2884
02:09:28,800 --> 02:09:30,840
Speaker 8: guys that stand out to me that that have some

2885
02:09:30,960 --> 02:09:33,880
Speaker 8: potential and lot too and maybe a lot too if

2886
02:09:33,920 --> 02:09:36,400
Speaker 8: they want to keep the Alabama tie. And Will Mallory

2887
02:09:36,480 --> 02:09:38,720
Speaker 8: ran the fastest forty of the group, so maybe he's

2888
02:09:38,760 --> 02:09:41,440
Speaker 8: somebody that they see some receiving upside with. But I

2889
02:09:41,680 --> 02:09:43,880
Speaker 8: really think Tucker Craft might be their guy. That's the

2890
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Speaker 8: guy that you know, Bill O'Brian liked from you know,

2891
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Speaker 8: trying to get him to Alabama, and he came here

2892
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Speaker 8: for a thirty visit, so that there's some definite smoke

2893
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Speaker 8: around Tucker.

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Speaker 7: I really liked him at the combine too, Like I

2895
02:09:54,720 --> 02:09:57,280
Speaker 7: just you know, sometimes those guys, their personality just you know,

2896
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Speaker 7: he seems like a good fit.

2897
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Speaker 6: But damn, I'm I'd be good with that.

2898
02:10:00,640 --> 02:10:01,920
Speaker 7: But I mean, they still got a ways to go

2899
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Speaker 7: here before they're back up on the clock again.

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to the phones. Patrick's in Boston. What's up, Patrick.

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Speaker 27: Gellan? Thank you for the show. You guys are doing

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02:10:12,880 --> 02:10:13,360
Speaker 27: great job.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 27: Brad, we've been listening since two thousand and six, first

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Speaker 27: time calling in, but love you guys. Fred and Paul,

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Speaker 27: thank you, thank you. We'll save the next column for

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02:10:26,520 --> 02:10:29,960
Speaker 27: how I found the paper in Portland for the off

2908
02:10:30,120 --> 02:10:33,680
Speaker 27: off season, but the two questions I have I guess

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02:10:33,760 --> 02:10:36,600
Speaker 27: would be who are you looking at? Here to move up?

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02:10:37,720 --> 02:10:42,080
Speaker 27: And the second would be and Eric's not here to argue,

2911
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Speaker 27: but another draft to be tipping picks. Would you ever

2912
02:10:48,920 --> 02:10:52,000
Speaker 27: consider it not tipping picks for the thrill of the draft?

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Speaker 2: I would consider it. But the thing is, they take

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02:10:56,200 --> 02:10:59,480
Speaker 2: so long to announce the pick on TV. It's so

2915
02:10:59,640 --> 02:11:03,040
Speaker 2: much It's so long after the team has made the pick.

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02:11:03,200 --> 02:11:06,520
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, I don't know what the point is.

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02:11:06,760 --> 02:11:09,640
Speaker 2: I would love to keep the intrigue and and everybody

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02:11:09,720 --> 02:11:13,240
Speaker 2: find out at the same time, but the way they

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Speaker 2: do it on TV is that it's so much delay

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Speaker 2: between the time the team gets the pick in and

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Speaker 2: when it's announced, it's not feasible.

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Speaker 8: So the browncas just took Marvin Mittons. So another receiver

2923
02:11:25,520 --> 02:11:31,560
Speaker 8: off the board to Denver. Interesting pick for Denver because Jerry,

2924
02:11:32,560 --> 02:11:34,640
Speaker 8: what's going on with Jerry Judy? Now now you're not

2925
02:11:35,160 --> 02:11:36,920
Speaker 8: You're I think you're way too late in the draft

2926
02:11:36,960 --> 02:11:38,800
Speaker 8: of trade for Jerry Judy. I don't think that they're

2927
02:11:38,840 --> 02:11:41,320
Speaker 8: giving up Jerry Judy for a third round pick.

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02:11:41,280 --> 02:11:44,000
Speaker 6: But just as interesting to dip into next year.

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02:11:44,200 --> 02:11:46,600
Speaker 8: It's just interesting that they decided to draft the receiver

2930
02:11:46,800 --> 02:11:51,160
Speaker 8: that that has that somewhat similar skill set from Jerry Judy,

2931
02:11:51,280 --> 02:11:54,720
Speaker 8: not obviously not as good, but kind of comparable player.

2932
02:11:55,480 --> 02:11:58,480
Speaker 7: So we're on to the third round here, Chicago is thanks,

2933
02:11:58,520 --> 02:12:00,680
Speaker 7: Patrick is on the clock, and the Patriots we'll be

2934
02:12:00,720 --> 02:12:02,760
Speaker 7: back up. I guess the thirteenth pick in this in

2935
02:12:02,840 --> 02:12:06,040
Speaker 7: this round, So twelve picks to go now before the.

2936
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Speaker 2: Patriots, and in this round instead of seven minutes between picks,

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02:12:09,960 --> 02:12:10,680
Speaker 2: it's only five.

2938
02:12:10,880 --> 02:12:12,720
Speaker 7: Right, we're gonna we're gonna pick up the pace left, Yeah,

2939
02:12:12,720 --> 02:12:13,880
Speaker 7: it might pick up a little bit.

2940
02:12:14,360 --> 02:12:16,600
Speaker 6: Did that go fast? I can't tell. Two hours twelve minutes?

2941
02:12:16,680 --> 02:12:18,440
Speaker 6: Is that a fast? Third round? Second round?

2942
02:12:18,560 --> 02:12:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a pretty good pace. Yeah, pretty good pace.

2943
02:12:22,840 --> 02:12:23,240
Speaker 6: Neither do I.

2944
02:12:23,800 --> 02:12:26,760
Speaker 2: So Chicago is on the top of the third round.

2945
02:12:27,120 --> 02:12:29,640
Speaker 7: Then a couple back to back picks by the Iggles,

2946
02:12:30,800 --> 02:12:34,120
Speaker 7: who obviously are rebuilding the Georgia defense in the NFL

2947
02:12:34,240 --> 02:12:36,600
Speaker 7: now with some of their earlier picks of the last

2948
02:12:36,640 --> 02:12:37,080
Speaker 7: couple of years.

2949
02:12:37,160 --> 02:12:41,200
Speaker 8: So more context on Darnel Washington. Aaron Wilson is saying

2950
02:12:41,240 --> 02:12:44,280
Speaker 8: it's a knee injury, a knee issue. He's saying, so

2951
02:12:44,400 --> 02:12:46,240
Speaker 8: maybe it's like a chronic got to clean it up.

2952
02:12:46,480 --> 02:12:49,520
Speaker 8: Chronic knee you know Sony Michelle situation where you know,

2953
02:12:49,640 --> 02:12:52,000
Speaker 8: you don't know how long the knees are going to

2954
02:12:52,040 --> 02:12:54,000
Speaker 8: hold up for him in the NFL.

2955
02:12:54,040 --> 02:12:54,600
Speaker 2: That's scary.

2956
02:12:54,760 --> 02:12:59,920
Speaker 35: Remember Jimmy Hitchcock Paul CLS right, No, no, A sales

2957
02:13:00,040 --> 02:13:02,840
Speaker 35: pat took him, but he didn't have he wasn't born

2958
02:13:02,880 --> 02:13:05,560
Speaker 35: with them or but he didn't had any it.

2959
02:13:05,920 --> 02:13:07,400
Speaker 6: Dominique easily with his knees too.

2960
02:13:07,520 --> 02:13:08,680
Speaker 2: Wow, he had issues.

2961
02:13:08,720 --> 02:13:10,760
Speaker 6: So he had an issue. Yeah, he had too in

2962
02:13:10,840 --> 02:13:15,840
Speaker 6: both a CLS. Jimmy Hitchcock did not have a CLS. Yeah,

2963
02:13:16,040 --> 02:13:16,360
Speaker 6: there you go.

2964
02:13:18,560 --> 02:13:21,840
Speaker 2: I just remember the Super Bowl against Green Bay in

2965
02:13:21,960 --> 02:13:24,960
Speaker 2: ninety six. He sat outside the hotel pretty much the

2966
02:13:24,960 --> 02:13:27,480
Speaker 2: whole week, playing chess out on the street.

2967
02:13:27,600 --> 02:13:30,400
Speaker 6: With just random Yeah, that's pretty cool.

2968
02:13:31,600 --> 02:13:33,960
Speaker 2: Phil in San Antonio, Texas. What's up, Phil?

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Speaker 14: Hey?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

2971
02:13:36,440 --> 02:13:38,960
Speaker 18: I just I can't believe that we didn't jump up

2972
02:13:39,080 --> 02:13:42,240
Speaker 18: or take any of these tight ends because it's just

2973
02:13:42,560 --> 02:13:45,480
Speaker 18: you know, I mean they started going quick, and uh,

2974
02:13:46,160 --> 02:13:48,520
Speaker 18: you know, I get the first pick, but you know,

2975
02:13:48,720 --> 02:13:50,960
Speaker 18: at this point it's like, you know what, we got

2976
02:13:51,040 --> 02:13:54,640
Speaker 18: one tight end left that's gonna that'll kind of land.

2977
02:13:55,120 --> 02:13:57,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, I thought they'd move up to But I

2978
02:13:58,680 --> 02:14:01,040
Speaker 2: why they didn't may not be for a lack of trying.

2979
02:14:01,200 --> 02:14:03,320
Speaker 2: They may not have just been able to find somebody

2980
02:14:03,400 --> 02:14:05,720
Speaker 2: willing to dance with him, you know.

2981
02:14:06,480 --> 02:14:07,880
Speaker 6: I mean, I still don't rule it out. I think

2982
02:14:07,880 --> 02:14:09,600
Speaker 6: they could at any minute here pop back up.

2983
02:14:09,680 --> 02:14:14,640
Speaker 18: But I know, yeah, I'm hoping that, you know, defensive

2984
02:14:14,640 --> 02:14:16,480
Speaker 18: front wise, I understand why he went with that size.

2985
02:14:16,520 --> 02:14:18,000
Speaker 18: You know, it fits his mold. I mean, I really

2986
02:14:18,080 --> 02:14:22,440
Speaker 18: like that got Baylor that giant nose tackle. You know,

2987
02:14:22,480 --> 02:14:24,120
Speaker 18: I think that that'd be a really good way to

2988
02:14:24,200 --> 02:14:24,840
Speaker 18: shore up our.

2989
02:14:25,000 --> 02:14:25,560
Speaker 2: At this point.

2990
02:14:25,720 --> 02:14:27,560
Speaker 6: At this point though, if they took it, they took

2991
02:14:27,600 --> 02:14:29,480
Speaker 6: a defensive lineman right now.

2992
02:14:30,480 --> 02:14:34,480
Speaker 18: No, No, definitely, yeah, definitely later. I mean I'm just saying,

2993
02:14:35,200 --> 02:14:37,280
Speaker 18: you know, I would have gone tight end now and

2994
02:14:37,800 --> 02:14:40,280
Speaker 18: be worried about the defensive line later. But you know,

2995
02:14:40,360 --> 02:14:42,320
Speaker 18: I mean, because both are tight ends right now, are

2996
02:14:42,360 --> 02:14:44,400
Speaker 18: on one year, right after this year, they're done.

2997
02:14:44,400 --> 02:14:45,600
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, yeah.

2998
02:14:45,800 --> 02:14:48,560
Speaker 8: I mean, look, whatever is going on with Darnell Washington,

2999
02:14:48,560 --> 02:14:50,720
Speaker 8: I'm just going to keep on crossing him off because

3000
02:14:50,760 --> 02:14:53,480
Speaker 8: I if he's got a serious medical red flag, then

3001
02:14:53,520 --> 02:14:55,240
Speaker 8: I don't think the Patriots are going to draft him.

3002
02:14:55,600 --> 02:14:58,120
Speaker 8: But Tucker Craft is the one that just he's still

3003
02:14:58,160 --> 02:15:00,720
Speaker 8: hanging around. There's a lot of smoke around him. I

3004
02:15:00,720 --> 02:15:03,040
Speaker 8: think he's a versatile player. I can catch the ball

3005
02:15:03,280 --> 02:15:06,240
Speaker 8: out of different alignments, run with the football a little

3006
02:15:06,240 --> 02:15:08,000
Speaker 8: bit after the catch. I think he averaged over seven

3007
02:15:08,080 --> 02:15:11,520
Speaker 8: yards after the catch last year. And he comes from

3008
02:15:11,560 --> 02:15:13,680
Speaker 8: a school in South Dakota State. They just took Pierre

3009
02:15:13,760 --> 02:15:17,120
Speaker 8: Strong last year, so a similar You know, they know

3010
02:15:17,200 --> 02:15:19,960
Speaker 8: the program, they're familiar with the coaches down there or

3011
02:15:20,240 --> 02:15:22,880
Speaker 8: over there, I guess I should say, and you know,

3012
02:15:23,000 --> 02:15:25,360
Speaker 8: I think that there's there's a lot of smoke with

3013
02:15:25,480 --> 02:15:26,960
Speaker 8: that one. So if they're going to target a tight

3014
02:15:27,080 --> 02:15:28,640
Speaker 8: end in the third round, I think their guy might

3015
02:15:28,680 --> 02:15:29,400
Speaker 8: be Tuck the Craft.

3016
02:15:29,560 --> 02:15:29,720
Speaker 6: Yeah.

3017
02:15:29,760 --> 02:15:32,800
Speaker 7: I watched him unfortunately against Holy Cross, but he they

3018
02:15:32,960 --> 02:15:34,600
Speaker 7: him and and the other there's another tight end from

3019
02:15:34,600 --> 02:15:36,880
Speaker 7: there too that was really good. Those two guys were

3020
02:15:36,960 --> 02:15:38,840
Speaker 7: just men amongst boys, which of course is what you

3021
02:15:38,880 --> 02:15:40,400
Speaker 7: know you look for at the FCS level.

3022
02:15:40,480 --> 02:15:43,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, they I mean, the goal was to get him

3023
02:15:43,360 --> 02:15:45,760
Speaker 8: to Alabama. They tried to offer him a lucrative and

3024
02:15:45,880 --> 02:15:49,000
Speaker 8: il deal to go to Alabama, and he just I

3025
02:15:49,080 --> 02:15:51,680
Speaker 8: think he was a loyal guy and stuck with South

3026
02:15:51,760 --> 02:15:54,920
Speaker 8: Dakota State, and uh, he stayed at that school. But

3027
02:15:55,480 --> 02:15:58,400
Speaker 8: somebody has got some versatility that can run with the football,

3028
02:15:59,200 --> 02:16:02,320
Speaker 8: can rush run seam as a seam threat as well.

3029
02:16:02,360 --> 02:16:03,880
Speaker 8: And I think he can block a little bit. I

3030
02:16:03,920 --> 02:16:06,440
Speaker 8: don't think he's a finished in line blocker right now,

3031
02:16:07,040 --> 02:16:09,480
Speaker 8: but he's got some power and some ability to be

3032
02:16:09,560 --> 02:16:10,600
Speaker 8: an in line blocker for sure.

3033
02:16:10,920 --> 02:16:14,160
Speaker 2: Darren writes in he said, Keon's reaction to being drafted

3034
02:16:14,240 --> 02:16:16,960
Speaker 2: leads me to believe he might be considering not signing.

3035
02:16:17,440 --> 02:16:20,200
Speaker 2: If I remember correctly, Bo Jackson chose to do just that.

3036
02:16:20,360 --> 02:16:22,280
Speaker 2: Do you think that Keon might not want to play

3037
02:16:22,360 --> 02:16:24,800
Speaker 2: for the Patriots or just not wanting to play for

3038
02:16:24,880 --> 02:16:27,320
Speaker 2: the money he'd be getting as a second round pick. Well,

3039
02:16:27,520 --> 02:16:30,480
Speaker 2: he definitely wasn't happy, and a successful real estate person

3040
02:16:30,600 --> 02:16:31,600
Speaker 2: might make more money.

3041
02:16:32,600 --> 02:16:33,320
Speaker 6: No, I don't know.

3042
02:16:33,360 --> 02:16:35,440
Speaker 7: I mean based on I haven't listened to the call yet,

3043
02:16:35,520 --> 02:16:37,480
Speaker 7: but based on the quotes, like he just I think

3044
02:16:37,520 --> 02:16:39,480
Speaker 7: he's a unique dude, and I think he marches, probably

3045
02:16:39,520 --> 02:16:41,440
Speaker 7: marches to his own drum, and I just get a

3046
02:16:41,480 --> 02:16:42,600
Speaker 7: serious vibe about him.

3047
02:16:42,640 --> 02:16:44,640
Speaker 6: The second part of that, I have no idea. Maybe

3048
02:16:44,680 --> 02:16:46,760
Speaker 6: he doesn't he decided I don't want to play football,

3049
02:16:47,040 --> 02:16:48,960
Speaker 6: but I didn't go in the first round, so I'll forget.

3050
02:16:49,000 --> 02:16:51,880
Speaker 6: I'm taking my ball. The other part, like, it's kind

3051
02:16:51,920 --> 02:16:54,640
Speaker 6: of hard for a second round pick to dictate where

3052
02:16:54,680 --> 02:16:57,560
Speaker 6: he's going, Like, I'm not playing for them, so I'm

3053
02:16:57,560 --> 02:17:00,480
Speaker 6: not going to sign. That's that's not happening. All they're

3054
02:17:00,480 --> 02:17:02,960
Speaker 6: all slotted, so they all make you know, the you know,

3055
02:17:03,120 --> 02:17:06,040
Speaker 6: a set amount of money. But it was interesting. You

3056
02:17:06,120 --> 02:17:08,320
Speaker 6: don't really normally see guys that get drafted have that

3057
02:17:08,440 --> 02:17:13,160
Speaker 6: kind of reaction. How about Cedric Tillman anyone? Yeah, No,

3058
02:17:13,240 --> 02:17:16,400
Speaker 6: I like sender Timman Lot sure. Yeah, And then you know,

3059
02:17:16,520 --> 02:17:18,440
Speaker 6: I just think it's interesting. And I know Fred's gonna

3060
02:17:18,520 --> 02:17:21,320
Speaker 6: yell at me. The thing I brought up earlier, like,

3061
02:17:22,600 --> 02:17:25,240
Speaker 6: you guys aren't necessarily sold that they'll take a quarterback

3062
02:17:25,280 --> 02:17:27,200
Speaker 6: in the draft, Like, is it completely out of the

3063
02:17:27,280 --> 02:17:31,760
Speaker 6: Roman possibility to Hendon Hooker? Hendon Hooker? Is it complete?

3064
02:17:31,840 --> 02:17:31,880
Speaker 9: No?

3065
02:17:32,000 --> 02:17:33,680
Speaker 8: Of course, not completely. Anything's possible.

3066
02:17:34,040 --> 02:17:36,360
Speaker 6: So how about how about packaging fourth round picks to

3067
02:17:36,560 --> 02:17:39,920
Speaker 6: move up for a second third rounder and taking Hendon Hooker.

3068
02:17:40,160 --> 02:17:46,240
Speaker 6: I I'd rather that really, not only does it not

3069
02:17:46,400 --> 02:17:49,120
Speaker 6: only does it just those I'm just going to say,

3070
02:17:50,320 --> 02:17:52,920
Speaker 6: probably not going to help them twenty twenty three tea.

3071
02:17:53,120 --> 02:17:55,280
Speaker 2: No, But I just and it won't help them from

3072
02:17:55,360 --> 02:17:56,160
Speaker 2: a morale either.

3073
02:17:56,320 --> 02:17:58,480
Speaker 7: I just I just think they got to hit something

3074
02:17:58,520 --> 02:18:01,480
Speaker 7: on offense here, whether to tackle, whether it's a tight end,

3075
02:18:01,720 --> 02:18:03,920
Speaker 7: and maybe a receiver of one of those three need

3076
02:18:04,000 --> 02:18:06,360
Speaker 7: offensive positions here. You're going to be in the third round,

3077
02:18:06,440 --> 02:18:08,840
Speaker 7: You're getting down to the you know, the the point

3078
02:18:08,879 --> 02:18:10,920
Speaker 7: in the draft where you just start drafting traits and

3079
02:18:11,000 --> 02:18:14,360
Speaker 7: everybody's got issues at that point. So I just I think,

3080
02:18:14,800 --> 02:18:16,480
Speaker 7: you know, I hate thinking of things like you need

3081
02:18:16,560 --> 02:18:18,320
Speaker 7: to calm the masses and you know, get back to

3082
02:18:18,640 --> 02:18:21,959
Speaker 7: a pick that everyone agrees with. But I think that's

3083
02:18:22,040 --> 02:18:24,040
Speaker 7: kind of what would happen if you took an offensive

3084
02:18:24,040 --> 02:18:24,520
Speaker 7: player right now.

3085
02:18:24,520 --> 02:18:26,320
Speaker 6: People will be like, all right, all right, yeah I am.

3086
02:18:26,720 --> 02:18:31,080
Speaker 8: We are starting to broach Charlie Jones territory right now.

3087
02:18:31,160 --> 02:18:32,880
Speaker 8: And if they want to get me back on board,

3088
02:18:32,879 --> 02:18:35,400
Speaker 8: because that's the most important thing, of course, is making

3089
02:18:35,440 --> 02:18:37,360
Speaker 8: sure I signed off on the guys that they pick,

3090
02:18:37,440 --> 02:18:39,680
Speaker 8: that'd be a fun Paul face. They can take Charlie

3091
02:18:39,760 --> 02:18:42,560
Speaker 8: Jones at some point like yeah, and uh, and we

3092
02:18:42,640 --> 02:18:43,959
Speaker 8: can then get.

3093
02:18:43,840 --> 02:18:46,720
Speaker 6: Me back on board with this class. So let's past David.

3094
02:18:47,280 --> 02:18:48,920
Speaker 2: David's in New York. What's up, David?

3095
02:18:50,080 --> 02:18:51,320
Speaker 5: Hey, guys, that's going good.

3096
02:18:53,000 --> 02:18:53,120
Speaker 2: Uh.

3097
02:18:53,360 --> 02:18:58,240
Speaker 36: So we talk about how far Dark Washington's fallen so far,

3098
02:18:58,400 --> 02:19:00,800
Speaker 36: and obviously that's a medical thing. I guess I have

3099
02:19:00,879 --> 02:19:05,560
Speaker 36: a question this might lean more towards Evan. I'm more

3100
02:19:05,640 --> 02:19:08,360
Speaker 36: surprised to how far Dewan Jones is falling because I

3101
02:19:08,400 --> 02:19:10,000
Speaker 36: know there were some rumors that he maybe he could

3102
02:19:10,000 --> 02:19:12,720
Speaker 36: be a first round pick or early second round pick.

3103
02:19:12,760 --> 02:19:15,480
Speaker 36: Why do you think that he's fallen so far so far?

3104
02:19:16,000 --> 02:19:17,920
Speaker 8: Well, you know, I think the thing that you do

3105
02:19:18,040 --> 02:19:21,200
Speaker 8: see with Dewan Jones is that at six foot eight,

3106
02:19:21,240 --> 02:19:24,120
Speaker 8: three hundred and eighty pounds, he is heavy footed, Like,

3107
02:19:24,400 --> 02:19:27,520
Speaker 8: this is not a guy that's that you're gonna mistake

3108
02:19:27,600 --> 02:19:31,400
Speaker 8: for being rangy and sort of athletic. You know, at

3109
02:19:31,440 --> 02:19:34,720
Speaker 8: the tackle position, he's a three hundred and eighty pound tackle.

3110
02:19:34,760 --> 02:19:36,840
Speaker 8: He's exactly like if you just think about what a

3111
02:19:36,879 --> 02:19:39,000
Speaker 8: three hundred and eighty pound tackle plays like, that's what

3112
02:19:39,200 --> 02:19:40,480
Speaker 8: Dewan Jones plays like.

3113
02:19:40,600 --> 02:19:40,760
Speaker 2: You know.

3114
02:19:40,959 --> 02:19:42,680
Speaker 6: So I think that's part of it.

3115
02:19:43,800 --> 02:19:46,160
Speaker 36: Yeah, do you think he's still a good candidate for

3116
02:19:46,920 --> 02:19:49,000
Speaker 36: maybe a trade up or if he still falls to

3117
02:19:49,240 --> 02:19:49,800
Speaker 36: seventy six.

3118
02:19:50,080 --> 02:19:52,000
Speaker 8: I mean, I think you'd be a huge steal at

3119
02:19:52,080 --> 02:19:54,520
Speaker 8: seventy six. He can play right tackle in the league

3120
02:19:54,560 --> 02:19:56,920
Speaker 8: for the Patriots, because they that's the type of skill

3121
02:19:57,000 --> 02:19:59,920
Speaker 8: set that they feel comfortable with playing on the right side.

3122
02:20:00,080 --> 02:20:02,320
Speaker 8: Guy that can move people in the run game and

3123
02:20:02,520 --> 02:20:04,600
Speaker 8: use his length and power to kind of you know,

3124
02:20:05,120 --> 02:20:07,160
Speaker 8: make sure that they can't turn the corner and things

3125
02:20:07,240 --> 02:20:09,960
Speaker 8: like that. Sure, yeah, I could definitely see him as

3126
02:20:10,040 --> 02:20:12,800
Speaker 8: somebody that they would entertain here in the third round.

3127
02:20:13,080 --> 02:20:15,840
Speaker 8: They do not like Ohio State players though, so just

3128
02:20:16,200 --> 02:20:18,440
Speaker 8: that that's one caveat i'd put on it. I don't

3129
02:20:18,440 --> 02:20:21,000
Speaker 8: think they've taken an Ohio State player since Nate Ebner.

3130
02:20:20,760 --> 02:20:23,160
Speaker 6: Which was thanks David, she didn't really play.

3131
02:20:23,360 --> 02:20:25,720
Speaker 2: What was I don't know if you were like into

3132
02:20:25,800 --> 02:20:28,200
Speaker 2: the draft as much then as you are now, But

3133
02:20:28,480 --> 02:20:33,039
Speaker 2: what was Tyron Smith's you know analysis coming out of college?

3134
02:20:33,200 --> 02:20:34,920
Speaker 6: Freak freak prototype.

3135
02:20:35,280 --> 02:20:38,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think with Tyron Smith, that's the

3136
02:20:38,080 --> 02:20:41,039
Speaker 8: one guy that whenever you just look at a guy

3137
02:20:41,200 --> 02:20:44,680
Speaker 8: that you're like, that's that's an offensive tackle in the NFL.

3138
02:20:45,200 --> 02:20:47,680
Speaker 8: Tyron Smith is just like the poster child of that.

3139
02:20:48,520 --> 02:20:51,440
Speaker 8: I think Paris Johnson has some Tyron Smith qualities to

3140
02:20:51,520 --> 02:20:53,800
Speaker 8: him and why he went sixth overall in this draft.

3141
02:20:54,080 --> 02:20:56,400
Speaker 8: He's got some similar things to Tyron Smith. But Tyron

3142
02:20:56,480 --> 02:20:58,160
Speaker 8: Smith was his Cyborg coming out too.

3143
02:20:58,320 --> 02:21:01,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I just love watching him. He's one

3144
02:21:01,440 --> 02:21:04,240
Speaker 2: of my favorite players. I know he's playing right tackle now,

3145
02:21:04,360 --> 02:21:08,160
Speaker 2: but he just I just love watching, like for some reason,

3146
02:21:09,800 --> 02:21:12,640
Speaker 2: certain players like John Hannah, like John Hann other than Brady.

3147
02:21:12,680 --> 02:21:16,040
Speaker 2: John Hanna is probably my favorite Patriot, just because he

3148
02:21:16,280 --> 02:21:19,840
Speaker 2: does his position so well. You know, that's that's Tyron

3149
02:21:19,920 --> 02:21:21,800
Speaker 2: Smith to me. He was just so good at what

3150
02:21:21,959 --> 02:21:25,039
Speaker 2: he did, you know, just a joy to watch.

3151
02:21:25,120 --> 02:21:27,600
Speaker 7: I mean John Hannah, those highlights from him, yeah, I

3152
02:21:27,680 --> 02:21:31,359
Speaker 7: mean absolutely crushing people with like just extreme prejudice.

3153
02:21:31,560 --> 02:21:34,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like from the neck down, just solid and

3154
02:21:34,879 --> 02:21:38,480
Speaker 2: he could move and just you know, like people say,

3155
02:21:38,520 --> 02:21:41,720
Speaker 2: he's the best guard ever. And you just love watching greatness.

3156
02:21:41,920 --> 02:21:44,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I need some greatness here.

3157
02:21:44,200 --> 02:21:46,320
Speaker 2: Ye, Joey's in Maine. What's up, Joey?

3158
02:21:48,200 --> 02:21:48,360
Speaker 21: Hey?

3159
02:21:49,959 --> 02:21:53,120
Speaker 37: Huge fan of the Gonzo pick. I don't really know

3160
02:21:53,280 --> 02:21:56,120
Speaker 37: much about the edge Drusher that we took, but I

3161
02:21:56,320 --> 02:21:58,600
Speaker 37: like that. I wanted your guys opinion on the things

3162
02:21:58,640 --> 02:22:02,400
Speaker 37: the Lions moved up to steal Branch from US Brian

3163
02:22:02,480 --> 02:22:05,440
Speaker 37: Branch because I know maybe the guys that Evan Andduce

3164
02:22:05,480 --> 02:22:07,240
Speaker 37: had on on the show, they were talking a lot

3165
02:22:07,360 --> 02:22:09,320
Speaker 37: about how Brian Branch was.

3166
02:22:09,280 --> 02:22:10,000
Speaker 27: A Patriots fit.

3167
02:22:10,320 --> 02:22:12,560
Speaker 2: I think that might have been the case. I have

3168
02:22:12,760 --> 02:22:16,000
Speaker 2: no you know, inside knowledge or anything like that, but

3169
02:22:16,120 --> 02:22:19,520
Speaker 2: it just seems it smells like they thought the Patriots

3170
02:22:19,560 --> 02:22:21,520
Speaker 2: were going to go after Branch and they moved up.

3171
02:22:22,280 --> 02:22:24,880
Speaker 8: No idea, Yeah, no, I don't know, but whether they

3172
02:22:25,040 --> 02:22:27,880
Speaker 8: whether whether they thought whether the Patriots were actually going

3173
02:22:27,959 --> 02:22:30,400
Speaker 8: to take Brian Branch or not. It is crystal clear

3174
02:22:30,440 --> 02:22:33,200
Speaker 8: the Lions thought they might take Brian Branch, right, It's

3175
02:22:33,240 --> 02:22:35,360
Speaker 8: a that's that's the bottom line.

3176
02:22:35,400 --> 02:22:35,720
Speaker 2: I don't know.

3177
02:22:35,959 --> 02:22:37,840
Speaker 8: We have no intel on whether or not the Patriots

3178
02:22:37,879 --> 02:22:39,480
Speaker 8: would have taken him if he was still there at

3179
02:22:39,520 --> 02:22:42,720
Speaker 8: forty six, but certainly Detroit thought so. So yeah, I

3180
02:22:42,760 --> 02:22:44,600
Speaker 8: mean there's definitely something going on there.

3181
02:22:45,520 --> 02:22:47,800
Speaker 37: Definitely, I like Josh Downs. I know they don't want

3182
02:22:47,800 --> 02:22:50,119
Speaker 37: to talk about that, but have you guys seen anything

3183
02:22:50,160 --> 02:22:52,880
Speaker 37: about at Perry from wake Forest. I'm a huge fan

3184
02:22:52,959 --> 02:22:54,800
Speaker 37: of him, and I think I think he'd be a

3185
02:22:54,840 --> 02:22:55,360
Speaker 37: good fit.

3186
02:22:55,240 --> 02:22:55,760
Speaker 27: For the patch.

3187
02:22:56,000 --> 02:22:57,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's an interesting receiver.

3188
02:22:58,000 --> 02:22:59,840
Speaker 8: I think now you're starting to get into the tech

3189
02:23:00,080 --> 02:23:02,840
Speaker 8: territory of the At Perrys of the world third fourth

3190
02:23:02,959 --> 02:23:05,800
Speaker 8: round picks. He's a glider, you know. He's a really

3191
02:23:05,879 --> 02:23:09,879
Speaker 8: smooth runner, a good vertical route runner, you know, post corner,

3192
02:23:10,000 --> 02:23:14,240
Speaker 8: corner routes, things like that. But he's somebody that deuce.

3193
02:23:14,320 --> 02:23:17,120
Speaker 8: You don't really like the guys that are like, you know,

3194
02:23:17,800 --> 02:23:21,640
Speaker 8: that build up speed, long striders like that's what at

3195
02:23:21,800 --> 02:23:22,280
Speaker 8: Perry is.

3196
02:23:22,360 --> 02:23:22,440
Speaker 14: Now.

3197
02:23:22,520 --> 02:23:24,320
Speaker 8: He was a Shrine Bowl guy, but he played for

3198
02:23:24,400 --> 02:23:26,480
Speaker 8: the other team at the Shrine Bowl, not the Patriots

3199
02:23:26,520 --> 02:23:27,360
Speaker 8: team at the Shrine Bowl.

3200
02:23:27,440 --> 02:23:28,640
Speaker 6: But that's what he is.

3201
02:23:28,760 --> 02:23:31,600
Speaker 8: He's a a glider. He just doesn't look like he's

3202
02:23:31,640 --> 02:23:33,880
Speaker 8: moving that fast, but he seems to get on guys

3203
02:23:33,920 --> 02:23:35,720
Speaker 8: and be able to separate vertically.

3204
02:23:37,040 --> 02:23:41,280
Speaker 6: All right, Zach Pickens' pick for the I thought he

3205
02:23:41,400 --> 02:23:44,360
Speaker 6: was better like when he wasn't if he was being pressed,

3206
02:23:44,400 --> 02:23:45,840
Speaker 6: it looked like he was easily disrupted.

3207
02:23:46,280 --> 02:23:48,119
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's a little bit thin, you know. I think

3208
02:23:48,200 --> 02:23:50,240
Speaker 8: when we went out there at the Shrine Bowl the

3209
02:23:50,280 --> 02:23:52,960
Speaker 8: first day of practice, Alex and I were trying to

3210
02:23:53,000 --> 02:23:55,279
Speaker 8: find at Perry because he's the guy that was pretty

3211
02:23:55,480 --> 02:23:57,880
Speaker 8: touted in someone that was going to go in the

3212
02:23:57,959 --> 02:24:00,480
Speaker 8: top one fifty of the draft, and we saw him,

3213
02:24:00,520 --> 02:24:02,520
Speaker 8: we were like, that's a pretty thin, thin guy.

3214
02:24:04,640 --> 02:24:06,040
Speaker 2: Eagles have back to back picks.

3215
02:24:06,120 --> 02:24:08,920
Speaker 7: The first one is in Yeah, they took Tyler Stein,

3216
02:24:08,959 --> 02:24:12,080
Speaker 7: who was an Alabama tackle and I think I think

3217
02:24:12,200 --> 02:24:14,000
Speaker 7: during one of the shows this week, you asked us, like,

3218
02:24:14,040 --> 02:24:15,959
Speaker 7: who's one player you think will be a Patriot and.

3219
02:24:16,000 --> 02:24:18,240
Speaker 6: That was one of the guys we mentioned.

3220
02:24:18,280 --> 02:24:21,000
Speaker 7: But yep, yeah, he's I mean, you can't ignore an

3221
02:24:21,040 --> 02:24:27,200
Speaker 7: Alabama versatile ala. I mean, Bill O'Brien clearly familiar with him. Yeah,

3222
02:24:27,240 --> 02:24:29,760
Speaker 7: you know, it's it's it's they're they're going through guys

3223
02:24:29,840 --> 02:24:33,040
Speaker 7: right now. It's it's see, it's just getting carter and

3224
02:24:33,080 --> 02:24:35,000
Speaker 7: harder to be like I love this guy, Like, you.

3225
02:24:35,040 --> 02:24:39,960
Speaker 8: Know, yeah, I just I remember Bill saying along a

3226
02:24:40,040 --> 02:24:42,960
Speaker 8: while ago that one thing in the draft you don't

3227
02:24:42,959 --> 02:24:45,320
Speaker 8: want to do is just watch the parade go by, right,

3228
02:24:45,400 --> 02:24:47,800
Speaker 8: and and all this talent just kind of comes off

3229
02:24:47,840 --> 02:24:50,039
Speaker 8: the board and you're just sitting there waiting to pick

3230
02:24:50,160 --> 02:24:54,080
Speaker 8: every time, right, And Tyler Stein's another one of those guys,

3231
02:24:54,280 --> 02:24:56,360
Speaker 8: you know, Marvin Mims just went a couple of picks

3232
02:24:56,400 --> 02:24:57,040
Speaker 8: ago as well.

3233
02:24:57,720 --> 02:24:58,960
Speaker 6: Did they just not like these? Like?

3234
02:24:59,040 --> 02:25:01,560
Speaker 8: I can't imagine that they didn't like Tyler Stein. I

3235
02:25:01,640 --> 02:25:03,960
Speaker 8: mean he played left tackle four Bill O'Brien and was

3236
02:25:04,040 --> 02:25:06,640
Speaker 8: really good at it last year at Alabama. So I

3237
02:25:06,760 --> 02:25:09,160
Speaker 8: can't imagine that they didn't have Tyler Steen on the

3238
02:25:09,240 --> 02:25:13,680
Speaker 8: board somewhere. So what's what's the what's the snag?

3239
02:25:13,840 --> 02:25:13,960
Speaker 17: Right?

3240
02:25:14,040 --> 02:25:14,360
Speaker 2: You know what?

3241
02:25:14,520 --> 02:25:17,160
Speaker 8: Why why not trade up and go make a trade

3242
02:25:17,200 --> 02:25:19,520
Speaker 8: for for a guy like Steen? If you feel like

3243
02:25:19,560 --> 02:25:20,920
Speaker 8: he's going to start to go here soon?

3244
02:25:21,520 --> 02:25:25,200
Speaker 7: Do you guys can come to you, I'll says.

3245
02:25:25,240 --> 02:25:27,080
Speaker 2: The feed went off after an hour. It's dead even

3246
02:25:27,120 --> 02:25:29,320
Speaker 2: on your website. Disappointing. Been listening to the show for

3247
02:25:29,440 --> 02:25:31,520
Speaker 2: twenty three years and this is the worst. No, just

3248
02:25:31,600 --> 02:25:35,960
Speaker 2: the video feed went off at uh nine, eight o'clock.

3249
02:25:36,440 --> 02:25:37,480
Speaker 2: But we're still on audio.

3250
02:25:37,640 --> 02:25:41,959
Speaker 6: So that's per NFL rules, right, it's not by Yeah.

3251
02:25:41,879 --> 02:25:44,480
Speaker 2: So I don't know al if you're I don't know

3252
02:25:44,560 --> 02:25:47,320
Speaker 2: if this is a movie because you're not listening anymore,

3253
02:25:47,400 --> 02:25:51,120
Speaker 2: but just firing anywhere. I think we're still a right,

3254
02:25:51,200 --> 02:25:53,720
Speaker 2: Matt Lapan, he's nodding his head, Yes, okay.

3255
02:25:53,560 --> 02:25:55,760
Speaker 6: Good, I mean people are interactive on the show.

3256
02:25:56,240 --> 02:25:58,879
Speaker 2: Todd in Nova Scotia. Why does Paul hate good players?

3257
02:25:58,920 --> 02:26:00,760
Speaker 2: It's a good question when I ask.

3258
02:26:00,680 --> 02:26:01,720
Speaker 6: A lot what good player?

3259
02:26:01,920 --> 02:26:03,240
Speaker 2: I don't know.

3260
02:26:04,040 --> 02:26:05,720
Speaker 6: You see what happens? They thought you were if you

3261
02:26:05,800 --> 02:26:08,200
Speaker 6: guys spent the whole round trying to get me in

3262
02:26:08,240 --> 02:26:10,200
Speaker 6: an argument about Christian Gonzalez and what did I keep

3263
02:26:10,240 --> 02:26:12,800
Speaker 6: telling you? I hate going there because I like this

3264
02:26:12,879 --> 02:26:15,160
Speaker 6: guy too much, and this is what happens, and and

3265
02:26:15,240 --> 02:26:17,280
Speaker 6: and you weren't even the one who killed I'm not

3266
02:26:17,360 --> 02:26:23,200
Speaker 6: killing I did not kill him. And I've defended you

3267
02:26:23,320 --> 02:26:24,640
Speaker 6: on that because I don't think that you were on

3268
02:26:24,720 --> 02:26:30,760
Speaker 6: the ledge about it from him. I don't think he's

3269
02:26:30,760 --> 02:26:33,720
Speaker 6: an explosive like edge pass rush, that's all.

3270
02:26:33,840 --> 02:26:36,640
Speaker 2: But is it that key on White you don't think

3271
02:26:37,000 --> 02:26:39,760
Speaker 2: fits the Patriots or just in today's NFL.

3272
02:26:40,360 --> 02:26:42,920
Speaker 8: The second one. He definitely fits the Patriots. He's a

3273
02:26:43,040 --> 02:26:45,640
Speaker 8: total He's a total Patriot type of guy. You know,

3274
02:26:45,840 --> 02:26:50,360
Speaker 8: talk about play strength, versatility, you know, play playing with

3275
02:26:50,400 --> 02:26:52,560
Speaker 8: the hand in the dirt, you know, three four n

3276
02:26:52,840 --> 02:26:56,000
Speaker 8: Maybe kick him inside on passing situations if you want

3277
02:26:56,040 --> 02:26:57,200
Speaker 8: to try to keep him on the field and have

3278
02:26:57,320 --> 02:27:00,440
Speaker 8: him rushed from a three technique. He's definitely a patriot guy.

3279
02:27:00,920 --> 02:27:02,480
Speaker 8: The issue that I have with it is that in

3280
02:27:02,560 --> 02:27:05,320
Speaker 8: today's NFL, I just don't know if guys that just

3281
02:27:05,440 --> 02:27:08,480
Speaker 8: pushed the pocket and hold the point of attack, and like,

3282
02:27:08,600 --> 02:27:12,000
Speaker 8: what's the value in that type of player? We talked

3283
02:27:12,040 --> 02:27:15,160
Speaker 8: about last night, a ton that Christian Gonzalez helps you

3284
02:27:15,600 --> 02:27:18,520
Speaker 8: try to slow down Aaron Rodgers and Josh Allen and

3285
02:27:18,640 --> 02:27:22,920
Speaker 8: the Dolphins passing offense by giving you a potential number

3286
02:27:23,000 --> 02:27:26,760
Speaker 8: one corner. What Kean White had seven sacks in the

3287
02:27:26,840 --> 02:27:31,400
Speaker 8: ACC last year, So what what's the what's the how

3288
02:27:31,520 --> 02:27:33,920
Speaker 8: is that going to help you against Josh Allen? And

3289
02:27:34,320 --> 02:27:37,600
Speaker 8: maybe it's they have a really good front four now

3290
02:27:37,640 --> 02:27:39,840
Speaker 8: that can hold the run and they can play seven

3291
02:27:39,879 --> 02:27:42,480
Speaker 8: guys in coverage all the time, and but I just

3292
02:27:42,920 --> 02:27:45,760
Speaker 8: I think that that's an antiquated way of thinking about it,

3293
02:27:45,920 --> 02:27:48,040
Speaker 8: and I just don't love it for that reason.

3294
02:27:48,240 --> 02:27:51,720
Speaker 2: Hold on now, I mean, like playing seven guys all

3295
02:27:51,800 --> 02:27:55,320
Speaker 2: the time is you know in the back it is

3296
02:27:55,440 --> 02:27:56,720
Speaker 2: important in today's NFL.

3297
02:27:56,840 --> 02:27:59,040
Speaker 8: But he doesn't get after the passer, like he's not

3298
02:27:59,120 --> 02:28:00,760
Speaker 8: going to be a pass for type of guy. I

3299
02:28:00,840 --> 02:28:03,920
Speaker 8: don't think that's that's the whole thing. In today's NFL,

3300
02:28:03,959 --> 02:28:06,840
Speaker 8: the guys that that let rack up pressures in sacks

3301
02:28:07,080 --> 02:28:11,200
Speaker 8: are guys like Judean guys like guys like a Christian Barmore,

3302
02:28:11,200 --> 02:28:13,680
Speaker 8: who have explosiveness to get off the ball quickly, you

3303
02:28:13,760 --> 02:28:17,480
Speaker 8: can turn the corner, have flexibility, have multiple pass rush moves.

3304
02:28:17,760 --> 02:28:20,199
Speaker 8: Kean White is a bowling ball. You know, he doesn't

3305
02:28:20,320 --> 02:28:23,560
Speaker 8: have a counter. He doesn't have that bowling ball is

3306
02:28:23,640 --> 02:28:24,039
Speaker 8: a strike.

3307
02:28:24,200 --> 02:28:24,360
Speaker 6: Yeah.

3308
02:28:24,720 --> 02:28:26,480
Speaker 7: Well, and I think to to just to like, you know,

3309
02:28:26,840 --> 02:28:29,360
Speaker 7: offer a little bit. I mean, he was a tight end,

3310
02:28:29,400 --> 02:28:31,120
Speaker 7: you know, so I think he's there's still something to that.

3311
02:28:31,280 --> 02:28:34,000
Speaker 7: This is new to the permission to position. He's a

3312
02:28:34,120 --> 02:28:36,720
Speaker 7: defensive pier. So you know, I do think that there's

3313
02:28:36,840 --> 02:28:38,480
Speaker 7: this the full book hasn't been written yet.

3314
02:28:38,640 --> 02:28:40,760
Speaker 6: That's key on one. That's that's where it is. He's

3315
02:28:40,840 --> 02:28:44,800
Speaker 6: actually going to play tight end. So they I got

3316
02:28:44,840 --> 02:28:45,240
Speaker 6: a weapon.

3317
02:28:46,600 --> 02:28:49,080
Speaker 8: I'm really not trying to trash on the kid, but

3318
02:28:49,160 --> 02:28:50,640
Speaker 8: I gotta be honest with you. The whole tight end

3319
02:28:50,680 --> 02:28:53,400
Speaker 8: thing that I don't care like so so he want

3320
02:28:53,520 --> 02:28:55,000
Speaker 8: upon a time played tight end like.

3321
02:28:55,200 --> 02:28:57,360
Speaker 6: But they played defensive end for two years. You know,

3322
02:28:57,720 --> 02:29:01,360
Speaker 6: all these guys a whole year. You still don't get me, apparently,

3323
02:29:01,520 --> 02:29:03,680
Speaker 6: I don't know. That was a total joke. No you

3324
02:29:03,840 --> 02:29:04,640
Speaker 6: I God, I know.

3325
02:29:06,560 --> 02:29:06,600
Speaker 9: No.

3326
02:29:07,000 --> 02:29:11,160
Speaker 6: Well my point was, yeah, Hendon Hooker, so we're not

3327
02:29:11,240 --> 02:29:13,840
Speaker 6: taking them, so sorry, Paul. Well, there was like one

3328
02:29:13,920 --> 02:29:15,800
Speaker 6: hundred picks to go before we got to us, right.

3329
02:29:15,879 --> 02:29:18,360
Speaker 8: No, no, got uh we got eight picks to go

3330
02:29:18,760 --> 02:29:19,360
Speaker 8: seventy six.

3331
02:29:19,680 --> 02:29:21,840
Speaker 6: It wasn't exactly imminent. The Rams, I think, are coming

3332
02:29:21,920 --> 02:29:27,640
Speaker 6: up to the Rams, they would have taken them. Yeah, okay,

3333
02:29:27,959 --> 02:29:29,720
Speaker 6: Sexans are now on the clock, so the Rams were

3334
02:29:29,800 --> 02:29:31,800
Speaker 6: gonna take Oh so they traded up and now they

3335
02:29:31,959 --> 02:29:35,000
Speaker 6: get no. Rams traded out because I think they were

3336
02:29:35,040 --> 02:29:37,840
Speaker 6: going to take the quarterback. Oh you think so, I'm

3337
02:29:37,879 --> 02:29:40,480
Speaker 6: just making stuff up. Could be, could be, It's good

3338
02:29:40,520 --> 02:29:42,440
Speaker 6: for morale. At nine thirty one, a couple of nice

3339
02:29:42,480 --> 02:29:45,520
Speaker 6: picks by the Eagles. Though I liked Tylerstein. I like

3340
02:29:45,600 --> 02:29:48,480
Speaker 6: Sidney Brown too. Yep, I guess the other the other

3341
02:29:48,840 --> 02:29:50,760
Speaker 6: had anois first round defensive back. Yeah.

3342
02:29:51,400 --> 02:29:54,360
Speaker 7: I mean sometimes these drafts usually so the Ravens. I

3343
02:29:54,400 --> 02:29:56,080
Speaker 7: look at the Ravens draft and I'm like, they got

3344
02:29:56,080 --> 02:29:57,920
Speaker 7: all my big board guys, you know, like those like

3345
02:29:58,200 --> 02:29:59,960
Speaker 7: for some reason sometimes Raven.

3346
02:30:00,240 --> 02:30:03,320
Speaker 8: Last year it was every draft expert Darling, you know,

3347
02:30:03,480 --> 02:30:06,680
Speaker 8: Kyle Hamilton in the first round, they hit all the hits,

3348
02:30:06,800 --> 02:30:09,960
Speaker 8: you know, they they just got all this consensus mock

3349
02:30:10,080 --> 02:30:10,760
Speaker 8: draft guys.

3350
02:30:11,080 --> 02:30:14,119
Speaker 7: It is funny though, because it's like, Paul, it's your point,

3351
02:30:14,360 --> 02:30:17,560
Speaker 7: what are the Eagles doing drafting guys from Georgia and Alabama?

3352
02:30:18,200 --> 02:30:20,240
Speaker 6: Like I mean, it's it's it's not that good football

3353
02:30:20,240 --> 02:30:22,800
Speaker 6: players finding a way, you know, figuring out where you're

3354
02:30:22,800 --> 02:30:27,039
Speaker 6: gonna put them later. But like that sometimes can be tough.

3355
02:30:27,240 --> 02:30:30,840
Speaker 6: Like we were joking around doing some of the draft

3356
02:30:30,879 --> 02:30:34,279
Speaker 6: podcasts and we were saying, you know, what, what exactly

3357
02:30:34,320 --> 02:30:35,640
Speaker 6: do we think the Patriots going to do? And I

3358
02:30:35,720 --> 02:30:37,080
Speaker 6: was like, you know, I know it sounds like a

3359
02:30:37,200 --> 02:30:39,840
Speaker 6: rocket shot, but the Patriots have a lot of holes,

3360
02:30:40,400 --> 02:30:42,080
Speaker 6: so they can go in a lot of different directions

3361
02:30:43,080 --> 02:30:46,200
Speaker 6: and and still fill needs. And that's where I think.

3362
02:30:48,720 --> 02:30:50,440
Speaker 6: You know, I'm not going to argue with your board

3363
02:30:50,440 --> 02:30:51,960
Speaker 6: because that would be silly for me to try to

3364
02:30:52,000 --> 02:30:54,080
Speaker 6: tell you, you know, my board, I don't have a

3365
02:30:54,120 --> 02:30:57,280
Speaker 6: board and good reason. There's a good reason for it.

3366
02:30:57,800 --> 02:31:02,320
Speaker 6: But you know, so when you take like I think

3367
02:31:02,360 --> 02:31:06,040
Speaker 6: you drafted for need and didn't necessarily get the better

3368
02:31:06,160 --> 02:31:08,600
Speaker 6: player when you could have got a different position. Like

3369
02:31:08,720 --> 02:31:10,440
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna argue that edges in the need I

3370
02:31:10,480 --> 02:31:12,360
Speaker 6: think it is, but I think you could argue that

3371
02:31:12,400 --> 02:31:15,760
Speaker 6: another position of need would have had a better player available.

3372
02:31:15,840 --> 02:31:18,959
Speaker 6: And again, I'm not gonna argue specifics, because that's that's

3373
02:31:19,000 --> 02:31:20,520
Speaker 6: stupid if I'm going to try to say, like I

3374
02:31:20,640 --> 02:31:23,000
Speaker 6: know more than mac ro and Bill Belichick, like, no,

3375
02:31:23,160 --> 02:31:25,360
Speaker 6: I don't. Obviously there's a reason I don't get paid

3376
02:31:25,400 --> 02:31:27,280
Speaker 6: to do that. You know, I don't know what I'm

3377
02:31:27,320 --> 02:31:29,080
Speaker 6: talking about, But that's just how I looked at it

3378
02:31:29,160 --> 02:31:30,200
Speaker 6: from the outside.

3379
02:31:31,000 --> 02:31:33,920
Speaker 8: I just think that looking at some of the guys

3380
02:31:33,959 --> 02:31:37,320
Speaker 8: that went in, like the the late thirties and early forties,

3381
02:31:37,760 --> 02:31:39,840
Speaker 8: it seemed like a lot of guys that you know,

3382
02:31:39,920 --> 02:31:41,600
Speaker 8: I liked, and I know, Deuce you liked a couple

3383
02:31:41,680 --> 02:31:44,640
Speaker 8: of these guys too, just went in that range. And

3384
02:31:45,879 --> 02:31:49,360
Speaker 8: maybe the trade up partner wasn't there, or maybe they

3385
02:31:49,480 --> 02:31:52,400
Speaker 8: just didn't feel as strongly about those guys as we did,

3386
02:31:52,520 --> 02:31:55,000
Speaker 8: or as I did. You know, a guy like Derek Hall,

3387
02:31:55,320 --> 02:31:59,640
Speaker 8: like Matthew bergeron Mingo Fosky, Ojulari, those guys just went

3388
02:31:59,720 --> 02:32:04,880
Speaker 8: and now thirty seven to forty one range, and maybe

3389
02:32:04,920 --> 02:32:07,920
Speaker 8: they preferred Keon White. Maybe they they liked them all

3390
02:32:08,000 --> 02:32:09,640
Speaker 8: in the same tier. You know, I had them in

3391
02:32:09,680 --> 02:32:13,080
Speaker 8: similar tiers too. I just preferred those other players a

3392
02:32:13,120 --> 02:32:16,240
Speaker 8: little bit more. But that's the draft, right, I mean,

3393
02:32:16,800 --> 02:32:18,560
Speaker 8: I I can't sit here and tell you that I

3394
02:32:18,640 --> 02:32:22,760
Speaker 8: think that Keon White was We're not gonna I don't

3395
02:32:22,760 --> 02:32:24,920
Speaker 8: know if we're going to hear that the Patriots behind

3396
02:32:24,920 --> 02:32:27,440
Speaker 8: the scenes are ecstatic that they got Keon White in

3397
02:32:27,520 --> 02:32:31,880
Speaker 8: the second round. They were ecstatic about getting Christian Gonzales last.

3398
02:32:32,080 --> 02:32:33,160
Speaker 6: That's a fair way of looking at it.

3399
02:32:33,320 --> 02:32:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Walter Football says the Patriots had worst draft source

3400
02:32:38,320 --> 02:32:41,640
Speaker 2: have numerous expiring contracts at defensive end the next couple

3401
02:32:41,640 --> 02:32:43,560
Speaker 2: of years, so they had to find a pass rusher

3402
02:32:43,640 --> 02:32:46,960
Speaker 2: for the long haul. Keon White had a slight chance

3403
02:32:47,320 --> 02:32:48,920
Speaker 2: to be a first round pick. So I think this

3404
02:32:49,080 --> 02:32:51,760
Speaker 2: is a great value pick for Bill Belichick, who was

3405
02:32:51,840 --> 02:32:53,560
Speaker 2: having a great draft thus far.

3406
02:32:55,080 --> 02:32:57,360
Speaker 7: No one name just to mention to you, Evan, Yeah,

3407
02:32:57,440 --> 02:33:01,040
Speaker 7: Jalen Hyatt, Oh boy, I mean that, I like, I

3408
02:33:01,080 --> 02:33:03,640
Speaker 7: don't know, I'm not saying that this point for the Patriots.

3409
02:33:03,680 --> 02:33:05,600
Speaker 6: I'm just saying this was a guy some people had

3410
02:33:05,600 --> 02:33:07,560
Speaker 6: in the first round. Yeah, some people are very high

3411
02:33:07,560 --> 02:33:08,320
Speaker 6: on Jalen Hyatt.

3412
02:33:08,320 --> 02:33:10,080
Speaker 8: I'm just you know, I don't want to take too

3413
02:33:10,120 --> 02:33:13,760
Speaker 8: many victory laps, but I I really did not see

3414
02:33:13,800 --> 02:33:16,200
Speaker 8: it with Jalen Hyatt, and I had him below a

3415
02:33:16,280 --> 02:33:18,240
Speaker 8: lot of the guys that have already been off the board.

3416
02:33:19,040 --> 02:33:22,039
Speaker 8: So Marvin Mims, that was like my big draft take

3417
02:33:22,120 --> 02:33:24,240
Speaker 8: with the receivers that I would have taken Marvin Mims

3418
02:33:24,320 --> 02:33:26,560
Speaker 8: over Jalen Hyade in the league, took Marvin Mims over

3419
02:33:26,640 --> 02:33:27,279
Speaker 8: Jalen High.

3420
02:33:27,600 --> 02:33:30,120
Speaker 6: And I would counter with like Tank Dell just when

3421
02:33:30,400 --> 02:33:33,800
Speaker 6: Tank that's another one of those small, like productive guys

3422
02:33:34,480 --> 02:33:37,039
Speaker 6: is going to be whatever Josh down exactly.

3423
02:33:37,120 --> 02:33:39,080
Speaker 8: I don't know that's where I was going to kill,

3424
02:33:39,680 --> 02:33:43,039
Speaker 8: So okay, don't say that I don't know what right.

3425
02:33:43,040 --> 02:33:44,840
Speaker 6: And that would be different if there's like some kind

3426
02:33:44,879 --> 02:33:47,600
Speaker 6: of Darnell Washington situation going on with him that we

3427
02:33:47,680 --> 02:33:50,280
Speaker 6: haven't learned about, you know, that would explain it has

3428
02:33:50,360 --> 02:33:50,520
Speaker 6: to be.

3429
02:33:52,240 --> 02:33:54,640
Speaker 8: There has to be for him to not go over

3430
02:33:54,760 --> 02:33:57,920
Speaker 8: Tank Dell, like that's the sime very like the size

3431
02:33:58,080 --> 02:33:59,560
Speaker 8: sixty pounds, you can't say.

3432
02:33:59,440 --> 02:34:00,240
Speaker 6: Size any more.

3433
02:34:00,320 --> 02:34:03,600
Speaker 8: And he played better in a bigger conference than Tank Dell,

3434
02:34:03,800 --> 02:34:06,840
Speaker 8: so at some point that there has to be some

3435
02:34:07,000 --> 02:34:08,800
Speaker 8: common sense if there's some red flags here.

3436
02:34:09,160 --> 02:34:11,840
Speaker 2: Adam says, they're beefing up the defense. I love it,

3437
02:34:12,040 --> 02:34:14,320
Speaker 2: bringing it back to the beginning of the early two

3438
02:34:14,400 --> 02:34:17,040
Speaker 2: thousands when the Super Bowls were won on the back

3439
02:34:17,080 --> 02:34:19,760
Speaker 2: of the defense, before they knew who Brady would become.

3440
02:34:20,120 --> 02:34:21,520
Speaker 2: Great show fellas, keep.

3441
02:34:21,400 --> 02:34:21,800
Speaker 6: It up off.

3442
02:34:22,040 --> 02:34:24,480
Speaker 8: They're bringing it back to the early two thousand run.

3443
02:34:25,000 --> 02:34:26,840
Speaker 8: The game has not changed it all since then.

3444
02:34:26,959 --> 02:34:34,000
Speaker 6: Oh boy, Paul, you got the sarcasm, you got the

3445
02:34:34,280 --> 02:34:36,840
Speaker 6: alarm on there. It takes one since it.

3446
02:34:38,600 --> 02:34:41,440
Speaker 2: Let's see, John says, what was wrong with taking offensive

3447
02:34:41,480 --> 02:34:45,000
Speaker 2: tackle Broderick Jones with the fourteenth pick? Guess they want

3448
02:34:45,040 --> 02:34:46,879
Speaker 2: to get mac Jones killed again this year?

3449
02:34:47,640 --> 02:34:51,360
Speaker 8: Some football character another one? How much does he want it?

3450
02:34:51,480 --> 02:34:54,200
Speaker 6: Fred? They could have taken him. But are you unhappy

3451
02:34:54,240 --> 02:34:59,080
Speaker 6: that they took Christian Gonzales? Yeah, no, I'm not the

3452
02:34:59,240 --> 02:35:00,760
Speaker 6: other buyer Young, not exactly.

3453
02:35:01,560 --> 02:35:04,039
Speaker 8: No, I really thought the Tennessee version of Byron Young

3454
02:35:04,200 --> 02:35:08,400
Speaker 8: was better than the Actually, I like how the Byron

3455
02:35:09,320 --> 02:35:11,680
Speaker 8: I didn't love. I didn't mind either, Brian yet Bottom

3456
02:35:11,879 --> 02:35:14,600
Speaker 8: Cameron Young though not a Cameron young guy.

3457
02:35:16,520 --> 02:35:20,320
Speaker 2: Robin San Diego via Connecticut. Is the dread beginning to

3458
02:35:20,440 --> 02:35:23,600
Speaker 2: set in over the fact that Juju and Kasiki might

3459
02:35:23,680 --> 02:35:26,840
Speaker 2: have been the offensive moves. Are there any receivers left

3460
02:35:26,879 --> 02:35:29,640
Speaker 2: that move the needle? And if not, what does that mean?

3461
02:35:30,200 --> 02:35:33,200
Speaker 8: I am disappointed in uh if this is how it

3462
02:35:33,320 --> 02:35:36,640
Speaker 8: goes and we get what was it the twenty twenty

3463
02:35:36,760 --> 02:35:38,440
Speaker 8: draft where they came out and they said, well, we

3464
02:35:38,520 --> 02:35:40,640
Speaker 8: traded a second for some new and we drafted Harry

3465
02:35:40,720 --> 02:35:43,320
Speaker 8: in the first round, So we passed on receiver all

3466
02:35:43,360 --> 02:35:45,240
Speaker 8: the way to Trey Nixon in the sixth or seventh

3467
02:35:45,360 --> 02:35:48,360
Speaker 8: round or whatever. If that's if that's what we do

3468
02:35:49,000 --> 02:35:51,480
Speaker 8: this year, then I'm going to be disappointed in Macro

3469
02:35:51,680 --> 02:35:54,840
Speaker 8: because I feel like Macro gets the receiver market. He

3470
02:35:55,240 --> 02:35:57,120
Speaker 8: every time we talked to him, it sounds like he

3471
02:35:57,320 --> 02:36:00,280
Speaker 8: understands that these are now premium players that you have

3472
02:36:00,400 --> 02:36:02,840
Speaker 8: to invest real capital in to go and get. And

3473
02:36:03,320 --> 02:36:05,680
Speaker 8: I like Juju Smith Schuster. I pounded the table for

3474
02:36:05,760 --> 02:36:08,840
Speaker 8: him when they signed him. But that's that's not real capital.

3475
02:36:08,920 --> 02:36:11,959
Speaker 8: Come on, that's that's the middle of the road receiver contract.

3476
02:36:12,080 --> 02:36:14,400
Speaker 8: That's not that's not paying a guy twenty five million

3477
02:36:14,440 --> 02:36:17,640
Speaker 8: dollars a year. It's it's wide receiver to money in

3478
02:36:17,680 --> 02:36:20,400
Speaker 8: today's NFL. And they didn't take one in the top

3479
02:36:20,440 --> 02:36:22,280
Speaker 8: one hundred. Let's see if they do now. But if

3480
02:36:22,280 --> 02:36:24,840
Speaker 8: they don't, then that's the second guest to me.

3481
02:36:24,879 --> 02:36:28,039
Speaker 2: But if they take nine receivers tomorrow, I.

3482
02:36:28,280 --> 02:36:30,160
Speaker 6: Hopefully they find one of those nine that.

3483
02:36:30,640 --> 02:36:31,200
Speaker 2: I mean, they just.

3484
02:36:32,800 --> 02:36:33,520
Speaker 6: Want to get crazy.

3485
02:36:33,680 --> 02:36:34,480
Speaker 2: Let's get crazy.

3486
02:36:34,560 --> 02:36:38,800
Speaker 8: To be fair, I wouldn't totally rule out like a

3487
02:36:39,160 --> 02:36:41,760
Speaker 8: Day three double dip at receiver on two guys that

3488
02:36:42,160 --> 02:36:44,560
Speaker 8: they like. But in this class, that's just not a

3489
02:36:44,640 --> 02:36:48,080
Speaker 8: great receiver class. And they take Charlie Jones and and

3490
02:36:48,360 --> 02:36:51,600
Speaker 8: you know somebody, Bryce Ford, we in your guy? Then like, okay,

3491
02:36:51,680 --> 02:36:53,600
Speaker 8: Then at least they got some guys in the building

3492
02:36:53,720 --> 02:36:57,480
Speaker 8: that we we can say have some potential to play

3493
02:36:58,000 --> 02:37:00,000
Speaker 8: a starter roll down the line for the Patriot.

3494
02:37:00,120 --> 02:37:02,959
Speaker 6: It's that. That's that's a I'm at the bare minimum

3495
02:37:03,080 --> 02:37:03,760
Speaker 6: at this point with.

3496
02:37:03,840 --> 02:37:06,680
Speaker 2: That, Todd says, I'm preparing myself for bill a draft

3497
02:37:06,760 --> 02:37:09,160
Speaker 2: six more defensive players and two running backs just to

3498
02:37:09,240 --> 02:37:10,520
Speaker 2: make everyone's head explode.

3499
02:37:10,840 --> 02:37:11,520
Speaker 6: I don't say that.

3500
02:37:11,800 --> 02:37:14,000
Speaker 2: Wow, what people just turned huh?

3501
02:37:14,160 --> 02:37:15,960
Speaker 6: It is funny, and I was just thinking back to

3502
02:37:16,080 --> 02:37:19,840
Speaker 6: like the old days. It's the trade. Like I think

3503
02:37:19,879 --> 02:37:22,440
Speaker 6: everybody saw the move last night as setting up the

3504
02:37:22,520 --> 02:37:25,800
Speaker 6: ability to get up and get an extra second. You

3505
02:37:26,320 --> 02:37:31,080
Speaker 6: get some extra thirds or now you're like, well if

3506
02:37:31,120 --> 02:37:33,200
Speaker 6: you move up and make a trade, now you're getting

3507
02:37:33,200 --> 02:37:36,280
Speaker 6: a guy who might project to be a contributing player. Yeah,

3508
02:37:36,520 --> 02:37:38,400
Speaker 6: like you're not, Like, I'm not telling you that. Like

3509
02:37:38,480 --> 02:37:40,720
Speaker 6: I'm on Saint Brown was what like a fourth or

3510
02:37:40,760 --> 02:37:44,080
Speaker 6: fifth round pick. I'm not telling you that that never happens.

3511
02:37:44,760 --> 02:37:47,000
Speaker 6: But you're going to draft a wide receiver now and

3512
02:37:47,160 --> 02:37:49,160
Speaker 6: say plug him in. He's going to be like the

3513
02:37:49,480 --> 02:37:52,480
Speaker 6: the two. You know, he's going to catch eighty balls

3514
02:37:52,520 --> 02:37:53,480
Speaker 6: for you. No, it's nothing.

3515
02:37:53,560 --> 02:37:55,320
Speaker 7: I mean not expecting that at the point. This is

3516
02:37:55,320 --> 02:37:56,080
Speaker 7: a third round pick.

3517
02:37:56,200 --> 02:37:57,800
Speaker 8: The only guy that I think that can do that

3518
02:37:58,000 --> 02:38:00,280
Speaker 8: is Downs. But I think clearly there's something that league

3519
02:38:00,320 --> 02:38:03,039
Speaker 8: knows about Downs that we don't know, and we'll find out.

3520
02:38:03,120 --> 02:38:05,160
Speaker 8: You know, we found out about Darnell Washington, so we'll

3521
02:38:05,160 --> 02:38:05,520
Speaker 8: find out.

3522
02:38:05,680 --> 02:38:07,360
Speaker 7: I would say at this point, like the best I

3523
02:38:07,400 --> 02:38:09,080
Speaker 7: don't want to say best case scenario, but the most

3524
02:38:09,200 --> 02:38:12,520
Speaker 7: likely scenario is that you're getting a developmental tackle. You're

3525
02:38:12,560 --> 02:38:14,800
Speaker 7: getting a third tight end who's going to develop and

3526
02:38:15,080 --> 02:38:17,200
Speaker 7: maybe you know, contribute next year. To start, You're going

3527
02:38:17,240 --> 02:38:20,080
Speaker 7: to get us an undersized slot receiver who maybe your

3528
02:38:20,120 --> 02:38:22,480
Speaker 7: fifth receiver this year and maybe gets on the field.

3529
02:38:22,560 --> 02:38:25,040
Speaker 7: Maybe you know, a lot of maybe and and and

3530
02:38:25,160 --> 02:38:28,720
Speaker 7: a lot of like and then shots on safety, you know,

3531
02:38:29,120 --> 02:38:30,360
Speaker 7: interior offensive line.

3532
02:38:30,440 --> 02:38:33,280
Speaker 6: I mean, there's there's not a lot to get excited about.

3533
02:38:33,280 --> 02:38:34,840
Speaker 7: Maybe there's a running back out there that that you

3534
02:38:34,879 --> 02:38:36,760
Speaker 7: could say, hey, maybe this guy can contribute, if you

3535
02:38:36,800 --> 02:38:37,920
Speaker 7: could beat out Time Montgomery.

3536
02:38:37,959 --> 02:38:39,920
Speaker 6: But but you're not. At this point in the draft.

3537
02:38:40,000 --> 02:38:41,560
Speaker 7: It's hard to say any of these guys that they

3538
02:38:41,600 --> 02:38:44,720
Speaker 7: select are going to be true impact players at this time.

3539
02:38:44,879 --> 02:38:47,440
Speaker 8: I do think there are some tackles that that could

3540
02:38:47,680 --> 02:38:50,480
Speaker 8: I think Dwan Jones, whatever reason he's falling, to me,

3541
02:38:50,600 --> 02:38:52,800
Speaker 8: he is a Patriot right tackle, like he could start

3542
02:38:52,840 --> 02:38:55,400
Speaker 8: at right tackle for them as a rookie. I'm sure

3543
02:38:55,440 --> 02:38:58,080
Speaker 8: they like Blake Friedland, He's too much their type. Wanya

3544
02:38:58,160 --> 02:39:01,400
Speaker 8: Morris from Oklahoma, Nick aw the Vary from Old Dominion.

3545
02:39:01,480 --> 02:39:05,200
Speaker 8: I think those tackles have a chance to be a

3546
02:39:05,240 --> 02:39:07,920
Speaker 8: double dip situation. Maybe that's something I've thrown out, you know,

3547
02:39:08,080 --> 02:39:10,240
Speaker 8: third and fourth round double dip on tackle like they

3548
02:39:10,320 --> 02:39:13,040
Speaker 8: did on corner last year, and maybe they hit on

3549
02:39:13,160 --> 02:39:15,440
Speaker 8: one of the two guys, or if you get really lucky,

3550
02:39:15,480 --> 02:39:18,800
Speaker 8: you hit on both. I still think tackle has some

3551
02:39:18,920 --> 02:39:20,400
Speaker 8: guys in here that that can play.

3552
02:39:21,120 --> 02:39:23,920
Speaker 2: Paul and Arkansas says, I think Keon is a decently

3553
02:39:24,120 --> 02:39:27,119
Speaker 2: fine pick. I just saw that he had the fifteenth

3554
02:39:27,240 --> 02:39:30,840
Speaker 2: highest RAS for a defensive tackle dating back to nineteen

3555
02:39:30,920 --> 02:39:31,480
Speaker 2: eighty seven.

3556
02:39:31,720 --> 02:39:33,920
Speaker 8: What's ris relative athletic score?

3557
02:39:34,160 --> 02:39:37,560
Speaker 2: Okay, Oush may or may not be here past this year,

3558
02:39:37,720 --> 02:39:40,160
Speaker 2: and cup midway through the season. I predict Kean will

3559
02:39:40,200 --> 02:39:42,120
Speaker 2: be starting over Usha.

3560
02:39:44,160 --> 02:39:46,119
Speaker 6: That wouldn't be much. It's not the same.

3561
02:39:46,160 --> 02:39:48,600
Speaker 2: Playoff six foot five, two hundred and eighty pounds and

3562
02:39:48,680 --> 02:39:49,959
Speaker 2: runs a four to seven forty.

3563
02:39:50,040 --> 02:39:50,440
Speaker 6: Not bad.

3564
02:39:50,560 --> 02:39:52,160
Speaker 2: Let's see what we do in the next round.

3565
02:39:52,560 --> 02:39:55,560
Speaker 6: He also might start over Marcus Jones. That's here's the thing.

3566
02:39:56,680 --> 02:39:57,880
Speaker 6: They don't play the same position.

3567
02:39:58,000 --> 02:40:00,720
Speaker 8: Thank you, Yes, okay, they don't play the same position,

3568
02:40:00,879 --> 02:40:03,879
Speaker 8: So don't If that's how they're going to sell the pick,

3569
02:40:03,920 --> 02:40:05,480
Speaker 8: and I'm not saying they are, but if that's how

3570
02:40:05,560 --> 02:40:07,520
Speaker 8: we are going to sell the pick, is that they're

3571
02:40:07,600 --> 02:40:10,360
Speaker 8: drafting Keon White to replace josh U j when they

3572
02:40:10,400 --> 02:40:11,320
Speaker 8: don't pay Joshua.

3573
02:40:11,560 --> 02:40:12,879
Speaker 6: They didn't get that type of guy.

3574
02:40:13,000 --> 02:40:15,240
Speaker 7: No, I mean, and honestly, I'm just I'm just putting

3575
02:40:15,240 --> 02:40:16,880
Speaker 7: this out there. I'm not saying I believe it will

3576
02:40:16,920 --> 02:40:19,240
Speaker 7: happen because we've seen nothing from this guy. But it

3577
02:40:19,280 --> 02:40:21,360
Speaker 7: seems more likely to me that if were to walk

3578
02:40:21,400 --> 02:40:23,440
Speaker 7: that maybe there's a chance that they believe Ronnie Perkins

3579
02:40:23,520 --> 02:40:26,640
Speaker 7: could just come in and be that passbrusher guy. I'm

3580
02:40:26,680 --> 02:40:29,080
Speaker 7: not expecting anything out of him. He's been a total whiff,

3581
02:40:29,640 --> 02:40:32,200
Speaker 7: but he's that kind of guy. That's what that's so much.

3582
02:40:33,320 --> 02:40:34,880
Speaker 7: That's why I did. He can't even get a round,

3583
02:40:34,920 --> 02:40:37,400
Speaker 7: he can't get a Repid training camp, but they must

3584
02:40:37,440 --> 02:40:38,280
Speaker 7: have saw something in them.

3585
02:40:39,160 --> 02:40:46,039
Speaker 2: Fred and Limington Maine Way watch every Bruin's playoff game

3586
02:40:46,120 --> 02:40:46,600
Speaker 2: with Paul.

3587
02:40:47,959 --> 02:40:49,879
Speaker 6: It's weird watching the same.

3588
02:40:51,400 --> 02:40:54,840
Speaker 2: Fred and Limington made way too much overreacting after only

3589
02:40:54,920 --> 02:40:58,560
Speaker 2: two picks, one of which was tremendous. Last year, the

3590
02:40:58,600 --> 02:41:00,960
Speaker 2: Patriots got solid Country abus Is from the third and

3591
02:41:01,040 --> 02:41:01,880
Speaker 2: fourth round picks.

3592
02:41:01,959 --> 02:41:05,200
Speaker 8: Wait and relax, Okay, I'm relaxed.

3593
02:41:05,240 --> 02:41:07,560
Speaker 6: I'm relaxed to the Raders draft the other Byron Young.

3594
02:41:07,720 --> 02:41:10,360
Speaker 6: I want to be Love the Other Byron The Other

3595
02:41:10,400 --> 02:41:12,440
Speaker 6: Byron Young. I like both Byron Young's.

3596
02:41:12,480 --> 02:41:14,560
Speaker 2: But I really like that.

3597
02:41:16,879 --> 02:41:20,080
Speaker 8: Tennessee Byron Alabama. Yeah, Alabama Byron Young.

3598
02:41:20,160 --> 02:41:25,000
Speaker 2: That's old Byron stan and trust Stanton Shrewsbury last night

3599
02:41:25,160 --> 02:41:29,160
Speaker 2: was universally lauded. Tonight, Bill Belichick has return to an old,

3600
02:41:29,280 --> 02:41:33,119
Speaker 2: ineffectual coach. Media and fans are so much more knowledgeable

3601
02:41:33,200 --> 02:41:37,240
Speaker 2: than Bill. So tiresome, I'll stick with Bill. There you

3602
02:41:37,360 --> 02:41:38,840
Speaker 2: go for me.

3603
02:41:39,840 --> 02:41:42,920
Speaker 6: He turned on you. They're trying to poke me. Yeah, okay.

3604
02:41:45,440 --> 02:41:48,760
Speaker 2: Zach in Springfield says there was a report that Dion

3605
02:41:48,879 --> 02:41:54,119
Speaker 2: White is keon Sorry White, Yeah, I'd like to pick

3606
02:41:55,280 --> 02:41:58,200
Speaker 2: I like the other. D There was a report that

3607
02:41:58,280 --> 02:42:00,640
Speaker 2: White is planning to open his own bowling alley to

3608
02:42:00,720 --> 02:42:02,120
Speaker 2: become financially secure.

3609
02:42:02,640 --> 02:42:05,400
Speaker 6: Cool. Oh, I have no problem with any of that stuff.

3610
02:42:05,520 --> 02:42:08,560
Speaker 6: Like a kid, I like, people wouldn't hold that. I

3611
02:42:08,560 --> 02:42:11,560
Speaker 6: wouldn't hold any of that interests. And when I mean,

3612
02:42:11,760 --> 02:42:13,600
Speaker 6: you know, you gotta do the Gronk right. Gronk like

3613
02:42:13,720 --> 02:42:16,360
Speaker 6: lived off of his endorsements and just what banked all

3614
02:42:16,440 --> 02:42:17,520
Speaker 6: of his NFL salary.

3615
02:42:17,640 --> 02:42:20,520
Speaker 8: Like I just want to keep reiterating my take because

3616
02:42:20,520 --> 02:42:22,240
Speaker 8: I feel like people think I might have to do that,

3617
02:42:22,280 --> 02:42:23,680
Speaker 8: but you have to do it. I have to keep

3618
02:42:23,720 --> 02:42:26,320
Speaker 8: reiterating it. I think Kean White is a fine player.

3619
02:42:26,720 --> 02:42:27,039
Speaker 6: I don't.

3620
02:42:27,280 --> 02:42:30,200
Speaker 8: I don't get excited about Keon White. That's just me personally.

3621
02:42:30,560 --> 02:42:32,480
Speaker 8: I think he can play a role on this defense.

3622
02:42:32,480 --> 02:42:34,320
Speaker 8: I think he fits the defense, and I think he

3623
02:42:34,360 --> 02:42:36,800
Speaker 8: can play a role on the defense. But I was

3624
02:42:37,120 --> 02:42:40,840
Speaker 8: elated about Christian Gonzalez yesterday and this just doesn't This

3625
02:42:41,000 --> 02:42:42,760
Speaker 8: doesn't do it for me. I don't get all warm

3626
02:42:42,800 --> 02:42:44,119
Speaker 8: and fuzzy inside, that's all.

3627
02:42:44,200 --> 02:42:45,800
Speaker 7: And I would say I feel some I mean, we

3628
02:42:45,840 --> 02:42:47,959
Speaker 7: said it before they picked him, you know, I said

3629
02:42:48,000 --> 02:42:50,119
Speaker 7: exactly that we saw. Somebody said he looks like a fit.

3630
02:42:50,160 --> 02:42:50,560
Speaker 6: I watched it.

3631
02:42:50,640 --> 02:42:53,160
Speaker 7: I didn't really see, you know, a great fit. I'll

3632
02:42:53,240 --> 02:42:55,080
Speaker 7: just say this put my fan hat on. I love

3633
02:42:55,120 --> 02:42:57,760
Speaker 7: the defense. I love watching defensive football. There's a small

3634
02:42:57,800 --> 02:42:59,680
Speaker 7: part of me that's always going to be intrigued by

3635
02:42:59,720 --> 02:43:01,640
Speaker 7: a guy that has these kind of traits to see,

3636
02:43:01,720 --> 02:43:03,840
Speaker 7: you know, how potentially might work out. I don't know

3637
02:43:03,920 --> 02:43:06,280
Speaker 7: that it will. I definitely feel somewhat like a little

3638
02:43:06,280 --> 02:43:09,240
Speaker 7: bit underwhelmed, and I feel like the circus is or

3639
02:43:09,280 --> 02:43:11,000
Speaker 7: the parade is passing us by someone.

3640
02:43:11,400 --> 02:43:12,600
Speaker 2: It's nine three.

3641
02:43:13,160 --> 02:43:14,040
Speaker 6: Do you know where your child?

3642
02:43:14,160 --> 02:43:17,360
Speaker 2: The Cardinals pick is in at U seventy two.

3643
02:43:17,680 --> 02:43:20,320
Speaker 8: The Giants are on the clock. They traded up the Giants.

3644
02:43:20,720 --> 02:43:23,760
Speaker 6: The Rams are like trading out of all their picks.

3645
02:43:23,840 --> 02:43:25,400
Speaker 6: I think they're kind of back in that f the

3646
02:43:25,480 --> 02:43:28,000
Speaker 6: picks face because it seems like they're trading Donald. Well.

3647
02:43:28,040 --> 02:43:31,080
Speaker 8: There there were definitely teams that felt like this draft

3648
02:43:31,440 --> 02:43:32,360
Speaker 8: sticky poo poo, And.

3649
02:43:32,360 --> 02:43:34,200
Speaker 2: Then can I finish what I was gonna say? Sorry,

3650
02:43:34,760 --> 02:43:37,080
Speaker 2: the Patriots are at thirteen. So what we'll do here?

3651
02:43:37,240 --> 02:43:40,240
Speaker 2: And are you listening, Matt Lapan and Matt Morrell. We'll

3652
02:43:40,280 --> 02:43:42,760
Speaker 2: stay on the air until the Patriots make their pick.

3653
02:43:43,640 --> 02:43:44,920
Speaker 2: It might come a little after.

3654
02:43:45,560 --> 02:43:48,280
Speaker 6: It's not in my pay grade. The Bruins game is

3655
02:43:48,360 --> 02:43:49,440
Speaker 6: going down the stretch.

3656
02:43:50,040 --> 02:43:52,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I I it seems silly to go off there.

3657
02:43:53,120 --> 02:43:55,160
Speaker 6: Absolutely, we do it. We do whatever year.

3658
02:43:55,320 --> 02:43:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll stay. We'll stay with you until.

3659
02:43:57,680 --> 02:44:00,560
Speaker 6: We're gonna make a trade. Oh boy, you can grade down.

3660
02:44:00,680 --> 02:44:03,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I could see them trading back up into

3661
02:44:03,400 --> 02:44:04,800
Speaker 8: the third round and drafting two guys.

3662
02:44:05,320 --> 02:44:07,440
Speaker 6: They're gonna trade the third round pick for seven fourths

3663
02:44:07,440 --> 02:44:09,440
Speaker 6: and they're gonna just have the entire fourth round.

3664
02:44:09,520 --> 02:44:11,760
Speaker 8: I could see them trading two fourth round picks to

3665
02:44:11,800 --> 02:44:13,440
Speaker 8: get back up the night and draft two guys.

3666
02:44:13,480 --> 02:44:14,120
Speaker 6: I hope that they do.

3667
02:44:14,320 --> 02:44:16,040
Speaker 7: I mean, and that's you know, we talked so much

3668
02:44:16,040 --> 02:44:18,000
Speaker 7: about this draft, and that was a big thing for me,

3669
02:44:18,200 --> 02:44:20,039
Speaker 7: was you've got all these fourth round picks. Last night

3670
02:44:20,080 --> 02:44:23,640
Speaker 7: they got another one, get you know, a handful of

3671
02:44:23,760 --> 02:44:26,160
Speaker 7: top fifty sixty picks. You know, don't just end up

3672
02:44:26,200 --> 02:44:30,800
Speaker 7: with Gonzales. Love it, great question, defensive end front guy.

3673
02:44:31,000 --> 02:44:33,360
Speaker 7: Like I just I feel like they're one or two

3674
02:44:33,400 --> 02:44:35,120
Speaker 7: picks away. They could get two more picks in this

3675
02:44:35,240 --> 02:44:36,440
Speaker 7: round and get fill some needs.

3676
02:44:36,480 --> 02:44:39,480
Speaker 2: Then you like Phil Perry here, right, Yeah, love love Phil.

3677
02:44:39,640 --> 02:44:40,320
Speaker 2: Love Phil Perry.

3678
02:44:40,440 --> 02:44:42,760
Speaker 6: He's a really good musician, Phil Perry says.

3679
02:44:42,800 --> 02:44:47,080
Speaker 2: According to at Football Underscore Ciss Big Board, the Patriots

3680
02:44:47,120 --> 02:44:50,400
Speaker 2: now have the number eight player in the draft, Christian

3681
02:44:50,440 --> 02:44:54,640
Speaker 2: Gonzalez in number twenty nine Keon White. At Move the

3682
02:44:54,720 --> 02:44:57,600
Speaker 2: Sticks had Gonzalez as his number ten. White was his

3683
02:44:57,720 --> 02:45:02,440
Speaker 2: number twenty eight. Both prototypical Patriots, both physical specimens, both

3684
02:45:02,760 --> 02:45:03,680
Speaker 2: scheme fits.

3685
02:45:04,879 --> 02:45:08,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's yeah, that's Phil PERI don't touch hockey.

3686
02:45:08,400 --> 02:45:10,920
Speaker 6: Jesus sorry, I don't know about the rankings, but the

3687
02:45:11,000 --> 02:45:13,039
Speaker 6: descriptions are fair. I would say, right, I do, and.

3688
02:45:13,280 --> 02:45:15,880
Speaker 7: Like to this point, like you just can't retroactively do it. Look,

3689
02:45:15,920 --> 02:45:17,920
Speaker 7: they got these guys, let's see how they play, Like,

3690
02:45:18,080 --> 02:45:20,360
Speaker 7: you know, like we can talk about this guy had

3691
02:45:20,400 --> 02:45:21,920
Speaker 7: him as the number one player in the whole league.

3692
02:45:22,000 --> 02:45:24,520
Speaker 6: So like, you know, I'm gonna argue against the other

3693
02:45:24,640 --> 02:45:28,160
Speaker 6: thing that you know, the whole like antiquated ty Warren

3694
02:45:28,360 --> 02:45:31,840
Speaker 6: comp Well, he's about twenty pounds lighter than Taiwan at least. Yeah,

3695
02:45:31,840 --> 02:45:34,200
Speaker 6: maybe he's that much faster and quicker, and he's not

3696
02:45:34,920 --> 02:45:38,080
Speaker 6: like this throwback to the early two thousands player. Yeah,

3697
02:45:38,240 --> 02:45:40,119
Speaker 6: you know, and we'll see that when.

3698
02:45:39,959 --> 02:45:43,720
Speaker 8: We There's absolutely no doubt that he is a scheme fit,

3699
02:45:44,120 --> 02:45:46,680
Speaker 8: and there's no doubt that he can play a role

3700
02:45:46,720 --> 02:45:47,440
Speaker 8: in this defense.

3701
02:45:47,600 --> 02:45:48,680
Speaker 2: You just don't like the scheme.

3702
02:45:49,120 --> 02:45:52,480
Speaker 8: I No, I'm just not crazy about the player. It's

3703
02:45:52,560 --> 02:45:54,039
Speaker 8: not one of my guys in this draft.

3704
02:45:54,120 --> 02:45:54,400
Speaker 6: That's it.

3705
02:45:54,520 --> 02:45:57,920
Speaker 8: And maybe I'm wrong, and maybe I hope, I hope

3706
02:45:57,959 --> 02:45:59,600
Speaker 8: I'm wrong. I hope that they end up being right

3707
02:45:59,680 --> 02:46:02,400
Speaker 8: and he I think he's gonna be a fine player.

3708
02:46:02,840 --> 02:46:06,560
Speaker 8: I personally feel like they have enough. Fine, I'm looking for.

3709
02:46:06,600 --> 02:46:08,000
Speaker 2: A little bit, but you're not gonna get that.

3710
02:46:08,440 --> 02:46:09,960
Speaker 8: I think you could have gotten it with some of

3711
02:46:10,000 --> 02:46:14,240
Speaker 8: those guys. Yeah, maybe not. It's not like a guarantee.

3712
02:46:14,280 --> 02:46:16,280
Speaker 8: Nothing as a guarantee. Yeah, but I think some of

3713
02:46:16,360 --> 02:46:18,680
Speaker 8: these other guys that went, like in the eight to

3714
02:46:18,800 --> 02:46:21,720
Speaker 8: ten picks before them, had the upside to maybe be

3715
02:46:21,840 --> 02:46:25,160
Speaker 8: more than fine. I think Keon White, you ended up

3716
02:46:25,200 --> 02:46:27,840
Speaker 8: with the guy that probably has the highest floor but

3717
02:46:28,160 --> 02:46:29,560
Speaker 8: has probably the lowest ceiling.

3718
02:46:29,879 --> 02:46:32,320
Speaker 2: Ke On White. This is Caleb and Knotsville has the

3719
02:46:32,400 --> 02:46:34,760
Speaker 2: frame to be a game wrecker. I don't know about

3720
02:46:34,840 --> 02:46:37,400
Speaker 2: explosive this, and I just learned this guy existed an

3721
02:46:37,440 --> 02:46:40,760
Speaker 2: hour ago. Let's not overreact. It's not a flashy pick,

3722
02:46:40,840 --> 02:46:42,560
Speaker 2: but he might be a contributor soon.

3723
02:46:44,400 --> 02:46:46,520
Speaker 7: I don't I mean, I don't totally rule it out.

3724
02:46:46,640 --> 02:46:49,160
Speaker 7: I mean, it's just you never know what's gonna happen.

3725
02:46:49,240 --> 02:46:52,320
Speaker 7: I mean, I hear everything everybody's saying, but at the

3726
02:46:52,400 --> 02:46:54,600
Speaker 7: same time, I just right now, for me, the focus

3727
02:46:54,720 --> 02:46:57,160
Speaker 7: is getting an offensive player. And then these next few

3728
02:46:57,200 --> 02:47:01,120
Speaker 7: picks and kind of getting back on track, and Hyatt

3729
02:47:01,120 --> 02:47:02,320
Speaker 7: went to the Giants by the way.

3730
02:47:02,280 --> 02:47:12,440
Speaker 6: Oh good, let's go. Oh no, okay, as long sixteen minutes. Way.

3731
02:47:12,520 --> 02:47:14,560
Speaker 6: Wait a second, Wait a second. Did the guy that

3732
02:47:14,760 --> 02:47:17,280
Speaker 6: can't score goals score again? Oh?

3733
02:47:17,440 --> 02:47:17,880
Speaker 2: My good?

3734
02:47:18,400 --> 02:47:21,280
Speaker 6: I don't think so. I think this was macab he

3735
02:47:21,400 --> 02:47:24,360
Speaker 6: went down the line first it was I thought it

3736
02:47:24,440 --> 02:47:27,720
Speaker 6: was macim Oh, yeah, but I didn't. This was an

3737
02:47:27,720 --> 02:47:30,360
Speaker 6: empty net though. And again, I think you can saying

3738
02:47:30,440 --> 02:47:32,880
Speaker 6: that if you keep saying that. But no one ever

3739
02:47:32,959 --> 02:47:35,600
Speaker 6: said that a guy with sixty scoring goals. I I

3740
02:47:35,800 --> 02:47:40,600
Speaker 6: hadn't heard that. I heard, actually the criticism does. I

3741
02:47:40,760 --> 02:47:44,640
Speaker 6: heard that he disappeared in this series and he's got

3742
02:47:44,680 --> 02:47:45,160
Speaker 6: two goals.

3743
02:47:45,200 --> 02:47:47,879
Speaker 7: I don't have any use for players who yeah, suddenly,

3744
02:47:47,959 --> 02:47:49,400
Speaker 7: all you have to do is have one good game

3745
02:47:49,480 --> 02:47:50,720
Speaker 7: and that you know when that.

3746
02:47:52,760 --> 02:47:54,360
Speaker 6: Is to get you over the hump to close out

3747
02:47:54,400 --> 02:47:56,959
Speaker 6: the series. I'm good with it. It's the JD. Drew baby,

3748
02:47:57,200 --> 02:47:59,560
Speaker 6: I'm all right, Okay, that says a lot about you.

3749
02:48:01,360 --> 02:48:05,119
Speaker 6: A good play. I like because he had one draft.

3750
02:48:05,320 --> 02:48:07,840
Speaker 2: I think I always thought pastern was pretty good.

3751
02:48:07,840 --> 02:48:10,360
Speaker 6: I do. I mean, I think I think you out.

3752
02:48:11,040 --> 02:48:13,720
Speaker 6: I know a lot of people have them. You gotta

3753
02:48:13,760 --> 02:48:15,440
Speaker 6: have some guys that just scored just nine and a

3754
02:48:15,480 --> 02:48:17,960
Speaker 6: half million doesn't buy you what it used to. Come on.

3755
02:48:18,520 --> 02:48:21,600
Speaker 2: Uh, so the Browns pick is in. We don't know

3756
02:48:21,640 --> 02:48:25,400
Speaker 2: who it is yet, let's find out they are eleven.

3757
02:48:25,600 --> 02:48:29,600
Speaker 2: Patriots are sitting at thirteen. So we're getting close to

3758
02:48:29,720 --> 02:48:30,520
Speaker 2: the Patriots pick.

3759
02:48:30,640 --> 02:48:33,040
Speaker 6: We're on the not you like in the hole you

3760
02:48:33,120 --> 02:48:36,160
Speaker 6: were on deck? Yeah, okay, we're actually on deck.

3761
02:48:36,240 --> 02:48:36,400
Speaker 14: Yeah.

3762
02:48:36,400 --> 02:48:39,360
Speaker 8: Atlanta is on the clock because Cleveland already made the pick.

3763
02:48:39,520 --> 02:48:41,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're on deck.

3764
02:48:41,400 --> 02:48:43,240
Speaker 6: Who'd the Lands take? I don't know they said.

3765
02:48:43,360 --> 02:48:45,600
Speaker 8: People are saying good pick by the Browns, but not

3766
02:48:45,680 --> 02:48:47,439
Speaker 8: actually telling me who the freaking.

3767
02:48:47,200 --> 02:48:48,039
Speaker 6: Brown Browns took.

3768
02:48:48,120 --> 02:48:52,440
Speaker 7: Cedric Tillman, Wow, that the Tennessee guys go back to back.

3769
02:48:52,520 --> 02:48:55,039
Speaker 7: I'll take my ball and go ahead, I'll take.

3770
02:48:55,080 --> 02:48:59,760
Speaker 6: My I wanted them. I don't get quite as excited

3771
02:48:59,760 --> 02:49:02,000
Speaker 6: about you guys. Do what I kind of want. Tucker

3772
02:49:02,080 --> 02:49:05,640
Speaker 6: Craft is still there, Tucker Craft. Tucker Craft would Okay,

3773
02:49:05,720 --> 02:49:05,920
Speaker 6: so we.

3774
02:49:06,160 --> 02:49:08,000
Speaker 2: Got we're on deck. Who who do you want?

3775
02:49:08,400 --> 02:49:13,080
Speaker 6: I honestly, who do you want with this? Posh Downs, Crash, Downs,

3776
02:49:13,680 --> 02:49:14,320
Speaker 6: Crafter Downs.

3777
02:49:14,320 --> 02:49:15,080
Speaker 2: You gotta take Craft.

3778
02:49:15,120 --> 02:49:17,959
Speaker 6: I would also take Washington. I'm fine with Downs now

3779
02:49:18,600 --> 02:49:21,560
Speaker 6: now I would also would Washington.

3780
02:49:21,680 --> 02:49:25,640
Speaker 8: Now you know that's the guy if he if he

3781
02:49:25,680 --> 02:49:28,240
Speaker 8: has one contract in those knees, I'm it's worth it

3782
02:49:28,320 --> 02:49:29,959
Speaker 8: at this point, especially in this class.

3783
02:49:29,959 --> 02:49:31,120
Speaker 6: I mean you definitely feel this is.

3784
02:49:32,720 --> 02:49:35,720
Speaker 8: Going to get the hattie. Oh come on, Oh that

3785
02:49:35,760 --> 02:49:36,680
Speaker 8: would have been the best.

3786
02:49:37,320 --> 02:49:42,800
Speaker 6: Uh was I gonna say? Oh what I'll tell you,

3787
02:49:42,920 --> 02:49:45,840
Speaker 6: per capita per show. No one has sworn more in

3788
02:49:45,920 --> 02:49:48,920
Speaker 6: this program than Mike. I didn't score. Oh yeah, I

3789
02:49:49,040 --> 02:49:49,280
Speaker 6: just did.

3790
02:49:50,440 --> 02:49:51,320
Speaker 2: That's he said.

3791
02:49:51,480 --> 02:49:54,640
Speaker 6: Shoot, don't s h I t is not except he

3792
02:49:54,760 --> 02:49:57,959
Speaker 6: didn't say fudge. That's all right, that's all right, we'll

3793
02:49:57,959 --> 02:50:00,560
Speaker 6: see we're on the internet. We can would have the

3794
02:50:00,680 --> 02:50:04,320
Speaker 6: Patriots are on deck right now. Correct, the Patriots are

3795
02:50:04,360 --> 02:50:05,800
Speaker 6: on they're on the clock.

3796
02:50:06,040 --> 02:50:07,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think the Patriots are on the clock.

3797
02:50:09,680 --> 02:50:15,920
Speaker 2: So how about John Michael Schmidt's he already he already went, went.

3798
02:50:16,520 --> 02:50:19,960
Speaker 8: Is your b yu tackle still there? Baked him? I

3799
02:50:20,000 --> 02:50:23,279
Speaker 8: do yeah, good athlete, good senior bowl, Okay, senior.

3800
02:50:23,080 --> 02:50:27,600
Speaker 6: Bush and good. He was fine at we got you

3801
02:50:27,720 --> 02:50:28,480
Speaker 6: not really solid me.

3802
02:50:29,280 --> 02:50:31,320
Speaker 8: No, he's a he's a good I told you sposed

3803
02:50:31,320 --> 02:50:32,720
Speaker 8: to sell me on the I told you he's Nate

3804
02:50:32,800 --> 02:50:34,680
Speaker 8: sold her two point Oh. I know that like you

3805
02:50:34,760 --> 02:50:36,560
Speaker 8: guys that remember Nate sold her a little bit better

3806
02:50:36,640 --> 02:50:40,200
Speaker 8: than I do because he was a fine He's a fine,

3807
02:50:40,240 --> 02:50:43,960
Speaker 8: above average player. Yeah, I think Blake Freeland has got

3808
02:50:44,000 --> 02:50:44,640
Speaker 8: that kind of skills.

3809
02:50:45,400 --> 02:50:48,080
Speaker 6: That's it's more developmental, though. You're probably not plugging him

3810
02:50:48,080 --> 02:50:49,600
Speaker 6: in as a starter, right third round?

3811
02:50:50,480 --> 02:50:53,760
Speaker 8: Well, I would say yes and no because he is

3812
02:50:54,160 --> 02:50:56,640
Speaker 8: an older guy. H you know, b Yu, you know

3813
02:50:56,680 --> 02:50:59,200
Speaker 8: how that works. He's not quite like totally b Yu.

3814
02:50:59,280 --> 02:51:01,200
Speaker 8: I think he's like twenty three. He's not like a

3815
02:51:01,240 --> 02:51:03,119
Speaker 8: twenty five year old rookie like some of the guys

3816
02:51:03,120 --> 02:51:05,880
Speaker 8: out of by you are. But he's already kind of

3817
02:51:05,920 --> 02:51:07,400
Speaker 8: a finished guy. You know, He's made a lot of

3818
02:51:07,400 --> 02:51:10,280
Speaker 8: starts in college. He played at the Senior Bowl. I

3819
02:51:10,360 --> 02:51:12,800
Speaker 8: think that you're not really necessarily looking at it as

3820
02:51:12,879 --> 02:51:15,440
Speaker 8: a totally developmental pick.

3821
02:51:17,200 --> 02:51:20,119
Speaker 2: Falcons pick is in. Do we know who they pick?

3822
02:51:21,200 --> 02:51:22,240
Speaker 2: Any tips out there?

3823
02:51:22,480 --> 02:51:22,520
Speaker 11: No?

3824
02:51:22,680 --> 02:51:24,360
Speaker 6: But we four four?

3825
02:51:25,240 --> 02:51:27,760
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, my goodness, what's going on with this guy?

3826
02:51:27,840 --> 02:51:31,880
Speaker 6: Ye drums like an NBA game. I just lost my buzz. So, uh,

3827
02:51:32,920 --> 02:51:34,920
Speaker 6: it looks like the Patriots pick is out, and uh,

3828
02:51:35,080 --> 02:51:37,920
Speaker 6: I don't know who this guy is. Henry McKenna says

3829
02:51:37,959 --> 02:51:41,320
Speaker 6: the Patriots set to take linebacker Marty Mapho. Okay, I

3830
02:51:41,360 --> 02:51:41,760
Speaker 6: do know that.

3831
02:51:42,680 --> 02:51:45,760
Speaker 8: Uh not sucker, I'm gonna be honest with you. Not

3832
02:51:45,879 --> 02:51:47,760
Speaker 8: somebody that I did a whole lot of homework on.

3833
02:51:48,040 --> 02:51:50,200
Speaker 6: But I do know who he is. So there's that.

3834
02:51:50,560 --> 02:51:52,560
Speaker 6: That's all I can give you. Well, I'm just gonna

3835
02:51:52,720 --> 02:51:54,480
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna say this, and this is meant to

3836
02:51:54,520 --> 02:51:57,320
Speaker 6: be a compliment. If it's a guy that you hadn't

3837
02:51:57,360 --> 02:51:59,600
Speaker 6: heard of, we might as well all just pack up

3838
02:51:59,640 --> 02:52:02,400
Speaker 6: ship and home. He is somebody that I had heard of.

3839
02:52:02,840 --> 02:52:06,600
Speaker 8: He is somebody that has like you know, Niche Draft

3840
02:52:06,640 --> 02:52:09,840
Speaker 8: Twitter It kind of really likes Marty map Who a

3841
02:52:09,920 --> 02:52:13,200
Speaker 8: little bit. I honestly, I think that he's somebody that

3842
02:52:13,760 --> 02:52:16,080
Speaker 8: a lot of people are like, yeah, maybe he can

3843
02:52:16,120 --> 02:52:18,640
Speaker 8: play on defense, but like special teams might really be

3844
02:52:19,080 --> 02:52:20,720
Speaker 8: his home in the NFL.

3845
02:52:21,440 --> 02:52:22,880
Speaker 6: So this is an interesting pick.

3846
02:52:23,560 --> 02:52:26,680
Speaker 8: I think he's a pure inside linebacker from what I

3847
02:52:26,760 --> 02:52:30,920
Speaker 8: can remember of the pick, just to you know, kind

3848
02:52:30,959 --> 02:52:35,560
Speaker 8: of a Patriots typical type of guy. So, yeah, it's

3849
02:52:35,640 --> 02:52:37,080
Speaker 8: coming back to me a little bit now I'm reading

3850
02:52:37,080 --> 02:52:38,800
Speaker 8: his NFL dot Com yeah page.

3851
02:52:39,600 --> 02:52:42,199
Speaker 6: So he is somebody that was a safety.

3852
02:52:41,959 --> 02:52:44,439
Speaker 8: I think early on in college and now has converted

3853
02:52:44,840 --> 02:52:47,560
Speaker 8: to linebacker. He's only two hundred and seventeen pounds, so

3854
02:52:47,959 --> 02:52:52,280
Speaker 8: he's one of the defensively, I think you could hope

3855
02:52:52,560 --> 02:52:54,800
Speaker 8: that he would be one of those sort of box

3856
02:52:54,959 --> 02:52:59,360
Speaker 8: linebacker hybrid type of players, not necessarily somebody that I

3857
02:52:59,480 --> 02:53:04,480
Speaker 8: projected as being a real, a real contributor on defense.

3858
02:53:04,520 --> 02:53:05,120
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna lie.

3859
02:53:05,240 --> 02:53:07,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, the NFL dot Com had him fifth, sixth round.

3860
02:53:07,720 --> 02:53:10,320
Speaker 7: The Beast has him a little bit closer to what

3861
02:53:10,440 --> 02:53:14,039
Speaker 7: he is now third fourth round. But yeah, similar kind

3862
02:53:14,040 --> 02:53:16,440
Speaker 7: of thing. I mean, it's just it seems like another

3863
02:53:16,959 --> 02:53:19,840
Speaker 7: kind of big safety, right, Yeah, maybe a little.

3864
02:53:19,640 --> 02:53:22,959
Speaker 6: Bit a little bit taller he's Yeah, I mean, two

3865
02:53:23,040 --> 02:53:25,119
Speaker 6: hundred and seventeen pounds isn't even really a big.

3866
02:53:25,000 --> 02:53:28,120
Speaker 7: Safety now, it's a it's a special teamer.

3867
02:53:28,320 --> 02:53:29,480
Speaker 6: He's a special teams player.

3868
02:53:30,160 --> 02:53:30,840
Speaker 2: Where's he from?

3869
02:53:31,240 --> 02:53:36,600
Speaker 6: Sacramento State football? I believe Lonnie Paxton if I'm not

3870
02:53:36,680 --> 02:53:38,120
Speaker 6: mistaken with Sacramento State.

3871
02:53:38,760 --> 02:53:41,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, seventy six tackles this last year, just six and

3872
02:53:41,640 --> 02:53:43,879
Speaker 7: a half tackles for lost, one sack, one forced fumble,

3873
02:53:43,959 --> 02:53:45,640
Speaker 7: six passes defense, two interceptions.

3874
02:53:45,680 --> 02:53:46,080
Speaker 6: First team.

3875
02:53:46,120 --> 02:53:49,400
Speaker 8: I'm not going to judge it, big Skuy, I'm not

3876
02:53:49,480 --> 02:53:50,280
Speaker 8: talking about this pig.

3877
02:53:50,360 --> 02:53:52,640
Speaker 6: I don't. I don't know this. I know the player

3878
02:53:53,040 --> 02:53:56,760
Speaker 6: I have him on, I don't know him.

3879
02:53:56,879 --> 02:54:02,199
Speaker 8: I just the fact is is that there's good players

3880
02:54:02,240 --> 02:54:04,160
Speaker 8: still on the board. And look, I understand that the

3881
02:54:04,680 --> 02:54:06,920
Speaker 8: names we know, it's not it doesn't always end up

3882
02:54:06,959 --> 02:54:09,160
Speaker 8: being right right. You know, the Dwan Jones is the

3883
02:54:09,200 --> 02:54:11,120
Speaker 8: Blake Frielans that we were just talking about.

3884
02:54:12,040 --> 02:54:12,520
Speaker 6: Who knows.

3885
02:54:12,760 --> 02:54:16,760
Speaker 8: But even at linebacker, there's guys that are still out there,

3886
02:54:17,080 --> 02:54:21,080
Speaker 8: if I'm not mistaken. You know Trenton Simpson, Deyon Henley

3887
02:54:21,120 --> 02:54:24,840
Speaker 8: from Washington State, who's that kind of like people compared

3888
02:54:24,920 --> 02:54:27,840
Speaker 8: him to Fred Warner type of player coming out of college.

3889
02:54:28,240 --> 02:54:32,680
Speaker 8: Also an undersized athletic linebacker. You know, ESPN didn't have

3890
02:54:32,800 --> 02:54:35,520
Speaker 8: Marty Mapu like that much further down than those guys.

3891
02:54:36,560 --> 02:54:39,440
Speaker 8: I think that he's probably a fourth round pick, but

3892
02:54:39,959 --> 02:54:41,160
Speaker 8: they take him here in the third.

3893
02:54:41,360 --> 02:54:44,200
Speaker 6: I don't know. I just I think there's too much

3894
02:54:44,280 --> 02:54:44,800
Speaker 6: talent on the.

3895
02:54:44,760 --> 02:54:46,600
Speaker 8: Board to take a pick like this, especially you have

3896
02:54:46,959 --> 02:54:50,520
Speaker 8: four fourth round picks, like you have the picks tomorrow

3897
02:54:51,160 --> 02:54:53,560
Speaker 8: to take this guy. Maybe the league was higher on

3898
02:54:53,680 --> 02:54:57,039
Speaker 8: him than all of us, but it kind of seems

3899
02:54:57,080 --> 02:54:58,800
Speaker 8: like this was somebody that they probably could have had

3900
02:54:58,920 --> 02:54:59,520
Speaker 8: early tomorrow.

3901
02:54:59,640 --> 02:55:01,560
Speaker 2: I can't find him in our lads, although I couldn't

3902
02:55:01,560 --> 02:55:02,560
Speaker 2: find C. J. Stroud.

3903
02:55:04,040 --> 02:55:05,640
Speaker 6: Well, at least he's in the Beasts.

3904
02:55:06,320 --> 02:55:10,760
Speaker 2: No, just just I'm joking. Our lads has him as

3905
02:55:10,760 --> 02:55:13,920
Speaker 2: a safety. They have him in their safety block.

3906
02:55:14,120 --> 02:55:15,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a box safety.

3907
02:55:15,360 --> 02:55:18,160
Speaker 2: So I'm wondering if that's how the Patriots drafted him

3908
02:55:18,200 --> 02:55:18,880
Speaker 2: as a safety.

3909
02:55:19,000 --> 02:55:23,080
Speaker 7: Yes, and if they wanted, because I got to imagine

3910
02:55:23,080 --> 02:55:24,560
Speaker 7: that Brian branches about.

3911
02:55:24,360 --> 02:55:26,960
Speaker 2: Well, he better be better than Nate Ebner in the

3912
02:55:27,080 --> 02:55:31,080
Speaker 2: third round, you know, Like I would hope that they

3913
02:55:31,440 --> 02:55:33,760
Speaker 2: drafted him with the hope that he's gonna play safety

3914
02:55:33,840 --> 02:55:36,199
Speaker 2: and not specialty. I mean, he might play specialties.

3915
02:55:36,400 --> 02:55:39,279
Speaker 6: I think you can make an argument that he's a safety, sure, Yeah.

3916
02:55:39,360 --> 02:55:41,920
Speaker 2: But and then he will play safety on the Patriots.

3917
02:55:41,920 --> 02:55:43,840
Speaker 6: When you're reading this stuff that Evan just talked about,

3918
02:55:43,920 --> 02:55:47,440
Speaker 6: lacks short area of athleticism in long speed, yeah, like,

3919
02:55:47,600 --> 02:55:49,720
Speaker 6: so his man coverage might be limited to tight end

3920
02:55:49,800 --> 02:55:50,480
Speaker 6: like and.

3921
02:55:50,520 --> 02:55:52,000
Speaker 2: That's the thing, you know, you talk about all they've

3922
02:55:52,000 --> 02:55:54,680
Speaker 2: got to replace mccordy. Mccordy had elite speed.

3923
02:55:54,760 --> 02:55:56,440
Speaker 6: He was one of the fastest guys in the entire league,

3924
02:55:56,920 --> 02:55:58,640
Speaker 6: his prime elite speed.

3925
02:56:00,840 --> 02:56:03,119
Speaker 2: NFL drafts, the new England.

3926
02:56:04,520 --> 02:56:08,320
Speaker 25: Marte linebacker Sacramental State.

3927
02:56:09,240 --> 02:56:12,840
Speaker 8: By the way, Yeah, the things that I the couple

3928
02:56:12,879 --> 02:56:15,960
Speaker 8: of things that I remember just from people sharing clips

3929
02:56:16,040 --> 02:56:19,879
Speaker 8: on Twitter and stuff like that, is that the intrigue

3930
02:56:19,920 --> 02:56:23,600
Speaker 8: with him was that he's a downhill enforcer type of player.

3931
02:56:23,680 --> 02:56:26,280
Speaker 8: He can blitz, he can come at the line of scrimmage,

3932
02:56:26,680 --> 02:56:29,480
Speaker 8: he can run through people. He's a hard, finished tackler.

3933
02:56:29,959 --> 02:56:33,640
Speaker 8: I think that maybe if you want to be excited,

3934
02:56:33,920 --> 02:56:36,080
Speaker 8: like you there, there's a little bit of edge rushing

3935
02:56:36,200 --> 02:56:38,280
Speaker 8: talent there as well. Like I think he can rush

3936
02:56:38,320 --> 02:56:41,200
Speaker 8: the passer a tiny bit. I don't know if Landon

3937
02:56:41,280 --> 02:56:44,880
Speaker 8: Roberts is like the best comp but he's a downhill

3938
02:56:44,959 --> 02:56:47,400
Speaker 8: player to me, I I wouldn't really trust him too

3939
02:56:47,480 --> 02:56:51,240
Speaker 8: much to play in space, but he dominated if I

3940
02:56:51,320 --> 02:56:53,520
Speaker 8: remember correctly his level of competition.

3941
02:56:53,720 --> 02:56:55,959
Speaker 2: So I heard people say, you know, you know, maybe

3942
02:56:56,040 --> 02:56:59,439
Speaker 2: Kyle Duggar would be the replacement for mccordy.

3943
02:56:59,560 --> 02:57:01,040
Speaker 6: And then quote from Jeremiah.

3944
02:57:01,080 --> 02:57:03,280
Speaker 7: Sorry to interrupt you, Fred, but Marty, this is Daniel

3945
02:57:03,360 --> 02:57:05,680
Speaker 7: Jeremiah saying Martin Mapp, who one of my favorite players

3946
02:57:05,720 --> 02:57:07,840
Speaker 7: in the draft, crap it went away.

3947
02:57:07,959 --> 02:57:11,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Daniel Jeremiah, I think, you know, is

3948
02:57:11,680 --> 02:57:13,320
Speaker 8: hitting on some of the things I was just talking

3949
02:57:13,360 --> 02:57:17,320
Speaker 8: about that he has, that he has some of that

3950
02:57:17,560 --> 02:57:20,400
Speaker 8: upside to be a playmaker around the line of scrimmage.

3951
02:57:20,720 --> 02:57:23,520
Speaker 8: I don't necessarily think that he's going to be somebody

3952
02:57:23,600 --> 02:57:25,400
Speaker 8: that you're going to drop twenty yards off the line

3953
02:57:25,440 --> 02:57:26,959
Speaker 8: of scrimmage and make plays in coverage.

3954
02:57:27,000 --> 02:57:29,000
Speaker 2: You know. But like people are saying, oh, Kyle Dougar

3955
02:57:29,080 --> 02:57:31,120
Speaker 2: could be mccordy's replacement, But if you do that, you

3956
02:57:31,240 --> 02:57:33,480
Speaker 2: kind of lose his ability to play in the box,

3957
02:57:33,720 --> 02:57:36,520
Speaker 2: you know. Could it be that maybe this is the

3958
02:57:36,560 --> 02:57:38,480
Speaker 2: guy they want to play up in the box that

3959
02:57:39,000 --> 02:57:41,880
Speaker 2: you know, big nickel or whatever you want to call it,

3960
02:57:42,400 --> 02:57:46,080
Speaker 2: and allow Doug Art to play back a little bit more.

3961
02:57:46,120 --> 02:57:46,400
Speaker 2: I don't know.

3962
02:57:46,560 --> 02:57:48,560
Speaker 7: I mean, I look, I just got to go off

3963
02:57:48,640 --> 02:57:51,160
Speaker 7: of literally what we just have read and have watched

3964
02:57:51,200 --> 02:57:53,440
Speaker 7: here the highlights that they're putting up on NFL Network.

3965
02:57:53,480 --> 02:57:55,680
Speaker 7: But I just the question I'm asking myself is, if

3966
02:57:55,720 --> 02:57:57,679
Speaker 7: this works out perfectly, what's.

3967
02:57:57,280 --> 02:57:57,920
Speaker 6: His role this year?

3968
02:57:57,959 --> 02:57:59,440
Speaker 7: I mean, as much as Evan went on his rant

3969
02:57:59,480 --> 02:58:01,840
Speaker 7: about how does the second rounder get on the field.

3970
02:58:01,879 --> 02:58:04,000
Speaker 7: I'm like, how does this guy ever get on the field?

3971
02:58:04,080 --> 02:58:04,120
Speaker 9: Like?

3972
02:58:04,240 --> 02:58:06,400
Speaker 6: Is this special team you know? I mean, that's it,

3973
02:58:07,280 --> 02:58:08,480
Speaker 6: He's a special teams player.

3974
02:58:08,760 --> 02:58:09,560
Speaker 2: Just to just to.

3975
02:58:11,160 --> 02:58:15,120
Speaker 8: I tend to lean towards Paul being right about this, honestly,

3976
02:58:15,280 --> 02:58:19,320
Speaker 8: but just to kind of offer just a little tiny bit,

3977
02:58:20,280 --> 02:58:25,240
Speaker 8: a little tiny bit as train of thought, a little

3978
02:58:25,280 --> 02:58:29,120
Speaker 8: tiny tiny bit of hope about this pick. Is that,

3979
02:58:29,800 --> 02:58:33,480
Speaker 8: how long, deuce have we been clamoring for a linebacker

3980
02:58:33,560 --> 02:58:35,160
Speaker 8: that can run a little bit, right, a guy that

3981
02:58:35,240 --> 02:58:37,920
Speaker 8: can go sideline to sideline, that can cover a little

3982
02:58:37,959 --> 02:58:41,440
Speaker 8: bit and has some athleticism, And is this He's a

3983
02:58:41,640 --> 02:58:45,720
Speaker 8: new age linebacker. He's a two pounds inside linebacker. This

3984
02:58:45,920 --> 02:58:49,600
Speaker 8: is not Juwan Bentley, which I would be I was reading. Okay,

3985
02:58:49,720 --> 02:58:52,200
Speaker 8: so here's that question before I say so here's the problem.

3986
02:58:52,480 --> 02:58:55,320
Speaker 8: This is a good, good question, because here's the problem.

3987
02:58:55,959 --> 02:59:00,480
Speaker 8: He didn't test because he's hurt. Ye, so there's no combine,

3988
02:59:00,520 --> 02:59:01,800
Speaker 8: there's no pro day numbers.

3989
02:59:02,080 --> 02:59:02,840
Speaker 6: He did not test.

3990
02:59:02,959 --> 02:59:05,800
Speaker 8: On film, he looks like he's got an explosive gear,

3991
02:59:05,920 --> 02:59:08,280
Speaker 8: but he didn't test, and it's against a lower level

3992
02:59:08,320 --> 02:59:08,920
Speaker 8: of competition.

3993
02:59:09,200 --> 02:59:11,600
Speaker 2: But if he is, if he is fast, I mean

3994
02:59:11,680 --> 02:59:14,600
Speaker 2: we've I've been clamoring for more speed at linebacker, a

3995
02:59:14,760 --> 02:59:17,560
Speaker 2: sideline to sideline guy. We don't have the Tucker Kraft

3996
02:59:17,680 --> 02:59:20,840
Speaker 2: just went to Green bayt.

3997
02:59:19,600 --> 02:59:22,160
Speaker 8: They double dipped, right, Lucas Musgrave or Luke Muskrave.

3998
02:59:22,920 --> 02:59:24,960
Speaker 2: So if he is a guy that can do that,

3999
02:59:25,520 --> 02:59:27,720
Speaker 2: but he's not going to do it from inside linebacker

4000
02:59:27,840 --> 02:59:31,440
Speaker 2: two hundred and seventeen pounds, right, Yeah, he's gonna have

4001
02:59:31,560 --> 02:59:32,640
Speaker 2: to do it from another part.

4002
02:59:32,640 --> 02:59:34,360
Speaker 7: I mean usually two hundred and thirty pounds is too

4003
02:59:34,440 --> 02:59:34,840
Speaker 7: light for them.

4004
02:59:34,920 --> 02:59:37,879
Speaker 6: No, Like I'm fine with Evans thing. I've been clamoring

4005
02:59:37,959 --> 02:59:40,320
Speaker 6: this for like a lot of years, Like, give me

4006
02:59:40,360 --> 02:59:42,680
Speaker 6: an undersize. You've got to be kidding me.

4007
02:59:44,600 --> 02:59:46,360
Speaker 2: This game is wild. Is a Ruin's game?

4008
02:59:46,480 --> 02:59:50,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's been four goals in the third period. Yeah,

4009
02:59:51,680 --> 02:59:57,760
Speaker 6: Manty's pissed. I've been clamoring for an undersized, really athletic linebacker.

4010
02:59:57,840 --> 02:59:59,960
Speaker 6: I just I'm not reading that when I'm reading about him.

4011
03:00:00,400 --> 03:00:04,000
Speaker 6: And for like Daniel Jeremiah, who I love, I think

4012
03:00:04,040 --> 03:00:06,560
Speaker 6: he's calling him his favorite player for reasons other than

4013
03:00:06,640 --> 03:00:11,959
Speaker 6: his ability. Like it's a Sacramento State hybrid safety linebacker,

4014
03:00:12,320 --> 03:00:16,240
Speaker 6: like really hard, but he probably like Evan said dominates

4015
03:00:16,280 --> 03:00:18,320
Speaker 6: at his level of comme. I don't necessarily say he's

4016
03:00:18,400 --> 03:00:22,840
Speaker 6: like this is like a prototypical NFL player. I just

4017
03:00:22,879 --> 03:00:25,160
Speaker 6: think he's probably just one of those guys that you

4018
03:00:25,240 --> 03:00:28,959
Speaker 6: love to root for. Yeah, scrappy, overachiever type. You're going

4019
03:00:29,000 --> 03:00:31,280
Speaker 6: to end up an NFL stark out sid. I mean maybe,

4020
03:00:31,440 --> 03:00:33,160
Speaker 6: I mean he thinks they got a steal. I mean

4021
03:00:33,280 --> 03:00:36,560
Speaker 6: we'll see. Like Phil Pett, I don't know who this

4022
03:00:36,640 --> 03:00:36,960
Speaker 6: guy is.

4023
03:00:38,720 --> 03:00:42,840
Speaker 2: One NFC linebackers coach on map who from Sacramento State's

4024
03:00:42,959 --> 03:00:48,000
Speaker 2: big upside will will backer under the radar with huge potential.

4025
03:00:48,160 --> 03:00:49,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's yeah.

4026
03:00:49,240 --> 03:00:51,320
Speaker 8: But he can run. He can run, he can go

4027
03:00:51,480 --> 03:00:53,400
Speaker 8: side on his island. I think he can come downhill

4028
03:00:53,440 --> 03:00:57,199
Speaker 8: and blitz a little bit as well. He there's flashes

4029
03:00:57,240 --> 03:01:00,240
Speaker 8: of him that are really impressive on tape. I just

4030
03:01:00,280 --> 03:01:03,600
Speaker 8: think that you have to think about the level of competition,

4031
03:01:03,800 --> 03:01:06,480
Speaker 8: the injury that that's a big thing. You know, we

4032
03:01:06,560 --> 03:01:08,240
Speaker 8: don't we don't have any testing numbers.

4033
03:01:09,280 --> 03:01:09,800
Speaker 6: He weighed in.

4034
03:01:09,959 --> 03:01:12,600
Speaker 8: I think it wasn't invited at the combine. I think

4035
03:01:12,640 --> 03:01:13,800
Speaker 8: he waited at his pro day.

4036
03:01:14,000 --> 03:01:14,360
Speaker 6: It wasn't.

4037
03:01:14,440 --> 03:01:17,120
Speaker 8: It wasn't on the combine in by lists, which I

4038
03:01:17,160 --> 03:01:18,760
Speaker 8: think a lot of people at the time thought was

4039
03:01:18,800 --> 03:01:21,320
Speaker 8: a snub, to be fair, but he wasn't invited to

4040
03:01:21,360 --> 03:01:21,880
Speaker 8: the combine.

4041
03:01:22,480 --> 03:01:25,680
Speaker 2: Ben says, I'm so sick of overdrafting players in the draft,

4042
03:01:25,879 --> 03:01:32,360
Speaker 2: or not drafting consensus guys, or prioritizing special teams Matt

4043
03:01:32,400 --> 03:01:35,959
Speaker 2: who was not a third round pick anywhere. Three defensive players,

4044
03:01:36,040 --> 03:01:40,120
Speaker 2: no offensive help, can't wait to lose be lame offensive

4045
03:01:40,160 --> 03:01:43,800
Speaker 2: performances in a good defense. Unreal, how out of touch

4046
03:01:43,879 --> 03:01:45,840
Speaker 2: they seem to be. This is my last year of

4047
03:01:45,959 --> 03:01:48,000
Speaker 2: patience for BB and the crew.

4048
03:01:48,879 --> 03:01:50,400
Speaker 6: It is a fair point that it's another deal.

4049
03:01:50,480 --> 03:01:52,760
Speaker 8: I didn't I was just trying to remember rack my

4050
03:01:52,840 --> 03:01:55,480
Speaker 8: brain to remember about the player, and I totally blank that.

4051
03:01:55,480 --> 03:01:56,840
Speaker 8: The fact that it's now three straight.

4052
03:01:56,720 --> 03:02:00,160
Speaker 6: Defensive I know, like we joke around and you know,

4053
03:02:00,360 --> 03:02:01,320
Speaker 6: on my show.

4054
03:02:01,240 --> 03:02:03,160
Speaker 8: Josh Downs just went to the Colts. So obviously the

4055
03:02:03,240 --> 03:02:04,840
Speaker 8: Colts like Josh Downs in the third round.

4056
03:02:05,000 --> 03:02:07,240
Speaker 6: Like like, I know, we joke around like with my

4057
03:02:07,400 --> 03:02:12,480
Speaker 6: shows and like Bill hats mac yep, I mean, like

4058
03:02:12,560 --> 03:02:13,400
Speaker 6: what are we giving him?

4059
03:02:13,440 --> 03:02:13,640
Speaker 2: Nothing?

4060
03:02:14,200 --> 03:02:17,480
Speaker 7: Like, I mean all the receivers are gone, offensive lineman,

4061
03:02:17,760 --> 03:02:19,080
Speaker 7: who are your receivers next year?

4062
03:02:19,160 --> 03:02:22,040
Speaker 6: It's it's Taekwan and Juju. Those are your two. I mean,

4063
03:02:22,080 --> 03:02:22,360
Speaker 6: that's it.

4064
03:02:23,000 --> 03:02:24,440
Speaker 7: I look and this is like and I feel like

4065
03:02:24,480 --> 03:02:26,040
Speaker 7: it's kind of fun. How Evan and I have kind

4066
03:02:26,080 --> 03:02:28,320
Speaker 7: of flipped. Like Evan, I feel like was not you know,

4067
03:02:28,560 --> 03:02:29,760
Speaker 7: it was a lot more critical last one.

4068
03:02:29,800 --> 03:02:30,760
Speaker 6: He won't be there next year.

4069
03:02:31,040 --> 03:02:31,680
Speaker 2: Oh next year?

4070
03:02:31,760 --> 03:02:33,160
Speaker 6: You mean, my my issue is that.

4071
03:02:33,320 --> 03:02:35,240
Speaker 7: And we all know now my famous study of pulling

4072
03:02:35,280 --> 03:02:38,240
Speaker 7: off how many picks that the Patriots have totally whiffed

4073
03:02:38,320 --> 03:02:41,280
Speaker 7: on in the past four drafts, and a few of

4074
03:02:41,360 --> 03:02:43,720
Speaker 7: them came in the third round. And I can't help

4075
03:02:43,760 --> 03:02:45,480
Speaker 7: but look at this pick and say, this guy's never

4076
03:02:45,560 --> 03:02:47,720
Speaker 7: playing it down for the Patriots, Like that's just my,

4077
03:02:47,959 --> 03:02:50,880
Speaker 7: that's just my that's my overreaction right now to this.

4078
03:02:51,520 --> 03:02:55,480
Speaker 7: But I mean, I just I'm as much as we

4079
03:02:55,560 --> 03:02:58,360
Speaker 7: get like, oh, we've been longing for this linebacker, Well,

4080
03:02:58,400 --> 03:03:01,680
Speaker 7: then draft a linebacker like from a big school, like

4081
03:03:01,800 --> 03:03:03,720
Speaker 7: go get Drew Sanders or something if you really want

4082
03:03:03,840 --> 03:03:05,560
Speaker 7: like a guy in that kind of old Trent Simpson like,

4083
03:03:06,480 --> 03:03:08,400
Speaker 7: I don't know. I look, I'll give this guy the

4084
03:03:08,480 --> 03:03:10,560
Speaker 7: ben out of of the doubt and we'll get out

4085
03:03:10,560 --> 03:03:12,160
Speaker 7: there and we'll see exactly how they use him, and

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Speaker 7: maybe he's a diamond in the rough, but you.

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Speaker 8: Can take the diamond in the rough in the fourth

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Speaker 8: round and you could have taken Josh Downs in this

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Speaker 8: spot or any of the tackles that I listed off

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Speaker 8: before they picked. And look, they have a lot more

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Speaker 8: information on these guys than I do. Maybe there's concerns

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Speaker 8: that we don't know about about some of these other

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Speaker 8: players that we've been talking about. There are a couple

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Speaker 8: of receivers that are still hanging out there, like a

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Speaker 8: Tyler Scott, like a Charlie Jones. A caller mentioned at

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Speaker 8: Perry Michael Wilson from Stanford, somebody that they had in here.

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Speaker 8: Not not really my favorite guys in the couple of

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Speaker 8: other Charlie Jones. But there are still a couple of

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Speaker 8: receivers I think the most disappointing thing unless they are

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Speaker 8: gonna just take that flyer that nobody else will on

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Speaker 8: Darnell Washington and just risk it with whatever injury issue

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Speaker 8: he's he has right now, it seems like other than

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Speaker 8: him and Zach Kons, they've kind of missed boat on

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Speaker 8: this tight end class, and that's really disappointed.

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Speaker 2: We're going to wrap up this show. Let's see the

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Speaker 2: Patriots have no more picks in the third round. That's

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Speaker 2: not to say later tonight they don't move back into

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Speaker 2: the third round, but as of now, no picks in

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Speaker 2: the third We'll be back tomorrow at two o'clock two

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Speaker 2: to four tomorrow, So anything that happens between now and then,

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Speaker 2: obviously we'll have a chance to talk about it tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: So for tonight, thank you for watching and listening, and

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Speaker 2: we'll talk to you tomorrow.

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