1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Seahawks Insiders. Russell It takes the snap, 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: steps off of the pocket, looks half time. Now he's 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: gonna throw Tyler Lockham looks for the ball. He's got 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: a touchdown. Stayhawks, getting you ready for Seahawks football every Sunday. 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: The handoff inside of Carson starts up the middle. Now 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: bounces it the cross the lot to down Steahawks powered 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: by Seahawks dot Com. Welcome to the Seahawks Insiders podcast. 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: It's the first podcast of the season, and I'll admit, 9 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: John Boyled, this feels a little bit awkward as we 10 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: welcome everybody into a new Seahawks season. Normally we'd be 11 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: sitting about two feet apart in a little radio room 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: and instead we're using the magic of the internet and 13 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: doing it virtually. It's the world we live in these days, 14 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: I guess it is, and I'm glad that we can 15 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: still talk football. And if you are new to the podcast, 16 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: we should back up and make sure that folks know 17 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: who we are. I'm Jen Mueller's sideline reporter for the team, 18 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: entering the twelfth season, covering the sidelines for these Hawks. 19 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: The other voice, John Boyle, he as you covered, pick 20 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: that up. The other voice is John Boyle. He's got 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: you covered with everything on Seahawks dot Com. And John, 22 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: you've been in the building a whole lot more than 23 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: I have for some reasons of social distancing and just 24 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: overall numbers that they have to maintain. But in general, 25 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: you mentioned the new normal and how we're doing things. 26 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 1: What is that like around the team and how things 27 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: are happening with all the protocols. Yeah, I mean, it's 28 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: it's a totally different setup than we've ever seen before. 29 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: You know, I'm allowed in certain areas of the building, 30 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: but you know in the past, I could walk freely anywhere. 31 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: I could be in the locker room talk to players. 32 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: Now it's you know, your staff as isolated to one area. 33 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: Players and coaches and you know, trainers and all that 34 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: aren't another area. We're totally divided. All all the interviews 35 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: were doing after practice and before practice are just like 36 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: this on a video conference call versus in person. So 37 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: very different. But the good thing is there's still football 38 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: happening now in that field, and they're still getting ready 39 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: for a season, and it's very encouraging what we've been 40 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: seeing around the league in terms of the testing numbers 41 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: have been great, and I think there's a lot of 42 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: cautious optimism about the way things are progressing. And before 43 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: we get into the observations that we have made in 44 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: watching practice, I would just say some observations of hearing 45 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: guys talk about how they are handling things this year. 46 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: And Pete Carroll has repeated over and over again the 47 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: way that they handled their video conferencing meetings during the offseason, 48 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: he thinks has prepared them for being dialed in right 49 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: now when things really count and really matter, And it 50 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: seems like the guys have all at least embraced the 51 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: fact that they can still have meetings and move forward 52 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: towards the season. Yeah, and you know, as Pete would 53 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 1: say over and over again throughout this off season, that's 54 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: to him, everything's a competition. So we're all dealing with 55 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: this new normal league wide. Let's see if we can 56 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: figure out a way to do it better. And you know, 57 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: whether that was bringing Wilf Ferrell and meeting or doing 58 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: other things to keep people having fun and engaged, he's, 59 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: as you said, he feels like they've done a really 60 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: good job at this point. He talked about even somehow 61 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: he feels like the rookies are more mentally obviously physically 62 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: there behind because they didn't have their on field work, 63 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: but mentally ahead of where a lot of rookie classes 64 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: have been in terms of knowing their playbook and everything, 65 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: which you wouldn't think would be the case. But they 66 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: feel like they did a really good job kind of 67 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: making the best out of this really odd situation. Well, 68 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: and I do think part of that is the way 69 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: the Seahawks drafted. I mean, they knew that they were 70 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: up against some challenging circumstances and getting the rookies up 71 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: to speed, and I think part of what we're seeing 72 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: and correct me if I'm wrong, is just the type 73 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: of person that they drafted, knowing that they were self 74 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: starters and that they had played in a program already 75 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: where they were expected to do these things exactly. They 76 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: talked about this going all the way back to the 77 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: draft weekend. A theme kind of emerged that a lot 78 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: of these guys they drafted were you know, three four 79 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: year starters or guys from big programs or both, and 80 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: just the type of personalities that, as you said, our 81 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: self starters are our guys that coaches just go back 82 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: to the conversations Pete Carroll had with Ed o'deron about 83 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: Damian Lewis and just how righty he was going to 84 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: be for it, and then we've seen it at camp. 85 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: He's been out there as the number one right guard, 86 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: and Pete Carroll's were aven about how prepared he is. 87 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean for the most part, there's a 88 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: few exceptions, but most of that draft class are guys 89 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: that are gonna be maybe a little bit ahead of 90 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: red shirt sophomore who's a little raw or something like that. 91 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: You started getting into what we've seen on the field. 92 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: So how about if we go through a couple of observations. No, 93 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: it's perfect. That was a segue. We call that a 94 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: segue in the industry. John, you talked a little bit 95 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: about Damien Lewis overall impressions of camp. If we were 96 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: just to get the high level view, what has stood 97 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: out to you and I actually can I go first? 98 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: I'm sending you up through that. Yeah, Jamal Adams, Well, yeah, 99 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: take a super easy one. Jan Well, when you pose 100 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: the question, you can be the first one to answer. 101 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: John h super smooth. I mean, everything he does, whether 102 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: it's a drill. Whether he is running, he is super 103 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: smooth and so fast. He has been fun to watch 104 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: out on the field. Yes, and I mean you can 105 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: extend that out to the whole secondary that that's going 106 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: to be a really exciting group. And we haven't even 107 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: really seen Quentin Dunbar yet. He hasn't done much yet 108 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: in his first couple of days on the field. But 109 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: with with you know, Scille Griffin expected to only get 110 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: better and they're looking for Trey Flowers and make a 111 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: big job Quandrid Digs finally gained a full season. That's 112 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: in that obviously. Jamal Adams just highlighted he's he's so 113 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: fun to watch. I can't wait to see him in 114 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: a real game situation, you know, if we go to 115 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: the other side of the ball. I'm just really really 116 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: excited to see where this passing game can go. I 117 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: know there's always going to be the debate of how 118 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: much you throw it, you know, how much of the 119 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: game is in Russell Wilson's hands. I think we'll see 120 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: a little more of that. Who knows what that's going 121 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: to look like. But he is just so good every day. 122 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: We almost take it for grant because you watch him. 123 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: You know, what is this now eight years of doing this, 124 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: But it's just it's fun to talk to people who 125 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: haven't covered this. He actually very long, who've covered other teams, 126 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: and they come in and they're like, whoa like you 127 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: take it for grant and just how good he has 128 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: every day. And then the pass catchers he has. We 129 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: obviously know how great Tyler Lockett is a dk metcalf. 130 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of hype around him, but 131 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: it is warranted. He is looking so good out there, 132 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: and you know, I wrote about this in one of 133 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: my practice observations. They're just throwing it to him all 134 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: the time when he's covered, and he just catches his 135 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: name because he's so big and so physical. And then 136 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: you know, we'll see what emerges depthwise. But Philip Dorsets 137 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: looked really good. He is so fast. And then just 138 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: all these young guys competing for playing time. And then 139 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: we haven't even talked about the tight ends, which I 140 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: think if that unit's healthy, he could be one of 141 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: their best position groups on the team, you know, with 142 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: Greg Olson that and NTO, Will Disley and everybody else. 143 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, the passing game, you know, for you for 144 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: your question of big takeaways that really excites me. Well, 145 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: and at this point in time, we would have gotten 146 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: a chance to see at least a couple of preseason games, 147 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: no preseason games this year across the league. What kind 148 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: of impact do you think that's going to end up 149 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: having going to Week one? I mean, to me, league wide, 150 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: the biggest impact that's going to have is kind of 151 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: mystery element. We talk about individual players. It's going to 152 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: really affect young guys. It's going to hurt undrafted guys 153 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: trying to make the team, things like that. But when 154 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: you talk about the product we're all going to see 155 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: when we turn the TV, you're going to see some 156 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: interesting games where especially teams that have made any changes 157 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: in coaching staff or just changes in personnel things like that, 158 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: no one's really going to know quite what to expect 159 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: because there's going to be none of that preseason film. 160 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: I go back to the opener against Cincinnati last year. 161 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: Or they were not a very good team, but they 162 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: had a brand new coaching staff, a brand new offense, 163 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: and they then you know, Pete Carroll admitted they played 164 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: it really vanilla on defense because they weren't sure what 165 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: they're going to see and they struggle a little bit 166 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: in that game because there's just so much element of mystery. 167 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: And really, for the first couple of weeks league wide, 168 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: you're going to see some of that. It's gonna be 169 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: interesting to see how it plays out well. And a 170 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: result of not having any preseason games and no offseason workouts, 171 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: the team is ramping up slowly. So it was a 172 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: strength and conditioning period and we were about ten days 173 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: in before the Seahawks put on the pads for the 174 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: first time. And of course it is like Christmas Day 175 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: for most of these guys, and it's something that Pete 176 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: Carroll says, Yeah, you can actually see quite a bit 177 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: out there. The guys jumped right to it. The transition 178 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: to wearing pads was nobody deal at all. We banged 179 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: around pretty good, and you know, you do, it starts 180 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: to take shape and you know, you start to try 181 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: not to make really conclusive decisions and all that kind 182 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: of stuff. But we learned some stuff yesterday was good, 183 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: so as we continue to observe what's happening in those 184 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: padded practices. Of course, the Seahawks will have a couple 185 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: of mock games that will make up for those preseason games. 186 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: Let's dive into some of these position groups. And I'd 187 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: like to start on the defensive side since we started 188 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: the conversation with Jamal Adams, because I think that they 189 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: for as much as we think we know what the 190 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: secondary looks like, I think there's a lot of questions 191 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: as to how the linebackers will rotate and what's happening 192 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: on the defensive line. So let's kind of go through here. 193 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: You get Jared Reid back, you retain him from last year, 194 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: so your d tackle is set. But there's a lot 195 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: of talk about what happens with the d ns, especially 196 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: after you bring back Benson Mayowa. You've got Bruce Irvin 197 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: who can come off the edge. But there's a couple 198 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: of names that are floating around out there that the 199 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: Seahawks fans are wondering if we see some additions in 200 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: that group. Yeah, and that's a fair question one based 201 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: off this team's history of they've tend to have pretty 202 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: good success adding veteran guys, especially veteran defensive tackles. I 203 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: mean you go back and look at you know, for 204 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: a long time, it was always Brandon Mebane and then 205 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: some random veteran guy they'd plug in and do that, 206 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: and they've kind of continued that trend. So yeah, there's 207 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: some good veteran you know, d tackles still out there. 208 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: You could probably get on a relatively affordable deal. And 209 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 1: then until Jadeveon Clowne he signed somewhere. That question is 210 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: going to hang over this team because he was here 211 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: last year and both he and the Seahawks have said that, 212 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: you know, the door was still open, so we'll have 213 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: to see what happens there. But you know, as that 214 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: group is currently constructed, there are going to be questions 215 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: because of who left and who wasn't back. But they 216 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: are really excited about some of what they've added. I 217 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: think Benson Mayowa has looked even better than what they 218 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: were expecting, and he's excited. It is fun to hear 219 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: him talk the other day about you know, this is 220 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: a guy he's been kind of that role player his 221 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: whole life and this is you know, he's got to 222 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: earn it. But he's out there the first team right 223 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: now and he's got a chance to really be that starter. 224 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: And it was funny a name he brought up. He 225 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily comparison comparing himself to him. But a name 226 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: he brought up that I thought was a good fit 227 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: was Chris Clemens. He was a guy that his current 228 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: very similar undrafted guy. You know, had a decent career 229 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: before he came to see Howle, but was never a starter. 230 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: Was kind of just that rotational guy. He came here 231 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden became a startled off three 232 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: straight eleven sacks seasons. So look, I not gonna type 233 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: Benson Mayle has given you eleven sacks, but they do 234 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: think he can be really good with that extra, that 235 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: bigger role. Well, and the other thing that Benson said 236 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: was it really doesn't matter who you have as long 237 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: as you've got eight guys that are working together when 238 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: you talk about getting after the quarterback. Now again, I 239 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: know that some people are going to disagree, but it 240 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: goes back to the comparison of Chris Clements because if 241 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: you take a look at those teams, I don't know 242 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: that any of those guys were true standout guys when 243 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: they got here. If you look at Clem and Michael Bennett, 244 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: he had a good career, but he wasn't the Pro 245 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: Bowl guy that he became here, and Cliff Avril had 246 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: played for Detroit, So I don't know if you agree. 247 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: It's interesting. As Benson said, as long as you've got 248 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: eight guys that are all moving in the same direction 249 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: and then sync, you'll be fine. That might be oversimplifying it, 250 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: particularly when you don't have as many practices, but I 251 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: do like the speed that we have seen in practice 252 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: and what we've seen from that group, so are yeah, 253 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: for sure, and then it's it's ultimately gonna I think 254 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: to me, the difference between this being a passable group 255 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: and what could become a really good one is how 256 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: a lot of the young guys contribute, whether that's the 257 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: rookies and unfortunate. We haven't seen Darryl Taylor yet, but 258 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: you know, between him and Alton Robinson and then LJ. Collier, 259 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: they need to get you know, some you know, he 260 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: doesn't need to come out and be a superstar or two, 261 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: but they need to get real contributions from him. And 262 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: if you get some of those young guys stepping up 263 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: to add to what Bruce Servant and Benson Mayo will get, yeah, 264 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: then yeah. And then look, Jamal Adams got six and 265 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: a half sacks last year. He's going to get chances 266 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: to blitz and affect the pass rusher. And I think 267 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: if the secondary is as good as we think it's 268 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: gonna be, that's gonna make your pass rush better as well. 269 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: Because look, you just talked about those teams in the 270 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: earlier part of the decade. Those are good pass rushers 271 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: and good defensive line, but they also benefit from having 272 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame secondary behind him, and you know, 273 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: those two things are always tied together. So if the 274 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: secondary is as good as we think it's going to be, 275 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: that makes your pass rush better right there. All right, 276 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: So we've got d line that we've talked about how linebackers. 277 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: I know that this is another question. It is and 278 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: the first time you see Jordan Brooks on the field, 279 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: you kind of do a double take, right. I Mean, 280 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: part of it is the way that he wears his uniform. 281 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 1: He has adopted clearly the short shorts that Luke Wilson 282 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: made popular a few years ago among the tight ends. 283 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: But he is put together in such a way where 284 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 1: you just want to see him level some dudes. Yeah, 285 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he's might hearing Pete Carroll talk about just physically, 286 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: you know, getting into all the descriptions of his legs 287 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: and everything else. Just he's a he's a well put 288 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: together linebacker. He just you look at me like, yep, 289 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: that's a linebacker. And he's so fast, you know, to 290 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: digress a little bit, just the speed of the speed 291 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: they've added to this defense as a whole, I think 292 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: is going to make a big difference. But go back 293 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: to linebacker. I don't know how everybody gets on the 294 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: field that's good enough to be on the field, and 295 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: that's gonna be kind of I mean, you you hope 296 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: everyone's healthy, but if there are injuries, they have so much. Definitely, 297 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: I feel like the addition of Jordan Brooks kind of 298 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: makes us forget about Cody bar a little bit. And 299 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: this time last year, I mean, Cody Barton was just 300 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: looking incredible in the training camp in the preseason, and 301 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: then he struggled a little bit that first game. He 302 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: had a tough first game against the Rams, which was 303 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: a hard offense for a young linebacker to play. But 304 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: he settled down late in the season, taken over for 305 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: Michael Kendricks and played really well. So it's I mean, 306 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: they feel like they've got when you when you add 307 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: prew Servan, who's kind of that hybrid linebacker d end 308 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: They feel like they've got you know, five or six 309 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: starting caliber linebackers right now. How much do you make 310 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: of a conversation around kJ Wright switching over to playing 311 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: strong side instead of week side and possibly not seeing 312 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: time on the field and what he means in the 313 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: locker room and there's a I think outside there's a 314 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: lot of question marks. It doesn't feel like that to 315 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: me inside. No, I mean it's hard to don't. I 316 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: don't know how to answer because I have no idea 317 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: what's going to happen. Jordan Brooks, they've said, as you know, 318 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: his best fit is that week side spot. They've also 319 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: said both he and kJ can play strong side. kJ 320 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: hasn't done it in a long time, and he's said 321 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: last year he kind of made it clear when they're 322 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: talking about where how do you get him and Kendricks 323 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: on the field, he prefers that weak side spot and 324 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: not that he necessarily gets to side where he plays. 325 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: But you do sometimes want to, you know, make the 326 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: veterans happy. So does one of them play strong side 327 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: and want to play week side? Is it a just 328 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: simple competition one or the other a week side that 329 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, because they both look so good. I 330 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: think there's definitely gonna be ways they get them both 331 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: on the field, and maybe that's you know, you make 332 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: preserving just more of a true defensive end than a 333 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: strong side linebacker. But look, it's one of those classic 334 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: good problems to have. I don't know how you work 335 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: it out, but you hope and then you know. Unfortunately, 336 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: if there is an injury. You like the depth there, 337 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: but you hope that everybody's healthy, and they're just having 338 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: to sort that out. One of the things the Seahawks 339 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: are also trying to sort out as we switch over 340 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: to the other side of the ball is their offensive line. 341 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: You're gonna have three new starters on the offensive line, 342 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: and so far Pete Carroll likes what he see in 343 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: particularly from the rookie. Yeah, we can see that we 344 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: have really good depth in terms of the competition the 345 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: guard spots in particular, uh Cedric. It gives us a 346 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: really classy tackle in the rotation as well. Brandon Shell 347 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: has made a really good first impression as the right tackle. 348 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: He's exactly what we were hoping he would be. I 349 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: probably gotta tell you that I'm surprised even though we 350 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: heard so many good things about Damian Lewis and how 351 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: he was he would be able to handle this stuff 352 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: right out of the shoots he has. So he's right 353 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: in the middle of competition to be a starter, and 354 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: he's got good guys pushing him and Jordan Simmons and 355 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: uh Philip Hayes, those guys are those guys are formidable guys. Um. 356 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: Also we see Jamarco Jones was really giving us a 357 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: guy that can play in a lot of spots. Um. 358 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: He's really can play four spots on the line. Um. 359 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: And he's a good, good football player for us. He 360 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: played very well last year in some tough games. And 361 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: also we've got good quality depth And I can't tell 362 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: you what the story is gonna be. You know, the 363 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: center spot with Postic and uh um and you see 364 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: you'll see Kyle Fuller as well as bj it's gonna 365 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: be a wide open competition. We're gonna let those guys go. 366 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: So at what point, John, do you think decisions get 367 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: made on starters? Because Pete just said, for continuity and 368 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: for practice sake, we need to figure out who's going 369 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 1: to be in there exactly. It's you know, you want 370 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: to have a competition and get the best guys. But 371 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: you're also talking about the position group where that continuity 372 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: probably matters most. And there's no preseason this year to 373 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: get it. You have less time, you had no offseason workouts. 374 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: It's you know, it's tough because you know, of all 375 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: the years to change that many offensive linemen, a year 376 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: with no offseason workouts is probably a tough one. But 377 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: I would guess, you know, as Pete said, they want 378 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: to do it sooner or later. It seems not that 379 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: there's not still competition, but they seem you know, if 380 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: you watch who's with the first team, they seem fairly 381 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: well settled on really everything but center. That's been the 382 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: most true rotation between Ethan Postic and BJ Finney. And 383 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: you know, Damian Lewis has mostly been the right guard 384 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: and Shell has mostly been the right tackle, and Pete 385 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: Carroll's raped about him. You know, I wouldn't be surprised 386 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: if they kind of attle on those four and maybe 387 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: keep letting the center's battle a little bit longer. But 388 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: they're also not going to just shut it down early 389 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: and miss an opportunity for a young guy like Phil 390 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: Haynes or Jordan Simmons to earn his spot. So it's 391 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: it's a tough, tough one to make, but they do 392 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: like the depth they've created there. The observations I had 393 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: from watching practice this week. And I'm watching Damian Lewis 394 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: because Pete Carroll has praised him and I want to 395 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: see how the rookie's doing. And I look out there 396 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, you know, he looks kind of 397 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: short standing next to these other guys, Like how big 398 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: is he? And I consult my roster and he's six two. 399 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: He is not. The line is huge. I mean, Michelle 400 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: is a huge guy. We know Micha Potti is a 401 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: big guy in post six, really tall. So you know, 402 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: Damian Lewis is he needs to come stand next to 403 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: me at practice and then you'll understand that stand next 404 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: to a normal size human. But it does go to 405 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: show how philosophies change on the offensive line. And now 406 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: we have gone back to bigger bodies and what that 407 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: pot intertly means for the run game. And of course 408 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: that helps when you have tight ends that are as 409 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: stout and that are as let's say skilled, particularly when 410 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,479 Speaker 1: we're talking about Greg Olson. We haven't talked about him 411 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: hardly at all. We haven't seen a whole lot of him, 412 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean that he's not making an impression 413 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: in that room. Well, he's really gonna give us a presence, 414 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: you know, his his you know the experience that he brings, 415 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: the wherewithal he's a brilliant football player, all of that. Physically, 416 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: he looks really good, he's moving great, he had a 417 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: great offseason. He's he's fast, you know, for a guy 418 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: that's older, he's fast. He runs terrific routes and he's 419 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: got special plays in them too, you know. And uh 420 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: Russ has already worked it out with him. They had 421 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: a really good summer together. So you can see that 422 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: they're off in flying and you know, there's there's a 423 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: it's a great security aspect of the throwing game to 424 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: have your tight end that you can really count on. 425 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: And so hopefully, hopefully we'll develop a real good, uh 426 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: you know, connection between those two guys, and you'll see 427 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: him in crucial situations and all over the field in 428 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: situational football. He'll be a big factor too. So, John, 429 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: how do you think Greg Olson affects this group? But 430 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily mean in terms of catches or numbers, 431 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: but what have we seen as far as his influence. 432 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: It's funny if you go back to when he first 433 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: talked to the media after he signed one of the 434 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: things he said that caught my eye or I guess 435 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: here we were, we're doing a video call. He talked 436 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: about like, look, I'm going to come in and answer 437 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: questions and lead, but I'm not here to be a 438 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 1: big brother. He doesn't want to be the token like, oh, 439 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: experienced guy you can lean on. He wants to go 440 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: out there and produce. That being said, he is very 441 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: much that guy that you talk to anybody about him 442 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: and they just rave about what his experience brings in 443 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: his leadership. So he's going to bring a ton to 444 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: this team in terms of the experience. He has, his 445 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: knowledge of the game and his work ethic. But then 446 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: you know, the most important thing is going to be 447 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: seeing him produce. And you watch him on the field. 448 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: Anytime you bring in a guy who's got that many 449 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: years under his belt is thirty five years, the first 450 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: question has to be like, look, what's he got left. 451 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: He's come off some injuries, but you look at him 452 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: on the field and he does not look like a 453 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: thirty five year old tight end at the back end 454 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 1: of his career. He moves very well, he still runs 455 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: great routes, and he looks like a guy. He can 456 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: be a huge problem. And I think when you consider 457 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 1: what it would look like to have him and will 458 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: Disley fingers cross knock on wood, he can stay healthy 459 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: after becoming unfortunately, as Pete Carroll has pointed out, really 460 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: good at rehab in the last couple of years. You 461 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: like how that looks the outlet that they can be 462 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: for Russell Wilson and so many of those options, and 463 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: and then you almost forget about Jacob Hollister and then 464 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: the other tight ends that they drafted this year. Yeah, 465 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: I mean that group is going to be tough to 466 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: sort out. I think we all kind of know that 467 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: top two is going to be dislaying Greg Olsen if 468 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,719 Speaker 1: everybody's healthy, But beyond that it's wide open. I mean, 469 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: you bring Luke Wilson back, you know, we'll see with 470 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: the injury to the tight end. Why am I friend 471 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: the name of the titan, they drafted Kolby Parkinson, thank you. 472 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: We'll see with Kolby Parkinson. You know, when he's back 473 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: with his injury and mixing in there. But it's it's 474 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: a really talented group, a lot of different styles of 475 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: tight ends, which gives them a lot of options of 476 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: how they use them. But yeah, it's you know, I 477 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: have no clue what everything's gonna look like beyond Greg 478 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: Olson and well this Lee, but just that duo, as 479 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: you mentioned, that's going to be fun when they get 480 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: the two of them on the field. They're both tight ends, 481 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: you can do a lot of different things, and they're 482 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: gonna be fun to watch. Over the time being, we're 483 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: gonna have to settle for watching the Seahawks in mock games. 484 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: And I do think that after they get one of 485 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: those under their belts, we'll be able to sort through 486 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: a few of those other positions, you know, particularly wide receiver. 487 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: As the Seahawks bring in some new guys. You've got 488 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 1: established players. We hit on a couple of them, but 489 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: I think that that's going to be a conversation we 490 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: can dive into deeper in the next couple of weeks. 491 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: Which also means John that I essentially just assigned you homework. 492 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: All right, Well, that's okay, I have to do that anyway, 493 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: Whether I'm going to talk to you about it. I 494 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: got to pay attention to any well. It just it 495 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: makes me feel like, you know, I'm the boss if 496 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: you have to report back to me on it and 497 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: if I assigned you homework. So are you though? Jen? 498 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: Are you? This is a poor way to start off 499 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: our twenty twenty Seahawks season of Insiders Seahawks Insiders Podcast, John, 500 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a power struggle. Yeah, social distance yours, 501 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: That's really, that's all I was going for. You. Guys 502 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: heard it. I heard it, and that's all you're going 503 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: to hear from us today. We'll be back with you 504 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: next time.