WEBVTT - Agree To Disagree

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<v Speaker 1>Get gett boys. It's back and reoaded all in your mind. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not deep throating. This is for the streets, the reel,

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<v Speaker 1>the railroading, the distant franchise, the truth escape building. And

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<v Speaker 1>they ain't knowing we speak the truth, so they quoted

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<v Speaker 1>because we wrote it. The north south East coat is

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<v Speaker 1>the g be my tree, keeping your head bobbing. It

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<v Speaker 1>ain't no stopping and wants to be drops head by

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<v Speaker 1>then the system is so corrupt they throw the rock

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<v Speaker 1>out of their hands and then blame it on us.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't get it twisted on code and me and danced

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<v Speaker 1>for no buttament biscuits. It's Willie de y'all scarfaces in

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<v Speaker 1>the building. Collectively we are the Ghet old Boys reloaded,

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<v Speaker 1>reloaded with another episode of information and instructions to help

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<v Speaker 1>you navigate through this wild, crazy, beautiful world in the studio.

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<v Speaker 1>Ghet old ghett Old Ghett old Boys, Yo, Ghetto boys,

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<v Speaker 1>Get old boys, what's going on? Not get old boy? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you still on this ship? Yeah? I'm on that ship. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, you had an interesting weekend. Let's talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about it. I mean ship like I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>got a chance to go up and be a part

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<v Speaker 1>of the fifty years of hip hop. And I saw

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<v Speaker 1>some of my classmates and that was about it. Nothing

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<v Speaker 1>nothing too great, nothing too great, but to be a

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<v Speaker 1>part of something that was that that looked like a fat,

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<v Speaker 1>that that everybody thought was a fat back then to

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<v Speaker 1>last for fifty years and then, you know, turn out

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking award show. Like in my opinion, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that that um performance that it, that segment of the

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<v Speaker 1>show was unbelievable. So the elephant in the room, you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you were slighted. I feel beyond slighted. Like

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm trying to figure out is, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>like I ask you Wednesday when we left here, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>what you got for the weekend? You say, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go fun with this Grammy stack. I said, all right, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>safe travels, because you know that's how we do it. Saturday, Calm.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at the I'm looking at the I'm online

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<v Speaker 1>and our article comes across about the Grammys, and I

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<v Speaker 1>see ghetto boards and scar face. Let me see that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have it now. I want to see where

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<v Speaker 1>it says ghetto bays scar face. No, it's no. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what I'm saying, want to say, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to never get ghetto boys and scarface intertwined ever, because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need ghetto boys to be scar face, you

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<v Speaker 1>feel me. So if it said scarface, ghetto boys and

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<v Speaker 1>scarface and any of that ship too together, then they're

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<v Speaker 1>wrong for that because I can stand on my own

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<v Speaker 1>two feet with no ghetto boys. And this is why. So,

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<v Speaker 1>this is why what was so baffling, because everybody knows

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<v Speaker 1>that right, you carve dot a place in history for yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>You were so good at what you did as a

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<v Speaker 1>solo artist. You get that. Can't nobody deny that. So

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't no hate, ain't no jealousy whatsoever. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember I'm the one that said, hey man, you are

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<v Speaker 1>to call yourself scar face. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm I ain't gonna never hate on you never.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I want when I see you win, and

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<v Speaker 1>I see Ghetto boys winning because we are a group.

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<v Speaker 1>So when when when somebody said, start talking about scar

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<v Speaker 1>Face standing on his own I said the minset I said,

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<v Speaker 1>were scar Face got enough hit songs where he don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to. How I get be doing a ghetto boys song?

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<v Speaker 1>He could have just done a scar face song. If

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<v Speaker 1>you would have done a scar face song, that would

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<v Speaker 1>have been different. A scar face song is a scar

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<v Speaker 1>face song that's on scar Faces catalog, not Ghetto Boys catalog.

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<v Speaker 1>And to do a song on that's from the Ghetto

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<v Speaker 1>Boys catalog, my mind's playing tricks. A song that I

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<v Speaker 1>co wrote, and to not have me included in that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's go back to how the song came about

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<v Speaker 1>two until you did have a um a verse on

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<v Speaker 1>that record. Um those three verses. We all know where

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<v Speaker 1>those three verses and the music came from. You put

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<v Speaker 1>another verse on it. But do you recall back when

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<v Speaker 1>you heard that song and Jay was trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>you to rap on that motherfucker, but you didn't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember that. I don't know everybody didn't like

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<v Speaker 1>the song, but I didn't think it was anything phenomenal. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well it's phenomenal, And actually, now I think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of ship that I do that's phenomenal,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that the the the reversal of trying

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<v Speaker 1>to put that ship on me because you didn't go

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<v Speaker 1>there to the Grammys is fucked up. Because my my

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<v Speaker 1>phone rang okay, And if a motherfucker didn't reach out

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<v Speaker 1>to you, it's not my fault. So don't put that

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<v Speaker 1>ship on me, Willie. That's not cool. I'm not cool.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I performed that song, I don't get mad

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<v Speaker 1>when you go out and perform that song, bro, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I wouldn't even give a funk if you

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<v Speaker 1>got the call. That's not that's not how I'm made like.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care about that. Have you ever went on

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<v Speaker 1>before my mind playing tricks somewhere before without me? Okay? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>me too, Okay, okay. So here's the difference. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>talking about just performing. We're not just talking about performing

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<v Speaker 1>a song anywhere everywhere like we all do, every last

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<v Speaker 1>one of us have done it. We're talking about that.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about a moment in history, the fifty year,

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<v Speaker 1>a fifty year tribute to hip hop, a moment that's captures,

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<v Speaker 1>a moment that's captors encapsulated in history, a moment that

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<v Speaker 1>people ain't gonna never forget. Now. I understand that it

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<v Speaker 1>was short time, but here's where I'm at with that.

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<v Speaker 1>For something like that, for you to sit across this

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<v Speaker 1>table for me weekly and knowing that you're gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>to the Grammars and perform that song? Let me hold

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<v Speaker 1>up the time out. I didn't know I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do that. So at what point did you? Did you know?

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<v Speaker 1>When I got there? Okay, so all right, okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know you was, but you you didn't know you

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna perform my mind's plan. But when you found out,

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<v Speaker 1>did you did? Did you even think to say, man,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a big moment. I'm performing to get old

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<v Speaker 1>boys song, something that me and Willie D wrote. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote three verses, but will wrote one. He was

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<v Speaker 1>on the song he is a ghet old boy that

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<v Speaker 1>they want to get old boys song. Did you think

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<v Speaker 1>for one moment to say, yo, will you know, even

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<v Speaker 1>if even if time was running out on you, you you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think for one moment to say, man, let me

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<v Speaker 1>just at least call Wheelless and let him know what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on. It didn't. It didn't cast your mind to

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<v Speaker 1>say that. It didn't cross my mind, Willie, It didn't

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<v Speaker 1>cross my mind. M Hm. I don't believe you. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe you know. I'm just I'm just I'm just saying, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe you, bro, because I know you're smarter

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<v Speaker 1>than that. Well I didn't, I know, I know, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It's it's so much ship going on a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things, and it's so much. Let me tell

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<v Speaker 1>you something too, so you know it's so much ship

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<v Speaker 1>going on, Willie. Until I don't know if you got

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<v Speaker 1>the call or not. I don't know what's happening with

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<v Speaker 1>you on your side of it. Come on, bro, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't I don't know who handled your business.

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<v Speaker 1>And as a matter of if the Graham is called

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<v Speaker 1>about me, I didn't know that. I didn't even know

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<v Speaker 1>that the call was. I didn't even know that the

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<v Speaker 1>car was for sure until that Wednesday, that day you

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<v Speaker 1>knew if I did not know, Listen, let's say you

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<v Speaker 1>knew that day and and here's the thing. Okay, now, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>time out. I know every motherfucking thing. Now, how does

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<v Speaker 1>it change it? How does it change? It? Is? Over? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>What what what the motherfucker gave me? The whoever the

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<v Speaker 1>producer was, gave me four bars? That's it? Wait waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for bars? What was it? I think he did eight?

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<v Speaker 1>But in any event, in any event, that that's the

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<v Speaker 1>his I mean for measures. So how how how does

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<v Speaker 1>it change? How does it? You said? You said, how

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<v Speaker 1>does it change it? How does it change anything that

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about on a daily basis, Like we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about a lot of ship and how does this us

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<v Speaker 1>talking about what we talked about the changes what I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't I didn't know that I was doing my mind

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<v Speaker 1>playing tricks on me for one and for two, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I can do about it. Now the ship

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<v Speaker 1>is over with. Yeah, this ship, the ship is over with.

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<v Speaker 1>But the end, the end all, the end all is

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<v Speaker 1>for me two two, express to you how I felt

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<v Speaker 1>about the ship you did. That's not and you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>not just what you did. But the Grammys did the

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<v Speaker 1>dudes that the ship that I did, Willie, This is

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. So you don't think so you don't

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<v Speaker 1>see nothing wrong with going up on that stage and

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<v Speaker 1>performing a get old Boys song by yourself? You don't.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't see nothing wrong with that? Like hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on, hold on, And we're talking about we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about at the Grammys at you know, for a fifty

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<v Speaker 1>year tribute. Now listen, listen what I'm saying. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>let me let me say this all but let me

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<v Speaker 1>get you. But let me get this out. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>get this out now. I shouldn't have got I shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have got on the plane. I should have went to

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<v Speaker 1>the shouldn't have got on stage. I shouldn't have wrapped

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<v Speaker 1>that song. I shouldn't have walked off stage. And I

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<v Speaker 1>should got back on the plane and came home. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all my phone, bro, if you I'm gonna speak on

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<v Speaker 1>this though. Yeah, I'm gonna speak on this, so you

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<v Speaker 1>ain't finish. I'm so I'm so glad that they called

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<v Speaker 1>me Willie. I'm gonna speak. I'm so glad the quest

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<v Speaker 1>reached out to me to do that motherfucking song. Bro,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy about that. I'm glad people got a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to see me, man, because people don't really get this chance.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't really get a chance. That you're selfish. I

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<v Speaker 1>would have never done enough ship like well, I don't know, Bro,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have never I would have I would have

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<v Speaker 1>never done no ship like that. The moment was too big, Bro,

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<v Speaker 1>the moment was too big. I would have never done that.

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<v Speaker 1>And let me say this, but let me but let

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<v Speaker 1>me say this, Brad, I don't give let me say

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<v Speaker 1>let me chase it and let me finish. I really

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<v Speaker 1>don't give a funk about the Grammys. I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>about none of them, get keeping ass niggas, none of

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<v Speaker 1>that ship that they do. What I care about is

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<v Speaker 1>the ghetto boys. You know, Like when we decided to

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<v Speaker 1>do this podcast, I did this podcast for the for

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<v Speaker 1>the sake of the brand. I didn't do it to

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<v Speaker 1>say that. Okay, So I didn't do that. Actually, I

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<v Speaker 1>understand it was your idea to do it, but I

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<v Speaker 1>had to agree to it. So we're doing it by yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're doing this. But that's why it's called get

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<v Speaker 1>Old Boys, so I said, So, I said, Okay, the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why I had my I had my own podcast

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<v Speaker 1>ship going on already, it was already doing big numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>So so so I it took me. I built that brand.

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<v Speaker 1>I built the podcast brand will with Willie d Live.

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<v Speaker 1>I built that. And so when when we decided we

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna bring this do this right here, I brought

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<v Speaker 1>my audience like over here like this. So my thing

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<v Speaker 1>was like let's bring let's and and let's let's grow

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<v Speaker 1>this thing and keep keep our brand going, keep it strong,

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<v Speaker 1>keep it keep it going. You didn't have to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have to do this, but I did it

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<v Speaker 1>for the brand. You said you did it for the brand.

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<v Speaker 1>I take your word, but look, the thing is this,

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<v Speaker 1>in that situation where you have a fifty year tribute

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<v Speaker 1>to the gether to to to hip hop, you should

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<v Speaker 1>have done it for the brand. You should have said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, if you ain't gonna sunk with Will,

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't working with it. If it ain't, if Willy

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<v Speaker 1>ain't coming, I'm not. If they'd have called me the

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<v Speaker 1>roads were the verse, I don't give a funk but

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<v Speaker 1>what my level of success was as a solo artist,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the principle. I would not have done it without you.

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<v Speaker 1>I would not move like that without you. That ain't

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I didn't, and all honestly, I didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it was that fucking important. I'm just saying, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>let's know what I'm saying. I didn't really feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it was that important for whoever did the motherfucker I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. It's not a big deal to me. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been it's been times, and like, do you remember the

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<v Speaker 1>last time you did um when when we were supposed

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<v Speaker 1>when you did them the Dome, the rodeo. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do that, you know why. Yeah, but you had that choice. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't do what It was your choice. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do it. It was your choice. You decided you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do it because you didn't want to do what you did.

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<v Speaker 1>You was given a choice, but you did it. I

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<v Speaker 1>did it because I was giving a choice. We we communicate,

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<v Speaker 1>remember from day one, when we found when you found out,

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<v Speaker 1>I found out, We got on the phone and we communicated.

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<v Speaker 1>So we didn't do that with this. That was a

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<v Speaker 1>big moment. No, that was That was a big moment.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was just the biggest moment in music history.

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<v Speaker 1>That was it was the best, biggest was a big moment,

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<v Speaker 1>Willie and I didn't do that moment because you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>you too, okay, because you didn't know. But you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>give me. But I didn't happen if they didn't call you?

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<v Speaker 1>What what you want? What you wanted me to do?

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<v Speaker 1>So you wouldn't stand up for your dog want? Why

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<v Speaker 1>did why did up? Why? They got the comment I

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<v Speaker 1>told you to do the fucking show? What do it?

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't say you couldn't do what you said? You

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't do it, Okay, well I could. That's a difference.

0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:45.240
<v Speaker 1>They wouldn't do it. That's difference. But you did it.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, bro, you really the same thing. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>false equivalencyt bro. Come on, you ain't stupid. You know

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<v Speaker 1>this ship, brod, I can't say that this. You know that. Bro,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the same thing. Come on, man, you know that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was that choice, bro. But you know what

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<v Speaker 1>you could have done if you felt some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>way about me doing it because you don't want to

0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:09.760
<v Speaker 1>do you know what you could have done. You could

0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:12.160
<v Speaker 1>have voiced your opinion, say well, I don't think you

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<v Speaker 1>should funk with it in the name of the brand.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you should do it. So if we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be on the same page, we get old boys.

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<v Speaker 1>If you get old boys, it's ghetto boys. You know, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you got your own ship going in your own right

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<v Speaker 1>and you're all right. You did a great job for

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<v Speaker 1>yourself as a solo artist. You did a great people.

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<v Speaker 1>But listen what I'm saying. But every like you did

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<v Speaker 1>your ship, I did my ship, you know, saying your

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<v Speaker 1>name is strong and and and for what you do,

0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:39.720
<v Speaker 1>My my ship is strong for what I do. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, neither of us need each other

0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:45.000
<v Speaker 1>when we come together with more powerful We know that

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<v Speaker 1>we know the Ghetto Boys. We know that the Ghetto

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<v Speaker 1>Boys brand is more powerful. Neither one of us, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter how much success we've attained all these years, neither

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<v Speaker 1>one of us brand and and and and and and

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<v Speaker 1>and and the fact did not go out on television

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<v Speaker 1>and shipped on this brand. Okay, I didn't shoot on it.

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<v Speaker 1>I represented it. And if you feel like it was

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be Ghetto Boys, then we'll address that. But

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<v Speaker 1>how can you not feel like it was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be Ghetto boys? If you do a Ghetto Boys song

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground, you know, on on stage at the

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<v Speaker 1>on the biggest platform in music, how can you not

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it's a Ghetto Boys moment? So now you

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<v Speaker 1>reverse everything back to me. That's it's it's not that

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<v Speaker 1>it's not that the Grammys didn't call you to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that they called me to do it. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>understand It's it's no, it's that we didn't do it. I

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<v Speaker 1>I don't give a funk who they called. It's that

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't do it together. It don't matter who they called.

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<v Speaker 1>Brad if they called me, you're gonna know if they

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<v Speaker 1>called you, I should have known. Well that's the point, Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So I take full responsibility. Ghetto Boys Reloaded podcast will

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<v Speaker 1>be right back after the street. You know when I

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<v Speaker 1>when I made that video, Bro, I made the video

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<v Speaker 1>because like, I don't even feel comfortable like having these

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<v Speaker 1>type of this type of discussion with you to them,

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<v Speaker 1>because I know a lot of them don't give a

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<v Speaker 1>funk about you or me. They just talk ship. They

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<v Speaker 1>got a few seconds to think about what they wanted,

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<v Speaker 1>what they think about what we're talking about, and they

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<v Speaker 1>be and that's it. They're gone, and they they drop

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<v Speaker 1>a bomb and they just turn their back and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't give a funk what happened after that. Don't care

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<v Speaker 1>how what happened with our relationship. Don't you funk about

0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:34.120
<v Speaker 1>get old boys like that. They're not they're not invested

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So when the motherfucker say something like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I didn't see it being such a big

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<v Speaker 1>deal that he wasn't on stage or whatever scar face

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<v Speaker 1>represented whatever, that's because your motherfuckering ass ain't put thirty

0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:48.160
<v Speaker 1>three years in the game. You know, you ain't set

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<v Speaker 1>up in the motherfucking studio, writing songs and and and

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<v Speaker 1>thinking and and and and stressing over ship and beefing

0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:57.320
<v Speaker 1>and bumping heads with with with with motherfucker's that's in

0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:59.160
<v Speaker 1>your in your band. You ain't been on the road

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<v Speaker 1>when the mother bust broke down, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>You ain't been a mother You didn't go to motherfucking

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<v Speaker 1>New York for the first time and got booed and

0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.359
<v Speaker 1>didn't have to come back and build yourself all the

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<v Speaker 1>way back up and come back and sell out Madison

0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Square Garden. You don't have to do nothing. You ain't

0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:13.720
<v Speaker 1>went through none of that, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So you don't know the journey. You ain't part of

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<v Speaker 1>the journey. You ain't got the blood, sweat and the

0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:20.040
<v Speaker 1>tears and the work in So you don't have as

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<v Speaker 1>much invested in this ship as I have in it.

0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:26.560
<v Speaker 1>And other people who were who would not represent it

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<v Speaker 1>right in that grammar situation. You know what they should

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<v Speaker 1>have done for that moment. They should have not have

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<v Speaker 1>done it, because you cannot represent fifty years of hip

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<v Speaker 1>hop in fourteen minutes. That ship should have been on

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<v Speaker 1>his own platform. Fuck the Grammars. The Grammars ain't big

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<v Speaker 1>enough to hold hip hop. Hip Hop is bigger than

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<v Speaker 1>the Grammys. It's way bigger than the ground. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>agree with you on that they should not have done that.

0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:52.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm you know, if that hip that hip hop and

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<v Speaker 1>four team and it's a twelve minutes and having long,

0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:57.520
<v Speaker 1>it was like it needs way more time. But what

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<v Speaker 1>I what? I what? What? What I wouldn't do is

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<v Speaker 1>be upset because you weren't know on it. I wouldn't know.

0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be upset with is Dale so upset at pause,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I haven't talked to Okay, well is

0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:12.400
<v Speaker 1>wul Tane Clan upset at method Man, I don't know, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>But don't be upset at me for going up there

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<v Speaker 1>with this. This is this is us, This is okay, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's going on with Andre and and

0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:24.280
<v Speaker 1>and and and and and and Big Boy. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what's going on with Pons and all these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's going on. What's what I'm saying? I

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<v Speaker 1>just said, I take full responsibility for going up there

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<v Speaker 1>and representing this brand, all right. I did that. I

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<v Speaker 1>did the funk out of that, And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>people love that song even more so now you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. Well, I think because I think they

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<v Speaker 1>love it even more so now, Willie, because they've seen

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<v Speaker 1>it done again. Maybe that's how you feel about it,

0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:54.760
<v Speaker 1>and maybe that's what you heard people say. But and

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard both ways. I've heard people say, yeah, you

0:18:57.200 --> 0:18:59.720
<v Speaker 1>represented and warm, but I've all had so heard people

0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:02.360
<v Speaker 1>feel like they were robbed. I heard many people say

0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:05.199
<v Speaker 1>they felt raw. I heard many people say I was

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<v Speaker 1>looking at In fact, my god daughter watched the show

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<v Speaker 1>with her mother and her mother told me, uh, she

0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:14.040
<v Speaker 1>knew it was coming show was coming on. She didn't

0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:15.440
<v Speaker 1>know what was going on, but she knew the show

0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:17.960
<v Speaker 1>was coming on. So she was watching the show and

0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:23.040
<v Speaker 1>she said that she wanted to surprise her and she said, oh,

0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:25.520
<v Speaker 1>that's car face and she got all excited and ship

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<v Speaker 1>and she said, oh, Zancho will coming out and Zanco

0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:31.199
<v Speaker 1>will coming s is it? And she was just no,

0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:33.800
<v Speaker 1>uncle will see. So so that might be cool with

0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:36.320
<v Speaker 1>you and the people that you heard from, but that's

0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:38.160
<v Speaker 1>other people out there who felt like that they were

0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:41.720
<v Speaker 1>robbed from that, that that that experience. It's other people

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<v Speaker 1>you know your kids. I'm sure your kids were proud

0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:47.280
<v Speaker 1>of you to see daddy on that stage like that,

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<v Speaker 1>on the stage that be I'm sure your kids were

0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:52.760
<v Speaker 1>very proud of you, and they should be. But my

0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:55.680
<v Speaker 1>kids were robbed of that opportunity to see their dad

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<v Speaker 1>on that stage and in a moment in time for

0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:04.000
<v Speaker 1>or a genre of music that he heavily contributed to. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I may not have built the motherfucking room in that

0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:09.440
<v Speaker 1>motherfucking Matsion, but I put some goddamn paint on the wall,

0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:12.040
<v Speaker 1>and the calls it somewhere. I gotta break in that

0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:15.600
<v Speaker 1>motherfucker somewhere that can't be denied because if you look

0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:18.879
<v Speaker 1>at this fucking music that we did, you know you

0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:21.360
<v Speaker 1>wrote your verses. I wrote my verses. You wrote song

0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:24.000
<v Speaker 1>for Bill. I wrote most for Bill. So most of

0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:25.880
<v Speaker 1>the ship that came out of Bill Moth came out

0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:28.760
<v Speaker 1>of my head first. So a motherfucker can't say they

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<v Speaker 1>love ghetto boys what I love and Willie d That's

0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:35.239
<v Speaker 1>that's disingenuous, you know, Like I deserved to be on

0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:38.000
<v Speaker 1>that motherfucking stage just like other people deserve to be

0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:41.160
<v Speaker 1>on there. But like I said, I can't fight their battles.

0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:42.600
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. I can only speak on

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<v Speaker 1>my ship, And I just felt like if if it

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<v Speaker 1>was me, if the shoe was on the other foot,

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<v Speaker 1>I absolutely would have represented you also. I would have

0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:53.960
<v Speaker 1>included you. First time I got a call, it would

0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:56.239
<v Speaker 1>have been yo, man. The Grahams wanted what you wanna do?

0:20:57.040 --> 0:20:58.919
<v Speaker 1>That's how I've always done you any time I've gotten call.

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<v Speaker 1>But I didn't. I didn't get the I didn't get

0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:07.720
<v Speaker 1>the call Willie. I didn't get the ghetto boys call. Okay, alright,

0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:10.840
<v Speaker 1>but and and and and and let me finish. They

0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:14.160
<v Speaker 1>could have called me to do any one of my songs,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, So why you didn't do it? Because that

0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:20.199
<v Speaker 1>wasn't the way that they had it set up in

0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:23.480
<v Speaker 1>the in the in the show, they had already been

0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:26.520
<v Speaker 1>practicing this ship. I didn't know until I got the

0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:29.440
<v Speaker 1>rehearsal world. What were they practiced. There was practicing my plan.

0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:31.880
<v Speaker 1>It was practicing all of that ship, and they all

0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:35.040
<v Speaker 1>that ship ran on together. But they did my mind's

0:21:35.040 --> 0:21:37.879
<v Speaker 1>playing tricks. The fact that they did my mind's playing

0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:40.800
<v Speaker 1>tricks tells me they wanted ghetto boys. That's what it.

0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they wanted something that you did you call them.

0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:46.520
<v Speaker 1>That sounds that you called them and actually called the

0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:50.280
<v Speaker 1>executive producers. But he but he didn't called me back.

0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I actually called him several times and I finally said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, let me let's leave a message, let

0:21:55.840 --> 0:21:57.960
<v Speaker 1>me let me, let me shoot him a text. And

0:21:58.000 --> 0:22:01.200
<v Speaker 1>he never returned my call. You see. And I also

0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:04.960
<v Speaker 1>called Questen. Let me back up. I didn't call a

0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:07.080
<v Speaker 1>quest I had somebody else puts the calls into him.

0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:10.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, he never called me back. You know a

0:22:10.560 --> 0:22:12.639
<v Speaker 1>few other people who was involved. And I get it,

0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:14.880
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. I'm sure they ain't calling

0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:17.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people back right now. I'm sure a

0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:19.960
<v Speaker 1>whole lot of people as fiss, which which this is

0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:23.560
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Man Like, for a while, we had

0:22:23.600 --> 0:22:26.480
<v Speaker 1>to deal with gatekeepers in hip hop. They did not

0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:29.280
<v Speaker 1>want us to be involved in this thing called music.

0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:34.760
<v Speaker 1>I remember a time when I would go to the

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<v Speaker 1>clubs and that was only one club in Houston that

0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:42.560
<v Speaker 1>would play hip hop, and that was the Ryan Stone Rankler.

0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Every other club pride of itself on not playing hip hop.

0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:50.359
<v Speaker 1>And I remember black people, specifically with brag about how they, oh,

0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't wrap, I don't listen to that, and they

0:22:52.800 --> 0:22:55.600
<v Speaker 1>be all snobby about listening to wrap. I don't even

0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:57.879
<v Speaker 1>listen to hip hop. I don't listen. They thought that

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<v Speaker 1>that was some kind of some type of badge of honor,

0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:04.160
<v Speaker 1>to not listen to hip hop, the music of the children,

0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:06.240
<v Speaker 1>to not listen to it, to not respect them, to

0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:08.320
<v Speaker 1>not know it. You know, they thought that was a

0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:11.639
<v Speaker 1>badge of honor. I remember going to the Bars nightclub

0:23:12.280 --> 0:23:16.200
<v Speaker 1>and pushing up on the DJ and telling the DJ

0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:21.040
<v Speaker 1>play this song that song. Gangster Love played the song.

0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:24.000
<v Speaker 1>The DJ said, I can't play it. I'm gonna lose

0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:27.280
<v Speaker 1>my job. I remember telling that DJ, you want to

0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:28.920
<v Speaker 1>lose your job or you want to lose your teeth.

0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:32.760
<v Speaker 1>I did that for for for for the culture. That's

0:23:32.760 --> 0:23:34.480
<v Speaker 1>the type of ship I put the work, kind of

0:23:34.480 --> 0:23:37.919
<v Speaker 1>work I put in And dude did not play the

0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:41.200
<v Speaker 1>play the record at that moment, but he said come

0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:43.560
<v Speaker 1>back and I play it. We came right back and

0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:47.080
<v Speaker 1>stood over his ass. They had and they had their

0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:48.800
<v Speaker 1>people in that, and I had a whole bunch of

0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:50.879
<v Speaker 1>people in that and they was like, they put that

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:54.120
<v Speaker 1>goddamn song on and only two people got on the floor.

0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:58.199
<v Speaker 1>They d asked the gamester love two people. But that

0:23:58.320 --> 0:24:00.720
<v Speaker 1>was a start. Now you can't go to a club

0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:04.000
<v Speaker 1>in Houston without playing hip hop without listening to hip hop.

0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:07.440
<v Speaker 1>You can't go nowhere. And people take that ship for granted.

0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:11.800
<v Speaker 1>They think like this ship just miraculously happened all by itself,

0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:16.240
<v Speaker 1>like boom poom poof this ship is happening. No, I

0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:18.840
<v Speaker 1>put real work in bro so I deserve to be

0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:21.160
<v Speaker 1>on that motherfucking stage as much to anybody. But again,

0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:24.760
<v Speaker 1>like I said, we we we had the gatekeepers at

0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:28.000
<v Speaker 1>one point, and now hip hop is old enough to

0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:30.960
<v Speaker 1>where some of us are gatekeepers. And some of us

0:24:31.040 --> 0:24:35.480
<v Speaker 1>who are gatekeepers now have decided that we are going

0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:38.240
<v Speaker 1>to keep others who are in the culture outside of

0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:42.639
<v Speaker 1>the culture the longest rearing. It's all good. Some of

0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:46.360
<v Speaker 1>us are keeping our own people out of the culture,

0:24:46.640 --> 0:24:50.479
<v Speaker 1>out of certain experiences because of whatever issues that they

0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:53.879
<v Speaker 1>might have. And if you ain't gonna do this ship right,

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:57.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking to all you motherfucker's out there, all your

0:24:57.200 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 1>motherfucker's producing hip hop blog and are putting ship out.

0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:04.040
<v Speaker 1>If you if you out there and you're showing love

0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:05.679
<v Speaker 1>and you're doing it the right way, I salute you.

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:07.880
<v Speaker 1>I salute you like a motherfucker's I know how hard

0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:10.280
<v Speaker 1>it is, But if you're trying to hustle the game,

0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:14.600
<v Speaker 1>if you're trying to hustle hip hop, if you're throwing ship,

0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:19.000
<v Speaker 1>throwing ship together and not showing the proper respect for

0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:22.360
<v Speaker 1>the number one genre of music in the game period,

0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:27.760
<v Speaker 1>ain't nobody fucking with us, including country We surpassed everybody.

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:31.119
<v Speaker 1>If you're not gonna give us I respect, don't funk

0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:35.320
<v Speaker 1>with us, get your mother fucking ass gone, don't funk

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:38.480
<v Speaker 1>with us at all, don't don't try to give us,

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:42.359
<v Speaker 1>don't throw throw together some fourteen minutes ship and put

0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:45.480
<v Speaker 1>fifty years of hip hop in the side of fourteen

0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:48.920
<v Speaker 1>minutes and think we're supposed to be grateful. We're not

0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be grateful, man. We're We're the number one

0:25:52.400 --> 0:25:55.800
<v Speaker 1>genre of music. We deserve more than that ship, bro.

0:25:56.240 --> 0:26:00.240
<v Speaker 1>And it's not just disappointing, it's heartbreaking, bro, you know

0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:03.320
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. It's like, it's the ship is heartbreaking

0:26:03.840 --> 0:26:07.040
<v Speaker 1>because they don't respect us, and I feel like we

0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:10.960
<v Speaker 1>don't respect ourselves enough to demand more. They would have

0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 1>never done that to rock and roll, never done some

0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:17.680
<v Speaker 1>ship like that for country music, they would have gave

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:21.760
<v Speaker 1>them motherfucker's a whole show by themselves. It would have

0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:26.960
<v Speaker 1>never been fourteen minutes of eighty years of country, ninety

0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:29.280
<v Speaker 1>years of rock and roll. They would have never done

0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:32.320
<v Speaker 1>no ship like that. They shifted on us because we

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:36.080
<v Speaker 1>don't demand more of ourselves, and we gotta stand on something, man.

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:39.160
<v Speaker 1>But we gotta have principles. We gotta stand on those principles. Man.

0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:41.560
<v Speaker 1>We can't just say, oh, well, you know what I'm saying.

0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:45.560
<v Speaker 1>It's people that have have fucking built this ship for real,

0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:49.560
<v Speaker 1>and and some of us that have built it. I'm

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:52.359
<v Speaker 1>fortunate enough to be doing good, unfortunate enough to be

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:56.520
<v Speaker 1>doing well financially for myself. But there are others who

0:26:56.520 --> 0:27:00.080
<v Speaker 1>are not doing so well who built this ship, and

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 1>and we shipped on them, and we try to call

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 1>him bummy. We try to say that they don't they

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:07.360
<v Speaker 1>ain't got no money, or they fucked it up, they

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:09.560
<v Speaker 1>sucked the bag up and all this ship. Instead of

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:11.439
<v Speaker 1>being appreciative and saying, you know what what can we

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:15.760
<v Speaker 1>do to help out? You know what can we do? Were?

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 1>You know? We we we gotta do better. Yeah, Willie

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:29.959
<v Speaker 1>in in in my opinion that um, that segment of

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:36.359
<v Speaker 1>that show was big. Man. It was huge, and regardless

0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:40.920
<v Speaker 1>of how you feel about it, man, it just let

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:46.119
<v Speaker 1>the those twelve million of having many viewers see hip hop.

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 1>You know that, uh, what you thought was a fat

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:54.000
<v Speaker 1>turned into the biggest genre of music ever. They already

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:56.159
<v Speaker 1>know that, brad okay, but they thought it was but

0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:59.560
<v Speaker 1>they thought that was a fan. But but now now

0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:03.919
<v Speaker 1>now it's in your face. You know, fifty years of

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 1>this ship and and and it's fifty more to go.

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:11.160
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. You know, you should have been there.

0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 1>I should have called you, but I shouldn't have opted

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 1>out not to do it if you didn't come. You

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:21.720
<v Speaker 1>see what I'm saying, like to to to do my mind?

0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Playing tricks on the Grammars catapulted us to a whole

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:28.920
<v Speaker 1>another level. Bro. I think, I know, I know that,

0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:31.400
<v Speaker 1>I know. The face value of it, to be seen

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:35.120
<v Speaker 1>on the motherfucker is one thing. But the song, as

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:38.840
<v Speaker 1>historical as that song is, man, it's it's here, it's

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 1>still here. And I don't know, Willie, you would have

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:46.680
<v Speaker 1>probably got up on that motherfucker and did the same

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 1>thing you did at the baseball park. Man, and it's

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 1>mother fucking long, no no different when you got directions, Bro,

0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 1>the right directions, but right instructions. But but I would say,

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Bro that there is there is no way possible. I

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 1>don't It's nobody who can convince me that that was

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 1>the right move because, like I said, the moment was

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 1>too big. The moment was too big. It's like it's

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 1>like somebody, it's like somebody doing doing um doing something

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 1>with they're recognizing the record labels of hip hop, the

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 1>greatest labels, and Ship and and Jay not being invited,

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:37.240
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, or master P not being invited,

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 1>which by the way, I didn't see master P on

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 1>that stage either. I don't know what happened. Like I said,

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:44.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know people's personal issues, well business, but I

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 1>know ain't no way Masterpiece should not have been on

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 1>that stage. There's no way possible with with with what

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 1>he contributed, what he brought to the table. Yeah, yeah,

0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:59.240
<v Speaker 1>Modi you know what I'm saying. You know, uh, Ship Houdini.

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, like we could go on and on and

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:03.600
<v Speaker 1>on and so people, but this is why they should

0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 1>not have half as did it, you know, like show

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 1>us give us our real respect. J J fad. You

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, Like, give us the real respect.

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I know Q probably didn't, didn't didn't, he'd probably turned

0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 1>it down because I'm sure they called que But in

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:20.560
<v Speaker 1>any event, I don't know what happened. I don't know,

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:24.960
<v Speaker 1>but I'm just saying that they the respect was not there.

0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 1>And this is and this indicative of how often that

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 1>we allow motherfucker's to just you know, steamroll us man,

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:36.600
<v Speaker 1>and and and put us in this little box, this

0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:40.440
<v Speaker 1>little Just be lucky. Just be grateful that you got that.

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Just be happy that you got fourteen minutes. Just be now,

0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 1>we're beyond that. If this was if they had given

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 1>hip hop fourteen minutes twenty years ago, years ago, Okay,

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 1>that's understandable, because they didn't. We we we were knew,

0:30:57.120 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 1>we knew this thing years ago. Fine, but dude, we're

0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 1>fifty years deep and we're the best at what we're

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 1>the best. We'll let me put it like this, because

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 1>being the best is suggestive, uh subjective, But we are

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:12.640
<v Speaker 1>number one. We are the number one genre of of

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 1>of music. We sell the most. We're killing everybody. Ain't

0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:19.000
<v Speaker 1>nobody fucking with the hip hop. You can say what

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 1>you want to say about it, but hip hop is

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 1>number one. Go to any club anywhere in the world

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:29.760
<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna hear some hip hop. So it needs

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 1>to be respected and we need to demand more of ourselves.

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 1>And we should not hustle the brand. We should not

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 1>hustle the the the the brand of hip hop, the

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 1>brand of hip hop. We should not hustle that. You know, No,

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 1>we should not allow people to hustle it, not even

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 1>the people that are inside. It's almost like those gate

0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 1>black gate keepers who who ran the Grammys, who produced

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:54.239
<v Speaker 1>the Grammys, who was a part of those decisions making? Uh,

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 1>those that decision making. To me, it's a kind to

0:31:57.160 --> 0:32:01.280
<v Speaker 1>having a black mayor or black chief of police and

0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 1>black people are still getting catching the blues in their city.

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>We got a black chief, we got symbolism, but we

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:11.680
<v Speaker 1>what we don't have is, uh, we don't have a

0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 1>fast shape, we don't have a fact, we don't we

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:16.720
<v Speaker 1>don't have a level playing field. We're still not getting

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:19.800
<v Speaker 1>our justice. But even though we have a black chief

0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 1>of police, look at what happens in Memphis. You got

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 1>a black chief of police, you got all these black

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 1>officers and not one of them had the presence of

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:30.680
<v Speaker 1>mind to show some humanity, to show some empathy for this,

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:37.160
<v Speaker 1>for this man, not one. It's fucked up, bro, you

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. It's fucked up. So we talked

0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:41.720
<v Speaker 1>about how you know, we should be on the inside

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 1>and we need to have our own ship, and when

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 1>we get our opportunity like that, we don't. We don't

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 1>look out for each other, you know what I'm saying.

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>So that's that's that's my issue, bro, that's my issue.

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:54.200
<v Speaker 1>And it can't nobody telling me that that was the

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 1>right move. And people got their own opinions and all

0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:59.320
<v Speaker 1>that ship. But like I said, they didn't do this ship.

0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:01.640
<v Speaker 1>They ain't put thirty three years and like I did,

0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm on thirty four right now. So they didn't put

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 1>that thirty you're on thirty four. They didn't do that.

0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. We did that, and we

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 1>should share in the glory, you know what I'm saying.

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 1>If we're gonna we're gonna, if we're gonna be there

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 1>for for for the agony, you know, if we're gonna

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:21.080
<v Speaker 1>be there for for the for the for the mis

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:24.600
<v Speaker 1>qs and and the and the uh and and and

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 1>and and and the trauma and the drama. We should

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 1>be there for the triumphs, you know what I'm saying,

0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 1>and the accolades as a group, not as a member.

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:37.040
<v Speaker 1>And I gotta say, you don't need I'm gonna reiterate

0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 1>that and reiterate that you don't need ghetto boys. I

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 1>don't need ghetto boys. But if we're gonna do get

0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 1>oo boys, let's do ghetto boys. And that's why I

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:46.960
<v Speaker 1>want to say, I want to make sure that every

0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 1>all these mother because I here know that don't be

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 1>trying to hustle our brand. And you ain't, including me

0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 1>and Brad, don't try to hustle our motherfucking brand because

0:33:56.000 --> 0:33:58.479
<v Speaker 1>I ain't going forward. I ain't letting a ship slide.

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm gonna speak on the ship. I don't

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 1>like this whole, this whole podcast. That's the part. The

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:09.920
<v Speaker 1>piece that I don't like about this podcast ship is

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:14.279
<v Speaker 1>that you know, this thing was done in a way

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 1>where I had no choice but to speak on this.

0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:21.440
<v Speaker 1>This is typically something that we would discuss in private

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 1>because we've had our grinds to you know, gripes and

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 1>ship in the past. But We've always addressed our ship personally,

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 1>this really ain't no ship. They need to be hearing.

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 1>But since it was addressed in a public forum, then

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I had to you know, it was the the transgression

0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:42.920
<v Speaker 1>aggression in my opinion, was done publicly, then you know

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:47.239
<v Speaker 1>the rebuttal had to be done. You know, it had

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:50.120
<v Speaker 1>to be addressed publicly. So you know, that's why I'm

0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:56.400
<v Speaker 1>at with brooted podcast. Will be right back after the

0:34:55.160 --> 0:35:05.360
<v Speaker 1>set well and and and really I understand that, but

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:08.399
<v Speaker 1>you just understand that it wasn't my call to make.

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:12.640
<v Speaker 1>It was at the end of the day, Like I said,

0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:14.759
<v Speaker 1>you could have said, no, I'm not working with it

0:35:15.160 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, no matter what they say.

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 1>At the end of the day, you could have said,

0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not fucking with it. If I'm not taking this

0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 1>dude that I sit here and do that Ghet Old

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:28.799
<v Speaker 1>Boys podcast with every morning, I'm not gonna do it.

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:31.960
<v Speaker 1>And here's another thing, Brad, we are for renewal on

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:37.239
<v Speaker 1>this podcast. We're doing this podcast together. It's Ghettold Boys podcast.

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't it have made more sense, wouldn't it would have

0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:43.799
<v Speaker 1>been a what's what greater selling point than to go

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 1>get the bag than to than than for them to

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:51.840
<v Speaker 1>see Ghetto Boys on that biggest stage together, the dudes

0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:55.680
<v Speaker 1>that do this podcast together, that host this podcast together.

0:35:56.440 --> 0:35:59.360
<v Speaker 1>What what what greater argument we could have had to

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:02.440
<v Speaker 1>get the bag then then to be on that motherfucking

0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:05.759
<v Speaker 1>stage together, and and and and call the motherfucker the

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:07.319
<v Speaker 1>next day and say, yeah, you so, what were we doing?

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:12.160
<v Speaker 1>You like that ship all? I dropped that bad Willie.

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:14.719
<v Speaker 1>There ain't a better selling point. It's it's a hell

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 1>of a selling point, but it's still a selling point

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:20.959
<v Speaker 1>though it ain't strong, bro, it's just not as strong. Well,

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we we agree to disagree. I think that

0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 1>it's just as strong, and I think it's just as

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:33.560
<v Speaker 1>sucking strong because it was representing very well. If it's

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:38.600
<v Speaker 1>just as strong, why do we do this podcast together? Why? Why? Why? Why?

0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Why aren't you doing this podcast by yourself? Why aren't

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:45.560
<v Speaker 1>I doing this podcast by myself? Because we're stronger together.

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:49.280
<v Speaker 1>But that's why, that's the same thing on that stage.

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:51.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't give a funk how many hits you got.

0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:53.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't care how great these niggas thank you are

0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:58.840
<v Speaker 1>or how great you are when you funk with that

0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Ghetto Boys ship. It's a different level. It's a different

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:06.680
<v Speaker 1>motherfucking level. Can nobody tell me different. I've seen it

0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 1>with my own eyes for thirty three years. It's a

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:13.520
<v Speaker 1>different level, and you know it, so that cannot be denied.

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:16.000
<v Speaker 1>The reason why we do this motherfucker together, it's called

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:20.359
<v Speaker 1>get old Boys reloaded, because we're stronger together. You can

0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:23.160
<v Speaker 1>do this motherfucker by yourself and it'll get numbers. I

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:25.840
<v Speaker 1>can do it by myself, you'll get numbers. But together,

0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:32.360
<v Speaker 1>the motherfucker it's unstoppable, exactly, And I agree with that too.

0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:37.240
<v Speaker 1>But the brand was still represenced, somebody said, But usually

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:43.279
<v Speaker 1>everything that comes after that is, yeah, the brand is

0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 1>still represented. Well, Willie trust me, ask him, don't take mine,

0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:51.400
<v Speaker 1>don't take mine, don't don't don't take my word for it,

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 1>asked the public. You know. Yeah, it would have been

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 1>stronger with you there, but it was still represented very well. Bro.

0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:00.320
<v Speaker 1>I didn't miss you. I didn't miss no word words.

0:38:00.400 --> 0:38:05.839
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. It was still there when you and all

0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I can say. All I can say is, man, I

0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 1>show hate you feel like that because that was a

0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:16.160
<v Speaker 1>big gass moment, all right, But the next time they

0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:20.759
<v Speaker 1>do it and they call you and they don't call me. Man, Okay,

0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:24.239
<v Speaker 1>they they gotta call somebody first. That ain't the point.

0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:27.319
<v Speaker 1>It ain't who they call, it's what happens after they

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 1>make the call. Do you call me and say they

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 1>mentioned ghetto boys, they won't get oo boys? But I

0:38:32.280 --> 0:38:35.080
<v Speaker 1>call you and say they won't get Oo boys. I will.

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:39.399
<v Speaker 1>That's a fact that they didn't. Never say never got

0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:41.640
<v Speaker 1>a call. I never got a call for getto Boys

0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:43.759
<v Speaker 1>and not called you. I never got a call for

0:38:43.800 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 1>getto Boys and not called you. I'll take your word

0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:49.160
<v Speaker 1>for it. I don't believe you. But do you think

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:51.160
<v Speaker 1>I gotta call for get God? Damn right? I think

0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:59.359
<v Speaker 1>you gotta cover before huh yeah, damn Willie? You think

0:38:59.400 --> 0:39:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I gotta get a call for ghetto boys on? Man? Listen, listen, listen,

0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:05.319
<v Speaker 1>bro come on listen man. I'm gonna stop you right there,

0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:08.279
<v Speaker 1>my nigga, because I ain't never got no motherfucking call

0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:11.319
<v Speaker 1>from no ghetto boys, and I called you ever and

0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I never will. As a matter of fact, we don't

0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:19.120
<v Speaker 1>even have the same people controlling our ship, man, you

0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:20.920
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? Like, I got a totally different

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:23.600
<v Speaker 1>manager than you, so I'm probably not gonna never get

0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:27.280
<v Speaker 1>no call, no way forget Oh Boys. But if somebody

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:29.520
<v Speaker 1>called me directly and say they want to Ghetto Boys,

0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 1>most definitely gonna call you. Okay, So let me break

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:39.319
<v Speaker 1>it down. So over the years, as we put out

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:46.279
<v Speaker 1>these albums, every time we put out a Ghetto Boys album,

0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 1>you put out a scar face album right behind it.

0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:54.040
<v Speaker 1>It's easy to look up if you see the frown.

0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 1>But that's a scar face album that comes out right

0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 1>after ghetto boy album every time. Who who did that? Me?

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Brad Jordan? Yeah, but I put out an album, look

0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:06.520
<v Speaker 1>it up. Yeah, you put out alm after get Oo

0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:08.799
<v Speaker 1>Boys every time. So when we go out on the road,

0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:12.160
<v Speaker 1>we got that doing five six shows or whatever, m

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:16.840
<v Speaker 1>and then you know, the promotion stops. We stopped promoting,

0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:20.479
<v Speaker 1>we stopped doing shows. You take your break, you drop

0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:22.160
<v Speaker 1>your album, and then you go out and do all

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:25.160
<v Speaker 1>the shows. So you're saying that a motherfucker. Don't they

0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:28.520
<v Speaker 1>never called you and said, yo, man, what about Ghetto Boys? No,

0:40:29.800 --> 0:40:31.480
<v Speaker 1>and you and you just said, now, I ain't doing

0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Getto Boys. I'm doing myself, doing my own ship. No,

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 1>they ain't never called me and said Ghetto Boys, I

0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:40.000
<v Speaker 1>don't believe yet, well, then talk to you. Talked to

0:40:40.080 --> 0:40:43.439
<v Speaker 1>Dub you know, actually was man and managing me back

0:40:43.440 --> 0:40:47.319
<v Speaker 1>when we were doing that, calling you better. And if

0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:49.799
<v Speaker 1>I if I ever dropped the album behind ghetto boys,

0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I dropped it on rapp a lot, all right, remember that?

0:40:54.800 --> 0:40:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Don't you ever forget that? Oh, I can't forget what

0:40:57.400 --> 0:40:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't. I would never, I wouldn't never do nothing

0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:04.760
<v Speaker 1>to try to advotage your ship, Willie. Ever, it doesn't

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:09.719
<v Speaker 1>benefit me to sabotage you. Man, What I look like

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 1>trying to sabotage you? Man, you look like Brad Jordan.

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Then con countibleize, cannibalize your project. You look like Brad

0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Jordan to me, to countible like some ship Brad Jordon

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:24.280
<v Speaker 1>might do, because I know Brad Jordan as motherfucking sneaky

0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:26.759
<v Speaker 1>ass nigger, and I know Brad Jordan will do some

0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:30.120
<v Speaker 1>sneaky ship if you have to. I know that, I

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:34.399
<v Speaker 1>know Brad Jordan do a lot of thinking right there.

0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:36.880
<v Speaker 1>You'll never have to worry about me doing to you,

0:41:37.640 --> 0:41:41.879
<v Speaker 1>all right that part? Oh yeah, I'm a deep ass thinking.

0:41:41.960 --> 0:41:47.759
<v Speaker 1>But I would never cannibalize your projects ever. As a

0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:53.080
<v Speaker 1>matter of fact, Man, I Mario. You gotta you got

0:41:53.160 --> 0:41:55.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of tech to testing in. Man, you got

0:41:55.680 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 1>some ship. Come hook this dude up. Bro, come dude,

0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:06.840
<v Speaker 1>William do some ship like that. Man. One thing about it, man, Bro,

0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:08.959
<v Speaker 1>I'm calling a strike a striking a ball the ball

0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:13.200
<v Speaker 1>and I and I'm I've always you know, like I

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:17.160
<v Speaker 1>think I've actually put the brand before myself too many times.

0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:19.400
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. I haven't been selfish enough. Actually,

0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:22.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, I put the Ghetto Boys brand before my

0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:26.439
<v Speaker 1>my brand many times. If when I when we've done

0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:28.160
<v Speaker 1>records and ship and it's time to do it, I

0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:30.040
<v Speaker 1>could be working on some solo ship and we did,

0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:32.640
<v Speaker 1>get ready to do get old boy album. Whatever I got,

0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:37.160
<v Speaker 1>it's going to get Old Boys. It's immediately. Like it's

0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:39.439
<v Speaker 1>because I'm always like, okay, best for far. But whatever

0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:42.080
<v Speaker 1>I got, you know, And like I said, bro, you

0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:45.399
<v Speaker 1>you you've done, You've done well for yourself. Bro, I'm

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:48.239
<v Speaker 1>not I'm not that dude. Like you know what I'm saying,

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm it's for me. It's the principle. Like so

0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:53.520
<v Speaker 1>it's not about being no fucking I hate uh being

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:55.640
<v Speaker 1>no jealous because when you win. To me, it's like

0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:58.040
<v Speaker 1>a win for me. It's just like I got so

0:42:58.160 --> 0:43:00.560
<v Speaker 1>many homies that are really good at what they do,

0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:05.439
<v Speaker 1>that are like really really like brilliant dudes and really

0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:10.600
<v Speaker 1>paid paid dudes, were respecting and ship and I move

0:43:10.680 --> 0:43:14.440
<v Speaker 1>around with these guys when we go to certain we're

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:18.080
<v Speaker 1>going in certain spaces, it's their time, it's their ship.

0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:20.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna fly on the wall, and I'm happy to

0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:23.080
<v Speaker 1>see my dude get it all. It's like I like it.

0:43:23.200 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like like I like that ship. I'll be smiling

0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:28.640
<v Speaker 1>and ship like my boy and maybe all over my boy.

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:30.200
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, This all over them. Like

0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:33.120
<v Speaker 1>even when I've been with you sometimes we've been been

0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:35.399
<v Speaker 1>places and Motherucker's be all over you. I'm like, yeah,

0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:37.400
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. I'm cool with that. You

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:40.920
<v Speaker 1>know that's my homie. You know I've even we've been

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:42.560
<v Speaker 1>with Reggie. You know what I'm saying. Me and Reggie

0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:44.279
<v Speaker 1>going into boxing world. You know what I'm saying, a

0:43:44.400 --> 0:43:47.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of people in hip hop may not know Reggie Johnson,

0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:49.960
<v Speaker 1>but Reggie Johnson is a two time motherfucking champion. So

0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:53.200
<v Speaker 1>when Reddy Johnson going to the boxing world, we're going

0:43:53.280 --> 0:43:56.359
<v Speaker 1>to we go to boxing matches. Man, people all over

0:43:56.440 --> 0:43:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Reggie Man, I'm talking about it all over them, like

0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Reggie Johns, Reggie freak. Readon. You can autograph, give me

0:44:01.160 --> 0:44:04.200
<v Speaker 1>a good picture, and good picture like yeah, man, shine shine,

0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:07.480
<v Speaker 1>goddamn it. That's the homie, you know. So I I

0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:09.759
<v Speaker 1>love to see mine, you know. I love the people

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:11.719
<v Speaker 1>see people I funk with. Get it, man. If I

0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:14.439
<v Speaker 1>funk with you, I'm stuck with you. So it ain't

0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 1>never gonna be no hate for me. You know. If

0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:17.920
<v Speaker 1>I see something, if I see a hole in your arm,

0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you. You know, hey, man, you know,

0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:23.440
<v Speaker 1>pass that up. If I see something that can benefit you,

0:44:23.480 --> 0:44:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you, like yo, man, you are to

0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:27.360
<v Speaker 1>do it like this. Man, you ought to do it

0:44:27.480 --> 0:44:30.759
<v Speaker 1>like that, you know, like you know, obviously it's your

0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:32.319
<v Speaker 1>call at the end of the day. But at least,

0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:36.000
<v Speaker 1>if I see something, I'm not gonna sit back and

0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:38.440
<v Speaker 1>hold hold my nuts on you. I'm gonna speak on

0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:41.359
<v Speaker 1>and say, yo, man, what about this we thought about doing?

0:44:41.480 --> 0:44:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Like this? Who wo whoo? You know, so, I I

0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:50.880
<v Speaker 1>absolutely I tell people all the time, like you know, Brad,

0:44:51.000 --> 0:44:52.959
<v Speaker 1>you know he did his thing. You know what I'm saying.

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:57.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, he he had a great, great fucking solo career,

0:44:57.160 --> 0:44:59.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, but I know when it comes to this,

0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:03.239
<v Speaker 1>get oh boy of ship, Ship, we're right here. You

0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:05.520
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. You got me so low album, man,

0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you got it. I ain't here on trip I

0:45:07.680 --> 0:45:10.759
<v Speaker 1>can't front, but on this ghetto boys ship, we're right here.

0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Bro go back and listen to that motherfucking music, and

0:45:14.000 --> 0:45:15.960
<v Speaker 1>we're right here. You know what I'm saying. We compliment

0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:18.960
<v Speaker 1>each other, well like we get on that motherfucker together.

0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:20.520
<v Speaker 1>Were coming to students, just like when we're go in

0:45:20.520 --> 0:45:22.840
<v Speaker 1>the studio, we saw we're coming here. The chemistry like

0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:25.919
<v Speaker 1>that chemistry. I don't given if we we ain't seeing

0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:28.040
<v Speaker 1>each other in too three years or that don't happen.

0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:30.200
<v Speaker 1>But you know, if it's been a long time before

0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:32.160
<v Speaker 1>we get it actually work together, if it's been a

0:45:32.280 --> 0:45:35.040
<v Speaker 1>long time that we work together, it's like like that,

0:45:35.239 --> 0:45:40.239
<v Speaker 1>the chemistry clicking, just like that boom, and you know, Ship,

0:45:40.320 --> 0:45:41.560
<v Speaker 1>you bring the best out of me, I'll bring the

0:45:41.640 --> 0:45:43.480
<v Speaker 1>best out of you know what I'm saying. You know,

0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:46.640
<v Speaker 1>And so that's that that that that right there is

0:45:46.719 --> 0:45:48.959
<v Speaker 1>never gonna be questioning, bro like, I like to see

0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:51.560
<v Speaker 1>when when you're doing your thing, I like to see

0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:53.759
<v Speaker 1>you win. So it ain't it ain't. It ain't that.

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:57.960
<v Speaker 1>But it's just my My issue is when it's ghetto

0:45:58.040 --> 0:46:00.640
<v Speaker 1>boys and need to be ghetto boys. You had done

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:03.600
<v Speaker 1>your thing with your record, I would have had no

0:46:03.760 --> 0:46:05.640
<v Speaker 1>problem with that, you know what I'm saying. It would

0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:07.480
<v Speaker 1>have been just ye on that stage and you're doing

0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:09.920
<v Speaker 1>your thing. I would have no problem. I wouldn't even

0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:11.880
<v Speaker 1>ask to be a part of it. I would have

0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:13.840
<v Speaker 1>just been like, oh, that's how they're doing it, because

0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:17.279
<v Speaker 1>you deserve that. If they want to scar face and

0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:20.360
<v Speaker 1>not get old boys, you deserve that. You know what

0:46:20.400 --> 0:46:22.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. You you called out enough. You've done enough

0:46:22.840 --> 0:46:26.080
<v Speaker 1>to earn to be a part of a fifty year tribute.

0:46:26.120 --> 0:46:28.000
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. You've done enough, you know,

0:46:28.520 --> 0:46:30.319
<v Speaker 1>But if it's gonna be get old boys, they need

0:46:30.360 --> 0:46:33.120
<v Speaker 1>to be ghetto boys. And it ain't scar face, it's

0:46:33.200 --> 0:46:36.040
<v Speaker 1>it's Willie d and scar face. And I know some

0:46:36.160 --> 0:46:40.560
<v Speaker 1>motherfucker's got in their feelings because I didn't say Willie

0:46:40.600 --> 0:46:43.879
<v Speaker 1>the scar facing Bushwick Bill, But busch Wick Bill is dead.

0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:48.720
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, So that's why I smoked

0:46:48.800 --> 0:46:51.440
<v Speaker 1>the way I spoke. I mean, I mean, how do

0:46:51.560 --> 0:46:56.480
<v Speaker 1>you feel about that? So do you remember when you

0:46:56.560 --> 0:47:01.480
<v Speaker 1>left the group? Yeah? Okay, Um, the Ghetto Boys was

0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:09.640
<v Speaker 1>scar Faced Bushwick and Big Mike, all right, and you

0:47:09.719 --> 0:47:12.239
<v Speaker 1>weren't in the group no more so, motherfucker couldn't put

0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:15.040
<v Speaker 1>you in the group. Okay. When you came back to

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:20.640
<v Speaker 1>the group, it was scar Faced Willie bush Week Bill right, okay.

0:47:21.480 --> 0:47:25.320
<v Speaker 1>So and it stayed like that until when until Bill passed.

0:47:26.360 --> 0:47:30.839
<v Speaker 1>And now you didn't you forget? That was the one

0:47:30.880 --> 0:47:33.640
<v Speaker 1>album we did together, and it was Ghetto Boys was

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<v Speaker 1>scar Faced and Willie d the Good, the Bad and Ugly.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh ship, Willie, I did for that. So that we've

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<v Speaker 1>been here before, so time out. Is that the last

0:47:43.560 --> 0:47:46.040
<v Speaker 1>album we did together? No? No, no, that was the

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<v Speaker 1>one that that was. That was the one prior to

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<v Speaker 1>the last album. But the Good, the Bad and Ugly

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<v Speaker 1>was what I think. I don't I can't remember not.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even remember those albums. Bro. What I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>is this when you I don't know, Yeah, well I know.

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<v Speaker 1>All I'm saying is this is when you're no longer

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<v Speaker 1>in the group no more. You know what ghetto boys

0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:14.160
<v Speaker 1>and scar face Willie Dan period. At this point, when

0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:16.280
<v Speaker 1>you speak of Bushwick Bill, you speak in the former

0:48:16.320 --> 0:48:21.640
<v Speaker 1>ghetto boy Bushwick Bill. So let's be clear, like Bill

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<v Speaker 1>is is deceased, rest in peace, but he is no

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<v Speaker 1>longer in this group. So you you have married saying

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, ghetto boys really the scar face you

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<v Speaker 1>said you can say that, Yeah, you can say, I think, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know a lot of motherfucker's just getting their feelings

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<v Speaker 1>and they don't really understand, you know, how it goes,

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<v Speaker 1>and and that's fine, you know, but uh, you know

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<v Speaker 1>it is what it is, Bro, You know it is

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<v Speaker 1>it is, man, Like I said, Man, the next time,

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<v Speaker 1>next time I have the opportunity to perform my mind

0:48:59.320 --> 0:49:01.279
<v Speaker 1>playing tricks on me, dog, And if you're not in

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<v Speaker 1>the building, I ain't gonna do the song I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>about even that my own concert. But again, ain't you

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<v Speaker 1>know no, Willie, Willie, Bro, I love you like a

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<v Speaker 1>big brother, man, and we're gonna always have this relationship. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna always agree to disagree. You said that I

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<v Speaker 1>was fucked up for doing it. I said, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it brought the brand back into the forefront where people

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<v Speaker 1>can see it, and that's where that's where I am

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<v Speaker 1>with it. It's not it's not a fight with us.

0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:33.239
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna always be family. But I know how you

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<v Speaker 1>feel about it now. So if anything ever come up,

0:49:36.200 --> 0:49:39.000
<v Speaker 1>come up where it's gotta be us. If they want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear mine playing tricks, they got to hear it

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<v Speaker 1>with me and you, all right, and then we'll let

0:49:43.800 --> 0:49:47.520
<v Speaker 1>the crowd sing Bill's part. So I take full responsibility

0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:50.240
<v Speaker 1>for getting on that motherfucking stage and representing this brand

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<v Speaker 1>very well. But they did call for face, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>That that right there. I'll give you that. I take that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I represented that motherfucking brand well and I always

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<v Speaker 1>have and I always will. I disagree, Oh bullshit, Willie.

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<v Speaker 1>I disagree. That's bullshit to represent the brand where it

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<v Speaker 1>would have been saying you know what they called. They

0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:15.480
<v Speaker 1>called for me, and they wanted me to do a

0:50:15.480 --> 0:50:17.759
<v Speaker 1>get Old Boys song. I told him, fuck that. I

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<v Speaker 1>said that I'm not doing it without Willy D. Pick

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<v Speaker 1>another song if you if you want to do it

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<v Speaker 1>that bad, I say, pick another song, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>doing it without Willi D. That's that's what I think

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<v Speaker 1>would have been honorable. That would have been honorable to

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<v Speaker 1>know they ain't. No too. It's just three. Hey man,

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<v Speaker 1>you got your opinion. I got mine, bro, And there

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<v Speaker 1>is no um. There is no um right opinion or

0:50:47.120 --> 0:50:54.560
<v Speaker 1>wrong opinion in my opinion, all right, And don't forget that.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always be your little brother, whether we do the

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<v Speaker 1>grammar or the other or not. Mm hmm, no motub.

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