Speaker 1: Get gett boys. It's back and reoaded all in your mind. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not deep throating. This is for the streets, the reel,
Speaker 1: the railroading, the distant franchise, the truth escape building. And
Speaker 1: they ain't knowing we speak the truth, so they quoted
Speaker 1: because we wrote it. The north south East coat is
Speaker 1: the g be my tree, keeping your head bobbing. It
Speaker 1: ain't no stopping and wants to be drops head by
Speaker 1: then the system is so corrupt they throw the rock
Speaker 1: out of their hands and then blame it on us.
Speaker 1: Don't get it twisted on code and me and danced
Speaker 1: for no buttament biscuits. It's Willie de y'all scarfaces in
Speaker 1: the building. Collectively we are the Ghet old Boys reloaded,
Speaker 1: reloaded with another episode of information and instructions to help
Speaker 1: you navigate through this wild, crazy, beautiful world in the studio.
Speaker 1: Ghet old ghett Old Ghett old Boys, Yo, Ghetto boys,
Speaker 1: Get old boys, what's going on? Not get old boy? Well?
Speaker 1: Are you still on this ship? Yeah? I'm on that ship. Man.
Speaker 1: Come on, you had an interesting weekend. Let's talk about it.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. I mean ship like I gotta
Speaker 1: got a chance to go up and be a part
Speaker 1: of the fifty years of hip hop. And I saw
Speaker 1: some of my classmates and that was about it. Nothing
Speaker 1: nothing too great, nothing too great, but to be a
Speaker 1: part of something that was that that looked like a fat,
Speaker 1: that that everybody thought was a fat back then to
Speaker 1: last for fifty years and then, you know, turn out
Speaker 1: a fucking award show. Like in my opinion, I think
Speaker 1: that that um performance that it, that segment of the
Speaker 1: show was unbelievable. So the elephant in the room, you
Speaker 1: feel like you were slighted. I feel beyond slighted. Like
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to figure out is, first of all,
Speaker 1: like I ask you Wednesday when we left here, I said,
Speaker 1: what you got for the weekend? You say, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go fun with this Grammy stack. I said, all right, Matt,
Speaker 1: safe travels, because you know that's how we do it. Saturday, Calm.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the I'm looking at the I'm online
Speaker 1: and our article comes across about the Grammys, and I
Speaker 1: see ghetto boards and scar face. Let me see that.
Speaker 1: I don't have it now. I want to see where
Speaker 1: it says ghetto bays scar face. No, it's no. This
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying, want to say, I don't want
Speaker 1: to never get ghetto boys and scarface intertwined ever, because
Speaker 1: I don't need ghetto boys to be scar face, you
Speaker 1: feel me. So if it said scarface, ghetto boys and
Speaker 1: scarface and any of that ship too together, then they're
Speaker 1: wrong for that because I can stand on my own
Speaker 1: two feet with no ghetto boys. And this is why. So,
Speaker 1: this is why what was so baffling, because everybody knows
Speaker 1: that right, you carve dot a place in history for yourself.
Speaker 1: You were so good at what you did as a
Speaker 1: solo artist. You get that. Can't nobody deny that. So
Speaker 1: I ain't no hate, ain't no jealousy whatsoever. You know.
Speaker 1: Remember I'm the one that said, hey man, you are
Speaker 1: to call yourself scar face. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I'm I ain't gonna never hate on you never.
Speaker 1: I mean I want when I see you win, and
Speaker 1: I see Ghetto boys winning because we are a group.
Speaker 1: So when when when somebody said, start talking about scar
Speaker 1: Face standing on his own I said the minset I said,
Speaker 1: were scar Face got enough hit songs where he don't
Speaker 1: need to. How I get be doing a ghetto boys song?
Speaker 1: He could have just done a scar face song. If
Speaker 1: you would have done a scar face song, that would
Speaker 1: have been different. A scar face song is a scar
Speaker 1: face song that's on scar Faces catalog, not Ghetto Boys catalog.
Speaker 1: And to do a song on that's from the Ghetto
Speaker 1: Boys catalog, my mind's playing tricks. A song that I
Speaker 1: co wrote, and to not have me included in that.
Speaker 1: Let's let's go back to how the song came about
Speaker 1: two until you did have a um a verse on
Speaker 1: that record. Um those three verses. We all know where
Speaker 1: those three verses and the music came from. You put
Speaker 1: another verse on it. But do you recall back when
Speaker 1: you heard that song and Jay was trying to get
Speaker 1: you to rap on that motherfucker, but you didn't like it.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that. I don't know everybody didn't like
Speaker 1: the song, but I didn't think it was anything phenomenal. Okay,
Speaker 1: well it's phenomenal, And actually, now I think about it,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of ship that I do that's phenomenal,
Speaker 1: and I think that the the the reversal of trying
Speaker 1: to put that ship on me because you didn't go
Speaker 1: there to the Grammys is fucked up. Because my my
Speaker 1: phone rang okay, And if a motherfucker didn't reach out
Speaker 1: to you, it's not my fault. So don't put that
Speaker 1: ship on me, Willie. That's not cool. I'm not cool.
Speaker 1: And if I performed that song, I don't get mad
Speaker 1: when you go out and perform that song, bro, and
Speaker 1: I don't. I wouldn't even give a funk if you
Speaker 1: got the call. That's not that's not how I'm made like.
Speaker 1: I don't care about that. Have you ever went on
Speaker 1: before my mind playing tricks somewhere before without me? Okay? Well,
Speaker 1: me too, Okay, okay. So here's the difference. We're not
Speaker 1: talking about just performing. We're not just talking about performing
Speaker 1: a song anywhere everywhere like we all do, every last
Speaker 1: one of us have done it. We're talking about that.
Speaker 1: We're talking about a moment in history, the fifty year,
Speaker 1: a fifty year tribute to hip hop, a moment that's captures,
Speaker 1: a moment that's captors encapsulated in history, a moment that
Speaker 1: people ain't gonna never forget. Now. I understand that it
Speaker 1: was short time, but here's where I'm at with that.
Speaker 1: For something like that, for you to sit across this
Speaker 1: table for me weekly and knowing that you're gonna go
Speaker 1: to the Grammars and perform that song? Let me hold
Speaker 1: up the time out. I didn't know I was gonna
Speaker 1: do that. So at what point did you? Did you know?
Speaker 1: When I got there? Okay, so all right, okay, so
Speaker 1: you know you was, but you you didn't know you
Speaker 1: was gonna perform my mind's plan. But when you found out,
Speaker 1: did you did? Did you even think to say, man,
Speaker 1: this is a big moment. I'm performing to get old
Speaker 1: boys song, something that me and Willie D wrote. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wrote three verses, but will wrote one. He was
Speaker 1: on the song he is a ghet old boy that
Speaker 1: they want to get old boys song. Did you think
Speaker 1: for one moment to say, yo, will you know, even
Speaker 1: if even if time was running out on you, you you
Speaker 1: didn't think for one moment to say, man, let me
Speaker 1: just at least call Wheelless and let him know what's
Speaker 1: going on. It didn't. It didn't cast your mind to
Speaker 1: say that. It didn't cross my mind, Willie, It didn't
Speaker 1: cross my mind. M Hm. I don't believe you. You
Speaker 1: don't believe you know. I'm just I'm just I'm just saying, man,
Speaker 1: I don't believe you, bro, because I know you're smarter
Speaker 1: than that. Well I didn't, I know, I know, and
Speaker 1: it was. It's it's so much ship going on a
Speaker 1: lot of things, and it's so much. Let me tell
Speaker 1: you something too, so you know it's so much ship
Speaker 1: going on, Willie. Until I don't know if you got
Speaker 1: the call or not. I don't know what's happening with
Speaker 1: you on your side of it. Come on, bro, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't I don't know who handled your business.
Speaker 1: And as a matter of if the Graham is called
Speaker 1: about me, I didn't know that. I didn't even know
Speaker 1: that the call was. I didn't even know that the
Speaker 1: car was for sure until that Wednesday, that day you
Speaker 1: knew if I did not know, Listen, let's say you
Speaker 1: knew that day and and here's the thing. Okay, now, okay,
Speaker 1: time out. I know every motherfucking thing. Now, how does
Speaker 1: it change it? How does it change? It? Is? Over? Well?
Speaker 1: What what what the motherfucker gave me? The whoever the
Speaker 1: producer was, gave me four bars? That's it? Wait waiting
Speaker 1: for bars? What was it? I think he did eight?
Speaker 1: But in any event, in any event, that that's the
Speaker 1: his I mean for measures. So how how how does
Speaker 1: it change? How does it? You said? You said, how
Speaker 1: does it change it? How does it change anything that
Speaker 1: we talked about on a daily basis, Like we talked
Speaker 1: about a lot of ship and how does this us
Speaker 1: talking about what we talked about the changes what I
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't know that I was doing my mind
Speaker 1: playing tricks on me for one and for two, um,
Speaker 1: and then I can do about it. Now the ship
Speaker 1: is over with. Yeah, this ship, the ship is over with.
Speaker 1: But the end, the end all, the end all is
Speaker 1: for me two two, express to you how I felt
Speaker 1: about the ship you did. That's not and you know what,
Speaker 1: not just what you did. But the Grammys did the
Speaker 1: dudes that the ship that I did, Willie, This is
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you don't think so you don't
Speaker 1: see nothing wrong with going up on that stage and
Speaker 1: performing a get old Boys song by yourself? You don't.
Speaker 1: You don't see nothing wrong with that? Like hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, And we're talking about we're talking
Speaker 1: about at the Grammys at you know, for a fifty
Speaker 1: year tribute. Now listen, listen what I'm saying. First of all,
Speaker 1: let me let me say this all but let me
Speaker 1: get you. But let me get this out. Let me
Speaker 1: get this out now. I shouldn't have got I shouldn't
Speaker 1: have got on the plane. I should have went to
Speaker 1: the shouldn't have got on stage. I shouldn't have wrapped
Speaker 1: that song. I shouldn't have walked off stage. And I
Speaker 1: should got back on the plane and came home. It's
Speaker 1: all my phone, bro, if you I'm gonna speak on
Speaker 1: this though. Yeah, I'm gonna speak on this, so you
Speaker 1: ain't finish. I'm so I'm so glad that they called
Speaker 1: me Willie. I'm gonna speak. I'm so glad the quest
Speaker 1: reached out to me to do that motherfucking song. Bro,
Speaker 1: I'm happy about that. I'm glad people got a chance
Speaker 1: to see me, man, because people don't really get this chance.
Speaker 1: They don't really get a chance. That you're selfish. I
Speaker 1: would have never done enough ship like well, I don't know, Bro,
Speaker 1: I would have never I would have I would have
Speaker 1: never done no ship like that. The moment was too big, Bro,
Speaker 1: the moment was too big. I would have never done that.
Speaker 1: And let me say this, but let me but let
Speaker 1: me say this, Brad, I don't give let me say
Speaker 1: let me chase it and let me finish. I really
Speaker 1: don't give a funk about the Grammys. I don't care
Speaker 1: about none of them, get keeping ass niggas, none of
Speaker 1: that ship that they do. What I care about is
Speaker 1: the ghetto boys. You know, Like when we decided to
Speaker 1: do this podcast, I did this podcast for the for
Speaker 1: the sake of the brand. I didn't do it to
Speaker 1: say that. Okay, So I didn't do that. Actually, I
Speaker 1: understand it was your idea to do it, but I
Speaker 1: had to agree to it. So we're doing it by yourself.
Speaker 1: So we're doing this. But that's why it's called get
Speaker 1: Old Boys, so I said, So, I said, Okay, the
Speaker 1: reason why I had my I had my own podcast
Speaker 1: ship going on already, it was already doing big numbers.
Speaker 1: So so so I it took me. I built that brand.
Speaker 1: I built the podcast brand will with Willie d Live.
Speaker 1: I built that. And so when when we decided we
Speaker 1: was gonna bring this do this right here, I brought
Speaker 1: my audience like over here like this. So my thing
Speaker 1: was like let's bring let's and and let's let's grow
Speaker 1: this thing and keep keep our brand going, keep it strong,
Speaker 1: keep it keep it going. You didn't have to do this.
Speaker 1: I didn't have to do this, but I did it
Speaker 1: for the brand. You said you did it for the brand.
Speaker 1: I take your word, but look, the thing is this,
Speaker 1: in that situation where you have a fifty year tribute
Speaker 1: to the gether to to to hip hop, you should
Speaker 1: have done it for the brand. You should have said,
Speaker 1: you know what, if you ain't gonna sunk with Will,
Speaker 1: I ain't working with it. If it ain't, if Willy
Speaker 1: ain't coming, I'm not. If they'd have called me the
Speaker 1: roads were the verse, I don't give a funk but
Speaker 1: what my level of success was as a solo artist,
Speaker 1: it's the principle. I would not have done it without you.
Speaker 1: I would not move like that without you. That ain't
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't, and all honestly, I didn't really
Speaker 1: feel like it was that fucking important. I'm just saying, listen,
Speaker 1: let's know what I'm saying. I didn't really feel like
Speaker 1: it was that important for whoever did the motherfucker I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't. It's not a big deal to me. It's
Speaker 1: been it's been times, and like, do you remember the
Speaker 1: last time you did um when when we were supposed
Speaker 1: when you did them the Dome, the rodeo. I didn't
Speaker 1: do that, you know why. Yeah, but you had that choice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't do what It was your choice. I didn't
Speaker 1: do it. It was your choice. You decided you didn't
Speaker 1: do it because you didn't want to do what you did.
Speaker 1: You was given a choice, but you did it. I
Speaker 1: did it because I was giving a choice. We we communicate,
Speaker 1: remember from day one, when we found when you found out,
Speaker 1: I found out, We got on the phone and we communicated.
Speaker 1: So we didn't do that with this. That was a
Speaker 1: big moment. No, that was That was a big moment.
Speaker 1: But that was just the biggest moment in music history.
Speaker 1: That was it was the best, biggest was a big moment,
Speaker 1: Willie and I didn't do that moment because you wouldn't
Speaker 1: you too, okay, because you didn't know. But you didn't
Speaker 1: give me. But I didn't happen if they didn't call you?
Speaker 1: What what you want? What you wanted me to do?
Speaker 1: So you wouldn't stand up for your dog want? Why
Speaker 1: did why did up? Why? They got the comment I
Speaker 1: told you to do the fucking show? What do it?
Speaker 1: You didn't say you couldn't do what you said? You
Speaker 1: wouldn't do it, Okay, well I could. That's a difference.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't do it. That's difference. But you did it.
Speaker 1: Come on, bro, you really the same thing. That's a
Speaker 1: false equivalencyt bro. Come on, you ain't stupid. You know
Speaker 1: this ship, brod, I can't say that this. You know that. Bro,
Speaker 1: it's the same thing. Come on, man, you know that.
Speaker 1: And I was that choice, bro. But you know what
Speaker 1: you could have done if you felt some kind of
Speaker 1: way about me doing it because you don't want to
Speaker 1: do you know what you could have done. You could
Speaker 1: have voiced your opinion, say well, I don't think you
Speaker 1: should funk with it in the name of the brand.
Speaker 1: I don't think you should do it. So if we're
Speaker 1: gonna be on the same page, we get old boys.
Speaker 1: If you get old boys, it's ghetto boys. You know, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you got your own ship going in your own right
Speaker 1: and you're all right. You did a great job for
Speaker 1: yourself as a solo artist. You did a great people.
Speaker 1: But listen what I'm saying. But every like you did
Speaker 1: your ship, I did my ship, you know, saying your
Speaker 1: name is strong and and and for what you do,
Speaker 1: My my ship is strong for what I do. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, neither of us need each other
Speaker 1: when we come together with more powerful We know that
Speaker 1: we know the Ghetto Boys. We know that the Ghetto
Speaker 1: Boys brand is more powerful. Neither one of us, no
Speaker 1: matter how much success we've attained all these years, neither
Speaker 1: one of us brand and and and and and and
Speaker 1: and and the fact did not go out on television
Speaker 1: and shipped on this brand. Okay, I didn't shoot on it.
Speaker 1: I represented it. And if you feel like it was
Speaker 1: supposed to be Ghetto Boys, then we'll address that. But
Speaker 1: how can you not feel like it was supposed to
Speaker 1: be Ghetto boys? If you do a Ghetto Boys song
Speaker 1: on the ground, you know, on on stage at the
Speaker 1: on the biggest platform in music, how can you not
Speaker 1: feel like it's a Ghetto Boys moment? So now you
Speaker 1: reverse everything back to me. That's it's it's not that
Speaker 1: it's not that the Grammys didn't call you to do it.
Speaker 1: It's that they called me to do it. It's the
Speaker 1: understand It's it's no, it's that we didn't do it. I
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk who they called. It's that
Speaker 1: we didn't do it together. It don't matter who they called.
Speaker 1: Brad if they called me, you're gonna know if they
Speaker 1: called you, I should have known. Well that's the point, Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: So I take full responsibility. Ghetto Boys Reloaded podcast will
Speaker 1: be right back after the street. You know when I
Speaker 1: when I made that video, Bro, I made the video
Speaker 1: because like, I don't even feel comfortable like having these
Speaker 1: type of this type of discussion with you to them,
Speaker 1: because I know a lot of them don't give a
Speaker 1: funk about you or me. They just talk ship. They
Speaker 1: got a few seconds to think about what they wanted,
Speaker 1: what they think about what we're talking about, and they
Speaker 1: be and that's it. They're gone, and they they drop
Speaker 1: a bomb and they just turn their back and they
Speaker 1: don't give a funk what happened after that. Don't care
Speaker 1: how what happened with our relationship. Don't you funk about
Speaker 1: get old boys like that. They're not they're not invested
Speaker 1: like that. So when the motherfucker say something like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't see it being such a big
Speaker 1: deal that he wasn't on stage or whatever scar face
Speaker 1: represented whatever, that's because your motherfuckering ass ain't put thirty
Speaker 1: three years in the game. You know, you ain't set
Speaker 1: up in the motherfucking studio, writing songs and and and
Speaker 1: thinking and and and and stressing over ship and beefing
Speaker 1: and bumping heads with with with with motherfucker's that's in
Speaker 1: your in your band. You ain't been on the road
Speaker 1: when the mother bust broke down, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You ain't been a mother You didn't go to motherfucking
Speaker 1: New York for the first time and got booed and
Speaker 1: didn't have to come back and build yourself all the
Speaker 1: way back up and come back and sell out Madison
Speaker 1: Square Garden. You don't have to do nothing. You ain't
Speaker 1: went through none of that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So you don't know the journey. You ain't part of
Speaker 1: the journey. You ain't got the blood, sweat and the
Speaker 1: tears and the work in So you don't have as
Speaker 1: much invested in this ship as I have in it.
Speaker 1: And other people who were who would not represent it
Speaker 1: right in that grammar situation. You know what they should
Speaker 1: have done for that moment. They should have not have
Speaker 1: done it, because you cannot represent fifty years of hip
Speaker 1: hop in fourteen minutes. That ship should have been on
Speaker 1: his own platform. Fuck the Grammars. The Grammars ain't big
Speaker 1: enough to hold hip hop. Hip Hop is bigger than
Speaker 1: the Grammys. It's way bigger than the ground. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: agree with you on that they should not have done that.
Speaker 1: I'm you know, if that hip that hip hop and
Speaker 1: four team and it's a twelve minutes and having long,
Speaker 1: it was like it needs way more time. But what
Speaker 1: I what? I what? What? What I wouldn't do is
Speaker 1: be upset because you weren't know on it. I wouldn't know.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be upset with is Dale so upset at pause,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't talked to Okay, well is
Speaker 1: wul Tane Clan upset at method Man, I don't know, Okay,
Speaker 1: But don't be upset at me for going up there
Speaker 1: with this. This is this is us, This is okay, Okay.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on with Andre and and
Speaker 1: and and and and and and Big Boy. I don't
Speaker 1: know what's going on with Pons and all these guys.
Speaker 1: You know what's going on. What's what I'm saying? I
Speaker 1: just said, I take full responsibility for going up there
Speaker 1: and representing this brand, all right. I did that. I
Speaker 1: did the funk out of that, And I think that
Speaker 1: people love that song even more so now you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Well, I think because I think they
Speaker 1: love it even more so now, Willie, because they've seen
Speaker 1: it done again. Maybe that's how you feel about it,
Speaker 1: and maybe that's what you heard people say. But and
Speaker 1: I've heard both ways. I've heard people say, yeah, you
Speaker 1: represented and warm, but I've all had so heard people
Speaker 1: feel like they were robbed. I heard many people say
Speaker 1: they felt raw. I heard many people say I was
Speaker 1: looking at In fact, my god daughter watched the show
Speaker 1: with her mother and her mother told me, uh, she
Speaker 1: knew it was coming show was coming on. She didn't
Speaker 1: know what was going on, but she knew the show
Speaker 1: was coming on. So she was watching the show and
Speaker 1: she said that she wanted to surprise her and she said, oh,
Speaker 1: that's car face and she got all excited and ship
Speaker 1: and she said, oh, Zancho will coming out and Zanco
Speaker 1: will coming s is it? And she was just no,
Speaker 1: uncle will see. So so that might be cool with
Speaker 1: you and the people that you heard from, but that's
Speaker 1: other people out there who felt like that they were
Speaker 1: robbed from that, that that that experience. It's other people
Speaker 1: you know your kids. I'm sure your kids were proud
Speaker 1: of you to see daddy on that stage like that,
Speaker 1: on the stage that be I'm sure your kids were
Speaker 1: very proud of you, and they should be. But my
Speaker 1: kids were robbed of that opportunity to see their dad
Speaker 1: on that stage and in a moment in time for
Speaker 1: or a genre of music that he heavily contributed to. Now,
Speaker 1: I may not have built the motherfucking room in that
Speaker 1: motherfucking Matsion, but I put some goddamn paint on the wall,
Speaker 1: and the calls it somewhere. I gotta break in that
Speaker 1: motherfucker somewhere that can't be denied because if you look
Speaker 1: at this fucking music that we did, you know you
Speaker 1: wrote your verses. I wrote my verses. You wrote song
Speaker 1: for Bill. I wrote most for Bill. So most of
Speaker 1: the ship that came out of Bill Moth came out
Speaker 1: of my head first. So a motherfucker can't say they
Speaker 1: love ghetto boys what I love and Willie d That's
Speaker 1: that's disingenuous, you know, Like I deserved to be on
Speaker 1: that motherfucking stage just like other people deserve to be
Speaker 1: on there. But like I said, I can't fight their battles.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I can only speak on
Speaker 1: my ship, And I just felt like if if it
Speaker 1: was me, if the shoe was on the other foot,
Speaker 1: I absolutely would have represented you also. I would have
Speaker 1: included you. First time I got a call, it would
Speaker 1: have been yo, man. The Grahams wanted what you wanna do?
Speaker 1: That's how I've always done you any time I've gotten call.
Speaker 1: But I didn't. I didn't get the I didn't get
Speaker 1: the call Willie. I didn't get the ghetto boys call. Okay, alright,
Speaker 1: but and and and and and let me finish. They
Speaker 1: could have called me to do any one of my songs,
Speaker 1: all right, So why you didn't do it? Because that
Speaker 1: wasn't the way that they had it set up in
Speaker 1: the in the in the show, they had already been
Speaker 1: practicing this ship. I didn't know until I got the
Speaker 1: rehearsal world. What were they practiced. There was practicing my plan.
Speaker 1: It was practicing all of that ship, and they all
Speaker 1: that ship ran on together. But they did my mind's
Speaker 1: playing tricks. The fact that they did my mind's playing
Speaker 1: tricks tells me they wanted ghetto boys. That's what it.
Speaker 1: Maybe they wanted something that you did you call them.
Speaker 1: That sounds that you called them and actually called the
Speaker 1: executive producers. But he but he didn't called me back.
Speaker 1: I actually called him several times and I finally said,
Speaker 1: you know what, let me let's leave a message, let
Speaker 1: me let me, let me shoot him a text. And
Speaker 1: he never returned my call. You see. And I also
Speaker 1: called Questen. Let me back up. I didn't call a
Speaker 1: quest I had somebody else puts the calls into him.
Speaker 1: You know, he never called me back. You know a
Speaker 1: few other people who was involved. And I get it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I'm sure they ain't calling
Speaker 1: a lot of people back right now. I'm sure a
Speaker 1: whole lot of people as fiss, which which this is
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Man Like, for a while, we had
Speaker 1: to deal with gatekeepers in hip hop. They did not
Speaker 1: want us to be involved in this thing called music.
Speaker 1: I remember a time when I would go to the
Speaker 1: clubs and that was only one club in Houston that
Speaker 1: would play hip hop, and that was the Ryan Stone Rankler.
Speaker 1: Every other club pride of itself on not playing hip hop.
Speaker 1: And I remember black people, specifically with brag about how they, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't wrap, I don't listen to that, and they
Speaker 1: be all snobby about listening to wrap. I don't even
Speaker 1: listen to hip hop. I don't listen. They thought that
Speaker 1: that was some kind of some type of badge of honor,
Speaker 1: to not listen to hip hop, the music of the children,
Speaker 1: to not listen to it, to not respect them, to
Speaker 1: not know it. You know, they thought that was a
Speaker 1: badge of honor. I remember going to the Bars nightclub
Speaker 1: and pushing up on the DJ and telling the DJ
Speaker 1: play this song that song. Gangster Love played the song.
Speaker 1: The DJ said, I can't play it. I'm gonna lose
Speaker 1: my job. I remember telling that DJ, you want to
Speaker 1: lose your job or you want to lose your teeth.
Speaker 1: I did that for for for for the culture. That's
Speaker 1: the type of ship I put the work, kind of
Speaker 1: work I put in And dude did not play the
Speaker 1: play the record at that moment, but he said come
Speaker 1: back and I play it. We came right back and
Speaker 1: stood over his ass. They had and they had their
Speaker 1: people in that, and I had a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: people in that and they was like, they put that
Speaker 1: goddamn song on and only two people got on the floor.
Speaker 1: They d asked the gamester love two people. But that
Speaker 1: was a start. Now you can't go to a club
Speaker 1: in Houston without playing hip hop without listening to hip hop.
Speaker 1: You can't go nowhere. And people take that ship for granted.
Speaker 1: They think like this ship just miraculously happened all by itself,
Speaker 1: like boom poom poof this ship is happening. No, I
Speaker 1: put real work in bro so I deserve to be
Speaker 1: on that motherfucking stage as much to anybody. But again,
Speaker 1: like I said, we we we had the gatekeepers at
Speaker 1: one point, and now hip hop is old enough to
Speaker 1: where some of us are gatekeepers. And some of us
Speaker 1: who are gatekeepers now have decided that we are going
Speaker 1: to keep others who are in the culture outside of
Speaker 1: the culture the longest rearing. It's all good. Some of
Speaker 1: us are keeping our own people out of the culture,
Speaker 1: out of certain experiences because of whatever issues that they
Speaker 1: might have. And if you ain't gonna do this ship right,
Speaker 1: I'm talking to all you motherfucker's out there, all your
Speaker 1: motherfucker's producing hip hop blog and are putting ship out.
Speaker 1: If you if you out there and you're showing love
Speaker 1: and you're doing it the right way, I salute you.
Speaker 1: I salute you like a motherfucker's I know how hard
Speaker 1: it is, But if you're trying to hustle the game,
Speaker 1: if you're trying to hustle hip hop, if you're throwing ship,
Speaker 1: throwing ship together and not showing the proper respect for
Speaker 1: the number one genre of music in the game period,
Speaker 1: ain't nobody fucking with us, including country We surpassed everybody.
Speaker 1: If you're not gonna give us I respect, don't funk
Speaker 1: with us, get your mother fucking ass gone, don't funk
Speaker 1: with us at all, don't don't try to give us,
Speaker 1: don't throw throw together some fourteen minutes ship and put
Speaker 1: fifty years of hip hop in the side of fourteen
Speaker 1: minutes and think we're supposed to be grateful. We're not
Speaker 1: supposed to be grateful, man. We're We're the number one
Speaker 1: genre of music. We deserve more than that ship, bro.
Speaker 1: And it's not just disappointing, it's heartbreaking, bro, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like, it's the ship is heartbreaking
Speaker 1: because they don't respect us, and I feel like we
Speaker 1: don't respect ourselves enough to demand more. They would have
Speaker 1: never done that to rock and roll, never done some
Speaker 1: ship like that for country music, they would have gave
Speaker 1: them motherfucker's a whole show by themselves. It would have
Speaker 1: never been fourteen minutes of eighty years of country, ninety
Speaker 1: years of rock and roll. They would have never done
Speaker 1: no ship like that. They shifted on us because we
Speaker 1: don't demand more of ourselves, and we gotta stand on something, man.
Speaker 1: But we gotta have principles. We gotta stand on those principles. Man.
Speaker 1: We can't just say, oh, well, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's people that have have fucking built this ship for real,
Speaker 1: and and some of us that have built it. I'm
Speaker 1: fortunate enough to be doing good, unfortunate enough to be
Speaker 1: doing well financially for myself. But there are others who
Speaker 1: are not doing so well who built this ship, and
Speaker 1: and we shipped on them, and we try to call
Speaker 1: him bummy. We try to say that they don't they
Speaker 1: ain't got no money, or they fucked it up, they
Speaker 1: sucked the bag up and all this ship. Instead of
Speaker 1: being appreciative and saying, you know what what can we
Speaker 1: do to help out? You know what can we do? Were?
Speaker 1: You know? We we we gotta do better. Yeah, Willie
Speaker 1: in in in my opinion that um, that segment of
Speaker 1: that show was big. Man. It was huge, and regardless
Speaker 1: of how you feel about it, man, it just let
Speaker 1: the those twelve million of having many viewers see hip hop.
Speaker 1: You know that, uh, what you thought was a fat
Speaker 1: turned into the biggest genre of music ever. They already
Speaker 1: know that, brad okay, but they thought it was but
Speaker 1: they thought that was a fan. But but now now
Speaker 1: now it's in your face. You know, fifty years of
Speaker 1: this ship and and and it's fifty more to go.
Speaker 1: I agree with you. You know, you should have been there.
Speaker 1: I should have called you, but I shouldn't have opted
Speaker 1: out not to do it if you didn't come. You
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying, like to to to do my mind?
Speaker 1: Playing tricks on the Grammars catapulted us to a whole
Speaker 1: another level. Bro. I think, I know, I know that,
Speaker 1: I know. The face value of it, to be seen
Speaker 1: on the motherfucker is one thing. But the song, as
Speaker 1: historical as that song is, man, it's it's here, it's
Speaker 1: still here. And I don't know, Willie, you would have
Speaker 1: probably got up on that motherfucker and did the same
Speaker 1: thing you did at the baseball park. Man, and it's
Speaker 1: mother fucking long, no no different when you got directions, Bro,
Speaker 1: the right directions, but right instructions. But but I would say,
Speaker 1: Bro that there is there is no way possible. I
Speaker 1: don't It's nobody who can convince me that that was
Speaker 1: the right move because, like I said, the moment was
Speaker 1: too big. The moment was too big. It's like it's
Speaker 1: like somebody, it's like somebody doing doing um doing something
Speaker 1: with they're recognizing the record labels of hip hop, the
Speaker 1: greatest labels, and Ship and and Jay not being invited,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, or master P not being invited,
Speaker 1: which by the way, I didn't see master P on
Speaker 1: that stage either. I don't know what happened. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I don't know people's personal issues, well business, but I
Speaker 1: know ain't no way Masterpiece should not have been on
Speaker 1: that stage. There's no way possible with with with what
Speaker 1: he contributed, what he brought to the table. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Modi you know what I'm saying. You know, uh, Ship Houdini.
Speaker 1: You know, like we could go on and on and
Speaker 1: on and so people, but this is why they should
Speaker 1: not have half as did it, you know, like show
Speaker 1: us give us our real respect. J J fad. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, give us the real respect.
Speaker 1: I know Q probably didn't, didn't didn't, he'd probably turned
Speaker 1: it down because I'm sure they called que But in
Speaker 1: any event, I don't know what happened. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying that they the respect was not there.
Speaker 1: And this is and this indicative of how often that
Speaker 1: we allow motherfucker's to just you know, steamroll us man,
Speaker 1: and and and put us in this little box, this
Speaker 1: little Just be lucky. Just be grateful that you got that.
Speaker 1: Just be happy that you got fourteen minutes. Just be now,
Speaker 1: we're beyond that. If this was if they had given
Speaker 1: hip hop fourteen minutes twenty years ago, years ago, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's understandable, because they didn't. We we we were knew,
Speaker 1: we knew this thing years ago. Fine, but dude, we're
Speaker 1: fifty years deep and we're the best at what we're
Speaker 1: the best. We'll let me put it like this, because
Speaker 1: being the best is suggestive, uh subjective, But we are
Speaker 1: number one. We are the number one genre of of
Speaker 1: of music. We sell the most. We're killing everybody. Ain't
Speaker 1: nobody fucking with the hip hop. You can say what
Speaker 1: you want to say about it, but hip hop is
Speaker 1: number one. Go to any club anywhere in the world
Speaker 1: and you're gonna hear some hip hop. So it needs
Speaker 1: to be respected and we need to demand more of ourselves.
Speaker 1: And we should not hustle the brand. We should not
Speaker 1: hustle the the the the brand of hip hop, the
Speaker 1: brand of hip hop. We should not hustle that. You know, No,
Speaker 1: we should not allow people to hustle it, not even
Speaker 1: the people that are inside. It's almost like those gate
Speaker 1: black gate keepers who who ran the Grammys, who produced
Speaker 1: the Grammys, who was a part of those decisions making? Uh,
Speaker 1: those that decision making. To me, it's a kind to
Speaker 1: having a black mayor or black chief of police and
Speaker 1: black people are still getting catching the blues in their city.
Speaker 1: We got a black chief, we got symbolism, but we
Speaker 1: what we don't have is, uh, we don't have a
Speaker 1: fast shape, we don't have a fact, we don't we
Speaker 1: don't have a level playing field. We're still not getting
Speaker 1: our justice. But even though we have a black chief
Speaker 1: of police, look at what happens in Memphis. You got
Speaker 1: a black chief of police, you got all these black
Speaker 1: officers and not one of them had the presence of
Speaker 1: mind to show some humanity, to show some empathy for this,
Speaker 1: for this man, not one. It's fucked up, bro, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's fucked up. So we talked
Speaker 1: about how you know, we should be on the inside
Speaker 1: and we need to have our own ship, and when
Speaker 1: we get our opportunity like that, we don't. We don't
Speaker 1: look out for each other, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that's that's that's my issue, bro, that's my issue.
Speaker 1: And it can't nobody telling me that that was the
Speaker 1: right move. And people got their own opinions and all
Speaker 1: that ship. But like I said, they didn't do this ship.
Speaker 1: They ain't put thirty three years and like I did,
Speaker 1: I'm on thirty four right now. So they didn't put
Speaker 1: that thirty you're on thirty four. They didn't do that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We did that, and we
Speaker 1: should share in the glory, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If we're gonna we're gonna, if we're gonna be there
Speaker 1: for for for the agony, you know, if we're gonna
Speaker 1: be there for for the for the for the mis
Speaker 1: qs and and the and the uh and and and
Speaker 1: and and and the trauma and the drama. We should
Speaker 1: be there for the triumphs, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and the accolades as a group, not as a member.
Speaker 1: And I gotta say, you don't need I'm gonna reiterate
Speaker 1: that and reiterate that you don't need ghetto boys. I
Speaker 1: don't need ghetto boys. But if we're gonna do get
Speaker 1: oo boys, let's do ghetto boys. And that's why I
Speaker 1: want to say, I want to make sure that every
Speaker 1: all these mother because I here know that don't be
Speaker 1: trying to hustle our brand. And you ain't, including me
Speaker 1: and Brad, don't try to hustle our motherfucking brand because
Speaker 1: I ain't going forward. I ain't letting a ship slide.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna speak on the ship. I don't
Speaker 1: like this whole, this whole podcast. That's the part. The
Speaker 1: piece that I don't like about this podcast ship is
Speaker 1: that you know, this thing was done in a way
Speaker 1: where I had no choice but to speak on this.
Speaker 1: This is typically something that we would discuss in private
Speaker 1: because we've had our grinds to you know, gripes and
Speaker 1: ship in the past. But We've always addressed our ship personally,
Speaker 1: this really ain't no ship. They need to be hearing.
Speaker 1: But since it was addressed in a public forum, then
Speaker 1: I had to you know, it was the the transgression
Speaker 1: aggression in my opinion, was done publicly, then you know
Speaker 1: the rebuttal had to be done. You know, it had
Speaker 1: to be addressed publicly. So you know, that's why I'm
Speaker 1: at with brooted podcast. Will be right back after the
Speaker 1: set well and and and really I understand that, but
Speaker 1: you just understand that it wasn't my call to make.
Speaker 1: It was at the end of the day, Like I said,
Speaker 1: you could have said, no, I'm not working with it
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, no matter what they say.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you could have said,
Speaker 1: I'm not fucking with it. If I'm not taking this
Speaker 1: dude that I sit here and do that Ghet Old
Speaker 1: Boys podcast with every morning, I'm not gonna do it.
Speaker 1: And here's another thing, Brad, we are for renewal on
Speaker 1: this podcast. We're doing this podcast together. It's Ghettold Boys podcast.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't it have made more sense, wouldn't it would have
Speaker 1: been a what's what greater selling point than to go
Speaker 1: get the bag than to than than for them to
Speaker 1: see Ghetto Boys on that biggest stage together, the dudes
Speaker 1: that do this podcast together, that host this podcast together.
Speaker 1: What what what greater argument we could have had to
Speaker 1: get the bag then then to be on that motherfucking
Speaker 1: stage together, and and and and call the motherfucker the
Speaker 1: next day and say, yeah, you so, what were we doing?
Speaker 1: You like that ship all? I dropped that bad Willie.
Speaker 1: There ain't a better selling point. It's it's a hell
Speaker 1: of a selling point, but it's still a selling point
Speaker 1: though it ain't strong, bro, it's just not as strong. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, we we agree to disagree. I think that
Speaker 1: it's just as strong, and I think it's just as
Speaker 1: sucking strong because it was representing very well. If it's
Speaker 1: just as strong, why do we do this podcast together? Why? Why? Why? Why?
Speaker 1: Why aren't you doing this podcast by yourself? Why aren't
Speaker 1: I doing this podcast by myself? Because we're stronger together.
Speaker 1: But that's why, that's the same thing on that stage.
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk how many hits you got.
Speaker 1: I don't care how great these niggas thank you are
Speaker 1: or how great you are when you funk with that
Speaker 1: Ghetto Boys ship. It's a different level. It's a different
Speaker 1: motherfucking level. Can nobody tell me different. I've seen it
Speaker 1: with my own eyes for thirty three years. It's a
Speaker 1: different level, and you know it, so that cannot be denied.
Speaker 1: The reason why we do this motherfucker together, it's called
Speaker 1: get old Boys reloaded, because we're stronger together. You can
Speaker 1: do this motherfucker by yourself and it'll get numbers. I
Speaker 1: can do it by myself, you'll get numbers. But together,
Speaker 1: the motherfucker it's unstoppable, exactly, And I agree with that too.
Speaker 1: But the brand was still represenced, somebody said, But usually
Speaker 1: everything that comes after that is, yeah, the brand is
Speaker 1: still represented. Well, Willie trust me, ask him, don't take mine,
Speaker 1: don't take mine, don't don't don't take my word for it,
Speaker 1: asked the public. You know. Yeah, it would have been
Speaker 1: stronger with you there, but it was still represented very well. Bro.
Speaker 1: I didn't miss you. I didn't miss no word words.
Speaker 1: I didn't. It was still there when you and all
Speaker 1: I can say. All I can say is, man, I
Speaker 1: show hate you feel like that because that was a
Speaker 1: big gass moment, all right, But the next time they
Speaker 1: do it and they call you and they don't call me. Man, Okay,
Speaker 1: they they gotta call somebody first. That ain't the point.
Speaker 1: It ain't who they call, it's what happens after they
Speaker 1: make the call. Do you call me and say they
Speaker 1: mentioned ghetto boys, they won't get oo boys? But I
Speaker 1: call you and say they won't get Oo boys. I will.
Speaker 1: That's a fact that they didn't. Never say never got
Speaker 1: a call. I never got a call for getto Boys
Speaker 1: and not called you. I never got a call for
Speaker 1: getto Boys and not called you. I'll take your word
Speaker 1: for it. I don't believe you. But do you think
Speaker 1: I gotta call for get God? Damn right? I think
Speaker 1: you gotta cover before huh yeah, damn Willie? You think
Speaker 1: I gotta get a call for ghetto boys on? Man? Listen, listen, listen,
Speaker 1: bro come on listen man. I'm gonna stop you right there,
Speaker 1: my nigga, because I ain't never got no motherfucking call
Speaker 1: from no ghetto boys, and I called you ever and
Speaker 1: I never will. As a matter of fact, we don't
Speaker 1: even have the same people controlling our ship, man, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, I got a totally different
Speaker 1: manager than you, so I'm probably not gonna never get
Speaker 1: no call, no way forget Oh Boys. But if somebody
Speaker 1: called me directly and say they want to Ghetto Boys,
Speaker 1: most definitely gonna call you. Okay, So let me break
Speaker 1: it down. So over the years, as we put out
Speaker 1: these albums, every time we put out a Ghetto Boys album,
Speaker 1: you put out a scar face album right behind it.
Speaker 1: It's easy to look up if you see the frown.
Speaker 1: But that's a scar face album that comes out right
Speaker 1: after ghetto boy album every time. Who who did that? Me?
Speaker 1: Brad Jordan? Yeah, but I put out an album, look
Speaker 1: it up. Yeah, you put out alm after get Oo
Speaker 1: Boys every time. So when we go out on the road,
Speaker 1: we got that doing five six shows or whatever, m
Speaker 1: and then you know, the promotion stops. We stopped promoting,
Speaker 1: we stopped doing shows. You take your break, you drop
Speaker 1: your album, and then you go out and do all
Speaker 1: the shows. So you're saying that a motherfucker. Don't they
Speaker 1: never called you and said, yo, man, what about Ghetto Boys? No,
Speaker 1: and you and you just said, now, I ain't doing
Speaker 1: Getto Boys. I'm doing myself, doing my own ship. No,
Speaker 1: they ain't never called me and said Ghetto Boys, I
Speaker 1: don't believe yet, well, then talk to you. Talked to
Speaker 1: Dub you know, actually was man and managing me back
Speaker 1: when we were doing that, calling you better. And if
Speaker 1: I if I ever dropped the album behind ghetto boys,
Speaker 1: I dropped it on rapp a lot, all right, remember that?
Speaker 1: Don't you ever forget that? Oh, I can't forget what
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would never, I wouldn't never do nothing
Speaker 1: to try to advotage your ship, Willie. Ever, it doesn't
Speaker 1: benefit me to sabotage you. Man, What I look like
Speaker 1: trying to sabotage you? Man, you look like Brad Jordan.
Speaker 1: Then con countibleize, cannibalize your project. You look like Brad
Speaker 1: Jordan to me, to countible like some ship Brad Jordon
Speaker 1: might do, because I know Brad Jordan as motherfucking sneaky
Speaker 1: ass nigger, and I know Brad Jordan will do some
Speaker 1: sneaky ship if you have to. I know that, I
Speaker 1: know Brad Jordan do a lot of thinking right there.
Speaker 1: You'll never have to worry about me doing to you,
Speaker 1: all right that part? Oh yeah, I'm a deep ass thinking.
Speaker 1: But I would never cannibalize your projects ever. As a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, Man, I Mario. You gotta you got
Speaker 1: a lot of tech to testing in. Man, you got
Speaker 1: some ship. Come hook this dude up. Bro, come dude,
Speaker 1: William do some ship like that. Man. One thing about it, man, Bro,
Speaker 1: I'm calling a strike a striking a ball the ball
Speaker 1: and I and I'm I've always you know, like I
Speaker 1: think I've actually put the brand before myself too many times.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I haven't been selfish enough. Actually,
Speaker 1: you know, I put the Ghetto Boys brand before my
Speaker 1: my brand many times. If when I when we've done
Speaker 1: records and ship and it's time to do it, I
Speaker 1: could be working on some solo ship and we did,
Speaker 1: get ready to do get old boy album. Whatever I got,
Speaker 1: it's going to get Old Boys. It's immediately. Like it's
Speaker 1: because I'm always like, okay, best for far. But whatever
Speaker 1: I got, you know, And like I said, bro, you
Speaker 1: you you've done, You've done well for yourself. Bro, I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not that dude. Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I'm it's for me. It's the principle. Like so
Speaker 1: it's not about being no fucking I hate uh being
Speaker 1: no jealous because when you win. To me, it's like
Speaker 1: a win for me. It's just like I got so
Speaker 1: many homies that are really good at what they do,
Speaker 1: that are like really really like brilliant dudes and really
Speaker 1: paid paid dudes, were respecting and ship and I move
Speaker 1: around with these guys when we go to certain we're
Speaker 1: going in certain spaces, it's their time, it's their ship.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fly on the wall, and I'm happy to
Speaker 1: see my dude get it all. It's like I like it.
Speaker 1: It's like like I like that ship. I'll be smiling
Speaker 1: and ship like my boy and maybe all over my boy.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, This all over them. Like
Speaker 1: even when I've been with you sometimes we've been been
Speaker 1: places and Motherucker's be all over you. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I'm cool with that. You
Speaker 1: know that's my homie. You know I've even we've been
Speaker 1: with Reggie. You know what I'm saying. Me and Reggie
Speaker 1: going into boxing world. You know what I'm saying, a
Speaker 1: lot of people in hip hop may not know Reggie Johnson,
Speaker 1: but Reggie Johnson is a two time motherfucking champion. So
Speaker 1: when Reddy Johnson going to the boxing world, we're going
Speaker 1: to we go to boxing matches. Man, people all over
Speaker 1: Reggie Man, I'm talking about it all over them, like
Speaker 1: Reggie Johns, Reggie freak. Readon. You can autograph, give me
Speaker 1: a good picture, and good picture like yeah, man, shine shine,
Speaker 1: goddamn it. That's the homie, you know. So I I
Speaker 1: love to see mine, you know. I love the people
Speaker 1: see people I funk with. Get it, man. If I
Speaker 1: funk with you, I'm stuck with you. So it ain't
Speaker 1: never gonna be no hate for me. You know. If
Speaker 1: I see something, if I see a hole in your arm,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you. You know, hey, man, you know,
Speaker 1: pass that up. If I see something that can benefit you,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, like yo, man, you are to
Speaker 1: do it like this. Man, you ought to do it
Speaker 1: like that, you know, like you know, obviously it's your
Speaker 1: call at the end of the day. But at least,
Speaker 1: if I see something, I'm not gonna sit back and
Speaker 1: hold hold my nuts on you. I'm gonna speak on
Speaker 1: and say, yo, man, what about this we thought about doing?
Speaker 1: Like this? Who wo whoo? You know, so, I I
Speaker 1: absolutely I tell people all the time, like you know, Brad,
Speaker 1: you know he did his thing. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know, he he had a great, great fucking solo career,
Speaker 1: you know, but I know when it comes to this,
Speaker 1: get oh boy of ship, Ship, we're right here. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You got me so low album, man,
Speaker 1: Yeah you got it. I ain't here on trip I
Speaker 1: can't front, but on this ghetto boys ship, we're right here.
Speaker 1: Bro go back and listen to that motherfucking music, and
Speaker 1: we're right here. You know what I'm saying. We compliment
Speaker 1: each other, well like we get on that motherfucker together.
Speaker 1: Were coming to students, just like when we're go in
Speaker 1: the studio, we saw we're coming here. The chemistry like
Speaker 1: that chemistry. I don't given if we we ain't seeing
Speaker 1: each other in too three years or that don't happen.
Speaker 1: But you know, if it's been a long time before
Speaker 1: we get it actually work together, if it's been a
Speaker 1: long time that we work together, it's like like that,
Speaker 1: the chemistry clicking, just like that boom, and you know, Ship,
Speaker 1: you bring the best out of me, I'll bring the
Speaker 1: best out of you know what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 1: And so that's that that that that right there is
Speaker 1: never gonna be questioning, bro like, I like to see
Speaker 1: when when you're doing your thing, I like to see
Speaker 1: you win. So it ain't it ain't. It ain't that.
Speaker 1: But it's just my My issue is when it's ghetto
Speaker 1: boys and need to be ghetto boys. You had done
Speaker 1: your thing with your record, I would have had no
Speaker 1: problem with that, you know what I'm saying. It would
Speaker 1: have been just ye on that stage and you're doing
Speaker 1: your thing. I would have no problem. I wouldn't even
Speaker 1: ask to be a part of it. I would have
Speaker 1: just been like, oh, that's how they're doing it, because
Speaker 1: you deserve that. If they want to scar face and
Speaker 1: not get old boys, you deserve that. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You you called out enough. You've done enough
Speaker 1: to earn to be a part of a fifty year tribute.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You've done enough, you know,
Speaker 1: But if it's gonna be get old boys, they need
Speaker 1: to be ghetto boys. And it ain't scar face, it's
Speaker 1: it's Willie d and scar face. And I know some
Speaker 1: motherfucker's got in their feelings because I didn't say Willie
Speaker 1: the scar facing Bushwick Bill, But busch Wick Bill is dead.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, So that's why I smoked
Speaker 1: the way I spoke. I mean, I mean, how do
Speaker 1: you feel about that? So do you remember when you
Speaker 1: left the group? Yeah? Okay, Um, the Ghetto Boys was
Speaker 1: scar Faced Bushwick and Big Mike, all right, and you
Speaker 1: weren't in the group no more so, motherfucker couldn't put
Speaker 1: you in the group. Okay. When you came back to
Speaker 1: the group, it was scar Faced Willie bush Week Bill right, okay.
Speaker 1: So and it stayed like that until when until Bill passed.
Speaker 1: And now you didn't you forget? That was the one
Speaker 1: album we did together, and it was Ghetto Boys was
Speaker 1: scar Faced and Willie d the Good, the Bad and Ugly.
Speaker 1: Oh ship, Willie, I did for that. So that we've
Speaker 1: been here before, so time out. Is that the last
Speaker 1: album we did together? No? No, no, that was the
Speaker 1: one that that was. That was the one prior to
Speaker 1: the last album. But the Good, the Bad and Ugly
Speaker 1: was what I think. I don't I can't remember not.
Speaker 1: I don't even remember those albums. Bro. What I'm saying
Speaker 1: is this when you I don't know, Yeah, well I know.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is this is when you're no longer
Speaker 1: in the group no more. You know what ghetto boys
Speaker 1: and scar face Willie Dan period. At this point, when
Speaker 1: you speak of Bushwick Bill, you speak in the former
Speaker 1: ghetto boy Bushwick Bill. So let's be clear, like Bill
Speaker 1: is is deceased, rest in peace, but he is no
Speaker 1: longer in this group. So you you have married saying
Speaker 1: that you know, ghetto boys really the scar face you
Speaker 1: said you can say that, Yeah, you can say, I think, um,
Speaker 1: you know a lot of motherfucker's just getting their feelings
Speaker 1: and they don't really understand, you know, how it goes,
Speaker 1: and and that's fine, you know, but uh, you know
Speaker 1: it is what it is, Bro, You know it is
Speaker 1: it is, man, Like I said, Man, the next time,
Speaker 1: next time I have the opportunity to perform my mind
Speaker 1: playing tricks on me, dog, And if you're not in
Speaker 1: the building, I ain't gonna do the song I'm talking
Speaker 1: about even that my own concert. But again, ain't you
Speaker 1: know no, Willie, Willie, Bro, I love you like a
Speaker 1: big brother, man, and we're gonna always have this relationship. Man,
Speaker 1: We're gonna always agree to disagree. You said that I
Speaker 1: was fucked up for doing it. I said, I think
Speaker 1: it brought the brand back into the forefront where people
Speaker 1: can see it, and that's where that's where I am
Speaker 1: with it. It's not it's not a fight with us.
Speaker 1: We're gonna always be family. But I know how you
Speaker 1: feel about it now. So if anything ever come up,
Speaker 1: come up where it's gotta be us. If they want
Speaker 1: to hear mine playing tricks, they got to hear it
Speaker 1: with me and you, all right, and then we'll let
Speaker 1: the crowd sing Bill's part. So I take full responsibility
Speaker 1: for getting on that motherfucking stage and representing this brand
Speaker 1: very well. But they did call for face, all right.
Speaker 1: That that right there. I'll give you that. I take that.
Speaker 1: But I represented that motherfucking brand well and I always
Speaker 1: have and I always will. I disagree, Oh bullshit, Willie.
Speaker 1: I disagree. That's bullshit to represent the brand where it
Speaker 1: would have been saying you know what they called. They
Speaker 1: called for me, and they wanted me to do a
Speaker 1: get Old Boys song. I told him, fuck that. I
Speaker 1: said that I'm not doing it without Willy D. Pick
Speaker 1: another song if you if you want to do it
Speaker 1: that bad, I say, pick another song, but I'm not
Speaker 1: doing it without Willi D. That's that's what I think
Speaker 1: would have been honorable. That would have been honorable to
Speaker 1: know they ain't. No too. It's just three. Hey man,
Speaker 1: you got your opinion. I got mine, bro, And there
Speaker 1: is no um. There is no um right opinion or
Speaker 1: wrong opinion in my opinion, all right, And don't forget that.
Speaker 1: I've always be your little brother, whether we do the
Speaker 1: grammar or the other or not. Mm hmm, no motub.
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