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Speaker 1: Ghet old ghett Old Ghett old Boys, Yo, Ghetto boys,

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Speaker 1: Are you still on this ship? Yeah? I'm on that ship. Man.

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Speaker 1: you know what, let me let's leave a message, let

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00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 1: me let me, let me shoot him a text. And

423
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 1: he never returned my call. You see. And I also

424
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 1: called Questen. Let me back up. I didn't call a

425
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 1: quest I had somebody else puts the calls into him.

426
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: You know, he never called me back. You know a

427
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 1: few other people who was involved. And I get it,

428
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I'm sure they ain't calling

429
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: a lot of people back right now. I'm sure a

430
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 1: whole lot of people as fiss, which which this is

431
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Man Like, for a while, we had

432
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: to deal with gatekeepers in hip hop. They did not

433
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: want us to be involved in this thing called music.

434
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 1: I remember a time when I would go to the

435
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 1: clubs and that was only one club in Houston that

436
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: would play hip hop, and that was the Ryan Stone Rankler.

437
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: Every other club pride of itself on not playing hip hop.

438
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 1: And I remember black people, specifically with brag about how they, oh,

439
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: I don't wrap, I don't listen to that, and they

440
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: be all snobby about listening to wrap. I don't even

441
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: listen to hip hop. I don't listen. They thought that

442
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: that was some kind of some type of badge of honor,

443
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 1: to not listen to hip hop, the music of the children,

444
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: to not listen to it, to not respect them, to

445
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: not know it. You know, they thought that was a

446
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 1: badge of honor. I remember going to the Bars nightclub

447
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 1: and pushing up on the DJ and telling the DJ

448
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: play this song that song. Gangster Love played the song.

449
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: The DJ said, I can't play it. I'm gonna lose

450
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: my job. I remember telling that DJ, you want to

451
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 1: lose your job or you want to lose your teeth.

452
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: I did that for for for for the culture. That's

453
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: the type of ship I put the work, kind of

454
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 1: work I put in And dude did not play the

455
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: play the record at that moment, but he said come

456
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: back and I play it. We came right back and

457
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 1: stood over his ass. They had and they had their

458
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: people in that, and I had a whole bunch of

459
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: people in that and they was like, they put that

460
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 1: goddamn song on and only two people got on the floor.

461
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 1: They d asked the gamester love two people. But that

462
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: was a start. Now you can't go to a club

463
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: in Houston without playing hip hop without listening to hip hop.

464
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 1: You can't go nowhere. And people take that ship for granted.

465
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: They think like this ship just miraculously happened all by itself,

466
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: like boom poom poof this ship is happening. No, I

467
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: put real work in bro so I deserve to be

468
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 1: on that motherfucking stage as much to anybody. But again,

469
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: like I said, we we we had the gatekeepers at

470
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: one point, and now hip hop is old enough to

471
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: where some of us are gatekeepers. And some of us

472
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: who are gatekeepers now have decided that we are going

473
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: to keep others who are in the culture outside of

474
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: the culture the longest rearing. It's all good. Some of

475
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 1: us are keeping our own people out of the culture,

476
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,479
Speaker 1: out of certain experiences because of whatever issues that they

477
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: might have. And if you ain't gonna do this ship right,

478
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 1: I'm talking to all you motherfucker's out there, all your

479
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: motherfucker's producing hip hop blog and are putting ship out.

480
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: If you if you out there and you're showing love

481
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 1: and you're doing it the right way, I salute you.

482
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 1: I salute you like a motherfucker's I know how hard

483
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: it is, But if you're trying to hustle the game,

484
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: if you're trying to hustle hip hop, if you're throwing ship,

485
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: throwing ship together and not showing the proper respect for

486
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 1: the number one genre of music in the game period,

487
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: ain't nobody fucking with us, including country We surpassed everybody.

488
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: If you're not gonna give us I respect, don't funk

489
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: with us, get your mother fucking ass gone, don't funk

490
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: with us at all, don't don't try to give us,

491
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: don't throw throw together some fourteen minutes ship and put

492
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: fifty years of hip hop in the side of fourteen

493
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: minutes and think we're supposed to be grateful. We're not

494
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: supposed to be grateful, man. We're We're the number one

495
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: genre of music. We deserve more than that ship, bro.

496
00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: And it's not just disappointing, it's heartbreaking, bro, you know

497
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like, it's the ship is heartbreaking

498
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: because they don't respect us, and I feel like we

499
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: don't respect ourselves enough to demand more. They would have

500
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: never done that to rock and roll, never done some

501
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: ship like that for country music, they would have gave

502
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: them motherfucker's a whole show by themselves. It would have

503
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: never been fourteen minutes of eighty years of country, ninety

504
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: years of rock and roll. They would have never done

505
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: no ship like that. They shifted on us because we

506
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: don't demand more of ourselves, and we gotta stand on something, man.

507
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 1: But we gotta have principles. We gotta stand on those principles. Man.

508
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: We can't just say, oh, well, you know what I'm saying.

509
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: It's people that have have fucking built this ship for real,

510
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: and and some of us that have built it. I'm

511
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: fortunate enough to be doing good, unfortunate enough to be

512
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: doing well financially for myself. But there are others who

513
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 1: are not doing so well who built this ship, and

514
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: and we shipped on them, and we try to call

515
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: him bummy. We try to say that they don't they

516
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 1: ain't got no money, or they fucked it up, they

517
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: sucked the bag up and all this ship. Instead of

518
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 1: being appreciative and saying, you know what what can we

519
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: do to help out? You know what can we do? Were?

520
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: You know? We we we gotta do better. Yeah, Willie

521
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:29,959
Speaker 1: in in in my opinion that um, that segment of

522
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: that show was big. Man. It was huge, and regardless

523
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: of how you feel about it, man, it just let

524
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: the those twelve million of having many viewers see hip hop.

525
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: You know that, uh, what you thought was a fat

526
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: turned into the biggest genre of music ever. They already

527
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: know that, brad okay, but they thought it was but

528
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: they thought that was a fan. But but now now

529
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 1: now it's in your face. You know, fifty years of

530
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: this ship and and and it's fifty more to go.

531
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: I agree with you. You know, you should have been there.

532
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: I should have called you, but I shouldn't have opted

533
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: out not to do it if you didn't come. You

534
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying, like to to to do my mind?

535
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: Playing tricks on the Grammars catapulted us to a whole

536
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: another level. Bro. I think, I know, I know that,

537
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: I know. The face value of it, to be seen

538
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: on the motherfucker is one thing. But the song, as

539
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: historical as that song is, man, it's it's here, it's

540
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: still here. And I don't know, Willie, you would have

541
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: probably got up on that motherfucker and did the same

542
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: thing you did at the baseball park. Man, and it's

543
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: mother fucking long, no no different when you got directions, Bro,

544
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: the right directions, but right instructions. But but I would say,

545
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: Bro that there is there is no way possible. I

546
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: don't It's nobody who can convince me that that was

547
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: the right move because, like I said, the moment was

548
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: too big. The moment was too big. It's like it's

549
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: like somebody, it's like somebody doing doing um doing something

550
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: with they're recognizing the record labels of hip hop, the

551
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: greatest labels, and Ship and and Jay not being invited,

552
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, or master P not being invited,

553
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: which by the way, I didn't see master P on

554
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: that stage either. I don't know what happened. Like I said,

555
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,239
Speaker 1: I don't know people's personal issues, well business, but I

556
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: know ain't no way Masterpiece should not have been on

557
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: that stage. There's no way possible with with with what

558
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: he contributed, what he brought to the table. Yeah, yeah,

559
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: Modi you know what I'm saying. You know, uh, Ship Houdini.

560
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: You know, like we could go on and on and

561
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: on and so people, but this is why they should

562
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: not have half as did it, you know, like show

563
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: us give us our real respect. J J fad. You

564
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, give us the real respect.

565
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: I know Q probably didn't, didn't didn't, he'd probably turned

566
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: it down because I'm sure they called que But in

567
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: any event, I don't know what happened. I don't know,

568
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying that they the respect was not there.

569
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: And this is and this indicative of how often that

570
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: we allow motherfucker's to just you know, steamroll us man,

571
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: and and and put us in this little box, this

572
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: little Just be lucky. Just be grateful that you got that.

573
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: Just be happy that you got fourteen minutes. Just be now,

574
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: we're beyond that. If this was if they had given

575
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: hip hop fourteen minutes twenty years ago, years ago, Okay,

576
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: that's understandable, because they didn't. We we we were knew,

577
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: we knew this thing years ago. Fine, but dude, we're

578
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: fifty years deep and we're the best at what we're

579
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: the best. We'll let me put it like this, because

580
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: being the best is suggestive, uh subjective, But we are

581
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: number one. We are the number one genre of of

582
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: of music. We sell the most. We're killing everybody. Ain't

583
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: nobody fucking with the hip hop. You can say what

584
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: you want to say about it, but hip hop is

585
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: number one. Go to any club anywhere in the world

586
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: and you're gonna hear some hip hop. So it needs

587
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: to be respected and we need to demand more of ourselves.

588
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: And we should not hustle the brand. We should not

589
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: hustle the the the the brand of hip hop, the

590
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: brand of hip hop. We should not hustle that. You know, No,

591
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: we should not allow people to hustle it, not even

592
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: the people that are inside. It's almost like those gate

593
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: black gate keepers who who ran the Grammys, who produced

594
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,239
Speaker 1: the Grammys, who was a part of those decisions making? Uh,

595
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: those that decision making. To me, it's a kind to

596
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: having a black mayor or black chief of police and

597
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: black people are still getting catching the blues in their city.

598
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: We got a black chief, we got symbolism, but we

599
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: what we don't have is, uh, we don't have a

600
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: fast shape, we don't have a fact, we don't we

601
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: don't have a level playing field. We're still not getting

602
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: our justice. But even though we have a black chief

603
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: of police, look at what happens in Memphis. You got

604
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: a black chief of police, you got all these black

605
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: officers and not one of them had the presence of

606
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: mind to show some humanity, to show some empathy for this,

607
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: for this man, not one. It's fucked up, bro, you

608
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's fucked up. So we talked

609
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: about how you know, we should be on the inside

610
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: and we need to have our own ship, and when

611
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: we get our opportunity like that, we don't. We don't

612
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: look out for each other, you know what I'm saying.

613
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: So that's that's that's my issue, bro, that's my issue.

614
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: And it can't nobody telling me that that was the

615
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: right move. And people got their own opinions and all

616
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: that ship. But like I said, they didn't do this ship.

617
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: They ain't put thirty three years and like I did,

618
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: I'm on thirty four right now. So they didn't put

619
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: that thirty you're on thirty four. They didn't do that.

620
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We did that, and we

621
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: should share in the glory, you know what I'm saying.

622
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: If we're gonna we're gonna, if we're gonna be there

623
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: for for for the agony, you know, if we're gonna

624
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: be there for for the for the for the mis

625
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: qs and and the and the uh and and and

626
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: and and and the trauma and the drama. We should

627
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: be there for the triumphs, you know what I'm saying,

628
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: and the accolades as a group, not as a member.

629
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: And I gotta say, you don't need I'm gonna reiterate

630
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: that and reiterate that you don't need ghetto boys. I

631
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: don't need ghetto boys. But if we're gonna do get

632
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: oo boys, let's do ghetto boys. And that's why I

633
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: want to say, I want to make sure that every

634
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: all these mother because I here know that don't be

635
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: trying to hustle our brand. And you ain't, including me

636
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: and Brad, don't try to hustle our motherfucking brand because

637
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,479
Speaker 1: I ain't going forward. I ain't letting a ship slide.

638
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna speak on the ship. I don't

639
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: like this whole, this whole podcast. That's the part. The

640
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: piece that I don't like about this podcast ship is

641
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: that you know, this thing was done in a way

642
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: where I had no choice but to speak on this.

643
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: This is typically something that we would discuss in private

644
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: because we've had our grinds to you know, gripes and

645
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: ship in the past. But We've always addressed our ship personally,

646
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: this really ain't no ship. They need to be hearing.

647
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: But since it was addressed in a public forum, then

648
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: I had to you know, it was the the transgression

649
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: aggression in my opinion, was done publicly, then you know

650
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: the rebuttal had to be done. You know, it had

651
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: to be addressed publicly. So you know, that's why I'm

652
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: at with brooted podcast. Will be right back after the

653
00:34:55,160 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: set well and and and really I understand that, but

654
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 1: you just understand that it wasn't my call to make.

655
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: It was at the end of the day, Like I said,

656
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: you could have said, no, I'm not working with it

657
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, no matter what they say.

658
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you could have said,

659
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: I'm not fucking with it. If I'm not taking this

660
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: dude that I sit here and do that Ghet Old

661
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: Boys podcast with every morning, I'm not gonna do it.

662
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: And here's another thing, Brad, we are for renewal on

663
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: this podcast. We're doing this podcast together. It's Ghettold Boys podcast.

664
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: Wouldn't it have made more sense, wouldn't it would have

665
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: been a what's what greater selling point than to go

666
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: get the bag than to than than for them to

667
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: see Ghetto Boys on that biggest stage together, the dudes

668
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: that do this podcast together, that host this podcast together.

669
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: What what what greater argument we could have had to

670
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: get the bag then then to be on that motherfucking

671
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: stage together, and and and and call the motherfucker the

672
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: next day and say, yeah, you so, what were we doing?

673
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: You like that ship all? I dropped that bad Willie.

674
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: There ain't a better selling point. It's it's a hell

675
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: of a selling point, but it's still a selling point

676
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,959
Speaker 1: though it ain't strong, bro, it's just not as strong. Well,

677
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: I mean, we we agree to disagree. I think that

678
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: it's just as strong, and I think it's just as

679
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: sucking strong because it was representing very well. If it's

680
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: just as strong, why do we do this podcast together? Why? Why? Why? Why?

681
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: Why aren't you doing this podcast by yourself? Why aren't

682
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: I doing this podcast by myself? Because we're stronger together.

683
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 1: But that's why, that's the same thing on that stage.

684
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk how many hits you got.

685
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 1: I don't care how great these niggas thank you are

686
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: or how great you are when you funk with that

687
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: Ghetto Boys ship. It's a different level. It's a different

688
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: motherfucking level. Can nobody tell me different. I've seen it

689
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: with my own eyes for thirty three years. It's a

690
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: different level, and you know it, so that cannot be denied.

691
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: The reason why we do this motherfucker together, it's called

692
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: get old Boys reloaded, because we're stronger together. You can

693
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: do this motherfucker by yourself and it'll get numbers. I

694
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 1: can do it by myself, you'll get numbers. But together,

695
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: the motherfucker it's unstoppable, exactly, And I agree with that too.

696
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 1: But the brand was still represenced, somebody said, But usually

697
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: everything that comes after that is, yeah, the brand is

698
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: still represented. Well, Willie trust me, ask him, don't take mine,

699
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: don't take mine, don't don't don't take my word for it,

700
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: asked the public. You know. Yeah, it would have been

701
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: stronger with you there, but it was still represented very well. Bro.

702
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 1: I didn't miss you. I didn't miss no word words.

703
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: I didn't. It was still there when you and all

704
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: I can say. All I can say is, man, I

705
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: show hate you feel like that because that was a

706
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: big gass moment, all right, But the next time they

707
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: do it and they call you and they don't call me. Man, Okay,

708
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: they they gotta call somebody first. That ain't the point.

709
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: It ain't who they call, it's what happens after they

710
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: make the call. Do you call me and say they

711
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: mentioned ghetto boys, they won't get oo boys? But I

712
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: call you and say they won't get Oo boys. I will.

713
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 1: That's a fact that they didn't. Never say never got

714
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: a call. I never got a call for getto Boys

715
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: and not called you. I never got a call for

716
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: getto Boys and not called you. I'll take your word

717
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: for it. I don't believe you. But do you think

718
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: I gotta call for get God? Damn right? I think

719
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 1: you gotta cover before huh yeah, damn Willie? You think

720
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: I gotta get a call for ghetto boys on? Man? Listen, listen, listen,

721
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: bro come on listen man. I'm gonna stop you right there,

722
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: my nigga, because I ain't never got no motherfucking call

723
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: from no ghetto boys, and I called you ever and

724
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: I never will. As a matter of fact, we don't

725
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: even have the same people controlling our ship, man, you

726
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, I got a totally different

727
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: manager than you, so I'm probably not gonna never get

728
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 1: no call, no way forget Oh Boys. But if somebody

729
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: called me directly and say they want to Ghetto Boys,

730
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: most definitely gonna call you. Okay, So let me break

731
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: it down. So over the years, as we put out

732
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: these albums, every time we put out a Ghetto Boys album,

733
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: you put out a scar face album right behind it.

734
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: It's easy to look up if you see the frown.

735
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: But that's a scar face album that comes out right

736
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: after ghetto boy album every time. Who who did that? Me?

737
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: Brad Jordan? Yeah, but I put out an album, look

738
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: it up. Yeah, you put out alm after get Oo

739
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: Boys every time. So when we go out on the road,

740
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: we got that doing five six shows or whatever, m

741
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: and then you know, the promotion stops. We stopped promoting,

742
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,479
Speaker 1: we stopped doing shows. You take your break, you drop

743
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: your album, and then you go out and do all

744
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: the shows. So you're saying that a motherfucker. Don't they

745
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: never called you and said, yo, man, what about Ghetto Boys? No,

746
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: and you and you just said, now, I ain't doing

747
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: Getto Boys. I'm doing myself, doing my own ship. No,

748
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: they ain't never called me and said Ghetto Boys, I

749
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: don't believe yet, well, then talk to you. Talked to

750
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 1: Dub you know, actually was man and managing me back

751
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: when we were doing that, calling you better. And if

752
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: I if I ever dropped the album behind ghetto boys,

753
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: I dropped it on rapp a lot, all right, remember that?

754
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: Don't you ever forget that? Oh, I can't forget what

755
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would never, I wouldn't never do nothing

756
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 1: to try to advotage your ship, Willie. Ever, it doesn't

757
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: benefit me to sabotage you. Man, What I look like

758
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: trying to sabotage you? Man, you look like Brad Jordan.

759
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: Then con countibleize, cannibalize your project. You look like Brad

760
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: Jordan to me, to countible like some ship Brad Jordon

761
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 1: might do, because I know Brad Jordan as motherfucking sneaky

762
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: ass nigger, and I know Brad Jordan will do some

763
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: sneaky ship if you have to. I know that, I

764
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 1: know Brad Jordan do a lot of thinking right there.

765
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: You'll never have to worry about me doing to you,

766
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 1: all right that part? Oh yeah, I'm a deep ass thinking.

767
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: But I would never cannibalize your projects ever. As a

768
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: matter of fact, Man, I Mario. You gotta you got

769
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: a lot of tech to testing in. Man, you got

770
00:41:55,680 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: some ship. Come hook this dude up. Bro, come dude,

771
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: William do some ship like that. Man. One thing about it, man, Bro,

772
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,959
Speaker 1: I'm calling a strike a striking a ball the ball

773
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: and I and I'm I've always you know, like I

774
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: think I've actually put the brand before myself too many times.

775
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I haven't been selfish enough. Actually,

776
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: you know, I put the Ghetto Boys brand before my

777
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 1: my brand many times. If when I when we've done

778
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: records and ship and it's time to do it, I

779
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: could be working on some solo ship and we did,

780
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: get ready to do get old boy album. Whatever I got,

781
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: it's going to get Old Boys. It's immediately. Like it's

782
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 1: because I'm always like, okay, best for far. But whatever

783
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: I got, you know, And like I said, bro, you

784
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 1: you you've done, You've done well for yourself. Bro, I'm

785
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: not I'm not that dude. Like you know what I'm saying,

786
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: Like I'm it's for me. It's the principle. Like so

787
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: it's not about being no fucking I hate uh being

788
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: no jealous because when you win. To me, it's like

789
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: a win for me. It's just like I got so

790
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: many homies that are really good at what they do,

791
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:05,439
Speaker 1: that are like really really like brilliant dudes and really

792
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: paid paid dudes, were respecting and ship and I move

793
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: around with these guys when we go to certain we're

794
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: going in certain spaces, it's their time, it's their ship.

795
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fly on the wall, and I'm happy to

796
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: see my dude get it all. It's like I like it.

797
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: It's like like I like that ship. I'll be smiling

798
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: and ship like my boy and maybe all over my boy.

799
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, This all over them. Like

800
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: even when I've been with you sometimes we've been been

801
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 1: places and Motherucker's be all over you. I'm like, yeah,

802
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I'm cool with that. You

803
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: know that's my homie. You know I've even we've been

804
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: with Reggie. You know what I'm saying. Me and Reggie

805
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: going into boxing world. You know what I'm saying, a

806
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: lot of people in hip hop may not know Reggie Johnson,

807
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: but Reggie Johnson is a two time motherfucking champion. So

808
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: when Reddy Johnson going to the boxing world, we're going

809
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: to we go to boxing matches. Man, people all over

810
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: Reggie Man, I'm talking about it all over them, like

811
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: Reggie Johns, Reggie freak. Readon. You can autograph, give me

812
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: a good picture, and good picture like yeah, man, shine shine,

813
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: goddamn it. That's the homie, you know. So I I

814
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: love to see mine, you know. I love the people

815
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: see people I funk with. Get it, man. If I

816
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 1: funk with you, I'm stuck with you. So it ain't

817
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: never gonna be no hate for me. You know. If

818
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: I see something, if I see a hole in your arm,

819
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you. You know, hey, man, you know,

820
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: pass that up. If I see something that can benefit you,

821
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, like yo, man, you are to

822
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 1: do it like this. Man, you ought to do it

823
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: like that, you know, like you know, obviously it's your

824
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: call at the end of the day. But at least,

825
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: if I see something, I'm not gonna sit back and

826
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: hold hold my nuts on you. I'm gonna speak on

827
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: and say, yo, man, what about this we thought about doing?

828
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: Like this? Who wo whoo? You know, so, I I

829
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: absolutely I tell people all the time, like you know, Brad,

830
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,959
Speaker 1: you know he did his thing. You know what I'm saying.

831
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: You know, he he had a great, great fucking solo career,

832
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: you know, but I know when it comes to this,

833
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: get oh boy of ship, Ship, we're right here. You

834
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You got me so low album, man,

835
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: Yeah you got it. I ain't here on trip I

836
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: can't front, but on this ghetto boys ship, we're right here.

837
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: Bro go back and listen to that motherfucking music, and

838
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: we're right here. You know what I'm saying. We compliment

839
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: each other, well like we get on that motherfucker together.

840
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: Were coming to students, just like when we're go in

841
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: the studio, we saw we're coming here. The chemistry like

842
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 1: that chemistry. I don't given if we we ain't seeing

843
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: each other in too three years or that don't happen.

844
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: But you know, if it's been a long time before

845
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: we get it actually work together, if it's been a

846
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: long time that we work together, it's like like that,

847
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: the chemistry clicking, just like that boom, and you know, Ship,

848
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: you bring the best out of me, I'll bring the

849
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: best out of you know what I'm saying. You know,

850
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: And so that's that that that that right there is

851
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,959
Speaker 1: never gonna be questioning, bro like, I like to see

852
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: when when you're doing your thing, I like to see

853
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: you win. So it ain't it ain't. It ain't that.

854
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: But it's just my My issue is when it's ghetto

855
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: boys and need to be ghetto boys. You had done

856
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: your thing with your record, I would have had no

857
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: problem with that, you know what I'm saying. It would

858
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: have been just ye on that stage and you're doing

859
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: your thing. I would have no problem. I wouldn't even

860
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: ask to be a part of it. I would have

861
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: just been like, oh, that's how they're doing it, because

862
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: you deserve that. If they want to scar face and

863
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: not get old boys, you deserve that. You know what

864
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You you called out enough. You've done enough

865
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: to earn to be a part of a fifty year tribute.

866
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You've done enough, you know,

867
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: But if it's gonna be get old boys, they need

868
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: to be ghetto boys. And it ain't scar face, it's

869
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: it's Willie d and scar face. And I know some

870
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: motherfucker's got in their feelings because I didn't say Willie

871
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 1: the scar facing Bushwick Bill, But busch Wick Bill is dead.

872
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, So that's why I smoked

873
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: the way I spoke. I mean, I mean, how do

874
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: you feel about that? So do you remember when you

875
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: left the group? Yeah? Okay, Um, the Ghetto Boys was

876
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: scar Faced Bushwick and Big Mike, all right, and you

877
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: weren't in the group no more so, motherfucker couldn't put

878
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: you in the group. Okay. When you came back to

879
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: the group, it was scar Faced Willie bush Week Bill right, okay.

880
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 1: So and it stayed like that until when until Bill passed.

881
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: And now you didn't you forget? That was the one

882
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: album we did together, and it was Ghetto Boys was

883
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 1: scar Faced and Willie d the Good, the Bad and Ugly.

884
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: Oh ship, Willie, I did for that. So that we've

885
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: been here before, so time out. Is that the last

886
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: album we did together? No? No, no, that was the

887
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: one that that was. That was the one prior to

888
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: the last album. But the Good, the Bad and Ugly

889
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: was what I think. I don't I can't remember not.

890
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: I don't even remember those albums. Bro. What I'm saying

891
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: is this when you I don't know, Yeah, well I know.

892
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is this is when you're no longer

893
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,479
Speaker 1: in the group no more. You know what ghetto boys

894
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: and scar face Willie Dan period. At this point, when

895
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 1: you speak of Bushwick Bill, you speak in the former

896
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: ghetto boy Bushwick Bill. So let's be clear, like Bill

897
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: is is deceased, rest in peace, but he is no

898
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: longer in this group. So you you have married saying

899
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: that you know, ghetto boys really the scar face you

900
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: said you can say that, Yeah, you can say, I think, um,

901
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: you know a lot of motherfucker's just getting their feelings

902
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,479
Speaker 1: and they don't really understand, you know, how it goes,

903
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: and and that's fine, you know, but uh, you know

904
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: it is what it is, Bro, You know it is

905
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: it is, man, Like I said, Man, the next time,

906
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: next time I have the opportunity to perform my mind

907
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: playing tricks on me, dog, And if you're not in

908
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: the building, I ain't gonna do the song I'm talking

909
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: about even that my own concert. But again, ain't you

910
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: know no, Willie, Willie, Bro, I love you like a

911
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: big brother, man, and we're gonna always have this relationship. Man,

912
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: We're gonna always agree to disagree. You said that I

913
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: was fucked up for doing it. I said, I think

914
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,439
Speaker 1: it brought the brand back into the forefront where people

915
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: can see it, and that's where that's where I am

916
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: with it. It's not it's not a fight with us.

917
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: We're gonna always be family. But I know how you

918
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: feel about it now. So if anything ever come up,

919
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: come up where it's gotta be us. If they want

920
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: to hear mine playing tricks, they got to hear it

921
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: with me and you, all right, and then we'll let

922
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: the crowd sing Bill's part. So I take full responsibility

923
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 1: for getting on that motherfucking stage and representing this brand

924
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: very well. But they did call for face, all right.

925
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: That that right there. I'll give you that. I take that.

926
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 1: But I represented that motherfucking brand well and I always

927
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: have and I always will. I disagree, Oh bullshit, Willie.

928
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: I disagree. That's bullshit to represent the brand where it

929
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: would have been saying you know what they called. They

930
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: called for me, and they wanted me to do a

931
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: get Old Boys song. I told him, fuck that. I

932
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: said that I'm not doing it without Willy D. Pick

933
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 1: another song if you if you want to do it

934
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: that bad, I say, pick another song, but I'm not

935
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: doing it without Willi D. That's that's what I think

936
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: would have been honorable. That would have been honorable to

937
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: know they ain't. No too. It's just three. Hey man,

938
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: you got your opinion. I got mine, bro, And there

939
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: is no um. There is no um right opinion or

940
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: wrong opinion in my opinion, all right, And don't forget that.

941
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: I've always be your little brother, whether we do the

942
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: grammar or the other or not. Mm hmm, no motub.

943
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: This episode was produced by A King and brought to

944
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:13,400
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945
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