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Speaker 1: God bless football, Mike Golick.

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Speaker 2: God blessed football.

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Speaker 3: Taylor, God bless football, Stu.

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Speaker 2: Gots thank you, Taylor. No, mikey a today he is uh,

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Speaker 2: he is out. We have a Mike Golick with us.

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Speaker 2: He was uh.

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Speaker 1: He was part of the call the Sunday night game

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Speaker 1: the Patriots and the Bills and might before we get

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Speaker 1: to that. Taylor and I were just laughing before he

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Speaker 1: came on. The NFL wins every year. We're five weeks

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Speaker 1: into the season, Mike, there were no U defeated teams left,

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Speaker 1: and there were just about every city, every team in

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Speaker 1: the NFL feels like, hey, you know what, maybe this season.

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Speaker 2: Is our season.

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Speaker 1: They always win except the Jets, right except the Jets.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I was I was waiting for that. But yes,

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Speaker 4: there's there's no undefeated teams. First time in a long

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Speaker 4: time we haven't gone to a five and zero team.

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Speaker 2: So there is kind of a list at the top.

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Speaker 2: But it's amazing. Every year we know who the bottom

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Speaker 2: feeders are, right, Yes, we know the band teams. We

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Speaker 2: just don't know who's good. Right exactly? Is Trevor Lawrence good?

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Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence is not good in the fourth quarter. I

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Speaker 4: mean his his rating in the fourth quarter. He doesn't

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Speaker 4: have a touchdown pass in the fourth quarter. He has

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Speaker 4: interceptions in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: But he he's.

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Speaker 4: Like a roller coaster. I mean he runs well. He

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Speaker 4: dropped that ball into to Thomas in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 4: on on that last touchdown drive.

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Speaker 2: That was a phenomenal, beautiful pass.

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Speaker 4: Felt looked like a newborn giraffe falling down twice on

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Speaker 4: the goal line and then getting up and scoring.

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Speaker 2: So he struggles in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 4: But Liam Khne has got this team playing physical. They're not,

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Speaker 4: at least at this point, relying on the arm of

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Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence. They're the fourth leading rushing team in the

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Speaker 4: league coming into this weekend, and they've been good on defense.

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Speaker 4: The lines of scrimmage have been good now. Both defenses

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Speaker 4: gave a points yesterday last night, both Kansas City and Jacksonville.

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Speaker 4: But Jacksonville is playing a physical brand of ball. And

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Speaker 4: much like my game Sunday night where New England was

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Speaker 4: in Buffalo and Mike Vrabel looked at it.

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Speaker 2: As a measuring stick game.

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Speaker 4: Sure, that's what Liam Cohen was doing with this Jacksonville team,

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Speaker 4: kind of measuring Now. It was a home game, different

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Speaker 4: than New England go on the road to Buffalo, but

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Speaker 4: you're playing the Kansas City Chiefs. Though the Chiefs aren't

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Speaker 4: really the Chiefs yet, but they seem to be going

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Speaker 4: in that direction. It was this is a game Jacksonville

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Speaker 4: normally loses, but they went blow for blow with Kansas

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Speaker 4: City and had the ball last and had a scoring

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Speaker 4: touchdown drive.

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Speaker 2: That was a big difference for me.

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Speaker 1: I talked about this with Taylor earlier today in our

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Speaker 1: number one. That's a game Jacksonville when they go down

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Speaker 1: fourteen to nothing to a team like the Chiefs, they usually.

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Speaker 2: Folded up and the Chiefs will run away with that game.

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Speaker 1: But this is a different Jacksonville team with a different coach, Mike.

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Speaker 1: They played tough last night. You have to give them credit.

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Speaker 1: Whether you like Lawrence or not, and everything seems difficult

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Speaker 1: for Trevor Lawrence. But whether you like them or not,

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Speaker 1: you have to like their team and you have to

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Speaker 1: commend them for not folding down fourteen nothing first half.

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Speaker 2: To Patrick Mahomes, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Listen, balanced to attack, twenty five passes, twenty six runs,

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Speaker 4: But that's a key point. They were down fourteen to nothing.

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Speaker 4: Then they're down twenty eight to twenty four, So they're

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Speaker 4: down early, they come back, then they're down late. So

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Speaker 4: a couple of chances for the old Jacksonville Jaguars to

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Speaker 4: But they starting with a Bucker kickoff that goes out

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Speaker 2: The forty crazy is just crazy. It is.

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Speaker 4: It is crazy. But then Jacksonville going down. I guess,

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Speaker 4: I guess while you have to praise jacks without a doubt,

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Speaker 4: Sea Spagnolo Kansas City defense a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yep, Mike, maybe the play of the game was Devin

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Speaker 3: Lloyd's pick six for ninety nine yards. He's coming off

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Speaker 3: winning AFC Defensive Player of the Month. Is Devin Lloyd

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Speaker 3: having a moment right now?

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Speaker 2: Oh? He absolutely is.

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Speaker 4: They didn't redo his deal or didn't extend him, so

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Speaker 4: he's like taking it out on all his opponents, you know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there are probably a lot of football fans

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Speaker 4: who don't know of the guy, right and he's having

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Speaker 4: four interceptions already this year and taking that one of

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Speaker 2: The length of a football field.

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Speaker 4: He's having himself a year, and that's what you need

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Speaker 4: on a team that is going to have a new coach,

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Speaker 4: going to have some new players.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: I keep going back to New England and Buffalo. New

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Speaker 4: England has twenty seven new players from the fifty three

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Speaker 4: man roster last year. They're like a college portal team, right,

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Speaker 4: That's what happened in with new head coaches. You kind

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Speaker 4: of you kind of you know, have new guys, not

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Speaker 4: not saying obviously Devin is a new guy, but there

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Speaker 4: are new pieces that they win in an offensive line

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Speaker 4: to get into help. But boy, he has been playing

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Speaker 4: incredible ball.

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Speaker 1: Tell you set that up nicely. But what do you

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Speaker 1: think Mike was going to say? Like his response was

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Speaker 1: gonna be what he's not having a moment.

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Speaker 3: Of course, I'm just being a good teammate. I'm tossing

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Speaker 3: the ball up for Golick and then letting him come around, and.

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Speaker 2: I can't jump that high to Spike.

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Speaker 3: But stude, Devin Lloyd's probably waking up today and being like,

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Speaker 3: thank god I didn't get that contract done this offseason

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Speaker 3: because yesterday's price is not today's price.

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Speaker 1: He shouldn't take another snap. I mean, not one more.

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Speaker 1: He should resign right now. He should re up right now.

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Speaker 4: He is, uh, I tell you, I mean what what? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he's in his he's in his fourth year. Uh you

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Speaker 4: know it was a first rounder obviously, so uh yeah,

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Speaker 4: he's he's setting himself up nicely.

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Speaker 2: He really is having a breakout season. Mike.

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Speaker 1: I just can't, like, I cannot put my finger on

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Speaker 1: what's wrong with Kansas City. You see them like they've

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Speaker 1: looked better offensively the last couple of weeks. But Mahomes

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Speaker 1: speaking of that pick six ninety nine yards the other

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Speaker 1: way with Devin Lloyd, That's just not something that usually

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Speaker 1: happens to Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: No, it doesn't.

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Speaker 4: And he was running the ball well, I mean, but

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Speaker 4: this offense, No, that doesn't normally happen to him. But

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Speaker 4: he's not going to go through a season without interceptions.

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Speaker 4: They have more issues than Pat throwing a pick there.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they have Patrick Mahomes is the leading rusher

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Speaker 4: of the team, is a leading rusher of the team.

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Speaker 4: Crazy crazy, You have Kareem Hunt, Isaiah Pacheco and Mahomes

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Speaker 4: is a leading rusher. I mean that that makes no sense.

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Speaker 4: They got Xavier Worthy back last week, and certainly he helps.

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Speaker 4: Rashi Rice will be back in a couple of weeks,

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Speaker 4: so they'll they'll have their complement of receivers, but defensively

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Speaker 4: giving up points the way they did not getting a

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Speaker 4: lot of pressure on the quarterback. Pat Pat certainly not

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Speaker 4: normally doesn't throw a pick, you know, six that long,

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Speaker 4: but he is certainly not the issue. He's running the

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Speaker 4: ball well, I mean, thank god, because nobody else is.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Mike was the biggest winner this week. Drake may

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Speaker 3: kind of announcing himself to the rest of the NFL like, Hey,

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Speaker 3: I'm trending towards being a top ten quarterback in this Leeak.

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Speaker 2: I think that whole team.

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Speaker 4: I think the whole team, absolutely, the whole team. Again,

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Speaker 4: that series without question and for Vrabel again brings toughness

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Speaker 4: to a team and looked at the game as a

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Speaker 4: it was how close were they which again Mike knows

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Speaker 4: there are no moral victories, but at least it is

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Speaker 4: kind of still a test on where your team is.

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Speaker 4: You get blown out or you know, do you make

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Speaker 4: it a game? And they made it a game. They

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Speaker 4: were up six to three at halftime. And Buffalo comes

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Speaker 4: So now here's a moment. Okay. So New England had

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Speaker 2: How does New England answer?

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Speaker 4: They answer with a touchdown, and then Buffalo throws an

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Speaker 4: It was an impressive showing in this game from beginning

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Speaker 4: to end for New England.

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Speaker 1: It seems like the plan was pretty clear for New England.

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Speaker 1: Like Rabel, that was always Brabel's job. He didn't want

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Speaker 2: Guy that replaced Belichick.

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Speaker 1: They got a bridge to get him past that, and

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Speaker 1: Rabel just waited and played golf with us in Lake Tahoe.

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Speaker 2: I just waited and waited and waited.

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Speaker 1: Mike Rabel's a good fucking coach, Mike Jeez, he's so good.

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Speaker 1: He's organized his team's play so hard.

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Speaker 4: He is, He's a and he brings an air of

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Speaker 4: toughness to that team, and like I said, twenty seven

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Speaker 4: So a lot of switching around, a lot of getting

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Speaker 4: only I think the fourth time in NFL history that

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Speaker 4: two back to back coaches have been former players, Gied

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Speaker 4: Mayo and then Mike Vrabel. Obviously it didn't work out

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Speaker 4: right he was just Biden his time between jobs and

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Speaker 4: Tahoe swinging that monster driver. It just brushes drives. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: he is an excellent coach. Yeah, it gets a lot

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Speaker 3: The other takeaway I think I had from Bill's Patriots

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Speaker 3: I'm still here. I'm still a wide receiver one in

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Speaker 4: Understand when he is four years with the Bills from

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Speaker 4: four years and receptions obviously goes to Houston, blows his

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Speaker 2: He is a year removed from a blown out.

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Speaker 4: ACL at thirty one years old, and he obviously started

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Speaker 2: So, I mean, what he's doing.

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Speaker 4: Is incredible, first back to back one hundred yard receiver

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Speaker 4: in the defense for Drake May. But Drake May escaping

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Speaker 4: the pocket, rolling right, hanging in their big quarterback can

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Speaker 4: shake some tackles, doesn't go down easy. And when you

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Speaker 4: think he's throwing the ball away, I mean he and

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Speaker 4: Stefan Diggs have a kind of a great communication, silent communication,

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Speaker 1: Mike, were you surprised that all of the Broncos beat

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Speaker 4: No, I listen, I wasn't surprised Buffalo loss, and I

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Speaker 2: Look at at our.

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Speaker 4: they're out there anyway. You're asking them to run block

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Speaker 1: That's so crazy when you consider running the football is

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Speaker 2: Yes, I did not get that at all. Mike.

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Speaker 1: Should we stop asking if the Cults are a good

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Speaker 4: They are doing things better than the Greatest Show on Turf.

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Speaker 4: The Kurt Warrener led Rams are doing offensively, which is amazing,

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Speaker 2: The ball over.

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Speaker 4: You have an all world tight end and rookie Tyler

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Speaker 4: And now we used to kind of mock the NFC

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Speaker 2: Yes, you're very excited. You feel good for the AFC South.

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Speaker 4: It seems like I do you know, I like it

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Speaker 2: Mike.

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Speaker 1: We have just assumed that our team is never going

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Speaker 2: It's just it's never gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: Between the Jets and the Browns. Now, the Browns at

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Speaker 4: It's just it's a problem because Stefanski and Barry aren't

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Speaker 4: we go back other coaches and other gms, and they've

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Speaker 2: It's been awful.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Jets and Browns, imagine if you're a Jet

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Speaker 4: Five Sam, Sam Donald and h Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 2: Think about it.

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Speaker 2: That's just amazing to me.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm glad you guys mentioned that game, because if

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Speaker 2: So well I got news they're not playing for you guys.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe me. I know, I know, but it's

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Speaker 4: Or like, is that an eighty eight or in eighty

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Speaker 1: I think Buffalo, when you're at home divisional game, you

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Speaker 2: You have to listen.

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Speaker 4: I get the white out early in the season because

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Speaker 4: white out, you know, in November or December, right, Mike, how.

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Speaker 1: Would you have handled And I can't believe that this

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Speaker 2: On that team.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I know Jonathan Gannon apologized for kind of

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Speaker 2: It's just it's just listen. I know the people make mistakes,

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Speaker 4: It's not like the crazy guy intercepts the ball, tries

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Speaker 4: by the offensive team. That's a crazy play. We've seen

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Speaker 2: It's his own fault. It's his own fault for doing it.

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Speaker 4: Quite honestly, I'm kind of surprised because it was called

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Speaker 4: don't know if o't have overturned it.

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Speaker 2: Not enough proof, right, even making it examinable. Was crazy?

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Speaker 4: Run into the frigging end zone with the ball, no

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Speaker 2: Yes, Taylor put it on the pole.

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Speaker 1: Can you feel bad for a guy that you yourself

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Speaker 4: Oh forget Reggie, You talk about Jerome or Seth Joiner.

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Speaker 1: Would have ended that guy like as Robert Sally'll fucking

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that would have been. That would have been

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Speaker 3: How do you feel about teams going in shotgun on

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Speaker 4: I'm a fan of the quarterback under the center, But

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Speaker 2: You know he's gonna get some.

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Speaker 4: Can't do that anymore, quite honestly. I mean, it's just

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Speaker 1: How can a guy fall, trip over his offensive line,

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Speaker 4: How is that possible, especially that close to the goal

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Speaker 2: I've been thinking about it all day. I can't stop

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Speaker 4: And Chris Jones barely moved on the right offensive line

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Speaker 4: But yeah, he literally fell down twice and got up

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Speaker 2: How about our boy, Tony Bisselli.

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Speaker 1: I mean he is running that organization now, he's actually working.

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Speaker 2: He's got a real job.

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Speaker 1: He's not doing what we do, but he has put

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Speaker 2: They have a good team, Mike like, Tony like, and

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Speaker 1: And yet these two teams have seemed to figure it out.

440
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 1: But Jacksonville more importantly with Bisselli running the running the operations,

441
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 1: there right coach, and that coach is taking a quarterback

442
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,399
Speaker 1: who we all thought was going to be great, and

443
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 1: he's making that quarterback great.

444
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 2: Yeah he is.

445
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:16,160
Speaker 4: Again I think, not to over blow it, but he's

446
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 4: not been great in the fourth quarter. He's still need

447
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 4: to get better in the fourth quarter. But again, they

448
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 4: have a running game. They have a running game to

449
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 4: help the passing game, and they have a tough defense.

450
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 4: They're playing physical football and when you get a win

451
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 4: like you did against Kansas City, mentally that helps you

452
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 4: to say, Okay, we can come back, you know on

453
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,639
Speaker 4: some of the better teams. Now, Kansas City isn't showing

454
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,879
Speaker 4: they're a great team this year, but they're still the

455
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 4: Chiefs with great players on that team. And as we

456
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,919
Speaker 4: talked about earlier, that's usually an area where Jacksonville folds

457
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 4: and they didn't.

458
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Speaker 3: Mike, I have an unbelievable stat that I think you

459
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Speaker 3: could use on your show later today if you see fit.

460
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Speaker 3: And I was distracted when you mentioned Chris Jones because

461
00:21:59,280 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 3: that's how I.

462
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 2: Found the stat.

463
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:06,439
Speaker 3: But Jamar Chase has more solo tackles this season five

464
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 3: than Chris Jones does four.

465
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 2: Wowt out of the year. Wow. That that that is

466
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 2: a stat. That really is a stat. Yeah.

467
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 4: The Kansas City defense uh really has has not been

468
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 4: you know that that normal Steve Spagnolo defense.

469
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Speaker 2: I mean it really has.

470
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Speaker 4: They do have thirteen sacks on the year, or interceptions

471
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 4: they have four, but just that aggressiveness, Uh, they're they're

472
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:39,679
Speaker 4: just not getting home as much and giving up big plays.

473
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Speaker 2: Michael, the Lion's the best team in the NFL.

474
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Speaker 4: I think they are after that Week one lost to

475
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Speaker 4: Green Bay. I mean there the offense is actually performing

476
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 4: better when than when Ben Johnson was there with John

477
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,439
Speaker 4: Morton running that running that show. But but they have

478
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 4: great talent, right and they haven't really been been getting

479
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 4: hit too bad by the injury bug. Just shit, they

480
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 4: have so many weapons to go to on offense, it's ridiculous.

481
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think they're playing like the best team

482
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 4: in the game right now.

483
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Speaker 1: Yes, I find it interesting all to talk about Micah

484
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: Parsons that trade and the Cowboys sitting with the same

485
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: record as the Packers five weeks into the season.

486
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Speaker 2: Then Dallas has a really good offense, man.

487
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean listen, I called that game too, and

488
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,919
Speaker 4: it was a tie, which really was a win for

489
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Speaker 4: Dallas because thank you, green Bay had been thought of

490
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Speaker 4: as the way they came.

491
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Speaker 2: Out of the blocks.

492
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Speaker 4: While they beat the Detroit in Week one, you know,

493
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Speaker 4: they got it going on. They're going to take over

494
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 4: that division, and they they have not been as great

495
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 4: as the way they started the season. But that was

496
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Speaker 4: a wild game, that tie game. But definitely. Again, if

497
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Speaker 4: you look at moral victories, it was definitely one for

498
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Speaker 4: Jerry Jones and the Cowboys.

499
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Speaker 2: Mike, do you feel like the Hurricanes?

500
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Speaker 1: They got the big win over Florida State over the

501
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: weekend just to get to college for a second here

502
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Speaker 1: with you? Are the Hurricanes the best team in college football?

503
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Speaker 4: I mean, listen, I because they kind of you know,

504
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 4: last year the offense played great with Cam Wore, the

505
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 4: defense gave up monster plays and the offense had to

506
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 4: outscore a team thirty eight thirty five forty one thirty eight.

507
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 4: But this year their lines of scrimmages are fantastic, and

508
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 4: I think because they're playing so well as compared to

509
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 4: last year, I think people want to give them the

510
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 4: benefit of the doubt. But I would still give it

511
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Speaker 4: to Ohio State. I would until otherwise noted. I think

512
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 4: Ohio State they just have incredible talent. They have the

513
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 4: best player in all of college.

514
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Speaker 1: With that said, will you'd be surprised if Ohio State

515
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Speaker 1: loses to Illinois this weekend. That's a good game, good

516
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Speaker 1: weekend coming out, Not to Illinois.

517
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Speaker 2: Illinois.

518
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Speaker 4: Illinois, they got smoked by Indiana. I would worry more

519
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 4: about Indiana than Illinois. I don't think Ohio State's losing

520
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 4: to Illinois. I really don't. And I love Miami winning.

521
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Speaker 4: I want Miami to keep winning. In Texas, A and

522
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Speaker 4: M to keep winning because for my school, Notre Dame,

523
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 4: they don't have another ranked opponent on their schedule since US,

524
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Speaker 4: so it definitely benefits.

525
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Speaker 1: I'm starting to come around though. Notre Dame is really

526
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Speaker 1: really good, like Dame could win the national championship. Their

527
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 1: national championship good even though they haven't beaten anybody.

528
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Speaker 4: Their offense is really good and you realize they lost

529
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 4: only by three points to Miami and one point to

530
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 4: A and M, two top five teams, and the defense

531
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Speaker 4: is starting to play better. Was really playing bad early on.

532
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 4: They're starting to play better, but we are judging it

533
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 4: against lesser competition than the first couple games of the season.

534
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Speaker 4: But also your team naturally improves as the season goes on.

535
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Speaker 2: Mike.

536
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Speaker 3: Probably the biggest game this weekend Red River Rivalry Oklahoma Texas.

537
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 3: The reports are John Mattier is pushing to return this

538
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 3: week for the rivalry game. Texas is coming off a

539
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 3: bad loss against Florida. What's what's Texas's level of urgency

540
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 3: going into this game.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's big obviously. Can you imagine the preseason and again,

542
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Speaker 4: maybe we should do away with preseason polls. The preseason

543
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 4: number one and number two team Texas and Penn State

544
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 4: are both not ranked five weeks.

545
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 2: Into the season.

546
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 4: Stupid, that's that is amazing. Texas is you know, listen

547
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 4: arch Manning. How could he live up to the hype

548
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 4: right that was given him before the season.

549
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 2: But he is.

550
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 4: He is struggling. But Texas usually known for its lines

551
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 4: of scrimmages. That's that's kind of been a surprising head

552
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 4: scratching area to me. They normally dominate the lines of

553
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 4: scrimmage and they're not doing it this year. And they're

554
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 4: not getting great play out of the quarterbacks. So in

555
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 4: Oklahoma is playing some good ball.

556
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Speaker 2: Mike.

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Speaker 1: People are starting to question Sark and they, I mean,

558
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Speaker 1: that's what happens when you come in and you have

559
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 1: the Heisman favorite and his last name is Manning, and

560
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Speaker 1: you're the number one team in the country and you haven't.

561
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Speaker 2: Lived up to expectations.

562
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Speaker 1: They are now starting to question Sark and whether or

563
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Speaker 1: not he should remain as the Texas coach.

564
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Speaker 4: Listen, listen, College ball has changed with the portal. Teams

565
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 4: can can all of a sudden become very good. Teams

566
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 4: can lose players and not be as good as you think.

567
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 4: But obviously a team like Texas, you would think they

568
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 4: would have great talent every year, like Ohio State, because

569
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Speaker 4: they have the money to bring him in. But sometimes

570
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 4: if a guy's not playing, he'll go somewhere else. I

571
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Speaker 4: think it's a little early to be jumping ship on

572
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Speaker 4: sark James Franklin.

573
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Speaker 2: We could jump ship.

574
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Speaker 4: Yes, James Franklin usually wins every other game but the

575
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 4: big game, and to get beat by a winless team

576
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 4: that just fired as coaching at a first time play

577
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 4: caller is one of the biggest head scratchers I've seen

578
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 4: in a long time.

579
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Speaker 1: Yes, Texas, by the way, two and a half point

580
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: favorites according to fan duel in that game against Florida.

581
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Speaker 1: Last question, Mike Indiana at Oregon You mentioned Indiana. You

582
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Speaker 1: like Indiana. You're surprised if Indiana wins that game. That's

583
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Speaker 1: a tough place to play. It's a tough place to play.

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Speaker 4: I would feel a little better if it was in Indiana.

585
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 4: But man Signetti has got that team playing and that

586
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 4: quarterback mendoz is playing lights out.

587
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: Yes, it would.

588
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 4: Not shock me if Indiana were to win that game,

589
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 4: it would not shock me. And we keep talking about

590
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 4: Penn State and they've fallen off. But Ohio State, Oregon, Michigan, Indiana.

591
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 4: A lot of people thought it was a fluke. They

592
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 4: got into the playoffs, they go to Notre Dame and

593
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 4: they get rolled in that game. You think, okay, they

594
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 4: had their one year kind of up. But man Signetti

595
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 4: is building there for consistency and a tough, tough football

596
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 4: team and getting players that want to transfer to Indiana.

597
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 4: So while I would pick Oregon, would it shock me

598
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 4: if Monday on the show, Mike and I were talking

599
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 4: about Indiana beating Oregon.

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Speaker 2: No, it wouldn't shock me.

601
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Speaker 1: I just realized since we were talking about the Chiefs

602
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: and you have the game on Sunday night, the.

603
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 2: Chiefs don't get any breaks. They have the Lions coming up.

604
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 4: I mean, and again the side of the ball where

605
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 4: the Chiefs are struggling on defense, and this unbelievably pot

606
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Speaker 4: I can't again the amount of weapons this Allen has right,

607
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 4: two backs, tight end, three wide receivers. Is it is amazing? Yes,

608
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 4: it is really, really amazing. So a lot of stress

609
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 4: is going to be on Steve Spagnola in that defense.

610
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you because you know Spags and

611
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: Spags is a friend of mine, Okay, and so like

612
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: he's having sleepless nights right now?

613
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 2: Is that fair? Oh?

614
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 4: I think without a doubt, trying to figure out what

615
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 4: weapon do you try and stop? Jared Goff is quietly

616
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 4: in the MVP conversation crazy he is quietly, and I

617
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 4: don't know if I don't even know if it's quietly

618
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 4: he should be. Now, he's like eighth in passing yards,

619
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 4: but right up there in rating, I think he's second.

620
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 4: I think he's first in completion percentage or right right there.

621
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Speaker 4: I mean he's got again a lot of weapons to

622
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 4: throw to and the team is leading the league in

623
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 4: point score by the way, the Colts are second. So yeah,

624
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 4: I mean, Kansas City has got their work cut off

625
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 4: for him this week in practice.

626
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Speaker 1: You know what, I'm glad that Giant fans have to

627
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: sit through this and endure this Daniel Jones having success elsewhere,

628
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: because you know what I've been going through my entire

629
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Speaker 1: fucking life, Mike.

630
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 4: It's to see you give up on a quarterback and

631
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 4: that quarterback thrive somewhere else is either like your team

632
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 4: is cursed or you give a side eye to the coach.

633
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: Right, why couldn't you get now again?

634
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 4: Barkley leaves the Giants and all of a sudden rushes

635
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 4: for two thousand yards. Well, there's a difference in offensive lines,

636
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 4: right and now again, Daniel Jones, There's a difference in

637
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 4: offensive lines. That Colt offensive line is excellent. They have

638
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 4: a great running back as well, so that comes into

639
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 4: the equation as well.

640
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: Do you have any thoughts on a well dressed, drunk

641
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez, the greatest jet quarterback of all time, picking

642
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: the wrong sixty nine.

643
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 2: Year old to trifle with. I did, listen.

644
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 4: I hope I hope that the drive the driver is

645
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 4: he looked like he was messed up. I hope he

646
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 4: is is gonna be okay health wise. Listen, this is

647
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 4: gonna come out in the court of law. Dude is

648
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 4: Sue and everybody, the truck driver, Sue and everybody.

649
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: And he should from the reading about what happened.

650
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 4: If in fact those are the facts of the alleged facts,

651
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 4: I wouldn't die. I wouldn't blame him for doing that

652
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 4: and and listen, I I I don't know what to

653
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 4: say about Mark. I don't know Mark personally about going

654
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 4: out on the weekends on a on a work weekend,

655
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 4: that's obviously a decision he makes. And uh and he's

656
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 4: gonna have to Uh, he's gonna have to face some

657
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 4: consequences for that.

658
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Speaker 1: You would agree this is the second most embarrassing thing

659
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Speaker 1: on his resume.

660
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Speaker 4: Ha, No, I think this is the most embarrassing. I

661
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 4: think I let me put it this way, this will

662
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 4: be the most costly on his on his resume.

663
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: My brother was saying they should sentence him to five

664
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: years of the Jets quarterback.

665
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'll take it.

666
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 4: I saw that sentenced him to five more years with

667
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 4: the Jets. That people have their jokes about it, but

668
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 4: there were there were people hurt, so obviously that's number one.

669
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 4: Again that that driver looked like he was in rough shape.

670
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 4: So hopefully he is okay. But uh yeah, I mean

671
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 4: you you you as they say, play silly games, you

672
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 4: win silly prizes, and uh, this is uh he is, uh,

673
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 4: he is he is going to have to face the

674
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 4: consequences here.

675
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: There's no way he approached that guy thinking he has

676
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: pepper spray and a knife. They're just there's no how

677
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: could you, I mean, and I want to laugh at it.

678
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: And Golick does it because people are hurting. He's right,

679
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: we should be thoughtful of it.

680
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 4: And and again, I think we know what kind of

681
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 4: condition Mark was in, but we don't know fully what

682
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 4: kind of condition he was in when that started. So

683
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 4: and I'm sure we'll find out everything.

684
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Speaker 1: Yes, Uh, Golick and Golic every afternoon on the FanDuel

685
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: Sports Network, Mike, we appreciate the time as always. I

686
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: can't believe I said Notre Dame is chippy and Chip good,

687
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: but they are.

688
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 4: They are. They absolutely are. And I'm glad you've come

689
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 4: into my side. You don't have the Jets roof for anymore,

690
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 4: So come on.

691
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: To the Notre d inside. I will never come to

692
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 2: that side as.

693
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 3: A Carolina fan, Mike. If the bandwagon's open for me,

694
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 3: I'm willing to come on to that day.

695
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 2: All right. Yeah, he's jumping on Belichick already. I mean,

696
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: this is seven to nothing.

697
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: He was texting me the winning a national championship, and

698
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: now he thinks Belichick is embarrassing in the entire school.

699
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 4: How about at that first drive. Yes, Belichick's career goes

700
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 4: down for a touchdown. Michael Jordan's there, Lawrence Taylor's there,

701
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 4: Julius Peppers is.

702
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, and now there. They won't go to

703
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: another game.

704
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 3: They can never take that first drive away from us.

705
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: No, no, you have that to hold on to for

706
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: as long as you can remember. It was the greatest

707
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: moment in North Carolina football history. Yeah.

708
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: By the way, the Carolina Panthers better record than the

709
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: Ravens NFL always wins.

710
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: Wow, incredible, isn't that amazing? Thank you, my God, blessed football.

711
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: All right, God, blessed football.

712
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: It is rare when the day is over that Taylor

713
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: will call me. I'll, you know, send him a text

714
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: and we'll come back because we feel the need, because

715
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: the story is so seismic, so big, we feel the

716
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: need to come back and record some more. Well, we

717
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: have not one, but two of those stories. The first

718
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: one involves Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco is headed to the

719
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals. Now, luckily we didn't ask Mike Golik about

720
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: the Bengals. What a dumpster fire that team is without

721
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: the MVP Joe Burrow. So Luckily we didn't ask him

722
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 1: about it, but we do have some breaking news. According

723
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: to sources, Joe Flacco is going to Cincinnati to try

724
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: to bridge the gap until Joe Burrow hopefully gets healthy again. Taylor,

725
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco another shot at a starting quarterback job.

726
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, just for transparency purposes here, we're preparing.

727
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 2: To do this.

728
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 3: We're coming back. The Flaco news breaks. Ian Rappaport breaks it. Yeah,

729
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 3: And the first thing Steve says is, Man, I wonder

730
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 3: how bad the Lamar Jackson injury is. And I'm thinking

731
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 3: in my head like maybe the Bengals are looking at

732
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 3: it from the perspective of if Lamar is like, is

733
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 3: this the angles chance?

734
00:34:59,480 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 5: Right?

735
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Bengals are seeing the Ravens Lamar Jackson's hurt,

736
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 3: so that's why they're going out and getting them.

737
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, no, no, no, no.

738
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 3: Stegots thought Joe Flacco had gotten traded to the Ravens.

739
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: Yes, and I was very excited to come back and

740
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: record just so I could say Joe Baco.

741
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 3: He's technically coming back, So Joe Baco kind of does work.

742
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 3: He's just not going back to the Ravens.

743
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 2: He's just going He's not going back. I thought he

744
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: was going back to the Ravens.

745
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: I misread the report, okay, out of Tom Pellisario or

746
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: something like that.

747
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 2: I read the report, and I rushed back from whatever

748
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 2: it is I was doing.

749
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: I was fifteen minutes away from my house, and I

750
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: just wanted to say Joe Baco.

751
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 2: But I guess I can. You're right because he.

752
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: Is back at a starting position, and Joe Flacco.

753
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: Could win another super Bowl with this team.

754
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: And you realize why it is Taylor that you have

755
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 1: to say Bacco and you can't say Blacko.

756
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 5: Right, yes, okay, yeah, but but if you're if you're

757
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 5: Joe Flacco, yeah, I know you have the flashy toys

758
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 5: in t Higgins and Jamar Chase.

759
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 3: You're going from one bad offensive line to another bad

760
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 3: offensive line, and you gotta wonder how much does Flacco

761
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 3: have left in the tank in front of some some

762
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 3: putrid offensive lines.

763
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: We agree that if he can't get it done with

764
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: these two wide receivers, he's done, right, Like, we get

765
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: this is almost like pulling Philip Rivers out of retirement

766
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: to see if he has one last season in them. Like,

767
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: if he can't, I don't care how bad the offensive

768
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 1: line is if he can't get it done with Jamar

769
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: Chase and t Higgins, Joe Flacco needs to hang him up, right,

770
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 1: That is that?

771
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 2: I mean he probably plans out that anyway, right.

772
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 3: And all the talk in the preseason was about how

773
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 3: crowded that that Browns quarterback room is. You're looking at

774
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 3: it now, it's just Dylan Gabriel and it's just Sanders.

775
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 3: And if I'm the Bengals, I think the the idea

776
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 3: of Sanders would excite me more than the idea of

777
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 3: Joe Flacco. So I think if you're the Bengals, there's

778
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 3: a case to be made that they traded for the

779
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 3: wrong brown quarterback.

780
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: Put it on the pole, the Bengals trade for the

781
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: wrong Browns quarterback. They're not getting Dylan Gabriel, No one's

782
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: touching him. You're saying, the upside of Shador Sanders is

783
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: what they should have traded for. And my guess is

784
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: the Browns aren't ready to part with whatever the upside might.

785
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 2: Be up Jador Sanders because they haven't tested him out yet. Like,

786
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: is that fair? Yeah?

787
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: But you gotta think what the but Taylor, imagine, if

788
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: you're a Browns fan, you trade away Shador Sanders and

789
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: he hooks up with those two wide receivers. The blowback

790
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: that the Browns would They're not getting enough for Baker Mayfield,

791
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: They're not getting enough for Deshaan Watson. Can you imagine

792
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: the blowback if Shador Sanders becomes the quarterback that melt

793
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: kiper Junior thought he would become.

794
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 2: If he hooks up with Jamar Chase at T Higgins,

795
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: you might go to the Hall of Fame. Yeah, it would.

796
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 3: It would be a disaster. But they they use like

797
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 3: a fifth round pick on him. So like if the

798
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 3: Bengals give like a third or fourth round pick back

799
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 3: and you're you're upgrading your value. I do think you

800
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 3: are right that the unknown of Shador Sander if you're

801
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 3: if you're the the Browns, you want to hold on

802
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 3: to him for a bit longer, you.

803
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 2: Do, right, You want to see uh. You want to

804
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: see uh. You want to give him an.

805
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: Opportunity to see if he's going to be a good

806
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: quarterback of the event that Dylan Gabriel is.

807
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 2: It's right.

808
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 3: And the way that the Browns are rotating through quarterbacks

809
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 3: right now, you got to think Shdor Sanders chance is

810
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 3: coming within Like the next month, the next month at

811
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 3: the current rate that they're going at.

812
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 2: Uh yeah.

813
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 1: Also when you look at the move is interesting from

814
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: this standpoint. And there is a second bit of breaking

815
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: news that we'll get to in a second. The AFC North. Okay,

816
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: you do have the Ravens who just look dreadful. Okay,

817
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 1: they're one and four. Lamar is hurt.

818
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 2: That defense isn't good when he's healthy.

819
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 1: And then you have the Steelers at three and one,

820
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: and if you're the Bengals, you're sitting there are two

821
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: and three.

822
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: It's like what we were discussing with Golick earlier.

823
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: The NFL always wins because the Bengals still think they

824
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: have a chance to make it somewhere, and now they do.

825
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: I mean they have Flacco. I mean that's listen. It's

826
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: better than what they had because what they had was

827
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: absolutely dreadful and Jake Browning.

828
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 3: Yep, the b and Bengals stands for bridge. They just

829
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 3: need the bridge from Flacco to Burrow. You, yes, whenever

830
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 3: Burrow's coming back.

831
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 2: By Borrow Bridge, haven't.

832
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 3: Whenever Joe Burrow's coming back, whatever the expected date that

833
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 3: he comes back. The only thing you're hoping for as

834
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 3: a Bengals fan is when they put up that in

835
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 3: the mix in the hunt graphic. Yes, you're somewhere in

836
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 3: the picture, right, Because if you're somewhere in that picture,

837
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,399
Speaker 3: say Burrow comes back week fourteen, Week fifteen, if you're

838
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 3: in the in the hunt graphic, that means Joe Flacco

839
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 3: did his job exactly right.

840
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 2: Yes, right, he kept you in the graphic.

841
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: That's that's all you're asking from Joe Flacco.

842
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: Keep us in the hot graphic, keep us right there.

843
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 2: He will. I think he will, do you. I think?

844
00:39:59,760 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 3: So?

845
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: Okay, who to Cincinnati player this week? This is gonna

846
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: be so great. Joe Flacco starting for the Bengals. This

847
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: is really it's amazing.

848
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: I'm Packers. Oh that's a loss.

849
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 3: At green Bay, at green Bay and then home, then home.

850
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 3: Next next it's the Thursday night game Steelers Bengals, a

851
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 3: little divisional matchup, and then the following week it's Jets

852
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 3: at Bengals.

853
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: Okay, so two of the three are very winnable games,

854
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: one of them very important, that Thursday night game.

855
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: So man, it would have been better if he went

856
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 2: back to the Ravens.

857
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 3: The biggest shame in all of this is that you're

858
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 3: looking at the Browns and the Bengals schedule that they

859
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 3: don't They played Week one and they play Week seventeen.

860
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 3: So you're not going to get the potential Joe Flacco

861
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 3: revenge game because by that point you would assume Burrow

862
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 3: would be back.

863
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 2: You would assume. But well, here's what I would do

864
00:40:58,800 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 2: with Flaco.

865
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Speaker 1: By the way, I would not play him this week

866
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: because that's not a winnable game. I would save them

867
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: for that big Thursday, big Thursday night game.

868
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 2: Right, Who is that Thursday night game against Steelers. That's

869
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 2: a big one at home too, That's a big one. Yeah,

870
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: you could win that game at home with Joe Flacco. Yeah. Wow,

871
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 2: this is so exciting the NFL see Joe Flacco.

872
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: Bacco, he is back, he is He's back as a

873
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: starting quarterback. I would like to see Joe Flacco get

874
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: the rare in season revenge game against.

875
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 2: The Cleveland Browns. I would, you know, be fun to see.

876
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 3: So the second piece of breaking news that we have.

877
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: All right, so you have a second piece of breaking

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Speaker 1: news that I am not aware of.

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Speaker 2: I rush back.

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Speaker 1: I was fifteen minutes away from my house just to

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Speaker 1: say Joe Baco once I got here, Taylor told me

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Speaker 1: some other news broke. So you have a second piece

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Speaker 1: of breaking news. You were getting my live reaction to

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Speaker 1: this piece of breaking news.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Is there anything I could tell you about the Bill

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Speaker 3: Belichick North Carolina saga that would make make it on

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Speaker 3: your radar in terms of breaking news besides them firing.

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Speaker 1: Him or him walking away. Correct, Okay, them assigning him

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Speaker 1: to a ten year extension.

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Speaker 3: So they didn't do that. But this report comes from

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Speaker 3: Inside Carolina. Bill Belichick and North Carolina season long documentary

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Speaker 3: with Hulu is no longer happening canceled. That's a shame.

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Speaker 3: You can't cancel the show just because your team is bad.

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Speaker 2: Well, who's gonna watch it?

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Speaker 3: I think you can make the argument more people. It's like,

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Speaker 3: do you want to watch a team that goes six

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Speaker 3: and six and goes to like the quick Ling Bowl

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Speaker 3: in Detroit? Or do you want to watch Bill Belichick

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Speaker 3: who just finished the season two and ten, three and

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Speaker 3: nine and see truly how bad things got?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but Belichick doesn't want you to see it. And

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Speaker 1: if he doesn't want anyone to see it, then we're

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Speaker 1: not seeing it. That's the problem. Like, yes, I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: I would love to see Pola Jack in his demise.

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Speaker 2: Coaching himself out of the Hall of.

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Speaker 1: Fame and how much it's destroyed him and his confidence.

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Speaker 1: But he doesn't want you to see it. He's not

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Speaker 1: going to allow you to see it. So he bailed

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Speaker 1: on it. He thought this was going to go a

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Speaker 1: lot better. Yeah, he really did.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 3: The one comparison for this Hulu for this Hulu docu

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Speaker 3: series that I had, was a documentary called Sunderland Until

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Speaker 3: I Die. I was going to ask have you watched it?

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Speaker 3: But it's a soccer documentary. I'm just going to assume

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Speaker 3: you have not.

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Speaker 2: Well, I've never even heard of it.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what you're talking about, and then

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Speaker 1: come back here to talk soccer.

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Speaker 3: So Sunderland Till I Die was a Netflix series where

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Speaker 3: Sunderland's a Premier League team, a story Premier League team,

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Speaker 3: they get relegated to the Championship. So Netflix goes to Sunderland.

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Speaker 3: It's like, hey, we want to do a documentary about

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Speaker 3: your season in the Championship, hopefully ending with you back

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Speaker 3: in the Premier League. Sunderland's like, you know what, we've lost,

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Speaker 3: revenue going down to the championship. We'll take it. Netflix

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Speaker 3: follows them around for the season, and not only do

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Speaker 3: they not get promoted to the back to the Premier League,

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Speaker 3: Thunderland is so bad they get sent down to the

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Speaker 3: third league, League One, and the whole documentary you know

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Speaker 3: what's gonna happen because obviously sports are live, and then

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Speaker 3: it's a recap of their season. It was like a

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Speaker 3: train wreck that you could not want, you could not

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Speaker 3: look away from. The fans are like having emotional breakdowns

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Speaker 3: every week, like the players, the managers, they could leave

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Speaker 3: whenever we're stuck with this crap. You see the you

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Speaker 3: see the people on the team like packing their bags like, hey,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna go back to the Premier League, Like good

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Speaker 3: luck everybody here. But that's the same vibe that this

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Speaker 3: North Carolina documentary had, where it's like, we know coaches

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Speaker 3: are gonna get fired, we know players are gonna leave.

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Speaker 3: We want to see the inner workings of how bad

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Speaker 3: things actually are in Chapel Hill, and and now we're

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Speaker 3: robbed from it right.

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Speaker 1: Well again, the big problem is Belichick doesn't want you

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Speaker 1: to see it. We're all dying I pay for but

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Speaker 1: he doesn't want you to see it. I have no

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Speaker 1: doubt that it would get high ratings. I have no

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Speaker 1: doubt that it would be very popular. But again, Belichick

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Speaker 1: and Lombardi they don't want you seeing it. They don't

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Speaker 1: They don't want you to see their pain.

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Speaker 2: And why would they Why would they.

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Speaker 1: Allow you to see the worst year of Bill Belichick's life?

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Speaker 1: Why would he agree to Well, he agreed to it

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Speaker 1: on the front end. You're saying he should honor his commitments.

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Speaker 2: Then, yes, this is not.

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Speaker 3: Like you can't be a front runner, like, hey, we're

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Speaker 3: not going to the playoffs this year, so none of

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Speaker 3: this footage gets out. If I have to sit in

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Speaker 3: Keenan Stadium and watch Manny Diaz and Duke drag Us, yes,

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Speaker 3: let me watch the documentary.

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Speaker 1: Watch the doc Yes, I think it's fair. Belichick has

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Speaker 1: really had a rough five years. Yeah, but by the way,

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Speaker 1: what you just said is totally accurate, and you're right, like,

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Speaker 1: if you have to sit and watch Duke Dragon North Carolina,

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Speaker 1: you should be entitled to your documentary.

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Speaker 2: But Belichick doesn't want you to see it.

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Speaker 1: It's been a rough five years for Belichick, yes, seven whatever.

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Speaker 1: The second Brady left him, things went downhill.

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Speaker 2: Right, you have Brady going.

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Speaker 1: To the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and in his first year

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Speaker 1: without Belichick, he wins a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: His first year without Belichick, he wins a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Belichick doesn't make the playoffs, and then Bill gets let

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Speaker 1: go from the New England Patriots. And then there were

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Speaker 1: reports that no one in the NFL wants to hire

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Speaker 1: the all time winning his coach in the history of

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Speaker 1: their sport, and he's essentially been banned from the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Teams don't want him to be their head coach. And

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Speaker 1: now is Hulu documentary was canceled.

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Speaker 3: So if you're a sports fan who was in like

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Speaker 3: a coma for ten years, yes, and you wake up

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Speaker 3: in the hospital and immediately it would be a weird

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Speaker 3: first question to ask, how's Bill Belichick doing?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: Imagine telling somebody ten years ago Bill Belichick's no longer

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Speaker 3: in the NFL. He's in college and it's like, oh wow,

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Speaker 3: like that college team must be great. Not only are

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Speaker 3: they not great, they are the worst team in college

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Speaker 3: football right now.

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Speaker 1: Right, So you went to the coma and Belichick's the

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Speaker 1: greatest coach in the history of sports. And you come

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Speaker 1: out of the coma and he has coached himself out

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Speaker 1: of the Hall of Fame. His Hulu documentary is canceled

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Speaker 1: because he wanted to cancel because he's such an embarrassment

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Speaker 1: that would be jarring, such an odd first question, who

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Speaker 1: do you have in a coma?

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Speaker 2: Simmons?

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Speaker 3: Wait until he finds out about Nick Saban retire?

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Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, is it Dan shown? Is he in

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Speaker 2: a coma? Brozillo?

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Speaker 3: So Saban's gonna replace Lee Corso. And remember that punter

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Speaker 3: from the Colts. He's also on the show

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Speaker 1: Now that Joe Flacco is still playing, and he's Bacco