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Speaker 1: in to our Monday morning podcast. The great Marcus Thompson

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Speaker 1: for the Athletic covers the Warriors in the NBA is

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Speaker 1: going to be joining us. He wrote the KD Book

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Speaker 1: and the Steph Curry Book. My takeaway in the most

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Speaker 1: interesting game of the weekend is the Celtics and Brooklyn.

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Speaker 1: I think if you're Brooklyn you have to feel great.

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Speaker 1: Ka D was awful in the first half, did not

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Speaker 1: and In the end, Boston's a better defensive team with

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Speaker 1: significantly better ball movement. The Nets have Kyrie and Kevin Durant,

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Speaker 1: But I still think you have to feel great if

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Speaker 1: Durant had a bad game. They had a ton of

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Speaker 1: to me is the series. Jayson Tatum played great, Jalen

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Speaker 1: know I've said this about Philadelphia. I picked Philadelphia over

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Speaker 1: So Embiid had nineteen, Harden only had twenty two and

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Speaker 1: the six are still won by twenty. Is that what

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Speaker 1: Hardened Embiid are not perfect. Between Maxie Hardened Tobias Harris Mbid.

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Speaker 1: The chemistry is not as good as a Boston, It's

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Speaker 1: If you'll look at some of the analytics, Memphis is

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Speaker 1: They found themselves in a hole. Anthony Edwards, I was

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Speaker 1: You tell me, if you Yokis look gassed, I find

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think they're scared of Phoenix

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Speaker 1: at all. What do you make of the Lakers mess

422
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 1: down here? Westbrook can't play off the ball, which we

423
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: all knew, so we knew that was going to be

424
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: not an ideal fit. What do as you look at

425
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: the Lakers and you hear whispers around the league? I

426
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: keep telling people in Los Angeles on my show, folks,

427
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: the last ten years, they've been bad for eight of

428
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: the years. Ownership, front office monster, Like they're they're the

429
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. I think we're on our fifth coach in

430
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: twelve years. Like it's Mayhem. But the brand, it's like

431
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: the Yankees in the eighties. The brand's huge cowboys right right.

432
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,719
Speaker 1: But it's like, if you look at the Lakers over

433
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: the last ten years outside of the bubble year, Marcus,

434
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: it's not a very good franchise. Yeah, that that pressure,

435
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 1: you know what these guys felt it. They felt it

436
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: on the play in college, not in the West Finals.

437
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: They felt it trying to get past San Antonio in

438
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 1: New Orleans for the last spot, Like that's that's the

439
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: Lakers were stique. I think they're in trouble. I really

440
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: don't know. I think they're I don't know. They don't

441
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 1: have picks. They've got to dangle Anthony Davis, right, that's

442
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 1: what they gotta They gotta dangle Lebron in order to

443
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: get anything, or they have to figure out a life

444
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 1: with Russs. And you hear Russ afterwards, like, hey, they

445
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: said it was gonna let me let russby Russ, but

446
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: that was a lie that didn't have right. So in

447
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 1: Russ's mind he said there thinking after this season, like, man,

448
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: that's because John let me do me right. So it

449
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: doesn't even sound harmonious, right, it doesn't sound reconcilable. No

450
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: where are they gonna go get John Wall? This is

451
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: how bad it is. The answer is to go get

452
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: John Wall, who ain't played since you in two years.

453
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: That's the answer that that's the best shot, is go

454
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: get John Wall. Like they're they're the tough one who's

455
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: running it, Who's who's calling a shot, who's making it.

456
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: That's another big thing. People underestimate that it's really important

457
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 1: to have a singular, dominant voice, even if it's like

458
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: a player, even if it's like Lebron. So now you

459
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: know where accountability goes. When people mess up. You know

460
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: where to go. Man, they've got it's a lot of

461
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: cooks in that kitchen. Man, nobody's calling it. So nobody's saying, oh,

462
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: that was my fault. I blew it. Let's just fire

463
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 1: Frank Bobil like that was the answer. Yeah. And if

464
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: you look at Lebron, he won't acknowledge the Westbrook choice. Um.

465
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: He said about a week ago. Hey, like, I'm not

466
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: a front office guy. I let the guys do what

467
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: they want. So he's distancing himself. He's like, I'm done

468
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: with this, all right? He is. I mean, he's it.

469
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: You know, you get to this point. It's like when

470
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 1: Brady pushed Bruce Arians upstairs for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

471
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: He goes to Instagram, I love my coach. What's happening Marcus?

472
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: When these guys are worth eight hundred million dollars? It's

473
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: brand protection. Brady's protecting his brand. He doesn't want to

474
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 1: come off as harsh. Lebron doesn't want to come off

475
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: as meddling. But in the end, I don't think there's

476
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: any answers. I think we look at the Lakers because

477
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: of their name, and we think they're competent. The Dallas

478
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: Cowboys do this. They have very few outside voices. It's

479
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, it's Steven Jones, It's Charlotte Jones. The Lakers.

480
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: It's Rambus husband and wife. It's Kobe's agent. You know,

481
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 1: it's Jeanie Buss. She takes calls daily from Phil Jackson.

482
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: It's very insular Magic Johnson like. So to me, it's

483
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: like like Warriors, Bob Myers ultimately makes the final calls, right, well,

484
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 1: Joe Lacob, Yeah, it's when he wants to step in,

485
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: he'll step in. But yeah, it's it's Bob Myers. But

486
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: that's part of the Warriors vacuum too, Like they've got

487
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: they're getting a little bit of many voices, but everybody

488
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: knows the buck stop with Joe Lacob, and that's very

489
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: clear to everybody, even down to whether or not they

490
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: spend money on the fifteenth Rosser spot, right, Like that

491
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: was a that's a Joe Lacob call. So for better

492
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: or worse, it's good to have that though, Right, that's

493
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: it's good to have somebody who's making a call. I

494
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: think that's what the first off. They need a philosophy, right,

495
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 1: they need something to decide to say, listen, here's how

496
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: we're going to play. And if you do that, now

497
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: you can at least pick roster spots. Because remember they

498
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: added a lot of players. They let something go right,

499
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: They let Caruso go right, that KCP and you know

500
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna get the leak month they're like signing Stanley

501
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: Johnson or like day contract. Like, they don't have a philosophy.

502
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: They're just kind of like, yo, who's out there, who's available.

503
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,479
Speaker 1: They need a coach who can bring a philosophy and

504
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: realize this is not gonna happen in one year. But

505
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: there's I don't care what the problem is. You shouldn't

506
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: be number eleven in the West, it's fifteen teams in

507
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: the West. You got Lebron, you gotta Anthony Davis. That

508
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: should get you into play in like minimum and start

509
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: building something. Lebron ain't going anywhere, He's staying in Hollywood,

510
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: so just start building something. That's what they need to do.

511
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: But they got to find the right coach who can

512
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: do that. So when when you um, is there anything

513
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: in the playoffs? I kind of suspect um. You know,

514
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: I like Phoenix to win it. Good defensive team, good leadership,

515
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: good coach. I also think Um more dependable physically. I

516
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: worry about I always worry about Steph. I worry about

517
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: Clay Draymond. These guys are there's a lot a lot

518
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: of miles, maybe a lot of miles. I do like

519
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: Milwaukee in the East, even though I don't think they're

520
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: gifted offensively. I think they have Jannis and you kind

521
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: of cross your fingers on Chris Middleton. Do you do

522
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: you I can't figure out the Miami heat. I don't

523
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: I don't get them. Somebody can describe it. That's the team.

524
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: That's the team. I don't get. Um. Maybe for you

525
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: it's Denver. I don't get Miami. They don't have a closure,

526
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: they have a great bench. Bench is shrink in the playoffs?

527
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: Do you do you suspect we'll have a surprise of

528
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: any note, a noteworthy surprise. I don't think so. I

529
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: really don't think. Then you know what the surprise would

530
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: be like if the Warriors be Phoenix. But how surprising

531
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: is that really? Right? Like, you know, I think I

532
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: think Minnesota will be a surprise. I think they got

533
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: a series in them. I think I think they're gonna

534
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: scare the hell out of Memphis. To be honest with you,

535
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: Memphis by survived, but Minnesota is gonna be terrifying. But

536
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: I do think in the end, we're talking Milwaukee, We're

537
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: talking Phoenix, We're talking uh, you know, somehow the met

538
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: survive and get everything together. Like we there's really three

539
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: teams who really think will go all the way. I

540
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: really think it will be a surprise, And if the

541
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: Warriors do it, it it won't be a surprise. It's just

542
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: we haven't seen it in three years, right, So it's like, dude,

543
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,959
Speaker 1: they still have it. Can they survive? But as far

544
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: as can win a title, Chicago can't win a title

545
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: right now, I don't. I mean, that's and the Celtics

546
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,959
Speaker 1: are two and three. You know, I don't you think

547
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: either one of them they're about to kill each other

548
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: for a series and then lose to Milwaukee, Right, That's

549
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: how it's gonna work. So I don't I don't think

550
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna get a surprise from the sense that the

551
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: teams who we think can win the title will be

552
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: one of the ones who win a title. I don't

553
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: think we're gonna get a dark horse. It's just too

554
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: hard Man and the blue Bloods. They're all really good, right,

555
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: It's not like it's not the power vacuum. Milwaukee's gonna

556
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: be tough to beat. They're not beat Milwaukee. They work

557
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: number one and they win sixty five games, but that's

558
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: still a championship team. You gotta beat them, and then

559
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: you gotta beat Boston, right, and you know, Philly might

560
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: be the easiest of them all to get through. So

561
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: in the end, it will be the ones who who

562
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: are they are who we thought they were in the

563
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: words of the Degree. Yeah, so circle back to the Warriors.

564
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: So they'll move Wiggins in your opinion for size, that's

565
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: your prediction. I just feel like they'll move Wiggins for

566
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,239
Speaker 1: George Poole. Pool's got a lot of money. They might

567
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: not have to move them because whatever Pool signs it

568
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: will kick in after Wiggins deal is up, so they

569
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: won't be paying the same Tikic Currently. The big issue

570
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: is they just can't they already got how many maxis

571
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: do they have? They got four max contracts right right?

572
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: Like you can't. You can't add a fifth one and

573
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: George Blue's gonna get pretty close if not max, but

574
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: they gotta move a max if they want to add one.

575
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: I do think they're still on the Wiseman trains. I

576
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: do think they're still like we believe in them, it's

577
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: gonna happen. But I also think Jonathan Comiga makes them

578
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: yet a little bit more patient, right, a little bit

579
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: more patient. So the real question is can they sign

580
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: George Pool? But we're gonna see in these playoffs Pool

581
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: Curry play Thompson etched him in the lineup with Blood

582
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: Draymond another one. Can they win with Wiggins as the

583
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: fifth start like that? That's gonna be the question. How

584
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: far can they get? We're riding those five? Can Wiggins?

585
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: Can Wiggins be the difference maker? And if not, then

586
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: you kind of got to decide to make a move.

587
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: But man, if they make a run with that five,

588
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: I think they running back because they haven't even played

589
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: the game. One was the first time they played together. Yeah,

590
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: that's wild, right, So if they make a run, I

591
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: think it will. It will be the emphasis for them

592
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: to say running back with the pay Jordan Pool and

593
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: then if you know, let's see what we get with

594
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: Wiggins after his contract expire. Marcus Thompson perfect, great seeing

595
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: your buddy. I love your setup. Is this your house? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

596
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: I got my art. Now I didn't. I didn't. It's

597
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: not me. I don't have that much taste. That's too classic.

598
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: It would have been like two pockets something the five shows.

599
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: But I will remember you were on commita earlier. Oh,

600
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: I think he's There are just athletes that are so twitchy.

601
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like I felt in the playoffs.

602
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I give him eighteen minutes and let

603
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: him defend. But the problem is Draymond is so valuable

604
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: on the floor. I mean the other ninety had what

605
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: ten and you're like, he felt so substantial and he's

606
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: just wi while Yokis will sucking win. Draymond is like

607
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: yelling at foaming at the mouth right like it's it's crazy.

608
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: Where does he get the energy from? The dude is

609
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: like thirty two years old, he's got the gray beard,

610
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: he's coming off injury and he was lit and yokids

611
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: is out there sucking win. Like it's like, how is this?

612
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: What are these dudes? Has been the five finals and

613
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: the other one is like new entering his pride. But

614
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: you couldn't tell because Draymond was so on too, and

615
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: I was like, how do you do this every time?

616
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: It's crazy? Yeah, Draymond's the last player in the league

617
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: that you can get ten points from and he feels significant. Yeah,

618
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: there's not dude, there's not many of those guys now

619
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: in the seventies and eighties because of the rules you

620
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: had guys is like that, Charles Oakley, Ben Wallace guy. Yeah, Like,

621
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: Draymond's the last you're literally feel he is changing momentum

622
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: and not scoring. It's impressive. It's it's very old school, right,

623
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 1: and in this age of pace and space and chucking threes.

624
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: I do think it is a dying breed. You gotta

625
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: be able to get it done. Now, Kyle, you don't

626
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 1: get what you're doing, especially because you go, what forty

627
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: million can't get forty million dollars on ten points? But

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Speaker 1: I will say with Draymond, he's so there's such an

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Speaker 1: this about one of the things I like about the

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Speaker 1: Warriors is they got most of their players um later

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Speaker 1: in the draft. There's a grinder's mentality to it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: one guy goes to Davidson. Even Jordan Poole, M yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean the bottom line is it's very hard to

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Speaker 1: get two things simultaneous. Great players all have a chip

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Speaker 1: on their shoulder like they were overlooked. It's a rare

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Speaker 1: culture in the NBA. I can't think of anybody off

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Speaker 1: the top of my head that had it. Seriously, that's

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Speaker 1: a tough call. Yeah, how do you the question? And

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Speaker 1: then how you got to spot it right? You got

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Speaker 1: to spot the chip in advance because sometimes you don't

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Speaker 1: spot its spotted in Tom Brady, that dude w six

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Speaker 1: around right. Like you can tell Draymond even in his

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Speaker 1: podcast at the volume. He is a totally coachable like

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Speaker 1: how do I get better? It's really when he is

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Speaker 1: the easiest athlete I've ever worked with. I just texted

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Speaker 1: him the other day. You should have heard him today.

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Speaker 1: I mean he went on a whole rent about how

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Speaker 1: much respect he has for what we do now, how

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Speaker 1: he's learning Draymond's doing research. He's like, he's like, if

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Speaker 1: my pod started is on Monday, I'm doing research on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: the wednesday before like going over questions at all that.

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Speaker 1: I was like, what in the world has happened at

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Speaker 1: the No, he's great, he really believable. You gotta break

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Speaker 1: it down film he is. He is one of one.

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Speaker 1: I mean if he if he I would sign him

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Speaker 1: to a ten year contract today. He is one of one.

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Speaker 1: In my there's just he. I'm trying to think of

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Speaker 1: anybody that comes to mind that is a star, is

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Speaker 1: going to be a Hall of Famer. And then in

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Speaker 1: his podcast his third or fourth income totally grinds hard.

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Speaker 1: It's like, dude, you know that, that's not the way

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Speaker 1: it works. Hey, I did a podcast with him back

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Speaker 1: in the day. That's not how he was. That's not

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Speaker 1: how he was. But yeah, he's into. He was telling

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Speaker 1: us today how into it he is. He's like, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm out here. I'll put as much work into this

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Speaker 1: as I do basketball. He was like, he's on it,

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Speaker 1: listening to the producer, what have you done to He'll

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Speaker 1: listen to Steve Kerrs, but listen to the producer of

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Speaker 1: pode it's great seeing him a man. All Right, I'll

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Speaker 1: go all right, Marcus, thanks man. That's great the volume.

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Speaker 1: Make sure to check out The Draymond Green Show. I

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Speaker 1: brought Draymond Green into the volume because one of the

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Speaker 1: more entertaining voices in sports, unique perspective understands behind the rope.

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