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Speaker 1: As we are one week away from the the almost
Speaker 1: said Saint Louis Rams, the Los Angeles Rams come into town,
Speaker 1: and we are less than a week away now from
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game. Because we have got football
Speaker 1: on the horizon and a busy week ahead here for
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. As of course, I'm always joined by
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, Mickey's Bag Nola, I'm Kyle Yeoman's and busy
Speaker 1: weekend to head for the Cowboys. No such thing as
Speaker 1: a true off day until Monday. We had a regeneration
Speaker 1: day yesterday, at least the players did. Still got to
Speaker 1: hear from a couple of coordinators in some of the
Speaker 1: front office as well throughout the latter part of this
Speaker 1: past week. But hey, it's starting to get ato exciting times,
Speaker 1: Rob about this Dallas Cowboys team and finally getting back
Speaker 1: into action. How many practice. We got until the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame game three, three and a day off in between,
Speaker 1: so you know, it's it's the last little hurdle for
Speaker 1: the offense and defense to get their installs in before
Speaker 1: that game. And you know, the last chance for not
Speaker 1: the last chance in camp, but the last chance for
Speaker 1: guys to kind of show out. And as dan Quinn said,
Speaker 1: see what guys can do, See what guys have earned
Speaker 1: in terms of snaps and roles early on here. And
Speaker 1: you know, we expect a lot of young guys to
Speaker 1: play in that game, but but every single rep counts,
Speaker 1: so we'll see who steps forward today. Yeah, they should
Speaker 1: be a good crowd. By the ways, gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of people out. Let me tell you how good
Speaker 1: it is, because I rode down Ventura going north and
Speaker 1: at seven o'clock in the morning, there were forty six
Speaker 1: cars lined up to come in. Oh right, they were.
Speaker 1: They block off a lane over there, and then they
Speaker 1: let them go into the into the shoulder, and then yeah,
Speaker 1: they took up my bike lane right. And then on
Speaker 1: the way on the way back, when it was probably
Speaker 1: five minutes to eight, there were one hundred and twelve
Speaker 1: cars already lined up to come in. People were like
Speaker 1: almost tailgating for breakfast on the side of the road, right,
Speaker 1: they're taking pictures looking at the river bottoms, you know,
Speaker 1: doing whatever. But it was so I don't think they
Speaker 1: let them in till like ten ten thirty, So it
Speaker 1: was two and a half hours, two hours before they
Speaker 1: can get in. But boy, they were gonna get in.
Speaker 1: They weren't gonna get left out. So and by the way,
Speaker 1: if anybody's coming and just happens to have a VIP pass,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, you don't have to get in the one
Speaker 1: hundred and twelve car line. You can get in the
Speaker 1: five car line. How about that. Wow, that'll be the
Speaker 1: best tip you get in this next forty five minutes.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize it was Saturday until you said that, Kuy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't and doesn't feel like it, No, But when
Speaker 1: we see the crowd out there, you're gonna know what's Saturday?
Speaker 1: How every day here is Tuesday? Right, pretty much pretty
Speaker 1: much every days day or whatever. But you know what
Speaker 1: I could tell it was Saturday because there was less
Speaker 1: traffic on the roads. Uh. And they were setting up
Speaker 1: you know where larcenses in that little uh the collection collection. Uh.
Speaker 1: They were setting up a farmer's market. Oh okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: it looks like they had some pretty good produce getting
Speaker 1: ready to Okay, I'm be bought. I'm sure they did.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they did that. I wonder how many of
Speaker 1: these about the fall out. I wonder how many of
Speaker 1: the two hundred cars are listening to talking cowboys and
Speaker 1: are like, oh, what about that produce stand back there?
Speaker 1: Yeah all right? Or the VIP tip that make just
Speaker 1: of them. But I probably just caused a bunch of
Speaker 1: people to try. Let's get into that VIP later. Hopefully
Speaker 1: two hundred of those cars are listening to talking cowboys.
Speaker 1: I don't know, we'll see. Um let's go ahead and
Speaker 1: talk about what we heard from some of the coordinators
Speaker 1: yesterday and keeping it on the track of the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame game, and of course, like Rob said, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be an opportunity for some of these younger players,
Speaker 1: these guys fighting for roster spots, fighting for spots on
Speaker 1: the depth chart, to uh, to really show out and
Speaker 1: to to show what they have for this coaching staff
Speaker 1: more so than than any other time. And Dan Quinn
Speaker 1: talked to it yesterday. He said, anytime you get the
Speaker 1: chance to compete. It's a big thing, and a lot
Speaker 1: of people will like to ride off the Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame game and say, man, it's it's not gonna be
Speaker 1: the starters, it's not going to be the stars on
Speaker 1: display in Canton. However, there is a lot that's gonna
Speaker 1: come out of what's happening on Thursday. You know, if
Speaker 1: you if you listen to what some of the people
Speaker 1: are saying, Um, there's a fifty three man roster, and
Speaker 1: I know you you mentioned the coordinators, but you know
Speaker 1: they're I bet they're looking at seventy guys have a
Speaker 1: legitimate chance to make that fifty three. So yeah, you
Speaker 1: better not have a bad day, right And like we
Speaker 1: said the other day, you know, Jordan Lewis has been
Speaker 1: out rehabbing. I think he had a a little bit
Speaker 1: of a I don't know if it was a knee
Speaker 1: or a growing something like that. And Maurice Kennedy stepped
Speaker 1: up and has like caught the attention of the coaching staff.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think today and tomorrow will be really
Speaker 1: significant practices in pads because that Tuesday before they leave
Speaker 1: on Wednesday for Cleveland to go to the Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame game. It's probably going to be somewhat of a
Speaker 1: let's get the guys some looks at what we think
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's gonna do. Right, So Cards, Yeah, have the bonnet
Speaker 1: a little bit. The bonnets might come out maybe a
Speaker 1: little bit. Cards. So yeah, these two practices are are
Speaker 1: are really significant. And as we've seen, there's upgraded competition
Speaker 1: at the cornerback spot, the safety spot, linebacker, and well
Speaker 1: name it, name the position and I'll give you some competition.
Speaker 1: It kind of goes to what we talked about I
Speaker 1: think in our first show Rob when we got here
Speaker 1: to Oxnard Us. There is not a spot on this
Speaker 1: defense maybe outside of DeMarcus Lawrence and Randy Gregory that
Speaker 1: can't be up for competition. There's there's really no spot
Speaker 1: on that defense that's safe more or less. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's certain positions I would expect
Speaker 1: Layton vander esh okay, whether Micah Parsons is a starter
Speaker 1: or not, he's gonna play a ton. But but there's competition,
Speaker 1: there is there's competition. Stephen Jones actually met with the
Speaker 1: media a couple of days ago and said, fifty three
Speaker 1: man roster like mix said. He actually said sixty five guys.
Speaker 1: Sixty five that was trying to remember that number. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's there's sixty five guys that can make the you know,
Speaker 1: play for anybody. You know. Now, that doesn't mean twelve
Speaker 1: of the cuts they have to make eventually will all
Speaker 1: get claimed, but that's how they feel about the competition,
Speaker 1: and I think, you guys good problem. It's a good
Speaker 1: problem to have if that's you know, in their mind,
Speaker 1: that's what they feel like. I think a couple of
Speaker 1: spots in particular, you guys mentioned corner safety, the DBS
Speaker 1: figuring that out because you know, sometimes there's some overlap
Speaker 1: with guys who could do both figuring that out and
Speaker 1: then d line because tackle in particular figuring out that
Speaker 1: that group, because it's a pretty solid group in terms
Speaker 1: of depth, And that's not even counting Tristan Hill, who's
Speaker 1: on PUP and who knows may start the season on
Speaker 1: PUP as well. Yeah, they may put him in the
Speaker 1: back pocket. Yeah and say, look, we we've got all
Speaker 1: these guys and all want to cut somebody that I
Speaker 1: really like, But we can save a spot with Tristan
Speaker 1: Hill on PUP and let him go six weeks and
Speaker 1: then see what happens. And if you listen to Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy when he's talking about the roster, and he doesn't
Speaker 1: look at it in terms of fifty three. He looks
Speaker 1: at it in terms of sixty eight, meaning there's fifteen
Speaker 1: guys you're gonna go on the practice squad. And so
Speaker 1: he's looking at sixty eight and you know, you only
Speaker 1: got nineties, so you're not eliminating that many guys. And
Speaker 1: unlike last year, they're gonna have to start cuts along
Speaker 1: the way. It's not gonna be ninety to fifty three
Speaker 1: or whatever they did last year. I can't remember, but
Speaker 1: there's going to be cut to eighty five and eighty
Speaker 1: and you know, going along. So yeah, five on August seventeenth. Okay,
Speaker 1: so right before the second preseason game. I'm sorry, it's
Speaker 1: in between the second and the third. So yeah, you all,
Speaker 1: And and look the three positions that I identified on
Speaker 1: on offense that need to be solidified, the backup spots,
Speaker 1: none of that that's settled yet. We don't we think
Speaker 1: we know who might be the backup quarterbacks since Garrett
Speaker 1: Gilbert's going second, and they kind of said he's number
Speaker 1: two because he's taken Dak's snaps. But there's still competition there,
Speaker 1: and there's still competition with whoever might get released maybe
Speaker 1: at the end of a training camp. There's competition at
Speaker 1: the left tackle position. I don't think anybody has stood
Speaker 1: out there to take that swing tackle spot. So in
Speaker 1: my mind still Zach Martin's the swing tackle, with Connor
Speaker 1: McGovern going to play guard. And then the backup center.
Speaker 1: Who's the backup center. I don't know that anybody said, Okay,
Speaker 1: I can do this in an NFL game, right And
Speaker 1: we heard Kellen Moore say something about, well, Joan Looney's
Speaker 1: not here yet or not here now here right now?
Speaker 1: Is not here right now? Yeah, And so that tells
Speaker 1: me that, Okay, you guys that are trying to be
Speaker 1: the backup center better go Jumbo on speed dial. Would yes,
Speaker 1: I would. They may even have a plane ticket for
Speaker 1: him right just whenever, you know. So, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: the competition there is we hasn't not been settled yet,
Speaker 1: and to me, those are three very important positions. Going
Speaker 1: back to Stephen talking with the media a couple days ago,
Speaker 1: one quote he had about the quarterback spot backup quarterback,
Speaker 1: he said, we liked them all, but it's it's the
Speaker 1: same line of thinking that we've heard throughout the offseason.
Speaker 1: He said, we feel good about it. As I said,
Speaker 1: if we see something that makes us better, then we're
Speaker 1: always open to it. They're they're going to keep their
Speaker 1: eyes open also depending on how guys perform. Now, we
Speaker 1: don't know how much time more time Deck's gonna miss
Speaker 1: in practice throwing. For now, the reps are wide open,
Speaker 1: and they might be wide open for a couple preseason games,
Speaker 1: we don't know at this point. Definitely for this first game,
Speaker 1: I would think so it's an opportunity for all three backups.
Speaker 1: But look, they've added guys the first week or two
Speaker 1: of the regular season for changed their quarterback dynamics, So
Speaker 1: I would not rule out anything at that position going forward. Well,
Speaker 1: even look at the guy that's currently the backup quarterback
Speaker 1: or currently QB two, what where? When? When was he
Speaker 1: signed last year week eight of the season going into
Speaker 1: Week nine, and then he started Weak ten against Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: So I mean, there is that possibility that your backup
Speaker 1: quarterback is not on this roster right now, kind of
Speaker 1: like how Mick alluded to a little bit earlier. And
Speaker 1: I think that's that's comforting in the fact that, hey,
Speaker 1: those backup quarterback spots have not looked impressive during their
Speaker 1: time out in Knoxnard. There's still a long way to
Speaker 1: go until you really need them in terms of week
Speaker 1: one or week two of the regular season, but they're
Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of raps coming up now. Well.
Speaker 1: And the other thing when you were talking about those guys,
Speaker 1: so yesterday was the first full practice they got right
Speaker 1: without withoutout Dak there, and the ball wasn't going down
Speaker 1: the field. Not a lot of tight end checkdowns running backs.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that was kind of in
Speaker 1: the game plan to practice that type of stuff, But
Speaker 1: I can only think of two or three four passes
Speaker 1: that wentn't down the field. The one to m cd lamb,
Speaker 1: he made the diving reception at the goal line, the
Speaker 1: lack I think, yeah. Then the one at the end
Speaker 1: to McKean for a touchdown, made a nice catch the
Speaker 1: back of the end zone. But a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: they were practicing it was, you know, red zone twenty
Speaker 1: five yard in and it was a lot of checkdown.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to see if these guys now. The
Speaker 1: other thing is, you know, the defensive front has done
Speaker 1: a really good job putting pressure on the quarterbacks. And
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter seemingly if it's the first team or
Speaker 1: the second team. Especially the second team. Uh yeah, those
Speaker 1: guys have got to step up on And that's why
Speaker 1: I'm somewhat concerned about the backup tackle spot, because I
Speaker 1: don't know that anybody has got their hand up in
Speaker 1: the air and said this is my spot. And that
Speaker 1: includes tied n Secki, the veteran, Josh Ball, their fourth
Speaker 1: round draft choice, and even Terrence Steele, who got a
Speaker 1: ton of reps last year or snaps because he ended
Speaker 1: up starting I think nine or ten games. I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody has stepped up yet. No, I don't think
Speaker 1: so at all. Now, I kind of want to go
Speaker 1: back to what Stephen Jones was talking about, and he
Speaker 1: said a couple of different things when he met with
Speaker 1: the media the other day, but he also talked about
Speaker 1: guys who stuck out to him, and the first name
Speaker 1: off his tongue was Kelvin Joseph. No, it was Fat exactly.
Speaker 1: He called him fat boss Man Fat. As of course,
Speaker 1: as his music name goes, he goes by. But what
Speaker 1: have you seen from Calvin Joseph. He was limited in
Speaker 1: the last practice, so it's been a couple of days.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll see him back out here today because he
Speaker 1: was on the bands with Britt Brown on Friday, but
Speaker 1: or excuse me on Thursday. But what have you guys
Speaker 1: seen from Kelvin Joseph and how has he stepped up
Speaker 1: in the regard of maybe challenging a guy like Anthony
Speaker 1: Brown for that cornerback two spot. I think that we
Speaker 1: finally saw him and he's been playing left corner behind
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown. We saw him make a couple plays on
Speaker 1: the ball, and the thing that I've noticed with him
Speaker 1: is he has catchup speed. Cornerbacks are gonna get beat,
Speaker 1: that's just what's gonna happen. But can you catch up
Speaker 1: when the ball's in the air. And he did it
Speaker 1: twice the last couple of practices before he uh sat
Speaker 1: out the last practice or two and deflect deflected passes.
Speaker 1: So I thought that was encouraging because Rob, well, we
Speaker 1: didn't really see him in the offseason right now. He
Speaker 1: missed like ten days because of COVID quarantine, right and
Speaker 1: so yeah, he got back out there for Mini camp,
Speaker 1: but it was like two quick practices So he's got swagger. Man,
Speaker 1: he's got he's got swag. He's he talks about it.
Speaker 1: You see him talking on the field. That's that's important.
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't want to be reckless out there
Speaker 1: as a rookie cornerback, but he's you gotta have a
Speaker 1: short memory, and I think he has that. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you see his talent out there, his physical ability. If
Speaker 1: you see him stand next to some of the other
Speaker 1: corners that they've acquired drafted, he's different looking because he's
Speaker 1: five ten as opposed to six four or sixty three.
Speaker 1: He's not every guy that they bring in is gonna be,
Speaker 1: you know, basketball player. But he does have speed, he
Speaker 1: does have ball skills. And but I will say this,
Speaker 1: name a cornerback on this roster, and they've probably made
Speaker 1: a play on the football, including Anthony Brown with interception.
Speaker 1: It's gonna say, Anthony Brown's looks to me like he's
Speaker 1: off to a really nice start. So I don't know
Speaker 1: if that job is going to be taken from him
Speaker 1: very easily. Is that encouraging to you? Not only the
Speaker 1: fact that, hey, Anthony Brown is being challenged, but Anthony
Speaker 1: Brown is stepping up to the table because I feel
Speaker 1: like that's something that we haven't had from him from
Speaker 1: the expectations. He's been a solid corner. He hasn't been
Speaker 1: a bad corner, but he hasn't necessarily taken that next
Speaker 1: step that you would anticipate from a guy like that.
Speaker 1: And now is a veteran with guys behind him clamoring
Speaker 1: for his arting job. He seems to be, like you said,
Speaker 1: off to a great start. He's got to stay healthy.
Speaker 1: Last year he was. He was injured during training camp.
Speaker 1: He played a couple of games, started, then he got
Speaker 1: injured again, miss games. He's just got to stay healthy
Speaker 1: because he is. He's the most veteran corner right yep.
Speaker 1: Off those ten my head. And you know, they signed
Speaker 1: him to a three year deal for like fifteen million dollars,
Speaker 1: so they saw something in him that they wanted to keep.
Speaker 1: So if he keeps playing the way he is right now,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe Kelvin Joseph they got to look at him,
Speaker 1: is maybe a slot guy. See what he can do there.
Speaker 1: You don't want to overload a rookie right away and
Speaker 1: give him too many things to do. But I've always
Speaker 1: thought he's been a very good steady player. Has he
Speaker 1: been flashy, No, not really. But you know what, last year,
Speaker 1: towards the end of the year, you saw him come
Speaker 1: up with an interception. I don't remember his interception or two.
Speaker 1: But he's he's got some skills and they've got to
Speaker 1: use him somehow, some way on that field. He could
Speaker 1: play inside, you know, so you can move him around.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've seen Kelvin Joseph really inside. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've kept him on the outside. We talk about Laydon
Speaker 1: vander Esh's number of games missed the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: thirteen games. I think Anthony Brown's missed thirteen games the
Speaker 1: past two seasons, so I mean injuries have kept him back.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they like him. He is a veteran guy
Speaker 1: and can and look, they can put him in different positions.
Speaker 1: So um, I don't know that that's that's one to watch.
Speaker 1: I still think week one I would expect him to
Speaker 1: be the starter. But that's it's still very very early.
Speaker 1: Whenever Mick gets out the media guy, that's when you
Speaker 1: know he's digging deep for this next stat now. But
Speaker 1: while he was on Anthony Brown, so in twenty nineteen
Speaker 1: he started four of nine games he played. Remember he
Speaker 1: suffered the season ending injury was a tricep or bicep
Speaker 1: something like that. And then last year he play started
Speaker 1: eight of ten games, so he missed six. So six
Speaker 1: and seven is look at that job. Thank you all done? Everybody?
Speaker 1: All right? Rob? What did you What else did you
Speaker 1: hear from Steven Jones when he spoke to the media
Speaker 1: on Thursday, Oh, man, I have to go. So he
Speaker 1: mentioned Layton Vanderish I believe, who I think has played
Speaker 1: awfully well so far. And uh, he mentioned two of
Speaker 1: the defensive tackles, Neville Gallimore and Quentin Bohannah. Uh, talking
Speaker 1: about those two guys, how they've kind of caught his
Speaker 1: eye also, so yeah, um, and and those were just
Speaker 1: kind of quick off the top of his head. After
Speaker 1: he mentioned Kelvin Joseph, if I remember correctly, Yeah. Um.
Speaker 1: He talked about Dak I know we've touched on on
Speaker 1: that a little bit. With the strange shoulder muscle. They
Speaker 1: still are optimistic he can play in preseason. Now when
Speaker 1: that will be, we don't know. It's a day to
Speaker 1: day thing right now. Mike McCarthy said they'll kind of
Speaker 1: reevaluate him Monday, go through the weekend and see where
Speaker 1: he's at in terms of ny can he get back
Speaker 1: to throwing. But they still think he can do something
Speaker 1: in preseason, so that would be encouraging it. So let's
Speaker 1: do this with Dak. So he's not going to practice
Speaker 1: today and he's not going to practice tomorrow because he
Speaker 1: said Monday, I'll tell us what we can do. Right,
Speaker 1: So does he get out there on Tuesday because wednesday's
Speaker 1: travel day, Thursday's the game. He's absolutely not playing, right,
Speaker 1: So Friday is an off day, Saturday you're going against
Speaker 1: the Rams, and then Sunday Monday are days off, so
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of chances to throw. So Tuesday, Wednesday,
Speaker 1: Thursday of the following week our practices and then they
Speaker 1: leave Thursday late for a Friday preseason game. Am I right? Yes?
Speaker 1: And then you're off when you get back. So I
Speaker 1: figured out that they could They could actually easily give
Speaker 1: him twelve days if they wanted to to not throw.
Speaker 1: But can you tie him down for twelve days because
Speaker 1: you know he's already out there doing everything but throwing,
Speaker 1: and as Mike said, when they do the mock game
Speaker 1: in the afternoon, he's out there, he's just not throwing.
Speaker 1: The ball, he's doing the walkthroughs, he's in all the meetings.
Speaker 1: We saw him in the drills, not throwing, but he was.
Speaker 1: He was out there playing wide receiver for the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: catching balls. So to me, that sort of suggests that
Speaker 1: it may be just tightness, that he really didn't you
Speaker 1: do some damage in there. And according to him, yesterday
Speaker 1: or yesterday, number one, he said, if he was playing
Speaker 1: in a game and that happened, he wouldn't have come out.
Speaker 1: And number two, if that happened the week leading up
Speaker 1: to a game, he said he would have been able
Speaker 1: to play the game. He would do every here's how
Speaker 1: he put it. I would do everything I could to
Speaker 1: be able to be ready to play the game. He
Speaker 1: said that most likely sounded like he didn't warm up
Speaker 1: well enough and then he tried a deep throw and
Speaker 1: that's probably what caused at least some of it. Don't
Speaker 1: know for sure. He also said, you know, throughout his
Speaker 1: rehab process, he was throwing football sitting down, you know,
Speaker 1: just trying to get back into it a little bit,
Speaker 1: and maybe that could have caused some stress. That's a
Speaker 1: little unusual on the body. You know you're going if
Speaker 1: you go back all the way through a year, he
Speaker 1: hasn't thrown as much as he normally would, so you know,
Speaker 1: now he's really ramping up, and it's just hard to
Speaker 1: know for sure. But yeah, I mean, every every indication
Speaker 1: you get is this is not a serious thing. Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore of the offensive coordinator, I thought summed it up
Speaker 1: best yesterday when he said, when it's still July and
Speaker 1: we play our first game in September, we're gonna be
Speaker 1: smart about it. I mean, when you think about an
Speaker 1: entire month gap there. Plus, they're not going to push him.
Speaker 1: There's no reason too, because the season depends on him.
Speaker 1: The season depends on him being healthy and playing at
Speaker 1: a high level. Yeah. One, I think cautiousness is definitely
Speaker 1: the number one key right now. I mean I asked you, guys,
Speaker 1: I think both during one of our other shows, what
Speaker 1: was your number one priority going into training camp? Stay healthy?
Speaker 1: That's always the priority whenever training camp comes around. So
Speaker 1: if he has to sit out twelve days and it
Speaker 1: has to time down like you said, Mick for twelve days,
Speaker 1: I think that's something that the Cowboys should certainly consider. Now,
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Speaker 1: The first one comes from Bluff City Cowboys. He said,
Speaker 1: which undrafted free agents if any have stood out to
Speaker 1: you guys in practices. And I'm even gonna throw this
Speaker 1: back to last year because of the undrafted free agents
Speaker 1: not actually having a full offseason. I want to throw
Speaker 1: last year's undrafted free agents in this year's anybody stick
Speaker 1: out to you? Mickey? You know pause one guy that
Speaker 1: I was some interested in Okay. Um I forgot his
Speaker 1: first name, Tyler Coyle safety. Unfortunately for him, the safety
Speaker 1: position just got a little bit more crowded when they
Speaker 1: brought in Malie Cooker just tad and I was thinking,
Speaker 1: that's probably the guy that might pay the price if
Speaker 1: they keep all those veterans safeties. He would at least
Speaker 1: be I think a practice squad guy. Uh. And then
Speaker 1: uh rico'dowell the the running back from last year from
Speaker 1: last year who made the team. You but you said,
Speaker 1: go back to last year. I think he's uh. McCarthy
Speaker 1: talked about it that he seems more, Uh, he seems quicker,
Speaker 1: he's in better shape. Uh. And um, you know he's
Speaker 1: got a chance to make it as a as a
Speaker 1: third running back. Uh. And then also going back to
Speaker 1: uh Suo is that how you say it? Su the fullback. Um,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what if they want shay Wu not
Speaker 1: su Wu, well, it's kind of spelled dead way. Um.
Speaker 1: Uh he if they need a big block back, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe one back sometimes. You know, he's kind of getting
Speaker 1: some reps this time. So we'll he ended up on
Speaker 1: the practice squad last year. We'll see where that one goes.
Speaker 1: He borderlined being active at one point whenever Zeke was
Speaker 1: heard and he missed the game. Sha Wu was one
Speaker 1: of the guys that they were going to bring up
Speaker 1: and bring onto the squad, and they protected him a
Speaker 1: couple different times too, So I think they do feel
Speaker 1: very highly about what Alana Lua does bring to the table.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard for I'm sorry, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: hard for an undrafted guy to make this team. Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean when you have eleven draft picks, not all
Speaker 1: you know, not every draft pick will make this team
Speaker 1: pop possibly so um, you know, Mickey mentioned the full
Speaker 1: back position and Mike kind of reference maybe more two
Speaker 1: back sets. We'll see, um Nick Ralston's a full back
Speaker 1: in there that you know, maybe he has an opportunity
Speaker 1: to show something in preseason because parents were here the
Speaker 1: other day, were they wow, Bill, you'll leave it to
Speaker 1: Bill Jones, right, that's the building him. I saw an
Speaker 1: interview in these People and I'm going, who's that? And
Speaker 1: then I saw the back of the Ladies the Ladies
Speaker 1: jersey and It's had Ralston's number and his name back there.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking in the pro shop, there's probably not a
Speaker 1: lot of Ralston jerseys being sold. Probably said it's probably
Speaker 1: his parents. Brandon Smith kind of jumps out of you
Speaker 1: just just his natural ability. Um, And I know they
Speaker 1: like him coming out. They thought he was a draftable
Speaker 1: type of prospect. But I just don't know how you
Speaker 1: crack this receiver corps. Yeah, think about this the way
Speaker 1: they're talking about Noah Brown. Yeah, and Cedric Wilson. So
Speaker 1: there's five right there. Mike McCarthy said, I love Noah
Speaker 1: one spot pretty much. Yeah, yeah there. Maybe if you
Speaker 1: keep six. Maybe if you keep six. So the the
Speaker 1: undrafted guy that stood out to me the most is
Speaker 1: the guy that made the team last year, and that's
Speaker 1: Sean mccun at tight end. And it's not it's not
Speaker 1: just the one handed catch that he made. He had
Speaker 1: a good year last year for them. In limited snaps,
Speaker 1: I thought he was solid. So he might be able
Speaker 1: to take a jump and be the be the third
Speaker 1: tight end this year. We'll see. Well, no Blake Bell
Speaker 1: this year. And McKuen kind of filled in that role
Speaker 1: last year as the blocking said, almost that h back
Speaker 1: look in the backfield, and he was used in a
Speaker 1: lot of run packages. And like you said, even though
Speaker 1: his limited snaps. He did a really nice job and
Speaker 1: he stood up well. Plus he's bigger this year than
Speaker 1: he was last year. So I think McKuen does does
Speaker 1: make sense in that regard, and he makes it hard
Speaker 1: for either the other rookie free agents you Banks are
Speaker 1: Land to try to even sprinkle that. Honestly, I think
Speaker 1: the team I think McKuen does have an advantage over
Speaker 1: sprinkle to make the team so far. If they're gonna
Speaker 1: take three, I mean, you've got Shultz and you got
Speaker 1: he kind of gotta keep three tight end. You gotta
Speaker 1: have three right to rotate in. Even if you've kept
Speaker 1: a fullback, you gotta keep three tight ends. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think you're looking at the same three as last year. Okay,
Speaker 1: this question comes from Brennan says, how should Zeke Empollard
Speaker 1: snaps be split up this season? I know it's early,
Speaker 1: but he said eighty twenty Zeke or more like fifty fifty.
Speaker 1: What do you think, Mickey, not fifty fifty, oh, closer
Speaker 1: to No. Eighty twenty. Eighty twenty would give Zeke twenty
Speaker 1: snaps a game and Pollard maybe ten. That's sixty six percent.
Speaker 1: What which is sixty six twenty and ten. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I'm saying, okay, whatever the percentages, it ain't gonna be
Speaker 1: fifty fifty. Zeke is still Zeke, right, and Pollard has
Speaker 1: look one of these the you know what makes me
Speaker 1: think of it? You know it's not the same. I
Speaker 1: won't do that, get into it, say it with your
Speaker 1: chest because because because because you know who else showed
Speaker 1: up on Thursday for practice, Kevin Sweeney. So he was
Speaker 1: the star of the replacement games in eighty seven, right,
Speaker 1: he was the quarterback and ten x Shram was just
Speaker 1: enamored with him, and they kept him on the roster.
Speaker 1: They kept him the next year and finally Tom gave
Speaker 1: him a start and I think he threw like five
Speaker 1: interceptions and that was the end of that. So sometimes
Speaker 1: what my point is, you don't Pollard's good in his role?
Speaker 1: Now do you want to over expose him? And as
Speaker 1: ze capable of twenty twenty five snaps a game, because
Speaker 1: if you if you look at when he got more
Speaker 1: opportunities save a long run or so, he was not
Speaker 1: even that one game they had a long run and
Speaker 1: he was averaging two yards a carry. And again, which
Speaker 1: my point is going back to the offensive line. You know,
Speaker 1: they weren't very good, and Zeke was managing four yards
Speaker 1: a carry without a long run because he had to
Speaker 1: plow in there every time, and Pollard until that long
Speaker 1: run that one game, was averaging two yards a carry.
Speaker 1: So just be careful you use him in spots because
Speaker 1: I think the change of pace really messes with a defense.
Speaker 1: They're used to the rhythm of Zeke running the balls,
Speaker 1: Zeke running the ball, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you put this guy out there and you get him
Speaker 1: outside and the speed surprises him. So I think the
Speaker 1: role he has if it was twenty ten, I think
Speaker 1: that'd be really good. When Zach Martin, I keep saying this,
Speaker 1: when he went out on Thanksgiving, they had found something
Speaker 1: in their run game, even with the other injuries on
Speaker 1: the old line. When he went out, it really affected them.
Speaker 1: And Mickey's not wrong here. I mean the Cincinnati game
Speaker 1: eleven carries for thirty nine yards long of seventeen. San
Speaker 1: Francisco game, twelve carries for sixty nine yards long of forty,
Speaker 1: so eleven for twenty some rights for more than enough
Speaker 1: of his carries nine for twelve against Philly, So I'm
Speaker 1: not saying he's a bad He is explosive, and he
Speaker 1: was more explosive in a change of pace role than
Speaker 1: Zeke was last year. Zeke all with stuff. You got
Speaker 1: to find a place for him, and I think you
Speaker 1: could maybe find a place for him as a pass
Speaker 1: catcher out of the backfield, more so than they've used
Speaker 1: him in the past, because that's what he did in college.
Speaker 1: Somewhat um but yeah, it's gonna it's gonna be hard
Speaker 1: to really make it a fifty fifty split. I think
Speaker 1: Zeke is still the guy now. Mike did say he
Speaker 1: doesn't z he doesn't have to be twenty five thirty.
Speaker 1: A game carries a game. They want to get him
Speaker 1: ready for December and hopefully January and February and maybe
Speaker 1: February and the fourth quarter. That's good, that's a good point.
Speaker 1: I keep him fresh. Uh. Sticking with the offensive side,
Speaker 1: Jay asks some conflicting reports on Terrence Steel. Has he
Speaker 1: been good enough to challenge for the backup tackle spot
Speaker 1: or not? Yeah, based on this group, I think they're
Speaker 1: all I think they're all in the same mode right now.
Speaker 1: So yeah, because they've they've basically moved Brandon Knight into guard,
Speaker 1: although he's been playing susively, right, but he yeah, exclusively,
Speaker 1: but he's gone some tackle. But yeah, right now, the
Speaker 1: three guys we mentioned earlier on the show, I think
Speaker 1: it's a dead heat. And it's not a dead heat
Speaker 1: because they're fighting for first place in the finish line
Speaker 1: like a swimming meat. It's about got Katie Ledecki. How
Speaker 1: about her eight hundred meters eight hundred meters and she's
Speaker 1: pulling away at the end and everybody's touch She's like
Speaker 1: a machine, right. Everybody's talking about, well, this could be
Speaker 1: her last race. And they asked her and they go
Speaker 1: she goes no, she goes twenty four. It's in my sights,
Speaker 1: she's only twenty four. It's like she's not washed up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but she's been around for so long. Pretty impressive. I
Speaker 1: don't know how to transition, but I don't know how
Speaker 1: I got to it either, But glad you're with us here.
Speaker 1: On this edition of Talking Olympics, um Our, Buddy Kofax said,
Speaker 1: which position group do you think the team goes heavy
Speaker 1: on twelve dbs eleven offensive linemen or more defensive linemen?
Speaker 1: And I know this is a tough question because, like
Speaker 1: Stephen Joe's there's sixty five names out there that could
Speaker 1: make this roster. They're gonna have twelve decisions to be
Speaker 1: made pretty quickly in the next couple of weeks. If
Speaker 1: you were in his shoes, what would you choose and
Speaker 1: what would you go heavy on? I this is just
Speaker 1: me from what I've seen so far. Say it with
Speaker 1: your chest. I think there's more talent in depth on
Speaker 1: the defensive line than the offensive line or even the secondary.
Speaker 1: In the secondary, too, you can kind of you can
Speaker 1: kind of flex there a little bit with a couple
Speaker 1: of spots because you got guys who could, you know,
Speaker 1: play safety in a pinch like corner, so you can
Speaker 1: potentially go lighter in the secondary. They kept ten dbs
Speaker 1: last year. I could see eleven, Okay, I think somebody
Speaker 1: mentioned eleven. Yes, was it McCarthy did? He said eleven?
Speaker 1: He said, I could. I've seen it as high as
Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen. Yeah, I could see eleven. Defensive line.
Speaker 1: They kept ten last year. They've got sixteen on the
Speaker 1: roster right now. I mean, you can see if I
Speaker 1: can cut six even a Justin Hamilton, who you don't
Speaker 1: think of right off the bat. Reference him yesterday, you know,
Speaker 1: and he played quite a bit last year. At times,
Speaker 1: I make he's counting, and I'm also counting looking at
Speaker 1: this roster. I mean I can probably easily cut four six,
Speaker 1: four and then five borderline. Yeah okay. And then and
Speaker 1: then it comes down to do you want to keep Gholston?
Speaker 1: Do you want to keep an eye up? Well, he's
Speaker 1: got to get himself on the field. He's a third
Speaker 1: round pick. Yeah, I know, but still, uh, he better
Speaker 1: start getting on the field. And but the rest of
Speaker 1: the guys, I mean, when you look at it, you know,
Speaker 1: and and you know they can still do like I said,
Speaker 1: put Chris pup. So that saves a spot. From what
Speaker 1: I've been told, Doriance Armstrong is really playing well. And
Speaker 1: that didn't come from Jerry. Wow, Okay, because last year
Speaker 1: from j Jerry wanted to talk about was Door and Armstrong. Right, Uh,
Speaker 1: Bashams looked good. Uh, you know the new guys Urban
Speaker 1: look good. Watkins is playing with the first um so yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's a crowded group and uh, and you
Speaker 1: know that's a good thing. And look, we got a
Speaker 1: long ways to go before fifty three, right, A lot
Speaker 1: of practices and a lot of preseason games. So uh,
Speaker 1: I'll let them start knocking on wood co GMS Mickey's Bagnolan,
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips keeping defensive lineman and there's something to be
Speaker 1: said for that too. No, it is. It's a good
Speaker 1: problem to have now, com okay, oh, okay, a raise then? Yeah? Right?
Speaker 1: Um John asked this question and I tease to going
Speaker 1: into the break, and I believe there's a little tongue
Speaker 1: in cheek here, but it's actually kind of an intriguing question.
Speaker 1: But should Dak hire an MLB pitching coach or I
Speaker 1: guess trainer to help him key up his arm fresh
Speaker 1: during the off season after the problems he's had hit
Speaker 1: the start of camp, it was probably as fresh as
Speaker 1: it could be this laughs offseason, right, I think so. Well,
Speaker 1: he wasn't throwing that much from October till he was
Speaker 1: throw February. February, he probably didn't do a lot of
Speaker 1: throwing when when he couldn't even stand up on his own,
Speaker 1: he wasn't throwing nine routes or go routes. Maybe he
Speaker 1: should have gone to spring training bring Tom Housing right, Yeah, no, yes, no,
Speaker 1: I'd say no. I think he said he's never really
Speaker 1: experienced this before. Yeah, that that was you know that.
Speaker 1: That's why it's it surprised him a little bit. Man.
Speaker 1: Don't don't talk about baseball round Bradsham right now. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, that poor guy. He's a Cups fan for
Speaker 1: Chris Bryan Gone. Actually he said he woke up this
Speaker 1: morning the TV was still on. He woke up at
Speaker 1: four am and Olympic baseball? Was that poor guy? All right,
Speaker 1: let's take our second break when we come back linebacker rankings.
Speaker 1: We gave you a home work assignment on Thursday. Let's
Speaker 1: see how both of these guys did. I'll join in
Speaker 1: as well. We're gonna rank the four linebackers as they
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Speaker 1: Monday at eleven am Central time. Okay. Homework assignment on
Speaker 1: Thursday was to watch the linebackers and see exactly how
Speaker 1: they looked. How did they look on Thursday's practice in
Speaker 1: what you've seen throughout camp, Mackey, I might have to
Speaker 1: have a four and four A how are you going
Speaker 1: to judge Keane O'Neill because he's a linebacker, but he's
Speaker 1: not an every down linebacker. He's a change up kind
Speaker 1: of matchup linebacker, right, Okay, Um, Layton Vandersh, Michael Parsons,
Speaker 1: h Jalen Smith, and then Keane O'Neill with with Jabril
Speaker 1: Cox coming, Okay, I'm cool with five here. Then I'm
Speaker 1: cool with that, so five Okay, I'll go Uh Layton Vanderesh,
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, Ganneil, Jalen Smith, Luke Gifford. Wow, he's getting opportunities. Okay.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, there was a couple of
Speaker 1: the drills they were doing that he went out their
Speaker 1: second with Michael Parsons. Yeah. I was about to say
Speaker 1: he ran with the twos a little bit. The other
Speaker 1: day they had Yeah, they had a surprise period down
Speaker 1: on this end here where offense was backed up against
Speaker 1: their own one had to get two straight first downs
Speaker 1: to win the drill, and he ran with the second
Speaker 1: and third teams and had it. I think at least
Speaker 1: two would be stops to force the offense off the field.
Speaker 1: Con jumped out. He's got to stay healthy. Sure, he's
Speaker 1: had problems with his health. I'm not saying Jalen's off
Speaker 1: to a bad start. It can't buy any means, But
Speaker 1: I just I think Layton, just Layton jumps out at you.
Speaker 1: Just how he's moving. He just looks great. He seems
Speaker 1: like he's in the right spot with his keys. Mike
Speaker 1: has made the most splash plays, and he's more versatile,
Speaker 1: more versatile that jumps out at you. Two. He's everywhere.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's dropping, he's rushing, he's playing inside outside slot.
Speaker 1: And I think I think Neils made some plays on
Speaker 1: the ball. Has he little bits made at least one
Speaker 1: that I can remember, Okay a little bit, I mean
Speaker 1: not not just in team that's as much as I
Speaker 1: remember Jalen Smith making two, though not just in team.
Speaker 1: I mean I've seen him, you know, cover Zeke in
Speaker 1: a one on one drill and you're thinking, Okay, you
Speaker 1: know he's he's that's the safety in him coming out.
Speaker 1: But it's it's and we're talking about plays on the ball,
Speaker 1: meaning pass plays. Yes, this team's got to stop the run. Great,
Speaker 1: So when we see more uh you know, drills against
Speaker 1: the run, they're not putting guys on the ground. Uh,
Speaker 1: maybe we're not going to see that until we see
Speaker 1: preseason games, right, But again, it's not judged the linebackers
Speaker 1: just on pass plays. They got to be able to
Speaker 1: stop the run. That was the biggest problem last year.
Speaker 1: They could not stop the run. Agree five yards a
Speaker 1: carry they were giving up. My math tells me in
Speaker 1: two carries that's a first down, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 1: And look, we are not experts at this watching practice,
Speaker 1: knowing everybody's assignments. Knowing I mean, Micah Parsons could be
Speaker 1: having a bust here and there that we don't see,
Speaker 1: but we see him pick off a pass and we're
Speaker 1: thinking he's having a great practice. You see these flash
Speaker 1: plays and it kind of deters your thoughts away from
Speaker 1: from a good practice to a bad practice pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: But he you see him penetrating against the run, and
Speaker 1: you see him getting in the right spot, like picking
Speaker 1: the right gap to hit against the run. It's remarkable
Speaker 1: for a guy that didn't play football last year. Well,
Speaker 1: and a lot of what dan Quinn was talking about
Speaker 1: yesterday was about the linebackers and in these plays and
Speaker 1: in these these scenarios where there's a lot of run
Speaker 1: defense and you're trying to get the run established, and
Speaker 1: that's really what they did on Thursday. You're looking for leverage,
Speaker 1: You're looking for positioning leverage and where you're hitting a
Speaker 1: guy because you're not gonna put Tony Pollard, Ezekiel Elia,
Speaker 1: whoever's running the football on the ground. You're not gonna
Speaker 1: put him on the ground. So you're looking to be
Speaker 1: where you're going to hit him from where that leverage is.
Speaker 1: And I think that's why I would probably still put
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith third, because he has had a couple of
Speaker 1: those looks and Keane O'Neil he hasn't had the flash
Speaker 1: plays he's had, Like you said, he's gotten his hand
Speaker 1: on a couple of balls, but he hasn't made the
Speaker 1: flash plays and it's harder to see what he's doing. However,
Speaker 1: I do like Keyan O'Neil better in coverage than what
Speaker 1: I've seen from Jalen Smith in coverage, and that's pretty over.
Speaker 1: That's a pretty easy, uh thing to look that look at.
Speaker 1: But I'm just trying to change it up a little bit. No,
Speaker 1: I agree change and I agree when I think the
Speaker 1: seat when the season starts, I think Jalen Smith will
Speaker 1: have more snaps than Neil. That's that's that's my guess.
Speaker 1: But I feel like you would be bold going the
Speaker 1: other way. Yeah, so I would say, by the way,
Speaker 1: Layton Vandersch, Michael Parson, Wait, so who's Neil Smith? Who's
Speaker 1: Neil replacing? When he's on the field, he would just
Speaker 1: rotate in at the SEC probably with late A team, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm just I mean, I wouldn't take my best linebacker
Speaker 1: off the field, not a lot, a lot, but not
Speaker 1: taking Parsons off the field. He would replace Jalen Yeah,
Speaker 1: in change up right, Yeah, I feel like that was
Speaker 1: the original plan. Yeah, because if if if you look
Speaker 1: at what they've done when it's been three linebackers on
Speaker 1: the first team, it's been Jalen, Layton and Parsons. Well,
Speaker 1: what is Jalen Smith's best attribute? It's running downhill? Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: middle linebacker. What is Keona'neil's best attribute playing on the
Speaker 1: edge being in coverage? Yeah, there's your changeup. But you
Speaker 1: got to take somebody off the field. So you're taking
Speaker 1: Jalen and Layton off, maybe putting Michael Parsons out there.
Speaker 1: We've seen a lot of a lot of sets with
Speaker 1: eleven and forty two. I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 1: But if they're lining The encouraging thing to me is
Speaker 1: if teams are lining up in base offense or two
Speaker 1: tight ends, they're going out there with three linebackers, none
Speaker 1: of this nickel stuff and bringing us skinny bone safety
Speaker 1: to play linebacker. They're not the run. No, they better not.
Speaker 1: I think they will. That's why they got in trouble.
Speaker 1: Last year's Mickey's biggest pet peeve of the season. Not
Speaker 1: having a strong side linebacker on the field against two
Speaker 1: tight ends. I think you're gonna be out of luck again.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna do a lot of that. Well,
Speaker 1: then why are they practicing three linebackers out there. They
Speaker 1: are with the first team and then well, I don't
Speaker 1: why when they go nickel. I don't want three linebackers
Speaker 1: out there. I'm talking about bass, gotcha. They better have
Speaker 1: three of them out there and stop the run. Twenty
Speaker 1: five hundred yards they gave up running the ball. That
Speaker 1: just doesn't compute and against the run. I wouldn't qualify
Speaker 1: Neil as a skinny bone safety. No, no, I mean
Speaker 1: taking a phrase two years ago, but they would put
Speaker 1: they would put Xavier Woods in a linebacker. I agree
Speaker 1: with you, but I'm just saying, like, like Dan Quinn
Speaker 1: told us yesterday, he tricked Neil into thinking he was
Speaker 1: a safety, but he was as fine and played around
Speaker 1: the box. His whole career is two twenty something. He's
Speaker 1: heavier than that, right, Yeah, he's definitely beat there. He
Speaker 1: looks than that. He looks like a linebacker. See what
Speaker 1: he weighed in a two twenty five. I don't know
Speaker 1: how many snaps he's gonna play. I just know that
Speaker 1: the ten or fifteen, the decordinator likes him, knows him,
Speaker 1: trusts him. Yeah, he understands the defense. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be out there so I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a matchup thing. How they have guys
Speaker 1: that can match up even in nickel, how they can
Speaker 1: match up with who the other team has on the field.
Speaker 1: Which I love that because they've had they've had defenses
Speaker 1: out there when Parsons has been out there and they've
Speaker 1: lined him up on in the slot, like if the
Speaker 1: running back goes out into the slot or he they
Speaker 1: put Parsons out there on him. And he's been on
Speaker 1: wide receivers too, and because they don't know if he's
Speaker 1: covering or if the Cowboys are in own and he's
Speaker 1: blitzing from out there, and I think that that's boy,
Speaker 1: He's He's really important in that type of scheme. One
Speaker 1: of the first practices of the of the camp, Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons was about thirty yards downfield having to cover Cede
Speaker 1: Lamb over the middle because they were playing zone and
Speaker 1: he was not blitzing off the edge, but he was
Speaker 1: covered outside in the slot and he had to rotate
Speaker 1: as assignment. He kept up pretty well I think with
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb and that was a scrambled play, yes, and
Speaker 1: he ended up on the goal line with CD and
Speaker 1: CD did not come down with the football, which is
Speaker 1: saying something because he's been fantastic throughout this camp really
Speaker 1: quickly before we wrap things up as the helicopter final.
Speaker 1: If that's like a third one that's come back, they're
Speaker 1: loaded day. Yeah, they are. Thoughts on dan Quinn calling
Speaker 1: the defense from the press box level. My friend Rob
Speaker 1: I was a little surprised just because not knowing that
Speaker 1: he's done that in the past, just because he's so
Speaker 1: hands on. Yeah, you know you kind of he reminds
Speaker 1: you of Rod Marinelli a little bit, who was on
Speaker 1: the field that you know, when he coached all the defense.
Speaker 1: But I get it. I think probably that would be
Speaker 1: the most logical thing. I would think, if you want
Speaker 1: a bird's eye view and you don't have all this
Speaker 1: noise down there, you get a better view up top
Speaker 1: than you do down on the field. So I would
Speaker 1: understand why he would want to do that. So it
Speaker 1: helps out that George Edwards is on the sideline, and
Speaker 1: so you've got with You've got you've got a defensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: a guy that's been the defensive coordinator in multiple spots
Speaker 1: on the sideline with you, So that that I think
Speaker 1: helps out with the communication. He said there'd be a
Speaker 1: couple of guys up in the booth with him. He
Speaker 1: didn't say who, but yeah, that would make sense to
Speaker 1: have George down on the field. I would imagine one
Speaker 1: of the dB coaches would be up there. They would
Speaker 1: probably keep is a dirty the kind of assistant on
Speaker 1: the field along with Leon thinking Al Harris would probably
Speaker 1: be on the field because he's a pretty hands on
Speaker 1: guy too. That both of those dB coaches are on
Speaker 1: the field, Yeah, they'll have uh, the other linebacker coach
Speaker 1: McCurley up I bet Um and if there's any other
Speaker 1: defensive assistant that they can they can put up two.
Speaker 1: Hey how about how about Hunter the punter two field goals?
Speaker 1: Kick two field goals. They were like thirty five yarders,
Speaker 1: twenty four and thirty five. Had a donk from forty
Speaker 1: seven forty seven. He hit the left upright and they
Speaker 1: were keeping score. So if you if you tried to
Speaker 1: field goal and you missed, it was the other team
Speaker 1: got eight points and they were sitting there going this
Speaker 1: is to win it. This is to win it that
Speaker 1: it hit the upright from forty seven. Goodness, Hunter the
Speaker 1: punter handling the punting and kicks and you know what
Speaker 1: next show we need to talk about that. Okay, I
Speaker 1: think we're out of time. We are, uh Williams shaking
Speaker 1: his head, he was like, yes, talk about that. We
Speaker 1: have not we have not seen the kicker kick anything
Speaker 1: yet and until that, no, I mean the kicker. Oh,
Speaker 1: Greg's are line, Yes, Greg leg and you know that
Speaker 1: back surgery should have been cleared up. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he's got something else, but he has not kicked
Speaker 1: one that we've seen in practice, and I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's a concern or not. When you're backup, kicker
Speaker 1: is your punter? Well, tune in on Monday Must see television.
Speaker 1: It's the kicker punter battle here on Talking Cowboys. We
Speaker 1: will hit it and we will talk about it. But
Speaker 1: we've got plenty more that we're gonna hit from this
Speaker 1: busy weekend of practices. But until next time. From Oxnard
Speaker 1: for Rob Phillips, I'm making or excuse me, he's Mickey's
Speaker 1: bagnar I am always I got a little ahead of
Speaker 1: myself there, he's Mickey's Bagnola. I'm Kyle Yeomen. So long
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