Speaker 1: Man, what's hand him? Man? You got Marshaw be Small Lynch.
Speaker 2: Doug Hendrickson and Gavin Knew someone you're listening.
Speaker 3: To politics, you're knowing to be you're known to be.
Speaker 2: Marshawn, my guy, how are you? Buddy fresh?
Speaker 1: You're talking to me like I was just which's handing? Right?
Speaker 2: I'm doing good? How are you doing?
Speaker 1: Damn cool? Cool, cooling?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: As you know, Marshawn and our listeners need to know,
Speaker 2: our partner is down for a few weeks. That is
Speaker 2: Gavin the governor. He's dealing with some stuff in La
Speaker 2: as we know, and we want to wish everybody in
Speaker 2: La all the best. In fact, we're just there and uh,
Speaker 2: I think they're doing an incredible job out there as
Speaker 2: we know. So he's doing some stuff out there, so
Speaker 2: he won't be with us for a few weeks. But
Speaker 2: guess what, me and you are going to be here.
Speaker 2: We're gonna hold the ship down.
Speaker 1: Aren't we gotta hold it now?
Speaker 2: Feeling we'll hold it down for a partner. But he's
Speaker 2: going to be listening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Batman doing bad Man doing Batman things right now.
Speaker 2: That's why he's Batman.
Speaker 1: That's why he's Batman Man, so Moreshawn.
Speaker 2: As you know, with with our partner not being here
Speaker 2: this week, Gavin, we wanted to not not do an episode,
Speaker 2: but this week's super Bowl week. Obviously you've been in
Speaker 2: the super Bowl twice. It's a huge week and for
Speaker 2: the fans to kind of hear more about it. We
Speaker 2: want to make sure this show goes on this week
Speaker 2: to talk about a lot of super Bowl stuff as well.
Speaker 2: So we're excited about getting some stories today and some
Speaker 2: things that you know, you and I have been through together.
Speaker 2: I do think I've lost a few years off my
Speaker 2: life with your Super super Bowl story. We can talk
Speaker 2: about later back in Arizona, but before we get to
Speaker 2: that stuff today, I was with you yesterday and I
Speaker 2: got to be honestly, I was really proud of you
Speaker 2: because I come in and it's your first movie premier
Speaker 2: about to do. So take me through your mindset yesterday
Speaker 2: as you're kind of leading up to the premiere, and
Speaker 2: how was your first premiere?
Speaker 1: To be honest, it was it was solid, bron I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna hold you. I had a hell of fun.
Speaker 1: I did have hell of fun, but the highlight to
Speaker 1: movie was a yeah. I mean I got to walk
Speaker 1: the brother with my grandmother and my and my mama,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean to see them, you know, I
Speaker 1: mean get dolled up and ship and throw that shit on.
Speaker 1: That was That was probably the highlight of my my
Speaker 1: fucking night yesterday.
Speaker 2: How would you compare that to the super Bowl week
Speaker 2: with your mom and grandma coming to the games.
Speaker 1: It's so look, I wanted to know that, right, So
Speaker 1: I asked my mama. I'm like, Mama, real, talk like this,
Speaker 1: this this type of ship like this or the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: And my Mama answered that shit quick, hell look quick,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, super Bowl for shure. It was okay, okay,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I never seen my
Speaker 1: mama get dressed up like that to go to the
Speaker 1: super Bowl. You know, she come comfortable in the motherfucker,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, with her mama Lyn's jersey
Speaker 1: on rocket and doing her ship. But to see her
Speaker 1: with her dress on, with her makeup done, had her
Speaker 1: hair pinned up, had on her little boots and ship, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, and then my grandma too, Like my grandma
Speaker 1: put that shit on too. And I'm like, okay, this
Speaker 1: was this was big because you I'll never see them
Speaker 1: with makeup and ship on. So yeah, I mean to
Speaker 1: do that, but to have them experience that that ship
Speaker 1: was big and then you know, the whole cast because
Speaker 1: it's probably one of the first time that I ever
Speaker 1: just like had to submerge myself into the into the
Speaker 1: whole environment and just like doing the acting type ship.
Speaker 1: So I got to meet a lot of the where
Speaker 1: I don't want to say meet, I got to I
Speaker 1: got to build with a lot of the actors. So
Speaker 1: you know, I mean seeing them in they element, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, do their thing because that's what
Speaker 1: they do. So you know, I just watching that ship
Speaker 1: more so like damn it's crazy, but just taking notes
Speaker 1: on it.
Speaker 2: So how was your Did you have anxiety like you
Speaker 2: did before a big game or is it when you're
Speaker 2: when you're walking the red carpet into the movie when
Speaker 2: everyone hasn't seen it. Do you have any anxiety built
Speaker 2: up like you did for an NFL game?
Speaker 1: Nah, I don't know. No, Yeah, it's too too too
Speaker 1: two completely different feelings. Well for me, but while I'm
Speaker 1: doing it, while I'm actually doing it, then I kind
Speaker 1: of get that feeling as if I'm going out there
Speaker 1: to play. But you know, what I mean, because I
Speaker 1: don't watch playback and you know, for me to sit
Speaker 1: down there for that long to watch that movie, I mean,
Speaker 1: that shit is kind of hard too.
Speaker 2: So what I mean, it was really cool to see
Speaker 2: you in that element in terms of transitioning from a
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame NFL career to now this, which is
Speaker 2: not normal. People don't normally do this. This isn't the norm,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And to see you in
Speaker 2: that element and with your mom and grandma walking the
Speaker 2: red carpet and going down it was really cool.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: So it's a really proud moment for me. And that's
Speaker 2: why I want to show up yesterday and be there
Speaker 2: to the day the kind of witness it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you because you surprised the fuck out of me.
Speaker 2: Well I wanted to be there.
Speaker 1: Are you surprised the fuck out of me? And it's
Speaker 1: crazy because as you're saying that, because I told to it,
Speaker 1: uh to it a god like, Hey, yeah, man, I'm
Speaker 1: a uh my agent, I mean my agent, I'm a
Speaker 1: highlighting ma I'm gonna introduce you to him as ship
Speaker 1: I was talking about, you know what I mean from
Speaker 1: the entertainment son, when you popped up and I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's my agent. They're like, oh yeah, so cool. Can
Speaker 1: we meet them? I'm like, nah, this ain't the right goddamn.
Speaker 1: How many agents do you have?
Speaker 2: What's funny? Key was like, Doug, I want to talk
Speaker 2: to you about a rush movie with Marshan. We can
Speaker 2: make a Rush Hour movie slash like the the the
Speaker 2: Danny Glover movies and the movie. And I said, I said,
Speaker 2: I wait a minute, I'm not the entertainment agent. I
Speaker 2: go to the NFL agent and he's like, oh my bad.
Speaker 1: But they know you could get ship done, so that's
Speaker 1: why they was fucking with you like that, like yeah,
Speaker 1: let's let's get this ship done. We need to lung
Speaker 1: and chain and command well.
Speaker 2: And the cool thing for you, more Seawan, is that
Speaker 2: you were in Bottoms and you played a cool character
Speaker 2: and this is a totally different character in Love Hurts
Speaker 2: and I'm excited for your next role that's gonna be
Speaker 2: coming out some point soon too. So you're hitting all
Speaker 2: the different genres and hitting all the different character and
Speaker 2: it's really really cool to see.
Speaker 1: Me hold on fresh bro before we before we get
Speaker 1: off that right. So while we were shopping right, tell
Speaker 1: my mom my grandma shopping like yeah, hell yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to get them some nice dresses and shit, get
Speaker 1: all the ship right. So as we're in there, uh,
Speaker 1: I see these three you know what I mean, these
Speaker 1: three little ladies, you feel me? They kind of just
Speaker 1: hanging out in the little area or whatever they got, like,
Speaker 1: you know, a seating area. So I'm I see them
Speaker 1: and I'm like, damn. They looked like they was fit
Speaker 1: to make a move, like, you know, can I get
Speaker 1: a picture type shit? So I'm like all right, so
Speaker 1: I'm just preparing myself. Man, the three ladies come from
Speaker 1: around the little mannequin. It was like, excuse me. I
Speaker 1: know this is really random, but uh are you mister
Speaker 1: G from Bottoms? And I'm like, oh shit. It caught
Speaker 1: me so fucking off guard. Bro, I didn't know how
Speaker 1: to respond to the little lady got huh she said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I knew it was random, but are you mister G.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, hell yeah, I'm like how you know that?
Speaker 1: I all know I loved you and Bottoms Wool And
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm sorry. I'm like, you fuck me up
Speaker 1: because I'm thinking you finna come over here and tell
Speaker 1: me something about some football shit. She's like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I don't you play football. And I'm like, nah, Now
Speaker 1: I'm really fucking like damn, because I was you know,
Speaker 1: I was throwed off. I wasn't expecting the little ladies to,
Speaker 1: i mean, come in and speak to me, but especially
Speaker 1: for you know what i mean, being in a movie.
Speaker 1: So I go to the cash register and I'm trying
Speaker 1: to check out and my mama looking, you know, behind me,
Speaker 1: she looking down and I just see her shaking her
Speaker 1: head like don't do that. So as I turn around
Speaker 1: and it said, you know, it's a dude. He on
Speaker 1: the ground like tying is his his kids shoot And
Speaker 1: so when he popped up, I'm like, man, what the
Speaker 1: fuck is you? And when I it's the fucking producer
Speaker 1: from the movie.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: My mama like no, no, no, don't do that. Don't
Speaker 1: do that. She like, I've seen his phone, he had
Speaker 1: his camera ready on it. I'm like, Mama, that's the
Speaker 1: producer from the movie. I know blood. She like, oh,
Speaker 1: because I was goin to tell him, I wouldn't do
Speaker 1: that if I was you. But I'm like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: but that's kind of let me you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: The little lane that you know what I mean has
Speaker 1: been created or is moving that shit is is is
Speaker 1: you know what I mean in a sense like picking
Speaker 1: up and you feel me?
Speaker 3: Is?
Speaker 1: It's different for sure, Bro.
Speaker 2: That's a very cool thing. And like I said, that's
Speaker 2: a great story. And again, everybody, Friday, February seventh, Love
Speaker 2: hurts every theater globally. This guy is a star, massive movie.
Speaker 2: Come check him out. You will not not be disappointed.
Speaker 2: Love hurts. Let's go, baby, Baby.
Speaker 1: You are listening to k b il Lakes the.
Speaker 2: Smooth No, it was a hell of a movie, my son,
Speaker 2: it was a hell of a movie. Guys. We have
Speaker 2: a special guest joining us now is one of the
Speaker 2: best players in the NFL, not just defensively and offensively,
Speaker 2: but players in the NFL, A four time Pro Bowl
Speaker 2: player for the Las Vegas Raiders. A defensive end. Special
Speaker 2: day for me because it's actually one of my clients
Speaker 2: as well, the great mad Max Crosby Joe Mad Max?
Speaker 2: What's up baby?
Speaker 3: What up? You good?
Speaker 1: Hold on? What kind of what kind of brother was
Speaker 1: that that sounded too? Brothers? What kind of brother, hey brother?
Speaker 1: What kind of hey brother? What kind of brother. Was
Speaker 1: that man that was one of them? One a man?
Speaker 3: What do you mean? What do you mean?
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, is this a safe place for me
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm great. Bro's chilling. Absolutely, it's an honor.
Speaker 3: You got two legends of the building right here, Dougie
Speaker 3: Fresh and mar shawan amen.
Speaker 2: Okay, So before it begin, guys, it's curious. This week
Speaker 2: has been crazy, and want to I want to get
Speaker 2: into Luca trade real quick because this has been fascinating.
Speaker 2: So obviously it's a massive story. You'll probably remember we
Speaker 2: were when you heard it when it went down, Max,
Speaker 2: and so did more Sean. So I got a question
Speaker 2: for you guys, because I'm curious, Like as as people
Speaker 2: may not realize when Luca got traded, there's implications. So
Speaker 2: he gets traded from Dallas the Lakers. Everyone thinks, Okay,
Speaker 2: you're going from Dallas Lakers. This is great, you're playing
Speaker 2: with Lebron. But no number one, he's now not eligible
Speaker 2: for super Max extension. So in itself, he's going to
Speaker 2: lose one hundred and twenty five million.
Speaker 1: Dollars not eligible photo legs.
Speaker 2: Under the NBA rules, he will not be eligible now
Speaker 2: since he switched teams.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: So so he'll lose one hundred and twenty five million
Speaker 2: dollars by getting traded. Okay. The other thing that no
Speaker 2: one talks about, he's now going from zero percent state
Speaker 2: taxes okay to thirteen percent taxes. So Luca in itself
Speaker 2: is going to make a lose. I would say, roughly,
Speaker 2: you know, one hundred and fifty hundred and sixty million dollars.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Now, he's not an endorsement guys. We know he's not
Speaker 2: going to go out and do commercials and things like that.
Speaker 2: So I guess my question to you, Max is, as
Speaker 2: a player number one, how do you feel about this
Speaker 2: in terms of if you're Luca.
Speaker 3: If I'm if I'm Luca, I would be sick to
Speaker 3: my stomach thinking about how that went down. What he
Speaker 3: just did. He just took them to the finals. I
Speaker 3: don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Obviously there's
Speaker 3: got to be more to the story, but the fact
Speaker 3: that they didn't even have the like respect to have
Speaker 3: a conversation and just let him know, like listen, we're
Speaker 3: shopping you, we're trying to move on, we love you,
Speaker 3: thanks for very service, but we're gonna move on. They
Speaker 3: didn't even do that. They did it all behind the
Speaker 3: scenes and got rid of him after he literally just
Speaker 3: took him to a finals. He had five first team
Speaker 3: All nbas in a row. I think it just shows you, how,
Speaker 3: you know, it's a double standard when it comes to
Speaker 3: loyalty In professional sports, players get held to the highest
Speaker 3: standard when it comes to loyalty. If they leave, they're
Speaker 3: a diva, the this and that. But if a front
Speaker 3: office dumps a guy who's a twenty five year old
Speaker 3: generational superstar, they just get to sit back and not
Speaker 3: you know, people forget about it. So I think it's
Speaker 3: just crazy. I feel like they could have handled that
Speaker 3: way better. But we'll see how it turns out. But
Speaker 3: I think, I mean, they could have got so much
Speaker 3: more for Luca. I think I think the Mavericks made
Speaker 3: a massive mistake.
Speaker 2: But Max, you're you're pissed off. You're pissed off. He
Speaker 2: got straighted. But once Luca finds out he actually lost
Speaker 2: this money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, to answer your question, yeah, to the money part,
Speaker 3: I mean, you got to be sick to your stomach.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's literally was eligible for five for three
Speaker 3: forty five, like he's about to break the bank and
Speaker 3: now he's losing a lot of money. So I think
Speaker 3: it's just gonna put an extra chip on his shoulder.
Speaker 3: He's gonna he's gonna be on a war path. I
Speaker 3: have no doubt in my.
Speaker 2: Mind, Marshawn, how would you feel about that?
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to get over five tree forty five?
Speaker 2: Well, that's what he would have gotten if he stayed
Speaker 2: in Dallas. Now he can't get that much. But it's interesting, Marshawn.
Speaker 2: I've been I've been through a trade with you, and
Speaker 2: I got you traded, uh from Buffalo to Seattle. The
Speaker 2: second question, Max is how pissed are you at me
Speaker 2: as the agent? If you're if you don't know you're
Speaker 2: getting traded, and you're getting traded and you lose one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million bucks? Are you looking at me
Speaker 2: sideways like Doug? What the fuck?
Speaker 3: Fuck? Yes? What I'm fucking I'm storming y'all's office? What
Speaker 3: if you coming? How do you not see that shit coming?
Speaker 3: I can't even believe they can I can't. I didn't
Speaker 3: even think they could do that shit, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. I can't believe that they kept it that
Speaker 3: quiet talking about those biggest superstars to all NBA. This
Speaker 3: never happened in NBA history, having two NBA guys getting
Speaker 3: traded for each other.
Speaker 1: So hold on them. Niggas didn't know that, they no.
Speaker 2: Idea that an idea, didn't know.
Speaker 3: It was completely between the GM and Rob the Lincoln
Speaker 3: for the Lakers.
Speaker 1: Nobody else that's one of them. Uh, let's sit down
Speaker 1: and have a.
Speaker 3: Cigar on meeting yep, one hundred percent, and.
Speaker 1: Then motherfucker's down probably had both of them, probably have
Speaker 1: one too many shots and was like trade them, the
Speaker 1: trade them then all right, I'm gonna call your bluff
Speaker 1: and the motherfucker probably just like shit.
Speaker 2: But Max, knowing that you're still pissed at me, like
Speaker 2: I don't care what you have to know, I'm the money,
Speaker 2: I'm losing, like I'm I'm You're you're not happy.
Speaker 3: I might never look at you the same. I don't
Speaker 3: think we might. We might not talk again.
Speaker 1: Hey, and you know why, Hey, And look, I agree
Speaker 1: with you because Doug, you just know random weird ass
Speaker 1: fucking ship so and you tapped in and you are
Speaker 1: one of the ones that probably would be sitting down
Speaker 1: having the cigar with the motherfuckers.
Speaker 2: Too, Yeah for you.
Speaker 1: But if it was a different agent, then I yeah,
Speaker 1: I might be able to say, all right, let them
Speaker 1: motherfucking get away, but you nah, but yeah, that just
Speaker 1: that just going to show you though, like, man, this
Speaker 1: motherfucking businesses is cut throat, and you like you were saying, like,
Speaker 1: don't nobody got nothing that I mean, nobody got an
Speaker 1: answer to that. And then there's more so like oh, man, nigga,
Speaker 1: eat my shiny ass toys, Like, don't tell me how
Speaker 1: to play with my toys. Nigga, he's my toys. I'm
Speaker 1: doing but they showing it. Can you say that two
Speaker 1: superstars and this nigga. Luca was up for three foties
Speaker 1: five and they just got Ridicus and then they sent
Speaker 1: them to So look, first thing, first, we gotta go
Speaker 1: talk to Gavin about these taxes in California. We gotta,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, figure out. We gotta figure that.
Speaker 2: Out off of Lucas stuff.
Speaker 1: Max.
Speaker 2: Obviously, your your main goal, I know, is to play
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Morshawn's been in two and that's your
Speaker 2: goal ultimately, like every NFL player is. For those people
Speaker 2: that don't understand Super Bowl we we know the game,
Speaker 2: but for Super Bowl Week, can you tell the listeners
Speaker 2: Max and more Sean what the week's like in the
Speaker 2: city where it's at. You were in Vegas last year
Speaker 2: with their Max and you're going into New Orleans this year.
Speaker 2: Tell me tell the listeners what the week is like,
Speaker 2: the entire week of stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, obviously Marshan could speak more to the
Speaker 3: experience as a player. You know. For me, obviously never
Speaker 3: been getting ready for a Super Bowl. But the week
Speaker 3: in Vegas was an absolute party. Basically from Monday to Monday,
Speaker 3: the whole city. You can't even drive your car. Like
Speaker 3: we had an event. We had to do a live
Speaker 3: show last year with ap for the podcast and we
Speaker 3: were stuck in such stuck traffic we had to jump
Speaker 3: out on the strip. This is the middle of the strip,
Speaker 3: jump out with my boys, and we ran across the
Speaker 3: damn strip to get to the casino so we would
Speaker 3: be late for our own show. You could not move, So, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a complete riot. I heard New Orleans is like
Speaker 3: that too, Like it's super compact. That's a good thing
Speaker 3: because you don't have to go as far. But Vegas
Speaker 3: a little more spread out, so yeah. I heard New
Speaker 3: Orleans about to be crazy and people are there on
Speaker 3: a Monday. I heard it's already jumping. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think for the listeners, they don't understand. They think
Speaker 2: they see the game Sunday, but there's parties and events
Speaker 2: and day parties, night parties from Monday through Sunday. Companies
Speaker 2: and events and gifting suites and media row and it's
Speaker 2: it's uh, it's unbelievable. Marshall. What's what's your best super
Speaker 2: Bowl store You've been out other than the game? Give
Speaker 2: me your best story, Marshall. And you've had at a
Speaker 2: Super Bowl New.
Speaker 1: York trying to get back to bed check before you
Speaker 1: get that goddamn one hundred thousand dollars fine from missing
Speaker 1: bed check. And I ran through that fucking tunnel. What's
Speaker 1: the tunnel from New York to Jersey. H the Lincoln Tunnel,
Speaker 1: But I had to run through that fucking tunnel to
Speaker 1: get back to uhit.
Speaker 2: A minute, You actually ran through the tunnel, man.
Speaker 1: The same one of the same situations. I had to
Speaker 1: get to that mother fucking room where they was going.
Speaker 1: You fear me I was gonna get here with one
Speaker 1: of them fins, bro, I'm calling secure. Hey, I'm on
Speaker 1: my way, bloodlet me. I got about like ten minutes
Speaker 1: to get back in that bitch, bro. I knew we
Speaker 1: was gonna make it in that whip, so I had
Speaker 1: to be feet get for a quick fast and I
Speaker 1: started running. That was That was. I told somebody, that
Speaker 1: was the the hardest that I ran that whole week,
Speaker 1: because I ain't I ain't do shitting the super Bowl
Speaker 1: square touchdown. But my longest run was probably like maybe
Speaker 1: fifteen fifteen yards or something. So that run from in
Speaker 1: that tunnel back to the room with the hardest. I
Speaker 1: went all for the week, but I was tired of him.
Speaker 1: And then I mean, you know, we didn't. We Didnet
Speaker 1: did this shit for many many moons. Man, nothing new
Speaker 1: under the old move. But we been doing this shit
Speaker 1: for a long ass time. To be super Bowl little,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But as soon as I
Speaker 1: started getting about to say the pleasure to play in them, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, they they started to become you know, a
Speaker 1: little you know what I mean, water down, because I'm like,
Speaker 1: now I'm a custom to playing in the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: and you know, I mean, you really you really be
Speaker 1: tucked off in a way.
Speaker 2: To where you can.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean enjoy it the way that you want to.
Speaker 1: So when you not, when you're not playing it, you
Speaker 1: just got all access to that ship. I mean it
Speaker 1: did becomes a long drawn out ass function like oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't had enough for this ship enough.
Speaker 2: Hey, well Max, Max, You're up for a really cool
Speaker 2: honor Walter Payton Man of Your Award on Thursday at
Speaker 2: NFL Honors and it congrats to you, by the way,
Speaker 2: congratulations And for the listeners out there, there's thirty two
Speaker 2: uh nominees from every team and then they announced the
Speaker 2: winner Thursday night. And the cool thing is our our
Speaker 2: family Snoop is going to be the host, which is
Speaker 2: going to be fun for you. So take me through
Speaker 2: what that honor is for you and how that how
Speaker 2: that means, what that means for you to be a nominee,
Speaker 2: and how excited would you be to.
Speaker 3: Win that thing? Yeah, no, I would. You know, it's
Speaker 3: just honored to be mentioned in that conversation, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. Growing up you see you know the
Speaker 3: Walter Payman of the Year and how how big of
Speaker 3: an award that is and just being a part of that,
Speaker 3: you know, the legacy behind it, means everything to me,
Speaker 3: you know, for me, you know this, you know you
Speaker 3: guys have known me for years, but it truly nothing
Speaker 3: makes me happier than giving to others. And that's really
Speaker 3: what it's all about. It's not about getting the credit
Speaker 3: or getting the spotlight because I'm doing stuff in the community,
Speaker 3: Like I really do a lot of stuff behind the
Speaker 3: scenes that doesn't even get noticed or people know about.
Speaker 3: Because that's just truly who I am, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, and that that gives me joy as a
Speaker 3: human beings. So to be honored and recognized for it,
Speaker 3: it's an honor, you know, just being It's it's the
Speaker 3: National Football League, the biggest, most probably the greatest association
Speaker 3: in the on the planet, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: You got some of the most powerful respected people in
Speaker 3: the world, and you got you know, ownership, and people
Speaker 3: like Dad nominate me for this award. It's humbling, to
Speaker 3: say the least, but yeah, I'm excited. You know, we'll
Speaker 3: see what happens, regardless if I win it or not.
Speaker 3: Just being a part of it, it's a big deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a huge honor. It's the biggest honor of
Speaker 2: any player can get. Is getting that nominee, and like
Speaker 2: I said, good luck to you on Thursday. Max. I
Speaker 2: know you're a competitor, and I know you are pissed
Speaker 2: off at the fucking moon that you're not in the
Speaker 2: super Bowl. So the question for you is will you
Speaker 2: watch the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I watched every Super Bowl. I don't
Speaker 3: know if I think you know this, Doug, but I
Speaker 3: told you, like since I was a rookie, like, I'm
Speaker 3: not going to the super Bowl unless I'm in it,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I've stood to my word.
Speaker 3: Last year was the first time I had to go
Speaker 3: because I had to be on the field for the
Speaker 3: Walter Payton deal. But I literally I left the field
Speaker 3: and went straight out of Allegiance Stadium and went to
Speaker 3: the cigar lines. I went to eight lounges. So, my god,
Speaker 3: I need to spend one minute watching that game. I
Speaker 3: had to do an obligation. I think it's a Marriott suite.
Speaker 3: They're like, you got to come up here. It'll be
Speaker 3: ten minutes.
Speaker 1: And it was.
Speaker 3: They're paying me some ridiculous amount just to come and
Speaker 3: shake some man's kissing babies. I'm like, fuck it, We're
Speaker 3: going up there real quick. I went up the elevator
Speaker 3: boom and I went straight out of Allegiance Stadium and that
Speaker 3: was it, you know what I mean. So until I'm
Speaker 3: in the super Bowl, that's when I'll watch the super
Speaker 3: Bowl and be a part of that. Like I want
Speaker 3: to be the one in the in the heat. But
Speaker 3: I was with my people chilling.
Speaker 1: Hey, you know what, I think that's the thing though,
Speaker 1: what you mean. I think what you just said, like
Speaker 1: not going to the super Bowl unless I'm playing in it,
Speaker 1: especially while you're playing, because that that was the same shit.
Speaker 1: I'll book up until Sunday. If I can get out
Speaker 1: Saturday night, I'll get out Saturday night. If not, Sunday morning,
Speaker 1: I'm on a flight and out of that. Yeah, I'm gone, bro.
Speaker 1: So I think that's like a thing though, So so
Speaker 1: when you do playing it, because I ain't gonna lie man,
Speaker 1: I if it's anything I would say about it, it's
Speaker 1: like the ceremony when we did win, and uh, what's
Speaker 1: it called in New York? Like I was in the
Speaker 1: locker room when all the shit had popped off, the
Speaker 1: you know, the confetti, the trophy, this that and all
Speaker 1: that shit. So when I come out, you know, I
Speaker 1: had went go grab moms and you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: the rest of my family, all the confetti is down
Speaker 1: and ship day up on the stage doing all the shit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, had I had, I ye know what I mean,
Speaker 1: knew better. I maybe would her, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: try to see what that shit was all about. Because
Speaker 1: then I'm like, oh, you know what, fuck it. I'll
Speaker 1: just keep that ship next year.
Speaker 2: And there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: The situation that we have so.
Speaker 2: Well, Max was funny back to back years. This is
Speaker 2: literally the date is almost an anniversary. He wins the
Speaker 2: super Bowl in New York against Denver, comes off the field,
Speaker 2: no joke. I go get him a hug and say, hey,
Speaker 2: great with He's like, man, where's my money? I said,
Speaker 2: what do you mean? Because we're going through contract stuff.
Speaker 2: He's like, where's my fucking money? Go talk to the
Speaker 2: GM right now about my money? I said, more Shaan.
Speaker 2: The game ended thirty minutes ago. He's like, I don't care,
Speaker 2: go talk to Schneiner about getting me my new deal.
Speaker 2: And he was dead serious. I'm like, bro, I'm like,
Speaker 2: you got to give me a day. So anyways, that
Speaker 2: was that day. A year later, no joke, is when
Speaker 2: we're in Arizona. What he didn't get the ball? So
Speaker 2: I'm waiting from outside the locker room. This time, it
Speaker 2: wasn't about where's my money? It was like, what the
Speaker 2: hell just happened? And that's when he gets in the
Speaker 2: car with me and Gavin and we roll out of
Speaker 2: there with the bottle of Hennessy and some other things,
Speaker 2: Uh to go meet Snoop.
Speaker 3: But those were.
Speaker 2: Back to back years as far as his mindset right
Speaker 2: after the game, you know what I mean. So that
Speaker 2: was pretty fun.
Speaker 3: You're you're one of You're one of one, my son,
Speaker 3: I'll say, yeah, you're a special individ.
Speaker 1: Hey, look, we're gonna we're gonna spare you, bro, because
Speaker 1: we know you got to keep your show going and
Speaker 1: you being a good host and ship. So we gonna
Speaker 1: let you cook, just keep cooking, and then we're gonna
Speaker 1: get into it because I ain't gonna let you get
Speaker 1: up out of here without you know, I mean, we
Speaker 1: gotta show a little peace from love. Bro.
Speaker 2: Well, Matt, Max, who do you root for? Then you
Speaker 2: root for the Eagles, you root for the chiefs like
Speaker 2: you can't stand the chiefs. That would imagine in your division.
Speaker 3: I'm not rooted for shit. At the end of the day,
Speaker 3: I hate the Chiefs. Obviously they're in the division. I
Speaker 3: think Philly's gonna win, I truly do. I think Saquan
Speaker 3: is gonna do the Super Bowl MVP. But I don't
Speaker 3: root for anybody, you know. It's talking about like the
Speaker 3: super Bowl thing, like not going to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Like imagine Kobe going and watching fucking somebody else watching
Speaker 3: the Pistons play another team in the finals, Like the
Speaker 3: fuck I would never do it, you know what I mean. So,
Speaker 3: like I'm not rooting for shit, and so like I
Speaker 3: want to be in that as a competitor, Like that's
Speaker 3: all I think about is winning. I gotta watch these
Speaker 3: other guys rust the quarterback when I should be fucking
Speaker 3: on the field putting on the show. Like that's that's
Speaker 3: what I look at it, you know, as it has
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna be watching, of course, but I don't root.
Speaker 3: I don't root for either one, you know what.
Speaker 2: But for both of you guys, it's curious my question
Speaker 2: for both of you guys, watching that game is as
Speaker 2: hard as it is to watch, does it also fuel
Speaker 2: you like no other in terms of going God damn it.
Speaker 2: I have to get here next year because I got
Speaker 2: I bet. Watching the game and seeing the whole day
Speaker 2: of TV and all the stuff building up to it,
Speaker 2: it's got to piss you off even more not playing it.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I want to be in it. Like I
Speaker 3: know Mars Marshon had the opportunity twice to be in
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl. Like I've been in one playoff game
Speaker 3: in six years. Like I watch these playoffs and the
Speaker 3: fucking every year it gets harder and harder, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. Like that's all I want to do.
Speaker 3: Like I've done cool individually, I've had success and Pro
Speaker 3: Bowls and All Pros. All that stuff is cool, But
Speaker 3: like I want to be winning Super Bowls and being
Speaker 3: in the biggest games.
Speaker 1: No doubt, I tell you, there's a big dog. Consider
Speaker 1: that I'm being on the shit will Pop saying you
Speaker 1: win some, you lose some, but you live, you live
Speaker 1: to find another day. And being being on the both
Speaker 1: sides winning they losing one. Like realistically, blurr. It ain't
Speaker 1: no feeling like it. It ain't no feeling like it.
Speaker 1: We were just talking before you came on here about
Speaker 1: uh and my mama is the one that put it
Speaker 1: in perspective. Uh, because we just did the movie premiere
Speaker 1: for Love Hurt, And after the movie I went and
Speaker 1: asked my mom. I'm like, hey, mama, because you walk
Speaker 1: the red carpet and did the whole ship. So I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: what you think was more? You know, I mean more?
Speaker 1: What was more excited for you when going to the
Speaker 1: super Bowl and doing that ship or walking this red
Speaker 1: carpet to see me on the on the big screen ship.
Speaker 1: My mama said it with no fucking hesitation at all.
Speaker 1: Nigga winning the super Bowl? Yeah, come on, winning the
Speaker 1: super Bowl? What what? What else on me? I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: there you go. Put that ship in perspective quick. It
Speaker 1: wasn't even no thought about it. That's where I'm like,
Speaker 1: damn did I I mean, because I don't want to
Speaker 1: say a last line about it, but it's like, all right,
Speaker 1: I expect that, like we play this fort, like we
Speaker 1: put in the hours, you know what I mean. Motherfuckers
Speaker 1: know that they you know what I mean, dogs got
Speaker 1: that ship, So I expect. I expected, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. It's a matter of time, but I expected.
Speaker 1: And now what I want to get into is you
Speaker 1: got you know. I mean one of them dudes over
Speaker 1: there with you now who I know can set a
Speaker 1: foundation and from what I believe, like, you're gonna be
Speaker 1: the centerpiece to that. You're gonna be the building blocks
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be this.
Speaker 2: And you're talking about Pete Carroll right more? Shall I
Speaker 2: talk about Pete Carroll?
Speaker 1: Yeah, You're gonna be the You're gonna be the centerpiece
Speaker 1: and the foundation to the building blocks that that motherfucker
Speaker 1: want to you know what I mean put in to
Speaker 1: bring to do his ship. And you know what I
Speaker 1: mean just when we talk a little a couple of
Speaker 1: days ago, like like I love that shit. That was
Speaker 1: probably the most important thing you could have said. And
Speaker 1: once he understands that, he gonna ride the ship out
Speaker 1: of your mindset and he's gonna hammer it into every
Speaker 1: individual that come into that motherfucker office, and there's gonna
Speaker 1: be no way in the world that y'all shouldn't be
Speaker 1: able to build what exactly it is that you see
Speaker 1: for the writers to be brother for gonna take your
Speaker 1: mindset and he gonna make motherfuckers adapted to it. And
Speaker 1: I believe that there's gonna be some saucy shit because
Speaker 1: you're bump head with this all the time, Like because
Speaker 1: he wanted he wanted me to be that guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, nah, nigga, ain't me You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I when it's time to go to work
Speaker 1: ni again, then you know what's happening. But before that, I'm.
Speaker 2: Gonna be tired.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 1: I'll be trying to save all my energy. So you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, We're gonna have to figure something
Speaker 1: else out, but we will bump here. He is but
Speaker 1: another fuck that I've seen to have that type of
Speaker 1: mindset and that type of energy that you've got. He
Speaker 1: build with that shit, He's gonna be right there. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if he come and lined up next
Speaker 1: to you on your get off just to see if
Speaker 1: he could beat you.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I love that.
Speaker 2: So Max, how's the vibe there? How's it been? I
Speaker 2: know he's just got hired and there's no practice stuff.
Speaker 2: But how how excited are you to have Pete there?
Speaker 2: Of what you've heard about him from me and Marshaun
Speaker 2: and watching him. How excited are you guys right now
Speaker 2: in that building?
Speaker 3: Yeah? You know, we have a good amount of guys
Speaker 3: here right now, just working out and and starting to
Speaker 3: get back in the groove of things. You know, I've
Speaker 3: been here. You know, I started my off season early
Speaker 3: because you know, my injury you know, was probably with
Speaker 3: four weeks left in the season. So I've been here.
Speaker 3: So just seeing kind of the transition from you know,
Speaker 3: obviously with Ap getting fired to who's going to be
Speaker 3: the next head coach? Is gonna be this guy's and
Speaker 3: be that guy? Like it's just been kind of like
Speaker 3: quiet and weird a little bit, But once Pete got
Speaker 3: the job, he doesn't play around like it's funny. I
Speaker 3: was talking to I ran by the GM earlier, you know,
Speaker 3: where I was getting breakfast, and he was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: he's like, Pete's got like this big ass JBL speaker
Speaker 3: up there. He goes, Now everybody's got JBL speakers. He goes,
Speaker 3: It sounds like a frat house, you know, upstairs we're
Speaker 3: playing music. And he just said, the energy is just
Speaker 3: off the chart. So that's how Pete is. Obviously, having
Speaker 3: you guys who've known him for so long, it's kind
Speaker 3: of prepared me in that way. But it's it's kind
Speaker 3: of weird because he legitimately like just having a conversation
Speaker 3: with him, sitting down and talking to him. He reminds
Speaker 3: me of my college coach in so many ways it
Speaker 3: freaks me out, Like like literally my coach creating that
Speaker 3: Eastern Like this dude was no matter what, he would
Speaker 3: have a mini who probably be like he's like all energy,
Speaker 3: grab the ball and he's white Beard, the dude sixty
Speaker 3: some years old. It does not matter. He's competing no
Speaker 3: matter what. And you're like, you look at him, You're
Speaker 3: like brothers. He like, is he seriously? Is he like
Speaker 3: he knows He's like that every day. He doesn't matter
Speaker 3: what time it is. He is on a million all
Speaker 3: the time. So like just talking to him, I'm like
Speaker 3: this is this feels right? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like that's the first time I had I'm like, this
Speaker 3: feels like what is supposed to feel like.
Speaker 2: When he got hired, you know, as Marshan knows, he
Speaker 2: let Moreshean be and more. Shawn, after Marshawn had that conversation,
Speaker 2: quickly said no, no, no, I'm not doing this stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm doing being me and he'll let you be you
Speaker 2: as well too. And you've already your an iconic brand,
Speaker 2: which is which is awesome, So that's gonna be exciting. Hey,
Speaker 2: Matt question, No one really knows Max like Brady's involvement.
Speaker 2: Obviously the greatest quarter backt of all time. He's doing
Speaker 2: Fox stuff there. How involved is he with you? Do
Speaker 2: you know him well? With the Raiders? Is he involved?
Speaker 2: Is he there? Is he talking to you guys? What's
Speaker 2: his involvement with you guys from a team standpoint?
Speaker 3: Yeah, from what I've heard and obviously what I've seen, Like,
Speaker 3: I know he's he's definitely working behind the scenes, you know,
Speaker 3: putting things together. You know, Mark has that trust in him.
Speaker 3: He came here to be you know, get part ownership,
Speaker 3: to be involved and make an impact on this on
Speaker 3: this organization. So I know he's a competitor, so he's
Speaker 3: not just coming in as an investment opportunity. He wants
Speaker 3: to win. So that's what I love about him. You know,
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, he's a winner. Nobody's
Speaker 3: won more Super Bowls than Tom Brady. And I do
Speaker 3: have a great relationship with him. I've known him for
Speaker 3: the last few years. We text each other, you know,
Speaker 3: here and there and keeping touch and obviously you know,
Speaker 3: I work with Alex he does all my body work.
Speaker 3: You know, we work every single day three sixty five.
Speaker 3: So yeah, we've been connected for a while now. So
Speaker 3: it's it's exciting and seeing what they're doing, the moves
Speaker 3: they're making, like they're not sparing a dime, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, not trying to save money. There's made
Speaker 3: you know, brought in chip Kelly. You know, I've been
Speaker 3: a bucket offense I was a kid. So seeing chip
Speaker 3: Kelly after one and Natty get paid the way he
Speaker 3: got paid, Like, they're not messing around. They're trying to
Speaker 3: win now, and that's the most encouraging thing that that's
Speaker 3: what'spent like the most encouraging things so far. Like they're
Speaker 3: not playing around, They're they're making moves now, they're being
Speaker 3: aggressive and looking forward to seeing how how the rest
Speaker 3: of that plays out.
Speaker 2: So, guys, put your GM hats on, since I know
Speaker 2: you both know football, put your GM hat on. Do
Speaker 2: you draft a rookie quarterback in this draft or do
Speaker 2: you take someone in free agency? Do you bring Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers back for one year or do you draft one
Speaker 2: of these young guys? What do you guys?
Speaker 1: Do?
Speaker 3: I think you get a vet you bring in a
Speaker 3: vet who's done it before. And you also draft a guy.
Speaker 3: If you like a guy enough in the draft to
Speaker 3: take him high, you do that as well, so you
Speaker 3: kind of get you know, you get a bridge guy
Speaker 3: and then develop a young guy behind him. You see
Speaker 3: my homes. You know, I had to sit a year.
Speaker 3: It's probably the best thing, the best thing ever happened.
Speaker 3: You know. You see Aaron Rodgers, you see Jordan Love.
Speaker 3: Those guys sat for years and then boom they once
Speaker 3: they were stepped into that role, they're ready to rock.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I feel like, you know, if I was
Speaker 3: a GM, that's what I would do. But we'll see.
Speaker 3: You know, that's that's why they got those titles. Not me.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm here to dominate and and and wreck
Speaker 3: the game. But trust me, I know it matters. I
Speaker 3: know it matters what they gotta do.
Speaker 1: Even your involvement in that them. Hearing you say that, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean having that conversation with him, because you got
Speaker 1: to remember when it was weird when I'm sitting there
Speaker 1: listening to Pete talk at that uh, at that pressure,
Speaker 1: that motherfucker talking about, Well I ain't I ain't coming
Speaker 1: here to rebuild. I came in here to win right now.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I came in here to win right now.
Speaker 1: And the thing is it is weird because I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, seeing this old ass up there and talk
Speaker 1: that shit like like, damn, bro, you still like you
Speaker 1: still on that ship, like you always on this hype
Speaker 1: like to go there. And the thing is he really
Speaker 1: he really serious about that shit. So I mean, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, I could see that that happening.
Speaker 1: And I mean I'm not too you know, privy to
Speaker 1: the conversations that he having behind closed doors, but I
Speaker 1: know he he can do some shit with with Russ
Speaker 1: that he's able to bring shit out of him. Like
Speaker 1: I just I just witnessed it. And it's almost like,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, until you know whatever the situation
Speaker 1: was that they had going on up in Seattle, But
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, with time, you know, time,
Speaker 1: he'll let so if they have been talking, and the
Speaker 1: way that Russell ended the last season, he's the motherfucker
Speaker 1: that be able to get him over that hump or
Speaker 1: put him in position to make Yeah, I mean him
Speaker 1: one of those elite quarterbacks that he did for so
Speaker 1: many years before, Like I don't know that motherfucker the
Speaker 1: whispers to Russell Win it till me that kind of shit.
Speaker 1: He get him to play in ways and I.
Speaker 2: Agree, you get him, and you get a young guy
Speaker 2: come in as well. One hundred percent. And it's interesting.
Speaker 1: Max.
Speaker 2: We talk about this all the time. Unlike baseball and basketball,
Speaker 2: football you can turn the thing around in a year.
Speaker 2: I always say this to the owner, Mark Davis. I said,
Speaker 2: you have one of the most iconic brands in the world,
Speaker 2: not just football but world Yankees, Red Sox Man, you,
Speaker 2: et cetera. You got no state taxes, you got the
Speaker 2: best facility, you got the best stadium, and every player
Speaker 2: wants to be a Raider. You can turn this thing
Speaker 2: around and flip it very quickly in terms of what
Speaker 2: needs to be done. And as Marshaun said, your voice
Speaker 2: is very very well event because you are the cornerstone
Speaker 2: of that team. You are the franchise player of that team,
Speaker 2: and you are going to be winning Super Bowls. I
Speaker 2: guarantee you that. And you're never going to be traded
Speaker 2: without me knowing you're going to being traded, Otherwise you
Speaker 2: might get mad at me. How you doing. Hey, I
Speaker 2: got a question, Max, And this is significant and it's
Speaker 2: very it's very real to me, and and and it's
Speaker 2: really cool. You know, you're coming up on five years
Speaker 2: of a really important date, okay, your sobriety, And and
Speaker 2: for people don't know, I believe it's on March twelfth.
Speaker 2: I believe Max March eleven, March eleventh is your five
Speaker 2: year anniversary of sobriety, which is fucking congrats, dude, very okay,
Speaker 2: can you let can you let people know? Because I
Speaker 2: know it's open, you've been open to it. How how
Speaker 2: dark you were five years ago? Uh this week, I
Speaker 2: should say, leading up to you and sobriety, I mean
Speaker 2: you were in a dark spot.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, No, for sure, I was at my lowest
Speaker 3: of lows. I think that's everybody's got their own story,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Everyone's got their own demons
Speaker 3: and everyday battles. And for me, I think that was
Speaker 3: the one thing that was holding me back my whole life,
Speaker 3: from being the best version of myself. Just realistically, from
Speaker 3: the moment I took my first drink and smoked my
Speaker 3: first blunt and whatever that was, like I knew right away,
Speaker 3: like I was in love with it, and it runs
Speaker 3: in my family. I wasn't you know, I've seen it's
Speaker 3: i'n been on both sides of my family. I've seen
Speaker 3: it up close. And for me, it's like I knew
Speaker 3: from the day I started drinking. I love it way
Speaker 3: too much, you know what I mean. And it at
Speaker 3: first it was a lot of fun, but I knew
Speaker 3: I had no control. I just got worse and worse
Speaker 3: over time. So yeah, everybody's got their own shit, like
Speaker 3: whether you want to hide it or not, Everyone's got
Speaker 3: their own problems. And for me, like I always try
Speaker 3: to hold it in and like hide it from the
Speaker 3: world and act like everything was normal. And then my
Speaker 3: behavior was just getting worse and worse and worse. And
Speaker 3: I was doing crazier ship and getting in trouble and
Speaker 3: doing all types of ship. But it got to a
Speaker 3: point I hit my rock bottom, like I legitimately.
Speaker 1: Well you big ass dude, Bro, I don't know it. Man,
Speaker 1: to see your big ass running around loaded like your
Speaker 1: tripping bro was you was out there calling what's up?
Speaker 2: Looking at beat your ass a little.
Speaker 1: Out with this big ass man. This yella big man. Bro.
Speaker 1: We got a whoop out man yellow big No.
Speaker 3: I was I was out of control, Bro, I'd getting fights,
Speaker 3: crazy ass ship all the time like that just it
Speaker 3: was wild. But at the end of the day, it's
Speaker 3: the best thing that ever happened to me because I
Speaker 3: know I wouldn't be in this position right now. I
Speaker 3: wouldn't be able to get a second contract now going
Speaker 3: to be a third contract, wouldn't be able to be
Speaker 3: in this situation to provide for the people I provide
Speaker 3: for without cleaning that part of my life up, and
Speaker 3: to be the play you know that I am like
Speaker 3: I wasn't my first two years in the league. Like
Speaker 3: I was doing well, but I wasn't who I was,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Who I am now and
Speaker 3: where I'm going, Like if I didn't get that straight,
Speaker 3: I don't know where i'd be. I don't know if
Speaker 3: i'd be here.
Speaker 2: Was there one moment where you said, do you remember
Speaker 2: the moment you said I have to stop doing this?
Speaker 2: Do you remember that particular minute of the day.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent? I absolutely, I'll never forget it. Like
Speaker 3: you know, everybody's rock Bottom is different. I feel like
Speaker 3: that's everyone talks about rock Bottom and they think of
Speaker 3: like these crazy extremes, like even in college, like I
Speaker 3: had wrecked my car, got a duy. That wasn't enough,
Speaker 3: Like that wasn't my rock bottom I had been in,
Speaker 3: you know, woke up fucking having no idea where the
Speaker 3: hell I am type shit like blackout, wake up, where
Speaker 3: the fucking my at, trying to find my phone Like
Speaker 3: that wasn't rock bottom for me. It was waking up
Speaker 3: in my own house, in this my first house in Vegas,
Speaker 3: alone in my house, sweat like literally sweat through the
Speaker 3: sheets of my bed, like I felt I was like
Speaker 3: on a fucking bender for a while, I looked myself
Speaker 3: in the mirror and like I didn't even recognize myself.
Speaker 3: That was when I got on the phone. I called,
Speaker 3: obviously called CJ and you and Rachel and everybody that
Speaker 3: I've been closest with, like I need to get help,
Speaker 3: Like I'm literally I don't even fucking know what I'm doing.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, bro everybody, Like I was like, I need
Speaker 3: to go, and they kidnapped my ass legitimately took me
Speaker 3: out of my crib. I was literally, ironically like I
Speaker 3: was trying to go back to the fucking gas station
Speaker 3: like ten in the morning to go get some more
Speaker 3: booze and shit and black and miles ironically shit, and
Speaker 3: I was going to get some black and Miles and
Speaker 3: they literally pulled into my driveway and they're like, go
Speaker 3: back in the crib, and I'm like.
Speaker 2: What Seal Team six mission Marshawn Sealed Team Sex right now.
Speaker 3: Real Team six. And they were on my ass and
Speaker 3: they sat and it was it was our guy. And
Speaker 3: he sat there and just looked at me and just
Speaker 3: damn near twenty four hours, I'm like, I'm not going nowhere.
Speaker 2: But you you in the mirror, Maxo, you look back.
Speaker 2: You said, who is this dude?
Speaker 1: That's tough.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't. I didn't recognize. I legitimately was like
Speaker 3: I've never been I've never felt like this in my life.
Speaker 3: Like I've always been like I was a middle child.
Speaker 3: I always had to go above and beyond to prove myself.
Speaker 3: And I feel like that's why I fell in love
Speaker 3: with it so much originally because I could like be
Speaker 3: more outgoing and have more confidence and shit like that.
Speaker 3: But over time it just became my like I was
Speaker 3: just fucking wild, like I couldn't just it's not about
Speaker 3: the tenth drink that you have, it's about the first one.
Speaker 3: And every time I took one, I didn't know where
Speaker 3: the fuck that night he was gonna go. I would
Speaker 3: end up at a strip club at three in the morning.
Speaker 3: Have no idea that I even did it, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, like all time, you know, yeah, like
Speaker 3: that was what it was. And I'm open about it
Speaker 3: and real about it because that's who I was, And like,
Speaker 3: I'm most proud that I could say that, Like I
Speaker 3: truly I don't give a shit, Like I think it's
Speaker 3: hilarious people give me shit about how I used to
Speaker 3: be because it makes me even happier that, Like I'm
Speaker 3: in this position now because I knew how fucking wild
Speaker 3: I was. I was completely out of control. So it's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I was a fucking shit show. My big ass was
Speaker 3: run around wreaking.
Speaker 2: How well Marshawn, I'm gonna I'm gonna share this story, Marshawn,
Speaker 2: And I know Max knows he was there, but it
Speaker 2: was pretty cool. It was about a year ago. I'm
Speaker 2: at dinner with Mark Davis and Max and we're at
Speaker 2: this old school stake place in Vegas and ravin dinner,
Speaker 2: just us three and this this waitress cames up and
Speaker 2: she's like, Hey, you know, could you mind if I
Speaker 2: come by and say something. And she looks at Max
Speaker 2: and says, and she starts crying and says, you changed
Speaker 2: my entire family's family life. And we're like, what do
Speaker 2: you mean. She's like, when you went to rehab, my husband,
Speaker 2: who is the father of my two kids, thought he
Speaker 2: had his life under control and whatnot.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: It was they were about ready to get divorced. He
Speaker 2: was gonna do bad stuff. And because Max went to rehab,
Speaker 2: her husband went to rehab and he's been sober now
Speaker 2: I think four or five years as well. And she
Speaker 2: started breaking down and gave Max a hug and said,
Speaker 2: because of you, you saved my family and my kid's father,
Speaker 2: and for that, I can never be as great as
Speaker 2: I am I And she started balling and all she
Speaker 2: wanted was give Max a hug. Yeah, and Max, that
Speaker 2: was so inspirational to hear that. I imagine you get
Speaker 2: that a lot from everybody in life that knows your
Speaker 2: story about how you've overcome that and how you've changed
Speaker 2: other people's families as well from hearing your story.
Speaker 3: No, that's that's that's what it's all all about. Like,
Speaker 3: that's why I came, you know, I went public about
Speaker 3: it because I've seen guys like Darren Waller, you know,
Speaker 3: sharing his story and he's so open about it, you
Speaker 3: know at that time, and he's my teammate, and I'm like, damn,
Speaker 3: like that could be me, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: and the impact he was making, I'm like I could
Speaker 3: really go out and make an impact and help others,
Speaker 3: like in my whole life, like when you're drinking, you're
Speaker 3: in that addiction, like all you care about is yourself,
Speaker 3: Like and I know myself, like I got I got
Speaker 3: a big ass heart, Like I care about others more
Speaker 3: than anything, and for me, like this is a real
Speaker 3: chance or I can give back to others and make
Speaker 3: an impact on people's life. So yeah, that's you know
Speaker 3: that instance, Like I was completely not I was thrown
Speaker 3: off that like holy shit, like this is unbelievable. But
Speaker 3: like I get messages all the time, like I screenshot
Speaker 3: all of them, Like people message me out of nowhere
Speaker 3: saying like, you know, listen, I got sober because of you.
Speaker 3: I would fucking die to meet you. And you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, You like that that means more than
Speaker 3: you know, more to me than anything, because that's what
Speaker 3: it's about, Like you can be a great player, you
Speaker 3: can have a great career things like that, But like
Speaker 3: the icons in the game really impacted human beings. Like
Speaker 3: I look at guys like Kobe, like Kobe really just
Speaker 3: with his mentality to the game and what he did
Speaker 3: and how he approached it. Like people talk talk about
Speaker 3: Kobe to this day, and he hasn't been here for years.
Speaker 3: You know, obviously, God rest his soul and his daughter,
Speaker 3: But like that's the type of impact he made. He
Speaker 3: changed people's lives, and that's that's just as important as anything.
Speaker 3: Like obviously I care about my play and being an
Speaker 3: you know, Hall of Fame player and all that, but
Speaker 3: like being able to really make change that shit, that
Speaker 3: shit goes forever. That's where you build statues about and
Speaker 3: people talk about. Is really taking the time to go
Speaker 3: out and help and impact others. So yeah, stuff like
Speaker 3: that is it means the world for real.
Speaker 2: Well, and that's cool, and that's and that's how you
Speaker 2: want to be remembered.
Speaker 1: Max.
Speaker 2: You're obviously a great your great father to your daughter,
Speaker 2: and and those are the things that are legacy things
Speaker 2: that you want to be remembered that way. And you
Speaker 2: know you've always talked is cool and Marshaan, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: share something with you. He's always admired you more, Shawn
Speaker 2: in terms of how you've handled your career and you know,
Speaker 2: saved your money and invested in things and Max talk
Speaker 2: about your your strategy now is obviously you're an investor
Speaker 2: in in barre knuckle fighting. You and Dana White are
Speaker 2: very very close. That's a big mentor to you. Have
Speaker 2: you always been a UFC fan in regards to that
Speaker 2: that fight, that sport and fighting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, to to answer your first you know
Speaker 3: question you know about Marshawn. I know Doug. You know
Speaker 3: Doug is not not lying when he says that the
Speaker 3: reason I went with Peter as my financial advisor, I
Speaker 3: legitimately you guys CEJ. I went in there. I said,
Speaker 3: who does Marshawn have? Because when I was in college,
Speaker 3: I watched one of your interviews and you're talking about
Speaker 3: money and how you need to save it and you know,
Speaker 3: invest it in the right shit. And like I was
Speaker 3: sitting there as a kid, like I didn't know nothing
Speaker 3: about money. I didn't have a business degree, none of that.
Speaker 3: My family, I didn't grow up with money. So it's
Speaker 3: like I always learned from Afar and just watch videos,
Speaker 3: and you were literally the guy talking about it that
Speaker 3: inspired me. So I came in, I met with CJ.
Speaker 3: And ironically, Peter is the financial advisor that you guys,
Speaker 3: one of the financial guys you would, you know what
Speaker 3: it's called advice or push out to other people. So
Speaker 3: I'm like, whoever that is, I want him. Whoever Marshaun's got,
Speaker 3: I want that guy. And that's before I ever met you.
Speaker 3: And so I met with Peter. Immediately, I'm like, this
Speaker 3: is my guy. And then years later I get I
Speaker 3: get connected with Mitch, and me and Mitch are locked in,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Because I was seeing it,
Speaker 3: like I seen guys like Dana, like being in Vegas.
Speaker 3: I've spent time with Floyd and Dana. Like these guys
Speaker 3: are really building an empire, and like that's something I
Speaker 3: take a lot of pride in. And I see you
Speaker 3: in movies and you got ownership and hockey team and
Speaker 3: you got all this shit going on. I'm like, that's
Speaker 3: what I want to be, Like I want to want
Speaker 3: I'm want to really build something that's forever and build
Speaker 3: real wealth. And so that's why Fair and Nuncle you
Speaker 3: know Slate Milk with Dana, like Dana I met. I
Speaker 3: met these guys in Boston with Dana, and now you
Speaker 3: see Slate Milk and the damn Octagon now and they're
Speaker 3: promoting that everywhere and I got a piece of it.
Speaker 3: Me and Dana are in that together. So it's like
Speaker 3: there's so many things, you know, from real estate to
Speaker 3: I can go on and on, but like that investment
Speaker 3: side of me, that like hunger to just build something
Speaker 3: huge off the field, that came from looking up to
Speaker 3: guys like you and seeing you do the right way.
Speaker 3: And I'm not just saying that because we're here, but
Speaker 3: like I've never even told you this before, like we're
Speaker 3: boys like, but I've never told you that you before
Speaker 3: I even knew you, Like I truly wanted to build
Speaker 3: that empire. And you inspired me for sure.
Speaker 1: Hey man, you know what, I appreciate that, And yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean considering where I'm at in my life right
Speaker 1: now because everybody they they ask for advice and shit,
Speaker 1: right and then just listening to you list off everything
Speaker 1: that you got going on and the shit that you're
Speaker 1: interested in and the shit that you're doing, Like you said,
Speaker 1: you can go on and on for the real estatesments
Speaker 1: to the slate milk. Yeah, I mean the very nuckles.
Speaker 1: The biggest thing, br that I've actually learned through all
Speaker 1: of this shit. It's like, it's not even about the investing.
Speaker 1: It's not even about yeah, I mean having these things
Speaker 1: that you I mean, that you can reach out, you
Speaker 1: can see, that you can touch, that you can be
Speaker 1: involved with. It's more so about the knowledge and the information. Like,
Speaker 1: as long as you don't lose your niche to inform yourself,
Speaker 1: you gonna continue to grow. Once you get to a
Speaker 1: point and it's like, oh, I got it, I understand it,
Speaker 1: I know what's up. That's when shit started, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, go back down. But as long as you
Speaker 1: keep the mindset to I could get better. I can
Speaker 1: learn something new or let me see, let me try it,
Speaker 1: let me. As long as you keep that type of
Speaker 1: shit going on, you'll continue. You'll continue, You'll continue to grow, bro,
Speaker 1: and it it'll take you the lift that you didn't
Speaker 1: even know. And then listening to you when you talk
Speaker 1: about like you know what I mean about Peter and shit,
Speaker 1: I remember you with and Waller come to the house, bro. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm like and I'm thinking to myself, like, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I come to the house and
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I'm like, damn, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm not a what you call that, like a host
Speaker 1: and all that all you gotta put all this ship out.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I don't got nothing. All I had
Speaker 1: was some what's some Hennessy, But so man, I bro,
Speaker 1: I put Hella Hennessy on the table, like fuck it.
Speaker 1: I you know what I mean. I have a drink
Speaker 1: with my niggas like what's that and Peter like what
Speaker 1: you're doing? Bro, I'm like, well shit, you know, He's like, nah,
Speaker 1: that ain't that ain't the look like you gotta put
Speaker 1: that ship up.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, so when y'all come here, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to take the bottles of tuckle like nah, it's good, bro,
Speaker 1: you know what i mean. I'm like, okay, but that
Speaker 1: shit was opening for me, though, you feel what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and then I'm getting to then I get to meet
Speaker 1: charm But you know, I mean it was important for
Speaker 1: me because I'm like, Damn, this the younger generation, and
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like, if we have more interactions with the
Speaker 1: younger generation and the older generation that put shit in
Speaker 1: perspective like that. You don't have that disconnect that a
Speaker 1: lot of you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And Marshaun, the coolest thing you just said is this
Speaker 2: is it's interesting to say that when I signed you,
Speaker 2: when you're a twenty year old kid, I knew you
Speaker 2: had it in you to be the guy you are now.
Speaker 2: As far as a mentor the guys like Max I did,
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. I didn't know that as many
Speaker 2: years you took off my life, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: And the point with Max right now, Max, you look
Speaker 2: back six years ago, you probably didn't think you would
Speaker 2: be the guy that's going to be mentoring the same thing.
Speaker 2: This whole thing comes full circle.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: It's crazy what you guys have been through and the
Speaker 2: people around you in your corner, in your life is
Speaker 2: helping you guys the point where now you don't even
Speaker 2: know how many people are touching, whether it be financial literacy,
Speaker 2: whether it be the investing stuff, whether it be sobriety
Speaker 2: these things. Guys, your impact is massive, both of you guys.
Speaker 2: Platforms are so big and like what Kobe did Max
Speaker 2: before he passed, our rest and peace and all the
Speaker 2: other icons. You guys have the same ability to touch
Speaker 2: people in a way where most people have no concepts.
Speaker 2: So it's really cool to see what you guys are doing.
Speaker 2: And Max, I appreciate you sharing the story about Marshawn
Speaker 2: because that's real in regards to you looking up to
Speaker 2: him and seeing what he did. That's awesome.
Speaker 3: No, that's that's what it's all about at the end
Speaker 3: of the day. It's and Marshall, I hit it right
Speaker 3: on the head, like, as long as you are continuing
Speaker 3: to be curious and grow and build and take the
Speaker 3: next step forward and never get content, you're gonna have
Speaker 3: a chance to win. And that's It's the same thing
Speaker 3: with football, you know what I mean. If you're a player,
Speaker 3: you have a great year, you're a defensive Player of
Speaker 3: the year, your first team. Okay, now what's next? You know,
Speaker 3: just you go right back to the square one. You
Speaker 3: don't just get to start from last year. No, you
Speaker 3: got to start right from the bottom again and build
Speaker 3: that shit up. And that's what the great ones do,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? And I look at that
Speaker 3: through through business like shit, I never thought I'd be
Speaker 3: in a meeting with fucking Hunter Campbell and Dana White
Speaker 3: and Floyd May, Like I'm sitting there to say, I'm like, fuck,
Speaker 3: I feel like I don't belong in this motherfucker, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like, what's the fuck? I'm twenty
Speaker 3: and now, like you know, I feel a little bit
Speaker 3: more confident I'm sitting here with Connor McGregor and shit
Speaker 3: like that. I'm like, I'm like, damn, like I really
Speaker 3: belong in this room, you know what I mean. That's
Speaker 3: a whole different flip, but it's like I belong here.
Speaker 3: But now, okay, let me learn. Like I don't know
Speaker 3: nothing about the fight world, but I've spent time with
Speaker 3: Dana and those guys, and they've taught me so much
Speaker 3: and I'm still learning, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 3: like every aspect of my life. That's how I look
Speaker 3: at it, Like I want to fully maximize everything I
Speaker 3: do in my life, like I'm already twenty, Like I'm
Speaker 3: twenty seven years old, but life is so short, Like
Speaker 3: I want to get everything out of it and every
Speaker 3: experience that I want to do when I was a kid,
Speaker 3: Like I really am doing that, Like that's how I
Speaker 3: want to live my life. Like I look at shit
Speaker 3: like my basketball. It's something as simple as like the
Speaker 3: crib I'm building right now in Summerland, like the basketball
Speaker 3: hoop with the fucking mural and the jersey, and I
Speaker 3: want my ping pong say, and I want this, Like
Speaker 3: that's the shit I was thinking about when I was
Speaker 3: eight years old, Like I'm doing that, Like that's I'm
Speaker 3: not waiting around and thinking about. No, I'm gonna put
Speaker 3: the fucking work in. I'm gonna do what I gotta do,
Speaker 3: and like I'm gonna live my life the way I
Speaker 3: want to live my life. And in Marshall, you're the
Speaker 3: same fucking way. You're gonna walk in that business a
Speaker 3: black and mile and talk to your ship. But that's
Speaker 3: exactly what the fuck you are because it's real and
Speaker 3: that's who you are at the core. So I truly,
Speaker 3: you know, I remember being a rookie. People tell me,
Speaker 3: like you know, one of my coaches, like, man, you're
Speaker 3: gonna spend all your money on damn tattoos and you're
Speaker 3: cussing in the media. You can't be doing that. And
Speaker 3: like I literally walk into interviews now with a cigar
Speaker 3: with my shirt off and talking my shit and people
Speaker 3: pay me to do that. Now you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm authentic And that's that's the life's about, bro, It's
Speaker 3: full circle.
Speaker 1: It's because of what you did, all of that ship
Speaker 1: come back, like you know what I mean, because you
Speaker 1: your story, you know what I mean. But then I mean,
Speaker 1: you know everybody got a story. Then you also put
Speaker 1: in the work to solidify, like you know, I mean
Speaker 1: you you gave him a reason to pay attention to
Speaker 1: your story. Like it ain't just because you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, You I got tattools, I talked my ship
Speaker 1: and I smoke a cigar. How many motherfuckers we know
Speaker 1: do that? And then you go and and then you
Speaker 1: go and you give them a reason to say, oh,
Speaker 1: I see why you talk your ship, why you got
Speaker 1: that tools, and why he ain't here smoking a cigar
Speaker 1: because he's gonna go put the work in that ship?
Speaker 1: Is that ship is is uh infectious as well? Bruh?
Speaker 1: And I mean you know, like I'm like I learned.
Speaker 1: I try and learn from every every situation, trying to
Speaker 1: learn from uh every person that all the ship. So
Speaker 1: I mean as much as you, I mean, we talk
Speaker 1: about it like having y'all come to the house, like
Speaker 1: that ship is is eye opening to me because now
Speaker 1: I'm getting to look at it from you, I mean,
Speaker 1: for three four different different perspectives and to see how
Speaker 1: y'all see shipping. Okay, yeah, but I can learn from that.
Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, just as much as like
Speaker 1: you were saying about you helping, like that's that's that's
Speaker 1: my ship, you know what I mean, That's that's where
Speaker 1: all of this ship come from. I don't know how
Speaker 1: many uh Doug's clients done came through me, and he
Speaker 1: always talked about, you know, he only take three percent
Speaker 1: and all that other kind of agent bullshit he be running.
Speaker 1: But I'm like a lot of these clients ain't really yours.
Speaker 1: Br like I didn't be it on the phone joking
Speaker 1: plays like yeah, we need to come sign over here,
Speaker 1: and you know what I mean talking about. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta figure out I don't know how
Speaker 1: many costs he had you make, but we gotta find
Speaker 1: a way to get our back pay on you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, our fine fear.
Speaker 3: Se.
Speaker 2: Hey, but here's the deal, Marshaun. I remember back in
Speaker 2: the day he told me Max, he said, fresh, don't
Speaker 2: come at me crooked, And I never did and here's
Speaker 2: the deal. Max, We're gonna let you go. But I
Speaker 2: got to tell you something, Man, this has been really
Speaker 2: cool and I'm really praying that a year from now
Speaker 2: you're in the super Bowl. Okay in our backyard in
Speaker 2: the Bay Area. You're gonna get there. Your rock star
Speaker 2: in terms of what your story, where you came from,
Speaker 2: what you've done, how you've lived your life. Can't be
Speaker 2: more proud of you and your five year sobriety thing
Speaker 2: coming up. You're living life like you have no idea.
Speaker 2: And congrats to you, Max and everything you're doing. Man,
Speaker 2: the sky's limit for you as a person, as a player,
Speaker 2: and your role model. So many people, bro and really
Speaker 2: really excited if you join us today. I can't thank
Speaker 2: you enough, man, and we look forward to seeing you soon.
Speaker 3: Hey Man, No, for real, I appreciate every every minute
Speaker 3: we spend together. You know what I mean. I love
Speaker 3: you guys for real, like you we're in this ship forever.
Speaker 3: So I love all.
Speaker 1: Just bullet proof, my boy. Love is bullet prove.
Speaker 3: Amen.
Speaker 2: Now, Max, get back to work. You're ready for the
Speaker 2: next year super Bowl. I know you got to get
Speaker 2: back to therapy right now.
Speaker 3: Rehab time I'll see y'all. Yeah.
Speaker 2: H m
Speaker 3: Hm.