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Speaker 1: Please, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio living the

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Speaker 1: dream once again here on a fully loaded Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 1: This is Fox Sports Saturday, and we are broadcasting live

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Speaker 1: from the Fox Sports Radio studios. This is a long

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Speaker 1: time coming, folks, where two UCLA Bruins.

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Speaker 2: It is a pleasure, it is a privilege, It is

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Speaker 2: an honor to be sharing the studio with you, Steve.

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Speaker 1: Nickie, we are living large here, Nikki, We sure are.

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Speaker 1: We are living large. We've been sharing some stories before

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Speaker 1: we even got on the air today. I've been watching

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Speaker 1: you obviously, I've been listening to you all the time,

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Speaker 1: and now we finally get hooked up together. Nicki. Now

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Speaker 1: I was our boss here, Scott Shapiro. I was kidding

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Speaker 1: with him that Nicki is now the one hundred person

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Speaker 1: that I've co hosted a show with here on weekends.

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Speaker 1: They are Fox Sports rats. You know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: Let's make it a habit here, Niki. So how you

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Speaker 1: doing nick here? I mean, are you at that point

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Speaker 1: right now? It's sort of an awkward time with football

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Speaker 1: because you know, second week of the preseason, we have

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Speaker 1: another week of preseason, and then you have a bye week,

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Speaker 1: and then you finally get to the regular season. So

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Speaker 1: where is your mindset? I know we have weeks zero

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Speaker 1: for college football next year, Bro, where do you sit

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Speaker 2: St I was just going to say week zero for

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Speaker 2: like we've been being teased over and over and is

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Speaker 2: this a safe space? Steve? Can I be quite frank

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Speaker 2: with you, preseason football? I don't give a darn well.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's amazing to say that because obviously there

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Speaker 1: everything else. But one of the reasons I wanted to

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Speaker 1: ask you about preseason so we've seen this. We go

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Speaker 1: preseason games other than risking injuries of players? But I

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Speaker 2: Chargers quartering he's playing today.

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Speaker 1: He is playing in his first ever preseason game.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: His rookie season was the COVID year, so there was

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Speaker 1: no preseason. He has never played in a preseason game,

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Speaker 1: but he went to Jim Harbaugh and said, I want

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Speaker 1: handle this because the new school guys like Sean McVay,

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Speaker 2: Get out there, take some snaps. I think, all in all,

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Speaker 2: it's good to get right your underneath you before charging

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Speaker 2: I'm just curious, like, do we need full games right?

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Speaker 2: Well, well, here's the thing I worked. I worked for

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Speaker 2: So I was at UCLA during the gym more days.

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Speaker 2: But you were telling me a story hearkening back to

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Speaker 1: And you know, I always want to pull back the curtain.

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Speaker 1: We do have a schedule oft for the NBA. We're

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Speaker 1: our NBA Insider, The great Mark Medina is joining us

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Speaker 1: once again. So Mark, the schedules are out. So when

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Speaker 2: Can we do some light read Aeron?

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Speaker 1: It was exactly that, Nikki, the Clippers schedule, you know,

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Speaker 2: Got a little razzle dazzle there. No, you know what, Mark,

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Speaker 7: Right, yeah, they got a Christmas Day game and they

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Speaker 1: Well, one hundred percent with you on that one. Also,

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Speaker 1: But when you really look at this mark, you're talking

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Speaker 7: The troubling part about the answer to that question is

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Speaker 7: Now I think practic we speaking because of how much

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Speaker 2: It's a slippery slope. For sure, and a lot of

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's a good question, Niki, because I

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Speaker 7: They're all playoff teams, but I I don't really think

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Speaker 1: All right, So have I missed it? Or have the

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Speaker 7: Well, Rob Polinka spoke August second when Luka Doncic extended

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Speaker 7: I think you connect the dots here, Steve. They don't

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Speaker 1: light of the fact that we now recognize that this

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Speaker 1: is very much Luka Doncic's team.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Steve, I think that's a great question. I think

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Speaker 7: that knowing how the Lakers are, they would give Lebron

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Speaker 7: that farewell tour type of treatment because the Lakers are

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Speaker 7: about being the entertainment capital of the world in the NBA.

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Speaker 7: And secondly, I think that they can differentiate between the

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Speaker 7: farewell tour, the hoopla and the scenery, but the basketball

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Speaker 7: court itself is all about Luka Doncris. I think the

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Speaker 7: ironic part here, Steve, with Lebron is that when you're

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Speaker 7: looking at his role with Luca and for the most

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Speaker 7: part of his basketball career, he has done the right

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Speaker 7: things about being a team player, playing the right way

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Speaker 7: and all that. It's all the off the court things

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Speaker 7: and I don't mean, you know, gain in trouble, but

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Speaker 7: it's more about how he is with the front office,

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Speaker 7: how much pressure he's putting on the head coach. Those

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Speaker 7: are the things that have been really a bit of

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Speaker 7: a challenge. So I think what you outlined, frankly is

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Speaker 7: almost like the best case scenario for both sides. Then

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Speaker 7: for the Lakers, that they could do the Foo Plut

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Speaker 7: treatment for him. But on the court, it's all about

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Speaker 7: Luka Dacic being the guy and Lebron James being the

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Speaker 7: second guy. I think what's challenging here is Lebron might think,

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Speaker 7: because he still is playing at all star caliber level,

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Speaker 7: you know what, I don't want this to be my

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Speaker 7: final year. I want to keep playing after that. And

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Speaker 7: that's where the collision courts could eventually happen at the

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Speaker 7: end of next season, because next season is when he'll

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Speaker 7: become a free agent and.

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Speaker 2: Mark not enough has been made about the troll meter

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Speaker 2: Lebron hit by posting a picture in a gym in

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Speaker 2: front of a Clippers Yeah, that was That to me

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Speaker 2: was a direct shot at the Lakers organization because if

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Speaker 2: you know, if you know, within the walls of Purple

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Speaker 2: and Gold, they do not acknowledge the existence of the

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Speaker 2: team across town. So that to me was a direct

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Speaker 2: shot at the Lakers family, which was was very interesting,

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Speaker 2: But just I want to ask you about the league's

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Speaker 2: other generational superstar in Steph Curry. And one of my

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Speaker 2: biggest I guess grievances is watching Steph be super nova

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Speaker 2: and this Warriors team just not being able to ascend

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Speaker 2: with him.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: It feels like we're, you know, Steph games are just

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Speaker 2: wasted almost So what where do the Warriors go this season? Well?

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Speaker 7: I think that basically it's what do they do with

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Speaker 7: Jonathan Kamingo. They have literally not made any offseason move

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Speaker 7: this summer because that was the main domino to fall.

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Speaker 7: Can they retain Jonathan Kaminga had a decent enough number

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Speaker 7: that doesn't compromise their cat And it's been fascinating because

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Speaker 7: Jonathan Kaminga has not accepted the qualifying offer. He's tried

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Speaker 7: to find other partners, he just hasn't gotten any offer sheets.

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Speaker 7: And the Laker and the Warriors haven't found any signing

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Speaker 7: trade scenarios that they think makes sense. They're not interested

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Speaker 7: in what the Sacramento Kings have to offer. And so

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Speaker 7: I think what's fascinating with the Warriors and with Steph

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Speaker 7: Curry specifically, ever since the twenty twenty two NBA Championship run.

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Speaker 7: The two timeline approach hasn't happened. They've had to make

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Speaker 7: cost cutting moves that if it wasn't for second Apron,

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Speaker 7: they would retain those players like a Jordan Poole, like

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Speaker 7: Clay Thompson. They did make a move with Jimmy Butler

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Speaker 7: to make life easier for Steph Curry, to give them

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Speaker 7: a chance to compete for a title, But what it's

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Speaker 7: resulted in is that they're not bad enough to say

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Speaker 7: they're clearly wasting Steph's years they have to just start

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Speaker 7: over and rebuild. But they're just giving them that tease,

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Speaker 7: that sliver of hope, and then they wind up falling short.

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Speaker 7: I thought it was also telling this week when it

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Speaker 7: came to that with Steph Curry, as on one hand,

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Speaker 7: he expressed a lot of confidence in the front office

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Speaker 7: because of the moves they made last season, but he

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Speaker 7: made it clear we still need to make a few

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Speaker 7: more tweaks on our roster to have a chance to

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Speaker 7: contend for a championship. So if you read between the

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Speaker 7: lines there, he's comfortable enough not to ever say I

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Speaker 7: want out, this is over with, but clearly he's not

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Speaker 7: comfortable with status quo, and we saw that last year. Yes,

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Speaker 7: Jimmy Butler made life easier for Steph Curry made an

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Speaker 7: inciant impact in the regular season, but durability is always

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Speaker 7: a factor, and it's not just about Steph Curry and Draymond.

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Speaker 7: You have to have consistent and reliable role players, and

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Speaker 7: they just didn't have that last Susan.

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Speaker 1: People listening are like, damn, I had no idea that

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Speaker 1: was so much NBA news And there's always so much

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Speaker 1: NBA news. Mark great stuff as always, well, talk you

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Speaker 1: down the road. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 7: Appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 1: There you go, Mark Medina joining us our NBA insider.

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Speaker 1: Now let's find out what is trending. And she is

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Speaker 1: Donnie her Charger cap of course today, Manci Belanya, I

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Speaker 1: am let me ask you this. Okay, we got Chargers

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Speaker 1: rams coming up at so Far a little bit later

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Speaker 1: on today. Are you nervous about Justin Herbert demanding to

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Speaker 1: play in a preseason game, which, by the way, he

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Speaker 1: is never ever and this is his sixth year in

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Speaker 1: the league. Yeah, played in a preseason game.

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Speaker 8: No, I'm glad that he wants to get out there

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Speaker 8: and get the you know, gears rolling kind of like

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Speaker 8: Nigge said, I'm all for it, So I'm not worried

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Speaker 8: at all.

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Speaker 2: It was about damn time. It was just about damn time.

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Speaker 1: People say, how about his rookie year, that was the

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Speaker 1: year of the COVID. There, let's no preseason.

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Speaker 2: That's Harbaugh rolling off on him, you know, like how

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Speaker 2: we saw throughout the course of last season, like the

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Speaker 2: more like progressive their hugs and like, you know, slowly.

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Speaker 1: But here's the other thing, guys, his last game was

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Speaker 1: the worst game of his entire career, four inns in

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Speaker 1: that playoff. He he wants to get the he wants

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Speaker 1: to get on the field.

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Speaker 2: Course, big off, shake off a little bit.

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Speaker 1: You don't forget a game like that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well no, he's gonna tell you he forgot about it.

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Speaker 2: It's not that he really did, but he's gonna say that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he remembers every second game. Oh, I'm sure Harbu

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Speaker 1: has told him turn the page. Sure, page, turned the page.

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Speaker 1: But yes, when you're the guy that had that game

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Speaker 1: and you throw more interceptions in that game than you

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Speaker 1: did the entire.

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Speaker 8: Season, Yeah, yeah, it's hard to thank you, thank you

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Speaker 8: for bringing that back into my bunch.

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Speaker 1: You just want to get that taste out of my mouth.

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Speaker 2: It's a new thank you, thank you, see, I appreciate it. Anyway.

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Speaker 2: Moving on, NFL.

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Speaker 8: Preseason action continues forty nine Ers and Raiders right now.

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Speaker 8: Brock Parties started things off for San Francisco five of.

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Speaker 2: Seven sixty six yards.

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Speaker 8: Mac Jones is now in two of three for fourteen

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Speaker 8: yards and an interception already.

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Speaker 2: For the Raiders. Gino Smith started things off.

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Speaker 8: He is five to seven for forty four yards, and

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Speaker 8: so they're just getting started in the second quarter. Tied

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Speaker 8: at three apiece. Games that have wrapped up. Dolphins outscored

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Speaker 8: the Lines twenty four to seventeen. Packers with a twenty

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Speaker 8: three to nineteen win over the Colts. Patriots top the

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Speaker 8: Vikings twenty to twelve, and the Texans meet.

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Speaker 2: The Panthers twenty to three. The Browns and all their quarterbacks, well.

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Speaker 8: They defeated the Eagles today twenty two to thirteen. Dylan

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Speaker 8: Gabriel thirteen of eighteen, one hundred and forty three yards,

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Speaker 8: one interception. Here is Dylan Gabriel after the game. This

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Speaker 8: is a video currently circulating on social media.

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Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel.

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Speaker 3: You know there's entertainers in there's pendom and I totally

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Speaker 3: understand that. And my job is to compete, and that's

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Speaker 3: what I'm focused on doing. Of course, we're doing this

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Speaker 3: big game, but you know it's something that I'll get

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Speaker 3: used to and just want to be the best team

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Speaker 3: that I can and for an environment where we can

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Speaker 3: all go do our best work, that's.

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Speaker 1: All we want to do.

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Speaker 8: There's entertainers, wow, copeditors wow.

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Speaker 2: So you and in the range little function there? Does

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Speaker 2: you do what you want with that information? I just

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Speaker 2: want you guys to know, Twy said reference. We'll go

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Speaker 2: to Baseball Hour.

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Speaker 8: The Blue Jays are on top of the Rangers eight

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Speaker 8: to one, bottom of the fourth inning, Red Sox up

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Speaker 8: on the Marlins two zero, bottom of the second about

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Speaker 8: to start, and the Cubs have defeated the Pirates three

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Speaker 8: to one.

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Speaker 2: You guys didn't ask uh Mark Medina about Luca, did you?

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Speaker 8: Luca don't a little knee con confusion, But all the

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Speaker 8: reports are that he avoided major injury.

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Speaker 2: Even it was a scary moment.

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Speaker 8: One of his teammates fell into him as they were

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Speaker 8: backing up to play defense.

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Speaker 2: And I was telling Ian. It got so lucky. He

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Speaker 2: fell too.

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Speaker 8: Luca fell as well when the teammate fell into his

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Speaker 8: knee that if he would have tried to stand up.

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Speaker 2: And not fall, it would have been way worse.

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Speaker 8: But he fell and he kind of hobbled off to

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Speaker 8: the side and then didn't go back in the game.

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Speaker 8: But appairly he's staying with the team, Slovenia's national team,

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Speaker 8: so they don't think it's anything serious.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing I love more than the flurry of skinny

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Speaker 2: Luca right imagery.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if that body's going to hold up for

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Speaker 1: the entire season. If you are used to sort of

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Speaker 1: playing with carrying a physical self u road the course

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Speaker 1: of your career, and all of a sudden you're you're figuring.

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Speaker 8: It out, It's like you're Bambi Yep, yep, bamby, bamby right.

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Speaker 1: Now, Monzi, great stuff, Thanks so much for chiming with you.

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Speaker 1: A little bit later on, once again, we're coming to

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Speaker 1: the top of your screen. Are you a Luka Doncic fan? Nikki?

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Speaker 2: I was born and raised a Laker fan, worshiping at

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Speaker 2: the altar of Kobe, and I genuinely say this, watching

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Speaker 2: Luca in a purple and gold uniform, I am feeling

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Speaker 2: things as a Laker fan that I almost haven't felt

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Speaker 2: since the twenty ten Really Championship. I mean, Lebron is

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Speaker 2: stational and the run him and Ad have had together amazing,

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Speaker 2: and watching Lebron do what he does at his age

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Speaker 2: has just been remarkable. But I do think that he's

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Speaker 2: you know, he came here in the sunset of his

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Speaker 2: career right or here as in Los Angeles. So knowing

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Speaker 2: that we landed Luca, we the Lakers landed Luca with.

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Speaker 1: The biggest sists from the NBA.

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Speaker 2: Oh you're an NBA rigged guy.

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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, it benefits the league when the

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Speaker 1: Lakers are strong, when the Celtics are strong, when the

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Speaker 1: Knicks are strong. You need those teams to be relevant.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't mean you buy him a championship, but they have

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Speaker 1: to be relevant. Now, this predates you and me. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this goes all the way back to the Wilt Chamberlain

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Speaker 1: trade by the Philadelphia seventy six ers to Lakers back

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Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty eight. Yes, I'm old enough to remember that.

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Speaker 1: And so you know, Kareem was basically stolen from the

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee Bucks shack, you know, that little glimmer of window

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Speaker 1: as a free agent where the Lakers could sign him.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean that being said, though, the prodom

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Speaker 1: line for Lebron He's had seven years as a Laker.

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Speaker 1: In five of those years they either missed the playoffs

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Speaker 1: or eliminading in the first round. That's not exactly glowing.

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Speaker 1: He got a Bubble championship, and he made a miracle

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Speaker 1: run to the Western Conference finals a couple of years

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Speaker 1: ago where he got swept. And so yes, I agree

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Speaker 1: with you. The Luca dynamic is completely different. He's a

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Speaker 1: young player. His getting into physical shape shows his commitment

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Speaker 1: to the organization. This was the biggest story so far

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Speaker 1: this offseason, getting that contract extension for Luca. You know,

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Speaker 1: at this point, Like if I'm Luca, like I said

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Speaker 1: when he signed that extension, I sit down with Lebron

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Speaker 1: out of respect and I say, all right, Lebron, you

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Speaker 1: know you have one year here. This is what I

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Speaker 1: need from you. Lebron has never answered to anybody in

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Speaker 1: his entire career since he was a freshman in high school.

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Speaker 1: So he is going to have to answer to Luca

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Speaker 1: because Luca knows I know what I need from you.

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Speaker 1: Can you give me that? And that's going to be

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Speaker 1: the overwhelming question for this Lakers team. With Luca firmly

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Speaker 1: in control now of the direction of this organization, can

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Speaker 1: Lebron play Luca's game? You will see?

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's arguably one of the greatest minds to

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Speaker 2: ever ever you know, set foot on the court. And

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Speaker 2: if there is anyone who knows how to adapt their

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Speaker 2: game to what needs to be done, it is Lebron.

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Speaker 2: As we have yet to see, I mean we have

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Speaker 2: seen it. Will his ego in this you know, if

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Speaker 2: it's the last year he's in the Lakers uniform, will

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Speaker 2: it feed their success together or will it hinder?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And we'll find out how that all blur plays out.

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Speaker 1: But that that's really gonna be the dynamic there. All right.

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Speaker 1: Coming up on the other side, Nicky has a superstar

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Speaker 1: in mind. Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about this superstar. Okay. I'm gonna show

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Speaker 1: my ingorants and people are like again.

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Speaker 2: It's been a long time coming.

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Speaker 1: Here we go. This is Fox Sports Saturday. You're listening

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Speaker 1: to Fox Sports Radio Radio Steve Harbin and Nikki Ka

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Saturday. We're live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's excited about that. We are excited about that. All right.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna preface this by saying that I have certainly

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Speaker 1: nothing against Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 2: I recognize her, all right, all right, we're gonna need you.

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Speaker 1: To I could barely identify maybe a couple songs, but

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Speaker 1: I would say the same as Beyonce. I mean, here's

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Speaker 1: the thing about it. I honestly can't identify am I.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. What I will say is at some

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Speaker 1: point I don't know music wise, I think this is

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Speaker 1: pretty consistent. At some point in your life you just

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Speaker 1: say my catalog of music is full. I've sort of

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Speaker 1: cut it off there. I have a pretty good catalog

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Speaker 1: for many decades of it, but at some point I

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Speaker 1: stopped adding to my catalog and Taylor Swift unfortunately hasn't

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Speaker 1: really made the cut. But obviously she's the biggest star

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Speaker 1: in the world and I get all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: So are we still talking about Taylor Swift in terms

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Speaker 1: of her connection right now with Travis Kelsky in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I mean they did something unprecedented in terms of launch

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Speaker 2: or being on that podcast, the live viewership, the streams.

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Speaker 2: I know it was one point two million at one

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Speaker 2: point watching Monsey Did you tune in Lifetime? I was

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Speaker 2: part of the one point three million viewers too, Yes,

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Speaker 2: I was here. We broke YouTube. Yep, absolutely, I was

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Speaker 2: part of it.

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Speaker 8: I was like, I don't have time, I'm watching.

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Speaker 2: I think something that was so shocking about that moment

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Speaker 2: was a lot of Taylor Swift fans who have established

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Speaker 2: this connection through her music. You know, they went to

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Speaker 2: the concert concerts throughout their life. That was like the

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Speaker 2: most we have heard her talk in a very normal,

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Speaker 2: candid Waymally said this yesterday. Yeah, yes, it was two hours.

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Speaker 1: I did see the video her and Travis, and she

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Speaker 1: was talking about, you know, personnel moves with the chiefs

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Speaker 1: or like trying to basically talk about her involvement.

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Speaker 2: In Well, what it was, what it ultimately showed was

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Speaker 2: that they are a couple and they are interested in

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Speaker 2: each other's interests. And you could hear Travis and even

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Speaker 2: his brother Jason talking and you know, understanding the process

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Speaker 2: of what it took for her to buy back her

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Speaker 2: music rights, right, and then you heard her she's not

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Speaker 2: a sports girl, not a sports girl, but her love

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Speaker 2: loves football, So now she's learning to love it too.

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Speaker 2: So I think what we saw as fans of both

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Speaker 2: Sport and Taylor that it's a genuine relationship. It was fun,

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Speaker 2: it was it was really pure. And I also think

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Speaker 2: we're going to get Taylor at a super Bowl halftime

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Speaker 2: in Super Bowl forty seven.

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Speaker 1: Well, she won't get paid, as you know, she doesn't

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Speaker 1: need to get paid.

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Speaker 2: No, she doesn't need all.

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Speaker 1: Right, So are we ever going to see the nuptials here?

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Speaker 1: Is this actually going to happen?

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Speaker 8: I mean, that's came out that she was married.

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Speaker 2: I know it's going to be like that, right, right,

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Speaker 2: it's going to be like, oh done.

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Speaker 1: I mean, she's in her mid thirties now, he's in

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Speaker 1: the mid thirties. I mean, you know, at some point

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Speaker 1: you have to make that commitment, right, I mean you

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Speaker 1: have a family now.

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Speaker 2: You just remember there were betting props on whether he

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Speaker 2: would propose after the Superow what are the props?

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Speaker 1: Well? No, I don't know. Do you get a sense

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Speaker 1: of motherhood? Is something in her future or is her

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Speaker 1: career been making impossible?

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Speaker 2: I think if she wants to be a mom, she will.

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Speaker 2: But also I think we're I mean to get a

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Speaker 2: little meta here. I think a lot of women are

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Speaker 2: redefining what. You know, the traditional path has been so

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Speaker 2: long's you know, you get married, you have kids, But

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Speaker 2: now there's so many women out there who are choosing

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Speaker 2: choosing otherwise.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, to each his own, I'm all for that.

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Speaker 1: We got a lot of NFL to get coming up.

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Speaker 1: This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, rolling along here on another busy sports Saturday, Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Saturday. We're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 1: Coming up later in this hour, going to be joined

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Speaker 1: by our NFL insider Adam Kaplan. He's been touring all

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Speaker 1: kinds of training camps. He will give us all the

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Speaker 1: latest coming up later on in this hour. So, Nikki,

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Speaker 1: we were just talking about certain NFL teams where and

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Speaker 1: we know this every year, Nikki, there are going to

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Speaker 1: be and this is every year four or five teams

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Speaker 1: that will grossly underperform from what we're preseason predictions, and

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Speaker 1: there will be four or five teams that are way

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Speaker 1: better than anyone could have thought. So every year it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we know what's going to happen. The question is which

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Speaker 1: ones Which are the teams that are going to underperform,

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Speaker 1: and which are the teams that are going to overperform.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. So I'm looking at the

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Speaker 1: over unders. You know, they have the over underwins, and

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Speaker 1: the most curious division with over underwins is the NFC North.

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Speaker 2: I was I was just thinking about the NFC North

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Speaker 2: on my drive in, So you.

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Speaker 1: Think about it. You had the Lions won fifteen games

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Speaker 1: last year, the Vikings won fourteen games last year, the

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Speaker 1: Packers went eleven, and then the Bears were awful. But

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Speaker 1: if you look at the preseason, they got like the

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Speaker 1: Lions at ten and a half, they have the Vikings

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Speaker 1: at nine and a half. They have the Packers at

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Speaker 1: nine and a half, and then they have the Bears

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Speaker 1: at eight and a half. I'm like, okay, so you

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Speaker 1: think the problem is they know a lot. Yes, that's

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Speaker 1: the thing, and you're saying, wait a.

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Speaker 2: Second, what are we missing? What are we missing in something.

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Speaker 1: Like the Vikings at nine and a half?

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Speaker 2: Over over?

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Speaker 1: I mean, like the whole world say, over they're gonna

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Speaker 1: win ten games? Come on, they win fourteen with Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna win ten games.

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Speaker 2: That Lions line feels disrespectful.

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Speaker 1: What do they know? Now? One thing about the three

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Speaker 1: teams they did make the playoffs last year, the Lions, Packers,

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Speaker 1: and the Vikings, they all got embarrassed in their only

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Speaker 1: playoff game. Like with all the hype going into the

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Speaker 1: playoffs about this NFC North and everything, once they got

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Speaker 1: to show time, they all fizzled badly. So, like you

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Speaker 1: just said, what does Vegas know?

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Speaker 2: They know everything?

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Speaker 1: Well, do you believe the Bears are going to be

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Speaker 1: better this year? I mean, forget the three teams at

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Speaker 1: the top. Are the Bears now? Have they narrowed the

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Speaker 1: gap with the hiring of Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 2: It's so interesting to me because honestly, from Afar I

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Speaker 2: feel like the preseason is a whole lot of nothing

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Speaker 2: right when you go to practices, get updates at training camps,

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Speaker 2: like there's nothing really to talk about. Yet the Bears,

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Speaker 2: there's something percolating there in terms of what Ben Johnson's

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Speaker 2: trying to do establish his new culture and regime. And

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Speaker 2: yet Caleb, I'm curious he set out the preseason game.

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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm not sure what's going on there, and

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Speaker 2: is Caleb going to be able to Like you talk

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Speaker 2: about Ben Jonson closing the gap, is Caleb going to

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Speaker 2: be able to cross that gap with him?

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Speaker 1: Well, again, I will look at this way with preseason games,

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Speaker 1: and I would something you said earlier. Look, they should

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Speaker 1: eliminate all preseason games. And I think eventually once they

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Speaker 1: expand to an eighteen game schedule, which I'm going to

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Speaker 1: guess is going to be spread over twenty weeks where

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Speaker 1: you get two buys to they'll expand rosters a little

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Speaker 1: bit to get him through an eighteen game and.

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Speaker 2: Then get super bowld to that holiday weekend.

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Speaker 1: Something something along those lives early, but you know they'll

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Speaker 1: drag it out because you make more weekends available to

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Speaker 1: the network. Why settle for eighteen weeks, twenty weeks a game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so the more money, more money, more money. But every

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Speaker 1: coach would tell you controlled scrimmages are way more beneficial

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Speaker 1: for these teams because they can work with another team

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Speaker 1: saying these we need to work on AB and C

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Speaker 1: and they say, yeah, we need to do one, two three,

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Speaker 1: and we'll work together to work on areas of need

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Speaker 1: as opposed to playing a preseason game. But that being said,

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Speaker 1: who should play in a preseason game? Well, I mean

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Speaker 1: rookies obviously to sort of get their feet wet, get

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Speaker 1: into an NFL uniform, sort of get used to things.

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Speaker 1: And then teams like the Bears where you have a

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Speaker 1: coach coming in with a new system and you have

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams as your quarterback, Yeah, you need to get reps.

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Speaker 1: Why does Mahomes play every year in the preseason because

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Speaker 1: he likes to get some reps. Yet I know the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs still hold their breath like, ah yeah, but he

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Speaker 1: demands to be out there every single preseason to get

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Speaker 1: some reps. So, like you say, with Caleb Williams right now,

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Speaker 1: why is he not getting every possible chance to get

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Speaker 1: used to whatever Ben Johnson is introduced to that Bears offense.

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Speaker 2: And the reports coming out of Bears camp about Caleb

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Speaker 2: Williams have not been great. So I'm just really I'm

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Speaker 2: intrigued because I do think, you know, Ben Johnson is

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Speaker 2: capable of turning things around in Chicago. I think the

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Speaker 2: fan base is really excited that they landed him, right,

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Speaker 2: but it is QB one going to be able to

864
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Speaker 2: keep up?

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Speaker 1: Well? I mean, and again, how good is Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 2: The Bruin. The Bruins and us are kind of I

867
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Speaker 2: see our little our little little horns growing.

868
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Speaker 1: Look, the guy won a Heisman Trophy, right, and the

869
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Speaker 1: next season his numbers were certainly maybe not quite to

870
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Speaker 1: that level, but they weren't bad. They had no defense,

871
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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, when you're losing games.

872
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Speaker 2: There's a lot going on around him. That wasn't necessarily

873
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 2: his you know.

874
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 1: Fault, right, but he was under the tutelage of one

875
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley, And so, uh, I think that's Lincoln Riley

876
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 1: just called me. He's got are you going to talk

877
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: about me again? I've already said to you, Lincoln Riley,

878
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: you are the most overrated coach in college football. I

879
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: don't have to repeat myself over and over again. I've

880
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: said that publicly a million times. Overrated, overrated, overrated, Lincoln Riley.

881
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: Thank you there is I just got to He wanted

882
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: to call me, and I'm like, no, I'm not going

883
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: to talk about it before I be that clear. Okay,

884
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 1: I don't have to repeat myself over and over again.

885
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: Did I say Lincoln Rilly's the most overrated coaching college football.

886
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: I'll say it again.

887
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 2: I'm pleading the fifth on this one.

888
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: Are you a Lincoln Riley? I'm not. I won't take

889
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: you down the path if you don't want to go.

890
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: I've known Lincoln since he was an offensive coordinator at Oklahoma,

891
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 2: and so I've it's been fun to watch him rise

892
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 2: through the ranks of the college football world. And it

893
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: was really cool to see what he and Baker Mayfield

894
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 2: were able to accomplish together in Norman. And you know

895
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Speaker 2: he's here at USC and I'm curious how much longer

896
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 2: of a leash he's going to have with this program

897
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 2: if they don't win and do so convincingly this season.

898
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: Well they certainly he thought replacing Clay Helton with Lincoln

899
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: Riley was going to be a major step up and

900
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: that first season. Will looked like it was going to

901
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: be that until the Packtorld Championship game getting blown out

902
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: by Utah and then one of the most outrageous Bowl

903
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 1: game collapses of all time. And since then they're essentially

904
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Speaker 1: a five hundred team.

905
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 2: I once again re establishing that Steve and I are

906
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 2: UCLA brewin loon. I was cheering so hard for Utah

907
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 2: in that championhip.

908
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: You love every second of Oh my gosh.

909
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 2: And just watching the USC fans around me Wilton crumble.

910
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 2: There's no greater feeling than watching your rival fall.

911
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing about Caleb Williams. He obviously has

912
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: talent that is not to be questioned. The big question

913
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: with him and Ben Johnson, and when we think about

914
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: the greatest coaches in NFL history, always seem to be

915
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 1: in lockstep with the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history, meaning

916
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: the on the same page. And you say, well, you know,

917
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: it's not as easy. Not everyone has chemistry. And so

918
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Speaker 1: unless Caleb Williams one hundred percent buys in with whatever

919
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson is selling, it's not going to work in Chicago.

920
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: And that's that's the bottom line there. I mean, are

921
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: they in sync. Does Caleb Williams have the ability to

922
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 1: execute what it is that Ben Johnson has in mind

923
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: for that Bears offense, Well.

924
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 2: We wouldn't know because he didn't play in the preseason.

925
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Why is he not playing? I

926
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Speaker 1: don't know, If I may weigh in.

927
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Speaker 2: For a second, got USC behind the glass.

928
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Speaker 9: It's not from the USC, It's from the Lions side

929
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Speaker 9: of things, But a couple things are going on. First off,

930
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 9: I think they are start playing starters here this weekend.

931
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 9: But I think a the not playing starters kind of

932
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 9: came from the Dan Campbell side of things in that

933
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 9: the Lions gave a lot of rest their starters, so

934
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Speaker 9: I thought he could just kind of, you know, he

935
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 9: thought he could bring this in and just you know,

936
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 9: do the same thing. But also I do wonder when

937
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 9: it comes to how much we give to Ben Johnson

938
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Speaker 9: just whispering on down to Caleb Williams. I think the

939
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 9: talents there with Caleb Williams, but a Ben Johnson implementing

940
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 9: his system does take time. And b I don't think

941
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 9: I have ever seen anyone give any credit to what

942
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 9: I know the relationship was between Jared Goff and Ben

943
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 9: Johnson and a lot of that was Jared Goff pushing

944
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Speaker 9: back sometimes on Ben Johnson and saying no, we should

945
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 9: do things like this and molding that system into what

946
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 9: it became in Detroit. And I don't see that same

947
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 9: kind of back and forth really there between Ben Johnson

948
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Speaker 9: and Caleb was You're talking about a guy who is

949
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Speaker 9: basically a sophomore quarterback who just in his rookie year

950
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 9: saw you know, the entire coaching staff get hollowed out

951
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 9: and fired, versus Jared Goff, who has been around the

952
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 9: league for a while, came up with Sean mcg even

953
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 9: pushed back with Sean McVay a few times. But like

954
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 9: sometimes iron sharpens iron, and I just don't see that

955
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 9: same relationship in Chicago there.

956
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 1: Well, and here's the thing. So you look at Caleb

957
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 1: Williams and you remember the comparisons nicking where people are

958
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: you know, oh, there's a lot of Patrick Mahomes. I'm like, oh,

959
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: stop that. But the bottom line is, if you're a

960
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: coach who's the de facto coordinator like Ben Johnson, and

961
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: you like your quarterback like Jared Goff is, who's very

962
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: much a system quarterback. In other words, he's not going

963
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: to do a lot addlebing on the field unless he's

964
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: forced into a situation. Whereas Caleb Williams, you know, he's

965
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: more of a freelance guy. Like I can create things.

966
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 1: I can do things with di athleticism. It can create

967
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 1: things out there. And you're the coach saying I'm sure

968
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 1: you can in an emergency situation, but frankly, I'd rather

969
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: you stick to the script. If we established what it

970
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 1: is the script is calling for, and we get that down,

971
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: then we can add to that. And that's going to

972
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 1: be the question. Jared Goff Is can very much follow

973
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: a script and do it effectively. Can Caleb Williams follow

974
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 1: a script?

975
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 2: I know? And I do like that observation of Jared

976
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 2: goff in his maturity in the league and as a

977
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 2: quarterback and what he was able to establish and build

978
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 2: in Detroit. I don't think we maybe shine that light

979
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 2: on him enough when you talk about what he brings

980
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 2: even as a system quarterback. And it's interesting though, because yes,

981
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 2: even though Caleb's sophomore season, he's got to step up.

982
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 2: He's got to be the leader, and he's got to

983
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 2: If you want to buy in, now's the time to

984
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: do it.

985
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: And that's the thing. When we talk about leaders, and

986
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,720
Speaker 1: I say this all the time, By definition, a leader

987
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: is someone who inspires others to follow. You can't just

988
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: say he's the leader. If he doesn't inspire others to follow,

989
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: he can't be a leader. Can Caleb Williams be the

990
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: leader of this Bears team? All right? Coming up on

991
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: the other side, we got a couple of other teams

992
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,959
Speaker 1: who want to get to including a team that some

993
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: people think could be the surprise dominant team in the AFC.

994
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: This is Fox Sports Saturday. Steve Hartman, Nikki Ka with

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00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 1: you Fox Sports Saturday. We're live from the Fox Sports

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1002
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: here on Fox Sports Radio on the iHeartRadio app. Well,

1003
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: you're just tuning in. Nicky and I share a UCLA pedigree,

1004
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: but very much different. I'll share a story with you.

1005
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: So basically, when I got into UCLA coming out of

1006
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: high school, uh, and I only applied to one school.

1007
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: Pretty much if you had if you're breathing, you could

1008
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: get in. Okay. So let's flash forward years later, and

1009
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 1: I used to mc a scholarship event for UCLA.

1010
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 7: UH.

1011
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: And you know, we hand out scholarships too, And so

1012
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: this one year, we had four girls that received the

1013
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: scholarship money. I'm rattling off their high school resumes, you know,

1014
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, four point five GPA, fifteen

1015
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: forty on their SAT student body president, you know, captain

1016
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: of some athletic team. So I said at the end,

1017
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: after doing all this, I said, first of all, I

1018
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: want to congratulate all of our scholarship winners. I'd also

1019
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 1: like to apologize because you see, when I graduated from UCLA,

1020
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: they said, never again, we need to raise the balls.

1021
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: Never again are we going to have someone like this

1022
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: on our books. So the fact that you went to

1023
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: use CLA, that's that's pretty unbelievable.

1024
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 2: It was. It's tough to get into these institutions now crazy. Also,

1025
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 2: I told myself I would never be the person to

1026
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 2: refer to my college as an institution. So I'd like

1027
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 2: to retract that statement someone. I mean, I know Stanford

1028
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 2: got to give someone props for being in grad school

1029
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 2: at Stanford. They were talking to me and they're going, yeah,

1030
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 2: you know, at my institution. And I clocked in that

1031
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 2: conversation that I will never be the person to refer

1032
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 2: to my college, my alma mater, as an institution.

1033
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: So you were actually recruited how high?

1034
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 2: I was not good enough to play sports at UCLA.

1035
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 2: They have insane Division I programs across Olympics sports. You know,

1036
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 2: basketball speaks for itself. I did yet recruited walking my

1037
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 2: freshman year to be a coxin on the rowing team. However,

1038
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 2: UCLA Rowing women's rowing. Uh the practice time is five

1039
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 2: am in the Marina Harbor. So that did not really

1040
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 2: chill in the air. Yes, yes, that did not really

1041
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 2: prove to be conducive for my social life, you know.

1042
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 2: And and but I did. I did desperately want to

1043
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 2: be in on a team. So that ultimately led to

1044
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 2: me being a recruiting assistant for the football team. So

1045
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 2: it was a lot of fun. All my sorority sisters,

1046
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 2: there's like eight of us. We were just it was

1047
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,760
Speaker 2: the best job you could ask for undergrad.

1048
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: That sounds like a lot of fun, no question about that. Well,

1049
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: maybe UCLA could use you, now, Nikki, to do that

1050
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: as well, because we've got.

1051
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 2: To get that Foster Deshaun Foster.

1052
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: Foster fans, We're going to wish them all the best

1053
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,760
Speaker 1: for the upcoming football season. Let's get back to the NFL.

1054
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: There is a team right now that again a lot

1055
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: of people a year ago. Now, Nikki, if anyone that's

1056
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: been following me for many, many years, they begged me

1057
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 1: to make locks, whether they're season long locks or weekly locks,

1058
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: because they know it's money in the bank. By just

1059
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: going the other way, they fade you. My prognostication skills

1060
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: are so notoriously bad. And my excuse always is you might.

1061
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 2: Say they're excellent if if you're giving people the easy answer.

1062
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: I really am. By going one way, I'm literally handing

1063
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: you money the other way. Steve, Oh, we've we've we've

1064
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: tested this over entire seasons. Like just if you would

1065
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: bet against every pick that I lock, like this is

1066
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: my game of the week and you just double down

1067
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: like you'd be a millionaire by the end of the season.

1068
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: Very simply with a very small investment, just double it

1069
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: down all the way through. So now you now you

1070
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,439
Speaker 1: got that. But that being said, last year I did

1071
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: have a rare correct addiction. So before the season began,

1072
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: everyone here at Fox Sports Radio has to make you

1073
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: know our Super Bowl picks, all the usual stuff, but

1074
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: you have to make one out of the box pick.

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Speaker 1: And my out of the box pick was that their

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Speaker 1: Denver Broncos, led by their rookie quarterback Bo Knicks, would

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs. And the Denver Broncos made the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: And the reason I was pretty confident with that one

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Speaker 1: is that you're saying the Broncos they hadn't even been

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. They had not even been in the

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Speaker 1: playoffs since winning that last Super Bowl with Peyton Manning's

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Speaker 1: noodle alarm falling off and that dominant defense they had

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00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 1: with Von Miller that year. But I was doing a

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Speaker 1: little look into their grading of their offensive and defensive lines,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, good, how about this stat Last year

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Speaker 1: there were only two teams in the league who grated

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Speaker 1: out on both sides of the line top three in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. One was the Super Bowl champion Eagles, the

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Speaker 1: other the Denver Broncos. So you look at the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: They win ten games a year ago with a rookie quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You gotta believe another year with Sean Payton and Bo Nicks,

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Speaker 1: they're going to go next level. There are a lot

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Speaker 1: of people on the inside. Forget the Chiefs, forget the Bills,

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Speaker 1: forget the Ravens, forget the Bengals, look out Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 2: And I was listening to Diana Russini, a very you know,

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Speaker 2: savvy NFL insider, and she was waxing poetic about how

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Speaker 2: much Sean Payton loves his QB. He is enamored. And

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Speaker 2: I think they are building. They have built something special

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Speaker 2: in Denver, and I would imagine that they are going

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Speaker 2: to be a well, I don't think they're so sneaky

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Speaker 2: anymore because a lot of people are talking about the

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Speaker 2: Denver Broncos already hold on.

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Speaker 1: I mean, now they're on the radar, and then we'll

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Speaker 1: see how they respond to that. But I just go

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Speaker 1: back to Sean Payne's relationship with Drew Brees, where the

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Speaker 1: Chargers were convinced after are finga shoulder injury, and of

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Speaker 1: course they'd already used a top four pick on Philip

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Speaker 1: Rivers that they can move on from Drew Brees and

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Speaker 1: just hand the ball to Rivers and they'll win super Bowls,

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Speaker 1: which did not happen. Drew Brees would win a Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl in New Orleans. But this gets back to what

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Speaker 1: we were talking about with kayleb Williams and Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Can you get a quarterback and a coach on the

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Speaker 1: same page. Well, obviously right now Sean Payton and Bo

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Speaker 1: Nix are on the same page.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. I'm excited to see kind of how each quarterback

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Speaker 2: in the AFC specifically is kind of making a I

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Speaker 2: think there's a lot of legacy on the line for

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Speaker 2: the names in the AFC, right, So it's going to

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Speaker 2: be a fun season, especially if you get a team

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Speaker 2: like the Broncos emerging.

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Speaker 1: All right, well save that coming up, because we're going

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Speaker 1: to be joined on the other side by Adam Kaplan,

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Speaker 1: our NFL insider. But first let's find out who is

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Speaker 1: a trending right now, That of course is.

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Speaker 2: Guys.

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Speaker 8: I'm enjoying this show, these these two Bruins together, you know,

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Speaker 8: bruing it up.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I'm enjoying it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she earned her way in the UCLA.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we know way, We're fully aware of that. I'm

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Speaker 2: fully aware of that.

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Speaker 8: We've got one NFL preseason game going on right now,

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Speaker 8: and it's Top Time between the forty nine Ers and

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Speaker 8: the Raiders in Las Vegas, Las Vegas up thirteen to ten.

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Speaker 8: Ashton genty seven carries, thirty three yards and a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 8: Other games that have wrapped up, like the Dolphins defeating

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Speaker 8: the Lions twenty.

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Speaker 2: Four to seventeen.

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Speaker 8: Packers on top of the gold twenty three nineteen, Patriots

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01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 8: over the Vikings twenty to twelve. Texans defeated the Panthers

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01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 8: the Panthers twenty to three, and the Browns took down

1144
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 8: the Eagles twenty two to thirteen. Dylan Gabriel thirteen of eighteen,

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Speaker 8: one hundred and forty three yards and one interception. I

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Speaker 8: played you guys the clip earlier today of him saying

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Speaker 8: that there are entertainers and competitors. He kind of said

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Speaker 8: that that what he met was that the entertainers were

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Speaker 8: the media and that the petitors are all of his teammates.

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Speaker 1: That's a week skin.

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01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 8: I just war some clearly one hundred percent agree with

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Speaker 8: you on that. Just letting you know he did try

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Speaker 8: and clarify what he meant. Other NFL news, the league

1154
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Speaker 8: determined that Cowboys wide receiver CD Lamb does not need

1155
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 8: to be fine after he was plowed down by that

1156
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 8: ref on the sideline, so they're not going to find

1157
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Speaker 8: him for looking.

1158
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Speaker 2: Like that on TV.

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Speaker 8: The Commanders have activated Terry McLaurin off the physically unable

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Speaker 8: to perform list. Saints quarterback Tyler Shook will start Sunday's

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Speaker 8: preseason game against the Jaguars. NBA news, Luka Doncic was

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Speaker 8: diagnosed with the right knee contusion while playing for Slovenia's

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Speaker 8: national team, but it's not believed to be serious. When

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Speaker 8: it comes to college football, the Big Ten has considered

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Speaker 8: an idea of a massive expansion of the college football

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Speaker 8: playoff that would grow the postseason to twenty four or

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Speaker 8: twenty eight teams.

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Speaker 2: ESPN has the story.

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Speaker 8: They said the idea is very early in the stages

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Speaker 8: of it, but the proposal eliminates conference title games and

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Speaker 8: offers a large number of auto bids for all four

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Speaker 8: pawn our leagues. For example, in a twenty eighteen model,

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Speaker 8: the Big Ten and SEC would each get seven auto bids,

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Speaker 8: while the ACC and Big twelve would each receive five.

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Speaker 8: There would be two auto bids for the non Power

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Speaker 8: four conferences and two at large teams.

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Speaker 1: Okay, here here's my whole thing. No buyes. We just

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01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: saw what happen when he had buyes the first year

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Speaker 1: of the playoffs, all four by teams lost. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: either it's going to be sixteen or thirty two exactly.

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Speaker 1: No twenty four, no twenty eight, No, bye.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye bye byes.

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Speaker 1: We dogged work on the collegiate level. All right, that's

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Speaker 1: a great story.

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Speaker 8: Yes, so we'll see, we will see what happens.

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Speaker 2: You want some baseballores?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Shall we have some love to what Clayton Kershaw all day,

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Speaker 2: all day, every day? Go go, I I just read this.

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Speaker 2: You know he has made the second most starts of

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Speaker 2: anybody currently on LA's staff, and he has the second

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Speaker 2: best era in the rotation of anyone who's made at

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Speaker 2: least five stars.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, here's the thing who would have for

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Speaker 1: the season. By the middle of August, their most consistent

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Speaker 1: starter was going to be Clayton Kershe who.

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Speaker 8: Can't even get to ninety miles per hour.

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Speaker 2: But he's effective.

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Speaker 1: You know what, He's a picture this.

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Speaker 2: They were dreaming this season like his farewell tour. I

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Speaker 2: think it is.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 2: He's not one to announce it. I was in, I

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01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 2: was in. I covered the World Series with the Dodgers,

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Speaker 2: and in that locker room after he's got his full

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Speaker 2: dad bought out and he's just no kids. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: like Clayton, what does this moment mean to you? Who

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01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 2: goes I did nothing. I did nothing, But he did everything.

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Speaker 2: He did everything, built that foundation for this you know book.

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Speaker 1: He is arguably one of the top fifteen to twenty

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Speaker 1: pictures in the history of Right, I'm with you. I

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Speaker 1: mean the numbers. Don't leave Erao. Look all right, Monsu,

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Speaker 1: we got Adam Kaplan. We're ready to go once again,

1215
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Speaker 1: coming to you live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 1: If you miss any of today's show, catch the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Right after the show, today's podcast will be posted. Be

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01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:04,200
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01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 1: give us a review as well. Again, just search Fox

1221
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Speaker 1: Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts and find today's show.

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Speaker 1: We'll posted right after we get off the air. All right, Jonny,

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Speaker 1: it's right now. Man has been touring NFL training camps everywhere.

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Speaker 1: He is our NFL insider, Adam Kaplan. Adam always appreciate

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Speaker 1: the time. I know you had a busy week. Give

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Speaker 1: us the highlight of your week. Give us something you

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Speaker 1: found out this week that you did not expect. When

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Speaker 1: we'll welcome last week.

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Speaker 6: All right, So let me explain this. So I've seen

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Speaker 6: Miles Garrett before, this is not new, but when he

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Speaker 6: abuses a first team offensive line maybe the best of

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Speaker 6: the National Football League that I take note of that

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Speaker 6: Miles Gartt was, I mean superman this week.

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Speaker 1: Now you have to.

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Speaker 6: Understand talking the Browns about him. You know, we came

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Speaker 6: in there many years ago as a rookie. He was

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Speaker 6: I would call him finn, but he wasn't really physically developed.

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Speaker 1: Over the last three years.

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Speaker 6: I don't know that there's a better condition athlete at

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Speaker 6: the edge rusher position. And he made Lane Johnson with

1241
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 6: Jordan Mailatta. You know, he moved from side to side.

1242
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Speaker 6: Jordan my lotest left tackle for the Eagles. Lane Johnson

1243
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 6: is the right tackle. It's probably gonna be a Hall

1244
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Speaker 6: of Famer someday. And it was kind of toying with

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Speaker 6: him it's It reminded me Steve of this back in

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Speaker 6: twenty fifteen ish that area on my training camp tour.

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01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 6: I saw Tom Brady come into Philly and go twenty

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Speaker 6: eight for twenty eight ball never hit the ground and

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Speaker 6: every pass he made the receiver go get or the

1250
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Speaker 6: past target. There's sometimes when you go to training camp.

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Speaker 6: I remember seeing I remember seeing I'm going to say,

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Speaker 6: probably oh boy, very early in my career, some great

1253
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 6: quarterback play. You know, going from camp to camp, and

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Speaker 6: you know you make note of it. Saw Matthew Stafford

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Speaker 6: very early in his career. But when you see something special,

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Speaker 6: you got to make note of it. And what Miles

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Speaker 6: Garrett did this week was really incredible over two days.

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Speaker 2: Adam, A pleasure to be chatting with you. I'm curious

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Speaker 2: when you look at the landscape of the AFC right

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Speaker 2: now and the bevy of talented quarterbacks in that conference,

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Speaker 2: who's got the most to gain or lose this season

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Speaker 2: in terms of legacy, in.

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Speaker 1: Terms of what I'm not sure what you mean by that.

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Speaker 6: Look what when you see legacy?

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Speaker 2: I think I think when you when you look at

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Speaker 2: the landscape of this season and how it plays out,

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Speaker 2: and what quarterback needs needs to accomplish something special. Who

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Speaker 2: are you looking at, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, I would say C J.

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Speaker 6: Stroud After he was incredible one of the better rookie

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Speaker 6: seasons we've seen him from a quarterback. Now last season

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Speaker 6: what I was told was, yes, well, he didn't play

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Speaker 6: anywhere nearly as good as year one. Their offensive line

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Speaker 6: had problems. They traded their left tackle, Laramie ton Sool.

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Speaker 6: He's now with the Commanders. He's got to bounce back.

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Speaker 6: On your question, that would be the guy that would

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Speaker 6: come to mind immediately. He's got to bounce back. He's

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Speaker 6: got to be better, but they have to protect him better.

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Speaker 6: I don't I don't think to be honest with you,

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Speaker 6: as I talk to people in the league who evaluate

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Speaker 6: their offensive line. With the Texans, they have a left

1282
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Speaker 6: tackle problem with what they're trying to go with their

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Speaker 6: whether it's Cam Robinson or somebody else. Cam Robinson the

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Speaker 6: Jaguars got rid of he went to Minnesota and they

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Speaker 6: got probably gonna with a rookie at right tackle. They're

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Speaker 6: not really good on the offensive line. So I would

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Speaker 6: say on your question, that would be my biggest concern

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Speaker 6: right now at the quarterback position. And then we're talking

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Speaker 6: about the teams that should make the playoffs. That would

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Speaker 6: be the one, all right.

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Speaker 1: Try to explain this one to me. So, John Harbaugh,

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Speaker 1: coach of the Ravens, would Joe Flacco as his quarterback

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Speaker 1: had a playoff record of ten and five with Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson as his quarterback? He's three and five?

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Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 1: So Joe Flacco, who is never named even to a

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl in his career versus a two time league

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Speaker 1: MVP of many thinks should have been a three time

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Speaker 1: MVP last year. Why he's such a different dynamic in

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Speaker 1: the postseason, same coach, two different quarterbacks.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I've called Lamar Jackson one of the best rega

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Speaker 6: set quarterbacks in NFL history. Now let's go back to

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Speaker 6: Joe flaco twenty twelve Super Bowl run. I've known Joe

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Speaker 6: since seven. Actually talked to him this week, saw him

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Speaker 6: in the field for a little bit. He was now

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Speaker 6: forty years old. Joe was a guy with maybe the

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Speaker 6: best one of the best arms in NFL history of

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01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 6: decent athleticism. But this was an era and they're still

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Speaker 6: doing it. Where they're running football, they're built with defense,

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Speaker 6: limited attempts and rarely ask him to win games, and

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Speaker 6: that's kind of happened. And then I just remember getting

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Speaker 6: word that they were going to move on from Flaco.

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Speaker 6: They were going to Now we didn't know what they

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Speaker 6: were going to do with We didn't know they're going

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Speaker 6: to draft Lamar Jackson, but we knew that they were

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Speaker 6: looking to move on from the draft of Lamar. You

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Speaker 6: kind of saw Joe Steve bounce around. You saw what

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01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 6: happened with Denver not very good. Now two years ago,

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Speaker 6: he was phenomenal, put the team on his back, off

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Speaker 6: the couch. He was just working out on his own

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Speaker 6: and he with his kids really and he put the

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Speaker 6: team in the playoffs. But we turn our intention to

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Speaker 6: Lamar now, Steve. Look, let's let's face it, this competition

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Speaker 6: is way better than the playoffs. That's a big part

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Speaker 6: of it when you really look at it. And the

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Speaker 6: thing that with Lamar is and it's not so much

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Speaker 6: already how many come from behind wins as he had,

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Speaker 6: it's one he's had to do it in the playoffs

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Speaker 6: from behind when they're not doing well. He's been unable

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Speaker 6: to bring the team back. That's sort of the issue.

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Speaker 6: If you really dig in the weeds here with him,

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Speaker 6: but there's no quarterback and I like watching more. In fact,

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Speaker 6: I'll be with the Ravens, I think on Wednesday. Unfortunately

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Speaker 6: they're joining practice canceled on Thursday, so I'll probably go

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Speaker 6: see them Wednesday. He is pretty special, and I have

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Speaker 6: to tell you, I was surprised. I was talking with

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Speaker 6: one of their coaches last year about this, and I said, Hey,

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Speaker 6: how's the Lamar Derek? How many situation working? He goes,

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01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 6: you were here at practice. They go, yeah, but I

1340
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 6: can't tell because you can't tacklem. He goes, trust me.

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Speaker 6: And they got off to a little bit of a

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Speaker 6: slow start, but once that thing got rolling, they were

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Speaker 6: absolutely incredible. But the problem Steve with Baltimore last season

1344
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 6: was their defense was just nowhere near as good.

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Speaker 1: As it used to be.

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Speaker 2: Adam, we were talking earlier in the show about the

1347
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 2: relationship of Ben Johnson and Jared Goff in Detroit and

1348
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 2: now Johnson in Chicago obviously trying to install new culture.

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Speaker 2: You know, his offense there from what you've heard, from

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Speaker 2: what you're informed of, how is his relationship with Caleb

1351
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,759
Speaker 2: Williams and what's going on? What's going on in Chicago,

1352
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 2: because it hasn't seemed, you know, Sunshine and Daisies from Afar,

1353
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 2: at least in terms of the stuff percolating in preseason.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So what I understand is they've taken to Bench

1355
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 6: Once's coach, and he coaches hard, like he's on them constantly.

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Speaker 6: He's I would call Matt Patricia's Matt Patricia was a

1357
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 6: big yeller in the Lions tune them out, and that's

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01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 6: one of the reasons why I fail there. But that's

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01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 6: what Song of the Liones told me, is that it's

1360
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:57,719
Speaker 6: a he joke. Between four and six months, you're gonna

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Speaker 6: know if it's going to work or not. Really not

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Speaker 6: a year or two is no, they're they're other their

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01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 6: other take to his coaching, or they're gonna want them

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01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 6: out of there because they won't be able to handle them.

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Speaker 6: So everything I've been told privately is they've taken to

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Speaker 6: the coaching. They've responded well. Now it's been hard on

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Speaker 6: Caleb Williams. They're coaching them up hard. He's had some

1368
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 6: good days and some days, so you'd like to forget.

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Speaker 6: It's going to take time. But the good, really good

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01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 6: thing around them is they've got a run game. They

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Speaker 6: three new starters on their offensive line in the interior,

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Speaker 6: so they had to do that and they're really loaded

1373
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 6: with their past target group that that It's to the

1374
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 6: point now where there are no excuses for Caleb Williams

1375
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 6: because last year you could you could could question the coaching,

1376
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,640
Speaker 6: which is just being honestly. The coaching was not good

1377
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 6: enough for when I'm old, and that's one of the

1378
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 6: reasons why he moved on for Matti ebra Flussi. He

1379
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 6: just didn't bring good enough coaches in there. And now

1380
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Speaker 6: he's getting hard coaching. Caleb Williams needs disciplined guys. That

1381
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 6: hard coaching is you you get respect from your player,

1382
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 6: you're autumn constantly, and that's exactly what I'm told has

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01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:52,719
Speaker 6: been happening with Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 1: All Right. So I know a lot of people get

1385
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 1: irked when you and I talk about, you know, the

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Speaker 1: good old days. At times I love it. The storytelling great, well,

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01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 1: the storytelling is great, but I mean preseason football. We've

1388
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 1: talked about this at nauseum. How much has changed over

1389
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 1: the years, And now we have the situation with the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: So Charger Rams game coming up at so far later

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01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 1: this afternoon, and justin Herbert approached Jim Harbaugh and asked

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Speaker 1: to play in the game. He has never taken a

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01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 1: snap on a preseason game. Remember his rookie year was

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01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:28,759
Speaker 1: the COVID years, so there was no preseason, never taking

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01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 1: a snap in a preseason game. Now he wants to,

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01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 1: and because he's going to be on the field, so

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Speaker 1: will a lot of the regulars be on the field.

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Speaker 1: And we now, all of a sudden, the are seeing

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Speaker 1: a few more teams parade out their starters in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: So what appeared to be a trend away from that,

1401
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 1: now some people are looking at and say there could

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01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 1: be some value here. Why is this happening? All right?

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Speaker 6: So this has been interesting, Steve, since we've moved to

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01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 6: three gamestead of four game preseason, where it used to

1405
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 6: be textbook. First game starters don't play. Second game, they

1406
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 6: play a quarter, third games, address rehearsal, they play half

1407
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 6: were into the third quarter. Fourth game they don't play.

1408
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 6: Now it's completely changed. So what coaches have told me

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01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:16,640
Speaker 6: on this tour is it's tricky comes down to what

1410
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,799
Speaker 6: we think they need. But it comes on to your point.

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01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 6: If you start the quarterback, you have to have the

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Speaker 6: first team offensive line in there, and remember Rashaun Slater,

1413
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 6: their left tackles out for the season with Towarm Teler tenants.

1414
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 6: So it's a little tricky like that's that's not often done.

1415
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 6: When a player asks to play, you almost say listen, now,

1416
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 6: we hear you, but we're not going to do that.

1417
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 6: We're gonna stick with their plan. That's a little tricky

1418
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 6: for me. But that's the thing like fans don't seem

1419
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 6: to understand if your players starting quarterback, you put your

1420
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 6: first team offensive lineup, there's no debate over that.

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Speaker 1: You have to have them out there. Yeah, and I

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01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 1: don't know how I'd be there about that where they're

1423
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 1: not going to say no, so and then barrely Jim

1424
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 1: rather play. So you know players talking them over the years,

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01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 1: they would rather. They don't like they.

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01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 6: Want timing and rhythm. Yeah, if they're beat up physically.

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Speaker 6: I understand. Training camps are long tho though of course

1428
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 6: they don't hit, but coaches want to know what these

1429
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 6: guys look like, particularly the guys who need the work

1430
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 6: right exactly.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, usually players will say they say, oh,

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01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 1: we dried there preseason, but once they're on the field, yeah,

1433
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 1: they want to play as always, Adam, great stuff. We'll

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01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 1: talk to you again next week. Thank you. That's good.

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01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 1: Thanks Adam Kaplan. There are NFL insider all right, what

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01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 1: is in store in the week ahead? Well, Nicky and

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01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 1: I are going to break it down for you. This

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01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 1: is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harbin, Nikki k Saturday Sports Saturday. Yeah,

1439
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 1: live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. So let me

1440
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:58,639
Speaker 1: ask you this. Do you prefer professional football or college football?

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01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 2: Ooh. I love the pageantry of college sports, but I

1442
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 2: think I tend to favor football Sundays. And I think

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01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 2: the NFL is just so it's everywhere, it's everything, and

1444
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:22,719
Speaker 2: I don't have a team, so I love stories and

1445
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 2: it's fun to root for individual players as well. So

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01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think college the landscape of college

1447
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 2: sports has changed so much with nil deals in the

1448
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 2: transfer portal and having attachment and you know, I just

1449
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 2: I think I'm I think I'm pro football. How about you?

1450
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 1: I think again, having worked for the Raiders and working

1451
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 1: in professional football and understanding the business side of football,

1452
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 1: and it's interesting because I've known players over the years,

1453
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 1: and I did a series for a publication where I

1454
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 1: was at to do interviews with former UCLA players, and

1455
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 1: two of the great players back in the seventies both

1456
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 1: had great NFL careers were Kenny Easiley and Jerry Robinson,

1457
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 1: and I knew both of them, and I remember it

1458
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 1: was funny. I did separate interviews with these two guys,

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01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 1: and it was Jerry Robinson first, and we were talking

1460
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:23,640
Speaker 1: about UCLA games and he stopped, he goes, you know,

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01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 1: it's really interesting. I can remember like every college game.

1462
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 1: But if you were to ask me about my NFL career, yeah,

1463
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:33,639
Speaker 1: I remember the Super Bowl or it just like a blur,

1464
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 1: but I can remember, even though it's longer ago, and

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01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 1: so maybe I don't know. A few months later, I'm

1466
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,839
Speaker 1: talking to Kenny Easily. We're having a similar conversation. He stops,

1467
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 1: he goes, you know, really wears Steve, I can remember

1468
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 1: almost every one of my and I'm like, is there

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01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 1: an echo in the room. And I had the good

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01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 1: fortune of being part of the UCLA broadcast team for

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01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 1: two years. I did the sidelines for radio one year,

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Speaker 1: and then I was up in the booth with Chris

1473
01:17:55,880 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 1: Roberts and we went to Knoxville. Peyton Manning's junior year

1474
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,879
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six. They had just expanded to neland stadium

1475
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 1: to a one hundred thousand plus and then two weeks later,

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01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm at the Big House. By the way, he saw.

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01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's first play as a college player is a

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01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:15,560
Speaker 1: blowout win for Michigan. He threw a pick six. His

1479
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 1: first pass the Michigan was a pick six to UCLA.

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01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 1: But when you're in that atmosphere, you would never get

1481
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 1: that in the NFL, right ever. I mean you're not

1482
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 1: going to get one hundred thousand people to show up

1483
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 1: for you know, we don't always see it here in

1484
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 1: southern California, but when you get down in the South

1485
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,560
Speaker 1: or in the Big Ten, I mean this is commonplace.

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01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:37,599
Speaker 1: You know, you Penn State, you know, one hundred thousand plus.

1487
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 1: So you mentioned pageantry, the traditions, yea, you know, the

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01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 1: rivalries in college. So if that's what I'm fearing, don't

1489
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 1: get away from those rivalries. I mean, Lincoln Riley talking

1490
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:54,520
Speaker 1: about eliminating Notre Dame from what are you talking about?

1491
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 1: Have you just completely did I mention he's the most

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01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 1: overrated coach in college football one more time. Yeah, he's

1493
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 1: the most overrated coach. But when he brought up like

1494
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:07,839
Speaker 1: eliminating the Notre Dame game from USC schedule.

1495
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, big miss, stop big miss.

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01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 5: You know.

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01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 2: I was chatting with Matt Liner and he's like, I'm

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Speaker 2: I like UCLA. I like UCLI he goes Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: I cannot stand and I will not stand. And when

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Speaker 2: you have that sort of feud, you got to do

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Speaker 2: everything you can to keep that alive. Yes.

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Speaker 1: Right, I was raised the Trojan my dad, believe me. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Winning against UCLA usually in those days, meant your tickets

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Speaker 1: to the Rose Bowl, Right, That's what was on the line.

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Speaker 1: But Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: Oh no. And as as Bruins, we love Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: But you kind of love the rivalries I mean you,

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Speaker 1: I mean the rivalries in the NFL, but not like that.

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Speaker 2: You're right, You're right. I I just and I think

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Speaker 2: maybe when we talk about college football. As as as

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Speaker 2: UCLA fans know, we haven't been blessed with yes, with

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Speaker 2: the most dominant of recent history.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: No, And getting out to the rest of the mission,

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Speaker 2: but I do love every time I'm there. It is magical.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and so so anyway, all right, so

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Speaker 1: let's see we got zero coming up. Yes, it is

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Speaker 1: a zero, isn't it. But you know, I love this

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Speaker 1: because we now have that bye week, which is so

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Speaker 1: confusing with the NFL. Right, you have Week three of

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Speaker 1: the preseason, then you have a bye week. Okay, but

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Speaker 1: that is week one of the college football season where

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Speaker 1: the college football gets a takeover. You have games on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: If you have, it's going to be fantastic.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be great stuff. Well, Nikki, great stuff.

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Speaker 2: Today's a blast.

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Speaker 1: Quickly, we're just dest couple of ruins hanging out and

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Speaker 1: doing our thing. I'm anxious to see how it's going

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Speaker 1: to work out with Justin Herbert in a couple hours

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Speaker 1: taking the field against the Rams in a preseason game.

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Speaker 1: Don't going anywhere, keep it right here. Much more coming up.

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