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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive To with Ashlyn Sullim sounds, John

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Speaker 1: Oshan and Brian Sexty. Jacks Drive To starts right now.

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Speaker 1: Bills trying to pick it up. They can't. Alan Chris sipting.

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Speaker 1: It's Josh Allen intercipting, Josh Anon brother just at the

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Speaker 1: Jos Almond Chrsus Dass Almond soon come up for anybody

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Speaker 1: you want to want to off. Having Mike Cup is

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Speaker 1: a officially very good luck and the two wins the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars have had Josh Allen is Mike Depth. So we're

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Speaker 1: going to clock it in that that is a very

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Speaker 1: good sign of Speaking of Josh Allen, the a f

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Speaker 1: C Defensive Player of the Week just announced this morning.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations could not have gone to a better guy. And

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Speaker 1: it has been a while since the Jaguar has been

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Speaker 1: awarded one of these. He's really good. He's really good.

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Speaker 1: I remember Draft night in Nashville when I was yeah,

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Speaker 1: they they thought he was gonna go before where the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars picked at seven and they was getting a fee

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Speaker 1: to who to go find in the green room. They

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Speaker 1: were telling me to go find T. J. Hockinson and

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden they started yelling, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: it's Allen. They were surprised he landed to them, And

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Speaker 1: how fortunate they are that he slid to them at

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Speaker 1: number seven, because that guy is a top talent, and

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Speaker 1: I think we're just we're starting to see him take

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Speaker 1: over games. He did in London against the Dolphin. He

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Speaker 1: played so well in Seattle, and then of course last week,

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Speaker 1: now he's the a f C Defensive Player of the

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Speaker 1: Week watch out Indianapolis. Well it speaks to how, you know,

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Speaker 1: in the NFL these days, we want everybody to be

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Speaker 1: everything immediately. And Josh was good as a rookie, but

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Speaker 1: he you know, he wasn't great last year and he played,

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Speaker 1: he was beat up. He you know, a lot was

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Speaker 1: going on around. I don't say he wasn't great, but

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Speaker 1: he won't. You know, fans early this year we're starting

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Speaker 1: to is he a franchise guy? As he this? He this?

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Speaker 1: It takes time for the game to slow down to

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Speaker 1: the point where you can be great like he's becoming.

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Speaker 1: Uh So, sometimes it takes a couple of years before

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Speaker 1: guys reach that point of living up to draft expectations.

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Speaker 1: And I get around here, a lot of guys haven't.

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Speaker 1: But Josh is certainly to me looking like the second

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Speaker 1: guy on this franchise that you're gonna build around first

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Speaker 1: being the quarterback, or just to to echo that point,

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Speaker 1: if you go down the hallway, Trent Bulk, he has

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Speaker 1: been around a while and you and I remember and

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Speaker 1: he does too, when first round picks didn't necessarily start

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Speaker 1: as rookies. It took time for them to work their

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Speaker 1: way into the lineup. Um. So you look at Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen in the way that he's progressing right now, I

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Speaker 1: mean he has the look of a long term player. Well, okay,

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Speaker 1: so you'll sacrifice a little bit here and there as

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Speaker 1: he learns to get that for the long term, he's terrific.

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Speaker 1: And here's what's really important about that. I get that

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Speaker 1: they they had Jalen Ramsey and whatever happened happened, and

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Speaker 1: he's not here anymore. Uh. He was a core guy,

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Speaker 1: top five guy, probably a Hall of Fame talent. But

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Speaker 1: what they haven't had on defense in a long time,

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Speaker 1: maybe since Tony brackens Um And it's it's such a

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Speaker 1: different game that's hard to compare Tony and Josh, but

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Speaker 1: they haven't had that guy close to the ball impact

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Speaker 1: pass rusher that you build around, which is really to me,

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Speaker 1: it's much easier and better to build around that than

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Speaker 1: it is to build around a cornerback. So they haven't

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Speaker 1: had that defensive player, Brian, I don't know a guy

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Speaker 1: not the run player that Josh was. I mean that

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Speaker 1: Tony was really good. I'm not he was two d

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Speaker 1: a long time. And I'm not sayingthing against Henderson Strad

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Speaker 1: But this guy's build around player. This guy's a difference maker.

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Speaker 1: He's a game changer. He makes those kinds of place

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Speaker 1: and just to compare and contrast unique and Gokway was

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Speaker 1: a terrific pass rusher, but he didn't do what Josh does.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have Josh his frame, he doesn't have his weight.

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Speaker 1: So Josh is a complete player, and it's worth noting

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Speaker 1: if you haven't heard it. A terrific human being, the

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Speaker 1: really good sign what we've seen in the last three weeks.

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Speaker 1: To make some money. He was wearing that green jacket

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Speaker 1: Good for him. Congratulations to Josh Allen, a FC Defensive

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Speaker 1: Player of the Week. Let's get into big things. Big

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Speaker 1: thing one is need for speed. It is obvious the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars need more downfield threats. Well, what they have is

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Speaker 1: one thing that will certainly help is getting running back

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Speaker 1: James Robinson back on the field. He should be ready. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's not always only a second year player,

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Speaker 1: but he's a tough grinder. I would have played him

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Speaker 1: I expect him to be limited a little bit early

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Speaker 1: in the week. For I'm hearing everything's real passive. Big

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Speaker 1: thing too is Taylor the terrible the Jaguars getting ready

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Speaker 1: Taylor is the best running back in the NFL right

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Speaker 1: now on the field, you have to respect the run

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Speaker 1: this week. And this is really different than what we

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Speaker 1: So this week with the Colts, Jonathan Taylor really have

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Speaker 1: momentum going against the Colts. Yeah, we didn't play well

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Speaker 1: you though, I've always get spooped when you say four

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Speaker 1: very key speak. So in the NFL it's about players,

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Speaker 1: So it's not like the Jaguars didn't think they had

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Speaker 1: not who John, it's how how do they structure an

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Speaker 1: James Robinson certainly helps because of play action, but they've

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Speaker 1: got to figure out Brian Schottenheimer and Darryl Bevil have

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Speaker 1: They won nine six last week. I could easily see

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you scheme for a wide receiver

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Speaker 1: They've got to score points. I think James Robinson helps

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Speaker 1: was an enigma. Was it was a bad day for forever,

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Speaker 1: a bad day for the offense yesterday was we're facing

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Speaker 1: a great defense. We kind of, I don't say we

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Speaker 1: know we're not either having this field about any struggles

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Speaker 1: offensively at all, especially against that defensive book. Um, I

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Speaker 1: think Trevor's growing up as a quarterback and he's becoming

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Speaker 1: a bird productor got a score in the red zone,

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Speaker 1: and how Trevor Lawrence has improved. We will talk about

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Speaker 1: it right here on his own snap shop, his own

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Speaker 1: friendly Let's go to Orlando. We got casey, oh boy,

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Speaker 1: wait back to kick or try out to get the

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Speaker 1: feel good story of three weeks ago feels like a

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Speaker 1: distant memory for special teams magic. Yeah, I don't think

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Speaker 1: we're back to kick or tryouts, certainly. Matthew writes Day

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Speaker 1: On on Sunday was odd. He he had three field

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Speaker 1: goals and without the fifty five yarder that he squeezed

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Speaker 1: over the upright, it's a dramatically different game. He missed

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Speaker 1: these three in a row, and technically to be in

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Speaker 1: Matthew writes, corner a little bit. The first one wasn't

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Speaker 1: going to count anyway, like everybody's saying. He missed two.

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Speaker 1: The Jaguars had a legal procedure there, so that wasn't

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Speaker 1: going to count. So give him a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a break. There'll be still miss three. Um, this is

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Speaker 1: going to be something to watch. H He needs to

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Speaker 1: have two or three clean games in a row so

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Speaker 1: that people start of breathe a side release and said, okay,

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Speaker 1: now he's got it. But I don't think we're down

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Speaker 1: to kicker tryouts yet. I give your kid a chance.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna kick. Should see last year six, Yes, something

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Speaker 1: like that. You don't want to get on the kicker carousel.

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Speaker 1: You want to give this kid time. I mean the

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Speaker 1: two in the final four minutes in London and then

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Speaker 1: look when they lined up to start the fifty five

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Speaker 1: yard field goal on Sunday, I said to Fred Taylor,

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Speaker 1: who was standing next to me, just the right move here, right?

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Speaker 1: Do we know this kid can nail it from fifty

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Speaker 1: five yards? Because if not, you're giving Josh Allen the

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Speaker 1: ball in point blank range right the other Josh Allen. Um,

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Speaker 1: he made it right, So I said, Okay, what's wrong? Um?

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Speaker 1: I think he's good. I think he's a good kicker.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he's a great kicker. I think

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Speaker 1: he's a good kicker. Don't get on the Carassel'll give

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Speaker 1: him time, and I don't think they will. I don't

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Speaker 1: sense talking to anybody that they're worried about him yet,

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Speaker 1: but they won't let him cost them too much. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And this was the hesitation of letting Josh Lambo go.

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Speaker 1: Now you have Matthew Wright. Is there anything better on

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Speaker 1: the street? Probably not, so yeah, stick with him and

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Speaker 1: see how it goes. That's the option you have right now.

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Speaker 1: Such a headgame with kickers. Certainly, there have been kickers,

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Speaker 1: many many kickers who have come in and performed worse

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Speaker 1: and more inconsistently than this guy has. He He has

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Speaker 1: so far very much earned the right to be here

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Speaker 1: when he starts missing extra points. Alright, alright, let's go

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Speaker 1: to Wake four. It's North Carolina. Jeff. How do we

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Speaker 1: think Trevor Lawrence is coming along? Is their hope? Ye?

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Speaker 1: For what? Yeah? This one? Well, there's this undercurrent out

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Speaker 1: there and everybody wants to pick apart every aim and

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Speaker 1: I get it because he's the most high profile player

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Speaker 1: maybe enfranchise history definitely, so everything wants to be picked apart.

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Speaker 1: My answer to this, I actually wrote this question the zone,

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Speaker 1: uh mail bag. Is there hope? He is the hope? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, and there's nothing so far to make you

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Speaker 1: think that he's not going to be great. There. There's

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Speaker 1: a little bit of accurate accuracy stuff, and talking to

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Speaker 1: people who know quarterbacks, he is improving on that. On

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Speaker 1: always got to be aware of as a quarterback. I

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Speaker 1: think he will get better at maintaining that through the

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Speaker 1: course of the season. That's not a given. You have

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Speaker 1: that front. But a lot of it is just awareness,

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Speaker 1: reading the defense, getting more comfortable. I have seen nothing

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Speaker 1: to reiterate what I said earlier, is their hope. He

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Speaker 1: is the hope. I don't care. I mean, I love

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Like a lot of things that are going on.

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Speaker 1: Quarterback lady have that he needs speed. He needs help

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Speaker 1: help him out. He needs speed. They will. They will

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Speaker 1: turn over every rock in the off season. They will

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Speaker 1: look for speed everywhere they can. They will give him weapons,

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Speaker 1: They will accentuate the other guys like Lavisca, who is

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Speaker 1: not a speed guy. And when you have speed on

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Speaker 1: the outside, then Labisca gets to do what he does

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Speaker 1: best in the slot. Well, then you're better in two spots. Right.

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Speaker 1: They'll give him speed and you will see him take

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Speaker 1: a dramatic jump. Three wins for Peyton Manning interceptions his

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Speaker 1: rookie year. He's in the Hall of Fame with two

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl championships. Right, they knew what Peyton Manning was

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Speaker 1: going to be and he became that. I feel the

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Speaker 1: exact same way about this kid. They just have to

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Speaker 1: build this thing for him. Yep. And Travis e ten

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Speaker 1: hopefully coming back next year. And you would hope that

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Speaker 1: they say, all right, Trevor, what would you like here? Here?

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Speaker 1: You can They know what he likes, They know what

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Speaker 1: slash Live Trevor Lawrence, Josh Allen along with a few

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