1 00:00:11,697 --> 00:00:14,977 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcastle make sure 2 00:00:14,977 --> 00:00:17,977 Speaker 1: you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 3 00:00:18,017 --> 00:00:22,177 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. W NBA players say that 4 00:00:22,377 --> 00:00:26,297 Speaker 1: they should be paid what they're owed? What are they owed? Well, 5 00:00:26,577 --> 00:00:28,497 Speaker 1: I'm a guy, so maybe I'm not allowed to weigh 6 00:00:28,497 --> 00:00:31,497 Speaker 1: in on this because it's women's athletics. Although I guess 7 00:00:31,537 --> 00:00:33,297 Speaker 1: I could identify as of them, but that's a whole 8 00:00:33,297 --> 00:00:36,817 Speaker 1: other conversation. Let's bring somebody in here who can bring 9 00:00:36,857 --> 00:00:40,737 Speaker 1: a female perspective to this. Uh and somebody who also 10 00:00:40,937 --> 00:00:44,977 Speaker 1: swam at the Division one level. Paula Scanlon is with us. 11 00:00:45,017 --> 00:00:47,737 Speaker 1: She is of the American Principals Project and was on 12 00:00:47,777 --> 00:00:50,857 Speaker 1: the same team where that guy became a quote girl 13 00:00:50,977 --> 00:00:53,897 Speaker 1: and then won the championship and now Trump has turned 14 00:00:53,897 --> 00:00:56,737 Speaker 1: that around. We'll get into that, but first, so what's 15 00:00:56,817 --> 00:00:59,217 Speaker 1: with the I know you're not a basketball You're you're all. 16 00:00:59,337 --> 00:01:01,777 Speaker 1: You're tall, so maybe you were good at basketball. I 17 00:01:01,777 --> 00:01:04,177 Speaker 1: don't know, but I don't think you played in the 18 00:01:04,297 --> 00:01:08,337 Speaker 1: WNBA to my knowledge. What's with the pay us what 19 00:01:08,457 --> 00:01:11,897 Speaker 1: you owe us? T shirt? As one woman athlete? Looking 20 00:01:11,897 --> 00:01:14,137 Speaker 1: at all these women athletes now in the WNBA. What's 21 00:01:14,177 --> 00:01:14,537 Speaker 1: going on? 22 00:01:16,257 --> 00:01:19,457 Speaker 2: You know, I wish I could understand what was going on. Obviously, 23 00:01:19,497 --> 00:01:23,337 Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark is a huge star and does deserve awards. 24 00:01:22,817 --> 00:01:24,417 Speaker 3: And honor and money with that. 25 00:01:24,817 --> 00:01:27,377 Speaker 2: But we live in a capitalist society, and if there's 26 00:01:27,417 --> 00:01:30,297 Speaker 2: not viewership in the WBA, if there's not money going 27 00:01:30,337 --> 00:01:33,937 Speaker 2: into the WNBA, players can't be paid more. And from 28 00:01:33,937 --> 00:01:37,017 Speaker 2: my understanding is they're heavily subsidized by the NBA and 29 00:01:37,057 --> 00:01:39,817 Speaker 2: other sports leagues. How can they expect to be paid more. 30 00:01:39,857 --> 00:01:42,657 Speaker 2: If they're paid their fair share, their salaries would actually 31 00:01:42,697 --> 00:01:43,337 Speaker 2: get cut. 32 00:01:43,537 --> 00:01:45,217 Speaker 3: So none of this makes any sense to me. 33 00:01:45,617 --> 00:01:48,737 Speaker 2: And I still don't understand what exactly they were protesting 34 00:01:48,777 --> 00:01:51,537 Speaker 2: in this T shirt wearing situation that was happening the 35 00:01:51,577 --> 00:01:53,497 Speaker 2: other week. And to be honest, I've never watched a 36 00:01:53,497 --> 00:01:55,457 Speaker 2: single WNBA game in my entire life. 37 00:01:55,697 --> 00:01:58,937 Speaker 1: Really really interesting, I haven't either, But I don't know. 38 00:01:58,977 --> 00:02:01,137 Speaker 1: I felt like, maybe you know, girl power, like you 39 00:02:01,137 --> 00:02:04,377 Speaker 1: would decide that you got to watch the female athletes. 40 00:02:04,537 --> 00:02:07,377 Speaker 1: It is. It is funny because now I see I 41 00:02:07,417 --> 00:02:09,857 Speaker 1: don't know if you ever see this on Twitter X. 42 00:02:10,617 --> 00:02:14,537 Speaker 1: Most of the clips circulating of WNBA like highlight clips 43 00:02:14,537 --> 00:02:19,137 Speaker 1: that you'll see are actually women in the WNBA, like 44 00:02:19,177 --> 00:02:22,097 Speaker 1: shooting the ball off the top of the backboard, or 45 00:02:22,817 --> 00:02:25,177 Speaker 1: you know, missing three layups or four layups in a 46 00:02:25,257 --> 00:02:28,457 Speaker 1: row or stuff like that. So it's it's getting talked 47 00:02:28,497 --> 00:02:30,897 Speaker 1: about more than it has in the past. But somehow 48 00:02:31,697 --> 00:02:36,537 Speaker 1: it has become something of a point of contention among people. 49 00:02:36,577 --> 00:02:39,537 Speaker 1: Right there seems to be some irritation that I don't 50 00:02:39,577 --> 00:02:42,097 Speaker 1: know at the sense of entitlement that these players have, 51 00:02:42,177 --> 00:02:44,337 Speaker 1: but they're supposed to, Like, I know, professional I know 52 00:02:44,417 --> 00:02:48,537 Speaker 1: guys who play professional lacrosse, and I think they make 53 00:02:48,977 --> 00:02:50,697 Speaker 1: you know, most of them have other jobs, so that 54 00:02:50,737 --> 00:02:52,217 Speaker 1: tells you all you need to know. Like they play 55 00:02:52,297 --> 00:02:55,897 Speaker 1: seasonal professional lacrosse and they make almost no money doing this, 56 00:02:56,097 --> 00:02:57,817 Speaker 1: very little money, and they don't say, pay us what 57 00:02:57,897 --> 00:02:58,417 Speaker 1: you owe us. 58 00:03:00,377 --> 00:03:01,537 Speaker 3: That's actually so funny. 59 00:03:01,857 --> 00:03:03,417 Speaker 2: I think I know a couple of guys that play 60 00:03:03,457 --> 00:03:06,777 Speaker 2: professional lacrosse as well. I mean that it shows that 61 00:03:06,857 --> 00:03:08,937 Speaker 2: if you want to do your sport, you absolutely should. 62 00:03:08,937 --> 00:03:10,617 Speaker 2: I think women should have an opera unity to have 63 00:03:10,657 --> 00:03:13,817 Speaker 2: professional leagues. I think the WNBA existing is obviously a 64 00:03:13,857 --> 00:03:17,817 Speaker 2: good thing. I'm always here to advocate for women only leagues, 65 00:03:18,217 --> 00:03:20,937 Speaker 2: but that being said, we can't just make money. You 66 00:03:20,977 --> 00:03:23,417 Speaker 2: can get free handouts. You can't get free payouts from 67 00:03:23,457 --> 00:03:26,537 Speaker 2: the government for this, And that's exactly what this is, 68 00:03:26,617 --> 00:03:28,977 Speaker 2: is just the liberal mentality that everything needs to be 69 00:03:28,977 --> 00:03:29,977 Speaker 2: handed to you for free. 70 00:03:30,297 --> 00:03:32,897 Speaker 3: Because you want something, someone has to give it to you. 71 00:03:33,217 --> 00:03:36,937 Speaker 2: And unfortunately for the WMA, that's not going to happen. 72 00:03:37,017 --> 00:03:39,337 Speaker 3: And it's just so upsetting to see that. 73 00:03:39,377 --> 00:03:41,777 Speaker 2: And they're discouraging other female athletes, and they make female 74 00:03:41,777 --> 00:03:45,777 Speaker 2: athletes look whiny and complainy. Just go in be good athletes, 75 00:03:45,817 --> 00:03:48,537 Speaker 2: become a Caitlin Clerk, become a key player. And many 76 00:03:48,537 --> 00:03:51,817 Speaker 2: of these great WNBA players, like Kitlyn Clerk, like some 77 00:03:51,817 --> 00:03:53,857 Speaker 2: of the other stars, they have a lot of money 78 00:03:53,857 --> 00:03:57,457 Speaker 2: that they make in sponsorships and deals that far outweigh 79 00:03:57,497 --> 00:03:58,217 Speaker 2: any amount that. 80 00:03:58,417 --> 00:04:00,537 Speaker 3: The league could pay them. And that's the same thing 81 00:04:00,697 --> 00:04:02,057 Speaker 3: goes for male athletes as well. 82 00:04:02,137 --> 00:04:04,617 Speaker 2: So I feel like if you're so concerned about your pay, 83 00:04:05,057 --> 00:04:08,057 Speaker 2: either yes, you have to get another job, or you 84 00:04:08,177 --> 00:04:10,017 Speaker 2: have to find sponsorships. And there are a lot of 85 00:04:10,137 --> 00:04:12,257 Speaker 2: places that are willing to sponsor these athletes. It's not 86 00:04:12,297 --> 00:04:15,137 Speaker 2: like they were starving and not able to survive on 87 00:04:15,137 --> 00:04:16,057 Speaker 2: their current salaries. 88 00:04:16,377 --> 00:04:20,697 Speaker 1: So now you you were on the swim team, right, 89 00:04:20,737 --> 00:04:22,617 Speaker 1: the same swim team as Riley Gaines, and the swim 90 00:04:22,657 --> 00:04:27,297 Speaker 1: team that was that became the team with us what's 91 00:04:27,337 --> 00:04:31,857 Speaker 1: the what's his name? Leah Thomas formerly something else Thomas, right, 92 00:04:32,417 --> 00:04:35,097 Speaker 1: the guy who became the girl who's not really a girl, 93 00:04:35,097 --> 00:04:36,497 Speaker 1: but he's swimming against you guys, and he ends up 94 00:04:36,537 --> 00:04:39,297 Speaker 1: like winning the national championship the whole thing. Trump has 95 00:04:39,377 --> 00:04:40,977 Speaker 1: bring everyone up to speed on this one, because this 96 00:04:41,017 --> 00:04:43,657 Speaker 1: has got to feel like life has come full circle 97 00:04:43,697 --> 00:04:46,297 Speaker 1: and maybe finally justice at some level or it begins 98 00:04:46,297 --> 00:04:48,937 Speaker 1: to be done here. What did Trump do? It looks 99 00:04:49,017 --> 00:04:51,177 Speaker 1: like things have changed with you, penn. 100 00:04:52,657 --> 00:04:53,577 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly that. 101 00:04:53,777 --> 00:04:56,617 Speaker 2: I mean the Trump administration pulled federal funding from the 102 00:04:56,697 --> 00:04:59,697 Speaker 2: University of Pennsylvania for not complying with Title nine. I mean, yeah, 103 00:04:59,817 --> 00:05:01,697 Speaker 2: they led a dude on my women's swim team in 104 00:05:01,697 --> 00:05:06,097 Speaker 2: our locker room eighteen times per week, insanity, rightfully, so 105 00:05:06,257 --> 00:05:09,257 Speaker 2: they were pulled with federal funding. But the Trump administration 106 00:05:09,417 --> 00:05:11,777 Speaker 2: then said, okay, well, if you're willing to change your policies, 107 00:05:11,817 --> 00:05:14,777 Speaker 2: we can have a conversation. The University of Pennsylvania then 108 00:05:14,777 --> 00:05:18,417 Speaker 2: caved had a discussion with the Trump administration said, we 109 00:05:18,497 --> 00:05:20,857 Speaker 2: will comply with titleline. We are going to change our 110 00:05:20,857 --> 00:05:23,777 Speaker 2: policies to properly reflect that. I mean, they should have 111 00:05:23,817 --> 00:05:26,137 Speaker 2: been doing that to begin with, but here we are. 112 00:05:26,697 --> 00:05:29,457 Speaker 2: Another thing is they agreed to change the record boards. 113 00:05:29,617 --> 00:05:32,577 Speaker 2: The University of Pennsylvania no longer has Leah Thomas as 114 00:05:32,617 --> 00:05:35,017 Speaker 2: a record holder on the women's team. And then on 115 00:05:35,017 --> 00:05:37,217 Speaker 2: top of that, they were forced to send us an apology. 116 00:05:37,457 --> 00:05:41,257 Speaker 2: It was not quite an apology that I would deem acceptable, 117 00:05:41,537 --> 00:05:43,737 Speaker 2: but having to do that all together makes them admit 118 00:05:43,817 --> 00:05:45,497 Speaker 2: that they were in the wrong. And so this was 119 00:05:45,537 --> 00:05:48,857 Speaker 2: a great historic win. And honestly, we've never seen anything 120 00:05:48,897 --> 00:05:50,737 Speaker 2: like this. We've never seen any of the universities that 121 00:05:50,777 --> 00:05:53,897 Speaker 2: have put female athletes through this clawback and change their 122 00:05:53,937 --> 00:05:55,897 Speaker 2: mind and do any of this. So it's a great 123 00:05:55,937 --> 00:05:58,217 Speaker 2: first start. But obviously a lot more work needs to 124 00:05:58,217 --> 00:06:01,097 Speaker 2: be done. And there are still universities that are allowing 125 00:06:01,137 --> 00:06:03,017 Speaker 2: men onto their women's sports team, so we have to 126 00:06:03,057 --> 00:06:03,897 Speaker 2: fight against them as well. 127 00:06:03,937 --> 00:06:06,937 Speaker 1: So this is still happening. There are places that what 128 00:06:07,097 --> 00:06:09,777 Speaker 1: are are they essentially waiting to see if the trumpet 129 00:06:09,777 --> 00:06:13,337 Speaker 1: minute drops the hammer on their athletics program or their 130 00:06:13,377 --> 00:06:16,537 Speaker 1: funding for the whole university. Is Trump having to play 131 00:06:16,537 --> 00:06:19,737 Speaker 1: whack a mole with this issue honestly. 132 00:06:19,457 --> 00:06:20,017 Speaker 3: A little bit. 133 00:06:20,057 --> 00:06:22,777 Speaker 2: I mean, we've seen that, but we've also seen other issues. 134 00:06:22,817 --> 00:06:25,937 Speaker 2: I mean, I know Harvard, not necessarily with a transgender issue, 135 00:06:25,937 --> 00:06:28,457 Speaker 2: although they probably should go after Harvard for that as well, 136 00:06:28,497 --> 00:06:31,777 Speaker 2: because Lea Thomas actually holds three records at the Harvard 137 00:06:31,777 --> 00:06:34,097 Speaker 2: pool as well that are still up on the board, 138 00:06:34,097 --> 00:06:36,577 Speaker 2: and you can go over to Cambridge, Massachusetts and see 139 00:06:36,657 --> 00:06:38,617 Speaker 2: Leah Thomas on the women's side of the record board. 140 00:06:38,657 --> 00:06:40,897 Speaker 3: But they've pushed back at. 141 00:06:40,817 --> 00:06:43,377 Speaker 2: The Trump administration. They're not willing to negotiate. So it's 142 00:06:43,417 --> 00:06:44,617 Speaker 2: really dependent on school. 143 00:06:45,137 --> 00:06:45,377 Speaker 3: We know. 144 00:06:45,497 --> 00:06:48,777 Speaker 2: San Jose State also infamously allowed a male athlete on 145 00:06:48,777 --> 00:06:51,497 Speaker 2: their volleyball team. The Trump administration hasn't been able to 146 00:06:51,537 --> 00:06:54,177 Speaker 2: get them to either apologize to their female athletes or 147 00:06:54,497 --> 00:06:56,257 Speaker 2: correct some of the records. I'm not sure how you 148 00:06:56,377 --> 00:06:59,657 Speaker 2: quite do that in volleyball, given that it's a team sport, 149 00:06:59,817 --> 00:07:02,697 Speaker 2: but there is work to be done to apologize to 150 00:07:02,737 --> 00:07:05,897 Speaker 2: the female athletes over forced to enduing this. So again, 151 00:07:05,977 --> 00:07:07,817 Speaker 2: I am grateful for their leadership. I think they've done 152 00:07:07,817 --> 00:07:10,217 Speaker 2: a really, really great job on all of this, but 153 00:07:10,457 --> 00:07:12,057 Speaker 2: there's still a lot of work to be done, and 154 00:07:12,177 --> 00:07:15,617 Speaker 2: unfortunately we weren't able to pass federal legislation, so the 155 00:07:15,617 --> 00:07:18,417 Speaker 2: executive orders and the Trump administration going after them, that's 156 00:07:18,457 --> 00:07:19,697 Speaker 2: really what we're stuck with here. 157 00:07:20,217 --> 00:07:23,617 Speaker 1: Our sponsor here is Preborn. Preborn is an incredible nonprofit 158 00:07:23,617 --> 00:07:26,297 Speaker 1: that is saving the lives of unborn babies every single 159 00:07:26,377 --> 00:07:31,377 Speaker 1: day across America. Preborn gives women an alternative to planned parenthood, abortion, 160 00:07:32,017 --> 00:07:34,017 Speaker 1: these things that are pushed so much on them by 161 00:07:34,057 --> 00:07:36,377 Speaker 1: society as a quick fix. But we know it's tragic 162 00:07:36,417 --> 00:07:39,337 Speaker 1: when women go down that path. Preborn says, hold on 163 00:07:39,377 --> 00:07:42,457 Speaker 1: a second. Let's offer you love and support and life 164 00:07:42,537 --> 00:07:45,137 Speaker 1: for your baby, and we'll start this process with a 165 00:07:45,177 --> 00:07:49,137 Speaker 1: free ultrasound. Twenty eight dollars at a preborn clinic is 166 00:07:49,137 --> 00:07:50,857 Speaker 1: the cost of one of these ultrasounds. So if you 167 00:07:50,857 --> 00:07:53,657 Speaker 1: can donate twenty eight dollars a month, you can help 168 00:07:53,697 --> 00:07:56,297 Speaker 1: save the life of a tiny baby and bring all 169 00:07:56,337 --> 00:07:59,857 Speaker 1: those blessings to that mother to be as well. Each month. 170 00:08:00,217 --> 00:08:02,697 Speaker 1: Twenty eight dollars a month would be fantastic. Twenty eight 171 00:08:02,737 --> 00:08:06,337 Speaker 1: dollars once would be amazing. Whatever you can give to Preborn, 172 00:08:06,457 --> 00:08:09,897 Speaker 1: please to donate securely. Go to preborn dot com slash 173 00:08:10,097 --> 00:08:12,617 Speaker 1: talk that's preborn dot com slash b U c K, 174 00:08:12,977 --> 00:08:15,577 Speaker 1: or pick up your phone dial pound two five zero 175 00:08:15,657 --> 00:08:17,897 Speaker 1: and say the word baby. That's pound two five zero, 176 00:08:18,497 --> 00:08:22,817 Speaker 1: say baby sponsored by Preborn. What do you think about 177 00:08:22,817 --> 00:08:26,617 Speaker 1: the Trump administration weighing in on the mascots? 178 00:08:26,977 --> 00:08:27,097 Speaker 2: What? 179 00:08:27,177 --> 00:08:29,297 Speaker 1: I have no idea? What is the upen mascot? It's 180 00:08:29,297 --> 00:08:31,057 Speaker 1: probably some kind it's like an animal or something, right, 181 00:08:31,057 --> 00:08:32,897 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the safe thing is it's the. 182 00:08:35,777 --> 00:08:37,617 Speaker 3: Quakers? Yes? 183 00:08:38,337 --> 00:08:42,137 Speaker 1: How do the how the Quakers a peaceful people? Usually 184 00:08:42,177 --> 00:08:45,057 Speaker 1: not what you'd think about as who you would name 185 00:08:45,137 --> 00:08:50,097 Speaker 1: your like ferocious athletic program after after as everyone. So 186 00:08:50,137 --> 00:08:52,457 Speaker 1: I guess everyone just thinks that that one's okay, because 187 00:08:52,497 --> 00:08:53,057 Speaker 1: who cares. 188 00:08:54,017 --> 00:08:56,297 Speaker 2: I mean, I think it was because of the Pennsylvania 189 00:08:56,417 --> 00:08:57,137 Speaker 2: was colonized. 190 00:08:57,257 --> 00:09:03,137 Speaker 1: Oh no, I have no idea, like why would they 191 00:09:03,257 --> 00:09:05,337 Speaker 1: choose that as the It just seems like such a 192 00:09:05,817 --> 00:09:09,617 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's like if your mascot was like 193 00:09:09,617 --> 00:09:11,457 Speaker 1: the men in or something. It's like wait a second, 194 00:09:11,537 --> 00:09:13,497 Speaker 1: like why that's a mascot? I don't know. It seems 195 00:09:13,497 --> 00:09:15,977 Speaker 1: a little I did not know that Upen is the Quaker. 196 00:09:16,057 --> 00:09:19,617 Speaker 1: So that's interesting. But you know, the big one right 197 00:09:19,617 --> 00:09:25,857 Speaker 1: now is changing back the Washington Commanders to the Redskins, 198 00:09:26,617 --> 00:09:29,897 Speaker 1: and how this is something that a lot of people 199 00:09:29,897 --> 00:09:33,377 Speaker 1: feel very passionately about. What do you think about this debate? 200 00:09:34,577 --> 00:09:36,857 Speaker 3: You know, honestly, I don't really care. I'm going to 201 00:09:36,897 --> 00:09:37,297 Speaker 3: be honest. 202 00:09:37,297 --> 00:09:39,177 Speaker 2: I think that the bigger thing is the reason that 203 00:09:39,217 --> 00:09:42,337 Speaker 2: the Redskins originally had to change their name was because 204 00:09:42,337 --> 00:09:46,097 Speaker 2: of this liberal ideology that's saying everything is racist. I 205 00:09:46,137 --> 00:09:48,337 Speaker 2: mean I saw this firsthand in college, where they were 206 00:09:48,337 --> 00:09:51,057 Speaker 2: tearing statues down if it was a white man that 207 00:09:51,137 --> 00:09:54,657 Speaker 2: had owned slaves somewhere at one point in history, or 208 00:09:55,177 --> 00:09:55,737 Speaker 2: things like that. 209 00:09:55,817 --> 00:09:57,537 Speaker 3: Right, we've seen this mass thing. 210 00:09:57,417 --> 00:10:00,697 Speaker 2: Where anyone who's racist is gone, and that was what 211 00:10:00,737 --> 00:10:02,297 Speaker 2: was going on with a lot of these sports teams 212 00:10:02,297 --> 00:10:05,217 Speaker 2: and mascots. Is anything that was deemed to be racist 213 00:10:05,457 --> 00:10:08,897 Speaker 2: or insensitive or not politically correct needed to be changed. 214 00:10:08,977 --> 00:10:11,337 Speaker 2: I think that the wash Rington Redskins having their name 215 00:10:11,417 --> 00:10:14,457 Speaker 2: change was just part of that entire conversation. And so 216 00:10:14,537 --> 00:10:17,177 Speaker 2: I think Trump is just fighting back to that, which 217 00:10:17,217 --> 00:10:19,417 Speaker 2: I think he should. But to be fair, I don't 218 00:10:19,457 --> 00:10:22,577 Speaker 2: really care. I that's not my team. If it was 219 00:10:22,617 --> 00:10:24,377 Speaker 2: my If it was my team, I probably would care 220 00:10:24,377 --> 00:10:26,537 Speaker 2: a little bit more, But it has no effect really 221 00:10:26,577 --> 00:10:27,737 Speaker 2: on my life personally. 222 00:10:28,177 --> 00:10:30,097 Speaker 3: And also I thought it was really funny when they 223 00:10:30,137 --> 00:10:30,577 Speaker 3: were the. 224 00:10:30,497 --> 00:10:32,857 Speaker 2: Washington football team for a season or two, if you 225 00:10:32,897 --> 00:10:36,577 Speaker 2: remember that, not a whole debacle was I don't understand 226 00:10:36,577 --> 00:10:38,697 Speaker 2: why they took them so long to even change the name. 227 00:10:38,937 --> 00:10:41,857 Speaker 2: I think that they're just creating drama and it's just 228 00:10:42,017 --> 00:10:43,457 Speaker 2: a kind of a joke at this point. 229 00:10:44,137 --> 00:10:47,377 Speaker 1: Hmmm, yeah, I'm I don't think I anyone expected that 230 00:10:47,457 --> 00:10:49,137 Speaker 1: Trump was going to weigh in on this so heavily 231 00:10:49,177 --> 00:10:51,577 Speaker 1: over the weekend with your tweet. It is funny to 232 00:10:51,617 --> 00:10:54,817 Speaker 1: see some of the old some of the mascots that 233 00:10:54,857 --> 00:10:58,337 Speaker 1: have changed just because Also, I mean, you swam against Dartmouth. 234 00:10:58,377 --> 00:11:00,377 Speaker 1: This is one to go from I think it was 235 00:11:00,417 --> 00:11:05,097 Speaker 1: the Indians right to the Big Green. I don't even know. 236 00:11:05,257 --> 00:11:07,577 Speaker 1: Is that like their quadrangle? What is the Big Green? 237 00:11:10,137 --> 00:11:13,857 Speaker 4: I have no idea, but apparently the Dartmouths mascot is 238 00:11:13,897 --> 00:11:17,537 Speaker 4: also Keggy the Keg or something else their unofficial mascot. 239 00:11:17,817 --> 00:11:19,897 Speaker 4: I was told that by some friends I had that 240 00:11:20,217 --> 00:11:22,577 Speaker 4: swam at Dartmouth too, and I was like, are we 241 00:11:22,617 --> 00:11:23,297 Speaker 4: being serious? 242 00:11:23,537 --> 00:11:26,897 Speaker 3: Mascots in general are completely a joke. I mean, who 243 00:11:27,057 --> 00:11:27,697 Speaker 3: picks these? 244 00:11:27,857 --> 00:11:29,697 Speaker 2: The fact that I had to be a Quaker for 245 00:11:29,737 --> 00:11:33,297 Speaker 2: four years and people would bring Quaker oats and say 246 00:11:33,297 --> 00:11:35,897 Speaker 2: this is our mascot. I mean, truly, the entire thing 247 00:11:35,977 --> 00:11:38,897 Speaker 2: is a joke. But again, I think Trump is the 248 00:11:38,977 --> 00:11:42,817 Speaker 2: master troller. He's always hilarious. I love his tweets. I mean, 249 00:11:42,857 --> 00:11:45,697 Speaker 2: I love him as president. He's done wonderful things as president. 250 00:11:45,897 --> 00:11:48,177 Speaker 2: But I think this man also has a wonderful career 251 00:11:48,217 --> 00:11:50,057 Speaker 2: going for him in comedy if he ever chooses to 252 00:11:50,057 --> 00:11:52,577 Speaker 2: go down that route. So I think this is just 253 00:11:52,617 --> 00:11:54,977 Speaker 2: another example of him doing that. And I'm living for 254 00:11:55,017 --> 00:11:55,697 Speaker 2: the entertainment. 255 00:11:55,817 --> 00:11:57,377 Speaker 1: What do you think is speak of entertainment? What do 256 00:11:57,377 --> 00:12:02,097 Speaker 1: you think of Colbert? Are you a late night TV watcher? 257 00:12:02,137 --> 00:12:03,577 Speaker 1: Did you watch any of these shows? I mean, I 258 00:12:03,577 --> 00:12:06,137 Speaker 1: assume you watch Guttfeld sometimes, but did you ever watch 259 00:12:06,297 --> 00:12:10,777 Speaker 1: like You're you might be too young for Lenno or 260 00:12:11,017 --> 00:12:13,337 Speaker 1: any of that stuff. But what do you think about 261 00:12:13,337 --> 00:12:14,417 Speaker 1: Colbert getting canceled? 262 00:12:15,657 --> 00:12:17,457 Speaker 2: I mean, I think it sounds like it was a 263 00:12:17,497 --> 00:12:20,057 Speaker 2: financial decision, it had nothing to do with anything else. 264 00:12:20,097 --> 00:12:22,497 Speaker 2: But yet we have people that are melting down calling 265 00:12:22,577 --> 00:12:26,177 Speaker 2: this politically motivated. I think bad ratings are bad ratings. 266 00:12:26,497 --> 00:12:29,577 Speaker 2: We speak again back to the original conversation about the WNBA. 267 00:12:29,657 --> 00:12:31,737 Speaker 2: We live in a capitalist society, and if your show 268 00:12:31,817 --> 00:12:35,297 Speaker 2: is not producing, then it's not producing. And to be honest, 269 00:12:35,297 --> 00:12:37,937 Speaker 2: I don't think I've met a single person that tells 270 00:12:37,977 --> 00:12:41,337 Speaker 2: me they've watched his show truly. And I talk to 271 00:12:41,377 --> 00:12:43,217 Speaker 2: a lot of my parents' friends that are in a 272 00:12:43,257 --> 00:12:45,937 Speaker 2: generation that are maybe you know, grew up watching that, 273 00:12:46,257 --> 00:12:47,897 Speaker 2: and I have not heard from a single person that 274 00:12:47,977 --> 00:12:49,857 Speaker 2: is truly a fan of his. So it doesn't surprise 275 00:12:49,897 --> 00:12:52,137 Speaker 2: me that his ratings are not there and the money 276 00:12:52,217 --> 00:12:53,937 Speaker 2: coming in for the show isn't there either. 277 00:12:54,817 --> 00:12:56,177 Speaker 1: So what are you focused on these days? At the 278 00:12:56,217 --> 00:13:00,137 Speaker 1: American Principles Project, we are working. 279 00:13:00,217 --> 00:13:03,257 Speaker 2: To really defend family rights, and obviously the women's sports 280 00:13:03,297 --> 00:13:05,777 Speaker 2: issue is a big one, but also transgender ideology. 281 00:13:05,817 --> 00:13:07,897 Speaker 3: I think we have a lot of work to be done. 282 00:13:08,777 --> 00:13:10,977 Speaker 2: The Trump administration has been a partner on all of 283 00:13:10,977 --> 00:13:14,617 Speaker 2: these things, but we've been working to just again continue to. 284 00:13:14,537 --> 00:13:15,777 Speaker 3: Defend women in sports. 285 00:13:16,137 --> 00:13:19,057 Speaker 2: Obviously, because we don't have federal legislation, a lot of 286 00:13:19,057 --> 00:13:22,497 Speaker 2: these states are still allowing men to compete in women's 287 00:13:22,497 --> 00:13:24,537 Speaker 2: sports and putting girls in danger, but also not even 288 00:13:24,617 --> 00:13:27,537 Speaker 2: just sports, but also in bathrooms and locker rooms, and 289 00:13:27,617 --> 00:13:30,977 Speaker 2: so we're staying vigilant on the fight. We've made great 290 00:13:30,977 --> 00:13:33,497 Speaker 2: progress again and I think the culture's really shifted on that, 291 00:13:33,537 --> 00:13:37,577 Speaker 2: but unfortunately, until it's completely done and never happening again, 292 00:13:37,697 --> 00:13:39,657 Speaker 2: there are people that still have to stand up for it. 293 00:13:39,737 --> 00:13:41,937 Speaker 2: So I've been grateful to be part of doing that, 294 00:13:42,217 --> 00:13:44,737 Speaker 2: and I'm grateful for the people that have joined us 295 00:13:44,737 --> 00:13:47,497 Speaker 2: on this journey and again so much support culturally on 296 00:13:47,537 --> 00:13:48,217 Speaker 2: this issue. 297 00:13:48,377 --> 00:13:50,497 Speaker 3: Men don't belong in women's sports. It's really that simple. 298 00:13:51,697 --> 00:13:54,137 Speaker 1: Couldn't agree more with that, appreciate being with us. Paul, 299 00:13:54,257 --> 00:13:56,417 Speaker 1: thank you so much and we will talk to you soon. 300 00:13:57,097 --> 00:13:57,897 Speaker 3: Thank you.