WEBVTT - Garth Brooks 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:06.200 I Heart Radio presents Inside the Studio I'm your host 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:10.480 Joe Lee. This time out, we Rode tripped down to 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:13.760 Nashville to talk with Garth Brooks. Garth told me about 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:16.880 volume three of his anthology series, which includes his new 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:19.920 Triple Live album, and we also talked about his recent 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:24.240 concert for eighty four thousand people at Notre Dame Stadium, 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:26.800 and he shared details about the stadium tour he's kicking 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:30.040 off next March, as well as the studio album he's 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:32.600 releasing next year, which he hasn't gotten around to giving 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:35.160 a name to yet, despite the fact that he released 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:37.760 a single from it, a rocking bit of honky talk 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:46.960 called All Day Long last June. Right now, the basic 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:49.879 working title is the Fun Album. Just a lot of 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:52.639 fun on this record. It is untitled on Amazon. Yes, 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:55.680 it is untitled drives them Crazy because everything's data they 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:58.000 know exactly, but this one just hasn't been named yet 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:01.960 so far. It's the Fun Album because it's all about fun. 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:04.399 And there's a cowboys song on there, a song called 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:07.360 That's what Cowboys Do, and there's a song on there 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:11.400 called the Party Girl, and just talking about how Marty 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:14.759 grow for us guys, I've never heard this term before. 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:17.840 It's just a honky talk and Halloween and that's what 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:20.360 it is. And so it's just fun. It's real cage 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:22.720 in varioushigh to go. But ye, at the same time, 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.360 it's real country, and I think that's what I do. 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:31.279 So my thing is, you never chase whatever is cool today. 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:35.839 Congratulations for who's cool, But you've got to be true 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:38.800 to who you are, because the last thing you want 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.679 to do is walk out that They were going, Okay, 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:45.080 let's go over this. Who am I today? The greatest 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:47.800 gift I've ever been given by the people that come 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:49.880 to see us is they have allowed me to be 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:53.480 me and be okay, they recognize you as a human being. 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:56.120 At the greatest compliment I read I was walking with 0:01:56.800 --> 0:02:01.320 the four Ladies are Gonna Remain Nameless? Was walking with him, 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:03.640 and one of the girls, the one that has never 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:07.960 said anything, she goes. You know, you always just appeared 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:10.400 to me as one of us that just got lucky. 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:13.000 Sweetest thing anybody has ever said to me, Just one 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:14.800 of us that got lucky. Because that's how I feel. 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:17.840 I mean, You're still you, You're still a regular person. Yeah, 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:20.760 I'm still the the guy that's just full of flaws. 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:28.040 That's okay. We met Garth at the house where he 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:31.200 has his offices and also to studios, both of them 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:34.080 brand new for himself and his wife, Tricia Yearwood. He 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:36.359 came to the door holding a baseball bat and wearing 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:39.120 batting gloves, and he got us something to drink right away, 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:42.120 made sure we were settled in. So for a superstar 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:46.280 who's told tens and tens of millions of albums and 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:48.960 also set a record for North America with his last tour, 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.919 he did seem pretty much like a regular guy. Of course, 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:56.920 he's not. When he greeted us, he had stepped out 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:00.120 not from backyard batting practice, but from working on the 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:04.080 upcoming CBS television special of that concert at Notre Dame 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:08.000 Stadium he'd played just a few days before. And as 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:11.200 for that bat Brooks is not just a baseball fan. 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:14.880 During his thirteen year retirement from touring, he reported for 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:18.720 spring training three times with the Padres, the Mets, and 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:21.760 the Kansas City Royals. If you're keeping score at home, 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.000 he went one for thirty nine with the Padres and 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:28.880 the Mets, which is a point zero to five average, 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:32.200 But he did get one hit with the Royals. His 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:36.360 music stats are just a little bit better. He's the 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:39.640 best selling artist of the sound Scan era. He's tallied 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:43.800 more than seventy million in the US since when sound 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:48.160 Scan started, and in fact, sixteen point six million of 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:51.360 those sales are of his second album alone, Roping the Wind, 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.600 holds the title as the best selling album of the 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:59.920 sound Scan era. Two years ago, the Recording Industry Association 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:03.800 and of America certified Brooks as the first artist with 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:09.320 seven Diamond albums that's ten times platinum or ten million apiece. 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:13.400 And when he did return to touring in fourteen, he 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:16.800 did it in a big way. His three year world 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:20.039 tour with Tricia Yearwood sold more than six point three 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:23.520 million tickets. He played three hundred and ninety concerts in 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:27.600 seventy nine cities. Brooks went into arenas, playing four or 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:30.279 five shows, and most of them sometimes filling them for 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:33.599 two shows a day, and finishing with seven nights in 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:38.640 Nashville at the Bridgetone Arena. It stands as the biggest 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:43.960 North American tour in history. When Brooks tours next year, 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:47.120 he'll be marking the thirtieth anniversary of his self titled 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:50.400 debut album, which pretty much laid out all the ways 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:53.600 that he'd both draw on country tradition and open up 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:56.920 the new frontiers that helped create the context for most 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:00.279 of country music today. Brooks grew up on country, but 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:03.080 also on seventies hard rock like Kiss and Queen and 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:07.159 singer songwriters like James Taylor and Dan Fogelberg. For sure. 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:10.080 You can hear that singer songwriter influence on the Dance 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:20.160 from that first album, Oh Memory, the Dance, Sweet Share 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:28.200 to Me, the Stars of the Oryma. You can hear 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:31.320 it so clearly that Brooks hesitated to even record it, 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.440 worrying that it wasn't country enough, and then watching it 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:37.680 go to number one on the country charts. But if 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:40.799 you give them more straight ahead country weeper Alabama Clay 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:43.520 a headphones listen, you can hear the rock side of 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:49.599 Garth as well. His nag was red as Alabama Clay, 0:05:51.520 --> 0:06:01.640 but the CITs God Away. He's got a factory, as 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:05.280 he explains in the first volume of Anthology at Deluxe, 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:08.479 repackaging of his first five albums in a hardcover book 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.640 that tells the stories behind each of the songs. The 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:15.640 foundation of Alabama Clay Brooks calls it the carpet is 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:19.240 a guitar running through a Rockman headphone amp, an invention 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:22.960 of Tom Schultz of the band Boston. It pretty much 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:27.720 makes your guitar sound like Boston. If you listen to 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:31.240 Alabama Clay with all the harmonies. Says Garth, here comes Journey, 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:34.000 here comes Queen. What you're singing about his country as 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:36.560 a biscuit. That is Garth talking, not me. I don't 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:39.240 use phrases like country as a biscuit, but anyway, what 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:42.000 you're singing about his country as a biscuit. But it works. 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:45.080 Even if you put the Boston Big crunch in, it 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:47.680 is still going to be country, so you can turn 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:52.040 up your guitar and still be country. Those lessons resonate 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:56.520 country music to this day. What Brooks accomplished building off 0:06:56.520 --> 0:07:00.120 that first album is pretty much mind boggling. My just 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:04.440 the sales, which are legit mind boggling, but the music itself. 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:07.919 He could draw in country storytelling tradition, in which the 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:11.280 narrative and detail of a feature film can be packed 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:14.280 into three minutes of music, to sing about both vengeful 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:18.000 wives and murderous husbands in songs like the Thunder Rolls 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:20.480 and Papa Love Mama. But he also sang about equal 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:24.520 rights regardless of race, gender or sexuality, and we shall 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:37.840 be free when the last chop cries pulled acrosststum Brand. 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:40.640 He made Billy Joel sound like the Eagles when he 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.680 covered Joel Shameless. Then he added fiddle to an Arrowsmith song, 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:53.480 the Fever. A few years later he did classic country 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:55.360 like two of a Kind working on a full house 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:58.920 in American Hockey Talk Bar Association. But he also got 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:02.000 all singer songwriter in ballads like the River and really 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:07.160 that's just scratching surface. No, his dream is like a 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:12.280 river ever changed, and that he's a flow, and the 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:17.040 dreamer's just a vessel that must follow where it goes, 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:21.520 trying to learn from what's behind you. I haven't even 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:24.560 mentioned Friends in Low Places yet, for the fact that 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:27.560 Garth had a number one country hit with a cover 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:30.240 of Bob Dylan's to Make You Feel My Love ten 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:34.120 years before Adell got a hold of it, Blown In 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:53.360 and the whole world game out off You Make You Feel. 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:57.360 The anthology series put together by Brooks with help from 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:00.400 Warren Zanes, the former guitarist of a band called the 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:02.760 Del Fuegos, who went on to write a really good 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:06.080 biography of Tom Petty a few years ago, functions as 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:09.360 an oral history of Garth's life and career told by 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:12.880 Garth and those alongside him. The latest volume, again a 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:16.680 hardcover book packed with five c ds, is particularly rich 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:20.720 and well constructed. It tells the story of Garth's growth 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:24.920 as a live performer, and it begins with the HBO 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:28.920 concert broadcast, HBO's first ever with a country performer, when 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:33.240 Brooks played to a crowd of nine hundred and eighty 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:37.800 thousand people in Central Park in New York City, and 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:41.040 then it goes back to his childhood, his college years, 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:45.480 his first stabs at playing music professionally, and his explosive 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:49.320 popularity in the nineteen nineties when his albums, live shows, 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:53.440 and television special made country the biggest commercial power in 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:57.719 American popular music. One of my favorite details comes in 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:00.560 the mid eighties when Brooks was touring Oklahoma as a 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:03.920 member of the band Santa Fe. As he explained it, 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:06.840 Santa Fe loves Southern rock and Brooks love George Straight, 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:10.440 perhaps the greatest of the neo traditional singers who put 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:13.079 honky tonk values back at the center of country music 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:17.520 in the nineteen eighties. We went into these dance halls, 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:21.000 explains Brooks, and it was exactly what those places needed 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:23.800 because during the breaks from the live band, the DJs 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:26.760 would be playing rock and pop. We brought the rock 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:30.720 and roll feel right into the live set. They also 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:34.800 set records on beer six. So today when you hear 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:37.920 Florida Georgia Line integrating hip hop and pop into their 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:40.960 country sound, they're expanning on the lessons Brooks picked up 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:43.720 in the dance halls of Oklahoma playing with Santa Fe 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:47.559 and then put into his music. Moving forward, when Kenny 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:52.080 Chesney packed stadiums with his country meets Jimmy Buffett vibe, 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:55.840 well he's drawing on how Brooks transformed country with his 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:58.960 Queen vibe or his James Taylor vibe. And you could 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:01.720 say the same thing for Or Swift, who seems to 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:05.040 have soaked up some business lessons from Brooks. He owns 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:08.320 his masters, and he remains very cautious about digital music. 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:12.440 His music now streams and is downloadable through Amazon, but 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:16.240 only because Amazon last year absorbed the online music store 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:20.920 that Brooks himself had launched in early on in Anthology, 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:24.800 Part three. Garth describes the stage as a pulpit. You're 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:27.920 either seen from it or you're watching it, he says, 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:31.440 and as you're about to hear he does sound a 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:33.920 bit like a preacher when he starts talking about music. 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:36.920 I think the only other artist I've ever spoken with 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:41.480 who is as compulsively quotable and as intensely passionate about 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:46.760 the dynamic between the audience and the performer is Bruce Springsteen. So, 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:51.720 without further ado, Church his in session in the sermon 0:11:51.800 --> 0:12:00.640 this week, it's pretty good, Garth Brooks. Welcome to inside 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:03.880 the studio. Thank you. So we're actually inside your studio, 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:07.280 so let me welcome you inside the studio. We have 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:10.120 got a lot of ground to cover, got a new 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:14.200 volume of anthology, Anthology three, which has your new live album, 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:18.640 Triple Live. We've got your upcoming stadium tour, your upcoming 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:22.240 studio album. But let's start with the show you played 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:25.520 just recently at Notre Dame, which was filmed for something 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:29.560 Else upcoming coming to Special in December. And this turned 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:32.920 out to be um a bit of a Neither rain, 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:36.000 nor sleep, nor snow nor heavy winds can stop Garth 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:38.199 Brooks from his appointed rounds. It was one of those 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:39.800 things where you were worried that the weather was going 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.640 to take front stage, center stage, and then right before 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.719 showtime everything just kind of went on. The whole day 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:49.640 started off with nice weather, temperature drops, you start to 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:54.040 get rain and then hal and then snow, so it 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:56.720 was it was like a typical day in Ireland. It 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.800 was cool man. So the greatest days start with a night. 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:03.040 But for Friday night we do this thing called Students 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:05.160 sound Check. It's a new tradition that we'll have with 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:07.920 the stadium tour. Any students with Student i D get 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:10.800 in free, and faculty and staff have to pay like 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:13.200 a ten dollar fee to get in and then all 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:15.320 that money goes back to a scholarship before the college 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:18.800 we're playing. So we were expecting what maybe five hundred 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:24.400 six hundred would have been fantastic people shows up this thing. 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:26.800 So all of a sudden, now sound check becomes the 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:29.480 concert and it was great and it kind of set 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:32.400 the tone for the whole weekend. And it was miserable 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:35.760 that night, misty, rainy. Everybody was soaking wet in the 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:38.720 stands on the stage, but nobody seemed to care. And 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:40.560 that kind of set the whole attitude for the weekend. 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:43.560 What made you pick? Well, Notre Dame kind of picked us. 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:45.679 We're supposed to take this year off and I got 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:47.720 named Rob Beckham at w M E called me one 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:49.400 day and he goes, I know you're taking the year off, 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:50.959 but there's a phone call I think you're gonna want 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:54.520 to take and uh, just due to music business mergers, 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:58.559 everything that's changing always now some of the most prolific 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.680 colleges in our history are opening up for the first 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:03.880 time ever to have concerts in their stadium and Notre 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:06.120 Dame was the first one to make the call, so 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.640 there had never been a concert in that space before, never, 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:11.320 so it was it was pretty cool. And they when 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:14.160 you the sweet thing was they're the nicest people on 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:18.640 the planet at Notre Dame. But immediately you realized they've 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:20.600 never had a concert because none of them knew anything 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:22.800 about concerts. So it's pretty good. You got to hold 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:24.240 their hand, they got to hold our hand because we 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:27.080 don't do stadiums, and it was a good marriage, so 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:29.080 good that right in the middle of everything, right in 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.040 the middle of the concert that night, it was like, 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:34.000 you know what, it only makes sense we had forty 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:37.680 five thousand tickets into the on sale. Thirty minutes into 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:40.640 the on sale, we still had sixties some thousand people 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:43.640 in the waiting room. So you were not able to 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:46.640 do another show because these are just unique individual shows. 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:49.560 They were so sweet, so good during the show that 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:50.920 I said, I'll tell you what, let's just make a 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.600 date and right there and trust me, I know all 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:55.840 our people are having a heart attack. So we're gonna 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:58.160 start the stadium tour Notre Dame, and we're gonna end 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:00.960 the American leg of it back Notre Dame will come 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:03.160 full circle. I was just talking to some of your 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:06.160 team here and that announcement came as a surprise. Was 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:07.840 that a spur of the moment thing for you? Just 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:09.960 anybody that's listening, they gets to do this for a living. 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:13.360 Put Notre Dame on your list. The greatest community, the 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:17.480 greatest sound and stadium planet. It's heaven, you know, and 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:19.840 field of dreams that hey is it's heaven. No, it's Iowa, 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.440 it's Notre Dame. Is heaven when you get to play music. 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:24.760 So you called that audible on stage. You routed the 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.360 tour right then and there, and it's really interesting how 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:30.920 the book portion of it functions as an oral history 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:33.320 of your life because it's telling the story of you 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:36.280 as a performer, going back to the very very beginning. 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.640 But one interesting thing that stuck out to me was 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:42.760 I forget who said it said you get a set list. 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:48.000 It doesn't mean anything ever. See parts of the Criban. 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:53.680 They're not rules, they're more like guidelines. That's what a 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:55.800 set list. So so is that still the case you're 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:58.400 gonna call audibles? Yes, that's all we did, and notre 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:02.040 dame because it's average changing. If you've ever been to 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:03.640 a guard show, the one thing you're going to know 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.560 more than anything is the guy that's name is on 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:10.200 the marquee is not the boss. It's the people in 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:12.680 the seats. They're the boss. Where they want to go, 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:15.760 we go. So it makes it fun for us. So 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:18.680 instead of the fiddle player knowing, well, this is what 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:20.960 I do, I'm gonna grab my fiddle here fiddle, the 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:23.440 fiddle player is holding both the guitar and the fiddle 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:26.520 in his hand, looking at you because he knows he's ready. 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:29.400 The lighting guy, the lighting guys telling all the guys 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:32.160 stand by stand by because I get a fit boom, 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:34.640 We're going to a different song. And everything now is 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:38.320 so computer program with video and media. Those guys in 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:41.680 the back room are going crazy when you change things up, 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:45.360 but they handle it so well. It's interesting. Anthology three, 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:48.560 you tell the story that each step along the way 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:52.440 is you going to school? Amen? Going back to one 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:54.560 thing that really stuck with me was you talk about 0:16:54.560 --> 0:17:00.200 how your bouncer, and as a bouncer you learn which 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:03.600 songs packed the dance floors and which ones don't. Where 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:06.920 is school for you? Now? School just started at Notre Dame. 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:09.760 I could fill up three legal pads with what I 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.760 learned in two hours on that stage. Everything from which 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:16.400 way the grating and the flooring is going on, everything 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:19.640 from that to where the points go out as opposed 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:22.879 to the clusters. You're just taking notes the whole time 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:28.880 while the crowd is spurring you on to just go crazier, wilder, deeper, under, 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:31.560 bigger better. If the crowd should live in the momment, 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:36.200 but the entertainer should live in the moment before. That's 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:39.880 where you live, because if you can surprise them, they 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:42.639 will surprise you. So you were talking about where the 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:44.560 points go, You're talking about the way out of the stage. 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:46.879 Vet you Now, do I have this right? You had 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:51.240 a whole new stage for the Notre Dame show, which 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:55.080 you're scrapping and building another stage for the stadium tour. Yeah, 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:57.280 the Notre Dame show was supposed to be the blueprint 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:59.320 for it. But what we did with Notre Dame was 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:01.360 we realized to all the things that work really well 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:03.800 and the things that don't. What are some of things? 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:06.080 Give me an example. It wasn't working. So let's take 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:08.480 the Cowboys Star. So the Cowboys Star looks like a 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:11.359 star on a badge. Right, So at one point, the 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:14.200 point is going to be facing fifty yard line one 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:16.840 side of the stadium, but the other side has two 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:18.879 legs on it that neither one of them face the 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:22.000 middle of the stadium. So never are you getting to 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:25.600 play to more than of the audience at any time 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:28.760 in the round. That was a big lesson. So now 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:31.520 replace it with a Mariner star which points north, south, 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:35.240 east and west. Elongate your east and west because the 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:38.360 field is longer than it is wide, and now you're 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:42.640 getting closer to everyone. Because the whole thing with us 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:46.520 is it all starts with the very first premises. We 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:50.320 don't golden circle. You don't pay more to be on 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:52.919 the floor than you do at the very top of 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:55.679 the stadium. It's all luck of the draw. When you 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:57.800 see somebody sit. If you're up high and you see 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:01.080 somebody sitting on the second row, they just got the 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:03.280 luck of the draw in the computer when it flag 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:05.320 went down for the ticket on sale, every ticket the 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:08.119 same price, and that's something we've always had, always done that, 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:10.800 never done the golden circle, where the closer to the 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:13.680 stage is more expensive. A gets no offense against people 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:16.160 that do that. It's just never been our thing because 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:18.879 it just makes the crowd one family. So you've always 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:21.879 kept it. Every ticket is the same price. There's a 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:26.320 philosophy on merchandise too. For me, we didn't come from money, 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:29.639 so anything you can ever get that you feel like 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:33.200 you gotta steal on or bargain on. It fits better, 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:37.560 it tastes better, all that stuff, so it's pretty cool, man. You. 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:39.280 So you do your merch you do it out of 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:42.359 a dent cotton, so it's gonna last forever. I see 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:45.600 those shirts twenty years later at concerts. I see those 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:49.280 shirts on eBay. They look brand new still, So that's 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:52.760 what we do, and they're not fifty bucks a piece 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:56.000 or bucks piece something like that. And it's cool. My 0:19:56.160 --> 0:20:00.320 thing is as an entertainer, you're what they call working. Okay, 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:03.360 this has never been work ever. Okay, last time I worked, 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:05.080 I was rough on houses when I was twenty three. 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:07.880 This is you come out of the hole and they 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:11.080 look at the ticket, they see the price, they look 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:13.960 at the stage, the lighting, rig, everything, and they go, 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:16.840 holy crap show and even started yet. And I feel 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:19.000 like I got my money's worth already. Now when you 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:22.000 come out of the hole, that crowd is happy. That 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:24.640 crowd is not sitting there going okay, you better make 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:27.200 this worth it never And when you get to come 0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:30.240 out to there, it turns to a party like that, 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:34.240 and then the party goes all night long. It's fantastic, man, 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:38.600 because you're never playing a gig for the gig itself. 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:42.919 You're always playing the gig for the next time you 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:46.280 come back. You want to be invited back. And I 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:48.800 have shamelessly at the end of concerts had such a 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:51.719 good time like in Notre Dame, and just pretty much 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:55.280 invited myself back because I'm having the best time in 0:20:55.320 --> 0:21:03.680 the arena in the stadium. You were just talking about 0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:05.280 that feeling you get when you you come out of 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:07.080 the hole, you come to come up to the stage. 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:11.520 Do you still get nervous, because there's an interesting moment. 0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:15.399 Anthology three, the very start of it starts with the 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:20.280 HBO special in Central Park, and there is documentary evidence. 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:23.959 There's photos where you say I looked white as a ghost, 0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:26.320 and indeed there's photos of you backstage before you go 0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:29.080 on and you do not look well, brother, don't. I 0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:31.760 was scared of that. I mean literally scared of that. Shaken, 0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:34.080 and this is kind of what you do for a living, 0:21:34.119 --> 0:21:37.040 so you think you're gonna be okay. The problem was 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:39.400 I didn't want to see the audience before you saw 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:41.960 me see the audience because it's live TV and I 0:21:42.000 --> 0:21:44.520 want all those reactions. What I didn't plan on was 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:47.159 walking towards the stage, the parks guys with me. He 0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:49.520 hands me a note. I said, what this. He goes, 0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:51.800 this was ninety minutes ago. This was the count ninety 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:54.640 minutes ago. I under the note. The note says eight 0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:58.080 hundred and fifty thousand, and I look at him. I said, 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:00.680 you're telling me we have eight bout there. He goes no, 0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:03.680 I'm telling you, ninety minutes ago you had eight d 0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:07.760 fifty people, and man, when when you look, I'm my 0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:11.000 town seventeen thousand people when we moved there. Okay, my 0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:13.439 towns now bedroom community of Oklahoma City. It's a lot bigger. 0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:16.679 But I've never seen that many people in my life 0:22:16.680 --> 0:22:20.080 in one place, and it scared the hell out of me, 0:22:20.240 --> 0:22:23.000 I'd be honest, and it took the whole show for 0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:25.880 me to even kind of absorb it. There's a lot 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:27.320 of things when I see that show now that I 0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:30.439 don't even remember because you're just so damn scared and 0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:33.399 you still get nervous coming on stage. Yeah, that's the 0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:36.800 fun part, though, isn't it. It's the fun part. I 0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:40.040 don't know if you ever do like water slides anything 0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:42.119 like that. You're scared of death standing up there, but 0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:44.320