WEBVTT - BA Q&A: I Need More Money!

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<v Speaker 2>Hey and Angel, how you doing girl?

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, gorgeous pretty in pink. We've got some QC career

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<v Speaker 3>All right, but let's get into your questions, Tiffany, which

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<v Speaker 3>you do the honors? I sure will while I stretch

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<v Speaker 3>and get ready.

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<v Speaker 1>This one is we won't call you dipping my toe.

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<v Speaker 2>This is from ig Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies love your podcast that I look forward to your

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<v Speaker 1>show and advice every week.

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<v Speaker 2>We love you two.

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<v Speaker 1>Girl.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a question about using LinkedIn.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been a teacher for a long time and finally

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<v Speaker 1>decided to explore a different career path to make more money.

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<v Speaker 1>Good for you, It's time for me to create a

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<v Speaker 1>LinkedIn profile. Do I create two profiles, one for each

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<v Speaker 1>career path or do I design the profile toward the

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<v Speaker 1>field with higher earning power even though all of my

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<v Speaker 1>experience is in the current field. I don't want my

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<v Speaker 1>current boss to see my LinkedIn profile that promotes me

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<v Speaker 1>in a different industry.

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<v Speaker 2>Or is that? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for all that you do. You two are fabulous.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me a good Suitay? Who I did a girl

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<v Speaker 1>something like dipping my toe and I had that dipping my.

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<v Speaker 2>Toe on LinkedIn.

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<v Speaker 1>Girl, we call you dipping my toe. I love asked

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<v Speaker 1>for that and I anticipated it. Honestly, I have no idea, Mandy,

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<v Speaker 1>this is all you. So what should dip in my toe?

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<v Speaker 3>Can we stop saying to it's one of my Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>what should dip in that? Do?

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<v Speaker 1>So?

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<v Speaker 2>This is really common.

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<v Speaker 3>People are really afraid of putting up on their like

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<v Speaker 3>giving their current employer any indication that they may be looking.

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<v Speaker 3>And I can understand that, especially if you have like

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<v Speaker 3>an immature boss or manager or like like a retaliation

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<v Speaker 3>kind of vibe at your place where people get like

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<v Speaker 3>you could get punished, You can get demoted if they

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<v Speaker 3>think that maybe you're looking elsewhere. But there are things

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<v Speaker 3>you can do to protect your privacy and still have

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<v Speaker 3>a LinkedIn profile. I don't necessarily think it makes sense

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<v Speaker 3>for you to have two profiles, and the reason is one,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have any It doesn't sound like you have

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<v Speaker 3>any experience in your new field, so what would go

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<v Speaker 3>on that profile? And two your I wouldn't look at

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<v Speaker 3>your education right now as a totally separate path. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that there's so many transferable skills from being a teacher.

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<v Speaker 3>You haven't mentioned what you want to do, which leaves

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<v Speaker 3>me a little bit struggling to give you specific advice.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm leaning towards the side of set up your

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<v Speaker 3>professional professional profile with your education background, study the job

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<v Speaker 3>listings for the roles that you want, and really focus

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<v Speaker 3>in on as a teacher, as an educator, any of

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<v Speaker 3>those skills that may be you know, transferable into this

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<v Speaker 3>new industry, and in the meantime, connect with people you know.

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<v Speaker 3>You set up your profile, now you start building your

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<v Speaker 3>LinkedIn network. The whole point of LinkedIn beyond just having

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<v Speaker 3>like a digital resume and getting reached out to by

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<v Speaker 3>recruiters is to actually connect with your peers and colleagues

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<v Speaker 3>because you never know who could have a leg up

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<v Speaker 3>or a way in to a new opportunity for you.

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<v Speaker 3>And as a pivoter, it's essential. Like if you are

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<v Speaker 3>wanting to start in a new field, why am I

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<v Speaker 3>doing the joker lip? What happened?

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<v Speaker 2>Did I drink some water?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>I just got to look at my own lips.

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<v Speaker 3>Look like the why so serious? I fix?

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<v Speaker 2>Well happened?

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<v Speaker 3>This is bad promo for VENTI. But it's not you

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<v Speaker 3>as me. It's not you as me Rihanna anyway. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so if you are so, remember the whole point of

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<v Speaker 3>LinkedIn is to connect, right, So you don't just want

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<v Speaker 3>to have a profile. You want to connect with your

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<v Speaker 3>peers and as a career pivoter, entirely essential. I think

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<v Speaker 3>too many career pivoters obsess over resumes and LinkedIn when

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<v Speaker 3>I really want you to put I mean, those are

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<v Speaker 3>just facts. Put up the facts of your work history.

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<v Speaker 3>But then focus on how can you start connecting with

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<v Speaker 3>other people and letting them know that you're open to work.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is the part that you're probably like, wait,

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<v Speaker 3>how do I tell them I'm open to work without

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<v Speaker 3>my boss seeing? So you can go on LinkedIn and

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<v Speaker 3>you can turn on your open to work setting. So

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<v Speaker 3>if you go into your profile and you edit it,

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<v Speaker 3>you'll see this. When you're setting it up, there is

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<v Speaker 3>a toggle like a selection for open to work. Now

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<v Speaker 3>you can be open to work privately, which means only

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<v Speaker 3>people who are using LinkedIn Recruiter, which is a special

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<v Speaker 3>paid version of LinkedIn which recruiters and maybe some hiring

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<v Speaker 3>managers but mostly like HR people will be using they

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<v Speaker 3>can see or open to work, but the general population

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<v Speaker 3>of LinkedIn users, including your boss, won't be able to

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<v Speaker 3>see that. So that's one way to protect yourself. Another

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<v Speaker 3>thing is you can straight up block whoever you want

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<v Speaker 3>to block on LinkedIn, you know, including your boss or colleagues.

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<v Speaker 3>If that's you know, what you want to do. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's a relatively safe thing to do, because if

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<v Speaker 3>they're teachers, I mean it's not saying that they may

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<v Speaker 3>not have a connection to a role for you. But

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<v Speaker 3>if you're really worried about retaliation or just cause, like

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<v Speaker 3>making an uncomfortable work environment for yourself, you might just

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<v Speaker 3>want to go ahead, and you know, keep your private,

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<v Speaker 3>keep your profile private to those people. But I definitely

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<v Speaker 3>would say, if you're like pivoting into a new industry,

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<v Speaker 3>which it sounds like you are, you need to start

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<v Speaker 3>looking for ways to start upskilling looking for networking opportunities.

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<v Speaker 3>One of my Mandy money makers. Hope she doesn't my

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<v Speaker 3>me shouting her out Warena. I met her. She was

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<v Speaker 3>one of my very first She was in the very

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<v Speaker 3>first cohort of makers. School teacher in Virginia or is

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<v Speaker 3>it Baltimore, shit, I forget now anyway, school teacher just

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<v Speaker 3>like classic school teacher, burned out by the pandemic, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just dealing with a really really difficult situation, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in a working environment, really not feeling like she was

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<v Speaker 3>on the right path, and really desperately wanted to break

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<v Speaker 3>into tech. And she just and this is I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like a reality, a realistic timeline. She just a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of months ago secured her first job in tech in Warena. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>and Warrena did everything right. You know, she ended up

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<v Speaker 3>switching teaching jobs even as she was on her journey

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<v Speaker 3>to pivoting in tech because she wanted to get out

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<v Speaker 3>of a toxic situation and she ended up getting a

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<v Speaker 3>sixteen K raise when she switched. So but even on

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<v Speaker 3>that journey, she went to you know, afro Tech. Afro

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<v Speaker 3>Tech has great tech focused conferences in all different cities.

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<v Speaker 3>She would go to those events. She found I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like every other month on LinkedIn Warna would be at

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<v Speaker 3>some sort of women in tech networking event and just

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<v Speaker 3>continuing to tell people I'm an educator now I really

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<v Speaker 3>want to roll in tech and ended up finally breaking

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<v Speaker 3>in so that work the sooner you start that connection work,

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<v Speaker 3>which is the hard part. LinkedIn is easybabes. Don't get

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<v Speaker 3>stuck here, the better, especially if you're pivoting into a

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<v Speaker 3>new role. Hopefully that answers your question. I can't think

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<v Speaker 3>of anything else I missed, but welcome get on LinkedIn.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, yeah, no, I love to psych you out.

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<v Speaker 1>I think like I think to your point, I think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people think LinkedIn is just about someone's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hire me. But no, I can't tell you how

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<v Speaker 1>many people you know dippin' dot that just hit me

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<v Speaker 1>up after they've heard me speak somewhere and they're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>just want to stay connected and see what you're up

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<v Speaker 1>to and and so it's just a really good place

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<v Speaker 1>to just kind of stay connected. And from there, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>oftentimes I've gotten offers to speak or to do something

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<v Speaker 1>else just from just like staying connected and checking in

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<v Speaker 1>on people that I'm connected to on LinkedIn. So don't

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<v Speaker 1>just think of that, like to Mandy's point, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that it's just a tool for someone to hire you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also to connect with other people in the space

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<v Speaker 1>because typically people like to ask other people, do you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone for this role? Or who might be good at this?

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<v Speaker 2>Who might you know?

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I get a lot of my really great people,

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<v Speaker 1>because if someone is great, I hope they know other

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<v Speaker 1>great people too. And the only one to be known

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<v Speaker 1>and know what people are up to is to stay connected.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's my little one too for you, Dippin'd But yes, teacher,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, here's the thing. I'm gonna speak a little

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<v Speaker 1>life until you Dippin' dot. The fact that you're a teacher.

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<v Speaker 1>Just know that means you are.

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<v Speaker 2>A freaking superhero.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, sis, let me tell you because people always ask me,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the secret? Saw a source behind you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>Budgetiesta's success and Literature Academy success and such, and I

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<v Speaker 1>promise you it's from that classroom because you learn to

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<v Speaker 1>be a leader, You learn to be a public speaker,

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<v Speaker 1>you learn to be a negotiator. You learn, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to connect with your students but also their parents and

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<v Speaker 1>the administration at the same damn time. You learn how

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<v Speaker 1>to take people from a place of no knowledge to

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge while also maintaining order. Child, there's nothing you don't learn.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the nurse, You're the janitor, you know, yeah, the mama, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the daddy. So I mean, I just want to encourage

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<v Speaker 1>you to know that I don't care because I taught preschool,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't care what age that you've taught. If

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<v Speaker 1>you've taught that, there are so many skill sets that

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<v Speaker 1>you that you're gonna be able to tap into that

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<v Speaker 1>you might even realize how helpful that is. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just commend you and applaud you and just give

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<v Speaker 1>you that boost of of just affirmation that you're a

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<v Speaker 1>badass because you are a teacher.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, are you want to take a quick break?

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<v Speaker 1>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Dress for our next question?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we'll take a quick break. You break me right

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<v Speaker 3>back with B, a Q and A. All right, be

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<v Speaker 3>a fan we are back with another juicy, juicy career question.

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<v Speaker 3>This one's gonna be fun because it talks about negotiating,

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<v Speaker 3>which is my I start panting and getting excited.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm gonna read it because this is really

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<v Speaker 1>like Mandy's like Wheelhouse. I'm like, that's like my full

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<v Speaker 1>except like, let me read this, So Bay call me

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<v Speaker 1>and coach put me in coach.

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>What Nell? They got to say?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? So this is from Nelly from ig Hi Mandy.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope you well girl, I'm here too, but that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Community will stop.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone's always like hey T and that girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have one because you know best that this

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<v Speaker 1>is a Mandy question. But either way, hey girl, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying, ha.

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<v Speaker 2>Question.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking to give you very soon for a new

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity at my current company, different department. It would be

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<v Speaker 1>a promotion, and I have most of the required skills

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<v Speaker 1>plus finish my masters in twenty twenty one. Go ahead, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>How can I go about getting the absolute max amount

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<v Speaker 1>of money? Since they that have access to my salary history, FYI,

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<v Speaker 1>the range is up to one hundred and fifty six

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<v Speaker 1>K and I'm at one twenty three currently they require

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<v Speaker 1>a salary expectation entry. When I applied, I said one

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<v Speaker 1>fifty just in case they negotiated me down. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>know if you have any tips. Loving everything you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Nelly, this is a good question.

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<v Speaker 3>What do I want to start saying? Hot in hair?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, let's do it. Get again hot in here.

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<v Speaker 1>So make sure you get all your coins.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we negotiate and that doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>That's abound me. Okay, this is a book.

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<v Speaker 3>Delete that anyway. Listen and Nelly, first of all, congratulations,

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<v Speaker 3>because I feel like this is a really exciting opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>and to work at a company where you can apply

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<v Speaker 3>to another department, it's awesome. And I feel like when

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<v Speaker 3>people think about quitting a role for a new opportunity,

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<v Speaker 3>you sometimes think like you have to go outside the company.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm a huge fan of pivoting in place, Like

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<v Speaker 3>that's what I call it. When you find a growth

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity right where you are, and your mindset is really

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<v Speaker 3>important here and this is a thing where you know

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<v Speaker 3>what you make and you're kind of letting that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of get to.

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<v Speaker 2>You a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I would treat this new department like another company. So

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<v Speaker 3>anything that you would do if you were interviewing for

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<v Speaker 3>an outside company, I would do, you know, I would

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<v Speaker 3>go in there strong and establish, you know, your credentials

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<v Speaker 3>and how excited you are for the opportunity. You've already

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned a salary, at least it was a sort of

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<v Speaker 3>the top of the range. You mentioned one fifty. I

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<v Speaker 3>typically would have said, you know, put you know competitive,

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<v Speaker 3>or put zero or put one dollar or whatever it

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<v Speaker 3>is in the fields that you don't have to necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>name a number. But I think that you should go

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<v Speaker 3>in there definitely expecting to get paid what the value

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<v Speaker 3>of the job is, especially if it is a promotion.

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<v Speaker 3>You have most of the skills, like you said, and

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<v Speaker 3>you now have a master's degree. So if you are

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<v Speaker 3>thinking about the salary that you have now holding you back,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a whole different job. You know, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>step up, probably more responsibility. What may help you feel

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<v Speaker 3>more confident going in and asking for your value is

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<v Speaker 3>to find comparable roles at comparable companies. As are the

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<v Speaker 3>two comps. You want to have similar company and a

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<v Speaker 3>similar role, and see what types of salaries they're offering

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<v Speaker 3>as well, and then again think of them as an

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<v Speaker 3>outside employer who doesn't necessarily know your current salary, and

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<v Speaker 3>negotiate from that space. It's not about what you're earning now,

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<v Speaker 3>it's about the market value. Excuse me, It's about the

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<v Speaker 3>market value of a candidate for this specific role that

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<v Speaker 3>you're applying for. So don't go in there thinking one

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<v Speaker 3>twenty three vibes. Think one fifty six. Okay, think hi.

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<v Speaker 3>And you also know that you're not probably just making

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<v Speaker 3>one twenty three. You also have to factor in your

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<v Speaker 3>annual bonus on top of that, you know, so don't

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<v Speaker 3>forget that you can still negotiate those types of things

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<v Speaker 3>like your annual bonus amount. If they offer you equity

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<v Speaker 3>at your company, you should still feel confident negotiating equity

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<v Speaker 3>when you get to that point, like you've just applied

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<v Speaker 3>now and you put in your salary expectation, which is cool. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>the key is everything that's going to happen before the negotiation,

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<v Speaker 3>which is you really want to make them excited to

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<v Speaker 3>hire you. You already know the company, but what other

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<v Speaker 3>strengths do you bring to the table, Like how well

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<v Speaker 3>do you understand the challenges the pain points of the

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<v Speaker 3>team that you're joining. Do you have any connections on

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<v Speaker 3>that team already that you can build on those relationships.

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<v Speaker 3>You want them to think of you as a no brainer,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, so that by the time you get to

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<v Speaker 3>the negotiation or the offer stage, they want you so

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<v Speaker 3>bad that when you come back to them and like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>one forty is cute, but what about one fifty six,

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<v Speaker 3>that they're like, Okay, we really want Nelly, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>so let's make this happen. That's essential for you at

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<v Speaker 3>this point. But before you get there, you got to

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<v Speaker 3>get your mindset right around. This is a whole different employer,

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<v Speaker 3>even though it's with the same company, whole different team.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not in the same role that you have now,

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<v Speaker 3>You're not making one twenty three in this new role,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a whole different ballgame.

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<v Speaker 2>So start to.

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<v Speaker 3>Think that way and don't get in your own way.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm just like as someone who employees and oftentimes

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<v Speaker 1>typically will promote promote from within, you know, I like

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<v Speaker 1>most employees employers are going to want to look within

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<v Speaker 1>if someone is good, because it's like, you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to learn the company culture. I don't have to like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of talk talk to you about like and teach

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<v Speaker 1>you about what we do here. So know that, like

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<v Speaker 1>that's a benefit, you know, to be able, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to looking to work internal. But also sometimes the problem

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<v Speaker 1>is is like the prodigal son, right, the person who

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<v Speaker 1>leaves and comes back gets like better treatment than the

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<v Speaker 1>person who stayed. So don't be afraid either to like

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<v Speaker 1>be like m it seeming like they you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>treat me like old news.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I need to be made.

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<v Speaker 1>Kniil again, you know, so if you're needing, if you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to make more, consider that too. But I just

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<v Speaker 1>say this that I have people on my team that

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<v Speaker 1>are just so excellent, Like are you bringing obvious excellence

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<v Speaker 1>to the table, not just you're you're doing well, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're visibly doing well. You know, there are people who

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<v Speaker 1>like even now, there's a woman on one of my

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<v Speaker 1>teams that I want to bring on over to the Bunjanista.

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<v Speaker 1>She's on the Literature Academy team. Shout out to you,

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<v Speaker 1>I K Sugarl, we come and get you. She's amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know, it just started with you know, us

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<v Speaker 1>contracting her to do a few things here and there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was just blown away about what she delivered.

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<v Speaker 1>Logan was like what we gotta do to get her?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, and she do project management, but she's just excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>She's one of those people that, like, you know it,

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<v Speaker 1>just is going to see the thing all the way through.

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<v Speaker 1>A Keisha works really hard but also smart and strategically.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like a great team player, easy to get along with.

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<v Speaker 1>She project managed project So her first project management thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I had her do was she helped me with

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<v Speaker 1>the Get Go with Money launch. That was a huge

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<v Speaker 1>project to try and trust to someone and it was

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<v Speaker 1>like fifteen of us working on Get Good Money and

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<v Speaker 1>it was getting to be overwhelming for me to manage everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>So I said, I heard through the grape vine because

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<v Speaker 1>we used to have our weekly chats when I was

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<v Speaker 1>the CEO of the Academy. I heard through the grape

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<v Speaker 1>vine that a Kesha was interested in project management and

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to test it out. And I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a huge test for you. Try Get Good

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<v Speaker 1>Money on the Budjanista side. And she was like, are

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<v Speaker 1>you sure? I said, one all eleven people on the

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<v Speaker 1>Get gos Money team are hard workers, so the project

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<v Speaker 1>management component is not You don't have to manage and

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<v Speaker 1>motivate them. These are great people. I cherry picked everyone

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<v Speaker 1>on the team, so that was one. You just have

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<v Speaker 1>to keep us all organized. And she was excellent, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, hold on, I want to Keisha from myself,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and Tam had to tussle, like oh a

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<v Speaker 1>good tussle. I won, and so yeah, so I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>making her I mean, I don't even if I Kisa listen,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, girl, I'll be making your offer.

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<v Speaker 2>So because we talked about it already.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm just saying all that to say, when you

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<v Speaker 1>are excellent, a space is always made for you at

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<v Speaker 1>the table. So I'm sure you're bringing excellence to the

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<v Speaker 1>table in an obvious way because it'll make people say

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<v Speaker 1>we cannot lose you, know, Nelly, So good luck to

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<v Speaker 1>you girl.

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<v Speaker 3>That's such a perfect point to make. Yeah. I talked

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<v Speaker 3>to a coaching client this morning, all the way in Australia,

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<v Speaker 3>shout out to to Nicole. It was ten thirty her time,

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<v Speaker 3>ten thirty am my time, and she's going through a

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<v Speaker 3>similar thing. She's applying for a senior role at her company,

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<v Speaker 3>and I had to remind her how incredibly beneficial it

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<v Speaker 3>is that people already know her like she has brand

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<v Speaker 3>recognition exactly where she is, and she I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes we take ourselves for granted at work and we

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<v Speaker 3>forget like the we don't or no one tells us.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's so much value in having a great reputation

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<v Speaker 3>colleagues wanting to work with you. That, plus you can

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<v Speaker 3>teach skills, you can teach how to do this, how

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<v Speaker 3>to do that to a certain extent. Right, So if

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<v Speaker 3>you're meeting most of the qualifications not all of them,

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<v Speaker 3>and people know and love you and will vouch for you,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know endorse you, that is so key, and

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<v Speaker 3>that gives you such a huge advantage over external candidates.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it's just about building your own confidence, Nelly,

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<v Speaker 3>in that you have a lot going for you already

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<v Speaker 3>understanding the inner workings of this company. And even though

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<v Speaker 3>I want to know like twelve thousand more things about

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<v Speaker 3>the situation, I just want you to go in again

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<v Speaker 3>feeling strong. And to Tiffany's point about sometimes if you

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<v Speaker 3>are missing out on opportunities and you're not being valued

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<v Speaker 3>where you are because that unfortunately it's often the case,

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<v Speaker 3>use this as a litmus test to see, Okay, do

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<v Speaker 3>I have growth potential at this company? And if this

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<v Speaker 3>promotion does not work out or you don't get the

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<v Speaker 3>support that you feel like you need well at East,

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<v Speaker 3>you explore that option, and you should feel nose bounce

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<v Speaker 3>of guilt for looking outside of the company, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>for new opportunities. Sometimes they got to really fear losing

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<v Speaker 3>you to really respect and value you, which is unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's up to you to you know, assert your

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<v Speaker 3>value in that way. So I hope this works out

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<v Speaker 3>for you, But I'm just saying even if it don't,

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<v Speaker 3>there's other pads ahead of you as well, and they

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<v Speaker 3>don't have to be you know, feeling stuck or stagnant

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<v Speaker 3>where you currently are.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye, but keep us updated, Nellie. We'd love to learn

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