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Speaker 2: Paul is on his annual Loser Palooza floor and he

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Speaker 2: and his friends get together and I guess they drink

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Speaker 2: first Round.

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Speaker 3: He takes tomorrow off too, right, deal with the hangover.

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Speaker 2: They're just losers and they love Alex from Lunenburg. When

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Speaker 2: there are five people with studio, Fred looks like a hobbit.

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Speaker 4: He seems like he's doing great. Yeah, that's great, but

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Speaker 4: you know, handsome is.

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Speaker 5: Ever when you were in school, like we used to,

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Speaker 5: like during lunch or something, there's always that cool teacher

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Speaker 6: Well, oh yeah, never.

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Speaker 4: The Bruins were in the Stanley Cup in twenty eleven

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Speaker 4: extra week to do a project that was due the

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Speaker 4: next day, soever to watch the Stanley Cup. We got

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Speaker 4: to watch the Challenger blow up. Wow, I remember watching

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Speaker 2: Going Freso says I'm the one that recommended healthy sleep.

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Speaker 3: And we'll take all the credit or blame because.

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Speaker 4: Like I got to bring it in for us and

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Speaker 3: The take a picture. I'm not going to bring my

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here

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Speaker 2: at you Let's stadium. I don't know about where you

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Speaker 2: guys live, but I can't decide if it's spring or

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Speaker 2: still winter around here.

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Speaker 4: It was snowing like the Dickens where I lived this morning.

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Speaker 4: We didn't get the dickens, but we got a coating that.

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Speaker 3: Was I mean, it didn't amount to much, but it

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Speaker 4: I was there, it was there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, come on different what what we live? I

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Speaker 5: feel like we looked different today. Did they did they

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Speaker 5: do something with the cameras?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeh, I guess they did. They worked

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Speaker 1: Yes, the cameras were fixed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah okay, yeah, all right, I'm still a hobbit, but

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Speaker 3: Hobbits are good.

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Speaker 4: I like I'm Morgan.

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Speaker 3: Moses are you, Bilbo, I'd rather look like a hobbit

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Speaker 2: It's true for you, Lord of the Rings fans, Paul,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Uh so what do we got?

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Speaker 3: We got?

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Speaker 2: We got some minor signings, a little movement, a little scuttle,

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Speaker 4: Josh Dobbs got released.

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Speaker 4: not the pastor not is no more, but Tommy DeVito

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Speaker 1: And I think we talked a little bit about DeVito

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Speaker 4: How does it all work out? Sometime in day two,

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Speaker 5: If you're drafting thinking this is gonna be our third tackle,

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Speaker 6: In a tougher spot, I would put it to you.

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Speaker 4: I Mean, that's way probably why you see tackle pop

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we got that and some NFL news yesterday,

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Speaker 4: Like just the way he runs and everything just looks

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Speaker 5: It seems like that game is gonna age like fine wine,

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Speaker 4: But you can see they were smart to sign him

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Speaker 4: now because now the price is only going up. Yeah

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Speaker 4: for Nikola.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're gonna find that in a couple

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Speaker 3: Yeah he paid him, yep.

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Speaker 5: Like doesn't have to be the fastest guy, like JSN

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Speaker 4: It was hilarious. You did watch, I told Paul, I

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Speaker 4: Like, they're about to get their asses handed and by

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Speaker 4: let's go regular seven seven, and everyone just shoven.

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Speaker 4: I'm like this flag football thing is hilarious. And then

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Speaker 2: Had the excuse that, you know, we just learned how

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Speaker 4: Well, And that was another part of it, was like

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Speaker 1: That no one wanted to talk about.

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Speaker 3: And I thought the football.

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Speaker 2: Is nothing more than ultimate frisbee with more stoppage of play.

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Speaker 3: That's all it is.

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Speaker 1: Idn't possibly agree more pretty much.

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Speaker 5: I had a tough time with it, like the whole

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Speaker 4: There's no ball security, there's no fumbles because you know

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Speaker 5: So they were just like that part of it to

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Speaker 1: The place we're dead. If a guy went down in.

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Speaker 4: Our league, at least a knee down, maybe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you if you went down to play, the

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Speaker 6: Be not in this one.

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Speaker 5: I saw one guy that that definitely hit the ground

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Speaker 6: Guys, I'm not trying it, you know.

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Speaker 1: It is a lot different than Paul, like, you know.

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Speaker 4: The thing I noticed was that they because in our

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Speaker 4: like yeah, like three liszes per half, but this one

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Speaker 4: And I was saying to Paul, I think part of

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Speaker 1: But he wasn't as good one. He didn't know what

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Speaker 4: So but the funny it was when before Gronk got hurt,

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Speaker 1: That was pretty awesome, right.

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Speaker 5: Definitely inspired a big debate about the twenty twenty eight Olympics,

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Speaker 5: and like the US professional flag team is clearly a

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Speaker 1: He scored every time. Yeah, every time they had the

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Now I louke like running for his life trying to

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Speaker 5: Like if they like stopped playing football for the NFL

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Speaker 5: you know, physical contested catch guys, Like that's not flag.

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Speaker 5: That's not going to help you. But like if you

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Speaker 2: Know, there isn't it the easier to get the flag off?

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Speaker 5: I don't know about that, but like in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: Football, and I can't stand it being marketed as a

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Speaker 3: It's just so ridiculous, you know.

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Speaker 5: I would say though, that like the the for lack

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Speaker 5: like the ability to catch the football, work the sidelines,

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Speaker 5: They're they're learning how to throw and catch and you know,

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Speaker 5: it's just nothing like it.

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Speaker 3: No, So that was going on.

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Speaker 4: It was going on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that happened.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was fine.

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Speaker 5: I can't believe how much my timeline was about like

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Speaker 5: It's the fon digs that everybody was going crazy about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah I did.

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Speaker 1: I didn't.

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Speaker 4: I didn't like to think you constantly have a free

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Speaker 4: if that's just the case for this league, but I

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Speaker 3: You have to have that pressure otherwise you're just gonna pick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the team, Well, you have four second to throw.

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Speaker 2: Okay, like this, so it's like we used to play

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Speaker 1: But even if you don't rush, you have to throw

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Speaker 3: Oh oh okay, yeah, and.

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Speaker 1: I think it's four seconds.

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Speaker 3: Can you run it?

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Speaker 4: I don't know what their rules like our rules. If

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Speaker 1: And then you can throw it behind the line of

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Speaker 4: You can pitch it. It's all like on a pitch.

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Speaker 4: It's complicated, all right.

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Speaker 1: I agree with your overall point. It's fine if you

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Speaker 1: if you're eight, eight, nine, ten years old and you're playing,

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Speaker 1: and you can improve ball skills and stuff like that,

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Speaker 4: Well, and shout out to your dad for being inducted

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Speaker 2: I mean my gripe with the NFL and its promotion

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Speaker 3: Is they're neglecting tackle football.

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Speaker 2: We need to get back to promoting tackle football at

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Speaker 4: You know, towns are merging, towns are merging. There's just

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Speaker 4: it's not right, it's not good. The NFL needs to

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Speaker 1: Your friend's nailing it. So, you know, my kids played

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Speaker 1: in a small Catholic conference, you know, the Catholic Central League,

445
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Speaker 1: and most of the schools in the league only had

446
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Speaker 1: one you know, like Bishop Fiann's a big school down here.

447
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Speaker 1: They have a good JV and freshman team. We would run,

448
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Speaker 1: you know, at Bishop Fenwick, we'd have three teams, but

449
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Speaker 1: the vast majority of the league had a hard time

450
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Speaker 1: even putting a JV team out there. Yeah, so you're

451
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Speaker 1: talking about forty kids maybe in the program, you know,

452
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Speaker 1: total freshmen to senior forty kids.

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Speaker 5: I mean, what are they playing because they have to

454
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Speaker 5: be playing something like they're not like not playing sports anymore.

455
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Speaker 3: Well, there's like the individual stuff, the fall.

456
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Speaker 1: You know, there's always soccer, you know, you know it

457
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Speaker 1: gets played in the fall.

458
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Speaker 2: Tracking This track in the fall fall track right there

459
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Speaker 2: used to be track is a spring.

460
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Speaker 1: Spring in winter, I think is track. But I mean

461
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Speaker 1: soccer I think cuts into it a little bit. I mean,

462
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Speaker 1: but it's but it's a campaign. It's a campaign. You know,

463
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Speaker 1: the media so sensationalizes all of the I mean, I'm

464
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Speaker 1: not telling you they're not real issues. And I'm not

465
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Speaker 1: not going into the cam Scataboo area here where I'm

466
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Speaker 1: making light of of CTE and concussions because it's not

467
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Speaker 1: anything to be taken lightly. It's something that I thought

468
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Speaker 1: about long and hard before my kids played, and I

469
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Speaker 1: was very cognizant of it going in. But the way

470
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Speaker 1: the scare tactics that are that are going on in

471
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Speaker 1: the mainstream media to like basically telling you you're a

472
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Speaker 1: bad parent if you let your kid play hockey or

473
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Speaker 1: you let your kid play football, like it's it's a problem.

474
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Speaker 1: And that's why I think the participation is down more

475
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Speaker 1: so because I don't think there's a lot of soccer

476
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Speaker 1: programs that are you know, aren't necessarily thriving either. So

477
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Speaker 1: I think there are kids that just aren't playing as

478
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Speaker 1: many sports, you know, for for these fears about head

479
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Speaker 1: injuries and whatnot.

480
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Speaker 6: And the specialization.

481
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Speaker 3: I think it's video games.

482
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Speaker 1: Video games is absolutely a part of it. Fred, I

483
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Speaker 1: think you're right, kids are getting lazy.

484
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Speaker 6: I don't know about that, but I don't.

485
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Speaker 1: Things to do. I wasn't necessarily making yeah, but I

486
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Speaker 1: mean entire generation.

487
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Speaker 2: Videos I would have, but I I'm apparently I'm in

488
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Speaker 2: the minority right now.

489
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I have one of each.

490
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Speaker 4: I have a kid who really loves playing computer games

491
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Speaker 4: and be it, and I have another kid who like

492
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Speaker 4: he's just dying to go fishing. That is, like all

493
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Speaker 4: he wants to do is go outsider, you know, or

494
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Speaker 4: play sports.

495
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Speaker 1: So I don't. I don't know. It's I mean, it's

496
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Speaker 1: all part of it.

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Speaker 4: I wonder about the specialization thing. You see that in

498
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Speaker 4: hockey with juniors and all these.

499
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Speaker 1: Hockey specializations in issue chopping up that.

500
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Speaker 4: You know, players are going to go and just kind

501
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Speaker 4: of put their education in the backseat and do virtual

502
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Speaker 4: school so that they can play hockey twenty four to

503
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Speaker 4: seven and three sixty five.

504
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Speaker 3: You know, I don't.

505
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Speaker 1: I guess you got to pick.

506
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Speaker 4: What's right for you.

507
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Speaker 3: But I think we're warped.

508
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Speaker 1: It is amazing though when you watch, you know, the

509
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Speaker 1: specialization thing is something I've sort of tracked a lot

510
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Speaker 1: because you know, just being in the locker room here

511
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Speaker 1: and talking to all multiple players in just how much

512
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Speaker 1: they all it's one hundred percent. I've never heard one say, oh,

513
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Speaker 1: the thing to do is specialize. I'm talking literally, it's

514
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Speaker 1: one hundred percent. They promote multiple sports, you know, growing up,

515
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Speaker 1: and it's amazing when you watch at the high school level.

516
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Speaker 1: And I'm not as in tuned to it now because

517
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Speaker 1: both of my kids are done, but all of the

518
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Speaker 1: best players, like the best football player is a three

519
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Speaker 1: sport guy, the best basketball player is a three sport guy.

520
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Speaker 1: It's amazing to me. It's not just well, well they

521
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Speaker 1: play three, but it's it's the ones who excel the most.

522
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Speaker 3: And that's the thing. They're so natural at it.

523
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Speaker 2: They don't need to specialize because every season they're the

524
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Speaker 2: best anyway.

525
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Speaker 1: But they're constantly told by these coaches Evans right, and

526
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Speaker 1: is right. You know, seventh grade, eighth grade, well, you

527
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Speaker 1: need to be in my you know, my soccer program.

528
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Speaker 1: You need to be in my junior hockey program. You know,

529
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Speaker 1: we're the junior Coyotes and we're the junior Bruins, and

530
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Speaker 1: you know, this is if you want to if you

531
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Speaker 1: want to get better, and then you get pressured into it,

532
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Speaker 1: and you feel like you're going to lose ice time

533
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Speaker 1: if you don't do it, if you don't specialize, that's

534
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Speaker 1: what happens to these these things. Lacrosse does the same thing.

535
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Speaker 1: The only sport that really doesn't specialize is football, yeah,

536
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Speaker 1: because you just play one. Well now you can't play

537
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Speaker 1: your flag.

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Speaker 5: They play flag in the spring and summer. But I

539
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Speaker 5: think the I mean lacrosse was starting when I was playing,

540
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Speaker 5: you know, with the teams, you know, the travel teams

541
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Speaker 5: and like your varsity coach would have like a club team,

542
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Speaker 5: and if you didn't play for the club team with

543
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Speaker 5: the varsity coach, then good luck getting any playing time

544
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Speaker 5: once the regular season you know, rolled around in the spring.

545
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Speaker 5: And that was thirty three, so that was a long

546
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Speaker 5: time ago now. But you know, I just look at like,

547
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Speaker 5: you know, Drake May, Like Drake May talks all the

548
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Speaker 5: time about basketball and how like good that was for

549
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Speaker 5: him in so many different ways, like talking about like

550
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Speaker 5: pressure moments and like having the ball in your hands,

551
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Speaker 5: and you know, skill and hand eye coordination and like

552
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Speaker 5: all that kind of stuff. I was just doing some

553
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Speaker 5: of the linebackers the other day, researching for the draft,

554
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Speaker 5: and the kid from Oregon is already drafted to the

555
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Speaker 5: Bay MLB. He's a two sport athlete at Oregon and

556
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Speaker 5: he got drafted as a baseball player in the MLB draft.

557
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Speaker 5: And now but he wants I want, he wants, he

558
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Speaker 5: wants to play. No, he's a linebacker. He wants to

559
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Speaker 5: play football, so he's gonna he's gonna take the football route.

560
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Speaker 5: But some team in the MLB already has his rights

561
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Speaker 5: if he ever decides to go play.

562
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Speaker 1: Baby talk about him a lot during the games. That's

563
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Speaker 1: why I don't remember. I don't remember his name, but

564
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Speaker 1: I remember the story.

565
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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's like they're starting Mike linebacker, so yeah, they

566
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Speaker 5: you know, you just see it even doing this draft

567
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 5: stuff where it's like, oh, this kid's also like a

568
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Speaker 5: really good basketball player. He's a really good baseball player.

569
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Speaker 5: He's really good whatever. And I don't know.

570
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Speaker 2: Tina and bel Ricka asks, is flag football to football

571
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Speaker 2: as pickleball is the tennis.

572
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Speaker 3: A little bit?

573
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Speaker 2: But I flag football is worse because it's being marketed

574
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Speaker 2: to kids and as an alternative to something that you

575
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Speaker 2: shouldn't be playing, which isn't right. Pickleball is like you

576
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Speaker 2: admit it, you can't play tennis, so you're playing pickleball.

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Speaker 3: You know that's different.

578
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Speaker 1: I love the little sniff there at the end, but yeah, yeah,

579
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Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think it's it's it's they're

580
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Speaker 1: not telling you. You know, young tennis players don't play tennis,

581
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Speaker 1: play pickleball, right, you know what I mean, like save

582
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Speaker 1: a little wear and tear in the body. Yeah, because

583
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Speaker 1: I'm sure that pickleball is well, you know, I'm sure

584
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Speaker 1: it's a workout.

585
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Speaker 3: It can be if you're playing well, it's.

586
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Speaker 1: Not as much as as tennis. It's not as much running,

587
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Speaker 1: not as much court to cover as tennis. So you

588
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Speaker 1: could market it as like, oh, well, you know, you know,

589
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Speaker 1: save your wear and tear and play pickleball when you're eight.

590
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Speaker 1: You don't need to be playing full tennis, right. Yeah.

591
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Speaker 1: If they don't market it like that, that's what they're

592
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Speaker 1: doing for football.

593
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Speaker 4: Right and flight football too is kind of excuse to

594
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Speaker 4: the kids who can run, and like I always one

595
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Speaker 4: thing I like about football is like there's a place

596
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Speaker 4: for the slow big kid like the slow big kids.

597
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Speaker 4: You can play a place for everybody, those things that.

598
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Speaker 2: I always said, if you can play football, you play football.

599
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Speaker 2: Yeah right, that's that's what you do. Nick from Connecticut

600
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Speaker 2: rights in I can hear you. Last Thursday show showed

601
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Speaker 2: why we need Paul. When discussing number one wide receivers,

602
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Speaker 2: everyone kept talking about JSN and the Super Bowl as

603
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Speaker 2: a talking point as to what why haunt one doesn't matter.

604
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Speaker 2: I don't know what he must have missed, biled I

605
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Speaker 2: don't know what that means. The crew and callers said

606
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Speaker 2: many times that Gonzo took him out of the game.

607
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Speaker 2: This is simply not true. He missed the majority party

608
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Speaker 2: of the game due to that foot injury, which is

609
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Speaker 2: why his numbers were low. Even when he was in.

610
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Speaker 2: Gonzo was primarily on Shaheed on the outside. Evan was

611
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Speaker 2: correct in his WR one take, but completely blew his

612
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Speaker 2: argument without Paul there to remind people.

613
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Speaker 6: Of the facts, saying Jason missed time in the Super Bowl.

614
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Speaker 1: With a concussion. Yes, he missed like the whole third quarter,

615
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Speaker 1: but did he have a foot thing going in? I

616
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Speaker 1: don't know. I would just argue that Sam Darnold took

617
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Speaker 1: JSN out of the Super Bowl. That would have been

618
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Speaker 1: my Paul argument for that. But I but I don't

619
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Speaker 1: think it sounds like Evan you were advocating for the

620
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Speaker 1: need in the importance of a number one guy. Yeah,

621
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Speaker 1: even if he doesn't have a good game, but.

622
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Speaker 6: He still played seventy percent of the snaps, missed the

623
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Speaker 6: third quarter. Yeah, but we're not talking about the guy

624
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Speaker 6: is acting like he played ten snaps.

625
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, he came back. He came back in

626
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Speaker 1: the game.

627
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Speaker 5: But you know, some of the people were just saying that,

628
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Speaker 5: you know, JSN didn't have a huge Super Bowl, so

629
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Speaker 5: that shows you that you don't need it.

630
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Speaker 1: And I just couldn't couldn't disagree more.

631
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was making the argument shows you the importance

632
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Speaker 6: of it, right.

633
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 5: The game planning that went into taking him out of

634
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 5: the game opened up things, you know, for other people.

635
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would also like the snarky comment that

636
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: I would have had is if Donald was accurate on

637
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 1: three passes, we're talking about an entirely different game for JSN.

638
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 1: Like he was opened three times, two of which should

639
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: have been touchdowns, and Donald just didn't get him the

640
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: ball and Gonzales ended up making incredible pass breakups as

641
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: a result. But if the throws are good, then he's

642
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: not doing anything about them.

643
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Speaker 5: Well, the one touchdown down, you know by the goal line.

644
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 5: That one was to Jaysn. The deep post that Gonzo

645
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 5: broke up was to Shaheed.

646
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Speaker 1: But they they I'm talking about a deep ball maybe

647
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 1: guns Gonzo wasn't involved in. But there was a deep

648
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: ball early in the game off of scramble that he

649
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: was five yards of the play, no one near him.

650
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, on the broken play. Yeah.

651
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: I mean so, in other words, let's add two touchdowns

652
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: and one hundred yards of receiving to the bad game

653
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,959
Speaker 1: for JSN, just on two good throws.

654
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Speaker 5: Like no, I mean, his presence was felt in the game.

655
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 5: That was the only point. Whether it was in the

656
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 5: box score or not, you.

657
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 1: Have to account for that guy, and the Patriots did,

658
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: and they kept him down. I mean, they give Gonzo

659
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: credit for that, But I don't think that that means

660
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Speaker 1: that the number one receiver is not important. I think

661
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Speaker 1: it's very important.

662
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 2: George says, well, damn, Fred, you cut Paul and Mike

663
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Speaker 2: off when they were discussing Paul's pop induction into the

664
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Speaker 2: Pop Water Hall of fame. Can you finish that conversation please?

665
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Speaker 1: So he was inducted into the National Pulp Owner Football

666
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame over the weekend in Chicago. It's great.

667
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 3: Did you go?

668
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: I was in Charleston with my son.

669
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: Oh okay, who his son?

670
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 4: Get the crap eat out?

671
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: My son? My son had his recognition day at the Citadel.

672
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: So the rest of my family though, my mom, my

673
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: brother and sister, and my couple of nieces and nephews

674
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: were there. It was a great, great weekend for him.

675
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: It's a great honor to be part of that fifty

676
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: four years he spent volunteering his time in Pop Warner football,

677
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: so it was very rewarding for all of us. It

678
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: was a huge, huge accomplishment.

679
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 4: What does he think of flag football?

680
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: So, I mean he's like everybody else's. He's very disappointed

681
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: in the you know, the programs that are going under

682
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: they just don't have the participation to support it. And

683
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: it's something that my parents, you know, dedicated a lot

684
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: of time too, So it means a lot to them,

685
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: and it's it's sad to them, you know, and no

686
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: one's you know, not running programs. But it's not like

687
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: it's mismanagement. It's just the numbers just aren't there anymore.

688
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: You know, there's not enough to do.

689
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 3: We blame the parents, what do we blame?

690
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: I blame the media, the media. I think the media

691
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: has created a scare of of epic proportions among and

692
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: not just football, like almost youth sports in general.

693
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Speaker 3: Well then then yeah, so that's what I was about

694
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 3: to say.

695
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 2: If if it's youth sports in general, then what's going on?

696
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 2: Because like I don't know, there are some sports where

697
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: they don't associate it with CTE.

698
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: What's going on there?

699
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 4: I mean, I I think there's literally when Paul saying,

700
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 4: I mean, from my perspective, I just hate seeing that

701
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 4: they be kids so corporatized and these are now money

702
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 4: making machines and it's no longer about getting kids to

703
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 4: play sports and learn how to be on a team

704
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 4: and learn how to deal with success and failure. It's

705
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 4: about trying to get your kid to the NHL. You know,

706
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Speaker 4: I'm just speaking mainly from the hockey angle, because that's,

707
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 4: you know, the closest thing.

708
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: Just go to college, like like it's a it's a

709
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: everybody wants to have their kid go to school for

710
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: free and you know, the the reality of that is

711
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: that the odds are so astronomically stacked against that. But

712
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: it doesn't stop. And it's funny. You know, Mike and

713
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: I were joking around this morning. There was the Wall

714
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: Street Journal story today that came out that indicated that

715
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: there were they're starting to see this ground swell of

716
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: kids repeating the eighth grade in an effort to get

717
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: NIL packages. I sort of I made the mistake of,

718
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: you know, stating facts of things that have happened for

719
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: thirty years. Kids have been repeating the eighth grade in

720
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: an effort to get a Division one scholarship. Nothing to

721
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: do with NIL. This is stuff that I had three

722
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,479
Speaker 1: or four kids that I grew up with that did it,

723
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: one of which I was pretty close with. I had

724
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Speaker 1: some other kids, you know, sort of around me. When

725
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: my kids were going through middle school. There was a

726
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: I could think of a half dozen off the top

727
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: of my head that did it again before NIL was

728
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: even a thing. Oh yeah, and I can think of

729
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: one kid that played Division one. He played Division one basketball.

730
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: He repeated the eighth grade in the early nineties. He

731
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 1: played Division one basketball at a very high level. And

732
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: you know, maybe he wouldn't have gotten that scholarship if

733
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: he had just gone to the I don't know, there's

734
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: no way of knowing. It didn't happen. He did repeat

735
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: the eighth grade, and he did get a Division I scholarship,

736
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: and he was very successful at a high level.

737
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 6: The thing that.

738
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 5: I worry about is I think a lot of this

739
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 5: is cash grabbing to create club teams and all that

740
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 5: is a It's a lot of.

741
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 6: Money involved in that business.

742
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: AU club teams un amok.

743
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Speaker 5: And so like these people that you know, maybe were

744
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 5: Paul's father in a you know at one point in time,

745
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 5: are now seeing opportunities to make money off of specialization

746
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 5: and off of club teams and stuff. And this also,

747
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 5: like I, this was already starting when I was in

748
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 5: high school, especially in the lacrosse world, but even the

749
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 5: basketball world too, And there was already AAU.

750
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 6: There was already club lacrosse.

751
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 3: There was and it was well AAU basketball forever.

752
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 5: But we're talking about like when I was playing, like

753
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 5: thousands of dollars that you have different now that you had.

754
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 6: To invest in to just to be on the team.

755
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's after you made the team as a

756
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 5: tryout player, like you know, like you'd try out for

757
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 5: the team, they'd say you made the team, and then

758
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 5: they would tell your parents, Oh, by the way, you know,

759
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 5: it's eleven hundred dollars for him to be on the team.

760
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

761
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: So when we were growing up, for like basically au

762
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: basketball was like every town had one. It was like

763
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: a travel program, you know, so you had to pay

764
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: and you had to try out, you know, so you

765
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: had to be you know a little bit, you know,

766
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: a little bit more skills, I guess than just anybody.

767
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: You know, everybody had rec leagues and stuff to play in.

768
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: But now there are literally hundreds of basketball programs. So

769
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: like you go in and there's two things. If you

770
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,719
Speaker 1: go to play for a bigger program, Well you go

771
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: and you try out, Oh, well you're not going to

772
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: be on the elite team, but we're going to have

773
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: you one. Yeah, we're gonna have you won the sub

774
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: varsity team. Yeah, cost the same, Yeah right, but they

775
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: won't cut you. As long as you cut the check,

776
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: they won't cut you. And there'll be a place for you.

777
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 1: You know. My oldest son was a pretty good basketball player,

778
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: and he played on some of these programs and some

779
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: of the teams that he was on were pretty good.

780
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: My younger son wasn't a very good basketball player, but

781
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: he really wanted to play. So he was on a

782
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: team and he played it for a year, and you know,

783
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: he played it for a season, and to his credit,

784
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 1: he realized, you know, this is a little bit too

785
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: high level for it. But they didn't cut them. He

786
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: was probably there was like seven kids on the team,

787
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: eight kids on the team. He was probably seven or eight.

788
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: But they didn't cut them. They took it, you know,

789
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: my check, you know, clear, just like anybody else's. They

790
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: took it. And I like the programs that they played for.

791
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: I liked the coaches and stuff, but it's not for everybody.

792
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 1: And there they for basketball, for hockey, for lacrosse, for soccer.

793
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: There are literally hundreds of programs.

794
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 6: I just don't know if it made me any better.

795
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: I will say there is something to the quality of

796
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 2: the coaching and competition you get there, because you know,

797
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: back in the day, it was just your town league.

798
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: And let's face it, you know, you're playing against other

799
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: kids in your town and some other towns, and you're

800
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: not always playing the best kids. And I will say

801
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: that to a degree, you get better competition doing this.

802
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, the competition, I would agree with the coaching, yeah,

803
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: very hot and cold or miss yeah sure.

804
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 6: I just don't.

805
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 5: I don't know if it made me any better at

806
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 5: that particular sport, Like maybe it made me better all around,

807
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 5: you know, I was in better shape, I was you know,

808
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 5: more active all that, but like I don't think that

809
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 5: that's like what why I played varsity lacrosse is because

810
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 5: I was on a club team. Like I don't, I

811
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 5: don't think that was it well, like big picture for me.

812
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 4: Like I just I've been watching enoughew sports like you're

813
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 4: not going to effort your way into professional sports, like

814
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 4: you're kind of know who those kids are going to be.

815
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 4: And you know, for me, I had to effort myself

816
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 4: to play you know, holy Cross hockey, which isn't you know,

817
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 4: the pinnacle that I really dreamed of, like hockey's but

818
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 4: you know, to play a solid level of college hockey.

819
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 4: I had to do that. So I do think kids

820
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 4: are able to get to that level.

821
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: I just it's such a grind now.

822
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 4: It's like kids have to go play juniors to then

823
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 4: go play at like a D three NESTCAC school, you know,

824
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 4: like again hockey, But that just seems insane to me, Like,

825
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 4: go to college, have some fun. It's about your education.

826
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 4: You know, I played four years great experience. I wasn't

827
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 4: going to play in the NHL, but that helped me

828
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 4: get through college. And you know, I just I think

829
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 4: people are missing out on that D three stuff. The

830
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 4: people that think they're going to effort their way into

831
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 4: the pros though, that are you know, doing hockey showcases

832
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 4: in the spring, and I'm like, there's no one here.

833
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 1: People have no idea how difficult it is to even

834
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: play at the Division three level.

835
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 6: I just I don't know, Like maybe I'm marale. You

836
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 6: guys are closer to it than me.

837
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 5: But like I is it so much that their trying

838
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 5: to effort their way into the pros or they're trying

839
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 5: to effort their way into scholarship.

840
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: Money scholarship scholarship because that's what.

841
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 5: The parents angle I think of it is, is pushing

842
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 5: the kids so that they don't have to pay for college.

843
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 4: So I don't have to save up, which I get,

844
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 4: Like I have a question the nil thing. Let's say

845
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 4: I don't get a scholarship to a school, but I

846
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 4: get a bunch of nil money. Can I use that

847
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 4: nil money to pay for my schooling?

848
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: Is that? I guess you're getting money If you're not

849
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 1: a scholarship why are they paying for you?

850
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

851
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 4: Well, are there schools that get nil that aren't scholarship schools?

852
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 4: Are only schools to get nil money.

853
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 3: Scholarship schools, I would think?

854
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: So, I mean, I don't think Division three has got

855
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 2: nil money?

856
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: Well you can, But like what so I am? By

857
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: no means am I an expert at nil? Like this

858
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 1: wasn't the thing when I was in school.

859
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 4: From Twitter, I thought you were.

860
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 7: But going around telling everyone want you know, I am

861
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 7: somewhat an expert of repeating the eighth grade because it's

862
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,919
Speaker 7: ramp in Peberty, Massachusetts.

863
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: But it's about academics. Okay, So what what the the

864
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: schools that have nil packages in general? First of all,

865
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: the school itself can pay and I don't know what

866
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: the threshold is, but there's a limit and they can.

867
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 1: They can just decide to fund their whole athletic department,

868
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: so everybody could get the same. The school picks who

869
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: gets the anile money. No, that's no, that's that's just revenue.

870
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 1: Nil comes from generally outside see that that's the problem

871
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 1: is nil isn't really about naming, image and likeness anymore.

872
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: That's what the original fight was for. But now it's

873
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: just like, you know, Mikes Subaru wants to sponsor the

874
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: Holy Cross men's hockey team, and he's going to donate

875
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: five million dollars to be dispersed among the players. Like

876
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 1: that's what nil is has resorted to boosters or just.

877
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 6: Like literally paying players to transfer.

878
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,959
Speaker 1: Into the school. Right, So you need to have some

879
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: sort of ability to attract attention marketing Mike do so

880
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: super route, so they want to use you, you know what

881
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: I mean. Now there is I've heard some stories of

882
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: like and you see the human interest stuff. You know,

883
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 1: every week there's like a thirty five year old guy

884
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: who's playing Division III football in like Pennsylvania, you know,

885
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: and well that's a great story. I'm going to latch

886
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: myself onto that and get the publicity. So again, Mike

887
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 1: is so super is gonna say, I'll give you five grand.

888
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: You know, this thirty five year old linebacker that's you know,

889
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: playing with all these young kids in Division three and

890
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: maybe he can get some NIL.

891
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 8: But like.

892
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: Paul Perola playing baseball at BU non scholarship you had

893
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: to pay, like T Anthony's wasn't paying me to, you know,

894
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: to play as much as I supported T and T

895
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 1: Anthony's money. Don't forget the tugout. None of them wanted

896
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: to put any ni Owe money to it. My month

897
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 1: time about it's a natural fit, like I'm just giving

898
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: it back to you every week recirculated.

899
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 5: It is interesting that like we when we travel and

900
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 5: we don't, college sports isn't very big here in Boston

901
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 5: at least not you know, football and basketball like in

902
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 5: his other places. But when we go other places, you

903
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 5: now see college athletes with marketing deals at like local

904
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 5: restaurants and bars.

905
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 3: Now you do.

906
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 5: I remember we were in Arizona and there was a

907
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 5: scata burger. It was a cam skataboo burger that was

908
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 5: at this you know. And now like that's a an

909
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 5: il's impact.

910
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: If you watched any of the basketball like this, this

911
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: is a Yukon commercial that comes on every like thirty seconds,

912
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: you know, and I forget those. I mean that you're

913
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: getting directly paid for the Oh yeah, that's all.

914
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 2: The kids are in commercials now L from Wisconsin speaking

915
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 2: of the n C Double as last Thursday, Fred was wrong.

916
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 2: He repeatedly stated that Paul was at Loser Palooza. Fred,

917
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 2: that is when Paul takes time to go watch Northeastern basketball,

918
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 2: not the started the NCAA bracket.

919
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: This is true. Belle's nailing it.

920
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 2: As fans, we listened to the show to get the truth.

921
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: So I hope that a correction is incoming.

922
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 4: Usually those two things work together, though, right when they

923
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 4: snuck into the dance and then you.

924
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: Know, well, but then I don't go with the Then

925
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: you're torn between none of your cruise. I got I

926
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: got to pay attention right right. If Northeastern's playing Notre

927
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: Dame in the tournament, I'm not at Jake and Joe's

928
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I got it. I got a responsibility.

929
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 6: It's been in an okay tournament so far.

930
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: It's been another All Chalk, which is kind of disappointing

931
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: Florida loss. Yeah, but there's literally on Friday Favorite twenty

932
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: sixteen in.

933
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 5: All Yeah, like what do we I watched a couple

934
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 5: of the games, mostly for the draft.

935
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 6: Guys. You can't boozer.

936
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 5: They really good in the second half of that game,

937
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 5: It's kind of struggled, but that get a coff from Arkansas.

938
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 6: He's terrific, really good.

939
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: I didn't get it. I didn't get a chance to

940
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: see a whole I watched Thursday, and then I was

941
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: away for the weekend, so I saw some of the stuff.

942
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,439
Speaker 1: Flying home Sunday night, I got a chance to see

943
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: Tennessee Virginia. Saw the Iowa Florida game that Evan I wanted.

944
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 2: I watched Florida so I wanted to see that seven.

945
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 3: To nine guy.

946
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: But he doesn't play.

947
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 3: He just sits at the end of the bench.

948
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't play.

949
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 4: Was Will Upsett he missed down Merrimack taken home?

950
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: Yeah he was. He was texting me. He's like, it's amazing,

951
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 1: like they have all these things happening when when I'm away.

952
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 4: Merrimack and Yukon Hockey East battle.

953
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 6: Not a not a good one.

954
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 2: Ryan the Third from Canada says, with the addition to

955
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 2: James Hudson the Third, that now makes six players with

956
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 2: three in their name Leonard Taylor, Carlton Davis, Kevin byrn Fton, Chisholm,

957
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 2: James Hudson and Harrow Landry.

958
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: How is it even possible?

959
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 4: Is it?

960
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 1: Code?

961
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: Is the third the highest pick the highest they'll pick

962
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: when they'll have, uh have due to a Brown trade.

963
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 3: I don't know.

964
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: Is it to celebrate May's third year three games to glory?

965
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 2: What are they hiding? I'm telling you they tackle. If

966
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: they draft tackle Trey Zoon the third in April, the

967
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: league may need to step in.

968
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 4: It's funny.

969
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 3: It is a lot of fact.

970
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: I've given some thought to this, and I have absolutely

971
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: no idea why it's happening. Why do you think that

972
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: is that all of a sudden people go by junior

973
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: the third senior like I had. I had a million

974
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: friends growing up that were juniors. I had a couple

975
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: that were the thirds. No one went by that. But now,

976
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: like I would say, what the last ten fifteen years,

977
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: that's become the early prob the on the name place.

978
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I just bring it up. I don't have

979
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: any answers. I don't have any idea why just as

980
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: brothers or they call him j.

981
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 4: Yeah you got a kid, he going three.

982
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 6: He does have kids that I don't think so like.

983
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: A lot of them go by initials too. It's you know,

984
00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: like AJ, you know Anthony Jr.

985
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 6: Question Ask a question.

986
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: I don't know why.

987
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 5: It's just a been, I mean on the Patriots, especially

988
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 5: because I mean, you have to write it every time

989
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 5: we name the.

990
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:10,439
Speaker 3: Guy, don't.

991
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 6: Well, we get yelled at for that, Paul.

992
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: If if there's like at all a confusion as to

993
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: who you're talking about, I mean, I'm just going off

994
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: of like journalism. If there's a confusion of who you're

995
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 1: talking about, then you should include it. If there is none,

996
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: then you don't need to. And you're always taught. Less

997
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: is more.

998
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 6: I couldn't agree with you.

999
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: That's one of one of the staples that you're you're

1000
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,439
Speaker 1: taught is if you can say a sentence in five

1001
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 1: words or ten words and it doesn't change the meaning,

1002
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: go with the five succinctness.

1003
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 3: Yep. Maybe there's just more parents and families naming their

1004
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 3: kids grandparents, you know, than ever before.

1005
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: See, I don't think that that. I mean again, it's

1006
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: totally anecdotal. I don't think that's it. I just think

1007
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, people decide I want to be known

1008
00:44:55,360 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: as the full name, Like how many people have added it? Right,

1009
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: He's been a junior your whole life. Yeah, all of

1010
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 1: a sudden.

1011
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 4: Was Kevin byrd three when he came into the league

1012
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 4: in twenty seventeen or whatever it was. I think he

1013
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 4: was just Kevin byed back.

1014
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 5: Well, we probably I think now we make more of

1015
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 5: an effort to include the third or the junior or whatever.

1016
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: I wonder if it's there's financial implications, like I need

1017
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: to differentiate from my father because I've got my own

1018
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 2: money and my own identity and I don't want any

1019
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:26,479
Speaker 2: mix up.

1020
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 3: Down the road. I don't know.

1021
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 5: I guess maybe if like your father played by Marvin Harrison,

1022
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 5: right like, that would be.

1023
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: One during the draft process from Marvin Harrison Junior, I

1024
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: would write junior right because there is a chance that

1025
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: people don't know who you're talking about, right like.

1026
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 5: That one feels a little bit different than some of

1027
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 5: these other ones where their fathers were not professional athletes.

1028
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 6: And it's a moot.

1029
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 4: Point CARDOI all right?

1030
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: Eight five to five Patches five hundred is the hotline

1031
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 2: podcast at Patriots dot com is the email address we've

1032
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 2: been reading some emails. Let's take a call. Zach in

1033
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 2: New Hampshire has become a regular caller. What's up, Zach?

1034
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 8: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. Sure, I just

1035
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 8: wanted to know, would you guys rather Casey concepcion in

1036
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 8: the first, and a guy like Rommela Height in the second,

1037
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 8: or a guy like Cash's howl in the first and

1038
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 8: then a receiver in the second. And then also what

1039
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 8: would you think of the duo of Casey conceptsi and

1040
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 8: and Kyle Williams.

1041
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: Okay, probably go be, Probably go B right now, you'd

1042
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: rather have rather howl Cash's howl. Yeah, not to be

1043
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: confused with marsh.

1044
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 3: I feel like I liked it.

1045
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 6: The depth of edge a lot better.

1046
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I feel like the edges at sixty five

1047
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 5: are probably better than the receivers at sixty five. So yeah,

1048
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 5: if I had to, if I had my pick, I

1049
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 5: would probably say, you know, on Day two of the draft,

1050
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 5: there's still going to be a lot of starting caliber

1051
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 5: edge rushers that are good players. So is there as

1052
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 5: big of a drop off from those guys to the

1053
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 5: other guys? Whereas a receiver, I think, you know, I

1054
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 5: was uh watching yukon zone Skyler Bell the other day.

1055
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, like I can, I can see

1056
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 5: what we're working with here, but yeah, you know, we're

1057
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 5: still not talking about I'm a little.

1058
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 3: Intrigued in concepcion.

1059
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: I like, as a player, I know Evan and Mike

1060
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: have talked about sort of the replication a little bit

1061
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: of what you have. But I think he's a good player.

1062
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean right now, I'm finding myself just I

1063
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 4: mean I like him. I think, yeah, really good player.

1064
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 4: I just find myself drawn more towards size on the

1065
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 4: outside with you knowv Sky something a little bittenzel Boston.

1066
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 4: I can't. I can't quit him. I can't.

1067
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I'm with you on that Conceptcion is probably

1068
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 5: the best or one of the best, like pure separators

1069
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 5: in this class, and certainly one of the most explosive

1070
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 5: players at that position. UH has some issues with its

1071
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 5: hands and drops and things like that, but when you're

1072
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 5: targeted at a high volume, you're going to accumulate some

1073
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 5: drops over the course of a season. But that's a

1074
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 5: big question, is you know, are they looking for They're

1075
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 5: really are on that size thing like we kind of

1076
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 5: all are, and have a feeling that you know, a younger,

1077
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 5: faster mac Collins is really what they should be targeting

1078
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,240
Speaker 5: versus you know, getting another guy that can win inside

1079
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 5: and separate and do that sort of stuff.

1080
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:20,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, I find myself torn on the edges a little

1081
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 4: bit too. Of you know, there's some guys that are

1082
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 4: maybe a little bit more stout, you know, with Derek

1083
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 4: Moore from Michigan. You know, I feel like I I'm

1084
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 4: going more towards the r Thomas Mason guy, the guys

1085
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 4: that get off the ball fast and maybe aren't that big.

1086
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 4: It's almost opposite of what I feel like we'll receiver.

1087
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 4: Feel like I'm really just looking for an aggressive rusher.

1088
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 4: And I don't know if that's right, because I think that,

1089
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 4: you know, if they really want a three down guy,

1090
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 4: you know, I mean like Zion Young, you know, like somebody.

1091
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 4: Yeah he's a little bit bigger, but is he got

1092
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 4: more like three down possibility right out of the gate,

1093
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 4: or are you saying, let's just grab a guy who's

1094
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 4: got a bunch of juice on third down and we'll

1095
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 4: see if we can slowly kind of make him into

1096
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 4: what we wanted to be as an every down kind

1097
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 4: of player. I also think it's easier to find guys

1098
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 4: who can set the edge, you know, but those.

1099
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: Guys that are juiced up and get off the ball quick.

1100
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,439
Speaker 4: And you know, just have that that play style, that's

1101
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 4: that's kind of what I'm drawing to right now. I

1102
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 4: just I don't know what it's right, if it's right

1103
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 4: or wrong yet though I don't know what they're looking for.

1104
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a hard one.

1105
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 5: I think that's the hardest part about the edge class

1106
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 5: is that there's so many of them. Not all of

1107
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 5: them are going to pan out, Like not every single

1108
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 5: one of them is going to hit. So like deciding

1109
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 5: you know which ones are t J.

1110
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: Parker that's another one. Yeah, physical guy.

1111
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 5: It's a flavor draft and you have to pick correctly,

1112
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 5: and it's it's not going to be easy because there's

1113
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 5: guys that you know, Deuce was talking about that play

1114
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 5: more at like you know some you know the caller

1115
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 5: called in Abou Romelo, Heidi weighting at two hundred and

1116
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 5: forty pounds. You know, we were just talking to Q

1117
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 5: Hutchins at BC yesterday. He's two thirty three. Yeah, you know,

1118
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 5: like these are light shit is like exposive pass rushers.

1119
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,919
Speaker 5: And then you have guys like Zion Young who plays

1120
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 5: close to two sixty five, two seventy like these you know,

1121
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 5: both put their hand in the dirt at the end,

1122
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 5: you know, end of the line. You know, you have

1123
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 5: to decide which kind of type of player you.

1124
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 4: Want, you know, I think Bart just took him, gave me.

1125
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 6: I love him too.

1126
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 5: I love his plate demeanor, plays with grave violence with

1127
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 5: his hands.

1128
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 3: You said bar just took him. Is there a live

1129
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 3: draft going.

1130
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: On as well?

1131
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 5: It's really funny because whenever we do mock drafts, somewhere

1132
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 5: in the world is a mock draft going on. It's

1133
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 5: so they're so some him and I mine. Mock drafts

1134
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 5: are always so similar. It's either the same order of positions,

1135
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 5: or it's the same players or bowls.

1136
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 6: Sometimes.

1137
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 5: So he went like tackle, edge, tight end, and I

1138
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,439
Speaker 5: was like, God, damn, Like, can we just not talk

1139
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 5: about this a much?

1140
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 3: Because it's just like people don't care.

1141
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 6: It's literally the same mock draf.

1142
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:56,240
Speaker 2: Fred just had my conversation Mike and sugar Hill Hampshire.

1143
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 2: I'm wondering how much crap the cat really is. Elon

1144
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 2: Musk is worth more than the net worth of all

1145
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 2: thirty two owners combined. If he were to buy a

1146
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 2: team and have a goal of spending at least one

1147
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 2: billion in real cash a year, would he be able

1148
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 2: to I'm not asking to catch you in hypocrisy and

1149
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 2: say that the cap isn't crap, just sort of crap.

1150
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 2: But would this, But would his hypothetical team be able

1151
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 2: to spend that much each year and still stay into

1152
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: the SAR cap by paying bonuses and spreading it out

1153
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 2: decades on the cap, all while truly spending whatever they

1154
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 2: want with no limit. And please don't let Mike give

1155
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 2: a both sides equivocal answer that is meaningless and contains

1156
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 2: no information.

1157
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I mean I'd need to know very specifics.

1158
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think the short answer is yes, he

1159
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: would be able to do that if you want. He

1160
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 1: would have an endless supply of money to do it.

1161
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 1: The owners wouldn't do it profit right, Yeah, it all

1162
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: depends on how much you're willing to lose.

1163
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, retically he could do it, But you need a

1164
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 2: lot of buy in from the players to spread that

1165
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 2: money out and all that stuff.

1166
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 3: Like he said, you'd have to spread it out decades

1167
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 3: if you're spending.

1168
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: It all run on the cap. The players would get it.

1169
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: The players don't get mad, they don't care about your

1170
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: cap situations.

1171
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I'm trying to think of like what they

1172
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 2: couldn't get because like, let's just say that they all

1173
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 2: got it in a lump sum in one year, and

1174
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 2: so you were spending a billion dollars, but it was

1175
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: spread out over ten years. You know, like, is there

1176
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: a limit to how much you can give a player

1177
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 2: in one year?

1178
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 5: No, I mean, like what you're would be talking about it.

1179
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 5: That kind of exists with voided years in contracts. And

1180
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 5: so if you have owners with deep pockets that are

1181
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 5: willing to do it that way and structure it that

1182
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 5: way all of the all of the way that for

1183
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 5: the most part that its structured has to do with

1184
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 5: like real cash on hand and having liquid cash to

1185
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 5: pay out the money early on in the contract, yep,

1186
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,240
Speaker 5: which isn't not every owner has it or is willing

1187
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 5: to do that.

1188
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: And that might be an extreme, you know, like a

1189
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: billion dollars every year. And I understand what he's saying,

1190
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: and yeah, maybe you wouldn't be able to do that

1191
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: even if you had unlimited liquid cash. But the short

1192
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: answer is you could spend wildly over the cap every

1193
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: year if you wanted to.

1194
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 5: I mean, New Orleans does it their cap complying for

1195
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 5: the first time in years now, they finally cleaned it up,

1196
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,240
Speaker 5: but they went a whole I want to say, almost

1197
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 5: half decade where they were always in the red, they'd

1198
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 5: find their way back to zero somehow and then you know,

1199
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 5: just make it under the cap in time. But it

1200
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 5: theoretically Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, they could go buy a team,

1201
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 5: and they could they could you know, mortgage it just

1202
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 5: the way that anybody else.

1203
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: It was interesting, like if someone like that wanted to

1204
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: get in the game, I wonder how that would work.

1205
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: I wonder how those kinds of guys would, you know,

1206
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 1: like Cuban wasn't when he bought the Mavericks, you know,

1207
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: he sort of became Cuban, you know, like that's a

1208
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: different kind of wealth, you know, like you saw I

1209
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: think there was a list of the I don't know

1210
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: whatever three hundred wealthiest people and the owner you know,

1211
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: sports owners were not really anywhere near the top.

1212
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 9: No.

1213
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 2: But even then, like you don't have the money until

1214
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 2: you cash it in, so you can be worth as

1215
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 2: much as you know, I'm ever of billions, but it's

1216
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 2: on paper until you sell your stock or sell your

1217
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 2: company or all that, you know, And that's what that's

1218
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 2: where the liquidity comes in.

1219
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, this is all about you know, in order

1220
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 5: to really circumvent the cap, you need to be able

1221
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 5: to write a check for We just signed Millon Williams

1222
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 5: for you know, one hundred million dollars and he's got

1223
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 5: forty of it signed that you guaranteed at signing, and

1224
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 5: we can write that check today in hand of forty

1225
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 5: million dollars. Not everybody tanners or is willing to do that.

1226
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,880
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Speaker 1: I don't think we need to spend a lot of

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1281
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,320
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1282
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,760
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Speaker 1: in terms of refinement and consistency. But if you could

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Speaker 1: get him, you know, sometime and you know, like I

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Speaker 1: don't know, around four, round five, you know, probably five,

1291
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: maybe that would be a guy that would intrigue me.

1292
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: But most of the rest of these guys, you know,

1293
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: Tailing Green, you know, unbelievable combined, but not really a quarterback.

1294
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 4: If anybody stands out like lower end guys before we

1295
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 4: get into the yeah, I mean, I think Allen.

1296
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 5: Is probably gonna be a top one hundred pick still,

1297
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 5: So that's third for me, maybe fourth round.

1298
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 6: Maybe he gets into the fourth round.

1299
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Speaker 5: You mentioned Tayloring Green, I think the biggest thing with him,

1300
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Speaker 5: and not to no disrespect because I think he can

1301
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Speaker 5: play quarterback. But you know, he comes in and you

1302
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 5: draft him plays quarterback at first, you test him out

1303
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Speaker 5: there if it doesn't work out there, he's such an

1304
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Speaker 5: exceptional athlete, like is he a Terrell Prior type.

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Speaker 6: That can maybe change positions and be a wide receiver.

1306
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 6: I don't mean to do that.

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Speaker 5: I think it's disrespectful sometimes when people do that, But

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Speaker 5: it's just.

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Speaker 1: The exceptional athlete, no doubt.

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Speaker 6: He's an exceptional athlete, no doubt.

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Speaker 5: Now in terms of you know, deeper guys, I think

1312
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Speaker 5: what the question is is that you're asking is are

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Speaker 5: you really drafting somebody to.

1314
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Speaker 6: Be the backup, a pure backup?

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Speaker 5: Like, again, no disrespect Chase Daniel, right Like, are you

1316
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 5: drafting someone Brian Hoyer that's going to be the backup for.

1317
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Speaker 6: The next ten years?

1318
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 5: Or are you looking still for Joe Milton who has

1319
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 5: a little bit more upside and a little bit more

1320
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Speaker 5: of those traits. I would say Taylor Green's probably more

1321
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 5: in the Joe Milton category. You know, guy like Diego

1322
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 5: Pavia from Vanderbilt is maybe more in I think this

1323
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 5: guy's going to have a ten year NFL career as

1324
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Speaker 5: a as a backup quarterback.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 6: I think that's really where you're kind of at with

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Speaker 6: that class.

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Speaker 5: Is are we at the point now, which I think

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Speaker 5: we probably are with Drake May that he's the starter

1330
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Speaker 5: forever as long as they'll be a New England Patriot

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01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 5: as long as they can keep him a New England Patriot.

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Speaker 6: So you might as well, you know, look at a.

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Speaker 5: Caide club Nick from Clemson or Diego Pavia from Vanderbilt

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Speaker 5: or one of these guys that has a chance to

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Speaker 5: be a long term backup.

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Speaker 4: All right, well let's let's jump into the top two guys,

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Speaker 4: because tis I mean, Fernana Mendoza probably gonna be the

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Speaker 4: first overall pick.

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Speaker 1: Could chance the Patriots see him this year, you know

1340
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Speaker 1: with the Raiders.

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01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 4: And then Ty Simpson another guy who probably first rounder,

1342
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 4: but more maybe more of a developmental guy. We know

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01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 4: teams like the Jets need a quarterback. But let's just

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Speaker 4: start with Mendoza. What a year National Championship heisman. I mean,

1345
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 4: he saw him at the combine, looks the part completely

1346
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Speaker 4: under control.

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Speaker 9: He's gonna be a good player. Yeah, I just take

1348
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 9: him for the leadership. You know, he's a big locker

1349
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Speaker 9: room guy. Led that team, really changed the culture there

1350
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 9: with their coach. Yeah, probably going to be the Raiders guy.

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Speaker 9: I think they're gonna have to steal with him. Something

1352
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 9: that's interested with Mendoza is I'd like to see where

1353
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 9: you think he would have went last year like with Award,

1354
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Speaker 9: I just don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think the number one overall.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the Drake May draft is probably more of a

1357
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,959
Speaker 5: conversation between those three guys. But I think we would

1358
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 5: have been having a conversation of those four guys, Like

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Speaker 5: I think he would have been in the same tier

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01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 5: as Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels, and Drake May.

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Speaker 6: Now would he have had the.

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Speaker 5: Same exact college football season if all those guys were

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Speaker 5: in college football still, and you know, would he been

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Speaker 5: the Heisman Trophy winner? I guess maybe he would have

1365
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 5: had more competition for something like that. But if he

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01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 5: had the same exact season he had it Indiana last

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01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 5: year with that class, he would have been the fourth

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01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 5: horseman there, you know, with the group. So he's he's

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Speaker 5: really good. He's going to be a really good player,

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Speaker 5: I think in the league.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think?

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Speaker 1: Probably the Tye Simpson and Alabama So I think both

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Speaker 1: of these guys are underrated Athletically, I think Mendoza shows

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Speaker 1: you that he's he's a quarterback. He's not just sort

1375
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: of back there throwing the ball. He can move around

1376
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,439
Speaker 1: and run when he's not going to make a living

1377
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: doing that seven rushing touchdowns last year, And I think

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Speaker 1: Simpson is a little bit more of a projection because

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Speaker 1: he didn't the first of all, he didn't play as much.

1380
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Speaker 1: And if you look at the first half of last

1381
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Speaker 1: season for Alabama, and I think I said this to you,

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Speaker 1: Evan during the course of the season. At one point,

1383
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: I was like, he's the best quarterback in the country.

1384
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden it kind of changed and

1385
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: he didn't play as well in the second half of

1386
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Speaker 1: the season. I think he got beat up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I think he was dealing with some injuries, but there's

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01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: there's some skill there to work with. He has a

1389
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Speaker 1: really really and I in my view when NFL arm,

1390
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Speaker 1: you know, he's not like Drake may or Josh Allen,

1391
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 1: like Whether Howitzer or anything like that. But I think

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Speaker 1: he quote unquote can make all the throws. I like

1393
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: both of these guys. I like mendoz Are a lot

1394
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: more because there's been a lot more production and consistency.

1395
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't sleep on ty Simpson. I think someone

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Speaker 1: at the end of the first round one of these teams.

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Speaker 1: I know people have sort of dismissed this but like

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01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 1: I think you'd make a ton of sense for a

1399
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: team like the Rams, who are going to need a

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01:02:56,000 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: replacement for Stafford soon. You completely take off the no

1401
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: possibility of him having to play in you know, one

1402
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: unless Stafford gets hurt. I think that's the kind of

1403
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: development that could lead to him having a successful career.

1404
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think the interesting thing you said there about ty Simpson,

1406
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 5: we can talk about him as a player.

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01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 6: I mean, I think his best.

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01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 5: Attribute is probably his ability to throw a touch and

1409
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 5: timing to the intermediate deep part of the field. He

1410
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 5: throws those nice catch a bowl pillows you know that

1411
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 5: hit guys in stride. You know, watching guys like Jeremy

1412
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 5: Bernard for example, who we're going to talk about here. Yeah,

1413
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 5: in a second, with the wide receivers, you know, he

1414
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 5: would run those crossing routes and ty Simpson would put

1415
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 5: it right on him in stride. If you ask him

1416
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 5: to try to drive the ball down the field, especially

1417
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 5: outside the numbers, it gets a little iffy. And there

1418
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 5: were times where he's throwing the far hash and he's

1419
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 5: trying to get the ball out outside the numbers and

1420
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Speaker 5: receiver it's it's a you know, he's throwing skip passes,

1421
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 5: you know, to his receivers, like those are the things

1422
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 5: that you worry a little bit with him. But I

1423
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 5: want to more talk about what you just mentioned. The

1424
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 5: back half of the first round. The Patriots are sitting

1425
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 5: there at thirty one. We obviously know the Patriots are

1426
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 5: not taking a quarterback at thirty one. So is this

1427
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 5: a situation where somebody at the top of the second

1428
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 5: round might want to come up and grab Ty Simpson

1429
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 5: before the night is out and the Patriots might have

1430
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 5: a trade partner there and a trade back kind of

1431
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 5: candidate situation. I think there are a handful of teams

1432
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 5: that could be, you know, in the market for a

1433
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 5: quarterback like Ty Simpson that makes some sense to come

1434
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 5: up and get him, you know, from the second round,

1435
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 5: top of the second round, to come back up to

1436
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Speaker 5: thirty one.

1437
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Speaker 4: All right, well, let's move on to wide receiver because

1438
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 4: that's a position that hey, we always need, right, We're

1439
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 4: always looking for the number and one ride receiver. I

1440
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 4: think the interesting thing now, of course, as we said

1441
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 4: at the top of the show, is that they've now

1442
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 4: signed Romeo Dobbs, who seems to be a one for

1443
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 4: one replacement for what Stefon Diggs, and the search now

1444
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 4: continues for an outside receiver.

1445
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: You know, of course, Kayshan.

1446
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 4: BOUTI had a really good year, really good hands, nice

1447
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 4: connection down the field. So I found myself over the

1448
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 4: last few days kind of gravitating more towards the outside guys.

1449
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 4: And I know there's a different variety. And you know,

1450
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 4: first I'll just rattle off the top three names of

1451
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 4: Jordan Tyson, Cornell Tat, and Machayelem And I feel like

1452
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 4: those guys probably going to go above where the Patriots

1453
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 4: are going to pick and I'm going to go. And

1454
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 4: I know I'm going to get some pushback on this one,

1455
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 4: and I'm ready for it. But Denzel Boston, I can't.

1456
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 4: I know, not a burner, and we need speed and

1457
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 4: that kind of thing. But I just feel like this

1458
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 4: guy is a stud. And how many times do you

1459
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 4: have to take a chance on a guy before you

1460
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 4: find one that, even though he doesn't have speed, his

1461
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 4: size and his strength just overshadow that to me.

1462
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 1: Big, powerful hands, you know.

1463
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 4: Strong outside presence, a number of different things that you

1464
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 4: can do with him, maybe not the breakaway speed, but

1465
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 4: return punts.

1466
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: You know, has a little bit of wiggle to him.

1467
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 4: So I would just kind of start with him because

1468
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 4: I feel like he's in that area of the late

1469
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 4: twenties and I, you know, we can talk about his

1470
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 4: speed and I get why people might be afraid of him.

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Speaker 1: And now great moments in.

1472
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Speaker 4: History.

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Speaker 1: He never came to Northwestern. Oh they did. They played

1474
01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 1: Ohio State my sophomore yearage got oh oh yeah, I

1475
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: to it. What the signs did you have? Like Herbstreet

1476
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: was that Herbstreet was at Northwest. The guest picker was

1477
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: Brett Hosberger because he's an alum. He actually got kicked off.

1478
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Speaker 4: I went for her get on.

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Speaker 6: Well, I was like, you could see I think you

1480
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 6: are looking alive.

1481
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 4: Dead shot up, but if you look.

1482
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were there. Yeah yeah.

1483
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 6: I also I was very excited.

1484
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 1: I uh just wanted to stay around after and ask

1485
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: questions and you wanted to grab some tripods. WHOA what

1486
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 1: are we doing?

1487
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 9: That's another great moment from.

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Speaker 2: All right back here at Patriots on filtered eight five

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Speaker 2: five past five hundred is the Hotline podcast at Patriots

1490
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Speaker 2: dot com is the email address kind of a free

1491
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 2: form Tuesday jazz. Honestly, if you were yeah, what a

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Speaker 2: you know, school n i L Talk Youth Sports.

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Speaker 1: Salary call Swing Tackles.

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Speaker 2: Nathan writes in He's from Iowa. Want to give a

1495
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 2: quick shout out to Evan for recognizing Dom Orange from

1496
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Speaker 2: Iowa State as someone who just graduateds someone from just

1497
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Speaker 2: just graduated from there. He's probably going to be one

1498
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 2: of the last Cyclones drafted for a while because Matt

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Speaker 2: Campbell is going to Penn State.

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Speaker 3: Now to my question, do you guys watch faith in

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Speaker 3: the replacement?

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01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 2: No?

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01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:31,919
Speaker 1: I know, Matt Campbell's very good.

1504
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 2: Do you guys think it's a little weird that the

1505
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 2: Eagles GM was asking for a first and the third

1506
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 2: for a J.

1507
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Speaker 3: Brown?

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01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 2: Considering that's what he paid for him a few years

1509
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,479
Speaker 2: ago when he got him from the Titans. I feel

1510
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 2: as if his price would only go down, even if

1511
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 2: it was just a little bit, considering he's aging.

1512
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 1: I don't think it's weird.

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01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 4: It's all the negotiation.

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01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, where else are you going to start?

1515
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: I think you're looking at what did Waddle just get for?

1516
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 1: You know, it was.

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Speaker 5: First and a bunch of stuff, first, third and the

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01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 5: fourth round pick swap.

1519
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 3: Or something like that.

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01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that.

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01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:09,959
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: So I mean there's like a year difference between Wattle

1523
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 1: and Brown m like this, like, if you want a player,

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01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 1: but you only want him, you know, if you don't

1525
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 1: have to give anything up, then you don't really want

1526
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 1: him that much. And I think Howie Roseman might end

1527
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 1: up having to trade this guy. I don't know, maybe

1528
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 1: maybe he'll end up having to take pennies on the dollar.

1529
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 1: But I think the fact that he's holding out as

1530
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 1: long as he is, and you know, this whole June

1531
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 1: first thing, I don't think he's just going to give

1532
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 1: him away.

1533
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 2: Did you hear Schefter's report, you know, quote report where

1534
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,640
Speaker 2: he kind of stated what everybody knew but put it

1535
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 2: in one little package. I don't know, he came out,

1536
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 2: you know, one of his videos and he just said that, uh,

1537
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 2: you know, the Patriots could still be in the running,

1538
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 2: you know, after June first, but things happened before then

1539
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 2: that could take them out of the running depending on

1540
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,799
Speaker 2: who they draft, and blah blah blah blah.

1541
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 3: You know.

1542
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 6: You know, well, I just think that's the hardest part,

1543
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 6: right is, Like.

1544
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 4: If they don't draft somebody, does that mean they have

1545
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 4: aj Brown in the bag, Or if they do draft him,

1546
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 4: doesn't mean they don't.

1547
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 2: Well, he also said, and there's no way that there's

1548
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 2: an under the table. Yeah, because of all the problems

1549
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 2: the Patriots had with spygate and the flay Gate, they

1550
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 2: would never do that.

1551
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 3: Okay, did somebody say that they did do that?

1552
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 5: Like he's gotta was the handshake thing that I not

1553
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:35,639
Speaker 5: that it's news, but like it was news. Yeah, No, Jason,

1554
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 5: Like I have a hard time all this is just

1555
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 5: being regurgitated in different ways over and over again.

1556
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 1: But but I don't think that that would be that's

1557
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 1: not even in the same.

1558
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 2: But why would why would the Eagles, you know, do

1559
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 2: that with the Patriots? Why not if you're gonna hold out,

1560
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 2: hold out, maybe somebody after June first, I'll offer you

1561
01:09:57,960 --> 01:09:58,719
Speaker 2: even more.

1562
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 1: So, I would say after the draft. Yeah, like wait

1563
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 1: to see what everybody has after the draft.

1564
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 3: But like, why would you already have a deal in play?

1565
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 1: Because the Eagles have already talked to everybody, and they

1566
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 1: know what the best offer they have on the table

1567
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 1: is right now, they're going to hold out. If June

1568
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 1: first is important to them, they'll hold out to June first,

1569
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,679
Speaker 1: But then they'll also wait and reassess after the draft.

1570
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 1: Because someone like if if Deuce is right, and they

1571
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 1: end up drafting a guy in the first round. If

1572
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: the Patriots draft ends al Boston, then maybe they're not

1573
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 1: as willing to give up, you know, draft.

1574
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 5: But that's like why, you know, Duce and I are

1575
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 5: going to do mock our first mock drafts this week,

1576
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 5: and it's so hard to determine whether or not you

1577
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 5: take a receiver in the top one hundred because if

1578
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 5: you then also then go out and trade for AJ

1579
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 5: Brown or you have that traded you know, pending agreement

1580
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 5: or whatever, like you already even if you just trade

1581
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,560
Speaker 5: for AJ Brown, you already have seven receivers on the

1582
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 5: roster that have legitimate chances of making the team, and

1583
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 5: four or five of those guys are locks essentially, And

1584
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 5: so then you're like really getting into an area where

1585
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 5: you've invested. Now, you traded for a guy, you signed

1586
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,639
Speaker 5: a guy to a pretty big contract in Romeo Dobbs,

1587
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 5: and you drafted one high two years in a row,

1588
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 5: with Kyle Williams included in that as well. It's a

1589
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 5: lot to invest in one position if that's the route

1590
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 5: that you're going to go.

1591
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 1: And the other part is, you know, with the whole

1592
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:25,560
Speaker 1: draft compensation. So if you're going to wait until June first,

1593
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 1: then that those picks, in my view, and I think

1594
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 1: most people's view, become more valuable because the twenty seven

1595
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:34,480
Speaker 1: draft is considered to be stronger.

1596
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 5: I think that's the most fascinating part of it to me,

1597
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 5: because you know, it's the thirty first pick in this

1598
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 5: year's draft. You don't know what the pick is for

1599
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 5: the Patriots in twenty twenty seven. So if I'm the Patriots,

1600
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 5: I'm saying, well, we think we're going to be a

1601
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 5: good team, but if Drake May gets hurt, then we're

1602
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 5: gonna be giving you a top ten pick. R You know,

1603
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 5: there's always that unknown, and so I wonder if that

1604
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 5: actually hurts the compensation a little bit, because usually when

1605
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 5: you know what you're getting, it's a little bit more

1606
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 5: easier to the value.

1607
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:07,839
Speaker 1: Do you see this this story they're showing the Maryland

1608
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 1: women's coach. So the player that she's yelling at went

1609
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 1: to my kids elementary school year older. Yeah, she's a

1610
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 1: year older than Will. Wow, she's a terrific player. She

1611
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 1: played she played it too. Now she transferred to Maryland

1612
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 1: because she wanted coaching, and I yell she wanted harder coaching.

1613
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she wanted more cash. Chris and Raleigh, North Carolina. Question,

1614
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 2: how might a post June first trade for AJ Brown

1615
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 2: affect the Patriots approach to twenty sixth draft? If the

1616
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 2: cost is twenty seven first and fourth, for example, how

1617
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 2: does that change the approach this year?

1618
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 3: More likely to spend.

1619
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 2: Premium asset on future right tackle? Might the strategy shift

1620
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 2: to spend both years picks?

1621
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1622
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 5: Well, this is exactly what we the dock draft exercise

1623
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 5: really is. And at this point, and I just said it,

1624
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 5: like they really feel strongly that they're going to have

1625
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 5: AJ Brown on this team by September. I don't see

1626
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 5: any reason to blow another top one hundred pick on

1627
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 5: a wide receiver.

1628
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 2: In a side or pet peeve or a comment. Despite

1629
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 2: plenty of coverage, the detailed discussion about an AJ Brown

1630
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 2: trade has been oddly sloppy. It's a top news story,

1631
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 2: but almost every take bails out three to four sentences

1632
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,640
Speaker 2: in with some lame I won't pretend to know all

1633
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,599
Speaker 2: the salary cap details, escape Hatch.

1634
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 3: I don't know what he's really talking about.

1635
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 5: Well, I can tell you the salary cap details. So

1636
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 5: it's going to give you a popsicle headache. And so

1637
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:33,760
Speaker 5: I just decided to tell you June first is the

1638
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 5: day to know. And just trust me that it's an

1639
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 5: important factor in all of this. If I want me

1640
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 5: to outline exactly what it all is, we can try

1641
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:44,759
Speaker 5: to do all the math in our head and figure

1642
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 5: it out.

1643
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 1: The other stuff that might be of interest here is yesterday.

1644
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 1: I know there was this sort of ground swell around

1645
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 1: AJ Brown that he's looking for another deal. I'm sure

1646
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 1: he is so like that that could complicate it further too.

1647
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 4: And you got some intel this weekend, Paul, you were

1648
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 4: doing some digging on A. J.

1649
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: Brown.

1650
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 4: It wasn't on vacation for me.

1651
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 1: It was the people I spoke to in Philly, you

1652
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 1: know the Philly Philly around with the I have some

1653
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 1: Philly people, no fit, total fans. Uh, they're all in

1654
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 1: on A J. Brown. They think he's terrific. They they

1655
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 1: they want him to go because they feel like the

1656
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:26,799
Speaker 1: team has been mistreating him. Jalen Hurts is the problem

1657
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 1: according to my sources. And uh, they think he has

1658
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 1: plenty left in his tank and he he will be great.

1659
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 1: He will be great elsewhere. So there was no guy,

1660
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 1: I said, the knees not a part, No, no, no

1661
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,679
Speaker 1: problem at all. This is all this is. He's he's

1662
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 1: miserable and it's all because it hurts, and he blamed hurts.

1663
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 1: His malaise is Evidently I think he's recently gotten married

1664
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 1: and there's been this another voice. Yeah, but I don't

1665
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 1: think Hailey Steinfeld is telling josh Allen not to run. Evidently,

1666
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 1: I mean because Josh Allen ran all over the place

1667
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:05,480
Speaker 1: last year. Evidently Jalen Hurts has been sort of advised

1668
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 1: to protect himself more and not run as much, and

1669
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 1: he hasn't been as good as a result. It's a

1670
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 1: little bit of a just hel thing going.

1671
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 5: On there are like there is an interesting conversation with

1672
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:21,480
Speaker 5: aj Brown about some of the decline and production. Specifically,

1673
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 5: I would say in yards after the catch, and this

1674
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 5: is a guy that used to be a dynamic ball

1675
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 5: carrier in one of the best yards after the catch

1676
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 5: receivers in football. In the last two three years there

1677
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 5: has been kind of a steady decline. Now is that

1678
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 5: the routes he's being targeted on the offense? Jalen Hurts, Like,

1679
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 5: who's the billion There's probably a lot of context in

1680
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 5: film watching that needs to decide.

1681
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 6: What those numbers are.

1682
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 5: But I think that one of the things could be

1683
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 5: health and wear and tear and all that good stuff too.

1684
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 5: It's all a possibility.

1685
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 2: Jeff and Canada on youth sports. He thinks the decline

1686
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:00,719
Speaker 2: in youth sports can mostly be a tribute to money,

1687
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 2: those few that have it and the rest of us

1688
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 2: who don't. My son is a senior in high school.

1689
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 2: He's played three sports all four years. He's had one

1690
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 2: winning season out of a possible twelve. The school he

1691
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 2: attends is filled with ordinary people earning two incomes to

1692
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 2: have a decent life. We can't compete against schools that

1693
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 2: are upper middle class towns where their son or daughter

1694
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 2: has been enrolled in ten thousand dollars in camps and

1695
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 2: trips each year to get better. So many kids are saying,

1696
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 2: why bother if you have no chance to win. We

1697
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 2: need to start separating divisions and conferences not based on

1698
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 2: school enrollment, but by affluence. It's the same thing that

1699
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 2: is ruining NCAA, particularly the men's basketball tournament. I'd love

1700
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 2: to hear Paul's take on that too. Maybe Christian in

1701
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 2: LA could help support youth athletics for regular people by

1702
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:46,720
Speaker 2: Paul of decent use Toyota.

1703
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 1: I strongly agree with the college part of the affluents,

1704
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 1: but not the high school. I don't think there's any

1705
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 1: correlation between good programs based on affluence. A matter of fact,

1706
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 1: in Massachusetts, the more tony and affluent the suburb, it's

1707
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,480
Speaker 1: generally the smaller the school and the lesser of the athletics.

1708
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 3: I don't know about that. It wasn't the case, right

1709
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 3: Sharon and Walles.

1710
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 1: It's a little different.

1711
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 4: With yeah, thank you, thank you.

1712
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, it was like the no.

1713
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 1: Well, because but lacrosse isn't offered at every school.

1714
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 3: No it is now, isn't it.

1715
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 4: I mean it's grown a lot. Oh god, No, it wasn't.

1716
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 4: I wasn't in my high school initially, when I know

1717
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:33,679
Speaker 4: it's there now.

1718
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 1: But yeah, like I grew up around the city, none

1719
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 1: of them haven't nothing like literally none now. Now I'm

1720
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 1: just thinking about, like, you know, some of the cities

1721
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 1: and towns around where I live, Like Lindfield is far

1722
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:56,759
Speaker 1: more affluent than Peabody. Peebody would kill Lindfield and everything. Yeah,

1723
01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 1: you know, in general terms, I'm like, I'm not there's

1724
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:03,679
Speaker 1: there's different sports, you know. Might yeah, but like in general,

1725
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 1: in general terms, when Peeboty's normal, like a normal team,

1726
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:09,600
Speaker 1: they would beat them in boys and girls basketball, they

1727
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 1: would beat Lynnfield in baseball, they would be certainly Winfield

1728
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 1: in foot No, Pebody's a bigger school. That's why they

1729
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 1: go by enrollment, not affluents. That's my whole point. Yeah,

1730
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 1: like they just have it's a much higher level. You know.

1731
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 1: Pebody's a Division one slash two school. Linfield's like a

1732
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 1: Division four five school.

1733
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 4: I do think there's a something to be said for

1734
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 4: the sports though specific Whereas you know, basketball programs you

1735
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 4: need fewer kids. You don't need a large budget to

1736
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 4: be good at basketball, hockey teams, lacrosse teams. You know,

1737
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 4: I look at Walpole and Sharon. I mean, Sharon probably

1738
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 4: more affluent than Walpole with Walpole, same thing.

1739
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:47,679
Speaker 1: Much bigger school, bigger school.

1740
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 4: But you know, but they have no problem with sports

1741
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 4: in that town either, you know.

1742
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 2: So it's the smaller sports like hockey, basketball. The better

1743
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 2: schools are the private schools because they basically recruit.

1744
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 4: But a lot of people felt Canton was the best

1745
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 4: hockey team in the in the state, this year, and

1746
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 4: I mean that was you know, in their D two school,

1747
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 4: you know, public school.

1748
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 1: So I mean I get it. In general, the private

1749
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 1: schools have an advantage in all sports.

1750
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean Saint John's Prep is Yeah, I

1751
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 5: mean our butts for four years and everything.

1752
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 1: But it's the biggest. It's also the biggest school. You know,

1753
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 1: maybe Brockton is bigger. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1754
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 5: I I was going down this rabbit hole about the

1755
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 5: soccer in America because like, I can't really figure out

1756
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 5: why we can't get better on the national level at soccer,

1757
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:37,600
Speaker 5: like US soccer and a lot of the stuff, and

1758
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 5: I know nothing about it. I'm just telling you what

1759
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 5: I read a lot of this stuff was that in

1760
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 5: other countries it's not expensive to play soccer, and for

1761
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 5: some reason, in the United States, they've turned soccer into

1762
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 5: this like posh like club thing, and so now like

1763
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:53,600
Speaker 5: you have to be paying all this money to be

1764
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 5: able to be on club teams and travel and all

1765
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 5: this kind of stuff.

1766
01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 2: What I will say, though, is when it comes to

1767
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 2: the great athletes, regardless of where you are on the

1768
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 2: socioeconomic scale, if you are a great athlete with all

1769
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:11,480
Speaker 2: these different programs, you get discovered.

1770
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 3: Right, They're on the lookout everywhere for talent, right.

1771
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 5: But I think it's like about you know, what, are

1772
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 5: the parents wanting the kids to play at the young

1773
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 5: age when they don't have completely It's not.

1774
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:22,759
Speaker 3: Even up to the parent.

1775
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 2: It's these guys go into the living room and tell

1776
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:27,640
Speaker 2: the mother we can do this.

1777
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 5: We can do this maybe at a certain age, but

1778
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 5: the kid has to start playing soccer at some point

1779
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 5: at five years old.

1780
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 3: I'm talking pretty young.

1781
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 1: So my thing is, and again I'm like you, this

1782
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 1: is anecdotal. I don't have the answers, but I I've

1783
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 1: always sort of been one of these people. Worldwide, soccer

1784
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 1: is the number one sport. So if you are the

1785
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 1: best athlete in your village, you're playing soccer in this country.

1786
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 1: That's not the case, that's right, But so what do

1787
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 1: you think, like how good do you think a guy

1788
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 1: like Kobe Bryant would have been at soccer? Like an

1789
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:11,839
Speaker 1: athlete of like Lebron James, Like these guys could dominate soccer.

1790
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 1: Maybe if they played soccer when they were eight years

1791
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 1: old they a little yeah, but like okay, so let's

1792
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 1: go it's like a small ever, you know, Stefan Diggs,

1793
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 1: like with that kind of athleticism and quickness and shifty

1794
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:27,719
Speaker 1: this year, you don't think he could dominate. But maybe

1795
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:30,719
Speaker 1: they don't play soccer here. It's not the number one sport.

1796
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 1: But I would say funnel into their their sports that

1797
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 1: they they want to make millions and millions of dollars.

1798
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 5: In but they're good at But like we were, We've

1799
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 5: won just won the gold medal in hockey, we won

1800
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 5: the gold medal in basketball. The last time we competed

1801
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 5: on the world stage, they were just in the final

1802
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 5: of the World Baseball Classic on both sides. And so

1803
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 5: like the only sport, major sport that we can't compete

1804
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 5: at that top level at for some.

1805
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,679
Speaker 1: Reason, the only ones make millions and millions of dollars.

1806
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:00,720
Speaker 6: Well you well, but you do overseas, So like it's

1807
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 6: you don't hear.

1808
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 1: Well, think about it again, do you want to do that?

1809
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 1: Or do you want to play in the United States?

1810
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:08,679
Speaker 5: If if Real Madrid is going to pay you thirty

1811
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 5: million dollars a year to play for them, then I'm

1812
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:11,679
Speaker 5: sure people will move to Spain.

1813
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 1: Would you rather make thirty million dollars a year and

1814
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 1: play in Los Angeles? I guess that's the choice that

1815
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:17,920
Speaker 1: you're making.

1816
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 5: I just find it odd, Like you can if we're

1817
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:24,400
Speaker 5: great at hockey, we're great at basketball, we're great at baseball,

1818
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 5: we're great at all these other major sports, and then

1819
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 5: there's this one sport that would be lucky if we

1820
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 5: make it to the knockout stage in the world coming.

1821
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 1: So and again. But I would just say, there's no

1822
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:37,799
Speaker 1: such thing as like like an endless supply of talent.

1823
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 1: So you just said it. We dominated in this, We

1824
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:44,799
Speaker 1: dominated in that. We dominated, Well, we don't dominate in soccer.

1825
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 1: You know, it's not just an unlimited amount of athletes.

1826
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,759
Speaker 1: Our athletes are all dominating in all these other sports.

1827
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 2: Canada is not it's not a huge country, but it's

1828
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 2: not a small country. But they funnel their kids to hockey.

1829
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 2: If all those kids that played hockey played soccer, they'd

1830
01:22:59,040 --> 01:22:59,759
Speaker 2: probably be.

1831
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 6: But Canada is starting like they're Canada is really good

1832
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 6: at basketball.

1833
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 1: Now they're getting they're getting good in basketball.

1834
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 5: Ye too, Yeah, so like they're there. It's starting to

1835
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 5: happen a little bit with Dad. I don't know what

1836
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 5: is driving that, but you know, obviously the MVP of

1837
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 5: the league is Canadian. So like you know, like they

1838
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 5: are starting to get a little bit better at that.

1839
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 5: I just find it like I think that this is

1840
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,680
Speaker 5: I'm sure Paul is right, but I think this is

1841
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 5: also just like infrastructure in the way that we.

1842
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 1: I think it's cultural.

1843
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 4: I think it's cultural too, like our country doesn't love

1844
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 4: the sport of soccer, right like Canada loves hockey. It's

1845
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 4: part of their fabric. I mean, football is part of

1846
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 4: our fabric. Baseball is part of our part of our fabric.

1847
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 4: Soccer just has never gotten there. The American people just

1848
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 4: have never fallen to the participation in soccer at the

1849
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:48,679
Speaker 4: youth level. I don't know, it still does dwarf all

1850
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 4: the other sports. It was always the feeder sport grown

1851
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 4: up for me that everybody played soccer, but then you

1852
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:53,599
Speaker 4: went off.

1853
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,799
Speaker 2: To but you went off to play the sexier sports.

1854
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 1: Our culture was a couple. I mean all the stuff

1855
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 1: I've heard, you know, and I know Fred has two

1856
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 1: Like since I was a little kid, Soccer's coming. It's

1857
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 1: going to be the number one sport. It's the number

1858
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 1: one sport worldwide. Yeah, And for us it was always

1859
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 1: like I didn't I never played, but I know a

1860
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 1: lot of people who did play because it was the

1861
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 1: sport that you could get into the earliest, like they

1862
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 1: would jump in. And that's why I think the youth

1863
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 1: soccer numbers were bigger than everything else. And then, like

1864
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 1: Mike said, and once you played for a couple of

1865
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:28,800
Speaker 1: years and you realized it's a lot of running and

1866
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 1: it's not all that fun, and you move on. And again,

1867
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 1: that might be an indictment of the US in our

1868
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 1: you know, maybe our culture and whatnot. I'm not saying

1869
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 1: that we're right. I'm just saying that's kind of what

1870
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 1: it is.

1871
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 5: It's just too bad because you obviously we're hosting the

1872
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 5: World Cup in a couple of months, and I do

1873
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 5: think watching people rally around the hockey team, watching people

1874
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 5: rally around the baseball team, the basketball team, whenever these

1875
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 5: things come up, Like if the US and men's national

1876
01:24:57,479 --> 01:24:59,879
Speaker 5: team was good at soccer, we'd.

1877
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 1: Rally, we'd rally, we would and I wouldn't.

1878
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 6: Okay, well, you're like.

1879
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 1: Like I just don't really enjoy the sport, but that but.

1880
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 5: I I am like people would rally to it because

1881
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 5: it's even if it's just for the love of the country,

1882
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 5: people would rally to watching it. And supporting it, and

1883
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 5: we just aren't good enough at.

1884
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 6: It, right.

1885
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 1: I'll tell you I didn't really rally around the World

1886
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 1: Baseball Classic Baseball Team.

1887
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't even.

1888
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 1: Because I just I didn't really find it all that.

1889
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:29,599
Speaker 1: I mean, I like baseball, but it's not something I'm

1890
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 1: going to go out of my way to watch a game.

1891
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 1: And you know, like the hockey, you know, men's and

1892
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 1: women's hockey. I was glued to those games. Yeah, absolutely,

1893
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 1: and and you know basketball to a lesser extent, but

1894
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 1: the hockey.

1895
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 2: Fantastic speing Fresno back to uh Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk,

1896
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 2: he said, if they if those two of the kinds

1897
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 2: of people in the world engaged in the NFL hyper

1898
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 2: spending exercise described earlier, with that reset player pay scale,

1899
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 2: so that only the world's wealthiest would be able to

1900
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 2: meet the market where it's at. This seems like a

1901
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 2: good subplot for a dystopian film. Bar opening scene, a

1902
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 2: six year old Musk loses at flat football but wins

1903
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 2: a dream of ruining the game. I'm guessing the main

1904
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 2: protection against this happening would be fewer than seventy five

1905
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 2: percent of owners allowing bezos and those types to buy

1906
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:27,000
Speaker 2: a team. Well, I mean you have the perfect example

1907
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 2: with Premier Soccer. There's no salary cap there, so it's

1908
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 2: all the chics and these people with endless pockets, you know, uh, buying.

1909
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:41,680
Speaker 1: That's the most popular sport in the world. As I'm

1910
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 1: being over the head on a daily basis, you're.

1911
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:47,480
Speaker 6: About to take over this stadium.

1912
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:53,839
Speaker 2: So tomorrow, friend, Yeah, we've got friends in Brazil on Thursday.

1913
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 1: Here friendly, four o'clock.

1914
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 3: Tip.

1915
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 4: I'm very interested to see what what the atmosphere is like.

1916
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 4: Is it a little of what the World Cup is

1917
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:01,559
Speaker 4: going to be like?

1918
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 3: Oh, it'll be festive. Yeah, yeah, we did.

1919
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:07,839
Speaker 5: The World Cup games that are here, not France and Brazil,

1920
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 5: so this is actually probably the best game that we're

1921
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:10,679
Speaker 5: getting here.

1922
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 1: We'll be doing our show.

1923
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 4: It'll be like pregaming here.

1924
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 2: Robin Coventry talking about flag football. Here in the UK,

1925
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:22,799
Speaker 2: we've seen a growth in walking football and walking rugby.

1926
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 2: This likely stems from the fact that many of us

1927
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 2: continue to play casually into our thirties and forties, then

1928
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:32,679
Speaker 2: need to ease into less intensive versions. There were also

1929
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 2: fourteen official tiers of football. I guess he means soccer

1930
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 2: top four professional. The rest are non league, but any

1931
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 2: team could theoretically get promoted to the Premier League, so

1932
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 2: plenty of opportunities to play competitively. Does anything similar to

1933
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 2: walking football exist over there?

1934
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:49,920
Speaker 6: Pickleball?

1935
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1936
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 6: Right, The way he was describing it made me think

1937
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 6: of pickleball.

1938
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 2: I if not, could you envisage a reduced contact version

1939
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 2: of football that jents of a certain age look at

1940
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 2: the chaps to your left and right could participate in

1941
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:05,440
Speaker 2: just for fun and exercise.

1942
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:08,760
Speaker 4: No, I mean I had to actively abstain from the

1943
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:10,880
Speaker 4: media football game a couple of years ago.

1944
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 2: I mean they have like somebody, do they limit the

1945
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:15,719
Speaker 2: amount of checking?

1946
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 1: Well, there's no check.

1947
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 4: Yeh, that's like it's a great I mean there's a

1948
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 4: lot of old guy leagues that are great low impact skating,

1949
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 4: but with.

1950
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 1: Football at break tack tackle football would not be something

1951
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 1: I do.

1952
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 5: But even you could do flag like they're planting and

1953
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 5: the cutting and like build for that anymore.

1954
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:39,639
Speaker 1: That's why I didn't play in the media game. Oh yeah, yeah,

1955
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 1: I mean like blow my achilles and I'm not going

1956
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 1: to do it again.

1957
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 6: Literally, somebody literally.

1958
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 1: Did first interception this stadium. Don't forget that it was.

1959
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 2: When you did blow out your achilles you came back quick?

1960
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 3: Was that because you didn't well?

1961
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 1: No, and it was it was because I had the

1962
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:03,600
Speaker 1: brief surgery that night. Did you know?

1963
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 6: So who's who came back faster? Jason Tatum or.

1964
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 1: Paul obviously to play in an NBA game that I

1965
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 1: would not have been able to play in. That's a

1966
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 1: little bit unfair, But yeah, I mean.

1967
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:16,560
Speaker 6: It's it was very similarities.

1968
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 1: Ten months is very much average. It's not like super fast,

1969
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 1: It's not certainly, wouldn't blame him for taking too long.

1970
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 1: It's right, it's right, it's right, right amount of time.

1971
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 3: Uh oh, Paul and Evan might take exception of this.

1972
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:37,960
Speaker 2: I think Joe and Michigan says Jasn is good, but

1973
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 2: a good cover guy seemed to take him away.

1974
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 3: Our boy Gonzo did that in the Super Bowl?

1975
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:43,640
Speaker 1: Is it me?

1976
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:46,200
Speaker 3: Or is Rabel cleaning house a wee bit too much?

1977
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 6: Those are two very different things.

1978
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1979
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:51,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about the JSN thing already.

1980
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:54,959
Speaker 6: We talked a little bit about the uh.

1981
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 2: House.

1982
01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:58,719
Speaker 5: I talked a little bit with our guy Mike Grease

1983
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,320
Speaker 5: yesterday at BC at the Pro Day about this, and

1984
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 5: you know, just all of the kind of culture guys

1985
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 5: that have left, you know, the Garrett Bradberry's and you know,

1986
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:11,240
Speaker 5: he even mentioned that, you know, Jelani Tavai like them,

1987
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:13,519
Speaker 5: facetiming Jelani to Vai in the locker room when his

1988
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:17,439
Speaker 5: significant other was going through the tough time during the

1989
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:20,280
Speaker 5: season last year. And I thought, Mike, I hope he

1990
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:22,000
Speaker 5: doesn't mind me sharing. But I thought he brought up

1991
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:24,600
Speaker 5: a great point, which was that maybe Rabel feels like

1992
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 5: you can only create that atmosphere once and that each

1993
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 5: team kind of has its own DNA and its own thing,

1994
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 5: and like trying to recreate the quote unquote magic from

1995
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 5: last year is unrealistic.

1996
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 3: You wait to see what this team's like. Yeah, you

1997
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 3: go with that.

1998
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:43,520
Speaker 4: You know that the leadership emerges organically.

1999
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 1: And I would just say, you know, I was talking

2000
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:48,840
Speaker 1: about this with Mike yesterday. I think they signed they

2001
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 1: signed twelve guys that made the team in free agency

2002
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:55,720
Speaker 1: last year. Six of them are gone. I thought, on

2003
01:30:55,760 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 1: the surface, I really like that from a Patriots PERSPECTI

2004
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 1: because I think one of the reasons why building a

2005
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:08,840
Speaker 1: team don't get fixated on the semantics, but building a

2006
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:12,640
Speaker 1: team through free agency doesn't generally work. You get the

2007
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:14,800
Speaker 1: bump and then it doesn't last. And I think the

2008
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:18,960
Speaker 1: reason that that happens is you sign guys and generally

2009
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 1: the best you get out of a free agent is

2010
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:23,880
Speaker 1: right away. Yeah, and it only goes the other way

2011
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 1: because the guys are a little older and they're not

2012
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:28,200
Speaker 1: on the way up. Like there's not a lot of

2013
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 1: year six jumps, year seven jumps. So I kind of

2014
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:35,600
Speaker 1: like in theory that he's moving on from some of

2015
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:38,920
Speaker 1: these guys. Now, we'll see if it ends up working,

2016
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 1: because the emailers concerns are right, Like, you had some

2017
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 1: culture guys, and you know, maybe the guys that you're

2018
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:48,840
Speaker 1: replacing them with will be you know, Kevin Byert has

2019
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:51,720
Speaker 1: a reputation to being exactly that kind of guy. So

2020
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:55,880
Speaker 1: maybe you've lost nothing there, but maybe you have.

2021
01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:58,400
Speaker 4: You know, Bill Belichick looked at this kind of stuff.

2022
01:31:58,479 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 4: I'm just curious.

2023
01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:02,120
Speaker 1: I would say he won. Bill Belichick ran it back,

2024
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:05,200
Speaker 1: you mean twenty two, Like yes, like after that twenty

2025
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:07,600
Speaker 1: one free agent class, like all those guys, you know,

2026
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:09,400
Speaker 1: oh yeah, we're gonna We're gonna do it again.

2027
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:12,639
Speaker 4: And just in terms of like building leadership on a team,

2028
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:15,680
Speaker 4: you know, is it. Does he take strides to do it?

2029
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:17,160
Speaker 4: Did he go out and try to make sure you

2030
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:18,240
Speaker 4: had a veteran press?

2031
01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 2: Ye?

2032
01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:20,840
Speaker 1: You know, you remember when the big thing in the

2033
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:23,839
Speaker 1: draft was they draft every guy they drafted was a captain.

2034
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 1: I forget what yeah that was, but you know most

2035
01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:27,519
Speaker 1: of those guys are not in the league.

2036
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:28,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2037
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:33,160
Speaker 2: Self policing, locker room leadership, Yeah, absolutely.

2038
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 5: I just wonder, you know, it's just interesting to compare it,

2039
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 5: you know to like Jack Gibbons, Like that was a

2040
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:44,880
Speaker 5: guy that was such a rabel guy and was one

2041
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:47,960
Speaker 5: of his guys, and they just moved on.

2042
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:50,439
Speaker 6: You know, they could have easily resigned Jack Gibbons.

2043
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:53,160
Speaker 1: I mean they didn't even offer him a restricted free agent,

2044
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 1: like he even the like the writer first refusal level,

2045
01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 1: like the lowest level.

2046
01:32:58,280 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 5: And it's just interesting that that they kind of feel

2047
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 5: like we the magic of last year in terms of

2048
01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:05,959
Speaker 5: the camaraderie in the locker room.

2049
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:08,000
Speaker 6: Is that was last year and it's just.

2050
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 4: Not falling in love. I mean, I think we all

2051
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 4: agree that that Gibbons played pretty well, like filling in

2052
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 4: for Spolene down the stretch. I think he surprised me

2053
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:16,559
Speaker 4: a little bit with some of his I.

2054
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:20,240
Speaker 1: Thought in terms of like a backup linebacker who's really

2055
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:24,440
Speaker 1: a special teamer. I thought when he actually played linebacker,

2056
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 1: he played it at a pretty good level comparatively to

2057
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:29,599
Speaker 1: other guys that have been in that role when they've

2058
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 1: been forced into action, and you be like, oh, that guy,

2059
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:34,080
Speaker 1: he's a special team of for I didn't think that

2060
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 1: with Jack Gibbons. I thought he did pretty well. Now,

2061
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 1: maybe kJ Britt can be a similar kind of guy. Yeah,

2062
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:43,400
Speaker 1: he's a special teamer really, and when he plays, maybe

2063
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 1: he can give you the same level that Jack Gibbons can't.

2064
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:49,160
Speaker 4: It's a good sign that not enamored and falling in

2065
01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 4: love with certain guys. Yes, I like him, but is

2066
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 4: it good enough? Is this going to be good enough?

2067
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:56,840
Speaker 4: Do we need to get better? I also just find

2068
01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:59,000
Speaker 4: it interesting that, you know, of everything they've done on defense,

2069
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:00,559
Speaker 4: Jones is the only guy to get more than a

2070
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:03,360
Speaker 4: one year deal too, you know, so it just seems

2071
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:05,760
Speaker 4: like they're setting the table a little bit, maybe defensively

2072
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 4: to draft some guys, and you know, maybe that's part

2073
01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 4: of the equation, is trying to find some of these

2074
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 4: leadership guys that can be groomed for those.

2075
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:12,320
Speaker 6: Kind of rules.

2076
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:15,720
Speaker 5: I definitely feels like they're trying to open roles for

2077
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:18,920
Speaker 5: draft picks, so that when they draft an edge rusher,

2078
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:21,719
Speaker 5: they draft a linebacker, they draft the safety, they draft

2079
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 5: a tight end. That these guys have runway to actually

2080
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:28,040
Speaker 5: create roles and opportunities for themselves, whereas if you just

2081
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:30,559
Speaker 5: bring the whole, if you bring the band back together,

2082
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 5: now you're going on a roster that has fifty out

2083
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:37,280
Speaker 5: of fifty three spots basically filled out, and you're competing

2084
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:39,880
Speaker 5: for the scraps. Yeah, and you know, maybe some of

2085
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:42,160
Speaker 5: these moves have allowed to do that. I The only

2086
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:44,679
Speaker 5: spot that I really come back to with the culture

2087
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:48,200
Speaker 5: thing though, is Digs like I because I don't I

2088
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:51,960
Speaker 5: think Romeo Dobbs might replace his production on the field,

2089
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:55,519
Speaker 5: but that is a very different type of personality than

2090
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:59,760
Speaker 5: Stefan Diggs. And it's just the whole star power that

2091
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:04,160
Speaker 5: Digs and the whole bravado and the energy and setting

2092
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:07,519
Speaker 5: the bar you know at training camp and practice every

2093
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:11,600
Speaker 5: single day like that is that that only comes with

2094
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:15,839
Speaker 5: like that type of receiver, like that alpha Diva resbatas.

2095
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:17,760
Speaker 4: It stood out and forged to me even more of

2096
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:20,000
Speaker 4: this last episode of the speeches that he gave and

2097
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 4: just the intensity, the intensity in his eyes. He kind

2098
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:24,680
Speaker 4: of had a two in the flag football team a

2099
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 4: little bit. So I don't know what it means, but

2100
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:28,880
Speaker 4: I just I think he's a He's a big piece.

2101
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:30,720
Speaker 4: Not just on the field. I think everyone focused on

2102
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:33,479
Speaker 4: the field production, but you know that leadership in that

2103
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 4: in that locker room, especially in the myde receiver room.

2104
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:37,679
Speaker 1: It's gonna miss him, Josh and Ohio.

2105
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 2: There's been a lot of talk about Dobbs in the

2106
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:42,639
Speaker 2: digs role, but I wouldn't be so sure. What I'm

2107
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:46,040
Speaker 2: seeing is multiple guys with inside outside versatility with Booty

2108
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:49,920
Speaker 2: Dobbs and Williams. Is that an actual strategy team's use

2109
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:54,479
Speaker 2: or am I just tricking myself into believing being multiple

2110
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:55,800
Speaker 2: is an advantage out there?

2111
01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 5: Well, Diggs was a fifty to fifty inside outside guy too,

2112
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:01,879
Speaker 5: so it's not you know, he wasn't pigeonholed to play.

2113
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:03,720
Speaker 1: Like did you know that moved him to the slot.

2114
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:07,680
Speaker 5: You know, playing he played more slot than most, but

2115
01:36:08,479 --> 01:36:11,800
Speaker 5: it was the worst.

2116
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:13,559
Speaker 6: They moved him around too.

2117
01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:18,600
Speaker 5: I think that you know, balance within the room, Like

2118
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:20,920
Speaker 5: if we have five eligibles and all of them are

2119
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:23,120
Speaker 5: threats to catch the ball at any time, and all

2120
01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 5: of them can kind of make plays. And there's that

2121
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:29,240
Speaker 5: school of thought that that's a way to go to

2122
01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:32,400
Speaker 5: build a team versus being top heavy, more like to

2123
01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:36,800
Speaker 5: go back to Seattle like JSN was, Like what of

2124
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:41,200
Speaker 5: their passing offense was Jackson Smith and jigbut and everybody else? Like,

2125
01:36:41,240 --> 01:36:43,040
Speaker 5: there are different ways to do it, I suppose.

2126
01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:45,240
Speaker 4: Also, just to the emailer's point, I don't know how

2127
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:47,840
Speaker 4: much inside outside versutilia those other guys really have, Like

2128
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:50,960
Speaker 4: I mean Kyle Williams, I were still figuring him out. Well,

2129
01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 4: Booties mostly an outside guy.

2130
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:54,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't I don't know the more

2131
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:57,040
Speaker 1: you can do, right, But I would just argue too,

2132
01:36:57,160 --> 01:37:00,000
Speaker 1: like I think it's great if you have some versus

2133
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 1: to your game. So in other words, if maybe you

2134
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 1: have like let's just say Mac Collins was exclusively an

2135
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:10,599
Speaker 1: outside guy with his size. I know he's got versatility too,

2136
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:13,639
Speaker 1: but let's just say, Okay, so I really like Booty,

2137
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:16,080
Speaker 1: but Hollins is my outside guy. I wish I had

2138
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:18,320
Speaker 1: some place. Well, he can play inside too, so I

2139
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:20,680
Speaker 1: can use him, so the versatility to be able to

2140
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:22,360
Speaker 1: do both as good. But when you're actually on the

2141
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:24,759
Speaker 1: fields and you're playing, you're lined up in a spot.

2142
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:28,640
Speaker 1: So like your versatility isn't like confusing the defense in

2143
01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:32,920
Speaker 1: other words, like you're figuring out right, Like you're figuring

2144
01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 1: out as a defense, how I'm going to defend whatever

2145
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 1: they have. You know, like Evan said, like they have

2146
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:41,120
Speaker 1: five wide. Well I'm not just going to say, well,

2147
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:43,720
Speaker 1: this guy's only an outside guy so I can get

2148
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:46,000
Speaker 1: away with you know, wait a minute, he's in the slot. Now,

2149
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:48,320
Speaker 1: Like what do I do? Like, No, You're you're gonna

2150
01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:50,920
Speaker 1: cover him with one of your defensive backs, right. So

2151
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:52,840
Speaker 1: I don't think it's as much of an advantage to

2152
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:55,720
Speaker 1: have versatility while the play's going on. It is an

2153
01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 1: advantage like in training camp as you're trying to develop

2154
01:37:58,520 --> 01:37:59,280
Speaker 1: a roster.

2155
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:00,599
Speaker 6: I think there's matchup.

2156
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:04,000
Speaker 5: Matchups is the big thing with versatility is like, so

2157
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:05,719
Speaker 5: if you have a guy that can play a little

2158
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:08,280
Speaker 5: bit in the slot as like a bigger slot receiver, well,

2159
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:10,360
Speaker 5: now if you can get him matched up on sorry

2160
01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:11,560
Speaker 5: to pick on his Jones.

2161
01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:12,200
Speaker 6: Marcus Jones R.

2162
01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:15,479
Speaker 5: Like that that's a mismatch that the offense can create.

2163
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:18,679
Speaker 5: Where I guess is where some of the body types

2164
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:21,360
Speaker 5: and the mismatches come into play with versatility when you

2165
01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:23,240
Speaker 5: think of that sort of thing, or maybe you're a

2166
01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:26,760
Speaker 5: guy that wins inside with quickness or digs with craftiness

2167
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:29,280
Speaker 5: and headiness. Like there's different ways to do it, but

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Speaker 5: I think that that's ideally. Coordinators probably like that element

2169
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 5: of versatility of like, this guy's an outside guy, but

2170
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:40,040
Speaker 5: twenty percent of the time we're going to line up

2171
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:41,639
Speaker 5: in the slot because we're going to get a matchup

2172
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:44,160
Speaker 5: that we like this week, you know, against a particular

2173
01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:47,000
Speaker 5: defense where they don't have bigger corners that are playing inside.

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01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:52,040
Speaker 2: Good stuff. People emailing in about youth sports, Zach and Ohio,

2175
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 2: I think you guys are nailing it. The monetization of

2176
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:58,200
Speaker 2: youth sports has led to a lack of participation in burnout.

2177
01:38:58,280 --> 01:39:00,840
Speaker 2: I know the chase to the pros always been there,

2178
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:04,439
Speaker 2: but especially within NIL, seems that families are looking at

2179
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:07,920
Speaker 2: youth sports and their children as meal tickets. I do

2180
01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:10,200
Speaker 2: think there's a bit of truth to Fred's video game take,

2181
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 2: although I don't think it's laziness. Is it possible that

2182
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:15,559
Speaker 2: some kids just don't want to get inside of that

2183
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 2: rat race after seeing.

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01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:20,760
Speaker 1: What comes with it the burnout. We didn't mention, but

2185
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:22,840
Speaker 1: that's a good inclusion in that email. I think the

2186
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:25,320
Speaker 1: burnout is very real for a lot of yeah, a

2187
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:26,720
Speaker 1: lot oft of kids. That happened to me.

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01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 4: I mean, I got burned out in like I think

2189
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:30,679
Speaker 4: seventh grade and I was playing for the Worcester Crusaders.

2190
01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:33,440
Speaker 4: So we were driving forty minutes to Worcester to practice

2191
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:35,759
Speaker 4: and I just got sick of it and I pulled back.

2192
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:37,840
Speaker 4: And then I got to high school a year later

2193
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:40,080
Speaker 4: and I realized, no, I really do want this, and

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01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:42,559
Speaker 4: then I started going to camps and I reinvested in it.

2195
01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:44,599
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's I mean, and it's easy to see

2196
01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:46,720
Speaker 4: how it happens with the amount of practices and yeah,

2197
01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:49,760
Speaker 4: the schedules some of these families have during the weekends.

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01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:52,639
Speaker 5: And it's like teams, like my cousin was a gymnast

2199
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:56,879
Speaker 5: for a long time, six seven days a week. Yeah,

2200
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 5: they like year round and it just never stop.

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01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:02,879
Speaker 12: And by high school they yeah, must be really flexible,

2202
01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:12,320
Speaker 12: thought Scott, what is wrong with that gymnastics built Scott, Irvine, Kentucky.

2203
01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:16,639
Speaker 2: Uh, soccer doesn't stick like football and basketball because pro

2204
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:19,640
Speaker 2: exposure on TV isn't there to keep their interest, so

2205
01:40:19,720 --> 01:40:23,519
Speaker 2: better athletes gravitate to the US populist sports. In the

2206
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:26,280
Speaker 2: case of my kids, they were better at watching dandelions

2207
01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:28,800
Speaker 2: grow while on the field and left sports due to

2208
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:30,480
Speaker 2: a lack of interest in ability.

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01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:32,719
Speaker 6: But I think that's a chicken or the egg thing, right.

2210
01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:35,439
Speaker 1: Soccer used to be on TV. They just recently decided

2211
01:40:35,479 --> 01:40:38,160
Speaker 1: to do the apple thing. That's only like two years old, right,

2212
01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:40,559
Speaker 1: three years old? Well, yeah, apple thing. But they used

2213
01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:43,160
Speaker 1: to have like national games on all the time. But

2214
01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:45,599
Speaker 1: I think no one cares. That's why they got zero

2215
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:46,559
Speaker 1: point two ratings.

2216
01:40:46,640 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 5: It's a chicken or the egg thing though, right, Like

2217
01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 5: if if we were better at soccer and the domestic

2218
01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:53,519
Speaker 5: league was better, then more people would watch it. But

2219
01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:55,760
Speaker 5: because we're not better at soccer and the domestic league

2220
01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:57,040
Speaker 5: isn't better, we don't watch it.

2221
01:40:57,080 --> 01:40:58,160
Speaker 6: So like I and the.

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01:40:58,479 --> 01:41:02,680
Speaker 2: People who really are the soccer fans, they know what

2223
01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:05,719
Speaker 2: good soccer is, you know, Like that's why the Premier

2224
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:09,719
Speaker 2: League is on NBC Peacock on Saturday mornings in season,

2225
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:10,200
Speaker 2: but no.

2226
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:14,160
Speaker 1: One, no one in America knows. Those are hardcore soccer

2227
01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:16,240
Speaker 1: people and they're generally Europeans.

2228
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 3: Well, I know what good soccer is.

2229
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:21,439
Speaker 1: Well, you are, in all seriousness, you are a rarity.

2230
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:24,160
Speaker 1: I'm not not, But in terms of soccer, do you

2231
01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:25,080
Speaker 1: think most people?

2232
01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:27,519
Speaker 4: No, I couldn't watch an MLS game and then be like, oh,

2233
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:29,320
Speaker 4: this is nothing compared to what I see. I could.

2234
01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:29,760
Speaker 4: I can't.

2235
01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:32,160
Speaker 5: Oh no, yes you could really if you if you

2236
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:34,479
Speaker 5: watch it, If you watch an MLS game, then you

2237
01:41:34,479 --> 01:41:35,960
Speaker 5: watch like a Champions.

2238
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:39,800
Speaker 1: League game of triangles, and given goes to tell it's

2239
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:42,960
Speaker 1: a beautiful game. It's so complicated. You'd understand it if you,

2240
01:41:43,080 --> 01:41:44,599
Speaker 1: if you, if you actually lived.

2241
01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:45,920
Speaker 6: You would totally get it.

2242
01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:47,880
Speaker 4: I just you don't think there's any answer. I mean,

2243
01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:49,479
Speaker 4: I feel like we've been asking this thing for like

2244
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 4: twenty years.

2245
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 3: There's a reason.

2246
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:55,320
Speaker 2: Why these guys make You know, you think that the

2247
01:41:55,439 --> 01:41:57,000
Speaker 2: NFL players make a lot of money.

2248
01:41:57,280 --> 01:41:59,240
Speaker 3: Some of these soccer players in Europe.

2249
01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:01,840
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, that's how they always die. I am not

2250
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 1: scoffing worldwide the popularity of soccer.

2251
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:07,439
Speaker 4: But it's not like there's going to be no other

2252
01:42:07,479 --> 01:42:10,360
Speaker 4: sports American soccer player is going to come and all

2253
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:13,000
Speaker 4: of a sudden change this whole dynamic just because one

2254
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:13,960
Speaker 4: person was so good.

2255
01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:16,360
Speaker 6: I mean, no, it wouldn't need to be more than

2256
01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:16,880
Speaker 6: one person.

2257
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:20,320
Speaker 2: Like you know, it's Mary Wrights in attendance sores for

2258
01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:23,759
Speaker 2: Rhode Island FC at Patucket Stadium in twenty twenty five.

2259
01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:26,800
Speaker 6: I did hear about that they're pretty popular there, but

2260
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:27,280
Speaker 6: they don't have it.

2261
01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:28,800
Speaker 1: What exactly does that entail?

2262
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:30,559
Speaker 3: I don't know, full stadium.

2263
01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:31,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, like what is that?

2264
01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 3: I want.

2265
01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:34,360
Speaker 1: Skyrocket?

2266
01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:37,439
Speaker 2: But but like to that battle is huge, the Sounders

2267
01:42:37,479 --> 01:42:39,639
Speaker 2: are huge. I mean there's a lot of places outside

2268
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:42,240
Speaker 2: of New England in MLS that they bang it out.

2269
01:42:42,479 --> 01:42:43,240
Speaker 3: They bang it out.

2270
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:45,360
Speaker 4: I mean I would just say to that point, is

2271
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:48,160
Speaker 4: it family friendly? Is it affordable? Because that's like you're

2272
01:42:48,160 --> 01:42:50,559
Speaker 4: talking about all professional sports. Now nobody's going you know,

2273
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:52,719
Speaker 4: like it's not Red Sox.

2274
01:42:52,520 --> 01:42:55,600
Speaker 6: Game one other major sports teams to be globbing on.

2275
01:42:56,080 --> 01:42:59,160
Speaker 6: Making my argument that one that one I agree with you.

2276
01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:01,360
Speaker 1: They used to bang out the Protucket Red Sox too,

2277
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:04,440
Speaker 1: something I wouldn't wait twenty study.

2278
01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:06,599
Speaker 2: You think of this theory, Rick and Riverside, Rhode Island.

2279
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:09,320
Speaker 2: If soccer was invented in the US, it would be

2280
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:10,120
Speaker 2: more popular.

2281
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:12,920
Speaker 4: I don't think soccer would have been Hockey is invented

2282
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:13,360
Speaker 4: in Canada.

2283
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:14,120
Speaker 1: We know better.

2284
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:19,200
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, hockey was in Canada, right, hockey?

2285
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:24,400
Speaker 2: So like, yeah, but hockey isn't the most populous sport.

2286
01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:25,880
Speaker 1: No, but United.

2287
01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:31,599
Speaker 5: States, No, but we it's very weird, very but Americans

2288
01:43:31,600 --> 01:43:34,200
Speaker 5: are still very good at it. Like, yeah, clearly we

2289
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:36,840
Speaker 5: have three hundred and fifty million people. It's violent, yeah,

2290
01:43:36,840 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 5: but I'm just saying it had the same dedication to

2291
01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:42,280
Speaker 5: soccer that we had to hockey, we would also be

2292
01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:43,120
Speaker 5: very good at soccer.

2293
01:43:43,240 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 1: Right, we just don't.

2294
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:47,280
Speaker 4: Checking and like maybe five or six goals scored per game,

2295
01:43:47,320 --> 01:43:48,880
Speaker 4: I think you know we're then we're on the right path.

2296
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:51,719
Speaker 1: But but again, to me, it's not even about the scoring.

2297
01:43:51,800 --> 01:43:55,080
Speaker 1: It's about the chance to score. Like I've seen many

2298
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:57,760
Speaker 1: hockey games that are two to one, that you know,

2299
01:43:57,800 --> 01:43:59,160
Speaker 1: but the shots on goal at the end of the

2300
01:43:59,200 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 1: game are thirty five, thirty three, not one to nothing.

2301
01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:07,960
Speaker 4: Guy uh in La check out the Friendly Master tomorrow

2302
01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:10,360
Speaker 4: or Louisiana.

2303
01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:13,599
Speaker 2: Agree a lot with the comments on youth sports burnout,

2304
01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:15,880
Speaker 2: et cetera. But I also think a big part is

2305
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:18,680
Speaker 2: the time commitment for parents. A lot of parents are

2306
01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:21,719
Speaker 2: working longer hours, and more often than not, both parents

2307
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:25,000
Speaker 2: work now too growing up, both my parents got off

2308
01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:27,320
Speaker 2: work at five so they could be fully engaged with

2309
01:44:27,360 --> 01:44:29,960
Speaker 2: my sports growing up. Now my wife and I get

2310
01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:33,320
Speaker 2: off work around seven. But if the kids practice start

2311
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:36,280
Speaker 2: at five three days a week, makes it really difficult

2312
01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:38,920
Speaker 2: to engage at the level my parents did for me.

2313
01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:40,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hear that too.

2314
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:43,639
Speaker 1: I hear that too, So I do agree. I don't

2315
01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:47,160
Speaker 1: think the two parent working thing is anything new, so

2316
01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:50,160
Speaker 1: I think that's less of a thing. But the time commitment,

2317
01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:53,080
Speaker 1: and I do I see this a lot. You know.

2318
01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:56,240
Speaker 1: My brother and I were crazy and our kids played

2319
01:44:56,280 --> 01:44:58,639
Speaker 1: everything and we loved it. We were all over the place.

2320
01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:01,400
Speaker 1: My sister, who is into sports, she's not, like, not

2321
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:05,800
Speaker 1: into sports at all her kids. You know, they liked it,

2322
01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:09,599
Speaker 1: and they weren't always as encouraged to do it because

2323
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:11,559
Speaker 1: it was a little bit more of a hassle and

2324
01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:14,479
Speaker 1: they didn't do as much. You know. My my nephew

2325
01:45:14,479 --> 01:45:17,080
Speaker 1: in particular, was a pretty good baseball player, and we

2326
01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:18,880
Speaker 1: were like, you know, you you gotta have them playing

2327
01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:21,559
Speaker 1: in the summer, kind of like they really weren't interested

2328
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:21,840
Speaker 1: in that.

2329
01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:24,880
Speaker 2: You know, when I kids growing up, I pretended hockey

2330
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:27,560
Speaker 2: didn't exist because I didn't want them playing.

2331
01:45:27,280 --> 01:45:28,200
Speaker 3: At five in the morning.

2332
01:45:28,360 --> 01:45:29,360
Speaker 6: My parents did the same thing.

2333
01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:31,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think part of mine. When I

2334
01:45:31,880 --> 01:45:33,519
Speaker 4: was living in California my kids were young, it was

2335
01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 4: really hard to manage hockey because there are only so

2336
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:38,720
Speaker 4: many rings and the worst schedule there was like till

2337
01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:41,439
Speaker 4: seven o'clock. But now when I go out with my

2338
01:45:41,479 --> 01:45:43,880
Speaker 4: buddies who all had their kids in hockey forever, I'm

2339
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:46,559
Speaker 4: like so glad like and I still like I'm involved

2340
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:49,120
Speaker 4: a little bit enough. But it's I mean, everything we've

2341
01:45:49,160 --> 01:45:52,840
Speaker 4: been talking about. It's expensive, it's time consuming, and you

2342
01:45:52,920 --> 01:45:54,400
Speaker 4: want to be in it for the right reasons, like

2343
01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:54,960
Speaker 4: I play.

2344
01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:56,880
Speaker 1: Those pets stink now they do, they do.

2345
01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:59,280
Speaker 4: But I mean I I got a great sports I

2346
01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:01,240
Speaker 4: didn't like. I just one of my kids to play sports,

2347
01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:03,120
Speaker 4: to learn how to be on a team and learn

2348
01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:05,200
Speaker 4: how to lose, Like those to me were the biggest priorities.

2349
01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:07,160
Speaker 4: I don't really care if they play sports at a

2350
01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:08,960
Speaker 4: high level, but those two things I think are what

2351
01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:09,880
Speaker 4: sports treats you the most.

2352
01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:13,080
Speaker 1: Team I like the I can see.

2353
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:16,559
Speaker 2: The book Preparing to Lose by Mike so well, it's

2354
01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:17,759
Speaker 2: not one of like the life lessons.

2355
01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:19,639
Speaker 4: I mean, look, everybody can win a game and feel great,

2356
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:22,200
Speaker 4: but you need to understand that, like you can work

2357
01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:25,080
Speaker 4: your ass off and still lose, like and that's like

2358
01:46:25,360 --> 01:46:27,519
Speaker 4: a tough lesson in life that everybody needs to lose.

2359
01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:30,120
Speaker 4: And I think sports delivers that message better than a

2360
01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:30,679
Speaker 4: lot of things.

2361
01:46:32,040 --> 01:46:34,960
Speaker 1: You didn't lose, you just didn't win, right.

2362
01:46:36,720 --> 01:46:38,280
Speaker 3: Justin writes in and real winners.

2363
01:46:38,479 --> 01:46:41,000
Speaker 2: In recent years, polls are finding more and more kids

2364
01:46:41,040 --> 01:46:43,960
Speaker 2: want to grow up to be YouTubers or influencers for

2365
01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:47,280
Speaker 2: a career instead of doctors, lawyers or pro athletes. That

2366
01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:49,559
Speaker 2: could very well be playing a big factor in the

2367
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:52,519
Speaker 2: drop off with participation. A lot of these kids would

2368
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:55,240
Speaker 2: rather try to make a big sitting in the comfort

2369
01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:57,799
Speaker 2: of their room rather than making the physical and mental

2370
01:46:57,880 --> 01:46:59,320
Speaker 2: push into sports.

2371
01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:02,320
Speaker 1: I hear that. I just I don't know that this

2372
01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:03,439
Speaker 1: generation is I.

2373
01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:04,160
Speaker 3: Look at it other way.

2374
01:47:04,240 --> 01:47:07,519
Speaker 2: I think the YouTubers, it's it's a real thing. But

2375
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:11,320
Speaker 2: I think it's given something kids who can't play sports

2376
01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:12,879
Speaker 2: something to do.

2377
01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:15,559
Speaker 4: Creative out, creative out the money in nil it's not

2378
01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:17,760
Speaker 4: about being a professional athlete anymore. Now you can get

2379
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:19,360
Speaker 4: paid to be a college athlete, you know.

2380
01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:23,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

2381
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:26,320
Speaker 6: I think it's easy, always easy to say, oh, it's

2382
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:28,040
Speaker 6: this generation is just lazy.

2383
01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:31,479
Speaker 1: You know, well I was Fred, that wasn't. I'm not.

2384
01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:35,160
Speaker 5: It's just like ever your generation does that, right, even

2385
01:47:35,400 --> 01:47:38,839
Speaker 5: I'm starting to do it now as well as I age.

2386
01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:43,080
Speaker 2: And I also you know, I I understand the demands

2387
01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:46,640
Speaker 2: on parents too, but you got to take part in

2388
01:47:46,680 --> 01:47:49,120
Speaker 2: your kids life and you got to tell them get outside,

2389
01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:49,559
Speaker 2: go play.

2390
01:47:49,680 --> 01:47:52,160
Speaker 1: But you can also go so a lot of this too,

2391
01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:54,840
Speaker 1: you know. As much as I criticize and joke around

2392
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:58,400
Speaker 1: like Fred, well this generation blah blah blah when we

2393
01:47:58,400 --> 01:48:00,240
Speaker 1: were growing up, When Fred and I were growing up, Mike,

2394
01:48:00,320 --> 01:48:02,360
Speaker 1: you too, like there's nothing else to do. We just

2395
01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:05,840
Speaker 1: but it was like nine o'clock in the morning on

2396
01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:09,920
Speaker 1: a Saturday. You know, Mom, I'm going out. I'll see

2397
01:48:09,920 --> 01:48:12,080
Speaker 1: you at five, I'll see you at six. And no

2398
01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:13,720
Speaker 1: one thought a thing of it. You just went out

2399
01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:15,840
Speaker 1: and played. And how many times have you heard someone say, oh,

2400
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:17,679
Speaker 1: I drove by the park today, there wasn't a single

2401
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:23,880
Speaker 1: kid in it. Because nowadays you're really like taking a

2402
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:26,120
Speaker 1: risk just letting your kids go out and do anything

2403
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:28,360
Speaker 1: that they want at a certain age. Now, do I

2404
01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:30,639
Speaker 1: think that there's a little bit too much coddling. Yes,

2405
01:48:30,680 --> 01:48:33,639
Speaker 1: I do, but for good reason. There are all kinds

2406
01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:36,160
Speaker 1: of concerns that we never had to worry about. Mike,

2407
01:48:36,200 --> 01:48:36,680
Speaker 1: You and I.

2408
01:48:37,400 --> 01:48:41,280
Speaker 5: Even like trick or treating, like let kids go anymore,

2409
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:42,880
Speaker 5: like you have to like they do it like on

2410
01:48:43,000 --> 01:48:45,760
Speaker 5: a trunks and stuff with like only people that you know, so.

2411
01:48:46,240 --> 01:48:49,800
Speaker 1: But whatever, whatever they don't want. Whatever the season was,

2412
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:52,600
Speaker 1: we were playing pick up whatever that's whatever it was.

2413
01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:58,360
Speaker 1: So we'd be down i ever Stadium street Hotey, we

2414
01:48:58,360 --> 01:49:01,519
Speaker 1: would create can we would even free he's the Everett Stadium.

2415
01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:03,680
Speaker 1: We had one of our friends. His father was like

2416
01:49:03,720 --> 01:49:05,280
Speaker 1: the head of the stadium commission. You come up with

2417
01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:07,960
Speaker 1: a fire hose and free. So we would actually play

2418
01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:11,280
Speaker 1: ice hockey at Everittt Stadium. We'd play baseball and football,

2419
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:12,559
Speaker 1: basketball like whatever.

2420
01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:14,799
Speaker 3: He did the Winter Classic before the Winter Class.

2421
01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:19,719
Speaker 1: It was. It was same ice but instead of playing

2422
01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:23,880
Speaker 1: for like the Aztec soccer program. You know, like you're

2423
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:28,320
Speaker 1: playing every single day. You can't help but get get better.

2424
01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:30,760
Speaker 1: And then in my neighborhood, I was one of the

2425
01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:33,040
Speaker 1: younger guys, so that helped me a lot because I

2426
01:49:33,080 --> 01:49:35,840
Speaker 1: was playing against my brother and his friends and he said,

2427
01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:37,320
Speaker 1: you can play in any game that we have a

2428
01:49:37,400 --> 01:49:40,519
Speaker 1: play in. Yep, but you got to keep up. Like

2429
01:49:40,600 --> 01:49:43,280
Speaker 1: if you can't make a play, then you can't play.

2430
01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:46,120
Speaker 1: So how can you not get better?

2431
01:49:46,439 --> 01:49:48,960
Speaker 4: I have such same memories of the older kids bringing

2432
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:50,760
Speaker 4: me can't do that now. I couldn't believe it when

2433
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:52,559
Speaker 4: my son was playing baseball for a couple of years

2434
01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:53,960
Speaker 4: and it's like, do you guys don't know how to

2435
01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:56,000
Speaker 4: catch a fly ball? Like does no one know the rules?

2436
01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:58,599
Speaker 4: Like nope, we all learned it in the backyard like lily,

2437
01:49:58,600 --> 01:50:00,320
Speaker 4: you know. But it wasn't just sports too. Was gonna

2438
01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:02,400
Speaker 4: say like it was flashlight tag at night. It was

2439
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:04,519
Speaker 4: kicked the can you know we used to wo man Hunt.

2440
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:06,640
Speaker 4: We had all these games that we would play the neighborhood.

2441
01:50:07,960 --> 01:50:10,400
Speaker 1: Did you just stand like what's up in the back

2442
01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:12,879
Speaker 1: of a building and just tennis ball into.

2443
01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:15,679
Speaker 3: The whatever you're always doing the last time.

2444
01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:16,439
Speaker 1: You start a kid do that?

2445
01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:16,800
Speaker 3: You know?

2446
01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:22,080
Speaker 1: Actually, SyES tennis, so I bet she's good.

2447
01:50:22,479 --> 01:50:23,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2448
01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:25,880
Speaker 5: But now like they're all these like they're all the

2449
01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:28,880
Speaker 5: whatever sport they specialized in. They're just like robots at

2450
01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:31,920
Speaker 5: that particular sport. And like I feel like that that

2451
01:50:32,120 --> 01:50:32,760
Speaker 5: SAPs a lot.

2452
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:38,080
Speaker 3: I had to be dragged in the house, dragged.

2453
01:50:37,640 --> 01:50:40,120
Speaker 1: In the house, legendary beat.

2454
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:43,360
Speaker 2: My mother got this bell that she would I was

2455
01:50:43,400 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 2: ready to get in, Like it was embarrassing.

2456
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:51,200
Speaker 3: You couldn't keep me from playing all day long.

2457
01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:53,559
Speaker 4: This is a different day every out the woods too,

2458
01:50:53,680 --> 01:50:56,639
Speaker 4: Like I love the woods, Like yeah, ticks or any

2459
01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:58,000
Speaker 4: that's like like ticks.

2460
01:50:59,280 --> 01:51:01,360
Speaker 1: I was in the wood all the time, never.

2461
01:51:01,240 --> 01:51:03,200
Speaker 4: Saw a tick. Now it's like you walk through your backyard,

2462
01:51:03,240 --> 01:51:04,720
Speaker 4: you brush a leaf, and you're like, I got a tick.

2463
01:51:04,840 --> 01:51:06,519
Speaker 1: When I grew up, we ate the ticks.

2464
01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:09,400
Speaker 3: I just don't think we checked for him.

2465
01:51:09,479 --> 01:51:12,439
Speaker 1: I probably had, I know, I know, I think it's

2466
01:51:12,439 --> 01:51:14,800
Speaker 1: a spider. It it's really hard. The hell is that

2467
01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:17,479
Speaker 1: it's just a I didn't spend a lot of time

2468
01:51:17,479 --> 01:51:17,880
Speaker 1: in the woods.

2469
01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:18,360
Speaker 3: I grew up in.

2470
01:51:20,240 --> 01:51:24,040
Speaker 5: My dad like installed like a light on our driveway

2471
01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:25,920
Speaker 5: because I used to won't want to play basketball, Like

2472
01:51:26,200 --> 01:51:29,439
Speaker 5: when twenty four to seven and hestalled like a light

2473
01:51:29,479 --> 01:51:31,160
Speaker 5: and we would used to play basketball till like eight

2474
01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:33,599
Speaker 5: nine o'clock at night, And like I just don't even

2475
01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:36,720
Speaker 5: does that register, Like would you ever? Like he like

2476
01:51:36,840 --> 01:51:38,960
Speaker 5: lit up the whole driveway for us, so we could

2477
01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:41,000
Speaker 5: stay out, you know, in the summertime and stuff, and

2478
01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:43,400
Speaker 5: literally like it would be like eight o'clock at night

2479
01:51:43,479 --> 01:51:44,599
Speaker 5: and we would still be out there.

2480
01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:47,200
Speaker 1: But like you know, there's a million houses now, they'll

2481
01:51:47,240 --> 01:51:49,559
Speaker 1: have the basketball hoop in front of the house on

2482
01:51:49,600 --> 01:51:53,639
Speaker 1: the street and you might see the kid shooting by himself.

2483
01:51:53,720 --> 01:51:55,840
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, my next to a neighbor who's a

2484
01:51:55,920 --> 01:51:58,679
Speaker 1: senior in high school. Now she's out there still shooting

2485
01:51:58,680 --> 01:52:01,439
Speaker 1: all the time. But you never see like six kids

2486
01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:05,400
Speaker 1: playing three on three. Yeah ever never. You know, I

2487
01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:08,320
Speaker 1: had a basketball hoop in front of my house the

2488
01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:10,320
Speaker 1: whole time my kids were growing up. I had when

2489
01:52:10,320 --> 01:52:12,000
Speaker 1: they were out there all the time, but they never

2490
01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:13,519
Speaker 1: played three on three together.

2491
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:19,599
Speaker 2: I owe my beating in all sports sports to having

2492
01:52:19,640 --> 01:52:22,760
Speaker 2: a hoop in my backyard that I shot at constantly.

2493
01:52:23,280 --> 01:52:25,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you also played bullyball, which was great to

2494
01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:27,799
Speaker 1: watch constant.

2495
01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:30,959
Speaker 3: You know. So like we were always doing something and that's.

2496
01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:34,200
Speaker 2: And we we would want nothing else. Yeah, Like I

2497
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:36,280
Speaker 2: don't know, well it's like that we don't have I

2498
01:52:36,280 --> 01:52:38,920
Speaker 2: guess we didn't have video games. Pong was invented when

2499
01:52:38,920 --> 01:52:40,960
Speaker 2: I was probably in eighth grade.

2500
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:43,479
Speaker 4: I don't it just seems such such an intense divide

2501
01:52:43,520 --> 01:52:46,720
Speaker 4: because we had like I had casual cyo basketball, I

2502
01:52:46,720 --> 01:52:49,559
Speaker 4: had casual youth hockey. Then I had neighborhood sports or

2503
01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:51,960
Speaker 4: you know, I pick up pond hockey, and now it

2504
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:53,680
Speaker 4: seems like you don't really have that anymore. And it's

2505
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:55,600
Speaker 4: always kind of like a job and you're playing on

2506
01:52:55,640 --> 01:52:57,320
Speaker 4: a team that you need to be at and you

2507
01:52:57,400 --> 01:52:59,880
Speaker 4: have to be there, and you know, there's practice.

2508
01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:00,760
Speaker 3: So many takes the joy.

2509
01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:03,960
Speaker 4: It's not just this like loose bunch of sports that

2510
01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:06,799
Speaker 4: you're playing that all have generally the same level intensity,

2511
01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:08,400
Speaker 4: but you're just having fun the whole time. I never

2512
01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:11,720
Speaker 4: thought about cyo basketball that way. You know, it was just, hey,

2513
01:53:11,720 --> 01:53:13,920
Speaker 4: another chance to be my friends and play some sports.

2514
01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:16,160
Speaker 5: I know, but like playing video games even like because

2515
01:53:16,160 --> 01:53:18,640
Speaker 5: we obviously played video games all the time, but like

2516
01:53:18,680 --> 01:53:21,160
Speaker 5: we played them together, you know, like we would be

2517
01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:22,240
Speaker 5: at somebody's house.

2518
01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:25,680
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's anti social, but it can be.

2519
01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:28,599
Speaker 1: But there is a difference. I think it makes much distinction.

2520
01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:30,760
Speaker 5: You know, like we would play like like we'd have

2521
01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:34,160
Speaker 5: like tournaments at somebody's house, where like we would just

2522
01:53:34,200 --> 01:53:37,439
Speaker 5: play like whether FIFA, NHL or whatever, and like you know,

2523
01:53:37,479 --> 01:53:40,280
Speaker 5: you would you play around Robin or something, and like

2524
01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:43,719
Speaker 5: everybody would play and like you just but you played

2525
01:53:43,760 --> 01:53:46,240
Speaker 5: as a group to get in one person's house, not

2526
01:53:46,360 --> 01:53:49,959
Speaker 5: with the headset on, like into a camera that you're streaming,

2527
01:53:50,120 --> 01:53:51,760
Speaker 5: and like that's like, ant.

2528
01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:53,840
Speaker 4: Did that COVID year? Did that have any impact on

2529
01:53:53,880 --> 01:53:54,320
Speaker 4: this at all?

2530
01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:54,519
Speaker 5: Too?

2531
01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:56,719
Speaker 4: I mean it seems like it's certainly set some kids

2532
01:53:56,720 --> 01:53:57,400
Speaker 4: back a little bit.

2533
01:53:57,439 --> 01:54:00,280
Speaker 1: But you know, but that whole thing that's worked, Mike.

2534
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:01,920
Speaker 2: You know, my kid used to be downstairs and you have

2535
01:54:01,960 --> 01:54:04,360
Speaker 2: the headset on it. You know, he'd be talking to

2536
01:54:04,400 --> 01:54:06,559
Speaker 2: his friends, you know, but my wife be like, what's

2537
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:07,360
Speaker 2: what's kind of doing it?

2538
01:54:07,640 --> 01:54:09,559
Speaker 3: He's on he's talking to some guy in a white

2539
01:54:09,640 --> 01:54:12,320
Speaker 3: van who set up later or something like that.

2540
01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:16,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, all right, I gotta go. I got a meeting.

2541
01:54:16,840 --> 01:54:19,760
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to wrap it up. But quickly he's

2542
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:22,519
Speaker 2: been holding on forever. Patty from Agawam, What do you got?

2543
01:54:24,360 --> 01:54:24,760
Speaker 3: What's up?

2544
01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:25,040
Speaker 13: Guys?

2545
01:54:25,080 --> 01:54:25,320
Speaker 8: Fred?

2546
01:54:25,560 --> 01:54:27,959
Speaker 13: I like your idea of a resurgence and youth football,

2547
01:54:28,160 --> 01:54:31,439
Speaker 13: tackle football, real football. And this might be a better

2548
01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:34,120
Speaker 13: question for another day because he'd run in out of time,

2549
01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:36,040
Speaker 13: But I think there needs to be a resurgence and

2550
01:54:36,160 --> 01:54:38,600
Speaker 13: offensive line play and technique and how it's taught at

2551
01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:40,760
Speaker 13: the high school and college level to get these guys

2552
01:54:40,800 --> 01:54:44,320
Speaker 13: ready to play in the pros, and more specifically at

2553
01:54:44,320 --> 01:54:48,200
Speaker 13: the tackle position, because it seems like there's just you know,

2554
01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:53,280
Speaker 13: there's more an abundance at the inside offensive line positions.

2555
01:54:53,280 --> 01:54:55,120
Speaker 13: And what do they do?

2556
01:54:55,280 --> 01:54:57,240
Speaker 3: Like, Yeah, it's hard because size.

2557
01:54:57,280 --> 01:55:00,480
Speaker 2: You can't teach size, and a lot of these guys

2558
01:55:00,680 --> 01:55:02,600
Speaker 2: you know, don't put on the weight and they go

2559
01:55:02,680 --> 01:55:03,480
Speaker 2: play basketball.

2560
01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:07,120
Speaker 5: I mean, how many six, six, three and twenty five

2561
01:55:07,160 --> 01:55:09,280
Speaker 5: pound dudes with thirty four inch arms are there on

2562
01:55:09,280 --> 01:55:09,839
Speaker 5: this planet?

2563
01:55:09,960 --> 01:55:10,160
Speaker 3: Right?

2564
01:55:10,240 --> 01:55:12,680
Speaker 5: And so then that that already went like this, then

2565
01:55:12,680 --> 01:55:16,040
Speaker 5: how many people can actually coach it and teach the technique?

2566
01:55:16,040 --> 01:55:18,600
Speaker 5: Property Now we just went like that. So like now

2567
01:55:18,640 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 5: we're trying to really and and.

2568
01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:24,839
Speaker 2: You know, we say, well, tackle has the the playing

2569
01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:25,920
Speaker 2: tackle has gone down?

2570
01:55:26,040 --> 01:55:29,560
Speaker 3: It really hasn't. It's just that the elevation of the offense.

2571
01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:31,760
Speaker 3: It's harder to be a tackle.

2572
01:55:31,440 --> 01:55:34,680
Speaker 2: Now because you've got these athletes coming off the edge

2573
01:55:34,720 --> 01:55:37,560
Speaker 2: and you know, you're throwing the ball so much more

2574
01:55:37,600 --> 01:55:39,600
Speaker 2: than when I was watching football and as.

2575
01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:41,320
Speaker 3: A kid didn't throw the ball as much.

2576
01:55:41,360 --> 01:55:46,200
Speaker 1: So I do think tackle wasn't the blocking our significantly

2577
01:55:46,280 --> 01:55:47,280
Speaker 1: better than they.

2578
01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:50,760
Speaker 6: All over the defensive front, inside and outside.

2579
01:55:50,800 --> 01:55:54,360
Speaker 2: But tackle is more It's never been more important than

2580
01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:57,040
Speaker 2: it is now. It wasn't important thirty years ago.

2581
01:55:57,360 --> 01:55:59,120
Speaker 4: I think with Will Campbell last year that somehow my

2582
01:55:59,160 --> 01:56:02,360
Speaker 4: algorithm hasn't of like youth offensive line instruction.

2583
01:56:02,440 --> 01:56:03,680
Speaker 1: So I get a lot of that in my feed.

2584
01:56:03,760 --> 01:56:06,600
Speaker 4: Sometimes you're just you know, teaching kids offensive line plants.

2585
01:56:06,800 --> 01:56:10,400
Speaker 6: You have a forty five or vertical cetter with that.

2586
01:56:11,320 --> 01:56:13,640
Speaker 2: We'll remind you that Catch twenty two is going to

2587
01:56:13,680 --> 01:56:16,360
Speaker 2: be on tomorrow at noon.

2588
01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:18,360
Speaker 5: I think we're going to talk a lot about youth

2589
01:56:18,360 --> 01:56:19,720
Speaker 5: sports and videas.

2590
01:56:20,160 --> 01:56:22,160
Speaker 3: Listen, listen, it's off season.

2591
01:56:22,360 --> 01:56:25,040
Speaker 2: We're in between the draft and free agency right now,

2592
01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:27,240
Speaker 2: so we talk about whatever the hell we want to

2593
01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:31,160
Speaker 2: talk about. All right, We'll be back Thursday, Catch twenty

2594
01:56:31,160 --> 01:56:32,280
Speaker 2: two tomorrow at noon.

2595
01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:36,520
Speaker 3: Talk to you then, Hey, this is Matis.

2596
01:56:36,640 --> 01:56:37,800
Speaker 4: Thanks for tuning into the show.

2597
01:56:37,920 --> 01:56:39,480
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2598
01:56:39,560 --> 01:56:42,000
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Speaker 9: or Spotify.

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Speaker 1: Also make sure to follow.

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Speaker 4: Us on the New England Patriots YouTube channel.

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Speaker 9: To see the show and everything else here that we

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Speaker 9: do at the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Thanks a lot,