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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha.

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Speaker 2: I'm welcome to Stefan never told you a prediction of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And today as this comes out, it is the day

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Speaker 2: after daylight savings. Oh, I just learned it's daylight saving time.

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Speaker 2: It's not savings time. You do not put the S on.

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Speaker 3: There was one of those things that everybody does on

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Speaker 3: an item, so like, it's not that it's Kroger not Kroger's.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I've been doing it my whole life.

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Speaker 1: But what's coming how I said the internets, and I'm

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Speaker 1: about it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that is like we make that joke a

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Speaker 2: lot about my mom, so I wonder if I'm slowly

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Speaker 2: becoming more like my mom. Yes we are, Yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: I so originally, as you heard me talk about in

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Speaker 2: our last Happy Hour where I was an anxious mess,

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Speaker 2: this was going to be a different episode this Monday, Mini,

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Speaker 2: and it's about self disclosure. But that's big enough to

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Speaker 2: be a full episode. So that's going to be coming

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Speaker 2: out later this week. And I just got this idea

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Speaker 2: of ours, like it's daylight saving I want to look

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Speaker 2: up women in daylight saving time, and it turns out

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Speaker 2: there is some research about it, so we're going to

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Speaker 2: talk about it. It also cracked me up because okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: first a content warning. We are going to be talking

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Speaker 2: about sexual assault and harassment. Yep, but nothing in depth.

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Speaker 2: Nothing in depth. But one of the arguments against it

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Speaker 2: is when it is darker earlier than for a lot

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Speaker 2: the dark, it's like curfew. But that made me think

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Speaker 2: jokingly much less seriously about hocus Pocus, because there's that

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Speaker 2: scene at the end where Max is like daylight saving

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Speaker 2: time and they fake the sunrise and.

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Speaker 4: The wishes are like, ah.

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Speaker 2: Dying but not really, and I was like, if that

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Speaker 2: was true, those witches would have been in trouble. It

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Speaker 2: would have really gotten them. So it's messing up for

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Speaker 2: I know we've talked about this. What are your thoughts

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Speaker 2: on daylight saving Time?

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Speaker 1: I hate it, point blake, point blank. I hate it.

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Speaker 3: I think the one reprieve is like having the sunback,

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Speaker 3: but trying to adjust. I am not good about time adjustments,

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Speaker 3: whether it's traveling or anything like. It knocks me out.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why. I am a sleepy, sleepy person,

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Speaker 3: so this does not help A very sleepy person. Also

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Speaker 3: sad is real and I do have it, and I

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Speaker 3: don't like it, and as a depressive personality, this is

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Speaker 3: not okay. So I think we need to go away

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Speaker 3: from it completely because it's also confusing, like it really

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Speaker 3: wreaks havoc on you, and I don't understand why it's

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Speaker 3: not necessary, Like we've talked about it too many times.

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Speaker 3: We know it's not necessary anymore. Y'all are just trying

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Speaker 3: to fool us because you like tradition. I don't know

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Speaker 3: who you is, but I know.

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Speaker 2: As you you come out strong against I have some

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Speaker 2: opponent that's not really here, but yeah.

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Speaker 4: The government, the government.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're going to talk about that a little bit

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Speaker 2: because I know a lot of you have heard about this,

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Speaker 2: because there's been a lot of people like Samantha.

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Speaker 4: Who do not like it, who really don't like it.

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Speaker 2: There's been a lot of research about how it does

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Speaker 2: impact our bodies and like the history of it and

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Speaker 2: why are we still doing it. I am going to

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Speaker 2: talk about that a little bit. I used to like it.

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Speaker 2: Interestingly enough, I liked Fall. I liked the one in Fall,

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Speaker 2: which is Fallback, because I got the extra hour.

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Speaker 3: The extra hour does seem nice foolery because it's all

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Speaker 1: You're like, this is not okay.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So as I got older, the extra hour meant less.

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Speaker 4: So less and less, so I don't like it anymore.

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Speaker 4: I really really don't like it.

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Speaker 2: And I never like to the spring spring forward one

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Speaker 2: the extra hour of sun. List sort of the thing.

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Speaker 2: I used to run wine and dine the Disney Race

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Speaker 2: every year. It happens over daylight saving and I'd be

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Speaker 2: I don't like it anymore. I had a friend, I

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Speaker 2: think I've told this story before in college. She would

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Speaker 2: So I did want to go over some brief history

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Speaker 2: concept in seventeen eighty four, believing that rising earlier would

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Speaker 2: economize candle usage and save people money money pushing glogsfoord

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Speaker 2: to make greater use of daylight during the warmer months.

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Speaker 2: Was formally adopted during World War One as part of

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Speaker 2: a global attempt to conserve energy. So, yeah, it's been

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Speaker 2: around for a while, but you know, people do actually

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Speaker 2: still make arguments similar to this when they're saying this

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Speaker 4: We keep it. But a lot of people are like, no,

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Speaker 4: it doesn't work like that anymore.

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Speaker 3: We have to use more electricity during the time darker, sooner.

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Speaker 1: We're act rude.

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Speaker 2: We're actually capturing kind of the how it plays out.

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Speaker 2: What a lot of people argue about this Right now.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 1: I hate it so much.

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Speaker 2: So Yes, studies have found it is not good for

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Speaker 2: our health, including increased risk of heart attack and stroke.

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Speaker 2: It has been shown to impact our sleep end more

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Speaker 2: so for women, and less sleep also increases health risk. However,

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Speaker 2: there are conflicting studies or maybe more accurately like counterpoint

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Speaker 2: studies that are about mostly about the light part, about

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Speaker 2: for the better. So there are there are arguments on

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Speaker 2: like the Sunshine Protection Act to do so, and there

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Speaker 2: at least the seventies. So here's a quote from CNN.

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Speaker 2: During the energy crisis of the nineteen seventies, we tried

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Speaker 2: I feel like There's another argument to be made there though,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't matter if you're on a bus. Some

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Speaker 3: stupid daylight saving.

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Speaker 2: I guess what I'm saying is I've long felt this.

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Speaker 2: This is a different podcast. I feel like we're if

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Speaker 2: you're talking about messing with sleep schedules and the school schedules,

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Speaker 2: we have kids on young kids, you're messing with their

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Speaker 2: saving time is the answer to that.

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Speaker 4: It could be maybe we shift the schedule of the

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, I don't know that that's the

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Speaker 3: There's so much because bus riding accessibility. There's a lot

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Speaker 3: Who's protected, who's not? Like there this is a whole

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Speaker 1: Yep, that has to be had in general. But darkness

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Speaker 2: No, No, it doesn't. Here's another quote from CNN. In

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Speaker 2: Most of Arizona and some territories in the Pacific and

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Speaker 4: And it was.

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Speaker 2: Confusing because my older brother was swearing me up and down, like, no,

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Speaker 2: daylight saving doesn't exist anymore. I was like, I'm pretty

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Speaker 2: sure it does. Like, well, I feel like I would

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Speaker 2: have heard of that if it had gone away. No,

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Speaker 2: us to women specifically and daylight saving time because I

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Speaker 2: So from WRC, here's a quote. The joy was for

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Speaker 2: not take street harassment or sexual assaults seriously. Not only

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Speaker 2: but we are also acutely aware that society still holds

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Speaker 2: So this article they it's opens with them having kind

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Speaker 2: we all feel when we are alone on the street,

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Speaker 2: particularly at night, the restriction we have with the amount

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's actually could be the implication of like a

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Speaker 2: Hmm, yeah, it has a lot of implications. I did

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Speaker 2: want to end with. I found this article and at first,

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Speaker 2: daylight saving time or die trying by rl Mazes. I

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Speaker 2: hope I got that smote right quote work over time

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Speaker 2: for working overtime. You're a woman working extra as your thing.

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Speaker 2: Two Cook a gourmet meal that's vegan, gluten free, free, ketogenic,

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Speaker 4: Three.

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Speaker 2: Engage in some emotional labor. Four plan your political campaign.

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Speaker 2: Bake cookies and brandish them at a press conference where

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Speaker 2: you shout we can have it all. Go home and

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Speaker 2: run twenty miles and take a dozen step classes.

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Speaker 2: If you're a young woman, practice walking in heels, putting

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Speaker 2: If you're no longer young, dye your hair and have

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Speaker 2: many times when I find these articles for women, the

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Speaker 2: advice is like, work harder.

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Speaker 3: Right, do something creative, create things, be busy, yes, hate

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Speaker 2: you, your whole thing. And I should have known, like this

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Speaker 2: morning because I did this research this morning. When I

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Speaker 4: They're like, make use of your extra hour. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I love it, like you get an extra hour, this

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Speaker 4: It's sad but true.

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Speaker 1: Because we can't we don't want.

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Speaker 2: To cry exactly exactly well. I hope it's going well

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Speaker 2: you and I Samantha. Because it hasn't happened yet, I'll

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