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Speaker 1: But then I get a call from John Alvez, a

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Speaker 1: So for every dollar we put up to get the shirts,

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Speaker 1: That's what I do, with what Emmett does organizing the shirts.

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Speaker 1: a it's a comic book, horror movie autograph seeking geek

428
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Speaker 1: fest leading up to Halloween. So he was going to

429
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Speaker 1: be signing, uh in the room. Vinnie Vincent was like

430
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Speaker 1: from there, so, and you had a bunch of old

431
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Speaker 1: wrestler in seventies TV stars. Loretta Swift from Mash was there,

432
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Speaker 1: Major Hoolahan. So they had a bomb scare at the

433
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Speaker 1: Parcippity Hilton and he calls me up. He's like, you know,

434
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Speaker 1: don't bother comings a bomb scare. So after about four hours,

435
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 1: they opened the thing back up, and uh, it was

436
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 1: kind of past the time when most people are seeking autographs.

437
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Speaker 1: So all the celebrities, if you could call them that

438
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Speaker 1: for most of them started coming out and we're sitting

439
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Speaker 1: at the bar and I'm sitting there. You know, none

440
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 1: none of us drove. It was fine. My wife was drinking.

441
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Speaker 1: I was drinking, My friends were drinking. CJ's drinking. Everyone's drinking,

442
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 1: drinking and drinking drinking. Brian Nobbs from the Nasty Boys

443
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 1: from the comes walking out. He's kind of be in

444
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Speaker 1: his like mid to late sixties, you know, he's just

445
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 1: you know, past his prime wrestler, very fat, and some

446
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: drunk guy takes a swing at him, you know what,

447
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 1: talking was going on about wrestling, and he takes a

448
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Speaker 1: swing at him, and you hear this loud fud and

449
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 1: it's Brian Nobbs on his back and he's screaming. My

450
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Speaker 1: shoulders just loocated. The first person off the bench into

451
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Speaker 1: the fight with this guy was c J. Ramone, Beer

452
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Speaker 1: down off the thing, he's off this table call. I

453
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 1: didn't even react, and then I see Chuck Zito come

454
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Speaker 1: running out of the crowd, so Chuck, Chuck. I'm like,

455
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: if this guy knew that the two guys about to

456
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Speaker 1: grab him, or c J. Ramone and Chuck Zero, he

457
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't knock down one of the Nancy boys. But

458
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Speaker 1: it was just when c J sat back down, it

459
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Speaker 1: was just like, that's a marine right his his he

460
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Speaker 1: heard he heard of the thing. It was so cartoonish

461
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 1: and comical, but he's such a marine that way. He

462
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 1: was off off his bar stool into the fight with

463
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Speaker 1: this guy before any of us. My wife and I

464
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Speaker 1: were like, what's what's what's happening, what's happening? That's more

465
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Speaker 1: eventful than anything else you would have seen there, because

466
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Speaker 1: it's really just guys sitting down signing autographs. I mean,

467
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Speaker 1: that's the story right there. But it was just so funny,

468
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: like it's the it's the geekiest. It's such a geek fest, right,

469
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Speaker 1: I mean, like the longest line that I saw when

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Speaker 1: people were I forgot the guy's name to play Captain

471
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Speaker 1: Stooping on the love Boat. But he had like an

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Speaker 1: hour long wait to sign up for that guy. You know, uh,

473
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: you know, there were there was by Ling was there.

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Speaker 1: There was like all these like a Carbon Electra was there,

475
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: but Carbon Electra got a picture with c J. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

476
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Speaker 1: he was. He was a literal rock star. But it

477
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 1: was just so funny how he was not c J.

478
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: Ramone bass player guy. He was c J. Ramone Marine guy.

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Speaker 1: When this old wrestler got knocked down, it was like

480
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Speaker 1: rolling around the floor yelling, um. Just a funny. He's

481
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: a really nice guy. You know every time I met him,

482
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Speaker 1: you know, we have really good conversation. Well, you know

483
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Speaker 1: again just just marine. Wasn't one of the other Ramons

484
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Speaker 1: there too, Richie Ramone. Yeah, yeah, he was in the

485
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Speaker 1: band for a very short period of time, and didn't

486
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Speaker 1: seem very happy about being there. I don't know, just

487
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: didn't seem like a very happy guy. Richie did. But Richie,

488
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Speaker 1: but yeah, but c J. C J was awesome. We

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Speaker 1: we I think we left that. We left the bar

490
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 1: a little after one am and he was texting. He

491
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: texted me at two thirty AM and I woke up

492
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Speaker 1: the next morning. I texted him back to thirty question

493
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 1: Mark and he's like, are you coming back? So I

494
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 1: went back uh to see him and he's like, yeah,

495
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: I went back to my room. Some of the other people.

496
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: We went through a bottle of Scotch. I'm like, that's hardcore.

497
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 1: He goes, Now, he goes, you want to get me

498
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Speaker 1: a beer? So walking in the hospitality guard, they came

499
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 1: back to the table and were sitting there and drinking

500
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Speaker 1: beers on a Sunday morning. After Yeah, at the Chiller

501
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: last year, Mike Thinn's waited in line. I think like

502
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 1: two hours to get me looks like a woman. If

503
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna ask, he doesn't look like Vinnie Vincent is

504
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: transitioning to a woman. Yes, I really ugly. Anyway, back

505
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: onto like stuff. Well, no, I mean I think we

506
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 1: covered a lot of that. I was actually going to

507
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: ask you about today's election. I mean, it's funny because

508
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Speaker 1: I know, Jack, because you haven't had enough of that yet. No, well,

509
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Speaker 1: you know I am. I am optimistic. I think that

510
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: you can look. I accept that people do not like

511
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's personalities. Prissella is the tweeting. I think some

512
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: people think the rallies are a little over the top,

513
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: but you can't. You know, he he is his Whether

514
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: or not you like his personality, it's kind of hard

515
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: to argue with three point seven percent unemployment and seven

516
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 1: point one four million unfilled jobs. I don't mean to

517
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Speaker 1: snap back into my role is the guy on the

518
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Speaker 1: Patriot Channel. I do the economy is strong right now,

519
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: right and and and I think this was the fate

520
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: of Bob Dole. Was that, you know, you had a

521
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Speaker 1: Republican House, of Republican Senate, a Democrat president who at

522
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: the time was a pretty moderate even conservative Democrat, President

523
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Speaker 1: Bill Clinton on on a lot of fiscal issues. UM,

524
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Speaker 1: but there was no what was the argument to change

525
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: the way things were going back in? Um? Is Bill

526
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: Clinton different than Donald Trump? Absolutely? UM? But I think

527
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Speaker 1: you'll see I think the Democrats are gonna flip flip

528
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: a bunch of seats. I think the Republicans hold it

529
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Speaker 1: by one. That's just my prediction. I am not I

530
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Speaker 1: am not one of these people that sits around we

531
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Speaker 1: are sitting around a glass table, but sits around a

532
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Speaker 1: glass table pretending that I can see the future. I

533
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Speaker 1: you know, I could be totally naive thinking that everybody's

534
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: voting on the economy like like I think they should

535
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 1: or I think I I know I did. I mean,

536
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: you were one of the people had it right on

537
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, so you know, well yeah, um but but

538
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: anything you find all the hemming and hong, I mean yeah,

539
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if the Republicans hang on to

540
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: both Senate and Congress. Yeah, and I think that there

541
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: will be a pretty hysterical mental breakdown. Um yeah, that

542
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: like we saw in because it's kind of like, oh no,

543
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: not again. You know, uh too many of these people

544
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: put their faith in these pulsters, who I think their

545
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: models are really outdated, and I think for the media,

546
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: what keeps them up at night does not keep the

547
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: rest of the country up night. Yeah. So you know

548
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say though, is Jack You've said

549
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: this often on the podcast that you're like you even

550
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: remember back when you were a kid, the I think

551
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: you said. It was the Clinton Bush senior election. People

552
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: were saying, this is the last election of our lifetime, folks,

553
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: you better get up and vote, better, better vote now.

554
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: Is there is there any election where it's not like that? Yeah,

555
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: let's see I say this. I don't like what people say.

556
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: This is a historic election. Every election is. Yeah, so

557
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 1: is there a president who is not history? One of

558
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: my conservative friends, uh posting on Facebook yesterday is like

559
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: pray for America for the next forty eight hours because

560
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: we might not have our freedom anymore. It's like, man,

561
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: calm down. So the point I wanted to make though,

562
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: is like I don't like to go into the hyperbole

563
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: of that. However, I mean for here in New York.

564
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if you disagree. I mean, I think

565
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: Cuomo is going to stay the governor. Unfortunately I voted

566
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: against him. But it is what it is. But if

567
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: you live in Texas or Florida, personally, I never thought

568
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: that you would come this close to possibly seeing a

569
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: senator from Texas or Florida whose anti gun and I

570
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: mean those are the they don't work down points. I'm not,

571
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: I mean, but but what about I mean, your guy

572
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: who lived in Florida, for it is one of as

573
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Speaker 1: pro gun states. And and you know they're possibly gonna

574
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: elect a guy gel him who's dudes strongly anti. Here's

575
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: the weird thing about that. You know, he is promoting

576
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: this real socialist agenda and he's trying to assure everyone

577
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: he's gonna pay for it by just raising the corporate text. Well,

578
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: whether it's the income tax or the corporate text, or

579
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: he's gonna find out very quickly, like they did in Vermont,

580
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: that you can't just offer single payer without doubling your

581
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: state budget. The money is going to have to come

582
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: from somewhere. And there's a reason why people move their

583
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: homes and their businesses to Florida. It's not because they

584
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: wanted to be more like New Jersey. Um, you know,

585
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: there's always there. It's it's the same thing. There's always

586
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: the constant fights over the wages paid at Disney. And

587
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: in the end, the state says, you know what, there's

588
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: only so far We're gonna push Disney. Now they are they,

589
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: like Amazon, likely to pick up a whereas and move out. No,

590
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: but when you look at the engine of the economy,

591
00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: their tourism, agriculture, and you're saying you're going to raise

592
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: the corporate tax, Well, that's gonna be paid somehow. That

593
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: has to be paid for somehow, just gonna get passed

594
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,719
Speaker 1: on the right. And it's it's this, it's this fantasy

595
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: that the Democrats throw out there though, well, we're gonna

596
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: have to raise taxes on those oil companies. Well you're

597
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: not raising taxes on the oil companies. When we go

598
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: to the pump, We're gonna pay for that. That's not

599
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: me saying that as a conservative voter. That's me saying

600
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Speaker 1: that as a basic understanding of basic people who believe

601
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: that stuff. For the people who have never had to

602
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: run a business before, they don't understand, like tax it's

603
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: just something you factor any your cost of doing business

604
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: and then whatever it is that goes into the retail

605
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: price of your product. You know. You know what I

606
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Speaker 1: find I find also funny is that John James, who

607
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: I think is a rock star, you know, guy, is

608
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: that the media is kind of throwing down the gauntlet

609
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: if you're not for Stacy Abrams and you're not for

610
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: uh uh Andrew Gillham, you're you're obviously some kind of

611
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: a bigot. Right. They'll let Beto Robert O'Rourke run around

612
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: kind of trying, you know, speaking Spanish, ignoring the fact

613
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: that take Cruz is actually Hispanic. That it's kind of

614
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: funny that we the worst thing you could be accused

615
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: of is being a racist. So instead of saying I

616
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: disagree with you, or let's debate these economic issues, or

617
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: let me explain why I think this works, work doesn't

618
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: work the meaning the Democrats have kind of thrown down

619
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Speaker 1: the gauntlet. If you're not with us, you're this terrible person.

620
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Speaker 1: And then you learn that lesson from the deplorable comment.

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Speaker 1: I think when the books are written on this decade,

622
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: political historians are gonna go, you know, the going all

623
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: in that everyone I don't like is Hitler was was

624
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: was a bad idea. That's a huge mistake. And I

625
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: think it's gonna cost them in mid terms. It obviously

626
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: cost them in we know that with hindsight. I think

627
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: it's going to cost them because they're not changing their ways.

628
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: They're just doubling down on the identity politics. And it's

629
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: not even identity politics. It's not if you said, we

630
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: need to have a more diverse government, we need to

631
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: encourage more people to run for office. Okay, more it's

632
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: more positive message. Yeah, that's different than saying everyone I

633
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: don't like is a Nazi, you know, and even more

634
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: bizarre when you say, well, I don't believe in socialism,

635
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: you're a nazi. Do you know? The second word in

636
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Speaker 1: National Socialist German Workers Party is socialist. It's almost like

637
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Speaker 1: you're being called pejoratives by people who don't even know

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00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,479
Speaker 1: the pejorative meaning. It's not just reflexive, it's like they

639
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Speaker 1: feel like they have to do that. And I think

640
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Speaker 1: especially not with mainstream Democrats, but especially people who are

641
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: on the far left, the Democratic Socialists and things like that,

642
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: those ideas don't have any real mainstream appeals. So I

643
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: think they really feel like they have to call you that.

644
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: That's like kind of the law of last resort for

645
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Speaker 1: them is they have to demonize everyone who doesn't feel

646
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Speaker 1: the same way they do as being some sort of fascist.

647
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Speaker 1: You know. It's funny is that the people who will

648
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Speaker 1: call my program or send me nasty emails are tweets

649
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: that you get fascist, racist, you know, you know, all

650
00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: these things and I'm pretty sure within two lines of

651
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: reading the email or thirty seconds of the call, that

652
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: you don't really understand what a fascist is. These are

653
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: just pejoratives who assigned to people that you don't like

654
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: that if you really understood how a fascist or national

655
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: socialist or communist economy worked, you wouldn't be saying to

656
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: people who lean libertarian that you're a fascist. I don't

657
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: think the garments, you're running healthcare, you're a Nazi. Wait

658
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: a second. It doesn't work, even even in a more

659
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Speaker 1: pragmatic sense. I mean, if you are on the far

660
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Speaker 1: far left, you're not gonna win votes. You're not going

661
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: to convince people to come over to your side by

662
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: constantly calling them fucking Nazis all the time. Like that's

663
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: not that's not an effective strategy. You also don't see

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Speaker 1: and I don't know if you guys, I'm sure you

665
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Speaker 1: covered this thing with Dan Crenshaw. I know, well yeah,

666
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Speaker 1: the first Now, what I find fascinating is I don't

667
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,239
Speaker 1: agree with Tammy Duckworth. I would never, ever, even just

668
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Speaker 1: to set it up, I would would I mock her

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Speaker 1: missing limbs. You know, whether I agree with her politically

670
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: or not. That woman gave have of her body to

671
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: left half of her body on on the battlefield. That

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00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: with that said, my arguments with her would be on

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Speaker 1: economics or the Constitution or the tenth Amendment. And it

674
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Speaker 1: would the idea that when you're dealing and I thought

675
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: it was hysterical with John McCain that when John McCain

676
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: was running against Barack Obama, he was this god awful person.

677
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,479
Speaker 1: But when you know he came into conflict with Trump

678
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: and it's like he's a veteran, he was a pow.

679
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: That's not what you said before that. But to be fair,

680
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: it's also because Trump's comments about McCain were I mean,

681
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: they were outright. I think there were worse than It

682
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 1: was funny listening to the people who were defending McCain,

683
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: who accused him of being a racist and in a

684
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: big years earlier that when you talk it's the same

685
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 1: thing though I'm trying to bring it into the military

686
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 1: that you look at what was said about Dan Crenshawn,

687
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Speaker 1: what has been said about conservative veterans. Conservatives would never

688
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: tolerate fellow conservatives using those kind of remarks against progressive veterans.

689
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Speaker 1: You know, John Kerry, you the anger at John Kerry

690
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: came from other veterans. It wasn't you know when you

691
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Speaker 1: look at disagreeing with a veteran. I would never mock

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Speaker 1: a veteran service, especially an injured one. Well, do you

693
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Speaker 1: want me to play? Let me play the quips since

694
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Speaker 1: we're talking about it. I didn't order to get into

695
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: right now, but it might as well. This is kind

696
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Speaker 1: of Dan Crenshaw. Come on, man, hold on. You may

697
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Speaker 1: be surprised to hear he's a congressional candidate from Texas

698
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: and not a hit man in a porno movie. I

699
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: don't think that's that that's the problem by Sarah. That's

700
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: exactly said. Whatever. Yeah, let me go back to that.

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Speaker 1: This was the part. I'm sorry. I know he lost

702
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: his eye and war whatever that was really. I agree

703
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: said lost his iron war or whatever that that was

704
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: really because the first joke would have been a joil.

705
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I agree entirely with what you just said.

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00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: And you know what, I want to play Dan Crenshaw's

707
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Speaker 1: response because I actually appreciated the fact that and Crenshaw

708
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: didn't say, like I'm outraged, we need to boycott NBC,

709
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: And I think it actually shows that I mean I

710
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: don't personally, as someone who is more right leaning and

711
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: does vote for more Republicans, I don't want us to

712
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 1: be the language police and the PC police, the way

713
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 1: that the Democrats have said, we can't have a pool

714
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: on the Simpsons anymore, you know what I mean. I

715
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: do think you have to be consistent in that. And

716
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Speaker 1: I like the fact that Dan Crenshaw's response was really classy.

717
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: So this is what he said to TMZ. I want

718
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: us to get away from this culture where we demand

719
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: apologies every time someone misspeaks. I think that would be

720
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: a very healthy for our nation to to go in

721
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Speaker 1: that direction. Uh. You know, we don't need to be

722
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: we don't need to be outwardly outraged. I don't need

723
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: to demand apologies from them. They can do whatever they want. Um,

724
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's they're feeling the heat from around the

725
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: country right now, and that's that's fine. Like him and

726
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live to recognize something, which is that veterans

727
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: across the country probably don't as though their wounds they

728
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: received in battle should be the subject of a bad

729
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: punchline for a bad joke. And here's the real atrocity

730
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Speaker 1: of all this. It wasn't even funny. Right, it was

731
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: not original, It was not funny. It was just mean spirited.

732
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Speaker 1: And that's that. That's how I feel about it. I

733
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: laughed at that because that's Crenshaw just being like, bro,

734
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: it wasn't even funny, you know, Like you know what,

735
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've seen this when you watch movies that

736
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: it was Hollywood. Pete Davidson is not responsible for this,

737
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: but Hollywood created the burned out Vietnam veteran. You know,

738
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: Hollywood has had a an odd relationship with the veteran community.

739
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: On one side, actor so desperately want to play green

740
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: berets and Navy seals and pilots. You know, they want

741
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: to be an epic films like Saving Private Ryan and

742
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: what have you. And then you know when it when

743
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: it turns on, you know, you look at the comedy side.

744
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: I mean, how many cousin Eddie from the Vacation movies?

745
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: You know, you have this these constant movies that that

746
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: have the burned out dangerous you know Travis Bickle veteran.

747
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: You know that leaves people really believing that veterans really

748
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: are dangerous and shouldn't be around your children or your

749
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: place of business. Yeah, I mean it's really weird, how

750
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Speaker 1: like being a Vietnam veteran was a kind of a

751
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: taboo thing socially, and I think it kind of the

752
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: first thing I think of actually think of one movie

753
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Speaker 1: except The Green Berets, maybe one movie that focused on

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Speaker 1: the heroism of men who went into the Vietnam. I'm

755
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 1: so out of this, I don't know movie. Well, well,

756
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 1: I think the one that really like popularized or commercialized

757
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 1: that that the notion of it is, um the Lethal

758
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: Weapon movies. When mel Gibson played like they they that

759
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: movie trying to make Special Forces tattoo. Yeah, they like

760
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 1: romanticized it, you know, being like the burned out, crazy

761
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: Vietnam veteran. And I think that kind of started like

762
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: a trope, you know in Hollywood. Do you have that

763
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: Special Force attenive? You know, the see what I'm talking about,

764
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Speaker 1: You're here to arrest Trixie. So I don't know, should

765
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Speaker 1: that be throat punch of the week. I I'll be honest,

766
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Speaker 1: I wasn't. I'm not a veteran. But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't really ouraged. I know, Pete Dominic kind of

768
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Speaker 1: Pete Domin, Pete Davidson, you know because I work I've

769
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: worked with you so long that he was always in

770
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Speaker 1: our office. Pete Davidson, I know, it's very much like

771
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: a kind of over the top comic. I remember when

772
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: he would go on Opie and Anthony was he was

773
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: very like brutal. It's of comedy about his own father

774
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: dying in nine eleven. I you know a lot of comedians.

775
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: He was a police officer, right, there's a firefighter. I

776
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: feel like for some of these guys, if you can't

777
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: afford therapy, you go to open mic night. Like there's

778
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: some of these guys say things that you wouldn't say,

779
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: even kiddingly to someone who you know you might be

780
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: paying by the hour. It's like it's like there's some

781
00:39:55,239 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: weird self loathing thing about many comedians. And I'm not

782
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: saying it's all because there's some very funny people out there,

783
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: but some of them seemed to be very tortured people,

784
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: and like we're kind of laughing at their pain and

785
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: like you're not sure that they're kidding sometimes. Well, it's like, uh,

786
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: I think ice Cube said about the barber Shop movies.

787
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: You know he made it because like in a barber

788
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: shop there's things you can say there that you wouldn't

789
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: say anywhere else ever, And comedy is kind of the

790
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 1: same way, you know, comedy clubs and that that culture.

791
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: But there's there's you know, where's the funny? Where's the

792
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: funny here? Like Crenshaw said, the joke wasn't funny. People

793
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: laughed uncomfortably at that, you know, and it was he

794
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: didn't need to. I think if he just left it

795
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: at that first part, it would have been like, all right,

796
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Speaker 1: and moved on to some other traffic. But there was

797
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: that discomforting, this that unnecessarily and discomforting follow up that

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Speaker 1: I don't know that I felt the same way. I'm

799
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Speaker 1: not worried about by the way. In the end, I

800
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 1: think we're always gonna remember this is what I mean. Personally,

801
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Speaker 1: I don't I don't give a ship. And I think,

802
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: you know Dan friend Shall, we've had him on the

803
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: show before, and I mean, he's a down to earth guy.

804
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 1: It helps him in the end. I bet you there's

805
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: probably people who don't was he a medic, because next

806
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: time Pete Davison overdoses on some junk, he might need

807
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: Terry Shapherd to come rescue him. And I think You're

808
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: absolutely right, though, Andrew, like, if they were cracking jokes

809
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: on Tammy Duckworth, that would not have been okay with,

810
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: Like liberals would have gone, that wouldn't have been okay

811
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: with with anyone in your in the community either, right.

812
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I think that people can disagree.

813
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: But I think if somebody went out there and made

814
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: some sick joke about Tammy Duckworth, I think veterans would

815
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: be like, whoa, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I think I

816
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: think you're correct, um, but yeah, well, and I do

817
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: think this will be forgotten at some point. But as

818
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: I said, I bet you there's people who don't fother

819
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: their local congressional race and they're like, oh, this guy

820
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: is a Navy seal, uh, you know, risked his life

821
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Speaker 1: in combat. I'm gonna vote for him. I bet you'll

822
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: get him some votes. Yeah in Texas. Yeah, Chris Kyle

823
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 1: and Marcus Rail and yeah, I think well, I think, yeah,

824
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: is he doing well? By the way, because we had

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Speaker 1: I have not you know what I have. I have

826
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 1: not been tracking a lot of these house poles because again,

827
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Speaker 1: it's so boring to sit there for three hours and

828
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: talk about literally four and thirty five races. I realized

829
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: not all of them are toss ups. I realized that

830
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Speaker 1: some of them are Republican or Democrat are really secure.

831
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Speaker 1: But the polling data you're you're talking about a system

832
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Speaker 1: whereby which, first of all, it's predicatd up people picking

833
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: up the phone and then and then sitting there and

834
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Speaker 1: answering a series of questions where you don't even know

835
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Speaker 1: the nature of the question. I've I've answered some of

836
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: these things, and you know, they'll they'll ask you questions

837
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: and you don't even know why they're asking you. They

838
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: don't ask you straight questions. You can studer yourself a

839
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: liberal or conservative? Do you normally? It's it. They'll ask

840
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 1: you things like do you think health care should be restricted? Uh? No? Uh?

841
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: You know I know what you mean, because I I've

842
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: answered those political polls at times where they call your

843
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: cell phone just for the hell of it, and yeah,

844
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 1: it's a lot of like from one to ten, where

845
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 1: is this stuff like that? The worst is the robot poles,

846
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Speaker 1: because who the hell is sitting through I wouldn't care

847
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: if I got a robocoll that said hi, I think

848
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: Andrew Wilka is the greatest radio show on Earth Press.

849
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: Wonder if you agree, I'd be like off. You know,

850
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: a lot of these are the robot poles where you're

851
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: supposed to say like you said, They ask you a

852
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: series of questions from one to ten. Who is answering those?

853
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: You can't? Yeah, like little old ladies. You know how

854
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: many of them? Okay, I guess by by now they

855
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: have cell phones, but for the longest time they were

856
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: still relying on landlines. So I think I think the

857
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: polling has been so bad lately, and this belief that

858
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: some of these prognosticators like Nate Silver can't be wrong.

859
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: That guy was dead wrong, and like the and What's

860
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: what was really fascinating, um, and I was doing my

861
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 1: own live coverage, was the meaning had gone all in

862
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: that this Trump thing was just a show. It was

863
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: a joke. His idiot voters were eventually gonna learn their

864
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: lesson and we were going to move into the Clinton presidency.

865
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: And it almost became like this question of mental health

866
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 1: and well being for for the I'm with her crowd,

867
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: not just moderate Democrats are talking about the bumper sticker crowd.

868
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: And I feel like they did it again with this election.

869
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: They were ju July, they were sure blue wave, blue wave,

870
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: blue wave. And even this morning I flipped to I

871
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: was slipping the channels like Morning Joe, and there's Joe

872
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: Scarborough saying, I don't know, you know, like they're all

873
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: sitting there with these like dead pan bases, like like

874
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: like you know, you shouldn't you shouldn't go all in

875
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: on these things when you don't really know. That's why

876
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. Well, it's like they're trying to

877
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: build the enthusiasm, build a consensus like this is the

878
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: right side of history. You need to be with us.

879
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: And uh, I know we we've both talked about this before, Andrew,

880
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: but I don't know what if you have any additional

881
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: thoughts on this that I feel like since the Trump election,

882
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: we've seen even the facade of objectivity dropped, Like the

883
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: cards seem like they're really on the table media in

884
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: a way that they haven't been in the past, like

885
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: like this is if they are all in full tilt,

886
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: this is the agenda, Like you better get on board.

887
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: I think last time I was on with you guys,

888
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: we talked about new new media a little bit, and

889
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: I think what separates new media from traditional media is

890
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: we don't take the audiences intelligence for granted. I think

891
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 1: some of these people still think that this is Walter Cronkite,

892
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: it's the It's ninety voice from God, and whatever they

893
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: put on television is what it is. You know. Starting

894
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: with the Dan rather Dot National Texas Ter National Guard

895
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: document scandal, that's not the first time it was happy

896
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 1: it happened. It was the first time someone major got caught.

897
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: And I think the media did not say to what's

898
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: of you know, we're in a new era. We're in

899
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: an era of internet, you know, sleuths and and and

900
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: new media and if we lie again, we're gonna get

901
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: caught again. A lot more data transparency, a lot. I

902
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: think the media consumer is way more savvy today than

903
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: they were fifty years ago. And if you're gonna be

904
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: an opinion journalist, just say it. You know what people say, Well, Hannity, Hannity,

905
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 1: Ingram and Tucker aren't pretending they're doing the news. They're

906
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: pretty clear that what you're watching is an opinion news

907
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: talk show. Some of these programs on seeing an MSNBC

908
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: where they're trying to pretend they're just doing the news.

909
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: And here's what's happening. You can't watch that first thing.

910
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: I don't even think their audience believes. I think their

911
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: audience is rooting it on, Like give us your opinion,

912
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: you know, come on, Rachel Battell, tell us how much

913
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: you hate Donald Trump. The phony object You're right, the

914
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 1: phony objectivity is almost insulting at this point. How about

915
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: the lack of fact checking. I couldn't believe with the

916
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: Gilham race they reviewed as as a random voter. Did

917
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: you see the graphic they put up the other night

918
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: they put up a victory graphic they had there. They

919
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: had the graphic where they had already had Gilham had

920
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: the check and it had his percentage and they had

921
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: to take it down. What do you think the reason

922
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: behind that? I don't. I don't know, I don't. I mean, yeah,

923
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: it's like they've already decided who's gonna win and now

924
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: they have to manufacture the reality. And it's just kind

925
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: of spooky to see all of that that there's not

926
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: even a like I said, the facade of objectivity, it

927
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: isn't even there. Some of some of these and discredits journalism.

928
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: It does, And look, you're a journalism school grad. I'm

929
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 1: a journalism school grad. So I didn't go to journalism school.

930
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: I thought you went to Columbia School of Journalism. No,

931
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 1: my wife did. Okay, I was a political science okay,

932
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 1: political Sorry, just were you a journalism minor or? No,

933
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: it was radio and policy sign minor. No, well they

934
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: ask your wife. Some of these people, you know, reading

935
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: teleprompter is it's it's on skill. It's not a tough

936
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: thing to develop, but some people are better at it

937
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: than others. You notice when some of these anchors, especially

938
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: in the daytime programs, veer off the script and start,

939
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: you know, giving their own asking their own questions. You

940
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: get some real dumb moments, you know, on on on

941
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 1: the news, if you could call it the news, and look,

942
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: I get it, it's television. You have to have pretty

943
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: people doing these things. But somebody should be telling them

944
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: things like this, like Katie Turr, Like there's like the

945
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: Free Beacon has a whole montage of like facts she's

946
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: gotten wrong, um, screwing up districts, screwing up races, screwing

947
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: up amendments to the Constitution. It's kind of the audience

948
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: should not inherently no more than you. Yeah, I mean,

949
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 1: I don't think it was on his teleprompter when Don

950
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: Lemon said that white males are the biggest terrorists. That's

951
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: a perfect example of the doubling down on the stupidity

952
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: like that is a failed strategy right there, It doesn't work.

953
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: But the truth is, he'll always get behind you. It's crazy,

954
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: Like I'm not gonna go in there. I said that

955
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: in pazzling in by Radio, So I go, hey, when

956
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: it comes to white men, always know this, Don Lemon

957
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: is right behind you, Jesus, because you know what, you

958
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 1: can call that a homophobic remark. He could just condemn

959
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: an entire group of people for nothing, you know. And

960
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: it's interesting how they and that's not dangerous, you know that.

961
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,959
Speaker 1: That's that's the funny thing is that when they talk

962
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: about dangerous rhetoric and responsibility in media and then they

963
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: go out and say things like the most the most

964
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: likely terrorists or the most dangerous group of people are

965
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: white males, It's like, okay, are you not hearing yourself? Well,

966
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: it's like they tell us all the time, and I

967
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 1: agree that not all Muslims are terrorists and we should

968
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 1: not demonize all Muslims like that that the left asks

969
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: us to see these nuances and things like like race, um,

970
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: like in gender. But then there are these other subjects

971
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: like the white male comment, where all the nuances stripped

972
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: right out of it and it's just black and white

973
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: white men are dangerous terrorists. Well, you know what there's

974
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: And I think there's a competition sometimes with progressives and

975
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: media who can say the because the most woke thing,

976
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: the most woke thing. And you know, if you're a

977
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: conservative and media, if you're or you're just an out

978
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: conservative in your in your life, you know, there are

979
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: some things that if you say it, it's different than

980
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: when somebody else says it. Right, Like there are people

981
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: that I you know, at work at Serious XM, I

982
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: don't breathe if they you know, if I'm in the

983
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: coffee room and I'm waiting for my cup of coffee,

984
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: I don't breathe. You know, there's there's there's there's no

985
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: body language, there's just you know, it's like waiting for

986
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: the super good day. I have an idea who they are,

987
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 1: Cafe Bona, you know. And I think the reason why

988
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: progressives are able to get away with this is that

989
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: they have been shielded, no outlook. It's changed a little

990
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: bit in the whole me too thing. Um, but they

991
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: have been shielded largely from the demands of their own

992
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: their own roommaking. And it's kind of the excuse. It's

993
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: okay when it's what, it's okay when we do it.

994
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: It's it's the same thing you see with antifa. It's

995
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: the same thing you see with some of the violence.

996
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: If you had videos of people kicking over campaign signs

997
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 1: or throwing coffee in somebody's face, or ripping hats off

998
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: of somebody's head, and they were conservatives, you the media.

999
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: One of my favorite things is that, look, I think

1000
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: you could be an asshole without being a racist. I

1001
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: think all racists are assholes, but not all assholes are racists.

1002
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 1: And and and when you see these videos like, uh,

1003
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: white woman barrates Asian woman in supermarket, she could be

1004
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: an asshole without being a racist. You know that's the

1005
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: but we get these. Yahoo is very good at this,

1006
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: and so are some of the other clickbait sites, that

1007
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: this is the social condition of every single we can

1008
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: derive a social truth. This is a social truth. You know,

1009
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: this is the list of things black women can't do, unless,

1010
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: of course your candid. So when somebody throws a drink

1011
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: in your face and then we don't talk about it.

1012
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: But we've created now this this sort of like these

1013
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: unwritten rules where none of us really know what they

1014
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: are until we're prosecuted under them. And this is a

1015
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: social condition that we that we have created. And oh look,

1016
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: here's a YouTube video from some parking lot. You know, hey,

1017
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: you know what I was going to ask you about that.

1018
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: We got here from charities. You know, well, I mean

1019
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: I wanted to get into the election. Oh, I realized

1020
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: that the radio podcast is a is a well rounded

1021
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: there's some I realized that Jack Murphy has much dimension.

1022
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that we've we've come, We've come far

1023
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: down this week. We do plenty of jerrymandering up her own.

1024
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: It's it's so no. You know what I wanted to

1025
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: ask you though, is I feel like, just working with

1026
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: you so long, I know almost as much about your

1027
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 1: career as you do. Like the majority of your radio

1028
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: career was spent during the Obama administration, because that was

1029
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: eight years. I know that we're doing rock radio, you know,

1030
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: and part of the Bush administration, but I mean that

1031
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: was eight giant years. You didn't know anybody working for

1032
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 1: the Obama administration. And then if you look at this administration,

1033
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 1: we know people personally working with us who are there,

1034
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: Guys like Ryan Zinky you've had on the show plenty

1035
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 1: of times are in the administration. Like you've had people

1036
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,919
Speaker 1: go from serious X, I'm into the administration, Steve Bann

1037
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: And so what's the difference for you and doing media

1038
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: with an administration where you know a lot of the

1039
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: guys there nothing? You know if when Trump and I

1040
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: don't think he meant it seriously and I know it

1041
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't be possible when he said maybe I'll just change

1042
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: the fourteenth Amendment, No you can't do that. Yeah, I have.

1043
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: I have made it very clear that supporting the things

1044
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: that President Trump does that makes sense the Conservatives does

1045
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 1: not include a forgiveness for things he may say or

1046
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: do that you know, if he says I can change

1047
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: the Constitution with with an executive order, no you can't.

1048
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: And the reason why I do that is because I

1049
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: would say the exact same thing if it were Barack Obama.

1050
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: That that when we look at things presidents seek the

1051
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: power to do. If you're if you're a true conservative,

1052
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: constitutionalist or libertarian, you have to be willing to say

1053
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: no president can do this. There are crowds on both sides.

1054
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: Republicans do it as well, that I like it when

1055
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Speaker 1: my guy does it. I am not an I like

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Speaker 1: it when my guy does it kind of guy that

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Speaker 1: if you want to change a piece of legislation, you

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00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: want an amendment the constitution, you want to exercise authority,

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00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,720
Speaker 1: it has to be within the scope of your enumerated powers.

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Speaker 1: If it's not, you are you're operating outside the constitution.

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Speaker 1: But don't you think he says stuff like that just

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Speaker 1: to dominate the media cycle for like, however seventy two

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Speaker 1: hours so he can keep them on that he can

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Speaker 1: just own the media. It avazes me how the media

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Speaker 1: it's complicit in it. Yeah, they just I mean even

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Speaker 1: John Stewart has come out and said, you guys are

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00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: playing narcissism. That this president's speaking style is so unique

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Speaker 1: to modern e A presidents that you know, if somebody said,

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00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: President Trump, would you just eliminate an amendment? Yeah? Share,

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Speaker 1: you know, like like you know, he has a whatever whatever,

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00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: you know, we'll put these people work camps whatever, whatever. Man. Yeah, Yeah,

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00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: putting put putting nuclear weapons on the moon. Yeah, we're

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00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: gonna do that, you know, like he he just I yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to excuse any of that, that reckless

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Speaker 1: kind of speech. But at the same time, we have

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00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: to for our own mental health, we have to start

1077
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: to understand, like that is not a realistic possibility. He's

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00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: just saying stupid ship and tomorrow it's going to be

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Speaker 1: something different. And I think, you know, his counsel, I

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Speaker 1: think even I think even his most ardent supporters in

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00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: the administration, I think Mike Pence would walk right into

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00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: the overlabs. It comes to president, you cannot change the

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Speaker 1: postitution with with an executive order. Uh. But see, this

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Speaker 1: is also part of the problem, is that in that

1085
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: it's okay when my guide does it kind of things.

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00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: The meeting the Democrats gave Obama really wide latitude to

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00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: do things. Uh. The killing of Anwar al Alawi. Look,

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00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: this is this is soft rip. Right. We know the

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00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: world is a better place without on War Alacky, but

1090
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: you can't drone strike an American citizen's son without kid.

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00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 1: They killed his kid, and the media, the media did

1092
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: did not make that a bone to pick with the administration.

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00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: When the media was wire tapped by the administration. Their

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00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: response was I love you the beast and furious um.

1095
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: DOCTA was a fundamental change in how how we look

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00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: at immigration with the with with an Article to power,

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00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: and because the media gave so much, it was it

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00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: was almost amazing to watch the media on day one

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00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: of the Trump administration pretend that Article two powers didn't

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Speaker 1: transfer and that president hadn't been set And this is why, again,

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00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: it's not okay when my guy does it. They were

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00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: pretending like Trump invented the global War on terror and

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00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: Trump invetted the executive where he invented North Korea? Where

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00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: the hell have you guys been? This is why consistency

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00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 1: and Obama mocked consistency. You know, I remember Ted Cruz

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00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 1: famously saying, you know, I don't want Obama issuing any

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00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: more issuing these executive orders, because I don't think any

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00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: president should be issuing these types of executive orders. And

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00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: if an executive order is directly related to an Article

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00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: to Power a piece of legislation, that's a different story.

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00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: But the whole cloth create policy that that circumvents specific

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00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: and numerated powers of Congress in Article one, that is

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00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: not what a president is supposed to be doing. And

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00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: we have tolerated a lot. We have tolerated um case

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Speaker 1: law President from the Supreme Court, we have we have

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00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: tolerated a lot of things big government has done. And

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00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: then we get mad when the sea changes and the

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00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: other side is in power and they go, oh, oh,

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00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: now we can do it too. Instead of saying, you

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Speaker 1: know what, tenth amendments a good thing, it's a very

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00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: cynical approach to politics that you know, we're just gonna

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00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: use these things as weapons against our political opponents. But

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Speaker 1: then when our personal party of Choices in office, we're

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Speaker 1: going to ignore all of it. If we try to

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Speaker 1: imagine the cottage industry of activism, both on the legal

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Speaker 1: side and the street organizing side, if we restricted, let's say,

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court to its Article three powers and said no,

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00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: no federal policy could come out of the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 1: They could turn back laws, they could strike down laws,

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00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: but they can't replace laws with other laws. So if

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Speaker 1: Jane Row thinks that, you know, an abortion of federal

1132
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: ban on abortion or abortion restrictions unfair, will settle this

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Speaker 1: back in Congress or back in the state where she resides.

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00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: Try to imagine if you couldn't get a gay marriage

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Speaker 1: law of the Supreme Court. You had to fight it

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00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: out the state level or fight for a piece of

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00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: legislation where marriage is not even mentioned in the constitution.

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Speaker 1: So it really would be if the the fighting, the

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00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: constant fighting over things that the Constitution was not designed

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00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: to resolve at the federal went away. You have an

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00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: entire industry of people who's entire career is the is

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00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: the grievance industry? I mean, correct me if I'm wrong,

1143
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Speaker 1: But isn't the reason why marriage licenses exist wasn't it

1144
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: to stop interracial marriage? Back it was to stop the undesirables,

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00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: which included, yes, interracial marriage. You know they made that

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00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: that that movie Loving because that's the Loving case. You know.

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00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: It's funny. And I've debated this many times, sometimes with

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00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,919
Speaker 1: the gay rights activists, and they'll say, well, you conservatives,

1149
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: don't you know you wouldn't let blacks and whites marrying,

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00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: you don't want gays to marry. And I'll say things like,

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Speaker 1: but I don't see that in the constitution. I don't

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Speaker 1: even know why we're talking about the function here. Why

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Speaker 1: does our government even because if the garden because because

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Speaker 1: here's my my simple as I'm I'm a human events

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00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: kind of person. Okay, you passed a law that says

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Speaker 1: that says these people can't get married, but how do

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00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,479
Speaker 1: you stop them procreating? Right? So clearly, clearly this piece

1158
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: of paper didn't stop them from doing what you want

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00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: them to do, and you have no real way to

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00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: police that that that why don't we look at ways

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01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: to get the government out of things instead of the

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Speaker 1: government issue? And the more things we get the government into,

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01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: the more things we're gonna be fighting over with the government.

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01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,919
Speaker 1: If we get government out of more things, we will

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01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 1: be a happier people. And I know that I argue

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01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: this all the time that the tenth Amendment, if you

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01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 1: don't want you'll hear people say, well, I hate Betsy Devaz,

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Speaker 1: I don't want her running education, right, So why don't

1169
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: down to the states? Why don't we kick it down

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01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: to the states and you can run education in California,

1171
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: and Texas will run education, and the Laboratory of Good

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Speaker 1: Ideas or will will determine which state has made the

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01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: right choice, and we'll go forward from there. But there's

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Speaker 1: this sense that if we aren't doing if it isn't

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01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: central planning. It's nihilism if we haven't, if we aren't

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01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: doing everything from the hub of Washington, it's just some

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01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: sort of like Hobbsy and Nightmare where you know, it's

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01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: brother against brother in the streets, you know, with lawlessness

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01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: and anarchy. Right, And I think, you know, I think

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Speaker 1: this is one thing I don't like about the academic progressives,

1181
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 1: freeing freeing people who just vote Democrat is the fundamental

1182
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: distrust that people can't be trusted to run their own

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01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: lives on any level that we need we need. We

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Speaker 1: We have a school not far from here called the

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01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: New School of Social Research, and it's literally the the

1186
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: Harvard of Social Justice Warrioredom, where these people are trying

1187
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: to figure out how to run your life for the

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01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: moment you you know, born, to the minute you die,

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Speaker 1: basically like you know, a Soviet state. Yes, I mean

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Speaker 1: that is like a hallmark that I see in the

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01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: way we talk about guns and blowing ship up. Just

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Speaker 1: I do want to do We will get into this, okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean when we have you an intellectual Jack Murphy,

1194
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 1: but tell me something about but you're the talk radio

1195
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: political we can do this. Yeah, no, I know, but

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Speaker 1: I think you're right, it's a drinking fighting and fucking

1197
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 1: do you need me talking about that. I realize there's

1198
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 1: sensitive ears in the room, but you've cursed. It's something

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Speaker 1: with the far left. They're really they don't believe if

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Speaker 1: that any of us can be trusted with our own

1201
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: thoughts and ideas and opinions, and we need some ivory

1202
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: zero of what we're supposed to believe, what we're allowed.

1203
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 1: I remember when Brooklyn was this hodgepodge of places you

1204
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't go at two o'clock in the morning, and now

1205
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 1: the hipsters have taken over absolutely, you know. Actually on

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Speaker 1: the topic of um, like you know, national security and

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Speaker 1: all that, something we've talked about a lot on the show,

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Speaker 1: and I'm wondering your take. Do you think that um

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Speaker 1: Maddis is being pushed after John Bolton because it's a

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Speaker 1: very different ideology. I don't know. Um, Well, we're on

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Speaker 1: the sixty minutes interview where he said I think Mattis

1212
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Speaker 1: is kind of a Democrat. That's it was a weird statement.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that Maddis is a political guy exactly,

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Speaker 1: so that's why it was a strange statement. The guy,

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Speaker 1: I think it's been as a political as you can get.

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Speaker 1: I think I think that that obviously that if you're

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Speaker 1: somebody like Maddis, you think differently about war than somebody

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Speaker 1: like Bolton. Um. That's not to say that Bolton doesn't

1219
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: have good ideas or thoughts or isn't relevant to the

1220
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: subject matter, but I think there is a different but

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Speaker 1: different view if you've won the uniform and if you

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01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: haven't won the uniform. I think that's that's natural. But

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01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 1: that the National security consultant apparatus is filled with people

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Speaker 1: that I mean, you could watch any given you know program,

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Speaker 1: and you know, isn't it kind of amazing that you

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Speaker 1: could have never gone to the to the FBI Academy,

1227
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Speaker 1: the FBI director. You know that we have We have

1228
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Speaker 1: experts in the field who have never actually done the work,

1229
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Speaker 1: they've just been appointed in. Bolton is one of those guys.

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Speaker 1: He's a draft dodger. He copped out of Vietnam and

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Speaker 1: now he sees the military it's like this plaything that

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01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 1: he can just deploy our troops wherever topple governments and

1233
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: it's just his little Syrianni idea that we're going to reshape.

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Speaker 1: I don't share them you know, I I don't share

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Speaker 1: the military adventurism things. It's it's easy to say, you know,

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Speaker 1: we should just you know, who's the way, you know,

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Speaker 1: because because John Bolton and going nowhere, he ain't going

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Speaker 1: he ain't going over. At the same time, the understanding

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01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: of foreign policy dictatorial and or dangerous governments, you know,

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01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 1: is something that a civilian can obviously add to the mix.

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Speaker 1: And look looks must be honest. Trump hasn't proposed getting

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Speaker 1: isn't in crazy wars. He's actually been pretty restrained. I

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01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 1: would say for somebody with such a hot headed personality,

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01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 1: he's really kind of kind of pulled back. And I

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01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: know they're gonna be criticism of putting the military on

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Speaker 1: the border. I mean again, I see what you're saying

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Speaker 1: with that. Megan was the most conservative president and we

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Speaker 1: didn't have any big conflicting I mean, Trump has made

1249
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 1: those comments about like fire and fury in North Korea,

1250
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: but I see what you're saying. He's he hasn't gone

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Speaker 1: the opposite way, then he hasn't been His advice on

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Speaker 1: that came from madness, by the way, about moving ships

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Speaker 1: into into the you know, the South China Sea, and

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Speaker 1: so forth. Yeah, well, Maddis is he understands what's going

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Speaker 1: on in China and he's trying to get us back

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Speaker 1: in his South China. See. But I I think, man,

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Speaker 1: it has been pumping the brakes on a lot of

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Speaker 1: this stupidity. Um, but you're right. Trump has not been

1259
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Speaker 1: going around trying to start World War three like a

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Speaker 1: lot of us were afraid of him doing. But I think,

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Speaker 1: I think, but that was the fear with Ronald Reagan.

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Speaker 1: They they they were afraid that Ronald Reagan was going

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Speaker 1: to start World War three. And Ronald Reagan did not

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Speaker 1: get us into any conflict. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: the more progressive the president, the more likely the conflict

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Speaker 1: we've gotten into in the past hundred and five. And

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Speaker 1: that's a that's an interesting comment. And I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: not wrong if you look at what or the Clinton administrations.

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Speaker 1: He kept us out of war in Europe. We went

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Speaker 1: FDR in Europe, we went and Japan, Truman in into

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Speaker 1: Korea because LBJ Inoviet. The more progressive you are ideologically,

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Speaker 1: the more likely you are to have this belief that

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Speaker 1: we need to spread democracy all over the world and

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Speaker 1: make the rest of the world look like us. It's

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Speaker 1: like this ideological fallacy that these presidents and and just

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Speaker 1: people in general have is that we feel like we

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Speaker 1: need to make the rest of the world to look

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Speaker 1: more like America. Um. And that's just one, a facet,

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Speaker 1: a cornerstone of that ideology. And it's not to say

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Speaker 1: that they're the only ones. I mean, George W. Bush

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Speaker 1: obviously had his mind captured by those types of people,

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Speaker 1: which is why, as we've said on the show before,

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Speaker 1: bringing a John Bolton and this into this administration it

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Speaker 1: kind of echoes those things of why there was a

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Speaker 1: huge base of people who weren't big supporters of the

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Speaker 1: Bush family in general, and they were like, Trump is

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Speaker 1: going to be different. I thought, is as as you know,

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Speaker 1: status quo as it gets, you're never going to have

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Speaker 1: an administration that's absent of personalities from previous administrations. Mattis

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Speaker 1: is so well whited. I don't want to see him

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Speaker 1: pushed out. No, I haven't been following. I haven't been

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Speaker 1: following whether or not. I have not seen anything that

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Speaker 1: says he's, you know, being pushed out. Yeah, we'll see

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Speaker 1: what happens there. I'm not saying it's not gonna happen

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying I haven't you know, and then I

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Speaker 1: wanted to get into this article as well. I want

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Speaker 1: to make sure we talk about this. This is on

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Speaker 1: the news rep right now, written by stavros Um out

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Speaker 1: of San Diego, California. I'm gonna read the whole article

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Speaker 1: because it's really short. A second Navy seal has been

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Speaker 1: charged with war crimes on the alleged um killing of

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Speaker 1: an Islamic state prisoner in Iraq last last year. As

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Speaker 1: the ranking officer on the ground, Lieutenant Jacob Jake Portier

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Speaker 1: is accused of covering up another seal's war crimes. Special

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Speaker 1: Operations Chief Edward Eddie Gallagher has been accused of stabbing

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Speaker 1: to death and isis detainee. More specifically, Lieutenant Portier phases

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Speaker 1: an Article thirty two hearing for dereliction of duty. Although

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Speaker 1: the seal officer was not president at the alleged execution,

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Speaker 1: he is accused of not reporting Gallagher's actions up the

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Speaker 1: chain of command. Lieutenant Portier was the platoon leader of

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Speaker 1: Chief Gallagher. An Article thirty two hearing is a requirement

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Speaker 1: before a general court martial is adjoined. The hearing determines

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Speaker 1: whether there is sufficient evidence in proceed to the to

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Speaker 1: proceed to the next phase. According to investigators from the

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Speaker 1: Naval Criminal Investigative Service, Lieutenant Portier in chief Gallagher are

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Speaker 1: not the sole targets of the war crimes probe. It

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Speaker 1: appears that the n c i S is investigating, um,

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Speaker 1: more than a dozen seals in the leadership of the

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Speaker 1: Naval Special Warfare Group one, which was responsible for addressing

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Speaker 1: any war crime allegations. UM. I guess I don't need

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Speaker 1: to get into the rest, but I mean you've spoken

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Speaker 1: about before that this has been a ongoing problem with

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Speaker 1: the Seals, with specifically Seal Team six. So yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't have any you know, particular insights or insider knowledge

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Speaker 1: on this specific case. Um, It'll be interesting to see

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Speaker 1: how it turns out, though. UM, you know, there was

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Speaker 1: word leaking out that the investigation was ongoing because they

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Speaker 1: were thinking of charging additional seals with what had happened

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Speaker 1: out there. This is number two. Uh, we'll see what

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Speaker 1: else happens though. Uh. I am not just following this story.

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Speaker 1: I've been wrapped up in this in this mid term election.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty new too. This is not you know, there's

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's a whole lot out. Yet there's

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Speaker 1: the I mean, this is still ongoing. And then the

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Speaker 1: other one is the alleged murder of Staff Sergeant Melgar

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Speaker 1: and Molly dev Group operators. Um, and we're waiting on

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Speaker 1: that to go to Nobody wants try that. I only

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Speaker 1: lightly followed that one. Um. You know, one thing about

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Speaker 1: my program is if a topic is not a debatable

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Speaker 1: topic that I have that that I have a an

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Speaker 1: ability to debate myself, that we're it's not that we

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Speaker 1: ignore these things on purpose. Is that? What's the debate

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Speaker 1: if if you have something like a you know, seals

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Speaker 1: are accused of killing a green Berret sergeant. Well, that's

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Speaker 1: obviously awful. Uh. And I think nobody who's a veteran

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Speaker 1: or a civilian wants to believe that's something like that

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Speaker 1: would possibly happen, that that something would happen within the

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Speaker 1: ranks of the Special Operations community that would lead to

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Speaker 1: a I mean, I know it's a sick term friendly fire,

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Speaker 1: but not even a friendly fire like it's an a

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Speaker 1: like a purposeful fragging killing. Yeah. Well, I'm sure that

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Speaker 1: you know, as more comes out, it will be covered

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Speaker 1: on the website. So that's at the news rep dot com.

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Speaker 1: Stab Roast did that article. I'm sure there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: more that comes out. UM before we get out of here,

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Speaker 1: I do want to, of course mention what we have

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Speaker 1: you can watch all of those inside the team rooms.

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Speaker 1: I know some people have been wondering, like where are those?

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Speaker 1: West's story about us, Yes, and we don't think Jerry

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Speaker 1: Shepherd because he just said he just said it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if. Yeah, I think we

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Speaker 1: ended up censoring who he taught, who he spoke about,

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Speaker 1: right enough, But uh, you know there's nonetheless I'll say

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Speaker 1: it right now. It's uh yeah, I wouldn't rescue right now,

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Speaker 1: but it's uh the spec Ops channel. Uh check that

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Speaker 1: out right now. Spec ops channel dot com a month.

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Speaker 1: That's for a limited time off your membership. Um. We

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Speaker 1: our stuff. So we have the SOFTWAUP radio app. Now,

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Speaker 1: I actually just got an emails checking the emails today

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Speaker 1: of where is the radio show on the news rep app?

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Speaker 1: We have a SOFTWAREP radio app. And I mean the

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Speaker 1: show has been getting more listens than ever now that

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Speaker 1: we're on like Spotify, we're doing these YouTube videos. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's it's just great to see we're you know, hitting,

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Speaker 1: we're hitting a larger demo than we ever had before.

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Speaker 1: I am always checking statistics and uh, you know, especially

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Speaker 1: the Dale Comstock interview not even four hundred the one

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Speaker 1: before that got like a huge amount of listening. If

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Speaker 1: you haven't listened to it, the last one with Dale Comstock,

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Speaker 1: He's like, I hope and he said this in self

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Speaker 1: so I can say it. He's like, I hope the

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Speaker 1: next time I'm on with you guys, I'm not live

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Speaker 1: via skype from a prison cell. Well he's literally and

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Speaker 1: and you know, I was like, you know, what's the

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Speaker 1: response that we've gotten from that episode? And he was like, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, my lawyer called me and he was like

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Speaker 1: shut your mouth, stop talking on podcasts and all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: So I'm thankful that he's willing to come on with

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Speaker 1: On that note, about that specific subject, I saw that

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Speaker 1: the French have filed something with the International Criminal Courts

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Speaker 1: to charge Australians who have been fighting in Yemen with

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Speaker 1: the Emiratis UM. And one of them is the guy

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Speaker 1: I mentioned in my article about Yemen, uh my kind

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Speaker 1: Marsh at least he's mentioned in the in the article

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Speaker 1: I wrote about the I s c Um that they're

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Speaker 1: they're specifically looking at all of these Australian dudes who

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Speaker 1: have gone over there to fight in Yemen um as

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Speaker 1: contractors or they've been they second to themselves into the

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Speaker 1: Emirati military UM. So it's gonna be interesting to see

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Speaker 1: how that plays out. And do we have any idea

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Speaker 1: what the punishment is going to be for these guys.

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Speaker 1: We don't even know if it's going to go to trial.

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Speaker 1: And then also forgive my ignorance on this one, you know,

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Speaker 1: del his explanation was, these are allies of ours? Are

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Speaker 1: they allies of Australia? I mean they're part of notionally

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Speaker 1: or I guess part of the international coal edition against Icens.

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Speaker 1: Is that it? Yeah, but I mean I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to hold up in court. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well we'll see. I mean, I'm I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 1: more articles on that. But once again, the Vet Ride

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Speaker 1: is being held this coming Sunday. If you're listening, you know,

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Speaker 1: I know people listen weeks later, but you're listening this

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Speaker 1: week November eleven, nine am to eleven am at Emmett

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Speaker 1: Looney's two ten West fifty Street the right. The broadcast

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Speaker 1: is one to four pm. The ride is rallying up

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Speaker 1: at from nine eleven. Kickstands up and then they hit

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Speaker 1: I eighty West three in the Lincoln Tunnel. Yeah, because

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Speaker 1: actually I'm thinking Elis probably isn't even open at nine,

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Speaker 1: so when should people start getting their noon? Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: eleven o'clock they opened for lunch. And if you're the

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Speaker 1: unlucky guy that I am, before you've an eat breakfast,

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Speaker 1: Jim West makes you do two double shots of Jamison

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Speaker 1: whiskey on an empty stomach and then you have to

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Speaker 1: go on the air. I've never seen Jim drink hard

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Speaker 1: before he made me do it. I'll probably be there again.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's around, So anything else that you want

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Speaker 1: to get to before we wrap something, all right, Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you and thanks for coming in as always. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I always appreciate seeing you. It's it's so funny in that, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, for the audience that doesn't know me, You

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Speaker 1: Mike been spent pretty much five hours a day with

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Speaker 1: each other for a good I'm trying to think how long,

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Speaker 1: six years or so, and uh, I mean, it's just

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Speaker 1: it's been a different dynamic in my life. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna lie. Remember he was a college kid, a girl.

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Speaker 1: That's true. I met you while I was in college

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Speaker 1: before the election was really old, and you basically breastfed

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Speaker 1: this kid, Andrew. You suckled him from I mean, I've

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Speaker 1: said it before and I definitely don't mind saying it again.

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01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 1: When when I was in college, I was you know,

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01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 1: taking radio class and stuff and driving around the parking

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Speaker 1: lot having to go to um, you know class, and

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Speaker 1: I would have Andrew shown before I ever met him,

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Speaker 1: and you know, knew him personally. And I remember like

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Speaker 1: showing up late for class because I was too captivated

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01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 1: by what he was talking about. It's true. I got

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Speaker 1: and then when John Mullen who works at w R

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Speaker 1: h U. He was like, we have, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: two guys coming for the election I covered. He was

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01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 1: like Alex Bennett in this cow Guys something cow like.

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01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:35,679
Speaker 1: Andrew woke out and he was like yeah and and

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01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 1: so I was excited to meet you. And then from there,

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01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 1: like it's just one of those interesting things. Man. I

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01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 1: was working at Serious because I was interning at Fangoria originally,

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01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 1: but like, your show was a show I really wanted

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01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 1: to work on, and I made it happen. And I

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01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 1: think it just is one of those things if you

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01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 1: really work hard, it's something you really want to make

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01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 1: something happen, you can make it happen. Like working for you,

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01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 1: getting to do stuff on air with you there was

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01:16:58,040 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 1: totally a dream for me. And we get to still

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01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 1: hang out to have you on UM. The website is

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01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 1: welcome Majarity dot com at WelCom and check out the

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Speaker 1: CRTV show. I haven't I'll be honest. I see the

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01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 1: quips that you post on Twitter. I see a lot

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01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 1: of the stuff that you do of what is it

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01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 1: like twenty questions or thirty questions? Nineteen questions were so hip?

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Speaker 1: We do nineteen and it was, you know, it was

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Speaker 1: a way I am not somebody in this business that's

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Speaker 1: so threatened by people trying to do what I do

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01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 1: because you know, it's weird. I remember being the new guy,

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01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 1: and I remember one of my first attempts at getting

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01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 1: into radio out of college. I went to my home

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Speaker 1: radio station, w b A B out in Long Island,

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01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 1: and I was sure, you know, I had been on

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Speaker 1: this fifty thousand watch station in Florida while I was

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01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 1: in college, you know, not college radio, real radio. And

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01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 1: I went in the hand in my demo tape and

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01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 1: I the woman took it from me, and I could

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01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 1: hear the ping of the garbage can before I even

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01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 1: got out the door. Like I I heard the ping

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01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:58,640
Speaker 1: of the studio the like you know, hitting the you know,

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01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 1: the old cassettes, and the I heard it hit the

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01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 1: garbage can before I even walked out the door. And

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Speaker 1: you know, when I was an intern, even before that,

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01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:08,719
Speaker 1: I remember saying, if I ever get anywhere in this business,

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01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 1: I'm never going to treat people around me like I'm

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01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 1: being treated right now. And that person and I work

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01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 1: together and we've made peace over that, and he's a

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01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:19,680
Speaker 1: nice guy now. But he was in a tough position then. Um.

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01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 1: So you know, when it comes to making opportunities for

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01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 1: other people, one of the things I want to do.

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01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 1: A lot of the people at CRTV or brand new

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01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 1: at this and I thought, why not, you know, when

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01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 1: their guests introduced them to when you know, to people

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01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 1: that know me better, and you know, kind of give

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01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 1: the back story on them and get to know them

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01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 1: a little bit better, because you know, look, this business

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01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 1: is it's full of egos. There are people that are

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01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 1: threatened by people trying to come up in the business,

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01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 1: even though they came up in the business themselves. They

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01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 1: feel they need to pull the ladder up. Um. I'm

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Speaker 1: not one of those people. So if I can help

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Speaker 1: any of the careers of the younger people trying to

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Speaker 1: do what I was doing fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years ago,

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Speaker 1: I'm all about that. And that first job that those

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01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 1: kids have working for you has such a big impression

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Speaker 1: on them for the rest of their No. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about some of the younger personalities coming on

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01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 1: my show as a guest, and then I go, we

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01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 1: have a second segment we do called nineteen Questions, and

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01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 1: we just kind of you know, I asked them, you

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01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 1: know a series of you've done some of them with

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01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 1: some high profile people. Um, but we we really really

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01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 1: designed it more to get to know some of the

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Speaker 1: some of the younger people. I mean, Den he has

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01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 1: done it. You know some of the people that you

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01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 1: know from from Fox or formerly. So one of them

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01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:33,679
Speaker 1: was I don't remember that his name, but he kind

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01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 1: of became famous on YouTube and I guess now he's

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01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 1: on CRTV. He's like a big crowter, No, not crowder.

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01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:41,680
Speaker 1: He's kind of seems like a military type dude. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Graham Allen and Graham Allen, Graham Allen. Yeah,

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01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 1: he started he started ranting on YouTube and they gave

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Speaker 1: him a show. Um, but what is his backer? To

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01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 1: see a military guy? Yeah, army. Um, I don't know

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Speaker 1: all about his his background, but I know he was

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Speaker 1: in the army and I know he deployed. But but

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Speaker 1: just to the to the business end of it, not

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01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 1: that I'm I don't know how many budding radio or

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01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 1: podcasters you have listening that you know this business. You

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01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 1: you've worked at Serious x M, you you've worked in

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01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 1: around terrestrial people. You know that there's a very it's

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01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 1: a very guarded business um. There it is hard to

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01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 1: find people that are encouraging of of others, especially young

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Speaker 1: people trying to break in. There is a certain level

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Speaker 1: of feeling. And look, don't get me wrong, there are

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Speaker 1: times I feel that way, you know, but I feel like,

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Speaker 1: how my God is you know, is the world changing

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Speaker 1: in my being left behind? Is? You know? Who's all

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01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 1: this new crop of people? But I don't think it

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01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:37,839
Speaker 1: gets you anywhere to be a hindrance to someone else's career.

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01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 1: You know, if you can help them, I think it's

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Speaker 1: a good thing. Well. The difference to me now with

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01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 1: podcasting is the fact that you don't need that personal

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01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 1: like give you the approval. You're not working for a

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01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 1: big company, and there are people who come out of

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01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 1: nowhere and make an audience for themselves and including I'm

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01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 1: forgetting his name you no, no, no, I'm talking. I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about the guy that you had, the army guy Graham.

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Speaker 1: Yeah Graham, But he he didn't have He wasn't working

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01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 1: for a company. He just was ranting on Facebook, right YouTube. Yeah,

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01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 1: So all the world has changed, and it definitely has.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I do think there's something to be said

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01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 1: for like learning your craft a little and working for

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01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:19,599
Speaker 1: a bigger company, but I mean podcasting YouTube and it's

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01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 1: it has definitely changed the game. I remember I I

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Speaker 1: you know, I remember Tommy Larn like before she was

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01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 1: Tommy Larn emailing us for like you to come on

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01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 1: and Brandon to come on. And she was doing it

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01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:32,600
Speaker 1: like a tiny little studio. And now here's here's the

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Speaker 1: day about this. You could put the smartest thing on YouTube, right,

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01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 1: you could sit down if you're a hot chicken. You know,

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01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 1: my my wife is all into this stuff called bar

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01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 1: class now and and and you know, because you know,

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01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 1: she searches out, you know, some of these bar moves

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01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 1: and and things. There are some odd things that have

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01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 1: come up my YouTube feed. I'm like, what is this

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01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 1: thing called a bikini hall? And it's like, how does

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Speaker 1: this girl who's literally just in her bedroom trying on

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01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 1: bathing suits and giving reviews of them getting two million views?

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01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 1: Whereas like, you know, you can have the smartest person

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01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 1: sit down and explain you know, the the the you know,

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01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 1: the origins of the universes, and they get like three

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01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:15,639
Speaker 1: thousand views. So you are up against that if you're

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01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 1: trying to stick your claim in the world of YouTube

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01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 1: or or Facebook lives or podcasting. Very true, very true.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, great to do this as always, man,

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01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 1: and uh wrapping things up here. Check out dot com

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01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 1: for speed. Yeah, like, guys, who lost that love and feeling?

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Speaker 1: We we originally us we originally we're just using the

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Speaker 1: top gun theme. And I remember being like Brandon, we're

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01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 1: gonna get flagged. We like, we need to just get

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01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 1: rid of this. So John Burns b y r n

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01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 1: e S, it's all gonn play volleyball without our shirts gun.

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01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 1: I was like, just give me something that's pretty much

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01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 1: the top gun theme but different. So that's what this is.

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Speaker 1: All right, Thanks as always, guys, Thanks and you appreciate it. Man.

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