1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: Ron an Indian. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 2: Order repair is like cheap underword. You never know what 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 2: it's going to creep up on you. And the problem 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: with order repair is you've got to be ever digilant 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: and aware. You can't fool around. There's no margin of error, 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 2: there's no assumption, there's no Hey, we're gonna be okay, man, 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: that's how. 8 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 3: That's seven. 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 4: Said. 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 2: But you see so cool the car Doctor. 11 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 5: When I pick it for code, there's no more code, 12 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 5: but there's a permanent code to P zero four four 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 5: to two permanent. 14 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 2: Did they that monitor run? I think it's been at 15 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 2: least five hundred. Mom, Nope, don't be driving dot long. 16 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: You're you're assuming and your emotional brother. 17 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 3: Welcome to the radio home of ron Ananian, the Car Doctor. 18 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the 19 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 3: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 20 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 3: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 21 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 3: the phone and call in. 22 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: The garage doors are opening, but I am here to 23 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: take your calls at eight five five five six ninety 24 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 2: nine hundred and now pee. 25 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 3: Running. 26 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: Hey, we've got an awful lot to talk about this 27 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: hour and this hour, next hour, this weekend here on 28 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: the Car Doctor, there's there's an awful lot going on. 29 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: The CDK hack. Are you aware of the CDK hack? 30 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: The Honda dealers got hacked this week. You know, it 31 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: affected us personally in the shop. We couldn't buy parts 32 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: for Hondas this week out of the dealer. They couldn't 33 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: even give us an estimate of when car system was 34 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 2: going to be back up and they could get parts. 35 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: So I want to talk about that this weekend. I 36 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 2: also want to talk a little bit about have you 37 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 2: ever noticed oil in the windows? You know, you stop 38 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: and get gas and you see oil stacked up in 39 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: the window of the gas station or the service station, 40 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it. Do you ever wonder 41 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: about that oil? 42 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 5: I do. 43 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: I've got some comments about it. I want to talk 44 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: a little bit about that, but I thought i'd start 45 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: here before we turn on the phones. We had a 46 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen Toyota Camri and I want to show you 47 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: the severity of proper repair, and you know the importance. 48 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: I mean, everybody says, yeah, I want my car fixed, right, 49 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 2: but you know, to go to that to go to 50 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: that limit, to go to that extreme isn't really an extreme, 51 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: it's just it's just doing it correctly. We had a 52 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen camera that the local trans shop brought over 53 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: to us, and they had waited four months to get 54 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: this replacement transmission out of Toyota. It's not something they 55 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: build in house. It's it's something that they're just going 56 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: to put a factory or reman unit in and I 57 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: see a lot of trans shops doing that. Now. You know, 58 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 2: transmissions have gotten to the point of complication and expense 59 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 2: to build them in the field. Is it's impractical, It's 60 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: it's not a reasonably economically doable method any longer. There's 61 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: an awful lot of parts that are being updated and supplemented, 62 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: and some of the hard parts are very expensive, and 63 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: what do you know, what do you need? What's the 64 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: time frame? What's the downtime? But they waited four months 65 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: for this trans regardless, and they couldn't source parts anywhere 66 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 2: else and they were forced to wait four months for 67 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,119 Speaker 2: this trans And this is what Toyota dealers are telling 68 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: us and reporting to us that yeah, there's just there's 69 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: a lack of certain transmissions for certain models. And this 70 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: was a twenty eighteen camera and it was affected. So 71 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: you know, you wait four months to get a transmission. 72 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: I guess it doesn't matter whether it's four months, four hours, 73 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: or four weeks. It's got to be right, but four 74 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: months kind of puts the pressure on you. It's it's 75 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: got to be exact. There's no oops, all right? Oops 76 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: is a very bad word? Oops? Is is oops? A 77 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: four letter word? 78 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 5: Oh? 79 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: Zerops? I guess it is a four letter word. I 80 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: like that. You never want to hear your mechanic got 81 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: a four letter word, especially oops? All right. You probably 82 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: never want to hear that when you're being operated on 83 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: in the surgical table, either if it's a local anesthetic. Oops. 84 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: What does the doctor mean if he says that? So 85 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: after install the trans shop knew that they had to 86 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: do compensation values. A compensation value think of it as 87 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: you've replaced a computer part, but the computer can't see 88 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 2: it. It doesn't know the physical dimensions. It doesn't know how big, 89 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: you know, if it's a two by four. It doesn't 90 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: know if it's a two by four or one by six, 91 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: a five by three. It doesn't know the physical dimensions 92 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: or the internal workings of what's been replaced. So they 93 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: have to put in compensation values, and that baselines the transmission. 94 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: So the computer can then learn all right and establish adaptives, 95 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: meaning it can compensate and make that transmission with its 96 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: internal production tolerances act the same in every vehicle. And 97 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: that's what happens in a lot of vehicles today, right, 98 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: That's what adaptive values are all about. So in the 99 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 2: case of this twenty eighteen camera, on the side of 100 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: the transmission, there's a label. And I always look at 101 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 2: these labels and I laugh, Right, I can't understand because 102 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: you go to a salvage yard, if you're lucky enough 103 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: to still have one in your neighborhood, because to me, 104 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 2: a trip to the salvage yard is that's better than 105 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 2: date night at the movies. Right, And you ever go 106 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 2: to what I call them what they are called, go 107 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: to a junk yard, a scrap yard, salvage yard, whatever 108 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: words you want to call it. To me, their junk yards, 109 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 2: not junk And that label is still intact. How is it? 110 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 2: The label can be sitting out in the weather for 111 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 2: seven years and you can still read, you know, the 112 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: numbers on it. It's it's but but yet you can't 113 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: go into the supermarket, and the stamp that put the 114 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: price on it three days ago is illegible because the 115 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: ink is dried up and disappeared. I don't understand how 116 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 2: some of these things happen. It's crazy. So there's a 117 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 2: series of numbers in any event on the side of 118 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: this trans and their compensation values, and they have to 119 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 2: be entered into the trans controller. Here's the catch. The 120 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 2: trans shop didn't have the scan tool that would do it. 121 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 2: And they've got two. I've got nine. I went through 122 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 2: all of mine. None of mine would do it. They 123 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: tried to do it. They told you they were doing it. 124 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 2: They said they did it, but they didn't do it 125 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: because when you went back and looked at it, it 126 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: didn't appear. It wasn't there. So I had a once again, Opus, 127 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: OPA's IVS to the rescue. I had to call up Opus. 128 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: And what Opus does is it's it's really kind of neat. 129 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: It's it's you know, it's it's like a field trip 130 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: to the museum when you were when you were junior 131 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 2: in high school. Right, It's like a day off. So 132 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: you get a half hour off, you call in. I 133 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: dialed into OPUS. I requested a programming session they dialed 134 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 2: into the tool and what they can do is my tool, 135 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 2: My Opus scan tool is plugged into the vehicle. They 136 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: installed Toyota factory software, same software as the dealer. So 137 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: now I'm looking at Toyota scan tool. That's what I'm seeing. 138 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: And they were able to install the compensation values then 139 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 2: go back and verify them, which they did, which it 140 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: did and it worked. You know what. This is what 141 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 2: the business and this is what the industry, and this 142 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 2: is what we as a motoring society are facing technology, 143 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 2: right because every trans is different. And if we didn't 144 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: have guys like Marlon over at Opus to do this, 145 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: if we didn't have an Opus to do this, I'm 146 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 2: not sure how cars would get fixed. Because the issue 147 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 2: is not every repair shop. It's not a question of 148 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 2: affording it is, but it isn't. Not every repair shop 149 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 2: can afford a factory scan tool because there's a there's 150 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: a big expense, all right. And every scan tool has 151 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: its weakness. Every scan tool has its achilles heel. Every 152 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: scan tool doesn't work on every car. It just doesn't, 153 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: no matter what the manufacturer tells you, all right. And 154 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: there's a reason why I have so many aftermarket scan tools, 155 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: because each one has its strength and each one has 156 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 2: its weaknesses, and knowing where those are is is key. 157 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: But the opus sort of levels the field. All right, Now, 158 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: understand there there are things about Opus that you just 159 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: absolutely flat out have to have. But if I want 160 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 2: to just get quick, down and dirty information, I just 161 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: want to scan something for codes, I'm grabbing my simple 162 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: OBD two scanner. And that's just a diagnostic procedure. That's 163 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: how you that's how you formulate, right, that's you know 164 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: which tool do I want to go to? But if 165 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 2: you're a smaller shop or you're you're just saying, hey, 166 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: what do I need to compensate for this? I mean, 167 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: the trans shop is thinking about an opus now, and 168 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 2: I understand that because they see such a variety of cars, 169 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 2: and you know, they're they're tired of being boxed into 170 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: a corner. And you know that's what's gonna happen. You're 171 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 2: going to see technology push this industry into where we're 172 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: relying on outside sources, because that to have to have 173 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: Toyota factory software, to have Honda factory software, to have 174 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: Ford factory software gets expensive. And here's the catch. Okay, 175 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 2: unless you're trained in each manufacturer's method of software operation. 176 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 2: I think it's a huge learning curve. I think it's 177 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 2: it's a huge mountain that you can't ever possibly get 178 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: to the top of because it's like having nine scan tools. 179 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: I'm better with some than I am with others because 180 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 2: I use them more often. And then when I finally 181 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: get around to using those ones that I don't use 182 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 2: on a regular basis, but I've done my software updates, 183 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 2: something changed in them, and you know, I have to 184 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 2: look in different places is to find what I'm looking for. 185 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 2: Technology is great, all right, it really is. It's it's 186 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 2: going to be our undoing though. It's going to level 187 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: the field. It's going to come and, you know, flatten 188 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 2: out that mountain that we're trying to climb, and it's 189 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: it's going to be really interesting where the next four 190 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: or five years go. Because I can tell you this, 191 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: You're going to see cars now. My prediction is you're 192 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: going to see cars over the next four to five years. 193 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 2: There's gonna be less hardware changes. Cars are going to 194 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 2: become less hardware more software, all right. They're going to 195 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 2: be like the Voyager spacecraft right Voyager which was launched 196 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 2: Voyager was lost and the launched in the late seventies. 197 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 2: It's still going out in space. If I remember reading 198 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: my news from a couple of years back. They're still 199 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 2: able to make software changes to it. They're still able 200 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: to communicate with it. Fifty some odd it's sixty some 201 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: odd years later, and it's because they planned on software updates. 202 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 2: The boy these guys were smart, right. Hopefully maybe some 203 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: of them come over to cars, because cars really are 204 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: rocket science now. But my point becomes, you're going to 205 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 2: see cars become more and more software driven rather than 206 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: hardware driven. And you better have a good scan tool, 207 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: you better have a relationship, or you better have an 208 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 2: Opus IVS in your corner, because otherwise you're not fixing anything. 209 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 2: I'm running any in the car Doctor. We'll be right 210 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: back to open up the phones. After this. Don't go away. 211 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 4: I'm gone time. 212 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 2: Ride it on the wall so you don't forget to 213 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 2: call for car advice. 214 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: Done right? 215 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 2: Eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 216 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: Now back to Rod. Hey, let's wander over to Iowa 217 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 2: and talk to Brad. Brad, Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir, 218 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: How can I help? 219 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 5: Thanks? 220 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 6: Ron? 221 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 7: Will Hey? 222 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,599 Speaker 6: I don't know if it was last week or the 223 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 6: week before you spoke of an ir imaging camera and 224 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 6: I we have a very limited experience with that. I've 225 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 6: got a business and my insurance person was through one 226 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 6: time given an inspection, and she had one of these 227 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 6: and looked at all of our circuit breaker boxes and 228 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 6: I thought, you know what, that's a heck of a 229 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 6: good idea. So I started researching it at the time, 230 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 6: and I couldn't find anything I was really happy with 231 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 6: without spending big money. Now I understand they have come 232 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 6: down in price, but when you mentioned that, it kind 233 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 6: of lit a light bulb off in my brain again 234 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 6: and I thought, you know what, I really should get 235 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 6: one of those, because I can see that that's a 236 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 6: very valuable tool, especially for underhood looking for things with 237 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 6: the saw systems and things like that, cylinders not fire 238 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 6: and properly. What do you recommend? 239 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 2: Well, we have two, all right. We have the snap 240 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 2: on version, which is about eighteen hundred dollars. It's big bucks. Yeah, 241 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 2: and then the one that I prefer is the Launch. 242 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: We have a Launch two oh two. I believe it's 243 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: it two o two or TI two o two, but 244 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 2: it's on their website it's about half the price. The 245 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 2: thing I like. The thing I liked about the Launch 246 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: more so than the snap On is it's easier to use. 247 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: It's an easier interface, and I realized, it's a thermal imager, 248 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: how hard could it be. But snap On kind of 249 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: they kind of junk it up. For lack of a 250 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 2: better way to put it, it's a little bit too 251 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: much in terms of some of the things that you're 252 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: trying to do that they you know, I don't like 253 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 2: the way it interfaces with their website where Launch stores 254 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 2: their pictures right on the tool and it's easy to 255 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 2: go through and delete and you know, retrieve and so on. 256 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 2: I've seen the Launch online anywhere from six to eight 257 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 2: hundred bucks, you know. But it's a it's a nice tool, 258 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: and it gives you a good image. Now keep in 259 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 2: mind that's different too. Then I also see people using 260 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 2: thermal not thermal imagers, but thermal tempt guns, which is 261 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: just that just shows you that, you know, digital display 262 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 2: eighty five degrees, two hundred degrees, et cetera. You know 263 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 2: you're looking for an imager. You know, you know what 264 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 2: hooks you on a thermal imager? 265 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 6: Bread, Yeah, go ahead, I've got the handguns with it 266 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 6: to show the temperature. You know, you kind of have 267 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 6: limited success. I want to see a picture, so I 268 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 6: up that that one header pipe is not the same 269 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 6: temperature that the other. 270 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 2: You know, right, And you know what hooks you on 271 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: a thermile You know what hooks you on a thermal imager? 272 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: What hooks you on a thermal imager. And the reason 273 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 2: you use it is the first time you get a 274 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: car that's not that's got a charging system problem, and 275 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 2: it's got an erratic charging system. The voltage is good, 276 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 2: but yet in your gut you think it's an alternator, 277 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: and then you take the thermal imager and you shine 278 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 2: it at the alternator and the alternator's four hundred degrees. Well, okay, 279 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 2: that's a problem, you know, yeah, it just it just 280 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 2: kind of yeah, it just kind of opens your eyes. 281 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 2: The neat thing about a thermal imager is you're always 282 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: learning with it because there's always something different about the 283 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 2: tool that in the sense of you always find an 284 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: application for it, you always find a use for it. 285 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: You're always using it for something you didn't think you 286 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 2: would use it for, and you go, wow, you know, 287 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: plus you can. 288 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, you can look around your windows to see 289 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 6: if you have any leakage, you know, yep, yeah, I 290 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 6: mean it just yeah, But the problem was, you know, 291 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 6: back then, it was like there were so many Chinese 292 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 6: toys and stuff like that that it just you didn't know. 293 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 6: You didn't want to go and plunk down a few 294 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 6: hundred bucks and find out that the thing had poor 295 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 6: resolution or wasn't trustworthy, you know, And yeah, I would. 296 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 2: Well, I believe you can buy the launch version. Can 297 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: you buy the launch version on Amazon? You might be 298 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: able to buy it on Amazon, or I'm sure you 299 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: can get it from an online tool supplier with a 300 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: return policy. So I don't think you're gonna need it, 301 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: but I think there's ways around that. But yeah, I'm 302 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: like you too. I want to see a tool in 303 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 2: my hand. I want to play with it a little 304 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: bit and you know, get comfortable with it. To me, 305 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: that's that's all about. When you're buying a tool like this, 306 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: and it's not the expense, it will at work and 307 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: do the job it's intended to do, so you're on 308 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 2: the right path, CAD exactly. 309 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 6: I mean, can you zoom in like on electrical boxes 310 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 6: and stuff like that with this will at endpoint a small, 311 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 6: very small area. 312 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: You're going to hold the tool closer, all right, you 313 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 2: know it has a thirty two foot range. Okay, but 314 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 2: you know you're gonna you're gonna find ways to make 315 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 2: that tool work that you didn't really realize you had 316 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 2: or needed to. You know, all of a sudden, it's 317 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: gonna all of a sudden, it's gonna open your eyes. 318 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: And that's what we like about a thermal imager. Plus, 319 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 2: it surprises people when I tell them we're trying to 320 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 2: diagnose a misfire and we walk out. I walk outside 321 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 2: with a thermal imager to go. I think it's on 322 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: number one or else you want to know, Uh, you know, 323 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: it surprises people. That's like when that's like when somebody 324 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: comes to the shop and we've been doing this for 325 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 2: a long time now, the tire pressure lights on or 326 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 2: they think they're they think they've got a tire that's 327 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: lower than the others. We don't drag an arrows outside anymore. 328 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 2: We drag a TPMs tool outside and you know, we 329 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: start reading the sensors. We go around all four sensors 330 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 2: and we go yeah, thirty two thirty two, thirty two 331 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: twenty five. That one's low, but it hasn't turned the 332 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: light on yet, you're right, And they look at us like, 333 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 2: how do you know that technology? You know? 334 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 6: Listen, pretty cool? So with me, I've got old vintage cars, 335 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 6: you know, right, I got some course of older cars 336 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 6: so that none of that stuff works. 337 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: On, right, But I get it. Yeah, so I get it. 338 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 2: It's you know, I complain about technology. I love technology 339 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 2: and I hate technology all at the same time. It's 340 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: just that I have to deal with at twenty four seven, 341 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 2: three sixty five, and that's where it gets to be 342 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 2: a headache. So but uh, you know, embrace what you can, 343 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: use what you can. 344 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 6: All right, All right, well, listen, I tell people I said, 345 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 6: you got to listen to this guy on the radio. Man, 346 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 6: he's forgotten more than most people ever know about stuff. 347 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 6: Can people call in with codes and he tells them 348 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 6: right off the top of his head what they are. 349 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 6: You know, I mean, it's pretty amazing, you do. I 350 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 6: hack of a good job. 351 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: You never want to go to dinner with me because 352 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: all of a sudden things just come out of my 353 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: head that I remember from twenty years ago, and people 354 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 2: look at me like, what's wrong? 355 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 7: With him. So but I'll tell you, well, you know 356 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 7: what I've said, in all honesty, Ron, what I've said 357 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 7: is the biggest cruel cruelty of humanity as we take 358 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 7: to the grave so much not college, that we don't 359 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 7: even know all the stuff we know. 360 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 6: I mean, it's just all the little details of everything 361 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 6: we've ever done. And there's no way to reclaim that, 362 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 6: you know, except if you write books or something videos. 363 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 6: But you can only do so much. 364 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: And you know what, Brad, I was fortunate because and 365 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: it's funny, this just came up this past week. I 366 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 2: came across a situation where someone recalled my old high 367 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 2: school geometry teacher, mister McLaughlin. And it turns out he's 368 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 2: he's he belongs to the gym that this fella I 369 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: was talking to. We were talking, I said, oh, that's 370 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 2: mister McLachlin. He goes you know him, I said, yeah, 371 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: tenth grade geometry. We found out that I had a 372 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 2: photographic memory because I was the only kid in the 373 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 2: entire class I could memorize every geometric formula and spit 374 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 2: him back at any given time. And they started, you know, 375 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 2: little did I know that that was my photographic memory 376 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: and that was my gift at the time until years 377 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,959 Speaker 2: later when I started working on cars and I applied 378 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 2: it there. So to mister McLaughlin, thanks for helping develop 379 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 2: a better me. I'm Ron and Andy in the Cardock Brad. 380 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 2: I want to say thank you. I appreciate the call 381 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: and the compliments. I'll return right after this. Don't go anywhere, 382 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: welcome back. We're un naing the car Doctor here. 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Sid Welcome to the car doctor, sir. 409 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 2: How can I help? 410 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 5: Yes, sir. So we talked first out of March about 411 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,719 Speaker 5: consumption on my twenty one f one fifty five Turbo, 412 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 5: and uh, you wanted me to check back and and 413 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 5: uh the deal on it was it was from new 414 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,719 Speaker 5: was using a court every two thousand. It ended up 415 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 5: using the more as it went along, and uh, I 416 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 5: kept asking the dealer what about this, or Ford says 417 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 5: that's normal. And I finally got somebody's attention that I 418 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 5: don't know, forty eight thousand miles and they just started 419 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 5: a consumption test, having me come in every thousand miles 420 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 5: for them to check your level, and every two thousand 421 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 5: miles they added a court or more, and so where 422 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 5: two thousand miles in they ford insisted on putting on 423 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 5: new cats because I was getting peel four twenties and 424 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 5: four pounds all the time, and I held them. I 425 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 5: tried to get them to hold off because well I 426 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 5: won new set of casts. But anyway to get a 427 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 5: sticker in April, I had to let them put a ball. 428 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 5: And again we're still getting we weren't getting any codes anymore, 429 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 5: but they were using more and more oil. So at 430 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 5: fifty five thousand miles they wanted they wanted to have 431 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 5: it for a couple of weeks so they could check 432 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,239 Speaker 5: it out and see what was going on. So they 433 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 5: gave me a new truck for a Lona. And after 434 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 5: the boroscope and everything else, they determined the excess cabin 435 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 5: on the pistons sealing the walls and scratched, and the 436 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 5: intake bell seals are leaking, and they put in a 437 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 5: long block, so which had I've only had it two 438 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 5: three days and it seems to me fine. 439 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 2: Rights, it's kind of it's kind of sad when you 440 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 2: spend all that money on a vehicle and it takes 441 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 2: fifty five almost sixty thousand miles to get it fixed. 442 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 5: Right, Yes, oh yeah, and yeah, I mean now it's 443 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 5: probably on me. I found the service, right. Most of 444 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 5: them gush, but they don't have much mechanical experience, right, 445 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 5: and they try to make life, their own lives easier. 446 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 5: Because one of the guys he did a lot of this. 447 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 5: This is there's a lot of paperwork involved you and 448 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 5: and uh, never mind what the text had to check out. 449 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 5: So yes it is, and I hope this works out. 450 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 5: It The only thing that bothers me about the whole 451 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 5: thing I'm changing. The motive is they changed. I mean 452 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 5: they swapped everything over, even the water pump, you know, 453 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 5: I mean I would have gladly paid for a new 454 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 5: water pump. Sure, you know, there's never an easier time 455 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 5: to put one on. Oh this was this is also 456 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 5: a body off swap. They took the cab off. 457 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, did they have to? Kind of kind of scary, 458 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: isn't it. Yeah, it's it's it's mind body well. 459 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 5: It is. But when you look at everything in there and. 460 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 2: You understand why what. 461 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 5: What kind of damage will they do to funds? Well, 462 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 5: they're bending over them. 463 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: Well a few days but. 464 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: But you know, but you know what said they can't. 465 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 2: It's easier to get the engine and getting access to 466 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 2: everything with the body off. What I want to know 467 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 2: is the question I always ask is anytime I see 468 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 2: that whenever four does it? And I've seen it on 469 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 2: I've seen it on some gms. I want to know 470 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 2: what happens when that vehicle has two hundred thousand miles 471 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: on it and those bolts are rusted and they snap 472 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 2: and they break or they won't come out. Does that 473 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 2: mean we're never putting engines in anything? Once they get 474 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 2: past a certain way, we're just going to throw the 475 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: vehicle away. 476 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 5: As you know, we are a throwaway society. 477 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, more so than ever. But you know what, and 478 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 2: I'll say it like this, for your f one fifty, 479 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 2: it's it's it's a big deal, but it's not a 480 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 2: big deal. You know what else they have to take 481 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 2: the bodies off the frames to work on the engine 482 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 2: or repair the engine, or replace the engine with ambulances, 483 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: fire trucks, you know, utility vehicles, right, So you know 484 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 2: it's it's do you know what it takes to get 485 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 2: the body off the frame of an ambulance and all 486 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 2: the safety and emergency equipment that has to be disconnected. 487 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 2: My understanding is it's three days just to get the 488 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: body off the frame to disconnect every med. Yeah, and 489 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 2: then the amount of real estate in the shop that's 490 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 2: that's tied up in terms of you know, you need 491 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 2: a bay for the body that I'm sure the body 492 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 2: stays on a lift, all right, And then you need 493 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 2: a bay to roll the frame in so you can 494 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 2: work on whatever it is you're trying to work on. 495 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 2: Then you need a beta. You know, where do you 496 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 2: put the engine and all the parts that needs a bay? 497 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 2: You need three bays for one vehicle. And then if 498 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 2: you can't get parts that those three bays are now dead. 499 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely no. It's this. This staw me 500 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 5: was probably the best solution for a bad situation, but 501 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,719 Speaker 5: an awful lot of stuff got bolted and unbolted and 502 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 5: plugged in and unplugged, and who knows but well. 503 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 2: And I always, I always, I always get concerned. I'm 504 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 2: not knocking the Ford dealer, I'm not knocking the texts 505 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 2: that are out there. You know, I've seen stupidity, and 506 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: I've seen excellence. But what my concern is, you know 507 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 2: what governs that and what will what could be affected 508 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 2: in twenty thousand miles. It might run, it might run 509 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: sweet like ice cream for the next two hundred thousand, 510 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 2: and then strange things might happen. At least when you 511 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 2: get something assembled out of the factory, there's a there's 512 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 2: I think there's a bit more consistency there, you know. 513 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 2: So that's no matter, right, you know, and and you 514 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 2: know what, I got to tell you something right now, 515 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 2: the hardest thing to fix on that truck is your You, 516 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: the owner, your mind. If that truck gets a flat 517 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 2: tire two weeks from now, you're going to be annoyed, right, 518 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 2: You're gonna think, You're gonna think it's just a bad vehicle. 519 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 2: And that's that's the whole emotional part of it. 520 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 5: This thing has been an exercise. They replaced the matter 521 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 5: at twenty six thousand miles. I had four recalls, never 522 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 5: mind all my visits for the oil conception. So a 523 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 5: couple of times I've told them, what trolls, You got 524 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 5: to get new magazines because I've worn yours all out. 525 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 5: The dealers, good, good, so whatever. 526 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 2: No, the dealers, I think I think a lot of 527 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 2: the dealers really do a great job, and I think 528 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 2: they're good. I think with any car, Ford, GM, Chrysler, Jeep, 529 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 2: any of them, you run into the culture of repair 530 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 2: that that that falls downhill from the top. It's the 531 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 2: way corporate thinks. And I think what you saw as 532 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 2: an example of how Ford corporate thinks. And I've I've 533 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 2: got my own comments and thoughts about that, and I 534 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 2: can tell you stories from now to the end of 535 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 2: the show, and I won't because I've had I've had 536 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 2: experiences with Ford Corporate. So said, good luck to you. 537 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 2: Let us know if you need anything here, and keep 538 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 2: keep keep in touch. You're a very valuable part of 539 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 2: the Car Doctor family is as everybody else. I'm running 540 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 2: any in the Car Doctor. I'll be back right after this. 541 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 2: Don't go away, Welcome back Running in the Card Doctor. 542 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 2: Let's get over to Brian in Pennsylvania. Brian, Oh, three 543 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 2: Explorer and some full codes. What's going on here? Kittle? 544 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: Hey, Ron, I got a two thousand and three four 545 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: Explorer sports track with I think it's po or P 546 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 1: twenty one ninety seven. It came on after I put 547 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: valve cover gas Cotna okay, and had after ever since 548 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 1: I put the valve cover gas Cotonic that they were leaking, 549 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: and now it runs off that idol. 550 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 2: So it's ever since. Yep, you broke it. Congratulations. 551 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: Ye well, it's got two hundred and sixty five thousand miles. 552 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 1: It's lucky that I mean that far. 553 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, but yeah, but it was it was okay 554 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 2: prior to this, right. 555 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 556 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 2: So my first question is what kind of scan tool 557 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 2: do you have? 558 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: I just had the one that just read the code, 559 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: but I got a friend of mine that's got one 560 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: with all you know, with all the information where you 561 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: can you can do live data. 562 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. So twenty one ninety seven is an indication of 563 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 2: a fault with upstream O two sensors. I believe right side, 564 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 2: right or left, but doesn't matter because we're going to 565 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 2: test them both. So or I want you to go 566 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: back and look. Do you remember which side of the 567 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 2: engine had the valve cover. I had the PCV. 568 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: Valve in driver or driver side. 569 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 2: Driverside HASCV Right, Okay, what's what's the elbow look like? 570 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 2: It's not broken? 571 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 5: Is it? 572 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 4: No? 573 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: Because actually I replaced the line. Did the valve cover. 574 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 2: Okay, anything, you know, if you go through it, we're 575 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 2: looking for a vacuum line that's off or something disconnected. 576 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 2: You know, because the coincidence here is you had the 577 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 2: valve covers off, you had an awful lot you had 578 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 2: to take apart an awful lot. And I'm curious what 579 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 2: I would have you do with this with the scan 580 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 2: tool is go look at fuel trim. Is fuel trim 581 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: creeping up there? And twenty one ninety seven was the 582 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: first fault to set. That's my ye. 583 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: I have to look because the only the only thing 584 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: I noticed when I put it all back together, I 585 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: didn't see any didn't feel any. I looked for vacuum 586 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: leaks and hoses and stuff, didn't see anything. The only 587 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: thing I looked. If you're sitting standing in the front 588 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: of the truck and you're looking down sort of right 589 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: where the looks like it's a metal tube. It looks 590 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: like it goes down to the two center and there's 591 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: a pinhole at the end of it. 592 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 2: Okay, you got a pencil, and you got a pencil 593 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 2: and paper, yes, okay, yeah, I want you to get 594 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 2: your I want you to get your friend's scan tool. 595 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 2: I want you to warm the engine up. There's a 596 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 2: four lea or correct, Yeah, all right, I want you 597 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 2: to warm the engine up. I want you to go 598 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 2: in under ob D two. Just I don't need your 599 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 2: make model info here. I just want OBD two. I 600 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 2: want you to go look at mass airflow grams per 601 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 2: second and it'll say that. I'll say m af gps 602 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 2: or grams per second pends, I'll scan tool lays it out. 603 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 2: But we're just looking at grahams per second. This is 604 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 2: a four liter engine warmed up at idle. We would 605 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 2: expect to see somewhere between three point eight and four 606 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 2: point two grams per second of airflow. All right, we're 607 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 2: worth in a ten percent spread here. Okay, you know 608 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 2: if you saw four or five, that doesn't bother me. 609 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 2: I think you're going to see something different. I don't 610 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 2: think you're going to see that. I want you to 611 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 2: go look at fuel trim for both banks, short term 612 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 2: and long term. All right, just go look at a 613 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: warmed up engine. Do you know what fuel trim is? 614 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 2: Do you understand the concept? Ryan? 615 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? 616 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 2: Okay, so you know, if this was here, I am 617 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 2: back to the high school geometry again. If this was geometry, 618 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 2: and we're talking about number lines, all right, or you 619 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 2: know those those scales. Zero is a balanced fuel mixture. 620 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 2: If I'm adding or positive numbers, I'm adding fuel. If 621 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 2: I'm negative negative numbers, I'm taking fuel away. Where are you? 622 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 2: You know, on a healthy running engine, long term fuel 623 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,479 Speaker 2: trim it'll be in the three four percent range, and 624 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 2: then short term might get as high as fifteen to eighteen, 625 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 2: and it varies engine by engine. The code for most 626 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 2: fuel trim faults sets when fuel trim meets or exceeds 627 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 2: a combined value of twenty five percent. So if combined 628 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 2: value of fuel trim for one bank is twenty four percent, 629 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 2: the code's not going to set correctly correct, but you're 630 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 2: gonna but you're going to see if you add the 631 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: two numbers up they come to twenty four. That's too much, 632 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 2: all right. You know at idle, going down the road, 633 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 2: you'll see fifteen percent. Short term at idle, you're probably 634 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 2: going to see three to five, five to six on 635 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 2: a healthy engine. All right, but see what the numbers are, 636 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 2: all right. Last, take a look at the two sensors, 637 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 2: and we're most concerned with the upstream. The O two 638 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 2: sensors that are before the cat. Do you have any 639 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 2: propane or any way to artificially enrich the fuel mixture? 640 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 5: Yeah? 641 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: Actually I had that thing that you I made, one 642 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: of those things that you always talk about with propane 643 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: and the break line. 644 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, shoot a little propane in the motor. Watch 645 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 2: the two. That two should hit nine tenths of a vault. 646 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 2: If it doesn't, why not? What's affecting it? I don't think. 647 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 2: I don't think it's necessarily a bad O two, not 648 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 2: from changing valve covers. All right. I think you're going 649 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 2: to prove that the O two's work. But I think 650 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:46,959 Speaker 2: if you took it for a ride, I don't think 651 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 2: you're going to hit ninetents of a vault or sitting 652 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 2: there at idle, you won't see ninetents of a vault 653 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 2: because I think you've got a vacuum leak, you've got 654 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,719 Speaker 2: some sort of a fuel mixture issue. Okay, all right, 655 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 2: and that's where we're going, all right, kiddo. 656 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: I appreciate it, very well, very welcome. All right. 657 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 2: Well, yes, sir, By the way, if anybody wants to 658 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 2: see that propane and Richmond tool work, they can get 659 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 2: out on our YouTube channel, we just posted a video 660 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 2: showing a no start with a Chevy van and how 661 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 2: to diagnose using that propane in Richmond tool. So run 662 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 2: an Indie in the Car doctor on YouTube. Let's pull over, 663 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 2: take a pause. I'm running Anie in the Car Doctor. 664 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 2: I'll be back right after this. Welcome back. Yeah, we 665 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 2: just put up this week today. I think it's a 666 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 2: matter of fact on YouTube if you go search, I 667 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 2: think it's probably one of the first videos. But we 668 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 2: had an five Chevy van. I hate vans for this 669 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 2: because you know what, there's nothing worse than a big 670 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 2: van getting dropped off at the shop and you get 671 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 2: it into position. Now you have to push it inside 672 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 2: or get it into position. And they're big, and they're heavy, 673 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 2: and you need four thousand guys to move one vehicle. 674 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 2: It's just a pain in the neck. So you know, 675 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 2: you get to the middle of your diagnosis, which isn't 676 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 2: easy to do. Write a van in particular, it's okay, 677 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 2: let's check it for spark. The engine cover comes off. 678 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 2: Half the front of the car, half to the front 679 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 2: of the truck comes off. It's pain in the neck. 680 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 2: Does it sound good? Yeah, cranked good. It sounded normal, 681 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,720 Speaker 2: I said to Danny, I said, go get the propane. 682 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 2: We got the propane, We shot propane down, its throat 683 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,720 Speaker 2: fired right up. I said, look, this is a fuel problem. 684 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 2: We knew where we were and we could talk to 685 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 2: the customer at that point. So there's a great video 686 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 2: showing that process for those that want to see it. 687 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, Rich, my video editor, caught 688 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 2: me up. He goes, God, he goes, I want to 689 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 2: go buy a bottle of propane and start cars without gasoline. 690 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 2: He said, this is great. So it does work, and 691 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 2: we just show you the procedure and how to do it. 692 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 2: So something else to look forward to. Well, another hour 693 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,479 Speaker 2: flew by. What else can I tell you. I'm happy 694 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 2: to have been here for you. I hope you got 695 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 2: something out of today's show. It's always a pleasure. Keep 696 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 2: in mind. If you're up on YouTube, please subscribe. If 697 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 2: you're out on Facebook, please like, and by all means 698 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 2: visit us on Instagram. At Ron and Inian is our 699 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 2: handling call sign. As they say, so the next time. 700 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 2: Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. I'll see you, h