1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: You know your house smells, don't get mad. Don't get mad. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: My house smells too. I'm not I'm not indicting you. 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure you keep a clean home, but just time 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: means you're going to acquire smells. Whether those are cooking 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: smells that get in your paint, your carpet, maybe their 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: animals smells. Maybe you're a smoker, or someone else was 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: just living create smells. I didn't realize that my home 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: had a smell to it until I got my first 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: Eden Pure Thunderstorm, the greatest air purifier I've ever owned 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: in my life. This thing. I had it plugged in 11 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: for two hours. I came back in the room and 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: my air smells so clean. I now owned three of them. 13 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: I'm not making that up. This thing has absolutely changed 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: me on top of what it's done from my allergies. 15 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: Go get one, get two, you like me, and get three. 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: Go to Eden Pure deals dot com. Make sure you 17 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: use the promo code Jesse that gets you ten bucks 18 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: off and free shipping Eden your deals dot com promo 19 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: code Jesse. Your holster is way more important than you 20 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: think it is. It's just way more important than you 21 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: think it is. What look and I get that the 22 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: holsters not the sexy part of carrying firearms. All right, 23 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: you want to talk about your weapon and your ammunition. 24 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 1: You want to talk about your safety training. I want 25 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: to talk about how you did at the range. I'll 26 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: look at my groups. I was doing these failure drills 27 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: today and all that stuff is really important. I mean, 28 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: really really important. I'm not discounting that. But I've known 29 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: so many people who do all those things. They take 30 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: all the necessary steps, and then they carry with a 31 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: holster they bought from a big box hunting store that 32 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: was made a thousand at a time. Please don't put 33 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: your life in one of those holsters. You need to 34 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: trust Northwest Retention Systems because it's all custom made gear. 35 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: It's the only thing I carry around NW Retention dot Com. 36 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: That's NW Retention dot Com used to promo code Jesse 37 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: gets you ten percent off. You remember that story from 38 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: the Bible. No, I'm not preaching at you tonight. Don't worry. 39 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: I'm not qualified to do so. You'll never get that 40 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: from me. But everybody knows this story from the Bible, 41 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: regardless of your belief system. The Apostle Paul Apostle Paul's 42 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: in trouble, he gets rested, he's getting ready to get whipped, 43 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: and Paul says, are you really gonna whip a Roman citizen? 44 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: And the reaction from all the local government officials are 45 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: they freaked right? Oh my gosh, no, if someone get 46 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:48,839 Speaker 1: this man up here? Why do you ever think about that? Why? Well, 47 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. Because it was something the Empire 48 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: of Rome, the greatest empire of all time. It was 49 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: something they placed a priority on. If you were a 50 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: Roman citizen, when you traveled abroad, you had better be 51 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: treated with respect. What would happen if you weren't treated 52 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: with respect? Rome didn't play games with that. Go ahead, 53 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: whip a Roman citizen without our permission. We will raise 54 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: your entire city to the ground. That's how Rome would 55 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: do it. Now, why is it because the officials in 56 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: Rome had some deep love for Apostle Paul or any 57 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: of their other citizens style they don't care the truth 58 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: they killed him in the end. They didn't care. It's 59 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: not about Paul or the other Roman citizens. It's about 60 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: the future. It's always about the future when you take 61 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: direct measures against people who attack your nation. It's not 62 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: about revenge. It's not it's about the future. When I 63 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: talk to you tonight, we're gonna we have Look, we 64 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: have survival experts on night. It's gonna be a great show. 65 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: But when I talk to you tonight about some pretty 66 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: hard things, I've got some hard things to tell you, 67 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: and I say things I want done. I want you 68 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: to understand this. It's not because I'm vengeful. It's because 69 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: I'm worried about the protection of the future of this nation. 70 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: The future of this nation. Pause for a moment while 71 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: we talk here, Pause for a moment and think about this. 72 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: How much time do you spend I don't even want 73 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: to say spend online? How much time do you spend 74 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: interacting with the Internet. The reason I say it that 75 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: way is I mean it goes way beyond you know, 76 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: browsing Facebook on your phone. How much time do you 77 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: spend watching streaming TV? Your kids ever watch YouTube? At work? 78 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: You're not online at work? Right? There's no internet at 79 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: your office? Is it starting to hit you? It is 80 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: an internet world now. But what we don't do, what 81 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: you and I don't do, and I'm just as guilty 82 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: of this, is we don't think to ourselves, Wow, my 83 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: whole life's really online. I'm doing social media online, I'm 84 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: working online. When I get home, I have some downtime, 85 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: I'm streaming a movie on some streaming service. It's online online, mine. 86 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: We don't think to ourselves. I wonder if the critical 87 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: infrastructure that makes a nation go. I wonder if they're 88 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: online too. But here's the thing. They are they all are. 89 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: You drove in a car, that fuel, it's all online. 90 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: That food, when you're picking out bread and hot dogs 91 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: at the grocery store, that's all online. Every part of 92 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: our nation is run online. So what do we do 93 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: as a nation when bad people, criminals who are very 94 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: much online. Now, what do we do when they choose 95 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: to set their sights on us? Everybody remembers this recent 96 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: story about Colonial pipeline. Colonial pipeline, this major major fuel 97 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: are we back east? Hackers go after it and shut 98 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: it down? Okay, that's a big deal, right, that's a 99 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: problem Russian based hackers, hackers, I should point out. But 100 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: that's a big deal. All right, let's get things figured out. 101 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: We got some gas lines, we'll get it worked out. 102 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: But let's make sure we have a plan in place 103 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: going forward. Well, what was the plan going forward? Well? 104 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: Colonial Pipeline paid five million dollars in ransom so the 105 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: hackers would allow them to turn the power back home. 106 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: And as you know, what do I love most in 107 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: the world being able to say I told you so, 108 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: and I'm right. I came on the show that day 109 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: when I heard they had paid that ransom. I came 110 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: on that day and I said to you, this is 111 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: a lot bigger deal than you think it is, because 112 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: it wasn't about Colonial Pipeline. It wasn't even about those 113 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: specific hackers. It was about the message paying that ransom 114 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: sent the rest of the world. I told you on 115 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: that day, it's about to be open season for hackers 116 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: on the United States of America because we just told 117 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: them all. We just told all of them, Wow, go ahead, 118 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: attack our critical infrastructure. Will make you rich if you 119 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: do it. What should our response have been, Look, this 120 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: may be too direct for you. I don't care. It's 121 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: not your mommy's show, it's your daddy's show. We should 122 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: have immediately arrested everybody at Colonial Pipeline who agreed to 123 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: pay five million dollars. They should all be awaiting trial 124 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: right now, and we should have sent some very dangerous 125 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: men to go knock on the door of those hackers 126 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: and make sure they never hack anything else again. That's 127 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: not because I'm some murderous, savage monster who wants somebody 128 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: to die. It's not even about the hackers. It's not 129 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: even about colonial pipeline. It's about the next thing, and 130 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: the next thing, and the next thing and the next thing. 131 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: Because now we have a huge open for business sign 132 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: on the United States of America. How right was I? Well, 133 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. Here's a headline, ransomware disrupts meat plants 134 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: and the latest attack on critical US businesses. The meat 135 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: plants were attacked too. That's twenty percent of the nation's 136 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: beef supply. Do you ever buy beef? That going to 137 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: be important to you at all? You think we should 138 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: pay another ransom to somebody next time they hack us? Oh, 139 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: these were Russian hackers as well. Oh another headline, Massachusetts 140 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: steamship authority hit by cyber attack. Not only are they 141 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: attacking us, we're paying ransoms and telling them to do 142 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: it again. But it goes way beyond beef prices and oil. 143 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: The entire nation is online. The nation is online. This 144 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: would be like in ancient times building a beautiful city 145 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: and having a wall around it at all. That's what 146 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: we're doing when we pay these things. And I will 147 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: tell you I experienced it very briefly, very very briefly. 148 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: It was a couple of months ago. We had a 149 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: big freeze in Houston. I don't know. I might have 150 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 1: been three or four months ago. I don't do dates, 151 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 1: but we had a big freeze in Houston. It was 152 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: actually a hard freeze. It never freeze this here ready 153 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: to Houston, Texas said subtropical. It froze over of course, 154 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: lost power, lost water for a couple of days. I 155 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: was fine, don't worry about me. I was fine. I've 156 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: got some preparations for such a thing. But people were 157 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: not fine. People died. How bad was it? Well, it 158 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: was two days, two days, and people died. How would 159 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: the city have done if it was a week? How 160 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: about a month? What are you prepared for? Are you ready? 161 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: Because this is what it looks like. I got a 162 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: brief glimpse of it. But I'm just telling you. Are 163 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: you ready for a month without access to drinking water 164 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: from your fountain? Are you ready? I didn't have clean 165 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: drinking water in my fountain. I was fine. Are you fine? 166 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: Are you fine if the gas station shuts down. Our 167 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: gas station shut down because we lost power. They didn't 168 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: have power, they couldn't do anything about it. Are you 169 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: ready for no clean water? Ready for no gas? But Jesse, 170 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: I'll be fine. I'll go get some food. Really, I 171 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: thought the same thing. I drove in the parking lot 172 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: of my grocery store. It was dark and the doors 173 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: were locked because they not only lost power, their emergency 174 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: supply ran out, they didn't have clean water. They shut 175 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: down two Okay, well, all these places are online. What 176 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 1: are we going to do when the power grid goes down? 177 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: Are we ready? Are we preparing for it? As a nation? 178 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: I mean, that is their one job they're supposed to do. 179 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 1: Right as the government, they're supposed to protect the nation. 180 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: For the most part, they should just be leaving us alone. 181 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: But they're supposed to be protecting us. Well, here's your 182 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: president of the United States, your commander in chief. Here's 183 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: what he's digging into. According to the Intelligence Community, terrorism 184 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: for white supremacy is the most lethal threat to the 185 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: homeland today. Not isis not a Kainda white supremacist headline, 186 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 1: Climate change and extremism among the military threats targeted and 187 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: the DoD that's Department of Defense budget request. Oh you 188 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: remember the army video we played you don't worry. I'm 189 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: not gonna play it again. We'll play it in the 190 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: background for you here the woke army ads. Remember the 191 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: little lesbian girl or no, the little girl. Parents were 192 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: the lesbians and my mom, my mom and my mom 193 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: were so important and I was is out marching and 194 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: protesting for equality. In the meantime, they're hacking. They're going 195 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: after your power, they're going after your water, they're going 196 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: after your food. This is not If it seems like 197 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: I'm upset, it's because I am. But it's not at you. 198 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: I'm upset because the one thing government is supposed to 199 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: do they have no interest in doing at all. Time 200 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: and time again, these people have been asked, what are 201 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: you doing about it? Joe Biden has been asked. Jennifer 202 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 1: Saki has been asked. They've been asked time and again. 203 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: We are being attacked, we have these ransomware attacks. What 204 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: are you going to do? And you know the answer. 205 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: They can't even fake like they care. You know the 206 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: answer we get time and time again from all of them. Well, 207 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: it's a private sector issue. I mean, these are private companies. 208 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not really worried about it's a private company. 209 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: Let me ask you something, and I really look, I'll 210 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: wrap this up with this. Let me ask you a 211 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: really hard question. Are you one hundred percent convinced the 212 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: President of the United States of America and the people 213 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: around him even want to protect America? Are you sure 214 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: they do? And before you say, ah, Jesse, that's crazy, 215 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 1: of course they do. Really, are you sure you understand 216 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: the mentality of the communist? Do you think the communist 217 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: sits back and looks at critical attacks against America, the 218 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 1: country he hates, and says to himself, I should put 219 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: a stop to those. Or do you think the communist 220 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: sits back and looks at those attacks and says to himself, nice, 221 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: we might have an opportunity here. I know my answer 222 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: all that may have made you uncomfortable, but I'm right. 223 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: We have great guests. We have a great special for 224 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: you to night. Buckle up, It's going to be a 225 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: fun one. We'll be back on the Jordan Harbinger Show. 226 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: You'll hear amazing stories from people that have lived them, 227 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: from spies to CEOs, even an undercover agent who infiltrated 228 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: the Gambino crime family. You're about to hear a preview 229 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: of The Jordan Harbinger Show with Jack Garcia, who did 230 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: just that. My career was twenty four out of twenty 231 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: six years was solely dedicated working on the cover. I 232 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: walk in. I'm in the bar. How there's a bar made? 233 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: Dare good looking young lady? See serving me? Joey, Hey, 234 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: what would you like? I usually my frank was give 235 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: me a kettle, one martini, three olives, class of water 236 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: on the side. I finished the drink. The guys come in. 237 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go go in my pocket, take out the 238 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: big wad of money. Hey, am, I give her one 239 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: hundred dollars. If you're with the mob, I say, hey, Jordan, 240 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: you're on record with us. That means we protect you. 241 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: Nobody could shake you down. We could shake you down. Oh, 242 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: you're on record with us. For more on how Jack 243 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: became so trusted in the highest levels of the Gambino organization, 244 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: check out episode three ninety two of The Jordan Harbinger Show. 245 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: Newton Group Transfer. They are here to help you if 246 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: you're stuck in a timeshare. These stories from people who 247 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: have these time shares and can't get out of them. 248 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: They're shocking these timeshare companies, not all of them, but 249 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: so many. They get their hooks into you and you 250 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: can't give them up. You can't give them up or 251 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: they'll they'll do things like they charge you thousands of dollars. 252 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: One girl she got past her time share when her 253 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: mother passed away. She gets passed the time share, doesn't 254 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: want the time share, doesn't use the time share. They 255 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: tell her she can get out of it for four 256 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. 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Karafano, vice President for National 266 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: Security and Foreign Policy at the Heritage Foundation. Colonel, let's 267 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: get let's get this out of the way right off 268 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: the bat Okay, oil supply hacked, meat supply hacked. How 269 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: vulnerable are we? Well, you know, I think part of 270 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: this is kind of similar to the mass shooting stories. 271 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: I mean, we've had shootings in the United States, but 272 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: now whenever there's a shooting, you know, the press jumps 273 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: on this like this has never happened before. The reality 274 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: is hacking is part of the modern environment of doing business. 275 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: Ransomware attacks and me going on for a really long time. 276 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: So part of it you have to ask the question 277 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: is how much of this is all of a sudden 278 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: we've kind of waken up that this is kind of 279 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: a constant feature in our in our life, and how 280 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: much of this is a really a larging emerging threat. 281 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: And I mean the answer is there's probably a little 282 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: bit of both. This has been going on, you know, 283 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:21,959 Speaker 1: But I gotta say, you know, we have a new 284 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 1: administration and everybody, not just other countries, transnational criminals, gangs, 285 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: they all want to test in the resolve. And I 286 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: think one of the challenges that we've seen coming out 287 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: of the box in this first hundred days is we 288 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 1: haven't had an administration or president who stood up and 289 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: said you know what, people that do that stuff in America, 290 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: We're coming after you. We're gonna find you, we're gonna 291 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: get you, We're going to hound you at the end 292 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: of your days. And I think that kind of demonstrative 293 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: attitude for the administration might might send a better stronger 294 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: message than what we currently see, which is we have 295 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: these hacks and the administration tries to downplay it like 296 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: it's it's not our fault, it's not our problem, we 297 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: don't really want to talk about that. It might make 298 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: us you know, it's almost kind of like the Benghazi strategy, 299 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: where where something bad happens and it's well, how can 300 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: I get this off the plate and make it not 301 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: my problem and focus on the things I want to 302 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: focus on. But I think it does send the wrong 303 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: message to bad people around the world about whether America is, 304 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: you know, open for business or an open target. Well, Colonel, 305 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: they paid the ransom. That's what floors of me. I understand. 306 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: It wasn't the government, but the oil pipeline gets hacked 307 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: and they paid a ransom, like gigantic ransom and cryptocurrency. 308 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I don't want to speak out of 309 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: turney here, you're the expert expert, I'm not that that 310 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: should be illegal. That invited more attacks than it not. Well, 311 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: you know, I you know, I've got to say, back 312 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,239 Speaker 1: in the nineteen thirties, kidnapping became all the rage. This 313 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: was a way for criminals to make money. And literally 314 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: they're a rash of kidnappings across the country. Even people 315 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: have probably heard of Lindburgh's baby. But this was this 316 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: just a way of doing business. The US government didn't 317 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: respond by saying, well, let's just pay all the kidnappers. 318 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,959 Speaker 1: They're responded by building out the FBI and under federal law, 319 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: enforcing capabilities and going after kidnappers and hitting them with 320 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: some very very severe penalties. And I think we probably 321 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: need more of that. We probably need more on the 322 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: deterrent end of demonstrating to these guys, if you come 323 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: after us, we can find you and get you and 324 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: make you pay a really heavy price. So it doesn't 325 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: sound to me like you're that worried about ransomware attacks. 326 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: Sounds to me just paraphrasing. Feel free to correct me. Yeah, 327 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna happen, they're gonna hurt, but we're not talking 328 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: about kneecapping America for any significant period of time. Correct 329 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: about getting that? Well, Look, I mean the reality is is, 330 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: you know, cyber is an environment that we live in. 331 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: You can be invulnerable one day and then could be 332 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: completely compromised the next. So I don't I think we 333 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: think about this is this is a problem to be solved. 334 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: This is an environment to live in, and you know, 335 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: just like viruses or you know, they're constantly coming back, 336 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: you have to build up your capabilities to deal with that, 337 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: and they have to be full spectrum. I mean, you 338 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: have vaccines, but you also have you know, prophylactics and 339 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: other ways, you know, treatments, right, you want to build 340 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,719 Speaker 1: out your arsenal so you're ahead of the bad guys. 341 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: That I think is more important. I do think that 342 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: these send the messages that we're weak on the deterrent end. 343 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: You know, we've got capabilities, we do things on the 344 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: back end, and we can even find cryptocurrency and where 345 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: it went and take that money back if we need 346 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 1: to in some cases. But we need to send a 347 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: strong message on the front end that America is not 348 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 1: an easy target for this and and I'm not sure 349 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: this administration really has that on a front burner. Issue. 350 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: To me, there's a whole range of issues here, whether 351 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: it's border security, you're dealing with Russia or China or Iran, 352 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: where they just want to take the easy out, push 353 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: stuff off and focus on the political agenda, which for 354 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 1: them is all encompassing, whether it's federal takeover the election 355 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: system or in these big infrastructure bills and these other things. 356 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: About the actual physical security in the United States almost 357 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: seem to be a distraction. I just think that sends 358 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: the wrong message. Look, we have all the same capabilities 359 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: that we had one hundred days ago, but people need 360 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: to see that defending America is a top priority from 361 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: this administration. And it's not a partisan comment. I mean, 362 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: it's just the reality of how the world works. You know, 363 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: when all these cities wanted to defund the police, what happened. 364 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: The crime rate went up. If the US government doesn't 365 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: send a strong signal that it's out to defend Americans, 366 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: what happens people come after us more. Colonel what that part? 367 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought it up, because that part confuses 368 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: me a lot. I understand that the right and the 369 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: left have nothing in common anymore. I get that, But 370 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: why would the Biden administration not focus on this. I mean, 371 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 1: you can say they're dismissing it, but this is the 372 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: kind of stuff they can kneecap his political agenda. Let's 373 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: say they are all about politics all the time, which 374 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: they clearly are. You're not getting anything done if the 375 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: American people keep paying four dollars a gallon for gas 376 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: and beef prices go up twenty percent every other week 377 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: because people are going to throw you out of office. Well, 378 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: you know, I think it's they see it as a 379 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: distraction from the agenda. Their agenda is pushing forward on 380 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: their getting their major achievements and putting those in place, 381 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: and these other things are a distraction, and by addressing 382 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: these other things they actually look you weak. Well, these 383 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: are problems that we can address, we can't solve. I mean, 384 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: look at the order. It's absolutely mushrooming out of control, 385 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: and yet they actually refuse to address that. I think 386 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: a big part of this goes is to the nature 387 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: of governance in this administration. We have a small cadree 388 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: of former Obama officials who are in the White House 389 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: who are deeply influential and driving policy. They were not 390 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: elected by anybody, They're not accountable to anybody. They could 391 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: care less if Biden ever wins another election. They could 392 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: care less about Kamila Harris's political future. They are myopically 393 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 1: focused on pushing this agenda and they see everything else 394 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: as a distraction. And you say, well, but shouldn't we 395 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: care about inflation, shouldn't we care about the Russians? Shouldn't 396 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: we care about cyber colonels. Well, of course we should. 397 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: But they don't. And if they don't, they have the 398 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: power to drive the federal government not to treat these 399 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: things as priorities. Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln sat in 400 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: front of China. People who watch my show's seen this 401 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: clip before. I want to play you a clip here, 402 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: colonel and get your reaction. So for China, it was 403 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: necessary that we make our position clearo meyoin sonimensum silli 404 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: adeways faunsummatangwa. So let me say here that in front 405 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: of the Chinese side, the United States does not have 406 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: the qualification to say that it wants to speak to 407 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: China a position of strength. Can we speak to China 408 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: from a position of strength? Look, I'm not a partisan guy. 409 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: I don't even belong to a political party. And when 410 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: I say this assessment, it's not meant to be a 411 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: political job. But I think the reality is is the 412 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: three key cabinet secretaries are responsible for protecting US Secretary 413 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: of Homeland Security, Secretary Defense, and Secretary of State. These 414 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: are empty suits. These are empty suits who will say 415 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: anything to just satisfy the agenda that they've been given 416 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: by the administration. They're not independent thinkers, they're not putting 417 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: US interests first. They're just reacting on their orders out 418 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: of the of the Obama administration with Biden administration. And 419 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: what's interesting about all three of these individuals is these 420 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: are all people with a great deal of experience in 421 00:24:55,080 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: their fields. They have long resumes, they know the difference 422 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: between right and wrong, and yet they are driving policies 423 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: which were completely inept because that's what they're told to do. 424 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: And you know, when you say they're MPT seats, I 425 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: don't mean it in a bajarative way. I'm just trying 426 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: to think of an accurate descriptor. But how you could 427 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: stand up and not speak back to China, not be 428 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: worried about the wocus in the military, watch a completely 429 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: undefended border be overrun and pretend like, yeah, these are 430 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: our policies and they're all just fine. It just strange credulity. 431 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: I don't know how else to describe it. Assuming politically, 432 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: I understand, I understand you're not a political guy. But 433 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: assuming politically, but Joe Biden can't all of a sudden 434 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: crack down on the border. I think that's a pretty 435 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: safe assumption. How does this end? How does four years 436 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: of this end? Because I mean we use words like 437 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: unsustainable all the time. I mean, they're breaking local communities 438 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: with this border overrun. How does this end? Journal Well, again, 439 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: it's not a political assessment. It's just the assessment of 440 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 1: how politics will impact on policy. I think it's a race. 441 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: It's a race to get some very fundamental, ground changing 442 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: legislation that would cement progressive control of the country forever, 443 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: whether it's taking over federal elections or these massive infrastructure 444 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: bills and putting in all kinds of progressive policies and 445 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: locking them in concrete the law, and people just getting 446 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: fed up with these guys and demanding different leadership, and 447 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: the two sides are just racing to see who gets 448 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: there first. Lieutenant Colonel, thank you so much, sir, I 449 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: appreciate you very much. Hey, thanks for having me. Doesn't 450 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: it feel like we're not working towards the same goal? Well, 451 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: let me tell you something or not. All right, we're 452 00:26:47,160 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: not done yet. We'll be back. Well, sometimes it gets 453 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: a little confusing when we talk about all this technology stuff. Right, 454 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: these people are getting hacked and these people are getting hacked. 455 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: So we're about to bring on an expert. But first 456 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: I want to remind you. I want to remind you 457 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: what the President of the United States said when foreign 458 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: hackers went after our energy sector bringing breechs on the 459 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: fact that the company get hat ransom. I have no 460 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: comment on that. Thank you. Well, that's inspiring. Joining me 461 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 1: now to talk about that in other things? Is technology 462 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: consultant Peter Philip Peter. Okay, we had an oil pipeline 463 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: getting hacked. We now have a meat packer getting hacked. 464 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: What does this even mean? By the way, for the 465 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: lay person meaning myself, what does it mean to get 466 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: hacked and screw something up? What happened at simplistic They 467 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: gained access to the systems that are in these organizations 468 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: and they took control. I mean, they became the owner 469 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: of that um. They can have access to the data 470 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: all the systems, They can control them. As you saw 471 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: with Colonial, they could shut them down if they wanted 472 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: to and UM owed it. Okay, you say gained access. 473 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: Explain that to me in a way I can understand. Sure. 474 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: So there's several different ways that can happen, but the 475 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: most common, or parably the most prevalent about of all 476 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: UM hacks are done are caused by human error. So 477 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: this is either a spearfishing attack or someone your fees 478 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: the email opens it and they launched malicious software into 479 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: the into the enterprise, or there's a vulnerability that was 480 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: never addressed on the perimeter of the security perimeter of 481 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: the of the of the organizations, or UM it's just 482 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: bad software that's never been updated or kept current. Okay, 483 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: you're telling me that we have portions of our energy 484 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: sector where somebody can just open a bad email and 485 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: it can wreck it. Aren't there aren't there firewalls for 486 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: things like that? Yeah, there is absolutely, and most organizations 487 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: have that security in place, but it's really hard to 488 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: fix the spear fishing attacks. For a human error, which 489 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: is the majority of how that occurs. Someone goes home, 490 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: takes their laptop home for the weekend, does some personal browsing, 491 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: downloads some delicious software and doesn't know about it, goes 492 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: back to work and when they jump on the network 493 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: it can gain access or you know the most common one, 494 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: which is just opening an email and getting infected. And 495 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: the older system the perimeter or edge systems, and a 496 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: lot of these organizations have not been updated. So the 497 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: core corporate software, corporate firewalls are very secure and very tight, 498 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: but a lot of the edge infrastructure is older and aging. 499 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: It hasn't been attended to as it should be. Why 500 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: several reasons. Money is probably the most prevalent one. Right, 501 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: So money is it just costs money to do this. 502 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: If the system is running and you don't feel like 503 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: you have to fix it, U why spend the money 504 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: on it? And the energy the energy sector is probably 505 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: the most egregious in this. When oil's ninety bucks of barrel, 506 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: are going to spend money and make sure everything's secure, 507 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: But when it's ten or twenty, they crank those dollars down. 508 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: And so also the ability to not find security personnel 509 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: has been cited recently as one of the most prevalent 510 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: reasons for these breaches. Because the longer organization doesn't have 511 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: a security group or a see SOO as the acronym 512 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: goes chief information security officer, then the more likely they 513 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: are to be hacked or have an attack. Okay, are 514 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: we suffering a serious deficit of these technology geniuses out there? 515 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: I would think, I mean, this is America. Everybody in 516 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: their brother has a smartphone. Everyone talks about hacking something. 517 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: Now I would think we have these people all over 518 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: the place. Yeah, you would think. I mean, if you 519 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: get colonial they had the position was open for five 520 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: months and they interviewed I think the reporting was around 521 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: thirty five people or so. But that role is there's 522 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: a deficit for that role. I mean, there are a 523 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: lot of people that do that, but they're not the 524 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: positions are being filled. Whether that's an organization choosing not 525 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: to hire or looking for the unicorn employee which they'll 526 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: never find. Just getting the role filled traumatically reduces your 527 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: plane of exposure and your likelihood of attack being successful. 528 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: How vulnerable is our government? I mean, at least please 529 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: tell me, at least our government is on top of 530 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: this stuff. So one of the things about the government 531 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: is that they don't have the most updated software. They 532 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: don't run on the most updated platforms. If you've ever 533 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: had an understanding of acurement process and how long it 534 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: takes to get software into the government, they tend to 535 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: run older systems. A matter of fact, there's a push 536 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: right now there's some bills that are being going to 537 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: be offered about increasing making the government move to the 538 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: cloud and be a more secure cloud environment. But the government, 539 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: I would not. They have really talented people that are 540 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: really really good at cyber I don't know that that's 541 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: applied to all of the government and their systems for sure. Peter, Philip, everybody, 542 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: thank you. Peter, I appreciate it. You don't have to 543 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: dip forever. You know that, Ryan, you don't have to 544 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: smoke forever. And the reason I say it like that 545 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: is I have been that guy. I've been that guy. 546 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: I dipped for so long, and what would happen is 547 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: I would decide I'm gonna quit. It's bad for me. 548 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,239 Speaker 1: I'm gonna quit. I'm a man, I don't need any help. 549 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna quit cold Turkey, and I would fail 550 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: time and time and time again. I tried things like 551 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: the patch that didn't work gum of sunflower seeds. I 552 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: tried at all. It's just a matter of finding the 553 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: right thing to help you quit. That's Jake's Mintchew. Go 554 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: put in your dip. Just make sure it's Jake's Mintchew. 555 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: It's tobacco free, it's nicotine free, it's even sugar free. 556 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: And I highly recommend just a personal choice. I highly 557 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: recommend their CBD pouches because it really helps take that 558 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: extra edge off. Get at Jake's Mint Chew dot com. 559 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: That's Jake's mint Chew dot com. Make sure you use 560 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: to promo code Jesse at check out. When you do that, 561 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: get ten percent off. Absolutely, we'll be back. If there's 562 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: anything I love more than trying to get people ready 563 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: for the things that are coming in this country, it's myself. 564 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: That's what I love the most. And so when I 565 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: saw this clip from my buddy's stew over on the 566 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: Blaze with our next guest, Spencer of Courson, I had 567 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: to play it for you before I bring him in. 568 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: Oh freaking why you do it? Sarah? Thank you? Oh? Okay, um, 569 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: can I ask this one last question? Yeah, Adam, Okay. 570 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: This one comes from Jay Kelly. The question is related 571 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: to Kelly. What is your favorite thing about Jesse Kelly. Oh, 572 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: I gotta go answer on the on the on the 573 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: h I gotta go answer this. Who that is Jesse 574 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly, you are. My favorite thing about Jesse Kelly 575 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: is how humble he is. My favorite Jesse Kelly is 576 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: the fact that Spencer does. He's got a love that 577 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: you don't know who he's. He's a fellow host. He 578 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: has a radio first and Yes, and he's on the 579 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: First as well, and so he's definitely not having me on. 580 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: He's a great follow on Twitter. Wait now, change your answer. 581 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: We'll can just do a quick edit and you could say, like, 582 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: you know, he's my favorite host to talk about security 583 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: issues or something. He's my favorite. Oh, Jesse Kelly, He's 584 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,439 Speaker 1: my favorite place to talk about security issues. Oh wow, Wow, 585 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: that's you have a book out about security. Yeah, it's 586 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: called The Safety Fact. The first guy to pre order 587 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 1: it was a verified part just from Jessica. Wow. That's incredible. 588 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: Joining me now, he was wrong. He's coming on my 589 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: show now. Joining me now is threat management expert Spencer Courson. 590 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: He's also the author of a book in all seriousness, 591 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: all joking Aside by this get yourself something to get 592 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: yourself read. The book is called The Safety Trap, a 593 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: Security experts Secrets for staying safe in a dangerous world. Spencer. 594 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: Dangerous is putting it mildly. Honestly, just from gun sales alone, 595 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: you can tell people watch the news and they're scared understandably. 596 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: So what does the security experts say about the danger 597 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 1: of this world compared to ten years ago? The difference 598 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: is we can no longer afford to live in a 599 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: world where we simply hope that nothing will happen and 600 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 1: then solely rely on the first responders to save us 601 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: once something does. We need more than ever to begin 602 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: to participate more and more in our own security, because 603 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: I think one of the things that we are going 604 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: to see is, especially as we enter into the dog 605 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 1: days of summer, is this crime raise really begin to rise. 606 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: And if we are not actively participating with our friends, 607 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: with our neighbors, with our fellow citizens, even our countrymen, 608 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: we will find ourselves in a devastating, deeprescendo that we 609 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,720 Speaker 1: will not be able to climb back out of. Spencer, 610 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 1: What does that mean getting involved with friends and neighbors, 611 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: Because the average person right now, they're watching this another. Oh, 612 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 1: it's easy for Jesse to say, It's easy for Spencer 613 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 1: to say, I'm sure he's got an arsenal at home 614 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: and all his training, I've never touched a gun. What 615 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,439 Speaker 1: do I do? What does the average person at home 616 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: do when it comes to friends and neighbors, what do 617 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: they have to do within it? Well, I think one 618 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: of the things we learned in the military is how 619 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: to recruit local assets. How you know, some way may 620 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: not see everything, but everything is seen by someone, and 621 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: especially whether it's using the next door app, or whether 622 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: it's sharing the feeds of your ring camera, or whether 623 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,919 Speaker 1: it's you know, I had someone trying to break into 624 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: my house just a couple days ago, and within hours, 625 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: our entire neighborhood was sharing the footage and not allowed 626 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 1: the cops to catch the guy within you know, ninety minutes. 627 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 1: He was half a mile down coming off of someone 628 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: else's property. But what we really want to do is 629 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: not just look out for our It's very easy when 630 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: we're coming out of this quarantine, this pandemic, to think 631 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,439 Speaker 1: of ourselves as being in bubbles. But as we get 632 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: out into the world, as our return to normalcy begins 633 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: to grow and grow some point that that also does 634 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: not accompany it with it a return to complacency where 635 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: we just assumed that, oh, look, look there hasn't been 636 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: a school shooting and over a year, and that all 637 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: of a sudden, look at what we're seeing. We need 638 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,760 Speaker 1: to recruit local assets, we need to use our environment 639 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,439 Speaker 1: to our advantage, and we want to do our part 640 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 1: to make our community safer because that collective participation will 641 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 1: really help to ensure the certainty of safety for everyone involved. 642 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: Why do you think it's going to be a rough summer. 643 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't disagree with you, but obviously the 644 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: practical things people can do we're in your book. But 645 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: why are you predicting a rough summer? Because our tolerance 646 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: threshold is at an all time low coming out of 647 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: this year long quarantine isolation pandemic. Interpersonal dynamics are a 648 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: perishable skill and we have all gotten so used to 649 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: communicating online, communicating via Slack or zoom or what have you, 650 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: that our way of communicating with one another in a 651 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: digital realm is completely different than how we would interact 652 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: with one another on a interpersonal realm. We saw that 653 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: poor six year old boy gets shot in California over 654 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 1: a week ago for the mother just simply flipping someone 655 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 1: to birds, something she's probably done a thousand times before 656 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 1: without consequence. But now with everyone's anxiety anxiousness really very 657 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: high in the threshold for that tolerance at an all 658 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: time low, the exacerbation point is at a critical tipping point. 659 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: And I really think that the heat and if there's 660 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 1: another you know, stressor put onto the environment, it can 661 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 1: really you know, it could really light that spark of 662 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 1: the powder keg that's been waiting to blow for a 663 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: long time. Spencer, I've been telling people for a long 664 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: time to get out of the cities, especially recently over 665 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: the last year year and a half. If you're able 666 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 1: to understand, not everybody's able. People have jobs and families 667 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: and things they can't leave. But I don't view the 668 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: cities as being salvageable. However, maybe I'm wrong, and there 669 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: are a lot of people still stuck there, whether they're 670 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: salvageable or not. If you're someone in a city, you're 671 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: not allowed to walk around and pack heat for the 672 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: most part, What is something someone in a city can 673 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,399 Speaker 1: practically do to make sure they're safer than they were? 674 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: The day before, not negotiate against their own instincts. I 675 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: had a friend who was sitting in I think it 676 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: was in New York. Was in New York City, was 677 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: there for work, was sitting in a hotel, was you know, 678 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: eleven o'clock in the morning, goes downstairs to have a 679 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,839 Speaker 1: coffee and a cigarette. There's another couple sitting across from her. 680 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 1: There's another lady a little bit down and this gentleman 681 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: comes downstairs that appears to be a bit dodgy and 682 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 1: is you know, fidgety, and she knows that something's not 683 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: quite right, but she doesn't want to be impolite us. 684 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 1: She's she's so concerned about coming across as you know, unpermissible, 685 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: that she kind of like looks away, and the very 686 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: next thing she knows, this gentleman has her his elbow 687 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: in her chest, he's grabbing her person, and he's running away. 688 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,800 Speaker 1: Because in that moment, she was so worried about she 689 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: was less concerned about defending herself than she was about 690 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 1: offending him. And so when we are in these environments 691 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: where we one of the things that my global experience 692 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: has proven like time and time again, is that when 693 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: we don't expect to see danger, or when we rephrase that, 694 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 1: when the warning signs of danger are always there, but 695 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 1: when we don't expect to see them, we don't look 696 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 1: for them. But like I said before, the signs are 697 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 1: always there, and staying safe is about training ourselves to 698 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,280 Speaker 1: see them. You know, we don't. I kind of equated 699 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: to sometimes feeling safe is the most dangerous thing we do, 700 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: which is pretty much the key takeaway of the book. 701 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: And that all stems from, you know, we don't stub 702 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: our toes on the things we noticed. We stub our 703 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: toes on the things we don't. But it's not like 704 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 1: that lego on the floor was you know, we hiding 705 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: and weight to ambush us. We just weren't expecting to 706 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 1: see it, so we didn't think to see it. And 707 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,800 Speaker 1: I think our everyday safety and our everyday walk, everyday 708 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: lives is going to be a very similar set of circumstance. 709 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: I might add to everybody, I don't think he'd mind. 710 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,879 Speaker 1: It's a lot easier to see the danger if you're 711 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,240 Speaker 1: not looking at your phone. Look, I'm as guilty as anybody. 712 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: I'm not pointing fingers at you. Get your nose out 713 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: of this. When you're out and about it. It can 714 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: save your life. Actually, Spencer, one final question. We had 715 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 1: a freeze down here in Houston a couple of months ago. 716 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 1: It wasn't the end of the world. Obviously, some people 717 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: lost their lives, which was sad, but it was just 718 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: the freeze. Houston's not used to it. We lost power 719 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 1: and water for a couple of days. Now I was fined. Obviously, 720 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: I've got water and I've got food, and I've got 721 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 1: all that stuff saved up. But a lot of people 722 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 1: were not really really hurt people. What's something basic people 723 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,720 Speaker 1: can do in case there's a cybersecurity attack on water 724 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: or power or something like that. What's something basic that 725 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 1: doesn't evolve building a thirty foot deep concrete bunker in 726 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: their backyard. Yeah, well we got I'm here in Austin 727 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: and we got hit just as hard. I was without 728 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 1: power for five days. So I think what everyone can 729 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,800 Speaker 1: really do is to accept that that is a realistic 730 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: risk and start putting in the practical preparations to help 731 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: mitigate those circumstances. So start small, build strong, Start with 732 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: food and water and medicine, making sure you have those 733 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: necessities on hand from their build out to fuel and power, 734 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 1: then move on to defense and readiness, and then the 735 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 1: final step would be your creature comforts. But the more 736 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 1: you start preparing today, the more prepared you will be 737 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: for a safer tomorrow. And whether that's making sure you 738 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 1: have enough food and water on hand, or having a 739 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 1: portable solar generator to help keep your phone, or a 740 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: local space heater to heat your house, those just very 741 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: practical precaution will help to ensure the certainty of safety 742 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,720 Speaker 1: for not just you, but for your family as well. Hey, Spencer, 743 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 1: course in the book is the safety trap. Spencer. I 744 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,800 Speaker 1: appreciate you, my brother. Thank you, you two sir, thank you. 745 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: I told you it was gonna be a good show. 746 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 1: We're not done yet. We'll be back. What if all 747 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: the lights go out? What if your grocery store shuts down? 748 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 1: What if the gas station up the road stops working? 749 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,839 Speaker 1: At all the things I just said to you, if 750 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 1: I had said them a month ago, unless you're super 751 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,800 Speaker 1: in the know about technology and hacking and things like that, 752 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: he probably would have rolled your eyes and said, oh, 753 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,360 Speaker 1: Jesse's a nutball. Well, in just the last few weeks, 754 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 1: we've had a major attack on our pipeline system. We 755 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 1: now have a major attack on our meat supply. Twenty 756 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 1: of the meat supply all done behind the computer, all 757 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 1: of it. We live in an online world now, where 758 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 1: everything is controlled on the internet. What I want you 759 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: to take away from tonight show is this, not that 760 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 1: you have to run and hide and whatnot. What I 761 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: want you to take away is this, You must make preparations. No, 762 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 1: I'm not telling you to go dig a bunker and 763 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: move to Zimbabwe and live off of tree bark. I'm 764 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 1: not telling you that at all. Make preparations for the 765 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 1: lights going out, for the gas station not working, for 766 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 1: the grocery store shutting down, because these are not things 767 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,479 Speaker 1: that are in some dystopian nightmare movie. These are things 768 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: that are on the horizon in an online world. When 769 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 1: some fat can sit in a Russian basement and shut 770 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 1: down America's oil supply, that's a frightening place to be. 771 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 1: That's where we are. You must make preparations, the kind 772 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 1: of preparations that might have the neighbor rolling their eyes 773 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 1: at you. Get some food, get some water, get some gasoline, 774 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 1: get some money, get some basic necessities. Look around and 775 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 1: assess your situation. Say to yourself. How long can me 776 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 1: and my family survive with no power in the house, 777 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 1: no gas station working, and no grocery store. What is 778 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: our plan? How long can we do this? That's what 779 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: I want you to take away. We are vulnerable. Well, 780 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 1: hopefully we'll deal with it, but we are vulnerable. It's 781 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 1: an online world now, all right, We'll do it again.