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Fantasy Best 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:52.640 Friends Forever m Do Do Do Do Do Do Do 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:59.040 Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Yo 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:04.800 is as love Fantasy Best Friends Forever here on the 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:10.160 Fantasy Sports Radio Network alongside Frankie Standfall, Michael Florio, I 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:16.360 am Greg Sausman. Today's a big day, frank large day. Indeed, 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:21.080 very momentous occasion. Were the reason why it is so lamentous. 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:26.040 Mike And as everybody knows about Mike, he's a pretty 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:28.440 terrible tight and drafter and we're gonna help him out. 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:31.440 And that's the moment, this occasion. Yeah, that's exactly you know, 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:34.080 we tweeted out from the Fantasy BFF account today we're 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:36.200 gonna talk about one of Mike Flora's favorite things in 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:39.120 the world. Those are tight end. He loves him, he 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:42.319 loves tight loves the tight end. The thing is, yeah, 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:44.600 Mike Flora has never been able to pick the right 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:47.000 tight end. Never Today, we will help him. We will 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:50.080 we will do just that, my Flora, are you. I'm good. 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:52.320 I'm good. Uh, I'm hoping I'm better at drafting tight 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.920 ends and you guys give me credit for but I 0:01:54.960 --> 0:02:02.000 guess we'll see. Also also, twenties seven years ago today. Yeah, 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:06.360 twenty seven years ago today, my Flora was born. I 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:11.120 read that. Shout out mikey clapping for yourself on your birthday. 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:14.600 That's awesome. Fun fact, twenty seven years ago today, I 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:18.400 was like eight minutes old right now. So there you go. Great. 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:21.959 By the way, it's your Yankee Championship. Speaking the Yankees, 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:24.079 it looks like they just acquired Jay have for what 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:27.440 uh finalist and the Yankees for two s. He's like, 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:29.600 Brandon Jury is one of the pieces. You know, the 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:35.760 other pieces were Brandon Jury. He was everyone was hyped 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:37.960 for him. He came, he got hurt, and then that 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:42.720 was it. Yeah. Anyway, so okay, late us not trade 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:46.480 when it happens. Uh yeah, Mike, how are you? How 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:48.079 are you in on this second to last day and 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:50.839 the BFF sever I mean, I'm you guys are making 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:53.000 me a little sad. I'm gonna miss you guys tremendously, 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:55.560 but but I'm I'm excited for today. It's gonna be 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:57.600 a really fun day. I think so too. I think 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:00.440 so too. On the show, Today's tight End's coming up 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:04.519 with five pm Eastern Time, live on YouTube only is 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:08.760 the return of the BFF Power Hour with Friends. Oh, 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:10.360 it's gonna be a great time. It started just the 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:13.000 three of us. We opened it up. When why did 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:14.920 we do the last one? What was the reason that 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:18.639 we did it? Because we were thirsty? I think it 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:20.800 was tow Wars weekend? Is that what it was? No, 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:24.799 I don't think so, because I didn't go. I didn't 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:28.240 Scott was here. Yeah, because I'm pretty sure you guys 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:30.120 were all going. It seems likely I would do a 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:33.440 power Hour here rather than they did. It was to 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:36.360 Wars weekend, or it was March Madness, one of the 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:40.880 same thing. Maybe it was. Maybe it was coming all right, 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.080 Well it's been a while then, it's been since March. 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:45.240 We'll make the return of The Power Hour with friends. 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:48.120 Mike Florio, Frank Staffele and I and and a whole 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:49.520 bunch of other people are gonna be here to say 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:51.920 goodbye to Mike um in a Power Hour. He will 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:54.360 be on the show tomorrow for the final time as 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:57.520 a regular host. Um. It'll be good. It'll be good. 0:03:57.560 --> 0:03:59.160 So we'll trying to get this as most as normal 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:02.080 a show as possible tomorrow. We have a lot of 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:04.600 good stuff plan including finding out you don't know the 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:07.520 Jeff Floria, but finding out who you who your pixar 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:09.240 for this year, like who your Blake Snell is for 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:11.480 football and so on and so forth. Um, we'll go 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:13.320 through your I know you don't have rankings done yet, 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:15.000 but like, I want to know who your guys are 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:19.559 this year. So we're gonna do that tomorrow on the show. Okay, cool, Sure, 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:21.720 I don't think I have my blakes now yet, but 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:23.440 I do have a lot of guys that I like, Okay, 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:26.200 so I'd like talking about them tomorrow, Okay. As well 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:31.320 as other things, Florio flag planting episode right and and 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:35.560 Floria fla Floria Flarewell as well flare Well whoa the 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:37.760 Flarewell I just saw the gift. You guys used a 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:43.200 great job. I did not use it. It was JP. 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:46.240 I haven't been able to do that in four months. 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:48.800 Do you think you ever salt pepper shake again? That 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:52.440 was in April of were really excited about and you 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:56.120 were really I was fully in and I was duped. 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:58.920 Couldn't have been more in um And that's why we 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:03.080 got used on the mic. We got he's my favorite day. 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:04.360 Here we got I want to present it to you. 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:06.520 Start to hold on. I want to the camera first. 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:09.040 Here we go, tell the camera made Mike Floria for 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:13.680 his birthday, your BFFs. I've gotten Florio a salt and 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.520 paper shaker shirt. That's amazing because we know how much 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:23.159 Mike Florio like salt me never shaker. That's amazing. Thank you, Frankie. 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:25.120 And I got you the thumbs up right last year, 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:27.159 so this goes well, you didn't we have them wet 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:30.000 a sweatshirt, that's what it was, very very nice. So 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.119 we got your a salt pepper shaker shirt. Thank you, guys. 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:34.120 I very much appreciate it. You gotta still wrap the 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:36.039 Mets even on the West coast. Mike, Oh yeah, Jake 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:37.400 was just telling me to break up with them. That's 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:40.440 just not physically potentially smart. It's it's smart, it's smart, 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:42.679 but it's not possible for me. At least, you won't 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.800 be able to physically go to games and support them anymore. 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:47.800 So that's a good thing. That's the one part of 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:51.479 your protest. Nicola actually bought me a sign. It's says 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:54.600 city Field, and it's the exact number of miles to 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:56.719 where we're going to be living, and it's like three thousand, 0:05:56.800 --> 0:06:02.760 four hundred and like nineteen. So get as far as 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:05.520 I don't think I can physically get further. All right, 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:09.520 it's get a tight ends, gentlemen. Um, So the tight 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.200 ends I'm looking for. I was looking at my rankings 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:15.480 of last year's top tight ends on my list, and 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:19.800 unbelievably enough, people still really like Jordan Read last year. 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.000 I know it's hard to imagine now, but Jordan Read 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:26.760 last year was my third ranked tight end at the 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:29.880 time they did these rankings. Number four was Jimmy Graham 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:33.120 and number five was Greg Olsen. Obviously Read Olsen what 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:38.320 over here? Um had some major, major injury issues and 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:41.640 that caused them to have really terrible years. Other tight 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:45.080 ends inside of my top ten, Tyler Eiffer, another injury disaster, 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:48.160 U and very Ibran whom again, why do we still 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:53.320 do this this year, a year where there's a lot 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:55.320 of tight ends, as I spoke about yesterday that could 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:58.640 break out. We want to tell you what tight ends 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:01.840 to avoid. So we tweeted out from Fantasy BFF Twitter account, 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:03.760 as we have in each of the last two weeks, 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:08.040 which these tight ends as the biggest bust in your choices? 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:14.840 Once again, Greg Olsen, Jimmy Graham, Delaney Walker, you're seeing 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:18.360 a trend here wat to that moment. And then Evan Ingram, 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:20.040 which I think is a really interesting one because Evan 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:23.000 Ingram is going off the board as a top five 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:25.400 tight end. Of course, the tight ends ahead of Evan 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:28.320 and Gram or Travis Kelsey, zach Ertz, Rob Gronkowski, and 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:30.040 I'd love to know both of you guys and those 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:31.400 that are listening and want to call in an eight 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.960 four four eight four three six eight seven nine if 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:37.640 they you think any of those three guys may bust 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:41.480 in team. Let's start with who I would think he 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:43.120 was the odd man out of this career, Like Olson, 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:45.680 Graham and Walker, they're all up there in age. They've 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:47.480 all been around a very long time. They've all had 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:50.920 extremely productive careers that I think they're on this list 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:52.280 because you look at them and you're like, all right, 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:54.920 maybe this is the year they fall off, right. I mean, 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:57.640 that's the thought process here is maybe this is the 0:07:57.720 --> 0:07:59.920 year that it doesn't go right. Certainly last year was 0:07:59.920 --> 0:08:02.000 like that for Olsen, not so much for Graham and Walker. 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:04.040 Graham has had his issues but scores his touchdowns. Uh 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:06.600 Lanny Walker has kind of been the same player for 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.360 the last five years. But Evan Ingram is different. Evan 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:12.520 Ingram had a phenomenal rookie year by all accounts, finished 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:15.120 the top five tight end. Now back for a year 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:17.960 two with the Giants, a year where we are used 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:21.360 to seeing tight ends breakout, used to seeing them become 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:25.480 mainstays in fantasy lineups and teams for years. But he 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:27.880 made our accountdown because of a big number, and that 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.600 was thirteen. As you told me before, Frank, thirteen drops 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:33.760 for evaning Girl last year. He's on this list because 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:37.680 of the people around him, se Kwon, Barkley, Odo Beckon Jr. 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:43.400 Sterling Shepherd. Evan Ingram's no. Best third maybe four on 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:47.440 targets on this team. But I can't believe that he's 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:51.080 not my guy to bost super talented, super young. We 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:52.720 certainly know that Pat Shermoer likes to use his tight 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:54.720 end as we saw last year with Kyle Rudolph and 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:58.560 in the past. I love Evan Ingram. Probably some bias there, Frank, 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.480 what makes you live it off and Evan Ingram? Yeah, 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:04.199 I mean it's what you mentioned about. Um, the target 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:07.600 centers just around him. So from weeks one to five 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.079 last year, he was the tight end eighteen in points 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:13.360 per game. From weeks six through seventeen, he was tight 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:16.160 end four in points per game. That is during that 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:20.199 span is when he caught five of his six six touchdowns. UM. 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:24.160 From week six to seventeen, one fifteen targets last year 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:27.040 led the Giants. That was Evan Ingraham. Um, you know 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:30.920 I'm key in on Week six on because Odell Beckham. 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:32.920 That was when Odell Beckham went out. The last game 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:38.040 he played was Week five. Then Sterling Shepherd missed Week six, seven, eleven, twelve, seventeen. 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:41.520 So six through seventeen is when Ingram had the opportunity 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:44.000 to do all of his all of this damage I'm 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.800 just worried about targets this year. It feels like you're 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:49.679 paying for the ceiling for Evan Ingram once again. You're 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:51.960 paying for him to replicate last year's stats, and I 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:54.920 just don't see a way that that's possible. Given Odell 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:57.880 Beckham is going to demand his targets share on this team, 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:01.559 Sterling Shepherd and we're forgetting sae Quon Barkley is likely 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:04.160 to catch. I'd say, you know, forty five to fifty 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.720 five receptions on this team this year, so you know 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:11.439 that's gonna be another at least seventy to eighty targets. 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:13.840 So I just don't think that there's enough here for 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:16.520 Evan Ingram. Yes, you know he might have some big weeks, 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:18.800 but I think he's gonna be inconsistent. I feel like 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:21.040 right now, for where he's going in that tight end 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:23.520 five six rains right around Greg Olson, Jimmy Graham to 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.160 Laney Walker. You're paying for him to replicate last year 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:27.840 stats and I just can't see it happening. But he 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.040 was listen, I know everything worked out for him Florial 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:32.600 last year, all O'Dell and all the other wide receivers 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:34.800 getting hurt, no running game to speak of. Certainly no 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.360 pass catching running back to speak of. But Evan Ingram 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.240 is still what twenty three years old. I mean he's 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:43.640 he's improving, like he's an improving player. I understand what 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:45.559 Frank's saying, but I don't know that the drop off 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:49.120 is coming. I don't either. I think that he is 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:52.040 second on this team in targets. Remember Sailing Shepard when 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:54.360 they when they had everyone. It was not a guy 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:56.040 that we owned in fantasy last year. He was a 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.000 guy that when everyone got hurt, I picked up off 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:01.160 waivers and it was a fun ride. But I looked 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:03.880 at Evan Ingram in the four games that he played 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:07.040 with Odell Beckham last year. During those games, he had 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:10.120 a one with eleven targets, two with seven, and one 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:12.200 game with four. So if you're telling me he's gonna 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:15.439 be seeing around seven targets a game, I'm fine with that. 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:19.240 And his per game during those four games with Odell 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.440 Beckham looked like this, seven point three targets per game, 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:25.560 three point eight receptions, thirty nine yards, and zero point 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:28.680 three touchdowns. If you extrapolate that four game span into 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:32.000 a sixteen game season, you're looking at a hundred and 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:35.800 sixteen targets, sixty reception receptions, six d and twenty four yards, 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.160 and four touchdowns. That is a step down from what 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.880 he did last year, but the targets are still there, 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:42.960 and I agree with Greggy. I think he is talented 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:48.400 and only improving as a player. So I I I 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.400 do worry with Frank and initially he was. I considered 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:53.480 Evan Ingram as my bus pick because there are a 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.559 lot of options there. But I still think it's the 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:58.800 opportunity to be the number two target getter on this team, 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.599 because yes, Saekon Bar He's gonna demand his touches, but 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:03.520 I don't think he's gonna out target Evan Ingram on 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:07.480 a week by week basis. I think Sterling Shepard is 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:09.840 the one that I worry the most about if he's 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:12.960 going to be inconsistent. There may be inconsistencies with Evan Ingram, 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:15.640 but I think eight years end, the numbers will be there. 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:17.599 I think so too. I think there's inconsistencies when it 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:19.280 comes to every tight end for the most part, like 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:21.400 outside of let's say a Gronk or a Travis Kelsey 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:24.960 or zach Ertz is now in that category. There's inconsistency 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:26.800 with everybody for weeks a week, and I think if 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:29.800 you're getting not four for thirty nine, like like Michael 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:34.199 was saying, you obviously need more touchdowns than not. Um. 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:36.920 I understand why people are worried about everything Gram. I 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:40.040 just don't think I am, and I know it sounded 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:42.080 like everything I said poop poo to Evan Ingram For 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:44.800 this year, yes, but you know, keeper dynasty long term. 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:46.839 I mean, he is a problem. You watch the way 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:48.960 he plays. He's a good route runner, has to work 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:51.080 on the hands. You mentioned the thirteen drops he had 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:54.120 last year, a fifty five percent cash rate that was 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:56.959 thirty first among all tight ends. So I worry about 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:59.200 that as well. It might have been teams double teaming him. 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.720 He he was a rookie, uh, you know, just getting 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:04.280 his feet wet in the NFL. But you know he's 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:07.720 he's fast for linebackers and he's bigger than the safety, 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:10.480 so he is a mismatched problem. With that being said, 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:12.720 I just I am worried about the targets you mentioned 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:15.240 se Kwon Barkley. It's not just targets. They didn't have 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:17.640 a workhorse running back last year like se Kwon Barkley 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:20.480 is gonna touch the ball anywhere from in my opinion, 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:23.400 twenty twenty five times a game. So that's gonna limit 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:26.960 kind of everything for you know, anyone not named Odell 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.320 Beckham on this team. So yeah, there will be some 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:31.600 big weeks. Maybe one week at Sterling Shepard as the 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:33.880 third option having a big week, maybe one week. It's 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:37.480 Evan Ingram. I'm just worried about Uh. I feel like 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:39.400 you're paying for what he did last year and I'm 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:42.400 not sure that he gets there. So for me, out 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.640 of this group, he is one that I'm more worried 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:47.600 about than the others on this list. Okay, so there 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:49.720 you go with Evan Ingram A four four, four, three, 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:51.600 six seven nine. I want to take a call from 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:56.720 season in Arizona. It's up, Caesar, are doing't gonna do? 0:13:56.760 --> 0:14:01.240 It's up? But my question is about uh, Derrick Henry. 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:09.080 Why why people not high? Two? Why are people not 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:13.240 high enough? By Florial on Derrick Henry, I think the 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:17.280 concern of Dean Lewis obviously factored in. When before they 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:19.560 got Dean Lewis, everyone was saying he's the top twelve guy. 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:22.640 But Dean Lewis performed extremely well last year. He's a 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:24.840 great pass catcher out of the backfield, So you know, 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:27.640 Derrick Henry is not going to be out there on 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.080 passing down plays. Can he be the goal line back? 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.840 Can he you know, still see the team plus carries 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:34.840 the game. Yes, So I do think he is an 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:38.000 RB two, but some of that luster obviously went away 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:40.560 when they brought in another capable running back. Yeah. To 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:43.680 answer your question season, I think in a standard Derrick Henry, 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:45.160 I'm going to have him as an RB two. As 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:47.720 of right now, I have him ranked as my RB twenty, 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:50.200 so that's kind of in the solid to low end 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.640 r B two range. I do worry about Dean Lewis. 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:54.880 I know it's a new team. We've seen running backs 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:57.920 leave the New England Patriots and not be as productive, 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:00.440 but they signed him to a solid contray act here 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.160 and he's very versatile when he's on the field. Defenses 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:05.240 don't know whether he's gonna run, whether he's going to 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:08.520 catch passes out of the backfield. Patriots used him in 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:10.320 the red zone last year and he did work there 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:13.320 as well. So I just think Derrick Henry is not 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:15.800 going to get the workload that we all thought kind 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.680 of when everything was breaking down here early in draft season. 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.400 So people are souring on Derrick Henry. But I think 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:23.320 in the standard league, you get him as your r 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:24.720 B two, I think you can do worse. So you 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:26.680 get him in that fourth round. I don't have a 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:28.920 huge problem with it. I think he's going to be 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:31.680 the goal line running back for this team. He could 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.560 teach score anywhere from like I'll say, like seven to 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:36.920 nine touchdowns. I think that's like a fair projection for 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.160 Derrick Henry this year. I have him in RB twenty one, 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:42.120 So I'm right there with you. Let's go to Bob Invermont. 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:47.200 What's going on, Bob? Hey? Are you doing Greg? Happy birthday, Mike. 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:50.800 Thank you Bob. And how you doing well? How are 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:55.120 you Bob? Greg? Yes, good, I'm doing good. Everybody's looking good. 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:59.320 I'm doing good. Greg. What about the Green Bay Packers 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:03.040 might end? Oh, Jimmy Graham, We're gonna We're gonna get 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:04.840 We're gonna get the Jimmy Graham a little bit later 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:09.800 on the show, Yeah, yeah, we're not probably talking about 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:12.040 Sandy Lewis at all. We're gonna talk about Jimy Graham. 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:19.080 Little bit later on the show today, he's not. I 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:22.720 think he's good. He's played with for a very long 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:24.920 time for like twelve years or so. Lewis is a 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:30.080 dinosaur now. Yeah, so let's talk with Jimmy Gram a 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:31.480 little later on the shift time. We we we could do 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:33.680 the Jimmy could do Jimmy Graham when we get back 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:35.480 from the break, I think it'll be a good time 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:38.160 to touch on Jimmy Graham, um, because I think it 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:41.600 was I think it was in berries, um hundred facts, calm, 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:44.200 we were really good. Couple of factors. I'll look up 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:46.080 during the break about Jimmy Graham and don't want to 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:49.080 read to you guys, which makes me kind of in 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:51.040 the cab that he could be the bust this year 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:53.520 based on where he's going. So there's some stats there. 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:57.880 We're also gonna get to Delaney Walker obviously, and we're 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:01.000 we're going to get to uh, Greg Olson as well 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:03.200 because we disagree about Greg Olson down stairs before the 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:06.000 show started. Franks and excited to have that discussion with 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:11.320 you about that night. Thank you, guys. Cut up this 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:15.520 music a long time ago for like jokeliners. Yeah, we've 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:17.520 recycled it throughout all of our birthdays. We have a 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:19.760 couple of more surprises along the way as well, So 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:21.960 stick around. There's more of me Fantasy best friends forever. 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:31.480 You have the Fantacy Sports fradetwork. 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The number is eight four four eight four 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:08.160 F and T s Y. That's eight four four eight 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.359 four three six eight seven nine. The Fancy Spots Radio 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:14.680 Network your free fancy source twenty four hours a day 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:33.760 us as directed Bay alrighty, my birthday indeeds You either 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:37.160 like Floril. We did dr A from inside. Injuries on 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:39.760 the line were always downstairs. You can skype doctor right 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:43.880 he's gonna join us celebrate your birthday. Man, He's only 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:47.760 coming on for you. We should go through all of 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:52.520 Michael for his injuries throughout his life, like, Dr that's awesome. Well, 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:55.919 you know, Dr Three, Michael Florio had authoritis in his 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:58.760 ankles as a young child. Um, well, I still do. 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:01.080 What can you tell us about out his long term 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:05.320 productivity as a fantasy football writer given his authortis and 0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:07.879 his ankles. Well, let's ask Dr A. He's listening right now. 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:10.680 It's up. Doc. Hey, guys, how are you can you 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:18.560 help us about Florio's lifelong arthritis problem? How old is Florio? Wow? 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:23.800 So he has arthritis? I haven't working here. What is 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:26.320 that I have? Like they call it runners knees or whatever? 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:29.640 I have that in both of my knees. Do you run? 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:34.280 I did not enough? I did in high school. Yeah, 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:38.679 I mean that is an actual doc diagnosis. Uh, you 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:41.080 can have runners knees, which is a little bit of 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:44.800 thinning of cartilage and causes a little bone marrow diema 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:47.800 within the bony part of the knee and it causes 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:50.639 a lot of pain. So that is true. It's an 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:54.119 actual diagnosis. So well, Doc, so you know this is 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:56.720 not only is this Floria's birthday, it's also his last 0:19:56.720 --> 0:19:59.240 time I want to show with you. He's he's headed 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:02.520 to l A tomorrow's program. Yes, I remember, I didn't 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:05.600 know when you were actually leaving. But uh, that's great. 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:08.440 Good luck to you, man. We don't wish really good luck. 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:12.720 Greggy became an executive. It's just he's kicking everybody out. 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:15.440 I wanted to say, I'm trying to do the oppositely, 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:18.880 ki him out. Oh you're guilty, Yes, all right, cool. 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:22.520 I don't know if it's working though. The big story 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:25.680 doc this week is Andrew Look not on the populist. 0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:28.680 He's already throwing Everybody loves Andrew lucky again. He's going 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:31.320 to play the first game in the preseason. Everybody is 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:34.480 happy and optimistic when it comes to Andrew Luck. Should 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:39.320 we be so? Um, we should be cautiously optimistic. I 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:43.679 don't know what that exactly does for the fantasy draft, 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:46.840 but um, what that means is do not make him 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:50.480 your number one. Uh he you know somebody will pick 0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:53.439 him number one, but his injury risk is just too high. 0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:56.200 Um it's still at twenty percent. I mean it's better 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:58.480 than it used to be. Um, it was that thirties, 0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:01.880 thirty in the high thirties. So he's down to which 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:04.480 is really good, and he's at peak at eight percent 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:06.480 and it's probably going to climb higher if he doesn't 0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:09.720 have any setbacks. That's the actual keyword. He still has 0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:11.679 quite a bit of throwing and quite a bit of 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:14.040 stuff that he has to do before game one of 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:18.399 the season, So uh, fantasy owners need to be pretty 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:22.440 careful on taking a risk on him being their number one. 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:25.160 I still think that he's a number two in fantasy drafts. 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:28.720 I mean, obviously, if he didn't have multiple setbacks with 0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:31.800 that throwing labor, you know, he'd probably be a number 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:34.320 one right now. But just by that tent I r. 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:39.400 C Um should be making him a number two. That's fair, doctor. 0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:43.400 I think given the depth of the quarterback position this year, 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:45.280 I agree with you, like if you take Andrew Luck, 0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:47.959 you have to have another quarterback in place. But I 0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:49.880 do like the upside a lot as well, So you're 0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:52.040 you're not just completely writing him off, like you can 0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:54.120 draft him, but just make sure you have like another 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:59.159 insurance policy in case everything goes south. Yes percent, if 0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:01.600 you do draft him on you gotta have a guy 0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:05.040 that is low injury risk and peak health that can 0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:07.800 come into his place and be a legitimate Number one 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:11.439 if he goes down because that injury risk of I 0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:14.080 mean one, one out of five chance of him getting 0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:18.240 injured is still way too high. Well, another quarterback who 0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:20.520 you know has plenty of injury risk heading into the 0:22:20.560 --> 0:22:23.160 season is Carson Wentz, who as of right now has 0:22:23.200 --> 0:22:27.440 avoided the physically unable to perform list for training camp. 0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:29.240 But we still don't know whether or not he's going 0:22:29.280 --> 0:22:32.280 to be ready four week one. Uh, if he miss 0:22:32.280 --> 0:22:35.200 his time, he can miss multiple games. Here. He tore 0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:36.639 his a c L later on in the season. I 0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:40.639 believe he had his surgery on December, so looking at 0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:43.159 about like nine months will be his recovery time by 0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:45.120 the time the season starts. How are we feeling about 0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:47.640 Carson Wentz? Should we be optimistic that he didn't land 0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:50.800 on the pub? Yes? I think, um, you should be 0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:53.880 more optimistic than Andrew Luck. Actually, um, you know, when 0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:57.159 it comes to purely just from an injury perspective, you know, 0:22:57.200 --> 0:23:00.000 tearing your a c L. The technology is so good now, 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:03.240 surgery is really good. I mean you can really uh 0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:05.840 you know, have a great year after tearing your a 0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:09.200 c L previously. Now, could you suffer other injuries? Of course, right, 0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:12.000 But Carson Wentz based on his player nucleus and kind 0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:15.040 of all his injury database in our algorithm, he's at 0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:18.520 six elevated injury risk right now. But by the time 0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:20.879 the season starts, if he doesn't have any setbacks based 0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:24.359 on the previous sort of combination of the types of 0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:27.760 injuries he has had, he likely will be very close 0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:31.080 to low injury risk and peak health. So he actually 0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:35.280 has a better outlook from from our standpoint than Andrew Luck. 0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:38.439 That that kind of pushes him into our recommendation from 0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:42.080 an injury standpoint to be as a number one as 0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:43.800 opposed to Angrew Luck, who would be a number two. 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:48.320 Josh Dackson is a full go for the start of 0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:51.199 training camp, and we know he's battled injuries throughout his 0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:54.399 entire career. But with this leg injury, would you be 0:23:54.560 --> 0:23:57.399 advising owners to stay away or is it fair for 0:23:57.440 --> 0:24:02.560 them to take a shot on him later in dress? So, uh, 0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:04.879 let me give you the metrics he's running out right 0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:10.360 now at which is elevated UM high injury risk is above, 0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:14.960 so he's not quite anywhere near low injury risk below averages. 0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:20.120 So even if he gets to closer to low injury risk, 0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:24.520 um our algorithms are saying that the previous injuries that 0:24:24.560 --> 0:24:28.960 he has suffered will still be significantly impactful on his 0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:31.119 play on the field because he's a He has a 0:24:31.200 --> 0:24:35.320 forty eight percent HPF where peak is at eighty something percent, 0:24:35.400 --> 0:24:37.919 So it's half of what peak should be at this 0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:40.840 time of year. So you know, I would say that 0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:43.880 he isn't avoid um and if you do, if you're 0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:46.000 going to pick him up, he must be picked up 0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:49.240 in much later rounds then you know, obviously the first 0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:53.399 you know, seven or eight rounds at least. Hey, by 0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:55.680 the way, when you guys talking about Carson wentz, uh, 0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:57.359 he should have training camp today. He's not on the 0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:00.560 pub or yesterday. He's not on the pup list. And 0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:02.960 he was asked about rehabbing and he just got married. 0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:05.359 He asked about rehabbing on his honeymoon. He gave a 0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:10.040 long pause and said he got some workouts in and 0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:13.440 after he burst of laughter, he said, in the fitness center, 0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:22.240 Carson Wentz, you're lady, ladies and gentlemen, tell dr A 0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:26.840 from inside Injuries and Doc. I'm someone that's very high 0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:29.320 on cream Hunt and I love Kareem Hunt this year 0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:31.760 and I expect big things from him. But nobody's really 0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:33.560 talking about the fact that Spencer wears back and he 0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:37.760 heard himself um in the preseason last year, very very 0:25:37.840 --> 0:25:40.320 early on. Is he health? You're ready to go? What 0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:44.480 your What kind of year can we expect from Spencer Ware? Yeah? 0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:48.240 So Spencer Ware is an interesting sort of case. Um, 0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:50.360 but you know, right now he's at peak health. He's 0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:53.600 at eight six percent climbing, so he could potentially get 0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:56.959 into So that's good news that whatever his injury was, 0:25:57.359 --> 0:26:01.080 it's not predicted to be impactful on his play. However, 0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:04.280 the UM in the the injury risk right now is 0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:07.600 at fifteen percent, which is elevated, so as the season 0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:10.639 starts to get closer and closer that things should start 0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:13.720 to creep down to eleven percent, which is the low threshold. 0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:16.840 So I think the likelihood if he doesn't have any 0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:20.800 other setbacks in training, camp, etcetera. From an injury perspective, 0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:23.480 he should be at low injury risk and peak health. 0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:26.320 So he's a really if people are not going to 0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:30.000 take him as their number one, I think that he 0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:34.000 would be a really really good insurance policy for somebody 0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:36.280 as a running back. All right, so an insurance policy 0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:39.280 both for Cream Haunt and for your fantasy teams. You know, 0:26:39.440 --> 0:26:41.960 we're talking to Dr a and and I obviously know 0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:46.360 your your specialty isn't exactly psychology in anyway, But I'm 0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:49.040 trying to figure out what's going on with Josh Gordon, 0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:51.520 and I don't know what you know about it. I 0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:54.560 know you're certainly tell us his the injury expectation whatnot. 0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:58.200 But from the mental aspect of the game, it seemed 0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:01.160 like he was healthy, he was clean, he was sober. 0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:05.240 And then just the day before Brown's camp opens, he 0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:07.920 doesn't show up and the team makes an announcement, the 0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:10.399 NFL makes an announcement, He makes an announcement saying he 0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:14.840 needs to get himself right. Um, he needs to be okay, 0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:17.080 so he could be their week one. Nobody seems to 0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:19.719 have any idea if he'll be there week one. Nobody 0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:22.480 seems to have any idea what's going on. I thought 0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:24.359 maybe you you'd have some insight on what's going on 0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:28.119 with Josh Gordon, so you know, mental health issues in 0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:32.640 in in general effect almost fifty of the human population. 0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:36.680 You know, whether it's smile to severe, it's someone needs 0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:39.000 to flip of a coin that someone sometime in their 0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:41.800 life is going to have some an issue with mental 0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:45.560 health because it's just like any other biological problem. You know, 0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:48.600 people who have diabetes can't produce insulin and because they 0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:51.320 have a problem with their pancreas. People that go through anxiety, 0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:54.840 true anxiety, have an issue with one of their centers 0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:56.800 in their brain and it's an organ and so that's 0:27:57.040 --> 0:28:00.240 it's gonna happen. And that's the problem here is that 0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:02.320 you know, it's a very difficult thing to treat. Sometimes, 0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:04.040 it takes it takes a while, there's a lot of 0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:08.040 peaks and valleys, and um, it affects anybody, including an 0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:12.880 NFL pro athlete. It's it's an equal opportunity type of problem, 0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:17.720 you know, so unfortunately can significantly impact you know, our 0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:20.080 brain is the center of everything. So it doesn't matter 0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:23.000 if you're clearly in shape and he's got you know, 0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:29.120 HPF which is pretty high. Um, there is uh nothing 0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:31.760 that they can do until he gets his mind right, 0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:33.800 and the only way to do that is through counseling. 0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:37.439 You know. Uh, psychiatric help as well as medications and 0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:39.719 get to a right balance so that way he can 0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:44.360 actually utilize you know, the physicality in the you know, 0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:48.440 in his peak, you know sort of system. So I'm 0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:51.760 hoping that makes sense. A three, I wanted to ask 0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:54.200 you about Julian Edelman, who I don't know if people 0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:56.640 realize it is now thirty two years old, and he 0:28:56.720 --> 0:28:59.520 tore his A c L very early in camp last year. 0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:01.680 I is gonna be dealing with the four game suspension 0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:04.320 to start the season, so that's pushing him down draft 0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:07.040 boards for fantasy football purposes. But you know, a guy 0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:09.760 who depends so much on his lateral quickness coming back 0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:12.600 from the torn a c L. He's thirty two years old. 0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:15.280 Should we worry about him a little bit more because he's, 0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:19.000 you know, pass that thirty year old mark. Or are 0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:21.440 we still all systems go with Julian Edelman because of 0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:23.680 the science and the research that we have with the 0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:27.320 torn a cels. Yeah, I mean I think, um, anytime 0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:29.920 you it's not just even passing thirty years of age, 0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:32.240 it's also the number of games, play, a number of hits, 0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:34.960 you know, just the constant contact. It's just very very 0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:37.280 much you know, as you get older, you know the 0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:39.960 injury risk will go higher. It's just how much higher 0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:42.040 it will be. And so that's what kind of our 0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:44.640 algorithm shows is that he's at eighteen percent. He's not 0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:47.040 going to get any lower than that. Again, he's at 0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:49.360 peak health right recovering from an A c L. That's 0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:54.600 very good. So the injury won't impact his ability, you know, 0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:56.880 to play on the field. It will be sort of 0:29:56.920 --> 0:29:59.640 he's at peak health. Again, the question is is Kenny 0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:02.720 stay on the field. And right now our algorithm is 0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:05.800 saying is that he's likelihood. You know, when you had 0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:09.360 elevated injury risk at eighteen percent, take and it's a 0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:12.360 very simple calculation. They're sixteen games in a season. If 0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:15.000 he's at twent take a fifth of the games out 0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:17.640 through the injury basically, so he's close to that. He'll 0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:20.320 miss at least four to five games of equivalent time. 0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:24.760 And that's what our algorithm is is basically saying, I 0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:27.600 wanted to ask you about a player who really hasn't 0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:30.280 done anything at the NFL level, but it seems on 0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:33.440 his team the dark horse candidate always emerges, as you know, 0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:35.840 a running back to own as a season goes on. 0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:39.640 That player is Kenneth Dixon of the Baltimore Ravens. He's 0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:42.920 saying he feels good. He avoided the active pu P list, 0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:47.680 So is he back at a prime health and should 0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:50.160 is it something that Alex Collins owners should worry about 0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:54.040 Kenneth Dixon maybe stealing some touches. So I was about 0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:56.480 to say all this stuff about Kenneth Dixon, but then 0:30:56.480 --> 0:31:00.640 there was an early report today on some local UM 0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:05.600 Baltimore channels and that he limped off the field, off 0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:07.880 the practice field today with an unknown injury. I don't 0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:11.560 know if you guys got that information. Literally, it literally 0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:13.960 just happened. And so the question is is it on 0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:17.120 the original knee or not. So if we pretend that 0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:19.920 we we you know, if we pretend that we didn't 0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.960 hear that, yes, I agree with you. It's plenty of 0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:26.280 time to heal low injury risk peak health he's at 0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:29.800 and he's at seven peak health. It's gonna be a 0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:33.120 lot higher once the season starts. However, we need to 0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:37.840 now dive into this um you know, potential limping off 0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:40.320 the practice field and see if there's actually any truth 0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:42.360 to that. So I think the only thing to say 0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:45.440 is let's wait and see for what it's worth. I'm 0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:50.360 seeing a reporter say it's a tweeked hamstring. Okay, yeah, 0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:53.280 so obviously that changes a little bit. Tweeked hamstring is 0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:56.440 probably at least a soft tissue hamstring injury for a 0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:58.280 running back, it could be as high as a Grade one. 0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:00.040 We would have to plug that into our alt of 0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:02.959 them and see what injury severity comes out to, and 0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:06.000 then we'd be able to rerun his metrics. So whatever 0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:08.720 I just said about kennetics and don't listen to until 0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:12.480 we actually rerun these metrics. So there are a chance, Doc, 0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:14.840 that you know, you talk about when these players are 0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:17.880 coming back from injury, that they're you know, compensating. I mean, 0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:19.960 it's very early in camp, but shouldn't we be worried 0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:22.520 that it's just the first day. Maybe there's some compensation 0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:24.760 involved here. He's you know, he's trying to use one 0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:26.760 leg more than the other, and maybe that's what led 0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:29.120 to this hamstring injury. Because you know, I'm very heavily 0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:32.840 invested in Alex Collins, so to me, less competition around 0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:35.440 him the better. Is that something that you know, could 0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:40.120 continue to freep up with Kenneth Dickton. So you're the 0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:43.480 number one cause of an injury. Uh, coming off of 0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:46.480 another injury is the fact that there is a psychological 0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:52.080 mental component of compensation um you know, with that torn meniscus, 0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:54.240 you know, maybe he's thinking that he doesn't you know, 0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:56.560 he wants to kind of gingerly kind of put that together, 0:32:56.640 --> 0:33:00.760 puts additional pressure on the hamstring on the other lag 0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:02.479 or this lag, and then it causes a little bit 0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:04.200 of a tweak. Sometimes has nothing to do with it, 0:33:04.240 --> 0:33:07.120 but there is a component of that. So yes, there 0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:10.880 is a little bit of compensation um um here. But 0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:12.840 you know, if it's a soft tissue hamstring, it's not 0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:14.800 even a grade one. You know, that thing is in 0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:17.320 a few days, it will be good to go. And uh, 0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:19.240 maybe it's just something that he has to get over 0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:21.080 the hump and it may not affect his metric and 0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:23.360 his numbers that much. So let's just we'll have to 0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:26.160 wait and see based on when we pull all of 0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:28.320 our information and plug it in to see what kind 0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:30.960 of know what it does to his metrics. Dr A 0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:35.080 Inside Injuries, We appreciate the time. As always, We'll talk 0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:37.080 to you next week. Frank and I I'll probably never 0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:40.520 talk to Floria again. So well, Floria, good luck to you. 0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:42.960 It was a pleasure working with you. And whatever you 0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:45.520 do in the future, good luck to you. Thank you, 0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:49.040 insane to you. Alright, very app there you go, and 0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:51.200 there you gotta talk to a inside injuries the absolute 0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:53.280 best and trying to predict injuries and trying to let 0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:54.760 you know, listen, you don't want to draft these guys 0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:58.239 because they're always hurt. So make sure you always will 0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:01.160 listen to the guys and the crew, especially Virginia and 0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:04.800 Tracy and Inside Injuries. Yeah, and you know, download the 0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:08.400 app and I've I've turned my notifications on for their tweets. 0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:11.920 Whenever Inside Injury they tweet out stuff, they're right on 0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:13.840 the ball. I mean they were tweeting about the Kennetics 0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:15.800 and injury earlier on as well, so that's how I 0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:18.240 knew about it. So whenever they tweet out about an injury, 0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:20.719 I'm getting the the instant update if you turn on 0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:23.640 those notifications on Twitter, something that I would recommend. All Right, 0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:25.440 we about two minutes before but we hit the break, 0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:28.320 which means I want to give Mike another present. Alright, 0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:30.440 I'd like to give them the one that matches that a. 0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:33.919 How what did you guys? We got you guys. Else, Mike, 0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:37.279 I wanna I'm gonna throw it to camera first. You're 0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:40.320 gonna be by the beach, you said, the beach, So 0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:44.760 you need your brand new New York Mets beach towel 0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:48.280 to lay on it to be with you at all times. 0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:51.080 You could rent your New York Mets in your salt 0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:54.960 and pepper shirt while you're laying out on your New 0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:57.279 York Mets beach towel. Thank you, guys. One of the 0:34:57.320 --> 0:34:59.520 first pictures you better send back to the BFF group 0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:04.160 chat should be you were laying with that on the beach. 0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:06.040 So if you you want to put it on now 0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:08.279 as a as a cape, that would work for us. 0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:13.040 Oh yeah yeah, we're even like a scarf would work 0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:17.600 as well. So we'll I'm opening it. We'll just wait 0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:19.080 for you to do that. It's it's with radio. So 0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:21.240 if you're gonna describe what you're doing, all right, Well 0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:23.719 I had to open it. Yeah, I'm gonna use it 0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:27.600 like a scar here that looks that's you look rate. 0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:29.000 So there you go. There's my Floria and his brand 0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:30.440 new Met scar. You wanna put on your ear salt 0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:32.839 pepper shirt during the break too. Maybe sure, it's gonna 0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:34.200 be great. Yeah, I think you should have put the 0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:36.520 salt pepper shirt off during the break. Um. I wanted 0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:39.200 to get you a salt and pepper shaker, but Frank 0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:41.719 overruled me and bout you the shirt instead. All right, 0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:46.040 just being honest there, I would have appreciated either one. Right, 0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:49.920 that's fine. This well, we're gonna we're gonna take a break. 0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:53.680 When we come back. Three more tenants to get you 0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:56.359 rapid fire. We're gonna get them all in. We're gonna 0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:58.279 pick the biggest bus and we're gonna break it down. 0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:01.800 We're celebrating Mike Flora's birthday. Fantasy Sports Radio Network Fantasy 0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:04.759 BFFs Power are coming your way at five. We're gonna 0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:08.000 give you sixty players in sixty minutes while drinking. It's 0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:09.640 gonna be awesome. You don't want to miss it. Stick 0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:19.360 around more from your bfs right after us. Have you 0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:21.359 ever wanted to have a fantasy expert in the palm 0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:23.440 of your hand for federal yet in the pocket of 0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:25.600 your capis We'll check it out now you can. It's 0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:29.040 a Fantasy sports radio network app, Download it down to 0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:32.640 your phone. We promised, no weird viruses, no strange tracking things, 0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:35.840 just twenty four hours a day, seven days a week 0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:40.560 of pure fantasy knowledge dropping all over your head. It's 0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:43.960 a fantasy sports radio network app. Stop being a weirdo 0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:46.120 and streaming it online. Get it on your phone, take 0:36:46.160 --> 0:37:01.280 it with you every where you go. Happy birthday to him, 0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:04.839 Happy birthday to you. Have three more tight ends left, 0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:06.279 and I want to make sure we get to them 0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:08.719 all before we do. I have another uh birthday. You 0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:11.200 get to make Florid like I don't want to the end. 0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:13.480 I want to say that one Dan, I have another one, alright, 0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:15.279 but I have another one I'd like to give you 0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:17.759 all you ready, Mike, Guys went way too above. All right, 0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:20.239 so far we've gotten you the scarf that you're wearing, 0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:22.680 it is really a towel, and the salt and pepper shirt. 0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:25.400 But as I said, it doesn't make sense to have 0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:30.200 a salt pepper shirt without the pepper shaker. Alrighty, there 0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:37.120 you go, Greggy. Greggy is preshenting Michael Florida legit pepper shaker. Mike, 0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:39.719 you just get pepper everyone to us, give usper can 0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:40.920 you do nothing on the floor because we have to 0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:42.640 clean it up. Where am I supposed to do it? Then? 0:37:42.719 --> 0:37:47.320 On the table would be heardable? Yeah, get into the shake. Yeah, 0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:55.160 let's go. Is actually there you go? Salt pepper shaker, Mike, 0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:57.040 Is there anything coming out? No, I try to have 0:37:57.080 --> 0:38:00.200 a broken one. There you go. I smell with though, 0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:03.080 just like like orange and blue supplies in there, so 0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:06.279 you can do the salt and pepper shaker. There's just 0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:13.719 mets particles pours. There you go, Mike, all right, I said, Um, 0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:17.120 before the pull up Barry's article on Jimmy Graham, I 0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:20.200 will do that before I do. You noted to me 0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:23.120 Frank downstairs at Jimmy Graham and Evan Silva, who we 0:38:23.160 --> 0:38:25.120 have reached out to come on the show. Um, Evan 0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:28.640 Silva's rankings, he's Jimmy Graham is number four, tight end 0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:30.719 on the year. I know my eyes open were a 0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:33.760 little open on that. What about you? It's very interesting. 0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:37.080 I haven't I haven't ranked the top twelve, like I 0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:39.080 have an idea of where I want guys to be. 0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:41.759 But there's a chance that I'm gonna have Jimmy Graham 0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:44.880 four as well. And I understand he physically looked like 0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:46.600 he broke down last year. But if you're just looking 0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:49.520 at opportunity this season, I feel like he has a 0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:52.880 chance to fill in the shoes of Doherty Nelson. You know, 0:38:53.000 --> 0:38:56.799 last year, Jimmy Jimmy Graham six red zone targets that 0:38:56.880 --> 0:39:00.560 led all of football. The year before that was with 0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:03.800 Aaron Rodgers at the helm as the quarterback. Geordy Nelson 0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:07.200 had thirty two red zone targets. That was the most 0:39:07.719 --> 0:39:11.040 that season. The next closest was Kylo Rolf with twenty 0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:13.239 five red zone targets. So I think that there's a 0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:15.759 chance that Jimmy Graham's gonna step in. He's not gonna 0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:18.040 get thirty two red zone targets. I'm not gonna project 0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:21.360 that Davantae Adams is there. I think there's a chance 0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:24.320 that Jimmy Graham could take some of those touchdowns away 0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:27.319 from Adams. But I think that the opportunity is there. 0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:30.640 Like everyone expects Randall cob to be the number two 0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:33.840 options in the passing game here, like, why not Jimmy Graham. 0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:36.520 I know that Rogers hasn't typically used the tight end 0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:39.440 throughout his career, but you know, he lost Jordy Nelson. 0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:42.359 He hasn't necessarily had a tight end to the same 0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:45.360 caliber as Jimmy Graham. Jimmy Graham's not his old self. 0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:48.400 But I'm just looking at opportunity here and I'm getting excited. 0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:52.200 And in PPR he's bummed down a little bit, but 0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:55.040 standard half point, I think there's gonna be touchdowns here. 0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:57.719 I wouldn't be surprised. I think seven eight touchdowns is 0:39:57.719 --> 0:39:59.600 a fair projection for Jimmy Graham this here, and he 0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:02.000 and he feed does that he's gonna end up being 0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:03.760 close to a top five tight end in my opinion. 0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:06.360 Here's the stats that that I add for you. Florio. 0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:08.560 Do you know the last time that Aaron Rodgers finished 0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:12.279 with a top or package I should say, finished with 0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:14.279 a top ten Fantasy ten end. I think I do 0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:17.080 because I looked at every single tight end since all 0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:19.560 the week back to two twelve with the Packers. I'm 0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:21.560 going to guess it was your Michael Finley, and I'm 0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:24.759 saying who it was, I'm going twelve. I'd imagine what 0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:28.920 year was twelve, What year was twelve? Last year they 0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:30.799 had a top ten ten end your side. That's my guest. 0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:37.759 I think Richard Rodgers was somewhere in there. It was 0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:39.640 twenty eleven. Last time I had a top ten tight 0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:44.000 endy it was last year. Again. This non scille from 0:40:44.000 --> 0:40:47.319 Matthew Berry's hundred hundred fact column TMR over ESPN dot 0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:51.400 com um last year, how many of Aaron Rodgers had 0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:53.560 thirty two red zens targets? Obviously only thirty two because 0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:56.200 only played a few games. Out of those thirty two 0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:58.440 red zone targets, how many do you think went to 0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:02.640 tight ends? Remember that Steen Broughten, Jared cooked to or 0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:08.759 he's the guy four, I'll say six between five it's five. 0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:11.800 Only five out of thirty two targets by our Rodgers 0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:15.239 went to a tight end at all. I know that 0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:17.520 Jimmy Graham and now the Graham numbers, which you know 0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:19.200 are kind of the opposite of this, as you can 0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:21.720 kind of see how you play with numbers. So Jimmy 0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:25.920 Graham has had the most red zone targets in the 0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:29.399 NFL over the last two years. You have to think 0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:33.799 something's gonna give, either positively or negatively. I don't know 0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:38.160 which one that is. Yeah, So for me, I have 0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:40.680 a lot of info on Jimmy Graham that to me 0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:43.320 says that I think he's going to be the bust 0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:46.440 of this bunch. Like you said Greggy two thousand eleven. 0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:48.880 For top tight end uh in two thousand twelve, I 0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:51.120 thought it was Finly he had eighty seven targets, sixty 0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:53.759 one catches, six hundred and sixty seven yards, and two touchdowns. 0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:56.920 The next best tight end season since two thousand twelve 0:41:57.200 --> 0:42:00.800 was in with Richard Rodgers when he had eight five targets, 0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:04.640 fifty eight catches, five hundred and ten yards, and eight touchdowns. 0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:07.680 So maybe Jimmy Graham could do that this year. But 0:42:08.719 --> 0:42:11.319 like you said, Jim, Jimmy Graham led the NFL in 0:42:11.719 --> 0:42:15.120 red zone targets last year. Well, Davantae Adams led all 0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:18.200 wide receivers. He had thirty seven point one percent of 0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:22.480 the Packers red zone targets last year. He also he 0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:25.440 had six targets in the end zone. And you look 0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:29.600 at Jimmy Graham. His ten touchdowns, all of them came 0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:32.120 from inside the red zone, and eight of them came 0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:34.959 from inside the ten yard line. And then I looked 0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:37.800 even further. So last year Jimmy Graham ten touchdowns, fifty 0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:40.960 seven receptions, five hundred and twenty yards. Since the post 0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:43.840 merger in nineteen seventy, there's been two hundred and eighty 0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:47.880 four seasons where a player has scored ten or more touchdowns. 0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:51.719 Four times that happened. His fifty seven receptions amongst those 0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:55.279 two eighty four players ranks two hundred and seven, and 0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:57.960 his five hundred and twenty yards ranks two hundred and 0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:00.560 eighty first out of two hundred and eighty four. So 0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:07.560 clearly extremely extremely extremely touchdown dependent. The fact that, yeah, 0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:10.240 I do think he will obviously post the best numbers 0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:13.839 they tight end on the packers has sense, uh Jamichael Finley, 0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:16.560 but if those touchdowns come down and he's more in 0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:19.680 like the six or seven range instead of the ten 0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:23.120 plus range, I think that's obviously gonna hurt him. I 0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:26.120 haven't ranked right now at six. I've debated him and 0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:28.400 Evan Ingram going back and forth at five and six, 0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:32.640 but I do think there's a better chance Jimmy Graham 0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:34.920 bus than Evan Ingram, so he is my pick of 0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:37.239 these four. I will say this greg the year that 0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:41.240 Jordy Nelson at the thirty two red zone targets, Davantae 0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:44.080 Adams was third in the NFL that year with twenty 0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:48.759 three red zone targets. Shorty Nelson scored eleven touchdowns from 0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:52.399 inside the red zone. Davante Adams had nine. So there 0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:54.880 is room for both of these guys to get touchdowns 0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:57.040 and get them inside of the red zone, to have 0:43:57.120 --> 0:43:59.719 a lot of targets. Randall Cobb not typically a guy 0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:02.279 who demands a lot of targets inside the red zone either. 0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:05.360 So if I'm looking at this sixteen, it seems like 0:44:05.400 --> 0:44:08.640 a nice, uh template for what can happen with Jimmy 0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:11.319 Graham this year, whether it's whether it's Davante Adams with 0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:14.160 the thirty two or you know, close to thirty leading 0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:16.799 the team and Jimmy Graham with you know, the low 0:44:16.880 --> 0:44:20.320 to mid twenties. Like, there is a template here for 0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:23.879 two packers to score twenty touchdowns inside the red zone, 0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:27.400 because we've seen it done already in I'm looking at 0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:29.840 last year's numbers for tight ends, whether it was a 0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:33.400 down year or whatever. Evan Ingram, who had seven hundred 0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:35.799 and twenty two yards and six touchdowns, finishes the tight 0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:38.759 end four in points per game. I could see Jimmy 0:44:38.800 --> 0:44:42.000 Graham having seven hundred yards and seven or eight touchdowns 0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:43.640 and to me, that's gonna be good enough to be 0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:47.480 a top five tight end. I'm concerned that Graham. Last 0:44:47.560 --> 0:44:49.759 year we saw that Graham was literally nothing but a 0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:53.360 red zone target. I mean, that was it the ready 0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:55.319 to Aaron Rodgers, it's an upgrade, but Aaron Rodgers a 0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:59.160 lot more pieces in that red zone. Adams being certainly 0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:03.200 the one with put a red circle around then Russell 0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:06.120 Wilson did, like Danta Adams a better resident target than 0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:08.600 Doug Baldwin is. And I think that if a Rodgers 0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:11.520 doesn't rely on Jimmy Graham like Russell Wilson did, Jimmy 0:45:11.520 --> 0:45:12.839 Grahams is just gonna kind of drop out the phase 0:45:12.880 --> 0:45:15.000 of the earth a little bit. Certainly a chance that 0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:17.239 can happen, Like there is volatility with this pick, and 0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:19.680 I will not deny that, but I think you know 0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:21.840 what you're getting when it comes to a tight end position. 0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:23.799 If you don't grab one of the big three, you're 0:45:23.920 --> 0:45:26.000 probably trying to find the guy who's most likely to 0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:28.240 score a touchdown week in and week out. Gimmy grahams 0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:30.920 that guy. I'll say this as well, Like so Frank, 0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:33.440 you laid out the stats from seen perfectly. But my 0:45:33.520 --> 0:45:35.759 only issue with that is that was Aaron Rodgers. He 0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:37.960 threw forty touchdowns that year. That was the second highest 0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:40.520 in his career. So if we don't see that number, 0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:43.000 maybe that takes a hit a bit. And I owned 0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:45.719 Jimmy Graham last year and I can tell you the 0:45:45.760 --> 0:45:48.640 weeks he didn't score a touchdown. It was atrocious. Like 0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:52.399 I'm talking like two points on the week so to me, 0:45:52.840 --> 0:45:55.880 and that's in a half point PPR. I maybe he 0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:58.480 is safer than I'm saying giving him credit for, but 0:45:58.560 --> 0:46:01.040 I think he has the lead some amount of upside 0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:03.960 of I think Evan Ingram or Greg Olsen bull have 0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:07.759 higher upside than Jimmy Graham and Blaney Walker the other time. 0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:10.680 And we're gonna talk about costs significantly less. So that's 0:46:10.719 --> 0:46:14.399 the reason I landed on Jimmy Graham is my bust, Frank. 0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:17.280 The other person we really debated hard downstairs ish hardish 0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:21.200 was Greg Olsen. Because greg Olsen, you had said he's 0:46:21.680 --> 0:46:24.080 quote on my do not draft list. You of course 0:46:24.120 --> 0:46:27.920 backtrack immediately. But when I remember North Turner was the 0:46:27.960 --> 0:46:29.840 offensive quarter, you should listen. He's not He's on my 0:46:29.880 --> 0:46:32.319 do not draft list. He was hurt all yet last year. 0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:35.640 They have Christian McCaffrey who's a year older and was 0:46:35.680 --> 0:46:37.960 amazing last year, and now they want to get him 0:46:37.960 --> 0:46:41.359 a billion touches a week to thirty according to run. Yeah, 0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:44.399 as it's a billion, you have Devin Funch is coming 0:46:44.400 --> 0:46:46.839 into his own. They drafted DJ Moore in the first round. 0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:49.200 So there's all these weapons. Greg Olds is gonna fall 0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:51.600 by the wayside. And I was really in the opposite 0:46:51.600 --> 0:46:54.680 camp that, hey, if he stays healthy, he's still Cam's guy, 0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:56.319 whether it's the red zone or not. I mean, he's 0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:59.480 still as good as ever. And yes, Christian McCaffrey is 0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:01.960 certainly there, but it's a team that's never utilized two 0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:04.920 wide receivers as much as they can be utilized. And 0:47:04.960 --> 0:47:10.680 I was still banking on Greg Olsen. So we disagreed here. Yeah, 0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:12.880 and I am worried about Greg Olsen. It's kind of 0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:17.200 similar to Evan Ingram and even a little bit with 0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:20.400 Travis Kelsey as well, Like I'm worried about target distribution 0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:22.960 for some of these guys because Greg Olsen, I mean, 0:47:23.120 --> 0:47:26.320 five straight years over a hundred targets, over a thousand yards, 0:47:26.400 --> 0:47:30.040 three seasons in a row. Last year was abysmal. He 0:47:30.080 --> 0:47:32.640 was hurt for most of the year. The production wasn't there. 0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:35.239 He was tied for twenty seven and points per game 0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:39.400 whatever Steen tight and four tight and six. Yes he 0:47:39.480 --> 0:47:41.879 was great, but that was with high volume. I mean, 0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:46.480 lead this team in targets on twenty seven Calvin Benjamin 0:47:46.560 --> 0:47:51.040 one eight team Ted Gin led this team in targets 0:47:51.040 --> 0:47:54.000 a hundred and twenty three Ted gain nineties six seven 0:47:54.080 --> 0:47:57.799 funches sixty four something is not going to add up 0:47:57.800 --> 0:47:59.920 here by end of year. Whether you know Christian mc 0:48:00.000 --> 0:48:01.880 half he is going to see a big decrease in targets, 0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:03.920 or you know, maybe it's d J. Moore coming in 0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:06.440 as a rookie and you know, maybe not doing much. 0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:08.640 Maybe that's what it comes down to. But you know, 0:48:08.680 --> 0:48:11.160 if you expect Devin Functs to still be the number 0:48:11.160 --> 0:48:14.600 one wide receiver, maybe not number one target on the outside, 0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:17.680 who's going to demand attention in the red zone? Demand targets. 0:48:18.080 --> 0:48:21.080 Christian McCaffrey nearly a hundred and twenty targets last year, 0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:24.360 led all of rookies. I'm just worried. I'm worried about 0:48:24.400 --> 0:48:27.319 workload here. How many opportunities is he gonna get He's 0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:30.640 another year older, a guy who was contemplating retirement in 0:48:30.680 --> 0:48:33.000 the off season had an offer to go into a 0:48:33.040 --> 0:48:35.880 broadcasting career. The one thing that I do like is 0:48:35.880 --> 0:48:38.759 that north Turner takes over as the offensive coordinator here, 0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:41.440 and we've seen him do wonders with tight ends a 0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:43.839 couple of years ago when Kyle Roudoff finished as tight 0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:46.080 end two. That was with north Turner as d o C. 0:48:46.480 --> 0:48:49.360 All those years within Antonio Gates getting things done with 0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:52.799 the San Diego Chargers, the then San Diego Chargers. That 0:48:52.840 --> 0:48:55.319 was with north Turner as the head coach, So he 0:48:55.360 --> 0:48:57.920 clearly gets the tight end involved. I'm just worried about 0:48:57.960 --> 0:49:02.840 one year older for Greg Olson. All these targets coming in, Uh, 0:49:02.880 --> 0:49:05.759 these are the best weapons that Cam Newton has ever 0:49:05.760 --> 0:49:08.280 had in his career. Like before he had to zone 0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:11.440 in on Greg olsens. So I'm just worried with that, 0:49:11.480 --> 0:49:14.960 worried about age. I think I've talked myself again into 0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:16.560 him being on my do not draft list. I'm not 0:49:16.600 --> 0:49:19.160 gonna let just north Turner being there be the reason 0:49:19.200 --> 0:49:21.680 why I get in. I'm not gonna own any shares 0:49:21.680 --> 0:49:25.560 of Greg ols from the season. So the new weapon 0:49:25.600 --> 0:49:27.759 they have now is a rookie water receiver. But last 0:49:27.840 --> 0:49:30.840 year they had Punches, they had me Caffrey. They had 0:49:30.880 --> 0:49:35.000 basically the same offense minus d J. Moore. When greg 0:49:35.000 --> 0:49:37.600 Olson returned the final three games of the season last year, 0:49:37.640 --> 0:49:41.759 Greggy twelve targets, six targets, nine targets, and then the 0:49:41.800 --> 0:49:45.480 playoffs when it mattered most, he went twelve targets, eight catches, 0:49:45.480 --> 0:49:48.280 a hundred and seven yards and a touchdown. Cam Newton 0:49:48.320 --> 0:49:51.319 loves this guy even last year would have banged up foot, 0:49:51.400 --> 0:49:53.520 not playing at a hundred percent. Once he got back 0:49:53.560 --> 0:49:55.480 on the field, they threw him the ball, and they 0:49:55.520 --> 0:49:57.640 threw him the ball plenty. He didn't perform well in 0:49:57.680 --> 0:50:00.759 those three final games that I just referenced. In fact, 0:50:00.760 --> 0:50:02.480 in the regular season last year he had one game 0:50:02.520 --> 0:50:04.080 with over thirty yards and that was one. We had 0:50:04.080 --> 0:50:07.040 twelve catches for twelve targets I'm sorry, nine catches a 0:50:07.120 --> 0:50:09.120 hundred six yards in the TV. But then in the 0:50:09.120 --> 0:50:11.560 playoffs can't win a matter most Cam was going back 0:50:11.560 --> 0:50:14.480 to him here. In those final four games, including the playoffs, 0:50:14.920 --> 0:50:16.960 three or four of them he had over nine targets, 0:50:17.000 --> 0:50:19.080 and the one he didn't he had six. I don't 0:50:19.120 --> 0:50:21.680 think a rookie wall receiver is gonna change that. I 0:50:21.719 --> 0:50:24.120 think that they will find ways to get see him. 0:50:24.120 --> 0:50:27.160 Ce and Greg Olsen. The ball I have greg Olsen 0:50:27.200 --> 0:50:30.160 ranked is my number four tight end, and I while 0:50:30.200 --> 0:50:32.719 I'm not actively targeting him by any stretch because I 0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:35.799 keep waiting and just taking Burton and Rudolph, Um, I 0:50:35.800 --> 0:50:38.239 would draft him over every Ingram. I would draft him 0:50:38.280 --> 0:50:41.200 over Jimmy Graham. And I'm not too worried about it, 0:50:42.160 --> 0:50:44.160 all right, So there you go. I'm with you. When 0:50:44.160 --> 0:50:45.839 it comes to Greg Olson, I also want him ahead 0:50:45.920 --> 0:50:48.920 Jimmy Graham. I also feel comfortable with him. And now 0:50:48.920 --> 0:50:50.920 we get to the final one, and that's the Lady Walker. 0:50:51.160 --> 0:50:54.200 De Lady Walker, long time Titans tight end, long time 0:50:54.239 --> 0:50:58.640 success story. Um, but this is the one that feels 0:50:58.680 --> 0:51:01.000 to me like this you could just break down. And 0:51:01.040 --> 0:51:03.920 that's why, like in my in Scotts fishbol for instance, 0:51:03.920 --> 0:51:06.360 another best Ball draft, I think Johnny Smith got no 0:51:06.360 --> 0:51:08.680 one's taking, and he should because I think Delaney Walker, 0:51:08.760 --> 0:51:11.240 like one of these days at his age, the amount 0:51:11.239 --> 0:51:13.520 of wear and tear, he's gonna break down. And if 0:51:13.400 --> 0:51:15.120 if you're buying in the red zone in Green Bay 0:51:15.320 --> 0:51:17.520 and you like me Floria buying to Greg Olsen having 0:51:17.560 --> 0:51:20.840 renaissance and staying healthy this year. Then to me, Delanney 0:51:20.840 --> 0:51:23.520 Walker is the one that's just not going to ultimately 0:51:23.719 --> 0:51:26.279 had the year we used to him having Mikey. I mean, 0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:30.080 he hasn't played in less than fifteen games since two thousands. 0:51:30.400 --> 0:51:33.400 That's a long time it is. But to me, that 0:51:33.480 --> 0:51:37.480 kind of says he's very durable. But to me, I 0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:39.719 can't have him as a bus because, yes, what he 0:51:39.760 --> 0:51:42.239 did in fifteen, that was an anomaly when he had 0:51:42.440 --> 0:51:45.880 the ninety four catches one thousand eight yards and six touchdowns, 0:51:46.280 --> 0:51:50.280 but three of the other four years over eight hundred yards. 0:51:50.320 --> 0:51:55.040 Every single season he's gonna give you between like four 0:51:55.120 --> 0:51:57.160 to six touchdowns in that range. I know we only 0:51:57.160 --> 0:51:59.480 had the three last year, but every other year for 0:51:59.520 --> 0:52:01.759 the last four or five it's been four between four 0:52:01.760 --> 0:52:04.520 and seven. So I also and I know people are 0:52:04.560 --> 0:52:07.520 gonna hype up Corey Davis. Corey Davis returned last year 0:52:07.520 --> 0:52:11.080 on November five. From that point forward, Delaney Walker saw 0:52:11.400 --> 0:52:15.319 at least five targets in every single game. His per 0:52:15.400 --> 0:52:18.360 game stats during that stretch, we're six point nine targets 0:52:18.360 --> 0:52:21.839 per game, four point seven catches, fifty three point seven yards, 0:52:21.880 --> 0:52:24.560 and a third of a touchdown. His sixteen game pace. 0:52:24.719 --> 0:52:27.280 If you take away on the time where Corey Davis 0:52:27.560 --> 0:52:30.600 was out, there is a hundred and ten targets, seventy 0:52:30.600 --> 0:52:34.279 five catches, eight hundred and fifty nine yards, and five touchdowns. 0:52:34.400 --> 0:52:36.880 Delaney Walker just does what Delaney Walker does. It's not 0:52:36.920 --> 0:52:40.080 gonna be like super fun or exciting or pretty, but 0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:41.759 at the end of the year, I think you can 0:52:41.840 --> 0:52:46.879 bank on around seventy catches, uh eight hundred yards, four 0:52:46.960 --> 0:52:49.920 or five touchdowns, and he'll be a top tight end 0:52:50.200 --> 0:52:52.600 tight end one. I can't have him as a bus 0:52:52.600 --> 0:52:54.640 He also costs you the least of these four. You 0:52:54.680 --> 0:52:57.719 know what's craziest of this group, he's the safest in 0:52:57.760 --> 0:52:59.799 my opinion, I hear what you're saying, Greg, I think 0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:02.320 you own John HU Smith and like a keeper dynasty 0:53:02.640 --> 0:53:04.520 something like that, you get excited about it. And even 0:53:04.560 --> 0:53:06.800 if you take de Landy Walker in a Best Ball draft, 0:53:06.920 --> 0:53:09.120 one of these deeper ones, maybe take John H. Smith 0:53:09.160 --> 0:53:10.759 is like your tight end three, just as like a 0:53:10.800 --> 0:53:14.600 backup in case this does happen. Because Delaney Walker is older, 0:53:14.640 --> 0:53:17.239 but you know, extremely say four years in a row 0:53:17.320 --> 0:53:21.319 eight hundred or more receiving yards. Last year lad the 0:53:21.360 --> 0:53:25.120 Tennessee Titans in red zone targets with twelve was number 0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:29.240 one among tight ends in end zone targets share. Fifty 0:53:29.320 --> 0:53:31.880 percent of the end zone targets for the Tennessee Titans 0:53:31.960 --> 0:53:35.759 last year was Delandy Walker and he only had three touchdowns, 0:53:35.800 --> 0:53:38.479 So positive touchdown regression I think is coming. I think 0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:41.879 as safe a bet for seven hundred and fifty yards 0:53:41.880 --> 0:53:44.480 because maybe he regresses a little bit. He's had eight hundred, 0:53:44.520 --> 0:53:48.520 but seven hundred and fifty yards five six touchdowns extremely safe. 0:53:48.520 --> 0:53:51.520 In my opinion, Delandy Walker is the unsung hero of 0:53:51.560 --> 0:53:54.960 this group, Greggy, if I had to pick my busts, 0:53:55.160 --> 0:53:57.840 the guy that I'm scared of the most, it's Evan Ingram, 0:53:57.880 --> 0:54:00.319 and then it's Greg Olsen. Out of this group, the 0:54:00.360 --> 0:54:03.840 four that we spoke about today, Mike, it's Jimmy Graham. 0:54:04.080 --> 0:54:06.239 For me, it's gonna Jimmy Graham as well. All right, well, 0:54:06.239 --> 0:54:08.080 we're all over the place. For me, it's Jimmy Graham 0:54:08.080 --> 0:54:10.520 as well. I think ultimately we can see Jared Cook, 0:54:10.600 --> 0:54:12.120 like Jimmy Graham might have a good game here and 0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:14.480 then there, he's gonna fall apart. The final gift, Mike Florio. 0:54:14.760 --> 0:54:20.680 He's headed to l A. It's where the King's from, Lebron. 0:54:21.160 --> 0:54:24.160 Thank you, guys for Mike Florio. Enjoy it all Florio. 0:54:24.640 --> 0:54:27.320 If a more gifts tomorrow and what should be the 0:54:28.360 --> 0:54:31.680 farewell Florio show. Almost to be back for the Power 0:54:31.680 --> 0:54:34.160 Hour coming up at five pm Eastern and you're not 0:54:34.160 --> 0:54:36.320 gonna want to miss that for my Florida, Frank Staffell. 0:54:36.480 --> 0:54:38.920 We'll do it all again tomorrow, we hope,