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Speaker 1: This this one Bills Live presented by Calda Health.

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Speaker 2: The heck are you on this Friday? Chris brown Seed

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Speaker 2: tasker with you. Welcome to a one Bill's Live Friday edition,

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Speaker 2: as we're here with you until three and getting you

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Speaker 2: ready for Bills Jets, the first time we're going to

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Speaker 2: have a one pm kickoff in almost two months. It's

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Speaker 2: been that long, Steve. I've kind of fired up for

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Speaker 2: a one pm kickof off myself. It kind of feels

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Speaker 2: like you're just getting back to the regular order.

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Speaker 3: Right right, Yes, And you've got the rest of the

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Speaker 3: day after the game. You know, you can kind of

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Speaker 3: take your time holiday weekend technically speak, kind of you know,

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Speaker 3: between Christmas, New Year's and even.

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Speaker 2: If you get stuck in the traffic after, it's not

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Speaker 2: the end of the world.

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Speaker 3: You get home, you can you can kind of You've

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Speaker 3: got some you can schedule the rest of your day.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to go home and get to bed

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Speaker 3: as fast as you can, right So, yeah, nice, I

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Speaker 3: am all about it, and the Jets are you know,

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Speaker 3: it's it's are a nice little component to it. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's not you know.

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Speaker 2: It's division game. This is kind of what the league

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Speaker 2: had in mind when they started scheduling division opponents at

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Speaker 2: the end and the beginning of the season. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if this was the intent they had planned for

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Speaker 2: concerning the AFC East per se becaus many as we know,

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Speaker 2: all the way back in September had the Jets and

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Speaker 2: Dolphins pegged as the AFC East champions one or the other.

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Speaker 3: And not only did they not become the AFC's champions,

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Speaker 3: the Bills had the division locked up in record time,

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Speaker 3: like was it week thirteen? Done?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Give or take right. I can't even I can't.

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Speaker 3: For stopping by yeah, I mean the Jets. I mean,

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Speaker 3: use the analogy. You won. They they were, they were

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Speaker 3: down in flames.

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Speaker 2: They did. I don't know what kind of Jets team

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Speaker 2: you're expecting on Sunday. Expect them to be a little

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Speaker 2: plucky just because they you know, there is an element

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Speaker 2: of disdain for them.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, they will be plucky. They will absolutely be plucked

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Speaker 3: for a period.

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Speaker 2: I think. I think if the Bills hang a few

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Speaker 2: touchdown drives on them earlier south quickly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when the teams did this area, when the going

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Speaker 3: gets tough, teams in this at this time of year,

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Speaker 3: when the going gets tough. The tough go to Cabo.

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Speaker 3: You know, I mean, I mean, you know what, because

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Speaker 3: let's face it, I'm I've said it time and time again. Yes,

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Speaker 3: there are some teams out there that will play hard

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Speaker 3: for their guy. The Jets have an interim head coach.

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Speaker 3: There's no way in God's green earth you will ever

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Speaker 3: convince me that this guy is going to be their

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Speaker 3: head coach next year. None of the guys on the

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Speaker 3: staff will probably or a vast majority of the guys

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Speaker 3: with maybe less than a handful of exceptions, will be

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Speaker 3: retained in a new staff. I mean, it's all see

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Speaker 3: you later, you know. Yeah, And I get I've listened

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Speaker 3: early in my career.

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Speaker 2: I was there. Man.

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Speaker 3: It was now not pretty.

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Speaker 2: Now what you saw last week between Jets and Rams.

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Speaker 2: It's a low scoring game. The Jets are still in

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Speaker 2: it late in that game because the Rams let them

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Speaker 2: hang around. You know, the Rams come to the East Coast,

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Speaker 2: they're playing a game at tend in the morning. You know,

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Speaker 2: they're a little off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as West Coast teams usually are.

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Speaker 2: It's a thing, and they let the Jets hang around,

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Speaker 2: so they think they got a chance, and you know

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Speaker 2: they're they're fighting them to the end. You don't want

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Speaker 2: to do that, right, put him to bed early.

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Speaker 3: It is the You do have the benefit of Josh.

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Speaker 2: And the crew can be wearing baseball hats in the

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Speaker 2: third quarter.

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Speaker 3: That's right. You do have the benefit of, you know,

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Speaker 3: having at a home game they are on the road.

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Speaker 3: That's a little bit of a plus. But man, o'many

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Speaker 3: the bill. You know, Sauce Gardner doesn't look like he's

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Speaker 3: gonna play no.

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Speaker 2: And two of their offensive linemen are nicked up, so

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Speaker 2: we already know Olu fashion who the left tackle who

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Speaker 2: gonna be Carter Warren or Max Mitchell. Then on the

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Speaker 2: right side of the line, Morgan Moses hasn't practiced much

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Speaker 2: this year, the starting right this week, the starting right tackle,

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Speaker 2: the starting right guard, Elijah Vera Tucker has been banged

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Speaker 2: up from last week's game. He hasn't done much. So

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Speaker 2: you could have three fifths of what's left of their

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Speaker 2: your point, Sauce Gardner on defense, Quinn Williams is dealing

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Speaker 3: Entry for the Jets is getting there Rodgers is five

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Speaker 3: hundred the touchdown pass and he needs one to do it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so there you go.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: first twelve thousand fans at high Mark Stadium at this

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Speaker 2: weekend's game. So get yourself in early and you can

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Speaker 2: get a beanie hat. It's got Team marking a Bill's

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Speaker 2: I don't know what you're gonna need them on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: You might need a rain hat instead.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you might need But you can use this as

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Speaker 3: a layer.

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Speaker 2: Use it as a layer.

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Speaker 3: It's nice. It's one of those real tight fitting ones. Yes,

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Speaker 3: So it'll be good now, and it's it's getting better

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Speaker 2: It might be fifty game fifty degrees now, so, which

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Speaker 2: is a whole lot better than thirty eight in rain.

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Speaker 2: Fifty in rain is a little more fifty.

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Speaker 3: And rain is rain. Yeah, thirty eight in rain is

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Speaker 3: too nasty to be outside.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to the Bill's practice updates, which are presented

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Speaker 2: head coach Sean McDermott earlier today said that they will

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Speaker 2: not rule anyone out for Sunday's game against the Jets.

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Speaker 2: Set to be listed as questionable later today. Cam Lewis,

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Speaker 2: DeMar Hamlin, and Taylor Rapp, all safeties, as well as

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Speaker 2: wide receiver Curtis Samuel. All four are going to be

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Speaker 2: limited in practice today, so they will all get the

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Speaker 2: to go for Sunday's game. That includes Matt Mulano, who

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Speaker 2: So it looks like those two will be able to

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Speaker 2: good news knowing how shorthanded they've been in their back

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it's gonna help. And plus it'll there'll be

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Speaker 3: enough time for them to get sharp for when, you know,

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Speaker 3: So it'll be that's a good thing, no question about it.

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Speaker 3: And uh, I you know, you got to spend everything positive.

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Speaker 3: This is kind of the way guys in the league are.

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Speaker 3: But this has been a really important, i think, stretch

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Speaker 3: Bob babbitte and all these guys, they got these games

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Speaker 3: and they're where they're they're shuffling players around. Babbie is

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Speaker 3: he's he's done more than held his own. This was

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Speaker 3: It'll help their third down defense, which has been which

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Speaker 2: Just to bring you up to speeding on exactly what

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Speaker 3: Last week, and we talked about it earlier in the week.

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Speaker 2: He is h He has established or re established, I

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Speaker 2: should say, the connection with DeVante Adams once again, they've

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Speaker 3: It's hard to poke holes in the career Baron Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: But one thing that I have that you could say

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Speaker 3: Certainly he found Devonte Adams, you know, and they and

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Speaker 7: Every week when I watch the Bills game, you know,

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Speaker 3: probably don't even know the score. Some of the some

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Speaker 3: of the lower down guys that the quality control guys,

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Speaker 3: they don't even know the score. They just say, hey,

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Speaker 3: we're here, we're doing that. They are, they are grinding

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Speaker 3: it up there in that booth, and they're trying to

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Speaker 3: give information that could be the difference between a successful

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Speaker 3: play and a and a catastrophic failure to the coordinators

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Speaker 3: on both sides of the ball. And when the side switch,

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Speaker 3: so do their responsibilities. Now they're starting to do it

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Speaker 3: the other way. Yeah, it's a It is an enormously

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Speaker 3: intricate communication exercise in those coaches booths, and Sean McDermott

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Speaker 3: listens in on it and chimes in, and also Bob

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Speaker 3: Babbage obviously he's he's busy as well. So and that's

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Speaker 3: why coaching and a lot of respects is one of

447
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Speaker 3: the last apprentice industries. You you almost every head coach

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Speaker 3: you talk to, they start as a quality control guy.

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Speaker 3: They start breaking down film, shart and place, breaking down film,

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Speaker 3: getting stats, running analytics, you know, bringing spreadsheets, doing all

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Speaker 3: that so you know the x's and o's and the

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Speaker 3: strategies and the nuances of how you call plays, how

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Speaker 3: you install game playing all that stuff. And then they

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Speaker 3: rise up and they become a position coach, and then

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Speaker 3: they become a different position coach. Then they become a

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Speaker 3: coordinator or a passing gamer, running game coordinator, or a

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Speaker 3: defensive secondary coordinator, passing game defense coordinator, that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 3: Then they go to the full coordinator and then they

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Speaker 3: try and get a head coaching job. It's you got

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Speaker 3: to come up from the ground up. And the guys

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Speaker 3: around those coordinators that are doing exactly what those coordinators

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Speaker 3: did on their way up, and the way Sean McDermott

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Speaker 3: did it, and the way you know Ulbrich did it,

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Speaker 3: and Robert Salah and all these guys, that's the way

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Speaker 3: they did it. That's the way they did it, and

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Speaker 3: it's pretty fascinating to watch those guys work and do that.

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Speaker 2: The bills right now are projected to be about nine

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Speaker 2: million in change under the cap. That can obviously be

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Speaker 2: changed due to salary cap casualties saw last year, and

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Speaker 2: there is an out in von Miller's contract for twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five that would ease the dead cap burden that

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Speaker 2: he would put on the Bills books, so they can

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Speaker 2: get out from under the contract this coming off season.

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Speaker 2: They would still incur dead cap of somewhere around fifteen million,

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Speaker 2: but there is a way to get out from under it.

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Speaker 2: To make a long story short, that number is a

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Speaker 2: moving target and will continue to move with each decision

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Speaker 2: that they make with their roster in terms of who

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Speaker 2: is on it and who is not, much like we

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Speaker 2: saw last offseason, and knowing that they're going to have

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Speaker 2: to get some young core players signed up here long

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Speaker 2: term in short order, Greg Russeau, Christian Benford, Terrell, Bernard,

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Speaker 2: James Cook, players of that ilk, they're gonna have to

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Speaker 2: make some decisions with some veteran players like von Miller.

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Speaker 2: To your point, let's go to Tom on the West Side.

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Speaker 2: We got first time You're home on Bill's Life.

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Speaker 8: Good afternoon, guys, I have I've had her quite some

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Speaker 8: time now. I have a Paul Pozlusny jersey number fifty one.

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Speaker 8: It's an away jersey. It's light, and I very seldom

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Speaker 8: wear it because it seems like every time I do

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Speaker 8: wear it, the bills lose. Now, I was of such

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Speaker 8: that pos Losney left and I put the jersey away

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Speaker 8: for a while, and then I pulled it out when

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Speaker 8: we played Jacksonville and Jacksonville beat us. I think that

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Speaker 8: was a six to nine game. Anyway, I'm wondering should

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Speaker 8: I let that jersey hang on a on a hangar

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Speaker 8: in my room where it's been all season, or should

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Speaker 8: I be allowed to wear it at least for an

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Speaker 8: away game.

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Speaker 3: Tom, I would go to the gas station, get a

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Speaker 3: five gallon bucket of gas, douse that jersey and burn

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Speaker 3: it doesn't sounds like very lucky, and then you know,

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Speaker 3: and then burn it again. Take the ashes, grind them

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Speaker 3: up and burn them again.

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Speaker 2: There you go, and then that's where. That's where we'll

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Speaker 2: leave it, I guess. I mean, Tom, it seems like

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Speaker 2: you've established that it is not a very lucky jersey,

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Speaker 2: So to go down that path again I think would

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Speaker 2: be inviting bad luck.

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Speaker 3: You're inviting disaster. Yeah, and then go spread the ashes

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Speaker 3: over I don't know. Yeah, go spread the ashes over

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Speaker 3: another fire, having fun with that one. Yeah, yeah that. No,

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Speaker 3: do not wear that jersey, Say goodbye to that jersey

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Speaker 3: and shred it. Take the pieces and burn them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We have to take a break here. When we come back,

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Speaker 2: we'll present to you this week's collision course and take

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Speaker 2: more of your phone calls on an obl Friday fan

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Speaker 2: Mailbag edition of One Bills Live, presented by Coalida Health,

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. This week's Collision Course is brought

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Speaker 2: to you by who Else Gabe's Collision. Gabe's Collision, the

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00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 2: official auto collision repair center of the Buffalo Bills. Get

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Speaker 2: back in the game, and this week it's the Bills

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Speaker 2: offensive line against the Jets defensive line. Jets miraculously this

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Speaker 2: season despite their four and eleven record, still sixth in

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Speaker 2: total defense, sixteenth against the run, fifth against the pass,

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Speaker 2: and fifteenth in the league in points allowed, so seventh

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Speaker 2: in sacks per pass play. Will McDonald, second year player

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Speaker 2: out of Iowa State, has had a nice season for them.

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Speaker 2: He's already at ten sacks on the year, and Hassan

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Speaker 2: Reddick is a new element. Steve he was not yet

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Speaker 2: returned to the club back in week six, finally ended

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Speaker 2: his holdout and reported to the team he has half

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Speaker 2: a sack in eight game appearances. Well, what say you

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Speaker 2: about this matchup where we know the animosity clearly lies

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Speaker 2: between Dion Dawkins and one Michael Clements.

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Speaker 3: I would say look for a scuffle here or there,

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Speaker 3: but the Bills will undoubtedly come out and try and

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Speaker 3: establish a physical presence. They would love nothing more than

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Speaker 3: to beat the Jets and Josh Allen having four pass

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Speaker 3: attempts or less.

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Speaker 2: Let's not forget how the first drive started in week six,

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Speaker 2: No James Cook Ray Davis eight runs on a nine

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Speaker 2: play scoring drive to open the game. Remember he flattened

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Speaker 2: Sauce Gardner bild.

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Speaker 3: Sauce is a good cover guy, not so much in

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Speaker 3: the in the tackling end of it. That was you know,

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Speaker 3: the Bills win at twenty three to twenty. Remember that

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Speaker 3: was a really tight game in New York.

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Speaker 9: It was.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm that is it. I mean, I think

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Speaker 3: this offensive line is going to have a chance to flex.

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Speaker 3: I think probably you can bet Deon Dawkins has made

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Speaker 3: it known that he would love to do that, and

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Speaker 3: I'm sure that they went to the offen they told

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Speaker 3: Joe Brady said, listen, let's go. We want to try

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Speaker 3: that again. Let's do it. It is the one thing

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Speaker 3: that the Jets do well in my opinions, play up

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Speaker 3: front defensively, and if you take that away from him,

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Speaker 3: they're they're going to be crippled.

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Speaker 2: I have to keep an eye on Quinn Williams availability.

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Speaker 2: He is the lynchpin of that defensive front and he

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Speaker 2: is dealing with a hamstring injury, has been limited in

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Speaker 2: practice all week, so curious to see if he does

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Speaker 2: dress what level of effectiveness he has with the hamstring ailment.

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Speaker 2: So that is collision course brought to you by Gabs Colli.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones. At eight h three

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Speaker 2: oh five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two, five

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Speaker 2: fifty the number to get on board, and we do

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Speaker 2: have open lines for you, and we lead off with

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Speaker 2: Joe in Amherst.

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Speaker 10: What do you got for us, Joe, good afternoon. My

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Speaker 10: call is to make a case for number twenty three

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Speaker 10: to play on Sunday. I have six points and here's why.

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Speaker 10: Number one, number twenty three, former All Pro safety number

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Speaker 10: two Mike has more experience than all the other safeties

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Speaker 10: on the team combined. Number three, you fit to play,

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Speaker 10: no injury designation. Number four, I don't believe he came

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Speaker 10: back to stand on the sidelines and cheerlead. Number five.

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Speaker 10: The Bills are all about team and no one should

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Speaker 10: have their feelings hurt. And most importantly, number six, the

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Speaker 10: goal is to win the Super Bowl. There are no

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Speaker 10: points for second place. I rest my case. Have a

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Speaker 10: great day, guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks Joe, well thought out argument. I would

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Speaker 2: tend to agree with many of those, but number four

587
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Speaker 2: is the one I may have an issue with, which

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Speaker 2: is he did not come here to cheerlead. I think

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Speaker 2: one of the main reasons he's here is to serve

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Speaker 2: as a mentor to Cole Bishop, and I think we

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Speaker 2: need to remember this is a player who underwent next surgery.

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Speaker 2: So I don't think this man plays unless there is

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Speaker 2: an absolute fire storm, five alarm fire at the safety position.

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Speaker 2: And I realize there are three players on the injury

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Speaker 2: report right now that are going to be listed as

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Speaker 2: questionable at the safety position. That's still not enough to

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Speaker 2: put him on the field.

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Speaker 3: That's right, he may want to play, but I don't

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Speaker 3: think the Bills. I think he knows full well, and

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Speaker 3: I think the Bills made it clear to him. He's

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Speaker 3: not here to play. He's here to help others play well.

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Speaker 3: And I think he signed up for that. I think

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Speaker 3: he knows he did. I think he wants to be

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Speaker 3: a part of it. I think he sees this group

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Speaker 3: as a group that could be special. He wanted to

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Speaker 3: be a part of it. If this club does, think

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Speaker 3: about it, if this club does go to and have

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Speaker 3: all their hopes and dreams come true, the guy he's

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Speaker 3: going to get a ring out of it. He's here

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Speaker 3: to help him do that. Not on the field, former

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Speaker 3: all Pro. The emphasis there is on former. The guy

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Speaker 3: has struggled to stay healthy his last couple of years

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Speaker 3: with the Bills on the active roster as a starter.

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Speaker 3: It's not going to be much easier to stay healthy now,

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Speaker 3: even in a one game series.

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Speaker 2: You're you know, especially when you haven't played no over

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Speaker 2: a calendar year on that.

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Speaker 3: That's right. So I think the reason Michah Hyde is

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Speaker 3: here is for your point number six to help this

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Speaker 3: team and the guys out there to win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: He wants to help him get there and play well

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Speaker 3: enough to get there. That's why he's here, so I

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Speaker 3: get it, you'd love to see it. I would say this,

624
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 3: don't take for granted that the Bills are finger quotes

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00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 3: settling for the guys they are playing at safety. I

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Speaker 3: think they like their guys, right, I think they're like

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Speaker 3: their guys and they also and I don't think it's

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Speaker 3: any I don't think it was just coach speak that

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Speaker 3: McDermott was saying today how impressed he was with how

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Speaker 3: far Cole Bishop has come. He has grown, and they

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Speaker 3: are very happy with his progress, although it's happening at

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Speaker 3: a little faster rate and they're finding out about a

633
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 3: little faster than I thought they thought they would. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't think they don't think they've got the best

635
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 3: options on the field already.

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Speaker 2: And look, people always fall victim to this, especially when

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Speaker 2: a player comes back to a team where they had

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Speaker 2: great success. You get disillusioned by what you remember that

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00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: player being. And I think if you know going in

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00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: what the intent of his presence here is, that will

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00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: kind of remove the veil of what you think he

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00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 2: can be for this team. And I think he is

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00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 2: best served for this team, at least in the eyes

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00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: of the front office, and probably of Micah himself to

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00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 2: be a mentor for the players that are playing and

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00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: to help them better understand this defensive scheme, which to

647
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 2: some of them is very new. And that's where he

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00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 2: is serving this team and helping them win most. That's

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Speaker 2: kind of his role. Now, I really don't think it

650
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: is to play in any capacity. Let's go back to

651
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 2: the phones and to who's been waiting the longest year.

652
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Speaker 2: We got to go to Glenn up in New Fane.

653
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Speaker 2: What's up Glenn?

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys, Happy holidays to you. Sure just got to

655
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Speaker 5: comment and a question. The one guy while I was

656
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 5: on hold was talking about the uniforms, and then I'm

657
00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 5: looking in my closet. I got twelve bills Jersey. I

658
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 5: like to keep some of the older ones, like Spikes

659
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 5: is one of my favorite guys, so I will never

660
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 5: get rid of that. Always try to keep a red,

661
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 5: blue and a white active player, so I'm matching the color.

662
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 5: I got my forty two Williams out for Sunday. The

663
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 5: I only burned one one time, and I can't remember

664
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Speaker 5: exactly who the player was out in the parking lot

665
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Speaker 5: after it was a disgusting, you know, last second loss.

666
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Speaker 2: Oh boy, and.

667
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Speaker 5: It's always embarrassing when you're the guy one of the

668
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Speaker 5: guys wearing his jersey, and then people in the crowd

669
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Speaker 5: are like, I didn't drop the ball, you dumb, you

670
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 5: know so, and so don't blame me. So I burned it.

671
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Speaker 5: And I get home and I tell my then wife

672
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Speaker 5: I burned my whatever jersey, and then she was mad

673
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 5: because her sister had given it to me for Christmas.

674
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Speaker 5: So then I never heard the end of that. But

675
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 5: my McGahee I'm looking at right now and uh no, McGee,

676
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 5: wait a minute, I'm looking I have McGahee too. But

677
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 5: here's McGhee, who I hear is the legend of the game.

678
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Speaker 3: Will be the legend of the game. He'll be the

679
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Speaker 3: legend of the game.

680
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 5: Ran into him at the Atlanta Airport on my way

681
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 5: down the Florida the one time, and I came over

682
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 5: to him and I said, hey, are you team McGee?

683
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 5: And I'm all excited, you know, because I love the

684
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 5: Bills And he like looks at me, like suspiciously, and

685
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 5: it was not a good thing. I go, hey, yeah,

686
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 5: Bills man, and then he really he smiled and realized, yeah,

687
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 5: this guy's not here to attack me or borrow money

688
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 5: or whatever. Steve, I had a question for you regarding

689
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 5: this time of year. You know, we're playing teams that

690
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 5: are non playoff teams and divisional teams. Did you, guys

691
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 5: ever have a time when that you can remember? I

692
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 5: know it was like it feels like it was one

693
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 5: hundred years ago, but the where you were like worried

694
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 5: about maybe just guys like just trying to injure players,

695
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 5: you know, from the other team coming after your guys

696
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 5: from maybe a game earlier in the season, like a

697
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 5: grudge thing.

698
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Speaker 3: No, there's very little of that that goes on in

699
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 3: the NFL. Uh, nobody to mind. Almost never will you

700
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 3: see a guy do something this attempt to injury. Once

701
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 3: in a while a guy goes off as rocker, But no,

702
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 3: because retaliation is a real thing and you can't get

703
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 3: away with it. Whatever you do on the field during

704
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 3: a game is filmed and is studied by every other

705
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 3: team in the league. So if you're gonna do something

706
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 3: like that, everybody in the whole league is going to

707
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 3: know you're that kind of guy. Nobody wants that on

708
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 3: their on their resume. And and if and believe me,

709
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 3: if you you can run, but you can't hide because

710
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 3: if you ever see that team again, or anybody on

711
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 3: that team again, you got you'll be looking over your

712
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,959
Speaker 3: shoulder the entire time you're on the field. So, yeah,

713
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 3: it's very little of that goes on. Now. Certainly, they'll

714
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 3: hit you as hard as they possibly can, and they

715
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 3: don't you know, they'll hit your heart, they'll try and

716
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 3: knock your head off your torso with a clean hit,

717
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 3: but they're not going to come up behind you or

718
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 3: do any of that stuff or any of that. Very

719
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 3: little of that goes on in the NFL. Very little.

720
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we move on to Mark in Rochester. What do

721
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 2: you got for us? Mark?

722
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Speaker 11: Oh, guys, first time caller, love the show. I'm calling

723
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Speaker 11: because I.

724
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Speaker 12: Need to have a solution, Okay, So forgive.

725
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 11: Me Bill's Mafia for I have sinned. I needed a

726
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 11: new golf bag, so I took advantage of Black Friday

727
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 11: sale at the local store of the Big Sporting Goods

728
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 11: branch and bought a bag that I'd like the colors

729
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 11: with silver and blue and red, and my wife, my

730
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 11: wife wrapped it up and gave it to me for Christmas.

731
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Speaker 11: I use it the first time this morning to go

732
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Speaker 11: to the driving range. And I'm putting my clubs in

733
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 11: the new bag, I realize I found this tiny little

734
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 11: one by one inch decal that said Patriots, and I

735
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 11: realized these are the Patriots colors and the Patriots logo.

736
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Speaker 11: And fortunately I called the store and they have graciously said, yes,

737
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 11: that I can come back and exchange the golf bag

738
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Speaker 11: for a different one. But forgive me for I have sinned.

739
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 2: Yes, well, we we appreciate you coming forward and being

740
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: so upfront and honest that you get credit for that.

741
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: Mark.

742
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 2: Uh. And you know you've recognized the error of your ways,

743
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 2: which I think is most important here.

744
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 3: So your penance is to find an old putter and

745
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 3: snap it over your knee though.

746
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yes, thanks for coming.

747
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 3: Please sacrifice, sacrifice an old putter, and you you will

748
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 3: receive your absolution. Yeah, we have spoken.

749
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 11: And then just for posterity, go Bill, go Bils.

750
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 2: Yes, uh, Mark did not. Sometimes those pictures on those

751
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 2: online ads can be deceiving, you know, but imagine his

752
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 2: horror when he what a patriot.

753
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

754
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: The worst part is he doesn't notice it till he's

755
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 2: at the range. Now the bag is sitting there and

756
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 2: he's got to be like, oh God, let me not

757
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 2: run into anybody I know. Please don't let me run

758
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 2: into everybody I know. That's amazing, that's uh yeah, well

759
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: he made it right though, and that's that's what counts.

760
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: We go now to I know we're up against the break,

762
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: so we got to step aside here. But when we

763
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Speaker 2: come back, Chuck and Hamburg will be first up, followed

764
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Speaker 2: by Mark in Tanawanda and others, holding at eight oh

765
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Speaker 2: three five point fifty on this OBL Friday Fan mail

766
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Speaker 2: Bag edition to one Bill's Live Stay with Us. Time

767
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768
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769
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Speaker 2: Dragon Snapdragon Apples, or the ultimate addition to your game

770
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771
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772
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773
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774
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Speaker 2: spiced filling which I just sampled here before we came

775
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776
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777
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Speaker 2: cups delivers sweet flavors in every bite. You can find

778
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779
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Speaker 2: Join the pregame fund stop by the Billivard this Sunday

780
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781
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782
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783
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784
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785
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Speaker 2: Just try this thing, creamy sweet cinnamony, if that's even

786
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 2: an adjective. It's pretty good. Yeah, and you don't have

787
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 2: to bake them. We kind of set him up in

788
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 2: a little martini glass here. Excellent presentation this week. Well

789
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 2: done everyone, very nice and thank you to the good

790
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 2: people at Snapdragon Apples for providing that. This week we

791
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: do have to get back to the phone calls. Ato

792
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 2: three five fifty and as promised, we lead off with

793
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Speaker 2: Chuck in Hamburg.

794
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 7: What do you got for us, Chuck, Chris Steve, I

795
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 7: have a question for you about Micah Hyde.

796
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 9: Sure if you don't believe that he's.

797
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 6: Going to get any game time action to get him

798
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 6: back up the speed.

799
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Speaker 10: Why didn't they just bring him back as an assistant

800
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 10: coach and open up the spot on the prep the score?

801
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's an option. They chose to do

802
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: it this way. Why, I am not sure. It's it's

803
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: on the practice squad. You got a sixteen player squad

804
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 2: there so, and they already have two other safeties on

805
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: the practice squad already, and Lewis Seen and Kareem Jackson

806
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 2: who's been called up each of the last two weeks

807
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 2: as a practice squad.

808
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Speaker 3: I wish I would I would guess, And this is

809
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 3: just a guess I would guess because that's the option

810
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 3: Micah wanted to take. They probably, you know, I mean,

811
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Speaker 3: if they wanted him back in the building, wanted to

812
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 3: hire him as a coach, it would have been a

813
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 3: different I think Micah likes the player. He's used to

814
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 3: the player's schedule, wants to be with the player schedule,

815
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 3: wants to stay with the player schedule like he has

816
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 3: his whole career. He's comfortable there, and if he was

817
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 3: with the coaches and stuff, he wouldn't be in the

818
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 3: locker room, he would be detached. He would be somewhere

819
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 3: in an office doing stuff. So I think he wanted

820
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 3: it this. If they wanted him to come back, he

821
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 3: probably said, and I'll come back, but you put me

822
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 3: on practice squad and I'll do this, and they said, okay,

823
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 3: let's do it.

824
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 2: He has said in the past too, he has no

825
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: interest in becoming a coach. Now that could obviously change.

826
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: But knowing that too, if you go on that premise,

827
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 2: maybe understand why you chose to go this route instead.

828
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 2: And the bills accommodated him. So there you have it.

829
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Speaker 2: To Mark in Tonawanda, what's up, Mark.

830
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Speaker 13: Hey, Mary, Christmas to you Bold, it's been a while.

831
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Speaker 13: I hope you guys had a great holiday with your family.

832
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 2: Thanks to you too.

833
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 13: I'm just really concerned about this defense and going into

834
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 13: this week. I think the pressure should be on McDermott

835
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 13: and Babbage to figure this out. You're not getting the

836
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 13: production out of von Miller, who's been two years out

837
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 13: of his h his injury, recovering Milano and Oliver, especially

838
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 13: in aj F Panessa. These guys better step up come

839
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 13: playoff time. They're terrible. It was the offense that was

840
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 13: supposed to regress, and it's in the defense. Sean mc turmas,

841
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 13: the defensive minded coach. I mean, that's his background, that's

842
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 13: you know, he really has to take it to another level.

843
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 13: I wish it was Bernard saying, you know, like Josh

844
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 13: Allen said last week, that we've been holding back, you know,

845
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 13: for these teams because I mean, I just think they're

846
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 13: gonna they're in for a root awakening. If you can't

847
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 13: stop guys like Drake May and this Patriots offense that

848
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 13: was terrible up until they played us, you're gonna go

849
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 13: into Arrowhead and win. You're gonna play Baltimore, and I

850
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 13: just think Josh Allen's been covering up a lot of

851
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 13: these defensive woes and McDermott and Babbage are kind of

852
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 13: getting a pass. They're giving up a ton of points,

853
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 13: and that's my worry.

854
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 9: I don't have to listen to you guys.

855
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 13: Thanks for having me on yep your thing.

856
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: I think we all know that the calling card for

857
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 2: this defense this year has been takeaways, and they've done

858
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: an excellent job of that. And that, coupled with the

859
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 2: offense's ability to have the fewest takeaways in the league,

860
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 2: has led to the best turnover margin in football at

861
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 2: plus twenty. But hanging your hat on takeaways can be

862
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 2: a dangerous game, especially when you get to the postseason

863
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 2: and you're playing offenses that have not made a habit

864
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 2: of turning the ball over. It's one of the reasons

865
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 2: they're there, so you need something else. And for most

866
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 2: of the season, the other thing that they did very

867
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 2: well was tighten up in the red zone and force

868
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 2: field goals. That is even fallen by the wayside in

869
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 2: recent weeks playing some high powered offenses, granted in the

870
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 2: Rams and the Lions, and short handed at that in

871
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 2: the secondary. Chiefly, I think they have to get better

872
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 2: at defending the red zone again, much like they were

873
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 2: for most of the season. If they tighten that up,

874
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: that's step one, and then I think step two is

875
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 2: to your point about the pass rush. You gotta get

876
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 2: off the field better on third down. It has been

877
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 2: a persistent problem all season. The numbers bear that out

878
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 2: because the Bills right now on the year twenty ninth

879
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 2: in the league in third down defense. Gotta get off

880
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 2: the field better on third down. You do that by

881
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: creating long down in distant situations and then letting your

882
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 2: pass rush get home. It does have to be better.

883
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 2: I don't think we can disagree with you for a second.

884
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 3: Mark and I'll yeah, and you're right in one respect.

885
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 3: The offense was supposed to beat take a step back

886
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 3: this year because of all the changeover on the outside,

887
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 3: all the receivers and that kind of thing. But don't

888
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 3: forget it was also the defense. They had a huge

889
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 3: both safeties gone, the defensive line gone refurbished, So it

890
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 3: both sides that and that's why the Bills were picked

891
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 3: to be third in the division. They had all these

892
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 3: question marks coming into the season. What Sean McDermott and

893
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 3: to your I will take you know, I'll push back

894
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 3: on you about Sean McDermott defensive mind and all this

895
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 3: and getting it straightened out. The Bills are maximizing the

896
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 3: guys they have on the roster and the way they're

897
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 3: playing now and coming up with a recipe that wins games.

898
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 3: They are winning games with the guys they have on

899
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 3: this roster and the way they're playing now. This team.

900
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 3: Don't don't compare this team to last year Bills team

901
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 3: or this year's Jet team or this year's Patriot team.

902
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 3: This is this year's Bills team. There's a recipe that

903
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 3: works for this team, and it starts, obviously with an

904
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 3: MVP caliber quarterback, a lot of weapons offensively, and a

905
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 3: really good offensive line that moves people in a great

906
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 3: stable of running backs, tight ends, and wide receivers who

907
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 3: all contribute. So that's their recipe Offensively. Defensively, they have

908
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 3: to have some help from the offense, no question about it.

909
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 3: This offense is a racehorse that is galloping. This defense

910
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 3: gets a lot of benefit from that. And the recipe is,

911
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 3: get some turnovers, just get some stops any way you can.

912
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 3: And as we've said consistently, it's been turnovers that have

913
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 3: been getting the stops, and that's just too much for

914
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 3: teams to beat because the Bills score too regularly, and

915
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 3: the Bills get too many stops either on third or

916
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 3: fourth down or with the turnover, and they really tough

917
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 3: in the red zone. So you got to settle for

918
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 3: three points and not get a field goal, and you

919
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,959
Speaker 3: can't keep up that way. That's the recipe for this team,

920
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 3: and the guys on the team are being utilized by

921
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 3: this coaching staff as best they can in the best

922
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 3: way possible to work that recipe because that's where this

923
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 3: team is good. That's how this team is gonna have success.

924
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 3: That's what a coaching staff's done. You don't need to

925
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 3: Sean McDermott is not gonna walk in and put down

926
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 3: a game plan that is magically gonna make Ed Oliver

927
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 3: and Jordan Phillips and von Miller the best they've ever been.

928
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 3: It's just not gonna happen. That's not gonna happen. They're

929
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 3: getting them, they're getting out of them what they're getting

930
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 3: out of them, and they're using it as best they

931
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 3: can to win games. And they're crafting game plans that

932
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 3: accentuate what they can do and what they do have

933
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 3: to work with. That's what the coaching staff's job is.

934
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 3: The roster set. Brandon Bean sets the roster, yet you've

935
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 3: got to maximize it once they're in the building and go.

936
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 3: And that's what this builds coaching staff to the tune

937
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 3: of thirteen wins is done.

938
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:06,760
Speaker 2: And twelve wins right, so hopefully thirteen And just to

939
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 2: underline another point, as concerned as Bills fans were about

940
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 2: the back to back games in which they gave up

941
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 2: forty points respectively to the Rams and the Lions. Even

942
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 2: after all of that, the Bills are eleventh in the

943
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 2: league in points allowed. That's better than the Ravens, who

944
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 2: are nineteenth in the league in points allowed, and it's

945
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 2: right behind Houston. Ninth in the league in points allowed

946
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 2: are the Houston Texans. So look, are you gonna measure

947
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 2: up to Kansas City's defense? No, you're not as gifted

948
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 2: tent and you're not as talented. I think that's fair

949
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 2: to say. But despite all of the shortcomings of this defense,

950
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 2: they're eleventh in points allowed. They're almost top ten in

951
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 2: points allowed, and points is the thing, as we know,

952
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: so I believe if they tighten up in the red

953
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 2: zone much like they did in the first half of

954
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 2: the season, if they can get back to that once

955
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,439
Speaker 2: they're healthy again, that should be enough to go really

956
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 2: far in the playoffs this year with the offense. To

957
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 2: Steve's point, gotta take a break here. When we come back,

958
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 2: we're gonna get a visit as we do every Friday,

959
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 2: from senior producer from NFL Films, Greg Cosell. We'll catch

960
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 2: up with him next to Talk Bill's jets here on

961
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live.

962
00:53:17,960 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: Stay with us, The One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

963
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 2: All Right, here we are our number two on a Friday,

964
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 2: and please to be joined now by senior producer from

965
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 2: NFL Films and also co hosts of the ESPN's NFL

966
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 2: Matchup show, Grey co Sell, joining us, whose weekly segment

967
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 2: is presented by Scott Lonyard, an official commercial site work

968
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 2: partner of the Buffalo Bills. All Right, Greg, not a

969
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 2: super sexy divisional matchup that the league schedule makers probably

970
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 2: thought it would be in week seventeen at the beginning

971
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 2: of the season or when they put the schedule together

972
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 2: in May. But here we are, and there is something

973
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 2: on the line for the Bills this week. They need

974
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 2: to win to nail down the two seeds, so I

975
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 2: would anticipate we're gonna get the full complement of effort

976
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 2: from the Bills to try to just put this thing

977
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 2: to bed and give their team a pseudo by next week.

978
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 4: Brownie, I need to tell you, since you do the

979
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 4: games and I assume you talk to people, what they

980
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 4: the heck's going on with this defense? I mean, all

981
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 4: of a sudden, I'm seeing cover one in pressure. Where

982
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 4: did all this come from? Because that's what they did

983
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 4: last week against the Patriots. That's not what they normally do.

984
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 4: I mean, was that specific to the Patriots or are

985
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 4: we seeing a little bit.

986
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 2: Of a same change.

987
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 3: I think we're seeing. I think that was specific to

988
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 3: the Patriots and the fact that the Bills needed to

989
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 3: win one game down the stretch or or a couple

990
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 3: of games down the stretch to get the two seed.

991
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 3: I think they were I think their game plan was

992
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 3: affected by the fact that they're counting on being able

993
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 3: to win one of their next two games and get

994
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,240
Speaker 3: the two seed, and they don't want to show anything

995
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 3: down the stretch.

996
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,919
Speaker 2: I also think greg that there was an element of

997
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:48,720
Speaker 2: communication issues in the zone defense calls with four backup

998
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 2: players in starting roles in the back seven, and I

999
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 2: think they had to resort to more man to man calls,

1000
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 2: which requires, as you know, less communication, and they just

1001
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 2: had to try their hand at that to get more

1002
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 2: sound execution with so many backup players playing on the

1003
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 2: back end.

1004
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 4: That's a great point, and given who they were playing against,

1005
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 4: because there's not really a big time receiver on the

1006
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 4: Patriots right that you have to worry about, you know,

1007
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 4: the way you worry about others. Let's say, then, that

1008
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 4: that makes sense. That's a good point, Brownie, But yeah,

1009
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 4: that was one of the first things I noticed. I'm

1010
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 4: watching that tape and I'm going, whoa, there's pressure, there's

1011
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 4: man coverage. This is not normally what I see from

1012
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 4: the Bills defense.

1013
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 2: Right, and it is part of the reason that you know,

1014
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 2: some players like Kyrie Elam have trouble getting on the

1015
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: field and playing meaningful snaps. His strength is man coverage.

1016
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 2: And then in zone you know, in zone coverage, he

1017
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 2: along with a you know, a rookie safety trying to

1018
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 2: communicate to him, and Cole Bishop along with Cam Lewis,

1019
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 2: who's kind of a Swiss Army knife player playing safety

1020
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 2: as well. I think they felt the comment activity of

1021
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 2: that group was compromised to some degree in zone covers,

1022
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:05,240
Speaker 2: so they went more.

1023
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 4: Man's that's that's very ballid. And now that you've said it,

1024
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 4: you know, that makes absolute perfect sense. And so we'll

1025
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 4: see we should Douglas be back this week.

1026
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 2: Looks like Douglas is back this week, as well as

1027
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 2: Milano and Hamlin, cam Lewis, Taylor Rap all questionable for

1028
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 2: Sunday's game. I would imagine that may at least one

1029
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 2: of those three will be back, maybe more, we'll see.

1030
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 2: They've all been me.

1031
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 4: Ask you a question, if by chance, things were to

1032
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 4: take a turn for the worst and none of them

1033
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 4: could play, who would play safety with Bishop?

1034
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 2: It would probably be Kareem Jackson, who was the practice

1035
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 2: squad last.

1036
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 3: Week game, right, Yeah, he was out there, and he

1037
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 3: was active in the last couple of games. So yeah, it's

1038
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 3: it's a mash unit in the back end. And I

1039
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 3: think there is something to the fact Josh alluded to

1040
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 3: it offense of Lee at least, that they were trying

1041
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 3: to beat the Patriots a little bit left handed.

1042
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 4: I did, and that stood out by the way. That

1043
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 4: stood out to me. It was not a really good

1044
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 4: offensive performance. But I think they probably I'm not saying

1045
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 4: they wanted it not to be a good one, but

1046
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 4: I think they probably had a sense that they could

1047
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 4: win the game without a great you know, without showing

1048
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 4: the cool stuff that they've shown, you know, more of

1049
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 4: in recent weeks.

1050
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they were going to try and lean

1051
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 3: on the fact that they had better personnel and think

1052
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 3: that that would outdistance the Patriots over four quarters. They

1053
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 3: didn't give them much help with concepts.

1054
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 2: Now, to mention the fact that they play him in

1055
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 2: two weeks anyway.

1056
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 14: Yeah, well, it's a good thing they were able to

1057
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 14: pull that one out.

1058
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 4: But your point, Brownie about the you know, in the

1059
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 4: safety position is interesting, you know. But but Steve, I mean,

1060
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 4: where's Markkelso when.

1061
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 14: You need him?

1062
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right, you need just somebody, right, that's right,

1063
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 3: that's right. Listen to people now we're gonna call it.

1064
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 3: We've gotten calls today, and our listeners will know we've

1065
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 3: gotten calls today about the you know, Micah hides on

1066
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 3: the practice squad. People are clamoring, right, some stability back

1067
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 3: there because you know, there's just guys back there they

1068
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 3: don't know sure.

1069
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Speaker 4: And that's why Brownie's points such a good one because

1070
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Speaker 4: you know, it's funny you mentioned that, Brownie, because when

1071
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 4: I watch college tape and see you know, corners and safeties,

1072
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 4: that's one of the things I really try to get

1073
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 4: a feel for is just how they they read routes,

1074
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 4: how they react in the back end when they're playing zone,

1075
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 4: because particularly with corners, you can see guys play press

1076
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 4: or play man. That's that's an easier thing to evaluate,

1077
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 4: but the tougher thing to really get a feel for

1078
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 4: and is so so important obviously in the NFL with

1079
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 4: so many sort of hybrid coverages and zone man's and

1080
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 4: zone match and all that is how guys play zone coverage.

1081
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 14: That's hard.

1082
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the and the task becomes more more trying

1083
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 2: this week with you know, Garrett Wilson and DeVante Adams,

1084
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 2: and it appears if the Jets have one thing going

1085
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 2: for them in the passing game, it's the connection between

1086
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 2: Rogers and Adams. He's now got seven touchdowns in eight

1087
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 2: games with the Jets.

1088
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, when it's clear that he's sort of, you know,

1089
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 4: rebuilt that connection now that Adams has been there for

1090
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 4: quite some time, whereas the the Rogers Wilson connection is

1091
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 4: not really there or it doesn't appear to be on tape.

1092
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 4: You know, we're not there. So I don't know what

1093
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 4: it's like, you know, day to day, but just watching

1094
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 4: the games, it's certainly not the same connection as Rogers

1095
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 4: to Adams.

1096
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 3: Well, I was saying this earlier. I think one of

1097
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 3: the things that if you're gonna it's there's not many

1098
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 3: holes to poke in Rogers' career, but his I don't

1099
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 3: know whether it's inability or he never got a chance

1100
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 3: to prove that he could do it with a bunch

1101
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 3: of wide receivers or guys. He always had a guy like,

1102
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 3: you know, like a Jordy Nelson or Davante Adams or

1103
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 3: one of those guys. And certainly notoriously in Green Bay

1104
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 3: never had the first round wide receiver, but he still

1105
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 3: had some pretty good guys. But wherever and now, when

1106
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 3: when he was in even when he was in Green Bay,

1107
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 3: and even when he was had just moved to New York,

1108
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 3: he wanted guys he chose as wide receivers. He never

1109
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 3: really trusted anybody else to pick his wide receiving corps.

1110
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's funny you say that, because I

1111
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 4: remember a coach telling me, and this relates to Aaron Rodgers,

1112
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 4: but he was talking about Peyton Manning. But it's the

1113
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 4: same thing telling me that when you get you know,

1114
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 4: Peyton Manning late in his career, like when he went

1115
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 4: to Denver and Aaron Rodgers now with the Jets, is

1116
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 4: you're not running your offense. You're running their offense, right,

1117
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 4: and you're running what they feel comfortable with and who

1118
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,439
Speaker 4: they want to throw it to. And I'm sure that's

1119
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 4: the case with Aaron Rodgers. You know, you want him

1120
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 4: to be as comfortable as possible, and my sense is

1121
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 4: throughout early part of this season and even there are

1122
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 4: times even more recently watching the tape that I just

1123
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 4: don't feel like he's an overly comfortable player. He misses

1124
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 4: throws with poor ball location that we've never seen him

1125
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 4: miss in his career, because that was an absolute strength

1126
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 4: of his game. His just precise ball placement was off

1127
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 4: the charts. It's one of the things that made him

1128
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 4: so special all through the years. You know, there are

1129
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 4: many things that made it especial, obviously, and that's why

1130
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 4: he'll be a first ballot Hall of Famer. But you know,

1131
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 4: it just seems that to me, guys, he's missed some

1132
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 4: throws that I just you know, I'm surprised that he misses,

1133
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, he's he hasn't. That's not something

1134
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 4: we're used to seeing.

1135
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, and this is something that

1136
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 3: maybe goes a little deeper. I know this when you

1137
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 3: get to a point where you're Aaron Rodgers, like Peyton

1138
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 3: Manning when he was in Denver, John Elway suffered from this,

1139
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 3: Jim Kelly did. All the great quarterbacks at the end

1140
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 3: of their career or towards the end of their career.

1141
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 3: One problem is all of us compare the guy to himself. Yeah,

1142
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 3: let me ask you this. Compare Aaron Rodgers to the

1143
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 3: rest of the quarterbacks in the AFC. Is he Is

1144
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 3: he still there? I mean, is he still a viable starter?

1145
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 3: Is he? You know? Do you think he's got he played,

1146
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 3: he's he's made a point of it. He's gonna play

1147
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 3: seventeen games this year. He's out there, he's available. How

1148
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 3: good is he compared to the other guy? Not to

1149
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers when he was a two time MVP, compare

1150
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 3: him to the rest of the guys.

1151
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 14: I would say he's still far more than a viable starter. Steve.

1152
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I think when you talk about

1153
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 4: the best quarterbacks in the AFC, you're probably not mentioning

1154
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 4: his name in the top. You know, Well, certainly you

1155
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 4: got Josh, you got Mahomes, you got Burrow, you got Lamar.

1156
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 4: I don't think you'd put him in that category right now,

1157
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 4: but you'd certainly put him at the next group, you know.

1158
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 4: And again, I can't think of every guy, and I

1159
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 4: may have left someone out, so I don't want anybody

1160
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 4: to get upset. But I don't think he's quite that

1161
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 4: guy anymore. But you know he still Look, there's no

1162
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 4: question he could come out this week and depending on

1163
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 4: how things play out, could he go, you know, twenty

1164
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 4: five for thirty seven and throw for three forty. He

1165
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 4: absolutely could. You can't assume that this guy can't make throws.

1166
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 4: It just hasn't been exactly the same. And your point's

1167
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 4: a great one, Steve. I mean, you know, I was

1168
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 4: comparing Aaron Rodgers to Aaron Rodgers, you know, just because

1169
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 4: you know, I watched Tay for so many years and

1170
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,919
Speaker 4: obviously there was a stretch there for a long time

1171
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:03,959
Speaker 4: where it just seemed like he never missed a throw.

1172
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And then taking an overarching look at the offense, Greg,

1173
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 2: how would you say everything comes back to the offensive

1174
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 2: line and all the troubles of that group staying healthy

1175
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 2: because they have never demonstrated an ability to run the

1176
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 2: ball with any sense of production. They're thirty first in

1177
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 2: the league, and Aaron has not looked like Aaron because

1178
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 2: protection has been an issue for good portions of the season.

1179
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 2: Where would you say this line state is right now?

1180
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 2: With all the players on ir and even with fashion

1181
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 2: who going on IR this week.

1182
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's been a big issue, and I'm

1183
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 4: I was going to bring that up, and you just did.

1184
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 4: I think their old line has been a significant disappointment

1185
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 4: this year. They thought they really upgraded it in the

1186
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 4: offseason by signing Tyron Smith, who unfortunately has been heard again.

1187
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 4: They thought that they were upgrading it at the guard

1188
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 4: position by signing joh Simpsons. Simpson, right, yeah, yeah, and

1189
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,959
Speaker 4: you know, it just hasn't worked out. It hasn't been

1190
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 4: as good a group as I'm sure they thought. They've

1191
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 4: not been able to generate any consistent run game, which

1192
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 4: I'm sure they believed going into the season would be

1193
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 4: the foundation of their offense with a forty year old

1194
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 4: quarterback who obviously can still throw it really, really well,

1195
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 4: but you probably didn't want to be in a position

1196
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 4: where you had to ask him to drop back forty

1197
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 4: plus times a game. And they've just not been able

1198
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 4: to develop a run game the left tackle position. They

1199
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 4: did not want for Shano to be playing left tackle

1200
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 4: this year really when all said and done, and now

1201
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 4: they're into their third left tackle.

1202
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 14: Max Mitchell.

1203
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 4: I assume he came in for for Shan who I

1204
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 4: assume he'll be the starter at left tackle this week.

1205
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 4: He's not really a left tackle by NFL standards. So

1206
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 4: you know, their on line has been a bit, I

1207
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 4: don't want to say a bit of a disappointment. You

1208
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 4: could argue it's been the biggest disappointment in their offense.

1209
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 3: Let's talk about their offense. Where is it right now?

1210
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 3: And in a big picture, what will they expect to

1211
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 3: be able to get done against The Bills defense has

1212
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 3: struggled on third down and and and really has thrived

1213
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 3: on turnovers.

1214
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 14: I mean, I.

1215
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 4: Think they'll expect to play the way that they hope

1216
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 4: to play. They're not gonna come out and ask Aaron

1217
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 4: Rodgers to drop back forty five times. They're still going

1218
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 4: to try to run the ball. Look the two backs.

1219
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 4: Brice Hall is a high level talent.

1220
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 14: For a back.

1221
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 4: I mean, I know the numbers might not suggest that,

1222
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 4: but if you just look at sheer talent, given his size,

1223
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 4: his movement, his past catching ability, you know, if he

1224
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 4: was on a team, I don't think he's as good

1225
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 4: as Beejohn Robinson, but I think if he was on

1226
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 4: the Falcons, we'd be talking about him as a really

1227
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 4: good back, you know, and even Brayleen Allen. I did

1228
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 4: not love Braylen Allen coming out, but he's a very

1229
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 4: good number two back, you know, with Hall being a

1230
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 4: number one. So I think they're still going to try

1231
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 4: to play the way they have to play because I

1232
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 4: don't know if they can protect well enough. And look,

1233
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 4: I'm being honest, and you guys know that I watched

1234
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 4: the tape.

1235
01:06:58,200 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 14: I don't think the.

1236
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 4: Bills pass rush overall this season has been as as

1237
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 4: good as we were hoping it would be with their

1238
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 4: just a four man d line, although I got to

1239
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 4: admit I thought that that Miller had some really good

1240
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 4: pass rushes this past week. But anyway, overall, I didn't

1241
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 4: think that. I don't think it's been as good as

1242
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 4: we had all hoped. But still they can't come out,

1243
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 4: you know, in a throwball game. And where is this game?

1244
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 4: By the way, is this in New York?

1245
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 3: It's in Buffalo, Buffalo?

1246
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 14: What's that?

1247
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 4: Because I know down in this area, probably up through

1248
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 4: New York, we're supposed to get like rain for the next.

1249
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 2: Forty eighths frees in rain.

1250
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 14: Oh so it's not going to be cold, but it's

1251
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 14: gonna rain.

1252
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, So again, I don't know, you know, I don't

1253
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 4: know what that means as far as game plan for

1254
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 4: either team, but but yeah, they're gonna play, Steve to

1255
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 4: me the way they have to play in order to

1256
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 4: be successful in offense. Otherwise, Aaron Rodgers, even with the

1257
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 4: Bills pass rush not being exactly what we hoped, I

1258
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 4: think he'd be under too much dress.

1259
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,959
Speaker 2: And then with their defensive side of the ball, Quinn

1260
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 2: Williams is nicked up, doesn't look like Sauce Gardner is

1261
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 2: going to play after suffering a hamstring injury last week. Yes,

1262
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 2: where is this group? I mean? CJ. Moseley was kind

1263
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 2: of their emotional leader. He's on injured reserve with another

1264
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:18,640
Speaker 2: long term injury. I mean, I know that, you know,

1265
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 2: they're kind of middle of the pack when they really

1266
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 2: shouldn't be when you look at their talent. What is

1267
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 2: what has kind of happened there? Is it because of

1268
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 2: a lack of support from the offensive side of the ball,

1269
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 2: and they're forced to carry the mantle again much like

1270
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 2: they did last year with Zach Wilson.

1271
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's funny because I still think their

1272
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 4: defensive front, including their two linebackers Sherwood who I think

1273
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:41,640
Speaker 4: has actually had a very very good year, and he

1274
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 4: was obviously not penciled in as a starter when the

1275
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 4: season started with Moseley certainly not in their in their nickel,

1276
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 4: I think Sherwood and Quincy Williams are a good linebacking duer.

1277
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 4: They're both athletic kids. Sherwood was a safety in college

1278
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 4: of Quincy Williams is a pretty explosive athlete.

1279
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 14: They still have a pretty good front.

1280
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 4: Even if Quinn Williams does not play, I think their

1281
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 4: front still pretty good. Will McDonald's had a really good

1282
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 4: second season. They've got some nice players, so, you know,

1283
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 4: I think the back end, and then even Sauce Gardner

1284
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 4: and I know he's been in and out of the

1285
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 4: lineup this year. I don't think he's had a great year.

1286
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 4: And I think their back end has kind of let

1287
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 4: them down a little bit. They've had injuries at safety,

1288
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 4: they've had to play a lot of different people.

1289
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Speaker 14: So to me, it's been the back end.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know what their exact numbers are, you know,

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01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 4: versus pass, but just watching their tape, I mean, look,

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01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 4: they're playing Oliver at slot corner. Oliver couldn't cut it

1293
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 4: with the forty nine ers as a slot corner and

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01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 4: they released them. So they're playing some guys that they

1295
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 4: did not anticipate playing, and I think it's it's hurt

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01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:44,839
Speaker 4: them throughout the course of the season.

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Speaker 3: How does Sauce Gardner's absence change things for the Jets,

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Speaker 3: particularly against an offense like Buffaloes where he got one

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Speaker 3: week he got Amari Cooper getting fourteen targets, the next

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01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 3: week he got you know, Keon Coleman getting twelve targets,

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01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 3: and then he got Shakiir getting ten targets a different week.

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Speaker 3: You know, the Bills have this committee type of wide

1303
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 3: out room, and without Sauce, it might make it even

1304
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 3: a little easier for them to call this defensive game

1305
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:12,799
Speaker 3: plan against the Bills because you know, don't have a single,

1306
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 3: they don't have that top corner out there. How does

1307
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 3: this change the mix of that dB versus wide receiver

1308
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:20,679
Speaker 3: on the Bills offense? Jet defense?

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Speaker 4: And you know, I would think Steve not a lot,

1310
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 4: because contrary to what people think, Gardner's not a matchup corner.

1311
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,799
Speaker 4: Gardner is a left corner and reads the right corner

1312
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 4: very rarely. In Gardner's career, as he matched up to

1313
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 4: wide receivers. He doesn't do that. That's not the way

1314
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 4: they play. So now they play Eccos at left corner.

1315
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 4: You know, a guy who's been there for years and

1316
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 4: he's played both outside in this slot. I mean, he's

1317
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,560
Speaker 4: a he's an NFL corner. You can line up and

1318
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 4: play with Eckles. You know, he's not a great player,

1319
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 4: but you can line up and play with him. So

1320
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 4: he'll play a left corner. He he'll play right corner.

1321
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 4: Oliver will be in the slot.

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Speaker 14: You know.

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01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,600
Speaker 4: So again, I don't know how the Bills see that

1324
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 4: in terms of what they want to do formationally, but

1325
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 4: there's not a matchup corner situation here even if Gardner played.

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Speaker 2: All right, and then you know we get to I

1327
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 2: know you don't watch special teams, but their kicking game

1328
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 2: Greg has been a mess. I mean they've had three

1329
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 2: kickers now. Jeff Ulbrick, the Internet coach today said it

1330
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 2: will be zero line again. And this is a guy

1331
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 2: that clang too off the upright back in Week six

1332
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 2: in a three point loss, and he's back in the

1333
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 2: lineup off I R.

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Speaker 14: Yeah again, I don't want you know, I'm not studying.

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Speaker 4: That, but you know, when when for teams that ultimately

1336
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 4: are struggling, you know in particular areas, then special teams

1337
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 4: becomes a bigger factor because you just don't want your

1338
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 4: special teams to screw up, and their special teams, you know,

1339
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 4: unfortunately have done that. But you know, look, the concern

1340
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 4: you have just getting back to their offense. The concern

1341
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 4: you always have when you play in Aaron Rodgers is

1342
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 4: he's still Aaron Rodgers, and he can be great any

1343
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 4: given week, and you just can't go in assuming, well,

1344
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 4: see their offenses struggle their online and really that good

1345
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 4: or has not been that good, and therefore it's you know,

1346
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 4: they're probably not going to score a lot. You never

1347
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 4: know that. I mean, keep in mind, even though there's

1348
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 4: not been a great connection with Rogers and Wilson, you

1349
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 4: could argue with Adams and Wilson, they've got two of

1350
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 4: the top ten twelve receivers in the league. I mean

1351
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 4: Adams most people thought. I talked to you know, coaches

1352
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 4: this offseason, you know, previous to this summer, and Adams

1353
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 4: was viewed by everybody as a top five.

1354
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 14: Receiver in the league.

1355
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 4: So you know, I know his numbers because of his

1356
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 4: situation in Oakland and now with the Jets excuse me,

1357
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 4: lats Vegas and not with the Jets, and now with

1358
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 4: the Jets as such that he may not get a

1359
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 4: thousand yards.

1360
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Speaker 14: I don't know.

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01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 4: But you know you're dealing with two high, high level receivers.

1362
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 4: You know they can make plays and Rogers can still

1363
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 4: throw it.

1364
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 3: Is there?

1365
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 2: One?

1366
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 3: Is there? How many reasons are there for the Bills

1367
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 3: struggles defensively on third down?

1368
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 4: Well, this is just my view of tape. Again, I

1369
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 4: don't know how things are coached. I don't know how

1370
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 4: they see it. I think they've struggled to get the

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01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 4: pressure they hoped with four and they've been a predominant

1372
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 4: zone team, and I think they've struggled a bit with

1373
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,679
Speaker 4: their communication on the back end. So I think there's

1374
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 4: been too many holes and voids. Every zone Steve as

1375
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:16,719
Speaker 4: you well know, has voids. I mean otherwise everybody would

1376
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 4: play the same zone. So I think they've struggled with that.

1377
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 4: And when you combine that with the fact that the

1378
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 4: pass rush hasn't been quite what we hoped, I think

1379
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 4: that those two things really stand out to me on tape.

1380
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 2: Anyway, Greg, thanks as Oways, appreciate it. We'll catch up

1381
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 2: with you next week. Happy New Year to you.

1382
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 14: Hey, same to you, guys. Appreciate it.

1383
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 3: Thanks Greg.

1384
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:40,759
Speaker 2: That's Greg Cosel joining us as he does every Friday

1385
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:44,719
Speaker 2: to talk x's and o's for the upcoming matchup. Bill's Jets.

1386
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 2: I've got to ask him about Hassan Reddick's impact or

1387
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 2: potential impact. He's only got a half a second two

1388
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:53,679
Speaker 2: quarterback hits in eight games, and he kind of rotates

1389
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 2: in passing down. He's kind of got like a Von

1390
01:13:56,400 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 2: Miller roll. The interesting thing there, though, is he and

1391
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 2: Dion Dawkins are former college teammates and they could be

1392
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 2: squaring off head to head at times. So two players

1393
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 2: that are opponents and know each other as well as

1394
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 2: anyone in this matchup on Sunday.

1395
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 3: Son Reddick was from Temple yep, Temple University. Who knew

1396
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 3: what you did?

1397
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I mentioned it.

1398
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 3: Good for you.

1399
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 2: We got to take a break here, but we can

1400
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 2: get back to the phone calls. Maybe crack open the

1401
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 2: OBL Friday fan mail bag tweetsheet as well to answer

1402
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 2: more of your questions. Next Here on one Bill's Live

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01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 2: presented by Coliuda Health, It's Buffalo Bills. Radio Tailgay Friday

1404
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 2: is presented by Himark, Blue Cross, Blue Shield. High Mark

1405
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 2: is the official healthcare plan of the Buffalo Bills. Because life.

1406
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 2: I want to see what you got up on the

1407
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 2: grills this weekend? Can eat some rain cover? Have those

1408
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 2: pop up tents ready? Bill says, lasagna sounds good? When

1409
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 2: does it not sound good? But how are you pulling

1410
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 2: that off? You got to make that at home in

1411
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 2: the oven, and then you got to just keep it

1412
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 2: warm out here and then cut and serve. Robbie says,

1413
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 2: Baked turkey wings. Flavors include garlic, palm, maple, bacon, buffalo,

1414
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 2: and just salt and pepper dipped in gravy, followed by

1415
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:36,520
Speaker 2: a Weggman sampler cheesecake. Google the wings, they look fantastic.

1416
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:41,799
Speaker 2: Ordered them from a local butcher. Baked turkey wings baked.

1417
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 2: I would imagine those are bigger then chicken wings significantly.

1418
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 2: Yeah right yeah, not finishing those in a couple of bites,

1419
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 2: right yeah, Get ten of those. You're curious to see

1420
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 2: just how big those are. Jack says, praying the rain

1421
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 2: is lighter than expected. We're having pasta alaya in the

1422
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 2: lot this week. Bow Tie pasta smoke, sausage, chicken and

1423
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 2: cage and spices. It's a hardy dish. We'll also have

1424
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 2: some nice crusty bread chips and pretzels with dip and

1425
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 2: Canadian Bruskis go bills.

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01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna be out in about in some of

1427
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:15,759
Speaker 3: the tailgating lots this weekend.

1428
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 2: Keep an eye out for mister Tansker.

1429
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 3: I'll be out tooling around and yeah saying ho.

1430
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 2: Nicole says one pm kickoff. So it's brunch, egg sandwiches,

1431
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:33,480
Speaker 2: homemade sour dough egg bacon and bree with truffle oil, avocado,

1432
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:38,680
Speaker 2: mayo and fig spread. Apparently a little left over from Christmas.

1433
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 3: Awesome.

1434
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is something else. Sue gonna keep it simple.

1435
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 2: Chicken chili in the crock pot. It's an easy way

1436
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 2: to go, low maintenance. Keep the burner on, you know,

1437
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 2: just keep it on, keep everything warm, and go back

1438
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 2: for seconds.

1439
01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 3: You need.

1440
01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 2: When it's raining, you need to stick to your ribs

1441
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 2: kind of. Yeah, tailgate me on them.

1442
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a I'm a beef chili guy rather than a.

1443
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 2: Chicken I am too generally, but yeah, I am not

1444
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 2: a verse. Steve says, I will be at the last

1445
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 2: Steak Cookoff Association Competition of the Year in Goldsboro, North Carolina.

1446
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 2: So a ribbi will be on my grill. Go Bills. Well,

1447
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 2: good luck to you, Steve. Very hope to get the

1448
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 2: blue ribbon, and I hope you have better weather than

1449
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 2: we're gonna have. Yeah, it's gonna be.

1450
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 3: A little wet, it's gonna be eu but.

1451
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 2: That is So that's Tailgate Friday in a nutshell this week.

1452
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 2: Thanks for all your recipe submissions. Back to the phones

1453
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 2: we go, and we're going out to the Islands. We're

1454
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 2: going to Brent out in HAWAIII. What do you got

1455
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 2: for us, Brent.

1456
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 15: Well, I'm not in Hawaii. I'm from Hawaii. We just

1457
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 15: arrived here and Buffalo for our first ever Bill's home game.

1458
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 15: I'm here with my wife, Sherry, and my two sons,

1459
01:17:56,320 --> 01:18:00,120
Speaker 15: Building and Wyatt, eighteen and sixteen years old. We were

1460
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 15: at the Chicago game two years ago when we froze

1461
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:06,679
Speaker 15: our butts off at the coldest road game in history.

1462
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 15: And we're happy it's a little bit warmer, but we're

1463
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 15: sad it's not a little colder on Sunday because we

1464
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 15: were hoping to see some snow, not rain.

1465
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you can't get everything, Brent, but hopefully the

1466
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 2: most important thing you get is a victory. So thanks

1467
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 2: for making the trip.

1468
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's great. Welcome into town. What are you

1469
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 3: going to do?

1470
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 15: I don't have anything to tailgate with, unfortunately, because we

1471
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 15: couldn't bring that all on the plane. Well, we brought

1472
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 15: some chocolate covered macadamia nuts and we're hoping to see

1473
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 15: if we can trade some of those are talking about

1474
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 15: on Sunday.

1475
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the barter system works, very well.

1476
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 3: Bred tailgaters tell them, yes, if you get a chance

1477
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 3: to tell somebody your story, you will. Bill's fans will

1478
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 3: absolutely take care of you. That is awesome. Good luck

1479
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 3: to you and your family. Hope we cross paths.

1480
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, have some fun.

1481
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 15: What time should we show up there at the at

1482
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 15: the stadium?

1483
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 3: I would say at the state The lots of the

1484
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,600
Speaker 3: stadium open on the grounds, offer up at open up

1485
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 3: at nine. Uh, some of the neighborhood lots around the

1486
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 3: stadium will open up obviously, you know, very early.

1487
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:11,640
Speaker 15: So uh, we don't have a car, so we'll just

1488
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:12,759
Speaker 15: uber whatever.

1489
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no worries, but yeah, give

1490
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,600
Speaker 2: yourself a couple of hours drop by, drop by the

1491
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 2: big tree, drop by the hammer lot, drop by the

1492
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 2: yeah grass lot, all over.

1493
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 15: Anything else we should do while.

1494
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 3: We're here, get some wings somewhere.

1495
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 15: Yeah, all right, well I'm so I'm so happy to

1496
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:37,560
Speaker 15: be here. Yeah, we'll be sharing.

1497
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 2: Go bills, Go bills.

1498
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:45,719
Speaker 3: That's awesome. Yeah. The chocolate covered Macadamianus as a bing,

1499
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 3: that's right, that's a that is a real bitcoin there

1500
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:52,559
Speaker 3: to be bartering with there. Good for you?

1501
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, well done? Uh to Ryan in Toronto?

1502
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 1: What's up?

1503
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 2: Ryan?

1504
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 16: I had a really good customer, guys. I wur touch

1505
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 16: on the MVP race, to be honest. The way the

1506
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 16: way the schedule looks, it is gonna favor at all

1507
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:15,719
Speaker 16: if they went on Sunday. I hopefully they will. There's

1508
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:17,640
Speaker 16: no way in hell it's gonna be playing on the

1509
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 16: following week against the Katiets, So forget about that MVP race.

1510
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 16: I think Barkley has a really good shot at getting

1511
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 16: the m v P.

1512
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 17: At least.

1513
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 16: I say that he's playing Dallas.

1514
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 17: And the Giants, and both of those teams are giving

1515
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 17: up an average of one hundred and thirty two thirty

1516
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 17: five yards the rushing yards. This guy needs two sixty

1517
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 17: eight r to break your time record. That's two games

1518
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 17: right there. He had one fifty last week. Especially with

1519
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 17: Kennith biggest starting for he goes. I don't I don't

1520
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 17: see this guy throwing the ball. They're going to keep

1521
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 17: fleeing the Barkley and I can see Barkley breaking the

1522
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 17: record Week eighteen against the Giants in Philly.

1523
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 2: It could happen, Ryan, I will say. I will say

1524
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 2: Dallas's defense has been playing decidedly better over the past month.

1525
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 2: Not lights out, but certainly miles better than they were

1526
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:13,679
Speaker 2: when they were giving up record point totals in home games.

1527
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,600
Speaker 2: They have played hard for McCarthy down the stretch, and

1528
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:21,679
Speaker 2: the defense has improved under a veteran defensive coordinator, Mike Zimmer.

1529
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 2: So you're right, though, they are going to run the

1530
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 2: ball a ton, especially with Jalen Hurts out this week

1531
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 2: and in concussion protocol.

1532
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 3: And I'll say this too about the schedule and Josh

1533
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 3: and the MVP. Josh may not win the MVP. Certainly,

1534
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 3: Bills fans love him, and he's and he's played out

1535
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 3: lights out for this club and has for you know,

1536
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 3: most of his career. I mean, the guy's been in

1537
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 3: this conversation every single year he gets if he loses

1538
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 3: it again to a and let's say he loses it

1539
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 3: to an epic performance by Saquon Barkley who breaks Eric

1540
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 3: Dickerson's record. And I said earlier in the year when

1541
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 3: this started to come up, if Saquon breaks Eric Dickerson's record,

1542
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:02,680
Speaker 3: he may get the MVP. That's his shot at it.

1543
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 3: Otherwise he may be he may be the offensive Player

1544
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 3: of the year. Either way. If Josh does get shut

1545
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 3: out for the MVP, hopefully his offensive line and Josh

1546
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 3: himself will have a big chip on their shoulder in

1547
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 3: the playoffs and want to prove everybody wrong and send

1548
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 3: him to the super Bowl for that MVP. Nothing, nothing

1549
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:26,719
Speaker 3: is as motivating as disrespect. And that would be easy

1550
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 3: to conjure up in this regard if if Josh were

1551
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 3: to get shut out of it.

1552
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 2: Quite frankly, I'm exhausted about It's tiring, like this MVP

1553
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 2: stuff just whatever.

1554
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 3: And I get it too.

1555
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 2: I have no faith.

1556
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 3: And lamars Lamar is a great player.

1557
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 2: We've all seen it.

1558
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 3: He's a tremendous player, and so is Josh, and so

1559
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 3: is Mahomes and Joe Burrow and Saquon and it's you

1560
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 3: know it, but it's at Las's face it. Every time

1561
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:54,679
Speaker 3: you want to count one of them out, they do something.

1562
01:22:55,000 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 3: Josh included, right, there's a lot in it, But I'm

1563
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 3: not really I'm not getting wound up about it because

1564
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:06,680
Speaker 3: both guys are deserving. You're gonna get a lot of

1565
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 3: pushback on both sides from and and rightfully so. And

1566
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 3: the problem for us is a lot of us. We

1567
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 3: put it all into the same basket. We put in

1568
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 3: last year's season into the basket. We put the year

1569
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 3: before season into the basket. We put everything that the

1570
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 3: the Ravens are at and the Philadelphia Eagles and all

1571
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 3: their stuff, and all that goes into the basket. It's

1572
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 3: not just about the guys we're talking about. It's about

1573
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 3: their entire organizations, and sometimes that gets in the way

1574
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 3: of seeing it clearly. But whoever wins it, they've had

1575
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 3: a great season and we'll just have to sit back

1576
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 3: and see how it goes.

1577
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 2: To Steve in Alabama, X, what's up, Steve?

1578
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 9: How are you doing? Guys? Listen? I have been a

1579
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 9: long time or the Vickering Bills. I actually met Steve

1580
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:54,679
Speaker 9: and his wife in New Orleans during the Doug Flutie,

1581
01:23:54,800 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 9: Rob Johnson, Wade Phillips days, and you know, and hung

1582
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 9: out with Murph at the Senior Bowl. So you know,

1583
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 9: I've been through many, many seasons of the Bills, but

1584
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 9: you know, I'm coming home, you know, Christmas, and I'm going, well,

1585
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 9: if the Steelers can pull off this wind and Houston

1586
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 9: can pull up this win, you know, we can hope

1587
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 9: for the number one seed and then we flip and

1588
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:20,600
Speaker 9: it's looking like there's a possibility that we may have

1589
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:26,640
Speaker 9: to face correct me if I'm wrong, borrow Lamar, and

1590
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 9: then go on the road to Kansas City. It couldn't

1591
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 9: be any tougher. But you know, as a Bills fan,

1592
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 9: we only can embrace this and say we wouldn't have

1593
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 9: it any other way.

1594
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:42,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough, Steve. I'm not so sure that the

1595
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 2: Bengals are gonna make it, but we'll see. I mean,

1596
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 2: they're not mathematically eliminated, but they got an uphill climb.

1597
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not gonna make it, but they could. But

1598
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 3: either way, it looks like the Bills would probably face

1599
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 3: Baltimore and Kansas City, Baltimore home, Kansas City on the

1600
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 3: road or vice versa. Baltimore on the road and Kansas

1601
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:01,759
Speaker 3: City on the road if they don't get the two seed.

1602
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 3: That's just the way it's gonna be. And you know.

1603
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 2: That usually is how it goes in the playoffs.

1604
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 3: You play the best and think about it. And I've said,

1605
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 3: I went on a rant the other day. You know,

1606
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 3: everybody says, why you got to go in to Kansas

1607
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 3: City and play the Chiefs and nada da da. The

1608
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 3: Bills are the only the Bills are one of those teams.

1609
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 3: And and I think probably Baltimore feels this way, and

1610
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 3: certainly Kansas City does. They don't care.

1611
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 2: They they got the they got.

1612
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 3: The juice to beat any of either of those teams,

1613
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:31,559
Speaker 3: any of the teams in the playoffs on the road

1614
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:34,559
Speaker 3: or at home, you're not You're not gonna make one

1615
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 3: of these teams flinch. Kansas City is a two time

1616
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:41,760
Speaker 3: super Bowl champ for a reason, and Baltimore is a

1617
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 3: perennial playoff contender and a playoff UH team all every year.

1618
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 3: That's an organization with that head coach that has won

1619
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 3: a super Bowl. And you're not gonna these teams aren't

1620
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 3: gonna flinch. And if you know, if you think Buffalo

1621
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 3: is So if some somehow, some other team's gonna get

1622
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:05,760
Speaker 3: a break by facing Josh Allen, this Buffalo team, come on,

1623
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 3: you know. I mean it's it's the playoffs. They are

1624
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 3: all gonna be tough games.

1625
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 2: We gotta take a break here. We'll see if we

1626
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:15,639
Speaker 2: can squeeze a phone call in when we come back

1627
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 2: here on one Bill's Live Stay with us Vision to

1628
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 2: Victory presented by Atwal eye Here, the official eye care

1629
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:40,679
Speaker 2: provider of the Buffalo Bills. I think the d Lion's

1630
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 2: gotta go eat in this one. Not only stuff in

1631
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 2: the run, but you're playing against an offensive line that's

1632
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 2: on their third left tackle and may have a backup

1633
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 2: at right tackle as well. If Morgan Moses can't get

1634
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:56,080
Speaker 2: out there and play, Elijah Vera Tucker the right guard

1635
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 2: also Dinged may not play either. I mean they're gonna

1636
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 2: have a mash unit up front trying to protect Aaron

1637
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 2: Rodgers and get a run game going. That to me

1638
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:06,600
Speaker 2: is where it's got to start and finish.

1639
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:08,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this Monday, this has got to be

1640
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 3: a defensive game plan focused on an old, battered, less

1641
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 3: than mobile quarterback and you got to hurry him up

1642
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 3: you got to get the ball out and help your secondary.

1643
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:26,640
Speaker 3: I think he's send pressure after him. I think he

1644
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 3: send pressure after him all game. Certainly he can throw it,

1645
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 3: but as you heard Greg Cosell say, he doesn't place

1646
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:36,760
Speaker 3: the ball like he you know, is hard pressure him,

1647
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 3: and I think you beat him up. You don't have

1648
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:42,519
Speaker 3: to show any mercy. Darreon Rodgers. He's had a great career,

1649
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 3: but he knows what he signed up for. Make him

1650
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 3: unpunish him in the pocket. Yeah, yeah, I think you're right, Brownie.

1651
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 3: I think it's the defensive front wins this.

1652
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 2: That is vision Vision to Victory presented by at Wall

1653
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:00,599
Speaker 2: Eye ca. Here we squeeze in John and Detroit here

1654
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 2: before we go. What do you got, John Hey?

1655
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 12: Your vision to victories? The perfect segue. I think we

1656
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:09,599
Speaker 12: need to make Aaron Rodgers the heel this Sunday, as

1657
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 12: you would in a wrestling match. I can't remember a

1658
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:16,720
Speaker 12: more perfect heel for the Jets over the years, other

1659
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 12: than Joe Namas. He could not win in the old

1660
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 12: Rock Pile. I went to five of those games. He

1661
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 12: was won and four and the crowd would always let

1662
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 12: Joe Willie have it, and he was so frustrated, and

1663
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 12: I think if we do the same to Rogers on Sunday,

1664
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:34,719
Speaker 12: we keep him from getting that five hundredth touchdown pass,

1665
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 12: it's like breaking up a no hitter. I think we're

1666
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:40,760
Speaker 12: gonna have a very good Sunday and I'll blow out all.

1667
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 2: Right, Thanks John for the call. He'll turn Aaron Rodgers

1668
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 2: into the grinch.

1669
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 3: There you go, Yeah, yeah, maybe yeah. I think this

1670
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 3: game does focus on him. I think he's he's the guy.

1671
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 3: He's the focal point.

1672
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 2: Of the whole thing, especially since they have trouble running

1673
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 2: the ball. But you got to stop that too. I mean,

1674
01:28:58,760 --> 01:28:59,840
Speaker 2: you got talented guys in there.

1675
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 3: Brice Hall is a real is the real guy. He's

1676
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:03,679
Speaker 3: a dude.

1677
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 2: Uh.

1678
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 3: This offensive line has question marks. They've been pobbling it

1679
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 3: together once again, and you got to make him pay

1680
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 3: for that. You've got to take advantage of that, and

1681
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 3: if if you can't, you're going to give them a

1682
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 3: chance to beat you.

1683
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a week I think for the d line

1684
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 2: to eat, so get right opportunity for a defense that

1685
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:27,640
Speaker 2: has faced some criticism from their own fan base. I

1686
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:30,799
Speaker 2: think they got to get healthier first before you start. Yeah,

1687
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 2: lobbing grenades, Adam.

1688
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 3: I'll say it again, you might take on Jets fans

1689
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 3: are happiest when they have good reason to boo their own.

1690
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 2: Temp That's it for us here. Enjoy the game on Sunday.

1691
01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:43,760
Speaker 2: Steve and I back on Monday at noon to talk

1692
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:46,599
Speaker 2: to you about everything that happened in this game. Enjoy

1693
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 2: it and we'll see you that