WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Grading Dallas' Recent Drafts

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<v Speaker 1>The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>Wall with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Eagleton. It is Thursday, May tenth, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>episode number seven. Welcome to another edition of the Break

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<v Speaker 1>Block from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star

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<v Speaker 1>and we appreciate you guys taken some time with us

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<v Speaker 1>today to talk some Cowboys football. How's everybody doing this morning? Great? Great?

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<v Speaker 1>Doing great? Awesome? Get a fun golf outing yesterday? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you guys after listening, we're able to

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<v Speaker 1>check out from Okay, we had a lot more fun

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<v Speaker 1>than than what it shows. Seriously, I've never seen understand

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<v Speaker 1>how that more miserable looking for people in my life. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Dave just said that he was almost asleep. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Dave kind of already has kind of the lean bad

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<v Speaker 1>sort of my vibe. Any yeah, so it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was natural for you. Yeah, But the rest of you

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<v Speaker 1>guys if you watch, didn't want to be a podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, a lot of we had a

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<v Speaker 1>good time, you know what. I still don't know, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know it was in the glass. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>know it was in the glass. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>it was on camera. When Nick was dancing with his drink.

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<v Speaker 1>Did that get on camera? I think so? Okay. I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thought closer together was right behind you and

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<v Speaker 1>he had his drink and he was kind of doing

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<v Speaker 1>the broadest at Rob's wedding kind of dance. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I got my drink. It was that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But I didn't know if it got on camera. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it did. I didn't see that. Go back and

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<v Speaker 1>check it out. I want to say it was. It

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<v Speaker 1>was before I got on the air, so it was

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<v Speaker 1>like roughly about the twenty minute mark. I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 1>that that camera was with the third camera. Obviously. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all good. Yeah, it was a good day though. Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>went out there, played a little golf with some sponsors.

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<v Speaker 1>We were able to talk to a few guys on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. It's really nice lineup that we had there,

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<v Speaker 1>with guys like Zach Martin, Dak Prescott coach Garrett came

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<v Speaker 1>by Tyren Smith. When you planned something for three to

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<v Speaker 1>four weeks like that, it results show. Yeah. Usually when

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<v Speaker 1>you plan it overnight, that's even better. That worked out.

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<v Speaker 1>It worked out well, yeah, and we'll do a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more of that next year. But I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>hit a good including going on as well, because Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett did not want to be on there. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>fifth time, and he said, all right, I'll do it

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<v Speaker 1>anything for you Amber. Yeah, I'll think you had a

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<v Speaker 1>good time, right, Probably not, but we're doing guys. Honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I think everybody had it. Like I think all the

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<v Speaker 1>guys that came on the show seem to not be

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<v Speaker 1>like they left with a good impression. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Garrett walked away like, man, you know what, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to do that, but that was pretty great. However, however,

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<v Speaker 1>like he did bring food to us later in the afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>did on his own just walk through like, hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I got some food. You guys wanted food, And he

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<v Speaker 1>came back a second time and said, hey, you sure

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want more? That was pretty nice of him,

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<v Speaker 1>Very on Garrett. So he did enjoy the interview. He

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed the interview, wouldn't want to see me and they're

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<v Speaker 1>still out at the golf course drinking and dancing. Yeah. True,

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<v Speaker 1>we was working. I don't know, maybe I was looking

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<v Speaker 1>looking back. It's probably what will happen. All right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>jump in. Let's talk actually today. What I want to

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<v Speaker 1>do at the bulk of our time, UM is I

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<v Speaker 1>want to I've had a couple of people hit me

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<v Speaker 1>up on Twitter, uh to ask, you know, if we

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<v Speaker 1>if we have some grades for the draft, um, And

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<v Speaker 1>my my retort is always it's dumb to grade a

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<v Speaker 1>draft after the draft. It's more apt to grade drafts

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<v Speaker 1>years after it happens, because that's when you know whether

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<v Speaker 1>the picks were actually good picks or not. So what

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do today, UM is, we're gonna go back.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go back to two thousand and fourteen. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have back to two thousand and fifteen, um, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe look a little bit at two thousand and sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>but I really want to focus on fourteen and fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're gonna go across and talk about the different

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<v Speaker 1>guys that were drafted, UM and give our own unders.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess grade of what we think the cowboy always

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<v Speaker 1>did in those drafts and doesn't have to be an ABC.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying kind of gets an assessment. It's too

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<v Speaker 1>early for sixteen or like you don't want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it's a little bit early for sixteen. Arguably, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean we could have that last in history. Well, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know that. That's the point. Like I think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times you get to this point after

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<v Speaker 1>a draft you're like that guy could be something, that

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<v Speaker 1>guy could be, and then two years from that you're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't here anymore. Two thousand and eight too early.

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<v Speaker 1>The best draft? Yeah, in the first layer two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and eight was I mean, yeah, Felix, yah, Felix, rookie yere,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Jenkins is gonna be really good already be seriously

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<v Speaker 1>man Scandrick in the fifth round. Great draft, and then yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so fair. I think sixteen might be a little early

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<v Speaker 1>to give it a grade just yet, because I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it does look good and we it's promising, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, But I think the other two we

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<v Speaker 1>really can kind of dive into and really assess how

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<v Speaker 1>well they did into that Your first and fourth round pick,

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<v Speaker 1>basically cutting the Rookie of the Year or award right

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<v Speaker 1>down in the middle. Like, that's that's a good start,

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<v Speaker 1>very good start. Right. But before we get there, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought there were a couple news items from yesterday that

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to hit real quick. Um. First thing is

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<v Speaker 1>Terrell McClain. He is going to be in the building

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<v Speaker 1>today if he's not already already here, um, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>visiting with the team. He's potentially could come back. M

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<v Speaker 1>was here for a few years, played pretty well when healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>went to the Redskins for a year, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>Redskins cut him first. I guess, tell me, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think from the standpoint of what he can bring

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<v Speaker 1>to this team if the Cowboys were to sign him,

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<v Speaker 1>where does he fit and what does it give them

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<v Speaker 1>that they may not have Right now? We get our

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<v Speaker 1>Friday dance parties back. That's what I want the most.

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<v Speaker 1>That's I mean, that's not have him last year, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Joe Looney tried a couple of times, but

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't the same. Terrell mcclin used to like break

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<v Speaker 1>it down every Friday. Better than Byron Bill, Yes, way

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<v Speaker 1>better than Byron Yes better, Yes, Terrell mcclein better than

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<v Speaker 1>Terrell McClean can break dance. I don't care about You're

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<v Speaker 1>just biased because you're in that dumb fraternaty. Sorry that

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<v Speaker 1>was marsh That was too Sorry, whoa whatever, whatever, you

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<v Speaker 1>got one coming later. It's fine Terrell McClain. Honestly, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good point that you bring up because I

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<v Speaker 1>remember the first two years he was on this team,

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<v Speaker 1>we were like, is this guy any good? Like he

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't get on the field. Um, But twenty I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a lot of stuff went in line in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen, and uh, and he was one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he was. He was great. He was He started,

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<v Speaker 1>he played all sixteen games, he played the three he

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<v Speaker 1>played the one. He was disruptive. I think he had

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<v Speaker 1>four sacks. He was a big part of that D line,

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<v Speaker 1>which and you know, the D line around here hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>been awesome over the last five six years. So he

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<v Speaker 1>was a bright spot on a unit that hasn't been

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<v Speaker 1>amazing in recent memory. Um, and and the like the

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<v Speaker 1>dance thing is important because it was you know, team camaraderie.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a big part of that special locker room

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<v Speaker 1>that everybody talking well, really, what it is it shows

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<v Speaker 1>what Mary Nelly likes about him the most, which is

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<v Speaker 1>his feet. He always says he's like he calls him

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<v Speaker 1>the dancing barrel. I mean, he can do that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff until I guess to be a good dancer,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta have the feat. But from football standpoint, I

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<v Speaker 1>think he uses it to his advantage. I think it's depth.

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<v Speaker 1>Though I've never been a big fan of him. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I did never see why he's a well we make

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal out of it, because I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he really has played that well when he when he

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<v Speaker 1>was even was out there, it was like okay, but

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<v Speaker 1>didn't didn't play that well to me. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is a David Irving move. This is like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>can we count on Irving? Can we count on him

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<v Speaker 1>to play? Let's let's get a guy we know that,

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<v Speaker 1>we like that Rod knows how to use him, and

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's put out there. But I don't think this

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<v Speaker 1>is a difference maker. If he if he comes in,

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<v Speaker 1>does he not become kind of your does he become

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<v Speaker 1>immediately your one technique starter? And do you make And

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I kind of a three solidly a three technique.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to sell anybody that he's gonna Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Nick has a point that I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not in Dominican sue no. But um but I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's better than that because I think he's a one

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<v Speaker 1>technique who can be disruptive. I think Malie Collins had

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<v Speaker 1>a great year because he got to play the three.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I always thought it was a revisionist history

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<v Speaker 1>last year when everybody was like, well, they like him

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<v Speaker 1>at one, and I was like, no, they don't. They

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<v Speaker 1>just don't have a better option at one, and that

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<v Speaker 1>and plus stuff, the price went down. Yeah, And so

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, if he can start at the

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<v Speaker 1>one and let Malik and David Irving both play three

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<v Speaker 1>when they want to or need to, I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that would be great. Ye all right, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>one other thing I wanted to hit real quick, Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>you had a tweet last night I thought was really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen yesterday had a quote and I don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>quote on me, but it was a quote specific to

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<v Speaker 1>Dak and what they expect from him this year, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was talking a lot about and I actually, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>let you kind of lay out kind of what he

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<v Speaker 1>was saying and what you took from it. What did

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<v Speaker 1>you hear from Steven yesterday on Dak and what they're

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<v Speaker 1>expecting from him? Well, uh, Stephen kind of pulled a nick.

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<v Speaker 1>He implied some stuff a little bit there, which I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's you know, it's it's wrong to say that

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<v Speaker 1>those you know, front office types and coaches never give

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<v Speaker 1>you anything. Sometimes you just kind of have to read

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<v Speaker 1>between the lines, which you know something. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>question about, you know, how do you replace the leadership

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<v Speaker 1>of Dez and Witten? And then Steven kind of went

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<v Speaker 1>off in a completely different direction about how the offense

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<v Speaker 1>is going to look different, and basically, you know, he's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're gonna let Dak play quarterback this year,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, Dak loves to go through his progressions

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<v Speaker 1>and read the play and throw the ball to the

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<v Speaker 1>guy who's open, as opposed to feeling pressure to get

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<v Speaker 1>the ball in one specific place. Never said anybody's name,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was a name written all over. If you

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<v Speaker 1>got probably two names written, maybe yeah, if you got

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<v Speaker 1>a signapse in your brain, you should be able to

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<v Speaker 1>connect the dots there that he's talking. I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 1>certainly talking about Dez, and maybe to a degree he

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<v Speaker 1>was even talking about Jason Witten. And I think you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've said it a million times. I hate the phrase

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<v Speaker 1>Dak friendly. I just it's one of those stupid soundbites

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<v Speaker 1>that just nobody even knows what it means. They just

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<v Speaker 1>throw it out there and it's fun to jabber about.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're DAK friendly, to me, means a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who's just gonna get open and shut up and not

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<v Speaker 1>complain about the production he gets. That's kind of that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I look at. And they've lined it up that

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<v Speaker 1>that's what they're poised to do right now, and getting

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<v Speaker 1>rid of certain elements of the offense from play a

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<v Speaker 1>role in that. And one thing that you mentioned right there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think somebody was mentioned this to me on Twitter. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>why couldn't he just tell those voices to be quiet?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if this is that Stephen was

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily saying. This is pointing the finger at Dez for

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<v Speaker 1>being vocal that he wasn't getting the ball. If the

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<v Speaker 1>offense was really predicated on, Hey, we're gonna really focus

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<v Speaker 1>on trying to get Dez the ball because we feel

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<v Speaker 1>like he can win this matchup, rather than hey, we're

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna go through the progression. On each play, you

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<v Speaker 1>follow the progression order, when you find the open guy,

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<v Speaker 1>you get the ball out right. That could have been

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<v Speaker 1>the case too. We don't know that, But I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saying it's not always just about saying. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's as simple as just saying, well, Dez was complaining.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he could also be other things that the

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<v Speaker 1>offense may have dictating in scenarios that he was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get the ball. We know there were several games

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<v Speaker 1>there an early in season when he was just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to forcing you saw. And it's so useful having all

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<v Speaker 1>or nothing to go back and look at, because there's

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<v Speaker 1>even a clip in there where Lenahan's talking to Dad

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, remember, just because there's a guy on

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<v Speaker 1>Dez doesn't necessarily mean he's cover. I mean just little

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. Well, I mean, Dez is the only

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<v Speaker 1>guy that's really gonna make a play on the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if nobody's open, Cole's not open, he's not

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<v Speaker 1>making a play on the ball. Terrence isn't making a play,

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<v Speaker 1>Whitten's not really going to go make a play on

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<v Speaker 1>the ball. So I mean, who else are you going

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<v Speaker 1>to throw it too? If you have to get the

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<v Speaker 1>ball out? I mean, Dez is the one guy that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna win a jump ball one on one battle. And

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't do it all the time, but he does.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, so this is the other guys that have

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<v Speaker 1>got to get open as well and help him. And

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about Dak friendly or whatever. A guy that

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<v Speaker 1>can go make a play for you is would be

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<v Speaker 1>friendly for any quarterback, and so he's gonna have somebody

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<v Speaker 1>needs to do that more. Bet. This is my perspective

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<v Speaker 1>as far as Dez. He's such a vocal guy and

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<v Speaker 1>so passionate that he's one of those guys that sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you just cater to him just to like, okay, here

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<v Speaker 1>you go here, you fine take it, but kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like calm down a little bit. There are people like that,

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<v Speaker 1>like you just go over the flow to let him

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<v Speaker 1>do his thing just because you want them to calm down.

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<v Speaker 1>So I and talking back about all or nothing. You

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<v Speaker 1>kind of get a sense of that too watching what

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<v Speaker 1>it's inside. Even with Dooley, the way the interactions, it

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<v Speaker 1>was very weird, Like Dooley wasn't the one in power

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<v Speaker 1>type of thing. It's like Das kind of went over

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<v Speaker 1>him and it's like, okay, well here comes this. Let's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do whatever death says type of thing. So it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be a good thing for Dak definitely in the game

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<v Speaker 1>and concentration and focus and figure out exactly what he

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<v Speaker 1>needs to do with that that kind of pressure. There's

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<v Speaker 1>only gonna be one player on this offense that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you go to halftime and you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the stats and you're like, like, why it isn't this

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<v Speaker 1>guy more involved. There's only one guy on this team

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<v Speaker 1>that fits that description out and it's Zeke uh And

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<v Speaker 1>And in the passing game, there's nobody. Nobody here has

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<v Speaker 1>the skins on the wall to command that type of

0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:15.679
<v Speaker 1>respect or attention Witton or does I mean shut up

0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:18.079
<v Speaker 1>Alan Hearns, Like who's I mean? I mean not really,

0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:19.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, Alan Heurns is actually a really nice guy,

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<v Speaker 1>But like Alan Hearns isn't just dictating what the game

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<v Speaker 1>plan is. Neither neither is Cole Beasley, neither's Michael Gallop,

0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:30.240
<v Speaker 1>neither's Dalton Schultz or Rico Gathering. I mean, it's so

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, I think a Dak friendly receiverco or

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<v Speaker 1>well you according to everybody else, h they're just I

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<v Speaker 1>mean a Dack friendly receiver as a guy who's going

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<v Speaker 1>to take what's given to them and not worry about it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's which is what they want at this point. It

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like what they're looking for is and this day

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<v Speaker 1>it might be Terrence's day. You're gonna you're gonna catch

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<v Speaker 1>the bulk of the balls on this day. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be Cole On this day, it's gonna be gallop this offense, right, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly right. One of the quick questions before we

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<v Speaker 1>move on to our draft analysis, Um, you guys at

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<v Speaker 1>all surprised that Dez is still out there and not

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<v Speaker 1>on a team and that there isn't more interest for

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that I'll say for myself, I truly expected

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<v Speaker 1>within a couple of weeks of him being released, somebody

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<v Speaker 1>was going to jump on that and say we got

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback that can take advantage of his skill set. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought somebody would sign him by now. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know the deal what's going on. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>the Ravens were interested, it didn't sound like that's what

0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:27.920
<v Speaker 1>he wanted if from a contract standpoint, didn't want a

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<v Speaker 1>two year deal, that's just what the story said. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I don't know, but yeah, I'm surprised. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he'd maybe be on a team by now. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to pitch it like I'm smarter than everybody. If,

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<v Speaker 1>like the day he was cut, I would have guessed

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<v Speaker 1>that he would be signed by now for sure. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you think about it, I mean, what did the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys just say yesterday? They're like, well, we like our

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<v Speaker 1>tight ends and we like our safeties. We're not ready

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<v Speaker 1>for all that. And also keep in mind that up

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<v Speaker 1>until recently, I think, like yesterday, you couldn't sign free

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<v Speaker 1>agents without it affecting your compics strategy. So that thing,

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<v Speaker 1>combined with the fact that you know, you just had

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<v Speaker 1>your draft, everybody's high on you know, they're like, we

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<v Speaker 1>like our guy, Like we got our guy Michael Gallup

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<v Speaker 1>in the third round. He was a second round about

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<v Speaker 1>like that type of thing. So you know, teams kind

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<v Speaker 1>of have rose colored glasses at this time of year.

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<v Speaker 1>But let OTAs start, let somebody get hurt or what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, He'll be on a team by the time

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<v Speaker 1>training camp roll you think before training camp, because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>starting to think at this point maybe it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things where teams wait till they get to camp,

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<v Speaker 1>and as soon as they have that first major injury,

0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:31.040
<v Speaker 1>then his phone starts ringing, but not far. I'm wondering, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Day's right, Like after you get past that

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<v Speaker 1>first first couple of weeks of him being a free agent,

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<v Speaker 1>then I think teams kind of look at it like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's really beating down his door, so we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to make a decision right now. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be It's gonna have to be something that spurs

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<v Speaker 1>them to do it. I don't think they just do

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<v Speaker 1>it to do it. And what may spur them to

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<v Speaker 1>do it is you get that injury. Maybe it happens

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<v Speaker 1>in OTAs or mini camps, maybe doesn't happen until training camp. Injuries,

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<v Speaker 1>arrests and and just the I mean, you go through

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<v Speaker 1>twelve offseason practices and you're like, he's not like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>these guys aren't as good as we thought they were.

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<v Speaker 1>So how many teams do you think he'll be on

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<v Speaker 1>the radar? I mean, do you think there's thirty one

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<v Speaker 1>teams or thirty two. No, I think there's I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's honestly about four teams he's on their I really don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't He's not coming back here. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>so either, But I think there's probably four teams where

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<v Speaker 1>he's probably on their radar, honestly. Now, of course, what

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<v Speaker 1>could change it once again, you get some injuries to

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<v Speaker 1>key receivers, and now he becomes you know, let's say

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<v Speaker 1>a team like Atlanta that would never be in the

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<v Speaker 1>market right now with what they got, Let's say Julio

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<v Speaker 1>goes down, maybe they consider that, you know. So, I

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<v Speaker 1>think right now, as it stands, I don't think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people who have him on the radar,

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think that that likely will change once

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<v Speaker 1>you get the training camp. And at this point it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably a smart idea for Desk to wait because his

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<v Speaker 1>options will open up more the more they have Teams

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<v Speaker 1>have a chance to evaluate their players, see if anybody

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<v Speaker 1>gets hurt, that kind of stuff, and then he goes

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<v Speaker 1>in saves the day. You know, Yeah, it happens every summer.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I wouldn't guessed he'd be on a team by now,

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<v Speaker 1>but I bet he'll be on a team before four

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<v Speaker 1>teams go to training camp. Ye wait too long? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he needs to get in there and learn

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<v Speaker 1>the offense, workout all those things matter, only the workout stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean get in there. I mean, this has

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<v Speaker 1>been the same offense for seven or eight years now,

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<v Speaker 1>and he had issues sometimes with moving around to different places.

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<v Speaker 1>So he needs to learn the offense. Ye. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit of draft. I want to go

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<v Speaker 1>back a couple of years and we're gonna give draft

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<v Speaker 1>grades at the time. The draft grades really should be

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<v Speaker 1>given a few years after we've had a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>see these guys play. I want to start with twenty fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think the best way to handle this is

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go through the list and I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to tell me each of you to tell me

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<v Speaker 1>if the player was above, at or below stand expectations. So,

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<v Speaker 1>based upon the expectations of where they were drafted, what

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<v Speaker 1>you thought of where they were drafted, did they exceed that,

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<v Speaker 1>were they right where they should have been, or were

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<v Speaker 1>they below that? All right, before we get started, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>let you guys handle this because fourteen you were still

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what their expectations were back then. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the players they are now. But to be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>this was my first draft that I was fully involved

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<v Speaker 1>and not knowledgeable of all the players. So you'll sit

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<v Speaker 1>back with me and I'll say this. You can't have

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<v Speaker 1>a complete cop out here because you know what expectations

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<v Speaker 1>are of a first round pick, a second round pick,

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<v Speaker 1>a seventh round pick, and so you know now you

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<v Speaker 1>know that they were actually has a great Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a really good point. I can just give you the

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<v Speaker 1>number of the round and you can let's go, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, here we go, first round, Zack Martin above

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<v Speaker 1>at or below expectations? What's above above? Can you go?

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<v Speaker 1>Three above? One of the best picks of all time,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best picks in Cowboys history, especially give

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<v Speaker 1>reasons the alternative exactly. That's it, tell me the alternative.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Johnny Manziel and it was the owner who

0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:21.359
<v Speaker 1>wanted him, and he really wanted Johnny Manziel and he

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<v Speaker 1>had to be talked out of It was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the turning points I think of Steven Jones really taking

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<v Speaker 1>over a little bit more of this, not not completely,

0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:33.879
<v Speaker 1>but just having a little bit more, say more control Jerry.

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<v Speaker 1>And you gotta give Jerry credit too. It's hard for

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<v Speaker 1>somebody like his age to say I'm gonna step back

0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:41.479
<v Speaker 1>and do things differently. He would have picked him ten

0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:44.880
<v Speaker 1>years ago. He wanted him that bad, just they wanted

0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Jack Martin and to pick flashy quarterback and a guard

0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:52.720
<v Speaker 1>who doesn't like to talk totally different was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best picks of all time. He's one of those

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<v Speaker 1>players that, I mean, he has everything you would want

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<v Speaker 1>in a player as far as how he plays, work ethic,

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<v Speaker 1>the way he behaves off the field, doesn't really have issues,

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<v Speaker 1>just a great guy on and off the field. I

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<v Speaker 1>tried to ask him yesterday about his new contract and

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<v Speaker 1>just threw it out kind yeah, I mean, I'm you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of weird. Shedding the impliyer ye strikes

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<v Speaker 1>back mentality. Let's say, let's let's get after it. Yeah,

0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:25.479
<v Speaker 1>all right, second pick that year, that number thirty four

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<v Speaker 1>is defensive end Marcus Lawrence above at or below above.

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<v Speaker 1>But also you have to consider that you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a third round pick from that draft because of him too,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's even more pricey for a second and third

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<v Speaker 1>essentially is it above this this past season? Really? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you could debate about this if he hadn't just

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<v Speaker 1>posted fourteen and a half sacks. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>although I will say one you playoff game, one you

0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:56.879
<v Speaker 1>one of two playoff games in recent memory. Um, he

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<v Speaker 1>had a very solid season in twenty fifteen that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of gets forgotten about because people Randy Gregory and Greg

0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Hardy just kind of torpedoed that pass rush Um played

0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:10.080
<v Speaker 1>through injury like they all, I mean above, And he's

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<v Speaker 1>a good locker room guy, good character guy. UM pro

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<v Speaker 1>bowler last year kind of I mean, like I said,

0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:19.520
<v Speaker 1>he's been trending even higher later in his career and

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<v Speaker 1>you'd prefer to not have to put the tag on him,

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<v Speaker 1>but definitely well worth that move to get him, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>What run did you say? Second? High second? Second pick

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<v Speaker 1>of number thirty four, the first rounder. Give me another

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<v Speaker 1>year to make my whole analysis. No, I was just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say, it's just reliability type of thing, you know, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>can you fully rely on him? We're starting to find out.

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<v Speaker 1>And last year obviously was awesome and amazing. He's an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing player. But is he long term reliable? I don't

0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:53.080
<v Speaker 1>know yet. Yes, we don't know if he's got a

0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:55.399
<v Speaker 1>long term future here either. For that matter, in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen he was that is that the year? Suspend it

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<v Speaker 1>for the four year? Did he miss other games due

0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:04.080
<v Speaker 1>to injury that year? No? And that's thirteen. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>know that I'm saying now here though, I guess what

0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:08.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to see? His thirteen high missed like eight.

0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:14.040
<v Speaker 1>He came back in November, okay, miss he played seven games? Yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess My point is I'm trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>the string. So if you're talking about reliability, it's now

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<v Speaker 1>been it's now been a year a season plus, which

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<v Speaker 1>is twelve games that he's been reliable, reliable, reliably there

0:24:26.800 --> 0:24:29.080
<v Speaker 1>and those four games at beginning season were not about injury.

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<v Speaker 1>That was to me kind of an adbiration. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>you know, those guys go so far out of there

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm all credit due to him, but they make

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<v Speaker 1>sure to praise him, like he could have gone on

0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:43.360
<v Speaker 1>I R in sixteen or at the very least sat out,

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<v Speaker 1>and he didn't, and his numbers were down because of it.

0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:48.359
<v Speaker 1>But he was there to be to play and start

0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:51.680
<v Speaker 1>and be a part of that team. Sorry, I think

0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:54.800
<v Speaker 1>he's at the expectation. I think he is because if

0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:57.080
<v Speaker 1>you would he they move up to trade him, and

0:24:57.119 --> 0:24:59.440
<v Speaker 1>that night that they're excited about getting this second round

0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:01.920
<v Speaker 1>pick at high second round and they lost their third

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<v Speaker 1>and to say, hey, in four years, he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>average less than six sacks a year. He's at twenty

0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:09.440
<v Speaker 1>three and a half. That he hasn't. I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not sitting there even at six a year. I think that, Yeah,

0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:14.680
<v Speaker 1>that's a monster year and there's reasons for it. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think that he's he's at expectations pretty end of

0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:20.040
<v Speaker 1>the season. Ranked was it in sacks? Was a third

0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 1>at the end of this season? Yeah? Yeah, you know,

0:25:22.960 --> 0:25:26.840
<v Speaker 1>any second Campbell beat him out. Yeah, I think as

0:25:26.880 --> 0:25:29.399
<v Speaker 1>he was second, it was him, Chandler Jones and Campbell.

0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:32.040
<v Speaker 1>If you would have said the night of that draft. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy in four or five years whatever it is,

0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:36.800
<v Speaker 1>five years, Yeah, he's going to lead. He's gonna be

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:39.879
<v Speaker 1>second in the league in sacks. I would argue that

0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:42.600
<v Speaker 1>that's probably a little bit above what you would expect

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<v Speaker 1>from a second round pass rusher. Would you guys agree

0:25:45.440 --> 0:25:49.160
<v Speaker 1>with that? But again, thirty thirty, you're talking thirty four

0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 1>or not fifty, and that's a different We also know

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:53.800
<v Speaker 1>we all sat pick seventy whatever. We also know in

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<v Speaker 1>most drafts first round grades in the round nineteen eighteen, seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was as great as he as they thought

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<v Speaker 1>he would be before that that year, this last year,

0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:07.280
<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't have needed to draft Taco. They wouldn't need

0:26:07.400 --> 0:26:09.560
<v Speaker 1>more depth there. So you're saying, if you take the

0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 1>body of the body of not just that one year,

0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:13.880
<v Speaker 1>if you take the body, and I think I'm glad

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:16.160
<v Speaker 1>that we're going this way as opposed to a great

0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:18.720
<v Speaker 1>rookie year that's gone down. So, I mean, I'm not

0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:20.359
<v Speaker 1>we're not hating on him. I just think this is

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<v Speaker 1>it's at at is probably fair at maybe a little

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:26.560
<v Speaker 1>bit above, especially because of the strength. I mean, how

0:26:26.720 --> 0:26:29.359
<v Speaker 1>good last season was, I mean it was phenomenal highest

0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:32.600
<v Speaker 1>sack total since Steaware was on the team. So okay uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Next one's fourth round pick at one nineteen was lineback

0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:41.280
<v Speaker 1>at a linebacker Anthony Hitchins above a way above fourth

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 1>round pick. Fourth round pick criticized that nobody, nobody liked

0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:47.960
<v Speaker 1>that pick when it was made, And I mean even

0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:50.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, me and Brian like who covered that? You're like,

0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 1>we were like, I guess I know who this guy is. Whatever.

0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:57.520
<v Speaker 1>H Kelvin Smith was still on the board. Which Telvin

0:26:57.560 --> 0:26:59.439
<v Speaker 1>Smith has had a better career than Anthony Hichins. That's

0:26:59.480 --> 0:27:03.680
<v Speaker 1>another conversation. Pick one nineteen to be a four year starter,

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 1>never miss due to injury until his final year, jumped

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:10.120
<v Speaker 1>right in as a rookie, played all three spots. I mean,

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what else you want from a fourth

0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:14.960
<v Speaker 1>round pick. Now, I will say this, and I was

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:17.480
<v Speaker 1>talking to Brian about this yesterday. He said, in the

0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:19.680
<v Speaker 1>scouting world, typically if you have a draft, when you

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 1>get three players and what I mean or three guys

0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:25.240
<v Speaker 1>that are contributed contributing to your team in a significant

0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:29.200
<v Speaker 1>way offense or defense in that in their first contract,

0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:31.720
<v Speaker 1>then you feel like that's a hit, that's really funny

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:33.159
<v Speaker 1>that you say that, because look at the rest of

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:35.560
<v Speaker 1>this draft. Yes, that's why I brought it up, because

0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure we put this in context.

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Now when you start talking about the grade of the draft,

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have, missus. It's a part of having fit

0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 1>six seventh round picks is that most of them are

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<v Speaker 1>not going to make it. The statistics across the league

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:48.680
<v Speaker 1>say most of them are not gonna make it. It's

0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:50.920
<v Speaker 1>a bonus when you find one that does. You've got

0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:56.360
<v Speaker 1>five Pro Bowls in your first three picks in four years. Yes, right,

0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 1>So that's if Zach was the only guy from this

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:01.440
<v Speaker 1>draft that was still on the team, it would still

0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:04.000
<v Speaker 1>be an a in mind of how good he is. Yeah, yeah,

0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:08.360
<v Speaker 1>he's the best Garden football um. And but but he's

0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 1>not because you have your best pass rusher too, So

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:13.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and then you know, Hitchin's obviously moved on.

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:15.639
<v Speaker 1>But again, like that's what the draft is, and you

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 1>got years of good production. Like you're not gonna keep

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:20.760
<v Speaker 1>every player, but if you can get good production from

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:24.000
<v Speaker 1>them during the time that they're under contract, that's still win. Yeah, right,

0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:28.639
<v Speaker 1>Devin Street Men Street Ben Gardner never made the team. Oh, sorry,

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I know, and I think it's right. The Devin Street,

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Ben Gardner, Will Smith the linebacker team, modd Dixon defensive back.

0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 1>kN Bishop was a defensive tame who played a little

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 1>bit Kim Bishop, right, he was a bit player for

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 1>like a year. Yeah, and then you got Terrence Mitchell

0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>the defensive back. Good great pick for the Kansas City Chiefs. Right,

0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>turned into a pretty decent kN Bishop layer. I forgot

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 1>about bebop and rock Steady Hey when he Hey, you

0:28:56.440 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 1>know who he is. He's a guy that rock that.

0:28:59.160 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 1>This is how we do. When we did the media

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 1>day and Mindsel Jordan came out, are we allowed to

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 1>say that? Yeah? Anyways, Uh, we just couldn't we use

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 1>the music. Kid Bishop was rocketed. Yeah, one day we

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 1>may actually show you guys at videos. We have better

0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:15.440
<v Speaker 1>videos we've ever been. We just never could release it.

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, it was disappointing that Devin Street didn't do more.

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I think he finished with one touchdown um. But then

0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean you're talking about seventh round picks um, and

0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>he didn't do anything anywhere else either. That's always a

0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 1>good nat I shouldn't say good, but that's that's something

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 1>that letting Terrence Williams go or Terrence Mitchell go and

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 1>have him become a decent starter for another team. Right,

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 1>and then you're like, yeah, maybe we screwed that one up.

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we just didn't do the right I'm made Dixon

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:44.959
<v Speaker 1>made the team and got cut the next day. Ken

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Bishop kicked around for like at least a year. Man,

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I just remember that night they he went Terrence Williams.

0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 1>The story is that they went to Waco, that they

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 1>made the team on Saturday. Yeah, because Baylor was opening

0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 1>its season like that night or when Taylor played a game.

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 1>He went down. They were Terrence and they were like

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 1>we gotta get back eight am Sunday morning. You gotta

0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:06.600
<v Speaker 1>get back. And Terrence got back and the mod was like,

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I'll get a ride there and he didn't. And that

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 1>was the last straw. And that was his rookie year.

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 1>And so he was that your rookie year as a

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 1>seventh round pick who made the team. And he he

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 1>just sleep. He was just a head hunter. He would

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 1>have lost so much money though, because he was gonna

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:26.680
<v Speaker 1>get fined. He didn't know how to play any other way. Yeah,

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:29.240
<v Speaker 1>all right, let's move on. Let's talk about twenty fifteen.

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:31.560
<v Speaker 1>So I guess, just to wrap that one up, if

0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 1>you look at the two thousand and fifteen draft, let's

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 1>do it just for the heck of it. Let's give

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 1>it a grade. Let's go around the table, lamber ay A, okay,

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 1>A plus, okay A. Because you've got your one of

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 1>your your top two defensive players on the team, and

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 1>you're I don't know, it's hard to say Zach marge

0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 1>one of your top offensive players, but he's the most

0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 1>consistent if you look at if you was that hard

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 1>to say, No, Well, yeah, you've got You've got Tying,

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:05.680
<v Speaker 1>and you've got and you've got Zeke and all this

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:10.960
<v Speaker 1>stuff right now in terms of production, availability, Yeah, everything.

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think he's he's probably the best player

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 1>on this team. Yeah, I mean, we had that argument.

0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:18.239
<v Speaker 1>We had that argument about Zeke and Tyring last year.

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 1>It's been an All Pro every year, first or second

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:24.280
<v Speaker 1>team All Pro, not Pro Bowl All Pro. Yeah, that's

0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:27.479
<v Speaker 1>that's huge, Like that's and then then to have one

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 1>of the top pass rushers in the league, that's great.

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Now Hitchens is on another team, but but you got

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Speaker 1>the use of production very great. That was a good draft. Okay, good,

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 1>let's move on fifteen. Um. Let's start first the first

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 1>round pick Byron Jones at above or below expectations. Hello, Hello, Hello,

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 1>but not as drastically below as the hive mind wants

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 1>you to think like. It's. I mean, it's been a

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 1>disappointing run for him to this point. He's got two picks,

0:31:57.640 --> 0:32:01.960
<v Speaker 1>he's had to move positions, but he's been available, he's played,

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 1>he's made contributions. Again, you're talking about d Law is

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 1>a second round Go well, this dude was only picked

0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:11.200
<v Speaker 1>five spots or six spots in front of d Law,

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 1>So I just I'm not letting him off the hook.

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 1>He's below what you would expect from the twenty seventh

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 1>overall pick, but he is not this like Mo Claiborne

0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:24.280
<v Speaker 1>style horrifically no good, terrible bust in my opinion. And

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:27.000
<v Speaker 1>that's because of placement, right, more so because play well.

0:32:27.040 --> 0:32:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Placement is well, you have to go up and get

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:30.720
<v Speaker 1>him at sitting. Not only that, but he's never missed

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 1>a game. He's great at covering tight ends. He can play,

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 1>he's played in the slot, he's played dime, he's played safety,

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 1>he's played corner like he can He's done a lot

0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 1>of different stuff for you, so have a hard time

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 1>just saying he's terrible. He's clear. I mean, he hasn't

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:46.040
<v Speaker 1>been benched. He's played every game of his career. He's

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 1>again like a good locker room dude. He's never given

0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 1>you cause for concern off the field. Well, I have

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 1>a column idea that I was I've been thinking of.

0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I want to throw it out here,

0:32:58.280 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, let's go and write it right here on

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:05.000
<v Speaker 1>the air. I'm basically comparing him, possibly comparing him to

0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:09.480
<v Speaker 1>flows Ll Adams. Here's why Flozell Adams played four years.

0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 1>He was a thirty seventh overall pick, not far from

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 1>where this is where Byron was picked. Mood positions a

0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:18.560
<v Speaker 1>little bit was guard, and he knew he was gonna

0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 1>be a tackle, moved him to guard. It was not

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:24.560
<v Speaker 1>very good. After four years, it was like, okay, Parcel

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 1>shows up two thousand and three, says, what's your top priority.

0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:31.400
<v Speaker 1>He's like, well, my top priority is the sign flows

0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Ll Adams and everyone was like, what he's like his

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 1>premiere left tackle. You can't that. They don't grow on trees.

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 1>You can find him like wow, Okay, and he was

0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 1>really and he was right obviously. After that kind of

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 1>gave them the confidence. Flows out went five Pro Bowls

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 1>of the next six years. The only year he didn't

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:52.800
<v Speaker 1>because he got hurt. I mean, he was a premiere

0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:56.120
<v Speaker 1>left tackle, one of the best enfranchise history. And I

0:33:56.280 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 1>wonder if Christopher Shard came in and said, oh, okay,

0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 1>well let's let's let you know, Byron go why didn't

0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 1>you write this go up right now, get off and say,

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:09.600
<v Speaker 1>dear option And I was like, no, no, no, no, no,

0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 1>we need this guy. That's the kind of corner. I like,

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 1>how many small corners did you see from Seattle? Not really,

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:17.919
<v Speaker 1>you saw big bulky corners, long arms. He's like moving

0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:19.920
<v Speaker 1>the corner. This is a guy, and maybe this is

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 1>we'll see you know. But I mean, Christoph Shardon knows

0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:27.279
<v Speaker 1>what he's doing. He looked at him and I've seen

0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:29.400
<v Speaker 1>it before, right, guy everybody was kind of down on

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:32.880
<v Speaker 1>could totally change things around. So I'm wondering about that.

0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:35.799
<v Speaker 1>That's really that's great. It's a great point. And now, um,

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Byron is one of the smartest dudes on this team. Uh,

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:42.440
<v Speaker 1>he's a good guy. He's he's the most absurdly athletic

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:45.719
<v Speaker 1>person I've ever met, Like his career is gonna last

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 1>as long as he wants it to, Like he could

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:50.840
<v Speaker 1>be playing up to toward forty like Terrence Newman as

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:53.239
<v Speaker 1>far as I'm concerned. So I have a hard time

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:57.359
<v Speaker 1>in closing the book on his viability heading into year four. Yeah,

0:34:57.360 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm very excited. That's one of the guys. I'm very

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:01.440
<v Speaker 1>excited to watch a training camp this year because I

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 1>want to see if given be careful though, because he

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:08.400
<v Speaker 1>was lights out at training camp last year. I mean,

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:10.279
<v Speaker 1>it was amazing. The only thing, the only thing I

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 1>want to see though, is I want to see how

0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:15.880
<v Speaker 1>he adapts to playing. If them saying you are going

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:18.239
<v Speaker 1>to be a cornerback, how does he adapt to that?

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:20.879
<v Speaker 1>And I want to see how does that affect those

0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 1>other younger guys, Like are they how do they work?

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Are they going to try to work them all in?

0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Or is it going to be Byron's gonna solidify one

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:29.319
<v Speaker 1>of these spots, which means one of those other two

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 1>guys will not be starting. Maybe one gets pushed back

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:34.279
<v Speaker 1>to safety. Who knows all I'm saying is I think

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:36.359
<v Speaker 1>that's going to be one of the more intriguing things

0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:38.880
<v Speaker 1>to follow this year at training campus, how Byron adjust

0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:41.520
<v Speaker 1>and how that affects all the other younger guys that

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:43.719
<v Speaker 1>are on this roster at cornerback. You know, that's something

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:46.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't get, Like, how do you get to play?

0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:49.880
<v Speaker 1>You're doing super good at training camp and then it

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:53.360
<v Speaker 1>just kind of disappears throughout the season without the presence

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 1>of an injury, you know, affecting the way he plays

0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 1>because because he goes up and he shuts down Alan

0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:00.640
<v Speaker 1>hearns and everyone thinks of this is really great, and

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, Larry FitzGeralds on the other side,

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, wait a second, like a little different

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 1>we don't have. That's one way that happens. We've all

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:11.400
<v Speaker 1>been burned by Mold Claiborne. You're right, Mo Claiborne a

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 1>couple years ago. It's no different than if you're if

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 1>you play somebody the same, the same person every day,

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:18.759
<v Speaker 1>no matter how good they are, you're gonna get good

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:21.600
<v Speaker 1>enough to cover them. Right. So it's like the vision

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:24.000
<v Speaker 1>playing why the teams in the division plays so well

0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 1>exactly Like if I'm playing my brother when I was

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:28.400
<v Speaker 1>a kid, my brother might be able to kick everybody

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:30.839
<v Speaker 1>in the neighborhoods. But whatever. But if I'm playing him

0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:32.839
<v Speaker 1>every day, even though he's older, I'm gonna get better

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:34.200
<v Speaker 1>at playing him because i know what he likes to

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:35.759
<v Speaker 1>do and I'm gonna be able to stop that. So

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 1>God can look really good in training camp and then

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:41.920
<v Speaker 1>he gets the other teams and had Olympics. I believe

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:45.279
<v Speaker 1>that we went all in sounds exhausting, all in, Dave,

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 1>that's not your thing. No, You're like, I'm so out

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:50.879
<v Speaker 1>on that. No, all right, um, let's move on. Let's

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 1>talk about the second round pick at number sixty, Randy Gregory.

0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Obviously Bello. I mean this a who's the next one?

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Nobody nobody loves, Nobody loves Will McClay more than I do.

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:05.400
<v Speaker 1>I think he's one of the best things that's happened

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 1>to this franchise. But I mean this, spoiler alert, this

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:11.560
<v Speaker 1>is not a great draft. It's just not because following

0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Randy Gregory ran third round, Jazz one is Jazz Green.

0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 1>So you got I mean Randy Gregory, who has played

0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 1>in like nine career games with one sack. Chaz Green,

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:26.279
<v Speaker 1>who I believe the line of logic on him when

0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:27.880
<v Speaker 1>he was picked, was that he would be the air

0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 1>apparent to Doug Free. Uh. He missed his rookie year

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 1>with an injury. He played in two games in twenty sixteen,

0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:39.200
<v Speaker 1>and then last year we know what happened. He's the

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:42.640
<v Speaker 1>only U you know, the quarterbacks have records. He's got,

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:46.080
<v Speaker 1>He's oz and one. He has an L on his name. Well,

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:48.279
<v Speaker 1>to here's the fans, it wasn't because of the way

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 1>he played. What I'm talking about Randy Gregory. Oh I

0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:54.840
<v Speaker 1>was talking about Oh, I thought he went back to

0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Randy Oh. I mean we can go back to want

0:37:57.480 --> 0:38:02.040
<v Speaker 1>to sorry, but they talked, well, I'll talk crap about

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Randy Gregory all the time. I mean, not really crap,

0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:07.680
<v Speaker 1>but because of you know, the excitement people have bringing

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:09.880
<v Speaker 1>him by him. But again to his defense, what I

0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:13.359
<v Speaker 1>was saying, it wasn't necessarily an issue of him being

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 1>a bad player on the field. No, who wrote the

0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:17.840
<v Speaker 1>story astray you? Yeah, well, let's talk about it. But

0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 1>that's but he didn't fall in the draft because he

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:23.719
<v Speaker 1>was a bad player, right yeah, well yeah, I mean

0:38:24.320 --> 0:38:28.520
<v Speaker 1>his name came up in the press conference. There's not

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:33.520
<v Speaker 1>really it's I mean, Gregory's gaining steam in his attempt

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:35.920
<v Speaker 1>to apply for reinstatement. I know, you know a lot

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 1>of people in and around the organization are going to

0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:43.480
<v Speaker 1>bat for him, Tyrone Crawford, Shaun Lee Um. He has

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 1>not applied yet, and bait. I mean, the Cowboys did

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:49.480
<v Speaker 1>not offer a lot of clarity about that process. It

0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:53.240
<v Speaker 1>sounds like Stephen Jones said, we're just bystanders until further notice.

0:38:54.000 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 1>M So that's between Randy and the league and I

0:38:57.160 --> 0:38:59.320
<v Speaker 1>don't really know a whole lot other than that. I

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:02.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it sounds like he's got a good shot

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:04.799
<v Speaker 1>at it. Whenever it actually happens, well, you know, we'll

0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 1>see if he's at training camp. That's pretty much. But

0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:09.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean I made my thoughts on it pretty clear yesterday.

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if he can get back, you don't have

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:13.400
<v Speaker 1>a whole lot to lose by giving him a chance. So,

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 1>but you'd be making an awfully big mistake if you're

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:20.200
<v Speaker 1>like counting on it as a key to your success, right.

0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:23.600
<v Speaker 1>I would have said zero percent chance, but you know

0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:27.000
<v Speaker 1>it's still kind of small percent chance. But I like

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:30.080
<v Speaker 1>what we saw out of Cleveland. Josh Gordon was able

0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:31.560
<v Speaker 1>to do it. He was able to play. I never

0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:35.399
<v Speaker 1>thought that would happen, and he played pretty well. He's

0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 1>a freak. But you know what, so Randy Gregory can

0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:39.960
<v Speaker 1>be kind of considered that too, wasn't he wasn't he

0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:44.600
<v Speaker 1>better before that than Randy. Yes, Josh Gordon led the league,

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:46.440
<v Speaker 1>And that's my point. Like so, I think it, and

0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I think yesterday that was the point of the question

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 1>that I ask you guys when I say it, are

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 1>there And I know Rob came back and said, Dwight Freeney,

0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:53.960
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, Blake Freeney's going to Hall of Fame. Like,

0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:57.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we've seen yet Randy Gregory before that,

0:39:57.880 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 1>he hadn't developed yet to where you even say he's

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 1>a good player now. Like so now him coming back

0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:06.080
<v Speaker 1>after being out, that's the part where I just have

0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:10.000
<v Speaker 1>very low expectations of what that's fine. Throw him in

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 1>on that mix of preseason games he was he was

0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:16.880
<v Speaker 1>destroying second and third team tackles, getting all these sacks,

0:40:16.920 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 1>and then didn't get one the rest of the season.

0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:22.360
<v Speaker 1>So he did get hurt in the season opener, Okay,

0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:24.880
<v Speaker 1>but I'm just I mean, okay, other ten games, I

0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:27.239
<v Speaker 1>feel like, well, he didn't he missed like the month

0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:29.400
<v Speaker 1>and a half half. He actually he did well with

0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:34.080
<v Speaker 1>some pressures. He wasn't bad guys. Guys like the guys

0:40:34.200 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 1>that big who can bend like that don't grow on trees.

0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:38.520
<v Speaker 1>That's all I know. And that's why he's gonna get

0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:40.719
<v Speaker 1>another shot at this if they I mean, that's and

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:43.560
<v Speaker 1>should like, I don't think anybody's saying that he needs

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:45.759
<v Speaker 1>to put on weight. I'm just gonna keep the joke there.

0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:47.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he does, he needs to put on some weight. Well,

0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:50.239
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen the guy since December of twenty six

0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:54.960
<v Speaker 1>just as a player. He needed to add yeah, yeah, frame,

0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:58.320
<v Speaker 1>And there's probably a reason why he couldn't. I don't know.

0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:01.319
<v Speaker 1>It's I don't Jerry Jerry Jones had a great quote

0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:03.279
<v Speaker 1>about it a month or two ago where he was like,

0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:05.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, he needs to do this, this and this

0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:07.200
<v Speaker 1>and get better as a player in YadA, YadA, YadA,

0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 1>And he was like, but he's a hell of a

0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:12.239
<v Speaker 1>football player, and like that's where this whole conversation goes

0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:15.160
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0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:17.480
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<v Speaker 1>from what life through at him. It projected a rugged,

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<v Speaker 1>Right here in Texas, there's still the unofficial crowd of

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<v Speaker 1>all self respecting Cowboys, and Stetson is proud to be

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<v Speaker 1>on the field with America's team. Find a retailer nearest

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<v Speaker 1>to you at Stetson dot com slash Cowboys. What does

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<v Speaker 1>it mean to be a Dallas Cowboys fan? It means

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<v Speaker 1>you've got the passion of the heart to do. You're

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<v Speaker 1>part supporting the Boys no matter what. That's why when

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<v Speaker 1>the game's on the line, you're on your feet, whether

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<v Speaker 1>you're at home or in the stands. Actually, you're more

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<v Speaker 1>than a fan. You are a member of Cowboys Nation,

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<v Speaker 1>and so is at and T doing their part to

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<v Speaker 1>keep you connected to America's team all season. Law at

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<v Speaker 1>and T is a proud member of Cowboys Nation. Back

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<v Speaker 1>to the Break, Welcome back to the final segment of

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<v Speaker 1>The Break, live from the SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star. Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Nick, I wasn't ready for that talk about

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:36.719
<v Speaker 1>some underwear, all right. You know when we go on

0:43:36.800 --> 0:43:39.200
<v Speaker 1>the road for road trips, they give us our hotel.

0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:42.799
<v Speaker 1>Even they have different messages, sometimes that cowboy themed one

0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:46.040
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes they say like win or focus or squeeze

0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:48.440
<v Speaker 1>the rock, which could be in something else, but that

0:43:48.719 --> 0:43:51.440
<v Speaker 1>protect the Ball is one that we get and nobody

0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:55.000
<v Speaker 1>really does that better in underwear than Tommy John. Tommy

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<v Speaker 1>John is the official ball carrier of the Dallas Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>Come to underwear, so to me depends on who you

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<v Speaker 1>are Tommy John, No adjustments needed. Shot Exclusive Cowboys Underwear

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<v Speaker 1>Protect the Ball. I like that. I don't think I

0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:17.560
<v Speaker 1>ever got that on one of my room keys though.

0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Did you pick the ball? Just whatever those messages are,

0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:22.800
<v Speaker 1>we get all the time. I fight I just like

0:44:22.920 --> 0:44:26.120
<v Speaker 1>it when it says be relentless, good night's sleep or whatever. No,

0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:29.480
<v Speaker 1>the ball doesn't really mean much for you. I'm not

0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:32.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not playing. Yeah, yeah, okay, all right, let's jump

0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 1>back into this. Tommy John is and Tommy John always

0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:38.600
<v Speaker 1>protects the ball. We got it, Nick, Thanks appreciate good

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<v Speaker 1>twelve And it was twelve that was that was up there.

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<v Speaker 1>That was like a nine. Tell me to nine point three?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, all right, nine point three. We really have

0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:48.200
<v Speaker 1>to start doing that. We should. If you want it, twelve,

0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 1>hand it over here. Hey, they did come out with

0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:58.560
<v Speaker 1>some female underwear. They did. Apparently haven't received any, but

0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 1>I want to know what all the fuss is about. Well,

0:45:00.840 --> 0:45:04.200
<v Speaker 1>we'll just wait because if that's the case, somebody on

0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:06.279
<v Speaker 1>this team, we'll figure out a way to get some

0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:09.839
<v Speaker 1>to everybody. So I would imagine we're on it. We'll

0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:11.200
<v Speaker 1>make a phone call, see what we can do. How

0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 1>about that? All right? All right, let's jump back and

0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:16.440
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about two thousand and fifteen. Uh, the twenty

0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:19.360
<v Speaker 1>and fifteen draft we've talked about Byron Jones, Randy Gregory,

0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:23.279
<v Speaker 1>and Chaz Green, all three you guys said performed below expectations.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's move to the fourth round pick at one twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>The Cowboys select Damien Wilson above below or at expectations?

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<v Speaker 1>This is an interesting one. Is he below because he

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<v Speaker 1>really hasn't been that good? Or is he below because

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:41.359
<v Speaker 1>he was drafted in the same spot a year later

0:45:41.640 --> 0:45:45.280
<v Speaker 1>from the same conference, at the same position as Anthony Hitchins,

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<v Speaker 1>who was above. We all agreed vastly exceeded his expectations.

0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:53.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean, he's okay, he's been. He's

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<v Speaker 1>been a spot starter and a contributor all four years

0:45:56.760 --> 0:46:01.000
<v Speaker 1>he played, or all three years to this point. He's

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<v Speaker 1>big on special teams. Like I said, he's started at

0:46:03.880 --> 0:46:06.200
<v Speaker 1>SAM He's played pretty well there at times, He's filled

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<v Speaker 1>in in a couple other spots. Never been good enough

0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:11.440
<v Speaker 1>to earn more of a role. And by this point

0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:13.160
<v Speaker 1>in his career, if he was going to he I

0:46:13.200 --> 0:46:15.759
<v Speaker 1>feel like he would have made that leap. The thing

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<v Speaker 1>with the arrest last summer kind of not great. So

0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:23.160
<v Speaker 1>I just I've said this a while ago. Nothing has changed.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, those to the top three moments or that

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<v Speaker 1>you think of anything relating to Damian Wilson are all negative.

0:46:30.160 --> 0:46:32.839
<v Speaker 1>You know, he had the paintball incident before he had

0:46:34.120 --> 0:46:36.279
<v Speaker 1>parking lot incident, which was a lot more than that,

0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:39.279
<v Speaker 1>gave up a game winning touchdown and you know to

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<v Speaker 1>running back out of the backfield of the Saints. I mean,

0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:44.120
<v Speaker 1>he hasn't had when the difference making things have not

0:46:44.280 --> 0:46:46.279
<v Speaker 1>been a good thing for him. So no, that's I

0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:49.800
<v Speaker 1>was laying all that out there for the sake of

0:46:49.880 --> 0:46:53.120
<v Speaker 1>playing Devil's advocate. It's still probably fair to say below,

0:46:53.360 --> 0:46:56.160
<v Speaker 1>but it's like a little bit more production. When he

0:46:56.280 --> 0:46:58.799
<v Speaker 1>was drafted, I think the expectation was, at the very

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<v Speaker 1>least if and when Hitchens was no longer here, he

0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:04.440
<v Speaker 1>would step right in instead. The Cowboys been a first

0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:06.920
<v Speaker 1>round pick on Layton vander Esh to me around the

0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:09.880
<v Speaker 1>year before. Yeah, to me, those are the things that

0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:12.920
<v Speaker 1>suggests to me that the Cowboys see him as not

0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:16.200
<v Speaker 1>living up to what they're there. Their greatest expectation for

0:47:16.280 --> 0:47:17.839
<v Speaker 1>him would have been. Now, of course, fourth round picks

0:47:17.920 --> 0:47:19.800
<v Speaker 1>or fourth round picks, some of them pan out, some

0:47:19.880 --> 0:47:22.960
<v Speaker 1>of them don't. But I think that coming off of Hitchens,

0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:25.560
<v Speaker 1>it makes it even more apparent that he just wasn't

0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:27.759
<v Speaker 1>that guy. It's more of a contrast, but I mean,

0:47:29.280 --> 0:47:31.320
<v Speaker 1>you need you need players that are gonna like you know,

0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:34.080
<v Speaker 1>he's knew Kyle Wilburg as far as I'm concerned, Like,

0:47:34.160 --> 0:47:36.040
<v Speaker 1>he can start if you need him too, he can play,

0:47:36.160 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 1>he can do stuff on special teams. Um, and that

0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:41.239
<v Speaker 1>doesn't make him a bad pick because he's still on

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<v Speaker 1>the team and contributing. He's just not He's not Anthony Hinchins.

0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:46.799
<v Speaker 1>That's so at that point, do you think it's at

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<v Speaker 1>do you think do you think a fair assessment for

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<v Speaker 1>him is that he's at expectation for a fourth round pick.

0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I think he's below expectations. They draft like you said that,

0:47:55.239 --> 0:47:58.600
<v Speaker 1>they drafted Vanderesh, they signed Joe Thomas in the offseason.

0:47:58.680 --> 0:48:01.960
<v Speaker 1>He's been more productive than then. Um, I mean they

0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:04.319
<v Speaker 1>went back to get Durant Wilson, they went, They've gone.

0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:06.520
<v Speaker 1>You're right, you're not gonna put you don't want to

0:48:06.560 --> 0:48:09.160
<v Speaker 1>put super high expectations on your fourth round pick. But

0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:12.399
<v Speaker 1>that's still a guy that you're hoping can develop into

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<v Speaker 1>a starter. Okay, i'd say below, you're trying to find

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that's not below. It's it's kind of tough. These

0:48:18.719 --> 0:48:22.120
<v Speaker 1>next three will lump him together. Defensive end Ryan Russell, linebacker,

0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Mark Zacha, offensive tackle Lawrence Gibson. I take a little

0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:29.040
<v Speaker 1>bit of offense to that, okay, because Lawrence Gibson never

0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:31.200
<v Speaker 1>played a game for this team, and Ryan Russell was

0:48:31.239 --> 0:48:33.600
<v Speaker 1>cut like one week into his rookie season. I think,

0:48:33.719 --> 0:48:37.480
<v Speaker 1>wasn't he was it that quick? So now he's in

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<v Speaker 1>the practice squad for his rookie year that he played,

0:48:41.040 --> 0:48:43.279
<v Speaker 1>he played one career game here, That's all I know.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's but that's below expectations, right, Well, No, the

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<v Speaker 1>reason I take exception is because Mark me Zacha was

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<v Speaker 1>better than that as a as a seventh round as

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<v Speaker 1>a seventh round pick who was a red shirt because

0:48:55.160 --> 0:48:57.680
<v Speaker 1>he had torn his ACL and was basically a wash

0:48:57.800 --> 0:49:00.520
<v Speaker 1>for his rookie year. He came back, was on the

0:49:00.560 --> 0:49:03.520
<v Speaker 1>team in sixteen, played a role on special teams, made

0:49:03.560 --> 0:49:06.359
<v Speaker 1>the team, um made some plays, and they brought him

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<v Speaker 1>back again until they eventually cut him the year after that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's so for him, you think it was

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<v Speaker 1>above expectations round pick. I call that above expectations considering

0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:20.239
<v Speaker 1>Lawrence Gibson did not even make the team. I mean,

0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:22.279
<v Speaker 1>seventh round picks don't make the team all and really

0:49:22.320 --> 0:49:24.919
<v Speaker 1>that's at expectations. Seventh round pick is a flyer. You're

0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:27.919
<v Speaker 1>just bringing a guy and you gone, especially a hurt player.

0:49:28.200 --> 0:49:31.319
<v Speaker 1>I put Mark above, and they tried to put him

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<v Speaker 1>on their practice squad this year and he was poached,

0:49:33.560 --> 0:49:35.279
<v Speaker 1>so it's not even like they wanted to get rid

0:49:35.280 --> 0:49:37.239
<v Speaker 1>of him. Yeah. So so Ryan Russell, where do you

0:49:37.280 --> 0:49:40.640
<v Speaker 1>put him below or at expectations below below? Yeah, that's

0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:42.640
<v Speaker 1>a fifth round pick that that was a guy that

0:49:42.719 --> 0:49:46.759
<v Speaker 1>they liked, probably at a Dallas day, and you know

0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:49.239
<v Speaker 1>it probably was never as good as should have been

0:49:49.400 --> 0:49:51.759
<v Speaker 1>taken that high. Okay, and now the highlight of this

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<v Speaker 1>draft Jeff Swain that when the best pick of your

0:49:54.160 --> 0:49:56.400
<v Speaker 1>draft is the last one, that's not great. And he

0:49:56.520 --> 0:50:01.600
<v Speaker 1>hasn't really been good. He's been good enough to I know,

0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:04.800
<v Speaker 1>but I think he has not been good and you

0:50:04.840 --> 0:50:07.000
<v Speaker 1>don't have to raise that high. He hasn't been that good.

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<v Speaker 1>He was picked two thirty then, okay, that sounds good,

0:50:12.160 --> 0:50:14.840
<v Speaker 1>but he's not a difference maker. He had, but a

0:50:14.880 --> 0:50:17.280
<v Speaker 1>seventh pick is not typically going to be a different

0:50:17.560 --> 0:50:20.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give him the arrow up expectations. Yes,

0:50:20.200 --> 0:50:22.040
<v Speaker 1>I thought he was drafted because he was a friend

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<v Speaker 1>of Stephen Jones's daughter or whatever. I thought that was

0:50:24.520 --> 0:50:26.799
<v Speaker 1>the connection or whatever. He was drafted because he played

0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:28.759
<v Speaker 1>a stellar school. You didn't even know who he was,

0:50:28.840 --> 0:50:30.400
<v Speaker 1>and he did not know he was. But that's beside

0:50:30.840 --> 0:50:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Brugler didn't know who he was, right, I mean, but

0:50:34.920 --> 0:50:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Texas didn't use him. They didn't use him at all.

0:50:37.200 --> 0:50:40.399
<v Speaker 1>He has he been better than he thought? Yes, because

0:50:40.400 --> 0:50:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think he'd even make the team. But has

0:50:42.680 --> 0:50:45.120
<v Speaker 1>he been good? Nobody's played a role. He's played a role.

0:50:45.200 --> 0:50:46.960
<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing. I'm the seventh rounder that can

0:50:47.040 --> 0:50:50.520
<v Speaker 1>play a role. To me, that tighten is going to

0:50:50.600 --> 0:50:54.279
<v Speaker 1>be allowed to be good with With Whitten him back,

0:50:54.400 --> 0:50:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I didn't call him back. Hadn't been good, that's not bad,

0:50:58.760 --> 0:51:01.879
<v Speaker 1>not bad. What he hasn't been good, it's not bad.

0:51:02.080 --> 0:51:06.000
<v Speaker 1>That means he was picked two thirty something. He made

0:51:06.040 --> 0:51:08.080
<v Speaker 1>the team on a team where the tight end never

0:51:08.200 --> 0:51:11.880
<v Speaker 1>comes off the field. I remember vividly he converted a

0:51:11.920 --> 0:51:14.279
<v Speaker 1>fourth down in Washington when this team was oo and

0:51:14.360 --> 0:51:17.480
<v Speaker 1>one in twenty sixteen. Right, He's a big part of

0:51:17.600 --> 0:51:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Deck's play action and waggle stuff in twenty sixteen until

0:51:21.239 --> 0:51:24.800
<v Speaker 1>he got hurt, until he got second You can't have

0:51:24.960 --> 0:51:26.680
<v Speaker 1>big part of it. If he can't, can you pull

0:51:26.760 --> 0:51:29.680
<v Speaker 1>up his staff, pull up his damn stats. He was

0:51:29.840 --> 0:51:32.320
<v Speaker 1>he was a part of it. Was he was a

0:51:32.400 --> 0:51:35.640
<v Speaker 1>part like he had a part to play. There's a

0:51:35.719 --> 0:51:39.160
<v Speaker 1>different mass haters right now. There's a big difference of Wait,

0:51:39.239 --> 0:51:41.319
<v Speaker 1>why why does it have to be one or the other?

0:51:41.400 --> 0:51:42.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, why does that have to be black or

0:51:42.440 --> 0:51:44.400
<v Speaker 1>white here? Why if he's not good, does it mean

0:51:44.440 --> 0:51:48.120
<v Speaker 1>he's bad? No? Okay, on a team, it's great, he's been.

0:51:48.200 --> 0:51:51.000
<v Speaker 1>He's been on a team where Jason Witten plays ninety

0:51:51.000 --> 0:51:53.400
<v Speaker 1>seven percent of the snaps. He started six games and

0:51:53.520 --> 0:51:58.160
<v Speaker 1>caught six passes for seventy yards in in in nine weeks.

0:51:58.280 --> 0:51:59.960
<v Speaker 1>What's that? Did you say he was targeted to say

0:52:00.000 --> 0:52:02.160
<v Speaker 1>times and caught six? Now he was his target. He

0:52:02.320 --> 0:52:04.800
<v Speaker 1>was targeted eight times and caught six passes for seventy

0:52:04.920 --> 0:52:08.799
<v Speaker 1>yards nine six starts, nine games, got hurt in Pittsburgh

0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:12.560
<v Speaker 1>and couldn't finish the season. So it gets start. I mean,

0:52:13.200 --> 0:52:18.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm not hating on the guys. End. Yeah, I think

0:52:18.680 --> 0:52:20.920
<v Speaker 1>on this team with who you had a t say

0:52:20.960 --> 0:52:23.640
<v Speaker 1>it was bad either. Remember I'm not saying it's bad.

0:52:23.800 --> 0:52:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know This goes bad, drawing little arrows up

0:52:28.600 --> 0:52:33.080
<v Speaker 1>and down Wilson's name and Jeoff Swain. For me, I

0:52:33.080 --> 0:52:36.960
<v Speaker 1>would just drove a flat arrow, like a flat horizontal line.

0:52:37.200 --> 0:52:42.480
<v Speaker 1>This goes bad. It's not his fault. It's like okay,

0:52:42.719 --> 0:52:47.800
<v Speaker 1>like okay, okay, he no, he what's an arrow? For me?

0:52:48.160 --> 0:52:50.399
<v Speaker 1>He gets an arrow. I didn't think he'd make the team.

0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:52.200
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think he'd be here in three years he has.

0:52:52.360 --> 0:52:54.440
<v Speaker 1>He gets an arrow. But I'm just saying, let's just

0:52:54.560 --> 0:52:56.480
<v Speaker 1>call it what it is. It hasn't been good yet.

0:52:56.640 --> 0:52:59.760
<v Speaker 1>It might be he's gonna get a chance now Again again,

0:52:59.840 --> 0:53:03.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying it's bad. Guy the seventh round pick drafted

0:53:03.320 --> 0:53:06.320
<v Speaker 1>before him never meant. He didn't get a jersey? Was

0:53:06.920 --> 0:53:09.600
<v Speaker 1>rush good last year? Was he good? Yeah? He was

0:53:09.680 --> 0:53:11.600
<v Speaker 1>good in the season and the games and all. That's

0:53:11.680 --> 0:53:14.520
<v Speaker 1>not good. How many backup quarterbacks get to play in

0:53:14.600 --> 0:53:16.760
<v Speaker 1>a game because when it's not because of an injury.

0:53:17.320 --> 0:53:19.439
<v Speaker 1>This is an argument we've had like a dozen times

0:53:19.480 --> 0:53:21.800
<v Speaker 1>on this show. Nick doesn't great on a curve and

0:53:21.840 --> 0:53:24.040
<v Speaker 1>I do Nick. Nick is just like are you good

0:53:24.120 --> 0:53:25.400
<v Speaker 1>or are you're not good? And I'm like you were

0:53:25.440 --> 0:53:27.319
<v Speaker 1>picked ten spots away from the end of the draft

0:53:27.400 --> 0:53:30.160
<v Speaker 1>and you're still here contributing four years later. What's the

0:53:30.280 --> 0:53:32.560
<v Speaker 1>test is? The test is get in the league. Go

0:53:32.680 --> 0:53:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I come from Central Michigan and get in the league

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<v Speaker 1>and make the team. If that's the test, he gets

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<v Speaker 1>an A plus. If the test is now, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>a different test. The test is how you play on

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<v Speaker 1>the field. He gets an incomplete because he didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>to play. That's not his fault. The test is where

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<v Speaker 1>were you take? Like, where did they find you and

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<v Speaker 1>what did you do? That's like Tony Romo gets a

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<v Speaker 1>better grade than quarterbacks that are taken one overall in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, again because of where it all, how it started.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't. Over his course of his career, he didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't get it. But when when you're evaluating it

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of a draft, I'm not saying Tory Romo

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<v Speaker 1>had a better career than Troy Aikman. Don't get me wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, Okay, I think we're all saying the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think would have thought that Swain was Sparks touch up,

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<v Speaker 1>who swam slander. That's pretty much. Oh, I'm sure I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get the you know, I'm gonna get the Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Swain's parents or whatever. But what I'm saying is is

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<v Speaker 1>that at this point it hasn't been good, it hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>really been productive, but he's made the team and he's

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<v Speaker 1>now he's got a chance to really be good because

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<v Speaker 1>he's got an option. But that's all I'm saying. I

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<v Speaker 1>do I think, I do think I agree with Dave

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<v Speaker 1>from standpoint. I think it's above expectations because I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>expect him to be able to come in. And I

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<v Speaker 1>do think he has a role on this team. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean that he plays Jason's role. He didn't

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<v Speaker 1>play Jason Witten's role, but he's played his role, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think his role has been you're gonna be that

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<v Speaker 1>second tight end, You're gonna block some gonna go out

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<v Speaker 1>and catch a few passes like that's been his role.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, done it decent? Okay. But if if you're

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<v Speaker 1>if your child comes at home and you, for whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the reason, you expected them to really fail the test.

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<v Speaker 1>You expect them to fail that because they didn't study

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<v Speaker 1>or this is not their subject or whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 1>and they got a sixty seven or whatever, that's not good.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's better than you thought it was. It's still

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<v Speaker 1>not good. We're gonna get too good. We're gonna keep

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<v Speaker 1>working to get too good. But this isn't the opposite.

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<v Speaker 1>But don't you expect that everyone you draft why to

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<v Speaker 1>be to do their role? Don't you expect it? Because obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that should be the expectation if you're drafting someone, anyone,

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<v Speaker 1>that should be your expectation that they are able to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's compromise. Let's compromise and acknowledge that these are

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<v Speaker 1>two different conversations. They really are in this frame of

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<v Speaker 1>like what are you doing for the Cowboys? That's completely

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<v Speaker 1>different than looking at the twenty fifteen draft class again

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<v Speaker 1>like ninety percent of seventh round picks never make the

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<v Speaker 1>team right, And again you go back to you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a role. You go back to that, you go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the drafty. I married the two. What I

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<v Speaker 1>said was, it's just to put them a kapper on

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<v Speaker 1>how bad that was your Your best draft pick of

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<v Speaker 1>that of that group is Jeff Swing. That is your

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<v Speaker 1>best draft pick. I think Byron Byron is still better,

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<v Speaker 1>but Byron is playing more. But I think but I

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<v Speaker 1>think the how is a better pick is he's getting

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<v Speaker 1>the arrow to say the things that Byron has done.

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<v Speaker 1>He hasn't been great at safety, but as Dave was

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<v Speaker 1>saying earlier, he's shown us something when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>covering tight ends. He's done something well. Who has exceeded

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<v Speaker 1>expectations the most Jeff swam So the guy that's exceeded

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<v Speaker 1>the expectations the most is still not somebody that's contributing

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't contributed much at all. That just goes to show

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<v Speaker 1>how bad the draft was. That's all I'm trying to say.

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<v Speaker 1>It was he's going to be better, He's going to

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<v Speaker 1>get the chance that he's not good, he hasn't been good.

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<v Speaker 1>Six catches for seven yards good, there's nothing to move

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<v Speaker 1>on to. We're done. I thought they did some good things,

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<v Speaker 1>but did they do bad things? It was this is

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<v Speaker 1>an atrocious draft. I mean, it's just it's not good.

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<v Speaker 1>But I like Jeff swiam too. Like the other day

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<v Speaker 1>when you were up your mind, if I told you

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think Jarwin's gonna start if I, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't surprised you. I wouldn't be surprised if any

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<v Speaker 1>one of those guys. I really wouldn't. If I told

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<v Speaker 1>you Connor Williams was the pick at nineteen two weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>how did you feel about it? Pretty good? If I

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<v Speaker 1>tell you Connor Williams is the pick at fifty, how

0:57:22.560 --> 0:57:24.920
<v Speaker 1>do you feel about There we go and when you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about a guy two thirty, I get still doing stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>What third? Right? What if I told you Connor Williams

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<v Speaker 1>was the pick at fifty, but you could have had

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<v Speaker 1>Earl Thomas? Still okay with that? Yeah? I am too,

0:57:38.440 --> 0:57:40.640
<v Speaker 1>actually yeah with that, with that scenario. Yeah, but that

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<v Speaker 1>scenario now, and if you would have gotten the safety

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<v Speaker 1>that that was maybe on the on the board, and

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<v Speaker 1>you tell me I could have gotten Earl Thomas or

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<v Speaker 1>the safety didn't not take Earl Thomas? Right? Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>Conor Williams. That was a Justin Reid. Yeah, oh crap.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say, third round Houston? He went to Houston?

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<v Speaker 1>Um like end of the second beginning? Um, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think Nick, somebody's paying Nick to just mention Earl Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>once per show. I feel like I know he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>keep doing it until we get written up for tampering

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<v Speaker 1>or something. I don't know. Fine, all right, we appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>you guys joining us. We'll be back next week for

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<v Speaker 1>another episode of The Break. Till then for Nick Eatman,

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Hellman, Amber Garcia, I'm Derek Hughltson. This has been

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