1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Everybody, it's time to talk. Well, let's knock. Let's give 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: you the episode name first, Welcome to this edition of 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: The Trendy and the Zights t T Trendy Heavens eight. Okay. 4 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: Shout out to Pat P five five on the discord 5 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: for that one. Sir Elton John inspired a k a uh. 6 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm I'm Miles and I'm I'm joined by the wonderful 7 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: Joel Monique here to co host. You know what I mean, Like, look, 8 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: things got dodgy with the last T Jamie Loftus looks 9 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 1: you quit because she said I was too checked out. 10 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: I apparently smoked too much weed for her to think 11 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: I'm a serious teacher and I anyway, j B only 12 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: says people know that. People at this point you don't. 13 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: If you didn't know that, welcome well and then if 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: you didn't know that, welcome new listeners or people who 15 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: just started listening. Thank you for being here, Joel. Also, 16 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here. Thinks you have 17 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: of me. I'm excited to talk today's trans with you. 18 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's a mix of all kinds of things. Well, 19 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: today is the trans Day of Visibility, so that is 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: a huge, huge, I couldn't have come at a greater 21 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: time considering the number of anti trans bills that are 22 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: being filed all over. I believe Arkansas now has the 23 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: I guess fucked up title of being like one of 24 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: the most inhumane states to trans people. Um and the 25 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: sports ship. I don't know how many times I'm gonna 26 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: be saying this. And I know, Dike Gang, you get 27 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: this ship, and you can tell everybody else it's this 28 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: is not a problem that has so many trans people 29 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: already competing. It's not like just as themselves loving their sport, 30 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: loving putting the time in successful but not necessarily dominating 31 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: like it is just you could just let trans people 32 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: live their damn lives and we could all just be 33 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: happy together. It is wild to me that we would 34 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: knowingly revoke chilled rights and access to health care because 35 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: somebody else is worried about what's happening. That's that child's 36 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: body between them, their doctor and their parents. Leave them 37 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: the hell alone. Yeah, but again it's and it's such 38 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: a slippery slope because again, this is another thing that 39 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: that you're gonna it's just gonna invite all kinds of 40 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: gender policing that is only going to cause more problems 41 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: and more oppressive policies. Uh. That is just you know, 42 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: fucking absolutely antithetical to Yeah, trans kids consider suicide of that, 43 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: I think it's like have attempted. Um, it's it's it's 44 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: upsetting that we can't just support people with them live 45 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: their lives how they want to live them. But this 46 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: is Translate visibility, which is you know, it was kind 47 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: of created in two thousand nine as a counter to 48 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: Translate remembrance trance. To rememberance is like here of the men, women, 49 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: genderless folks we have lost because of their trans identity. Um. 50 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: But Rachel Crandell in two thousand nine, who's a Michigan 51 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: based transgender activist and the executive director of Transgender Michigan, 52 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: with like, listen, we need a day of just visibility 53 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: of of like just being able to see each other, 54 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: see ourselves and other people and and be able to 55 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 1: you know, sort of have the same day like the 56 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: LGBTQ community has and like we have coming out day. Um, 57 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: this is sort of a transgender specific coming out day 58 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: or or just acceptance Day, which is like a beautiful idea. 59 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: But vays Reads wrote this really interesting piece on junkie 60 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: dot com. And since neither Miles nor myself our trans 61 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: I wanted to kind of give some breath in space 62 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: to an actual trans writer talk about their experience. The 63 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: title is called When trans Visibility Comes at the Cost 64 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: of trans Safety. They quote the Undying Poet and Boyer's 65 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:56,839 Speaker 1: Exoneration of Cancer narratives um and basically it is visibility 66 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: and Boyd explains doesn't reliably change the relations of power 67 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: or to who or what is visible, except insofar as 68 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: visible prey are easier to hunt. So and I kind 69 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: of want to talk to you about this idea of 70 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: like obviously, and the author, Yves goes on to explain 71 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: that they think that trans visibility is like a great thing. Look, 72 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: it's really awesome being able to see other people come 73 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 1: out as trans to help Eves recognize their trans nis 74 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: and it helped them to transition. But like, there's also 75 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: it's safety. It's an issue. Not everyone can come out. 76 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: So basically, if you're trans and you're out here, uh, 77 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: you're not ready to be fully out um or you 78 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: can't safely come out, or for whatever reason, you just 79 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: don't want to go there yet. Like in the same 80 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: way that even if you're not out, you know, coming 81 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: out day is still for you. I think that trans 82 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: visibility is still for you even if you're not yet 83 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: ready to be visible. And I would definitely check out 84 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: you Ves's piece. It's really beautiful. As you talk about 85 00:04:55,240 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: their experience, um alarida, little quick quote here, Um, my 86 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: experience is far from you meat. Trans identifications have skyrocketed 87 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: in the wake of the trans tipping point. Uh. That 88 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: was when Times declared the tipping point and put Liver 89 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: and Cox on the cover of their magazine. In Melbourne, 90 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: the Royal Children's Hospital Gender Clinic has seen a significant 91 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: growth and referrals, raising from three thousand seven to two 92 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty per year in seventeen. Similar trends are 93 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: evident overseas. A gallop Pole of fifteen thousand Americans released 94 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: in early twenty one found that Generation Ze bob in 95 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: tween ninety seven and is the queerest generation yet. Hey babies, 96 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: I love high queer babies. Welcome to the world, y'all 97 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: are beautiful. One in six identifies l g B t 98 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: q I A plus, with one point eight percent of 99 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: Gen Z specifically identifying s trans. This is a big 100 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: drump for millennials, of whom one in ten or lgbt 101 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: q I a plus and one point two percent are trans. 102 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: Among baby boomers only one in fifty. But as I discovered, 103 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: and I'm still quoting Vez here, but as I discovered, 104 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: the last December of visibility comes at a cost. Getting 105 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: a few trans people on the screen is not the 106 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: same as transliberation for a marginalized minority like the trans community, 107 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: who faced his proportionate rates of violence and discrimination. Visibility 108 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: alone is not an inherent good. On the contrary, it 109 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: can infect render us more vulnerable to harm as border 110 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: weren't being visible. It makes trans people easier to hunt. Um, so, yeah, 111 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: some things to be thinking about on this trans visibility. 112 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: And on top of that, you know, it's like allies, 113 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: you've got to think that there's another pulse saying that 114 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: only about of Americans no personally know someone who's transgender, 115 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: meaning the other three quarters are probably relying on what 116 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: they're seeing in media to inform their concepts or ideas 117 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: of what a transgender person is. And yeah, like so 118 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: on top of that, it's important that the representation that 119 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: we're sending out there is is actually appropriate and not 120 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: something that is going to other someone and also that 121 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: also is incumbent on other people, and knowing that only 122 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: of the country, even if you do not know someone 123 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: that is trans, like you also have to know that 124 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: you're because of everything we're seeing, you may intersect with 125 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: somebody who's talking some transphobic nonsense and be prepared to 126 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: be able to like sticks of people want to say no, 127 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: Like what you're saying is completely wrong, Like there's not 128 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: a world in which I need to begin saying what 129 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: is wrong with these people? Unless they are literally pose 130 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: an existential threat to my existence, then I mean that. 131 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: Then you understand you have to pick your battles here 132 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: and there. But short of having your life or body 133 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: physically harmed, like, definitely feel free to just be like, hey, 134 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:40,679 Speaker 1: trance kids are not having quote unquote gender affirmative surgery 135 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: at the drop of a hat. Like this is a 136 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: long process. There are qualified officials who can navigate these 137 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: situations that they don't need your I'll just be frank, 138 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: your Bible or your opinion to help determine the best 139 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: health care for this individual. It's unnecessary. You're getting in 140 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: the way, and you're doing a lot more harm than good. 141 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: It's foolish. Um. I have a lot of friends. I've 142 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: got a lot of queer friends who were living a 143 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: very queer lifestyle who are now coming to terms with 144 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: their trans nous. There's a lot that even even in 145 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: the queer community, we're still having to learn a lot 146 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: of sis. Queers are still learning and developing and and 147 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: making amends for past mistakes. It is the whole community 148 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: that is is just now becoming visible and mainstream. And 149 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: in that there, you know, there's a lot of danger, 150 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: but also hopefully a lot of love and a lot 151 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 1: of light. So try to be the love in the 152 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: light that you want to see exactly, and try and 153 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: be somebody that you that any oppressed person would be 154 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: thankful that you were there to be an ally. And 155 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: really educate yourself. That's the biggest thing. I mean, you 156 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 1: can only read and so many other things, but like 157 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: really try and educate yourself and as much as possible, 158 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: especially like things like language, because those are evolutions that 159 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: like you know, I'm myself have to constantly we all 160 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: are going through because we're changing. So you have get 161 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: be aware, you have to keep educating yourself. Don't get 162 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: comfortable and satisfied and thinking, no, like I did my work. 163 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: You know, I'm like, well, no. Become a long way 164 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: since then. But anyway, moving on Georgia Delta, that is 165 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: trending because people are like action will there be um 166 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: Ed Bastion, who's the CEO of Delta, which is based 167 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Um one of the you know obviously because 168 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: of that that hearts Field Jackson is a huge travel 169 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 1: hub because of Delta being based out of there. Um 170 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: before in regards to this bill, he said some ceo 171 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: type ship of how he was like, oh, yeah, I 172 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: mean I know I've been kind of quiet with it, 173 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: but quote, the bill has improved considerably during the legislative process. Sir, 174 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: do we have to fight you? That seems unnecessary, But 175 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: you think it's all out back, Yeah, you can meet 176 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: the whole state of Georgia outside your office at some point. 177 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: So he rightfully got his ass torched because people were like, 178 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: what are y'all? And then on top of it, many 179 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: other CEOs of Georgia based companies have not spoken up 180 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: in a direct way. Coca Cola is heavy, heavy with 181 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: a home depot. I mean, I don't expect much from 182 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: them because they're so, but at the same time as 183 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: national businesses, you do like, where are you standing on this? 184 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: Because this is the most regressive, restrictive voter suppression bill 185 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: that we've seen in ages. If Colcola was a real one, 186 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: they would bring bottles of what is it designy Cocacola owns. 187 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: I just see have the mountain line. Now they don't. 188 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: They should don't disrespect them with designing, you know what 189 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: I mean. Give them Coca Cola, you know what I mean? 190 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: And if they want, maybe give them cash to buy 191 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: better water than designing. It's not disrespect people trying to 192 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: exercise their democratic right with bottles um. But then he 193 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: did come out and says this now quote, I need 194 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: to make it crystal clear that the final bill is 195 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: unacceptable and does not match it Alta's values. The right 196 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: to vote is sacred. It is fundamental to our democracy, 197 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: and those rights not only need to be protected, but 198 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: easily facilitated in a safe and secure manner. It's evident 199 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: that the billing clues provisions that will make it harder 200 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: for many underrepresented voters, particularly black voters, to exercise their 201 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 1: constitutional right to elect their representatives. That is wrong. The 202 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: black person who had to write that I know or 203 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: who obviously the black person who had to vet it. Okay, 204 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: is that good? I'm sorry to make you. I'm sorry 205 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: to create more labor for you in this time. But see, 206 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: I'm I was about to read bell Hooks, but I 207 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: don't have time, so I'm still kind of filling out 208 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: my critical race theory mind. Um. He goes on to say, quote, 209 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: I know this result in Georgia has caused frustration, anger 210 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: and pain for many members of our Delta family. That's 211 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: an understatement. I commit to you that as we move forward, 212 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: Delta will continue to do everything in our power to 213 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 1: hear and protect your voice and your rights, both in 214 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: Georgia nationwide. So what are you willing to do exactly 215 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: up end the country or up end the company and say, okay, 216 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: well we're not gonna we're not operating out of here 217 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: anymore that far, because that's what it is gonna take. 218 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure, because you're dealing with and like a 219 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 1: party who knows it's the fourth quarter with three seconds 220 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: left and they're going all in on this voter suppression 221 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: ship I it is. I would just rather you just 222 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: not say anything because it's so clear to me that 223 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: you're not going to do anything right, it's it's not 224 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 1: in your best interest to do anything, so you're just 225 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: gonna keep your money tight. It's relatively cheap to operate 226 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: out of Georgia. It's why we see a lot of 227 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: companies using to work there. Don't say anything like please 228 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: just leave black people who we don't have time to 229 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: deal with this, And you're wishy, washy blase corporate family jargon. 230 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: It's boring and it's um pulling focus from where it 231 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: needs to be. Uh, you we haven't here that a 232 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: prominent group of seventy two black business execs began circulating 233 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: a letter killing corporate America. They need to be unequivocal 234 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 1: and opposing this legislation. Not just unequivocal, but like, you 235 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: need to put your money where your mouth is. I'm 236 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: really tired of people being like, well, we stand for this. 237 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: Let me get five black people from your corporation far 238 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: above minimum wage, and let's hear what they have to say. 239 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: But let's like, right, when, what's your executive board look like? Oh, 240 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: give me one second of photoshop that real quick? Right? Alright? Right? Uh, 241 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: Antoine get in here and just like wait, no, actually, 242 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: can you just make my hair curlier? You know? You know, so, 243 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: I mean, look, we have all these people, professors and 244 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: all these people, and that it now or the other 245 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: one who was like Afro Cuban or something, oh yeah yeah, yeah, 246 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: I can't remember that person's name. But they also got 247 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: wild with it. Yeah, there's uh, this is an existential threat. Again, 248 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: there is another existence to to extinguish or to try 249 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 1: and and tamper cut back the access to you know, 250 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: easy voting and to just you know, uh fuck a 251 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: refree voting. That is truly the kind of ship. When 252 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: you keep people from voting, it allows for more racist 253 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: goon ay to occur that will just actively erase everyone's 254 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: fucking priorities, because it's not just gonna be people of color. 255 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: It's going to eventually be I mean, it's already people 256 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: of color. It's already queer people, it's already the entire 257 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: LGBTQ community, it's already indigenous people, it's already Muslims, it's 258 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: already Asian people, it's already Hispanic people, it's already immigrants. 259 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: So everybody, if you're if you're if you're fortunate enough 260 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: to not be in that category in this country. It 261 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: will eventually it's gonna be at your door too, in 262 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: some way or another, because the on the right they're 263 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: not having ship except for runaway greed and power that 264 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: is defined by their toxic Christian masculinity or whatever it is. 265 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: They do not care about your cold plants, do not 266 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: care even about your white neighborhoods. If they can make 267 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: some money off and turn that thing into a highway, 268 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: they'll do it tomorrow. Like that. You're not safe. You're 269 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: just most likely to vote for them right now. And 270 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: that's how they need to say in power. That's so 271 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: I use it. You know, America's a rotting you know, 272 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: a loaf of bread. Some people, unfortunately are surrounded by 273 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: the green mold, and other people think that just because 274 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: they're part of the loaf doesn't have the mold on 275 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: it yet, that they're all good. It's like, no, mother, 276 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: are you in the same thing. It just hasn't got 277 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: to you yet. They designed the build is that you 278 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: can't give water to people where they're lying, typically ten 279 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: hours long, get a drink, You cannot step out of line. 280 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: You and they signed it under a painting of plantation. 281 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: I with all white men in the room. It was 282 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: the most of like just brutal, blatant display of like 283 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: political racism and for people to not be outraged, and 284 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: the fact that what we're mostly seeing is black women 285 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: be outraged and then of course prosecuted or actually they 286 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: prosecuted but jailed and arrested and harmed over it. It's 287 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: just like here we go again. I really, I don't know, 288 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: it's very exhausting to be a black person post Obama, 289 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: post you know, Rainbow Coalition, post Civil rights suffrage, where 290 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: you just think like, oh, all these movements are helping. 291 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: They're just they were smoked. They were smoke bombs to 292 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: to keep the glacial pace the same, you know, because 293 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: if the if the temple got too quick, that unfortunately 294 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: the country just not with that. And that's what we 295 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: are have forced to face every day. Um, let's talk 296 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,479 Speaker 1: just another thing. Today is the anniversary to your anniversary 297 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: of Nipsey Hustles passing when he was murdered. Yeah, and 298 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: it's just like it's a wild to think that that 299 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: was two years ago. Um, but also like it's just 300 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: the people still I'm it's wild to see how much 301 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: more popular he's been getting posthumously. Um, like I was 302 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: listening to last year, I was watching the latest season 303 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: The Last Chance You, and like they had his track 304 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: on there and I was like, oh my god, and 305 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: I but I it it. It was taking place in 306 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: l A. And you know, he's the l A guy. 307 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: So on top of that, just the I also just 308 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: see how many people have you know, for good or bad. 309 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: Obviously he's he was a you know, staunch capitalist. We 310 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: saw him do the you know, are proud to pay 311 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: thing when he sold a thousand mixed tapes for a 312 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: hundred dollars a piece out of his trunk and sold out. Um, 313 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: he knows what it is. But he also poured that 314 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: back into the community and was actively trying to improve 315 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: the areas he was from. It should yeah, it's it's 316 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: it's interesting to see how people are like sort of 317 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: modeling after that in other cities, to where people are 318 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: starting to feel some duty uh to their their home, 319 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: their hometown, their neighborhood, and if they can see that 320 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: there's something that they can contribute positively to that that 321 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: they are If it doesn't always have to be money. 322 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: It may just be like I have a skill or 323 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: some knowledge I want to impart on everyone and they 324 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: do so yeah, just restu. Yeah. Yeah, I think there's 325 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: a lot of that going around, particularly with social media 326 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: sort of allowing the local celebrity hero to reach a 327 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: global local status, which is that like, oh, you know, 328 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: this person reps of that neighborhood and a lot of 329 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 1: us enjoys that person. Um, And therefore movie we can 330 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: help their hood. And I think that's really beautiful. I 331 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: think we'll probably start seeing that Pop Smoke coming up 332 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: soon his uh first and last movie, it's about to drop. Um. 333 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: Apparently he was just stunning in it. Um. It's a 334 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: twenty one year old kid with so much promise, not 335 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: just a great rapper, not just a great actor, but 336 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: by all accounts that i've heard, like a good person. Um. 337 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: And so you know, it sucks that we're still plagued 338 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: by these sort of senseless violent tragedies. Um, but it's 339 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: also incredible to see with limited time how much good 340 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: can be done and how much awareness can be brought 341 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: to a community and needs. So yeah, person in peace. Yeah, 342 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: Pop Smoke, I mean that bringing that, you know, doing 343 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: that Brooklyn drills sound okay? Uh. And finally on Twitter, 344 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: hashtag Trump social platform rules is trending because you know 345 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 1: how this ship starts. You'll never find the thing where 346 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: it's like you're seeing all the positive ship on it. 347 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: It's just a bunch of people dunking on it with 348 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: all kinds of just dumb memes about what you know, 349 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: how Trump's social platforms is probably a hot hot clan 350 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: orgy over chat if you look at look at the 351 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: hashtag is just a barrage of horrible memes, like really terrible, 352 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: quickly put together, not very poignant memes. What a mess. Yeah, 353 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: it's the one thing you do see here. Like people 354 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: who are like, no, look um, I'm all this like 355 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: liberty something. They're like, well, there's no child pornography, no 356 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: censorship of peaceful, law abiding viewpoints challenging the mainstream, no race, 357 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: no New World Order sycophants eating And he's like, you 358 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: know the words not like Twitter, it's great. I mean, 359 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: it's all who knows what the hell is going on 360 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: over there? Trying remember anything of value and uh, there's 361 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: nothing real one. I don't, I can't. Everything seems kind 362 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: of off. Um, let's see. Nope, I do like this 363 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: like meme of where it's like it's just Trump gesticulating 364 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: wildly with his hands, and it's I love the poorly educated. 365 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: I don't know why that makes me love him, absolutely fantastic. 366 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, good luck on that other whatever watering hole 367 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: for people who actually don't have any idea what how 368 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: good this country could be. All right, um, well, Joel, 369 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: thanks for stopping by. I'll see you tomorrow. Tomorrow's episode. 370 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: We gotta got a banger for you and might continue 371 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: the streak a few more days. We will until then, y'all, 372 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: please wear a mask, wash your hands, Please try and 373 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: be safe if you have access to a vaccination, you know, 374 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: let's do it. Look at that ship. Done, baby, it's amazing. 375 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: Go get it. I did it. It was totally worth 376 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: it already, let me get up. Let me let me 377 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: hold have a vaccine quick. Um. Also, yes, guys, and 378 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: do all that stuff. Be safe and more importantly, be 379 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: a good at life. Someone is on some fuck ship 380 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: discriminatory nonsense. Don't be somebody who doesn't say anything. You know, 381 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: you don't have to fund somebody up, but at least 382 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: speak the funk up because most people, just like we 383 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: saw where that Unfortunately, that Asian woman was stomped out 384 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: by some random attacker in New York. People stood idly 385 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: by and watched it happen, and that ship is so disgusting. 386 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: Security guard like, yeah, please do not stand idly by. 387 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: Uh and you know, consider your own safety, but please, 388 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: please please. That's how we're gonna fucking show people that 389 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: people of good conscious outnumber the fucking evil doopers. So 390 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 1: until then, peace and blessings. We love you all, Take 391 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: care of by it E.